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After years of using five minute charts,

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I can see an incredible amount of
things going on, on a five minute chart,

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on a typical five minute
chart, let's say for the Emen,

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which is on the popular
Stock index future contract,

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that American Trade and Session
opens six 30 California time,

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one o'clock or one 15 California time.

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So you've got 81 5 minute bars
in the day. In a typical day,

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I see on an average day,

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I probably see 41 point
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and I probably see 60 or
70 setups on a typical 81,

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um, bar chart. I don't take all of them.
On an average day, I might take 10,

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20 or 30 trades, but I see an
incredible number of setups.

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Now I just sit down and I try to
structure as many good trades as I can

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a day on my 81 bars and on a good
day, you know, I don't lose anything.

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You know, I, I might win a hundred
percent of, uh, the trades.

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I know several traders,

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probably many traders who win about
90% of the time as, uh, day traders.

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And they win just about
every day, if not every day.

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I've never had a year in which I've
won every day of the year. You know,

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I always mess up some way, uh, at
some point during the year. Uh,

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my goal in life, I don't know if I'll
live long enough to achieve that goal,

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is to win every day of the.

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Year. Episode 217, folks, we got Al
Brooks back on the show after six years.

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He was episode 40 of my 52 Traders
podcast. And what I'm actually doing,

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cuz this has been locked away, is
I'm re-releasing this right now.

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You're gonna hear that interview,
please give me a bit of slack.

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It was my 40th interview ever,
so I'm probably not the best.

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Hopefully I've improved over time. But
yeah, that's coming up in a second.

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And what we've done, and even better,

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is we've got Al Brooks back in the house
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about an hour,

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and the guy just breaks down everything
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day. So please make sure you check that
out after listening to this archived

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interview that's being
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Welcome Al, thanks for joining me here
on the 52 Traders Podcast this week.

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I appreciate having the opportunity
to speak with your group.

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Thank you very much.

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Okay, Al, so I've mentioned
some of your highlights already,

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and I know that's only a
small part of your story,

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so can you tell the listeners a little
bit more about you personally and what

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first attracted you to trading?

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I grew up poor and my mother wanted
to have a doctor in the family,

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so she picked me to be the doctor.

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And all the time that I was
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becoming a doctor,
becoming an eye surgeon,

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I wondered if I should be downtown at
the me or the Board of Trade Trading.

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And I just didn't have the courage
to make the switch. You know,

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I knew staying as a physician was
a sure way to make a lot of money,

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and I had no idea whether or not I could
make money as a trader on the floor

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of, um, the futures or
options pits. And, um,

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so I stuck with, um,

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being a surgeon and I
worked extremely hard

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to save up a lot of money.
And in 1989, excuse me,

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1988, I had a daughter,

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and 15 months later I had
identical twin daughters.

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So I had three daughters
under the age of 15 months,

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and I thought, okay, I
saved up a lot of money.

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I'm gonna stay home and raise
the girls. And while doing that,

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I will also trade more.

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I started trading in 87
the month before the crash.

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And back then they did not have
eis. They had full size contracts.

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And the day of the crash, I
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I had to be in the office,
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eight o'clock or eight 30 or something
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I sorted shorted 13 [inaudible]
contracts, excuse me,

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13 s and p contracts,
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the equivalent of five times that.
So we have 65 contracts or something,

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and I had to close out before
I went to work. You know, the,

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the market started going,

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it went up actually on the morning
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And I ended up closing out the
position. I think I lost $5,000.

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And then as I was driving
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I could hear, uh, the reports that
the stock market's going down,

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and nobody knows how far down it's
going, but it's just going down. And, um,

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the drop is far beyond what the
computers are able to, uh, follow.

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And at the end of the day, had I
held onto my 13 s and p contracts,

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I would've made $400,000 on
the day. Unbelievable <laugh>.

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Yeah, which is crazy. And
that day I decided that,

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you know, there's pretty good upside
to being a full-time trader. And well,

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a couple years later, when my girls were
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sell my medical practice, stay home, and
become a full-time trader, which I did.

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And when you start out,
everyone who starts out,

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unless you're at Goldman Sachs or at
some major bank and they put you in some

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kind of training program, you have
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And back then, in the eighties,
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there was not much on the internet,
but when you subscribe to magazines,

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the ads were looked very attractive and
appealing. You know, I want to help you,

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uh, use my software, take my training
course. And, you know, I took courses. I,

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bought all kinds of software that
was guaranteed to make me rich.

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And every, you know, I spent a
lot of money on all kinds of help.

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And either the people
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which most of them were, or they
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some, I know at least two or three of
the software companies were ultimately,

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uh, charged with fraud.

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So there was no really good
source of information back. I,

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I learned in medical
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the best way to learn something
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and study it from someone
who's doing it really well.

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And I assumed that all these books,
I read everything, all these books,

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all these articles, all
these websites, you know,

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all these people were there to help me.

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And I was losing money and I kept losing
money and I lost money for about 10

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years. So I decided that, you know,

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somebody making money doing
this because I'm losing it.

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Somebody's making my money. So, so there,

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there is an ability to make money out
there, uh, but I simply did not have it.

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approach to learning was,

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was a failure. You know, trying to copy
what other people are doing, you know,

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reading, studying, uh, it's all garbage.

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And ultimately I concluded that
these people, some of them are,

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are honest but don't know how to do it.

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A lot of them are dishonest and they
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it. So I decided to strip away everything.

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Back then there was a big push. I mean,

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it was just assumed that
if you're going to trade,

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you have to use all kinds of indicators,
you know, bands and oscillators and,

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um, you know, G lines, gang lines
are actually popular back then.

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Nobody uses them anymore cuz you
know, they're, they're fraud.

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So I, my computer screens, I had
multiple monitors, I had, um, you know,

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all kinds of indicators, all
of my screens. And, you know,

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eventually I started to
write my own indicators.

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And I started to realize that indicators
are just another variation of a

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price chart. You know, you, you're,
you're waiting different factors,

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but anything that you see on an
indicator, you can see on a price chart.

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So I started to remove all of my
indicators and I left myself with simply

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a price chart. No, no average, no,
no moving averages, no nothing on it.

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I've tried every kind of timeframe,
you know, tick charts, volume charts,

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one minute chart, 60 minute charts,
um, all kinds of other kinds,

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all kinds of other charts over
the years. And I like rhythm,

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I like predictable rhythm
and time charts give me that.

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I know that the chart's gonna, the
bar's gonna close in five seconds,

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in 10 seconds, and one
second. I like that.

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Whereas you don't know that with
volume charts or tick charts. Also,

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the trend lines on time
charts are extremely reliable.

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A lot of computers use them. I mean, they
clearly use them because they're very,

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So I settled on using a time chart and
I've tried using smaller timeframes,

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like one minute charts and two minute
charts. I was making two minute mistakes.

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And then if you use higher timeframes,
you know, 15 minute charts,

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60 minute charts,

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it doesn't really make sense to sit in
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that. I like sitting in
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I like watching every tick during the day.

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And ultimately I settled
on a five minute chart.

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And after years of using
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I can see an incredible
amount of things going on.

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On a five minute chart. On a typical
five minute chart, let's say for the ein,

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which is the popular stock
index future contract,

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that American Trade and Session
opens six 30 California time,

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one o'clock or one 15
California time. So you got, um,

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81 5 minute bars in the
day. And a typical day,

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looking at those 81, um, bars,

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I see on an average day I
probably see 41 point scallops

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and 22 point scallops.

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And I probably see 60 or
70 setups on a typical

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81, um, bar chart. I
don't take all of them.

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On an average day, I might
take 10, 20 or 30 trades,

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but I see an incredible number
of setups. So on 81 bars,

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you know, I see at least one setup
on every, um, one or two bars.

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So I don't need indicators. And I
also don't need a 15 minute chart.

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I also don't need a globex
chart. I also don't need, um,

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charts of anything else because on
that one chart I'm seeing 40 or 50

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trades a day out of 81 bars.
So I don't need anything else.

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And that's what I do. I now,

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I just sit down and I try to
structure as many good trades as I

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can a day on my 81 bars and on a good day,

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um, you know, I don't lose
anything, you know, I,

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I might win a hundred percent
of, uh, the trades. Um, now I,

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I'm, there's, there's an organization
called the nfa, natural fu,

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national Futures Organization.

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And so I have to be careful
about what I say I personally do,

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cuz I don't want to be audited by
the nfa. Al you said x you know,

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uh, we wanna look at all your trades
for the past two years, you know,

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give us records of all
your trades. You know,

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I'm 64 years old and I don't
want to be audited by anybody,

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so let me speak in generalities.
I know several traders,

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probably many traders who
win about 90% of the time as,

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uh, day traders. And they win, um,
just about every day, if not every day.

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Um, I don't, I I've never had a year in
which I've won every day of the year.

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You know, I always mess up some way,
uh, at some point during the year. Um,

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my goal in life, I don't know if I'll
live long enough to achieve that goal,

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is to win every day of
the year. But, you know,

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invariably there's some day which, um,
has a couple fake out, moves early,

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and I lose. And then, um, the day
enters a very quiet training range.

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Or I'll have a doctor's
appointment and I'll have to run.

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Something will happen. So at the
end of the day, I've lost money,

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but I never lose, um, much money.

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Some really, really good story there,
Al. Um, have you got more, more to it?

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Cuz I'm gonna ask you all some questions
that dive a little deeper on some of

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those things, um,
throughout the show. Okay.

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Go ahead. Why don't you ask me?

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Okay, so, well, the first one I've got
is you mentioned, uh, that glines, uh,

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uh, you know, there's a fraud.
What, what did you mean by that?

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And where does that sort of come from?

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Because that's the first
time I've heard that.

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Okay. I could, you know,

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glines are dependent upon
your bar compression,

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how many bars you have on the chart,
and there's so many variables that, um,

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I I don't know of anyone who
consistently makes money using G lines

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and, you know, it's just a, for
a form of trend line. There are,

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there are other things out there
that are pretty fraudulent.

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A lot of fiocchi stuff is fraudulent.
Uh, just the, the, the basis,

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the logic behind Fiac is nonsense.

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That there's this magic spiral
of numbers that, um, you know,

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the entire world operates on, and
that's just total nonsense. Um,

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I can tell you that a 50%
retracement is extremely important.

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A 50% extension, a hundred percent
extension, those are extremely important.

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Coincidentally, the FCI numbers,

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but they're not important because
the FCI numbers, you know,

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I could talk for an hour about
the mathematics of why, uh,

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a 50% retracement is
important or why, um, uh,

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two-thirds or 75%
retracement is important.

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It has nothing to do with vichi, it
has all to do with risk and reward,

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uh, and probability. So, um, you know,

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so there are all things,

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a lot of things out there that look like
they're the cause of something where,

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where in fact they're just
correlated. And, um, okay, you know,

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fac numbers is, you know, if enough people
trade facs, they would be important,

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but I,

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I really don't think enough people
pay attention to 62% and 38%,

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and then all the minor
ones in between. You know,

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most traders are just dealing
with 50% or, or approximations.

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You know, if you look at an ne in chart,

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and let's say an average
day has 10 points,

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an average day now is more than 10 points,
but an average day has 10 points and,

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uh, four, four ticks per point.

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So an average day has 40 ticks
vertically from top to bottom.

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And if you look at all the reversals
during the day and you include,

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uh, higher timeframe charts,
and over the past several days,

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there are probably 40 FCI levels during,

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in the, in the course of a day.

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So that means it's just about everything
in the day is at a FCI price level.

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And FCI traders don't worry about

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things being precise. Let's
say the market goes, you know,

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four ticks beyond a 62%
retracement, they'll say, oh,

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well it hit a 62% retracement.

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So if every FCI line has a band
of four ticks above or below it,

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you know, you're talking about every
price on the chart as being a FCI level.

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Um, you know, so to me it's, it's
not helpful at all. The same with,

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well, you know, I don't know, I I
don't wanna talk too much about,

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um, all of, um, all of the things
out there that are fraudulent,

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but, you know, for the most part, Nazis
are fraudulent, G is fraudulent. Um,

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most oscillators are, are
fraudulent and, and useless.

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So, you know, to me, I I'm mainly
interested in is the market going up?

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Is the market going down?
How strongly is it going up?

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How strongly is it going down?

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I look at every bar in the chart
and at every instant during the day,

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I'm asking myself, are there more
buyers? Are there more sellers?

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When the bar closes, I ask myself,
above the high of this bar,

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are there more buyers or are there
more sellers at the low of that bar?

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What do I think is likely? Are there
more buyers or are there more sellers?

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And you know, if you think
about it, if you, if you,

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let's say the market's going sideways
and then above the high of the bar,

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you know, there are stock entry traders,

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there'll be bulls buying one
tick above the high of the bar,

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and there'll be bears selling one
tick below the, below the bar.

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The flip side of that is
limit order traders taking
the other side of the trade.

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So let's say we have a bar and
we know, and let's say it's a,

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looks like a buy signal. You know,

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there are bulls buying one tick
above the high, high of that bar.

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Well guess what?

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Half the time I'm selling with a
limit order at the high of that bar,

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taking the other side of the trade
betting that there are more sellers than

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buyers above that bar. And the
same is true below the bar.

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There are always gonna
be traders saying, oh,

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if it goes one tick below
this bar, it's going down.

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So there'll always be stop order traders
selling one tick below the low of the

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current bar. Well, half
the time, approximately,

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maybe more,

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I'm placing a limit order to buy the
low of the current bar betting that the

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bear breakout will fail. You
know, most breakouts fail,

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most stop orders in general, um, it's,

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it's the way traders should trade.

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Most traders starting out
should trade with stops.

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But most of the bars on the chart, a
stop order is a losing strategy, right?

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Most of the bars on the chart are
a fairly narrow range and buying

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above, selling below a losing strategy.

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And so for most of the bars on the
chart, I am doing the opposite.

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I'm looking to sell above bars.
I'm looking to buy below bars.

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If the market's in a trend, let's
another the story, you know,

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I am looking for stop entry trades
as well as limit order trades.

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If the market's in a trading range
and it's reversing up from the bottom,

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I will take a stop entry trade. But
during most of the bars on the chart,

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um,

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a trader stands to make more money using
entering with limit orders and using

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wide stops, wide protective stops,
and scaling in and trading small.

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So, so, um, what you're talking about,
I mean, that sounds a little bit like,

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um, looking at order flow,
but I'm guessing you don't
look at order flow, or do.

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You I do not. I have, um, a friend
who, um, runs one of my websites,

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the Brooks Trading course
web website, um, who, um,

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a year or two ago tried to sell me
on depth of market trading and order

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flows and all that. And, um,

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I told him that I don't need to
look at, uh, a depth of market,

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uh, or order flows. I can see I, I know
where the orders are, you know, uh,

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he's telling me about
iceberg orders. I don't,

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I know where the iceberg berg orders.

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Like I look at a chart and I know that
at a certain, I know where the support,

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I can see all kinds of, of support
and resistance during the day.

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And I know that there are huge orders
at all of those prices. I know I,

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I see them. I, I I, I don't need that
stuff to I, if you can read a chart,

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you know, you know all this stuff,
you know, if you can read a chart,

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you don't need indicators to tell that
the chart's about to reverse or a trend

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is about to resume. You can see
on the chart, you know, what,

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what traders are doing on the e mini,
every tick is important. You know,

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sometimes I hear somebody say, oh,
it's just noise. That's total nonsense.

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Anytime I hear a person says, oh,
the market, that's just noise.

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Anytime I hear that,

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I think either the person is ignorant
and they just haven't taken the time to

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understand what the market is
doing, or, um, they simply, they,

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they're either lazy or ignorant.
Everything matters. The compu,

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like the emin right now,

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probably 70% or more of the
trades are conducted by computers,

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and those computers are
operating based upon logic,

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algorithms and on ideas
that have been tested.

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And that's not noise. You know,
that's, it's all logic. So, you know,

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I think it's better to take, um, the other
side of that argument and say, there,

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there is no such thing
as noise. Everything that
happens happens for a reason.

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These computers are not
randomly spitting out trades.

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Every one of those trades by
every one of those computers,

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by every one of those firms is
being done for a logical reason.

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So nothing, nothing is noise. Everything
makes sense. And usually if you're,

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if you study charts and you understand
what every little bar is doing,

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every little tick is doing every, uh,

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every little piece of support and
resistance is doing, um, you know,

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you know where the orders
are and it doesn't take long
for you to see, you know,

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what they're doing. Are the orders
by orders? Are they sell orders? Um,

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so no, I pay attention to order flow.

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And, and so, so do you, um, are you,

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would you say you're more
of a discretionary trader,

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or are you using me mechanical rules
to pick your entries in, in exits?

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I'm entirely discretionary, you
know, but you know, I, I do things.

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I have a bunch of, I, I've accumulated,

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accumulated a lot of knowledge over
the years. Also, back on the nineties,

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I spent probably 10,000 hours
computer testing just about every

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idea I could think of. And I also
designed a lot of automated strategies,

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and I traded a lot of
automated strategies,

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and I decided that I'm just too
controlling and too obsessive

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to be an automated trader because
every time I'd see a signal trigger,

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I'd look at the chart
and say, well, you know,

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I understand that I tested it and
it looks like it's profitable,

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but there are things
going on here that, um,

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there are variables that
are that, that are not,

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that I did not consider in my system,
and I really should consider them.

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So I kept overriding all of my,
uh, systems. A lot of what I do,

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people can automate. And I
know, you know, I've, I've been,

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a lot of people have contacted me over
the years asking me either to work with

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them to help them automate or to tell me
that they've automated different ideas

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and they're doing really well with them.

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We'll have to talk further because I,

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I've run a <laugh> course on teaching
people how to automate their trading. So,

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uh, we'll have to talk
further on that. Um, right,

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so let's move on with the
show. So for those listening,

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for the first time we're
about to enter around,

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I'd like to call the fundamentals.

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And this is where I'll be asking Al
to tell us stories that will help you

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understand what makes him a
successful TraderR. So, uh,

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you've already given us
some of these insights,

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but I'm gonna ask you for a
few more. So things like, um,

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I suppose you've told us
your trading style, um,

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if you've got a particular strategy you
use, which it sounds like you use many,

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um, you've told us your timeframes,
winning percentages, uh, instruments,

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that's all been said, but what
about things like, um, draw downs,

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what to what's your typical sort of
draw down and maybe your risk to reward

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ratio?

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Okay, let me on drawdowns. I,
I don't get big drawdowns. Um,

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you know, so I, you know, in general,

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traders who have been doing this a
long time, uh, they have many accounts.

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They don't trade every account every day.

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I have many accounts and I trade many
accounts every day for different reasons.

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And some of them are linked together. Um,

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and there are other accounts
I don't trade. And, you know,

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in terms of actual dollars, you know,
I'm never going to be risking, you know,

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more than one or 2% of, um, my trading
accounts, uh, on any one trade.

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So, and I, you know, sometimes
I'll get two, two losers in a row.

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Rarely I'll get three losers in a row,
but, uh, I'm never gonna be risking, uh,

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all that much.

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And, uh, and in terms of,
um, risk to reward ratio,

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I suppose it's quite high then, or.

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Lemme just say something about that. I
think that's important. And you know,

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when I hear traders on television
talk about risk reward,

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it's really deceptive because
there are actually three variables.

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Risk and reward implies.
There's math. You know,

430
00:25:46,530 --> 00:25:50,210
how many dollars are you risking
dollars? That's an amount. How many, how,

431
00:25:50,210 --> 00:25:53,930
how many dollars are you trying to win?
That's an amount, that's Matt. But,

432
00:25:54,330 --> 00:25:58,750
you know, risk and reward is meaningless
unless you also talk about probability,

433
00:25:59,070 --> 00:26:02,670
right? Every trade, every
trade that every trader takes,

434
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:06,430
they're taking either four risk,
reward, or for probability.

435
00:26:06,620 --> 00:26:08,110
Nobody can get both.

436
00:26:08,350 --> 00:26:12,550
Nobody can get a great risk reward trade
that has a high probability of success,

437
00:26:12,750 --> 00:26:13,350
right?

438
00:26:13,350 --> 00:26:16,790
There always has to be a reason for the
somebody to take the other side of your

439
00:26:16,790 --> 00:26:21,670
trade. So if your trade has a really
high risk reward ratio, the other guy,

440
00:26:22,050 --> 00:26:24,950
you have very little chance of winning.
You have a very low probability,

441
00:26:25,090 --> 00:26:29,190
the person taking the other side has
a high probability of winning. Um,

442
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,950
in general, short of
timeframe, traders scalpers, i,

443
00:26:32,950 --> 00:26:35,790
I mostly scalp have a very
high winning percentage,

444
00:26:36,610 --> 00:26:40,790
but we end up taking lot of trades
that have very bad risk reward.

445
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,280
So in other words, very little
reward relative to the, to the risk.

446
00:26:44,460 --> 00:26:48,440
But if you win a high enough percentage,
you can offset the bad risk reward.

447
00:26:48,940 --> 00:26:53,470
And traders who are looking
for really high risk reward

448
00:26:53,470 --> 00:26:57,070
trades, you know, really great
reward, very little risk, you know,

449
00:26:57,070 --> 00:27:00,990
they're gonna lose most of the time,
right? So if, if you're risking,

450
00:27:00,990 --> 00:27:03,590
let's say you buy, you buy something,

451
00:27:03,590 --> 00:27:07,710
you buy Apple stock and you're
gonna risk one penny, right?

452
00:27:07,900 --> 00:27:12,710
You're not gonna lose very much, right?
So your risk reward ratio is fantastic.

453
00:27:12,710 --> 00:27:16,830
You're, you know, you're risking one penny
and you're trying to make $10, right?

454
00:27:16,830 --> 00:27:20,390
So a fantastic risk reward,
uh, set up on that trade.

455
00:27:20,580 --> 00:27:24,390
What's the probability of success?
You know, like, yeah, very low.

456
00:27:24,610 --> 00:27:28,270
One in a million. Yeah,
right? On the other hand,

457
00:27:28,430 --> 00:27:33,110
let's say you have a limit order to
take profit on, on Apple, and, um,

458
00:27:33,450 --> 00:27:35,510
and you've already made $7 on Apple,

459
00:27:35,810 --> 00:27:38,190
and the market gets really
close to your limit order,

460
00:27:38,330 --> 00:27:41,990
and now your stop is maybe
a dollar away, and, um,

461
00:27:41,990 --> 00:27:46,870
and Apple is now one penny
away from your profit target,

462
00:27:47,100 --> 00:27:50,700
what are you gonna do?
Okay, so at that instant,

463
00:27:50,850 --> 00:27:54,980
your reward is one penny, right? There's
only one penny left to your reward.

464
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:59,700
And at that instant, you're still
risking $1, you stop as a dollar away.

465
00:28:00,170 --> 00:28:04,340
Okay? So, um, you know, you're
risking, you know, at that incident,

466
00:28:04,340 --> 00:28:08,500
you're risking, um, a hundred
pennies to make one penny.

467
00:28:08,870 --> 00:28:13,060
So you have a horrible risk reward set
up. Are you gonna exit at the market?

468
00:28:14,370 --> 00:28:17,960
No, you're not. You're gonna hold.
So at that instant, you know,

469
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,080
you believe your probability of
success is really, really high,

470
00:28:21,170 --> 00:28:24,120
because otherwise you're
crazy. You know, you can't be,

471
00:28:24,120 --> 00:28:28,850
you cannot be risking a dollar
to make one penny unless

472
00:28:28,850 --> 00:28:32,970
you're very, very confident of,
uh, making a profit. But the,

473
00:28:32,970 --> 00:28:34,650
the point that I'm making is every trade,

474
00:28:35,410 --> 00:28:39,330
whenever I hear somebody talk about risk
reward, I think that they're really,

475
00:28:39,540 --> 00:28:42,410
uh, I don't, I don't, I wanna be polite.

476
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:46,010
I think they haven't thought enough
about, uh, what they're doing.

477
00:28:46,310 --> 00:28:50,610
You have to consider probability. And
sometimes you'll hear that, you know,

478
00:28:50,610 --> 00:28:53,730
I've watch options, action, and
sometimes they'll talk about risk reward,

479
00:28:54,070 --> 00:28:57,330
and then sometimes someone
will actually say, oh, yeah,

480
00:28:57,330 --> 00:28:58,410
but you're probably not gonna win.

481
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,490
What they're saying is
they are f probability.

482
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,870
Usually when I hear people
talk about risk reward,

483
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:09,780
they're implying that they're taking
the trade because they think there's at

484
00:29:09,780 --> 00:29:12,700
least a 50% chance of
winning. They never say that,

485
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:16,380
but that's what they're implying. So
whenever they're saying, oh, this,

486
00:29:16,380 --> 00:29:19,820
this trade is a good risk reward
tr set up. Well, I mean that,

487
00:29:19,820 --> 00:29:23,780
just saying that by itself is nonsense.
You have to talk about probability.

488
00:29:23,930 --> 00:29:28,420
What they're implying is
as a good risk reward set,

489
00:29:28,830 --> 00:29:32,740
uh, ratio, and it has a pretty good
chance of success. In other words,

490
00:29:32,740 --> 00:29:36,860
the probability is 50%, you
know, sometimes 40%, 50%,

491
00:29:36,860 --> 00:29:41,520
60% on any trade, 90% of all, uh,

492
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:46,360
bars on the chart, on any chart
you, you could buy or sell.

493
00:29:46,580 --> 00:29:51,120
And you have between a 40 and
60% chance of success when

494
00:29:51,140 --> 00:29:55,280
10% of the bars on the chart are
in a strong breakout up or down.

495
00:29:55,540 --> 00:29:57,560
And during those times, you know,

496
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,040
the probability is
overwhelmingly one direction.

497
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,000
If you're in a very strong bull break out,

498
00:30:02,180 --> 00:30:05,760
and it's very hard to make money selling.
But all the other bars in the chart,

499
00:30:05,810 --> 00:30:08,800
if it's a bull channel or a
bear channel or a trading range,

500
00:30:09,980 --> 00:30:14,760
you could buy or sell at any given
incident and have no worse than a

501
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:19,240
40% chance of making money and no better
than a 60% chance of making money.

502
00:30:19,870 --> 00:30:21,760
Okay. That's nice way to look at it.

503
00:30:22,070 --> 00:30:25,400
Yeah, I mean that's, that's the
map. And if you think about it,

504
00:30:25,690 --> 00:30:29,840
if you look at any bar on a five minute
chart, you know, let's say an chart,

505
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,040
thousands of contracts are being traded.

506
00:30:32,530 --> 00:30:35,080
So that means there are thousands
of contracts being sold,

507
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,000
thousands of contracts
being bought. And you know,

508
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,720
it's not like one side is smart
and the other side is stupid.

509
00:30:41,070 --> 00:30:45,320
Both sides believe they can make money.
And that's what I'm saying, you know,

510
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,160
during 90% of the bars on the chart,

511
00:30:47,260 --> 00:30:52,040
you can make money either buying or
selling if you structure the trade

512
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:52,770
correctly,

513
00:30:52,770 --> 00:30:57,160
if you use wide stops and scale in and
use sensible wide stops and scale in.

514
00:30:57,220 --> 00:31:00,040
And that's why there's so
much buying between taking,

515
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:04,160
taking place on every bar and every chart
because the computers are doing just

516
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,200
that. They're structuring
the trades. Um, well, they,

517
00:31:07,220 --> 00:31:12,080
the computers know they have between a
40 and 60% chance of winning and they

518
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:15,280
trade small enough so that they
can use wide stops and scale in,

519
00:31:15,340 --> 00:31:20,080
and that greatly increases their
probability of, um, of being profitable.

520
00:31:20,550 --> 00:31:23,560
It's at the price of risk
using wide stops, right?

521
00:31:23,900 --> 00:31:28,680
But if you structure your trades
correctly during 90% of the bars on any

522
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:32,200
chart, you can make money either
as a buyer or as a seller.

523
00:31:33,830 --> 00:31:37,480
Okay, cool. Hey, um, just, I'm just
gonna stop you for a second. Uh,

524
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,920
there's something going, something
sort of your, your microphone. Um,

525
00:31:41,070 --> 00:31:44,640
I wonder if there's a loose
connection or something. Uh,

526
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:48,840
I keep getting like this buzzing
and then like a beep and then, um,

527
00:31:49,590 --> 00:31:53,000
just now it's just flipped back
to having this background noise.

528
00:31:53,230 --> 00:31:55,680
That's my air conditioner.
Let me, lemme flip it off.

529
00:31:56,210 --> 00:31:56,800
Ah, okay.

530
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,240
You're, you're in the middle of
winter. I'm in the middle of summer.

531
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:00,440
<Laugh>. Yeah, I know.

532
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:01,880
Give a moment, lemme go. Turn it.

533
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,520
Off. You got an air conditioning on?
I've got, I've got a heat pump on.

534
00:32:12,500 --> 00:32:15,110
Okay. Just flip the square.
It might take a minute. Okay.

535
00:32:15,110 --> 00:32:18,190
To, and there's a, there's
a, there's still something,

536
00:32:18,190 --> 00:32:21,710
some sort of background noise cuz it
disappeared. It, you started off fine,

537
00:32:21,710 --> 00:32:23,310
then it went for the first bit.

538
00:32:23,310 --> 00:32:26,630
You had this background noise and then
all of a sudden it just stopped and then

539
00:32:26,630 --> 00:32:29,350
it's just come back in
the last one minute.

540
00:32:29,610 --> 00:32:31,190
The air conditioner just came on a minute.

541
00:32:31,190 --> 00:32:32,150
Ago. Oh, did it.

542
00:32:32,150 --> 00:32:32,510
Before,

543
00:32:32,510 --> 00:32:37,390
before we spoke I turned
the air conditioner on to

544
00:32:37,390 --> 00:32:38,150
make the house really,

545
00:32:38,150 --> 00:32:42,280
really cold so that the air conditioner
would probably not come on again while,

546
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:43,880
while I was speaking. Yeah.

547
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:44,340
<Laugh>.

548
00:32:44,340 --> 00:32:47,400
You know, it's, I don't know,
maybe 95 degrees out there.

549
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:51,720
So the air 95 degrees Fahrenheit, so
while the air conditioner came on.

550
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:52,553
Okay. Well.

551
00:32:52,570 --> 00:32:56,240
It, it should, I, I just flipped the
switch and sometimes a minute to turn off,

552
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,200
but that is the background
noise that's missing.

553
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:02,360
Oh, okay. That's alright. Hopefully,
um, you don't start sweating too much.

554
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,680
<laugh>. No <laugh>. Um, okay, I'll,
I'll move on with the next question.

555
00:33:07,970 --> 00:33:10,480
So what does your, uh,
typical trading day look like?

556
00:33:12,270 --> 00:33:17,210
Well, I, I get up about five
o'clock every morning and,

557
00:33:17,460 --> 00:33:20,850
uh, sometimes I'll lift some weights.
I have some weights in my, my office,

558
00:33:20,990 --> 00:33:24,370
you know, for several days a
week I lift weights. Um, uh,

559
00:33:24,370 --> 00:33:27,250
and then in between
sets of lifting weights,

560
00:33:27,250 --> 00:33:31,290
I'm writing a blog and, um, I,

561
00:33:31,290 --> 00:33:34,850
I write a blog from my websites about
what I think the training day will be

562
00:33:34,850 --> 00:33:37,650
like. You know, do, do I think today
it'll be a training range date?

563
00:33:37,650 --> 00:33:42,210
Do I think it will go up? Do I
think we'll go down? Um, and, uh,

564
00:33:42,350 --> 00:33:45,130
and then I'm looking at
charts. So I'm drawing lines,

565
00:33:45,130 --> 00:33:48,450
so I'm always drawing lines on charts.
So I'm always looking for measured moves.

566
00:33:48,710 --> 00:33:52,650
I'm looking for trend lines. I'm looking
at, um, the five minute moving average,

567
00:33:52,650 --> 00:33:56,010
the 60 minute moving average
plotted on five minute chart,

568
00:33:56,390 --> 00:34:00,690
and I'm looking at yesterday's high,
other significant prior highs and lows.

569
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:06,100
And then I'm looking at, you know,
yesterday, was it a trend day?

570
00:34:06,100 --> 00:34:09,180
Was it a trading each day? If it
was a trend day, was it climactic?

571
00:34:09,310 --> 00:34:11,420
So I'm trying to get a sense
of, you know, for example,

572
00:34:11,420 --> 00:34:13,620
if yesterday was a very
strong bull trend day,

573
00:34:14,570 --> 00:34:18,700
I know that there's a 50% chance that
there'll be followed through buying today

574
00:34:18,700 --> 00:34:21,460
on the open, uh, for
the first hour or two.

575
00:34:21,930 --> 00:34:26,180
I also know that there's
a 75% chance that the,

576
00:34:26,180 --> 00:34:29,500
today we'll have at least two
hours of sideways to down trading,

577
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:33,820
and it will start by the end of, uh, the
first, by the end of the second hour.

578
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:35,170
And finally,

579
00:34:35,170 --> 00:34:39,860
I know that there's only a 25%
chance if yesterday was a very strong

580
00:34:39,860 --> 00:34:40,620
bull trend day,

581
00:34:40,620 --> 00:34:44,700
there's only a 25% chance that today
is going to be a very strong bull trend

582
00:34:44,700 --> 00:34:48,900
day. So I'm, I'm looking at yesterday,
I'm looking at support and resistance,

583
00:34:48,900 --> 00:34:52,260
and I'm, I'm, uh, making, uh,
drawing lines on the chart,

584
00:34:52,260 --> 00:34:56,140
just trying to get a sense of what the
market is doing. When I was your age,

585
00:34:56,730 --> 00:35:00,420
a lot of times I would, uh, start trading
at five o'clock as soon as I get up.

586
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,700
And sometimes I would, uh,
trade into the evening.

587
00:35:04,610 --> 00:35:07,550
And there have been nights when
I've traded all night long. Um,

588
00:35:07,550 --> 00:35:11,030
back then I used to trade currencies
instead of four x, now I trade four x.

589
00:35:11,730 --> 00:35:15,510
But you know, now that I'm
getting to be an old guy and, uh,

590
00:35:15,510 --> 00:35:17,990
I don't need the money, um, I can, um,

591
00:35:18,750 --> 00:35:23,280
I can be more selective and I
have a, a more predictable, um,

592
00:35:23,570 --> 00:35:24,403
workday.

593
00:35:25,110 --> 00:35:27,640
Cool. Okay. And so in the beginning,

594
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:31,040
what do you think differentiated you
from the average mum or dad trader out

595
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,960
there? So what traits did you have
and what actions did you take?

596
00:35:34,710 --> 00:35:38,240
Well, early on, you know,
I applied my, you know,

597
00:35:38,240 --> 00:35:42,840
medical school approach to learning
and, you know, I just, you know,

598
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,360
read all that stuff and had
all these tutors and went all,

599
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,560
took all these classes and
everyone was pushing indicators.

600
00:35:49,220 --> 00:35:54,040
And to me it, it was just hiding the
underlying truth and the underlying truth,

601
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:57,840
this price, and I can see
it on a chart. So for years,

602
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:01,880
I just assumed that I had to have
all those indicators. And, you know,

603
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:03,480
10 years after 10 years of losing,

604
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:07,240
I got rid of all of them and I just
started looking at the bars. And you know,

605
00:36:07,240 --> 00:36:10,920
if you just print out a chart of
any market, at the end of the day,

606
00:36:11,070 --> 00:36:14,760
it's crazy to see, oh, it's going
up here. If I make, if I bought,

607
00:36:14,910 --> 00:36:16,720
I would make money. Oh look,

608
00:36:16,720 --> 00:36:20,400
it's now going down and it's going
down pretty strongly. If I sell here,

609
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,600
I'll make money. I don't need
indicators, I don't need a course.

610
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:27,320
I don't need anybody, you know,
a 10 year old kid can see that.

611
00:36:27,890 --> 00:36:31,400
So that became the basis
for my trading. You know,

612
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:35,040
just looking at what the bars are doing
and try to get a sense of, you know,

613
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:38,560
will the market go up? Will it keep
going up, will it go down? You know,

614
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:42,120
will it keep going down? And
um, and if it's all sideways,

615
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:46,160
what's the best way to trade it
in general? If it's sideways,

616
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:50,840
I'm looking to buy below prior lows,
buy more lower and get out quickly,

617
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:52,800
scalp. If it's going sideways,

618
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:56,960
I look to sell above prior
highs and sell more higher

619
00:36:57,540 --> 00:37:01,920
and then, uh, scalp. So buy low,
sell high, uh, scale in use,

620
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:03,240
wide stops and scalp.

621
00:37:04,580 --> 00:37:07,670
Cool. Okay. That's good,
good advice out there. Uh,

622
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,670
so if you're a retail
trader working a day job,

623
00:37:10,670 --> 00:37:13,830
what steps would you take to start
earning an income as a trader?

624
00:37:14,780 --> 00:37:16,470
People ask me that, um,

625
00:37:16,470 --> 00:37:20,790
fairly regularly and everyone's
aware that, you know, if your,

626
00:37:22,010 --> 00:37:26,240
uh, work hours totally overlap the
trading day, you cannot be a day trader.

627
00:37:26,620 --> 00:37:30,240
But a lot of people, the market opens,
especially if you work in the west coast,

628
00:37:30,340 --> 00:37:34,970
the market opens early enough so
that you can trade for an hour or two

629
00:37:34,970 --> 00:37:39,590
before, before you have to go
to work. And then alternatively,

630
00:37:39,590 --> 00:37:42,910
you could trade, you know, if you
have, uh, depending on where you are,

631
00:37:43,130 --> 00:37:47,270
you know, the four x markets are active
pretty much most of the time. Uh,

632
00:37:47,270 --> 00:37:50,750
the longest dead zone in the four x
market is right after the New York Stock

633
00:37:50,990 --> 00:37:55,350
Exchange closes. And, uh, but then
it picks up again, you know, uh,

634
00:37:55,350 --> 00:37:57,190
in the middle of the
night, middle of the night,

635
00:37:57,190 --> 00:38:01,790
California time around midnight.
So, um, you know, most traders,

636
00:38:01,790 --> 00:38:06,550
most traders can find hours
during the day when some market is

637
00:38:06,550 --> 00:38:06,830
open,

638
00:38:06,830 --> 00:38:11,030
open and they can find several hours
during the day when some market is open.

639
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:16,630
So I would just try to find a
block of time and start to trade

640
00:38:17,690 --> 00:38:21,760
if most traders when they're starting
out don't have a huge account. So,

641
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:25,520
you know, trading the e mini and
trading some of the European markets,

642
00:38:25,550 --> 00:38:30,440
some of the bond markets, they can't
do it. But, and also stocks, you know,

643
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:30,760
a lot of,

644
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:34,600
there are minimum account sizes in the
United States if you're gonna become a

645
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,840
day trader, if you're gonna
be placing a lot of trades,

646
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:40,720
you have to meet certain account
minimums. And then the alternative is, uh,

647
00:38:40,720 --> 00:38:43,200
four X markets. And four x markets,

648
00:38:43,230 --> 00:38:48,080
I think are a good starting place
for a lot of traders because you can

649
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,600
have a small account and you
can trade really, really small.

650
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,890
Yeah, and I think that's a, that's valid
point. I mean, I did start off, uh,

651
00:38:55,890 --> 00:38:59,570
with options and quickly moved into
Fourex after realizing that, you know,

652
00:38:59,570 --> 00:39:02,930
there was a lot of money, uh,
that you had to put at risk, um,

653
00:39:02,930 --> 00:39:05,570
initially just to, you know,
take even a few trades.

654
00:39:05,570 --> 00:39:06,890
And as soon as you start losing it,

655
00:39:06,890 --> 00:39:10,610
the emotional thing was quite difficult
for someone who's just starting out.

656
00:39:10,610 --> 00:39:13,490
So ended up moving to Fourex
where it, you, you can, you know,

657
00:39:13,490 --> 00:39:16,330
essentially practice and until you do, um,

658
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:20,370
feel more confident and get
control of those emotions. So, uh,

659
00:39:20,370 --> 00:39:23,050
can you explain to the listeners
your preferred trading strategy?

660
00:39:23,060 --> 00:39:27,130
So the ins and outs of how it works and
why you chose this type of strategy over

661
00:39:27,130 --> 00:39:27,963
the others?

662
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,370
Well, I, you know, I,
I'm always thinking of,

663
00:39:30,370 --> 00:39:31,810
of the market in terms of the cycle,

664
00:39:32,240 --> 00:39:36,370
that it's either in a trend or
in a training range and trend,

665
00:39:36,370 --> 00:39:40,170
it can be a very strong trend of breakout
or it could be in a channel. And so,

666
00:39:40,170 --> 00:39:44,010
you know, my favorite strategy is
just to see what the market is doing.

667
00:39:44,620 --> 00:39:48,450
Is it in a strong breakout? I
love strong breakouts, right? Uh,

668
00:39:48,450 --> 00:39:51,890
it's the highest probability time
for trading, but like I said,

669
00:39:51,890 --> 00:39:54,770
high probability means
smaller reward and less risk.

670
00:39:54,770 --> 00:39:56,570
By the time you've had a big breakout,

671
00:39:56,570 --> 00:39:59,970
there's probably not much left to
the move and you stop as far away.

672
00:40:00,310 --> 00:40:04,630
And then when the market starts to
enter a channel, I start to, uh,

673
00:40:04,630 --> 00:40:08,390
do limit order trades, uh, against
the channel. Once the channel, uh,

674
00:40:08,390 --> 00:40:10,870
starts to become broad. So, um, you know,

675
00:40:11,130 --> 00:40:15,150
I'm very happy trading in channels
as well. And then in a trading range,

676
00:40:15,180 --> 00:40:20,110
like I said, uh, I like trading ranges,
you know, buy low, sell high scalp, uh,

677
00:40:20,110 --> 00:40:24,670
I use wider stops I scale in.
Um, so for me, it doesn't matter.

678
00:40:24,670 --> 00:40:28,150
There's, the market can do one of
three things. It can be in a breakout,

679
00:40:28,530 --> 00:40:32,310
you know, no pullbacks. It can be in
a channel, which is a trend with, uh,

680
00:40:32,500 --> 00:40:34,470
a lot of pullbacks, or it
can be in a trading range,

681
00:40:34,470 --> 00:40:39,160
which is just the sideways channel.
And I don't, I don't have a favorite,

682
00:40:39,580 --> 00:40:43,280
you know, I, I I, I trade all of them and
I'm very comfortable with all of them.

683
00:40:43,540 --> 00:40:47,840
The key is recognizing, uh, which
one is going on right now. And,

684
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:52,360
and a lot of times, uh, the market's in
a transition, you can't tell. And, um,

685
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:53,680
anytime I'm confused,

686
00:40:53,950 --> 00:40:56,920
that's my radar telling me the
market's in a trading range,

687
00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:00,040
even if it doesn't look like a
trading range. If I'm confused,

688
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,520
it's in a trading range, and I'm
looking to buy low buy more, lower,

689
00:41:03,700 --> 00:41:05,800
I'm looking to sell
high, sell more higher,

690
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,560
and I'm looking to get out with
a quick profit. The one thing,

691
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:09,360
when I'm confused,

692
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:13,000
the one thing I'm confident of is that
the market's not gonna go very far.

693
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,840
Right? And if the market's
not gonna go very far,

694
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:20,000
I'm not gonna be swing trading. I'm, I'm
going to be looking for, for scallops.

695
00:41:21,290 --> 00:41:22,500
Cool. And, um,

696
00:41:22,500 --> 00:41:25,500
so if you had to dive a little
deeper thinking about a price chart,

697
00:41:26,090 --> 00:41:30,140
what three things would you recommend a
novice trader educate themselves on when

698
00:41:30,140 --> 00:41:30,973
reading a chart?

699
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:36,810
Well, first thing, and first thing
I would learn on the market cycle,

700
00:41:36,990 --> 00:41:41,330
you know, learn to be able to
distinguish a breakout from a, uh,

701
00:41:41,330 --> 00:41:46,330
channel and from a, uh,
trading range. And, um,

702
00:41:46,330 --> 00:41:48,370
I would get some sense of strength.

703
00:41:48,660 --> 00:41:50,970
So a lot of times the market
will be in a channel, so,

704
00:41:52,430 --> 00:41:54,850
and then it'll go back up.
Let's talk about a bull.

705
00:41:55,060 --> 00:41:57,690
So a lot of times it'll pull back
and then it'll start going up again.

706
00:41:57,690 --> 00:42:00,130
It'll pull back and it'll
start to go up again. You know,

707
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,650
I would pay attention to, um,

708
00:42:03,870 --> 00:42:07,130
how deep the pullbacks are. Are
they only lasting one or two bars,

709
00:42:07,130 --> 00:42:10,770
or are they lasting 10 or 20 bars?
In other words, are the, are,

710
00:42:10,780 --> 00:42:14,130
is the market making big
swings? If the pullbacks are,

711
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,730
when traders start to see pullbacks,
they're always trying to fade.

712
00:42:17,730 --> 00:42:19,370
They're always looking,
let's say a bull channel.

713
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:23,010
Once traders start to see pullbacks,
they start imagining tops.

714
00:42:23,780 --> 00:42:27,680
But if the pullbacks are only a bar or
two or three, and they're not very deep,

715
00:42:27,820 --> 00:42:31,440
you know, um, if you look at a higher
timeframe chart, 15 minute chart,

716
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:32,273
60 minute chart,

717
00:42:32,710 --> 00:42:37,680
that bull channel on the five minute
chart is in fact a very strong breakout

718
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:42,360
on the 15 minute or 60 minute chart.
So if the pullbacks are not deep,

719
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,880
if they're only lasting
a bar or two or three,

720
00:42:45,020 --> 00:42:47,240
and they're not falling down many points,

721
00:42:47,890 --> 00:42:51,500
even though you're seeing pullbacks only
trade in the direction of the trend,

722
00:42:51,730 --> 00:42:55,700
I think that's a really
common cause of losses.

723
00:42:55,700 --> 00:42:57,260
People start seeing pullbacks,

724
00:42:57,470 --> 00:43:02,380
so they start seeing reversals and they
start taking opposite. Um, you know,

725
00:43:02,380 --> 00:43:05,780
they start betting on, um,
the opposite direction.

726
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:10,660
One of the natural things that a beginner
is always going to focus on is risk,

727
00:43:10,660 --> 00:43:11,320
right?

728
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:16,300
You work so hard to save some money
so that you can start trading and the

729
00:43:16,300 --> 00:43:19,300
money becomes really precious.
And when they look at any trade,

730
00:43:19,720 --> 00:43:23,420
all they think about is
one variable risk. And I,

731
00:43:23,420 --> 00:43:27,140
I said that there are three
variables, you know, risk reward,

732
00:43:27,140 --> 00:43:30,100
you always hear people talk about
risk, reward, and then probability.

733
00:43:30,100 --> 00:43:32,340
And I think probability is the
most important of the three.

734
00:43:33,410 --> 00:43:37,110
But when a trader starts out, they,
uh, all they think about is risk.

735
00:43:37,110 --> 00:43:41,310
I cannot lose this money. You know, it's
like death, it's my death, you know,

736
00:43:41,310 --> 00:43:44,590
I'll die as a trader if I blow
this account. Uh, you know,

737
00:43:44,590 --> 00:43:46,950
my trading career is
over, my dream is dead,

738
00:43:47,650 --> 00:43:50,670
and they focus a lot on risk. And,

739
00:43:50,690 --> 00:43:53,070
and that's a mistake because
when you focus on risk,

740
00:43:53,300 --> 00:43:56,910
you're naturally gonna be looking for
trays that have the smallest risk,

741
00:43:57,070 --> 00:43:59,630
which usually means that
the market's going up,

742
00:43:59,630 --> 00:44:03,510
you're looking to sell because the stop
is just above the high of this bar,

743
00:44:03,750 --> 00:44:07,830
right? But you're ignoring
probability. And, you know,

744
00:44:07,830 --> 00:44:11,990
anytime you're taking a low risk trade,
you're taking a low probability trade.

745
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:17,190
So I think one of the mistakes
traders do is they tend to, um,

746
00:44:17,300 --> 00:44:22,190
look for reversals when the trend is
going on, and then another. So, uh,

747
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:27,190
so in other words, a trend
when when it's channeling up,

748
00:44:27,190 --> 00:44:30,870
it's gonna keep going up, 80%
of reversals are going to fail,

749
00:44:30,870 --> 00:44:34,040
and you're gonna lose money.
So yes, your risk is small,

750
00:44:34,180 --> 00:44:38,980
but if you're losing 80% of the time,
you're going to lose money on the other.

751
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,780
Let me just flip it over
and go to a trading range.

752
00:44:42,890 --> 00:44:46,500
A trading range is filled with two
legged moves, two legs up, two legs down,

753
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,180
and the second leg is
usually extremely strong.

754
00:44:49,610 --> 00:44:53,460
People are naturally hopeful.
Everyone's hopeful. I mean,

755
00:44:53,460 --> 00:44:57,700
it's a survival skill. And I think
it, um, I think it was bred into us,

756
00:44:57,700 --> 00:44:59,340
you know, if, um, you know,

757
00:44:59,340 --> 00:45:02,140
if you're a caveman and you
didn't find any food today,

758
00:45:02,140 --> 00:45:05,260
and you just give up hunting,
you're gonna die. But if you keep,

759
00:45:05,260 --> 00:45:07,500
if you persistently keep looking for food,

760
00:45:07,500 --> 00:45:11,660
eventually you'll find food and
you'll survive. And the, the, the,

761
00:45:11,660 --> 00:45:16,260
the people who are hopeful get selected
out and their genes become, um,

762
00:45:16,730 --> 00:45:20,460
a very big part of our, our population,
I think people are naturally hopeful.

763
00:45:21,810 --> 00:45:25,510
And because of that, you know, when
the markets in a sh trading range,

764
00:45:25,540 --> 00:45:28,990
I think traders always hopeful that,
oh, look how fast it's going up.

765
00:45:28,990 --> 00:45:31,830
It's gonna be a breakout and
we're soon gonna get a trend.

766
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:36,590
So they buy a very strong bull
bar at the top betting on that.

767
00:45:36,810 --> 00:45:38,950
The trend is going that
it's the start of a trend.

768
00:45:39,220 --> 00:45:43,270
They sell a very strong bear bar
at the bottom thinking that, wow,

769
00:45:43,270 --> 00:45:46,790
this time for sure we're going to break
out and this is gonna be a big trend.

770
00:45:47,330 --> 00:45:51,470
But if you're buying at the top,
you're stop as far away, risk is big.

771
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,950
If you're selling at the bottom, you
stop as way at the top of the range,

772
00:45:54,950 --> 00:45:59,350
your risk is big and your
probability is low, right?

773
00:45:59,350 --> 00:46:04,110
So here you have a trade with
big risk and low probability.

774
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:05,400
Um,

775
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:09,830
so do I want to sell that strong bear
bar at the bottom or buy that strong bbar

776
00:46:09,830 --> 00:46:12,110
at the top? No, I'm doing the opposite.

777
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:16,230
If I see a trading range and I see a
strong bull bar at the top, I'm selling,

778
00:46:16,410 --> 00:46:20,750
you know, if it has a, if it closes
on it's high, I'm selling, right?

779
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:25,510
Because, you know, the guy who's buying
has a big risk and low probability.

780
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:29,350
So if I'm doing the opposite, I have
much less risk and a high probability.

781
00:46:30,230 --> 00:46:34,900
So I think that is another problem
that traders face. You know, um, I I,

782
00:46:35,130 --> 00:46:40,100
I have what I call the 80%
rule on my inertia rule

783
00:46:40,370 --> 00:46:44,420
that 80% of the time the market's gonna
continue to do what it's been doing.

784
00:46:44,710 --> 00:46:48,420
If it's trending, 80% of reversal
attempts are going to fail.

785
00:46:48,590 --> 00:46:53,020
So you should not be looking for
reversals. And if it's in a trading range,

786
00:46:53,990 --> 00:46:56,930
the market has inertia, it's
going to continue in the range.

787
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:00,370
80% of breakout attempts
up or down will fail.

788
00:47:00,740 --> 00:47:04,130
So instead of betting that a
breakout will finally succeed,

789
00:47:04,260 --> 00:47:05,690
no matter how strong it looks,

790
00:47:05,950 --> 00:47:09,570
you have a better chance of making money
if you start looking for trades in the

791
00:47:09,690 --> 00:47:10,523
opposite direction.

792
00:47:11,700 --> 00:47:15,950
Cool. And then just on there, so, um,
so you talk about probability a lot,

793
00:47:15,950 --> 00:47:19,270
and to be fair, it's the first time
that anyone's actually mentioned, well,

794
00:47:19,470 --> 00:47:22,310
actually maybe it's the second time
anyone's mentioned on the show, um,

795
00:47:22,310 --> 00:47:26,870
the significance of probability. And so,
so when you were automating your, uh,

796
00:47:26,870 --> 00:47:27,990
strategies back in the day,

797
00:47:28,210 --> 00:47:32,040
was that something you would calculate
on a regular basis within each strategy?

798
00:47:32,770 --> 00:47:33,560
Oh, you know, it,

799
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:37,860
as soon as you do an automated
trade and you get a result,

800
00:47:37,860 --> 00:47:42,540
you print out the result, you're gonna
see percent win percent loss. So,

801
00:47:42,540 --> 00:47:45,860
you know, you quickly,
um, see probability,

802
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:49,780
but I still think traders don't really
pay much attention to it. I think,

803
00:47:50,010 --> 00:47:53,140
I think when you're, when you're
doing those, uh, automations,

804
00:47:53,140 --> 00:47:56,500
you tend to focus on risk and
reward. You know, how much should I,

805
00:47:56,500 --> 00:47:59,500
how much should I win, how
much do I lose? But, um,

806
00:47:59,820 --> 00:48:03,820
every trade has three variables,
not two, not risk reward.

807
00:48:03,820 --> 00:48:05,660
It's risk reward and probability.

808
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:10,540
And I think understanding probability is
crucial to being a trader. Like I said,

809
00:48:10,930 --> 00:48:15,800
during 90% of the bars in the chart,
you can make money buying or selling,

810
00:48:16,140 --> 00:48:20,760
and the probability of making money,
if I buy it any instant, right?

811
00:48:20,830 --> 00:48:24,040
I have and pick, let's say I
pick a reward equal to my risk.

812
00:48:24,370 --> 00:48:29,080
So let's say I'm buying Apple and
I'm risking $1 to make $1 to make

813
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:32,480
$1 at any bar on the chart, you know,

814
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:34,840
for 90% of the bars I have, uh,

815
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:39,080
between no worse than a 40% chance of
making a dollar before losing a dollar,

816
00:48:39,300 --> 00:48:44,040
and no better than a 60% chance of
making a dollar before losing a dollar.

817
00:48:45,180 --> 00:48:48,240
And as a trader, you're trying to, uh,

818
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:52,760
structure a trade to make the probability
better or make the reward a little bit

819
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:56,320
better. And, you know, that's,
that's the art of trading. You know,

820
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:58,320
you're always, you're trying to,

821
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:02,320
you're trying to work with the three
variables to structure a trade that gives

822
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,800
you the best, uh, trader's
equation. You know, I,

823
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:06,760
I talk about the trader's
equation all the time,

824
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:11,660
and it incorporates the three
variables, you know, is, um,

825
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:16,540
you know, is the probability of
winning, um, time. Well, I don't,

826
00:49:16,850 --> 00:49:18,340
I don't know, it'd be complicated to say,

827
00:49:18,340 --> 00:49:21,540
but basically you wanna
make sure that you know,

828
00:49:21,540 --> 00:49:25,100
your risk and reward and
probability makes sense. You know,

829
00:49:25,100 --> 00:49:28,660
your probability of winning
times your risk has to be, uh,

830
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:32,780
significantly greater than your
probability of losing times to your, uh,

831
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:37,500
how much you're risking on the
trade. So, okay. If that makes sense.

832
00:49:37,530 --> 00:49:38,020
Yeah.

833
00:49:38,020 --> 00:49:41,060
Cool. Alright, so we're gonna move
on and to the next part of the show.

834
00:49:41,060 --> 00:49:43,180
So this is a part I'd like
to call the technicals,

835
00:49:43,180 --> 00:49:46,580
and I'm gonna run through 12
quickfire questions to help you,

836
00:49:46,580 --> 00:49:50,380
the listeners out there understand what
it takes to become a successful TraderR.

837
00:49:50,590 --> 00:49:52,380
So are you ready, Al?

838
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:53,473
Yes, I am.

839
00:49:53,810 --> 00:49:57,580
Okay. So how long did it take you to
go from trading newbie to consistently

840
00:49:57,580 --> 00:49:58,413
profitable?

841
00:49:58,630 --> 00:49:59,980
It took me 10 years.

842
00:50:00,890 --> 00:50:04,620
What's your mental approach to trading
and what special techniques do you use to

843
00:50:04,620 --> 00:50:05,700
keep those emotions in check?

844
00:50:06,410 --> 00:50:09,700
Well, I think to be a successful
trader, you know, I, I talk about the,

845
00:50:09,700 --> 00:50:11,460
I don't care position size.

846
00:50:12,130 --> 00:50:17,020
I think the single best thing that a
trader can do is get to the point where

847
00:50:17,020 --> 00:50:21,310
they truly don't care and let, so if
you're paper trading, you don't care,

848
00:50:21,310 --> 00:50:23,110
but you lie to yourself all the time.

849
00:50:23,110 --> 00:50:26,510
I used to lie to myself all the time and
I paper trade, you know, and I'd say,

850
00:50:26,510 --> 00:50:27,080
oh, I, I really,

851
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,960
really wouldn't have taken that trade
so I'm gonna cross that one out. Or I,

852
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:30,480
I should have,

853
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:33,240
I really would've taken this trade and
it shouldn't need to be a good winner.

854
00:50:33,240 --> 00:50:36,760
I put that in. Um, so it's really
easy to lie when you're paper trading,

855
00:50:37,910 --> 00:50:40,770
but I think it's better to
trade real money, for example,

856
00:50:40,770 --> 00:50:43,210
Forex is a good way to do it because, um,

857
00:50:43,210 --> 00:50:47,090
you cannot lose a lot of money
if you trade small, right? Um,

858
00:50:47,220 --> 00:50:52,170
so the best thing to do is get to a
position size where you truly do not

859
00:50:52,170 --> 00:50:52,450
care.

860
00:50:52,450 --> 00:50:57,370
Get down to the I do not care size
so that you can remain objective and

861
00:50:57,370 --> 00:51:00,970
do everything that you're supposed to
do and just practice doing the right

862
00:51:00,970 --> 00:51:05,050
thing. Most traders quickly can figure
out what they have to do. I gotta buy,

863
00:51:05,050 --> 00:51:07,610
I gotta sell, I gotta get
out, you know, I gotta get in.

864
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:13,100
And it just takes a lot of time
practicing doing what you should be doing

865
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:14,860
and, you know,

866
00:51:15,450 --> 00:51:19,060
I would do it with real money so that
there is a little bit of pain if you lose

867
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:23,880
and there's a little bit of happiness
if you win. So, um, I would,

868
00:51:24,110 --> 00:51:28,760
I would, I would trade the I don't
care size, whatever size that is. Um,

869
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:29,593
I would trade it.

870
00:51:29,780 --> 00:51:32,280
And turning off your,
um, turning off your, uh,

871
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:36,320
trade screen is sometimes helpful and
there was some advice that was left by

872
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:39,720
another, um, interviewee, uh, on the show.

873
00:51:39,730 --> 00:51:42,800
So keeping that away from your
view so you can't actually see it.

874
00:51:42,980 --> 00:51:45,840
And so you dunno how much you've got
at risk and if you're all you know,

875
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:49,160
is if you're up or down. Um, I tried
that the other day and it seemed to work.

876
00:51:49,780 --> 00:51:53,320
May interrupt for a moment. Another
thing I sometimes all traders should do.

877
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:54,760
A lot of traders exit too early.

878
00:51:55,890 --> 00:51:58,980
I tell 'em if they structure a pretty
good trade, and they have it on,

879
00:51:58,980 --> 00:52:02,260
let's say, on the five minute chart. You
know, place a bracket, order in there,

880
00:52:02,260 --> 00:52:05,060
place the logical stop place,
the logical profit target,

881
00:52:05,060 --> 00:52:07,980
maybe two times greater
than the risk, and, uh,

882
00:52:07,980 --> 00:52:12,730
go for a walk and come back
in an hour. And, uh, you know,

883
00:52:12,730 --> 00:52:14,210
if he structures your trade correctly,

884
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:17,370
I think you'll be surprised to
find out that over time, you know,

885
00:52:17,370 --> 00:52:20,010
if you do it 10 times, you're gonna,
you, you're going to make money.

886
00:52:20,720 --> 00:52:23,870
So that's basically the equivalent
thing of your saying what you're saying.

887
00:52:23,870 --> 00:52:25,470
Yeah. You know, don't look at it.

888
00:52:25,820 --> 00:52:27,750
Yeah. Walk away. And, uh,

889
00:52:27,750 --> 00:52:31,230
I had another guy on the
show that literally trades
in the morning, that's it.

890
00:52:31,450 --> 00:52:34,270
And he walks away. Well, he
doesn't, he turns off everything,

891
00:52:34,270 --> 00:52:36,150
doesn't have anything on
his phone that he can check.

892
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:41,070
It literally sort of excludes himself
from his computer screen so he doesn't

893
00:52:41,070 --> 00:52:44,830
know until the next day. And so
whatever happens, happens. Um, right.

894
00:52:44,830 --> 00:52:46,270
So what's your favorite entry setup?

895
00:52:47,220 --> 00:52:49,070
Well, as I said, you know, I like,

896
00:52:49,500 --> 00:52:52,590
I think of the market in
terms of the market cycle, uh,

897
00:52:52,830 --> 00:52:55,750
breakout channels and
trading ranges. And I don't,

898
00:52:55,750 --> 00:52:59,470
I don't care which part of the cycle
it's in, you know, you know, I, I'm,

899
00:52:59,470 --> 00:53:02,750
I'm happy and I enjoy trading all
of them. You know, on a given day,

900
00:53:02,750 --> 00:53:06,110
the breakout may be so exceptional that
I'm really excited and happy about it.

901
00:53:06,110 --> 00:53:06,870
Other days,

902
00:53:06,870 --> 00:53:10,910
the trading ranges might be so predictable
that I can make it an incredible

903
00:53:10,910 --> 00:53:15,110
amount of money by just buying below
prior lows, selling about prior highs.

904
00:53:15,170 --> 00:53:18,350
And then other times the
channels are really broad. Uh,

905
00:53:18,350 --> 00:53:19,750
let's say it's a bull channel.

906
00:53:20,140 --> 00:53:23,350
I can sell every new high scale
in higher and do really well,

907
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:27,840
or buy 50% pullbacks of, uh, of
the prior leg and do really well.

908
00:53:28,090 --> 00:53:32,350
So for me, I don't have a favorite,
you know, I'm just, you know, I just,

909
00:53:32,580 --> 00:53:35,430
I trade whatever's in front
of me and I never, um,

910
00:53:35,460 --> 00:53:38,990
I never worry about what is
not in front of me, and I'm,

911
00:53:38,990 --> 00:53:41,190
I'm comfortable trading
whatever the market is doing.

912
00:53:42,540 --> 00:53:45,750
What strategies do you use to
exit of manage active trades?

913
00:53:47,470 --> 00:53:51,200
I usually enter, I
usually, um, limit orders.

914
00:53:51,380 --> 00:53:53,720
And based on the trader's equation,

915
00:53:53,830 --> 00:53:57,800
I know what the minimum reward
I have to make on a given trade

916
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:02,870
to take the risk that, that I'm taking,
you know, going to a trade, I know what,

917
00:54:02,870 --> 00:54:03,710
what my risk is.

918
00:54:04,010 --> 00:54:07,990
The first thing I think about on any
trade is where do I have to put my stop?

919
00:54:08,270 --> 00:54:12,590
Right? And a lot of beginners
put stops that are way too close.

920
00:54:12,750 --> 00:54:17,310
Right. And, you know, that's a,
that's a, a really costing mistake.

921
00:54:17,410 --> 00:54:18,870
You know, I try to be objective.

922
00:54:18,870 --> 00:54:21,230
I look at the chart and I
know where my stop has to be.

923
00:54:21,990 --> 00:54:24,850
And once I know where my stop has
to be, that's my initial risk.

924
00:54:25,240 --> 00:54:27,890
I know where my initial
profit target has to be,

925
00:54:28,010 --> 00:54:32,090
given that my probability of
making money is between 40 and 60%.

926
00:54:32,580 --> 00:54:37,330
In general, I want my reward to
be at least two times my, um,

927
00:54:37,330 --> 00:54:40,290
initial risk. Once the
trade starts going my way,

928
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:43,890
I ignore initial risk and
I look at my actual risk.

929
00:54:44,070 --> 00:54:47,730
How many ticks did I
actually have to risk to, uh,

930
00:54:47,730 --> 00:54:51,170
stay in the trade at this
point? And then I try to, uh,

931
00:54:51,170 --> 00:54:55,370
take a reward equal to two
times that, uh, actual risk.

932
00:54:55,740 --> 00:54:58,570
If the probability of making
profit is really, really high,

933
00:54:58,570 --> 00:55:03,190
if I'm trading during a strong breakout,
I'm not gonna get, uh, two times,

934
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:06,190
uh, a reward equal to two times risk.

935
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:10,630
Usually if I have a high probability
trade, I have to take a lower risk reward,

936
00:55:10,630 --> 00:55:15,110
which means I usually have to
exit with, um, a reward equal,

937
00:55:15,110 --> 00:55:18,390
equal to risk instead of
two times risk. Remember,

938
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:22,110
if you're taking a high probability
trade, you have to give something up.

939
00:55:22,330 --> 00:55:24,550
And that's something
is always risk reward.

940
00:55:24,720 --> 00:55:28,670
So if you have a very high
probability trade, you have to, uh,

941
00:55:28,670 --> 00:55:32,710
go for a relatively smaller
reward relative to your risk.

942
00:55:33,940 --> 00:55:37,190
Cool. And what's your recommended
must-read trading book?

943
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:42,930
Well, I've written many, I've written
many. I've written four books. Uh,

944
00:55:42,930 --> 00:55:47,530
that three volume set that I, uh,
wrote several years ago, um, has a,

945
00:55:47,530 --> 00:55:52,250
it's a pretty good summary of how I
view the market. And then beyond that,

946
00:55:52,420 --> 00:55:56,610
um, in terms of, um, a fun
book, you know, that, um,

947
00:55:56,610 --> 00:56:00,870
that that fictional book about, um, Dan,

948
00:56:00,870 --> 00:56:03,470
what's it called on the
Jesse Livermore book?

949
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:06,070
Ah, yeah. Um, the, ah,

950
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:09,150
as been mentioned on the
show before many times, um,

951
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:11,750
of a stock market.

952
00:56:11,750 --> 00:56:12,590
Remini remini.

953
00:56:12,590 --> 00:56:13,070
Reminisce.

954
00:56:13,070 --> 00:56:16,390
Yeah. Stock, stock, you know, stock
trade or something like that. Yeah. That,

955
00:56:16,390 --> 00:56:20,870
that was a fun book. And then beyond
that, you know, every book has something.

956
00:56:21,130 --> 00:56:22,430
And, uh, I, I don't,

957
00:56:22,430 --> 00:56:25,720
I don't think there's anyone book that's
so much better than all the others.

958
00:56:26,790 --> 00:56:27,280
Okay.

959
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:30,920
If there's one thing you would recommend
any retail trader to spend the next

960
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:34,280
month mastering, what would it be? Why
and how could they go about mastering it?

961
00:56:35,450 --> 00:56:38,640
Um, I would, uh, first
thing I would say is decide,

962
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:42,070
figuring out where stops
have to be. You know,

963
00:56:42,070 --> 00:56:45,830
look at any chart and if I buy
here or if I sell right here,

964
00:56:45,950 --> 00:56:50,110
where do I have to put my stop? And
once you know where your stop is,

965
00:56:50,110 --> 00:56:52,590
then you know what your
position size has to be,

966
00:56:52,590 --> 00:56:55,950
because you never wanna risk more on,

967
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:58,990
on a trade than you typically
are comfortable risking.

968
00:56:59,240 --> 00:57:03,230
So the first thing I would just look at
any chart, okay, I'm buying here. Wow,

969
00:57:03,230 --> 00:57:07,470
that stop has to be far away if
I buy here. Well, that's, that's,

970
00:57:07,470 --> 00:57:12,350
that's the stop you have to use and
you have to trade small enough so that

971
00:57:12,350 --> 00:57:15,790
you're risking no more than you
do on any other trade. But that,

972
00:57:15,790 --> 00:57:17,870
that would be the first thing
I would do, is, you know,

973
00:57:17,870 --> 00:57:21,830
trying to get some sense of where
I have to put my stop, where,

974
00:57:21,830 --> 00:57:23,070
where's the sensible stop.

975
00:57:23,980 --> 00:57:27,270
I really like that. That's a
really good bit of advice. Um,

976
00:57:27,270 --> 00:57:31,670
what trading related internet resource,
like b bloomberg.com, do you always use.

977
00:57:32,300 --> 00:57:37,070
Zero? Nothing, because, yeah,
I, um, in terms of fundamentals,

978
00:57:37,070 --> 00:57:41,350
there was a show on in the United
States, um, I forgot what it was called,

979
00:57:41,350 --> 00:57:45,410
money in motion or something
a few years ago about, uh,

980
00:57:45,750 --> 00:57:50,690
for trading. And, you know,
the guy or the gal would say,

981
00:57:50,690 --> 00:57:55,370
I'm gonna buy the dollar
yen, or, um, because, um,

982
00:57:55,510 --> 00:57:56,130
you know,

983
00:57:56,130 --> 00:58:00,410
Japan is doing such and such and the
United States is doing such and such and,

984
00:58:00,430 --> 00:58:05,090
and also, or, or it's at a 50%
retracement. And I say, wait a minute,

985
00:58:05,390 --> 00:58:08,960
you're not buying because of that stupid
thing you just said about fundamentals.

986
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:11,080
You're buying because
it's at a 50% retracement.

987
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:15,760
Every piece of fundamental information
is already baked into price.

988
00:58:16,630 --> 00:58:21,110
Every institution knows the fundamentals
far better than I can any, ever know,

989
00:58:21,110 --> 00:58:25,710
any fundamental. So, you know, someone
say, I'm gonna sell Brexit because, um,

990
00:58:25,710 --> 00:58:29,190
you know, uh, I'm gonna sell the
British Pound because of Brexit, um,

991
00:58:29,190 --> 00:58:33,670
because of Brexit. You know, that's
nonsense. I'm not gonna do that. Um,

992
00:58:33,770 --> 00:58:35,870
I'm gonna look to sell pullbacks maybe,

993
00:58:36,850 --> 00:58:40,510
but I'm not simply just gonna
sell because of Brexit. Right.

994
00:58:40,940 --> 00:58:43,750
I don't care about fundamentals.
I, I don't care at all.

995
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:45,590
They're totally baked into the market.

996
00:58:45,810 --> 00:58:49,310
All the institutions know them much
better than I could ever know them.

997
00:58:49,700 --> 00:58:52,310
I don't care. But the, on the other hand,

998
00:58:52,410 --> 00:58:55,550
the institutions cannot
hide their information.

999
00:58:56,700 --> 00:59:00,970
If the institutions as a group
think that the market is going down,

1000
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:04,530
that the market's gonna go down
and I'm gonna look to sell.

1001
00:59:05,340 --> 00:59:09,970
If more dollars think that
the market's gonna go up, uh,

1002
00:59:09,970 --> 00:59:12,530
the market's gonna go up and
I'll see that, and I'm gonna buy.

1003
00:59:12,860 --> 00:59:16,970
So I don't care what the fundamentals
are, you know, all the time, you know,

1004
00:59:16,970 --> 00:59:20,050
you'll see stocks with bad
earnings reports and they go up,

1005
00:59:20,050 --> 00:59:22,580
or stocks with good earnings
reports when they go down,

1006
00:59:22,790 --> 00:59:27,100
or some fundamental thing that looks
terrible. Japan's economy might be bad,

1007
00:59:27,100 --> 00:59:31,580
but the end starts going up. So I
don't care what the fundamentals are.

1008
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:34,380
All I, I'm in this to make money, alright,

1009
00:59:34,380 --> 00:59:38,540
I'm in this to make money and you know,
I, and you know, I, if the market,

1010
00:59:38,540 --> 00:59:42,220
if if the chart in front of me, if
the price is going up, I wanna buy,

1011
00:59:42,430 --> 00:59:45,540
if the chart in front of me is going
down, I'm gonna, I'm gonna sell.

1012
00:59:45,770 --> 00:59:47,580
I don't care why I don't,

1013
00:59:47,580 --> 00:59:50,780
I don't care if it's due to some kid
in Brazil eating an ice cream cone.

1014
00:59:50,810 --> 00:59:54,500
I don't care. You know, I just care
about, you know, can I make money?

1015
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:58,020
And knowing the fundamentals has
nothing to do with me making money.

1016
00:59:58,890 --> 01:00:01,540
What's the biggest mistake
most retail traders make?

1017
01:00:02,770 --> 01:00:07,520
I think the biggest one is, uh, focusing
on risk. All I think about it is,

1018
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:10,680
oh, I work so hard to get this
money. If I lose this account,

1019
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:13,120
my wife will kill me, or my
husband will kill me. And, uh,

1020
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:17,440
they'll never be allowed to trade
again. And so, uh, they focus on risk.

1021
01:00:17,590 --> 01:00:19,240
I think that's the single biggest mistake.

1022
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:21,440
They end up using stops
that are too tight.

1023
01:00:21,790 --> 01:00:25,240
They end up taking trades that
have really low probability.

1024
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:29,010
What's your preferred
broker and trading platform?

1025
01:00:30,210 --> 01:00:34,500
Yeah, I, um, yeah, I can
tell you that I use, uh,

1026
01:00:34,500 --> 01:00:38,820
interactive Brokers a lot. I use Trade
Station a lot, but I'm really not, uh,

1027
01:00:38,820 --> 01:00:42,940
up to date. Uh, I'm not
qualified to, uh, you know,

1028
01:00:42,950 --> 01:00:47,260
ex to say what, what is the best program
out there? Um, I think both of them,

1029
01:00:47,500 --> 01:00:51,900
trade Station in in particular
has a lot of legacy issues. Uh,

1030
01:00:51,900 --> 01:00:54,540
they have very old software
that they keep trying to fix,

1031
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:58,820
and instead they should just throw out
the entire thing and, um, you know,

1032
01:00:58,820 --> 01:01:00,340
rewrite it for Windows 10.

1033
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:04,460
But I understand the economic
reasons why they do not, you know,

1034
01:01:04,460 --> 01:01:06,140
it's good enough, you know, but there are,

1035
01:01:06,140 --> 01:01:09,580
I'm sure there are a lot of others
that are, are, that are equally good.

1036
01:01:10,710 --> 01:01:14,210
And if you could leave our listeners with
one piece of advice, what would it be?

1037
01:01:15,690 --> 01:01:20,360
Uh, trust yourself. You know,
learn to, uh, to ignore everybody,

1038
01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:23,880
all the experts on television and
just trust yourself. You know,

1039
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:25,920
develop the ability, uh,

1040
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:30,640
to get confident about what you're
reading on the chart and also realize that

1041
01:01:30,810 --> 01:01:35,040
no matter how confident you are, 40%
of the time, you're gonna be wrong.

1042
01:01:35,610 --> 01:01:39,400
So be always entirely open to
the exact opposite of whatever,

1043
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:41,680
whatever you believe. And do not
be surprised when it happens,

1044
01:01:41,690 --> 01:01:44,520
because it's gonna happen
at least 40% of the time.

1045
01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:48,490
Okay. We'd like you. So
this is the last question.

1046
01:01:48,490 --> 01:01:51,090
We'd like you to give us the
bones of a full trading strategy.

1047
01:01:51,090 --> 01:01:54,410
So the entry set up, stop loss, take
profit targets, market timeframe.

1048
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:58,330
Some of our listeners can try it at
home. What have you got for us there, Al?

1049
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:00,730
Okay, I'm gonna give you one, uh,

1050
01:02:00,730 --> 01:02:04,490
which is probably the easiest
to visualize as I'm speaking.

1051
01:02:04,940 --> 01:02:06,890
So let's say the Forex market,

1052
01:02:07,470 --> 01:02:09,970
the Euro versus the
dollar is totally flat,

1053
01:02:10,510 --> 01:02:13,730
and then it breaks out and rallies, uh,

1054
01:02:13,730 --> 01:02:18,610
a hundred pips over the course of
the next 30 minutes, right? What,

1055
01:02:18,610 --> 01:02:20,080
what do I think is gonna follow?

1056
01:02:20,210 --> 01:02:24,280
Do I think it's gonna reverse or do I
think it's gonna go up probably at least a

1057
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:28,880
60% chance that it's gonna go up for a
hundred pips at some point later in the

1058
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:33,160
day? So I'm gonna buy for any reason,
I'll buy at the market, right?

1059
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:35,120
I'll buy below the low of the prior bar.

1060
01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:38,720
I'll buy above the high of the prior
bar. I'm gonna buy for some reason,

1061
01:02:39,420 --> 01:02:43,480
but my stop is gonna be a hundred
pips away. It's gonna be below the,

1062
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:44,100
below that bar,

1063
01:02:44,100 --> 01:02:48,160
and I'm only gonna buy that a hundred
pip breakout if it's well above the highs

1064
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:50,120
of, uh, the past day or two or three.

1065
01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:52,440
I wanna make sure that it's
truly broken out of everything.

1066
01:02:52,810 --> 01:02:56,800
So we have a hundred pip breakout. I
buy, my stop is a hundred pips away,

1067
01:02:58,020 --> 01:03:00,760
and, um, it's a high probability trade.

1068
01:03:01,010 --> 01:03:04,920
So I need to get a reward equal
to at least one time my risk.

1069
01:03:05,410 --> 01:03:09,520
So I'm going to initially plan
to take profit of a hundred pips.

1070
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:11,640
Let's say we have a 20 pip pullback,

1071
01:03:11,740 --> 01:03:15,640
and then the market starts to go up
strongly again. Well, at that point,

1072
01:03:15,650 --> 01:03:18,280
my actual risk turned
out to be only 20 pips.

1073
01:03:19,050 --> 01:03:23,120
So mathematically I could exit
with a, uh, 20 pip profit.

1074
01:03:24,190 --> 01:03:26,900
However, because of the
size of the breakout,

1075
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:29,420
I'm pretty confident that I have a,

1076
01:03:29,420 --> 01:03:33,180
a reasonable chance at making a hundred
pips mathematically. I can get out,

1077
01:03:33,180 --> 01:03:36,140
I can get out at a hundred pips
if my, excuse me, at 20 pips,

1078
01:03:36,140 --> 01:03:40,140
if my actual risk turned out to be only
20 pips. It's a high probability trade.

1079
01:03:40,430 --> 01:03:45,380
So exiting with a reward equal
to risk makes sense. But, um,

1080
01:03:45,380 --> 01:03:49,060
I'm gonna get a hundred pips. I'll try
to sit patiently and get a hundred pips.

1081
01:03:49,060 --> 01:03:52,780
I'm just say one thing about
that. I had a friend years ago,

1082
01:03:52,780 --> 01:03:56,300
I used to trade with him online for
several years, maybe 50 years ago.

1083
01:03:56,640 --> 01:04:00,820
And he would take a trade like that and
he would place his stock in a hundred

1084
01:04:00,820 --> 01:04:04,260
pips below, he'd place his limit
order in a hundred pips above,

1085
01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:08,380
and then he'd go take his mother out to
the doctor's office for a couple hours,

1086
01:04:08,380 --> 01:04:11,140
two or three hours, or
he'd go out on the lake in,

1087
01:04:11,270 --> 01:04:14,380
in canoe for a couple of
hours, and then he'd come back.

1088
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:18,100
And part of it was he had things to do,

1089
01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:23,060
and part of it was he wanted to make
sure that he didn't interfere with what

1090
01:04:23,060 --> 01:04:26,580
he knew was a logical thing to
do when he put the train on.

1091
01:04:29,390 --> 01:04:33,200
Cool. And, um, just on
that, so, so the, so the 20,

1092
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:37,760
so say it retrace 20 perps, is that
you'd say you'd enter there or even,

1093
01:04:38,420 --> 01:04:41,280
and then you'd, you'd sort of enter
at the, at the end of the retracement,

1094
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:44,680
or you're saying you'd enter at
the a hundred pipp mark regardless?

1095
01:04:45,110 --> 01:04:48,560
Well, let's say the market is racing
up. Usually I'm buying at the market,

1096
01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:49,380
right?

1097
01:04:49,380 --> 01:04:53,720
But let's say just turn on the screen or
having to look at the chart and it's up

1098
01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:55,800
a hundred pips and I
decide to buy right there,

1099
01:04:56,020 --> 01:05:00,920
and the instant I buy it starts
to sell off and 15, 20, 30 minutes

1100
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:04,840
later it's down 20 pips, right?
Yeah. Um, and I've already bought,

1101
01:05:05,130 --> 01:05:07,480
so right now I have an
open loss of 20 pips.

1102
01:05:07,850 --> 01:05:11,770
My stop is still down there
at a hundred pips. However,

1103
01:05:12,100 --> 01:05:16,930
if the market starts to go up and it goes
above my entry and it goes up 20 pips

1104
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:20,880
more, right? Mathematically
at that moment I can exit.

1105
01:05:21,020 --> 01:05:24,240
And if I take that trade a hundred
times and manage it that way,

1106
01:05:24,510 --> 01:05:29,440
I will make money because I have
a reward equal to my risk and my

1107
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:34,440
probability is 60% or
higher. Mathematically, that
is a sound way to trade.

1108
01:05:35,090 --> 01:05:36,080
So you can,

1109
01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:40,760
you can exit with a reward equal to
your risk as long as the probability is

1110
01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:43,800
60% or higher. And if you're buying, uh,

1111
01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:45,720
the market during a very strong breakout,

1112
01:05:45,940 --> 01:05:50,380
the probability is 60%
or more that you'll,

1113
01:05:50,470 --> 01:05:54,620
if you go for any risk
and, and, uh, any reward,

1114
01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:58,060
and the risk is equal to the, to the, um,

1115
01:05:58,710 --> 01:06:00,940
if the risk and reward are
equal, you'll make money.

1116
01:06:01,390 --> 01:06:06,320
So it doesn't matter if you're
going for a 10 pip profit u risking

1117
01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:11,080
10 pips, it doesn't matter if you're
going for a 50 pip profit risking 50 pips,

1118
01:06:11,260 --> 01:06:15,640
you still have a 60%
chance of, um, making, um,

1119
01:06:16,090 --> 01:06:16,910
uh,

1120
01:06:16,910 --> 01:06:21,590
making your profit target before
your stop is hit so mathematically,

1121
01:06:21,590 --> 01:06:24,350
if you, if you take, if you
manage it that way every time,

1122
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:28,630
go for a reward equal to your actual
risk, uh, it's a profitable strategy.

1123
01:06:29,530 --> 01:06:33,170
Makes perfect sense. Thanks Al.
Um, right before we wrap up,

1124
01:06:33,170 --> 01:06:35,370
what's the best way for
traders to get hold of you.

1125
01:06:36,450 --> 01:06:41,400
Through one of my websites like
brooks trading course.com or

1126
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:45,880
brooks price action.com? Usually I
get so many emails now that, you know,

1127
01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:49,360
I have, uh, people handle most of the, um,

1128
01:06:50,490 --> 01:06:54,860
emails. But you know, if you're, if you're
signed up for one or the other site,

1129
01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:56,980
you know, you're able to post questions.

1130
01:06:56,980 --> 01:07:01,420
And I try to answer the questions online
because a lot of times people ask a

1131
01:07:01,580 --> 01:07:01,970
question,

1132
01:07:01,970 --> 01:07:05,700
I what was happening with the emails is
someone would ask a question two days

1133
01:07:05,700 --> 01:07:05,940
later,

1134
01:07:05,940 --> 01:07:08,660
someone would ask the same question two
days later someone would ask the same

1135
01:07:08,900 --> 01:07:10,260
question and you know,

1136
01:07:10,260 --> 01:07:14,300
it made more sense just to have people
post the questions on the website and

1137
01:07:14,300 --> 01:07:17,820
then I answer the question on the
website so that everyone can see it.

1138
01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:23,090
Cool. Oh, a big thank you to,
to al for sharing with us today.

1139
01:07:23,090 --> 01:07:25,450
Everything we've discussed
here, along with all the links,

1140
01:07:25,450 --> 01:07:27,330
are gonna be on the
show notes to find them.

1141
01:07:27,330 --> 01:07:32,290
Simply search for al in the search box
on 52 traders.com. Until next time,

1142
01:07:32,290 --> 01:07:35,490
I wish all my listeners a
trading happiness and success,

1143
01:07:35,490 --> 01:07:38,210
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1150
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1151
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1152
01:08:04,490 --> 01:08:08,890
there you have an interview done
and dusted from 2016 off all things.

1153
01:08:09,150 --> 01:08:11,050
Now we've got a much more recent,

1154
01:08:11,050 --> 01:08:15,560
like literally two or three weeks ago
I recorded a charting session with Al

1155
01:08:15,820 --> 01:08:18,680
and this is gonna blow your mind.
Trust me, it is gonna blow your mind.

1156
01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:22,960
It is absolutely awesome. He reads
literally every single candle.

1157
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:25,440
So everything you've heard here
in the interview we talk about,

1158
01:08:25,440 --> 01:08:29,440
we break it down and even more, we go
onto so, and there's so much more stuff.

1159
01:08:29,530 --> 01:08:31,520
It is well worth going and
checking that out. Now,

1160
01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:34,760
there's a link below the video
here if you are on the, uh,

1161
01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:37,440
YouTube channel or if you're listening
in the podcast, go and check it out.

1162
01:08:37,440 --> 01:08:39,960
Link into the description and
that video will be on that page.

1163
01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:43,400
Other things to remind you of are
the new things happening in the robot

1164
01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:45,480
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Go and check that out.

1165
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:49,120
Three new things up there at the
moment. I know you're gonna love them.

1166
01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:50,440
I'm not gonna tell you
much more about them.

1167
01:08:50,440 --> 01:08:54,200
Just go and check them out after this.
And the other two things are, yeah,

1168
01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:57,520
trading View Pro, pro, go and
check out Black Bull Markets.

1169
01:08:57,520 --> 01:08:58,680
They have a special offer.

1170
01:08:58,680 --> 01:09:01,720
There's a link under the video
to that as well as for Del Crest.

1171
01:09:01,810 --> 01:09:05,480
If you want to take part in that 50 K
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1172
01:09:05,480 --> 01:09:08,200
you get a chance to win a thousand
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1173
01:09:08,550 --> 01:09:11,640
cost you nothing, uh, you
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1174
01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:16,160
livestream channel and do your
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1175
01:09:16,370 --> 01:09:18,920
So if you're looking to grow a YouTube
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1176
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:21,040
it could be perfect
for you. Alright folks,

1177
01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:25,840
thank you for listening and watching and
we'll see you in this our Brooks video,

1178
01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:28,480
which is, I've gotta tell you,
it is awesome, awesome, awesome.

1179
01:09:28,480 --> 01:09:31,400
You've gotta go and check it out.
So we'll see you there. Otherwise,

1180
01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:33,600
we'll see you in some other
video here on Trading Up.

