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What's going on? Welcome 68 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:11,014 to 2 dope teachers and a microphone. My 69 00:03:11,014 --> 00:03:12,235 name is Harold Munoz. 70 00:03:12,854 --> 00:03:14,794 And I am Kevin Roberts. 71 00:03:15,094 --> 00:03:16,955 Yo. You heard that right, people? 72 00:03:17,655 --> 00:03:19,594 I'm at I'm on the mic. 73 00:03:20,134 --> 00:03:21,034 On the mic. 74 00:03:21,335 --> 00:03:23,435 He's on the mic as if he never 75 00:03:23,495 --> 00:03:23,995 left. 76 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,299 The prodigal son has returned. 77 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:28,840 That's right. You knew I couldn't stay away 78 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:29,340 forever. 79 00:03:29,719 --> 00:03:31,159 I knew I knew you weren't gonna stay 80 00:03:31,159 --> 00:03:33,180 away forever. How you doing, man? 81 00:03:33,479 --> 00:03:34,620 Good. Good. 82 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:36,139 Been been busy, 83 00:03:36,759 --> 00:03:37,500 you know, 84 00:03:37,879 --> 00:03:39,180 at AP Life, 85 00:03:39,824 --> 00:03:43,104 living the the the assistant principal life. I 86 00:03:43,104 --> 00:03:44,944 always say when when people are like, how's 87 00:03:44,944 --> 00:03:46,705 things going? I'm like, oh, you know, living 88 00:03:46,705 --> 00:03:48,305 the dream. I'm not sure whose dream I'm 89 00:03:48,305 --> 00:03:48,805 living. 90 00:03:49,344 --> 00:03:51,344 That's right. That's right. I thought that was 91 00:03:51,344 --> 00:03:52,620 just me who said that. 92 00:03:53,099 --> 00:03:55,099 No. I'm living somebody's dream. 93 00:03:55,419 --> 00:03:56,879 I'm pretty sure it's not mine. 94 00:03:57,580 --> 00:03:59,900 Maybe it's someone else making other people's dreams 95 00:03:59,900 --> 00:04:02,159 come true. That's actually what we do. 96 00:04:02,459 --> 00:04:03,519 The dream merchant. 97 00:04:03,819 --> 00:04:06,705 Sell dreams. We're saying merchants. That's it. 98 00:04:07,805 --> 00:04:10,305 So yeah, y'all we we got Kev here. 99 00:04:10,925 --> 00:04:13,245 You know, the and we'll be real with 100 00:04:13,245 --> 00:04:15,745 y'all. The the podcast is has taken, 101 00:04:16,365 --> 00:04:18,689 a a direction and and, you know, we're 102 00:04:18,850 --> 00:04:20,050 we're gonna talk a little bit about the 103 00:04:20,050 --> 00:04:21,970 liminal space that we've been living in right 104 00:04:21,970 --> 00:04:22,470 now. 105 00:04:23,490 --> 00:04:25,569 You've heard a lot of other guests coming 106 00:04:25,569 --> 00:04:27,330 on. Y'all keep on hitting us up. We're, 107 00:04:27,330 --> 00:04:29,889 yo, where's Kevin at? Where's Kevin at? And 108 00:04:29,889 --> 00:04:32,370 I always Kev, I always tell people that 109 00:04:32,370 --> 00:04:34,514 you're in AP life or that you are 110 00:04:34,514 --> 00:04:37,314 on assignment, which is On assignment. Yes. I 111 00:04:37,314 --> 00:04:39,955 love on assignment. That's a classic. That's a 112 00:04:39,955 --> 00:04:42,435 classic. And the problem is people Those who 113 00:04:42,435 --> 00:04:43,175 don't know. 114 00:04:43,795 --> 00:04:45,735 That's a classic. He's on assignment. 115 00:04:46,060 --> 00:04:46,800 On assignment. 116 00:04:47,500 --> 00:04:48,459 Yeah. You know, 117 00:04:49,019 --> 00:04:51,279 got conferences you attend at times. 118 00:04:51,819 --> 00:04:53,500 Every once in a while. Every once in 119 00:04:53,500 --> 00:04:55,600 a while. Be out there a little bit. 120 00:04:56,060 --> 00:04:57,979 So yeah. So but but what we we 121 00:04:57,979 --> 00:05:00,139 have we have heard the call of the 122 00:05:00,139 --> 00:05:00,639 people. 123 00:05:01,134 --> 00:05:03,074 The people want some OG 124 00:05:03,375 --> 00:05:05,615 2 Dope teachers and a mic. Kev, how 125 00:05:05,615 --> 00:05:07,294 does that make you feel? That that makes 126 00:05:07,294 --> 00:05:09,294 me feel great. You know? It's it's it's 127 00:05:09,294 --> 00:05:10,194 great that people 128 00:05:10,814 --> 00:05:11,634 still appreciate 129 00:05:12,414 --> 00:05:14,574 what we started way back and and how 130 00:05:14,574 --> 00:05:15,634 how it goes 131 00:05:15,939 --> 00:05:17,000 when we get together. 132 00:05:17,540 --> 00:05:19,540 You know? Like, I just saw I saw 133 00:05:19,540 --> 00:05:20,040 yesterday. 134 00:05:20,660 --> 00:05:23,060 Guess what group has recently gotten back together? 135 00:05:23,060 --> 00:05:25,160 Yo. Franz is back too. Yeah. 136 00:05:25,939 --> 00:05:29,055 Not Franz. Franz passed on. Oh. Franz passed 137 00:05:29,055 --> 00:05:31,394 on. Fawn. Fawn. Oh. 138 00:05:32,014 --> 00:05:32,834 Another another 139 00:05:33,134 --> 00:05:35,935 similar name dog, which is weird. Yeah. Oh, 140 00:05:35,935 --> 00:05:36,995 no. Not necessarily. 141 00:05:37,774 --> 00:05:38,574 So so, 142 00:05:38,975 --> 00:05:40,894 so we'll pour pour some out for Franz 143 00:05:40,894 --> 00:05:42,050 real quick. But 144 00:05:42,430 --> 00:05:45,250 yesterday, I saw that 3rd base 145 00:05:46,909 --> 00:05:47,409 performed 146 00:05:48,189 --> 00:05:50,529 got back together as TikTok. 147 00:05:51,550 --> 00:05:54,769 Wow. I was like, woah. Oh my gosh. 148 00:05:54,909 --> 00:05:56,925 3rd base. 3rd base. Did you go see 149 00:05:56,925 --> 00:05:58,464 new edition when they were in town? 150 00:05:58,925 --> 00:06:01,404 No. I missed new edition. I missed my 151 00:06:01,404 --> 00:06:03,644 my my boss did, but I I missed 152 00:06:03,644 --> 00:06:04,785 it. Yeah. 153 00:06:05,245 --> 00:06:07,245 No. There's so many people our age that 154 00:06:07,245 --> 00:06:08,845 went to that show and you could tell 155 00:06:08,845 --> 00:06:09,824 the next day. 156 00:06:10,750 --> 00:06:12,350 Well, one one thing I will say, 157 00:06:12,990 --> 00:06:15,470 it takes solace at Frans is kicking it 158 00:06:15,470 --> 00:06:16,129 with Kiko. 159 00:06:16,509 --> 00:06:19,629 Oh. Last a couple years ago. Yes. Kiko's 160 00:06:19,629 --> 00:06:22,449 been welcoming the dogs in in into, 161 00:06:23,389 --> 00:06:24,689 into the other side, 162 00:06:25,444 --> 00:06:27,045 and showing them you can run and play 163 00:06:27,045 --> 00:06:28,324 and have a good time. So I won 164 00:06:28,324 --> 00:06:29,845 as well on that but There we go, 165 00:06:29,845 --> 00:06:30,665 there we go. 166 00:06:31,045 --> 00:06:33,925 So, yeah man. So it is good and 167 00:06:33,925 --> 00:06:35,285 you know what you know what is really 168 00:06:35,285 --> 00:06:38,585 darkly ironic bro. When we started this thing 169 00:06:38,779 --> 00:06:40,699 a certain Donald j Trump had just been 170 00:06:40,699 --> 00:06:43,420 elected president. That I was thinking about that 171 00:06:43,420 --> 00:06:46,000 today before. I was like, oh my gosh. 172 00:06:46,300 --> 00:06:48,080 We we are back to 173 00:06:48,620 --> 00:06:49,120 started. 174 00:06:49,580 --> 00:06:50,560 Well, you know, 175 00:06:50,875 --> 00:06:52,354 I'm right. I mean, it's like a it 176 00:06:52,394 --> 00:06:53,834 you know, we'll talk about I don't know 177 00:06:53,834 --> 00:06:55,355 if we'll talk about this. This is just 178 00:06:55,355 --> 00:06:58,154 a wild dystopian world we're living in right 179 00:06:58,154 --> 00:07:00,634 now. But, you know, I do think that 180 00:07:00,634 --> 00:07:02,634 I you know, it makes me reflect all 181 00:07:02,634 --> 00:07:03,694 those years ago 182 00:07:04,349 --> 00:07:06,430 on how and we didn't talk about it 183 00:07:06,430 --> 00:07:07,569 like this, but, 184 00:07:07,870 --> 00:07:10,129 you know, I feel like something in us 185 00:07:10,669 --> 00:07:12,370 made us, like, really feel like, 186 00:07:12,750 --> 00:07:13,250 okay. 187 00:07:13,949 --> 00:07:15,969 We gotta we gotta start putting 188 00:07:16,375 --> 00:07:18,214 our voices out there and and the stories 189 00:07:18,214 --> 00:07:19,995 of others like us out there. 190 00:07:20,375 --> 00:07:22,294 Yeah. And so in a way, it's kind 191 00:07:22,294 --> 00:07:24,375 of like full circle. Right? And and we're 192 00:07:24,375 --> 00:07:26,535 back. So this this is gonna be OG. 193 00:07:26,535 --> 00:07:29,194 We're out of respect for Kevin's time 194 00:07:29,540 --> 00:07:30,420 and out of, 195 00:07:31,060 --> 00:07:33,560 you know, forcing me to write my dissertation. 196 00:07:34,740 --> 00:07:36,899 This will be a monthly show. So half 197 00:07:36,899 --> 00:07:38,980 of our monthly episodes will be OG 2 198 00:07:38,980 --> 00:07:42,194 Dope Teachers, and we'll be here. So, on 199 00:07:42,194 --> 00:07:45,314 today's show, we will talk a little bit 200 00:07:45,314 --> 00:07:45,814 about 201 00:07:46,675 --> 00:07:47,574 just where 202 00:07:48,194 --> 00:07:50,534 these diverging paths have taken us 203 00:07:50,834 --> 00:07:53,254 and what that transition has been like 204 00:07:53,740 --> 00:07:57,259 and how we now view our own call 205 00:07:57,259 --> 00:07:59,740 to remix the conversation on race, power, and 206 00:07:59,740 --> 00:08:00,240 education, 207 00:08:00,939 --> 00:08:02,379 because I feel like we're still doing it, 208 00:08:02,379 --> 00:08:04,939 bro. Oh, yeah. I'm still I'm still that's 209 00:08:04,939 --> 00:08:07,040 that's the main thing that the work 210 00:08:08,495 --> 00:08:10,894 remains the same. You know? Like, it it 211 00:08:10,894 --> 00:08:10,975 is 212 00:08:11,694 --> 00:08:13,615 I might be in a different space, and 213 00:08:13,615 --> 00:08:15,454 and and I might have a little greater 214 00:08:15,454 --> 00:08:15,954 touch, 215 00:08:16,495 --> 00:08:18,654 right, and and touch more people in different 216 00:08:18,654 --> 00:08:19,154 ways. 217 00:08:19,535 --> 00:08:19,935 But, 218 00:08:21,180 --> 00:08:23,819 definitely, the work is the same. And and 219 00:08:23,819 --> 00:08:26,220 I'm finding out a lot of still learning 220 00:08:26,220 --> 00:08:26,959 and growing, 221 00:08:27,339 --> 00:08:28,560 like, in my practice. 222 00:08:29,019 --> 00:08:30,080 Yeah. I know. 223 00:08:30,620 --> 00:08:31,439 Yep. Yep. 224 00:08:31,980 --> 00:08:32,480 Yeah. 225 00:08:33,245 --> 00:08:34,684 So, yeah, we'll talk a little bit about 226 00:08:34,684 --> 00:08:36,204 that. There is an elephant in the room 227 00:08:36,204 --> 00:08:37,105 that we'll discuss, 228 00:08:38,445 --> 00:08:41,485 briefly here and at length later on. Yep. 229 00:08:41,884 --> 00:08:43,745 But we'll kinda get that going. 230 00:08:44,764 --> 00:08:45,210 So, 231 00:08:45,929 --> 00:08:48,330 but yeah. So if you are new to 232 00:08:48,330 --> 00:08:49,929 the show, where have you been, man? We've 233 00:08:49,929 --> 00:08:51,230 been here for a while. Actually, 234 00:08:51,929 --> 00:08:53,850 we may have some new listeners because some 235 00:08:53,850 --> 00:08:54,590 of our guests 236 00:08:55,370 --> 00:08:58,170 have brought some really interesting listenership into us. 237 00:08:58,170 --> 00:09:00,090 So we are Fudo features in the mic. 238 00:09:00,090 --> 00:09:00,750 We are 239 00:09:01,825 --> 00:09:04,384 the most dangerous podcast in the schoolhouse. That's 240 00:09:04,384 --> 00:09:07,105 right. Remixing the power remix what am I 241 00:09:07,105 --> 00:09:09,345 talking about? Remixing the conversation on race, power, 242 00:09:09,345 --> 00:09:10,004 and education. 243 00:09:11,424 --> 00:09:12,565 We are, 244 00:09:13,424 --> 00:09:15,044 on all social media platforms. 245 00:09:16,379 --> 00:09:19,100 Although we may be moving to blue sky 246 00:09:19,100 --> 00:09:21,500 at this point. Alright. Although there's a part 247 00:09:21,500 --> 00:09:22,320 of me that 248 00:09:23,019 --> 00:09:23,519 appreciates 249 00:09:23,899 --> 00:09:24,399 witnessing 250 00:09:24,940 --> 00:09:26,079 a post apocalyptic 251 00:09:26,940 --> 00:09:28,079 bot filled hellscape. 252 00:09:28,379 --> 00:09:28,879 It's 253 00:09:29,259 --> 00:09:31,184 a little bit like Star Wars if if 254 00:09:31,184 --> 00:09:33,424 I'm being honest with you. Let's see why. 255 00:09:33,424 --> 00:09:34,965 Yeah. Lot of bots. 256 00:09:35,585 --> 00:09:38,304 Lot of hustlers and snake oil salesman and 257 00:09:38,304 --> 00:09:38,804 mercenaries 258 00:09:39,184 --> 00:09:41,904 and like all that kind of stuff. Yeah. 259 00:09:42,545 --> 00:09:43,924 And if you want to, 260 00:09:45,024 --> 00:09:46,325 support the podcast, 261 00:09:47,470 --> 00:09:48,610 you can go to patreon.com/trudopeteachers. 262 00:09:50,029 --> 00:09:51,470 That's why this episode is gonna be a 263 00:09:51,470 --> 00:09:52,210 little shorter, 264 00:09:52,590 --> 00:09:54,430 because you know the the bills are getting 265 00:09:54,430 --> 00:09:55,809 a little bit harder to pay, 266 00:09:56,590 --> 00:09:58,990 but you know, but shout out to the 267 00:09:58,990 --> 00:10:01,330 the true blue who have stayed with us 268 00:10:01,470 --> 00:10:04,431 and still give us their Shout out. Each 269 00:10:04,742 --> 00:10:07,542 Yes. Month. Alright, Kev. How do you wanna 270 00:10:07,542 --> 00:10:10,030 start this? How should we talk about this? 271 00:10:10,030 --> 00:10:12,519 I mean, I don't I don't know. I 272 00:10:12,519 --> 00:10:15,007 I guess that's the hard part, but I 273 00:10:15,007 --> 00:10:16,990 I mean, I don't know. We could jump 274 00:10:16,990 --> 00:10:18,990 right into it and be like or we 275 00:10:18,990 --> 00:10:20,990 could just talk about how life is. Like, 276 00:10:20,990 --> 00:10:22,610 what what are we dealing with? 277 00:10:22,910 --> 00:10:24,769 What's going on right now? 278 00:10:25,309 --> 00:10:27,169 You know? Actually, I'm I'm 279 00:10:27,549 --> 00:10:29,470 I'm still talking about life. I have a 280 00:10:29,470 --> 00:10:31,535 I have a great I have great something 281 00:10:31,535 --> 00:10:33,475 coming up. I'm going to Japan. 282 00:10:33,855 --> 00:10:37,154 I've taken 14 students with our Japanese teacher. 283 00:10:37,455 --> 00:10:39,215 So You know? And one of them is 284 00:10:39,215 --> 00:10:41,875 my oldest daughter, my oldest child. 285 00:10:42,779 --> 00:10:44,320 We're going to Japan senior 286 00:10:44,700 --> 00:10:47,899 senior senior year trip. That's alright. It's it's 287 00:10:47,899 --> 00:10:50,320 gonna be it's gonna be dope. That's amazing. 288 00:10:50,459 --> 00:10:52,320 Like, it it's hard to imagine, 289 00:10:52,700 --> 00:10:54,940 like, not having a school in DPS that 290 00:10:54,940 --> 00:10:56,975 does that for its high school age students. 291 00:10:57,035 --> 00:10:58,894 Can you imagine such a thing? Sorry. 292 00:10:59,434 --> 00:11:01,595 Yeah. Yeah. I'm just full of sarcasm. No. 293 00:11:01,595 --> 00:11:03,274 That's gonna be really dope and, 294 00:11:04,075 --> 00:11:04,735 you know, 295 00:11:05,035 --> 00:11:05,774 I think, 296 00:11:07,555 --> 00:11:09,915 yeah life is life and I guess, right? 297 00:11:09,915 --> 00:11:10,415 Like 298 00:11:10,889 --> 00:11:11,550 I think, 299 00:11:12,009 --> 00:11:12,830 for me, 300 00:11:13,529 --> 00:11:16,269 I'm 40% of the way through my dissertation. 301 00:11:16,889 --> 00:11:19,050 Pass us up, there we go. I guess, 302 00:11:19,050 --> 00:11:21,930 but it's also like my advisor just doesn't 303 00:11:21,930 --> 00:11:24,410 let me enjoy things for very long and 304 00:11:24,410 --> 00:11:26,264 she's she's like, yeah, I'm gonna recommend that 305 00:11:26,264 --> 00:11:28,125 you pass. I'm like, yay. And she's like, 306 00:11:28,345 --> 00:11:30,024 that means it's at a c level, not 307 00:11:30,024 --> 00:11:31,465 at an a level. Like, you're gonna get 308 00:11:31,465 --> 00:11:32,665 it to an a level. And I'm like, 309 00:11:32,665 --> 00:11:34,585 okay. You just can't let me enjoy this 310 00:11:34,585 --> 00:11:36,345 a little bit. Just give me give me 311 00:11:36,345 --> 00:11:39,279 at least 15 minutes. But the fact remains 312 00:11:39,279 --> 00:11:41,200 that there is a light at the end 313 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,519 of the tunnel and I may be able 314 00:11:43,519 --> 00:11:44,339 to do that. 315 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:47,620 My kid second year college 316 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:50,339 in Shai City, 317 00:11:51,055 --> 00:11:52,754 We were just actually out there, 318 00:11:53,774 --> 00:11:54,274 for, 319 00:11:55,215 --> 00:11:55,955 my wife's, 320 00:11:56,335 --> 00:11:57,075 her mom's, 321 00:11:57,774 --> 00:11:58,754 50th birthday. 322 00:11:59,134 --> 00:11:59,955 Very good. 323 00:12:00,415 --> 00:12:03,075 I'll go back. To the Chi. Happy birthday, 324 00:12:03,295 --> 00:12:03,750 mom. 325 00:12:04,230 --> 00:12:06,470 No man it's crazy. That's why I make 326 00:12:06,470 --> 00:12:07,990 fun of her for being in Cragel Robert 327 00:12:07,990 --> 00:12:10,070 because like I'm only 48 years old. There 328 00:12:10,070 --> 00:12:13,610 you go, oh, uh-oh. Young kid, young kid. 329 00:12:13,669 --> 00:12:14,070 Yeah, 330 00:12:14,789 --> 00:12:17,289 so I guess the first thing that people 331 00:12:18,230 --> 00:12:20,254 have asked to kinda hear about 332 00:12:20,794 --> 00:12:21,294 is 333 00:12:21,674 --> 00:12:23,774 neither of us is a classroom teacher anymore. 334 00:12:24,154 --> 00:12:25,774 Right? Yes. Yes. 335 00:12:26,315 --> 00:12:28,714 And we've both moved into roles. You you 336 00:12:28,714 --> 00:12:31,434 made reference to it. We've both moved into 337 00:12:31,434 --> 00:12:33,454 roles where ostensibly there's a larger 338 00:12:34,049 --> 00:12:35,570 impact. I I guess we can just kinda 339 00:12:35,570 --> 00:12:37,029 share what that's been like, 340 00:12:37,730 --> 00:12:39,910 no longer being a classroom teacher 341 00:12:40,370 --> 00:12:42,450 and you know what that experience has been 342 00:12:42,450 --> 00:12:45,410 like. Good, bad, and ugly. Right? Yeah. You 343 00:12:45,410 --> 00:12:48,289 know, I think for me, like the 1st 344 00:12:48,289 --> 00:12:48,789 year 345 00:12:49,184 --> 00:12:50,485 it was a lot of adjustment. 346 00:12:50,865 --> 00:12:52,164 One thing that I loved 347 00:12:52,465 --> 00:12:53,845 was being done with grading. 348 00:12:54,544 --> 00:12:56,384 Oh, yes. I Oh my god. You're the 349 00:12:56,384 --> 00:12:58,544 same. I have another part to that that's 350 00:12:58,544 --> 00:13:00,304 going on right now. We have a teacher 351 00:13:00,304 --> 00:13:00,960 on leave. 352 00:13:01,519 --> 00:13:03,519 And and and guess what? It's one of 353 00:13:03,519 --> 00:13:04,899 my teachers on my caseload, 354 00:13:05,279 --> 00:13:08,040 and I found myself grading. I'm back grading. 355 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:08,980 Oh, no. 356 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:11,679 Well, I thought I was ever gonna have 357 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:13,519 to lesson plan again, and then I learned 358 00:13:13,519 --> 00:13:15,840 about team meetings. Yep. Yep. You're like, oh, 359 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:17,195 wait. But, hey. 360 00:13:17,975 --> 00:13:20,715 You I guarantee you're planning way more engaging, 361 00:13:21,014 --> 00:13:21,514 effective 362 00:13:22,295 --> 00:13:25,815 Oh. Than anybody else. Yeah. You're like, yeah. 363 00:13:25,815 --> 00:13:28,134 You have to Yeah. I mean, I I 364 00:13:28,134 --> 00:13:28,710 I think, 365 00:13:29,830 --> 00:13:31,910 one of my direct reports is actually a 366 00:13:31,910 --> 00:13:33,929 podcast listener, so shout out. 367 00:13:34,309 --> 00:13:35,769 Shout out. And, 368 00:13:36,710 --> 00:13:38,389 yeah. So they they may have a different 369 00:13:38,389 --> 00:13:40,710 perspective on that, but, you know, it is 370 00:13:41,029 --> 00:13:43,085 yeah. I mean, so so you're so you're 371 00:13:43,085 --> 00:13:45,085 still doing the grading. Still still still a 372 00:13:45,085 --> 00:13:46,705 little bit of grading, but 373 00:13:47,085 --> 00:13:47,825 I think 374 00:13:48,205 --> 00:13:50,304 Go ahead. Go ahead. You go. You go. 375 00:13:50,365 --> 00:13:53,725 Like, just I think adjusting to like, when 376 00:13:53,725 --> 00:13:55,184 you're a classroom teacher, 377 00:13:56,649 --> 00:13:58,970 there's a very clear mission every day for 378 00:13:58,970 --> 00:14:02,089 you. Right? Like, I'm planning the lesson. We're 379 00:14:02,089 --> 00:14:04,730 teaching about this. You know, it's it's the 380 00:14:04,730 --> 00:14:05,230 Q2. 381 00:14:05,929 --> 00:14:07,470 We're moving into this unit. 382 00:14:07,850 --> 00:14:10,089 You know, we're moving through. I'm I'm giving 383 00:14:10,089 --> 00:14:10,830 this assessment. 384 00:14:11,334 --> 00:14:13,195 Yeah. I'm I'm doing these pieces. 385 00:14:13,654 --> 00:14:15,735 And I think when you leave, there's, like, 386 00:14:15,735 --> 00:14:17,434 this other piece where it's like, 387 00:14:18,214 --> 00:14:18,714 oh, 388 00:14:19,174 --> 00:14:21,754 wait. I I don't have that, like, 389 00:14:22,774 --> 00:14:23,274 like, 390 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:24,540 internalized 391 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:26,300 push of the work 392 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:29,500 that just always causes it to move forward. 393 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:31,559 Right? And a big shout out to the 394 00:14:31,559 --> 00:14:32,059 teachers. 395 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:33,720 But I think for me, one of the 396 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,759 biggest things is just, like, this other view 397 00:14:36,759 --> 00:14:37,500 of teaching. 398 00:14:38,134 --> 00:14:41,274 Like, I I am so excited these days. 399 00:14:41,735 --> 00:14:44,054 The best thing that I like, my best 400 00:14:44,054 --> 00:14:45,674 day, and I I did it 401 00:14:45,975 --> 00:14:46,475 yesterday, 402 00:14:47,254 --> 00:14:48,075 3 observations, 403 00:14:49,095 --> 00:14:51,415 spend about, you know, 40 minutes in each 404 00:14:51,415 --> 00:14:51,915 class, 405 00:14:52,379 --> 00:14:54,700 really getting to see, really giving to give 406 00:14:54,700 --> 00:14:57,420 teachers feedback, saw awesome stuff that they were 407 00:14:57,420 --> 00:15:00,139 doing. And and gay you know, I always 408 00:15:00,139 --> 00:15:02,139 appreciate when I can give them suggestions that 409 00:15:02,139 --> 00:15:02,799 they're like, 410 00:15:03,100 --> 00:15:05,179 oh, that I never thought about that. Or, 411 00:15:05,179 --> 00:15:06,320 you know, we have conversations 412 00:15:07,115 --> 00:15:09,214 or ask questions that help them to reflect 413 00:15:09,355 --> 00:15:11,434 and and grow in their practice, and they 414 00:15:11,434 --> 00:15:13,034 come back and they're like, you know what? 415 00:15:13,195 --> 00:15:15,195 This has been a lot better since we've 416 00:15:15,195 --> 00:15:16,174 had that conversation. 417 00:15:17,034 --> 00:15:17,855 So I think 418 00:15:18,394 --> 00:15:20,714 just growing in that sense and being able 419 00:15:20,714 --> 00:15:23,419 to to sit back and watch it all 420 00:15:23,419 --> 00:15:25,100 happen. You know what I mean? Like, I 421 00:15:25,100 --> 00:15:27,120 love to walk by a class and 422 00:15:27,579 --> 00:15:29,659 and just pop in and just and ask 423 00:15:29,659 --> 00:15:31,500 the kids what they're learning about and have 424 00:15:31,500 --> 00:15:33,600 them tell you, like, abate 425 00:15:34,535 --> 00:15:36,795 using stuff and be about their learning. 426 00:15:37,495 --> 00:15:38,235 You know? 427 00:15:38,615 --> 00:15:40,634 It's interesting that you say that because, 428 00:15:42,535 --> 00:15:45,014 you know, I think from the outside, people 429 00:15:45,014 --> 00:15:47,495 may look at our paths and look at 430 00:15:47,495 --> 00:15:47,995 how 431 00:15:48,455 --> 00:15:49,835 we've just moved 432 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:53,279 not only away from the classroom but away 433 00:15:53,279 --> 00:15:55,279 from each other. You know what's kind of 434 00:15:55,279 --> 00:15:56,019 dope bro? 435 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:59,039 Some of the some of the things you're 436 00:15:59,039 --> 00:16:00,339 talking about like 437 00:16:01,279 --> 00:16:04,100 especially around observations feedback giving suggestions 438 00:16:05,084 --> 00:16:06,144 that kind of thing. 439 00:16:07,004 --> 00:16:07,985 I'm also 440 00:16:08,524 --> 00:16:10,845 seeing those things, but kind of from afar. 441 00:16:10,845 --> 00:16:12,865 So we we had, 442 00:16:13,804 --> 00:16:15,245 I don't wanna say an issue because I 443 00:16:15,245 --> 00:16:17,584 don't want it to sound, like, overly dramatic 444 00:16:17,644 --> 00:16:20,179 or over or, like, overly terrible, but, 445 00:16:20,559 --> 00:16:21,139 you know, 446 00:16:21,919 --> 00:16:25,519 my team manages new educator supports for our 447 00:16:25,519 --> 00:16:28,240 district. Yeah. And one of the issues that 448 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:29,679 came up at one of the schools we 449 00:16:29,679 --> 00:16:32,879 support was a 1st year teacher getting low 450 00:16:32,879 --> 00:16:34,914 scores, low evaluation scores, 451 00:16:35,215 --> 00:16:38,034 and not and and they weren't upset because 452 00:16:38,174 --> 00:16:39,934 they got low scores. They were upset because 453 00:16:39,934 --> 00:16:41,634 they didn't have a clear sense 454 00:16:42,014 --> 00:16:44,034 of action steps or how to prioritize, 455 00:16:44,495 --> 00:16:44,995 like, 456 00:16:45,375 --> 00:16:48,029 all the different indicators in in the framework. 457 00:16:48,190 --> 00:16:50,350 Yep. And so my team got with the 458 00:16:50,350 --> 00:16:51,889 growth and performance folks. 459 00:16:52,269 --> 00:16:52,769 They 460 00:16:53,149 --> 00:16:53,649 calibrated 461 00:16:54,350 --> 00:16:56,690 like through an observation and then they developed 462 00:16:56,750 --> 00:16:58,690 a bunch of guidance for, 463 00:16:59,790 --> 00:17:01,730 new teachers and kind of what the gateway 464 00:17:01,950 --> 00:17:03,404 indicators we call them. Like 465 00:17:04,205 --> 00:17:06,924 how do we focus in on the most 466 00:17:06,924 --> 00:17:09,424 beneficial things for brand new teachers. And so 467 00:17:09,724 --> 00:17:11,805 being able to sit in that space knowing 468 00:17:11,805 --> 00:17:13,904 that you and I are working 469 00:17:14,205 --> 00:17:16,625 from different angles on the same issue 470 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:19,640 It's kinda dope. And that's that's a trip, 471 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:21,320 you know, that, like because that's what I've 472 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:23,559 been that's what my observations have been, and 473 00:17:23,559 --> 00:17:26,600 I'm I've got a a couple of new 474 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:28,299 teachers that I'm working with, 475 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:30,255 you know, and and supporting them in the 476 00:17:30,255 --> 00:17:32,575 gateway indicators is really easy at the beginning 477 00:17:32,575 --> 00:17:34,815 of the you know, like, it's Right. It's 478 00:17:34,815 --> 00:17:37,455 very, like if you're starting to do this 479 00:17:37,455 --> 00:17:40,735 stuff, you're getting the real important parts of 480 00:17:40,735 --> 00:17:41,875 the job. Right? 481 00:17:42,255 --> 00:17:42,994 And and, 482 00:17:44,279 --> 00:17:45,580 but I think I think 483 00:17:46,120 --> 00:17:47,660 helping teachers stay. 484 00:17:48,039 --> 00:17:50,759 Helping teachers stick with it because this is 485 00:17:50,759 --> 00:17:52,539 not like, I've like, 486 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,320 it's a challenging thing and and seeing that 487 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:57,580 perspective and seeing the work that they're doing 488 00:17:58,184 --> 00:18:00,744 and, you know, like, the ways teachers are 489 00:18:00,744 --> 00:18:03,704 dealing with certain kids and trying to find 490 00:18:03,704 --> 00:18:05,085 ways to support them. 491 00:18:07,304 --> 00:18:07,804 And 492 00:18:08,105 --> 00:18:10,125 it's it's just, I think, really 493 00:18:11,069 --> 00:18:13,250 help open my eyes to the 494 00:18:13,789 --> 00:18:14,929 importance of coaching, 495 00:18:15,470 --> 00:18:16,369 of coaching 496 00:18:16,750 --> 00:18:18,669 Yeah. And and not in that sense of 497 00:18:18,669 --> 00:18:19,169 evaluation, 498 00:18:19,549 --> 00:18:21,950 but just, like, giving people a space where 499 00:18:21,950 --> 00:18:23,970 they feel like they can try new things, 500 00:18:24,474 --> 00:18:25,774 where they have strategies, 501 00:18:26,474 --> 00:18:28,075 where where they feel like they don't have 502 00:18:28,075 --> 00:18:30,714 to be perfect all the time. Right? Because, 503 00:18:30,714 --> 00:18:31,214 like, 504 00:18:32,075 --> 00:18:33,755 like, I see teachers that have, like and 505 00:18:33,755 --> 00:18:35,514 I had that feeling a lot of times. 506 00:18:35,514 --> 00:18:37,609 I think a lot of teachers who listen 507 00:18:37,609 --> 00:18:39,849 to us probably can relate is there's times 508 00:18:39,849 --> 00:18:40,669 where you're like, 509 00:18:41,049 --> 00:18:43,130 I feel perfect. I I gotta be perfect. 510 00:18:43,130 --> 00:18:44,490 And I have, like you know, you go 511 00:18:44,490 --> 00:18:45,390 in to observe. 512 00:18:45,769 --> 00:18:47,690 And what's the like, teachers, a lot of 513 00:18:47,690 --> 00:18:48,589 times, they're like, 514 00:18:49,049 --> 00:18:50,809 well, it's gonna be like this because of 515 00:18:50,809 --> 00:18:51,855 this. And I'm like, 516 00:18:52,894 --> 00:18:53,394 chill. 517 00:18:53,775 --> 00:18:55,615 Yeah. Well, because, you know and I think 518 00:18:55,615 --> 00:18:57,315 that's one thing that 519 00:18:57,694 --> 00:18:58,595 that's really, 520 00:18:59,375 --> 00:19:01,474 that I've realized, like, so, 521 00:19:01,934 --> 00:19:03,474 you know, I went from managing 522 00:19:04,339 --> 00:19:07,380 38th graders to managing 4 adults. I'm not 523 00:19:07,380 --> 00:19:08,839 actually sure which is harder. 524 00:19:10,180 --> 00:19:10,680 But 525 00:19:11,059 --> 00:19:12,359 I think it's the 4 adults. 526 00:19:13,779 --> 00:19:16,759 It's it's interesting. Right? And and I think 527 00:19:16,820 --> 00:19:18,039 that because 528 00:19:19,255 --> 00:19:22,454 the central office space, I would imagine I 529 00:19:22,454 --> 00:19:23,894 can only speak from my own experience, but 530 00:19:23,894 --> 00:19:25,734 I don't imagine it's like this everywhere. It's 531 00:19:25,734 --> 00:19:28,454 just a completely different place than being in 532 00:19:28,454 --> 00:19:31,355 a school. And so I tried really hard 533 00:19:32,019 --> 00:19:35,240 to leave to to embrace, like, okay. 534 00:19:35,539 --> 00:19:38,420 How how what is central office thinking? What 535 00:19:38,420 --> 00:19:40,660 is central office leadership? All those kinds of 536 00:19:40,660 --> 00:19:42,519 things. And I struggled a lot 537 00:19:43,059 --> 00:19:44,359 until I realized 538 00:19:44,740 --> 00:19:45,240 that, 539 00:19:46,494 --> 00:19:46,994 bro, 540 00:19:47,615 --> 00:19:49,694 I I was in the classroom for 23 541 00:19:49,694 --> 00:19:50,194 years. 542 00:19:50,575 --> 00:19:51,554 There's never 543 00:19:51,855 --> 00:19:53,154 go I will always 544 00:19:53,615 --> 00:19:54,755 look at education 545 00:19:55,134 --> 00:19:56,674 through the eyes of a teacher. 546 00:19:57,134 --> 00:19:58,355 That'll be my first 547 00:19:59,059 --> 00:19:59,559 perspective, 548 00:20:00,819 --> 00:20:02,900 when I don't know randomly my chief of 549 00:20:02,900 --> 00:20:05,299 talent assigns me a big scary project that 550 00:20:05,299 --> 00:20:06,920 has to be turned around in a month. 551 00:20:07,140 --> 00:20:07,640 Like 552 00:20:08,179 --> 00:20:09,779 the first thing I think of is like 553 00:20:09,779 --> 00:20:11,079 okay if this was happening 554 00:20:11,894 --> 00:20:14,015 in my school, in my building, in my 555 00:20:14,055 --> 00:20:16,934 Yep. Classroom Yep. What would what would I 556 00:20:16,934 --> 00:20:18,695 what questions would I have and what are 557 00:20:18,695 --> 00:20:19,974 the things that I feel like I need 558 00:20:19,974 --> 00:20:20,634 to communicate 559 00:20:21,095 --> 00:20:23,255 and so I've been saying for a while 560 00:20:23,255 --> 00:20:23,994 now teaching 561 00:20:24,455 --> 00:20:26,394 is my professional mother tongue. 562 00:20:26,740 --> 00:20:28,500 Yep. Like like you know how it is 563 00:20:28,500 --> 00:20:30,179 with with a native language, like you can 564 00:20:30,179 --> 00:20:31,240 learn other languages, 565 00:20:31,779 --> 00:20:33,940 but your first language is the one that 566 00:20:33,940 --> 00:20:36,519 you feel your emotions in. It's it's the 567 00:20:36,740 --> 00:20:38,819 language that you dream in Dream in. Think 568 00:20:38,819 --> 00:20:40,579 in. Yep. Yep. Like all that. I feel 569 00:20:40,579 --> 00:20:42,194 that way about teaching. I don't have teacher 570 00:20:42,194 --> 00:20:43,875 dreams anymore. That's one thing I do not 571 00:20:43,875 --> 00:20:44,375 miss, 572 00:20:45,875 --> 00:20:48,434 but but I think that's a Copy copy 573 00:20:48,434 --> 00:20:48,934 machine. 574 00:20:49,315 --> 00:20:51,255 It's not working. It's always a copy machine 575 00:20:51,315 --> 00:20:51,815 or 576 00:20:52,194 --> 00:20:54,674 it's my classroom is a mess. Most of 577 00:20:54,674 --> 00:20:56,295 the time I'm writing my syllabus 578 00:20:56,849 --> 00:21:00,049 as I'm welcoming the kids into class. Like, 579 00:21:00,049 --> 00:21:01,809 I'm talking them through it and writing at 580 00:21:01,809 --> 00:21:03,890 the same time. It's amazing. Mine were never 581 00:21:03,890 --> 00:21:05,269 like mine were like, 582 00:21:06,210 --> 00:21:08,369 oh my god. It's like 8 in the 583 00:21:08,369 --> 00:21:09,670 morning, and I'm like 584 00:21:10,365 --> 00:21:12,384 8 hours away, and there's 585 00:21:12,684 --> 00:21:14,464 no way I can get there. 586 00:21:14,845 --> 00:21:17,325 I'm at the airport. Oh, no. I have 587 00:21:17,325 --> 00:21:20,765 to teach. Like, so like, I'm several, like, 588 00:21:20,765 --> 00:21:23,025 in a broke down car or some 589 00:21:24,269 --> 00:21:26,830 place, like, having to take multiple trains and 590 00:21:26,830 --> 00:21:28,750 be like Yep. I have to call, and 591 00:21:28,750 --> 00:21:30,289 then I'd wake up and be like, 592 00:21:30,590 --> 00:21:31,490 oh, I'm good. 593 00:21:31,950 --> 00:21:33,630 Yeah. My my mom's, 594 00:21:33,950 --> 00:21:35,950 recurring teacher dream, I'm sure she wouldn't mind 595 00:21:35,950 --> 00:21:37,434 me sharing this, is, 596 00:21:37,914 --> 00:21:39,994 that she can never find her classroom. Oh, 597 00:21:39,994 --> 00:21:41,914 yeah. So she's, like, walking around looking for 598 00:21:41,914 --> 00:21:43,914 her classroom. And she says a lot of 599 00:21:43,914 --> 00:21:46,154 times, the kids are actually with her, like 600 00:21:46,234 --> 00:21:48,335 and they're all looking for the classroom together. 601 00:21:50,234 --> 00:21:52,027 That's a deep I I would love to 602 00:21:52,027 --> 00:21:53,820 go into that to hear a bunch of 603 00:21:53,820 --> 00:21:56,079 teachers. What is What what are the teachers? 604 00:21:56,140 --> 00:21:57,839 Hit us up, tuto teachers atgmail.com. 605 00:21:58,299 --> 00:21:59,599 Hit us up. What are 606 00:21:59,980 --> 00:22:01,519 your recurring teacher dreams? 607 00:22:03,259 --> 00:22:05,500 Yeah. So so so it's it is really 608 00:22:05,500 --> 00:22:07,660 interesting. Do you miss being a classroom teacher 609 00:22:07,660 --> 00:22:08,115 at all? 610 00:22:09,075 --> 00:22:09,575 Yes. 611 00:22:10,035 --> 00:22:11,095 All the time. 612 00:22:11,394 --> 00:22:13,575 All the time, there are certain aspects 613 00:22:14,115 --> 00:22:14,934 that I'm, like, 614 00:22:16,115 --> 00:22:17,174 planning lessons, 615 00:22:17,714 --> 00:22:19,255 finding things to, like, 616 00:22:19,875 --> 00:22:21,974 materials and stuff that I come across. 617 00:22:22,355 --> 00:22:24,509 But but I've also had a couple of 618 00:22:24,509 --> 00:22:26,589 opportunities, you know, to co teach with some 619 00:22:26,589 --> 00:22:27,089 teachers 620 00:22:27,869 --> 00:22:30,589 and, to You you get the you get 621 00:22:30,589 --> 00:22:32,669 a little bit of a taste. A little 622 00:22:32,669 --> 00:22:34,990 bit of a taste. You know? But I 623 00:22:34,990 --> 00:22:37,069 I there are times that everybody always asks 624 00:22:37,069 --> 00:22:38,535 me. They're like, mister, do you miss it? 625 00:22:38,934 --> 00:22:40,855 And all of the middle schoolers that I 626 00:22:40,855 --> 00:22:41,355 taught, 627 00:22:41,734 --> 00:22:43,894 they're like, mister, you should come back and 628 00:22:43,894 --> 00:22:45,835 be our social studies teacher. 629 00:22:46,455 --> 00:22:47,275 And I'm like 630 00:22:48,295 --> 00:22:50,535 Yeah. I want to. Yeah. Like Yeah. No. 631 00:22:50,775 --> 00:22:52,455 Ask me on the right day. And then 632 00:22:52,455 --> 00:22:53,355 I'm like, grading, 633 00:22:53,839 --> 00:22:54,579 but grading. 634 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:57,519 Yeah. Some place. So this is this is 635 00:22:57,519 --> 00:22:59,839 another place this is another place where I 636 00:22:59,839 --> 00:23:01,279 think this is a place where I think 637 00:23:01,279 --> 00:23:04,099 we diverge. Yeah. I do not miss teaching. 638 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,960 You don't. You're you were good. I don't. 639 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:08,559 I'll tell you what I do miss. 4 640 00:23:08,559 --> 00:23:10,105 more years on me of it. You have 641 00:23:10,105 --> 00:23:11,544 4 years. No, and it makes a big 642 00:23:11,544 --> 00:23:12,044 difference. 643 00:23:12,424 --> 00:23:14,605 A lot of things happen after 20, bro. 644 00:23:14,984 --> 00:23:15,865 Yeah. Yep. But, 645 00:23:16,345 --> 00:23:16,845 no, 646 00:23:17,865 --> 00:23:19,565 but I will tell you I miss kids. 647 00:23:20,825 --> 00:23:23,065 You miss kids. And so anytime I get 648 00:23:23,065 --> 00:23:23,644 a chance 649 00:23:24,509 --> 00:23:25,330 to see, 650 00:23:25,789 --> 00:23:27,869 especially the the students who are in my 651 00:23:27,869 --> 00:23:29,970 school and in in my classroom, 652 00:23:30,750 --> 00:23:33,250 it's just so great to see them because, 653 00:23:33,789 --> 00:23:35,710 like, I remember that and that's something that 654 00:23:35,710 --> 00:23:38,109 I I don't think I always appreciated while 655 00:23:38,109 --> 00:23:39,009 I was a teacher 656 00:23:39,464 --> 00:23:41,484 was that I could come in the building 657 00:23:42,025 --> 00:23:45,164 in the worst mood, I'm late, the copier's 658 00:23:45,224 --> 00:23:47,404 not working, traffic was heavy, 659 00:23:47,944 --> 00:23:50,345 like I'm just I didn't get enough sleep, 660 00:23:50,345 --> 00:23:51,964 I'm stressed out, I'm annoyed, 661 00:23:53,740 --> 00:23:54,480 you know, 662 00:23:55,419 --> 00:23:57,019 and then I'm standing in the hall and 663 00:23:57,019 --> 00:23:58,539 a student that you and I will both 664 00:23:58,539 --> 00:23:59,039 remember 665 00:23:59,339 --> 00:24:00,079 very clearly 666 00:24:00,380 --> 00:24:02,779 just comes bouncing up. Hey. How's your day? 667 00:24:02,779 --> 00:24:04,960 How you doing? What's new? And it's like 668 00:24:05,674 --> 00:24:08,154 it's like you just have like, kids have 669 00:24:08,154 --> 00:24:08,654 such 670 00:24:09,194 --> 00:24:10,015 such a 671 00:24:10,474 --> 00:24:12,734 such an ability to just turn your spirits. 672 00:24:13,115 --> 00:24:14,575 Yep. Yep. Yep. 673 00:24:14,954 --> 00:24:17,115 And and I know, yes, I know some 674 00:24:17,115 --> 00:24:18,794 kids can be really difficult and they can 675 00:24:18,794 --> 00:24:21,490 make some sometimes working with kids is really 676 00:24:21,490 --> 00:24:21,990 hard, 677 00:24:22,369 --> 00:24:24,869 but working in an adult space now, 678 00:24:25,329 --> 00:24:27,990 like, you just don't have people who are 679 00:24:28,369 --> 00:24:30,230 bouncing up to you and and 680 00:24:30,690 --> 00:24:33,250 and changing your spirits. Telling you a weird 681 00:24:33,250 --> 00:24:35,565 joke out of nowhere or showing you something 682 00:24:35,565 --> 00:24:37,484 that they did that they're just so thrilled 683 00:24:37,484 --> 00:24:40,865 about Yep. Or singing some weird song or, 684 00:24:41,085 --> 00:24:43,964 like, these days, asking you some weird question 685 00:24:43,964 --> 00:24:45,884 from a man. Standing neck standing next to 686 00:24:45,884 --> 00:24:47,325 you on a hall of duty assuming the 687 00:24:47,325 --> 00:24:49,484 same poses you guys play. That oh, that's 688 00:24:49,484 --> 00:24:52,190 a good one. That's good. My one has 689 00:24:52,190 --> 00:24:54,589 happened a lot this year. Mister, where's your 690 00:24:54,589 --> 00:24:55,089 pass? 691 00:24:55,549 --> 00:24:56,129 I'm like, 692 00:24:56,429 --> 00:24:58,589 this walkie talkie on my waist. You see 693 00:24:58,589 --> 00:25:00,750 that? That's my pass. They got these gray 694 00:25:00,750 --> 00:25:02,529 hairs right here. Exactly. 695 00:25:03,149 --> 00:25:05,009 Yeah. That's my pass. 696 00:25:05,464 --> 00:25:07,305 That is yeah. So I mean so it 697 00:25:07,305 --> 00:25:08,525 is interesting like 698 00:25:09,384 --> 00:25:09,884 like 699 00:25:10,984 --> 00:25:13,065 what I like I don't miss teaching, but 700 00:25:13,065 --> 00:25:15,224 I kinda miss being a teacher. Yeah. If 701 00:25:15,224 --> 00:25:16,445 that makes sense. Yep. 702 00:25:16,984 --> 00:25:18,950 I get that. I get that. It's 703 00:25:19,250 --> 00:25:21,589 that's one of the best things about, like, 704 00:25:22,130 --> 00:25:24,529 my position and what happened for me because 705 00:25:24,529 --> 00:25:26,150 I got to stay in my community. 706 00:25:26,529 --> 00:25:29,190 Yeah. I got to, you know, just literally 707 00:25:29,730 --> 00:25:30,630 change jobs, 708 00:25:31,355 --> 00:25:33,515 You know? And and it was around people 709 00:25:33,515 --> 00:25:35,515 who knew me and gave me tons of 710 00:25:35,515 --> 00:25:37,914 grace, and they're still giving me tons of 711 00:25:37,914 --> 00:25:38,414 grace. 712 00:25:39,115 --> 00:25:41,914 Like, I'm like, y'all, I've I've I'm sorry 713 00:25:41,914 --> 00:25:43,994 that I don't have any clue of what 714 00:25:43,994 --> 00:25:45,355 I'm doing. They're like, no. You're doing a 715 00:25:45,355 --> 00:25:47,039 good job. I'm like, are you sure? 716 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,640 Are you sure? Because I feel like every 717 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:51,700 day, I'm like, 718 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:54,920 I don't know. Yeah. I I will say 719 00:25:55,039 --> 00:25:56,400 At least you don't have to go to 720 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:57,619 those principal calls. 721 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,480 Oh my god. That's see, there's stuff like 722 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,285 that. That's like, you know, one day I'd 723 00:26:02,285 --> 00:26:04,045 like to be a principal. And then I'm 724 00:26:04,045 --> 00:26:05,964 like and then I see my boss, and 725 00:26:05,964 --> 00:26:07,804 she's like, I have the principal. On the 726 00:26:07,804 --> 00:26:10,224 snow day, they had the principal call. 727 00:26:10,765 --> 00:26:12,605 Oh, that's right. They they did. They said 728 00:26:12,605 --> 00:26:14,125 they it said they were like, oh, wait. 729 00:26:14,125 --> 00:26:15,904 We wanna clarify something. 730 00:26:16,319 --> 00:26:16,819 Yeah. 731 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,519 Yeah. No. I'm on the I'm I'm frequently 732 00:26:19,519 --> 00:26:21,359 on those calls. Feel free to, like, text 733 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,679 me, like we used to oh, that's one 734 00:26:23,679 --> 00:26:25,220 thing I have missed is, 735 00:26:25,599 --> 00:26:27,359 getting you in trouble in staff meetings. In 736 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:28,339 a staff meeting. 737 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:30,585 And now we can do it because it 738 00:26:30,585 --> 00:26:32,984 was on those call. No. So yeah. I 739 00:26:32,984 --> 00:26:34,825 don't I don't wanna get in trouble on 740 00:26:34,825 --> 00:26:36,984 those staff meeting on those meetings. No. I'll 741 00:26:36,984 --> 00:26:38,105 just do it through text. 742 00:26:38,505 --> 00:26:40,505 They they keep you muted anyway. No. I 743 00:26:40,505 --> 00:26:43,464 think that I that's that's so interesting too 744 00:26:43,464 --> 00:26:45,565 because because, like, what you're describing, 745 00:26:46,420 --> 00:26:49,640 I've actually learned through my work with aspiring 746 00:26:49,700 --> 00:26:50,200 educators 747 00:26:50,900 --> 00:26:52,279 is that what 748 00:26:52,980 --> 00:26:55,220 your experience is what the it's what the 749 00:26:55,220 --> 00:26:58,180 experience should be. We should be growing our 750 00:26:58,180 --> 00:27:01,505 own. We should be elevating people into 751 00:27:02,125 --> 00:27:04,865 classroom teacher roles from paraprofessional 752 00:27:05,244 --> 00:27:07,484 roles or other types of roles, and then 753 00:27:07,484 --> 00:27:10,944 elevating teachers into teacher leadership roles and elevating 754 00:27:11,005 --> 00:27:13,279 those folks into building leadership roles, like that's 755 00:27:13,279 --> 00:27:13,779 actually 756 00:27:14,559 --> 00:27:16,559 that's not a bug. That should be a 757 00:27:16,559 --> 00:27:19,220 feature Yep. Of how we retain 758 00:27:19,599 --> 00:27:22,079 leaders. And so I think that's a really 759 00:27:22,079 --> 00:27:23,779 important data point for 760 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,579 this notion of how we, 761 00:27:27,015 --> 00:27:28,634 particularly BIPOC leaders, 762 00:27:29,015 --> 00:27:32,315 like, how we promote and support BIPOC leaders. 763 00:27:33,654 --> 00:27:34,555 It should be, 764 00:27:35,174 --> 00:27:37,575 you know, FUBU, right, for us bias. That 765 00:27:37,575 --> 00:27:39,255 that yeah. That I mean, I think that 766 00:27:39,255 --> 00:27:41,359 makes a difference. I think it it gives 767 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:41,859 perspective. 768 00:27:43,039 --> 00:27:44,480 And not to say that I got all 769 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,960 the answers. Like I said, I'm learning a 770 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:48,500 lot every day. 771 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,440 I I I walk into situations. I don't 772 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,059 know if you can relate to this aspect 773 00:27:53,519 --> 00:27:54,500 where I'm like, 774 00:27:55,039 --> 00:27:57,894 like, I'm like, I have no clue of 775 00:27:57,894 --> 00:28:00,134 what I'm doing. Like, I'm I'm you know, 776 00:28:00,134 --> 00:28:02,375 like, last year when I was the access 777 00:28:02,375 --> 00:28:02,875 cell 778 00:28:03,255 --> 00:28:05,975 for, the access assessment Go get it. I 779 00:28:05,975 --> 00:28:08,055 was like, okay. And I'm like, you know 780 00:28:08,215 --> 00:28:10,295 and, thankfully, like, I had tons of people. 781 00:28:10,295 --> 00:28:10,875 I could 782 00:28:11,779 --> 00:28:14,119 is so great to me and, like, answering 783 00:28:14,179 --> 00:28:14,919 my questions, 784 00:28:15,220 --> 00:28:15,720 like, 785 00:28:16,099 --> 00:28:18,019 and telling me, like, where I could have 786 00:28:18,019 --> 00:28:20,500 found it in the PowerPoint that they gave 787 00:28:20,500 --> 00:28:21,000 me. 788 00:28:21,539 --> 00:28:23,240 You know? Like, even the 789 00:28:23,539 --> 00:28:25,160 but but still, like, 790 00:28:25,755 --> 00:28:27,914 it it's good because it gives me it's 791 00:28:27,914 --> 00:28:30,255 giving me greater perspective. By doing that, 792 00:28:31,355 --> 00:28:32,174 I understood 793 00:28:33,195 --> 00:28:35,115 the importance even more, and I always thought 794 00:28:35,115 --> 00:28:37,055 it was important to support our MLLs. 795 00:28:37,595 --> 00:28:39,820 But just, like, I was like, oh, I 796 00:28:39,820 --> 00:28:41,519 really was doing some good 797 00:28:41,820 --> 00:28:44,160 stuff when I was, you know, using 798 00:28:44,539 --> 00:28:46,640 lots of regalia and and lots of, 799 00:28:47,420 --> 00:28:50,380 you know, sentence frames with kids and giving 800 00:28:50,380 --> 00:28:53,474 them the opportunity to talk before they wrote 801 00:28:53,934 --> 00:28:56,174 and and plan ideas and stuff and hear 802 00:28:56,174 --> 00:28:57,634 from other people and collaborate, 803 00:28:58,255 --> 00:28:58,815 you know, 804 00:28:59,375 --> 00:29:01,134 to see that stuff, to seeing, like, the 805 00:29:01,134 --> 00:29:04,355 importance of this year, I'm a CMAS South, 806 00:29:04,654 --> 00:29:06,994 and so, like, really working around accommodations. 807 00:29:07,375 --> 00:29:10,069 Right? And the the the importance of those 808 00:29:10,069 --> 00:29:11,369 accommodations is really 809 00:29:11,829 --> 00:29:15,049 an equitable learning experience for all kids. Right? 810 00:29:15,269 --> 00:29:15,769 Yeah. 811 00:29:16,069 --> 00:29:18,549 And it's something that I I wouldn't have 812 00:29:18,549 --> 00:29:21,190 appreciated in the same way. And so, like, 813 00:29:21,190 --> 00:29:24,444 whereas, like, a studies teacher, I could appreciate, 814 00:29:24,444 --> 00:29:25,825 you know, my role 815 00:29:26,204 --> 00:29:27,804 and the things like that happened in the 816 00:29:27,804 --> 00:29:29,585 language arts class. Like, I couldn't appreciate 817 00:29:30,204 --> 00:29:32,684 the math department like I do now. And, 818 00:29:32,684 --> 00:29:34,950 like, what they are pushing to do and 819 00:29:35,269 --> 00:29:37,669 and and really have the kids doing and 820 00:29:37,669 --> 00:29:40,549 and, you know, you know, the way like, 821 00:29:40,549 --> 00:29:42,549 I'm I'm privileged of sitting in on our 822 00:29:42,549 --> 00:29:43,769 English language arts, 823 00:29:44,630 --> 00:29:47,369 department's DDI team, and they are, like, just 824 00:29:47,945 --> 00:29:50,664 beast with that data. Like, just they just 825 00:29:50,664 --> 00:29:53,224 break it down and and and just I 826 00:29:53,224 --> 00:29:55,384 was just producing ideas to help the kids 827 00:29:55,384 --> 00:29:55,884 grow. 828 00:29:56,345 --> 00:29:58,664 And and I don't think people always see 829 00:29:58,664 --> 00:30:00,365 that, the work that teachers 830 00:30:00,664 --> 00:30:01,325 are putting 831 00:30:02,259 --> 00:30:05,960 into it to to create really thoughtful learning 832 00:30:06,019 --> 00:30:10,039 experiences for kids. Right? And and, also, like, 833 00:30:10,660 --> 00:30:11,559 now being, 834 00:30:12,500 --> 00:30:14,519 the the old head, right, 835 00:30:14,914 --> 00:30:16,054 watching the youngsters, 836 00:30:16,355 --> 00:30:18,454 like, there's this whole new like, 837 00:30:18,835 --> 00:30:20,755 I love the new young teachers that are 838 00:30:20,755 --> 00:30:22,914 coming in, and they're bringing, like, this energy, 839 00:30:22,914 --> 00:30:25,234 and they're like, yo. Let's do the work. 840 00:30:25,234 --> 00:30:26,994 Let's do the thing. It's a hard time 841 00:30:26,994 --> 00:30:28,829 to come into this work. It is. For 842 00:30:28,829 --> 00:30:30,829 real. And they're coming in ready to do 843 00:30:30,829 --> 00:30:33,470 it, ready to grind. They are. We're gonna 844 00:30:33,470 --> 00:30:34,690 take a quick break, 845 00:30:36,029 --> 00:30:37,890 to appease our corporate overlords, 846 00:30:39,069 --> 00:30:39,569 and, 847 00:30:40,349 --> 00:30:41,809 we will be back on 848 00:30:42,174 --> 00:30:44,015 the other side. So, Kev, I bet those 849 00:30:44,015 --> 00:30:45,634 young teachers are not 850 00:30:46,015 --> 00:30:48,815 thinking about their financial future right now. Alright? 851 00:30:48,815 --> 00:30:49,474 You know, 852 00:30:50,654 --> 00:30:52,654 well, they're thinking about it or they're look 853 00:30:52,974 --> 00:30:55,055 They're they're thinking about it and saying, like, 854 00:30:55,055 --> 00:30:56,509 this is not good. This 855 00:30:56,890 --> 00:30:59,450 is not They're they're they're, maybe thinking about 856 00:30:59,450 --> 00:31:01,609 it is the wrong phrase. Maybe they're dreading 857 00:31:01,609 --> 00:31:02,490 it. They're, 858 00:31:02,970 --> 00:31:06,009 wallowing in it. They're resigned to their financial 859 00:31:06,009 --> 00:31:06,509 future. 860 00:31:06,809 --> 00:31:10,269 Well, you know, our homies core, 861 00:31:10,970 --> 00:31:12,914 how do I not, like, remember their names? 862 00:31:13,134 --> 00:31:15,714 Alex and Tory Sierra at Terra Investors, 863 00:31:16,734 --> 00:31:19,234 actually have some pretty good news for 864 00:31:19,535 --> 00:31:20,035 teachers, 865 00:31:21,134 --> 00:31:24,595 even early career teachers who just got in 866 00:31:25,009 --> 00:31:25,669 the game. 867 00:31:26,849 --> 00:31:27,349 So, 868 00:31:27,889 --> 00:31:29,809 as as you know and this is actually 869 00:31:29,809 --> 00:31:31,730 kind of a cool idea like especially with 870 00:31:31,730 --> 00:31:34,629 this election man, like the best way to, 871 00:31:35,169 --> 00:31:36,450 end up with a whole with a whole 872 00:31:36,450 --> 00:31:37,889 lot of money is to inherit a whole 873 00:31:37,889 --> 00:31:39,954 lot money. Like, that's really the that's really 874 00:31:39,954 --> 00:31:41,575 the path forward for most people. 875 00:31:41,954 --> 00:31:45,234 But Alex and Tory are really dedicated to 876 00:31:45,234 --> 00:31:48,115 making sure that you, yes, you and me 877 00:31:48,115 --> 00:31:49,095 and all y'all, 878 00:31:49,795 --> 00:31:51,174 can start building 879 00:31:51,634 --> 00:31:52,855 generational wealth 880 00:31:53,230 --> 00:31:54,769 through their super unique 881 00:31:56,109 --> 00:31:57,250 subscription based 882 00:31:57,710 --> 00:31:58,210 system. 883 00:31:58,990 --> 00:32:02,349 Alex knows more about pension systems frankly than 884 00:32:02,349 --> 00:32:03,950 I do, and I could retire in a 885 00:32:03,950 --> 00:32:04,450 year. 886 00:32:04,829 --> 00:32:07,389 That he studied pension systems all over the 887 00:32:07,389 --> 00:32:09,674 place. He understands what we need to be 888 00:32:09,674 --> 00:32:10,174 doing. 889 00:32:10,555 --> 00:32:12,795 Tori is actually a super dope entrepreneur, and 890 00:32:12,795 --> 00:32:14,954 I actually interviewed her a while back, and 891 00:32:14,954 --> 00:32:16,095 we'll we'll get her, 892 00:32:16,714 --> 00:32:18,015 story out here too. 893 00:32:18,634 --> 00:32:21,934 So if you are interested in learning more, 894 00:32:22,130 --> 00:32:23,910 go to the link in the show notes, 895 00:32:24,289 --> 00:32:25,750 Tori and Alex at ceterainvestors.com/t00d0pe 896 00:32:29,490 --> 00:32:30,390 to get 25% 897 00:32:30,769 --> 00:32:34,230 off of certain services that they offer. 898 00:32:34,930 --> 00:32:35,430 And 899 00:32:36,494 --> 00:32:37,474 we are back. 900 00:32:38,174 --> 00:32:39,634 Alright, y'all. We're gonna, 901 00:32:40,095 --> 00:32:42,755 close things out here with a couple of 902 00:32:42,974 --> 00:32:45,234 things. Kev, I'm thinking we can 903 00:32:45,535 --> 00:32:47,934 talk a little bit about some takeaways about 904 00:32:47,934 --> 00:32:48,835 where we're at 905 00:32:49,190 --> 00:32:49,690 and, 906 00:32:50,390 --> 00:32:52,170 sort of how we're we're reflecting 907 00:32:53,190 --> 00:32:55,930 on just kinda what the path forward is, 908 00:32:56,470 --> 00:32:57,609 at the moment. So 909 00:32:58,150 --> 00:33:00,170 I think you and I have 910 00:33:01,535 --> 00:33:02,035 realized 911 00:33:02,815 --> 00:33:03,315 almost 912 00:33:03,855 --> 00:33:05,075 opposite things 913 00:33:05,855 --> 00:33:06,515 in education 914 00:33:07,454 --> 00:33:10,115 that are really important. I think for you, 915 00:33:10,654 --> 00:33:12,815 you rose up into a leadership role, and 916 00:33:12,815 --> 00:33:14,275 it has not been easy. 917 00:33:14,815 --> 00:33:16,035 But you came 918 00:33:17,339 --> 00:33:19,519 from a place that was familiar with you 919 00:33:19,900 --> 00:33:21,740 and you were able to kind of, like, 920 00:33:21,740 --> 00:33:23,500 you get a lot of grace because people 921 00:33:23,500 --> 00:33:24,779 know who you are and they know that 922 00:33:24,779 --> 00:33:27,900 you're legit. Yep. When I started my central 923 00:33:27,900 --> 00:33:28,799 office job, 924 00:33:29,505 --> 00:33:33,045 it was right after the district had reorganized 925 00:33:33,345 --> 00:33:35,424 Yep. And a whole bunch of people lost 926 00:33:35,424 --> 00:33:36,644 their positions, and 927 00:33:36,945 --> 00:33:39,125 like it was literally me, 928 00:33:39,664 --> 00:33:41,765 my director who had just been appointed, 929 00:33:42,065 --> 00:33:43,445 and the manager of operations 930 00:33:44,250 --> 00:33:45,789 looking at each other like, 931 00:33:46,329 --> 00:33:48,170 what are we doing? What is this work? 932 00:33:48,170 --> 00:33:49,849 What are we supposed to be doing? And 933 00:33:49,849 --> 00:33:51,470 it was really bumpy because 934 00:33:52,009 --> 00:33:54,349 it was a completely new kind of environment. 935 00:33:56,105 --> 00:33:58,184 For me, I think one of the things 936 00:33:58,184 --> 00:34:01,085 that just keeps on resonating for me 937 00:34:01,545 --> 00:34:03,865 is that as much as I love being 938 00:34:03,865 --> 00:34:05,244 a teacher and as 939 00:34:05,545 --> 00:34:06,765 and as, like, 940 00:34:07,065 --> 00:34:07,565 as 941 00:34:08,025 --> 00:34:08,525 critically 942 00:34:09,224 --> 00:34:09,724 important 943 00:34:10,420 --> 00:34:11,239 as our teachers 944 00:34:11,780 --> 00:34:12,519 are to 945 00:34:13,860 --> 00:34:16,659 to just the survival of our world, man, 946 00:34:16,659 --> 00:34:17,719 especially now. 947 00:34:19,460 --> 00:34:19,960 I 948 00:34:21,059 --> 00:34:23,300 became very exhausted at kind of the rinse 949 00:34:23,300 --> 00:34:25,300 and repeat nature of what I was seeing 950 00:34:25,300 --> 00:34:27,954 every day. Right? Yep. Like, you come into 951 00:34:27,954 --> 00:34:29,635 the school, you know some kids are struggling. 952 00:34:29,635 --> 00:34:31,815 You know some kids are dealing with very 953 00:34:32,034 --> 00:34:32,534 real 954 00:34:33,394 --> 00:34:36,054 just challenges and barriers and 955 00:34:36,434 --> 00:34:38,275 harm and trauma and all that kind of 956 00:34:38,275 --> 00:34:40,460 stuff. And so you take a kid through 957 00:34:40,460 --> 00:34:42,480 it, you can take some kids through it 958 00:34:43,179 --> 00:34:44,859 like over the course of the day, a 959 00:34:44,859 --> 00:34:46,799 week, a month, a school year, 960 00:34:47,339 --> 00:34:49,179 and then and then they move on, and 961 00:34:49,179 --> 00:34:51,339 then there's new kids with new needs and 962 00:34:51,339 --> 00:34:53,204 new challenges and all that kind of stuff. 963 00:34:53,285 --> 00:34:55,844 Yep. And I think for me, getting stuck 964 00:34:55,844 --> 00:34:58,265 in that cycle just got really exhausting. 965 00:34:58,805 --> 00:35:00,025 Yep. It's hard. 966 00:35:00,724 --> 00:35:01,864 I feel like 967 00:35:02,164 --> 00:35:04,085 I'm in a space I mean, those of 968 00:35:04,085 --> 00:35:06,425 you who still have the passion and the 969 00:35:06,724 --> 00:35:08,425 energy to be in buildings, 970 00:35:09,819 --> 00:35:11,900 I was gonna say 247. Oh, no. Don't 971 00:35:11,900 --> 00:35:12,719 do that. 247. 972 00:35:13,500 --> 00:35:15,280 This week, it feels like I've been there. 973 00:35:15,339 --> 00:35:15,839 247. 974 00:35:16,699 --> 00:35:18,539 Like like, you all have a type of 975 00:35:18,539 --> 00:35:21,420 resolve and energy that I just don't have 976 00:35:21,420 --> 00:35:22,275 anymore, but 977 00:35:23,154 --> 00:35:24,614 I am finding that 978 00:35:25,074 --> 00:35:27,154 with a couple of keystrokes, I can change 979 00:35:27,154 --> 00:35:30,194 things. Like, we didn't used to have any 980 00:35:30,194 --> 00:35:31,734 language as to whether 981 00:35:32,114 --> 00:35:32,775 a paraprofessional 982 00:35:33,635 --> 00:35:35,635 could do our para to teach your program 983 00:35:35,635 --> 00:35:37,719 and if they were a half time para. 984 00:35:37,779 --> 00:35:39,779 And then I started reflecting, well, maybe they're 985 00:35:39,779 --> 00:35:40,760 a half time para 986 00:35:41,219 --> 00:35:41,719 because 987 00:35:42,260 --> 00:35:43,400 they have other responsibilities. 988 00:35:43,779 --> 00:35:46,179 That's right. That's right. This is what they 989 00:35:46,179 --> 00:35:48,099 can manage, and they need to get a 990 00:35:48,099 --> 00:35:49,239 leg up. And so 991 00:35:49,940 --> 00:35:51,639 I created a policy. 992 00:35:52,275 --> 00:35:55,474 And I love that. It's in writing. It's 993 00:35:55,474 --> 00:35:57,974 in our standard operating procedures handbook. 994 00:35:58,355 --> 00:36:00,755 And anyone who wants to undo that policy 995 00:36:00,755 --> 00:36:02,434 has to come in and read it and 996 00:36:02,434 --> 00:36:04,434 make sense of it and reflect on it. 997 00:36:04,434 --> 00:36:06,949 Like it's it's not gonna be easy to 998 00:36:06,949 --> 00:36:09,109 reverse the things that I feel like my 999 00:36:09,109 --> 00:36:11,109 team and I have put into place. And 1000 00:36:11,109 --> 00:36:11,929 so I think 1001 00:36:12,230 --> 00:36:14,389 having some breathing room to really step back 1002 00:36:14,389 --> 00:36:15,130 and evaluate 1003 00:36:15,670 --> 00:36:17,210 the systems that we have 1004 00:36:17,510 --> 00:36:18,250 and say, 1005 00:36:18,655 --> 00:36:20,575 is this really the best system for what 1006 00:36:20,575 --> 00:36:21,555 we need to do? 1007 00:36:22,974 --> 00:36:25,135 And oh it's up to me because frankly 1008 00:36:25,135 --> 00:36:27,695 most folks have no idea what happens on 1009 00:36:27,695 --> 00:36:30,115 an operational level in a large school district. 1010 00:36:30,335 --> 00:36:31,795 Yep. So I can 1011 00:36:32,130 --> 00:36:34,369 say I'm just I'm gonna move this thing. 1012 00:36:34,369 --> 00:36:35,989 I'm gonna change this thing. And 1013 00:36:36,369 --> 00:36:37,889 I think for the for the first time 1014 00:36:37,889 --> 00:36:39,489 in a very long time, I feel like 1015 00:36:39,489 --> 00:36:40,949 I'm impacting change. 1016 00:36:41,329 --> 00:36:43,089 I love that. I love that. I think 1017 00:36:43,089 --> 00:36:44,789 that's so important, you know, 1018 00:36:47,304 --> 00:36:49,085 that you you you're recognizing 1019 00:36:49,465 --> 00:36:50,204 that ability 1020 00:36:50,744 --> 00:36:52,344 and and acting on it. You know what 1021 00:36:52,344 --> 00:36:54,025 I mean? Because I think there's a lot 1022 00:36:54,025 --> 00:36:55,864 of people question is, like, who's, who can 1023 00:36:55,864 --> 00:36:57,324 stop me? Nobody? Swimming. 1024 00:36:57,625 --> 00:37:00,019 Let's do this. Do this. Okay. Let's do 1025 00:37:00,019 --> 00:37:01,460 this. Right? And I and shout out to 1026 00:37:01,460 --> 00:37:03,699 my team because my team is also very 1027 00:37:03,699 --> 00:37:05,079 encouraging in this way 1028 00:37:05,460 --> 00:37:08,339 even to the one who challenges everything that 1029 00:37:08,339 --> 00:37:09,000 I say. 1030 00:37:09,300 --> 00:37:10,579 She's just trying to make sure I don't 1031 00:37:10,579 --> 00:37:11,719 get fired. Fired. 1032 00:37:12,019 --> 00:37:13,619 No. I love that. Like, one of one 1033 00:37:13,619 --> 00:37:14,359 of the greatest 1034 00:37:15,065 --> 00:37:17,704 things that that my, current leader has said 1035 00:37:17,704 --> 00:37:19,805 to me is, like, embrace your a penis. 1036 00:37:20,105 --> 00:37:22,425 You know? Like, embrace it. Like, you you're 1037 00:37:22,425 --> 00:37:23,485 here for a reason. 1038 00:37:24,025 --> 00:37:26,744 You you're here. You know? And and I 1039 00:37:26,744 --> 00:37:28,985 trust in the decisions that I put you 1040 00:37:28,985 --> 00:37:31,329 in charge to make. Make those decisions. 1041 00:37:31,789 --> 00:37:33,789 Believe in yourself. You know? And and I 1042 00:37:33,789 --> 00:37:35,650 think that was a really important thing 1043 00:37:36,110 --> 00:37:37,570 for me to hear because, 1044 00:37:37,869 --> 00:37:39,550 you know, regardless of what we say, you 1045 00:37:39,550 --> 00:37:41,550 always feel like, you know, I'm like, I 1046 00:37:41,550 --> 00:37:43,789 really belong here. Am I really supposed to 1047 00:37:43,789 --> 00:37:45,855 be in this room? Like, I still remember 1048 00:37:45,855 --> 00:37:46,914 going to the 1049 00:37:47,534 --> 00:37:50,434 new leader or edgy new leader orientation. 1050 00:37:50,735 --> 00:37:52,574 Right? And I'm sitting in this building, and 1051 00:37:52,574 --> 00:37:53,235 I'm like, 1052 00:37:53,614 --> 00:37:55,454 I know a lot of you. Like, I 1053 00:37:55,695 --> 00:37:58,574 and I'm like, I'm here. I'm here now. 1054 00:37:58,574 --> 00:38:01,190 Like, I'm I'm I'm a leader, you know, 1055 00:38:02,609 --> 00:38:04,869 in this district, in my building. 1056 00:38:05,489 --> 00:38:05,889 And, 1057 00:38:07,090 --> 00:38:09,409 it feels good, and and that idea of 1058 00:38:09,409 --> 00:38:11,744 really being able to impact change and 1059 00:38:12,305 --> 00:38:15,345 and and and to make decisions that'll that'll 1060 00:38:15,345 --> 00:38:16,164 be beneficial, 1061 00:38:16,785 --> 00:38:18,644 that I know will benefit students, 1062 00:38:19,664 --> 00:38:21,125 will benefit educators, 1063 00:38:21,905 --> 00:38:24,005 I think that that's that's, like, 1064 00:38:24,545 --> 00:38:26,005 a really important part, 1065 00:38:26,465 --> 00:38:26,965 because 1066 00:38:27,380 --> 00:38:30,360 because a teacher's job is is not easy. 1067 00:38:30,739 --> 00:38:32,519 It's not easy. And I know 1068 00:38:32,980 --> 00:38:34,679 all, so many teachers 1069 00:38:35,140 --> 00:38:37,219 are so great that they make it look 1070 00:38:37,219 --> 00:38:39,059 easy. Yeah. I think that's And I think 1071 00:38:39,059 --> 00:38:40,900 that's part of the problem. Yeah. And you're 1072 00:38:40,900 --> 00:38:43,644 like, oh, this wasn't easy. Like, I know 1073 00:38:43,644 --> 00:38:45,644 I know I'm I look like I'm just 1074 00:38:45,644 --> 00:38:47,964 making it happen. I always used to say 1075 00:38:47,964 --> 00:38:48,944 I I'm like, 1076 00:38:49,244 --> 00:38:51,184 I'm I'm the, the swan. 1077 00:38:51,644 --> 00:38:53,984 I look very graceful above water. 1078 00:38:54,525 --> 00:38:55,424 No one below. 1079 00:38:56,125 --> 00:38:57,904 I'm kicking like a lunatic. 1080 00:38:59,380 --> 00:39:02,179 Yeah. Fortunately, in Myspace, my struggles are very 1081 00:39:02,179 --> 00:39:02,679 well, 1082 00:39:03,219 --> 00:39:03,719 identified. 1083 00:39:04,900 --> 00:39:06,579 But I think, like, I think too 1084 00:39:06,980 --> 00:39:08,519 this is just my own opinion. 1085 00:39:08,820 --> 00:39:11,505 I never found teaching to be easy, but 1086 00:39:11,505 --> 00:39:12,565 teaching always felt 1087 00:39:12,944 --> 00:39:14,085 simple and straightforward. 1088 00:39:14,625 --> 00:39:17,264 It's like this is what the focus is 1089 00:39:17,264 --> 00:39:19,025 is what we're doing today. This is what 1090 00:39:19,025 --> 00:39:20,864 I need to be doing in this 90 1091 00:39:20,864 --> 00:39:23,344 minutes, in this quarter, in this semester with 1092 00:39:23,344 --> 00:39:23,844 students. 1093 00:39:24,289 --> 00:39:26,530 And in my space, it feels a lot 1094 00:39:26,530 --> 00:39:28,609 more ambiguous, which you would think I would 1095 00:39:28,609 --> 00:39:29,109 like, 1096 00:39:29,489 --> 00:39:31,730 but it's been kinda wild. But There's certain 1097 00:39:31,730 --> 00:39:32,230 times 1098 00:39:33,170 --> 00:39:35,489 certain times where you like the ambiguity, and 1099 00:39:35,489 --> 00:39:37,489 then other times you're like, I have these 1100 00:39:37,489 --> 00:39:38,469 days where I'm like, 1101 00:39:39,125 --> 00:39:40,804 I've I I don't know what I got 1102 00:39:40,804 --> 00:39:43,045 done today. Yeah. I can't do My my 1103 00:39:43,045 --> 00:39:44,804 whole thing there I have these moments where 1104 00:39:44,804 --> 00:39:47,364 I'm kinda like I'm literally just walking around 1105 00:39:47,364 --> 00:39:50,505 this building completely unsupervised. And, like, 1106 00:39:50,804 --> 00:39:52,804 I'm just here. I'm just walking in. I 1107 00:39:52,804 --> 00:39:54,539 feel like What are you doing? Like I 1108 00:39:54,699 --> 00:39:55,440 can disappear. 1109 00:39:55,739 --> 00:39:57,260 What is your If I say if I 1110 00:39:57,260 --> 00:39:58,239 say my market. 1111 00:39:58,780 --> 00:40:00,380 My director will text me, where are you? 1112 00:40:00,380 --> 00:40:02,640 I'm like, off-site. And they're like, okay. 1113 00:40:03,019 --> 00:40:05,340 That's been an adjustment. That's been an adjustment 1114 00:40:05,340 --> 00:40:07,755 for me. I'm still not good at, like, 1115 00:40:08,234 --> 00:40:10,554 you can go someplace. You don't have to 1116 00:40:10,554 --> 00:40:12,094 be here the whole time. 1117 00:40:12,474 --> 00:40:14,554 Well, right. And, yeah, it's just like sitting 1118 00:40:14,554 --> 00:40:16,574 there and then getting overstimulated 1119 00:40:17,275 --> 00:40:20,174 and, like, coming up with crazy stuff. 1120 00:40:21,059 --> 00:40:22,280 So, you know, 1121 00:40:23,380 --> 00:40:24,519 I will say, sir, 1122 00:40:25,380 --> 00:40:27,480 as we run up against time, 1123 00:40:27,860 --> 00:40:30,019 it's just great to still be in this 1124 00:40:30,019 --> 00:40:32,099 work with you even if we're not doing 1125 00:40:32,099 --> 00:40:34,019 the same thing anymore. And I'm actually really 1126 00:40:34,019 --> 00:40:34,519 excited 1127 00:40:35,054 --> 00:40:35,554 for, 1128 00:40:37,214 --> 00:40:38,414 I don't know what is it what our 1129 00:40:38,414 --> 00:40:40,194 collaboration looks like going forward. 1130 00:40:41,614 --> 00:40:43,315 But we're in here, mostly. 1131 00:40:43,934 --> 00:40:45,775 Here, kind of, over. But I think we 1132 00:40:45,775 --> 00:40:47,719 got we got big stuff. There's still stuff 1133 00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:49,319 that people don't know about that we've talked 1134 00:40:49,319 --> 00:40:52,539 about that we've never done. And so, like, 1135 00:40:52,599 --> 00:40:53,260 I think 1136 00:40:53,799 --> 00:40:54,940 we are in a position 1137 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,659 where where we can we can we can 1138 00:40:58,519 --> 00:41:00,460 be bold. We can be ambitious. 1139 00:41:01,159 --> 00:41:02,380 We can be audacious. 1140 00:41:03,244 --> 00:41:05,244 Yeah. Like and and and I think we, 1141 00:41:05,244 --> 00:41:05,905 you know, 1142 00:41:06,285 --> 00:41:08,525 we're standing on the precipice of something big. 1143 00:41:08,525 --> 00:41:10,285 Right? I agree. I agree. 1144 00:41:10,925 --> 00:41:12,684 For those of you who are hoping to 1145 00:41:12,684 --> 00:41:15,005 hear something about school closures in in our 1146 00:41:15,005 --> 00:41:16,785 district, we will be dedicating, 1147 00:41:17,324 --> 00:41:19,619 a full episode to that, in the next 1148 00:41:19,619 --> 00:41:20,599 few days. 1149 00:41:20,980 --> 00:41:21,480 For 1150 00:41:22,019 --> 00:41:24,500 Kevin Adams, my name is Henrik Munoz. Thank 1151 00:41:24,500 --> 00:41:27,059 you for listening to us. Wanna remind you 1152 00:41:27,059 --> 00:41:29,380 today and forever, no matter what your role 1153 00:41:29,380 --> 00:41:30,519 is, always 1154 00:41:31,619 --> 00:41:32,119 stay 1155 00:41:32,980 --> 00:41:33,960 dope. Oh.