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What's up trade And welcome to another installment of the Trading Up podcast.
I'm the host Cam Hawkins and today we've got Charlie from Westwater Associates
on the show.
Now Charlie is just 20 years old and managing funds from his
office in Canary Wharf, which is one of the trading hubs in London. Uh,
he is actually one of the, uh,
well he got trained up by a past guest and in fact,
as a business partner of a past guest on the show,
you're gonna find out who that is when you start listening to the interview. Uh,
and a couple of his colleagues, he mentions in the show as well,
we're also gonna look to get one of those guys on.
So we are putting a whole piece of the puzzle together here for you all. Uh,
now, um, he is a smart money concept style trader. In fact,
he's come up with his own version of it.
You're gonna find out how that works and more about that and this show.
But he also breaks down everything on a price show.
And this is probably one of the, I suppose,
craziest videos I've seen in terms of the knowledge that he brings to the table
is just a 20 year old is ridiculous. Uh,
and we go through his entire trading week at the fund, what it looks like. Uh,
and it's all broken down. We've got fundamentals in there, we've got, uh,
correlations in there. We've got smart money concept trading in there.
It's everything. So you gotta go and check that out after the show. Uh,
before we get into the show, there just a few things.
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All right folks, here we are on trading out.
We've got Charlie in the house here from Westwater Associates and he
was introduced to me by his colleague who, uh,
is Alex George who's been on the show. If you go back to episode 167, uh,
he works with Alex and uh,
there's another guy as well that we'll get on in the future.
But welcome to the show Charlie.
Appreciate it. Thank you very much for having me on.
Well, to start off with, um, I'm gonna find out all about,
well I wanna find out all about what, uh, got you into trading,
how you got started and your journey today.
So let's dive into that to start off with.
Yeah, no, so like, I mean, it is been pretty recent. I mean,
I started trading about three, three and a half years ago. Um,
I was introduced to it to obviously my, my, well my colleagues now, um,
Matt and Alex who um, originally introduced me to trading.
I learned off of them to uh,
Pacific style that obviously I'm pretty sure will touch base on anyway. Um,
and yeah, no,
the way we got obviously into the office and we grew obviously the businesses
and the way we sort of turned trading institutionally and we just honed in our
skills, um, was we went for a business, um,
just for like a business opportunity.
We took it with both hands and obviously one thing led to another and yeah.
Okay. Well let's, let's dive into some detail on that. So,
so to start off with like, so you,
you knew Alex beforehand or you you met Alex along the way?
So I, I knew Matt beforehand personally. Um, obviously my business partner.
Um, and then Matt was already in business with Alex. They run like a,
a trade education firm and that's basically how I was introduced to training to
begin with. Um, I'd always been obviously aware of financial markets cause my,
um, my mum was obviously a trader. Um, so she was obviously she worked,
um, out in a firm out in Hong Kong. Um,
I couldn't give you too much details about it. She's uh, obviously that,
that that's all out the pitch now.
But I was always aware of the financial markets was always had that little,
that little like interest in it. Um, so I thought, well, why not give it a go?
I mean, like I was, I was 17 at the time so I was just a sponge for information.
I thought there's no real risk of me taking this on.
It's information I might learn at a thing or two. And, and yeah, no, this,
it obviously put a lot of opportunities on my lap. So.
That's interesting that your mum was a trader. I mean, what does that do as a,
as a kid growing up, if you, especially your mum, you know, she's usually dad,
but especially your mum being a trader. What, what, what was that like? I mean,
she sat the screens, you know,
in 24 7 when she was at home or was it very much It was.
Before I was born, so I would, I couldn't,
I couldn't tell you a lot about the experience of me being in and around it cuz
it was before I was born. Right. Um, but yeah, I wouldn't know honestly.
But I mean, it must run in the family, but again, you, you'd never put a,
like obviously, um, you, it's more likely a man obviously,
like it's more likely your dad, but no, yeah, it was, um, my mom was a trade.
I've only found that out recently as well. Oh right. But yeah, no.
Right. So, um, so you,
you started training with Alex and he was training you up or were,
were you getting external.
Trainings? Yeah, so essentially what it is is that uh,
they introduc me to back when SMC was really, really hot.
Cause obviously now it is like considered the new retail or anything like that.
Um, all, all of them, um, its kind of come, come the new retail. Um,
but back when it was hot around about two and a half years ago,
I was industry obviously smc, trading on lower timeframes, this,
that and the other. And, and yeah, they really trained me up to,
to view the market from that perspective. Um,
and then it went from there and it had to become a sponge for more and more and
more and more and more information. Um,
and really just wanted to get as consistent as I possibly could in
approach, um, and have like the, the correct ideology,
like how try and find my personality in trading because as,
as cyclical as markets are, I believe that trading is quite linear.
And as you mature as a person, I was still really,
really young at the time and my trading back then was really immature.
If I looked to, back to 18 months ago, my training was really, really immature.
My, my approach was quite immature.
And as I've got a little bit older and a little bit more experience in around
like, um,
the institutional industry dealing with a lot older people than me and having to
really speak my way into rooms, um,
it's quite mature me as a person and it's had a knock on effect on my training
as well. So that's,
that's what obviously Alex and Matt introduced me to and it really just took off
from there. Cause it was just who, cause of who I am.
So, so what I'm interested in is, I mean, a lot of people, you know,
in your situation where you're just starting out, uh,
would typically be doing it on their own and they wouldn't have somebody like
working with them closely who is already doing the walking the walk and
mm-hmm. , you know,
it's almost like your mates with a mentor sort of thing. Yeah. So,
so therefore you're gonna have an added advantage. Did you, were you, like,
were you able to, were you sitting down with these guys,
like to do the training or was it, how did that sort of, So it was.
Just for, it was through Zooms, it was through pre-recorded videos,
so it was technically by myself. Right, okay. Um, and it,
it took around about a year and we got into business together.
So like basically me, me, Matt and Alex, we, we, we came to,
I went to them with a business proposal and that's how I kind of got to a
personal level with Matt and Alex. I knew Matt personally anyway, um, from,
from a completely different subject through like a hobby. Um, but when it,
when that started out, my trade in, it was literally just through Zooms.
It was through pre-recorded videos,
just really just picking their brains and obviously going back and forth.
And then the business proposal was completely unrelated to trading. Um,
obviously got me in a room with them and I'm,
I sort of really start to gauge and understanding a little bit more. And,
and yeah, that's, that's really how I.
So so how did, so how did they, so how did the training go?
So like when you first do dove into the markets, I mean,
what was it like for you?
Uh, inconsistent and immature in my opinion, um, my approach.
So obviously later on down the line, fast forward,
going back about eight months now,
I was introduced to another person called Andy. Andy Bridges a beau, wonderful,
wonderful feller. And it's been a massive help and a massive stepping stone in,
in, in, in my trading. Um,
I was introduced to him and we really sat down and was like, What's,
what's the issue? Cause obviously, you know yourself when you interviewed Alex,
the fund had just come about and obviously the, we started, we created on,
on unconventional hedge fund and there was this, this,
there was discrepancies in approach and I was just like, well,
I'm starting to see an inconsistency cuz I,
I'd been consistent on a live account, I'd been consistent with funded accounts,
however, now I'm,
I'm messing around with client funds and it was a completely different ball
game. I thought, yeah, I've done live accounts. It's, it's sort of similar.
Everything else, it can't be much different.
But this is what I was saying about how like, uh, like my trading was, it was,
I believe it's very linear. And as I matured as a person,
I matured as obviously a young man. So did my trading. And I,
we really sat down and we just thought, okay, cool, why is this not working?
Why is it not consistent?
And it was really because my approach at the,
like my approach towards the markets was really quite subjective.
So because my, my approach wasn't consistent, my results wasn't consistent.
And when I, when I break down some chart, you'll see that my trades,
especially from last week, Last week was probably my best week in the market.
So it's really quite well timed. Um,
but you'll see that every single position is the same.
And that's why I could cause my consistency and approach means there's
consistency in results. And, and that's really where I've gone from an smc,
which I believe is quite subjective. And I had to really,
it didn't protect my psychology behind it because it's completely different
ballgame when you're messing around with clients and you've got,
you've gotta pay out client cuz it's quite, it's very institutionalized.
Once it was institutionalized it was, something had to change,
something had to shift, something had to move and, and yeah, no, that's.
So, so at the point that the guy, so at the point that guy, I mean cuz just,
this is how it's coming across and I just wanna make be clear on this.
So the point that the guys were getting you on the fund, you know, you,
they were confident in your own ability to be able to like, grow the accounts.
Yep. Um, a rate that, that was a,
but you weren't happy with what you were doing.
I weren't happy with the.
Results. You weren't happy with, with the results. And,
and can you give us sort of like a,
a before and after kind of picture based on the results, I mean, what they,
what you were,
what they were happy with from a fun point of view and what you weren't were
receiving after you sort of made some changes and got more consistent. Of.
Course. So for me, so obviously I am a business as well and I'm also a trader,
so I have to draw that line and I have to be very cautious of not crossing it.
So obviously from a business perspective, the business was making money,
but from my perspective as a like as, as a,
as a director of the company, it's not making enough. And because I,
I know that internally because I know I'm not maximizing what I'm actually doing
in the markets. I'm not maximizing my return. I know I could better it.
I know I could better my approach,
approach because I had to protect my psychology at the end of the day. Um,
so from a fun perspective, um, I can show you quite like, uh,
we was quite immature when we first set it up. So originally we were offering,
so we'd tie in our clients for it on a yearly basis and we would offer 7% a
month. Uh, for the first two months, uh, we returned 5%.
So we didn't reach my target.
So the company didn't earn any money because how we,
how the company earns money basically is we have to reach our target before
we earn anything. Yeah. So if you are a yearly client,
we would have to achieve that 7%. Anything over that, we, that's what,
that's our margin. So we weren't making any money. So like, yes,
we was consistent, you made 5%, 5%, but the company wasn't making any money.
So something had to change something, something had to change something,
it had to be maximized. And then obviously fast forward, uh, so too much,
so nine months on, uh, it's been a breeze. We've been able to return clients,
what we quoted them. Um, and it shows quite, uh,
it shows the maturity of the company and ourselves as well.
Then percentages come down to around about 3% now.
So it showed the margins have increased, the tradings increased,
the returns have increased, and now it's, uh,
it's a lot more professional because if you are an institutional investor or
just a generally high net worth investor, if you, if I have a conversation,
if you sit down and say 7%, you're gonna run, you're gonna run,
You're not gonna believe me, you're not gonna believe a word I say. So it is,
that's realistically from a business perspective,
it wasn't optimal and that's the best word for it.
It wasn't perfect and it wasn't optimal. And from a trading perspective,
I knew I could do better.
Yeah. And so, and so you were the,
you were the primary one doing the majority of the trading or were were other
people helping you get this uh, seven plus percent a month?
Mm So, so the,
basically the way we set it up and basically the structure of it now is we have
strategists, which is like the Matt and Alex. We have different strategists.
We have, we have, um, they're like our analysts, our strategists,
and then obviously I'm head trader.
And then obviously we have another trader on that basically gives the,
the final yes or no because the,
the best way of putting it was the reason why like trade desks
are so, um, are so consistent,
so profitable is cause they have all these different ideas coming from
everywhere because my trading style might be different to your trading style.
So when I'm doing really, really bad, you could be doing really,
really well in the markets.
So having all the pressure to perform and perform like
to perform and bring in the capital and bring in the returns on one person isn't
sustainable. Because I know with my, cause I run two strategies in the market,
I know when it's really, really good and I know when it's really, really bad.
So lala bad months, I know when to turn one strategy off,
I know when to turn one strategy on.
So within their months it could be a case of, okay, cool, um,
Matt's given me a couple of ideas and like I have different, uh,
Alex has given me an idea and I,
there's all these different strategies coming along and all these different
market perspectives that might actually work in the months that I'm not
performing. So that's why we have different inputs, different outputs,
and then there's a final yes or no to, to the probabilities. And basically we,
I get on a piece of paper, this is what we like, this is,
this is why it lines up, have a look at these levels, I like it from here,
here and here, all the trigger. And that's basically how we run things.
Okay. So sort of like a group consensus in a way,
but you are the head trader to to, Okay, cool. And so,
so does that mean that your, you manage to get, uh,
your smart money concept style of training mm-hmm.
at a level higher than Alex and and Matt before,
uh, to, to get the head, head trader sort of thing? Or,
or are they at that point where the strategy piece of the puzzle is more
important than the, the actual execution on a smart money concept?
SMC kind of entry.
In, in my opinion, between obviously the three of us,
we were better in elsewhere. So the company, so for me, I'm very, um,
I'm not a, um, I'm very in like, uh, what's the word? Not internal. Um,
I'm an introvert. Ah, yeah, I'm an introvert, right, Okay.
Where Alex is an extrovert. So when it comes to like, obviously going to,
to events or just generally networking with potential investors or talking to
people, I'm really, really bad at that cause I'm quiet, I'm quite an introvert.
And if, if, if I'm not talking about,
if I'm not talking about something that I enjoy or a hobby or something I'm good
at or we're not having a conversation or giving advice,
I'm quite bad at obviously networking.
So there's no point obviously Alex taking the front of the training and me going
doing something that I'm not very good at. So we,
we all kind of sat down and was honest with ourselves and said, Look,
this is one aspect of the business. This is another aspect,
this is another aspect. Who's best suited for this?
Who's best suited for this and who's best suited for this?
And that's why it's really just blown up over the last six months and
everything's been running at absolute optimal temperature because we're all
doing everything that is best suited for us. Yeah. That's The best.
Way of putting it. Yeah, it's really interesting cuz,
I mean for me it's sort of like, you know, you think, well people, you know,
starting up a fund and that the most difficult thing is gonna be making sure
that the fund makes money and, you know, being good in the markets,
uh, or better than, or your case, you know,
better than 5% the month in the markets, better than 7% in the month. Um,
. Um, so that, so that for you guys is not even the,
the hardest part that's almost like, that's just sort of bread and butter and,
and why is it that this style of trading that you've come up with and um,
why is it that you're so easily able to get that 7%
mm-hmm. or is it easy and be able to do it on a consistent basis,
which a lot of people.
Cause a lot of people struggle with, and in my opinion, um,
it's because they don't have a consistency in approach and they don't have the
data.
So my two strategies are backdated at least three years.
So I have the data through and through month for month, day on day,
why it works and what time it works.
And it has tailored risk management models. So I know where,
where my edge is in the market.
A lot of people are quite subjective in their approach.
They don't know where their edge is and it kind of makes them hold back on fir
and on the trigger or they,
they take a punt at things and there's no real consistency in how you view the
market. And in my opinion,
the worst that I've seen a lot of retail traders and people that struggle with
generally finding consistency is they pay too much attention to what other
people do for me. If you are, if you're joining in a d group, if you're joining,
if you, if you're following someone for advice,
if you're following someone for analysis, why?
Because they're not gonna be around there forever. And, and, and their,
their outlook on the market could be completely different to yours.
The the best thing you can do is mute it, find your way,
find your personality in the market, just like finding your feet as a man.
Obviously everyone, everyone goes through it all, all young nerds go through it.
When you're obviously maturing, you find your feet, who you stand for,
your ethics, everything like that, training's a lot like that. And you,
you'll always find that on every single podcast, whenever you go on a trader,
they'll always say that trading is a lot similar to life. And it is, it's so,
so true.
And that's why I think that a lot of people don't find consistency and find it
really hard is because they pay too much attention to other people.
And that's the world we live in, unfortunately. Mm-hmm.
Yeah. And look, know,
because that's what sort of what I was trying to get at at the start whereby,
you know, you seem to get, you're like, Okay, I'm gonna learn this, uh,
this stuff that guys are feeding me smart money concepts, whatever it is,
I'm not gonna veer off and, you know,
get distracted by something I'm seeing from somebody else.
And which where a lot of people get, get, uh, sidetracked.
Now you did talk about at the start that you found SMC quite subjective
mm-hmm , what, what parts of it were subjective for you?
So for me, all the, um, all the lower timeframe stuff. So we've moved in.
So when we came into high interest rate market, which is the start of the year,
all of my data that I had on SMC in my approach on trading was in low interest
rate markets. I'd never experienced the high interest rate market.
I'd never done any bad testing or any da any data collection in the high
interest rate market. So I had no idea how my strategy would perform it.
And I was getting absolutely battered. I was getting battered,
my head was losing. I, I was, I was experienced 5, 6, 7 row losses in a row,
which everyone experiences, but it's not good enough for me.
We were institutional, i i we have to pay clients every single Friday.
Every single Friday clients have to get paid. And especially as a new fund,
we don't have that liquidity already locked with like, like,
like the reason why we're so comfortable now is because we have eight months or
10 months, sorry,
10 months worth of months of profit that we can kind of sit back and relax and
go, Okay, cool, we've got a little bit of margin to work.
We've got a little bit of a cushion now. We didn't have that at the start.
So a lot of tension, a lot of pressure on,
on to perform and there was no data. So it was,
it was very hard for me to go, Ah, okay, yeah, yeah, I've done,
I've seen this before because I hadn't,
the markets were moving completely different high interest rate market.
And that's where I was, I was introduced to macroeconomics and now, um,
I'm like literally halfway through doing my cfa, I know all the contents,
I know everything regarding economics and you'll see my outlooks.
And the reason why my consistency in approach and massively for me is all I'm
doing now is pairing strong currencies against weak currencies and then using my
two tailored strategies to lean into two different technical areas.
I wasn't doing that. I was literally just smc. Okay, cool.
There's inefficiency here. I've seen a five minute break. A one minute break.
Okay, cool. And then I was using like a fire, a fire pip stop loss,
which wasn't really tailored to me. You, which wasn't really, um.
Was that fixed across all markets? Was it five pips?
Yeah, it was, it was literally, um, and not necessarily,
it was quite subjective below,
like strong and low highs that I believe were strong and low highs,
but there's no such thing in a five minute timeframe in my opinion. Um,
so that was where it was quite subjective in approach because it wasn't the same
trade over and over and over again.
You'll see what I mean when I come to obviously the charts that every single
position that I took is one or two strategies and they're exactly the same.
Right. Okay. And so, so if you had to sort of, I suppose,
give an estimate as to how many strategies you were using before that shift,
how many were there?
And I mean, it was just, I mean if you, In my opinion, in my opinion,
SMC is a concept. I didn't have a strategy. A strategy in my, in,
in my opinion is that you have ed data,
you have a catalog of what, when it's good, why it's good, uh, what session,
it's good, um, what days it's good, what months it's good. And there's, there's,
there's a simple process. Everyone has their,
their trading rules or their trading models and it's, it's quite subjective.
It's, it's like a top down analysis.
You've gotta see a one minute break on a four out where, and like, but every,
if you look at it from a picture perspective, everyone close like you can,
The reason why it's con, when I say it's consistent or subjective,
if you can't close your eyes and picture your strategy through and through what
happens step by step, it's not a strategy in my opinion. It's,
it's a concept and it's just guessing in my opinion. That's where,
that's where the subjectiveness and the, uh, consistency in my opinion comes.
And, and how were you able to, so you talked about the sky, uh, Andy Bridge.
Bridge, Yeah, yeah. How were we, how were you able to, um,
identify that this was the, this was the issue, like the,
the subjectiveness and then to try and rectify that so that you had
more of.
A Oh, it was through a journal. Cause obviously I had a,
I had a whole log int MT four because I can't run from it. It's, it's all live,
it's all abook, you can't run from it. So it's all there.
And we went through step by step by step, Okay, cool. This is,
this is the picture on the charts. Okay, cool. This is what happens.
This is what happens, what happens. And we are like, well,
these trades are not the same. This, it's not the same trades. Okay, cool. And,
and, and you,
so you sort of start to notice that they're all completely different.
So how can you start to better something that there's no base or no underlying
you,
you haven't built anything from like an ideology or something you want to test
or whatever else. It's literally just guesswork. And,
and that's why you kinda have to throw it out the window and if it's not
consistent, you can't build it up from that.
If there's no base that you wanna do and start on a single time.
That's why a lot of people just start on a on and just trade on one timeframe,
like the M 15 and you can kind of start from there because then you can
literally,
all you gotta do is just start from the M 15 and notice patterns that you like
and you can build from there. But if you are, if you are on like the six hour,
three hour, and that's what I was doing. I had every,
I had every single timeframe possible and every single trade was different.
So when you're going through the log loss, loss loss, loss loss,
all the losses were different. Where now all my losses are the same.
Right. Okay. Sam?
Yeah. Okay. And my winners were different, but now all my winners are the same.
And, and was was Andy, was he a, uh,
a trader himself or was he more of a sort of mindset?
Yeah, so he is been in the market for over 10 years now. Um, also have my,
so he's more of a, uh, he was more of a retail trader. Ums done it all his life.
Um, and he's like pretty much retired now.
You wouldn't be able to find him on social media. He's, um, he's like,
How did you, how did you.
How did you stumble across him?
He's on Instagram. He's on Instagram Trader Bridges,
and that's how I got in contact with him. Ah, boy. Um, and we've kind of,
this is why, this is why networking is so,
so good because when you first and foremost not, I hate this word,
but become a person of value or just like a general business owner,
or if someone looks at you and sees value,
it's very easy to get conversation and work towards something because you sort
of can find common ground straight away and sort of go, Okay, cool,
you have something, I have something.
Let's work together and sort of see root the benefits at both. Yeah.
And that's really where it kind of kick started and we sort of like, Oh,
I'm having issues with this. And he is like, Okay, cool.
And we really got on this person. We sort of the same, We,
we were the same people.
So it was easy for us to sort of find a discrepancy because we both had the same
ideologies on life,
therefore we both had the same ideologies when it came to charts,
financial markets and trading. It was quite part of me. Um,
it it, we just clicked and that was that. And obviously.
It's interesting cause I mean,
I think I remember now that Alex was talking about that and his podcast,
the fact that he created this Instagram profile and really focused on that to
then get to the position where people were willing to Yeah.
To share with him that wouldn't normally share with him. Um,
which is a great way to do it if he.
Was, It's a massive,
it is a massive tool that not a lot of people take advantage of. Um, for me,
especially as an introvert and someone that's quite scared of the camera to
begin with, um, at the end of the day, well obviously when,
when we started the business, we moved into the office, we got a lovely view,
I'd be an idiot not to market it and, and build like a, a base for that.
And obviously I wouldn't be here talking to you now if I hadn't have done it.
Yeah. If we, if we wouldn't have scouted it to what it was. So it is,
it is a massive blessing in disguise and a lot more people should use it to
their ability.
Yeah. Awesome. Um, now do you wanna walk us through your trading day? So like,
even like your whole sort of business day with trading incorporated into it,
and maybe just diving into the actual routine you have around the market.
, how much time you got ? No, um, so I mean, again,
it's literally,
so the reason why I'm so consistency and so consistent on my approach is because
my day to day life is also, I have a set routine.
How can you expect consistency in the markets and consistency and approach if
your life isn't consistent, you don't have a routine, you're not,
you don't stay disciplined to it. Because if, if I come into this,
obviously I come into the business, I've got other, I've got,
I've got a business to run. At the end of the day, I haven't,
it's not just me and my trade in, it's not just that I have, I have,
I have three other businesses to run. I've got clients to me, I've got, uh,
different conversations to have. But on a day to day basis,
I've got the same thing to, to be doing. So I,
I'll always come into the office at the exact same time.
If I know for a fact if I don't leave my, my house by 20 past five,
I'm gonna be late and I'm gonna be running and chasing the day.
So I know for a fact that if I don't stick to my routine,
I don't go to the gym and keep my head space clear. I don't switch off. For me,
it's um,
it is really just a gym that helps my mind switch off if I don't switch off,
then when I wake up in the morning, I'm gonna be a bit, a little bit tired,
a little bit grouchy, and I'm not gonna get as much done in the morning.
And then I'm gonna be chasing the day,
which mean I'm gonna be not as active on the charts.
Or I might mismanage a trade or see an alert and I might not actually notice it
because I'm,
I'm out doing bits and like bits and pieces and it's all well and good in the
start, but it's not acceptable when we are like 10, 11, 12 months in.
Because again, it's not my money I'm playing about with, it's not my,
it's a client at the end of the day try. It's very hard for me to explain, ah,
I'm sorry I couldn't, I couldn't,
I couldn't manage this position at three o'clock this morning because I was
tired. There's no, there's no excuse for that. Unfortunately. It's,
it is a business and, um, clients don't care. At the end of the day,
you're just a service provider and you have to,
you have to provide them figures. So for me, on a day to day basis, again,
I'll get in, I'm up at, uh, my alarm goes off at 10 to five UK time.
Um, I'm in the office by half six. I've done my, I've done my morning analysis,
I've set all my alerts, It's all good. I've got,
if I've got any running positions, that's all fine. No worries.
And I can start on my, my, whether it be, um, whether I've got a sort out, uh,
cuz obviously how we pay clients here for a spreadsheet.
If I've got any spreadsheet work to be doing,
obviously me and Alex do that together.
So we kind of shift the workload between us two. Um, I,
whether we've got a potential client meeting during the day,
I'll obviously set out my to-do list and just have general set targets,
whether I've gotta create any social media work or get back to anyone through
emails or check my emails. Um, and then realistically, I'll,
I'll switch off the charts at about half nine if any alerts go on. Okay, cool.
I'm back on the charts.
And then what I'll do is I'll monitor four hour closes because all my,
all my strategies are based around the four hour timeframe.
So it's imperative for me to monitor the four hour timeframe. So in four hour,
so I have to monitor every single four hour close. Um,
and then I'll finish up around about half five, um, in the office. I'll go home,
I'll hit the gym around about half eight, I'll get back home, I'll cook.
And then obviously I'm monitoring,
I'm monitoring the day clothes at around about 10 o'clock. Um,
and then that's my, that's my daily routine and it has to be every single day.
It can't, it can't be a discrepancy.
And, and if you like talking about the four hour close, so for somebody who's,
you know, you've got other things going on in the day,
you might be at a client meeting, four hour candle's closing, what happens then?
Um, well if I, if I'm not at the charts.
If you're not at the charts, four hour candle closes, if you're at, you know,
you've got on the tube, your other side of town for some client meeting mm-hmm.
would you, what would you do then? How would you manage that?
How do you.
I've always got my MacBook with me. If you've seen me and I've got a briefcase,
my MacBook is everywhere with me.
So, so that takes priority. It's like a baby, right?
You're gonna go and attend to the baby and, you know, everything else goes.
So that is okay. Right. That, that's interesting. Yeah. Um, and,
and when you're doing the, like,
so how many markets are you monitoring it on this four hour candle close?
So I only monitor the FX and I only monitor pairs that, uh, it depends.
So with my four hour continuation strategy and I, I've my,
I can obviously explain my two strategies in like a very, um,
so it's like a written, it's like I've got a full explanation of it. Um,
and I've got it written down.
Cause obviously I don't wanna give a mis misguided. I can, I can,
I can give my my two strategies what they're based around. No problem. Um,
sorry, what was the question? I've.
Completely forgot. Uh, yeah, so, so when the four hour candle, sorry,
how many markets you said, Oh, if pairs, um,
and then are you talking for like 28 or how many.
No, no, no, no, no. Literally, um, only eight pairs. Only eight pairs a month.
So cause they have a win percentage rate, um,
of either 45 or over 50%. Okay. They're the only, they're,
they're the only pairs that I will will monitor roundabout,
I wanna be hitting around about 50% mark.
So some pairs that might line up with a,
a macroeconomic bias like you ad I don't, I hate uca, I hate you ad,
but one of my best trades last week was U ad.
So because the macroeconomics are aligned,
I might lean into a technical level a little bit more and apply a strategy and
take a punt at it, especially if I've got running profit anyway for the month.
I go, Okay, cool, I can,
I can swing a percentage at this and just take a real punt at it. Um,
but it's usually around about eight. But I do monitor different markets, um, to,
to gauge a different buyer. So I'll monitor the stock market to gauge,
I won't never trade industries, I won't trade the s and p 500 or UK 100,
but I'll use it as a base for how the economy's performing or whether it will
risk on risk off. And then I can basically tailor that back to fx. Um, I,
I'll monitor yields, which I'll come onto because I don't, I really,
really believe hand on heart that a lot of traders don't implement bond yields
into their FX trading. And it is imperative, especially in this market cycle,
it is a massive little life act, um, in my opinion,
especially in the high interest rate market because, um, the Fed especially,
they monitor their,
their bond yields and it can tell you a lot about where the potential of the
economy is sitting and where potentially central banks will pivot and you can
build trade, you can build trades off of that. Right.
Right. Interesting. And, and, um, what about news?
How do you factor the use of Vincents?
I'm glad you comment to this because I have a very, very strong opinion, uh,
when it comes to like fundamentals and, and news. Um,
so when it comes to news events, I, I, I label them as fundamentals,
but I also believe that macroeconomics are fundamentals are two different
things. So macroeconomics, uh, uh, you things like, um, like the,
the general global macroeconomic macroeconomic view, and as an FX trader,
I only really care about a inflation or b interest rates. Yes,
I care about cpa, I care about unemployment rates because it can,
it can piece to the global macroeconomic picture,
which I can then build a bias on the currency pair. So for me, the best,
the best analogy I always say is that fundamentals are the pieces
to a puzzle,
like the little pieces you can piece together and macroeconomics is the,
the whole puzzle in the picture. And the more fundamentals,
like more fundamental releases. So let's take the SD for example.
You get their CPI one, one piece of the puzzle, uh, their unemployment rate,
one piece of the puzzle,
and you get all these puzzles and eventually you get this one clear picture of
ma the macroeconomic picture that then you can go and, uh, aid your SD bias.
That's my two separate things because one of my strategies is based around
fundamentals and the rebalancing of, um,
in a bank price delivery algorithms like the rebalancing,
the price that fundamentals might have made the market in balance. Um,
however, again, the fundamentals have to align for that. Mm-hmm.
and, and in terms of like red news and stuff,
are you out of the market for that? Are you flat or anything like that?
No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm, I'm, I'm always in. Okay.
I'm always in because again,
like you can predict the fundamental releases and the red,
the high impact news releases,
if you understand the global macroeconomic picture. So the trade, the break,
the trades that I'm gonna break down is a beautiful example of that because
obviously it was the, the fed interest rate decision, and I already,
we already knew that there's certainly five basis points were priced into the
market because we understood the macroeconomic picture at the current present.
There was no, there was, there were never gonna turn,
there was never gonna be a dovish pivot,
there was never gonna be a dovish pivot, Right? Cause we have to do,
look at the data, you have to look at their speech. We,
they said two months ago that their data is dependent.
So what you have to do is look at the data to understand whether they're gonna
hike interest rates or cut interest rates or, or, or, or,
or just stop hiking completely. So it helps you, you,
you can really gauge an understanding and reading the,
the forecast and the actual on on or taking the forecasted on Forex
factory for example. It isn't enough. It.
Isn't enough. And what about, uh,
correlation around the eight pairs that you've got and whatever other markets
you Yep. I mean, do you factor that in or are there,
are you choosing on correlated pair or something to that effect?
Um, yes and no. So I do like a correlated pair.
So I love US oil. I won't trade US oil. Um, however,
I do use it for correlation, especially at the current minutes.
So US oil is highly correlated with US inflation,
so it's gonna be very hard for the Fed to turn to, to have a dovish pivot.
If US oil is currently at these levels, it's gonna be very,
very hard for the fit to start to slow their hiking cycle or,
uh, start cutting interest rates. It's gonna be very hard. So I,
I love correlations. Um, I love the, the China,
So the reason why the USDS took a little bit of a tumble and why the, uh,
why a u d has been a little bit stronger this week is because the Chinese
economy has seen, um, has got a lot, lot stronger because obviously,
um, they've implemented a new covid,
they're cutting all of their COVID restrictions. So there's a lot of,
there's a lot of optimism in China at the minute,
which is obviously hurting usd,
but actually strengthening aud because it's highly correlated with the,
the Chinese economy.
So I love correlations because you can sort of look what's going on globally
and, um,
in geopolitics and then make that into money
because there's no point having an opinion on the market and an opinion on, on,
on, um, on a, on a, on a pm, on a, on a richy soon act.
There's no point having an opinion on him if I can't monetize.
It. Right. Okay. And but you don't use correlations in the other way around.
Like if you are, you know, taking, you know, a buy on,
uh, a buy on, uh,
UJA and a buy on and a sell on you cad mm-hmm. , I mean,
you're not sort of, you're not using it in that respect and going, Well,
hang on a second, I've gotta sit up here and see. Not.
Necessarily. Okay. Not necessarily, no.
And what about weekends? I mean, are you holding trades across the weekend or,
Yeah, and cause.
Again, it's all built off the four hour timeframe, so ah, yeah,
great example is the, the,
the two two trade suits au shorts and G shorts last week that I actually took on
the 27th of October. And then I ended up closing on, uh,
hitting on fmc, which was obviously last Wednesday. So I, I,
I do tend to hold trades no longer than two, three weeks.
And what kind of, what kind of timeframe are you entering in on?
Uh, it depends on what strategy, right? It's usually around about the 15 minute.
I never go below the 15 minute now because again, I use a lot more. I,
I use bigger stop losses because I, I need to let the market breathe.
I need to get my, my hedge levels in. I need to make sure that I'm, I'm,
I'm well risked. I need to make sure I've got the liquidity there,
so obviously be risking the amount that I wanna be risking.
So I can't be monitoring and can't be entering on the one minute timeframe
anymore. It's just not suitable for that. That's why I'm saying like,
my trading's been very linear and as I've matured as a person,
my training's matured a lot more as well.
And it's become a little bit more institutionalized because I never go below the
15 minute now it's all, all of my entries are a on, on the M 15 or um,
a one hour s and D level. That's just, that's me now. I found my, my little,
my edge.
Yeah. And,
and like you mentioned five pips as you every stop loss way back in the,
the day way back in. Um, what,
what would be your typical stop loss size now or range?
So for my, for my medium risk strategy, which is obviously the, the,
the two of the pairs,
the low risk is usually anywhere between 50 to a hundred pips on, on yen pairs,
you usually bat around the 80 to 90 pit range. Um, on my,
on my medium risk strategy, you're anywhere between 20 to 50.
And like most smart money concept kind of styles are going for these
humongous, you know, reward trades, uh, you know, upwards of five,
five R up of course. What, what are you looking for from the fund point of view?
Uh, r and r perspective?
Yeah, on average. Yeah.
So on average,
my trend continuation strategy will range anywhere between three and 5%.
But I have a tailored risk management model in it or trade management model.
I have a risk management model as well,
but my tailored risk management model will only basically my first tp.
So I have two TP levels. So my first, my TP one,
I'll take off 8% of the position. Um, no, sorry,
that's my, um, that's, uh, that's secondary.
So I have a hedge level sitting first, which is obviously within the range.
So basically I get into a trade, I'm looking for a H four continuation,
and I'm looking to see, okay, cool, where can, what does price want?
If price comes up into this area, where can it, where, where am I exposed?
Where can it hit for, for it to reverse? And I'm not a beer because I don't,
I don't put my, I don't put my trades at beer, right? Because I find it,
it has a real tendency,
especially on the four hour timeframe that you'll get in and you look for like a
one hour break and it'll come back, reverse take you out, and then it'll,
it will obviously could run to tp. So I'll look for that first.
I'll look for that first hedge level where I potentially will take off 0.5%
cause I risk 1.5% per position on, uh, my trend continuation strategy.
So that's my first port of call.
If all's well and good and I take off 0.5% there usually will let me around
about 1%. So the position's covered. Now the whole position's covered.
So I'm essentially gone be,
but I've still got my stop loss exactly where I sit at to begin with.
So I've got a, I've got a right. Gotcha. Yeah, the, the trade has,
the trade has room for the market to brief. Yep.
And then my second trade management model, uh,
my second trade management area is, um, e url. So it's liquidity,
um, above or below the, the market range. I'll take off 85%,
I'll take off 8% of the position at that at that point.
And then I will move my stop loss to break even and I will let the 20%
of the trade run. Cause obviously if we're in a trend,
there's no point pulling it. So sometimes it can run for,
usually usually nets between three and 5%.
But if we get a really good runner and I mean a really, really good runner,
it can net anywhere between that,
that extra 20% of the position can net me another free five, six,
7%.
Right. So, so 3% on a 1.5% risk is essentially two to one, is that right?
Yeah. Okay. Gotcha. Yeah, pretty much. You mentioned e rl,
what does that stand for exactly? I haven't heard that.
External range liquidity, sorry. External range.
Liquidity. Right, right, right. Cool. Now just diving into like, uh,
I suppose the mindset around, you know,
it seems it's something that people struggle with a lot, avoid,
It doesn't seem like you had any, I suppose,
a media issues with this for whatever reason.
Maybe it's cuz your mum was a trader back in the day.
It was like it's been built into your, about. Is there anything you sort of,
any thoughts on like why you don't seem to have had
the, the, the struggle around, you know, I suppose all the things that,
that traders struggle with or have you and, and how you overcome them?
I have and I haven't.
And another reason why I've been quite psychologically adapting is one of the
reasons why I've been so trading and focused at the three of us, myself, Matt,
and Alex, um, is because I'm quite psychologically adapt for it.
And in my opinion, I know why.
And for me it's quite subjective because it's my own experiences of what I've
gone through already in life, in my,
in my younger years is made me quite mentally mature. I, I,
I dunno whether you've got, um, that, that from me.
I'm only 20 years old at the end of the day and I might come,
sometimes I come across as like a 30, 35 year old.
But for me it's because of what I've already gone through in life.
I I have very, I'm very realistic. I have, um,
I mean you age through pain in my, in my experiences. So for me,
I'm quite mentally, I'm, I'm quite mentally tough already.
So when it comes through, when it comes through the pain of trading,
the pain of loss, um, the struggle, the stress of running a business, this,
that, and other, I'm constantly experiencing that on a day to day basis.
So when I, when I come onto the charts and my trading, there's no,
there's no discrepancies between the two because I've,
I'm already experiencing that elsewhere enough. I've already done it.
I've been there worn the T-shirt and a lot of people come into it from,
from quite, um, from,
I don't wanna say lucky cuz not no one's lucky enough. We all go through things.
Um, I wanna say, I don't wanna say privileged either, but some,
some people have it better than others and that's their,
that he's not their fault at all. But I believe it's you as a person,
you can give, I can give a couple tips and tricks, but I ultimately,
I think it becomes down to you as a person. I'm a big believer of the,
the same water that softens a potato hard as an egg. It's not about your,
it's about what's inside you, not your surroundings. That,
that's my overall opinion.
And I think that's what it's really come down to when it comes to myself. Um,
but ultimately again, when it comes to like,
when it comes to mentality and generally dealing with like the stress and like
having a real psychological edge, um, is again,
experience. I believe that there's no better teaching than experience.
And there's, there's a lot of lessons you can learn through loss,
not only in your training strategies or your training applications,
but also life. Like if you can look yourself in a mirror and know who you are,
where your weaknesses are, where your strengths are, you, you're gonna do very,
very well. You, you are very well equipped.
For it. And do you, I mean, other than going to the gym,
are there any other things that you do from a mindset point of view to, to make,
to get you in the zone?
I love golf on a Saturday. Ah, right. Do love golf. I love a bit of golf.
I do love a bit of golf. Um, that's my gym, golf, um,
and really my golfing. But that's,
it's a bit so for this shit.
in terms of,
I mean actually I just literally read a book cause I ended up doing two weekends
of golf for the last couple of weeks.
And I mean my golfers been pretty average for like years. It's been getting,
in fact it's been getting worse. It's gotten worse to the point where I was,
I was actually throwing clubs in the, the trolley. Oh.
Mate, we've opened, been there, we've.
All been earlier this year now. But what I just,
I started to turn a chord on the last two weeks and I was like, What,
what on earth has changed ?
I've fixed my.
Swing. Yeah. And, and uh, anyway,
I mean I listened to this book which somebody had recommended years ago called
um, Golfers, Not A Game of Perfect.
They recommended it on this show and I was like, okay,
this is going kill tubers of one stone.
I can get a trading book here and also a golf book as well.
It was only an hour and a half on the audible. Um,
I mean what do you see any similarities between golf and, and your trading?
And also what.
Are, you can obviously, I think,
I think you can obviously relate to it obviously being playing golf as well.
There's a lot of similarities between it because again, it is,
golf is like golf's a game where there's a
lot of possibilities. There's a lot of d there's a lot of, uh,
varieties in swings. There's a lot of varieties in outcomes.
There's a lot of opinions in golf about what you should, what you shouldn't do.
And it's really, again, finding what,
what works for you like in your swing and this that, and never.
And it's so relatable when it comes to trading cuz there's so many,
so many different ways you can look at the market, so many different strategies.
You can trade so many different opinions in, in trading.
And ultimately if you just switch all of that noise off and just,
it's just you and a chart, it's actually quite peaceful. And again, if you,
if you are on a round by yourself on a, on a Sunday evening,
it's just you and yourself and no one's got an opinion on how you swing on your
shot, this, that, and ever, just like no one has an,
if you shut all that noise out, no one has an opinion on your loss, your win,
your, your, your opinion on a potential pair.
And that's where I find a lot of similarities in in the two.
Okay. And and, and last question before we jump into the quick fire round.
Um, is there anything you would recommend, sorry,
if you had to recommend one thing a retail trader spend the next month
mastering, what would it be?
Structure a hundred percent.
I think a lot of people really overcomplicate things and that's a lot of things
that I did. Um, 10 months ago.
I tried to overcomplicate the fuck out of the setup and it just isn't,
it doesn't,
it doesn't need to be like that because the more you overcomplicate it,
the less, the less,
the less you less consistent your approach is gonna be because the more
complicated an approach,
the less you can repeat it again and again and again and and again, again.
And in 10 years time, which is what we're obviously aiming for,
because now we're, we're an institution,
we have to aim 10, 15, 20 years down the line.
So I need to make sure my approach is as consistent as physically possible so
I can apply it day in, day out over the course of the next 5, 10, 15 years. And,
and that, that's why just make it simple as physically possible.
Make your approach and ideologies as simple as possible.
And then what you can do is you can build it from now that's my,
that's my one thing to.
Manage something springs to my mind as Chinese whispers. It's almost like,
you know, if you don't make it as simple as possible,
then over time and gradually sort of veers off to, you know, it's like a,
it's like a hook shop or, or a slice. Um,
the golf analogy right now put by around how long did it take you to go from
trading newbie to consistently profitable?
Three years.
What's your favorite entry set?
Ooh, um, four hour dominant candle. Um,
four hour
four four hour imbalance to target,
four hour dominant candle from a counter trend perspective. Um, M 15,
impulsive corrective M 15, um, back into a potential,
uh, one hour area of supply.
What strategies do you use to exit or manage trades?
Again, uh, subjective between the two strategies. So, um, I've,
I've briefly touched on, uh, the trade management on the,
the trend continuation. Um, and the risk management again, is,
is tailored to put the two in the two, but I believe that you,
you'll find that out when obviously I touched base on the charts. You can,
you can see it not clear, it's hard to explain cuz it's quite complicated.
Uh, what's your recommended trading book or resource?
Ooh, I do like training in the matrix, training in Matrix,
but for psychology where really changed my ology was can't hurt me by David
Goggins. It really should put things in perspective. Yeah. So it's,
it's really good book. Really good book.
Another one I can add to my audible. Um,
what's your preferred broker and trading platform.
Or, um, again, so I,
I obviously have my broker that I'm partnered with,
so obviously it's gonna be a bit,
it's gonna be a bit subjective and obviously it's gonna be a bit favored. Um,
I use under trading the next one, my MT four.
And then obviously in the hedging facilities,
we'll obviously use a general liquidity provider anyway that I liquidity
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description. Uh, do you wanna walk us through your worst ever trade?
Oh, it's hard because again,
all my losses are the same now all my losses are the same. Um, so I, I can't,
I can't pinpoint my worst ever because again, they, they're all the same. Um.
What about back in the day? Was there any horrendous trade or.
Probably the one that hurt the most and probably changed my trade in this is
what hurt me the most. It was, uh, I got stopped out,
It was Gu Schultz and it was back on, I believe the date,
the pinpoint date was around about the 17th of February just as uh,
the Ukraine war was escalating and just before the Fed started to increase
the hiking cycle. And I was massively, massively, massively USD ball.
I tried to get into, uh, JUULs,
we usually in a five pit stop loss I got triggered out and the rest was history
over the course of this year died,
next part 4,000 pips and that probably when that died and
it ran for well, well surpassed a thousand pips.
That's what really hurt me the most,
really hurt me and I thought something needs to change. Yeah.
Right. Now, uh, last question.
If you could leave our listeners with one piece of advice, what would it be?
Oh, um, it's a, it's a sign of mine cuz I am a perfectionist. Um,
anything, any outlook, any business, anything like that, any product,
any service, anything you wanna go into, um,
take the mindset of if better is possible good is never good enough.
Nice, Nice. Now before we wrap up,
what's the best way for the traders to get ahold of you?
Uh, my Instagram, my Instagram's probably the, that's the,
the best way of getting ahold of me.
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