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Alexander Hira, 26 00:01:29,060 --> 00:01:33,800 CCF P is located at 6 0 5 East Huntington Drive, suite 2 0 3, 27 00:01:33,960 --> 00:01:36,840 Monrovia, California 9 1 0 1 6. 28 00:01:37,340 --> 00:01:39,160 And can be reached at phone number 29 00:01:39,500 --> 00:01:42,880 (626) 408-1333. 30 00:01:43,470 --> 00:01:45,920 Extension 3 0 6. 31 00:02:12,140 --> 00:02:16,280 Hey, yo. What's up buddy? I'm here with my friend. 32 00:02:16,340 --> 00:02:17,520 Can I call you my friend every morning? 33 00:02:17,870 --> 00:02:19,200 Yeah. What rest do you find. 34 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:20,400 Out? Oh, aren't we? 35 00:02:20,420 --> 00:02:22,040 We hung out. We hung out in real life. 36 00:02:22,380 --> 00:02:24,760 We, we kicked it in real life. Yeah. Like there's some, 37 00:02:24,870 --> 00:02:28,480 there's some really cool people. That's right. We did. Yeah. That's amazing. 38 00:02:28,940 --> 00:02:29,773 And you, 39 00:02:29,860 --> 00:02:34,160 you were subjected to watching me and Chris speak and that was like amazing to 40 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:37,520 have you there, . Um, so we were so starstruck. Actually, I'm, 41 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:40,760 we're kind of like, bro, bro, that's, that's Sarah Beth Rosenberg. 42 00:02:41,380 --> 00:02:42,720 You're gassing me as a, what are we. 43 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,640 Doing? Doing? No, no. It's like, it's like true because I'm kind like, oh. 44 00:02:45,700 --> 00:02:49,440 And she's sitting in front. So, um, folks, 45 00:02:50,020 --> 00:02:54,480 we are here with my bestie, uh, Sarah Rosenberg, sir, how are you? 46 00:02:55,220 --> 00:02:59,040 I'm doing great. It's Thursday, we got, it's almost been through a full week. I, 47 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,960 I think, is it the second or first or second? Full week of school, so, okay. 48 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:06,400 Nothing feels like that Thursday night when, you know, Friday's coming, you. 49 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:10,640 Know. No. Yeah. We, around here we call it, uh, Friday Junior. Yes. Um, 50 00:03:10,740 --> 00:03:13,480 so it's not a full-grown Friday yet, but you, you can see the potential. 51 00:03:13,540 --> 00:03:13,860 You can. 52 00:03:13,860 --> 00:03:15,720 You can taste it. It you can taste it. 53 00:03:16,220 --> 00:03:20,080 You can taste it. So many good tastes on a Friday also. Oh yeah. So much. Um, 54 00:03:20,100 --> 00:03:22,320 is . So, um, 55 00:03:22,740 --> 00:03:27,080 so I've been following Sarah on social media for a while now, 56 00:03:27,380 --> 00:03:31,360 and it's just so excited and ex excited. You can tell it's been a long week. 57 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:35,600 It's so exciting, um, to have her here to kind of share some of her work. 58 00:03:36,180 --> 00:03:39,680 Um, hopefully you also follow her work and, um, 59 00:03:39,740 --> 00:03:41,720 at the end of this conversation, you'll, 60 00:03:42,060 --> 00:03:44,600 you'll find out where to follow her if you don't know where to follow, 61 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:45,800 which I don't understand, like, 62 00:03:45,860 --> 00:03:49,280 or even on the internet if you don't know how to follow her. Sarah Rosenberg. 63 00:03:49,660 --> 00:03:53,560 Um, so you are in the big Apple? 64 00:03:54,300 --> 00:03:56,080 Yes, I am. I'm here in New York City. 65 00:03:56,540 --> 00:04:00,880 New York's city, New York City, my daughter. Fun. Not super relevant story. 66 00:04:00,940 --> 00:04:05,000 My daughter always dreamt of going to college in New York City. Um, 67 00:04:05,540 --> 00:04:08,000 but I don't know if this you're gonna find this hurtful or not, 68 00:04:08,060 --> 00:04:09,360 but then she experienced Chicago. 69 00:04:11,300 --> 00:04:13,400 And she's like, I'm already hurt. I'm already hurt. I wanna be. 70 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,360 Here. I wanna be here. So she is in school in Chicago. . Okay. 71 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:19,960 I don't wanna disrespect my Chicago friends, but Yeah. I'll just, 72 00:04:20,070 --> 00:04:21,800 I'll just keep my mouth shut. I, I don't. 73 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:26,120 Know. You're like, I mean, New York picking Chicago over N y c I mean, 74 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:27,800 that's a choice. That's a choice. It's. 75 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:31,400 A choice. And she's an artist. Okay. Sorry. Chicago. I live in, 76 00:04:31,540 --> 00:04:34,760 I'm a New Yorker, you know. Okay. She'll come no hate. She'll come here after, 77 00:04:34,850 --> 00:04:35,560 after college. 78 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,680 I mean, maybe grad school, maybe she just wasn't ready for N Y C. Maybe. 79 00:04:39,050 --> 00:04:41,560 She's like, yeah, you know, I need to gradually, 80 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,040 I need scaffolding to get to Yes. 81 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:47,720 N yc, like, Chicago's like a baby step city. Just kidding. Ha. 82 00:04:48,620 --> 00:04:50,280 Hey, much love to the Chicagoans. 83 00:04:50,380 --> 00:04:51,680 We love you. We love you. Um. 84 00:04:52,580 --> 00:04:56,920 So the, it's, I'm just so interested to hear some of what you just, 85 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:00,360 what your path has been in this work, because in some ways, 86 00:05:01,020 --> 00:05:05,400 the way that you show up for your profession and in your profession is 87 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:10,160 completely antithetical to what they tell you to do. , right? Yeah. Um, 88 00:05:10,500 --> 00:05:14,320 and so we're gonna get there in just a little bit. But, um, Sarah, I, 89 00:05:14,420 --> 00:05:18,320 and I know this is like problematic for a lot of my teacher friends out here 90 00:05:18,340 --> 00:05:21,640 mm-hmm. , I actually do think that teachers are superheroes. Um, 91 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:24,000 superheroes are not perfect. Superheroes are fallible. 92 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:26,960 Superheroes are vulnerable to the wrong enemy. 93 00:05:26,980 --> 00:05:30,320 And sometimes there's so many enemies that the superhero might experience a 94 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:31,320 defeat . Yeah. 95 00:05:31,460 --> 00:05:36,280 But we know one thing is that every superhero has an origin story. 96 00:05:36,460 --> 00:05:39,320 So Sarah, what's your origin story as. 97 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:40,560 A teacher? My, yeah. Okay. 98 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:45,200 So my origin story is that I always loved history class. Like, 99 00:05:45,220 --> 00:05:49,640 and I was definitely, um, a nerd. And like I thought my p I was, 100 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:53,800 I was a cool nerd, but I loved school, of course, I was obsessed with my grades. 101 00:05:54,280 --> 00:05:57,640 I, you know, I loved high school, enjoyed, you know, know, loved college. 102 00:05:58,300 --> 00:06:02,520 And then, but then out of college, I remember my, one of my advisors, 103 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:07,240 I asked her for career advice. I was a history major and I thought, oh, 104 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:09,360 I'd go to law school maybe. And she said, 105 00:06:09,820 --> 00:06:12,160 you should go teach in the rural south. And I was like, 106 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:17,160 teaching was not even on my menu of things to do in after college. 107 00:06:17,540 --> 00:06:18,920 And I said, okay, sure. Whatever. 108 00:06:19,180 --> 00:06:23,720 And then I decided to go into book publishing because 109 00:06:24,840 --> 00:06:28,600 I loved books. So I was like, okay, I like books. 110 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:32,320 I didn't think about the fact that you don't make much money. I mean, I, 111 00:06:32,350 --> 00:06:34,480 this was the late nineties , right. 112 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:38,080 And late nineties book publishing was not the place to be able to like, 113 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,760 move out of your parents' house and afford rent Right. In New York City. 114 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,320 Or even publish a book. Even publish a book. I was like, 115 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,960 I love or even be able to buy books. I mean, I got them for free. Yeah. I mean, 116 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:50,360 I couldn't afford them. So I did that for about a year or so, and I loved it. 117 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:54,360 And I worked at Penguin Putnam. I mean, I was, I worked at the best of the best. 118 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,560 I got so many Penguin classic books and Viking and all that stuff. 119 00:06:57,860 --> 00:07:02,440 But then this was like the late nineties, and this was the dawn of the web. 120 00:07:02,510 --> 00:07:06,320 They now call the, the kids called Web 1.0. I just called it, 121 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,320 I worked in the internet for the internet on the internet. Like, I don't even, 122 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:11,840 I mean, the internet, when we were, when I was a senior in college, 123 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:13,440 I still didn't know how to get, there was no Google. 124 00:07:13,540 --> 00:07:15,040 It was like a different name. Right. 125 00:07:15,140 --> 00:07:18,160 And I remember the way I got on a website is I asked, I thought, 126 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:21,160 I need to ask an engineer. 'cause they know how like computers work. 127 00:07:21,620 --> 00:07:24,720 And that's how I didn't even know how to use. None of us did. We're like, 128 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:26,440 what is this? You know, like, you get information. 129 00:07:26,900 --> 00:07:30,160 But then within a couple years I was working at a company called, uh, 130 00:07:30,260 --> 00:07:34,600 it doesn't exist anymore. It's called the Virtual Music Vault. Okay. Nevermind. 131 00:07:35,140 --> 00:07:40,040 And not M T V. Not m t V, it was TV Envy. Okay. 132 00:07:40,060 --> 00:07:43,160 So like, that was a mouthful. We'd have to be like the Virt, you know. 133 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:47,680 And we were basically creating a, a network of music websites, 134 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:51,200 artists websites to run ads on. And it was like ahead of its time. 135 00:07:51,220 --> 00:07:54,040 It was ahead of its time. Now. It's something that people can monetize. 136 00:07:54,220 --> 00:07:56,800 We were doing like streaming radio before anyone was, we were, 137 00:07:56,860 --> 00:08:00,360 we had a website called music downloads.com. So enough about that, 138 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,440 I was doing That's cool. Let's just say it was like, I, 139 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:07,200 I didn't really have a specific career path at that point. Mm-hmm. 140 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:09,880 , my job title was like artist development manager. 141 00:08:09,900 --> 00:08:13,480 And I was getting paid better than I would if I worked in the music industry, 142 00:08:13,980 --> 00:08:16,800 but I was working with like, all the teen pop artists of the day. 143 00:08:17,180 --> 00:08:20,320 But I was too cool for it. So now I think it's cool. But back then I was like, 144 00:08:20,460 --> 00:08:24,040 you know, gen X, like these pop bands. So I was working with like, nsync, 145 00:08:24,350 --> 00:08:28,080 Britney Spear, uh, not Britney Spear, Christine Aguilera, not directly, 146 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,280 but we were doing their website. Right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I, 147 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:31,200 I was like coordinating, 148 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,160 I was coordinating with the artist managers to see what ads we could run on 149 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:38,400 their sites. It was like Hanssen, matchbox 20. Good. Charlotte, 150 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:40,920 I remember we got that site. So all these bands and like, 151 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:44,960 I was going to NSYNC meet and greets and like Christina Aguilera looking back, 152 00:08:45,020 --> 00:08:47,440 I'm like, that was so freaking cool. Yeah. But at the time I was like, 153 00:08:47,590 --> 00:08:51,080 this is not cool music. Like, what am I doing? . And, 154 00:08:51,100 --> 00:08:53,400 and it's funny 'cause now I work with people who like, 155 00:08:53,580 --> 00:08:56,720 that's even music before they were born, like that's what we are. Oh, right. 156 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,280 Oh yeah. They're like, who's in sync? I was like, uh, you know, like, 157 00:08:59,300 --> 00:09:00,560 our students don't even know who they're, 158 00:09:00,560 --> 00:09:04,800 so I was doing that and then I kind of didn't quite know what my career path 159 00:09:04,860 --> 00:09:07,720 was, because it was very kind of choose your own adventure. 160 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:10,480 I started trying to look into getting jobs in the music industry, 161 00:09:10,700 --> 00:09:12,960 and I was going to have to take a 20,000 pay cut, 162 00:09:13,020 --> 00:09:16,000 and I wasn't even making that much as it was. And I'm living in New York City, 163 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:17,040 and I was like, okay. 164 00:09:17,140 --> 00:09:18,680 You're like, I make 20,000. 165 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:22,840 I was like, so now I'm making Exactly. I'm like, uhoh, I think I need to find, 166 00:09:23,100 --> 00:09:27,800 so my dad said, why don't you go and get your, get master's in teaching? 167 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,560 I was like, I don't wanna be a teacher. , I'm being honest. Like, 168 00:09:30,560 --> 00:09:34,600 if my students are listening, I was like teaching. I mean, I like history. Yeah. 169 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:37,960 And I like talking about history. And I guess as a Capricorn, 170 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:40,920 they tell me that I like security and I didn't have security. Wait, you're. 171 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,200 A Capricorn. Yeah. Are you a capor? I think. Do we establish this? Oh, we. 172 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:43,720 E established this. 173 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,120 That's why I, I think so. I'm a Capricorn too. That's why best sense. 174 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:50,440 My partner, my partner refers to us as Capricorns. Oh, what? And yeah. 175 00:09:50,580 --> 00:09:51,920 No, that's not true. It's. 176 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:52,753 Typical Scorpio. 177 00:09:52,900 --> 00:09:56,480 Oh, such a Scorpio. Yeah, no, Capricorn's like order. And I wasn't, you know, 178 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,320 I didn't really see, I didn't really know. 179 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:03,440 Capricorn's don't necessarily exist with order though, right? We don't, 180 00:10:03,500 --> 00:10:03,880 but we like. 181 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:07,080 It. Exactly. We like it. But look at my, if you look at what's behind, 182 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:07,960 I don't know. You can't see. 183 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:12,480 Oh no. Every space that I use at work and at home is it, 184 00:10:12,590 --> 00:10:16,440 it's like, it's like the, do you remember when Dr. Strange, when the multiverse. 185 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:18,840 Exploded? Oh, yeah. Oh yeah. That's my life. That's what it looks like. Yeah. 186 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,400 Like even behind me right now, like there's a system, but it's like, 187 00:10:21,460 --> 00:10:25,120 why are there knitting things and the selfie stick? And it makes sense to me. 188 00:10:25,860 --> 00:10:30,520 Um, I also live in New York. So anyway, so back to back to my scattered career. 189 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:34,120 I, I mean, I loved working in the music space and it was definitely innovative. 190 00:10:34,180 --> 00:10:39,000 But this was Web 1.0 and we're at up to one three, uh, web 3.0. So like, 191 00:10:39,140 --> 00:10:42,160 it didn't remember there was that whole crash, so Oh, yeah. I, oh yeah. 192 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:45,680 I was like, what am I, what is my career? So, um, I, 193 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,720 I listened to my dad's advice and I applied to, 194 00:10:49,220 --> 00:10:52,040 so I got my undergraduate degree at Columbia. At Columbia College. 195 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,800 Columbia University. Yeah. And I was like, oh, I'll just go back there, 196 00:10:54,900 --> 00:10:58,960 go to Teacher's college. So I got, I got in, got, and I, um, got, 197 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:00,600 and it was a year. So I liked it. 'cause I was like, okay, 198 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:04,040 this is a year long program. I'm not, I'm not really gonna be a teacher. 199 00:11:04,110 --> 00:11:06,240 This is just good to get a master's. Yeah. 200 00:11:06,300 --> 00:11:08,480 I'm not gonna see some to fall back on, some to fall back on. 201 00:11:08,540 --> 00:11:10,040 I'm gonna go back into my cool music career, 202 00:11:10,070 --> 00:11:13,160 like going out every night and doing artists, working with artists. . 203 00:11:13,420 --> 00:11:16,200 And so then when grad, when grad school was about to end, 204 00:11:16,560 --> 00:11:19,640 a friend of mine said that she had gone to my, 205 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,880 my current school where I still work, by the way. Wow. 206 00:11:23,220 --> 00:11:24,053 One school. 207 00:11:24,260 --> 00:11:25,800 One school for 22 years. 208 00:11:26,220 --> 00:11:26,760 Oh, that's. 209 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:30,760 Amazing. So I went from being like, Hmm, never gonna teach to here. 210 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,600 I am teaching longer than all. Never gonna leave. The never gonna leave. 211 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:36,920 I guess, I guess I'm retiring there, . So I remember I didn't back, 212 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:40,600 you know, in the entertainment world, you, you go to multiple interviews, 213 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:44,280 they screen you. It's a process. So my friend said, 214 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:45,720 she just got a job at this high school. 215 00:11:46,020 --> 00:11:48,560 You might as well just show up before the end of the school year, 216 00:11:48,980 --> 00:11:52,200 and maybe they'll hire you. And I was like, oh, well, 217 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:54,720 I don't really wanna work in teaching even though I went to teacher's college. 218 00:11:54,910 --> 00:11:58,840 Yeah. But Sure, sure. And I went, and the principal at the time, 219 00:11:59,100 --> 00:12:02,440 my principal now is would've done a much better job with the interview. No. 220 00:12:02,500 --> 00:12:04,640 You know, she, she's a different kind of principal. 221 00:12:04,660 --> 00:12:07,200 The principal at the time basically was sitting behind a desk. 222 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:12,160 She was a little scary. She said, uh, what are your favorite, favorite? 223 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:14,720 I think they asked me like, what are your favorite sub, you know, 224 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:19,200 what are your favorite subjects in social studies to teach? I said, US history, 225 00:12:19,510 --> 00:12:24,320 time, period. World War ii, post World War ii. Favorite President, F D R. 226 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:26,840 I mean, I wasn't being that controversial. No. 227 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:30,640 Then they asked me if I would use technology in the classroom. And I said, yes. 228 00:12:30,830 --> 00:12:33,680 They didn't ask me what technology . And then I was asked, 229 00:12:33,680 --> 00:12:36,240 and what you would use it for, what I would use it for? I said, yes. 230 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:37,433 I don't know what that meant. 231 00:12:37,580 --> 00:12:40,840 And then she asked me if I would dress professionally at work. Mind you, 232 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:42,360 I was wearing a suit to the interview. 233 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:44,760 So I don't quite know where that came from, but I said, yeah, of course. Like, 234 00:12:45,180 --> 00:12:46,640 yes, I'm wearing a suit. I, 235 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:49,240 I don't know what people were dressing like at this school. . 236 00:12:49,420 --> 00:12:52,240 And then I felt like the interview was like, five minutes. 237 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,200 And then they're like, okay, great. You're hired. Here's your paper. 238 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:55,033 You're hiring paper. 239 00:12:55,390 --> 00:12:58,040 Walk across the street to this other school and hand it to this person. 240 00:12:58,100 --> 00:13:01,560 And then you have a job, . And I said, wait, but's not amazing. I, 241 00:13:01,560 --> 00:13:03,760 but I haven't, but I don't know if I, I almost said, 242 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:08,280 I don't know if I want this job, but it was like, I, I guess I'm a teacher now. 243 00:13:08,380 --> 00:13:12,240 And it, it was like, just so that my origin story was like, I guess I thought. 244 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:16,640 I can just see you like with your like little, your briefcase and your like, 245 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:20,560 resume and this random piece of paper saying you're hired. Okay. 246 00:13:20,560 --> 00:13:23,800 And because we're Gen X Yeah. We're like, okay, 247 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:26,240 I guess this is what I'm doing for next I 22 years. 248 00:13:26,590 --> 00:13:29,760 Yeah. I didn't, I didn't really think. Right. I think it is, and it's so hard. 249 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,680 'cause I don't work in with Gen X are rare. Like, and we, 250 00:13:32,700 --> 00:13:34,800 we can talk about that later, but, oh yeah. I don't, 251 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,840 I feel like when I'm around Gen X I'm like, okay, you get me. 252 00:13:37,900 --> 00:13:39,800 And I feel like every, I know gen, like, 253 00:13:39,820 --> 00:13:42,160 so some people say generations are really made up, 254 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:46,320 but I feel very Gen X and I feel like you understand that. 255 00:13:46,580 --> 00:13:49,880 And someone who's a millennial or Gen Z doesn't, but didn't you think, 256 00:13:49,940 --> 00:13:52,960 didn't you have a pro and con list? I'm like, no. I was like, well, 257 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:57,800 I don't have a job. And I don't quite know if I what? I, I don't know. 258 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,280 I mean, I guess I have a job and I'll, it's like. 259 00:14:00,380 --> 00:14:05,240 Is this a job? Yes or no? No. Yes. It's a job. I suppose I have this. 260 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:08,080 Job. I guess I'm a teacher now. And then I remember telling people, I was like, 261 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:11,280 I'm a teacher. And they're like, weird. You're, no one really expected that. 262 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:14,360 'cause they knew me as this person who worked in entertainment book publishing 263 00:14:14,970 --> 00:14:18,160 music. I was, you know, going to parties for on, 264 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:21,360 I was going all these startup company parties. Yeah. I was out every night. 265 00:14:21,900 --> 00:14:25,360 And I didn't, I was already Gen X and I didn't come from like a, 266 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:26,480 I wasn't necessarily a, 267 00:14:26,860 --> 00:14:30,720 I'm a rule follower because I like good grades and I like structure ish, 268 00:14:30,940 --> 00:14:35,000 but I'm not like a rule follower. And suddenly I'm a teacher. 269 00:14:35,580 --> 00:14:39,640 And that's all about, most teachers that I work with still love rules, 270 00:14:39,750 --> 00:14:42,920 like getting to work on time. Just kidding. . But you know, like, like, 271 00:14:42,990 --> 00:14:47,400 like before work starts like 20 minutes before work starts. Right, right. 272 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:50,200 Like when the bell rings, oh, right. I have shit. It's, the class is over. 273 00:14:50,300 --> 00:14:52,200 You know, like I, I'm still not used to that. 274 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:56,760 'cause I think my origin story in that kind of artsy world and also being Gen X, 275 00:14:58,500 --> 00:15:02,640 it never really properly prepared me for like, the structure of being a teacher, 276 00:15:02,710 --> 00:15:05,520 even though I am a teacher. And I've been a teacher for 22 years. 277 00:15:05,980 --> 00:15:08,240 And a really good teacher. Thank you. 278 00:15:08,260 --> 00:15:11,400 As it turns out. Thanks. Thanks. Yeah. I guess I, I mean, the thing is, 279 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:14,400 I think that what makes me a good teacher is that I didn't really wanna be a 280 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:16,120 teacher, but I liked history. 281 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:17,760 There's something to that though, right? 282 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,600 There's something to that. Like, I didn't, I never played teacher. Like I, 283 00:15:20,700 --> 00:15:23,240 you know, I played, when my bar, when I played with my Barbies, 284 00:15:23,430 --> 00:15:26,480 they were like owned a store and like, were like movie stars. 285 00:15:26,550 --> 00:15:27,360 Like they were not. 286 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:28,640 MOG Barbies. They were mogul Barbies. 287 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:29,920 They were, yeah, they were MOG Barbies. 288 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:31,520 They were mover and shaker barbies. 289 00:15:31,950 --> 00:15:35,000 Yeah. Yeah. They weren't like, okay, now let's teach a lesson. No, 290 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:39,080 that wasn't me. So here I was with the paper and I'm a teacher now, 291 00:15:39,460 --> 00:15:44,040 and I had a summer to just mold that over and show up on day one. 292 00:15:44,710 --> 00:15:47,240 Prepped. Like, so, so I was like, all right, so what does that mean? 293 00:15:47,260 --> 00:15:49,760 It means I need to, and I then I told, 294 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,000 they told me I was teaching five US classes. Great. 295 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:55,320 'cause that's really the only history I studied in high school, 296 00:15:55,500 --> 00:15:58,720 in college and high school. And then I knew, okay, dress professionally, 297 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:01,720 whatever that meant. Like, I wasn't gonna wear a suit, but I get, 298 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:05,400 I had one suit probably. And then it also meant like something with technology. 299 00:16:05,580 --> 00:16:08,480 And this was 2001, 2002. So like, what that. 300 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:10,840 And this was your, your induction, right? Yeah. This was your induction. 301 00:16:10,910 --> 00:16:14,200 It's like, do these three things and now you're a teacher. 302 00:16:14,460 --> 00:16:17,600 And now I'm a teacher. Right. That's amazing. I mean, I'd done, I had, 303 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:21,040 I was a student teacher at Stuyvesant, which did love Stuyvesant. 304 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:22,480 That also did not prepare me. 305 00:16:22,540 --> 00:16:25,640 That's so if people don't know New York City Stuyvesant iss one of the 306 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:30,400 specialized high school and those kids ran the class, they'd be like, I see. 307 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:33,960 We're gonna talk about Booker t Washington and W e b Du Bois today. 308 00:16:34,550 --> 00:16:38,640 I've been reading W E B Du Bois just on my own, because I find 'em interesting. 309 00:16:38,910 --> 00:16:43,080 Mind if I step in halfway through the lesson and discuss my thoughts in Du Bois? 310 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,560 I mean, that was my teaching experience. That's amazing. Nope. 311 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:48,000 They didn't want anything written on the board. They would do the homework. 312 00:16:48,350 --> 00:16:52,160 They were like, I wanna push back on what you like. They're challenging. Yeah. 313 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:54,840 Like, I have an opinion about this. Were like, they would like, they would like, 314 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:57,000 you'd give them a multiple choice test. And we'd go over the answers. 315 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:00,840 They'd be like, I think B and C should have been, they're the same answer. 316 00:17:00,950 --> 00:17:03,160 It's like, just a matter of semantics. So I'm like, wow. 317 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:07,320 Teaching's like teaching lawyers. And then that was not real teaching, you know? 318 00:17:07,360 --> 00:17:10,640 I was like, wow, this is, it's like a Socratic debate all day about. 319 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:11,060 Like, 320 00:17:11,060 --> 00:17:15,320 I'm also really happy that I learned how Stuyvesant is pronounced because it's 321 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:19,120 one of those Yeah. It's one of those. And it turns out that it's phonetic. Yeah. 322 00:17:19,220 --> 00:17:22,440 But for some reason different. It was one of those that I was overthinking. 323 00:17:22,500 --> 00:17:25,800 I'm like, I don't think it's pronounced like it looks, but turns out it is. 324 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:26,040 Yeah. 325 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:29,400 There's a lot of letters in that name. Lot of, lot of letters. 326 00:17:29,820 --> 00:17:32,560 And they stressed me out. Yeah. So, so what did you say? 327 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:38,440 I just liked it. Weirdly . I, I liked, you know, honestly, 328 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:42,320 I, well, first of all, I, no, in the beginning it was really hard. 329 00:17:42,460 --> 00:17:44,360 And I probably cry. I probably cried a lot. 330 00:17:45,020 --> 00:17:49,480 And I was stressed because it's really stressful. And then, um, 331 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:53,400 I, I think honestly, and this is corny, I really like the kids. Yeah. 332 00:17:53,580 --> 00:17:56,040 That's not corny. Did I? That's what I mean. It's the truth. I mean, 333 00:17:56,080 --> 00:18:00,840 I think that I realized that, like, I just really liked working with teenagers. 334 00:18:00,870 --> 00:18:04,520 Yeah. And they made it fun. And their personalities always. 335 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:05,640 Even though I was teaching like the, 336 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:09,040 I was teaching the same subject five times a day in the beginning. Yeah. It, 337 00:18:09,100 --> 00:18:12,560 it was just fun. And it was definitely hard. 338 00:18:13,300 --> 00:18:18,000 But it was the, it also felt, I, I like structure. I learned. 339 00:18:18,230 --> 00:18:21,120 Yeah. I liked the structure of it because, you know, 340 00:18:21,120 --> 00:18:24,120 especially when you're coming out of that crazy world where you didn't know what 341 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:27,920 a day was gonna be in a startup and you were out every night, it, 342 00:18:27,940 --> 00:18:29,240 it forced me to be like, oh yeah, no, 343 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:33,160 I can't go out really late because I have to get to work at a certain time. 344 00:18:33,290 --> 00:18:36,560 Right. And it's not gonna just start when I start. So, see. 345 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:39,840 I didn't have that calculus, so I was like, I'll be fine. I'm 23. Oh, 346 00:18:39,870 --> 00:18:40,670 I'll be fine. 347 00:18:40,670 --> 00:18:43,520 Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I mean, it was, that was an adjustment for me, 348 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:47,800 just like early mornings and the structure of it. But I kind of it, like, 349 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:52,280 I liked it. And I, and I also liked how, as one of the things about teach, 350 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:54,960 I mean, aside from the students, which this is my favorite part of it, 351 00:18:55,700 --> 00:18:59,800 no matter what chaos is going on in your life, when you step into the classroom, 352 00:19:00,300 --> 00:19:04,840 it just all goes away. You could be going through breakups and, I mean, not, 353 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:07,560 I have never had a divorce, just breakups. 'cause I've never been married, 354 00:19:07,740 --> 00:19:11,560 but haven't had a divorce yet. Need to add that to the two. I hear. 355 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:12,560 Those are great. But, you know, put. 356 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:13,393 That on your resume. 357 00:19:13,550 --> 00:19:16,480 Yeah. You can have Exactly. Looking for a marriage. 358 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:18,160 'cause I wanna experience divorce. Just kidding. 359 00:19:18,620 --> 00:19:21,600 But I wanna know what it's like to get divorced while teaching. 360 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:22,600 Haven't done that yet. 361 00:19:22,990 --> 00:19:25,080 Yeah. I mean, it's, it's definitely good for the. 362 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,720 Profession. Hear. Yeah. I'm sure. Yeah. But the point is, is that, you know, 363 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:31,880 suddenly the whole world, everything that seems really, you know, 364 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:32,920 that you're going through personally, 365 00:19:33,260 --> 00:19:37,240 it just has to get cleared out because you're in the classroom. You just. 366 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:37,870 Have to be able to just. 367 00:19:37,870 --> 00:19:39,400 It's a different space. Yeah. Just. 368 00:19:39,540 --> 00:19:42,840 Set it aside and just like, move and show up. And I, 369 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,760 and sometimes I think that that's, that that can, 370 00:19:46,550 --> 00:19:48,840 that can be harmful in some ways. Oh yeah. Yeah. But also, 371 00:19:49,700 --> 00:19:54,200 so what I'm like learning is that sometimes you do just have to move through 372 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:57,360 things and you've gotta just be able to show up. 373 00:19:57,360 --> 00:20:01,800 Especially when it comes to kids, you know? Um, so I, 374 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:05,200 I love what a great answer because I liked it. That's why I stayed. Yeah. 375 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,240 I just like that. And I love that you stayed in one place. Like, it's funny, 376 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:11,680 when I talk to people about my teaching career, I taught in two schools. 377 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:16,360 I I stayed seven years in one school and 16 years in the next one. And, 378 00:20:16,700 --> 00:20:19,840 um, people are like, wow. Two schools. I'm like, yo, 379 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:23,640 I know somebody who's at the same school the whole time. 380 00:20:23,690 --> 00:20:25,560 Whole time. 20 years. Amazing. 381 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:30,480 I've gone through like 1, 2, 3, 4 principals. Yep. And I, 382 00:20:30,540 --> 00:20:33,960 and I see my students all around New York City now. That's cool. 383 00:20:34,340 --> 00:20:35,560 And it's pretty cool. Like. 384 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:37,960 You and being able to see them, 'cause they get to this age, 385 00:20:38,470 --> 00:20:41,240 once you've been teaching a while, they actually start doing things Yeah. 386 00:20:41,260 --> 00:20:42,360 In life. . Yeah. 387 00:20:42,550 --> 00:20:45,000 It's really cool. Like, working in government, 388 00:20:45,340 --> 00:20:49,440 one of my students is getting her, her PhD and history at Yale. 389 00:20:49,510 --> 00:20:51,640 Like That's amazing. Yeah. You know? Yeah. 390 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:55,280 I have a former student who is a literal neurologist. I'm like, what? Really? 391 00:20:55,300 --> 00:20:55,720 That's. 392 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:57,280 Insane. Oh, that's all you, you did that. 393 00:20:57,820 --> 00:21:00,520 Oh, yeah. Because, because I taught history . Yeah. So. 394 00:21:00,780 --> 00:21:02,320 It got the neurology going. Definitely. 395 00:21:02,420 --> 00:21:04,160 Me. Yeah. But one thing that's kind of cool is, 396 00:21:04,620 --> 00:21:09,480 and part of my role now in central offices is I support 397 00:21:09,540 --> 00:21:12,600 new teachers. There's, that's a ton of new teachers who are my students. 398 00:21:13,460 --> 00:21:15,120 Wow. And it's wild. 399 00:21:15,120 --> 00:21:18,640 That's cool. Like kids that I had when they were like 11 and. 400 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:20,800 Like, now that's so crazy. It's. 401 00:21:20,870 --> 00:21:22,440 It's cool. And they. 402 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:23,360 Were 11. Wow. 403 00:21:23,500 --> 00:21:26,960 Yep. And I'm not sitting here like, taking credit. Some of them, I'm like, wow, 404 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:28,280 you become a teacher. That's amazing. 405 00:21:28,540 --> 00:21:32,840 But it's cool to continue that relationship. So that's cool. 406 00:21:33,060 --> 00:21:33,640 So that's. 407 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:34,473 Awesome. Yeah. 408 00:21:34,660 --> 00:21:37,840 In a second. Uh, we gotta take a quick break. Okay. Um, 409 00:21:37,950 --> 00:21:42,600 because Satara investors would love us to take a break. Um, 410 00:21:43,060 --> 00:21:47,080 so when you started teaching Siri, was there ever a, 411 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:51,080 a consideration that you would build generational wealth as a new teacher? 412 00:21:51,780 --> 00:21:52,520 No. 413 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,320 Exactly. No. The profession's not set up like that. 414 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:58,360 I, I wasn't, I wasn't. And honestly be, I I, you know, 415 00:21:58,360 --> 00:22:02,160 some people there's a T d a, I don't even know what . 416 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:03,200 Oh, TD Ameritrade. Yeah. 417 00:22:03,350 --> 00:22:04,183 Yeah. I don't. 418 00:22:04,210 --> 00:22:05,640 We're not advertising them. Forget. 419 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:07,160 That. No, we're not. Oh, sorry. Just kidding. 420 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:08,080 No, that's okay. No. Say your. 421 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,320 Thing. It's okay. No, there's some, I don't even know what it is. I mean, like, 422 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,160 you could have put in, you can put in like 10% of your paycheck. Right. 423 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:17,000 Cover your paycheck. And I live alone. I'm single. I don't have kids. 424 00:22:17,120 --> 00:22:18,840 I don't have, like, I, I'm just getting. 425 00:22:18,990 --> 00:22:20,440 Well, there's a second income in your household. 426 00:22:20,470 --> 00:22:23,280 There's no second income. Right. Because it's just me. Yeah. 427 00:22:23,340 --> 00:22:25,640 And so I never did that. Now I'm gonna, like, 428 00:22:26,140 --> 00:22:30,480 I'm sure and teachers freak out when I tell them, but I'm like, I am living, I, 429 00:22:30,740 --> 00:22:33,760 you know, you're pretty much living in New York City. Oh yeah. You're not. 430 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,080 I mean, even if, even if I saved, it's like, you know, 431 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:41,920 if I only didn't drink a latte every day, then I could What have a have, have a, 432 00:22:41,950 --> 00:22:43,800 have extra lattes on the weekend. 433 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,160 Then you could have, you could have a latte in retirement. Right. 434 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:47,680 Exactly. Right. So, yeah. Exactly. 435 00:22:47,940 --> 00:22:52,760 So, nice. So what's cool is my friend Alex, uh, from Satera Investors, they, 436 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,000 they are our partners in this, um, 437 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:59,920 they've devised a way to allow for early service teachers to actually 438 00:22:59,920 --> 00:23:04,640 start putting together some, some wealth. And so for him having grown up his, 439 00:23:04,820 --> 00:23:09,360 his, his, uh, wife Tory, um, they do this business together. They've, uh, 440 00:23:09,360 --> 00:23:13,720 they've done all this work to try to figure out how they can actually change 441 00:23:14,380 --> 00:23:18,520 the structure of investing for folks that weren't born with generational wealth. 442 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,480 'cause as we know, and we'll talk about soon. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, 443 00:23:21,620 --> 00:23:24,200 the best way to have generational wealth is to have it given to you. 444 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:25,330 . Right. 445 00:23:25,330 --> 00:23:28,880 Right. Nice. And if it's not given to you, it's not gonna happen. Um, so anyway, 446 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:29,760 y'all, when you, um, 447 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,920 when you finish this episode and when you finish subscribing to everything that, 448 00:23:33,420 --> 00:23:35,600 uh, Siri does online, um, 449 00:23:35,830 --> 00:23:40,680 then you should head over to sat investors and see if they can help you start 450 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:42,680 planning for the future. Um, 451 00:23:43,380 --> 00:23:47,640 we will be right back after this. 452 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:58,820 And we are back. What is up everybody? I am here with my bestie, 453 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:03,780 sir. Rosenberg teacher extraordinaire from the N Y C. 454 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,180 Um, I'm just so happy that you're enjoying. This is so much fun. 455 00:24:07,260 --> 00:24:10,300 I feel like I could talk to you for like hours. 'cause this is all this stuff. 456 00:24:10,300 --> 00:24:12,060 Let's do, let's do it. Let's do it. Um, I do have to pick, 457 00:24:12,580 --> 00:24:14,980 I have to pick up my spouse in a little bit, so I can't talk. 458 00:24:15,120 --> 00:24:15,953 All night. Not for hours. 459 00:24:15,970 --> 00:24:20,020 Okay. Not for hours. Okay. So, but she also loses track of time, 460 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:21,460 so she won't know. Like. 461 00:24:21,490 --> 00:24:22,540 Okay. She won't notice. Like. 462 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,500 You see. Bye friends. My friends are late. I'm at work still. Oh. 463 00:24:25,500 --> 00:24:27,260 Which is amazing. Um, that's. 464 00:24:27,260 --> 00:24:28,090 So cool. 465 00:24:28,090 --> 00:24:32,500 It's so cool. I love at work. You know, we don't have cubicles here. Siri. 466 00:24:32,500 --> 00:24:33,820 We have corrals. . 467 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,500 Oh, that sounds classy. Right. 468 00:24:37,050 --> 00:24:39,700 It's like, okay. So we're just, we're like livestock. That's great. Yeah. 469 00:24:39,700 --> 00:24:41,020 They're just, yeah. Just heard 'em in. 470 00:24:41,020 --> 00:24:44,580 Um, yeah. People are like, oh, so where's your office? I'm like, I'm an office. 471 00:24:44,940 --> 00:24:46,700 I am part of a corral. That's. 472 00:24:47,010 --> 00:24:47,300 It's. 473 00:24:47,300 --> 00:24:50,980 Better even as a manager. Um, yeah. So, um, 474 00:24:52,120 --> 00:24:56,220 the thing that I think has drawn a lot of folks to your work 475 00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:01,420 is the activism that you engage in and the stuff that you do. 476 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:05,180 And it's just like, it's, it's really powerful stuff. 477 00:25:05,450 --> 00:25:08,660 It's funny, it's entertaining, but it's also like really deep. 478 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,900 So how did you make that move? 479 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:16,820 So first you were a reluctant teacher and then you were like, Hey, this is cool. 480 00:25:17,060 --> 00:25:18,220 I kinda like this. Yeah. 481 00:25:18,360 --> 00:25:22,700 How did you move from being this teacher that is enjoying kind of the work that 482 00:25:22,700 --> 00:25:27,140 you're doing into taking a more activist stance, um, 483 00:25:27,250 --> 00:25:28,580 from your position as a teacher? 484 00:25:29,050 --> 00:25:33,860 Yeah. So I mean, basically it's exactly what you're told not to do. Right? 485 00:25:33,860 --> 00:25:35,780 You're not supposed to be quote unquote political. 486 00:25:35,780 --> 00:25:39,300 Yeah, a hundred percent. You're, it's even in some like, union contracts. 487 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:39,820 Oh. Oh. 488 00:25:39,820 --> 00:25:43,420 Yeah. Here's how you can and cannot address controversial issues. 489 00:25:44,060 --> 00:25:48,540 I know It might be in mine, so don't, I mean, no, I think I'm okay. . No, 490 00:25:48,540 --> 00:25:49,360 I'm in New York. 491 00:25:49,360 --> 00:25:50,193 No, you're an A F T. 492 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,340 I'm an a f T member. You're an aft. I'm protected. Thank you. Randy Weingarten, 493 00:25:53,340 --> 00:25:54,140 shout out to Yeah. 494 00:25:54,140 --> 00:25:56,580 Randy. Randy, come on the podcast. Anyway. 495 00:25:56,580 --> 00:25:58,300 Anyway. Yeah, I'll talk to her. We'll get her on. Um, 496 00:25:58,710 --> 00:26:02,580 she's someone who protects me a lot. and the U f T as well, 497 00:26:02,580 --> 00:26:06,740 which is the New York, um, yeah, yeah. A f t chapter. But, so I, 498 00:26:07,360 --> 00:26:11,460 you know, I, as much as I, 499 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,100 as much as I'm saying a rule breaker, I, 500 00:26:13,340 --> 00:26:15,300 I pretty much have follow the rules through life. You know, 501 00:26:15,380 --> 00:26:19,300 I went to high school and college and I, I'm pretty structured with my days, 502 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:23,700 but, you know, but I definitely, uh, 503 00:26:25,120 --> 00:26:30,020 up until, I would say up until the Trump election, 20 15, 20 16, 504 00:26:30,700 --> 00:26:34,020 I pretty much followed those rules as well. If kids would say, 505 00:26:34,020 --> 00:26:35,940 what'd you think of Reagan? Or, I mean, 506 00:26:35,940 --> 00:26:38,220 I think they could tell I was excited when Obama was elected, 507 00:26:38,270 --> 00:26:41,460 which that was hard to hold back. We were excited that day. 508 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:43,320 But for the most part, 509 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:47,880 I prided myself up until Trump came onto the scene and ran as a Republican 510 00:26:48,700 --> 00:26:52,600 in being coy in my political preferences. . 511 00:26:52,660 --> 00:26:56,760 And it was because I was, you know, I was trained to, well, 512 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,880 I was told not to smile before Christmas, but I smiled on the first day. Yeah. 513 00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:00,960 But I felt like that. You're. 514 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:01,880 Like, wow, this is fun. 515 00:27:02,150 --> 00:27:04,280 Yeah, this is cool. The kids are funny, but, and. 516 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,400 They're like, Ms. Rosenberg smiles. 517 00:27:06,590 --> 00:27:08,960 Yeah. Wait, wait. Why is she smiling? I mean, it, 518 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:10,360 they it definitely made them have too much questions. 519 00:27:10,360 --> 00:27:11,520 Well, 'cause they know the rules. Like they. 520 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,200 Know the rules. Yeah. They're like, why is this teacher smiling? Yeah. 521 00:27:13,220 --> 00:27:14,053 The first before. 522 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,640 Christmas, I'm just, by the way, I'm just like cracking up at, 523 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,320 'cause there are many words I would use to describe you. Coy is not one of them. 524 00:27:20,740 --> 00:27:20,960 Coy. 525 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:25,920 Yeah. I know Well, I was the, I I I was, you were kind of told like, 526 00:27:26,220 --> 00:27:29,560 no political references in the classroom ever. Well. 527 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,760 And what do they tell us is Gen Z we or Gen Z? Gen X. Yeah. Gen X. Yeah. 528 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:36,880 It's like they tell us over and over again. Keep your head down. Yeah. 529 00:27:36,910 --> 00:27:39,840 Keep your collar up. Keep your eyes down, keep it. 530 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:43,480 Moving. Mind your business. Yep. Just, you, you might not agree with the rules, 531 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,600 just go along with them because like. 532 00:27:45,780 --> 00:27:48,680 Get through the day. Eventually you can do whatever you want. But that is, 533 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:49,640 that day is not today. 534 00:27:49,790 --> 00:27:52,560 Yeah. Don't question your boss. Just do it. It might be stupid. 535 00:27:52,790 --> 00:27:56,200 Just talk about it with your friends later, . And you know, like, 536 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,120 this was so dumb. It's like, just watch any. 537 00:27:58,260 --> 00:28:01,200 And get addicted to lots of things that can distract you. How about. 538 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:02,840 That? That's exactly it. I mean, 539 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:04,640 just if anyone doesn't understand these references, 540 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:08,240 just watch any movies from the eighties and you'll get it for real reality 541 00:28:08,330 --> 00:28:11,400 bites, slacker, all those things. My God, those are the best. Yes. 542 00:28:11,500 --> 00:28:16,480 But in terms of like, when I became political, uh, Trump and, 543 00:28:16,580 --> 00:28:18,400 and it became a thing where, okay, 544 00:28:18,460 --> 00:28:23,320 so it started off because I viscerally could not hide how I'd been crying 545 00:28:23,540 --> 00:28:25,640 all night and all morning. Yeah. Uh, 546 00:28:25,820 --> 00:28:30,800 we came to school the next morning and my principal at the time was APAC 547 00:28:30,940 --> 00:28:33,600 was a, is a, she is, and a Pakistani Muslim. 548 00:28:33,660 --> 00:28:35,080 And she was the principal at the time. 549 00:28:35,660 --> 00:28:38,880 She intentionally read the Pledge of Allegiance over the loudspeaker, 550 00:28:38,940 --> 00:28:43,880 and she was crying and all my students were crying. And I was like, wait, 551 00:28:43,900 --> 00:28:47,440 who? Wait. Why is the teacher crying? Oh, shoot, I'm the teacher who's crying. 552 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,720 Like, I was just floating above myself. Yeah. 553 00:28:49,860 --> 00:28:54,240 And kids were just grappling with what this meant for them personally, 554 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:58,120 because my school is extremely diverse. And, but to, but not actually, 555 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,040 it's become more diverse. But at the time when people say diverse, 556 00:29:01,170 --> 00:29:04,080 let's be honest, they're saying, oh, it's not just all white kids, you know? 557 00:29:04,110 --> 00:29:06,760 Yeah. It's, it's brown and black kids, but like, it wasn't diverse. 558 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:10,840 It was brown and black kids, like Muslim kids, like the same people, like, 559 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:12,240 like not diverse. 560 00:29:12,250 --> 00:29:13,280 Means not like us. 561 00:29:13,660 --> 00:29:15,360 Not like us. So I hate saying that. Like, 562 00:29:15,380 --> 00:29:18,160 now the school's diverse where it's really, there's white kids or black kids. 563 00:29:18,270 --> 00:29:20,960 There's all different kids. But at the time, it was like, 564 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:24,800 I was often the only white person in the room. Yeah. Aside from maybe one kid, 565 00:29:24,820 --> 00:29:28,560 one Polish kid. Yeah. . Um, so it's true. Like that's how the school was. 566 00:29:28,620 --> 00:29:30,800 The the school has gotten far more diverse, 567 00:29:30,860 --> 00:29:33,680 and I think that's better for everyone. Sure. But at the time, 568 00:29:33,820 --> 00:29:36,480 I'm standing there and I'm a white woman. I mean, I'm Jewish, 569 00:29:36,660 --> 00:29:38,920 but I'm white appearing, right? Sure. Sure. 570 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:43,000 I'm white for all intents and purposes. Yeah. And I had two thoughts. 571 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:43,960 I was like, well, first of all, 572 00:29:44,070 --> 00:29:48,040 most of these kids know that I was excited to get Hillary elected. Yeah. Yeah. 573 00:29:48,180 --> 00:29:50,120 And number two, um, 574 00:29:51,300 --> 00:29:54,360 if they didn't know that I'm a white woman standing in front of them, 575 00:29:54,860 --> 00:29:58,320 and they're gonna think that if I'm coy with them about this one, 576 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,960 then I'm a Trump supporter. And Trump was a direct threat to the, 577 00:30:02,020 --> 00:30:04,200 to probably the every single kid in that room, 578 00:30:04,390 --> 00:30:07,680 whether they supported him or not. Right. His policies would be, 579 00:30:08,060 --> 00:30:11,280 and I know that people felt like, some people were like, ah, 580 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,600 how bad could it be? And they thought I was being hyperbolic and dramatic right. 581 00:30:14,630 --> 00:30:17,520 That day. And then it ended up being worse than we imagined. 582 00:30:17,700 --> 00:30:22,240 But I remember what got me and got me speaking out was not me though. 583 00:30:22,340 --> 00:30:27,320 It was the fact that one of my students who wears hijab looked at me 584 00:30:28,060 --> 00:30:31,240 scared, like real viscerally scared. And she said, miss, 585 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,240 they'll call you Miss in New York, miss mm-hmm. . Right. 586 00:30:33,340 --> 00:30:35,840 I'm scared to take the subway now in my hijab, 587 00:30:35,860 --> 00:30:40,360 and I'm scared for my family to be on the subway now. And I said, okay. 588 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,200 She's like, what do I do if someone like at Attack, you know, comes after us? 589 00:30:43,460 --> 00:30:46,040 And I, and part of me even then was like, that's not, it's New York. 590 00:30:46,060 --> 00:30:47,640 That's not gonna happen. Sure, sure. 591 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,400 But then there was a part of me that was like, she knows more than me. 592 00:30:50,740 --> 00:30:52,560 And I said, well just act like, I was like, 593 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,840 just get up and move into the next Subway car. Just get up and walk. Like, 594 00:30:55,850 --> 00:30:59,560 don't just like walk away or just act, you act like you don't understand, 595 00:30:59,590 --> 00:31:02,320 like walk away. And that Monday she came in, 596 00:31:02,460 --> 00:31:06,920 or the next day after the weekend and she said, miss some guy spit on us. 597 00:31:08,290 --> 00:31:09,123 Wow. 598 00:31:09,290 --> 00:31:13,990 So that was it. I mean, I was already speaking out, but that was it. And I said, 599 00:31:13,990 --> 00:31:17,270 you know what? Like if I get fired for this, which I won't, 600 00:31:17,490 --> 00:31:19,550 or if I get reprimanded, I don't care. 601 00:31:19,550 --> 00:31:22,950 Because a lot of these students don't have, 602 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:27,390 don't feel safe speaking out, or they don't have a platform to speak out. 603 00:31:27,390 --> 00:31:28,223 They're minors. 604 00:31:28,770 --> 00:31:32,670 And I'm just going to speak out because this is, 605 00:31:32,780 --> 00:31:36,190 this sounds dramatic, but it's true. And we're living in that time now too, 606 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,350 which is, I'm a student of history, a scholar of history. Yeah. 607 00:31:39,490 --> 00:31:43,150 And you study the past and you say, what would I have done? I mean, I'm Jewish. 608 00:31:43,390 --> 00:31:45,310 I would've been, we don't wanna talk about what would've happened, 609 00:31:45,410 --> 00:31:49,310 but what happens if I was in a time period where there was someone who was a 610 00:31:49,310 --> 00:31:53,030 leader, who was a threat to others, and I could have done something to stop it. 611 00:31:53,030 --> 00:31:55,670 Would I have done that back then, like during the civil rights movement? 612 00:31:55,670 --> 00:31:57,790 Would I have joined the sit-ins? Would I have done those things? 613 00:31:57,790 --> 00:31:59,630 And I like to think I would have. Yeah. 614 00:31:59,630 --> 00:32:02,110 And then I had a moment where I said to myself, oh, 615 00:32:02,410 --> 00:32:06,910 that's this moment and just one step, you know, one foot in front of the other. 616 00:32:06,930 --> 00:32:11,470 And I just continued to speak out and it just got louder and louder. Yeah. 617 00:32:11,690 --> 00:32:15,110 Uh, to your point though, I mean, we, I think one of the, 618 00:32:15,890 --> 00:32:20,550 one of the things that I think is interesting is that when you look at the 619 00:32:20,550 --> 00:32:23,670 history and may, and maybe maybe your heritage does play a part in this, 620 00:32:23,670 --> 00:32:24,510 where it's kind of like, 621 00:32:25,210 --> 00:32:30,070 it wasn't just that Jewish people did not resist and just 622 00:32:30,100 --> 00:32:34,510 kind of were were passive in this whole thing. Yeah. There were uprisings. Yeah. 623 00:32:34,510 --> 00:32:36,550 There were gorilla movements. There were those kinds of things. 624 00:32:36,610 --> 00:32:40,800 And I kind of see that. Yeah. You know, I, it's interesting because, um, 625 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,440 December, 2016 is when two dope teachers and a mic launched. 626 00:32:45,620 --> 00:32:46,453 Wow. 627 00:32:46,470 --> 00:32:48,200 That was when we launched. That's awesome. 628 00:32:48,380 --> 00:32:53,200 And it was one of these things where Kevin and I were becoming more and 629 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:58,080 more aware that we were isolated as male teachers of color. Yeah. Um, 630 00:32:58,110 --> 00:33:00,200 yeah. Before he came and started working with me, 631 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:05,040 I had been working for 14 years as the only teacher of color in any staff that I 632 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:06,160 was a part of. Wow. 633 00:33:06,340 --> 00:33:10,360 And what happened to me in those times is I thought I could kind of switch on 634 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:14,520 and off my identity. And that was, that was hard. 635 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:19,040 And I didn't realize what was happening until I met another person of color. 636 00:33:19,700 --> 00:33:23,920 Um, wow. And so I think that kind of, that call is, 637 00:33:23,980 --> 00:33:27,080 is pretty amazing. And what, you know, I, when, 638 00:33:27,710 --> 00:33:30,920 when I try to describe your, your social media presence, and that's, 639 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:32,760 that's where I want to kind of go next with this Yeah. 640 00:33:32,860 --> 00:33:37,680 Is I kind of view you as a 21st century John Brown. Right. Like, to me, 641 00:33:37,990 --> 00:33:40,520 it's just kinda like, so you, 642 00:33:40,580 --> 00:33:44,880 you are part of this elite group of folks that I refer to as, um, 643 00:33:45,060 --> 00:33:47,600 as my John Brown white people. Right. . And I know, 644 00:33:47,700 --> 00:33:50,680 and I know whiteness is not like the, the, the total, 645 00:33:50,820 --> 00:33:52,840 the totality of your identity. Yeah. 646 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:56,040 But I am white. I'm white. Yeah. It's, and I wanna like, no, 647 00:33:56,260 --> 00:34:00,360 before they see my last name, I'm a white girl with fake blonde hair. It's fake, 648 00:34:00,380 --> 00:34:01,520 but blonde hair, right? 649 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,080 Like fake blonde hair. Your hair's not fake. The blonde, the. 650 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,560 Blonde, the hair is real baby. Yeah. Real. 651 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:07,393 Hair color. 652 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:08,240 A. 653 00:34:08,240 --> 00:34:11,720 Little fake. This gray that I have is also real. Um, yeah, yeah. No, but so, 654 00:34:11,780 --> 00:34:15,040 so like, so there's a few of you, there's, 655 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,920 there's our mutual friend Chris Deere, um, there's a few of you. 656 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:19,440 And I'm kinda like, you know what, these are white people. 657 00:34:19,540 --> 00:34:23,080 If I said we are raiding Harper's Ferry, they are coming with me. . 658 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:23,400 Right? 659 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:24,560 Yeah. I'd be down. I'd be down. 660 00:34:24,660 --> 00:34:26,440 And so, but I think that's been your, 661 00:34:26,590 --> 00:34:31,360 your digital engagement and what you've done aside from just not 662 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:32,720 just this is important aside, 663 00:34:33,100 --> 00:34:37,840 in addition to validating stories and being a safe place for your 664 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,400 students from marginalized and minoritized communities to come, you know, 665 00:34:41,860 --> 00:34:46,360 to come to you have also taken these very, 666 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:50,200 very strong stands that when even when I look at it, I'm like, oh, shoot. 667 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,680 I don't know if I would say that. . Like, what am like. 668 00:34:52,790 --> 00:34:53,080 What. 669 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,880 What am I saying? Well, no, because i's just a funny, I'm That's funny. 670 00:34:56,140 --> 00:34:59,080 I'm just a sensitive person. Okay, got it. And so, like, people, 671 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,120 people get mad and Oh, they do mad. And I get my feelings hurt. And I'm like, 672 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,480 oh, but, and people get big mad at you. They. 673 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:08,240 Get really, especially on Instagram lately, like, I can't even open. 674 00:35:08,240 --> 00:35:10,840 Instagram. Instagram. That's what, that's something that like blows me away. 675 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:11,400 It's crazy matter. 676 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:15,080 It's like all the hat haters got confused by Twitter and decided to get on 677 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:15,430 Instagram. 678 00:35:15,430 --> 00:35:19,840 They're so mad at me on Instagram, like all day, like so mad. 679 00:35:20,300 --> 00:35:20,740 Ugh. 680 00:35:20,740 --> 00:35:25,560 Now, now are they mad? Are they Jordan Peterson mad at a puppet worm? Mad. 681 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:26,833 'cause that's wild. 682 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,480 . Yeah. I don't even know. I mean, it feels like, I don't even know. I, 683 00:35:30,550 --> 00:35:34,720 it's every name a type of mad I have it. Yeah. 684 00:35:34,810 --> 00:35:36,080 Every single type of. 685 00:35:36,100 --> 00:35:40,280 Mad. So like, uh, like I, I would, 686 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,920 I would curl up in a ball 'cause I'm insecure. Um, 687 00:35:43,220 --> 00:35:45,560 but how me how do you . 688 00:35:46,340 --> 00:35:47,880 Aren't we all, I mean, come on. 689 00:35:48,260 --> 00:35:49,800 How do you, but like, and, 690 00:35:49,860 --> 00:35:53,320 and we're not even talking about like what you post is like time consuming. 691 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,440 Like, it's not just something you can do just quick and be like, 692 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,360 let's just real quick throw this video up. Like, 693 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,920 there's work that goes into that. Yeah. Um, how do you, 694 00:36:01,980 --> 00:36:05,040 how do you do that with all of the hatred coming at you? 695 00:36:05,940 --> 00:36:09,800 It fuels me. I mean, I will say that, damn, I love that answer. It fuels me. 696 00:36:09,820 --> 00:36:13,400 It fuels me. Uh, I, someone writes a bunch of hateful stuff and I'm like, 697 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,120 all right, I'll make another video about that. Got it. It fuels me. 698 00:36:16,180 --> 00:36:20,040 The hate fuels me because it can do two things to you. It can, because I know, 699 00:36:20,460 --> 00:36:23,160 and, and my friend Little Miss Marxist always reminds me of this, 700 00:36:23,260 --> 00:36:27,720 if they're coming after you, it's because you struck a nerve. Because why? 701 00:36:27,720 --> 00:36:30,480 Because I always want, I don't respond to them, but I, sometimes I do. 702 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:34,120 And then I block them and I write, you could've kept scrolling, 703 00:36:34,340 --> 00:36:39,120 but you just wrote me an essay bra. Like, why are you, 704 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:39,520 you're. 705 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,000 Like, yo, who is living rent free in your head. Your. 706 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:42,780 Head. I mean, 707 00:36:42,780 --> 00:36:45,160 and then they'll write back sometimes before and then I block them. 708 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,640 'cause I don't want them to report my account because they're crazy. 709 00:36:47,910 --> 00:36:51,640 They'll write something like, you, you video was fed to me. And I said, 710 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:55,440 but you could have kept scrolling. Yeah. But instead you wrote an essay to me. 711 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,000 I got you so angry. 712 00:36:57,620 --> 00:37:01,320 And because you disagree with me so much and you want me to do my research that 713 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,600 you did it for me and sent me your ideas. But it does fuel me. 714 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,120 But I will say that I wanna speak about, 715 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:11,440 I think that what happened was that it takes, what do they say? 716 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,200 The fir what's the saying? The first cut's the deepest. So Yeah. Yeah. That, 717 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:15,240 that's right. You know, like the first broke, 718 00:37:15,240 --> 00:37:17,680 the first time you have a broken heart. It hurts the most. Although I have, 719 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,160 I always get a broken heart. It hurts the same, but it hurts the same. 720 00:37:20,270 --> 00:37:22,360 That doesn't that it always hurts. I disagree with that. Like. 721 00:37:22,620 --> 00:37:24,680 Hey y'all, stop breaking Sarah's heart. Stop breaking. 722 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:25,513 My heart. Yo. 723 00:37:25,700 --> 00:37:27,680 I'm gonna fight you. We're we're besties. Now I'm gonna. 724 00:37:27,980 --> 00:37:31,960 I'm gonna you. Yeah. Don't even try now my best. He's coming. Exactly. But, 725 00:37:32,060 --> 00:37:35,680 but yeah, in terms of the hate online, it's that saying like, the first cut's, 726 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,160 the deepest and the first, there are two incidents. 727 00:37:38,460 --> 00:37:41,960 And then I never got scared again and watched me knock on wood because I don't 728 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:43,760 wanna anything else. But so far I've been okay. 729 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:44,880 I just don't look at the comments. 730 00:37:45,060 --> 00:37:49,840 But the first time was I po the first post that all the crazy right wing people 731 00:37:49,950 --> 00:37:53,520 came for me was around the time that they were passing those, 732 00:37:53,620 --> 00:37:55,920 the original c r t anti c r t bills. 733 00:37:56,180 --> 00:37:59,040 We don't even need to talk about what everyone understands how dumb those were. 734 00:37:59,540 --> 00:38:03,680 And I, right around 4th of July weekend, I always post, what did the slaves, 735 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:04,500 the 4th of July, 736 00:38:04,500 --> 00:38:08,800 the famous Frederick Douglass speech that he gave back in the, 737 00:38:08,900 --> 00:38:11,760 the slavery day, still like, you know, they had, it was still slavery. 738 00:38:11,940 --> 00:38:14,240 And they asked him to give a speech about the 4th of July. 739 00:38:14,660 --> 00:38:18,560 And he called him out on hypocrisy of this nation celebrating the 4th of July 740 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,480 when people were not independent in this country. All the enslaved people. 741 00:38:21,700 --> 00:38:26,680 So I noticed, I, I just tweeted a bit of a thread that said, 742 00:38:27,060 --> 00:38:31,360 Hey, so does this mean that in your states that you've banned Frederick, 743 00:38:31,500 --> 00:38:34,520 do you know conversations about racism and race and slavery? 744 00:38:35,180 --> 00:38:38,320 Can they read this speech anymore? Now? Not, 745 00:38:38,900 --> 00:38:42,920 not fr they can learn about Frederick Douglass, but can they learn this speech? 746 00:38:43,090 --> 00:38:46,520 Right. And then I, and they all found this tweet for some reason, 747 00:38:47,060 --> 00:38:49,800 and they all said the same thing. Siri's lying, this isn't true. 748 00:38:50,020 --> 00:38:52,800 And then screenshotting that you can read like thenar, you know, 749 00:38:52,820 --> 00:38:57,000 the life story of Frederick Douglass. Okay. That is different than this speech. 750 00:38:57,190 --> 00:38:59,440 Than his 4th of July speech. Absolutely. 751 00:38:59,620 --> 00:39:03,320 And but the problem is that nuance doesn't work online in general. 752 00:39:03,460 --> 00:39:05,560 And it certainly doesn't with these, 753 00:39:05,750 --> 00:39:10,280 this army of trolls that we're probably in some weird troll room together. 754 00:39:10,900 --> 00:39:14,160 And we're given this line to say, Siri's a liar. You're. 755 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,560 Picturing a troll room right now. Yeah. Of all these like, people, 756 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:20,000 like you guys, sir, tweeted a thing that I'm mad about. Yeah. 757 00:39:20,030 --> 00:39:21,040 What are we gonna do That's better. 758 00:39:21,170 --> 00:39:24,120 We're gonna call her. And if you notice that's the pattern. They just say, 759 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:28,440 you're a liar. Siri's lying. And, and you can, you can limit comments, 760 00:39:28,500 --> 00:39:31,640 but you can't. Now, Twitter's god it's X, but oh God. 761 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:33,400 Even it's even before Elon Musk, 762 00:39:33,780 --> 00:39:37,800 one thing that they would do was even if you didn't allow them to respond to 763 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,160 you, you could live at comments. They can quote, tweet you. 764 00:39:40,220 --> 00:39:42,040 So there was all these quote tweets. 765 00:39:42,340 --> 00:39:44,920 And then they started coming after saying I had plastic, you know, 766 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:49,000 going after my face. Plastic surgery. Like no plastic surgery by the way, 767 00:39:49,270 --> 00:39:51,520 it's just my face. . That's right. And I'd be like, oh, 768 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,160 you think I'm pretty that I paid for my face. 769 00:39:53,740 --> 00:39:56,400 Oh, thanks. So that was, you don't think this is, I woke up like. 770 00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,120 This. I woke up like this with this plastic surgery face . 771 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:00,120 So that was the first attack. 772 00:40:00,220 --> 00:40:04,400 And then the second attack was even worse because I learned another lesson, 773 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:09,000 which is don't tweet a picture from your classroom with the words 774 00:40:09,610 --> 00:40:13,960 white supremacy and multiracial democracy and say, 775 00:40:14,180 --> 00:40:16,800 and wearing a mask. 'cause I was still mask times. 776 00:40:16,980 --> 00:40:19,480 Saying, oh yeah, you, you're checking off all of their. 777 00:40:19,550 --> 00:40:20,600 Hate boxes. Wait. 778 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:24,120 And then I tweeted teaching about the January 6th and whatever the hashtag 779 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:28,560 happened was capital riots. I was, I was, 780 00:40:28,720 --> 00:40:32,600 I was not thinking, I thought, who follows me on? You know, like, are you. 781 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,600 Sure? 'cause that sounds kind of intentional. It's kind like here. No, 782 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,880 it wasn't. Let me bait you jerks. No, I really, no, totally. Not totally. It. 783 00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:39,840 Usually goes, it usually, a lot of times when I would tweet, 784 00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,240 it would go on like mist. And I was actually, 785 00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:47,200 interestingly enough thought I was promoting the article I had just written for, 786 00:40:48,420 --> 00:40:52,160 not like Marxist magazine, but Parents Magazine. 787 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:56,800 I had written an article and actually balanced in fair article about how to 788 00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:00,560 teach your kids about January 6th for parents.com. 789 00:41:01,020 --> 00:41:05,600 So I thought I was advertising because it was the lesson that actually was a 790 00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,920 lesson that we got from the N Y C D O E. Like, 791 00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,640 I didn't come up with this lesson and it was like a see, think wonder, 792 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,120 which they were making fun of. Like, 793 00:41:12,180 --> 00:41:13,920 what's the difference between thinking and wondering? 794 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:17,280 It's actually a teaching device. We're professionals. It's what we use idiots. 795 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:18,920 Yeah. What do you notice? What do you wonder? And. 796 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:23,720 What is we exactly not see, think, wonder, like, have you been to school, dude? 797 00:41:24,060 --> 00:41:27,480 So they, I tweeted this picture and I got, 798 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,280 because my last name is Rosenberg, 799 00:41:29,740 --> 00:41:32,360 that's when I was reminded that my last name's Rosenberg, 800 00:41:32,500 --> 00:41:36,600 all the terrible anti-Semitic stuff. My one thing I had said was like, 801 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,920 if they start bringing up the Holocaust and ovens, 802 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,120 I don't know if I can be tweeting anymore. 803 00:41:41,540 --> 00:41:46,040 And they did that and it was terrifying. It was disgusting. Wow. Yeah. I, 804 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:50,600 I can't e like, I can't tell you how many I saw. And the echo symbol, 805 00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:54,880 which I learned is a, a dog whistle for, for Jew, um, 806 00:41:54,980 --> 00:41:57,640 Jewish person, the nose, everything, you know, 807 00:41:58,040 --> 00:41:59,960 anti-Semitic cartoons all under my, 808 00:42:00,020 --> 00:42:04,360 so I deleted the tweet so everyone listening thinks the story's over. Oh no. 809 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:06,400 I went and got my hair done to calm down. 810 00:42:06,620 --> 00:42:09,160 And my hairstylist was the one who's like, just take it down. So I took it down. 811 00:42:09,460 --> 00:42:11,600 He was smart. He's like, just take it down. I'm like, you're right. 812 00:42:11,750 --> 00:42:15,840 He's just gonna take it down. Why do I need it up? Yep. Well, Jack Poso, 813 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:20,240 I don't even know how to say his last name, that Nazi, doesn't. 814 00:42:20,240 --> 00:42:21,073 Matter. Doesn't matter. 815 00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,880 Whatever the hell his name is. Nazi guy with a million followers. Yeah. 816 00:42:25,030 --> 00:42:28,240 Someone Oh, lives of TikTok. Found it, posted it, 817 00:42:28,590 --> 00:42:33,240 sent it to him and he decided to retweet it and tag me. 818 00:42:33,660 --> 00:42:38,480 Hey Siri, Beth Rose, why did you delete this? Okay. 819 00:42:38,830 --> 00:42:39,150 Yeah. 820 00:42:39,150 --> 00:42:39,660 Yeah. 821 00:42:39,660 --> 00:42:43,160 So that was around 10 o'clock eastern. Oh shoot. I understand. 822 00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:45,473 . 823 00:42:46,310 --> 00:42:47,060 Okay. 824 00:42:47,060 --> 00:42:49,680 I'm gonna, I'm gonna have you pause for one second. I need to, uh, 825 00:42:49,790 --> 00:42:54,680 plug in 'cause my battery sucks. Okay. Okay. Be right back bestie. All right, 826 00:42:54,700 --> 00:42:57,840 we are back. And I'm plugged in and Sarah's plugged in and we are ready to go. 827 00:42:58,060 --> 00:43:00,600 Go. So part two, we're talking about Jack. Yeah. Who, 828 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:02,320 whatever the hell his name, whatever. 829 00:43:02,550 --> 00:43:04,200 Nazi guy, he retweets me. 830 00:43:04,220 --> 00:43:08,160 He takes my picture of the tweet and asked me why I deleted it. It was like a, 831 00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:09,320 you know, late at night, late, 832 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:13,400 late enough at night in New York time where all my friends online who were in 833 00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,000 California and elsewhere, no, 834 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,320 all my friends in New York and stuff couldn't come to my rescue, 835 00:43:17,350 --> 00:43:21,680 like East coast time. So I talked to a friend and he basically said, 836 00:43:22,100 --> 00:43:26,040 go private for the night and make that be the focus. I mean, 837 00:43:26,150 --> 00:43:30,320 this is like a whole strategy online. Go private for the night and then, um, 838 00:43:30,820 --> 00:43:31,653 let them go, 839 00:43:31,660 --> 00:43:34,680 let them feel like they won because you went private and they scared you. 840 00:43:35,260 --> 00:43:39,320 And it was just every possible mean thing that people could say. 841 00:43:39,340 --> 00:43:42,640 But the thing is, is that they, they were, it was all anti-Semitism, 842 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:47,320 but then it was also just like attacks on my looks, attacks on my face. 843 00:43:47,350 --> 00:43:51,880 Like they found like my profile picture. And they were like, God busted girl. 844 00:43:51,900 --> 00:43:55,600 You know? And you have to be so secure and be like, no, 845 00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,840 I know I'm not busted looking. And even if I am, fuck them. You know, like, 846 00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:00,160 sorry for cursing and. 847 00:44:00,350 --> 00:44:03,200 Like whatever. That's okay. No, I mean, and, and it's, 848 00:44:03,270 --> 00:44:07,400 it's wild because I know that I've, I've just seen this happen to. 849 00:44:07,470 --> 00:44:08,303 It's disgusting. 850 00:44:08,620 --> 00:44:13,120 So many women on, on X especially. Oh yeah. But you know, 851 00:44:13,220 --> 00:44:16,440 in a lot of other places. Yeah. So, so just so the, 852 00:44:17,020 --> 00:44:21,720 the hatred kind of took a whole new level of like nastiness. 853 00:44:21,820 --> 00:44:22,760 Oh yeah. And cruelty. 854 00:44:23,100 --> 00:44:26,480 And, and I just, I, people are like, don't I look? But you know what happens? 855 00:44:26,540 --> 00:44:29,640 You get numb. So once you start seeing it over and over, you, 856 00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,120 I think what happened to me, me at least, and maybe this I'm sick. Yeah. 857 00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:38,000 I just started separating the online stuff from me because I started thinking, 858 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:39,480 these people don't know me. 859 00:44:40,190 --> 00:44:44,760 They're attacking this icon that is me online. Right. 860 00:44:44,790 --> 00:44:49,720 That represents liberal Jewish lady fighting for black people, 861 00:44:49,890 --> 00:44:50,723 which they hate. 862 00:44:50,790 --> 00:44:54,440 Like white people fighting for black and brown people wanting a multiracial 863 00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,920 democracy, calling out their white supremacy. That's what they're fighting. 864 00:44:58,200 --> 00:44:59,520 I mean, that is also what. 865 00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,800 I believe, but it's like in a really weird, so in a really, in, in a way, not, 866 00:45:02,860 --> 00:45:04,080 not a really weird way, but, 867 00:45:04,220 --> 00:45:08,520 so the way that you receive this kind of thing as like, 868 00:45:08,820 --> 00:45:12,360 you're not actually attacking me 'cause you don't know me. Yeah. You're not, 869 00:45:12,470 --> 00:45:15,960 this isn't personal. You just look at this, 870 00:45:16,660 --> 00:45:20,040 at this presence and for you, you feel that it, 871 00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:21,960 I just represent everything that you hate. 872 00:45:22,460 --> 00:45:26,840 And so really what you hate is everything that literally exists in this country. 873 00:45:27,530 --> 00:45:28,363 Right. 874 00:45:28,540 --> 00:45:30,480 And I'm just, I'm just your symbol for it. 875 00:45:30,710 --> 00:45:33,120 Yeah. I became the, I yeah, the sim exactly. That, 876 00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:34,800 that's you articulated perfectly. 877 00:45:35,180 --> 00:45:37,400 And that's how I'm able to keep able to keep going because, 878 00:45:37,980 --> 00:45:41,360 so basically the next morning I went public again. 879 00:45:41,780 --> 00:45:44,400 My friends told me to just say, I'm still here. 880 00:45:45,260 --> 00:45:50,000 And then I tweeted the reason I deleted the other tweet and I listed all the 881 00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,840 anti-Semitic things that happened to me because of that tweet. 882 00:45:54,180 --> 00:45:56,880 And that's why I deleted, it's because the hate that I received, 883 00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,920 because my last name's Rosenberg. Yeah. And so, you know, 884 00:46:00,290 --> 00:46:02,800 every Nazi flooded in and we reported them. Yeah. 885 00:46:02,980 --> 00:46:04,760 And before Elon Musk had taken over, 886 00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:08,240 it was a lot of those accounts got taken down. Yep. So I felt like, I felt like, 887 00:46:08,240 --> 00:46:08,880 you know, 888 00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:12,040 I was the Nazi hunter that I wanted to have been in the thirties and forties. 889 00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,880 . Yes. I became that Nazi hunter online. I love that. I mean, 890 00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:16,800 they're all, all those accounts are back. So that's, 891 00:46:16,820 --> 00:46:18,520 so once those two things happened, 892 00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:22,400 I started seeing it in that way. 893 00:46:22,780 --> 00:46:26,920 That's not to say that when people that I don't know come up to me, 894 00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:28,920 I definitely get weird sometimes. 895 00:46:29,380 --> 00:46:31,840 And it's because they know they don't know me from that. But I, 896 00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:35,680 I definitely am on edge a little without realizing it because it, 897 00:46:35,700 --> 00:46:39,600 it gets in your head like, oh, these people hate, like, they hate me. Yeah. 898 00:46:39,630 --> 00:46:42,680 They don't hate me, but they hate this person. They see. 899 00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:45,840 But yeah. But they, they hate the, I mean, and that's the other thing too, 900 00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:47,360 especially as a woman, they, 901 00:46:47,870 --> 00:46:52,400 they hate what you represent enough that it could lead to violence. 902 00:46:52,660 --> 00:46:56,720 It could be like, they're not philosophical enough to say, oh, that's Siri, 903 00:46:56,720 --> 00:46:59,960 but I just hate the idea of her. I would never hurt her. Like, right. 904 00:47:00,350 --> 00:47:02,720 That has to be something that creates that anxiety. 905 00:47:02,780 --> 00:47:05,920 So I think this is really important because, you know, and, 906 00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:10,880 and it's interesting 'cause I kind of ad hoc talked about superheroes, right? 907 00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,800 Mm-hmm. . And I think one of the things about superheroes, 908 00:47:13,900 --> 00:47:16,400 I'm a big comic book nerd. This, this is, I love it kind of where I live. 909 00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:20,560 I love it. I love it. Um, I consider teachers of color to be like the X-men, 910 00:47:20,590 --> 00:47:21,423 like there's a soul. 911 00:47:21,500 --> 00:47:22,440 Oh, totally. Totally. 912 00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:23,260 Totally, totally. Yeah. 913 00:47:23,260 --> 00:47:28,080 And so the way I kind of see this is that like there 914 00:47:28,220 --> 00:47:32,840 is this kind of superhero arc where there is pain and there is 915 00:47:33,030 --> 00:47:36,880 fear, and there is anxiety. And I think what's really powerful, 916 00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:38,960 and listeners I hope you're getting this, like, 917 00:47:39,420 --> 00:47:42,440 is that it isn't that people like Siri, 918 00:47:42,870 --> 00:47:46,920 like other folks that we've seen get attacked mostly women. Yeah. Um, 919 00:47:47,630 --> 00:47:52,520 Khalisa Wing, the homegirl, right? Oh yeah. Like, uh, my, my, my, my homie, 920 00:47:52,820 --> 00:47:55,360 uh, key from what kindergarten. Like, 921 00:47:55,910 --> 00:48:00,600 it's not that they have some unique shell or some unique ability 922 00:48:00,740 --> 00:48:04,800 to fight back and resist and be like, haha, you can't defeat me. 923 00:48:04,980 --> 00:48:09,240 I'm Sir Beth Rose. You know, it isn't that, that's a thing. It's like, nah, 924 00:48:09,240 --> 00:48:13,400 this stuff hurts and this stuff is scary. Yeah. And this stuff is fucked. Sorry, 925 00:48:13,410 --> 00:48:17,680 we're gonna have to put the E on this. Yeah, yeah. And, um, and, 926 00:48:18,820 --> 00:48:22,880 but I choose the fight. Yeah. I choose the fight, 927 00:48:23,050 --> 00:48:24,560 which kind of gets me in you, 928 00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:28,000 you're already kind of talking about the next topic. Yeah. Which is, 929 00:48:29,990 --> 00:48:34,720 this is kind of the work, right? Right, right. Like we, 930 00:48:34,860 --> 00:48:36,960 as much as people like me, let's be honest, 931 00:48:37,420 --> 00:48:41,080 are dismissive of like perceptions through social media and that kind of thing, 932 00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:41,960 , I mean, 933 00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:45,920 there's whole sets of consciousnesses that are being developed on social media 934 00:48:46,220 --> 00:48:50,760 and playing out on social media. Now we're seeing, it used to be, 935 00:48:51,340 --> 00:48:54,200 man, you would never talk to somebody in person like that. Well, 936 00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:56,840 now people are starting to do it. And so yeah, they are, 937 00:48:56,890 --> 00:49:00,640 we're starting to see that tail wig wag the dog a little bit. And so this, 938 00:49:01,270 --> 00:49:04,800 this matters, this is important. And, um, 939 00:49:05,300 --> 00:49:09,880 and so how do you view just your work as an 940 00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:15,280 educator that isn't just about reciting the standards and making sure kids pass 941 00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:16,100 tests? 942 00:49:16,100 --> 00:49:18,680 So my job is, yes, they have to, 943 00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:22,680 they wanna do all in the AP US exam, and they wanna do, of course, 944 00:49:22,790 --> 00:49:26,120 they wanna pass the Regents exam and know the content for that, 945 00:49:26,140 --> 00:49:29,840 and have the skills. But I, I always say that if I, 946 00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:34,000 I trust I've taught 21 years of students. So my, 947 00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:39,160 I feel happiest and acco most accomplished when I run 948 00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:42,400 into students, whether it's at a reunion or anywhere in New York. 949 00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:46,320 'cause I see my students everywhere now, which is awesome. When they say, 950 00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:49,280 I think about your class, every time I watch the news, 951 00:49:49,410 --> 00:49:52,080 every time I read a newspaper, I'm like, Ooh, you're reading a newspaper. Good. 952 00:49:52,140 --> 00:49:54,680 Or every time I'm reading the news online, or every time I'm on Twitter, 953 00:49:55,100 --> 00:49:59,120 TikTok and seeing history videos, I think about the history class. 954 00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:00,120 Because to me, 955 00:50:00,780 --> 00:50:04,960 that's what we're getting away from with all this testing and, 956 00:50:05,020 --> 00:50:08,440 and just standards, which is that why do we study the past? 957 00:50:08,700 --> 00:50:13,040 And I think it's becoming abundantly clear today that what happens when you 958 00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:16,680 don't study the past or make it relevant is that we repeat. 959 00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,760 The or or reframe the past to suit. Right. 960 00:50:19,990 --> 00:50:24,920 Your own comfort and your own anything that just affirms your 961 00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:26,040 own narrative. Exactly. 962 00:50:26,180 --> 00:50:28,840 And so it's so important that for me, 963 00:50:29,230 --> 00:50:31,240 that now more than ever, 964 00:50:31,710 --> 00:50:35,880 that you make those connections between current day and the past. 965 00:50:36,060 --> 00:50:38,720 And they're not neat connections. Like everything, the past, 966 00:50:38,720 --> 00:50:40,760 everything that happened in the past is different in its context. 967 00:50:40,980 --> 00:50:44,280 But to see the, see how it rhymes and see some of the parallels. 968 00:50:44,660 --> 00:50:48,840 And so that's what I want students to take from my class. 969 00:50:49,140 --> 00:50:52,400 And so some of them, some I think when they first enter my class, 970 00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:56,400 they think I'm being random. 'cause I bring up, oh, the UAW is on strike. And, 971 00:50:56,580 --> 00:50:59,280 and I Yeah. Right. Connected it to some word that was in a reading. 972 00:50:59,300 --> 00:51:01,960 And they're like, that has no, that has nothing to do with the reading. 973 00:51:02,170 --> 00:51:05,200 Let's stay on track. But they don't realize, like, I always tell 'em like, 974 00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,360 there's method to my madness. Like there's a reason I'm, 975 00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:08,720 because I wanna make them feel. 976 00:51:08,900 --> 00:51:11,560 See, I, I tell people there's a madness to my method. 977 00:51:11,780 --> 00:51:14,080 Oh, well there's that. Oh, see, this is why we're friends. 978 00:51:14,150 --> 00:51:17,160 This is why we're besties, , yin, yin and yang. Well, 979 00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,520 maybe I should start saying now I'm gonna copy you, but I, I. 980 00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:23,280 Know folks, everything that I'm not good at, sir, is good at. 981 00:51:23,420 --> 00:51:26,400 And everything that I am good at, sir is better at. So go ahead. 982 00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:29,600 Oh, stop it. Oh, stop it. Oh my God. Watch me teach one day. I might, 983 00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:31,360 you might disagree. Oh. 984 00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:33,360 my teaching. Go ahead. 985 00:51:33,720 --> 00:51:37,720 . But two dope teachers who, who teach sometimes. No, 986 00:51:37,940 --> 00:51:40,880 you can't teach. You can't teach. That's the whole, that's why we're dope. Yo. 987 00:51:41,340 --> 00:51:43,280 That's right. . But . 988 00:51:43,980 --> 00:51:47,840 But I will say that I want kids to feel lit. 989 00:51:48,060 --> 00:51:51,280 I'm gonna come up with a phrase like, let me think of it. Current events, 990 00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:54,080 literate, I, we can come up with a better one later workshop it. 991 00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:56,720 But this idea that I want kids to be able to do that too, 992 00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:01,600 I love that idea of kids being able to seamlessly connect 993 00:52:02,270 --> 00:52:05,760 something that they're learning about during the New Deal and connect it to 994 00:52:05,870 --> 00:52:09,280 something in Biden's program or something that didn't happen during Trump's 995 00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:12,640 program, or they tried to make happen during another presidency. Right. So like, 996 00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:16,480 I don't wanna bash anyone. So I, I want kids. That's why I do that in the class. 997 00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:18,600 I want them to realize. 'cause I think it feels, 998 00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:22,280 I think that when they learn about government and civics and pay attention to 999 00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:23,480 the news, it's, it's scary. 1000 00:52:23,550 --> 00:52:27,120 It's like intimidating because it's all this new information at once. 1001 00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:30,520 Especially if they haven't been paying attention to the news at all. 1002 00:52:30,780 --> 00:52:35,320 And so I want, I wanna model that it can be a seamless process. 1003 00:52:36,060 --> 00:52:38,560 And so I guess if I were to analyze why I do it, 1004 00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:43,000 that's why I want them to feel comfortable and confident 1005 00:52:43,460 --> 00:52:46,680 in that. Even they can understand that they can relate the past, the present. 1006 00:52:46,830 --> 00:52:51,480 It's not that hard. It's just knowing it and understanding the content. Oh, 1007 00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:52,400 wait, you went quiet. 1008 00:52:56,710 --> 00:52:57,543 Yeah. Yeah. 1009 00:52:57,740 --> 00:52:58,800 So I, um, 1010 00:52:59,190 --> 00:53:03,840 started my career at an alternative school where a lot of students had just not 1011 00:53:04,070 --> 00:53:07,280 been in school much over the, over their entire high school careers. 1012 00:53:07,580 --> 00:53:12,520 And even there when we, when I taught history, they would say, well, 1013 00:53:12,820 --> 00:53:17,680 Mr. That we do that in Denver too, Mr. I like that. That's just like today. 1014 00:53:18,740 --> 00:53:20,120 So I never even had to 1015 00:53:21,870 --> 00:53:26,080 manufacture or guide them to a connection in saying, Hey, do we see any, 1016 00:53:26,270 --> 00:53:28,280 they would kind of bring that unprompted and, 1017 00:53:28,300 --> 00:53:32,960 and I think the way you kind of explain the way that 1018 00:53:33,030 --> 00:53:36,240 your other topics come into conversations, 1019 00:53:36,300 --> 00:53:40,800 you might be talking about the new deal and then it leads to other things. Um, 1020 00:53:42,030 --> 00:53:45,440 that helps me view the teaching of history. 1021 00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:47,960 And actually my practice was a lot like that. Cool. 1022 00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:52,720 Where I really view the teaching and the learning and the studying of history as 1023 00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:54,880 a dynamic thing. Yeah. It's not static. 1024 00:53:55,030 --> 00:53:57,720 It's not a list of facts that you just have to know that have never been 1025 00:53:57,720 --> 00:54:00,160 interrogated. And when I talked to students, 1026 00:54:00,420 --> 00:54:02,840 so I was teaching AP world history Oh, cool. 1027 00:54:02,900 --> 00:54:06,640 And what I would share with my students is that, you know, 1028 00:54:06,700 --> 00:54:08,520 we would talk about point of view statements Right. 1029 00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:12,120 Back when they were doing p o v statements. Yeah. And I would say, 1030 00:54:12,140 --> 00:54:15,520 and they would say, well, like what? Like, 1031 00:54:15,950 --> 00:54:17,960 what if there's like a million points of view? I'm like, well, 1032 00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:18,793 there probably are. 1033 00:54:19,660 --> 00:54:23,760 And so our job as historians is to learn what those points of view are and what, 1034 00:54:23,780 --> 00:54:25,040 and why people have them, 1035 00:54:25,340 --> 00:54:30,120 and why people felt that those points of view that they had were 1036 00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:33,400 absolutely rational and absolutely reasonable to the point that they 1037 00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:38,360 communicated them. Right? Yes. And so what it sounds like is, um, Mr. 1038 00:54:38,510 --> 00:54:40,160 Rosenberg's classroom is, 1039 00:54:40,860 --> 00:54:44,920 is dynamic and it is establishing those connections and, 1040 00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:46,920 and that the students are able to make those connections. 1041 00:54:47,140 --> 00:54:52,120 And I think that is the work. Um, you know, we talk about this, 1042 00:54:52,260 --> 00:54:54,760 the urgency of history. I, and, you know, I'm biased. I'm, 1043 00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:58,200 I was a history major, I taught history. Um, 1044 00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:02,560 I just don't think that there's a more important discipline for our time right 1045 00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:04,120 now. There's no, I agree. 1046 00:55:04,150 --> 00:55:07,960 Nothing else is possible without understanding the history and what came before 1047 00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:12,280 and how people saw it. Um, and that's, that's the work. 1048 00:55:12,670 --> 00:55:15,480 Yeah. And I feel like also the other thing I like to, 1049 00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:18,760 I I've been not talking a lot about with them is I, I, 1050 00:55:18,900 --> 00:55:22,440 I'm really mindful of the fact that so much of American history, 1051 00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:26,800 when you start interrogating it and looking at it through a critical lens Yeah. 1052 00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:30,480 In let's say a complex lens, the one that they don't want us doing in Florida. 1053 00:55:30,610 --> 00:55:34,800 Right. Right. Which is, you know, the negative history. I'm really, 1054 00:55:35,740 --> 00:55:38,840 I'm of the mindset that it, that it makes them, 1055 00:55:39,140 --> 00:55:40,520 the kids already know that stuff. 1056 00:55:40,860 --> 00:55:44,080 And your job is to give them the tools to understand it and also to, 1057 00:55:44,100 --> 00:55:46,320 and that doesn't make them hate America. Right. Right. 1058 00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:50,440 It makes them appreciate it more because when they understand the struggles that 1059 00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:52,400 people went through I to, 1060 00:55:52,420 --> 00:55:57,280 to get us to becoming more of a multiracial, multiracial democracy, 1061 00:55:57,330 --> 00:55:59,000 which we've yet to achieve. Yeah. 1062 00:55:59,100 --> 00:56:03,520 And to understand that sometimes there's decades where you see it going in that 1063 00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:06,800 direction, and other times they're not. But then there's those human beings, 1064 00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:10,000 those individuals who say, no, I'm not gonna let it go this way. 1065 00:56:10,140 --> 00:56:13,240 I'm gonna bring it back to the direction where everyone's included. 1066 00:56:13,300 --> 00:56:15,800 Or we try to do that. I think that's so important. 1067 00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:17,760 I don't think that makes them hate it more. 1068 00:56:18,340 --> 00:56:22,320 And one thing I'm really getting talking a lot about this year in the pa first 1069 00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:25,040 couple weeks is this idea that, and I, 1070 00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:27,840 it's funny because I was interviewing Congressman Bowman for something else 1071 00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:29,920 mm-hmm. , and he was saying the same thing. I was like, okay, cool. 1072 00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:31,280 Other people are saying that . Yes. 1073 00:56:31,460 --> 00:56:35,840 But it's this idea that human beings created these systems that we're living 1074 00:56:35,950 --> 00:56:39,880 with now. And so I said to my students, so if human beings created them, 1075 00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:43,800 what can they also do? They can tear them down. But wait, 1076 00:56:43,940 --> 00:56:47,520 the people listening who think I wanna tear everything down and build up better 1077 00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:50,760 structures. Right. That's right. That's right. I people, and I think that is, 1078 00:56:51,270 --> 00:56:55,160 that, that's the theme of a good history class, which is that in the end, 1079 00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:59,360 these systems didn't just get imposed on us from up above 1080 00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:04,840 human beings worked really hard to create white supremacy and the patriarchy and 1081 00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:08,440 all these systems that have hurt people, including, you know, 1082 00:57:08,500 --> 00:57:12,320 not dealing with our planet and not addressing global warming. Yeah. 1083 00:57:12,500 --> 00:57:14,000 And so we can do the reverse, 1084 00:57:14,620 --> 00:57:19,240 but we actually have to all learn about it and figure out what the best way to 1085 00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:19,940 move forward is. 1086 00:57:19,940 --> 00:57:24,840 So I think you can talk about the negative stuff and frame it in that way and 1087 00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:27,800 not make kids hate America. I think it's possible, you know? 1088 00:57:27,900 --> 00:57:31,240 Yep. And I never had that experience of, and I taught black and brown children. 1089 00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:35,520 I never, I very rarely did someone say, man, I hate this country. Like, 1090 00:57:35,820 --> 00:57:36,800 it was it, 1091 00:57:37,110 --> 00:57:41,560 they always had this optimistic view that we can make things better and we can, 1092 00:57:41,740 --> 00:57:43,920 we can look to the future. Well, 1093 00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:46,800 something that you said really reminds me of something that I've been trying to 1094 00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:48,520 hold in my mind a lot. Um, 1095 00:57:48,620 --> 00:57:53,120 the first is that systems don't sustain themselves. 1096 00:57:53,230 --> 00:57:55,840 Systems are upheld by people. Right. 1097 00:57:56,060 --> 00:57:59,400 And so what are the decisions that we all make? And I, 1098 00:57:59,420 --> 00:58:03,160 and of course being in a central office space, I see that very clearly, right? 1099 00:58:03,230 --> 00:58:03,520 Yeah. 1100 00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:08,480 What are the decisions that we make every day that are either disrupting or 1101 00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:12,480 reinforcing the system? It's, it's either or. Yeah. Um, yeah. 1102 00:58:12,540 --> 00:58:15,600 And then the other thing I think about a lot is, you know, 1103 00:58:15,830 --> 00:58:19,240 when we talk about tearing things down, right? I mean, for me, 1104 00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:23,040 I think more in terms of what am I creating that's just gonna render these 1105 00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:25,560 current understandings and systems obsolete. Like, 1106 00:58:25,580 --> 00:58:29,360 do you still walk around with a Walkman? I don't like, I don't need to. Like, 1107 00:58:29,540 --> 00:58:33,400 the Walkman was probably fine for its time, and it was, 1108 00:58:33,940 --> 00:58:36,320 we didn't see any better possibility at that point. 1109 00:58:37,140 --> 00:58:41,320 Now we've got these little devices Yeah. That have our, the whole, uh, 1110 00:58:41,550 --> 00:58:45,400 life and a text from one of my direct reports, um, Yeah. On them, 1111 00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:46,320 which is okay. And more. 1112 00:58:46,420 --> 00:58:47,040 And more and. 1113 00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:51,560 More and more. Yeah. Um, so I think that's really powerful stuff. Like yes, 1114 00:58:51,650 --> 00:58:55,960 eventually something has to give. Um, but it's like, 1115 00:58:56,100 --> 00:58:58,680 if the revolution happens tomorrow, do we still have to work on Monday? 1116 00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:02,840 I mean Yeah. There's still stuff to do. . Yeah. Like afterwards. Yeah. 1117 00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:03,160 We still. 1118 00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:04,240 Have to keep working. Yeah. 1119 00:59:04,350 --> 00:59:04,640 Yeah. 1120 00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:07,680 So apologies to anybody who thought the revolution would immediately end to us 1121 00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:12,600 not working. Uh, we will get there. Just not this weekend. Yeah. 1122 00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:14,880 Not this weekend. Man. I could talk to you all night, sir. 1123 00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:16,920 I know. It's too, we can, 1124 00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:19,760 we can maybe do a part two or maybe I can we can do more. Or maybe I can. 1125 00:59:20,210 --> 00:59:24,760 Maybe I can be Ooh, let's do it. Let's do it. You're on the roster. Awesome. Um, 1126 00:59:24,820 --> 00:59:29,280 so I talked about Walkman's and I talked about creative destruction slash 1127 00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:32,800 planned obsolescence. Who knows which one it is? Yeah. Who know? Um, 1128 00:59:32,820 --> 00:59:35,600 so on your Walkman, no, just kidding. Yeah. Um, yeah. I have a. 1129 00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:36,320 Walkman, my. 1130 00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:39,200 Sports man. You listen to music. You, you like music. Of course. 1131 00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:43,800 I like music and pizza like a normal person. And I And pizza. Yes. Normal pizza. 1132 00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:46,800 Musical pizza is even better. I, um, 1133 00:59:47,790 --> 00:59:50,400 feel like I might not be surprised by what you choose. 1134 00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:55,440 'cause I am a devote a devotee of Sarabeth Nation. Sarah Beth Rose Nation. 1135 00:59:55,540 --> 00:59:56,100 Oh my God. 1136 00:59:56,100 --> 00:59:56,640 You're. 1137 00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:58,680 Fascinating. I follow your stuff. I like watching this stuff. 1138 00:59:58,860 --> 01:00:00,280 So I might have some guesses. However, 1139 01:00:02,010 --> 01:00:06,780 what are the top five tracks slash musicians slash styles that are showing 1140 01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:08,620 up on your music player? And I want, 1141 01:00:08,620 --> 01:00:11,340 and I wanna qualify that a little bit by saying, 1142 01:00:11,690 --> 01:00:13,620 this doesn't mean your top five ever. No. 1143 01:00:13,650 --> 01:00:14,860 Yeah. Please don't make me. 1144 01:00:15,570 --> 01:00:18,580 It's a snapshot. Right? A snapshot I'm looking at right now. Yeah. 1145 01:00:18,580 --> 01:00:22,580 Moment in fall, almost fall of 2023 in this place, 1146 01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:27,260 in this corner of the metaverse. Like what is, 1147 01:00:27,450 --> 01:00:29,740 what is resonating with you now? And it's also not, 1148 01:00:29,740 --> 01:00:34,260 doesn't have to be hierarchical. Okay. So you can just say, these are the five, 1149 01:00:34,510 --> 01:00:37,780 right. And yeah. Um, you can have ties. 1150 01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:43,900 Oh wow. I, this is the best. See, this is how Gen X does it, 1151 01:00:43,900 --> 01:00:44,780 because that's right. 1152 01:00:44,980 --> 01:00:47,900 I know this is a theme and I'm sure people listening are like, 1153 01:00:47,900 --> 01:00:49,700 she needs to stop it with the Gen X thing. 1154 01:00:49,980 --> 01:00:53,700 not because also Gen X people storm the capital. So we're not all great. 1155 01:00:53,980 --> 01:00:55,460 I don't speak for them. Right. Yeah. 1156 01:00:55,760 --> 01:01:00,140 We also raised some, a lot of us also raised Gen Z, whether it was our, 1157 01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:03,780 our actual children Yes. Or the children that we taught in our classrooms. Yeah. 1158 01:01:03,780 --> 01:01:07,540 We raised those children who were ready to like, just. 1159 01:01:07,610 --> 01:01:08,740 Tear it down, dismantle. 1160 01:01:08,740 --> 01:01:09,570 Everything. So. 1161 01:01:09,570 --> 01:01:13,340 Like, I take credit for that and because I've taught a lot of them mm-hmm. 1162 01:01:13,380 --> 01:01:15,420 . Okay. But I like the way you asked the que. Okay. 1163 01:01:15,420 --> 01:01:19,460 So I will say that I was talking to a friend the other day and he was saying 1164 01:01:19,490 --> 01:01:21,580 like, new music, you know, 1165 01:01:21,580 --> 01:01:25,100 we were talking about how we still listen to the indie music of the two. 1166 01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:28,540 If we're listening to rock, it's like all the like indie music of the twenties, 1167 01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:31,180 two early, like the strokes and stuff. Yeah. Like, 1168 01:01:31,180 --> 01:01:33,100 they're really odd after that. It's really odd. 1169 01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:38,340 But I was saying I love Fred again. Do you know who Fred again is? 1170 01:01:38,860 --> 01:01:40,860 I do. Wow. I love Fred. 1171 01:01:40,860 --> 01:01:41,820 Again. Fred. 1172 01:01:41,820 --> 01:01:43,500 Again Is Fred again. So good. Fred, congratulations. 1173 01:01:43,500 --> 01:01:44,940 First appearance on a top five. 1174 01:01:45,130 --> 01:01:49,700 Okay. Fred again. And if anyone's listening and wants to gift me with tickets, 1175 01:01:50,020 --> 01:01:53,380 'cause they're really expensive in New York, but it's like, you know, 1176 01:01:53,380 --> 01:01:56,820 these tickets are so expensive, but I lo he's just, he's a dj. Yep. 1177 01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:58,980 But if you watch anything on, if you, 1178 01:01:58,980 --> 01:02:01,540 now that I've said this and you're listening, it's gonna show up on your TikTok. 1179 01:02:01,740 --> 01:02:02,460 'cause that's how the algorithm. 1180 01:02:02,460 --> 01:02:02,740 Works. 1181 01:02:02,740 --> 01:02:04,260 . That's right. Fred. Again. Fred again. Fred. Again, 1182 01:02:04,260 --> 01:02:05,860 it's gonna then play All Cool. 1183 01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:07,220 So I'm gonna have to look for it. 1184 01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:10,860 Dj, it's, it's, he's great. He just, it's amazing, brilliant. Great samples. 1185 01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:15,060 And really just love that beautiful songs and also good ones to work out to. 1186 01:02:15,250 --> 01:02:17,940 Yeah. And then I guess I'm going through my playlist. I mean, 1187 01:02:18,340 --> 01:02:21,120 I like such a range of music because, yep. Okay. 1188 01:02:21,140 --> 01:02:26,040 So I will say that I know that people rag on Drake all the time, 1189 01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:30,120 but he was my number one artist on Spotify last year. Sorry, not sorry. I mean, 1190 01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:31,720 I mean, I guess I listen to Drake a lot. 1191 01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:33,920 I don't dunno if it's gonna happen this year, but that's a, 1192 01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:36,320 that comes up a lot on my playlist. Um, yeah. 1193 01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:40,800 Drake resonates with a lot of folks. I'm not gonna lie, I I don't always get it. 1194 01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:43,200 I don't actively hate his music. Um, yeah. 1195 01:02:43,220 --> 01:02:44,680 No, the newer stuff I don't love as. 1196 01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:44,770 Much. 1197 01:02:44,770 --> 01:02:45,640 Don't. But yeah. 1198 01:02:46,020 --> 01:02:48,800 But also, like a lot of people, Sage, right. 1199 01:02:48,870 --> 01:02:51,400 More people probably agree with you than with me. So I. 1200 01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:56,040 No, I, I, I, I'm slow. People are slowly trying to get me off the train beyond, 1201 01:02:56,140 --> 01:02:58,160 and I mean, some of my stuff is gonna be like honest. 1202 01:02:58,190 --> 01:03:01,280 Well to me, like I, it's, to me it's a little bit like Eminem, right? Yeah. 1203 01:03:01,430 --> 01:03:05,480 Like Eminem I thought was just annoying when I, when he first came out. 1204 01:03:05,900 --> 01:03:08,080 And now as I've aged as a hip hop head, 1205 01:03:08,180 --> 01:03:12,640 I'm like actually kind of a gifted mc Right. And kind of, 1206 01:03:12,990 --> 01:03:15,640 kind of unique. And so I've come to, yeah. 1207 01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:16,513 I agree. 1208 01:03:16,740 --> 01:03:20,680 My daughter has me in my inner phone as Eminem's number one fan. So I'm like. 1209 01:03:20,860 --> 01:03:23,800 Oh, thanks. Really? Wow. Okay. So that's changed. So I, okay. 1210 01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:27,240 I'll get more respect from you because my favorite Jay-Z album of all time, 1211 01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:31,400 I love Jay-Z. Jay-Z is above it all. Like, if I'm walking to work, 1212 01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:35,440 I usually put on Jay-Z and Reasonable Doubt is the best Jay-Z album. 1213 01:03:35,460 --> 01:03:37,400 Yes. Of all time. Say that. 1214 01:03:37,490 --> 01:03:42,040 Reasonable Doubt. Say put it on Start to Finish. That's an album. 1215 01:03:42,060 --> 01:03:44,040 That's it's novel. It's no Skip album. It's no Skip. 1216 01:03:44,050 --> 01:03:46,920 Album. And no matter what your mood, it works. 1217 01:03:47,340 --> 01:03:47,800 Yep. It. 1218 01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:49,200 Works. Right. So I love. 1219 01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:49,340 That. 1220 01:03:49,340 --> 01:03:53,080 All over the place. Yeah. You gotta include Reasonable Doubt. Love, love it. 1221 01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:56,800 And, and I, and I of course, bi Beyonce, like, yeah, everything Beyonce. 1222 01:03:57,100 --> 01:03:59,960 But I will say that like, I'm looking, I have this, I always have like, 1223 01:03:59,960 --> 01:04:02,560 running playlists and the one I have recently, 1224 01:04:02,670 --> 01:04:07,520 it's like my late summer run and I put on Green Light. I love, it's a, 1225 01:04:07,670 --> 01:04:10,080 it's a green light. Beyonce is just, 1226 01:04:10,260 --> 01:04:13,560 and it's the Free Mason's remix if you don't wanna. 1227 01:04:13,590 --> 01:04:15,680 Work out. Okay. Oh, I haven't heard that one. Put that it's. 1228 01:04:15,940 --> 01:04:18,760 But Green Light, I feel like people don't put that on their list. 1229 01:04:19,030 --> 01:04:20,040 It's just a good, 1230 01:04:20,580 --> 01:04:24,480 fun Beyonce song And Upgrade You is also another great Beyonce Beyonce song. 1231 01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:26,240 Oh yeah. Those are the songs that I feel like. 1232 01:04:26,980 --> 01:04:31,320 What's the, um, free the Freedom song? The Oh yeah. From Lemonade. 1233 01:04:31,700 --> 01:04:34,040 Ken Lemonade with, with Kendrick Lemonade's Lemonade is, well. 1234 01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:35,880 Lemonade actually that whole album. Yeah. 1235 01:04:36,020 --> 01:04:39,480 But that collab song with Kendrick is Wild. Great. 1236 01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:44,480 Also, I love Kendrick. I love Kendrick. I know his, for his most recent album. 1237 01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:48,120 I think some people didn't like some of his references. We won't get into that. 1238 01:04:48,660 --> 01:04:53,520 But I, he's a, he's a master and I do, I have, I already said five. 1239 01:04:53,710 --> 01:04:54,800 Damn. That's. 1240 01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:55,920 That's alright. You can have a tie. Tie. 1241 01:04:56,030 --> 01:04:58,800 Okay. And I mean also there's, I like Rihanna and Nikki. 1242 01:04:59,420 --> 01:05:00,253 Of course. 1243 01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:01,240 Rihanna and Nikki. Yeah. 1244 01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:03,440 Why is he either words basic, I feel like I'm basic. 1245 01:05:03,900 --> 01:05:08,680 I'm not giving you, I'm not giving you my like, you know, off the, 1246 01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:12,520 I guess Fred again was my cool one. No. And then I will say that was a cool one. 1247 01:05:12,790 --> 01:05:17,000 This, this goes out to Mr. Servin because we were getting a, the students, 1248 01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:18,840 students and I were talking how we love Drake. He's like, 1249 01:05:18,910 --> 01:05:22,520 have you listened to the new Drake? I'm like, text Go Green is such a good song. 1250 01:05:22,860 --> 01:05:26,600 And Mr. Servin was like, play it. And he is like, is it? And I was like, oh, 1251 01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:29,360 I guess I don't know that I'm trying to explain it. 1252 01:05:29,650 --> 01:05:32,840 Maybe I just can relate to when the text go green. I'm just kidding. Yeah. 1253 01:05:32,860 --> 01:05:36,560 But I just, I like the sentiment. But I will say that then he told me, 1254 01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:39,960 and I hope it doesn't start playing, he said, you're missing out. He's like, 1255 01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:43,880 he told me and he's right. This is a really good album. So it's, uh, 1256 01:05:44,110 --> 01:05:46,640 well now you're gonna have to have it explicit. No, I'm just kidding. 1257 01:05:46,860 --> 01:05:49,600 So JPEG mafia jpeg mafiaa, Jenny Brown. 1258 01:05:49,980 --> 01:05:52,040 The album's called Scaring the Hose. 1259 01:05:52,700 --> 01:05:53,880 Oh, okay. Okay. . 1260 01:05:54,100 --> 01:05:54,320 Put. 1261 01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:56,120 It in your ears. I don't know that one. Me. 1262 01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:58,240 Neither. He was like, no, no, no, just listen to it. 1263 01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:01,160 And he started playing it for me and a couple students and we were like, oh, 1264 01:06:01,990 --> 01:06:05,800 good stuff. Okay. And I'm, I'm into that. So I think I've said 20. 1265 01:06:06,380 --> 01:06:10,080 Yep. That's great. This is you, you're, you're in almost Eric Hale territory. 1266 01:06:10,460 --> 01:06:11,060 Uh. 1267 01:06:11,060 --> 01:06:13,920 And I will say you got Led Zeppelin always Led Zeppelin. 1268 01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:15,920 Lead. Yeah. Led Zeppelin's. Good. Gotta that out. 1269 01:06:16,070 --> 01:06:20,480 Eric Hale 2021 Teacher of the Year. My guy from Texas. Yeah. Um, 1270 01:06:20,980 --> 01:06:24,800 who I believe he still texts me songs today and we interviewed him three years 1271 01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:25,633 ago. 1272 01:06:25,780 --> 01:06:27,720 So I'm so, uh, yeah, you can just cut me off 'cause I'm about to. 1273 01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:30,800 'cause I do love. I listen to E D M when I go running and I listen to, 1274 01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:34,120 I listen to it all. I listen to it all name a song. That's great. 1275 01:06:34,180 --> 01:06:35,560 Except for country. Sorry. 1276 01:06:35,710 --> 01:06:37,920 Yeah. I listen to some kind. No, but there's some, 1277 01:06:37,950 --> 01:06:42,400 there's some definitely anti-cop like, you know, 1278 01:06:42,910 --> 01:06:47,880 anarchy, like country music, like the real stuff. So shout out to my guy Sam, 1279 01:06:48,180 --> 01:06:50,880 who exposed me to his like, 1280 01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:55,840 dope country music that is just about working people and 1281 01:06:55,990 --> 01:06:56,840 defying authority. 1282 01:06:57,230 --> 01:06:59,040 Okay. Can I say one more song? ? Yes. 1283 01:06:59,230 --> 01:07:00,360 Gary Gary Clark. 1284 01:07:00,390 --> 01:07:04,840 Okay. Here's an amazing song that I play a lot. Gary Clark Jr. 1285 01:07:05,430 --> 01:07:06,263 This Land. 1286 01:07:07,430 --> 01:07:08,263 Okay. Yep. 1287 01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:10,480 You know that song? That is a great. 1288 01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:14,160 I know that one song. Yeah, that one. That, that's a great, um, inclusion. 1289 01:07:14,300 --> 01:07:16,120 All right. Okay. I'll stop. We're gonna, I'll stop. Yeah. We're, 1290 01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:18,040 we're gonna keep talking about music for the next four hours, 1291 01:07:18,180 --> 01:07:22,320 but we will not make the rest of you listen to it. Sir Rosenberg, 1292 01:07:22,980 --> 01:07:26,120 I'm so happy you joined me tonight. That was. 1293 01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:26,710 So fun. 1294 01:07:26,710 --> 01:07:27,150 Yeah. 1295 01:07:27,150 --> 01:07:30,760 This is a really dumb question because I'm pretty sure that everybody already 1296 01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:33,200 knows where to find you, but where do people find you on social media to. 1297 01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:36,640 Partake find in your work? Sorry, I cut you off. I, they can find, 1298 01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:38,920 I almost like so excited to tell. I'm like, where can they find me? 1299 01:07:39,070 --> 01:07:43,120 What find me everywhere. I used to have a joke. I was on every website. 1300 01:07:43,340 --> 01:07:48,080 Um, no, but you can find me at Sir Beth Rose. So my name is Sir Beth Rosenberg, 1301 01:07:48,140 --> 01:07:51,960 but I thought, oh, no one's gonna know it's me 'cause I'm just using my ated. 1302 01:07:52,550 --> 01:07:55,760 It's clearly if you Google me, it's obviously you. It comes up , sir. 1303 01:07:55,830 --> 01:07:57,520 Yeah, it's my face. So can. 1304 01:07:57,520 --> 01:07:58,260 Confirm. 1305 01:07:58,260 --> 01:08:02,040 Can confirm. Yes, it's me. I'm Sir Beth Rose. And also follow my sub stack. 1306 01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:04,720 It's called Yo Miss You Miss, 1307 01:08:04,830 --> 01:08:08,320 it's Sarah beth rosenberg Miss sub.com. Yeah. Love it. But it's. 1308 01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:10,800 A, I need, need to start putting things on my sub stack. Yeah. Yeah. 1309 01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:11,720 Get your sub stack going. 1310 01:08:12,300 --> 01:08:14,560 For real. Yeah, it's going. I'm just not doing anything with it. 1311 01:08:14,860 --> 01:08:19,200 So that's how you find, um, my bestie. 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