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Daredevil Born Again season one episode five and

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six with interest and excessive

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Welcome to level seven,

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a podcast about Marvel's Agents of S. H.

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I. E. L. D. And the Marvel Cinematic

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Universe.

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It's a magical place.

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Hello, everyone. It's me, Ben. Ben Avery here

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flying solo to talk about Daredevil Born Again

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season one episodes five and six.

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And I'm actually excited to talk about these

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episodes, not because

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Samantha's not here, not because Stewart's not here.

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For those of you unfamiliar with the show,

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I don't normally do these solo episodes. I

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do have two cohosts, Samantha and Stewart.

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Both of them were not able to be

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here. I'll talk more about that in just

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a moment. This podcast is a podcast about

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the Marvel Cinematic Universe and that means TV,

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that means streaming, that means movies, and right

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now that means Daredevil

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born again. And so just to warn you,

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we do spoil everything. And if you're just

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joining us for the first time here, I

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am going to talk about these two episodes

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of Daredevil Born Again with

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full on spoilers. Not only that, I might

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talk about things from

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Daredevil season one, Daredevil season two,

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and or

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the earlier episodes of Daredevil Born Again. So

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that is kind of our spoiler policy. If

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we've talked about it on the podcast before,

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we are

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it's open season

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on spoilers. And so I will be talking

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about in-depth

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episode five and episode six of Daredevil

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Born Again, but I'll be doing it by

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myself.

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When we were trying to set up a

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time to record, Samantha, Stuart and I, there's

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things going on in their lives.

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Life comes first, that's what we always say

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about podcasting.

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Samantha had some family stuff,

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the baby and and just things going on

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with that.

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And I asked Stuart if he could help.

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And he said help with what? And I

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I said can you help record about Daredevil

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Born Again? He said what's that? What what

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is that? I said it's a Marvel. It's

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a Marvel show. And and Stewart said what

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what's Marvel?

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talking about. And I said well, you you

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co host a podcast about Marvel TV and

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movies. And he said, I I don't do

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that. I'd co host a podcast about Disney,

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like, about the Disney parks and and stuff.

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this Marvel thing you're talking about? And I

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said, hey. It's me, Ben. Ben Avery, your

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friend. He said, who are you? I don't

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even know you.

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it was it was a weird conversation.

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in in the end, he said, well, you

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should probably record about it yourself. And I

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said, okay. And and yeah. So none of

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that was true, but I I do hope

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that Stewart does end up listening to this

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episode at some point in time and hears

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me talking about him the way I used

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to talk about dandy Daniel Butcher.

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be able to record about this, and they

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so I said, well, let's I'll I'll go

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solo and they said that's not a bad

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these two episodes. So I'm gonna talk a

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little bit about that. Talk a little bit

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about the episodes, why I liked them because

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I did. I liked both of these episodes

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quite a bit. They both did different things,

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although they do kind of dovetail together and

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that kinda goes to,

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Samantha's Samantha's biggest question. So she sent me

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this note. She said,

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at Ben Avery, you might want to do

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a solo episode which is something I don't

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want but it's becoming clearer that it'll be

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necessary necessary this week. I thought the bank

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heist episode was fun and it was great

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to see Iosef Khan again. Because all the

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action was contained in and around the bank,

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this could be a solo episode to show

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someone who isn't familiar with a dare with

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daredevil. It's almost a ship in a bottle

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episode but all the locations are new to

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has a short paragraph about the next episode.

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the thing I was going to talk about

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to launch this conversation,

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this particular topic that she has here. But,

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was actually called With Interest, which goes along

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with the whole banking theming.

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good job. Clever, clever title.

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thing on on Disney is a day in

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the life of Matt Murdock, goods and tenants,

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forcing him to team up with a familiar

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face. This episode, what I liked about it

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was it really felt like a well, Samantha

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guy of the week.

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Matt Murdock is Daredevil in every episode

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and this would be the one where, oh,

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he has to figure out how does he

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take care of the problem

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without revealing who he is. And he still

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it and there's a lot of fun stuff.

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it'd be easy to just jump in and

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watch the episode and just see

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a one off adventure

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kind of a thing. And

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which was nice. The one off adventure is

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it was cool and it was a fun

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adventure.

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in one of the fight scenes

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and and some of the language.

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what they did with this episode

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is what I wonder they had intended to

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from the beginning

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before it kind of got revamped and before

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they brought in Foggy and Karen and before

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a show that was going to have,

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a whole bunch of of Punisher and and

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that kind of thing.

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about what got changed.

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of what they had been talking about doing

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wasn't to be like a She Hulk kind

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that already. I mean, you have the White

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it's kind of doing its own thing. It's

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basically tell one long story. It's not like

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an episode like this and think, okay,

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and make did they make a couple changes

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there's more of that that through line for

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to even do much editing at all? I

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for Daredevil.

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the way that this ties in thematically to

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the whole idea of Matt Murdock not being

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Daredevil.

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is that he has to do daredevil stuff.

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no way around it. If he is going

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anything to help, he's gonna use he's gonna

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be able to use his powers,

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but people are going to be hurt if

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he doesn't.

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if he does not use his powers,

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people will get hurt. And that's what pushes

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him into things. And

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of Daredevil is not Daredevil right now. I

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how many episodes in are we? Five episodes

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and we've seen him in costume in the

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first episode. We've seen him do a couple

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moves in the fourth episode and now we

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see him here actually doing some superheroing

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in this episode where he is indeed,

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using his powers

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there there's not the equivalent

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from season three, which was amazing.

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of my season three thoughts,

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if you wait a few episodes because I'm

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gonna put compile that together. But if you

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there's not a lot of back and forth.

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I do need to figure out a way

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to talk about Star Trek in the midst

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of this, but,

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you know, I I I don't know if

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I'm going to be able to do that

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or not.

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But somehow, you know, usually we find a

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way. You know, life

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finds a way.

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So anyway,

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where was I?

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I said there's no extraneous stuff but I

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I just,

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do I edit this out now or not?

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I mean, I was just talking about how

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I'm not gonna need to but,

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oh, yeah. The whole idea of him not

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being daredevil

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and then there's some fight scenes and the

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one fight scene in the stairwell where it

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has to be silent because they don't want

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the other bad guys to hear

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what's going on

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And that's that's cool.

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And it was a cool fight.

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It was tense.

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And it was

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it was hard for him to, you know,

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get the win because he not only had

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to beat up the guy, but he had

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to do so quietly and make sure the

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guy was quiet.

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Then you have the fight scene at the

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end where he has put on one of

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their masks. Now it's Saint Patrick's Day and

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you have these Irish thieves coming to this

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bank

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and they are there to get a

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specific,

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drawer from the vault and it's escaped my

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mind what they call that. But anyway, that's

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what they want and they figured out, you

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know, they're not just there to get money

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because aren't money in the vaults,

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those vault drawer things. It's something specific they're

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after.

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And so

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he they they come in and they have

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masks on and I appreciate this. I didn't

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see this coming. I should have

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Or maybe some of you did. I don't

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know. Did you? Let us know in the

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in the comments. But,

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they take off their masks at the end

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and he grabs a mask and puts it

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on. And it just happens to be the

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red one. And it's kind of funny because

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we already had a reference when he's talking

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to Camilla Khan's

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father about getting a loan.

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His Camilla Khan's father says, oh you're not

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wearing green. Watch out a leprechaun might pinch

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you because of Saint Patrick's Day.

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And he's like, oh,

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But I I really I go for muted

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colors because

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I I want to make sure that, it

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doesn't clash too bad. But he's put on

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this red mask now. And that is kind

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of a symbolic moment for him where, okay,

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it's not just,

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that I'm doing my duty.

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It's I am potentially

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stepping back into

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this

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role that I have let go of.

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And so

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there he is.

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He's Daredevil, and he's wearing a red ski

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mask.

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And

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I appreciate that moment quite a bit actually.

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I appreciate it quite a bit because of

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what it means for the character development

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over

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the course of the season, not just

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in that one episode.

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And so here he is. He's got the

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mask on and then he's he's he's basically

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become Daredevil again.

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And we're all very happy because that's what

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we want. We want Daredevil back. So

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okay.

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So that's a a big moment, a big

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deal.

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You have some small moments that are also

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kind of big deals because this is the

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episode where they bring in Kamala Khan's

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dad. And I know for myself, there were

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some concerns about bringing Kamala Khan's dad into

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the show because of,

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for lack of a better term, tone issues.

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And what I mean by that is,

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for the extreme example,

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I am going to be very glad not

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to see She Hulk

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in this show because

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of tone issues.

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It's just she's jokey jokey. She's break the

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fourth wall

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and we are in a little bit more

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of a serious situation here for for these,

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this episode these episodes this season.

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And so I feel like they did a

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great job bringing him in, using him well.

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I I had no idea that they would

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bring him in by using him as a

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a banker

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and that's gonna be what their connection point

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is, but it works well. It's nice and

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and,

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he has great personality.

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He's very proud of his daughter and that's

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that's very clear. This gives us more ties

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to each other because

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of Ms. Marvel, that series, but also because

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of The Marvels,

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that movie.

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And by the end of the episode, he's

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being invited. Matt Murdock is being invited to

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a family dinner at the Conant's house. And

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Matt Murdock says, I will do this, but

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I would like to do it at a

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time when your daughter is around because

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I'd like to meet her. You seem like

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you're very proud of her. He's also very

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proud of the

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local hero

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that they have. And it's another nice nice

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moment where he's talking about his daughter. And

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it is interesting. I mean, they had to

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get his daughter out of there because if

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she knew that this was going on, she

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would show up. Now

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she probably wouldn't make it for all the

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action.

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I feel like if she did find out,

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it would be after most of the the

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the thing had was done. Most of this

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event will have run its course before she

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would have a chance to get back in

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and she

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she might show up when everything was all

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done which actually would be kind of a

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funny funny little tag scene kind of a

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thing. But

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anyway,

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bringing him in was great. Now there's also

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some things that are missing from this episode.

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Fisk is missing. He's not here and the

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presence

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or the lack of presence

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is felt for sure.

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Muse. We don't get much of muse in

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this episode.

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We don't get much really of any of

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the supporting cast. This is but again, this

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is what you do when you have a

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twenty four, twenty six episode

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season.

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Do you you have episodes like this where

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the supporting cast gets to take the week

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off and they're still gonna be mentioned in

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the credits, but they're gonna have time off

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away from the set.

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And

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so it just

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it worked. I enjoyed what they did with

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this episode and I it worked

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for me especially because it was a standalone

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episode.

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And it just felt like another episode in

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a string of Daredevil adventures. And it would

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have been interesting to see

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adventures.

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And

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it would have been interesting to see the

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season that they cooked up and started

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and had multiple episodes

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finished

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and see how that would have all played

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out if it had been more like

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this. More like and when I say more

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like this,

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more like

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Lois and Clark, the new adventures of Superman.

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More like

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this would be a a deep cut for

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some people, Nightman.

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More like, honestly, Nightrider.

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More like

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your

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do gooder superhero shows where there's a bad

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guy every week, they take care of that

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bad guy and once they are done with

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that bad guy, they might come back. They

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might come back for another episode,

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but they're

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probably not going to come back because

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we have another episode with another bad guy

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coming.

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And and that kind of storytelling

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does work. I mean, that's we we talk

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about

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like the history of television

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and

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it's interesting because there are some shows that

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are stepping backward.

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Talk about the history of television,

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Star Trek, you know. Hey, it's my Star

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Trek reference. Very good. Very good.

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Star Trek started out in the sixties, very

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episodic.

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What happened in one episode had very very

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little impact on the following episodes

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or the surrounding episodes

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and you could watch in any order really.

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The one thing that might happen is they

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added Chekov for you know a season and

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he wasn't there in season one but he's

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there now. But does that

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continuity

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matter too much? Not not really. You know

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that you're on a ship, they're gonna do

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this thing and they're gonna have that adventure.

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Then you

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have Next Generation come along and Next Generation

514
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follows that same pattern as it syndicated in

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the eighties.

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But then they wanna bring in another series

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and Deep Space Nine comes along and Deep

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Space Nine starts out episodic

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but kinda makes the shift into

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a ongoing storyline for the seasons. And so

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you will have episodes where they play baseball

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and you will have episodes where they're exploring

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the Delta Quadrant or the

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think it's the Delta Quadrant.

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You'll have those episodes that are stand alone

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but they're happening against the background of the

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dominion war, you know. And that's going on

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in the background and that's what they're building

529
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up toward this big giant climax.

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And so for Star Trek The Next Generation,

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for their

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really strong ending, it was another

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kind of stand alone episode but kind of

534
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like a good series finale

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encapsulates

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the entire show. For Deep Space Nine, it

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was able to do the same kind of

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thing where it's referencing those early episodes but

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it's also building up towards this giant conflict

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that they had going on in the middle

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of you know, with with the with war

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and all that stuff.

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Voyager

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does a similar thing

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with

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the whole idea of every episode is they're

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trying to get home. The problem is they

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they went back to that episodic,

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vibe and and feel. But what was happening

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at the same time as Deep Space Nine

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was

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Babylon five. Babylon five was kinda changing things.

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Now you could say Babylon five wasn't there

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first. You know you can go back to

555
00:19:55,839 --> 00:19:57,679
Twin Peaks. You go back then to really

556
00:19:57,679 --> 00:19:59,599
soap operas but I'm talking about science fiction

557
00:19:59,599 --> 00:20:01,919
television right now where you have like these

558
00:20:01,919 --> 00:20:03,299
kind of ongoing narratives

559
00:20:03,679 --> 00:20:06,339
and Babylon five ongoing narrative. Lost

560
00:20:06,724 --> 00:20:09,545
changed everything where it was a science fiction

561
00:20:10,005 --> 00:20:12,085
soap opera and it changed the face of

562
00:20:12,085 --> 00:20:15,125
network television and, you know, every show that

563
00:20:15,125 --> 00:20:15,865
came after

564
00:20:16,644 --> 00:20:18,565
Lost felt like they were trying to be

565
00:20:18,565 --> 00:20:21,089
the next Lost. You had Jericho, you had

566
00:20:21,250 --> 00:20:23,169
the Surface was one and you had all

567
00:20:23,169 --> 00:20:24,710
these different shows that were

568
00:20:26,450 --> 00:20:28,690
trying to be lost with this ongoing is

569
00:20:28,690 --> 00:20:30,789
a novel for television kind of a thing.

570
00:20:31,490 --> 00:20:32,630
And then you have

571
00:20:33,615 --> 00:20:35,775
X Files, which was straddling in between there

572
00:20:35,775 --> 00:20:37,934
as well. X Files had this narrative kinda

573
00:20:37,934 --> 00:20:40,815
going, but then you have the episodic episodes

574
00:20:40,815 --> 00:20:42,575
where here's the monster of the week, and

575
00:20:42,575 --> 00:20:43,555
now here is

576
00:20:44,015 --> 00:20:46,255
just a little bit about the cigarette smoking

577
00:20:46,255 --> 00:20:48,339
man has something to do with the monster

578
00:20:48,339 --> 00:20:50,819
of the week, maybe. But then we are

579
00:20:50,819 --> 00:20:52,500
gonna go ahead and have an episode that's

580
00:20:52,500 --> 00:20:54,839
just about lore, and it's just about mythology,

581
00:20:55,460 --> 00:20:58,740
and it's just about these longer threads that

582
00:20:58,740 --> 00:21:00,440
they're playing out until

583
00:21:00,740 --> 00:21:02,440
you get, like I said, the lost,

584
00:21:02,865 --> 00:21:04,644
and then you get to

585
00:21:05,025 --> 00:21:05,525
Discovery,

586
00:21:05,984 --> 00:21:08,484
back to Star Trek where it's all

587
00:21:09,025 --> 00:21:09,525
that

588
00:21:10,224 --> 00:21:10,724
single

589
00:21:11,184 --> 00:21:11,684
narrative

590
00:21:12,545 --> 00:21:14,484
and then you have the pushback

591
00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:17,539
and that's what Strange New Worlds is doing.

592
00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:19,619
And Strange New Worlds,

593
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,079
they have the mythology going on in the

594
00:21:22,079 --> 00:21:23,839
background where you have this kind of through

595
00:21:23,839 --> 00:21:26,579
line, same with even lower decks. But

596
00:21:27,279 --> 00:21:28,579
to bring it back to Daredevil,

597
00:21:29,204 --> 00:21:30,265
I feel like

598
00:21:30,884 --> 00:21:31,384
this

599
00:21:32,085 --> 00:21:32,585
season,

600
00:21:32,884 --> 00:21:34,585
they ended up accidentally

601
00:21:34,884 --> 00:21:36,025
straddling the line

602
00:21:36,565 --> 00:21:38,424
because of what had come before

603
00:21:40,644 --> 00:21:42,664
in their creation of Born Again

604
00:21:43,190 --> 00:21:45,589
and what was happening then when they wanted

605
00:21:45,589 --> 00:21:47,369
to make it more like the old

606
00:21:47,670 --> 00:21:48,170
Daredevil

607
00:21:48,549 --> 00:21:50,089
series from from Netflix.

608
00:21:50,549 --> 00:21:52,230
And so here we are where we get

609
00:21:52,230 --> 00:21:52,730
this

610
00:21:53,109 --> 00:21:53,609
standout

611
00:21:53,990 --> 00:21:56,410
episode. This is a fantastic episode.

612
00:21:57,044 --> 00:21:58,264
Solid four and a half

613
00:22:00,484 --> 00:22:00,984
candies,

614
00:22:01,605 --> 00:22:02,105
butterscotch

615
00:22:02,484 --> 00:22:02,984
candies,

616
00:22:04,644 --> 00:22:05,625
out of five.

617
00:22:06,085 --> 00:22:06,585
It's

618
00:22:07,284 --> 00:22:09,845
solid. It's really, really good. I really enjoyed

619
00:22:09,845 --> 00:22:12,099
it. It's a character piece. You get to

620
00:22:12,099 --> 00:22:14,519
see Matt Murdock wrestling with the situation.

621
00:22:14,980 --> 00:22:16,579
How do I do what's right? How do

622
00:22:16,579 --> 00:22:17,799
I do what's best?

623
00:22:18,259 --> 00:22:20,519
I can't turn my back on this.

624
00:22:20,980 --> 00:22:21,480
And

625
00:22:22,595 --> 00:22:25,154
and then he uses his powers to, you

626
00:22:25,154 --> 00:22:27,015
know, open the safe. And he uses

627
00:22:27,315 --> 00:22:29,234
they use their logic to figure out we

628
00:22:29,234 --> 00:22:31,714
can we need to get only these ones

629
00:22:31,714 --> 00:22:33,555
with these numbers, you know. We got this

630
00:22:33,555 --> 00:22:34,835
key but we don't have the number and

631
00:22:34,835 --> 00:22:35,309
so we

632
00:22:36,029 --> 00:22:37,549
and so they figure it out. There's just

633
00:22:37,549 --> 00:22:39,970
good stuff going on here, well written,

634
00:22:40,430 --> 00:22:41,410
tightly paced.

635
00:22:42,670 --> 00:22:43,970
The bad guys are

636
00:22:44,509 --> 00:22:46,590
stock bad guys. Like, they don't have too

637
00:22:46,590 --> 00:22:48,990
much motivation other than we gotta get this

638
00:22:48,990 --> 00:22:50,795
thing because we we were told to get

639
00:22:50,795 --> 00:22:52,875
this thing and we want money, you know,

640
00:22:52,875 --> 00:22:54,555
and we'll get paid if we get this

641
00:22:54,555 --> 00:22:55,055
thing.

642
00:22:55,515 --> 00:22:56,015
But,

643
00:22:56,795 --> 00:22:59,194
there's the interplay between the bad guy, the

644
00:22:59,194 --> 00:23:01,434
the lead of that lead bad guy and

645
00:23:01,434 --> 00:23:03,994
the the police officer who takes control. And

646
00:23:03,994 --> 00:23:06,339
she's can't remember her name right now, but

647
00:23:06,339 --> 00:23:08,259
she was with Cherry in the first episode

648
00:23:08,259 --> 00:23:10,359
and she's definitely risen up in the ranks.

649
00:23:10,740 --> 00:23:12,500
And she's a solid cop and I feel

650
00:23:12,500 --> 00:23:13,880
like she's going to be an ally.

651
00:23:14,180 --> 00:23:15,779
I hope she's going to be an ally

652
00:23:15,779 --> 00:23:17,460
especially considering some things that are happening in

653
00:23:17,460 --> 00:23:19,394
the next episode that we'll talk about right

654
00:23:19,394 --> 00:23:22,134
about now actually. So the next episode,

655
00:23:23,234 --> 00:23:25,634
and let's see. This is what Samantha says

656
00:23:25,634 --> 00:23:26,134
about

657
00:23:27,075 --> 00:23:28,695
episode six, excessive

658
00:23:29,474 --> 00:23:29,974
force.

659
00:23:31,315 --> 00:23:34,035
The muse episode was fun in a dark

660
00:23:34,035 --> 00:23:36,819
and scary way. It's interesting to watch Matt

661
00:23:36,819 --> 00:23:37,640
and Fisk

662
00:23:38,099 --> 00:23:40,599
sink back into old habits.

663
00:23:41,539 --> 00:23:43,859
Yes. It is. And that's really what I

664
00:23:43,859 --> 00:23:45,619
feel like this episode is doing. Now this

665
00:23:45,619 --> 00:23:47,960
episode is also setting up the

666
00:23:48,339 --> 00:23:49,960
the the goon squad

667
00:23:51,115 --> 00:23:53,774
that the kingpin is is pulling together because

668
00:23:54,714 --> 00:23:56,335
there's a serial killer out there.

669
00:23:56,794 --> 00:23:58,095
And he's gonna

670
00:23:58,554 --> 00:24:01,115
have a police force that is under his

671
00:24:01,115 --> 00:24:01,615
control,

672
00:24:01,994 --> 00:24:05,009
that he's going to they're gonna report to

673
00:24:05,009 --> 00:24:05,509
him,

674
00:24:05,809 --> 00:24:07,590
they aren't gonna have cameras,

675
00:24:08,130 --> 00:24:10,070
they are gonna be able to use excessive

676
00:24:10,130 --> 00:24:10,630
force,

677
00:24:11,090 --> 00:24:14,130
they are going to stop the scourge of

678
00:24:14,130 --> 00:24:14,630
vigilantism

679
00:24:15,170 --> 00:24:15,670
in

680
00:24:15,970 --> 00:24:17,954
in New York City. And I just I

681
00:24:17,954 --> 00:24:19,954
hate the word vigilante because I don't know

682
00:24:19,954 --> 00:24:21,394
how to say it right. I and I

683
00:24:21,394 --> 00:24:23,255
feel like I say it different every time.

684
00:24:23,474 --> 00:24:23,974
But

685
00:24:25,315 --> 00:24:28,275
anyway, I'm saying it wrong. Maybe, maybe not.

686
00:24:28,275 --> 00:24:29,954
Sometimes I'm saying it right though I'm sure

687
00:24:29,954 --> 00:24:31,474
because I say it different every time. I

688
00:24:31,474 --> 00:24:32,994
I can't be wrong a % of the

689
00:24:32,994 --> 00:24:33,210
time.

690
00:24:34,169 --> 00:24:34,829
But anyway,

691
00:24:35,929 --> 00:24:38,509
he's he's building that and and that's him

692
00:24:39,529 --> 00:24:40,029
doing

693
00:24:41,849 --> 00:24:42,349
politics

694
00:24:44,569 --> 00:24:45,789
in the old style.

695
00:24:46,649 --> 00:24:47,769
When I say in the old style, I

696
00:24:47,769 --> 00:24:48,429
mean his

697
00:24:48,855 --> 00:24:49,355
old

698
00:24:49,815 --> 00:24:51,414
style. The other thing that we get here

699
00:24:51,414 --> 00:24:53,194
is we get the swordsman.

700
00:24:53,974 --> 00:24:56,454
The swordsman is there. He is there. I,

701
00:24:57,255 --> 00:24:58,234
and he is

702
00:24:58,694 --> 00:25:01,015
he's here from Hawkeye, and it's nice to

703
00:25:01,015 --> 00:25:01,740
see him.

704
00:25:02,220 --> 00:25:03,440
He's not a nice guy.

705
00:25:03,900 --> 00:25:06,480
He's not a great guy and he's there.

706
00:25:07,980 --> 00:25:09,839
He he's nicer than Kingpin though.

707
00:25:10,140 --> 00:25:11,119
So there's that.

708
00:25:11,900 --> 00:25:13,519
Kingpin's whole thing is

709
00:25:14,394 --> 00:25:17,355
he needs people to support him and he

710
00:25:17,355 --> 00:25:19,134
needs money really too

711
00:25:19,515 --> 00:25:21,994
to support what he wants to do with

712
00:25:21,994 --> 00:25:22,494
rebuilding

713
00:25:22,875 --> 00:25:23,775
and revitalizing,

714
00:25:25,115 --> 00:25:26,714
part of the part of New York that

715
00:25:26,714 --> 00:25:29,170
no one cares about except for him. And

716
00:25:29,170 --> 00:25:31,809
people are, of course, very suspect of what

717
00:25:31,809 --> 00:25:33,890
is he even doing? Why is he doing

718
00:25:33,890 --> 00:25:34,789
what he's doing?

719
00:25:36,289 --> 00:25:38,130
And none of the people of the none

720
00:25:38,130 --> 00:25:40,150
of New York's elite are interested.

721
00:25:40,769 --> 00:25:41,509
And so

722
00:25:41,970 --> 00:25:44,694
he's finding that he's kind of powerless. And

723
00:25:44,694 --> 00:25:45,515
in the meantime,

724
00:25:46,054 --> 00:25:47,974
he's also finding out that there's a serial

725
00:25:47,974 --> 00:25:51,755
serial killer who is using his victim's blood

726
00:25:52,454 --> 00:25:56,154
in the artwork that he's doing on buildings.

727
00:25:56,839 --> 00:25:59,080
And it's he's also covering it in an

728
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,640
epoxy that makes it very, very difficult to

729
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,099
even get off of

730
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,099
the buildings. And so

731
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:06,700
it's gross

732
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:08,140
and people,

733
00:26:08,519 --> 00:26:10,519
if they found out, would be very grossed

734
00:26:10,519 --> 00:26:12,474
out about it. And there's back and forth

735
00:26:12,474 --> 00:26:13,835
about do we tell the public? Do we

736
00:26:13,835 --> 00:26:15,515
not tell the public? If we don't tell

737
00:26:15,515 --> 00:26:16,174
the public,

738
00:26:16,554 --> 00:26:17,054
then

739
00:26:17,434 --> 00:26:19,274
this guy will continue doing what he's doing.

740
00:26:19,274 --> 00:26:20,974
If we do tell the public,

741
00:26:21,355 --> 00:26:23,774
then he might disappear and stop.

742
00:26:24,169 --> 00:26:25,789
And so it's an understandable

743
00:26:26,730 --> 00:26:28,190
quandary that they're in,

744
00:26:28,490 --> 00:26:30,349
but Fisk's solution is

745
00:26:30,890 --> 00:26:32,029
give me some cops

746
00:26:32,569 --> 00:26:34,650
and I'll I'll let them do whatever they

747
00:26:34,650 --> 00:26:36,970
wanna do. And when they do whatever they

748
00:26:36,970 --> 00:26:39,704
wanna do, they're gonna be able to basically

749
00:26:40,804 --> 00:26:44,004
rid the streets of masked people because my

750
00:26:44,004 --> 00:26:46,404
cops aren't gonna wear masks and they're also

751
00:26:46,404 --> 00:26:48,884
not gonna wear cameras. And they're also gonna

752
00:26:48,884 --> 00:26:50,565
be able to use weapons they wanna use.

753
00:26:50,565 --> 00:26:52,325
They're also gonna be able to be creative

754
00:26:52,325 --> 00:26:53,625
in how they do things.

755
00:26:54,259 --> 00:26:54,759
And

756
00:26:55,779 --> 00:26:58,179
yeah, so not a good situation. And of

757
00:26:58,179 --> 00:27:00,359
course, you know, we're on a collision course

758
00:27:00,819 --> 00:27:01,799
with daredevil

759
00:27:02,339 --> 00:27:03,079
and punisher.

760
00:27:03,539 --> 00:27:05,539
And a lot of these police officers are

761
00:27:05,539 --> 00:27:07,480
guys who are wearing punisher tattoos.

762
00:27:08,179 --> 00:27:08,679
And

763
00:27:09,025 --> 00:27:11,285
you know, they kinda like the idea

764
00:27:11,744 --> 00:27:13,605
of being able to clean the streets

765
00:27:14,224 --> 00:27:14,964
their way.

766
00:27:16,464 --> 00:27:19,045
So that's Fisk's big, big issue.

767
00:27:20,065 --> 00:27:21,125
Then you have

768
00:27:21,424 --> 00:27:23,680
what I was worried about. I was worried

769
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,119
about and I think I talked about this

770
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:26,100
in the last episode,

771
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,299
White Tiger's niece. Her name's Angel.

772
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:30,420
And

773
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,279
of course you got Daredevil and Angel. It's

774
00:27:33,279 --> 00:27:35,039
pretty much on the nose. It's like naming

775
00:27:35,039 --> 00:27:37,125
a character Faith or hope

776
00:27:37,664 --> 00:27:39,664
and you know naming a character hope is

777
00:27:39,664 --> 00:27:42,065
gonna get kidnapped and and you have to

778
00:27:42,065 --> 00:27:42,565
save

779
00:27:42,865 --> 00:27:44,085
hope and

780
00:27:44,545 --> 00:27:45,845
yeah it's

781
00:27:46,865 --> 00:27:49,519
it's on the nose. It it definitely is.

782
00:27:49,900 --> 00:27:50,400
But

783
00:27:50,779 --> 00:27:52,539
that might be and maybe I should look

784
00:27:52,539 --> 00:27:53,920
that up to see because,

785
00:27:55,180 --> 00:27:57,100
I know that White Tiger's I don't know

786
00:27:57,100 --> 00:27:58,779
much more about the the one I'm about

787
00:27:58,779 --> 00:28:00,720
to say. White Tiger's niece

788
00:28:01,900 --> 00:28:02,400
is

789
00:28:03,535 --> 00:28:06,515
the current White Tiger in in Marvel Comics.

790
00:28:06,974 --> 00:28:09,154
And let's find out what her name actually

791
00:28:09,214 --> 00:28:10,755
is. White Tiger.

792
00:28:11,775 --> 00:28:12,835
We have Hector

793
00:28:15,055 --> 00:28:17,875
and we have so there's Hector

794
00:28:19,380 --> 00:28:20,519
and there's

795
00:28:20,980 --> 00:28:21,480
Casper

796
00:28:22,420 --> 00:28:26,420
Casper Cole. Angela del Toro. Okay. Alright. I

797
00:28:26,420 --> 00:28:28,440
stand corrected. Her name was

798
00:28:28,820 --> 00:28:30,680
Angela in the comics.

799
00:28:32,225 --> 00:28:32,725
And

800
00:28:33,585 --> 00:28:35,045
I don't know if

801
00:28:36,785 --> 00:28:38,805
in the context here in Daredevil,

802
00:28:39,105 --> 00:28:40,725
I was gonna say it's kind of cheap.

803
00:28:41,025 --> 00:28:41,525
Alright?

804
00:28:41,985 --> 00:28:43,825
But in the context there, I don't know

805
00:28:43,825 --> 00:28:45,789
if it's cheap or not. And that's not

806
00:28:45,789 --> 00:28:47,630
to say I've not even done cheap stuff

807
00:28:47,630 --> 00:28:49,789
like that before. I have. When I choose

808
00:28:49,789 --> 00:28:52,690
names for my own comics and my novel

809
00:28:53,230 --> 00:28:55,230
and and my short stories and things like

810
00:28:55,230 --> 00:28:57,890
that sometimes I choose names that have meaning.

811
00:28:58,654 --> 00:29:01,234
Usually, I don't go quite on the nose

812
00:29:01,375 --> 00:29:02,674
as angel

813
00:29:03,694 --> 00:29:04,095
or,

814
00:29:05,054 --> 00:29:08,494
as hope or faith. Okay. But but I

815
00:29:08,494 --> 00:29:09,474
do sometimes,

816
00:29:10,450 --> 00:29:12,769
find I have twins that were in a

817
00:29:12,769 --> 00:29:15,410
a young adult or not a middle grade

818
00:29:15,410 --> 00:29:17,650
reader novel that I wrote and the twins

819
00:29:17,650 --> 00:29:19,430
were, Remy and Rami.

820
00:29:19,890 --> 00:29:21,350
Ram Romulus and Remus.

821
00:29:21,730 --> 00:29:23,350
Remy and Rami, they were twins.

822
00:29:23,890 --> 00:29:26,184
Although I do have a connection to the

823
00:29:26,184 --> 00:29:28,044
name Remus. That is my

824
00:29:28,424 --> 00:29:30,984
my mom's maiden name. And so I just

825
00:29:30,984 --> 00:29:33,804
gave away a security question, I guess.

826
00:29:34,345 --> 00:29:34,845
But,

827
00:29:35,865 --> 00:29:37,085
yeah. So anyway,

828
00:29:38,259 --> 00:29:40,420
that's why Romulus and Remus is is on

829
00:29:40,420 --> 00:29:41,720
my on my radar.

830
00:29:42,660 --> 00:29:43,799
And anyway,

831
00:29:45,140 --> 00:29:47,480
I stand corrected. I I apologize

832
00:29:48,179 --> 00:29:49,480
to the creators

833
00:29:49,779 --> 00:29:51,559
of Daredevil for

834
00:29:53,394 --> 00:29:56,775
harping on the name. But still, I mean

835
00:29:58,914 --> 00:30:00,134
yeah. So anyway,

836
00:30:00,914 --> 00:30:02,994
let's get away from from that. What I

837
00:30:02,994 --> 00:30:05,234
was worried about was when she had that

838
00:30:05,234 --> 00:30:08,134
interaction with Matt Murdock in the prison

839
00:30:09,150 --> 00:30:10,750
after no. It wasn't in the prison. It

840
00:30:10,750 --> 00:30:12,849
was in the courthouse, I think.

841
00:30:13,470 --> 00:30:15,070
No. It was at the police it was

842
00:30:15,070 --> 00:30:16,349
at it was at the police,

843
00:30:16,990 --> 00:30:17,490
police

844
00:30:18,190 --> 00:30:20,990
headquarters or whatever because she she was picking

845
00:30:20,990 --> 00:30:23,809
or he Daredevil was picking up, Hector's stuff

846
00:30:24,345 --> 00:30:26,585
And and the the amulets were in there.

847
00:30:26,585 --> 00:30:28,345
And I was afraid that she was going

848
00:30:28,345 --> 00:30:29,244
to get the amulet,

849
00:30:30,025 --> 00:30:31,724
and she was going to get powers,

850
00:30:32,265 --> 00:30:33,724
and she was gonna go

851
00:30:34,345 --> 00:30:35,804
and she was going to

852
00:30:36,424 --> 00:30:38,069
find herself in over her head

853
00:30:39,269 --> 00:30:40,329
fighting against

854
00:30:40,789 --> 00:30:41,289
Muse.

855
00:30:42,789 --> 00:30:44,329
I was half right.

856
00:30:45,349 --> 00:30:46,329
It was worse.

857
00:30:46,710 --> 00:30:49,509
She goes after Muse by herself with no

858
00:30:49,509 --> 00:30:53,365
powers, just by herself. And she gets caught

859
00:30:53,365 --> 00:30:55,224
by Muse, and she gets

860
00:30:55,845 --> 00:30:57,224
brought into his lair.

861
00:30:57,684 --> 00:30:58,184
And

862
00:30:58,804 --> 00:31:00,565
let's let's face it. If a villain has

863
00:31:00,565 --> 00:31:02,424
a lair, that's gonna be a particularly

864
00:31:02,724 --> 00:31:05,400
bad villain. I mean, for for one of

865
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,559
two reasons. Either they're just not very good

866
00:31:07,559 --> 00:31:08,539
at what they do

867
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:09,660
as a villain

868
00:31:10,039 --> 00:31:13,160
or they're really, really meticulous at what they

869
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,320
do as a villain. And that's Muse. He

870
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,880
is meticulous. He brings her in. He sets

871
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,545
her down on on a operating bed and

872
00:31:20,545 --> 00:31:23,105
it's all dirty and grimy and it's in

873
00:31:23,105 --> 00:31:25,845
the subway. And I'm reminded of the original,

874
00:31:26,384 --> 00:31:28,625
Superman. Superman the movie, I should say. There

875
00:31:28,625 --> 00:31:30,144
were other some some other Superman stuff and

876
00:31:30,144 --> 00:31:32,485
there was even another Superman movie before Superman

877
00:31:32,785 --> 00:31:33,525
the movie.

878
00:31:34,430 --> 00:31:36,509
Superman and the Moleman. If you're curious what

879
00:31:36,509 --> 00:31:38,529
the title was, it's not very good. So

880
00:31:38,910 --> 00:31:40,509
I think if you let your curiosity stop

881
00:31:40,509 --> 00:31:41,869
at the title, that's gonna be good enough

882
00:31:41,869 --> 00:31:43,029
for you. But if you want, you can,

883
00:31:43,029 --> 00:31:44,930
you know, seek it out or whatever. But

884
00:31:45,150 --> 00:31:47,164
and there's the serials too, of course. But

885
00:31:47,164 --> 00:31:49,724
anyway, Superman the movie, Lex Luthor has his

886
00:31:49,724 --> 00:31:50,224
lair

887
00:31:50,684 --> 00:31:53,644
in the subway system, and that's what I'm

888
00:31:53,644 --> 00:31:55,025
reminded of of here.

889
00:31:55,644 --> 00:31:56,464
And so

890
00:31:57,085 --> 00:31:58,224
Muse has

891
00:31:58,684 --> 00:32:01,005
her there, and he's draining her blood, and

892
00:32:01,005 --> 00:32:03,840
it's not very good. And then Daredevil shows

893
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:05,539
up and starts to fight

894
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:06,900
with

895
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:08,180
Muse.

896
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,039
Now here is where we get some really

897
00:32:11,039 --> 00:32:12,019
good storytelling.

898
00:32:12,559 --> 00:32:13,059
Again,

899
00:32:13,519 --> 00:32:15,359
I have to give kudos to the people

900
00:32:15,359 --> 00:32:17,140
doing Daredevil Born Again

901
00:32:17,644 --> 00:32:18,144
round

902
00:32:19,325 --> 00:32:20,704
one or round two.

903
00:32:21,484 --> 00:32:23,964
Definitely round two because they either put it

904
00:32:23,964 --> 00:32:26,464
in or chose to keep it. Okay? But

905
00:32:26,764 --> 00:32:28,524
whatever it is they did and and I

906
00:32:28,524 --> 00:32:30,464
did do some reading about some of this.

907
00:32:30,589 --> 00:32:32,190
It was interesting to find out the whole

908
00:32:32,190 --> 00:32:33,730
interaction with Punisher

909
00:32:34,430 --> 00:32:35,970
back in, episode,

910
00:32:36,829 --> 00:32:38,049
four I think it was.

911
00:32:39,230 --> 00:32:40,210
That interaction

912
00:32:40,910 --> 00:32:41,970
that they had

913
00:32:42,269 --> 00:32:43,009
was interesting

914
00:32:43,470 --> 00:32:43,970
because

915
00:32:44,964 --> 00:32:46,825
that was from round one.

916
00:32:47,684 --> 00:32:49,764
And they just went back and they're like,

917
00:32:49,764 --> 00:32:51,204
well that actually was supposed to be in

918
00:32:51,204 --> 00:32:52,964
a later episode but they decided to pull

919
00:32:52,964 --> 00:32:54,325
it in. And that's why it felt a

920
00:32:54,325 --> 00:32:56,085
little out of place. It's just like Daredevil

921
00:32:56,085 --> 00:32:57,865
all of a sudden just goes to Punisher's

922
00:32:58,004 --> 00:32:59,779
place. He knows where it is. He doesn't

923
00:32:59,779 --> 00:33:01,460
even have to look for it, and he

924
00:33:01,460 --> 00:33:03,059
finds it, and he goes there, and and

925
00:33:03,059 --> 00:33:04,819
they have the conversation. And then they added

926
00:33:04,819 --> 00:33:05,559
in a couple

927
00:33:06,019 --> 00:33:07,079
lines to make it

928
00:33:07,779 --> 00:33:09,000
more appropriate

929
00:33:09,299 --> 00:33:10,279
to that moment

930
00:33:11,315 --> 00:33:13,394
with to have that conversation earlier than what

931
00:33:13,394 --> 00:33:15,394
was originally intended to be. But what was

932
00:33:15,394 --> 00:33:16,914
nice about it is it brought in John

933
00:33:16,914 --> 00:33:18,454
Barenthol, brought in Punisher

934
00:33:18,835 --> 00:33:19,335
earlier

935
00:33:19,634 --> 00:33:21,875
so we could see some of what their

936
00:33:21,875 --> 00:33:24,434
conflict is is going to be. And also

937
00:33:24,434 --> 00:33:26,055
you get that emotional push

938
00:33:26,559 --> 00:33:28,420
from a colleague, from a peer.

939
00:33:29,119 --> 00:33:30,820
And so for this episode,

940
00:33:33,359 --> 00:33:36,180
if they had this stuff happening with Muse

941
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:37,700
already and originally,

942
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:39,859
great. And they kept it, great.

943
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:40,820
Because

944
00:33:41,524 --> 00:33:43,924
what happens here is you have two fights

945
00:33:43,924 --> 00:33:46,085
happening at the same time but they mirror

946
00:33:46,085 --> 00:33:48,345
each other. They rhyme so to speak.

947
00:33:48,804 --> 00:33:49,304
And

948
00:33:50,085 --> 00:33:52,825
you know you'll have Daredevil pick up White

949
00:33:53,044 --> 00:33:54,884
Tiger pick up Muse and he's about to

950
00:33:54,884 --> 00:33:56,789
throw him down and then they'll cut to

951
00:33:56,789 --> 00:33:57,289
Kingpin

952
00:33:57,589 --> 00:34:00,089
picking up Adam and throwing him down.

953
00:34:00,390 --> 00:34:03,130
And, of course, Kingpin is not fighting someone

954
00:34:03,269 --> 00:34:04,250
to, you know,

955
00:34:05,750 --> 00:34:07,450
for any kind of righteous motivation.

956
00:34:07,909 --> 00:34:10,230
He has some anger that he needs to

957
00:34:10,230 --> 00:34:13,434
get out and he's choosing to do so

958
00:34:13,735 --> 00:34:14,715
the old way.

959
00:34:15,015 --> 00:34:16,795
But this is both of them, like Samantha

960
00:34:16,855 --> 00:34:17,355
said,

961
00:34:18,215 --> 00:34:20,454
both of them sinking back into old habits.

962
00:34:20,454 --> 00:34:22,855
This is Daredevil going and fighting a bad

963
00:34:22,855 --> 00:34:23,355
guy,

964
00:34:24,279 --> 00:34:26,039
and there's a lot of rage there that

965
00:34:26,039 --> 00:34:27,719
he has that he's letting out as he's

966
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:28,539
fighting. And,

967
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,639
will be interesting as we find out, is

968
00:34:31,639 --> 00:34:33,659
the rage stuff that's happening

969
00:34:34,199 --> 00:34:37,319
going to be something that he has to

970
00:34:37,319 --> 00:34:38,139
fight through?

971
00:34:39,675 --> 00:34:43,355
And he has rage because he's being forced

972
00:34:43,355 --> 00:34:44,335
to be Daredevil?

973
00:34:44,715 --> 00:34:46,315
Or is it something he's gonna be fighting

974
00:34:46,315 --> 00:34:48,494
through because he has this rage

975
00:34:48,875 --> 00:34:51,994
and it's it's there in spite of being

976
00:34:51,994 --> 00:34:54,420
Daredevil and and and he needs to, you

977
00:34:54,420 --> 00:34:54,920
know,

978
00:34:55,300 --> 00:34:57,699
bring it under control. You know, don't let

979
00:34:57,699 --> 00:34:59,699
the anger control you. You control the anger.

980
00:34:59,699 --> 00:35:01,239
So that that sort of thing.

981
00:35:01,699 --> 00:35:02,519
But anyway,

982
00:35:03,059 --> 00:35:03,559
the

983
00:35:04,500 --> 00:35:06,579
two fights that are happening, they mirror each

984
00:35:06,579 --> 00:35:08,819
other. They rhyme with each other because both

985
00:35:08,819 --> 00:35:11,614
of these fights have these main characters

986
00:35:12,074 --> 00:35:13,775
coming back to themselves.

987
00:35:14,635 --> 00:35:16,655
Matt Murdock is in the Daredevil

988
00:35:17,434 --> 00:35:17,934
costume.

989
00:35:18,315 --> 00:35:20,335
He's wearing the suit.

990
00:35:21,035 --> 00:35:24,170
He is Daredevil again and he's doing the

991
00:35:24,170 --> 00:35:27,949
Daredevil thing. He's going after a bad guy.

992
00:35:28,650 --> 00:35:31,389
And Muse for an artist, you know, you

993
00:35:32,089 --> 00:35:34,329
the guy is also a martial artist. Okay?

994
00:35:34,329 --> 00:35:37,005
He's he's not just a fine artist. He

995
00:35:37,005 --> 00:35:38,385
is a martial artist.

996
00:35:38,924 --> 00:35:39,424
But

997
00:35:40,204 --> 00:35:42,464
they have this fight. It's a big fight

998
00:35:42,684 --> 00:35:45,244
and it's a brutal fight and and Matt

999
00:35:45,244 --> 00:35:47,804
Murdock is using his weapon. Now we also

1000
00:35:47,804 --> 00:35:49,984
have Kingpin who has that cane and,

1001
00:35:51,170 --> 00:35:52,849
but the way that they cut between these

1002
00:35:52,849 --> 00:35:55,570
two fights is really well done and really

1003
00:35:55,570 --> 00:35:56,309
well choreographed.

1004
00:35:56,690 --> 00:35:59,489
And so it's not a hallway fight. It's

1005
00:35:59,489 --> 00:36:02,210
not the prison fight in season three. But

1006
00:36:02,210 --> 00:36:03,349
what it is

1007
00:36:04,050 --> 00:36:05,190
is an artistic

1008
00:36:06,625 --> 00:36:07,125
violent

1009
00:36:07,905 --> 00:36:08,405
representation

1010
00:36:09,425 --> 00:36:12,325
of what is going on in these men's

1011
00:36:13,825 --> 00:36:14,325
spirit,

1012
00:36:14,785 --> 00:36:15,285
soul,

1013
00:36:15,744 --> 00:36:16,244
mind.

1014
00:36:16,785 --> 00:36:19,425
This is what is happening here as these

1015
00:36:19,425 --> 00:36:21,204
two men go out and

1016
00:36:22,089 --> 00:36:22,589
become

1017
00:36:23,210 --> 00:36:25,949
closer to who they were before.

1018
00:36:26,889 --> 00:36:27,710
And so,

1019
00:36:28,569 --> 00:36:29,069
thematically,

1020
00:36:29,530 --> 00:36:32,109
I love what's happening here in this episode.

1021
00:36:32,250 --> 00:36:32,750
Now

1022
00:36:33,849 --> 00:36:34,909
Muse is defeated,

1023
00:36:35,364 --> 00:36:37,925
but Muse is not dead. Okay? So what

1024
00:36:38,085 --> 00:36:39,625
what's gonna happen to Muse?

1025
00:36:39,925 --> 00:36:43,065
We don't know. I have a feeling it's

1026
00:36:43,364 --> 00:36:45,364
he's gonna go. He's gonna be on

1027
00:36:46,724 --> 00:36:47,864
be a lot more careful,

1028
00:36:48,599 --> 00:36:50,680
but he's also gonna continue doing really bad

1029
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:51,180
stuff.

1030
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:53,880
Daredal is gonna have to stop him, but

1031
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:54,619
in the

1032
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,480
middle of trying to stop him, you're gonna

1033
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,660
have the goon squad

1034
00:37:00,039 --> 00:37:02,519
coming out and they are also going to

1035
00:37:02,519 --> 00:37:04,220
cause trouble for Matt Murdock.

1036
00:37:05,105 --> 00:37:07,505
And so the whole situation with Muse is

1037
00:37:07,505 --> 00:37:08,724
probably going to bring

1038
00:37:09,344 --> 00:37:09,844
the

1039
00:37:12,065 --> 00:37:13,364
the conflict with

1040
00:37:14,625 --> 00:37:15,125
Fisk's

1041
00:37:16,464 --> 00:37:17,364
cop crew.

1042
00:37:18,300 --> 00:37:20,160
That's gonna bring the that conflict.

1043
00:37:20,539 --> 00:37:22,059
If not to a head, it's going to

1044
00:37:22,059 --> 00:37:22,559
advance

1045
00:37:23,019 --> 00:37:25,739
that conflict because Matt Murdock is wearing a

1046
00:37:25,739 --> 00:37:26,239
mask.

1047
00:37:26,539 --> 00:37:28,780
And in episode one, I think it was,

1048
00:37:28,780 --> 00:37:30,239
it might have been episode two,

1049
00:37:30,644 --> 00:37:33,125
when Matt and Fisk had their sit down

1050
00:37:33,125 --> 00:37:35,925
together in the diner, Fisk said, don't do

1051
00:37:35,925 --> 00:37:38,565
it. Don't put on that mask. Don't you

1052
00:37:38,565 --> 00:37:39,304
do it.

1053
00:37:40,965 --> 00:37:43,465
And and Matt said, gonna do it

1054
00:37:44,809 --> 00:37:45,869
in this episode.

1055
00:37:46,250 --> 00:37:46,750
So

1056
00:37:47,289 --> 00:37:49,449
Daredevil is back. What does that mean for

1057
00:37:49,449 --> 00:37:51,550
the next couple of episodes? I don't

1058
00:37:51,929 --> 00:37:54,570
know exactly, but I've kinda talked about where

1059
00:37:54,570 --> 00:37:57,144
I think we're headed. I still do wonder

1060
00:37:57,144 --> 00:37:58,844
if Angel is or Angela

1061
00:37:59,864 --> 00:38:01,085
is going to put the

1062
00:38:01,385 --> 00:38:01,885
the,

1063
00:38:03,304 --> 00:38:03,804
the

1064
00:38:05,944 --> 00:38:06,605
not totems.

1065
00:38:07,704 --> 00:38:08,204
The

1066
00:38:09,219 --> 00:38:11,219
white tiger necklace on. I I I do

1067
00:38:11,219 --> 00:38:13,320
wonder that. We'll have to wait and see.

1068
00:38:14,260 --> 00:38:15,320
Okay. So

1069
00:38:15,780 --> 00:38:18,260
this is what Samantha said next. This is

1070
00:38:18,260 --> 00:38:19,860
her third part and this is gonna launch

1071
00:38:19,860 --> 00:38:22,164
my third part of the conversation here. She

1072
00:38:22,164 --> 00:38:24,644
says, my biggest question is why this was

1073
00:38:24,644 --> 00:38:26,964
a two parter release when these were definitely

1074
00:38:26,964 --> 00:38:27,784
separate episodes.

1075
00:38:28,244 --> 00:38:31,045
Disney is not beholden to a timed schedule

1076
00:38:31,045 --> 00:38:33,045
the way old television channels work. They could

1077
00:38:33,045 --> 00:38:35,280
have released the finale a week later or

1078
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,119
lump two other episodes that had a similar

1079
00:38:37,119 --> 00:38:39,119
tone together as a two parter. I'm confused

1080
00:38:39,119 --> 00:38:41,760
about that decision but ultimately it hurts nothing.

1081
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,400
I agree. So these two episodes were released

1082
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:45,380
on the same

1083
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:46,340
night.

1084
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:47,219
And

1085
00:38:47,835 --> 00:38:50,315
I agree at first I was confused about

1086
00:38:50,315 --> 00:38:51,914
why they did this. But I am no

1087
00:38:51,914 --> 00:38:54,255
longer confused because I was sitting down

1088
00:38:54,554 --> 00:38:55,855
to watch the episodes

1089
00:38:56,795 --> 00:38:58,094
a second time and

1090
00:38:59,914 --> 00:39:01,675
when I watched the episodes a second time

1091
00:39:01,675 --> 00:39:03,295
it hit me. These two episodes

1092
00:39:03,650 --> 00:39:05,110
for Matt Murdock anyway,

1093
00:39:05,489 --> 00:39:06,550
are the same

1094
00:39:09,010 --> 00:39:10,150
except for degree.

1095
00:39:11,010 --> 00:39:12,849
These two episodes are about and I don't

1096
00:39:12,849 --> 00:39:14,210
know if this is what Disney plus was

1097
00:39:14,210 --> 00:39:16,230
thinking when they did these two episodes together.

1098
00:39:16,414 --> 00:39:19,474
But these two episodes are about Matt Murdock

1099
00:39:19,695 --> 00:39:21,474
putting the mask back on.

1100
00:39:22,414 --> 00:39:25,454
And it's degree. It's it's these steps, you

1101
00:39:25,454 --> 00:39:27,534
know. And so you have step one where

1102
00:39:27,534 --> 00:39:28,914
he does the bank robbery

1103
00:39:29,454 --> 00:39:31,554
and step two where he goes after Muse.

1104
00:39:32,949 --> 00:39:33,449
And

1105
00:39:34,150 --> 00:39:35,930
in step one, he

1106
00:39:36,309 --> 00:39:38,309
doesn't go into it with a mask but

1107
00:39:38,309 --> 00:39:40,309
he goes he comes out of it with

1108
00:39:40,309 --> 00:39:42,710
the mask. And in step two here in

1109
00:39:42,710 --> 00:39:43,690
episode six,

1110
00:39:43,989 --> 00:39:46,150
he puts on the whole thing. The whole

1111
00:39:46,150 --> 00:39:48,535
outfit. The whole kit and caboodle. He puts

1112
00:39:48,535 --> 00:39:51,175
it all on. He's wearing the mask. He's

1113
00:39:51,175 --> 00:39:51,675
Daredevil.

1114
00:39:52,454 --> 00:39:53,195
And so

1115
00:39:53,815 --> 00:39:54,555
to me,

1116
00:39:55,175 --> 00:39:57,815
while they are both episodic and they are

1117
00:39:57,894 --> 00:39:59,835
it's not a two parter by any stretch,

1118
00:40:00,069 --> 00:40:00,809
but thematically

1119
00:40:01,349 --> 00:40:04,069
it does fit together. Now I don't know

1120
00:40:04,069 --> 00:40:06,010
if this has anything to do with,

1121
00:40:07,349 --> 00:40:08,329
release of thunderbolts

1122
00:40:08,630 --> 00:40:10,309
or if this has anything to do with

1123
00:40:10,309 --> 00:40:11,369
any kind of,

1124
00:40:12,309 --> 00:40:14,735
timing or release or anything like that. I

1125
00:40:14,735 --> 00:40:15,394
have no

1126
00:40:16,335 --> 00:40:17,074
idea. But

1127
00:40:18,015 --> 00:40:19,394
what I do know is

1128
00:40:20,255 --> 00:40:22,735
they've released these two episodes together for some

1129
00:40:22,735 --> 00:40:23,235
reason,

1130
00:40:23,775 --> 00:40:24,275
and

1131
00:40:24,655 --> 00:40:26,655
it fit nicely with our schedule because we're

1132
00:40:26,655 --> 00:40:28,414
we're talking about two episodes at a time

1133
00:40:28,414 --> 00:40:30,910
now. So that's how we've chosen to do

1134
00:40:30,910 --> 00:40:32,910
it, and that's how we're going to do

1135
00:40:32,910 --> 00:40:35,090
it. So worked out great.

1136
00:40:36,190 --> 00:40:39,630
Alright. Well, that is my conversation, honestly. I

1137
00:40:39,630 --> 00:40:42,610
am done talking about this episodes, and

1138
00:40:43,275 --> 00:40:45,594
I appreciate you joining me for this. I

1139
00:40:45,594 --> 00:40:47,355
would really love to hear from you. If

1140
00:40:47,355 --> 00:40:49,434
you have any thoughts about things, definitely check

1141
00:40:49,434 --> 00:40:50,954
us out on Facebook where you can drop

1142
00:40:50,954 --> 00:40:52,554
us a message there. You can check us

1143
00:40:52,554 --> 00:40:54,714
out on Patreon, patreon.com/welcome

1144
00:40:54,714 --> 00:40:56,074
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1145
00:40:56,074 --> 00:40:58,589
message there or you can send an email

1146
00:40:58,589 --> 00:41:01,969
to studioavory@gmail.com

1147
00:41:02,029 --> 00:41:04,269
and drop us a message there. I'd love

1148
00:41:04,269 --> 00:41:06,289
to hear from you. What do you think

1149
00:41:06,429 --> 00:41:09,250
about Daredevil Born Again? Are you

1150
00:41:09,630 --> 00:41:12,529
enjoying it? Is this a worthy successor?

1151
00:41:13,085 --> 00:41:15,664
Does it feel like this is a continuation

1152
00:41:16,125 --> 00:41:18,065
of the first three seasons of Daredevil

1153
00:41:18,764 --> 00:41:19,264
plus

1154
00:41:19,644 --> 00:41:20,144
Defenders?

1155
00:41:20,444 --> 00:41:21,804
Do you feel like this is of a

1156
00:41:21,804 --> 00:41:24,364
hole with that? I do. I'm I'm feeling

1157
00:41:24,364 --> 00:41:24,864
it.

1158
00:41:26,139 --> 00:41:28,539
Of course, it really helps with Fisk and

1159
00:41:28,539 --> 00:41:30,940
Matt Murdock using the same actors. Okay. So

1160
00:41:30,940 --> 00:41:32,159
there's that. But

1161
00:41:32,699 --> 00:41:34,460
what do you think? Are you enjoying it

1162
00:41:34,460 --> 00:41:35,119
so far?

1163
00:41:35,659 --> 00:41:38,239
Check one. Yes or no. And and

1164
00:41:40,005 --> 00:41:41,385
yeah. So anyway,

1165
00:41:42,005 --> 00:41:43,364
I do feel bad for those of you

1166
00:41:43,364 --> 00:41:44,724
who are just joining us that you didn't

1167
00:41:44,724 --> 00:41:45,625
get to hear

1168
00:41:46,085 --> 00:41:48,565
Samantha, didn't get to hear Stewart, didn't get

1169
00:41:48,565 --> 00:41:49,545
to meet them.

1170
00:41:50,324 --> 00:41:51,784
I do have something.

1171
00:41:53,460 --> 00:41:54,359
Let me see

1172
00:41:55,219 --> 00:41:56,119
if I can

1173
00:41:57,300 --> 00:41:59,719
there we go. This is her right here.

1174
00:42:01,699 --> 00:42:04,519
Custom designed funko in her honor.

1175
00:42:05,954 --> 00:42:07,255
Oh, yeah. Well,

1176
00:42:07,555 --> 00:42:09,095
you you can't see.

1177
00:42:10,275 --> 00:42:10,775
Well,

1178
00:42:12,595 --> 00:42:13,494
it's her.

1179
00:42:28,369 --> 00:42:30,034
Thanks once more for listening. You

1180
00:42:41,375 --> 00:42:43,534
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1183
00:42:47,739 --> 00:42:49,839
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00:42:51,019 --> 00:42:52,699
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1194
00:43:30,174 --> 00:43:32,255
Okay. Well, it's time for a post credit.

1195
00:43:32,255 --> 00:43:34,255
And really, the big thing for the post

1196
00:43:34,255 --> 00:43:36,434
credit right now is just the Avengers

1197
00:43:37,135 --> 00:43:37,635
doomsday,

1198
00:43:39,775 --> 00:43:42,994
announcement that they made. There is some

1199
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:45,460
craziness

1200
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,420
going on with that, and

1201
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,679
I'm looking for the conversation that we had

1202
00:43:51,679 --> 00:43:52,659
on our thread

1203
00:43:53,359 --> 00:43:53,859
about

1204
00:43:55,039 --> 00:43:56,960
about what was going on with that. It

1205
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:58,025
was crazy.

1206
00:43:58,484 --> 00:44:00,324
When when that was happening, I just kind

1207
00:44:00,324 --> 00:44:02,264
of accidentally came across,

1208
00:44:03,284 --> 00:44:04,184
what was happening.

1209
00:44:05,125 --> 00:44:06,885
I saw an article and the article said

1210
00:44:06,885 --> 00:44:08,484
they're doing this announcement. I'm like, oh, I'll

1211
00:44:08,484 --> 00:44:10,005
check and see what what this announcement is

1212
00:44:10,005 --> 00:44:11,284
like. And I'm expecting to see,

1213
00:44:12,050 --> 00:44:14,210
Kev dog, Kevin Feige. I'm expecting to see

1214
00:44:14,210 --> 00:44:17,590
him reading off some sort of, well, announcement.

1215
00:44:18,050 --> 00:44:18,869
And instead

1216
00:44:20,289 --> 00:44:21,829
what we got was,

1217
00:44:23,010 --> 00:44:26,050
this five, six, seven hour video. I'm not

1218
00:44:26,050 --> 00:44:27,670
sure how long it actually was.

1219
00:44:28,155 --> 00:44:30,394
And every ten minutes, every fifteen minutes or

1220
00:44:30,394 --> 00:44:33,195
so, they move from chair to chair showing

1221
00:44:33,195 --> 00:44:35,755
the people who are going to be on

1222
00:44:35,755 --> 00:44:38,474
there. And so since Stuart and Samantha can't

1223
00:44:38,474 --> 00:44:39,215
be here,

1224
00:44:40,315 --> 00:44:41,934
I'm gonna read the conversation

1225
00:44:42,809 --> 00:44:43,789
that we had

1226
00:44:44,410 --> 00:44:46,570
and and just kinda it's gonna be a

1227
00:44:46,570 --> 00:44:48,030
dramatic dramatic presentation

1228
00:44:48,570 --> 00:44:49,949
of what was going on.

1229
00:44:50,250 --> 00:44:52,269
And so let's see here.

1230
00:44:56,454 --> 00:44:58,054
Wow. This is okay. This is a long

1231
00:44:58,054 --> 00:44:58,554
one.

1232
00:44:58,934 --> 00:45:00,074
So here we go.

1233
00:45:02,135 --> 00:45:02,954
This is

1234
00:45:04,054 --> 00:45:08,054
okay. So March 26 at 11:59AM.

1235
00:45:08,054 --> 00:45:10,530
Here's what I did. I'm at work and

1236
00:45:10,530 --> 00:45:12,849
so I just I have a couple different

1237
00:45:12,849 --> 00:45:15,170
monitors on my desk at work and one

1238
00:45:15,170 --> 00:45:17,250
of them I usually have as an extra

1239
00:45:17,250 --> 00:45:19,489
screen. I put Spotify on that screen but

1240
00:45:19,489 --> 00:45:20,710
I also will sometimes

1241
00:45:21,329 --> 00:45:24,150
do a full screen with YouTube live cameras.

1242
00:45:24,675 --> 00:45:27,074
And so there is a live cam in

1243
00:45:27,074 --> 00:45:29,555
the Serengeti Desert that I watch. We ostriches

1244
00:45:29,555 --> 00:45:32,295
come to this watering hole, zebras come, warthogs

1245
00:45:32,434 --> 00:45:35,394
come. It's really hyenas come. It's really fascinating.

1246
00:45:35,394 --> 00:45:36,295
It's really interesting.

1247
00:45:36,989 --> 00:45:38,909
I also do the ISS station because they

1248
00:45:38,909 --> 00:45:40,190
have a live feed where you can kind

1249
00:45:40,190 --> 00:45:42,510
of see what their camera is looking down

1250
00:45:42,510 --> 00:45:44,030
on and you can look down on the

1251
00:45:44,030 --> 00:45:46,989
earth in in real time. And it's crazy

1252
00:45:46,989 --> 00:45:48,690
because there's actually, like,

1253
00:45:49,094 --> 00:45:50,775
if it's passing over some place with a

1254
00:45:50,775 --> 00:45:53,014
storm, you could see flashes of lightning in

1255
00:45:53,014 --> 00:45:53,675
the clouds.

1256
00:45:54,375 --> 00:45:56,474
It is wild. It is really interesting.

1257
00:45:57,414 --> 00:45:59,655
And there's some aquariums, that I'll also watch.

1258
00:45:59,655 --> 00:46:01,414
Whenever I have the aquarium up, especially one

1259
00:46:01,414 --> 00:46:02,614
with a shark, I feel like I'm a

1260
00:46:02,614 --> 00:46:03,355
Bond villain

1261
00:46:03,890 --> 00:46:06,130
and I'm in my lair with the sharks

1262
00:46:06,130 --> 00:46:07,510
swimming around behind me.

1263
00:46:07,890 --> 00:46:09,489
What I did was I put this announcement

1264
00:46:09,489 --> 00:46:09,989
up

1265
00:46:10,610 --> 00:46:12,690
without sound. Now with sound there was some

1266
00:46:12,690 --> 00:46:14,369
dramatic music playing but I put up without

1267
00:46:14,369 --> 00:46:14,869
sound.

1268
00:46:15,170 --> 00:46:16,949
And so I sent the message that said,

1269
00:46:17,090 --> 00:46:18,949
Cast of Doomsday being announced.

1270
00:46:19,605 --> 00:46:21,605
Chris Hemsworth as Thor this is from an

1271
00:46:21,605 --> 00:46:24,164
article. Chris Hemsworth as Thor, Vanessa Kirby as

1272
00:46:24,164 --> 00:46:27,065
Sue Storm, Anthony Mackie as Captain America, Sebastian

1273
00:46:27,125 --> 00:46:28,344
Stamm as Bucky Barnes,

1274
00:46:28,644 --> 00:46:30,585
Letitia Wright as Shuri slash

1275
00:46:30,885 --> 00:46:33,545
Black Panther. Then my next message was

1276
00:46:34,199 --> 00:46:35,420
and I sent the link

1277
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:37,260
right when they were announcing,

1278
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:39,639
I can't remember who they were, they are

1279
00:46:39,639 --> 00:46:41,719
announcing with the video with this video. In

1280
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:43,400
the video, they are panning down a row

1281
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,079
of chairs and lingering on each chair for

1282
00:46:45,079 --> 00:46:46,599
ten minutes before moving on to the next

1283
00:46:46,599 --> 00:46:47,099
one.

1284
00:46:48,675 --> 00:46:51,474
So Stewart was replying to the list that

1285
00:46:51,474 --> 00:46:52,914
I sent and he said, so file this

1286
00:46:52,914 --> 00:46:55,094
under duh. And I said, so far, yeah.

1287
00:46:55,155 --> 00:46:56,855
Click now to see the next chair.

1288
00:46:57,474 --> 00:46:58,135
It is

1289
00:46:58,715 --> 00:46:59,215
it

1290
00:46:59,795 --> 00:47:01,635
is funny. Oh, that's because that was Paul

1291
00:47:01,635 --> 00:47:03,940
Rudd's tiny chair. And Stewart says, okay, that's

1292
00:47:03,940 --> 00:47:06,440
funny. And then Samantha says, I see why

1293
00:47:06,739 --> 00:47:10,099
dramatic, dramatic, really reading. Stewart says, okay, that's

1294
00:47:10,099 --> 00:47:10,599
funny.

1295
00:47:10,980 --> 00:47:13,619
And Samantha says, I see Wyatt Russell's name.

1296
00:47:13,619 --> 00:47:15,059
And then I said, rewind a bit to

1297
00:47:15,059 --> 00:47:17,079
the previous chair. Paul Rudd,

1298
00:47:18,315 --> 00:47:20,635
why is this announcement so tediously slow? And

1299
00:47:20,635 --> 00:47:22,255
then I say creating buzz.

1300
00:47:22,715 --> 00:47:24,875
Stewart says, is this the first TV to

1301
00:47:24,875 --> 00:47:26,954
film announcement? I think that was because of

1302
00:47:26,954 --> 00:47:28,094
Wyatt Russell.

1303
00:47:28,554 --> 00:47:29,054
And

1304
00:47:30,699 --> 00:47:31,739
and then we got into a little bit

1305
00:47:31,739 --> 00:47:33,260
of argument about who was the first person

1306
00:47:33,260 --> 00:47:34,719
to go move from TV

1307
00:47:35,260 --> 00:47:36,079
to film

1308
00:47:36,460 --> 00:47:37,840
in the in the MCU.

1309
00:47:39,900 --> 00:47:41,760
And let's see. So

1310
00:47:43,500 --> 00:47:45,440
moving ahead a little bit.

1311
00:47:49,454 --> 00:47:50,195
I say,

1312
00:47:51,135 --> 00:47:53,795
so Danny Ramirez jumped from TV to movies,

1313
00:47:54,494 --> 00:47:54,994
for

1314
00:47:55,375 --> 00:47:56,675
Falcon and Winter Soldier

1315
00:47:57,295 --> 00:47:59,614
to brace new world. And then Samantha says

1316
00:47:59,614 --> 00:48:01,619
brace new world. That would be an interesting

1317
00:48:01,619 --> 00:48:03,780
movie title. I kid. I kid. And I

1318
00:48:03,780 --> 00:48:05,380
said, brace is the misspelling you focus on

1319
00:48:05,380 --> 00:48:07,159
because I really botched up soldier.

1320
00:48:08,179 --> 00:48:09,780
Stewart says, that's right. Thanks for the reminder.

1321
00:48:09,780 --> 00:48:11,299
It's still interesting to see TV to film.

1322
00:48:11,299 --> 00:48:13,960
There's hope for Fitzsimmons. Yes. Samantha says, yes.

1323
00:48:14,155 --> 00:48:16,235
And then in her audio haughty voice, I

1324
00:48:16,235 --> 00:48:17,835
have never misspelled a word in my life.

1325
00:48:17,835 --> 00:48:19,434
This is how our you know, you have

1326
00:48:19,434 --> 00:48:20,735
conversations like this. Right?

1327
00:48:21,115 --> 00:48:22,715
And then Stewart says no one cares about

1328
00:48:22,715 --> 00:48:25,275
Fitzsimmons anymore. Okay. So next we had Sima

1329
00:48:25,275 --> 00:48:27,695
Liu and then two Fantastic Four

1330
00:48:28,075 --> 00:48:30,349
actors have been announced so far. Stewart says

1331
00:48:30,349 --> 00:48:32,210
awesome. Getting excited for that. I think RDJ

1332
00:48:32,269 --> 00:48:33,730
as doom is just a diversion.

1333
00:48:34,190 --> 00:48:36,510
And then we have Yvonne Moss Bachrock, the

1334
00:48:36,510 --> 00:48:37,010
thing.

1335
00:48:37,550 --> 00:48:39,150
And I'm like, I need a 10 times

1336
00:48:39,150 --> 00:48:40,929
speed version, which they did do.

1337
00:48:41,550 --> 00:48:43,150
Samantha says I'm scrubbing back every five minutes

1338
00:48:43,150 --> 00:48:44,505
to make sure I didn't miss a name.

1339
00:48:44,585 --> 00:48:45,244
And then

1340
00:48:45,545 --> 00:48:46,045
Stewart

1341
00:48:46,344 --> 00:48:48,984
TV to film. Oh, micro. Because the thing,

1342
00:48:48,984 --> 00:48:50,505
Ben Grimm, is actually being played by the

1343
00:48:50,505 --> 00:48:52,605
same guy who played micro in in Punisher.

1344
00:48:54,184 --> 00:48:56,585
Samantha says I'm ecstatic that Sima Leo is

1345
00:48:56,585 --> 00:48:57,085
returning

1346
00:48:57,860 --> 00:48:59,300
following the success of Shang Chi. I thought

1347
00:48:59,300 --> 00:49:00,500
he would have gotten a little bit more

1348
00:49:00,500 --> 00:49:02,099
attention for being a part of the Barbie

1349
00:49:02,099 --> 00:49:04,199
movie since he played Ryan Reynolds' rival.

1350
00:49:05,059 --> 00:49:06,980
And then talk she's talking about Micro. She

1351
00:49:06,980 --> 00:49:08,579
says, now the Punisher series has seemed to

1352
00:49:08,579 --> 00:49:10,760
have folded into this timeline and curious to

1353
00:49:10,820 --> 00:49:12,920
how the MCU is going to handle even

1354
00:49:13,244 --> 00:49:15,085
double casting. Maybe they could say that Micro

1355
00:49:15,085 --> 00:49:17,164
and Ben Grimm are somehow related. Of course,

1356
00:49:17,164 --> 00:49:18,924
I can't imagine Micro making another appearance in

1357
00:49:18,924 --> 00:49:19,505
the MCU.

1358
00:49:19,964 --> 00:49:22,204
Then Florence Pugh's name is now up. I

1359
00:49:22,204 --> 00:49:23,585
don't know how to stay here name.

1360
00:49:24,284 --> 00:49:26,844
And then Kelsey Grammer. And then Stewart says

1361
00:49:26,844 --> 00:49:28,464
toss salad and scrambled eggs.

1362
00:49:29,090 --> 00:49:31,170
Bob is back. I think he's referring to,

1363
00:49:31,570 --> 00:49:34,390
Bob from Sideshow Bob from the Simpsons.

1364
00:49:37,730 --> 00:49:40,610
Lewis Pullman. Samantha says Lewis Pullman. Who's that?

1365
00:49:40,610 --> 00:49:42,309
Oh, he's playing Sentry and Thunderbolts.

1366
00:49:42,824 --> 00:49:43,565
Danny Ramirez,

1367
00:49:43,945 --> 00:49:46,105
not terribly surprised because Captain America has been

1368
00:49:46,105 --> 00:49:46,605
announced.

1369
00:49:47,625 --> 00:49:49,885
Then Stewart says wait wasn't Charlie Cox

1370
00:49:51,065 --> 00:49:53,005
TV to movie for Spider Manpalooza?

1371
00:49:54,184 --> 00:49:56,099
Which we're back to that.

1372
00:49:56,500 --> 00:49:58,680
All four fantastic four announced now.

1373
00:49:59,460 --> 00:50:02,019
Joseph Quinn was announced. Davy Harbor Harbor was

1374
00:50:02,019 --> 00:50:04,420
announced. And then Samantha says, yep. And I

1375
00:50:04,420 --> 00:50:06,019
said, honestly, mister t would not be a

1376
00:50:06,019 --> 00:50:07,380
surprise to me. They've got everyone in the

1377
00:50:07,380 --> 00:50:07,880
world.

1378
00:50:08,385 --> 00:50:10,864
Stewart would be no surprise. Samantha says mister

1379
00:50:10,864 --> 00:50:12,405
t would be a fun surprise.

1380
00:50:13,105 --> 00:50:14,625
And then I said and this is where

1381
00:50:14,625 --> 00:50:15,284
we're getting

1382
00:50:15,585 --> 00:50:17,824
silly but it's post credit. Right? Lou Costello

1383
00:50:17,824 --> 00:50:19,265
would be no surprise. King Henry the eighth

1384
00:50:19,265 --> 00:50:21,025
would be no surprise. Bobo the idiot talking

1385
00:50:21,025 --> 00:50:22,324
monkey would be no surprise.

1386
00:50:22,849 --> 00:50:24,610
And then Samantha says, I haven't seen Charlie

1387
00:50:24,610 --> 00:50:26,849
Cox announced yet. Did I miss that? No.

1388
00:50:26,849 --> 00:50:29,349
I say no announcement of him yet. Winston

1389
00:50:29,409 --> 00:50:29,909
Duke,

1390
00:50:30,289 --> 00:50:31,110
John Kamen,

1391
00:50:32,130 --> 00:50:32,949
Tom Hiddleston,

1392
00:50:35,017 --> 00:50:37,505
Patrick Stewart. That's a surprise. And Stewart says,

1393
00:50:37,505 --> 00:50:39,505
why is Picard in an MCU movie? And

1394
00:50:39,505 --> 00:50:42,404
then I said, and Gandalf, Ian McKellen.

1395
00:50:42,944 --> 00:50:44,864
So we have Gandalf, Picard, and Frasier. What

1396
00:50:44,864 --> 00:50:46,545
a crazy movie this is. Things are getting

1397
00:50:46,545 --> 00:50:49,684
wonky because that's when they announced Alan Cumming.

1398
00:50:50,289 --> 00:50:50,789
Alright.

1399
00:50:51,489 --> 00:50:52,230
Alan Cumming.

1400
00:50:53,010 --> 00:50:54,949
And then they announced Rebecca Romijn,

1401
00:50:55,730 --> 00:50:57,029
another Star Trek actor.

1402
00:50:58,449 --> 00:50:59,190
And then,

1403
00:51:00,130 --> 00:51:02,690
James Marsden. That was the one that really

1404
00:51:02,690 --> 00:51:03,670
surprised me,

1405
00:51:04,289 --> 00:51:05,190
James Marsden.

1406
00:51:05,744 --> 00:51:07,424
Samantha says, if they say Hugh Jackman, I'm

1407
00:51:07,424 --> 00:51:08,644
gonna flip my lid.

1408
00:51:09,424 --> 00:51:10,164
And then,

1409
00:51:10,864 --> 00:51:12,784
I said, how can they not? And Ryan

1410
00:51:12,784 --> 00:51:13,284
Reynolds

1411
00:51:13,904 --> 00:51:15,904
and mister Bean, and Samantha says, and Mickey

1412
00:51:15,904 --> 00:51:17,984
Mouse. And I say, and the guy that

1413
00:51:17,984 --> 00:51:19,045
played second Hobbit.

1414
00:51:19,460 --> 00:51:21,219
And then Samantha says, Deadpool would make sense.

1415
00:51:21,219 --> 00:51:23,400
So she's bringing us back bringing us back.

1416
00:51:23,699 --> 00:51:25,460
And I said, this video has almost run

1417
00:51:25,460 --> 00:51:26,199
five hours

1418
00:51:27,940 --> 00:51:30,179
now. So that's what we're crazy about this

1419
00:51:30,179 --> 00:51:32,099
five hours. Then Stewart says, okay, this is

1420
00:51:32,099 --> 00:51:32,599
bizarre.

1421
00:51:37,175 --> 00:51:37,675
And,

1422
00:51:38,055 --> 00:51:40,135
oh, and then there was also I was

1423
00:51:40,135 --> 00:51:41,735
also saying I really wanted to watch Twin

1424
00:51:41,735 --> 00:51:43,434
Peaks for some reason. I don't know why.

1425
00:51:43,735 --> 00:51:45,735
Channing Tatum. So basically X men, all of

1426
00:51:45,735 --> 00:51:47,914
them. And Smith says, really? No. That's surprising.

1427
00:51:48,140 --> 00:51:49,660
And I said, including people from the phone

1428
00:51:49,660 --> 00:51:50,940
book who happen to have an x in

1429
00:51:50,940 --> 00:51:53,180
their name. And Samantha says, here's the real

1430
00:51:53,180 --> 00:51:55,840
question. Will Channing use the same accent coach?

1431
00:51:57,500 --> 00:51:59,180
Then I said, thing is, these people are

1432
00:51:59,180 --> 00:52:00,940
most likely from other universes than the ones

1433
00:52:00,940 --> 00:52:02,780
who showed up in Deadpool. Most likely from

1434
00:52:02,780 --> 00:52:04,005
the one at the end of the Marvels.

1435
00:52:04,244 --> 00:52:05,944
Marvels. So maybe yes.

1436
00:52:07,605 --> 00:52:08,105
To

1437
00:52:10,324 --> 00:52:11,605
I don't know what I was saying maybe

1438
00:52:11,605 --> 00:52:13,364
yes to, but I said maybe no to

1439
00:52:13,364 --> 00:52:14,505
the Channing Tatum

1440
00:52:15,204 --> 00:52:16,025
accent coach.

1441
00:52:17,739 --> 00:52:19,340
And then Samantha says Deadpool can handle a

1442
00:52:19,340 --> 00:52:21,340
multiverse scenario he already has and I say

1443
00:52:21,340 --> 00:52:23,500
can we? And Samantha says I can. I

1444
00:52:23,500 --> 00:52:25,099
don't know about you though. I don't know

1445
00:52:25,099 --> 00:52:26,219
if you guys remember this because it was

1446
00:52:26,219 --> 00:52:27,739
twenty twenty five years ago when the Patrick

1447
00:52:27,739 --> 00:52:29,660
Stewart era x men movies were first in

1448
00:52:29,660 --> 00:52:31,760
the works. People wanted Josh Holloway

1449
00:52:32,135 --> 00:52:34,855
Sawyer from Lost, to play Gambit. And I

1450
00:52:34,855 --> 00:52:37,014
said, I do remember. And I expected Stewart

1451
00:52:37,014 --> 00:52:38,954
to say, Pepperidge Farm remembers,

1452
00:52:39,255 --> 00:52:40,155
but he didn't.

1453
00:52:40,614 --> 00:52:42,214
And Samantha says, I was beginning to wonder

1454
00:52:42,214 --> 00:52:43,275
if he would be announced.

1455
00:52:43,574 --> 00:52:45,094
And I was wondering when they would announce

1456
00:52:45,094 --> 00:52:47,414
Pedro Pascal. And I said, now. Now is

1457
00:52:47,414 --> 00:52:49,719
when? And then Samantha wonders, are they gonna

1458
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:51,559
announce Dan Stevens? It would seem to be

1459
00:52:51,559 --> 00:52:53,819
possible at this point, which that's from Legion

1460
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:55,559
and actually is a lot more on target

1461
00:52:55,559 --> 00:52:57,000
than some of the other things we've talked

1462
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:57,500
about.

1463
00:52:58,759 --> 00:52:59,079
And,

1464
00:53:01,934 --> 00:53:03,535
and then okay, so this is again being

1465
00:53:03,535 --> 00:53:05,555
silly. They just announced Grogu,

1466
00:53:06,095 --> 00:53:08,655
Betty Davis, John the Baptist, my mom and

1467
00:53:08,655 --> 00:53:10,815
Ringo Starr. And then at that point they

1468
00:53:10,815 --> 00:53:13,555
did the final chair which was Robert Downey

1469
00:53:13,695 --> 00:53:14,195
Jr,

1470
00:53:14,739 --> 00:53:16,539
who was there in person and he takes

1471
00:53:16,539 --> 00:53:18,840
a look at the camera and shushes us.

1472
00:53:20,099 --> 00:53:22,420
Samantha asked how many names is that? And

1473
00:53:22,420 --> 00:53:24,420
then she says don't bother counting some reporter

1474
00:53:24,420 --> 00:53:26,420
will do it later. And I said I'm

1475
00:53:26,420 --> 00:53:28,360
not. I lost count at John the Baptist.

1476
00:53:29,835 --> 00:53:30,335
And

1477
00:53:30,715 --> 00:53:32,235
then they showed a lineup of all the

1478
00:53:32,235 --> 00:53:34,815
chairs and they replaced Paul Rudd's chair.

1479
00:53:35,195 --> 00:53:35,695
So

1480
00:53:36,315 --> 00:53:38,494
that is the big news.

1481
00:53:41,250 --> 00:53:43,329
And, for those of you who are just

1482
00:53:43,329 --> 00:53:45,329
joining us for this podcast and you're wondering,

1483
00:53:45,329 --> 00:53:46,929
oh, I wonder what the post credits are

1484
00:53:46,929 --> 00:53:49,010
gonna be like. This. This is what the

1485
00:53:49,010 --> 00:53:50,150
post credits are like

1486
00:53:50,530 --> 00:53:53,010
just with a little more banter back and

1487
00:53:53,010 --> 00:53:54,769
forth. I tried you know, this would have

1488
00:53:54,769 --> 00:53:56,525
been the banter we would have had. I'm

1489
00:53:56,525 --> 00:53:57,805
sure I would have made some sort of

1490
00:53:57,805 --> 00:54:00,445
John the Baptist joke with this casting announcement.

1491
00:54:00,445 --> 00:54:03,405
But anyway, that is that. So I will

1492
00:54:03,405 --> 00:54:04,525
talk with you all later. Thank you so

1493
00:54:04,525 --> 00:54:06,525
much for spending time with me here. And

1494
00:54:06,525 --> 00:54:07,664
until next time,

1495
00:54:08,525 --> 00:54:09,025
Godspeed.