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Hey, what's up everybody?
Before we start this episode,

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I want to tell you about our new partners,

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Kearney Sandon Associates Kearney,

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Sandon Associates helps educators find
jobs that support their goals as teachers

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and school administrators,
an education recruiting firm,

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working with K through 12 independent,

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private and charter
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Carney Sando provides a free personalized
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you are paired with a highly qualified
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and advocate on your behalf to
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different schools,

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relationships matter, and Kearney,

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Sando has the connections you
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C A r N E Y S A N D O

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What's up, y'all? I am her.

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And this is the Chicano Logs. Um,

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this is my new podcast that I
launched a couple months ago.

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Dropped an episode in there, but
it occurred to me that never did a,

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a formal introduction of the
work that we are doing, um,

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over here at Tudo Production. So the
Chicano Logs is a tudo production.

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You're gonna be able to listen to this
podcast both on the Tudo teachers and a

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mic feed for a while, uh,
as we bring an audience in.

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But you will also be able to
subscribe to the Chicano Logs Podcast

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anywhere you get podcasts.
Um, we are out there. Uh,

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it's our newest Tudo
production. So, as you know,

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we here at Two Dope Productions
have historically had three

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podcasts that we're doing. Uh,

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we produce the Exit interview
podcast. This is Dr.

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Asia Lyons and Kevin Adams
talking about black educators

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and their struggles and triumphs
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education system. Really
beautiful stuff. Uh,

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you can go over to the exit interview
podcast, uh, on their site. This is where,

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uh, Dr. Asia prefers that you
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there's two dope teachers and a mike, uh,

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for seven years now
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race, power and education. Uh,

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the other thing I wanna share
with you is that we have, um,

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a new sponsor and, uh, that sponsor
is Carney Sando and Associates.

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Carney Sando and Associates
helps educators find jobs
that support their goals

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as teachers and school administrators.

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An educating education recruiting firm,
working with K through 12 independent,

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private and charter schools
across the globe. Kearney, Sando.

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Perver provides a free <laugh>. I'm doing
a really good job on this ad read. Uh,

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believe me, uh,

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this organization is better than the ad
read that I am currently in the middle

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of, um, Kearney.

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Sando provides a free personalized
job search service. When you sign up,

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you are paired with a highly qualified
placement associate who will coach you

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through the search process.
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this is a really amazing
thing. Um, however you,

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you feel about the situation
facing teachers in this country

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today. There are some of us,

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and I'm one of these people who
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in part because I was kind of afraid
of seeing what else was out there.

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And I'm gonna talk a little
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But it would've really
would've been cool to have, um,

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some career counseling from
an organization like Kearney,
Sandon Associates. Um,

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this person can coach you through the
search process, review your resume,

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and advocate for your behalf on your
behalf to schools you're interested in.

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Uh,

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with a 45 year history placing
talented people in over 1800 different

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schools,

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you can trust the team to find you
goals that fit what you are looking for.

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When it comes to job seeking
relationships matter, and Kearney,

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Sando has the connections you
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Visit kearney sando.com/tudo.

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That's kearney sando.com/t
o o d o p e to schedule a

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time to speak with a member of their
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C a r n e y S A N D O e.com/tudo,

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T o O D O P e to schedule a time to speak

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with a member of their recruitment team.
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uh, Carney Sandos helped us,
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the quality of this podcast. So in the
coming weeks and months, uh, we think,

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we think we're gonna come
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You can head over to our website,
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it's all old episodes, but, uh, there
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there are our episode playlists that
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Got a fire playlist from Dr.

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Erica Glover a couple weeks
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And we just really hope that you are down

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to this. So I wanna welcome you
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this, uh, this podcast is, uh, you know,

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it speaks to a lot of really
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Um, the first is, as
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those of you who know me,
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one of the challenges that I
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that's actually made this program a
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is the search for my researcher identity.
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trying to figure out who I am
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mentors and peers in, in my program,

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where the root of a lot of what
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our critical reflexive
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your identity. And that's kind
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you should know who you are. And I
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can't separate who I am from
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I see stories everywhere and,
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you know, kind of all over the
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is looking at ways to
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Latinx chicanx, um,

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groups out there who connect
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who got people who have been
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we have indigenous roots
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uh, particularly educated on.
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how we can start telling these stories,

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how we can start really getting
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we seemed like we were only capable of
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justice, uh, through the lens of
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and while that dynamic
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and we as Latinx people find
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anti-blackness as it exists
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stories that don't naturally
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I think is gonna be a really powerful
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I hope we can do that. I
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the third reason that I
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y'all,

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I don't really know how to
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that minces words or
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we need healing in our [inaudible]
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you know, the problem that we
face is always white supremacy.

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It's always white supremacy. It's,
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that, that we have in this. So this,

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that's the undercurrent of
everything that we experience,

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and I think it's really important
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but we also need a space where we
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I speak as a person who has done

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his, his share of harm
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times, that I have been
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reinforced, um, the pain and the
trauma that our people go through.

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I'm not naive to that. And, um, and
I hope those of you who know me, uh,

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know this to be true, but

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we're living in hard times. You know,

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I've been working since,
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as a voice for honest education through
the National Network of State Teachers

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of the Year. Um, shout out
to Nickel the national,

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um, youth Center for Law. I think,
I think I probably butchered that.

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Shout out to rally,

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shout out to the National Network of State
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Me and my friends, Monica
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TA Nashi and Chris Deer
as we try to write and

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speak and train and push back
against these legislative and

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policy attacks on our
people in history. Um,

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so I've been doing that and I've
been seeing how ugly it gets. Um,

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there's some people out there really
spreading some hatred. And, and, you know,

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this is, this is as much a
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um, because we're seeing this, uh,
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the forces of white supremacy are
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they roll them out there,

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and they know how vulnerable people
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to hear these things.

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The second thing I've noticed is that
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Black, brown, indigenous, um,

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voices get drowned out in this
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we're not together on a
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I think some of us are fearful of
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rightly so, uh, there's a threat
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you know, these are
things that we have to,

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we have to be able to
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if we allow,

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if we allow books to be taken off shelves,

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if we allow for attacks on
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to continue, then that hurts us all.

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clear to me that we have to act
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So it's been really hard, um, to
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communities. And you know, I say
that acknowledging that there's,

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there's a lot of harm. There's
a lot of pain out there.

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who can sugarcoat that.

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I'm not capable of saying
that people's pain can be

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minimized. Um, but I do
think that there's a way,

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there's a way for us to start a
conversation. And, you know, I,

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I sort of hope that the
Chicano logs is, um,

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is a place where this can happen. I've
lined up a lot of guests, some really,

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really amazing people who will
make you laugh, cry, think deeply,

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some people that might even
make you a little bit angry and,

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and that you may disagree
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I really want to host these conversations,
and I want, I want to enter the chat,

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so to speak, um, that a lot of you
out there have been in for a while.

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I'm gonna take a quick
break when I come back,

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I'm gonna talk a little bit about my
week and talk a little bit about what I'm

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up to. Uh, keep it locked
right here on the Chicano logs.

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Welcome back to the Chicano Logs.
Everybody. Segment two of two.

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It's here out the muno, still
here, came back. Um, and, uh,

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I hope y'all are having
a really good day. Um,

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I think this should be
dropping on Mayday, um,

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check out our emergency podcasts
with, um, with some folks, uh,

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who are attempting to organize
a mayday walkout, um, and, uh,

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a general strike for safety of
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really hope you enjoy
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it's been a really interesting
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it's so wild to me that
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relationship with time. Where,
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I keep talking about decolonizing time,
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Marilene Sunga. Um, but
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Um, like I can't believe that as I
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And, uh, you know, Tudo teachers
are gonna be super sweet with, um,

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with some, uh, interviews
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from across these networks I've
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So that's gonna be really cool. Um, but
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a wonderful reset about a week ago. Um,

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do a workshop with Dr.
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for those of you who are unfamiliar
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you gotta get familiar with
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this dude is phenomenal.
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if you're somebody who knows me, you
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I've been doing a lot. I've
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to discover what's important to
me. Um, over this academic year,

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I left teaching, I now work in the
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Um, and I'm continuing my graduate
program working on these fellowships.

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I'm still,

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I'm trying to take the podcast to the
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I should probably actually be reading
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which I will. Um, but
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uh, the University of Northern Colorado
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whose name escapes me right now. Um,

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brought Yemy in to do a workshop with us.

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He's got a new book coming out called
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you know, he, you know, we,

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we had a chance to talk about
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he's also got previous books that he's
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um, really focuses on is authentic,

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culturally responsive equity work.

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So his first book is called Culturally
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Equity Framework for Pedagogy. And
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and I'm hoping we get him on two
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The thing I love about Yummy is
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equitable practice in classrooms.

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There's no list of items that if you get

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you have achieved equity
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There isn't a smart goal around equity.

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like equitable teaching is one of
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consistency and constant
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and so what yemi really
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as as equitable practice.

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So it was a really beautiful
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Y'all gotta check it out, go
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and it's just got some brilliant
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honestly set the tone for the week. Um,

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I think the week has been a really
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I've reached May, so I'm not
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I'm really happy that the
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I'm trying to get a little
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trying to drink more water, trying to
enjoy my Denver nuggets. I mean, whoa,

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we gotta do a whole episode to talk about
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and, uh, how game one was just a vibe,
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Uh, big NBA fan, if you don't know
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I would say the vast majority of my
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Nuggets. Um, and so on. I,

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um, I had a really good
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got to play some pickup
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the manual high school on Wednesday
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even when one of my teammates
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He runs less <laugh>.
That's good times. Uh,

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I'm not a young person anymore.

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I don't know how to turn off my damn
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I usually can't hear them, but now I can.
It's weird. Hope you can't hear them,

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but whatever. Uh, it's
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that as I try to do that stuff and try
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it's because what Yemi taught
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be true and clear about the role of joy

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in artfulness in one's life to,
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wrote about these aesthetic, um,
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aesthetic meaning these
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these feelings that touch the spirit,

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these feelings that get to a spiritual
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technical and operational aspects
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And so I think that that will
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you know, and so today, uh, you know, I
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so I'm excited to go and play. I I
play here in a couple hours. And, uh,

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believe me, you will know
how it all went. Well,

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that's gonna put a wrap on,
uh, this introductory, uh,

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episode of the Chicano Logs.
Uh, you know, I'll be back,

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um, with guests. If you know of anybody,

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or if you are anybody who
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uh, grand experiment in,
uh, in, uh, education, uh,

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hit us up two dope
teachers gmail.com. Also,

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feel free to jump in our dms on
Twitter or on Instagram or on Facebook

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to, um, to connect. You know, we're
trying to build community here.

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I'm trying really hard to
find a path to myself, um,

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and a path to the rest of
you. Um, so until next time,

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um, stay beautiful, stay brilliant,

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stay connected. Uh, stay
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We'll catch you in the next episode.

