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Love

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In a traveling mister rochelle.

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Yes. I left the thomas.

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In a traveling

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shaw.

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Just like a

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I have never met.

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But I learned to find the time.

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I have never.

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But I plan to.

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Yes, I do.

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Because he looks so fine

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that.

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Welcome to the Tom Show for our financial

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hour brought to you by the Pre financial

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group. Where we make your money work for

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you, Joining us.

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Chad S, and here is our host, Tom

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D p.

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So this is the fourth song

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I played from the Album pretzel logic.

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Us steel dan,

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it's basically,

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the it's a it's kind of a 12

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bar blues is

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shuffle if you will. But

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the vocals,

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or the lyrics are kind of about time

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travel going back in time.

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You know, I'd love to be a singer

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in a traveling menstrual show,

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I'd like to be with Napoleon. That's the.

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Platform. Yeah. This is good. This is this

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is a good

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cleanup up. He said you must be jo

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song, where did you get the

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What's good.

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Gotta be joking someone? Where did you get

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those shoes?

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You know, it reminds me of a...

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Do you ever watched the movie patton?

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Like,

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in the movie patent, Patton talks about having

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at former wars.

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He thought of himself as having been

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rein,

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you know,

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in Greece, maybe Malta,

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He talked about a a battle that was

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there,

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and he said I was there.

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Sometimes I look at the market,

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and I feel like

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You know, I've I've been rein.

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It... It's... This is,

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I've seen all this before.

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All these emotions. And yet they feel so

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new.

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And history doesn't always repeat in certain crimes.

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That's a good that's a good point, but,

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you know, you you pulled out this,

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really interesting article.

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That is about

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a

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a study done by Vanguard.

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what they looked at was

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people

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who rolled over their 04:01 k's

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into a vanguard our ray.

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And something like over half of them had

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stayed in cash for the last 8 years

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can money market funds,

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about a about a third of them had

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stayed in money market funds. So basically, they

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missed out on 7 years of market returns,

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and this is when cash was

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nothing. I mean, it wasn't wasn't earning any.

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cash. Right. Okay.

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I've been around

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this

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business for long enough to know

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that you simply

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never...

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any kind of

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staying in cash.

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It just doesn't happen.

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it should simply be an interval.

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Because the way money is made in investing

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is by being

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invested and

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Vanguard

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concluded, and this is an article from Bloomberg.

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I don't know why anybody would subscribe to.

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Well, actually, it's a... It's Wall Street Journal,

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Bloomberg burton ripping them off. So they reprint

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it. Yep.

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It's a joke. It's kind of an inside

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joke we have here.

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Americans with cash heavy Ira gave up. More

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than a hundred and 72000000000

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dollars a year

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in retirement wealth they could have generated by

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investing in stocks and bonds. The

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Vanguard

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concludes. Now that's

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completely a blanket

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sort of statement predicated upon everybody being in

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the S and P 500 or something like

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that and nobody ever is. They don't break

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down the mix of stocks and funds. But

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right. Know. The the point of the article,

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the point of the study is that...

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people,

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I think people have a fear

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of getting it wrong.

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than the fear

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of missing out on gains.

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That's all I can conclude

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I will say this

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having been in the investment business as long

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as I have.

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I started in the business,

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when you still somewhat had

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fixed commissions,

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so that where you went

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you you didn't have

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firms were not negotiating commissions. And we had

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no such thing

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as Ira and 4 1 case. Within a

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of me getting in the business,

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Ira got started, 04:01 case got started,

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and then

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the commission rates began to come down.

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almost 0.

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In order to gain information about stocks and

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bonds back in 19 78 or 80,

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you had to subscribe... Very expensive services

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that gave you a lot of information that

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you couldn't understand today. There are basically

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the

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services out there for lots of folks.

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And yet there are still many, many people

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who are completely

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uneducated about

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how to invest their own money. They don't.

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They they haven't either they either haven't taken

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advantage of

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the

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information that's available

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or they just don't know how and they

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haven't learned how.

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And this is why I have a job

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my job

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is to help you

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the investor,

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get your toe in the water, get your

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money working for you,

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and moving in the right

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direction,

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getting the money invested

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and growing.

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Because many of you just won't do it

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or don't do it.

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Vanguard,

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is showing us

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that it's a fact.

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A lot of folks just aren't doing it.

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in their summary, I actually looked at looked

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up the Vanguard study as well, but they're

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saying that their estimation

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for investors under the age of 55, and

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investor is in cash,

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but they... If they roll over their funds

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And I... It's not age 55 to 65.

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It's just investors under age 55,

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they think that if you put money in

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a target date fund that's appropriate to your

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age.

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It means you'll add about a hundred and

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dollars to your balance in your Ira. And

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that's just hard fun. Right. That's not even

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trying to to do anything other than participate

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in the broad market. Yeah.

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I mean, it's it's it's mind boggling. And

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I mean, it's the reasons that people don't

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invest the money, sometimes they're they're afraid that's

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getting ready to go down. But sometimes, I

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mean, that... This is what I I found

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government shocking was, they surveyed, some people

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who had rolled their money over in 20

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23 and found that

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68 percent of them who were sitting in

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cash, thought they had invested. They had no

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idea they weren't invested. So they just... I

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you gotta pay a little bit of attention

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I think. So they thought just by virtue

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of putting it in the Ira.

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It somehow got invested. Well, that's just not

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reading the instructions. Right. They they thought there

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was a some type of a 04:01 k.

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maybe there was a default investment, but the

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laws and rules are different for Ira than

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for 4 or 1 case. So,

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basically, you You have to

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for. 4 1 or a an ira by

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nature of what its name is it's an

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individual.

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Retirement account,

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individual, which means that it is your retirement

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account, which means that you

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are the responsible party

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for getting the money

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in your Ira

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invested the way you

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individually want to invest it.

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an individual

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retirement account can never be part of a

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like AA41K

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is.

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It's never gonna be a joint account.

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Individual retirement account is an individual account. It

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always... You can leave it to a spouse

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or a loved 1.

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As the beneficiary. But while you're alive, it's

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only your account. Therefore you alone

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are responsible

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for how it gets invested? Now, can you

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come to an adviser and say, I want

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you to manage my individual

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retirement account for me. Absolutely.

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That's why we're here.

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you have to make that investment decision. The

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money is not gonna get invested. On its

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own just because you rolled it into a

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brokerage account that says Ira on it. By

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default,

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that money will probably go in a money

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market fund. And you're gonna get paid whatever

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the money market funds getting paid and up

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until a year and a half, 2 years

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ago, they were paying effectively 0.

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were keeping your money in

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a money market fund for the... Last 6,

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you weren't getting very much in the way

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of

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interest or dividends.

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I guess, I I hesitate to sc any

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potential listeners, but I'm gonna do it anyway.

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It's a case of being penny wise and

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pound absolutely worried about, Hey, I don't wanna

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pay a a management fee? What have you

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given up? What is the opportunity cost because

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you've sat in cash? I mean, these

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investors. I mean, what the Vanguard study also

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found is they... Somebody had funded a a

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rollover in cash, and it stayed in cash

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for 12 months.

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He was highly likely. It would still be

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in cash 6 years later. So... Good. Yeah.

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I mean, I just can't even imagine losing

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out on that much.

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In lost... I mean, opportunity cost lost market

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returns

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because some power are just. Yeah.

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They might even have known about it, and

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they said, I'm okay with that. You know?

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Yeah. At least the money is there. They...

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What they're not taking into account.

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Is what inflation is doing to their money.

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There are many people.

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And part of what we do

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with the show and and what we're talking

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to people.

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If we're if we're investing money

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in dollar den

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security which we do.

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We're therefore going to have to talk about

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dollars.

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What are dollars?

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Dollars are a

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means of exchange

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to unit of exchange.

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And as

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the government

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the fed, the treasury

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prints more money,

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those dollars become deb debate, and that thing

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is called inflation and what it means

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is that it takes more of those dollars

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to buy

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a certain thing or a certain basket of

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things

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each year. There people have been talking about

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how Guy bought a hundred and 50 dollars

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worth of stuff at Walmart

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2 and a half years ago, It's now

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it costs 400 or something. Right I don't

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know if that's true or not. I do

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know that it's more expensive now.

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And

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if you're...

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The the the only reason,

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the only reason

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to invest.

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The only reason to invest

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is to crease the purchasing power of the

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dollars that you invest. That's it.

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People can say, oh, I like buying companies

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and stuff like that. You don't like buying

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them if they don't increase

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you know, the purchasing power of your money,

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there is absolutely no reason to invest other

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than to increase the purchasing power, of the

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money you invest in there to have it

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grow because now

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you can buy more stuff with it as

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long as you're getting ahead

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of what inflation is taken away from you.

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Folks, if you're not... If you're a retirement

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investor, and you're not thinking about this stuff

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at least from time to time of you're

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dropping the ball.

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Not getting it done.

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It well, in in the

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the T of this, though is that, I

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mean,

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inflation has been running rampant. And I just...

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I'm, I'm not convinced that we've accurately

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tracked it. I mean, it could not agree

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with you the Cpi since

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to is basically, things cost 10 percent more

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your money's worth the last, you know,

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80... Some stuff up way more than it

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was. Right. I mean, but on average, that's

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that's how much you've lost. So whatever, you

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know, if you're

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if you're getting some sort of an income

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from your retirement portfolio,

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what you're buying with the with the income

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it's generating is is increased by... 10 percent.

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So you're gonna have to either do without

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or,

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hopefully, have your money invested where it's actually

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keeping up with with that inflation. So that's

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something we focus on here. I mean, 1

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thing I wanna point out, you're talking about

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growth and of your purchasing power.

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That can come in a common... A combination

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of of growth from an underlying stock, but

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it can also come by,

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a company that maybe it's more mature, but

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they're generating a dividend, they're paying a dividend

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that's that's ahead of the rate of inflation.

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Which can compound over time. Right. You can

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reinvest what you don't need and and compound.

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But, I mean, they're... We're looking at the

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total return of the whole... Portfolio and the

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components of the portfolio when we put this

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together. We've spent a lot of time

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trying to create something that works in harmony,

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and

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generates the income you need and and and

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has some growth so you can keep up,

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but your purchasing power won't fall behind.

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Yeah. It

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this isn't

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rocket science.

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We're not really doing a rocket science show

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today. We're... We're we do do. We normally

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do. Yeah Yeah.

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We do. Mike's not here. So we can

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do it. Well, that's...

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Yeah. But

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when we do a rocket science show, it's

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real cool.

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But

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the

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it's it's as a... An old football term,

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it's blocking and tackling. It's simply doing the

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simple things.

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You know, investing takes time. You have to

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focus on

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what you're doing, putting the money into and

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if you're not a person that knows how

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to do that or wants to do that.

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For yourself, that's why you talk to an

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adviser. Is

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Okay.

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Because we have had folks come in here

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and they... They're... The money's in cash

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and

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Yes. They wanna get it invested. But you

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have to make that

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sort of mental leap

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to say to yourself, I know I'm not

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getting...

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I'm I'm not where I need to be

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in terms of the growth of my money.

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And my money is not gonna keep up

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with inflation, and I'm not gonna be able

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to buy as many things with it

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as I would like to.

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And

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this is not an easy thing for some

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folks to come to because

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it it's it it involves an emotional.

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I think the use and and care of

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money

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is way more emotional

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than it is intellectual.

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I really do. I I think that

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there's a lot of emotion in it. There's

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a fear of not having or missing out

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all those fears that people have in life

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get transferred

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into their finances.

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And

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one's gotta be fairly strong at times. If

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you don't like doing all that stuff yourself,

452
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or you'd like to have someone to help

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you walk through it. That's what we do.

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Listen.

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And

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It's not always easy. I mean, that this

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job

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can be

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a tough job.

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I mean, I gotta work with Chad.

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And and Elizabeth and Mike. I mean, you

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know, come on. You know that conditions can

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get such that even though you know...

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That

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your company you're invested in that's now under

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fire is

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still

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fine. Nothing's really happened. Well, that short term,

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the market get a most Gonna be an

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intellectual choice

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based on research. Right. Which is the other

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part of what we're trying to say

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is that

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if you've done the research,

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and and research

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in this business is a acc thing.

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You do it this year. You do it

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next year. You do it. You've done it

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for 10 years. You start seeing things you've

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seen before, and that's

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why

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experience can be very helpful to you in

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this business.

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This is what we do. You know, you

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can call us as Elizabeth gonna tell you

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how to do it. How to call us.

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Do you want me to kick on in?

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Because I can do that? Just as long

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as you don't kick me in.

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That's next.

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That's coming.

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You've been listening the top show with chad

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stu or a host Tom pre brought to

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you by Pre financial group where we make

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your money work for you.

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If you would like to meet with us

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and get a plan together, it is

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never too soon

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to start a plan.

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Sooner the better,

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We are a great sounding board, and it's

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not as difficult as these guys have made

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it sound. Sometimes it it is very simple

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incredible.

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It's a very simple process.

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Credit.

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If you'd like to start that process, call

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Gonna scare off. 0 400.

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Was that number again? 23304

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hundred.

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You can also go our website at duke

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pre financial dot com.

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And click on the radio at click on

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Or any addition of the Tom Show.

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We appreciate you listening the financial hour, we

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will be right back with the second segment,

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stay tuned.

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This is Tom D pre.

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At pre Financial group. We believe proper management

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of retirement assets

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is a long term process.

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If you've been listening, we've been advertising for

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and it's a long term engagement when you

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Our accountability

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must also be up to the nature of

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Were still september.

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When your daddy was quite surprised.

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To you with the

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Was

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Welcome back to the Tom Du show brought

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up to you by a pre financial group

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where we make your money work for you.

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Joining us.

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Chad S.

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And here is our host, Tom Du.

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Okay.

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a different album.

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It's called countdown to ecstasy. It's still by

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steel dan.

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About bard college,

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which is up on the Hudson River in

566
00:25:57,704 --> 00:25:58,577
Duchess County,

567
00:25:59,291 --> 00:26:00,005
play this part.

568
00:26:05,584 --> 00:26:07,253
Okay. Well, that... This is kind of a

569
00:26:07,253 --> 00:26:09,001
frame. Don't don't turn it off yet.

570
00:26:09,813 --> 00:26:12,684
Alright. And evidently in 19 69,

571
00:26:13,242 --> 00:26:15,336
there was a large drug bust

572
00:26:16,352 --> 00:26:19,734
for marijuana on the campus of

573
00:26:20,504 --> 00:26:20,901
barred,

574
00:26:21,615 --> 00:26:22,512
44

575
00:26:22,726 --> 00:26:24,869
students were put in jail here. Here we

576
00:26:24,869 --> 00:26:25,107
go.

577
00:26:26,712 --> 00:26:28,786
Oh, that's just other the pm. I thought

578
00:26:28,786 --> 00:26:29,105
that was...

579
00:26:30,062 --> 00:26:31,976
Where he said about. How about now? Yeah.

580
00:26:32,294 --> 00:26:35,085
Where says California Tunnels it. There you go.

581
00:26:40,539 --> 00:26:41,019
I love that.

582
00:26:42,299 --> 00:26:43,740
They almost can see it tumbling.

583
00:26:44,793 --> 00:26:47,265
Okay. He says, I've never going back at

584
00:26:47,265 --> 00:26:47,765
all

585
00:26:48,143 --> 00:26:49,041
because of that

586
00:26:49,817 --> 00:26:52,450
thing that happened. He actually did go back.

587
00:26:53,726 --> 00:26:55,974
For talk about the drive burst? No.

588
00:26:56,692 --> 00:26:57,910
Backed up to

589
00:26:58,686 --> 00:27:00,063
Anna New York

590
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,616
on the Hudson River where barred

591
00:27:02,993 --> 00:27:03,870
college is.

592
00:27:04,604 --> 00:27:06,462
Bart college is like a

593
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:08,300
type college

594
00:27:09,717 --> 00:27:12,765
founded by an epi companion guy. Used to

595
00:27:12,765 --> 00:27:15,469
call Saint Stephen's college, and they changed it

596
00:27:15,469 --> 00:27:16,185
to his name.

597
00:27:16,901 --> 00:27:17,776
And anyway,

598
00:27:19,619 --> 00:27:21,548
Donald Fa got put in jail

599
00:27:22,239 --> 00:27:25,414
because he was in around marijuana being sold,

600
00:27:25,969 --> 00:27:27,239
and he had long hair.

601
00:27:28,926 --> 00:27:31,000
It was a long here. Anyway, at least

602
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,436
he didn't have a man bun. Right? Yeah.

603
00:27:32,914 --> 00:27:35,068
I don't know what he. But all I

604
00:27:35,068 --> 00:27:37,221
can tell you is that it's a good

605
00:27:37,221 --> 00:27:37,721
song

606
00:27:38,593 --> 00:27:40,588
And a lot of people don't like steel

607
00:27:40,588 --> 00:27:43,620
dan. I mean, they... It's just the lyrics

608
00:27:43,620 --> 00:27:44,120
or

609
00:27:44,897 --> 00:27:45,796
q kinda

610
00:27:46,269 --> 00:27:46,769
cryptic,

611
00:27:47,465 --> 00:27:51,395
and they just think the song sounds similar

612
00:27:51,453 --> 00:27:53,367
in this... Let me tell you. I think

613
00:27:53,367 --> 00:27:55,861
they're fantastic music makers

614
00:27:56,411 --> 00:27:59,527
And I think the the music gets better

615
00:28:00,533 --> 00:28:02,832
with every passing year. And these are early

616
00:28:02,832 --> 00:28:03,332
albums

617
00:28:03,799 --> 00:28:06,034
that I've played from. You know, Pretzel logic

618
00:28:06,034 --> 00:28:06,833
was an early album.

619
00:28:08,190 --> 00:28:09,946
So was countdown to x. See. I mean,

620
00:28:10,026 --> 00:28:11,782
you get into these out later albums like

621
00:28:11,941 --> 00:28:12,500
Gal show,

622
00:28:13,475 --> 00:28:14,275
and Asia,

623
00:28:15,394 --> 00:28:15,955
those are...

624
00:28:16,674 --> 00:28:19,734
You're basically into jazz now. I mean, and

625
00:28:21,089 --> 00:28:23,403
these guys are really good. I I don't

626
00:28:23,403 --> 00:28:26,435
know. III tell people, 1 1 week, I

627
00:28:26,435 --> 00:28:28,351
say, start listening to Tommy.

628
00:28:29,003 --> 00:28:30,749
And then now I'm saying... By the who.

629
00:28:31,226 --> 00:28:33,051
Star listening to this sit steel dan.

630
00:28:33,845 --> 00:28:35,512
I feel like on the music part of

631
00:28:35,512 --> 00:28:37,020
it, it's simply my job.

632
00:28:38,149 --> 00:28:40,807
To point out good music from the past

633
00:28:41,266 --> 00:28:43,044
that I can assure you

634
00:28:43,903 --> 00:28:46,240
is not being played in waiting rooms

635
00:28:46,874 --> 00:28:49,742
or at workout gyms or you're not gonna

636
00:28:49,742 --> 00:28:51,915
hear this music on media,

637
00:28:53,486 --> 00:28:56,137
anywhere outside of, say deep cuts on

638
00:28:56,687 --> 00:28:59,949
sirius axiom or something. Because otherwise, you're just

639
00:28:59,949 --> 00:29:01,540
not hearing it. Well, and you've touched on

640
00:29:01,540 --> 00:29:03,074
this before, but they have

641
00:29:03,782 --> 00:29:05,452
used to be a great honor. I guess,

642
00:29:05,532 --> 00:29:08,237
it it always was. But to be asked

643
00:29:08,237 --> 00:29:10,248
to play on an album. That's steel

644
00:29:10,558 --> 00:29:12,144
Dan was producing. I mean, they had some

645
00:29:12,144 --> 00:29:14,785
phenomenal musicians. They had they did nothing, but

646
00:29:15,078 --> 00:29:15,578
interchange

647
00:29:16,743 --> 00:29:19,455
session musicians and they you know, Donald Fa

648
00:29:19,455 --> 00:29:20,803
was sad, we ought to get so and

649
00:29:20,803 --> 00:29:23,183
so on this and song and whatnot, and

650
00:29:23,183 --> 00:29:24,690
they would they would switch it around.

651
00:29:25,499 --> 00:29:28,061
And there were really some good sec... Session

652
00:29:28,116 --> 00:29:30,282
musicians out there. Alright. Let's get to our

653
00:29:30,655 --> 00:29:31,948
topic here since

654
00:29:32,732 --> 00:29:34,265
our half hour

655
00:29:34,877 --> 00:29:36,148
is fleeing away.

656
00:29:37,101 --> 00:29:39,246
Someday you will have to spend your nest

657
00:29:39,246 --> 00:29:39,484
egg.

658
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,027
Why you need to plan ahead for that.

659
00:29:42,519 --> 00:29:44,034
Let me just tell a story.

660
00:29:48,022 --> 00:29:49,298
That pertains to this.

661
00:29:50,335 --> 00:29:51,313
I've had several

662
00:29:53,625 --> 00:29:55,164
typically, this is

663
00:29:55,544 --> 00:29:56,044
elderly

664
00:29:56,504 --> 00:29:57,004
or

665
00:29:57,704 --> 00:29:59,644
women usually that

666
00:30:00,358 --> 00:30:03,291
our clients, many of whom have way more

667
00:30:03,291 --> 00:30:04,187
money than

668
00:30:04,877 --> 00:30:05,669
anybody's got.

669
00:30:07,017 --> 00:30:07,517
And

670
00:30:08,781 --> 00:30:10,557
1 of the reasons that they

671
00:30:11,094 --> 00:30:12,471
have so much money

672
00:30:14,043 --> 00:30:14,543
is

673
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:16,377
because they have this

674
00:30:17,324 --> 00:30:19,092
peculiar your turn of mind

675
00:30:20,813 --> 00:30:21,313
where

676
00:30:21,844 --> 00:30:23,826
whatever's in their investment account,

677
00:30:24,793 --> 00:30:26,932
They kinda pretend like they don't have it,

678
00:30:27,963 --> 00:30:30,737
and whatever's in their checking account, that's how

679
00:30:30,737 --> 00:30:31,846
much money they've got.

680
00:30:32,498 --> 00:30:35,689
And so what happens is you might have

681
00:30:35,689 --> 00:30:37,284
a a lady that's got

682
00:30:38,879 --> 00:30:41,112
a million and a half or 2000000 or

683
00:30:41,112 --> 00:30:41,612
more

684
00:30:42,404 --> 00:30:43,305
in her

685
00:30:45,045 --> 00:30:47,765
investment accounts, including her Ira, and then she's

686
00:30:47,765 --> 00:30:49,045
got 22000

687
00:30:49,045 --> 00:30:49,545
dollars

688
00:30:50,418 --> 00:30:53,310
in her checking account. So she kinda mentally

689
00:30:54,086 --> 00:30:56,080
pretends like that's all the money she's got.

690
00:30:57,835 --> 00:30:59,031
This happens a lot.

691
00:31:00,082 --> 00:31:03,371
And many of those people simply will never

692
00:31:05,101 --> 00:31:07,651
spin their nest. They're not ever going to.

693
00:31:07,890 --> 00:31:10,372
They're gonna die with it in their account.

694
00:31:10,610 --> 00:31:11,666
It's gonna go

695
00:31:12,517 --> 00:31:13,732
to un

696
00:31:14,185 --> 00:31:14,685
heirs

697
00:31:15,218 --> 00:31:16,172
who could, you know,

698
00:31:16,901 --> 00:31:19,126
who who who are not grateful for what

699
00:31:19,126 --> 00:31:20,182
they're being given

700
00:31:21,033 --> 00:31:21,533
because

701
00:31:23,910 --> 00:31:24,410
Granny

702
00:31:24,950 --> 00:31:26,009
or mother

703
00:31:26,950 --> 00:31:28,009
just refused

704
00:31:28,630 --> 00:31:29,750
to spend any money.

705
00:31:30,390 --> 00:31:32,150
I mean, I'm sitting next to 1 now.

706
00:31:32,881 --> 00:31:33,437
Like that.

707
00:31:34,072 --> 00:31:34,469
And

708
00:31:36,693 --> 00:31:37,090
you know,

709
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:39,393
she's shaking her head,

710
00:31:40,678 --> 00:31:43,462
You know your license. Some somebody's gotta gotta

711
00:31:43,462 --> 00:31:45,372
protect the. What are we gonna... What what

712
00:31:45,372 --> 00:31:46,644
what are we gonna do, Honey?

713
00:31:48,652 --> 00:31:50,567
I don't know to which you are a

714
00:31:50,567 --> 00:31:53,679
referring. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Well, even, you say

715
00:31:53,679 --> 00:31:55,195
even though... I mean, there people out there

716
00:31:55,195 --> 00:31:56,726
who have 200000

717
00:31:56,726 --> 00:31:59,515
dollars in their checking account, and they don't

718
00:31:59,515 --> 00:32:01,666
wanna have that number drop below 200000. It's

719
00:32:01,666 --> 00:32:02,384
might as well be 0.

720
00:32:03,674 --> 00:32:06,794
The checking account is the absolutely worst place.

721
00:32:07,434 --> 00:32:09,595
Now if you're gonna keep 200 that... Alright.

722
00:32:10,234 --> 00:32:12,394
Let's assume you don't wanna invest in stocks

723
00:32:12,394 --> 00:32:14,502
in money. I... And that my last

724
00:32:15,274 --> 00:32:17,500
half hour was completely wasted on you.

725
00:32:18,851 --> 00:32:20,600
You didn't wanna listen to it. You're knocked...

726
00:32:20,774 --> 00:32:22,442
Gonna listen. So you're gonna keep money in

727
00:32:22,442 --> 00:32:24,609
cash. At least make sure

728
00:32:25,460 --> 00:32:28,001
it's in a money market fund because right

729
00:32:28,001 --> 00:32:30,089
now, money market funds are paying

730
00:32:30,878 --> 00:32:33,430
on the upper end of 4 percent, almost

731
00:32:33,430 --> 00:32:34,227
5 percent.

732
00:32:35,025 --> 00:32:35,264
You know,

733
00:32:36,300 --> 00:32:38,055
if you're gonna have 200000

734
00:32:38,055 --> 00:32:39,411
bucks sitting around,

735
00:32:40,305 --> 00:32:41,605
earn 10000

736
00:32:41,664 --> 00:32:44,545
dollars on it over the next year. If

737
00:32:44,545 --> 00:32:46,805
that's if rates don't pre precipitation

738
00:32:47,517 --> 00:32:49,186
That was gonna be my next question because

739
00:32:49,186 --> 00:32:51,014
we talk all the time about how people

740
00:32:51,014 --> 00:32:53,080
have hung their hats on money market funds.

741
00:32:54,034 --> 00:32:56,154
And that's not always gonna produce what it's

742
00:32:56,274 --> 00:32:59,459
producing Well We we're we we us another

743
00:32:59,459 --> 00:33:02,167
boat. We had an abe operation in my

744
00:33:02,167 --> 00:33:02,667
opinion

745
00:33:03,122 --> 00:33:06,164
where money market rates basically got down to

746
00:33:06,164 --> 00:33:08,394
0 for an extended period of time. I

747
00:33:08,394 --> 00:33:10,306
don't believe they'll ever be that low again,

748
00:33:10,545 --> 00:33:11,501
not in my career.

749
00:33:12,074 --> 00:33:14,568
Are they gonna stay at 5 percent, probably

750
00:33:14,706 --> 00:33:14,945
not.

751
00:33:15,584 --> 00:33:17,838
I think if you see the Fed genuinely

752
00:33:17,976 --> 00:33:20,369
start cutting interest rates, and some are now

753
00:33:20,369 --> 00:33:21,940
saying it could be as soon as the

754
00:33:22,139 --> 00:33:25,750
August meeting and not the September meeting. But

755
00:33:25,808 --> 00:33:27,882
let's just assume that they do begin to

756
00:33:27,882 --> 00:33:28,121
cut.

757
00:33:28,759 --> 00:33:31,231
You'll see over the next 30 to 60

758
00:33:31,231 --> 00:33:31,731
days

759
00:33:32,601 --> 00:33:35,088
the rate on money market funds decline

760
00:33:35,861 --> 00:33:37,849
about as much as the Fed cut. Right?

761
00:33:38,405 --> 00:33:38,962
Well, I mean,

762
00:33:39,678 --> 00:33:41,450
this article that it was

763
00:33:42,237 --> 00:33:44,624
a financial planner was behind it, So, Mean,

764
00:33:44,783 --> 00:33:47,169
you got a financial planner focus here. But

765
00:33:47,169 --> 00:33:47,726
what he said,

766
00:33:48,442 --> 00:33:50,207
I mean, this this 1 paragraph I thought

767
00:33:50,207 --> 00:33:52,060
was really... What that guy's is saying

768
00:33:52,515 --> 00:33:53,867
if he's a financial planner.

769
00:33:55,220 --> 00:33:56,970
He's trying to get money out of your

770
00:33:56,970 --> 00:33:57,209
estate.

771
00:33:58,338 --> 00:34:00,010
So you don't die with it in your

772
00:34:00,010 --> 00:34:01,864
state. That's part of

773
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,391
what's behind that? Or every part of the...

774
00:34:04,630 --> 00:34:06,914
Your money is you've put thought into

775
00:34:07,752 --> 00:34:10,623
be spent. But he said that some have

776
00:34:10,623 --> 00:34:13,094
accumulated a substantial amount of wealth, which is

777
00:34:13,094 --> 00:34:15,248
your point. I mean, but instead of spending

778
00:34:15,248 --> 00:34:17,489
and enjoying the fruits of their labor, they

779
00:34:17,489 --> 00:34:20,107
remain stuck in an accumulation mindset and continue

780
00:34:20,107 --> 00:34:21,138
to focus on saving.

781
00:34:22,249 --> 00:34:22,487
Okay.

782
00:34:25,284 --> 00:34:26,744
I'm sorry, mister

783
00:34:27,125 --> 00:34:27,844
financial adviser.

784
00:34:29,125 --> 00:34:30,425
That's not gonna change

785
00:34:30,724 --> 00:34:33,045
for a lot of people. They like to

786
00:34:33,045 --> 00:34:33,545
save

787
00:34:34,498 --> 00:34:37,712
But what they can do to mentally sub

788
00:34:40,645 --> 00:34:41,762
their own behavior,

789
00:34:44,174 --> 00:34:47,054
and do what you're suggesting is to shift

790
00:34:47,054 --> 00:34:47,875
some money

791
00:34:48,414 --> 00:34:51,054
from their holdings into areas where it's gonna

792
00:34:51,054 --> 00:34:52,755
be invested in things like

793
00:34:53,067 --> 00:34:53,964
trips or

794
00:34:54,495 --> 00:34:56,186
given money to this or that

795
00:34:57,114 --> 00:35:00,628
and still keep saving from their cash flow

796
00:35:01,414 --> 00:35:03,408
if that what floats their boat,

797
00:35:04,046 --> 00:35:06,918
you can do both. You you just push

798
00:35:06,918 --> 00:35:07,577
some money

799
00:35:08,193 --> 00:35:10,666
from your savings aside into something else.

800
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,320
Then go back to saving again. I mean,

801
00:35:14,679 --> 00:35:16,760
right You don't always have to be saving

802
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,480
with the goal of always having more money.

803
00:35:20,375 --> 00:35:21,275
Because if

804
00:35:22,934 --> 00:35:24,714
if you're still able to save

805
00:35:25,734 --> 00:35:28,474
based on your consistent cash flow, then

806
00:35:28,788 --> 00:35:31,094
You can take some money aside and and

807
00:35:31,094 --> 00:35:32,606
give it or spend it or do whatever

808
00:35:32,606 --> 00:35:33,639
you wanna do with it. Right.

809
00:35:34,355 --> 00:35:36,422
Well, in in his his point, which I

810
00:35:36,422 --> 00:35:38,028
think is good point is people come up

811
00:35:38,028 --> 00:35:40,572
with investment policy statements that they write down.

812
00:35:40,731 --> 00:35:42,559
This is what I'm saving for, etcetera.

813
00:35:43,115 --> 00:35:44,546
You can do the same thing and come

814
00:35:44,546 --> 00:35:46,946
up with a spending policy where You take

815
00:35:46,946 --> 00:35:48,457
a look at how much am I going

816
00:35:48,457 --> 00:35:50,445
to need? Have accumulated this much of nest

817
00:35:50,445 --> 00:35:50,604
egg,

818
00:35:51,717 --> 00:35:53,944
how much can I safely take out each

819
00:35:53,944 --> 00:35:55,932
year without fear of running out of money?

820
00:35:56,744 --> 00:35:58,664
Oh, well, that's not enough well, then I

821
00:35:58,664 --> 00:36:00,105
know it now before it's too late, and

822
00:36:00,184 --> 00:36:01,545
I can go get a part time job

823
00:36:01,545 --> 00:36:03,704
and only take take less out. So being,

824
00:36:03,864 --> 00:36:05,625
it's just putting some thought into how you're

825
00:36:05,625 --> 00:36:06,159
spending the money

826
00:36:06,918 --> 00:36:08,514
1 thing I thought he he had a

827
00:36:08,514 --> 00:36:09,732
good suggestion was

828
00:36:10,189 --> 00:36:13,062
make your bucket list, but put your deadline

829
00:36:13,062 --> 00:36:14,908
to put a deadline on on some of

830
00:36:14,908 --> 00:36:16,892
these some of these items on your bucket

831
00:36:16,892 --> 00:36:19,114
list because you don't wanna find yourself saving

832
00:36:19,114 --> 00:36:20,543
up, and I'm gonna do it 1 day,

833
00:36:20,702 --> 00:36:21,360
and then

834
00:36:21,750 --> 00:36:23,349
you get too old to enjoy or you

835
00:36:23,349 --> 00:36:25,429
have health episode and you can't do what

836
00:36:25,429 --> 00:36:27,349
you had wanted to do. So just... I

837
00:36:27,349 --> 00:36:29,269
mean, just... It's really about coming up with

838
00:36:29,269 --> 00:36:29,670
a

839
00:36:30,564 --> 00:36:32,399
thoughtful way of of how you're going to

840
00:36:32,399 --> 00:36:35,111
spend your money, But it also that that

841
00:36:35,111 --> 00:36:36,308
deadline what it does is it gives you

842
00:36:36,308 --> 00:36:37,367
a trigger to

843
00:36:37,839 --> 00:36:39,354
realize, hey, you can't take it with you.

844
00:36:39,594 --> 00:36:40,630
Let's go ahead and enjoy some of this.

845
00:36:41,588 --> 00:36:42,088
Absolutely

846
00:36:43,581 --> 00:36:44,720
that's absolutely

847
00:36:45,097 --> 00:36:46,873
right. Right. Because

848
00:36:49,893 --> 00:36:52,121
Spending money is a funny thing for people.

849
00:36:53,554 --> 00:36:55,088
I I'm gonna tell you something

850
00:36:55,558 --> 00:36:57,705
that I have noticed. I'm gonna call it

851
00:36:57,705 --> 00:36:58,443
the Naples

852
00:36:58,818 --> 00:36:59,136
effect.

853
00:37:00,885 --> 00:37:02,952
So you have people that say live in

854
00:37:02,952 --> 00:37:04,167
places like Lexington

855
00:37:05,353 --> 00:37:06,492
maybe Pittsburgh,

856
00:37:06,869 --> 00:37:07,369
maybe

857
00:37:08,147 --> 00:37:09,105
maybe Saint Louis.

858
00:37:10,302 --> 00:37:13,469
And they they live in houses that

859
00:37:14,383 --> 00:37:15,177
are nice,

860
00:37:16,289 --> 00:37:17,584
but they're not os

861
00:37:18,514 --> 00:37:19,014
because

862
00:37:19,705 --> 00:37:22,747
in their hometown, they don't wanna be regarded

863
00:37:24,250 --> 00:37:25,046
as being

864
00:37:26,399 --> 00:37:26,899
os

865
00:37:27,354 --> 00:37:27,991
type people.

866
00:37:29,424 --> 00:37:30,777
Then they go down to Naples,

867
00:37:31,509 --> 00:37:34,634
or somewhere like that. And this other side

868
00:37:35,963 --> 00:37:37,735
of their nature comes out

869
00:37:38,523 --> 00:37:41,410
and they they spend that money down there

870
00:37:42,262 --> 00:37:44,887
because they're not in their hometown anymore,

871
00:37:45,538 --> 00:37:47,682
now they're in sort of a town of

872
00:37:47,682 --> 00:37:48,182
strangers,

873
00:37:48,953 --> 00:37:49,453
but

874
00:37:50,065 --> 00:37:51,677
everybody's kind of in a contest

875
00:37:52,448 --> 00:37:54,195
to see who looks the richest.

876
00:37:55,164 --> 00:37:57,344
And so therefore, they spend money

877
00:37:57,885 --> 00:38:00,605
down in Florida somewhere that they would never

878
00:38:00,605 --> 00:38:01,105
spend

879
00:38:01,405 --> 00:38:02,785
in Lexington in Kentucky

880
00:38:04,053 --> 00:38:06,302
because they don't wanna look like os

881
00:38:06,755 --> 00:38:07,391
big spend.

882
00:38:08,027 --> 00:38:09,140
They get down to Florida,

883
00:38:09,935 --> 00:38:11,922
they don't give a rats ass, You know,

884
00:38:12,811 --> 00:38:14,479
I don't care what this person thinks up

885
00:38:14,479 --> 00:38:16,147
me or doesn't think of me. In fact,

886
00:38:16,465 --> 00:38:18,848
I would... And so the the whole personality

887
00:38:18,848 --> 00:38:21,572
changes. So you will see sometimes

888
00:38:22,599 --> 00:38:25,019
that occur. And people will go

889
00:38:25,799 --> 00:38:28,280
places and spend all kinds of money they

890
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:29,400
would never spend at home.

891
00:38:30,847 --> 00:38:31,959
And in that case, they've

892
00:38:33,547 --> 00:38:35,295
you, they they have their bucket list. It's

893
00:38:35,295 --> 00:38:36,725
to go blow a bunch of money to

894
00:38:36,725 --> 00:38:38,870
do. And and they go blow money and

895
00:38:38,870 --> 00:38:40,632
they're succeeding. Yeah. I mean,

896
00:38:41,427 --> 00:38:43,731
there's... Well, I'm not gonna get into stories

897
00:38:43,731 --> 00:38:44,128
of that.

898
00:38:45,001 --> 00:38:45,501
But

899
00:38:46,273 --> 00:38:47,567
I would say that

900
00:38:48,355 --> 00:38:49,735
you don't wanna be

901
00:38:53,715 --> 00:38:56,195
stupid about how you do this. You should

902
00:38:56,195 --> 00:38:57,574
think about it and

903
00:38:57,888 --> 00:38:58,705
and be

904
00:39:01,141 --> 00:39:01,641
measured

905
00:39:02,172 --> 00:39:05,187
about it. Remember that everything you buy and

906
00:39:05,187 --> 00:39:05,687
keep

907
00:39:06,873 --> 00:39:08,871
is going to go to somebody else.

908
00:39:10,230 --> 00:39:12,867
If you buy an experience like a trip

909
00:39:12,867 --> 00:39:14,485
or go somewhere that's

910
00:39:14,878 --> 00:39:17,344
that's gonna be something that you remember. It's

911
00:39:17,344 --> 00:39:18,083
more personal,

912
00:39:20,128 --> 00:39:21,264
but items

913
00:39:22,212 --> 00:39:24,602
will ultimately go to somebody else, and then

914
00:39:24,602 --> 00:39:26,514
they'll have to deal with it. 1 of

915
00:39:26,514 --> 00:39:28,847
the big things right now we're seeing

916
00:39:29,715 --> 00:39:31,169
is antique furniture

917
00:39:31,941 --> 00:39:32,441
that

918
00:39:34,247 --> 00:39:36,076
perhaps a parent or a grandparent,

919
00:39:37,364 --> 00:39:40,813
bought or had and inherited, and it was

920
00:39:41,430 --> 00:39:43,582
considered that it was gonna be passed along

921
00:39:43,582 --> 00:39:45,655
through the family at in item.

922
00:39:46,308 --> 00:39:48,324
Well, what they're finding is that

923
00:39:48,860 --> 00:39:51,514
number 1, that stuff isn't worth near

924
00:39:52,450 --> 00:39:55,401
what it was worth, maybe 25, 30 years

925
00:39:55,401 --> 00:39:55,561
ago,

926
00:39:56,451 --> 00:39:57,508
because the market

927
00:39:58,043 --> 00:40:01,088
for it is not there because younger people

928
00:40:01,384 --> 00:40:03,612
are not interested in it. Just like they're

929
00:40:03,612 --> 00:40:06,724
not interested in history. They're not interested in

930
00:40:06,724 --> 00:40:09,817
in antique. According to an antique dealer that

931
00:40:09,975 --> 00:40:12,458
I spoke with last week, they are coming

932
00:40:12,592 --> 00:40:14,990
back. Yeah. But it... It's probably not gonna

933
00:40:14,990 --> 00:40:18,088
be in... That's like saying top insiders are

934
00:40:18,088 --> 00:40:18,644
coming back.

935
00:40:19,279 --> 00:40:21,050
Sure they are. 8

936
00:40:21,598 --> 00:40:23,430
When did they ever go out? I had

937
00:40:23,430 --> 00:40:25,501
a conversation with an antique dealer about 2

938
00:40:25,501 --> 00:40:27,093
weeks ago and he said, no. They're not.

939
00:40:27,253 --> 00:40:29,323
He said Chinese antique are are really hot.

940
00:40:29,562 --> 00:40:30,062
But

941
00:40:30,533 --> 00:40:32,206
but that's just the difference of the pit.

942
00:40:33,481 --> 00:40:34,995
Dealer add something want to sell to you.

943
00:40:35,314 --> 00:40:37,465
I don't know. I'm not buying. Yep. Yeah.

944
00:40:37,799 --> 00:40:39,632
That's the thing Nobody is buying. The The

945
00:40:39,632 --> 00:40:40,371
thing is

946
00:40:41,146 --> 00:40:44,651
it's not gonna come back probably in the

947
00:40:44,651 --> 00:40:46,085
way it did before.

948
00:40:46,723 --> 00:40:47,223
And

949
00:40:48,091 --> 00:40:50,556
people's tastes change, You know, down in Atlanta.

950
00:40:50,715 --> 00:40:51,533
They take

951
00:40:52,067 --> 00:40:53,021
old antique.

952
00:40:53,657 --> 00:40:55,270
They strip all the

953
00:40:56,852 --> 00:40:59,077
outer lack... It used to be so taboo

954
00:40:59,077 --> 00:41:01,064
if you stripped it. And kill the value

955
00:41:01,064 --> 00:41:02,812
of the. And they... And it turned, and

956
00:41:02,812 --> 00:41:03,845
then they pickle it.

957
00:41:04,893 --> 00:41:07,831
And people in buck or wherever we're just

958
00:41:07,831 --> 00:41:09,418
eat it up. They think that's the greatest

959
00:41:09,418 --> 00:41:11,165
thing in the world. And to me, you're

960
00:41:11,165 --> 00:41:13,388
just showing your ass. And the decor marks

961
00:41:13,388 --> 00:41:15,391
it up, 30 percent Yeah top it. Yeah.

962
00:41:15,550 --> 00:41:17,460
Of course. Then you're still paying less for

963
00:41:17,460 --> 00:41:18,893
that than you are for a new piece

964
00:41:18,893 --> 00:41:20,404
of brand new furniture at some of these

965
00:41:20,404 --> 00:41:22,177
places. Well, some of the less

966
00:41:23,364 --> 00:41:25,439
people There there's a... There... Here's another thing.

967
00:41:25,598 --> 00:41:27,513
We got way off the truth. No. We're

968
00:41:27,513 --> 00:41:29,029
not. And this is about spending.

969
00:41:29,907 --> 00:41:32,075
It's about what people do with money. That's

970
00:41:32,075 --> 00:41:34,385
another thing. You walk into that place in

971
00:41:34,625 --> 00:41:35,023
Atlanta,

972
00:41:36,696 --> 00:41:37,196
the

973
00:41:37,972 --> 00:41:40,313
what's it what's that restaurant we eat in

974
00:41:41,161 --> 00:41:41,899
okay cafe

975
00:41:42,271 --> 00:41:44,096
is in the front of it. And in

976
00:41:44,096 --> 00:41:46,158
the back of it, there's a furniture place.

977
00:41:46,729 --> 00:41:48,802
And 1 of them is is that hickory

978
00:41:48,802 --> 00:41:49,302
chair

979
00:41:49,679 --> 00:41:50,157
back there.

980
00:41:50,954 --> 00:41:53,425
And they've got stuff like a little hut

981
00:41:53,425 --> 00:41:53,983
like that.

982
00:41:55,273 --> 00:41:58,141
That's about that size over there for 13000

983
00:41:58,141 --> 00:42:01,248
dollars. Right? And it's new. It's not antique.

984
00:42:02,297 --> 00:42:04,442
But somebody's gonna buy that because it came

985
00:42:04,442 --> 00:42:07,063
from that store, and it costs that much,

986
00:42:07,380 --> 00:42:08,810
and they're gonna put it in their house

987
00:42:08,810 --> 00:42:09,548
in buck

988
00:42:09,922 --> 00:42:11,193
and be so proud of it.

989
00:42:11,923 --> 00:42:14,469
But... And that's not a 13000 dollar piece

990
00:42:14,469 --> 00:42:16,378
of furniture. Beauty is in the eye the

991
00:42:16,378 --> 00:42:17,333
behold. Well, okay.

992
00:42:18,527 --> 00:42:21,328
If it makes them happy and they aren't

993
00:42:21,328 --> 00:42:23,083
spending money that they need later on to

994
00:42:23,083 --> 00:42:24,998
take care of their needs. Then and it's

995
00:42:24,998 --> 00:42:27,870
all they've. Made some nice profits for the

996
00:42:27,870 --> 00:42:31,002
seller. That's. Now it's now it is subjective.

997
00:42:31,242 --> 00:42:34,039
And and that's exactly what you're getting down

998
00:42:34,039 --> 00:42:36,516
to what's pretty in the eye of the

999
00:42:36,516 --> 00:42:38,527
behold. You look at a boat. A boat

1000
00:42:38,527 --> 00:42:41,547
is an absolute non essential expense. A horse.

1001
00:42:41,866 --> 00:42:42,842
You go non

1002
00:42:44,092 --> 00:42:44,409
maybe.

1003
00:42:44,966 --> 00:42:47,374
But but but the the thing is

1004
00:42:47,921 --> 00:42:49,770
I look... Oh, you go down to Jupiter

1005
00:42:49,826 --> 00:42:51,119
and look at the boats

1006
00:42:51,571 --> 00:42:52,047
out there.

1007
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,141
Did people need these boats? Of course, they

1008
00:42:55,141 --> 00:42:55,697
don't need them.

1009
00:42:56,426 --> 00:42:58,013
You go down there Memorial day.

1010
00:42:58,727 --> 00:43:00,077
Look how many of them are sitting in

1011
00:43:00,077 --> 00:43:00,711
the slip.

1012
00:43:01,505 --> 00:43:03,727
I remember in Houston 1 time driving down

1013
00:43:03,727 --> 00:43:04,362
to Gal.

1014
00:43:04,854 --> 00:43:07,327
Past this big yacht basin. Memorial day weekend.

1015
00:43:08,124 --> 00:43:09,879
90 percent of the boats were sitting in

1016
00:43:09,879 --> 00:43:11,953
the slip. Nobody was using. And we're not...

1017
00:43:12,192 --> 00:43:14,639
These boats that we're talking about are not

1018
00:43:14,759 --> 00:43:17,006
little run about. No. I mean they are

1019
00:43:17,300 --> 00:43:20,319
task the familiar 7 800 bonnie carlo. Right?

1020
00:43:20,557 --> 00:43:22,623
Yeah. Well, in on that. I mean, the

1021
00:43:22,623 --> 00:43:24,625
the thing I think as important is people

1022
00:43:24,625 --> 00:43:27,192
just don't put enough effort or time into

1023
00:43:27,726 --> 00:43:29,633
planning for how they're going to spend how

1024
00:43:29,633 --> 00:43:30,928
the accumulation

1025
00:43:31,317 --> 00:43:33,459
And sometimes, you just want a second opinion

1026
00:43:33,459 --> 00:43:35,839
where somebody takes a look at your plan

1027
00:43:35,839 --> 00:43:38,114
and helps you vet it and says you're

1028
00:43:38,234 --> 00:43:39,429
you're good to go with this. This is

1029
00:43:39,429 --> 00:43:41,101
going to help you. And, I mean, that's

1030
00:43:41,101 --> 00:43:43,092
says service we provide. I mean, I I

1031
00:43:43,092 --> 00:43:44,446
don't know how many people we meet with

1032
00:43:44,446 --> 00:43:47,017
where we're talking about exactly that topic. And

1033
00:43:47,169 --> 00:43:48,764
what they leave with is peace of mind.

1034
00:43:48,924 --> 00:43:50,440
They, hey, I'm gonna be okay or at

1035
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:52,274
least I have a plan that's gonna allow

1036
00:43:52,274 --> 00:43:53,789
me to be okay. Well, the plan is

1037
00:43:53,789 --> 00:43:56,523
the key part. Right. It's knowing where your

1038
00:43:57,154 --> 00:43:58,268
and where you need to go.

1039
00:43:59,222 --> 00:43:59,722
And

1040
00:44:00,575 --> 00:44:01,689
knowledge is power.

1041
00:44:02,166 --> 00:44:04,394
There's no other way. If if you know

1042
00:44:04,394 --> 00:44:05,508
what you gotta do,

1043
00:44:06,319 --> 00:44:08,393
it's much easier to the right knowledge.

1044
00:44:09,032 --> 00:44:10,968
That's right. And that's where we come in

1045
00:44:11,425 --> 00:44:12,702
at pre Financial Group.

1046
00:44:13,994 --> 00:44:17,194
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1047
00:44:17,194 --> 00:44:17,514
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1048
00:44:18,234 --> 00:44:20,234
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1049
00:44:20,234 --> 00:44:22,809
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1050
00:44:22,809 --> 00:44:23,609
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1051
00:44:24,969 --> 00:44:25,469
Our

1052
00:44:25,769 --> 00:44:27,869
our portfolio reviews are complimentary,

1053
00:44:29,139 --> 00:44:31,199
and we don't try to ever sell you

1054
00:44:31,199 --> 00:44:31,674
anything.

1055
00:44:33,417 --> 00:44:35,318
If you don't want it, you don't have

1056
00:44:35,318 --> 00:44:36,684
to take it. I mean, we we're gonna

1057
00:44:36,684 --> 00:44:38,036
give you what we think is the right

1058
00:44:38,036 --> 00:44:40,978
advice for you the right plan and we

1059
00:44:40,978 --> 00:44:42,489
want the buy in because if you're buying...

1060
00:44:42,728 --> 00:44:44,159
If you're bought into it, then you're gonna

1061
00:44:44,159 --> 00:44:45,590
stick with it, so we could actually work.

1062
00:44:45,845 --> 00:44:47,765
For you over time. Yeah, and our goal

1063
00:44:47,765 --> 00:44:49,684
is to educate God and empower.

1064
00:44:50,724 --> 00:44:52,724
Thank you for listening to the financial hour.