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Welcome to level seven,

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the Thunderbolts

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Asterix movie

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review. Welcome to level seven,

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a podcast about Marvel's agents of shield and

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the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

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It's a magical place.

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Hello, everyone. I'm Ben. Ben, Avery. Over here

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on my left is Samantha. How are you

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doing, Samantha? I am well. How are you?

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I'm doing good. And together, we are welcome

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to level seven, and we are ready to

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talk about

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thunderbolts asterisk

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because it's part of the title. And and

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now we know what it stands for.

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And I have thoughts about that. I don't

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wanna spoil it. I I wanna talk about

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it in the spoilers because it is a

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spoiler. Of course, it's been all over the

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news. Well, I mean, the day after the

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movie came out,

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and it wasn't just in the news. The

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day after the movie came out, Marvel itself

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spoiled it.

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Like,

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what

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are you thinking?

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You're, like, trying to build up this whole,

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like,

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mystique

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about the the asterisk. What is it gonna

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mean? And

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and then,

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hey, we're just gonna say it outright for

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people who haven't made it to the theater

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yet. That's

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it's dirty pool, man.

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Not cool. So anyway, yeah. So we're gonna

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do our definite The beginning of this podcast

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is gonna be definitely spoiler free. We'll play

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the spoiler Oregon, and we'll get into in-depth

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discussion about the movie and its themes and

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some of the things with the characters and

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their character arcs and stuff.

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I just wanna start off

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our spoiler filled conversation or spoiler free conversation

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by saying

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really enjoyed myself in this movie. I

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truly had an enjoyable time at the

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theater watching this movie,

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and

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it's one of the best Marvel things of

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the year. Yes. I it feels like it's

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a return to form. I have to say

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one of the best because Daredevil Born Again

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has been fantastic.

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That that was great.

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It was good, good stuff.

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Recently, I was on YouTube and I came

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across this one video,

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and there was this guy, he was saying,

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oh, the MCU is terrible. They're they're they're

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producing nothing but crap now, blah blah blah

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blah blah blah. And and the comments, people

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were talking about how terrible it was, and

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and then they brought up Daredevil.

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Oh, Daredevil, it's it's it's not the same

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anymore. Blah blah blah. And I'm like,

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yeah. It's ten years down the road, but

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it's still

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really good quality. Yeah. It's I I think

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people just complain sometimes these days just to

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get attention.

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and maybe it is that whole what do

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they call it? Superhero fatigue or whatever,

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where the people who used to enjoy that

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just aren't. And it's just not giving the

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them what it used to give them. I

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get it. That's fine. But I will say

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that between Dare Devil Worn Again and Thunderbolts,

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it's good stuff.

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I don't know if I'll see a return

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to form because there was,

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first of all, there was some rather bland

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and not super exciting Marvel stuff happening,

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the demarcation point. You have everything from before

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and everything after endgame. Yeah. And.

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like it didn't have purpose

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to it, and it still somewhat feels that

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before endgame, there was always this kind of

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push toward we're going toward Thanos, going toward

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Thanos, going toward Thanos. There's the there's this

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the gems. We're going towards this. We have

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this insight.

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and getting there, there was some fantastic movies

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there wasn't many fantastic

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There just weren't. Yeah. But

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there still was some fun stuff and I

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enjoyed the movies that have come but this

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ways. It did feel like a return. So

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oh, it's it's still one of the best

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movies in the MCU, and that was the

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first film after Endgame. And then,

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not long after that,

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things went downhill very quickly.

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you have Black Widow.

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Black Widow. You had,

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you know, Amanda and the Wasp stuff, and

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Sony verse stuff going on. Yeah. And the

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change of the guard at Disney

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the. King dynasty that was hanging everything

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and on Jonathan Majors and that switched up

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and. Yeah. There's there's a lot going against

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the writers strike. There's a lot going against

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the MCU.

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really was for me just, okay, they're making

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okay movies now.

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They're making some okay movies. Oh,

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Black Panther, Wakanda, Forever. That was pretty good.

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like, oh my gosh.

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this. You know, that kind of thing.

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Shang Chi still stands out in my head.

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highlight of not just

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post Endgame, but that's a highlight of

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the MCU in general

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for for sure. For sure.

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done much with that franchise since because that

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was a huge hit.

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the way they've built out the MCU, though,

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I can't do the Avengers every year. Yeah.

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the Avengers was they would do like, okay,

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movie, here's your iron man movie here's one

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a avengers movie and now here's here's this

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this this this avengers here's this this this

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avengers and

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and they didn't have any anchor points in

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the midst of all this.

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way home. Spiderman no way home. Yeah. Oh

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yeah. No Way Home. Oh yeah.

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a cast that that was an ensemble cast

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with Thunderbolts. I think that's the biggest thing

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is it's an ensemble cast. It's definitely not

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your heavy hitters as far as

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the popular characters.

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it's an ensemble

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piece. There's a

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characters. The the one problem is because they're

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minor characters,

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you may not have seen what they were

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in if you're not a die hard.

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is this guy look why does this guy

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look like Captain America? Wait

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wait a minute. I thought

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I thought the Falcon was fact Captain America

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now. And and you have this guy? Like,

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what's going on? Like, if you're not a

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diehard fan who's really into all of it

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and watching the TV or the Disney plus

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and the Wasp was so long ago.

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from from Black Widow, and you again, if

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you didn't see Black Widow,

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you don't know why that character has any

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importance at all.

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wouldn't you may not understand

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Elena or Alexi

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Val showed up in several different places. She's

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been in a couple. Yeah. Yeah. But,

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there's a lot actually a lot of tie

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to Black Widow more than any any other

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Red Guardian, because of Yeah. But this is

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a team up movie and this is what

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team up movies do well. You bring these

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characters, you throw them in the mix, you

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let them play off each other.

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the way that that worked out. But the

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biggest thing I enjoyed about this movie was

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there's actually heart

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between Yes. Between Thunderbolts and Suicide Squad.

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all, PG 13.

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but I really felt like there was heart.

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Like, genuine genuine heart.

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specifically villains. I felt they were more like

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anti heroes.

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they weren't villains.

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just anti heroes they're you know

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black widow is an assassin

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and all of them come together

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because they're all connected

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because they're all doing things that aren't the

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most heroic whether it's because they're doing things

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like Elena

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on the assassin front

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or

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they're

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a limo driver. You know? It's like there

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there's all these different aspects of what's going

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on in their lives

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that make this, you know,

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they're unlikely heroes.

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Yeah. Unlikely heroes. And

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and so I liked it. I I liked

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that a lot. And and the new character,

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I I really liked him.

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That's, Bill Pullman's son.

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Yeah. Louis Pullman. I was I was like,

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why why does he look at first, I

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thought maybe I was like, why is Spider

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Man in this movie? And then I realized,

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no. This is a different actor

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because he looks a lot like like oh

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my gosh. I could see that. I could

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see that Tom Holland is Yeah. He looks

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a lot like Tom Holland.

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They could play brothers.

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They look so much alike.

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And then I was like then I found

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out he was Lewis Pullman, Bill Pullman's son.

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So he's, you know, the president's son from

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from, Independence

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Day.

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Yeah. Bill Pullman played the president in that

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movie.

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Yeah.

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But even

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he's he's had a career. So that's the

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that's the one thing I was like, okay.

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So how did he get this? You know?

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And and, yeah, there's that whole Nepo baby

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thing going on for sure. But he has

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had a career and he he's made a

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a name for himself. And and this movie,

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I feel like,

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it he did a great job.

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And and his character again, I'm not gonna

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say too much about his character, but there

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was heart there. Yeah. Yeah.

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And then you get Lewis Pullman next to

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Wyatt Russell,

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who's also a Nippo baby. Yeah. I didn't

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even thought about that. Yeah. And I was

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like, man, this is, like, really Hollywood the

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next generation, it feels like.

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But, I mean, I don't wanna call them

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I hate calling them Nepo babies because that

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feels like such a,

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like, kind of a dis, but The whole

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Nepo baby thing is very interesting to me

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because

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I, you know, look at my family.

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I am doing a lot of the same

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things with my life

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that my dad did with his

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and my kids are doing a lot of

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the same things as they're you know going

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through college and getting ready for their life.

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They're doing a lot of the same things

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that I did going to the same school

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that I went to for college.

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Getting ready you know it just it's interesting

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and it also makes sense you know and

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so your your nepo baby or whatever

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yeah

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sure the idea behind it

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exists the name itself is it diminishes a

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little bit. The the person that you're talking

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about for sure.

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But at the same time it totally makes

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sense. You grow up in that world. You

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see your parents doing this thing

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and they're passionate about this thing and if

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they love this thing they're passing that love

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on to the child or passing on a

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passion that maybe doesn't isn't love or maybe

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passing on a duty. You know it's not

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just

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it's not just a passion or a love

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but it can be something that that kids

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will do because they feel like they have

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to because that's what my dad did and

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so that's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna

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I'm gonna work in the coal mine you

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know or I'm gonna

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I don't want to be a poet like

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you dad I wanna I wanna be I

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wanna be a miner.

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Which is one of my favorite Monty Python

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sketches where you have the the son who

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doesn't want to be a poet he wants

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to work in the mines.

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But

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yeah. So it it makes sense. But, yeah,

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I had thought about the the Kurt Russell

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and, Wyatt Russell connection as well with

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the famous dads. Yeah. Okay. So that's kind

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of my initial thoughts. I'm assuming

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based on things that I've read

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from you,

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you also enjoyed this movie.

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I really enjoyed this movie. Like I said,

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it felt like a return to form. I

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mean, it's not as great as Endgame and

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and Infinity Wars, but

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it feels more on par with,

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a lot of the movies we saw before

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Endgame. So it it feels like Feige is

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back in in in control and,

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and, the whole of phase five

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pre or or the mass majority of phase

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five preceding felt like it like Feige had

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somehow lost power. Because I know Feige is

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a huge fan,

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which I think it what helps make this

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whole thing work just because he loves

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movie making. He loves the MCU.

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He just wanna makes everything,

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he wants to make sure everything flows together

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really well.

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Oh, speaking of of which of phase five,

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this is, it was announced. This is the

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last movie for phase five.

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It didn't even feel like a phase. That's

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the that's the big thing for me is

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just this.

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Again, I use the word, directionless, I think,

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meandering.

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I just feel like this hasn't been bringing

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us anywhere.

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But here's the best part about this movie

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is while yes, it does build on stuff

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from the past.

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I feel like the movie itself

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actually works as a movie.

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Like, there's a beginning, a middle, and an

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end. And

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while yes it might be confusing to have

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another guy in a Captain America suit carrying

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a shield and people are making fun of

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him that he's like I was Captain America

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officially you know but

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I feel like it was his own thing.

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Now it was definitely, especially you get to

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post credits,

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teasing what's coming.

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But the movie itself felt like it could

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stand by itself and just be what it

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is by itself. And that's

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that's that was also a little bit refreshing.

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Yes. Yes.

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Okay. So

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out of

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I mean, I I'm guessing that most people

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who are listening to us right now have

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probably

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seen the movie so I think we can

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get into spoilers pretty soon here but I

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would ask you out of how many fake

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shields

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out of five

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would you give this movie?

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Four and a quarter.

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Wow. And we've and

448
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it's been so long since I've seen the

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movie. I have actually given deep thought into

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what my rating is, so I'm gonna go

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with four and a quarter.

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I'm going with four. Okay. I'm going with

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four. It's

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and if you're if you're putting them on,

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you know,

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up or down,

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you know, like, top half, lower half, this

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is a top half movie Yes. In the

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MCU.

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Obviously I give it a thumb up if

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if you're doing a binary thumbs up thumbs

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down but

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yeah I really enjoyed it. Yeah I had

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a lot of fun.

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So

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we're gonna play the spoiler organ we're gonna

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talk a little bit about specifics in this

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movie and if you've not seen the movie

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then please

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listen at your own risk and here comes

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the spoiler organ. All right I thought maybe

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Samantha one of the best ways we could

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go through kind of the movie is kind

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of talk about the different

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characters. With or we could go through the

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quadrant. The quadrant

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that I use when I'm, like, coming up

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with

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formatting a review

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to write it out was,

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to talk about characters, plot,

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themes, and style.

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And then I added a fifth, which makes

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it not a quadrant anymore, but,

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which is enjoyment.

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And so,

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we're we're we could go either way, Samantha.

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Do you have a preference? I think we'd

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we'd be more thorough with character, but it's

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gonna take longer.

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Well, let's let's let's go through the characters

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then and and kinda talk about their arcs

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as well as we do so. So the

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main character of this movie, I would argue,

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the main character is Yelena.

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Would you agree? I agree. Okay. I think

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Not just her main character. She's now, like,

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the team leader. She's captain America. She's

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And

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And but this is this is her movie

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in a lot of ways. This movie starts

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with her. It kinda ends with her.

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And a lot of the movie hinges on

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her character development and her arc.

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And at the very least red guardian's

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character arc is really to support hers

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and you know because he is you know

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part of her adoptive family in a way

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from when they were spies in The United

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States while she was a child.

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But but this is her movie and this

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is her kind of figuring out who is

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she

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who who am I in in in this

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new world

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and you know we've seen her now in

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Black widow.

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We've seen her in Hawkeye

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where she played a a pretty big part

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there.

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We've seen how things went for her with

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the blip

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When she was dusted

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and came back five years later and when

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she came back five years later,

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her her her sister was gone because

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Natasha

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sacrificed herself to stop Thanos.

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And and she's just trying to figure out

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who she is, and she's working

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for Valentina.

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She's she's working for Elaine Benes,

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and

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and

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the whole team basically comes together because they're

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working for Elaine.

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But,

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yeah. What do you think about her character

539
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arc here then? Like, the things they do

540
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with her character arc where she's

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she's trying to

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get past her mistakes, get past her past,

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and

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figure out who she's supposed to be. What

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is she supposed to do?

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And Red Guardian wants to encourage her to

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be a hero. Do more hero stuff.

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And

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but in but what she's doing is in

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the shadows and she's killing lots of people.

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And it's making her depressed. Yeah. Because she

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has downtime between assignments, and she's

553
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she's sitting in her home

554
00:20:10,404 --> 00:20:13,304
or where wherever she is, and she's

555
00:20:13,644 --> 00:20:15,444
I think malaise is a good word for

556
00:20:15,444 --> 00:20:18,099
it. She's she says, I I'm scrolling on

557
00:20:18,099 --> 00:20:20,440
my phone thinking about my mistakes, basically.

558
00:20:20,900 --> 00:20:21,400
Yeah.

559
00:20:22,420 --> 00:20:24,519
And that's the other nice thing is

560
00:20:24,820 --> 00:20:26,740
a lot of the character arcs are kind

561
00:20:26,740 --> 00:20:30,099
of wrapped up in this idea of kind

562
00:20:30,099 --> 00:20:31,640
of overcoming the past

563
00:20:32,495 --> 00:20:34,275
and not letting the past define

564
00:20:34,975 --> 00:20:35,795
your future.

565
00:20:36,095 --> 00:20:37,775
You know, you can't do anything about it.

566
00:20:37,775 --> 00:20:38,515
It's there.

567
00:20:39,375 --> 00:20:39,875
But

568
00:20:40,174 --> 00:20:41,455
what are you gonna do with it and

569
00:20:41,455 --> 00:20:42,755
how are you gonna move forward?

570
00:20:43,295 --> 00:20:45,134
And a lot of the people in this

571
00:20:45,134 --> 00:20:46,755
movie, that is what they are

572
00:20:47,230 --> 00:20:50,029
dealing with. Actually, probably all of them. I

573
00:20:50,029 --> 00:20:51,549
mean, I I feel like they really did

574
00:20:51,549 --> 00:20:54,130
a good job of tying that theme into

575
00:20:54,990 --> 00:20:56,929
John Walker, Captain America's

576
00:20:57,470 --> 00:20:59,409
thing. Bob Sentry's

577
00:21:03,394 --> 00:21:03,894
character.

578
00:21:04,994 --> 00:21:06,755
Ghost kind of, I guess, but not maybe

579
00:21:06,755 --> 00:21:07,575
not as much.

580
00:21:07,875 --> 00:21:09,095
And and Red Guardian,

581
00:21:09,634 --> 00:21:12,194
he's there as comic relief, but he's also

582
00:21:12,194 --> 00:21:15,414
there to bring he's the wise comic relief

583
00:21:15,769 --> 00:21:17,549
who kind of bumbles into wisdom

584
00:21:18,089 --> 00:21:19,389
as he's talking to,

585
00:21:20,169 --> 00:21:20,669
Yelena.

586
00:21:21,289 --> 00:21:21,789
So

587
00:21:22,649 --> 00:21:24,169
and and I appreciate what they did with

588
00:21:24,169 --> 00:21:25,769
that theme. I appreciate what they're, you know,

589
00:21:25,769 --> 00:21:27,389
talking about mental health, basically.

590
00:21:27,690 --> 00:21:29,149
Yeah. And and addiction.

591
00:21:29,609 --> 00:21:29,849
And,

592
00:21:31,904 --> 00:21:33,984
it's it was it was good. It was

593
00:21:33,984 --> 00:21:34,805
good. And

594
00:21:35,664 --> 00:21:36,484
so Yelena,

595
00:21:37,184 --> 00:21:39,605
I mean, she's on a journey here.

596
00:21:40,065 --> 00:21:42,945
And, yeah, she's moving from loner, depressed loner

597
00:21:42,945 --> 00:21:43,445
to,

598
00:21:45,025 --> 00:21:45,924
purpose filled

599
00:21:46,225 --> 00:21:46,725
leader.

600
00:21:47,390 --> 00:21:49,730
Yeah. And oh my gosh. It's

601
00:21:50,829 --> 00:21:53,069
Florence Pugh is just I mean, every time

602
00:21:53,069 --> 00:21:54,349
I see her in this role, she just

603
00:21:54,429 --> 00:21:56,750
well, any role just about I mean, she

604
00:21:56,750 --> 00:21:58,589
just knocks it out of the park. I've

605
00:21:58,589 --> 00:22:00,509
yet to see a bad performance from her

606
00:22:00,509 --> 00:22:02,174
in anything I've seen her in.

607
00:22:03,055 --> 00:22:04,575
I'm sure there's something out there where it's

608
00:22:04,575 --> 00:22:05,075
like,

609
00:22:06,095 --> 00:22:08,275
but I haven't seen it yet. I mean,

610
00:22:09,055 --> 00:22:12,515
whether it's playing Amy in Little Women or

611
00:22:13,695 --> 00:22:16,115
her role in Dune two, I mean

612
00:22:17,295 --> 00:22:19,609
I mean, or here in the MCU? I

613
00:22:19,609 --> 00:22:20,589
mean, it's just

614
00:22:21,690 --> 00:22:24,329
she does such a great job. And Elena

615
00:22:24,329 --> 00:22:25,049
is she's

616
00:22:26,169 --> 00:22:28,329
she would has been given a lot of

617
00:22:28,329 --> 00:22:30,970
freedom to improvise with this character too, and

618
00:22:30,970 --> 00:22:32,829
she has made Elena to be

619
00:22:34,265 --> 00:22:37,384
very funny and very sentimental. Yeah. I I'm

620
00:22:37,384 --> 00:22:39,704
gonna use this word again probably or this

621
00:22:39,704 --> 00:22:41,384
compound word anyway. But,

622
00:22:41,944 --> 00:22:42,444
heartfelt.

623
00:22:42,744 --> 00:22:45,224
Her performance was heartfelt. Yes. And I I

624
00:22:45,224 --> 00:22:45,964
really did

625
00:22:46,670 --> 00:22:47,170
feel

626
00:22:48,109 --> 00:22:50,289
like I was watching an actor

627
00:22:50,990 --> 00:22:52,609
do the acting thing, but

628
00:22:52,990 --> 00:22:54,049
bringing to life,

629
00:22:54,910 --> 00:22:55,410
emotions

630
00:22:56,109 --> 00:22:57,650
and and change.

631
00:22:58,924 --> 00:22:59,424
Yeah.

632
00:23:00,045 --> 00:23:02,365
And we also get to visit her past

633
00:23:02,365 --> 00:23:05,244
where she does her first red room murder.

634
00:23:07,565 --> 00:23:10,444
She didn't do the actual killing, but she

635
00:23:10,444 --> 00:23:12,980
led a friend to to be killed.

636
00:23:13,839 --> 00:23:15,839
And and she goes back to that over

637
00:23:15,839 --> 00:23:18,319
and over again. And it's again, kinda dealing

638
00:23:18,319 --> 00:23:19,619
with your past and

639
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,880
and you revisit those moments over and over

640
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:23,380
again.

641
00:23:25,724 --> 00:23:27,484
And it's good to learn from those kind

642
00:23:27,484 --> 00:23:29,244
of things, but it's not good to live

643
00:23:29,244 --> 00:23:29,744
there.

644
00:23:30,204 --> 00:23:31,644
And it seems like that's kind of what

645
00:23:31,644 --> 00:23:34,684
she's doing. Like you said, when she's she's

646
00:23:34,684 --> 00:23:37,644
got that malaise when she's between missions. Well,

647
00:23:37,644 --> 00:23:39,325
she's thinking about the mistakes that she made

648
00:23:39,325 --> 00:23:40,980
and the horrible things that she did.

649
00:23:41,460 --> 00:23:43,059
And then you have Red Guardian help her

650
00:23:43,059 --> 00:23:44,919
deal with that. Like, You were a child.

651
00:23:45,460 --> 00:23:47,319
You were a child. And that's

652
00:23:48,179 --> 00:23:49,859
They should have never done that, but they

653
00:23:49,859 --> 00:23:51,619
did. And I like what they did with

654
00:23:51,619 --> 00:23:53,059
her. And she's not a character I really

655
00:23:53,059 --> 00:23:55,904
liked that much before. This is probably the

656
00:23:55,904 --> 00:23:57,505
turning point for me with her character that

657
00:23:57,505 --> 00:23:58,005
actually

658
00:23:58,625 --> 00:23:59,125
liked

659
00:23:59,505 --> 00:24:01,765
who she was and what she was doing.

660
00:24:02,545 --> 00:24:04,384
I liked her back in Hawkeye because there

661
00:24:04,384 --> 00:24:06,144
was that whole thing about I'm trying to

662
00:24:06,144 --> 00:24:06,884
find Hawkeye.

663
00:24:07,859 --> 00:24:10,019
I'm in Lady Hawke's apartment, and, oh, by

664
00:24:10,019 --> 00:24:11,779
the way, I made macaroni and cheese. You're

665
00:24:11,779 --> 00:24:13,460
sad because you only have one bowl and

666
00:24:13,460 --> 00:24:14,119
one spoon.

667
00:24:15,140 --> 00:24:17,000
That whole thing. She was

668
00:24:17,539 --> 00:24:18,039
funny.

669
00:24:18,819 --> 00:24:20,819
She was funny, but I haven't I didn't

670
00:24:20,819 --> 00:24:21,944
exactly enjoy the character,

671
00:24:23,625 --> 00:24:24,664
And and this this time I did. So

672
00:24:25,304 --> 00:24:27,224
Well, she also had a huge arc in

673
00:24:27,224 --> 00:24:30,424
that too, because she she she I don't

674
00:24:30,424 --> 00:24:31,244
think she realized

675
00:24:31,625 --> 00:24:34,950
that the person that she was sent to

676
00:24:35,190 --> 00:24:37,609
kill was her sister's best friend.

677
00:24:38,230 --> 00:24:39,609
No. No. Yeah. She

678
00:24:40,069 --> 00:24:41,829
the person she was sent to kill was

679
00:24:41,829 --> 00:24:43,849
involved in her her sister's death,

680
00:24:44,549 --> 00:24:45,049
and,

681
00:24:46,789 --> 00:24:48,569
yeah, she did not know.

682
00:24:49,494 --> 00:24:50,154
Yeah. But

683
00:24:50,615 --> 00:24:51,994
she also didn't know that

684
00:24:52,694 --> 00:24:54,775
the person that she blamed in her sister's

685
00:24:54,775 --> 00:24:55,275
death

686
00:24:56,054 --> 00:24:57,914
didn't want her sister to die either.

687
00:24:58,615 --> 00:24:59,115
Right.

688
00:25:00,694 --> 00:25:01,194
Yeah.

689
00:25:02,309 --> 00:25:05,049
Again, another situation where a ten minute conversation

690
00:25:05,109 --> 00:25:06,169
could solve everything.

691
00:25:08,950 --> 00:25:11,029
So we're following her through this movie then.

692
00:25:11,029 --> 00:25:12,390
We see her and she goes to a

693
00:25:12,390 --> 00:25:15,190
lab and there's all these, like, weird shadow

694
00:25:15,190 --> 00:25:16,250
things on the wall,

695
00:25:16,595 --> 00:25:18,835
like dust shadows, or it's like, Oh, that's

696
00:25:18,835 --> 00:25:20,855
weird. What is that? And.

697
00:25:22,275 --> 00:25:25,654
She is getting information. She's blowing things up.

698
00:25:25,875 --> 00:25:27,634
And then she goes on her she goes

699
00:25:27,634 --> 00:25:29,474
to talk to Red Guardian and then she

700
00:25:29,474 --> 00:25:30,855
goes on her next mission,

701
00:25:31,339 --> 00:25:32,779
which takes her to a place where she

702
00:25:32,779 --> 00:25:34,000
meets our other characters.

703
00:25:34,380 --> 00:25:36,220
So let's talk about Red Guardian, I guess,

704
00:25:36,220 --> 00:25:37,980
first and and kinda get him out of

705
00:25:37,980 --> 00:25:39,820
the way. I've kinda given you my feelings

706
00:25:39,820 --> 00:25:40,880
about he's hilarious.

707
00:25:41,500 --> 00:25:43,039
He is so funny,

708
00:25:44,869 --> 00:25:45,345
which

709
00:25:46,065 --> 00:25:46,784
no surprise there.

710
00:25:48,865 --> 00:25:50,865
He's also kind of the heart of the

711
00:25:50,865 --> 00:25:53,265
team. He's the one who's like encouraging everyone

712
00:25:53,265 --> 00:25:54,164
to be heroic.

713
00:25:54,464 --> 00:25:56,085
You know, we could be heroes

714
00:25:56,704 --> 00:25:58,079
and and that kind of thing.

715
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:00,640
Not a lot more not much more than

716
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,579
that to him, though.

717
00:26:04,159 --> 00:26:06,179
So enjoyable. He brings a lot of levity

718
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:07,539
to the proceedings

719
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,579
that wouldn't necessarily be there.

720
00:26:11,654 --> 00:26:14,075
And the other characters reactions to him

721
00:26:15,015 --> 00:26:15,994
also bring levity

722
00:26:16,295 --> 00:26:18,475
to this situation. But he also brings, again,

723
00:26:18,615 --> 00:26:19,115
heart

724
00:26:19,575 --> 00:26:22,375
to this, especially when he's working and and

725
00:26:22,375 --> 00:26:23,755
dealing with with Yelena.

726
00:26:25,519 --> 00:26:27,619
I will say that there are some stupid

727
00:26:27,759 --> 00:26:29,139
plot points in this movie,

728
00:26:30,079 --> 00:26:32,000
and one of them is him as the

729
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,220
limo driver. He just happens to be driving.

730
00:26:35,519 --> 00:26:37,519
I shouldn't say just happens to be, but

731
00:26:37,519 --> 00:26:39,759
he pushes himself to be able to drive

732
00:26:39,759 --> 00:26:40,419
the limo

733
00:26:40,815 --> 00:26:43,075
that Valentina and Mel are in

734
00:26:43,615 --> 00:26:45,234
as they are talking about

735
00:26:45,855 --> 00:26:47,154
nefarious things

736
00:26:47,534 --> 00:26:48,595
that they are doing

737
00:26:49,454 --> 00:26:49,954
that

738
00:26:50,894 --> 00:26:53,315
since he overhears that he tries to call

739
00:26:53,774 --> 00:26:55,474
Yelena to say don't go

740
00:26:56,390 --> 00:26:58,409
It's too late. So he takes his limo

741
00:26:58,470 --> 00:26:59,769
and drives there

742
00:27:01,109 --> 00:27:03,269
and and comes after the big battle scene.

743
00:27:03,269 --> 00:27:05,029
But Well, I was gonna say there is

744
00:27:05,029 --> 00:27:07,349
that that whole coincidence of him being the

745
00:27:07,349 --> 00:27:08,890
limo driver for Valentina

746
00:27:09,269 --> 00:27:09,704
and,

747
00:27:10,105 --> 00:27:13,164
Mel. Yeah. It I mean, he didn't intentionally

748
00:27:14,345 --> 00:27:16,585
become their limo driver to find out this

749
00:27:16,585 --> 00:27:17,085
information.

750
00:27:17,625 --> 00:27:19,224
They at least gave him a character reason

751
00:27:19,224 --> 00:27:20,125
to be there.

752
00:27:20,664 --> 00:27:21,565
But the coincidence

753
00:27:22,549 --> 00:27:23,750
and and you know how I feel the

754
00:27:23,750 --> 00:27:26,230
coincidence. I'm not Only one coincidence per movie

755
00:27:26,230 --> 00:27:28,309
or You get you get one. And this

756
00:27:28,309 --> 00:27:29,829
is the one, is it not? I guess

757
00:27:29,829 --> 00:27:30,650
it's the one.

758
00:27:31,029 --> 00:27:31,529
Sure.

759
00:27:32,630 --> 00:27:34,244
But use it well.

760
00:27:34,805 --> 00:27:36,484
And I gotta be careful how much I

761
00:27:36,484 --> 00:27:37,545
harp on that because

762
00:27:37,924 --> 00:27:39,464
I've been doing some writing lately

763
00:27:39,845 --> 00:27:41,384
on some time travel things,

764
00:27:42,244 --> 00:27:42,644
and,

765
00:27:43,204 --> 00:27:44,964
it's it's a bunch of short stories all

766
00:27:44,964 --> 00:27:47,144
combined into one longer narrative.

767
00:27:48,730 --> 00:27:50,509
I use a lot more than one coincidence

768
00:27:50,569 --> 00:27:52,569
in there. So I don't always practice what

769
00:27:52,569 --> 00:27:54,890
I preach, but I preach it. But I

770
00:27:54,890 --> 00:27:58,269
agree. I mean, if you having one coincidence

771
00:27:58,490 --> 00:28:00,890
maybe, like, in the first act or towards

772
00:28:00,890 --> 00:28:02,349
the beginning of the story,

773
00:28:03,494 --> 00:28:06,215
that usually that usually that coincidence helps to

774
00:28:06,215 --> 00:28:08,315
push the whole story forward.

775
00:28:09,015 --> 00:28:10,535
It makes it happen. Yeah. It makes it

776
00:28:10,535 --> 00:28:12,775
happen. But I I agree. If you have

777
00:28:12,775 --> 00:28:14,934
more than one, then it just becomes kind

778
00:28:14,934 --> 00:28:16,715
of an eye rolling situation.

779
00:28:17,429 --> 00:28:19,349
Yeah. You can do better. You can do

780
00:28:19,349 --> 00:28:20,329
better. Mhmm.

781
00:28:21,909 --> 00:28:23,450
So anything else about Red Guardian

782
00:28:24,069 --> 00:28:25,829
before we move on to our the rest

783
00:28:25,829 --> 00:28:26,569
of our cast?

784
00:28:27,109 --> 00:28:29,429
He was really stuck about the Wheaties box

785
00:28:29,429 --> 00:28:29,924
thing.

786
00:28:31,845 --> 00:28:34,005
It's funny though because I saw a movie

787
00:28:34,005 --> 00:28:35,705
poster walking into the theater

788
00:28:36,164 --> 00:28:37,785
that was a Wheaties box,

789
00:28:38,085 --> 00:28:39,785
but instead of Wheaties, it said Thunderbolts.

790
00:28:40,485 --> 00:28:42,805
And I'm like, what is that? And then

791
00:28:42,805 --> 00:28:44,644
they then he's talking about the Wheaties box.

792
00:28:44,644 --> 00:28:45,625
I'm like, oh,

793
00:28:46,349 --> 00:28:48,670
that's what that is. Yeah. And then there

794
00:28:48,670 --> 00:28:50,369
actually is a Wheaties box.

795
00:28:50,670 --> 00:28:51,170
And

796
00:28:52,269 --> 00:28:52,769
oh,

797
00:28:53,710 --> 00:28:54,210
okay.

798
00:28:54,670 --> 00:28:56,109
That whole scene where he's trying to get

799
00:28:56,109 --> 00:28:57,410
the lady to buy the Wheaties

800
00:28:57,789 --> 00:28:59,230
and trying to get her to see him

801
00:28:59,230 --> 00:29:00,049
on the box.

802
00:29:00,855 --> 00:29:02,775
Yeah. And I was looking at that at

803
00:29:02,775 --> 00:29:04,535
that grocery store. I'm like, okay. Is this

804
00:29:04,535 --> 00:29:06,934
a Kroger? I I I know of a

805
00:29:06,934 --> 00:29:09,414
few I know of a few grocery stores

806
00:29:09,414 --> 00:29:11,174
in the Atlanta area. I'm like, that looks

807
00:29:11,174 --> 00:29:12,394
like kind of like a Kroger.

808
00:29:13,815 --> 00:29:15,355
They, that the joke

809
00:29:15,839 --> 00:29:17,220
could have fallen

810
00:29:17,759 --> 00:29:18,259
flat,

811
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,160
but it works because it's him. Yeah. And

812
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,339
it also works because it is him

813
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,259
wanting to be a part of Americana,

814
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:28,900
you know? And and you have the whole

815
00:29:29,884 --> 00:29:31,424
the whole soccer team thing

816
00:29:31,724 --> 00:29:33,825
with Yelena when she was a kid and

817
00:29:34,284 --> 00:29:35,585
so that that sports

818
00:29:35,964 --> 00:29:38,384
you know American sports kind of a thing.

819
00:29:40,365 --> 00:29:41,424
It it works

820
00:29:42,044 --> 00:29:42,544
but

821
00:29:42,845 --> 00:29:44,740
that one walked a line. I didn't feel

822
00:29:44,740 --> 00:29:45,799
like it was stupid.

823
00:29:46,740 --> 00:29:49,480
The the limo hearing the nefarious plan

824
00:29:50,019 --> 00:29:50,919
from our villains

825
00:29:51,779 --> 00:29:53,940
because he was driving their limo, that didn't

826
00:29:53,940 --> 00:29:55,220
work as well for me. I thought it

827
00:29:55,220 --> 00:29:56,759
was silly. Too silly.

828
00:29:57,700 --> 00:30:00,285
Is this our first movie where we get,

829
00:30:00,285 --> 00:30:00,785
like,

830
00:30:01,804 --> 00:30:04,304
a family connection in the Avengers

831
00:30:04,684 --> 00:30:07,424
or an Avengers like team? Think so.

832
00:30:07,964 --> 00:30:08,464
Okay.

833
00:30:09,244 --> 00:30:11,325
I mean, I know they're not genetically family,

834
00:30:11,325 --> 00:30:12,990
but they are Well,

835
00:30:14,409 --> 00:30:17,149
They're adopted family, I guess. Wanda and Quicksilver.

836
00:30:17,849 --> 00:30:20,329
Oh, that's right. Yes. Okay. They would be.

837
00:30:20,329 --> 00:30:23,069
Yes. Okay. So Okay. Yelena goes

838
00:30:23,369 --> 00:30:25,630
on this final mission for Valentino.

839
00:30:26,234 --> 00:30:26,894
For Valentino

840
00:30:28,555 --> 00:30:31,214
and this final mission is to destroy

841
00:30:31,674 --> 00:30:33,295
the this evidence stuff

842
00:30:33,914 --> 00:30:34,734
in a bunker

843
00:30:36,154 --> 00:30:36,654
underground

844
00:30:37,914 --> 00:30:39,855
and she goes and

845
00:30:40,234 --> 00:30:41,055
she is

846
00:30:41,579 --> 00:30:44,220
following Ghost. And her mission is to kill

847
00:30:44,220 --> 00:30:45,599
Ghost. And then

848
00:30:45,900 --> 00:30:48,299
John Walker comes as well, and his mission

849
00:30:48,299 --> 00:30:49,119
is to kill

850
00:30:49,500 --> 00:30:52,159
Yelena. And then Taskmaster shows up,

851
00:30:52,940 --> 00:30:55,599
and her mission is to kill John Walker.

852
00:30:56,795 --> 00:30:59,035
And Ghost is already there and her mission

853
00:30:59,035 --> 00:31:00,654
is to kill Taskmaster. It's

854
00:31:01,994 --> 00:31:03,775
silly when you say it out loud,

855
00:31:04,154 --> 00:31:07,035
but the plan that Valentina has is send

856
00:31:07,035 --> 00:31:08,555
them all down there to kill each other

857
00:31:08,555 --> 00:31:11,380
and then kill them all and destroy the

858
00:31:11,380 --> 00:31:13,460
rest of the evidence of the secret thing

859
00:31:13,460 --> 00:31:14,759
they were working on.

860
00:31:15,619 --> 00:31:17,140
And so this is where we get our

861
00:31:17,140 --> 00:31:18,599
first moments of them together.

862
00:31:18,900 --> 00:31:21,220
And, of course, it's a superhero situation. So

863
00:31:21,220 --> 00:31:22,420
what are they gonna do when they meet?

864
00:31:22,420 --> 00:31:23,319
They're gonna fight.

865
00:31:24,339 --> 00:31:24,839
And

866
00:31:26,174 --> 00:31:28,414
the most shocking thing out of this fight

867
00:31:28,414 --> 00:31:28,914
scene

868
00:31:29,454 --> 00:31:30,115
is Taskmaster.

869
00:31:31,375 --> 00:31:33,054
I mean, they're all using their powers, all

870
00:31:33,054 --> 00:31:34,914
doing things, you know, but

871
00:31:35,534 --> 00:31:36,034
Taskmaster

872
00:31:36,734 --> 00:31:38,595
can mimic anyone's moves

873
00:31:39,529 --> 00:31:42,569
and learn their their style and and use

874
00:31:42,569 --> 00:31:43,309
their weapons.

875
00:31:44,169 --> 00:31:45,710
But Ghost just appears

876
00:31:46,169 --> 00:31:48,490
using her fade in powers or,

877
00:31:49,609 --> 00:31:50,829
whatever you call that.

878
00:31:52,089 --> 00:31:53,630
Phase powers or?

879
00:31:54,565 --> 00:31:56,644
I can't remember what what they call it

880
00:31:56,644 --> 00:31:58,565
when they they talk about, like, Shadowcat or

881
00:31:58,565 --> 00:31:59,545
Kitty Pryde. But,

882
00:32:00,644 --> 00:32:03,305
yeah. She just fades in front of Taskmaster

883
00:32:03,365 --> 00:32:04,664
and shoots her in the head.

884
00:32:05,045 --> 00:32:09,079
She's done. Yeah. Well, she can't, Taskmaster cannot

885
00:32:09,079 --> 00:32:10,779
replicate that kind of

886
00:32:11,799 --> 00:32:12,299
ability.

887
00:32:12,759 --> 00:32:15,480
And it happened too fast for her to

888
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:15,980
react

889
00:32:16,359 --> 00:32:18,220
to it. Yeah. Yeah. And but

890
00:32:18,815 --> 00:32:20,674
she was in other scenes

891
00:32:21,055 --> 00:32:21,875
in trailers.

892
00:32:22,894 --> 00:32:25,214
Later scenes in the movie, I don't know

893
00:32:25,214 --> 00:32:27,875
if they digitally put her into those scenes

894
00:32:28,174 --> 00:32:30,414
or digitally took her out of those scenes.

895
00:32:30,414 --> 00:32:32,015
And maybe that was part of reshoots as

896
00:32:32,015 --> 00:32:34,119
we there's too much going on. Let's get

897
00:32:34,119 --> 00:32:35,640
Taskmaster out of here. If we removed her

898
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,320
from the movie, we wouldn't even notice that

899
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,559
she was gone because I don't feel her

900
00:32:39,559 --> 00:32:41,259
missing in any of those scenes.

901
00:32:41,799 --> 00:32:44,440
But she was in those scenes in the

902
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,059
trailer, and now

903
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:47,580
she's dead.

904
00:32:47,924 --> 00:32:48,424
Well,

905
00:32:48,884 --> 00:32:50,985
this isn't the first time that we've seen

906
00:32:51,045 --> 00:32:51,945
what we thought

907
00:32:52,245 --> 00:32:54,005
one thing would be in a trailer and

908
00:32:54,005 --> 00:32:56,985
have the movie be completely different or have

909
00:32:57,525 --> 00:33:00,245
shots or scenes in a trailer that are

910
00:33:00,245 --> 00:33:02,105
missing from the movie.

911
00:33:02,419 --> 00:33:03,480
So I'm not surprised.

912
00:33:03,859 --> 00:33:05,940
That's why I'm asking, like, is this something

913
00:33:05,940 --> 00:33:06,440
where

914
00:33:07,460 --> 00:33:09,779
they filmed it this way and took her

915
00:33:09,779 --> 00:33:11,140
out after the fact, but it was too

916
00:33:11,140 --> 00:33:13,319
late because she was already in trailers? Or

917
00:33:13,619 --> 00:33:16,445
was it to trick you into thinking that

918
00:33:16,445 --> 00:33:18,125
she was in those scenes, and then when

919
00:33:18,125 --> 00:33:20,045
when she dies, it's, even more of a

920
00:33:20,045 --> 00:33:20,545
shock?

921
00:33:21,485 --> 00:33:22,845
I would have to go back and check

922
00:33:22,845 --> 00:33:25,085
it, but I'm I would not be surprised

923
00:33:25,085 --> 00:33:25,904
if she was,

924
00:33:26,285 --> 00:33:27,184
added in

925
00:33:28,285 --> 00:33:29,025
the trailer

926
00:33:30,509 --> 00:33:32,830
Because that would be these these days, that

927
00:33:32,830 --> 00:33:34,049
would be easy to do.

928
00:33:34,430 --> 00:33:36,269
Well, and removing her would also be I

929
00:33:36,269 --> 00:33:38,210
mean, not necessarily easy to do because

930
00:33:38,590 --> 00:33:40,690
it's multiple scenes or whatever. But,

931
00:33:42,595 --> 00:33:43,095
yeah.

932
00:33:44,194 --> 00:33:44,694
So

933
00:33:45,234 --> 00:33:47,414
Taskmaster her character arc is

934
00:33:48,034 --> 00:33:49,255
she shows up

935
00:33:49,714 --> 00:33:50,855
tries to kill people

936
00:33:51,315 --> 00:33:54,115
and dies. Done. Also there's a guy in

937
00:33:54,115 --> 00:33:54,569
a

938
00:33:55,210 --> 00:33:57,049
surgical gown who just shows up in the

939
00:33:57,049 --> 00:33:58,029
middle of their fight.

940
00:33:58,369 --> 00:33:58,869
Hi.

941
00:33:59,210 --> 00:34:00,029
I'm Bob.

942
00:34:00,809 --> 00:34:02,490
Yeah. So there's four of them down there.

943
00:34:02,490 --> 00:34:04,250
And then all of a sudden, they're all

944
00:34:04,250 --> 00:34:06,329
gonna die. And they know they're all gonna

945
00:34:06,329 --> 00:34:08,429
die because there's a incinerating

946
00:34:08,809 --> 00:34:09,309
bomb

947
00:34:09,844 --> 00:34:12,424
that's gonna go off and incinerate everything.

948
00:34:13,204 --> 00:34:14,264
It's getting really hot

949
00:34:14,565 --> 00:34:16,585
and there's a timer so they know

950
00:34:17,204 --> 00:34:18,105
they're gonna die

951
00:34:18,804 --> 00:34:20,404
if they can't get out of there. So

952
00:34:20,404 --> 00:34:22,005
they have to work together to get out

953
00:34:22,005 --> 00:34:24,000
of there. And that leads me to the

954
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,480
second dumb moment in this movie. I get

955
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,260
it. They created a scenario

956
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,199
where they went down and the elevator doesn't

957
00:34:31,199 --> 00:34:33,539
work anymore. But when they do their

958
00:34:34,159 --> 00:34:36,719
we're gonna push back to back and use

959
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:38,820
our the pressure of our legs

960
00:34:39,305 --> 00:34:41,224
to take all four of us up this

961
00:34:41,224 --> 00:34:41,724
gigantic

962
00:34:43,305 --> 00:34:44,925
tall elevator shaft.

963
00:34:45,625 --> 00:34:48,105
I'm watching this and just thinking okay this

964
00:34:48,105 --> 00:34:48,765
is dumb.

965
00:34:49,144 --> 00:34:49,885
This is

966
00:34:51,065 --> 00:34:52,425
I get it. They need to get out

967
00:34:52,425 --> 00:34:53,164
of some way

968
00:34:53,579 --> 00:34:55,039
But movie writers,

969
00:34:56,059 --> 00:34:57,200
change the scenario.

970
00:34:57,739 --> 00:34:59,900
Don't have an elevator shaft. I don't care

971
00:34:59,900 --> 00:35:02,719
what you do, but this is bad because

972
00:35:03,980 --> 00:35:06,320
it just these are normal people.

973
00:35:07,055 --> 00:35:08,675
They don't know that Bob has superpowers.

974
00:35:10,095 --> 00:35:12,755
Bob doesn't know know that Bob has superpowers.

975
00:35:14,414 --> 00:35:14,914
Exactly.

976
00:35:15,295 --> 00:35:18,175
And, yes, John Walker, he has super soldier

977
00:35:18,175 --> 00:35:19,615
serum. I thought they were gonna do something

978
00:35:19,615 --> 00:35:21,075
where he, like, climbs the

979
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,079
side and he kind of drags them all

980
00:35:23,079 --> 00:35:24,219
up with him or something.

981
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,880
And maybe Ghost becomes intangible so she doesn't

982
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:29,400
like have so much weight on him or

983
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,400
something like that. But no they're doing the

984
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,804
thing where they're pushing up against the you

985
00:35:33,804 --> 00:35:36,284
know, pressure pressure on their backs and pressure

986
00:35:36,284 --> 00:35:38,304
on their feet. And if one of them,

987
00:35:38,605 --> 00:35:40,065
just one of them slips,

988
00:35:40,684 --> 00:35:43,885
they're done. They're dead. Well, that that certainly

989
00:35:43,885 --> 00:35:46,019
does create the tension in the scene. It

990
00:35:46,139 --> 00:35:48,380
That I did like. Yeah. Because I and

991
00:35:48,380 --> 00:35:50,139
I was I kept thinking during the entire

992
00:35:50,139 --> 00:35:51,980
scene, what are they gonna do when they

993
00:35:51,980 --> 00:35:54,639
finally get to the the the next floor?

994
00:35:55,339 --> 00:35:56,699
Exactly. How are they gonna get out of

995
00:35:56,699 --> 00:35:58,539
that? And and then they get up to

996
00:35:58,539 --> 00:36:00,059
the next floor and they're like, oh, we

997
00:36:00,059 --> 00:36:02,304
didn't think this far. Yeah. They had only

998
00:36:02,304 --> 00:36:04,324
a lampshade on exactly what you're saying.

999
00:36:05,664 --> 00:36:08,005
And I thought that was actually pretty good.

1000
00:36:08,545 --> 00:36:10,224
Yeah. It was it was a step too

1001
00:36:10,224 --> 00:36:12,945
far in the silliness direction for me. But

1002
00:36:12,945 --> 00:36:15,300
but at the same time, I would like

1003
00:36:15,300 --> 00:36:17,619
to see I wish I missed the show

1004
00:36:17,619 --> 00:36:20,660
Mythbusters because they would cover. Is it possible

1005
00:36:20,660 --> 00:36:21,720
to get up

1006
00:36:22,660 --> 00:36:24,360
20 feet doing this?

1007
00:36:25,140 --> 00:36:27,000
So I do believe it is possible

1008
00:36:27,574 --> 00:36:29,574
because I've seen people do it, but not

1009
00:36:29,574 --> 00:36:31,494
20 feet. I wouldn't say I'd seen that,

1010
00:36:31,494 --> 00:36:31,994
but

1011
00:36:32,775 --> 00:36:35,194
I have seen people do back to back

1012
00:36:35,494 --> 00:36:36,154
two people

1013
00:36:36,775 --> 00:36:38,554
going up, like, the a hallway

1014
00:36:39,174 --> 00:36:40,315
in a dorm room.

1015
00:36:41,420 --> 00:36:43,019
Or in in a dormitory rather, not in

1016
00:36:43,019 --> 00:36:44,219
the room, but in the hallway in the

1017
00:36:44,219 --> 00:36:44,719
dormitory.

1018
00:36:45,739 --> 00:36:46,139
So I I

1019
00:36:47,339 --> 00:36:49,279
is it possible? I think so.

1020
00:36:49,739 --> 00:36:51,819
Or maybe 50 feet. Maybe it was 50

1021
00:36:51,819 --> 00:36:54,344
feet, something like that. Well, this elevator, I

1022
00:36:54,344 --> 00:36:56,505
don't know. It was it was high. It

1023
00:36:56,505 --> 00:36:58,025
was, yeah, it was really high. They were

1024
00:36:58,025 --> 00:36:59,885
gonna die if they fell. Yeah.

1025
00:37:00,905 --> 00:37:01,885
Except for Bob

1026
00:37:02,425 --> 00:37:03,724
and maybe John Walker.

1027
00:37:04,585 --> 00:37:06,765
Maybe. There were three super soldiers

1028
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:08,840
in this movie. Yeah. And two of them

1029
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:09,500
had serums.

1030
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:10,460
Yeah.

1031
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,079
That was that was kinda funny too. So

1032
00:37:13,079 --> 00:37:14,240
all of them had serum.

1033
00:37:14,660 --> 00:37:17,500
Serum. It was Hydra. Oh, Hydra. That's good.

1034
00:37:17,559 --> 00:37:19,260
Mine was communist recreation.

1035
00:37:21,125 --> 00:37:22,824
John Walker took the serum too?

1036
00:37:23,364 --> 00:37:25,364
Yeah. He did. Yeah. So there are three

1037
00:37:25,364 --> 00:37:27,545
super soldiers. Yeah. But, yeah.

1038
00:37:28,644 --> 00:37:29,784
John had the serum,

1039
00:37:30,324 --> 00:37:32,724
and winter soldier, I guess, had serum as

1040
00:37:32,724 --> 00:37:34,260
well, didn't he? Yeah.

1041
00:37:34,659 --> 00:37:35,159
Yeah.

1042
00:37:36,340 --> 00:37:37,960
But his hydra serum. Yeah.

1043
00:37:38,980 --> 00:37:40,119
So okay.

1044
00:37:40,579 --> 00:37:42,119
So let's talk about John Walker.

1045
00:37:42,820 --> 00:37:44,920
His arc in this movie is

1046
00:37:46,179 --> 00:37:47,780
I'm not gonna use the word that they

1047
00:37:47,780 --> 00:37:49,784
use to describe him, but he's a jerk.

1048
00:37:50,585 --> 00:37:51,085
And

1049
00:37:51,625 --> 00:37:53,224
at the end of the movie, he's a

1050
00:37:53,224 --> 00:37:55,144
little bit less of a jerk. And he

1051
00:37:55,144 --> 00:37:57,704
also had to reveal to everyone that he's

1052
00:37:57,704 --> 00:37:59,724
not the family man that thought he was

1053
00:38:00,105 --> 00:38:02,099
because his family left him,

1054
00:38:02,500 --> 00:38:03,559
and he's been alone.

1055
00:38:04,260 --> 00:38:04,760
And

1056
00:38:05,380 --> 00:38:07,640
I felt bad for him. Yeah.

1057
00:38:07,940 --> 00:38:09,400
And, again, heart.

1058
00:38:09,940 --> 00:38:10,920
There was a heartfelt

1059
00:38:11,780 --> 00:38:13,079
character arc here.

1060
00:38:13,860 --> 00:38:16,119
And he's not a perfect guy,

1061
00:38:16,994 --> 00:38:19,474
and he doesn't get the the resolution he

1062
00:38:19,474 --> 00:38:20,755
gets is not that all of a sudden

1063
00:38:20,755 --> 00:38:22,295
his family comes back to him,

1064
00:38:23,954 --> 00:38:26,134
but he does get an opportunity to

1065
00:38:26,514 --> 00:38:28,295
actually be a hero and do some good

1066
00:38:28,929 --> 00:38:30,710
and save people. When when

1067
00:38:31,650 --> 00:38:34,070
the big bad comes, he's saving people.

1068
00:38:34,690 --> 00:38:37,010
And he finds a new family, a found

1069
00:38:37,010 --> 00:38:40,929
family. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They hate him until

1070
00:38:40,929 --> 00:38:41,590
they don't.

1071
00:38:42,849 --> 00:38:43,989
Yeah. Yeah.

1072
00:38:44,530 --> 00:38:46,235
And he has some good moments. He has

1073
00:38:46,235 --> 00:38:47,934
some good lines. We have some good moments

1074
00:38:48,394 --> 00:38:50,555
during the final fight sequence where they're saving

1075
00:38:50,555 --> 00:38:52,715
people from all the buildings falling and stuff.

1076
00:38:52,715 --> 00:38:53,614
Like, there's some

1077
00:38:53,914 --> 00:38:56,094
some good stuff there for him. And

1078
00:38:57,210 --> 00:38:57,710
Yeah.

1079
00:38:58,409 --> 00:38:59,070
It was

1080
00:38:59,609 --> 00:39:00,109
again,

1081
00:39:00,650 --> 00:39:02,030
heartfelt. It was heartfelt.

1082
00:39:02,489 --> 00:39:03,309
Yeah. And

1083
00:39:03,690 --> 00:39:05,710
probably the the third strongest

1084
00:39:06,650 --> 00:39:08,730
character arc in the movie for me. The

1085
00:39:08,730 --> 00:39:12,030
strongest being Elena, second strongest being Bob,

1086
00:39:12,454 --> 00:39:14,635
and and third strongest being John.

1087
00:39:15,175 --> 00:39:17,255
Yeah. Again, I wish I could go back

1088
00:39:17,255 --> 00:39:19,815
and rewatch these movies, but it's harder to

1089
00:39:19,815 --> 00:39:20,954
do that these days,

1090
00:39:22,215 --> 00:39:23,114
unlike before.

1091
00:39:23,655 --> 00:39:25,500
And it's not just a movie for him.

1092
00:39:25,500 --> 00:39:27,679
Like, you're you're talking about a whole series.

1093
00:39:27,820 --> 00:39:29,739
But, yeah, going back series for him. Yeah.

1094
00:39:29,739 --> 00:39:31,500
Just going back to a Falcon and and

1095
00:39:31,500 --> 00:39:33,119
the Winter Soldier. Yeah.

1096
00:39:35,099 --> 00:39:37,440
So John Walker and then you have Ghost

1097
00:39:38,714 --> 00:39:41,194
who, honestly, I don't remember much from her

1098
00:39:41,194 --> 00:39:43,434
character arc. I don't remember her character arc.

1099
00:39:43,434 --> 00:39:45,295
I'm I remember her being there.

1100
00:39:45,674 --> 00:39:47,835
Yeah. And that's kind of it. Yeah. She

1101
00:39:47,835 --> 00:39:50,474
was there, and and then she helps them

1102
00:39:50,474 --> 00:39:50,974
more.

1103
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:52,940
So yeah.

1104
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,059
And then of course there's winter soldier who

1105
00:39:57,159 --> 00:39:58,699
so they come up out of the elevator

1106
00:39:59,239 --> 00:39:59,739
and

1107
00:40:00,199 --> 00:40:02,460
Valentina is like oh we gotta kill them.

1108
00:40:03,079 --> 00:40:05,195
So she sends people after them and then

1109
00:40:05,195 --> 00:40:07,034
she's like oh don't kill them Bob's with

1110
00:40:07,034 --> 00:40:08,735
them don't kill them.

1111
00:40:09,275 --> 00:40:10,655
And so it's non lethal

1112
00:40:11,434 --> 00:40:14,414
on on the army's part on on Valentina's

1113
00:40:14,554 --> 00:40:15,695
people's part but

1114
00:40:16,875 --> 00:40:18,335
they had the big long fight.

1115
00:40:19,190 --> 00:40:21,609
Bob is the one who he kind of

1116
00:40:23,190 --> 00:40:25,849
almost sacrifices himself so they can get away.

1117
00:40:26,630 --> 00:40:28,469
He lets himself get shot but he does

1118
00:40:28,469 --> 00:40:30,089
not die because he's

1119
00:40:31,204 --> 00:40:32,425
not just Bob anymore.

1120
00:40:33,125 --> 00:40:35,144
He is part of the failed experiments

1121
00:40:36,324 --> 00:40:37,465
but it's not a failure.

1122
00:40:37,925 --> 00:40:39,385
Not when it comes to Bob.

1123
00:40:40,405 --> 00:40:41,784
They succeeded with him

1124
00:40:42,565 --> 00:40:44,184
and so they capture

1125
00:40:45,700 --> 00:40:48,099
Bob and take him to New York to

1126
00:40:48,099 --> 00:40:49,160
the Avengers Tower

1127
00:40:50,099 --> 00:40:53,000
and Yelena and John Walker and Ghost escape.

1128
00:40:53,700 --> 00:40:55,800
They get picked up by Red Guardian

1129
00:40:56,500 --> 00:40:57,480
in his limo

1130
00:40:58,194 --> 00:41:00,135
because he heard what was going to happen.

1131
00:41:01,315 --> 00:41:02,054
And then

1132
00:41:02,835 --> 00:41:04,694
we have a a chase scene

1133
00:41:05,394 --> 00:41:07,894
and they get rescued by Winter Soldier.

1134
00:41:08,835 --> 00:41:11,340
And they're not just Senator Bucky Barnes. Yeah.

1135
00:41:11,820 --> 00:41:14,320
But they're not just rescued by him. They're

1136
00:41:14,460 --> 00:41:17,420
arrested by him. He captures them. And Does

1137
00:41:17,420 --> 00:41:19,360
he have the power to arrest me?

1138
00:41:20,619 --> 00:41:22,059
Well, he has the power to tie them

1139
00:41:22,059 --> 00:41:22,559
up.

1140
00:41:23,099 --> 00:41:26,025
Yeah. And it seems like the president legislative

1141
00:41:26,244 --> 00:41:28,184
branch, not the executive branch.

1142
00:41:30,005 --> 00:41:30,505
So

1143
00:41:31,765 --> 00:41:34,405
and they say, hey. We gotta convince you

1144
00:41:34,405 --> 00:41:35,684
to be a good guy. Be a good

1145
00:41:35,684 --> 00:41:37,445
guy with us. Come on. Let's be good

1146
00:41:37,445 --> 00:41:37,945
guys.

1147
00:41:38,519 --> 00:41:41,000
And finally they convince him to go and

1148
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:41,980
help Bob

1149
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,219
so they go to the Avengers Tower

1150
00:41:44,599 --> 00:41:45,660
and they have a plan

1151
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,000
and there's another fight sequence but it shut

1152
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:49,500
down

1153
00:41:50,164 --> 00:41:52,425
And the blonde hair on Bob.

1154
00:41:52,885 --> 00:41:55,625
Well, I'll get in there. But No. No.

1155
00:41:56,405 --> 00:41:57,464
The costume

1156
00:41:57,844 --> 00:41:58,344
works

1157
00:42:00,085 --> 00:42:02,005
in the sense that it was a comic

1158
00:42:02,005 --> 00:42:03,065
book accurate

1159
00:42:03,525 --> 00:42:05,144
portrayal of that character.

1160
00:42:06,339 --> 00:42:07,239
You look good.

1161
00:42:07,619 --> 00:42:09,320
He looks like a comic book version

1162
00:42:10,500 --> 00:42:11,940
where they put him in the costume. But

1163
00:42:12,260 --> 00:42:14,519
Blonde hair. No. No. Just

1164
00:42:15,619 --> 00:42:17,859
I could handle the costume, but the hair,

1165
00:42:17,859 --> 00:42:20,339
no. No. He his natural hair color looks

1166
00:42:20,339 --> 00:42:22,275
fine. Well, it's funny because,

1167
00:42:22,574 --> 00:42:24,094
you know, they're they're hung up on the

1168
00:42:24,094 --> 00:42:25,554
hair. You know? Like, he's

1169
00:42:26,414 --> 00:42:28,034
it's like, I don't know about this color.

1170
00:42:28,414 --> 00:42:29,614
I feel like you're talking a little too

1171
00:42:29,614 --> 00:42:30,675
much about the hair.

1172
00:42:31,215 --> 00:42:31,715
But

1173
00:42:32,255 --> 00:42:33,934
Well, I think that was the point was

1174
00:42:33,934 --> 00:42:35,934
the hair color was just all wrong for

1175
00:42:35,934 --> 00:42:36,434
him.

1176
00:42:37,190 --> 00:42:38,390
Well, but, I mean, they call him the

1177
00:42:38,390 --> 00:42:40,550
golden guardian or whatever and, like, they have

1178
00:42:40,550 --> 00:42:42,150
these all these nicknames for him, but he's

1179
00:42:42,150 --> 00:42:42,809
the sentry.

1180
00:42:43,869 --> 00:42:44,369
And,

1181
00:42:45,510 --> 00:42:47,510
again, this is a character from the comics.

1182
00:42:47,510 --> 00:42:49,130
I've talked about it a little bit before.

1183
00:42:49,325 --> 00:42:51,005
But the whole point that character in the

1184
00:42:51,005 --> 00:42:53,405
comics is he was the most powerful hero

1185
00:42:53,405 --> 00:42:54,545
in the Marvel Universe

1186
00:42:55,405 --> 00:42:55,905
but

1187
00:42:56,765 --> 00:42:59,025
the most powerful villain was also

1188
00:42:59,805 --> 00:43:00,625
part of him

1189
00:43:01,420 --> 00:43:04,219
And so when he finally defeated the void

1190
00:43:04,219 --> 00:43:04,960
in the comics,

1191
00:43:06,059 --> 00:43:08,559
they made it so the entire Marvel universe

1192
00:43:08,699 --> 00:43:10,639
forgot him and rewrote

1193
00:43:11,900 --> 00:43:14,539
their own history by taking him out of

1194
00:43:14,539 --> 00:43:16,454
it. But he was friends with Peter Parker,

1195
00:43:16,454 --> 00:43:18,454
and Peter Parker actually got along with the

1196
00:43:18,454 --> 00:43:20,875
police and with J. Jonah Jameson

1197
00:43:21,494 --> 00:43:24,054
because he was working with Century. And the

1198
00:43:24,054 --> 00:43:26,474
x men weren't rejected by humanity

1199
00:43:26,775 --> 00:43:29,094
because of the work that they did with

1200
00:43:29,094 --> 00:43:32,069
the Century. And the fantastic four did things

1201
00:43:32,069 --> 00:43:33,369
with him. And

1202
00:43:34,150 --> 00:43:35,909
and then because of his battle with the

1203
00:43:35,909 --> 00:43:37,429
void, they had to make it so that

1204
00:43:37,429 --> 00:43:40,230
the Marvel universe completely forgot him, and he

1205
00:43:40,230 --> 00:43:42,089
forgot who he was himself.

1206
00:43:43,425 --> 00:43:44,785
And that was the only way they could

1207
00:43:44,785 --> 00:43:45,684
save the world

1208
00:43:46,305 --> 00:43:48,224
was to do that. So what you're saying

1209
00:43:48,224 --> 00:43:49,905
is there there is a situation where we

1210
00:43:49,905 --> 00:43:51,425
can get him and Tom Holland on the

1211
00:43:51,425 --> 00:43:52,805
screen together. Definitely.

1212
00:43:53,425 --> 00:43:55,125
And that would be really confusing

1213
00:43:55,650 --> 00:43:57,429
until Tom puts the mask on.

1214
00:43:57,809 --> 00:44:01,030
Unless they keep that blonde hair. It's true.

1215
00:44:01,489 --> 00:44:03,670
Maybe that's why they wanted the blonde hair.

1216
00:44:05,329 --> 00:44:06,690
No. I think it was so they could

1217
00:44:06,690 --> 00:44:08,150
make jokes about the hair.

1218
00:44:08,769 --> 00:44:09,589
Yeah. Yeah.

1219
00:44:11,255 --> 00:44:13,275
Yeah. So they they come and they fight.

1220
00:44:13,815 --> 00:44:15,275
They they confront Valentina,

1221
00:44:15,735 --> 00:44:17,815
but they end up fighting him because he's

1222
00:44:17,815 --> 00:44:18,635
on her side

1223
00:44:19,175 --> 00:44:21,015
and he's doing what she asks him to

1224
00:44:21,015 --> 00:44:21,515
do.

1225
00:44:22,055 --> 00:44:23,195
And there is

1226
00:44:24,295 --> 00:44:25,114
no contest

1227
00:44:25,789 --> 00:44:27,489
at all. He doesn't wanna kill them,

1228
00:44:28,030 --> 00:44:29,409
but he fights them

1229
00:44:29,710 --> 00:44:30,210
and,

1230
00:44:31,469 --> 00:44:34,190
like, they don't have a chance against him.

1231
00:44:34,190 --> 00:44:35,570
He is so powerful.

1232
00:44:35,949 --> 00:44:38,349
But the problem is he also carries his

1233
00:44:38,349 --> 00:44:39,010
own demons.

1234
00:44:40,454 --> 00:44:40,954
And

1235
00:44:42,695 --> 00:44:43,675
that's the void.

1236
00:44:44,614 --> 00:44:47,175
And because of the godlike powers that he

1237
00:44:47,175 --> 00:44:47,675
has,

1238
00:44:49,494 --> 00:44:50,235
the unresolved

1239
00:44:50,535 --> 00:44:51,755
issues that he has

1240
00:44:52,535 --> 00:44:54,474
rise to the top the top

1241
00:44:55,509 --> 00:44:56,809
and give us the void.

1242
00:44:57,109 --> 00:44:59,109
And so that's one of the things I

1243
00:44:59,109 --> 00:45:00,809
like about this. You have, like, the big

1244
00:45:00,869 --> 00:45:03,289
giant action set piece at the end,

1245
00:45:03,909 --> 00:45:04,889
but you have

1246
00:45:05,509 --> 00:45:06,170
the resolution

1247
00:45:07,204 --> 00:45:10,485
of this big giant action set piece comes

1248
00:45:10,485 --> 00:45:10,985
from

1249
00:45:11,605 --> 00:45:12,905
the character arc

1250
00:45:13,684 --> 00:45:14,505
of Bob.

1251
00:45:15,284 --> 00:45:16,505
And yes, basically,

1252
00:45:17,045 --> 00:45:18,804
they win the day by giving him a

1253
00:45:18,804 --> 00:45:19,784
great big hug.

1254
00:45:20,789 --> 00:45:21,289
Okay.

1255
00:45:22,150 --> 00:45:23,050
Is it cheesy?

1256
00:45:23,349 --> 00:45:25,450
You bet. But is it good?

1257
00:45:26,390 --> 00:45:27,130
You bet.

1258
00:45:28,309 --> 00:45:30,550
It is. Is giving someone who's depressed a

1259
00:45:30,550 --> 00:45:32,890
really great big hug true to life?

1260
00:45:33,675 --> 00:45:36,575
It may not be, you know, it may

1261
00:45:38,474 --> 00:45:40,494
not be the perfect solution, but,

1262
00:45:41,114 --> 00:45:43,675
you know, it doesn't hurt. It doesn't solve

1263
00:45:43,675 --> 00:45:45,515
all his problems, but what it does help

1264
00:45:45,515 --> 00:45:47,960
with that the with his problems is they're

1265
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:49,659
coming to him and saying you're not alone.

1266
00:45:50,119 --> 00:45:51,980
Yeah. You're not alone.

1267
00:45:52,359 --> 00:45:53,900
And they have to come to that realization

1268
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:54,460
themselves.

1269
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:56,599
And then they come to him and that

1270
00:45:56,599 --> 00:45:57,659
you are not alone.

1271
00:45:58,039 --> 00:45:59,099
We are here.

1272
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,264
We're here with you. We're standing with you.

1273
00:46:02,264 --> 00:46:03,724
We're standing for you.

1274
00:46:04,105 --> 00:46:05,964
And again, it's heartfelt.

1275
00:46:06,505 --> 00:46:07,405
Is it cheesy?

1276
00:46:08,264 --> 00:46:08,764
Yes.

1277
00:46:09,065 --> 00:46:11,085
But it's the right kind of cheese.

1278
00:46:11,704 --> 00:46:14,684
And it's it's cheese that says something good.

1279
00:46:15,410 --> 00:46:17,030
And that says, you know,

1280
00:46:17,410 --> 00:46:19,650
yeah. You're right, Samantha. You're not gonna solve

1281
00:46:19,650 --> 00:46:21,190
everyone's problems with a hug.

1282
00:46:22,050 --> 00:46:23,970
But it's a start, and and he's in

1283
00:46:23,970 --> 00:46:26,230
a better place in the post credit. So

1284
00:46:27,010 --> 00:46:28,309
yeah. So they defeat

1285
00:46:29,085 --> 00:46:31,585
him by hugging him. They defeat the void,

1286
00:46:32,605 --> 00:46:34,364
because he's I I love it. Like, he

1287
00:46:34,364 --> 00:46:36,764
goes and he's just punching the void. And

1288
00:46:36,764 --> 00:46:38,784
as he's punching the void, he's becoming

1289
00:46:39,244 --> 00:46:40,784
the void, you know? And

1290
00:46:41,390 --> 00:46:43,230
and then they come and they gather around

1291
00:46:43,230 --> 00:46:45,329
him. They fight to get to him,

1292
00:46:45,630 --> 00:46:47,250
and they're fighting for him.

1293
00:46:47,710 --> 00:46:50,690
And, man, I like it. I like it

1294
00:46:52,110 --> 00:46:53,744
a lot. Yeah. I

1295
00:46:54,364 --> 00:46:55,585
also liked that,

1296
00:46:57,565 --> 00:46:59,505
it seemed like that he was

1297
00:47:01,164 --> 00:47:02,704
sort of dusting people.

1298
00:47:03,724 --> 00:47:06,144
And Elena figures out that it's not exactly

1299
00:47:06,204 --> 00:47:07,344
a dusting. It's

1300
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:08,639
it's,

1301
00:47:09,119 --> 00:47:13,059
he's taking them into their worst moments, and

1302
00:47:13,199 --> 00:47:15,920
she figures that if she runs towards the

1303
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,179
explosion and not run away that

1304
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,139
she can find she can fix the issue.

1305
00:47:21,605 --> 00:47:23,224
Yeah. Yeah. She

1306
00:47:24,085 --> 00:47:25,464
She's the brains of the operation.

1307
00:47:25,844 --> 00:47:27,224
It's a leap of faith.

1308
00:47:28,565 --> 00:47:29,525
100%

1309
00:47:29,525 --> 00:47:30,824
leap of faith because

1310
00:47:31,924 --> 00:47:33,844
she's trusting that the thing that happened to

1311
00:47:33,844 --> 00:47:35,684
her before when she touched his hand or

1312
00:47:35,684 --> 00:47:36,184
whatever

1313
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:38,659
is actually what's happening.

1314
00:47:39,119 --> 00:47:40,500
But she steps in

1315
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:42,900
and she's in her worst moment.

1316
00:47:44,079 --> 00:47:44,579
And

1317
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:47,359
okay. So now what are we gonna do?

1318
00:47:47,359 --> 00:47:50,079
Let's let's confront this. And and she works

1319
00:47:50,079 --> 00:47:52,825
through it. And and now she finds his

1320
00:47:52,825 --> 00:47:55,144
worst moments, and they're fighting through his worst

1321
00:47:55,144 --> 00:47:57,785
moments. And there's funniness to it. There's it's

1322
00:47:57,785 --> 00:47:58,765
definitely funny.

1323
00:47:59,864 --> 00:48:01,785
The whole, you know, he used to be

1324
00:48:01,785 --> 00:48:02,605
a sign spinner.

1325
00:48:02,905 --> 00:48:03,405
And,

1326
00:48:04,670 --> 00:48:07,250
he's using the sign to to hit them

1327
00:48:07,309 --> 00:48:10,769
and stuff. And, you know, it's funny. But,

1328
00:48:12,269 --> 00:48:13,489
but again, it's it's heartfelt.

1329
00:48:14,110 --> 00:48:15,470
And this is how they find out about

1330
00:48:15,470 --> 00:48:17,710
John Walker's worst day, you know, and this

1331
00:48:17,710 --> 00:48:18,450
is how they

1332
00:48:19,055 --> 00:48:20,835
they find out, you know, they they find

1333
00:48:21,695 --> 00:48:22,835
the the void

1334
00:48:23,775 --> 00:48:25,615
through this where they find like some of

1335
00:48:25,615 --> 00:48:28,414
what Bob's worst moments were were when he

1336
00:48:28,414 --> 00:48:30,035
was the void and he killed people.

1337
00:48:30,575 --> 00:48:31,555
And, yeah.

1338
00:48:31,934 --> 00:48:33,855
I I appreciated what they were trying to

1339
00:48:33,855 --> 00:48:34,355
do

1340
00:48:35,510 --> 00:48:36,409
and say

1341
00:48:37,030 --> 00:48:39,849
with all of this. Yeah. I I just

1342
00:48:40,630 --> 00:48:42,710
that final act, I really love it because

1343
00:48:42,710 --> 00:48:43,849
it was so different,

1344
00:48:44,550 --> 00:48:46,250
but it was well executed

1345
00:48:46,789 --> 00:48:47,929
compared to other

1346
00:48:48,474 --> 00:48:49,375
avenger movies.

1347
00:48:49,994 --> 00:48:51,934
Yeah I really liked it.

1348
00:48:52,394 --> 00:48:54,155
The one bad thing is this means we

1349
00:48:54,155 --> 00:48:56,094
had two marvel movies in a row

1350
00:48:56,714 --> 00:48:58,014
that end by

1351
00:48:58,315 --> 00:48:59,295
helping the

1352
00:48:59,914 --> 00:49:02,094
the bad guy confront his inner demons

1353
00:49:02,714 --> 00:49:03,214
and

1354
00:49:03,860 --> 00:49:05,140
and the bad guy is not actually a

1355
00:49:05,140 --> 00:49:05,880
bad guy.

1356
00:49:06,340 --> 00:49:08,039
You know, so you have the red hulk,

1357
00:49:08,659 --> 00:49:11,480
that whole situation with the the flower petals.

1358
00:49:12,179 --> 00:49:12,679
Yeah.

1359
00:49:12,980 --> 00:49:14,440
And and that but

1360
00:49:15,539 --> 00:49:16,739
and and I feel like I like this

1361
00:49:16,739 --> 00:49:17,400
one better.

1362
00:49:18,545 --> 00:49:20,065
I I I did like this one better.

1363
00:49:20,065 --> 00:49:22,065
But that the last two Marvel movies, this

1364
00:49:22,065 --> 00:49:22,964
one and and,

1365
00:49:24,144 --> 00:49:25,764
Captain America Brave New World,

1366
00:49:26,065 --> 00:49:27,045
a lot of similarities.

1367
00:49:27,984 --> 00:49:29,444
There's a lot of similarities

1368
00:49:29,744 --> 00:49:31,525
in just the style of the movie

1369
00:49:32,269 --> 00:49:33,409
and the resolution

1370
00:49:33,710 --> 00:49:35,409
of the movie. So when it ends,

1371
00:49:36,750 --> 00:49:38,449
they go to confront Valentina.

1372
00:49:41,309 --> 00:49:42,690
And they step through

1373
00:49:44,190 --> 00:49:45,730
the canvas or whatever,

1374
00:49:46,295 --> 00:49:48,075
the tarp, because she

1375
00:49:48,454 --> 00:49:50,375
she stepped away. And what she stepped away

1376
00:49:50,375 --> 00:49:52,295
into was a press conference. And they follow

1377
00:49:52,295 --> 00:49:53,894
her, and now they're in a press conference.

1378
00:49:53,894 --> 00:49:56,295
And she says, these are my new Avengers.

1379
00:49:56,295 --> 00:49:57,615
And that's what the actual Ben.

1380
00:49:58,055 --> 00:49:59,655
Ben. Mhmm. I have an issue with the

1381
00:49:59,655 --> 00:50:00,635
name New Avengers.

1382
00:50:01,380 --> 00:50:01,960
Tell me.

1383
00:50:02,819 --> 00:50:03,880
I don't like it.

1384
00:50:04,420 --> 00:50:06,260
I think Thunderbolts is a is a better

1385
00:50:06,260 --> 00:50:07,880
name for the team. It is.

1386
00:50:08,260 --> 00:50:10,599
And New Avengers sounds like they're just copying

1387
00:50:10,900 --> 00:50:12,739
the name of the old Avengers or the

1388
00:50:12,739 --> 00:50:15,000
original Avengers. I don't wanna call them old.

1389
00:50:15,344 --> 00:50:16,085
That's the point, I think.

1390
00:50:17,105 --> 00:50:18,644
Yeah. But it's it's

1391
00:50:19,025 --> 00:50:21,525
it doesn't sound nearly as cool as thunderbolts.

1392
00:50:21,984 --> 00:50:23,585
No. I did like the origin of the

1393
00:50:23,585 --> 00:50:26,144
thunderbolts name, though. Yeah. I did like that.

1394
00:50:26,224 --> 00:50:26,724
Selena's,

1395
00:50:27,505 --> 00:50:29,984
soccer team. Soccer team. Yeah. Sponsored by

1396
00:50:30,489 --> 00:50:31,230
I forget

1397
00:50:32,410 --> 00:50:32,910
who.

1398
00:50:34,090 --> 00:50:35,849
I really like that. They should have they

1399
00:50:35,849 --> 00:50:37,210
should have put their foot down and say,

1400
00:50:37,210 --> 00:50:39,849
no. We're we are the Thunderbolts. Maybe we'll

1401
00:50:39,849 --> 00:50:41,289
see that in the future. I hope so.

1402
00:50:41,289 --> 00:50:42,430
But Well,

1403
00:50:42,890 --> 00:50:45,614
I mean, they're definitely setting up a rivalry

1404
00:50:46,155 --> 00:50:46,655
between

1405
00:50:47,275 --> 00:50:48,494
the actual Avengers

1406
00:50:48,795 --> 00:50:49,295
that

1407
00:50:50,075 --> 00:50:52,394
was getting kick started in the Captain America

1408
00:50:52,394 --> 00:50:54,815
movie Yeah. And the new Avengers

1409
00:50:55,675 --> 00:50:56,655
with a z.

1410
00:50:57,195 --> 00:50:58,575
I felt called out

1411
00:50:59,000 --> 00:50:59,500
because

1412
00:51:01,079 --> 00:51:02,359
some of you may know one of my

1413
00:51:02,359 --> 00:51:04,359
book series that I have it's called time

1414
00:51:04,359 --> 00:51:04,859
flies

1415
00:51:06,199 --> 00:51:07,179
with a z

1416
00:51:08,039 --> 00:51:09,179
and the reason

1417
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:11,719
for the z was just to set it

1418
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:13,324
apart to make it so it was easier

1419
00:51:13,324 --> 00:51:14,625
to trademark or whatever.

1420
00:51:15,964 --> 00:51:17,744
And. Yeah, I stand by it.

1421
00:51:18,204 --> 00:51:18,704
Okay.

1422
00:51:19,085 --> 00:51:21,105
I stand by it. But

1423
00:51:21,405 --> 00:51:22,944
I did feel a little called out.

1424
00:51:23,804 --> 00:51:25,505
What can I say? It was the nineties,

1425
00:51:25,885 --> 00:51:26,340
right?

1426
00:51:28,900 --> 00:51:30,200
They don't have that excuse.

1427
00:51:32,340 --> 00:51:34,660
And yet everything in the nineties was changing

1428
00:51:34,660 --> 00:51:35,880
that s to a z.

1429
00:51:36,260 --> 00:51:38,680
Or throwing in an x with, you know,

1430
00:51:39,780 --> 00:51:41,239
extreme no e.

1431
00:51:41,700 --> 00:51:42,164
Yeah.

1432
00:51:42,724 --> 00:51:44,724
Yeah. Yeah. So they are the new Avengers.

1433
00:51:44,724 --> 00:51:46,425
They are actually in Avengers Tower

1434
00:51:46,724 --> 00:51:46,885
now.

1435
00:51:49,684 --> 00:51:51,465
They have Bob on their team

1436
00:51:52,485 --> 00:51:54,005
who doesn't do much for them, but he

1437
00:51:54,005 --> 00:51:54,985
does do the dishes.

1438
00:51:56,409 --> 00:51:58,809
Yeah. I was wondering okay. So is he

1439
00:51:58,809 --> 00:52:01,690
just avoiding being a superhero at this point

1440
00:52:01,690 --> 00:52:04,349
because he's afraid of the void coming back?

1441
00:52:04,889 --> 00:52:06,570
I think he really can't remember how to

1442
00:52:06,570 --> 00:52:07,389
use his powers.

1443
00:52:07,690 --> 00:52:08,505
Oh, okay.

1444
00:52:09,065 --> 00:52:10,664
Yeah. I I I really think that's what

1445
00:52:10,664 --> 00:52:12,664
they're setting up there is he he can't

1446
00:52:12,664 --> 00:52:14,424
remember. And it's good too because, I mean,

1447
00:52:14,424 --> 00:52:16,204
he's if he is century

1448
00:52:17,224 --> 00:52:18,744
yeah. There's a little void thing. But but

1449
00:52:18,744 --> 00:52:20,204
even just from a story perspective,

1450
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:24,059
he's basically the most powerful hero

1451
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,239
of all. Like, he's he's just so he

1452
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:28,679
you know, they they talk about how he

1453
00:52:28,679 --> 00:52:30,360
has the power. He's he's more powerful than

1454
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:31,099
the avengers,

1455
00:52:32,199 --> 00:52:33,640
and there is an actual god on the

1456
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:34,140
avengers,

1457
00:52:34,599 --> 00:52:35,500
you know, like,

1458
00:52:36,315 --> 00:52:36,815
And

1459
00:52:37,275 --> 00:52:37,775
so,

1460
00:52:38,554 --> 00:52:41,275
I they have to depower him, and they'll

1461
00:52:41,275 --> 00:52:42,954
have to find a good way to bring

1462
00:52:42,954 --> 00:52:44,714
back his powers, let him use his powers

1463
00:52:44,714 --> 00:52:46,635
a little bit, and then figure out how

1464
00:52:46,635 --> 00:52:48,954
do we not nullify our entire movie by

1465
00:52:48,954 --> 00:52:51,179
having him here just like Captain Marvel, really.

1466
00:52:51,500 --> 00:52:53,440
Yeah. So I wonder how he would,

1467
00:52:54,139 --> 00:52:55,119
stand up against,

1468
00:52:55,900 --> 00:52:58,559
Captain Marvel because she's pretty powerful too.

1469
00:52:59,179 --> 00:53:01,199
I think the intention is he's more powerful.

1470
00:53:01,260 --> 00:53:02,859
He's more powerful. Okay. I could be wrong,

1471
00:53:02,859 --> 00:53:04,784
and it really doesn't matter too much

1472
00:53:07,344 --> 00:53:09,025
if which one of them is more powerful.

1473
00:53:09,025 --> 00:53:10,964
They're they're really both of them very powerful,

1474
00:53:11,585 --> 00:53:13,025
and we'll just have to wait and see.

1475
00:53:13,025 --> 00:53:14,464
Maybe we'll just do some sort of thing

1476
00:53:14,464 --> 00:53:17,045
where everyone's swapping powers around and

1477
00:53:18,110 --> 00:53:20,510
they've already done that once. So When was

1478
00:53:20,510 --> 00:53:22,390
that? I can't Well, I'll just not remember.

1479
00:53:22,590 --> 00:53:24,750
Marvels. Oh. When Yeah. When the three of

1480
00:53:24,750 --> 00:53:25,390
them kept,

1481
00:53:25,789 --> 00:53:27,869
having their powers bounce around from between each

1482
00:53:27,869 --> 00:53:28,769
other Okay.

1483
00:53:29,150 --> 00:53:31,309
Is actually a really nice conceit that they

1484
00:53:31,309 --> 00:53:33,924
use to get around the fact that she's

1485
00:53:33,924 --> 00:53:34,505
so powerful.

1486
00:53:36,085 --> 00:53:37,464
Is is dealing with

1487
00:53:38,085 --> 00:53:40,824
added power, extra power, different powers,

1488
00:53:41,444 --> 00:53:43,045
and I I like that. That was a

1489
00:53:43,045 --> 00:53:44,585
good conceit that they used there.

1490
00:53:46,019 --> 00:53:46,519
Yeah.

1491
00:53:47,219 --> 00:53:47,719
So,

1492
00:53:48,500 --> 00:53:49,000
Valentina,

1493
00:53:50,500 --> 00:53:51,800
she makes it all work.

1494
00:53:52,579 --> 00:53:53,079
She

1495
00:53:53,380 --> 00:53:55,699
She's a spin doctor for sure. She is.

1496
00:53:55,699 --> 00:53:57,780
She is. There is one more character who

1497
00:53:57,780 --> 00:53:58,420
is a

1498
00:53:59,275 --> 00:54:01,275
not even an unsung hero. She's a sung

1499
00:54:01,275 --> 00:54:02,335
hero but Mel.

1500
00:54:03,195 --> 00:54:03,695
Yeah.

1501
00:54:04,074 --> 00:54:06,235
Mel. And and that was a good character

1502
00:54:06,235 --> 00:54:07,135
arc there too

1503
00:54:07,434 --> 00:54:08,655
where she just

1504
00:54:09,355 --> 00:54:11,295
gets pushed into doing the right thing

1505
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:12,980
because she realizes

1506
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:14,719
I wanna make the world a better place,

1507
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:16,320
but the way we're doing this isn't working

1508
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:16,820
well.

1509
00:54:17,199 --> 00:54:19,300
And Bucky pushes her

1510
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,239
to do well, to do that do well,

1511
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:22,980
do right.

1512
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:24,820
And and she does.

1513
00:54:25,614 --> 00:54:26,755
And, and helps.

1514
00:54:27,055 --> 00:54:29,474
And because she helps, they are able

1515
00:54:30,095 --> 00:54:31,135
to do what they need to do to

1516
00:54:31,135 --> 00:54:32,675
win the day. Without her,

1517
00:54:32,974 --> 00:54:34,735
they would not have won. They would not

1518
00:54:34,735 --> 00:54:36,015
have been able to do what they did.

1519
00:54:36,015 --> 00:54:38,114
So She was the secret weapon.

1520
00:54:38,469 --> 00:54:39,930
She was. Yeah. Yeah.

1521
00:54:41,269 --> 00:54:42,250
Yeah. So,

1522
00:54:42,710 --> 00:54:43,210
Mel,

1523
00:54:43,590 --> 00:54:45,829
good on you. Yeah. So we've talked about

1524
00:54:45,829 --> 00:54:48,150
characters. We've talked about plots. We've talked about

1525
00:54:48,150 --> 00:54:48,650
theme.

1526
00:54:50,789 --> 00:54:52,570
Stunts. I wanna mention the stunts.

1527
00:54:52,949 --> 00:54:53,449
Okay.

1528
00:54:54,284 --> 00:54:54,784
So

1529
00:54:55,724 --> 00:54:59,025
in previous MCU movies, it was very CGI

1530
00:54:59,164 --> 00:55:01,184
heavy. And with this movie,

1531
00:55:01,964 --> 00:55:02,784
the production

1532
00:55:03,085 --> 00:55:05,264
production team decided that

1533
00:55:05,724 --> 00:55:07,184
they were going to

1534
00:55:08,364 --> 00:55:08,864
do

1535
00:55:09,969 --> 00:55:12,309
the stunts as practical as possible.

1536
00:55:13,650 --> 00:55:15,329
I mean, there was some CGI in this

1537
00:55:15,329 --> 00:55:16,150
movie, but,

1538
00:55:16,610 --> 00:55:17,110
like,

1539
00:55:17,809 --> 00:55:20,070
Florence Pugh jumping off of that building,

1540
00:55:20,530 --> 00:55:22,289
she actually did it. And I think she's

1541
00:55:22,289 --> 00:55:24,289
in the Guinness Book of World Records now

1542
00:55:24,289 --> 00:55:26,905
for jump for the woman who's jumped from

1543
00:55:26,905 --> 00:55:28,204
the tallest

1544
00:55:28,824 --> 00:55:30,284
or second tallest building.

1545
00:55:30,664 --> 00:55:32,344
So that was Florence Pugh who actually did

1546
00:55:32,344 --> 00:55:34,425
that? Yeah. She and a,

1547
00:55:34,744 --> 00:55:36,744
one one of her stunt doubles both did

1548
00:55:36,744 --> 00:55:37,484
it. Yeah.

1549
00:55:38,099 --> 00:55:41,059
She she's gone into interviews saying, yeah. I

1550
00:55:41,059 --> 00:55:42,519
have zero fear of heights.

1551
00:55:42,980 --> 00:55:44,420
I could not do it. I could I

1552
00:55:44,420 --> 00:55:45,619
would not be able to get to the

1553
00:55:45,619 --> 00:55:46,680
edge of that building

1554
00:55:47,220 --> 00:55:48,119
on the roof.

1555
00:55:49,619 --> 00:55:50,119
Oh,

1556
00:55:50,824 --> 00:55:51,324
wow.

1557
00:55:52,264 --> 00:55:52,764
Yeah.

1558
00:55:53,304 --> 00:55:55,065
And she had to convince Feige to let

1559
00:55:55,065 --> 00:55:57,385
her do it too because the insurance company

1560
00:55:57,385 --> 00:55:59,224
would not cover her. Everyone wants to be

1561
00:55:59,224 --> 00:55:59,964
Tom Cruise.

1562
00:56:00,424 --> 00:56:00,924
Yeah.

1563
00:56:02,264 --> 00:56:03,960
She can be Tom Cruise if she wants

1564
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:06,039
to. I'll I'll stay in the movie theater.

1565
00:56:06,039 --> 00:56:07,820
I'll just I'll just stay in the audience.

1566
00:56:10,119 --> 00:56:12,839
And, the, building blowing up in the beginning

1567
00:56:12,839 --> 00:56:14,519
of the movie where she's walking away, I

1568
00:56:14,519 --> 00:56:16,414
think she's holding a a gerbil. Hamster. And

1569
00:56:16,414 --> 00:56:18,135
she's on the phone, and she's like, hold

1570
00:56:18,135 --> 00:56:20,235
on one second. And she turns around, explosion.

1571
00:56:22,375 --> 00:56:24,715
That really happened. That was not CGI.

1572
00:56:27,815 --> 00:56:30,329
Yeah. A lot of these effects were they

1573
00:56:30,329 --> 00:56:31,070
were practical,

1574
00:56:31,530 --> 00:56:32,730
and I have to give it up to

1575
00:56:32,730 --> 00:56:34,809
the producers for making that choice because I

1576
00:56:34,809 --> 00:56:35,309
I

1577
00:56:36,090 --> 00:56:38,730
I like CGI. I think CGI has made

1578
00:56:38,730 --> 00:56:41,469
huge strides in the past thirty years,

1579
00:56:42,410 --> 00:56:45,744
but I I still like practical effects as

1580
00:56:45,744 --> 00:56:47,824
much as possible. And I understand there are

1581
00:56:47,824 --> 00:56:50,484
just some situations where it's it's

1582
00:56:52,065 --> 00:56:54,085
better to use the CGI, but

1583
00:56:54,385 --> 00:56:57,105
if you can use practically, use practical. Yeah.

1584
00:56:57,105 --> 00:56:59,380
That's cool. I did not realize that at

1585
00:56:59,380 --> 00:57:01,880
all. Mhmm. Alright. Well, I think

1586
00:57:02,500 --> 00:57:03,619
I think we should wrap this one up.

1587
00:57:03,619 --> 00:57:04,840
Do you have any final words?

1588
00:57:05,860 --> 00:57:08,039
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1589
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Blessed Cheesemaker, Jeffrey, Andrew, Tazzle, and Edwin. Thank

1590
00:57:12,420 --> 00:57:14,684
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1591
00:57:14,684 --> 00:57:16,125
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1592
00:57:16,125 --> 00:57:17,664
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1593
00:57:18,125 --> 00:57:18,945
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1594
00:57:20,285 --> 00:57:22,605
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1595
00:57:22,605 --> 00:57:23,825
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1596
00:57:24,364 --> 00:57:27,030
but yeah. Yeah. So join us. Welcome to

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1600
00:57:35,190 --> 00:57:37,510
That's pretty much it right now as far

1601
00:57:37,510 --> 00:57:39,355
as, like, your your perks. But the other

1602
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1603
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1604
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1605
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Yeah.

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It is

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1608
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Yeah.

1609
00:57:52,889 --> 00:57:54,590
I would like to say also

1610
00:57:56,170 --> 00:57:57,710
I am really sorry

1611
00:57:58,010 --> 00:57:58,510
Samantha

1612
00:57:58,969 --> 00:57:59,469
for

1613
00:58:00,090 --> 00:58:01,789
all those times when,

1614
00:58:02,889 --> 00:58:04,030
we were scheduling

1615
00:58:04,409 --> 00:58:06,885
things and I was you know I I

1616
00:58:06,885 --> 00:58:08,804
was doing my other job I was doing

1617
00:58:08,804 --> 00:58:10,585
my other job and you

1618
00:58:10,885 --> 00:58:11,285
know

1619
00:58:11,765 --> 00:58:13,224
just thinking about other superheroes

1620
00:58:13,765 --> 00:58:15,605
you know you know you know what other

1621
00:58:15,605 --> 00:58:17,864
superheroes I've been thinking about right Samantha?

1622
00:58:18,929 --> 00:58:20,550
I'll give you a hint. Cucumber.

1623
00:58:20,929 --> 00:58:21,429
Cucumber.

1624
00:58:21,809 --> 00:58:22,309
Cucumber.

1625
00:58:22,849 --> 00:58:23,349
Cucumber.

1626
00:58:33,105 --> 00:58:35,344
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1627
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The music for this episode is The Light

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you stream your music. Until next time, thanks

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for listening, and godspeed.

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Alright.

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Well, I think that what we could talk

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00:59:27,069 --> 00:59:28,909
about for our post credit is just upcoming

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00:59:28,909 --> 00:59:29,889
superhero movies,

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00:59:31,715 --> 00:59:34,394
and not not cucumber ones. But,

1653
00:59:36,355 --> 00:59:39,394
Yeah. I totally thought moving into June that

1654
00:59:39,394 --> 00:59:41,735
we had Superman and Fantastic Four, but

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00:59:42,434 --> 00:59:44,434
rather than June, it is gonna be July.

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00:59:44,434 --> 00:59:47,239
July is gonna be the month for superheroes

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00:59:48,019 --> 00:59:48,519
this

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00:59:49,539 --> 00:59:53,159
year where we have Superman and Fantastic Four.

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00:59:53,300 --> 00:59:55,800
So so excited about both of those.

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00:59:57,539 --> 00:59:59,719
Samantha, I don't know. Are you excited about

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00:59:59,940 --> 01:00:00,840
about the Superman?

1662
01:00:02,135 --> 01:00:03,755
Do you want to see that? Yeah.

1663
01:00:04,775 --> 01:00:06,614
I will try to go see it. I

1664
01:00:06,614 --> 01:00:09,474
I am excited. Yeah. I'm I'm Nick

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01:00:09,815 --> 01:00:11,594
Nicholas Holt's playing Lex Luthor.

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01:00:12,534 --> 01:00:13,110
I mean,

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01:00:13,910 --> 01:00:15,849
that's excellent casting in my eyes.

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01:00:16,630 --> 01:00:19,190
I'm not too familiar with the actor who's

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01:00:19,190 --> 01:00:20,970
playing Clark Kent, Superman.

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01:00:22,309 --> 01:00:24,730
Though I have an issue is that he

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01:00:25,110 --> 01:00:27,855
kind of sorta reminds me of Nathan Fillion

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01:00:27,855 --> 01:00:30,175
a little bit, and Nathan Fillion is also

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01:00:30,175 --> 01:00:30,994
in this movie.

1674
01:00:31,534 --> 01:00:33,534
Yeah. But they do not look this is

1675
01:00:33,534 --> 01:00:34,594
not a Tom Holland,

1676
01:00:36,815 --> 01:00:39,235
Bill Pullman's son situation. You will not

1677
01:00:40,190 --> 01:00:42,690
you won't have any troubles telling them apart

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01:00:42,750 --> 01:00:43,250
because

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01:00:43,949 --> 01:00:47,250
Nathan Fillion looks very un Nathan Fillion like.

1680
01:00:48,269 --> 01:00:50,369
Yeah. It's just this actor

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01:00:50,909 --> 01:00:53,329
and Nathan, they they have similar noses

1682
01:00:55,014 --> 01:00:57,815
and face structure, and it's just every time

1683
01:00:57,815 --> 01:00:58,934
I see this guy, I'm like, is that

1684
01:00:58,934 --> 01:01:00,875
Nathan? No. That's that's that's

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01:01:01,255 --> 01:01:03,735
this new guy. So, yeah, I have to

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01:01:03,735 --> 01:01:04,635
look at him twice

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01:01:05,414 --> 01:01:06,315
to be sure.

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01:01:06,695 --> 01:01:09,130
So it's it's just I think that this

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01:01:09,130 --> 01:01:12,010
is so cool that that of course, I

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01:01:12,010 --> 01:01:14,349
thought it was June, but but in July,

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01:01:14,809 --> 01:01:16,650
you have these two big, you know, the

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01:01:16,650 --> 01:01:17,469
big DC

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01:01:17,769 --> 01:01:18,010
and the

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01:01:18,890 --> 01:01:19,390
really,

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01:01:19,769 --> 01:01:21,150
Superman is the

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01:01:21,625 --> 01:01:22,125
primary

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01:01:22,425 --> 01:01:24,585
character that put DC on the map as

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01:01:24,585 --> 01:01:25,405
far as, like,

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01:01:25,785 --> 01:01:28,905
action comics. And Yeah. You know, and so

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01:01:28,905 --> 01:01:31,244
you have Superman who who kind of was

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01:01:31,465 --> 01:01:32,925
the kick start for

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01:01:33,545 --> 01:01:35,704
for DC, and then you have Fantastic Four

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01:01:35,704 --> 01:01:36,204
who

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01:01:36,829 --> 01:01:38,989
they were kind of the what kick started

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01:01:38,989 --> 01:01:41,650
the the superhero age of Marvel Comics.

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01:01:42,269 --> 01:01:43,010
And and

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01:01:43,309 --> 01:01:44,909
and Fantastic Four is coming out two weeks

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01:01:44,909 --> 01:01:45,409
later.

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01:01:45,710 --> 01:01:46,210
So,

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01:01:47,230 --> 01:01:49,650
yeah, in July, you also have Jurassic World

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and

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01:01:52,135 --> 01:01:52,954
you have

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01:01:54,215 --> 01:01:54,715
Madea's

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01:01:55,015 --> 01:01:56,235
destination wedding

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01:01:56,855 --> 01:01:58,215
and the remake of I know what you

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01:01:58,215 --> 01:01:59,195
did last summer

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01:01:59,494 --> 01:02:01,195
and the big one of course

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01:02:02,055 --> 01:02:02,555
Superman

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01:02:02,855 --> 01:02:04,695
you think about these three movies in the

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01:02:04,695 --> 01:02:06,635
same breath really Superman

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01:02:07,079 --> 01:02:07,579
Fantastic

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01:02:08,039 --> 01:02:09,579
Four Happy Gilmore two.

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01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:13,340
That's that's our July everyone like we

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01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:16,360
I can't wait Samantha to sit down with

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01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:18,360
hopefully you and Stewart to talk about Happy

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01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:19,420
Gilmore two because

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01:02:20,295 --> 01:02:23,275
that is complete surprise to me.

1728
01:02:24,295 --> 01:02:25,815
I had no idea that that was a

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01:02:25,815 --> 01:02:28,875
thing so I will watch it I will.

1730
01:02:29,335 --> 01:02:29,994
I will

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01:02:30,614 --> 01:02:31,195
too. But

1732
01:02:32,534 --> 01:02:33,034
yeah

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01:02:33,619 --> 01:02:34,980
was not expecting you to see that when

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01:02:34,980 --> 01:02:36,199
I was looking on the list

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01:02:36,500 --> 01:02:39,300
to see, oh, when is Superman actually oh,

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01:02:39,300 --> 01:02:41,000
first of all, I'm wrong about the month.

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01:02:41,780 --> 01:02:44,039
And second of all, happy Gilmore too.

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01:02:44,420 --> 01:02:44,920
Yeah.

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01:02:45,300 --> 01:02:48,440
We have casting connection between Thunderbolts and,

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01:02:49,175 --> 01:02:52,155
Superman. Wendell Pierce, who played another senator,

1741
01:02:54,775 --> 01:02:57,735
he's playing Perry White in this movie in

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01:02:57,735 --> 01:03:00,215
in the Superman movie. Yeah. Frank Riller's in

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01:03:00,215 --> 01:03:01,195
this movie too?

1744
01:03:02,199 --> 01:03:03,980
Okay. Also in September

1745
01:03:04,599 --> 01:03:07,099
is, the final Downton Abbey movie.

1746
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:10,219
Spinal Tap two.

1747
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:13,079
September. September. I did not know that there

1748
01:03:13,079 --> 01:03:15,099
was another Downton Abbey movie.

1749
01:03:15,945 --> 01:03:16,445
Yeah.

1750
01:03:16,985 --> 01:03:19,325
It's it they actually call it Downton Abbey,

1751
01:03:19,785 --> 01:03:22,204
the grand finale. We'll see about that.

1752
01:03:22,744 --> 01:03:24,425
Well, I haven't I haven't seen the last

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01:03:24,425 --> 01:03:24,925
movie.

1754
01:03:25,785 --> 01:03:27,144
Pam and I went and saw the first

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01:03:27,144 --> 01:03:28,345
movie in the theater, but then we never

1756
01:03:28,345 --> 01:03:29,625
got around to watching the last well, the

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01:03:29,625 --> 01:03:32,179
second one they did. The second one's really

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01:03:32,179 --> 01:03:32,679
cute.

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01:03:33,380 --> 01:03:34,519
It's it's just,

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01:03:37,380 --> 01:03:40,019
there's a moment of inversion between the upstairs

1761
01:03:40,019 --> 01:03:40,760
and downstairs.

1762
01:03:41,780 --> 01:03:43,539
You get to see that. It's it's just

1763
01:03:43,539 --> 01:03:45,805
really sweet. If you like the series, you'll

1764
01:03:45,805 --> 01:03:46,625
like the movie,

1765
01:03:47,085 --> 01:03:49,644
this the second movie. So yeah. But a

1766
01:03:49,644 --> 01:03:51,184
big big month in July,

1767
01:03:51,965 --> 01:03:53,244
and June is,

1768
01:03:54,925 --> 01:03:56,364
not as exciting as I thought it was

1769
01:03:56,364 --> 01:03:58,045
gonna be. Yeah. I was just looking at

1770
01:03:58,045 --> 01:03:59,980
it, and I'm like, there's not really much

1771
01:03:59,980 --> 01:04:01,599
here I would wanna go see,

1772
01:04:02,700 --> 01:04:04,780
which is fine because I'm gonna be very

1773
01:04:04,780 --> 01:04:06,940
busy in the next month. So You won't

1774
01:04:06,940 --> 01:04:08,880
have time to see it anyway. Yeah.

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01:04:09,260 --> 01:04:11,660
Alright. Well, everyone, thanks so much for listening.

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01:04:11,660 --> 01:04:14,065
Samantha, thank you for joining me again. And,

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01:04:14,304 --> 01:04:15,985
we still need to get together and talk

1778
01:04:15,985 --> 01:04:16,644
about Daredevil

1779
01:04:17,425 --> 01:04:18,965
season finale. So

1780
01:04:19,664 --> 01:04:21,985
that is I have my notes right here

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01:04:21,985 --> 01:04:24,065
ready to go. I cannot stay up late

1782
01:04:24,065 --> 01:04:25,285
to talk about it, but

1783
01:04:26,385 --> 01:04:28,005
I'm ready to go. Alright.

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01:04:28,465 --> 01:04:30,187
To everyone else who's listening right now, thank

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01:04:30,187 --> 01:04:31,467
you so much for spending time with us.

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01:04:31,467 --> 01:04:33,087
We appreciate you, and godspeed.