WEBVTT 00:00:15.539 --> 00:00:16.557 And welcome to the Concealed Carry 00:00:16.557 --> 00:00:20.630 Podcast, part of the ConcealedCarry.com network, brought to you by HK. 00:00:21.460 --> 00:00:27.695 Today is Thursday, June 25th, 2026, as of this live recording. 00:00:28.223 --> 00:00:32.472 I am your host, Riley Bowman, joined by co-host Jacob Paulson. 00:00:32.739 --> 00:00:33.523 Howdy, howdy, howdy. 00:00:33.935 --> 00:00:38.447 Howdy, howdy. We are glad to be with you. Kind of missed you last week. 00:00:39.757 --> 00:00:43.310 A bunch of things going on and travel and, yeah. 00:00:43.589 --> 00:00:44.157 It was a busy week. 00:00:44.157 --> 00:00:49.987 It was a busy week. Uh, but, uh, uh, if you missed it, there's a episode that 00:00:49.987 --> 00:00:55.588 is, should be published today or tomorrow, uh, to make up for our missing of last week's episode. 00:00:55.918 --> 00:00:58.857 Uh, so look, look to catch that one. That'll be a good one. 00:00:58.857 --> 00:01:05.267 It's actually a replay of a past, uh, 10, 10 years ago, actually episode 10 00:01:05.267 --> 00:01:11.161 years ago, probably this week, actually, or close to it. Wowzers. Isn't that weird? 00:01:11.741 --> 00:01:16.517 Yeah, 10 years ago we did a special episode where we talked about the history 00:01:16.517 --> 00:01:23.117 leading up to the war for independence, particularly the gun control that was 00:01:23.117 --> 00:01:25.637 one of the, you know, wasn't the only thing that kicked off the war. 00:01:25.637 --> 00:01:29.057 It was a major spark. Yeah, definitely a spark. That's a good word for it, actually. 00:01:29.057 --> 00:01:32.347 Yeah, certainly it's what caused the initial shots to be fired. 00:01:32.347 --> 00:01:34.980 Yeah, Lexington and Concord, of course, what we're referring to. 00:01:35.183 --> 00:01:37.279 Things going on around Boston area. 00:01:37.534 --> 00:01:42.217 Yeah, kind of a big deal in our nation's history. And we kind of did a whole 00:01:42.217 --> 00:01:47.127 deep dive into the history surrounding that, particularly from a gun control 00:01:47.127 --> 00:01:50.741 perspective. And I thought, you know, I thought that was a pretty good episode. 00:01:51.309 --> 00:01:56.767 And with now being kind of the 10-year anniversary of that episode and it not 00:01:56.767 --> 00:02:01.497 being available in the podcast feed anymore. 00:02:01.497 --> 00:02:07.697 And being that this is the 250th birthday of our nation, it's time to maybe bring that back. 00:02:07.697 --> 00:02:11.244 Yeah, I have identified five 00:02:12.348 --> 00:02:17.622 books that I am rereading between now and the end of July of this year in celebration 00:02:17.622 --> 00:02:20.121 of the 250th anniversary. I've finished one of them already. 00:02:20.277 --> 00:02:21.456 I started this about a week ago. 00:02:22.176 --> 00:02:22.532 Wow. Good for you. 00:02:22.692 --> 00:02:27.012 And I'm in the second one now. So I just finished 1776 by David McCullough. 00:02:27.172 --> 00:02:28.491 Dude, that takes a while to get through. 00:02:28.642 --> 00:02:31.032 Yeah. I've read that book like three or four times. I used to read it every 00:02:31.032 --> 00:02:34.144 July 4th. Well, I shouldn't say used to. I did that for like three or four years in a row. Yeah. 00:02:34.609 --> 00:02:39.676 And now it's been many years since I read it. So I just finished that book maybe two days ago. 00:02:40.205 --> 00:02:44.892 So now I'm now I'm in the middle of Washington secret six, which is a really 00:02:44.892 --> 00:02:47.815 fun read, though It's the least like 00:02:49.056 --> 00:02:52.596 The authors are just, they're terrible at writing history. Like it's, 00:02:52.996 --> 00:02:54.822 there's too much creative license. 00:02:55.065 --> 00:02:57.356 But that said, the facts are all true. 00:02:58.056 --> 00:03:02.536 It's just, they put in some narratives and things that are fictional to add 00:03:02.536 --> 00:03:05.216 some drama to it. But anyway, fantastic read. 00:03:06.096 --> 00:03:09.596 I'm probably getting close. Yeah, I'm probably two thirds through that book. 00:03:09.596 --> 00:03:10.629 I started like three days ago. 00:03:11.244 --> 00:03:15.026 So anyway, I'm also going to read American Creation, Revolutionary Summer, 00:03:15.026 --> 00:03:17.287 and Washington's Crossing. 00:03:17.972 --> 00:03:19.696 So I'm getting through all those. 00:03:20.410 --> 00:03:23.536 I may need to take a peek at some of those myself. Yeah. Although, 00:03:23.536 --> 00:03:29.976 boy, you telling me that you re-listened to 1776, I really enjoyed that book 00:03:29.976 --> 00:03:35.266 immensely when I did the audiobook thing. Of course, that's pretty much how. 00:03:35.266 --> 00:03:36.536 Me too. I'm listening to all this. 00:03:37.276 --> 00:03:39.496 And I still think, I still call that reading books. 00:03:39.836 --> 00:03:41.516 Me too. I don't distinguish. 00:03:41.516 --> 00:03:46.224 But I did that a year or two ago and really enjoyed 1776. 00:03:47.476 --> 00:03:53.381 I'm currently trying to finish the David McCullough biography on John Adams. 00:03:53.909 --> 00:03:54.600 That's a thick book. 00:03:54.763 --> 00:03:55.416 Yeah, it is. 00:03:55.416 --> 00:03:58.196 I mean, 1776 is a small read in comparison. 00:03:59.216 --> 00:04:03.076 I've been working on this one for a while, and I kind of fell by the wayside for a bit. 00:04:04.707 --> 00:04:08.642 I've only read that once. That's been many years ago now. But I really enjoyed 00:04:09.084 --> 00:04:14.116 the HBO series based on that book, which is weird to say that a series is based 00:04:14.116 --> 00:04:15.661 on a book that is, in fact, a biography. 00:04:16.102 --> 00:04:21.526 The series is just based on John Adams' life but I have that on DVD as well 00:04:21.526 --> 00:04:24.873 and I've watched that more recently but it's fabulous I mean it's really good 00:04:26.096 --> 00:04:30.516 big fan and a book that's similar that I really like in fact I prefer it for 00:04:30.516 --> 00:04:34.156 people who want a shorter book is a book called First Family and it's about 00:04:34.156 --> 00:04:36.396 John and Abigail and their family and so 00:04:37.416 --> 00:04:42.536 you get a little bit more a little bit more dynamic beyond John himself but 00:04:42.536 --> 00:04:44.853 it's a shorter read it's not nearly as 00:04:46.223 --> 00:04:48.951 detailed as John Adams by David McCaw. 00:04:49.143 --> 00:04:50.796 I've really enjoyed learning more about him. 00:04:53.158 --> 00:04:57.158 And I know this would probably upset him a little bit, kind of the person he 00:04:57.158 --> 00:04:58.569 was and his aspirations. 00:04:59.074 --> 00:05:03.688 But he kind of seemed like he probably felt like, even if it was true or not 00:05:03.688 --> 00:05:06.522 true, it was true at times and probably not as true at other times. 00:05:06.824 --> 00:05:10.508 It felt like he was playing second fiddle a lot of times to other people, 00:05:10.508 --> 00:05:12.028 including George Washington himself. 00:05:12.028 --> 00:05:13.930 It's his own personal baggage. Yeah. 00:05:15.758 --> 00:05:19.668 And so that is true, though. That's kind of, you know, we think about George 00:05:19.668 --> 00:05:22.298 Washington. and we're like yeah and then there's that John Adams guy and yes 00:05:22.298 --> 00:05:24.112 he was the first vice president and like, 00:05:24.663 --> 00:05:27.187 You know, and the second president, and he's just sort of... 00:05:27.447 --> 00:05:32.517 No, but he had a complex about this, right? Like, his dying words were exclaiming 00:05:32.517 --> 00:05:33.797 that Jefferson still lives. 00:05:33.797 --> 00:05:34.707 Yeah, right. 00:05:34.707 --> 00:05:39.707 Like, he was upset that he didn't outlive Thomas Jefferson. Yeah. 00:05:39.707 --> 00:05:44.487 You know, they were the last two signers of the Declaration alive when they 00:05:44.487 --> 00:05:46.792 passed. And they passed on the same day within hours of each other. 00:05:46.955 --> 00:05:50.577 Right. But that's, yeah, that's how heavy that baggage, that personal complex 00:05:50.577 --> 00:05:53.927 was. Like, I'm dying and that guy is still alive. 00:05:54.287 --> 00:05:59.487 Yeah exactly you know so that's what i mean is like we tend to not know as much 00:05:59.487 --> 00:06:01.032 about him as we probably should 00:06:01.426 --> 00:06:05.217 and so i have enjoyed getting to know him a bit better very principled fellow 00:06:05.478 --> 00:06:11.241 he is very principled i agree he may not have been the most likable fellow uh for a lot of people 00:06:11.648 --> 00:06:15.637 but uh he was there's definitely one thing you could say about him and is he 00:06:15.637 --> 00:06:19.267 he knew his principles and he stood by them absolutely very. 00:06:19.267 --> 00:06:25.098 Weird father too as far as like parenting goes It was like he turned out one incredible human. 00:06:25.266 --> 00:06:25.591 Yeah. 00:06:25.806 --> 00:06:28.134 And the rest of it's a bit of a domestic disaster. 00:06:28.291 --> 00:06:28.567 Yeah. 00:06:29.627 --> 00:06:33.187 But John Quincy Adams was arguably one of the best presidents we've ever had. 00:06:33.187 --> 00:06:34.606 I mean, just an amazing human. 00:06:35.687 --> 00:06:39.107 I mean, you're right about that as far as – I mean, it's fascinating to get 00:06:39.107 --> 00:06:44.577 to know him as well too through this as a youngster and being – accompanying 00:06:44.577 --> 00:06:47.887 his dad overseas to France, to the Netherlands, 00:06:49.127 --> 00:06:51.027 to England, all over the place. 00:06:51.027 --> 00:06:54.667 I read a biography about him specifically. I'm going to look it up while you're talking. 00:06:54.667 --> 00:06:59.684 He got a heck of an education for a young man at an early age. 00:07:00.688 --> 00:07:02.967 And we should probably move on from this, get on to the episode. 00:07:02.967 --> 00:07:05.337 But it's been fun to kind of just talk about it for a minute. 00:07:05.337 --> 00:07:11.257 And, of course, you know, in light of our approaching 250th nation's birthday, 00:07:11.257 --> 00:07:12.523 I think this is all appropriate. 00:07:12.790 --> 00:07:17.847 Yeah, here it is. It was just called John Quincy Adams by Harlow Giles Unger. 00:07:18.567 --> 00:07:20.107 Junger? I don't know. Fantastic. 00:07:20.837 --> 00:07:23.489 Fantastic. Yeah. I mean, this is a guy who... 00:07:26.113 --> 00:07:30.833 Watched The the the cannon go up on Dorchester Heights. Yeah from his from his 00:07:30.833 --> 00:07:32.923 hometown. Yeah, so yeah, like he 00:07:32.923 --> 00:07:39.843 Was there what he watched He really watched the creation of this nation. 00:07:39.843 --> 00:07:43.733 Yes through the eyes of a youngster up through a team Yeah, he was a goal to 00:07:43.733 --> 00:07:50.713 ultimately being the president right yeah being involved in Diplo diplomacy 00:07:50.713 --> 00:07:52.413 with the French and overseas. 00:07:52.413 --> 00:07:56.833 And he like his political failings were tied to the fact that he just wanted 00:07:56.833 --> 00:07:59.875 to do what was right and not align with the political party. 00:08:01.263 --> 00:08:06.034 He was really our last president who didn't just say, screw it. 00:08:06.983 --> 00:08:08.732 Just tell me what the party line is. Right. 00:08:09.080 --> 00:08:15.413 Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's been... Anyway, thanks for bringing up some of the books 00:08:15.413 --> 00:08:16.623 you read and that's what I'm up to. 00:08:16.983 --> 00:08:21.923 I hope to finish that maybe in the next week or so which would be just in time 00:08:21.923 --> 00:08:26.126 for Independence Day. And yeah, it's been good. 00:08:28.007 --> 00:08:32.503 Well, we got a little off track there, but hopefully through that, 00:08:32.503 --> 00:08:34.583 some of you can kind of see where our mind is at. 00:08:35.043 --> 00:08:38.863 And maybe there's some recommendations that you can take from that as well to, 00:08:38.863 --> 00:08:41.335 hey, go check out some of those books. They're great books. 00:08:42.003 --> 00:08:48.568 I think my message would be, what are you doing this year to up your Independence Day game? 00:08:48.882 --> 00:08:54.042 Yeah like whatever your normal July 4th like you know plan is for your family 00:08:54.367 --> 00:08:57.723 take it up a notch yeah that's what's going on in the Paulson households right 00:08:57.723 --> 00:09:01.066 now is like how do we take this up a level yeah 00:09:03.104 --> 00:09:06.651 And not just in terms of the amount of money we spend on fireworks. 00:09:07.115 --> 00:09:09.587 Oh, I don't spend any money on fireworks. Yeah, I know. 00:09:09.587 --> 00:09:10.817 I'm talking about some families. 00:09:10.817 --> 00:09:14.247 Sure, sure, sure. I mean, if that's what you got to do, if that's how you do 00:09:14.247 --> 00:09:17.347 it, that's fine. Yeah, no, true. But that's the point. Like, 00:09:17.347 --> 00:09:19.347 don't make it another July 4th. Yeah. 00:09:20.988 --> 00:09:25.967 I was not yet born on the 200th anniversary, and I will probably be dead on the 300th. 00:09:25.967 --> 00:09:26.346 Yeah. 00:09:26.723 --> 00:09:28.437 So this is the big one in my lifetime. 00:09:28.437 --> 00:09:33.037 I hope to live to make that one, but we'll see. It's true. We probably will be dead. 00:09:33.037 --> 00:09:33.857 This is the big one. 00:09:33.857 --> 00:09:41.677 Yeah. Speaking of America, the World Cup, have you seen some of the news and 00:09:41.677 --> 00:09:45.557 stuff about foreigners coming here for World Cup games? 00:09:45.557 --> 00:09:47.017 Oh, all sorts of craziness. 00:09:47.017 --> 00:09:49.990 And how they're just like, wow, America's awesome. 00:09:51.522 --> 00:09:56.247 Yeah, there's been several. So there's the whole ranch dressing drama. 00:09:56.509 --> 00:09:58.836 Oh, yeah, yeah. Some people lose their minds about ranch dressing. 00:09:59.504 --> 00:10:03.463 And then there's this tweet that's gone viral, like crazy viral. 00:10:04.327 --> 00:10:08.101 It's something like the most looked at tweet in like three years or something. 00:10:08.409 --> 00:10:14.687 It's basically a guy exclaiming how the local Chili's restaurant gave him free chips and salsa. 00:10:16.507 --> 00:10:18.507 Without any evidence he could pay the bill yet. 00:10:23.467 --> 00:10:26.797 Yep. Like the honor. Free chips and salsa. The honor. I think he was from Japan, 00:10:26.797 --> 00:10:30.697 so you would relate to this. but you know like that the america would just assume 00:10:30.697 --> 00:10:32.847 such the such honor people yeah 00:10:32.847 --> 00:10:37.227 You know yeah yeah free free drink refills i mean people have been you know 00:10:37.227 --> 00:10:42.506 of course people have been discovering bucky's and walmart and i mean yeah. 00:10:42.790 --> 00:10:44.417 So welcome welcome it's 00:10:44.417 --> 00:10:45.345 Been fun to see, 00:10:46.291 --> 00:10:51.260 Anyway, let's get into the episode, but we do have a quick little sponsorship message. 00:10:51.759 --> 00:10:56.618 We have upcoming our big annual Independence Day sale. 00:10:57.013 --> 00:11:01.895 Happy Birthday America sale. This will be our happy 250th birthday sale. It'll be a big one. 00:11:03.120 --> 00:11:06.365 We've done this annual sale for quite a few years now. 00:11:07.177 --> 00:11:12.440 And looking forward to kicking this off. 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But stay tuned. 00:12:55.265 --> 00:12:59.974 As of when I was doing preparation for this episode, some news has changed, 00:12:59.974 --> 00:13:01.054 meaning that the Supreme Court 00:13:01.054 --> 00:13:06.253 has just announced as of a couple of hours ago, another major ruling. 00:13:06.573 --> 00:13:09.377 So we'll cover that as well today. So stay tuned for that. 00:13:09.882 --> 00:13:15.679 But first, we're going to lead off with a story about how the Supreme Court ruled on the U.S. 00:13:15.679 --> 00:13:20.734 Versus Himani case, which is a very interesting case. And I'll tell you, 00:13:20.734 --> 00:13:25.472 there were some people who were like, why this case? Because it's a case littered with all kinds of, 00:13:26.621 --> 00:13:32.191 dirt. It's a dirty case. It's not the ideal. It's not a Bruin, for instance. 00:13:32.191 --> 00:13:33.891 No, it's not setting some big precedent. 00:13:33.891 --> 00:13:36.511 It's not McDonald's. It's not Heller. 00:13:36.971 --> 00:13:42.321 I mean, it sort of stirs the drink a little bit, but it doesn't clear up a lot. 00:13:42.321 --> 00:13:45.541 And that's really what I want to talk about today is what the Himani case really, 00:13:45.541 --> 00:13:47.374 what this ruling really is about. 00:13:48.791 --> 00:13:52.181 It's kind of a big deal, but also kind of not a big deal. So Jacob, 00:13:52.181 --> 00:13:55.361 I mean, you wrote an article on the site about this. You guys can see it on 00:13:55.361 --> 00:14:00.644 concealedcarry.com about marijuana and gun rights so what's the deal with him on a case. 00:14:01.039 --> 00:14:05.691 So the background is this guy basically um is under suspicion of stuff and he 00:14:05.691 --> 00:14:09.881 submits to a search so he you know allows for a search to take place at his 00:14:09.881 --> 00:14:15.126 residence and that search turns up some marijuana as well as a gun among other things 00:14:15.660 --> 00:14:20.583 and so you know charges are filed because hey you can't be in possession of 00:14:21.047 --> 00:14:25.721 this drug uh you know that's at a federal level you know a drug this the fbi 00:14:25.721 --> 00:14:29.091 conducting right the search right as well as a gun like that's though you know 00:14:29.091 --> 00:14:33.238 that's a no go so we're going to charge you with possession you know blah blah blah 00:14:33.650 --> 00:14:38.892 I think he even specifically like told agents when asked that he used marijuana every other day. 00:14:39.147 --> 00:14:39.884 Yeah yeah 00:14:40.053 --> 00:14:43.501 I mean there's there's a lesson right there and far as you know like. 00:14:44.211 --> 00:14:48.991 Don't submit to searches don't admit anything kind of thing talk 00:14:48.991 --> 00:14:49.621 To an attorney. 00:14:49.621 --> 00:14:52.151 Kind of thing he's got an attorney now i can tell you that Yeah, 00:14:52.151 --> 00:14:54.316 yeah, yeah, his attorneys are all over this. 00:14:55.070 --> 00:14:58.721 So I always find it, okay, sorry, that's, that's a side note. 00:14:58.721 --> 00:15:01.771 So, so anyway, long story short, 00:15:02.431 --> 00:15:06.059 you know, he appeals this, this, this, these charges, this conviction, 00:15:06.640 --> 00:15:12.121 it goes up through a number of courts to basically all uphold it until it gets 00:15:12.121 --> 00:15:15.299 the Supreme Court, the Supreme Court says, no. 00:15:16.338 --> 00:15:20.141 And their ruling is relatively narrow. 00:15:20.581 --> 00:15:25.997 Their ruling is not, you can smoke weed, it's fine. And the ruling is not, 00:15:26.467 --> 00:15:28.209 you can have marijuana and a gun, that's fine. 00:15:29.641 --> 00:15:33.021 That's not the ruling. The decision, as it's written, is basically 00:15:35.101 --> 00:15:37.451 that the state, the prosecutor, whatever you want to call it, 00:15:37.451 --> 00:15:43.546 they failed to demonstrably show that the use of marijuana made this man a danger. 00:15:43.935 --> 00:15:48.892 And therefore that stands up to the Bruin standard to take away his rights. 00:15:49.561 --> 00:15:50.512 Let me word this in a different way. 00:15:53.217 --> 00:15:56.885 And it's funny because sometimes I think the Supreme Court, they only care about 00:15:56.885 --> 00:16:00.223 the Bruin decision when it's convenient, and other times they seem to ignore it. 00:16:00.409 --> 00:16:07.335 But in short, basically what the decision says is the standard that allows you 00:16:07.335 --> 00:16:10.857 to take away someone's Second Amendment rights is pretty high. 00:16:11.339 --> 00:16:15.216 There's a couple of ways to take away someone's rights. None of them are easy, 00:16:15.559 --> 00:16:18.075 and that's the point of Bruin. One of them is sort of this historical thing 00:16:18.075 --> 00:16:21.213 like, hey, you have to show that there's some historical analog for this. 00:16:21.840 --> 00:16:25.590 But another way you can have your rights taken away, your Second Amendment rights, 00:16:25.892 --> 00:16:27.987 is if you're demonstrably dangerous. 00:16:29.315 --> 00:16:35.354 You having a gun is a dangerous thing. And the courts in this case, 00:16:35.895 --> 00:16:40.068 the prosecutors, for lack of a better word, they were going with both of those. 00:16:40.416 --> 00:16:43.575 They were saying, well, historically, drunkards were a problem. 00:16:44.595 --> 00:16:49.054 There's some historical tradition of not allowing drunkards to have a gun. How is that different? 00:16:49.611 --> 00:16:56.275 And they were also taking the angle of possession of a class whatever drug is 00:16:56.275 --> 00:16:58.835 inherently makes you a danger to yourself or others. 00:16:59.485 --> 00:17:01.445 And so the Supreme Court basically looked at both of those and said, 00:17:01.445 --> 00:17:04.628 first off, this historical analogy about drunkards is silly on its surface. 00:17:06.115 --> 00:17:11.435 Don't waste our time. And then secondly, the occasional or regular use of marijuana 00:17:11.685 --> 00:17:15.755 does not demonstrably show that someone is a danger to themselves or others, 00:17:15.755 --> 00:17:18.935 and therefore that is insufficient to take away their second member rights. 00:17:19.835 --> 00:17:25.872 So this does not remove the drug or marijuana question from the 4473. 00:17:26.134 --> 00:17:28.014 This does not change federal law. 00:17:28.398 --> 00:17:34.535 This simply says that in this case, this dude's use of marijuana did not in 00:17:34.535 --> 00:17:38.685 any way demonstrably show he was dangerous to himself or others. 00:17:38.685 --> 00:17:42.817 And therefore, that doesn't meet the standard to remove his Second Amendment rights. 00:17:42.980 --> 00:17:47.885 Yeah. Right. And so it is important to understand that, you know, 00:17:47.885 --> 00:17:49.895 that distinction there of, you, 00:17:50.805 --> 00:17:57.601 the laws still stand you know 18 us code 922 g3 which is what the statute that 00:17:57.601 --> 00:18:01.753 this falls under is that still it like that has been unaffected, 00:18:02.252 --> 00:18:07.461 um the form 4473 is still a thing the question will likely still remain although 00:18:07.461 --> 00:18:12.851 i mean the atf at any time the trump administration could change that um but the the question as, 00:18:13.311 --> 00:18:18.743 as right now still remains and the question is basically you know Are you an unlawful user, 00:18:19.231 --> 00:18:21.988 of marijuana or other illicit drugs? 00:18:22.811 --> 00:18:29.523 And so you still need to, when filling out that form, fill it out truthfully if you're not going. 00:18:29.865 --> 00:18:30.641 To lie on the form as a 00:18:30.641 --> 00:18:36.451 Felony. Right, right. Which, by the way, is one of the charges that Hunter Biden 00:18:36.451 --> 00:18:42.811 was convicted under was lying on the 4473 when he purchased his gun back in 2018. 00:18:43.298 --> 00:18:48.991 He was also convicted of being a habitual, or I can't remember the exact word 00:18:48.991 --> 00:18:53.011 that was used, but he was also convicted for the use of drugs and having a drug 00:18:53.011 --> 00:18:55.500 problem while also owning and possessing a gun. 00:18:55.936 --> 00:18:59.883 But he was, I think the bigger thing was that he lied specifically on that form. 00:19:00.086 --> 00:19:01.450 So that's still a thing is my point. 00:19:01.884 --> 00:19:07.475 And so you're going to want to, as far as how this affects you or any of us, 00:19:07.910 --> 00:19:14.391 is probably talk to an attorney that understands the laws for your particular 00:19:14.391 --> 00:19:16.838 jurisdiction, the state or whatever that you live in, 00:19:18.071 --> 00:19:23.740 as far as how it is appropriate to answer questions like what's found on the 4473. 00:19:25.290 --> 00:19:29.071 If you live in a state where you can buy guns privately without a 4473, 00:19:29.071 --> 00:19:30.201 that's probably a better plan. 00:19:31.102 --> 00:19:35.436 Assuming you're, I mean, for all of us, let alone someone who's medicinally 00:19:35.436 --> 00:19:36.872 or recreationally using marijuana. 00:19:37.070 --> 00:19:41.106 But it would seem to also suggest, though, that, and nothing's a for sure thing 00:19:41.106 --> 00:19:47.706 here is kind of a point, but that if you are an occasional user of things like 00:19:47.706 --> 00:19:49.475 marijuana and also a gun owner, 00:19:50.723 --> 00:19:54.827 I think this makes it a lot more difficult for you to get charged. Yes. 00:19:54.984 --> 00:19:58.873 Well, and one of the things that came up in the decision as it was written, 00:19:59.274 --> 00:20:04.456 and this is an anonymous ruling by the Supreme Court, though not all of them 00:20:04.787 --> 00:20:06.389 agreed for the same reasons. 00:20:06.952 --> 00:20:08.616 Unanimous. I think you said anonymous. 00:20:08.616 --> 00:20:10.366 Oh, I said anonymous? Unanimous. 00:20:10.786 --> 00:20:11.566 Which was pretty notable. 00:20:11.566 --> 00:20:13.576 Unfortunately, not anonymous. We know who they are. 00:20:13.576 --> 00:20:13.884 Yeah. 00:20:14.232 --> 00:20:17.026 But it was unanimous. Thank you. But not for the same reasons. 00:20:17.706 --> 00:20:22.666 Is X number of judges agreed with this decision, and then the other three still 00:20:22.666 --> 00:20:24.600 agreed with the decision, but for these other reasons. 00:20:24.936 --> 00:20:28.126 So if you read the majority decision as it's written, the other thing that they 00:20:28.126 --> 00:20:33.146 mention is that if this drug, if marijuana is the kind of thing that makes people 00:20:33.146 --> 00:20:37.730 so dangerous, then why did the federal government recently change its classification 00:20:39.066 --> 00:20:40.126 from whatever type? 00:20:40.486 --> 00:20:43.926 Schedule 1 to Schedule 3. So that also came up in the decision, 00:20:43.926 --> 00:20:45.857 and I think that's relevant. 00:20:47.547 --> 00:20:52.093 Very much so. Yeah, we have a comment there from somebody asking something about Biden. 00:20:53.133 --> 00:20:55.433 I think you're trying to say was acquitted of these charges, 00:20:55.433 --> 00:20:58.643 but I think what you may mean is he was convicted of those charges, 00:20:58.643 --> 00:21:02.058 but then later pardoned by conveniently his father. But anyway. 00:21:02.273 --> 00:21:04.333 Works out really well when your dad can pardon you. Yeah. 00:21:06.429 --> 00:21:11.403 So anyway, there you go. That's the Himani ruling. So if you have questions 00:21:11.403 --> 00:21:14.063 about that, talk to our attorney because we can't be your attorneys for you. 00:21:15.090 --> 00:21:20.523 So let's go now to the next one here, Jacob. This was actually a story from 00:21:20.523 --> 00:21:22.213 The Reload, which is a great blog. 00:21:22.713 --> 00:21:26.166 I've referenced that. We've referenced it on the podcast a few times over the years as well. 00:21:26.903 --> 00:21:33.653 Basically kind of a summary over a number of cases that are going before the 00:21:33.653 --> 00:21:37.509 Supreme Court and being denied or whatever. 00:21:37.875 --> 00:21:42.663 Because what recently happened was the Supreme Court declined to take on two 00:21:42.663 --> 00:21:47.732 New York cases. Now, to be clear, both of these cases were in the preliminary injunction phase. 00:21:48.306 --> 00:21:51.043 So it was one of those things where, like one of them, by the way, 00:21:51.043 --> 00:21:55.946 is dealing with the New York gun carry training requirements. 00:21:56.338 --> 00:22:01.243 The other one had to do with gun industry liability, which are both things that 00:22:01.243 --> 00:22:02.666 New York has tried to make stricter. 00:22:02.962 --> 00:22:05.951 Or in the case of gun industry liability, they've tried to make it, 00:22:06.816 --> 00:22:12.987 they passed a law, basically provides a route for people to sue gun makers for, 00:22:13.897 --> 00:22:19.262 And, of course, that shouldn't be the case under federal law. Right. 00:22:19.262 --> 00:22:22.343 Well, just like marijuana shouldn't be legal under federal law. Right. 00:22:22.518 --> 00:22:26.459 And so both of those cases is the sort of thing where, 00:22:28.282 --> 00:22:32.942 the folks arguing those cases, the plaintiffs were trying to get preliminary 00:22:32.942 --> 00:22:35.637 injunctions and trying to get the Supreme Court to, 00:22:36.467 --> 00:22:40.368 put a stop on the enforcement or implementation of those laws before, 00:22:40.763 --> 00:22:43.805 you know, so that while they work their way through the court. 00:22:44.722 --> 00:22:47.872 Through the court system. And instead, the Supreme Court, which by the way, 00:22:47.872 --> 00:22:50.712 this is nothing particularly surprising for the Supreme Court. 00:22:50.712 --> 00:22:56.522 They're usually pretty careful about enforcing or putting in place preliminary 00:22:56.522 --> 00:22:58.345 injunctions or allowing them to stand, 00:22:59.042 --> 00:23:03.132 and getting themselves inserted into cases before they actually make their way 00:23:03.132 --> 00:23:06.147 through the system through all the different procedures, if you will. 00:23:06.681 --> 00:23:10.466 And so in this case, neither of those cases were accepted by the Supreme Court 00:23:10.738 --> 00:23:13.507 to hear them on the merits of those preliminary injunctions. 00:23:13.740 --> 00:23:16.874 They just send them back down to those lower courts to do their thing. 00:23:18.082 --> 00:23:22.672 But then it also in this article talks about how there's a number of other cases 00:23:22.672 --> 00:23:25.582 that are basically sitting on the docket, so to speak. 00:23:26.402 --> 00:23:30.772 There's 25 other, well, let's see. Simultaneously, it says the Supreme Court 00:23:30.772 --> 00:23:34.332 accepted four new Second Amendment challenges and relisted 25 others. 00:23:34.332 --> 00:23:40.199 In other words, there's 29 Second Amendment cases now pending in the Supreme Court in their books. 00:23:40.646 --> 00:23:43.989 That's pretty interesting. It's a pretty big deal. We know that, go ahead. 00:23:44.762 --> 00:23:50.224 In context, I don't know how many cases total are pending with the Supreme Court, 00:23:50.578 --> 00:23:52.870 but the Supreme Court has got a massive docket. 00:23:53.102 --> 00:23:55.639 Yeah. And I think that's part of the context that you have to take, 00:23:56.068 --> 00:23:58.623 and that's exactly kind of what you're building up to, is this idea that, 00:23:59.662 --> 00:24:00.759 yeah, they can't take them all. 00:24:00.927 --> 00:24:01.142 Yeah. 00:24:01.403 --> 00:24:05.014 So for them to deny this or deny that one is not the end of the world. 00:24:05.205 --> 00:24:09.838 I also think that there's a hierarchy here in the pro-gun world. 00:24:10.704 --> 00:24:14.158 Rights battle versus the anti-gun rights battle. 00:24:14.372 --> 00:24:21.129 And what I mean by a hierarchy is like we generally want to focus on the biggest fish to fry. 00:24:21.867 --> 00:24:25.884 So I'm less concerned, and I think that the gun rights community generally is 00:24:26.226 --> 00:24:30.917 less concerned that some states require some amount of training in order to 00:24:30.917 --> 00:24:34.557 obtain a concealed carry permit or potentially a gun permit. 00:24:34.557 --> 00:24:35.659 We can come back to that one in a minute. 00:24:36.547 --> 00:24:41.174 Than I am that states are making my AR-15 outright illegal. 00:24:42.033 --> 00:24:44.738 So it's sort of like, okay, where are we going to focus our time? 00:24:45.667 --> 00:24:47.577 I'm more concerned that 18-, 19-, 00:24:47.577 --> 00:24:51.256 and 20-year-olds don't have full Second Amendment rights in some states. 00:24:52.127 --> 00:24:56.117 So I think that you see that too from the Supreme Court side is they have to 00:24:56.117 --> 00:24:58.396 look at all the things coming before them and sort of say, 00:24:58.948 --> 00:25:02.237 what are the battles that we're – what are the most important things for us 00:25:02.237 --> 00:25:05.967 to settle, to sort through, to deal with, And one of the things that are sort 00:25:05.967 --> 00:25:09.967 of like, eh, maybe down the road we can come back to that, but right now it 00:25:09.967 --> 00:25:12.415 just is not, like that's a small fish. 00:25:12.903 --> 00:25:17.187 Yep. Yeah, and to give, you know, to kind of build off further what you were 00:25:17.187 --> 00:25:20.206 just explaining, some of the bigger fish that we're talking about here. 00:25:21.252 --> 00:25:25.722 You know, included in these 29 cases that are currently sitting within the Supreme 00:25:25.722 --> 00:25:31.102 Court's docket, so to speak, is our cases that are dealing with semi-automatic 00:25:31.102 --> 00:25:34.468 firearms and rifles, particularly like AR-15 style rifles, 00:25:35.728 --> 00:25:37.690 magazine capacity limitations. 00:25:38.692 --> 00:25:40.232 Those are probably the two really big ones. 00:25:40.292 --> 00:25:41.362 Several of both of those. 00:25:41.362 --> 00:25:46.912 Yeah, several, several. And so, and those are, I would also say, bigger fish. 00:25:47.372 --> 00:25:56.132 These are really, really landmark type cases if they make their way through 00:25:56.132 --> 00:26:00.212 the full Supreme Court process, having a hearing, arguments, 00:26:00.212 --> 00:26:02.255 all of that, and eventually a ruling. 00:26:02.528 --> 00:26:07.439 I mean, Justice Kavanaugh, we know a year or so ago, indicated, 00:26:08.252 --> 00:26:12.472 that, hey, we anticipate, or he anticipates at least, that the Supreme Court 00:26:12.472 --> 00:26:19.062 would be addressing the AR-15 matter soon, like in the next term or two, which is a big deal. 00:26:19.062 --> 00:26:23.792 So I think that's what we're talking about here is the Supreme Court has to 00:26:23.792 --> 00:26:28.592 be a little picky and choosy about what they go after, what they accept, 00:26:28.592 --> 00:26:31.198 what they're going to actually take on. 00:26:31.992 --> 00:26:35.935 And there's some really big things that they have already agreed to hear. 00:26:36.752 --> 00:26:39.942 And them saying no to take on a case does not in any way mean that another case 00:26:39.942 --> 00:26:43.000 with similar fact pattern or question couldn't come later. Right. 00:26:43.832 --> 00:26:48.442 Or is that these cases they denied to take a look at right now won't eventually end up there anyway. 00:26:48.442 --> 00:26:51.612 Because again these were just preliminary injunctions they were asked to review, 00:26:52.952 --> 00:26:57.302 right uh not not the actual you know not even hearing the the the whole case 00:26:57.302 --> 00:27:03.107