Gin Ruiz Cam was a ruthless drug king
Penn in Dallas, Texas during the late 19
eighties.
Connected to a powerful Mexican drug cartel,
Cam had an ins
lust for violence.
Fellow drug dealers noted that he could turn
his brutality on and off like a light
switch.
Cam once told his right hand man that
he planned to cut out a guy's hard
and eat it and make him eat it
too.
During his capital murder trial, a prosecutor
described Cam as a mad dog killer.
After Jurors sentenced him to death,
The judge remark that the trial had featured
the most g test and bizarre set of
facts
ever heard in a courtroom in this nation
since the Charles Manson Killings in California,
call the verdict
exceedingly
appropriate.
Just how g tests you wonder?
Cam put a woman through a tree mulch
and murdered a 4 year old boy and
his mother.
Fbi special agent Ta Bailey of the Dallas
violent crime task force
pursued Cam for 2 years.
At the time of the trial, Bailey said
Cam was the worst criminal he'd had come
across in 21 years.
In 2024,
long retired from the bureau,
Bailey sat down to talk to me about
the case that still haunt him today.
We had a history together from my reporting
years earlier on bank takeover gangs and wanted
violent fugitive.
19 99, bailey presented me with the first
ever Dallas Crime Commission award for excellence in
crime reporting.
And Ta Bailey joined the Fbi after serving
with the marines in Vietnam.
After 14 years with a bureau,
Bailey transferred to the Dallas field office to
head up the Dallas swat team and work
violent crime cases.
So we we covered everything from
bank robber,
to kidnapping,
ex,
Armored car Robber and fugitive.
Most of the fugitive being
wanted
as
unlawful was called unlawful flight. They've been charged
by state authorities for some type of a
violent crime. It could be murder could be
armed robbery
kidnapping
whatever the state had charged a felony in
on with
belief that the person had travel in interstate
commerce.
The cam case began with a brutal murder
in kidnapping at a crack house in pleasant
grove,
A notoriously violent neighborhood in Southeast Dallas.
And to this day, pleasant grove remains a
hotspot for crime.
On the day in question,
33 year old Gin Cam
arrived outside the house with 3 acc.
Cam a stock and sw 5 foot 7,
175
pound drug dealer
was already wanted in South Texas for killing
a man with a shot gun over a
trivial name calling dispute.
His presence ex a sinister Aura reminiscent
of a malevolent nineteenth century ghost.
Cam parked in from the d
2 story crack house,
psych himself up for the confrontation by banging
his fist on the steering wheel.
He had fronted 30000
dollars worth of marijuana
to 31 year old Evelyn banks an occasional
drug dealer who lived there with her 3
year old son Andre
and her common law husband, 52 year old
Sam junior wright.
Right, the boy's father was also a wanted
fugitive
drug dealer.
It was time for Evelyn to pay the
piper.
She had about 30000 dollars was to drugs
she was gonna sell in into projects.
But when she went down there, she got
ripped off.
So she didn't have the money.
So Cam kept calling wanting his money,
and she wouldn't answer the phone,
wouldn't blow him off and
wouldn't come to the door.
So he finally got fed up.
Cam rounded up some muscle to assist him
in collecting his dead.
He and Juan Jackson his girlfriend's 24 year
old brother,
headed to Eddie Blaine Cummings 2 bedroom apartment.
Cummings, a muscular 24 year old known as
fast eddie had been cam cell made in
the Dallas County jail a few months earlier.
He already had a long rap sheet, including
narcotics violations.
Legal possession of firearms
and stealing several thousand dollars from his mother.
Cam burst into the apartment shouting wake up,
we've got work to do.
But cummings who was in bed with his
23 year old girlfriend Pamela Miller
was sleeping off a hangover.
The night before cummings and Cam
had been out at baby dolls, a strip
club where Pamela worked as a top list
dancer.
Groggy and irritable,
cummings refused to budge. He told Cam to
round up his roommate, George David Cook, and
38 year old Larry Gene Merrill known as
the Indian to help with the job.
They went to the house.
When they got there, the house has a
front porch,
But they had burglar bars on the front,
all the around the front with a chain
around it to keep it locked,
and the padlock lock on it.
So when they got to the house, Cam
sent juan jackson around to the side, and
told him to cut the telephone line.
Which she did, and then they came and
cut the chain on the front door,
kicked in the front door,
David Cook had a 03:57,
and
I'm not sure if it was juan, or
Larry Mer had a Mac 10 submachine gun.
They kicked in the front door. They grabbed
devil and they sent 1 of the guys
up the stairs, grab Sam wright and Andre
banks, Evelyn 3 year row boy and brought
him downstairs.
And Cam started screaming at. He wanted his
money. He wanted his money he was gonna
get his money. Well about that time,
David Wilbur,
who was Sam Rights and nephew.
Came to the house
because they were planning on going this report
for a funeral that day,
and Sam did not wanna drive.
Sam had been convicted in federal court
for drug trafficking.
While the jury was a deli,
and they were in recess,
Sam walked down the stairs and walked out
of the courthouse.
So he was a federal fugitive
on the drug charges.
He didn't wanna drive because if they got
stopped,
he'd get arrested. So David Wilbur was gonna
drive because he was clean.
Well, they brought Wi,
and they put him down on his knees
and add him lie down flat on the
floor.
And cam kept screaming for his money
and said to show Business,
he told David cook to shoot.
Wilbur in the head.
Well,
David couldn't do it. So Cam took the
gun away from him and shot Wilbur in
the back of the head, with the 03:57.
He then
grabbed Sam,
Evelyn and Andre and said let's go.
And they started marching them out to the
car.
They were driving and I think the Lincoln
Continental
that belonged to David Cook mother.
Well, as they were getting into the car,
Sam wright, broken ran.
And he sent juan after him, but juan
couldn't catch him. So they took Evelyn and
Andre
took off and went to the apartment at
royal and central
and left Evelyn there.
With cook,
Eddie Blaine cummings,
and Larry Mer
realizing what was going on.
Said I'm getting out of here and he
left.
Ta Bailey watched the television news coverage of
the murder and kidnapping,
While sitting in the hospital where his daughter
was recovering from a tons.
When you saw on television, what was it
about your instincts that you said, this drug
related.
We had so many...
We had so many kidnapping that you could
tell
you could tell by
the neighborhood,
the victim,
the circumstances
of the kidnapping, you, that
this was not a sex related kidnapping.
This was to collect a drug debt. Sam
reid, the fugitive drug dealer who had escaped
call the Fbi and inform them that Cam
had taken Evelyn banks under son Andre Hostage
over the 30000 dollars she owed him for
25 pounds of marijuana.
Authorities were unaware that the mother and child
were being held at the apartment of Eddie
Blaine Cummings fast eddie
with his girlfriend, Pamela Miller, the stripper.
In the meantime, Bailey tracked down Cam wife
Vicki.
And she tells us about Cam girlfriend
named Wanda Jackson
and Wanda lives in Richardson.
And she's a black female with blue eyes.
And
so
we took that information.
She said,
she was trying to get a divorce from
Cam,
but Cam had threatened oliver of her lawyers,
so she was having trouble. None of the
lawyers wanted to take the case because they
were afraid of Cam.
She was divorcing him because she caught him
mole lasting. Their daughter.
So
so anyway, she said the girlfriend was Wanda.
So he's started doing
some background on wanda Jackson we found her
address in Richardson, Texas. We went up to
interviewer.
She said, no. She said, she hadn't seen
Cam since the previous Thursday
when they had gone to a funeral of
1 of her family members. But she didn't
know anything else about.
We found out later that as soon as
we left, she called Cam and said,
Big brother's been here, and he says you've
been a a very bad boy.
The Fbi quickly identified Cam and his 3
acc.
But by the end of the week, the
trail had gone cold.
Cam had made no effort to contact anyone
to demand ransom for Evelyn banks and her
3 year old son Andre.
There were no clues about the location of
the kidnapped victims are, Cam whereabouts.
A new lead emerged when Pamela Miller, the
top list answer and girlfriend of fast eddie
cummings
was reported missing.
A friend informed the police that Miller had
mentioned witnessing
something she shouldn't have
and that she was planning to go away
for a while.
Another acquaintance recognized Cam from newspaper stories as
the man she had seen with a strip
and others at baby dolls.
3 months into the investigation, the first of
2
significant breaks came the Fbi's way.
A snitch reported that Eddy Cummings was hiding
out in his hometown of Lot, Oklahoma and
planned to visit a restaurant.
Us Marshals
apprehended him serving him dessert in handcuffs.
Cummings unravel the story of the murder and
abduction
revealing the involvement of David Cook, who had
hesitate to pull the trigger to kill David
Wilbur.
Cook agreed to plead guilty to 1 federal
count of kidnapping and exchange for sharing what
he knew.
What he revealed was horrifying.
2 days after the murder and enraged Cam
informed cook that his girlfriend Wanda Jackson
had just been interviewed by Fbi agent Ta
bailey.
Furious that the Fbi was closing in on
him Cam ordered cooked a snatch Evelyn banks
in her son Andre from the apartment shared
with fast eddy cummings.
Cam, then directed Cook to find 26 year
old spencer Stanley,
a dangerous psycho path who did his dirty
work.
The group transported banks and her son north
to ar more Oklahoma just across the border
from Texas.
Cook recounted how K banks calm by
telling her they were going to fly her
to California from a Clan
airs strip.
So they went up to Ar more Oklahoma,
and they checked into a motel room,
and Cam hotels Spencer Stanley.
Go find a place
to get rid of these 2.
With that, but he's
he doesn't say that in front of Evelyn
and andre.
Spencer Stanley was from Oklahoma knew the area.
He went out to a remote area on
the back roads,
went back into the woods and Doug a
very
long deep hole.
It came back to the hotel and told
Cam it was done.
The next morning, Cam told Evelyn that he
had a Clan landing strip out in the
woods, and he was gonna have a plane
come pick them up take them into California,
and they were to stay there in California
until all the heat died down, then they
could come back.
So they drove to this remote area in
these dirt road,
and they walked back into their woods and
as soon as Evelyn saw the hole
she knew what was coming, and she led
out a scream and collapsed.
And Spencer Stanley had Andre on his shoulders.
He threw him down in the hole and
Cam pumped 4 rounds into his head, a
3 year old, a 3 year old,
from a 3 80.
He then pushed the evelyn in the hole
and pumped several rounds into her.
And then he sprinkle cat litter over her.
And then they filled up the hole, and
covered it up with brush.
Then they drove over to Tis
to a boat ramp on the lake t,
and they threw the 3 80 out into
the lake
After bumping along the back rows of Southern
Oklahoma for 2 days,
David Cook finally located the remote graves side
of Evelyn banks at her son Andre.
On a sw August afternoon in Texas
with no breeze to offer relief.
Fbi just began their Grim task of digging.
They soon uncovered spent 3 80 caliber cartridges.
A chilling testament to the violence that had
occurred.
After 2 hours of labor, an Fbi agent
standing way steep in the hold,
une earth the remains.
A foul stan fill the air overwhelming the
agents.
They neutralize the odor by smear Vic vapor
rub under their noses.
As they continue to dig, they found Evelyn
lying as she had died on top of
her son.
Both bodies were partially mum by the cat
litter, the killers had spread over them.
Another g
revelations
awaited.
En route from Dallas to search for banks
and our son,
David Cook and a matter of fact tone,
made a startling disclosure about the disappearance of
Pamela Miller, the top list dancer from baby
dolls.
David Cook told us
when we were taking him up to Oklahoma,
would it happened there.
And we were driving up 35,
and we knew Pamela Miller was missing
and then.
She supposedly had seen something she wasn't supposed
to see, which was what she saw at
the apartment,
and we asked David Cook we had heard
that Cam
took her to Mexico with him?
We asking,
where's where's Pamela Miller now?
Where in Mexico is he?
And he's he said she's not in Mexico.
She's dead.
We said,
Well,
where she buried?
He said you'll never find her.
And we said why not?
He said, well, we ran her through a
tree altar.
Bailey recalls nearly running off the road when
Cook revealed that Cam had grown in increasingly
suspicious of Pamela Miller.
Cam decides to take Pamela with him because
she'd seen too much.
And they went to a hotel out in
irving,
out near the airport.
When they got there,
Cam was trying to make another drug deal
to make a sale of a quantity.
And
he met with a guy named Michaels
at a hotel there In Dallas, I wanna
say, may have been Ana,
and they took Pamela Miller with them.
Well, when they got there,
Pamela had a lot to drink,
and she said something to
the guy Michaels who was there to buy
the drugs
I've seen seen you a baby dolls where
I dance.
And Michael started getting nervous,
and he excused himself to use the restroom
and he slipped out the back door never
came back.
Well,
this scent cam through the roof,
and he dragged her out to the car
soon as he got in the car, he
started punching owner her. And of course, she
made derogatory comments to him about is mask
lack of mac masculinity entity, which made him
even matter.
So
they drove to the back to the hotel,
they picked up David Cook,
and Cam started
str her,
in the back backseat of the car.
And then
when he thought she was dead, he got
in the front seat,
and Stanley said,
Gin, I think she's still alive.
So they pulled her out of the car,
slammed her on the side of the road
and had cooked drive over a couple of
times.
Threw in the back in the car.
Stanley said, I think she's still alive. So
little farther down the road, they pulled her
out, ran her over again.
Then they drove down to Steven
where David Cook had an apartment, and they
stuck her in a barrel.
And
left her there for a couple of days,
then they had
David Cook call his friend, Steve Smith.
And told Steve Smith to go rent a
tree altar,
come to Steven Bill.
And when Smith got to Steven,
Spencer Stanley,
David Cook,
Steve Smith drove out
to
David Cook family's ranch,
way out in a remote area of Steven.
And Steve Smith just kinda
sat back over to the side. He didn't
want any part of this, but he was
pretty well stuck.
They then dumped Evelyn out of the
barrel.
They
Spencer Stanley commenced to chop her up with
an axe,
and then feed the body parts through the
tree mulch and sprayed it into the wood
area.
They're in a remote area of the ranch.
And then they took the tree altar to
a car wash, ran it through the car
wash,
spray washed it through the inside, and then
had Steve Smith. Return it to the rental
place.
Bailey escorted cooked to his mother's ranch located
West of Fort Worth, where she willingly consented
to a search of the prop pretty.
Without even getting down and digging around,
we found them pieces of bone chip
with
notches through it. That obviously had been through
a grinder of some sort.
And we said, well, this is a spot.
But we'll have to come do a a
thorough search.
So we came back a couple of days
later.
We took the area, and we grid
it off into 20 foot by 20 foot
squares,
and we put an agent in each square
with a pair of
grass clippers
and a trial, and they went through
line by line,
digging through the grass.
Until they could pick up bone chips.
We picked up pieces of tissue that were
hanging in the trees
that had been hanging there since
this happened in
June.
So there'd been no rain, so it pretty
much the
tissue had dried and was just hanging in
the trees, we were able to take that
out.
We found a piece of a jaw bone
with some teeth seal in it, which would
help in identification.
Bailey successfully apprehended all of C acc.
It was a motley crew, particularly David Cook,
the criminal who struck a deal with prosecutors
to expose the full extent of the crimes.
David Cook was the 1 that purchased the
Mac tens.
He was he was a sadistic
individual. We found out
later on,
he actually
tortured animals,
which
Showed was pretty sadistic. Mh.
There was
there was a story that he had actually
taken
a litter of kittens and buried them up
to their neck and then run over them
with a lawn mower.
He was any tortured dogs.
He was he was pretty sadistic.
Spencer Stanley
was
he was just
very
uncontrollable. I mean, very hyper
individual.
Eddie Blaine cummings was basically just a punk.
Larry Merrill just got wrapped up in this
situation.
Didn't... He was
kinda light using the marijuana, he hung out
for the drugs. But once he realized what
he got into,
he got out of there.
Eddie Blaine cummings.
Like I said was a punk, but he
really did not and get involved in any
of the murders.
Fbi special agent Ta bailey discovered that Cam
had fled to Mexico.
The Mexican government declared it would require military
action to capture Cam
effectively rendering him untouchable.
Meanwhile, Dallas County Sheriff's intelligence agents,
intercepted a letter from Cam to a Jamaican
drug dealer,
solicit listening ahead on David Cook, the Fbi
inform.
Determined to bring Cam back,
bailey devised several schemes to lure him across
the border.
A breakthrough came when a Dea inform managed
to in ent Cam.
The inform boasted about his connections with mob.
Figures in Kansas City
and mentioned that organized crime associates were interested
in purchasing
10 tons of marijuana.
Figures At the time, Marijuana wholesale price on
the border was about 300 dollars a pound
making it a potential 6000000
dollar deal.
Anticipating that Cam would verify the inform credibility.
Bailey contacted 1 of his own
confidential sources within the Mexican drug trade.
He alerted the source that Cam might call
for
verification.
When Cam did, Bailey source assured him he
was dealing with legitimate contacts.
Bailey source reinforced the inform credibility by emphasizing
his connections
and financial backing
Despite the setup, Cam still hesitate to come
across the border.
To sweet the deal, The inform offered Cam
100000
dollars in earnest money,
which he could personally collect in Mca, Texas
just across the Rio grande.
Cam took the bait.
So we set up
a hundred thousand dollar
advanced payment,
on a drug deal.
That would take place in Mc.
You'd come across the border as a tourist
carrying a bottle of tequila
and
meet with the inform,
with the drug dealer,
in a hotel there in mc allen and
then he could go back and set it
up.
So the inform gave him a set of
clothes,
pair of white
shorts,
turquoise blue and white, C Loafers,
Hawaiian shirt,
and a hat. I never forget.
Blue and white hat to match the C
loafers that said,
beauty is skin deep, but ugly goes to
the bone.
So you gave him those clothes. He said
that way you we'll recognize you when you
come across.
So we set up this deal that we're
gonna give him a hundred thousand dollar
advance of money.
So he's coming across the bridge. We set
up with Fbi agents and Dea agents in
plain clothes,
all around the the bridge,
watching flooring.
And pretty soon we seem him coming across
the bridge,
and 1 of the D agent says
he's on the bridge now.
And I and I said over the radio.
Are you sure that's him.
He said, yeah. He's wearing those goofy clothes,
the inform gave him.
So I said, okay, let him get across.
So we had a plan. Of 3 different
stop locations.
The first 1 being to try to get
him as soon as he stepped on the
Us soil
but if we couldn't get him without the
chance of him running back, we'd let him
go to the next spot, which would be
the parking lot.
And if we couldn't positively grab him in
the parking lot, we grabbed him at the
hotel. But as it turned out, as soon
as he came across the bridge,
the Dea and Fbi agents
close off the bridge,
grabbed him
told him that they were,
border patrol,
and that they thought he was an illegal
immigrant. Where's is his Id?
He said, well, I don't have my Id.
I just went across to get a bottle
of tequila Here it is. My name's Thomas,
Sanchez.
They say said, well, we think you're an
the illegal immigrant.
We're gonna have to take your prints to
make sure
you are a Us citizen.
So they take him down to border patrol,
and they put him in the lock up.
At this time, I
my blood pressure's pumping.
I waited about 2 hours,
2 or 3 hours because we wanted to
make it look like,
he hadn't been set up because we didn't
wanna burn Dea foreman.
So waited about 2 or 3 hours.
I walked into,
cell block with his fingerprint cards.
And I said,
Tomas, I'm I'm Ta Bailey, from the Fbi.
I think you know who I am.
So no, I don't know. I don't never
heard of you which I knew he did.
Mh. Because I knew he got it from
Wanda. Yeah. I says, well,
u, your fingerprints came back, and they say
that your genome Cam,
and I pulled out his mug shot, and
I said, and that's you right,
And he said, I guess so think prince
must be right.
I says, well, I have a warrant for
you for murder and kidnapping.
And said,
well, it must be.
I says, well, we're taking you back to
Dallas.
I don't have anything to say.
I said, okay.
As we're flying up to Dallas,
we go through some kinda turbulent,
Whether I'm sitting through directly across from him,
and I just keep staring adding the whole
time, just looking at me. Why do you
keep looking at me?
I said, I'm just watching you.
And and he put his head down and
he looked up, and I'd just be staring
at it. Well then we go through some
turbulence
and and this little 6 seater single engine
plane starts bouncing around.
And he says,
are we gonna die
and Tom Porter, the pilot turned and said,
we're not, but you are.
So we landed at Dallas
at Red bird airfield, and
the marshall service are there to meet us.
A marshal service taking,
and he goes before the mag straight in
Dallas, and he goes to the Dallas County
jail,
Now we had made arrangements with the Us
attorney's office
that he would first be tried for capital
murder for killing David Wilbur.
And they would seek the death penalty.
Then
after that, he would be tried in federal
court.
For the kidnapping of Evelyn and Andre.
That way that if the death penalty was
overturned,
He would have the federal
life without parole,
and he would never see the light a
day.
In the spring of 19 90,
Dallas County jury sentenced its gin Cam to
death for the execution style murder of David
Wilbur 2 years earlier.
Wilbur, as you may recall had tragically shown
up at the wrong place at the wrong
time,
interrupting the abduction of Evelyn banks in her
3 year son Andre.
During the 2 week trial held under maximum
security,
the jury heard harrowing testimony for about Cam
brutal crimes.
They learned how he had murdered Pamela Miller
and fe her body into a tree
and how he had ordered the execution of
Evelyn banks at her young son.
Why did the 3 year old have to
die prosecutor Hugh Lucas asked the jurors
before turning to look directly at Cam.
He wasn't going to be an eye witness
to anything.
Prosecutor Addressing the jury, Lucas continued, you at
this point but become conscious of this community.
Lucas call Cam, the bad of the bad,
the mean of the meme.
He asserted if this death penalty was ever
warranted.
This is the case.
Several jurors
visibly shaken after more than 4 hours of
deli declaration.
Set crying as district judge Ron Chapman read
their verdict.
A 35 year old Cam made the sign
of the cross as sheriff's deputies escorted him
out of the courtroom.
There were fears that the cartel might attempt
to help Cam
escape.
The sheriff's office arranged that as soon as
he got the death penalty.
They took him back to the lock up,
they put him in the orange jumpsuit
the handcuffed.
They drove him with a guarded vehicles
out to a airs strip in Me mosquito.
Put him on a Dps plane, and they
flew him straight to Huntsville.
Did Death.
To death row, put him immediately on death
row, so that he would not be in
the Dallas County Jail.
Ta bailey in the Fbi continued hunting Cam
acc Juan Jackson.
The television show unsolved mysteries aired a segment
about the Fugitive,
leading to a breakthrough.
The manager of a soft drink bottling company
and Compton California
recognized Jackson as an employee loading trucks at
his plant.
Coworkers workers knew him as country for his
thick Texas accent and notified the Fbi.
Fbi just quickly moved in an apprehended Jackson,
Bringing him back to Dallas to stand trial
in federal court.
Jackson and Cam were tried in convicted of
kidnapping Evelyn banks, and her 3 year old
son Andre.
This conviction served as an insurance policy,
ensuring that Cam would spend the rest of
his life behind bars
if his death penalty sentence were ever overturned.
In late August 19 98,
exactly 10 years to the day since Ta
bailey,
fellow Fbi agents ex zoom the bodies of
Evelyn and Andre banks.
Cam faced the Texas
execution.
Bailey, and his former boss on the Violent
crime squad, Joe Hers,
and Pamela Miller mother, Mickey Miller.
Were present inside the Huntsville walls unit death
chamber.
Mickey Miller, the mother of the dancer who
had been fed into a tree mulch,
pressed herself against the glass window of the
booth reserve for victim's families.
Cam Leon Ga with his arms outs stretched.
Intravenous tubes inserted.
She chanted,
you're paying. You were finally paying.
Bailey mu under his breath,
suck it up mister Badass.
You're going to be dead in about 5
minutes.
When they brought him in. Pamela his mother
Mickey Miller. She pushed her chair right up
next to the glass. She had her face
right up on the glass.
Looking into the
execution chamber watching.
And Cam came in. He was a little
late coming in because they were having trouble
finding a vein, vein kept rolling.
Finally, they got an Iv in his arm,
and they brought him in. They brought him
in on the Gu,
he strapped down, feet,
waist and arms.
And the 1 arm is out on a
separate.
Arm
and strapped down with Iv in it, and
he's hooked up to the Iv with the
lethal injection
there's a chaplain standing at the foot? The
warden is
at the front at the head of the
Bend asked gin. Do you have any last
words
his family was in the room adjacent to
us.
And his words
to his family was, I'll see you on
the other side.
And then they
put the injection of the fluid in,
and you could hear in the next room,
the family, somebody was pounding on the glass
in the next room,
and then you hear him kinda sn
and then he was pronounced dead.
And you're feeling and the feelings of the
to the victim's mother?
I thought he got off easy.
The out the way he did compared to
what his victims had to go through.
After it was over,
we went back to the hotel where Mickey
and Joe and I were staying and Mickey
brought,
broke out a bottle of
sparkling wine
and popped the cork and
a toast to pamela.
What is it about this case that has
stayed with all these years.
The vicious cruel
vicious.
Still gets to you today.
Yeah.
You know,
and what I've saw in my career,
it's unthinkable.
You're just like
How did the person every kit
to be so brave and brute. Yeah. Yeah.
The the description of of what was done
the Pamela Miller
was was really brutal.
And as a side note
when
we found out where the molt had been
rented
we sent Chris La out there to get
the mulch so we could bring it in
to have it for a for forensic exam.
And the manager's thought somebody was playing a
joke on it,
and
said,
Yeah. Who's sent to here? This is a
joke cry.
Chris said, no. It's not. He said,
this was used to dispose of a body.
And we need it for a forensic exam,
and the manager says,
okay. I'll give it to you, but would
you give me a subpoena just to cover
me
So we went and gave him a a
subpoena for
that made him happy again and We took
down to our garage and the lab came
out and examined it.
But the brutality of the
disgusting nature of
someone being chopped up and put for a
mulch like that, Was pretty gruesome.
You know, I... Over the years I spoke
into groups and stuff and and I always
talk about evil walks amongst us, and I
have a lot of people don't believe it,
you know, especially academics.
Would you say in your career you saw
it?
There are people that find it hard to
believe, but I think people in law enforcement
they're well aware of it. You see it
every day.
Yeah.
You see it, especially
especially if you're working violent crime cases, you
see it every day.
After all these years are doing you ever
come away with any kind of
explanation
because I tell people I can't explain it.
It just
No.
Just it some people are just pure evil,
pure evil.
And I think
When you look at what's going on in
Mexico
today,
which is where this all originated from,
and you see the brutality of the cartel
down there.
I think you can understand
what we're dealing with here. It's an offs
shoot.
Of what's coming out of those cartel
south of.
The case of Gin Cam stands as a
stark reminder of the capacity for human brutality
and the relentless pursuit of justice by Fbi
agents.
It is a testament to the determination of
the brave men and women in law enforcement
who fight on our behalf
and the age o conflict of good
versus evil.
This is Robert Rig
reporting.