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we have

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little meeting, our group, Russian speaking missionaries

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with president Author

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Yes. A hostile,

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o and he... I remember he looked it

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into my eyes and said, like,

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should, like, study English, learn English, and I

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thought, maybe it's, you know, for everyone.

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Advice.

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And... So president Oak tells you to learn

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english on your mission. I know.

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Hey welcome everybody to this week in Mormons

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the Twin Siblings, Matt and Melissa, we're here

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for an interview. How are you doing Melissa?

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Oh, I'm doing great. I'm really excited to

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have another interview,

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this is a guest that I think is

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gonna be really interesting.

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And is also very close to your heart.

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So, yeah, When don't you go ahead and

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introduce for us.

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Yeah. So, listeners who... If you've been listening

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to the interviews, you know that we have

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people from all different backgrounds, all different walks

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of life.

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Recently, we had Sa on. She was a

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Palestinian,

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and she helped us understand a lot more

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about Palestine and the things that her perspective

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of things were her culture and her life.

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And so I have a good friend. Her

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name is Marsha Ba.

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actually, I taught her when I was a

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missionary.

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And so she's joining us today. Marsha, you

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wanna go ahead and tell us a little

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bit about yourself?

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Oh, I sure. No. My name is Masha.

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Magnet. I'm,

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I serve my mission in Russia, S saint

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Peter petersburg.

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And I had a small flower business,

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merit,

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raising 3 kids through children movie.

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I moved

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from war in 2014

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to United States of America

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Toyota.

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I work at school as

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nutrition assistant

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or like... Like at the at the elementary

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school. Right? And at elementary school. Yeah. It's

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all my kids in this school. Yeah. U.

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I work

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as a part time job

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for chores, in a department of translation

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like, voice acting for

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Ukrainian language,

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and at church, I serve as the young

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woman president in Russian speaking branch in Salt

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lake stake.

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There are a number of things I wanna

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ask you about, Masha. So I'll just start

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asking some bio geographical questions,

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and then, I'm sure my melissa will jump

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in and kinda ask some more questions.

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the first thing I think where I wanna

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so in the year 2010,

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my son Max and I, we went back

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to Ukraine because we adopted Max from Ukraine.

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of temple was about to be dedicated.

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your family. You were living in Done get

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the time. And as I recall, you had

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a flowers stand. You were like, the small

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business owner in

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Gone Ukraine. Can you tell us a little

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bit about, like, how that

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how that came to be? I love flowers

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and creativity,

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and, we were in, like, involved in office

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landscape and flower decorations both retail and

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most it's, like, weight advance, like, weight arrangements.

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honest.

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I... It's not like how it looks like

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because it's perishable boots, and,

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but most difficult things for me was, like,

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all this taxes fines,

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states, like,

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it's have to kinda like know the right

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people in order to succeed?

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have connections to have better price

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avoid extra taxes,

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you know, just... Mh. So so in my

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recollection,

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the church of Jesus Christ of latter day

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saints took

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had a strong foothold in Don,

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and there were like, church buildings all over

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the city of Done.

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own church building, and it just seemed to

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me, and then the temple was being dedicated

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in Kiev, and it seemed to me like,

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this was as good as it could get.

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future. Like, hey, like, Ukraine has arrived, and

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things are just gonna get better and better

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you or was that just maybe my perception?

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this is when I start my fellowship and

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this is when I returned from my mission.

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And I not not that

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Ukraine blossom, even more, like, economically,

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you know, It's like, lots of new buildings

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well be over the people.

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more charge buildings

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like built in The

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it was placed especially for youth, but seems

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that with prosperity,

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a moment also came

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when church members became inactive.

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I feel like short growth in our region

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So do you think that it was just

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Done yes because that it was like that

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where the mission work started to slow down?

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Or do you think happen in other places

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Whole Ukraine. Last mission president compare and log

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went out on their way to inquire church

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members to do mission work.

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felt that they put extra offer effort

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concerned

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concern for the church in our region. But

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you can freely go to church

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big base.

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So I think that there are a lot

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of people who listen to this podcast that

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have no idea what's the difference of Ukraine

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and Russia. Like, you grew up in Ukraine,

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but you spoke Russian,

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and you served a mission in Russia.

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Help well, help me understand, like, how is

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different from Russia? Like, is going from Ukraine

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to Russia

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the same as going from, like,

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Utah to Las Vegas, where there's, like, the

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same culture, the same people. Is there something

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different between being Ukrainian

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and being Russian.

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Even if I speak russian, and I remember

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I wanna speak Ukrainian, and I wanna go

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to Ukrainian school, but it was like a

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privilege.

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It was more Russian schools than Ukrainian falls.

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Like, in other part of Ukraine, it was

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an African Ukrainian school in our part of

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Ukraine not an ukrainian schools.

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And I love my culture. We still, like,

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do, like, college or start, you know, just

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wear clothes sometimes, like, something sing songs.

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Like... But it was years when

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propaganda and everything. We doesn't think back days

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about this. Try to pull, can't torture out

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of

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the people like, people lives and everything. But,

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like, yeah. Like, folks. They have

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own traditions and

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language and,

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writers,

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music,

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land, even, like, dirt different, like, in Ukraine,

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This is the best children's. I don't know

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what to say this Is the best dirt

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in the oil. Soil. Like soil. Yeah.

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Like, I remember, like, all, like, windows information

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in Russia, that's all, like, products from Ukraine

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was in their stores because, like, we was,

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like... The best food. We haven't you grow

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the fast process. Maybe there's for

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all juices from Ukraine, all vegetables fruits was

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from Ukraine,

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grains, like everything was in

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another store, and I'm just like, oh.

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I was so proud. I didn't know before

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I start to admission there this I'm so

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proud to be premium.

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Because we just leave

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you know what doesn't. Oh, I think we

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have better back. I have better bed.

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But. Yeah. This, I remember this deal. So

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even boris. Right? People think of Boris this

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traditional Russian soup. Isn't there even a difference

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in Ukrainian? 17 the same, I think they

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new this is supreme in Dish. They have

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she. It's different.

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So Bo is a Ukrainian soup. It's not

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a Russian soup. They like,

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like, you have here in United States so

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many taco places, but it doesn't mean it's

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like American dish,

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but, like, you know, probably more places than

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in Mexico.

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We have lots of our own dishes. And

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because Ukraine, this is the land where we

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grow all this products. We can use this

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first,

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and it's cheap for us and

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accessible, and I remember, like, I don't know.

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I don't wanna say, you know, bad things

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about...

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Russia. Well.

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Yeah. About... Because I know some good people.

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Even more, like, go, Still go in and

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I support your thing

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every day

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with every

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being what They can.

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Yeah. Money prayers.

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But I imagine it must tear your heart

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a little bit because

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you served a mission, and I know that

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Matt has a left for the Ukrainian people

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because that's where he served his mission. And

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so it must tear your heart a little

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bit. They you serve those russian people and

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came to love them, and, yeah, you still

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have this, you know, conflict going on between

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I surf in 2006

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when Ukrainians were well,

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risk

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well received in Russia out through. I'm you...

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I'm from Ukraine, and I

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from this region where people speak russian, but

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they still can hear my accent.

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By the way,

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split a story like always. Yeah. When I

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was in a mission in a mission school

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an Mt here in pro.

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We have

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little meeting, our group, Russian speaking missionaries

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with president Author.

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Yes.

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Hostile

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O, and he... I remember he looked it

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into my eyes and said, like,

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you

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should, like, study English, learn English, and I

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thought, maybe it's, you know, for everyone

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advice.

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And... So president Oak tells you to learn

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english on your mission. I know.

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I know. Yeah.

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You have because you're really good at speaking

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English?

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I'm not. I have to repent and start

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our name.

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Yeah. I love my mission. We pressed the

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gospel of Jesus Christ offering people

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repentance through the baptism, and we talk about

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plan of salvation about restore church of Jesus

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Christ.

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After 2014,

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church members were were divided in opinion,

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some begin to support the invasion and

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a annexation of Ukraine

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and annexation. This is right.

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And... Yeah. Annexation of Ukraine. So. Yeah. Russia

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says that

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Ukraine is a part of Russia, and they're

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gonna take that territory back into their country.

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So that The word for that is annexation.

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Yes.

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This is what I mean. It was difficult

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for me to accept it. Like, it was

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so difficult

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I tried to prove this.

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That this is not correct, but it's hard

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to convince people.

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Everybody have their own, like, background,

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knowledge

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resource where they're... I don't know. Just like,

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Just... Yeah.

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Possible.

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We have the same problem in the United

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States. Maybe not to the same degree, But

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there are people that love love love Joe

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Biden, and there are people that love love

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Love Donald Trump, and it's very hard to

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convince them 1 way or the other.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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It's the same.

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The problem

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that these church members leaving in the

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territories were also divided.

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Some supported the

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regime believe in the propaganda, Russia Tv was

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not banned on the territory of Ukraine.

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And it seems to me that they were

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also bright, maybe by the like seller payment,

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pay pension that

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Russia prep

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promised them

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if they received russian passport, you know?

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Yeah. And now, maybe Bribe wouldn't be the

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best word in English, but it would be,

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like, they were promised

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that if they became part of Russia, then

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pension or in the United States, we'd call,

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like, your social security payments, They were... They

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thought, oh, we're gonna get higher payments from

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our pension from the government. Yeah. And and

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a Russian passport is gonna allow me to

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travel more places and give me benefits. And

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so so there were Ukrainians that were thinking,

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oh, I really want the benefits that come

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from a Russian passport

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whereas as other people were like, no. We

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wanna be our own country. We don't want

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that.

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Yeah. It was

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what you... How you said, like, simple, sometimes

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just like, oh, what the benefits we can

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get from this?

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So Masha...

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So from 20... So your mom goes to

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kiev, did your dad go to key with

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your mom?

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No. Because like, we cannot move Grandma because

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she was, like... She was I was saying

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yeah. And we were saying in English that

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she was aging So So for how many

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years

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is your dad living in a different part

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of the country than your mom.

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And and you they could not see your...

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Their grandchildren at all. Right? Because you're in

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the United States, they can't come to the

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United States even to visit.

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So for how many years is this, that

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the whole family just split up like this.

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I don't know. Like, I think 10 years.

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Yeah. Crazy. Right. So

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and your grandmother had a home. Right? I

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I remember your dad telling me this, your

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grandmother had a really nice house,

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but because of the invasion with

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because Rush invaded,

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hit... Your dad was not ever able to

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sell the house to anybody. Right? Yeah. Yeah.

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But hey I think you said he gave

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it away to a family for, like, a

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dollar or something like that? It was so,

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like, just, like, symbolically, like, 1000 or something

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like this. Like, like, cities that just were,

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like, for papers, you know, maybe you have

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lots of kids, and he said this is

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good. Good place for them, Building.

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I think they still there.

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Flat. Got like, still Yeah. Because he's from

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Ukraine and he's back from saint People petersburg,

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and they just hide in in this house.

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I don't know. If it's still

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everything find it. Really doesn't know. You know.

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So what what happened to all the church

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buildings that were there. The... Our church buildings

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that weren't in Don.

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I remember how alarm I was

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that 1 evening all missionaries from our region

416
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left. In 1 a night

417
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literally.

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Missionaries said that they received a call from

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their,

420
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like,

421
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stake area presidency.

422
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And... Yeah. But before state presidents

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area presidents got called from first president. See

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about emergency move to another part of Ukraine.

425
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There were missionaries in our house that last

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evening.

427
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Sis house mission. Yeah. I know. Did... And

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they did not know that they were gonna

429
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be leaving the next day? Oh, no.

430
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They

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parking

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through the night in in the morning.

433
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Yeah. It was, like, really

434
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strange

435
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situation, like,

436
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so We we had somebody on our podcast

437
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that during Covid, they had something similar happen

438
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in the Philippines. They'd like suddenly, like, overnight

439
00:17:02,232 --> 00:17:04,618
told all the missionaries, you're leaving, you're going

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home because of Covid.

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And

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But this is different. Right? This isn't because

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of Covid. This is, like...

444
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Because I would imagine there were people questioning,

445
00:17:13,717 --> 00:17:16,429
like, is Russia really invading? Is it really

446
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gonna be scary? Like, people don't know what

447
00:17:19,070 --> 00:17:21,294
to expect. So then I would imagine when

448
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the missionaries suddenly leaves, does that send you

449
00:17:23,121 --> 00:17:25,027
some signal like, oh, things must be worse

450
00:17:25,027 --> 00:17:25,663
than we thought?

451
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Yeah. This is for me signal, and I

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before, like, have this, like, comfortable feelings that

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something...

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Doesn't goes

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right, you know,

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and

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this is was just 1 more,

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sign.

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Actually, I met this sister here in Utah.

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She can you imagine and she came to

461
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my apartment company. She knocked in my door,

462
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and she opened the door and they started

463
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to say something talk about something and I

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don't understand. But, like, I just remember her

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face and I'm just like, I know you.

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And she just, like, a surf mission in

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Ukraine, but I used to, like, she finished

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in her mission in Utah.

469
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And with met, we start cry

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and she said, like, oh I know. This

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is, like,

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heavenly the father taken can care about us

473
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as a missionaries, he will take care about

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you this is, like, it was

475
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such a...

476
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That's so cool. We... So this is... She's

477
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come home from her mission. And she's in

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Utah. And then your family had moved to

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Utah, and then you just bump into each

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other in Utah. Yes. Yes. This is how

481
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is Well, what about the people that stay

482
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like in in Ukraine. Right? Was... It's scary

483
00:18:35,721 --> 00:18:36,119
for them?

484
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Yeah. Soon after missionaries was allocated,

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armed people

486
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burst into the 1 of the church built

487
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in

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and asked to where we kept Americans weapons.

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They laid the church members on the floor,

490
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the occasions were that we were American spice.

491
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So so the Russians come into church, They

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think that you guys are all American spies

493
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hiding American weapon somewhere. Yeah. And they just

494
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they came in with guns. Do a church

495
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meeting. Yes. Oh, wow. Yes. Yes... Church leaders

496
00:19:09,550 --> 00:19:12,039
announced that we would no longer meet

497
00:19:13,070 --> 00:19:16,670
other churches, no non orthodox also stop meetings.

498
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Church members,

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some was interrogated.

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Pastors of other churches too, and

501
00:19:24,275 --> 00:19:25,493
some of them was

502
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in... They put them in prison.

503
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After this gathering was prohibited up to this

504
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day. So there are no more church meetings

505
00:19:33,850 --> 00:19:34,589
in Done?

506
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No.

507
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Then you... So Guns and The So the

508
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the Russian orthodox... Oh, okay. So the Russian

509
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Orthodox church is allowed to keep having meetings.

510
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But leaders of any other, like, protestant church.

511
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They're, like, they're

512
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suspicious of them that they think they're paying

513
00:19:53,182 --> 00:19:54,373
kind of ambitious. Yeah.

514
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And such a protect church members, they just

515
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stop having church meetings altogether. Yes. Correct. So

516
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your friends that,

517
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stave in Don.

518
00:20:05,308 --> 00:20:06,904
They just have never gone back to church.

519
00:20:07,064 --> 00:20:08,740
There's just no more church to go to?

520
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Yes.

521
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Church buildings

522
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was confiscated.

523
00:20:14,502 --> 00:20:17,135
Wow. Yeah. When I was there in 2010,

524
00:20:17,694 --> 00:20:19,369
every place I had served as a missionary,

525
00:20:19,529 --> 00:20:21,696
there was a church building there. The church

526
00:20:21,696 --> 00:20:24,874
was building churches all throughout Don, all throughout

527
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that whole region. And so what happened to

528
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those church buildings?

529
00:20:29,180 --> 00:20:30,714
They all confiscated

530
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by the

531
00:20:32,441 --> 00:20:35,941
regime. New regime. Yeah. With these people came

532
00:20:35,941 --> 00:20:38,209
and said, like, bring documents

533
00:20:38,588 --> 00:20:39,626
and go away.

534
00:20:41,145 --> 00:20:43,882
And even through this happens like this

535
00:20:44,421 --> 00:20:45,220
persecution happens,

536
00:20:46,189 --> 00:20:47,403
some church members

537
00:20:47,777 --> 00:20:51,986
like still justified all this persecution and supported

538
00:20:51,986 --> 00:20:53,256
this regime can you imagine?

539
00:20:53,749 --> 00:20:53,908
Yeah.

540
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So... Yeah. Just to I just to clarify.

541
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So... Because Melissa doesn't understand the geography as

542
00:20:59,653 --> 00:21:02,062
well as as I might... This stuff is

543
00:21:02,062 --> 00:21:05,435
happening in done yet in the far eastern

544
00:21:05,653 --> 00:21:08,605
part of Ukraine, and it starts in 2014.

545
00:21:08,939 --> 00:21:11,017
But it doesn't spread to the other parts

546
00:21:11,017 --> 00:21:13,813
of the country yet. That that stuff happens

547
00:21:13,813 --> 00:21:15,011
in 2022.

548
00:21:15,251 --> 00:21:17,421
So this is like... That 8 year period

549
00:21:17,421 --> 00:21:19,417
of time, when most people don't even really

550
00:21:19,417 --> 00:21:21,752
know that there's anything going on, Russians

551
00:21:22,130 --> 00:21:22,949
were separatists

552
00:21:23,487 --> 00:21:24,125
in Ukraine,

553
00:21:24,699 --> 00:21:26,689
are doing these sorts of things to their

554
00:21:26,689 --> 00:21:29,156
to Ukrainians in your home city.

555
00:21:29,793 --> 00:21:32,913
Yeah. I remember 1 more more... Like... Thinking

556
00:21:32,913 --> 00:21:35,383
but I, you know, when it just starts,

557
00:21:35,542 --> 00:21:37,136
and I see in with my kids on

558
00:21:37,136 --> 00:21:40,027
the playground, and some guys would have equipment

559
00:21:40,258 --> 00:21:42,163
skin came to me and say, like, where's

560
00:21:42,163 --> 00:21:44,704
your ukrainian passport. I'm just like, who are

561
00:21:44,704 --> 00:21:47,983
you what you have I'm so like scared

562
00:21:48,197 --> 00:21:49,094
because I'm with

563
00:21:49,403 --> 00:21:49,880
my kids.

564
00:21:50,753 --> 00:21:53,295
And I'm just like, you mean you Ukrainian

565
00:21:53,295 --> 00:21:55,439
passport like, should like, you have to burn

566
00:21:55,439 --> 00:21:57,186
it and something like this, and I'm just,

567
00:21:57,345 --> 00:21:59,028
like, we will give you another 1, and

568
00:21:59,107 --> 00:22:01,013
I'm just, like, what I can say they

569
00:22:01,013 --> 00:22:03,316
them no. I'm just like, oh okay Okay.

570
00:22:03,554 --> 00:22:05,460
Okay. And they leave and after I'm just,

571
00:22:05,539 --> 00:22:07,700
like, that's not okay. It's not okay. And

572
00:22:07,780 --> 00:22:10,269
I... Doesn't wanna talk here about me.

573
00:22:10,883 --> 00:22:12,156
It would just be so tragic.

574
00:22:12,713 --> 00:22:14,798
But I can't even imagine it. It's let

575
00:22:14,798 --> 00:22:16,792
let me ask a different question, Marsha. So

576
00:22:16,872 --> 00:22:19,424
I imagine if if Ukraine is anything like

577
00:22:19,424 --> 00:22:21,338
other parts of the world that when it

578
00:22:21,338 --> 00:22:22,615
comes to matters of politics,

579
00:22:23,013 --> 00:22:25,019
there's people in the church that are kind

580
00:22:25,019 --> 00:22:27,641
of on, like both sides of the issue.

581
00:22:28,435 --> 00:22:29,967
Did this create

582
00:22:30,420 --> 00:22:32,826
divisions within the ward or the branch

583
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:33,970
at church

584
00:22:34,485 --> 00:22:34,723
like,

585
00:22:35,437 --> 00:22:39,324
everywhere, people have different opinions. Some... Some... It

586
00:22:39,324 --> 00:22:41,227
was not so many people and then it

587
00:22:41,227 --> 00:22:44,108
for support. This regime, but still it were

588
00:22:44,108 --> 00:22:45,703
some people who support this, like,

589
00:22:46,660 --> 00:22:48,893
invasion? So... Don't know. So how how did

590
00:22:48,893 --> 00:22:50,408
the members of the church? How do you

591
00:22:50,408 --> 00:22:52,576
deal with that? Because If I'm sitting at

592
00:22:52,576 --> 00:22:54,170
a park and somebody comes to me and

593
00:22:54,170 --> 00:22:55,605
says, give me your passport, I'm gonna burn

594
00:22:55,605 --> 00:22:57,757
it up or I'm gonna shoot you. I

595
00:22:57,836 --> 00:22:59,271
I would have a very hard time.

596
00:22:59,844 --> 00:23:02,314
At the next testimony meeting if somebody stands

597
00:23:02,314 --> 00:23:04,305
up saying something supportive of that group. I

598
00:23:04,305 --> 00:23:06,297
would feel very angry, and I would want

599
00:23:06,297 --> 00:23:07,810
to be mean to them be like, hey.

600
00:23:08,129 --> 00:23:10,135
Stop that. Like, How do you deal with

601
00:23:10,135 --> 00:23:10,294
that?

602
00:23:11,409 --> 00:23:14,515
It was really hard because I remember when

603
00:23:14,515 --> 00:23:16,825
it was, like, just in the beginning when

604
00:23:16,825 --> 00:23:17,781
we support, like...

605
00:23:18,355 --> 00:23:21,234
My done and everything we put, like, flags

606
00:23:21,234 --> 00:23:23,794
and her cars and on our balcony and

607
00:23:23,794 --> 00:23:27,009
everything. And cars with Ukrainian flux, in the

608
00:23:27,009 --> 00:23:27,890
morning was burned.

609
00:23:28,529 --> 00:23:32,230
And, like, meal is cool. And. What's the

610
00:23:32,450 --> 00:23:34,849
before they said, like, 2 is. Okay. You

611
00:23:34,849 --> 00:23:37,577
old or you go into another part of

612
00:23:37,577 --> 00:23:39,412
ukraine order your stains for russian.

613
00:23:39,970 --> 00:23:42,761
And people just have to choose right away,

614
00:23:42,921 --> 00:23:45,808
like, what they I don't know. They probably

615
00:23:45,808 --> 00:23:47,966
talk with their families and decide what they're

616
00:23:47,966 --> 00:23:50,842
gonna do. Somebody moves somebody stay. A lot

617
00:23:50,842 --> 00:23:53,891
of our listeners don't really understand. Like, what

618
00:23:53,891 --> 00:23:56,197
is the difference of Ukraine and Russia. Right?

619
00:23:56,356 --> 00:23:58,266
Like, I would imagine that if there are

620
00:23:58,266 --> 00:23:59,777
members of the church who live in Ukraine

621
00:23:59,777 --> 00:24:01,945
that are... Supportive of Russia that they probably

622
00:24:01,945 --> 00:24:03,461
kinda of feel like, oh, maybe we're Russian

623
00:24:03,461 --> 00:24:05,717
or something. Like, what is the difference? Is

624
00:24:05,776 --> 00:24:08,384
when Russia says Ukraine belongs to us to

625
00:24:08,824 --> 00:24:11,058
Are they wrong? Like, is there something different

626
00:24:11,058 --> 00:24:12,894
about Ukraine than Russia?

627
00:24:14,969 --> 00:24:16,666
Well, I can say that

628
00:24:17,136 --> 00:24:20,015
like in addiction, we have our own language

629
00:24:20,150 --> 00:24:22,767
with folks, you know, have... Or Yeah. Our

630
00:24:22,767 --> 00:24:25,581
our own language Ukrainian and our own territory

631
00:24:25,795 --> 00:24:27,461
are even soil different,

632
00:24:27,937 --> 00:24:29,841
like, China's own soil is different,

633
00:24:30,951 --> 00:24:33,116
traditions, own culture, songs,

634
00:24:34,233 --> 00:24:34,553
literature,

635
00:24:35,271 --> 00:24:36,090
our history.

636
00:24:37,026 --> 00:24:39,420
Our our own style of cooking,

637
00:24:39,914 --> 00:24:41,746
I could say that the boris is the

638
00:24:41,746 --> 00:24:43,100
tester in Ukraine,

639
00:24:44,056 --> 00:24:45,011
but rust.

640
00:24:45,967 --> 00:24:47,959
Yeah. Of course. Like anywhere.

641
00:24:49,169 --> 00:24:51,483
But the most important thing, yeah.

642
00:24:52,201 --> 00:24:52,361
It's...

643
00:24:53,239 --> 00:24:56,372
That is a described in the history, and

644
00:24:56,430 --> 00:24:59,550
this is... Obviously, right now that Ukrainian people

645
00:24:59,550 --> 00:25:00,368
are fighting

646
00:25:00,903 --> 00:25:01,778
for freedom.

647
00:25:02,812 --> 00:25:05,836
This is our symbol in the wall freedom,

648
00:25:06,249 --> 00:25:06,729
free will.

649
00:25:07,528 --> 00:25:09,685
Ukrainians know the taste of freedom.

650
00:25:10,165 --> 00:25:11,784
It's in their genes.

651
00:25:12,802 --> 00:25:15,452
In their genes. Yeah. Yeah. So the the,

652
00:25:15,611 --> 00:25:17,520
yeah, real fast wash. So the thing you're

653
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,463
talking about Bull, bull means the word freedom.

654
00:25:21,099 --> 00:25:23,406
But there's... If you see a Ukrainian flag,

655
00:25:23,899 --> 00:25:26,537
it'll have blue on top, yellow on the

656
00:25:26,537 --> 00:25:28,854
bottom, and sometimes you see this symbol in

657
00:25:28,854 --> 00:25:30,852
the middle, and that's what you're talking about.

658
00:25:31,092 --> 00:25:32,870
That symbol is the the trident

659
00:25:33,424 --> 00:25:35,739
and it's also the the letters in that

660
00:25:35,739 --> 00:25:37,815
spell out the word volume, which means like

661
00:25:37,815 --> 00:25:40,609
free will or freedom. Right? So Ukraine has

662
00:25:40,609 --> 00:25:41,668
always been about

663
00:25:42,046 --> 00:25:42,685
individual freedom.

664
00:25:43,578 --> 00:25:46,530
Yeah. Through host history, we fight for freedom.

665
00:25:46,929 --> 00:25:49,164
Yeah. And... Yeah. So tell me about this,

666
00:25:49,802 --> 00:25:51,492
most people don't know this. So there was

667
00:25:51,492 --> 00:25:53,664
a... Like, the time of Peter The Great

668
00:25:53,721 --> 00:25:54,540
and Catherine,

669
00:25:55,473 --> 00:25:56,587
the Empress of Russia,

670
00:25:57,543 --> 00:26:00,745
Ukraine was its own territory. It's like, all

671
00:26:00,745 --> 00:26:02,500
the way back in the 16 hundreds, there

672
00:26:02,500 --> 00:26:05,052
were the c that lived there. And Yeah.

673
00:26:05,211 --> 00:26:07,125
And like, what were... What... Like, how is

674
00:26:07,125 --> 00:26:08,721
that different? Yeah. Like,

675
00:26:09,294 --> 00:26:12,797
they try to kill Ko movement too because

676
00:26:12,797 --> 00:26:14,491
they always was so,

677
00:26:15,106 --> 00:26:18,546
like, they doesn't have fear. They write letters

678
00:26:18,546 --> 00:26:19,342
to the kings,

679
00:26:19,980 --> 00:26:21,971
they don't care about. They fight to the

680
00:26:21,971 --> 00:26:22,210
end.

681
00:26:22,848 --> 00:26:24,680
They don't want to be slaves.

682
00:26:25,412 --> 00:26:27,721
Ukrainians want to be free people always.

683
00:26:29,075 --> 00:26:32,180
Did you have by chance in movie 20

684
00:26:32,180 --> 00:26:33,078
days in Mar?

685
00:26:34,346 --> 00:26:36,979
Yeah. So that's 1 I couldn't watch because

686
00:26:37,138 --> 00:26:39,371
I lived a little time in Mara. And

687
00:26:39,371 --> 00:26:41,764
so when it becomes too personal, I'm not...

688
00:26:41,924 --> 00:26:43,221
I I just can't handle

689
00:26:43,534 --> 00:26:45,127
it's like traumatic for me to watch it.

690
00:26:45,286 --> 00:26:47,357
So I'm familiar with it, but I couldn't

691
00:26:47,357 --> 00:26:49,587
watch the show. I know what you feel

692
00:26:49,587 --> 00:26:50,702
like I feel the same.

693
00:26:51,738 --> 00:26:52,238
And

694
00:26:52,788 --> 00:26:56,375
in Ukraine and Mar maduro, they people there

695
00:26:56,375 --> 00:26:57,650
speak Russian language.

696
00:26:58,208 --> 00:26:59,983
Mh. And they

697
00:27:00,613 --> 00:27:03,238
through the whole this movie, it's not even

698
00:27:03,238 --> 00:27:05,227
movie. I cannot say this movie. It's just

699
00:27:05,227 --> 00:27:07,238
like records from their

700
00:27:07,708 --> 00:27:09,862
what's going on was there doing this time?

701
00:27:10,420 --> 00:27:13,770
People ask same all the same... All people

702
00:27:13,770 --> 00:27:14,727
same question.

703
00:27:15,365 --> 00:27:18,089
Why are they doing this to us what

704
00:27:18,089 --> 00:27:19,042
did we do ron?

705
00:27:19,757 --> 00:27:22,720
Hundreds of thousands of people, civilians

706
00:27:23,253 --> 00:27:26,788
died there? We pay the price for freedom

707
00:27:27,086 --> 00:27:29,979
with our own lives right there

708
00:27:30,356 --> 00:27:32,509
right now. Mh. And they're still doing it.

709
00:27:32,669 --> 00:27:34,663
Right Ukrainians are still finding for freedom. Like,

710
00:27:34,823 --> 00:27:36,832
they haven't given up I don't think they

711
00:27:36,832 --> 00:27:38,748
ever will give up. Like, there's no reason

712
00:27:38,748 --> 00:27:40,902
for them to stop fighting for freedom in

713
00:27:40,902 --> 00:27:41,541
their own land.

714
00:27:42,499 --> 00:27:44,196
This is our home. This is

715
00:27:44,666 --> 00:27:46,965
Like, they that don't have place where to

716
00:27:46,965 --> 00:27:49,265
go. This is their house. This is their

717
00:27:49,265 --> 00:27:51,882
place. This where they raise their their kids.

718
00:27:52,455 --> 00:27:54,455
Okay. So now we're gonna transition So you

719
00:27:54,455 --> 00:27:55,975
leave Ukraine and You go to the United

720
00:27:56,215 --> 00:27:58,375
States. Your mom goes to keep, your get

721
00:27:58,375 --> 00:28:00,235
dad goes to take care of his mother

722
00:28:00,709 --> 00:28:02,545
what kind of a welcome do you receive

723
00:28:02,545 --> 00:28:04,302
in the United States? Because as I'm thinking

724
00:28:04,302 --> 00:28:05,579
back to 2014,

725
00:28:06,138 --> 00:28:08,533
not a lot of Americans were aware of

726
00:28:08,533 --> 00:28:10,464
what was happening in Ukraine at that time,

727
00:28:11,103 --> 00:28:13,021
what what was the church like? What were

728
00:28:13,021 --> 00:28:15,019
people like in the United States when you

729
00:28:15,019 --> 00:28:15,338
arrive?

730
00:28:16,617 --> 00:28:18,135
Like we came to Yu.

731
00:28:18,789 --> 00:28:20,230
This was the best choice.

732
00:28:21,349 --> 00:28:24,089
And this is the best people like

733
00:28:25,269 --> 00:28:25,769
extremely

734
00:28:27,122 --> 00:28:28,877
love and welcoming and friendly.

735
00:28:29,435 --> 00:28:29,675
Like,

736
00:28:30,393 --> 00:28:33,503
oh, moving to another city is difficult, but,

737
00:28:33,583 --> 00:28:36,215
like, moving to another countries very difficult.

738
00:28:36,865 --> 00:28:37,761
Different language,

739
00:28:38,608 --> 00:28:38,925
like,

740
00:28:40,035 --> 00:28:40,535
your

741
00:28:41,461 --> 00:28:43,125
beloved ones far away from you.

742
00:28:44,013 --> 00:28:45,787
In danger, no documents,

743
00:28:46,243 --> 00:28:48,017
like not driver's license.

744
00:28:49,986 --> 00:28:50,964
You just constantly

745
00:28:51,499 --> 00:28:53,505
look in the news crime is.

746
00:28:54,222 --> 00:28:55,598
But, like, what is

747
00:28:56,293 --> 00:28:59,160
important for me days, it was, like, my

748
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:00,297
kids. My family

749
00:29:00,912 --> 00:29:03,236
safe. And it helped me to move on.

750
00:29:04,111 --> 00:29:05,146
We move to Yu,

751
00:29:06,021 --> 00:29:07,294
members of the church

752
00:29:07,772 --> 00:29:10,398
of Jesus christ the letter they says have

753
00:29:10,398 --> 00:29:10,898
become

754
00:29:11,289 --> 00:29:13,304
a second family for us literally.

755
00:29:14,239 --> 00:29:17,109
We felt and feel the support of heavenly

756
00:29:17,109 --> 00:29:17,609
father

757
00:29:18,544 --> 00:29:19,761
and blessed

758
00:29:20,074 --> 00:29:23,126
even through this time, we feel blessed. Tempo

759
00:29:23,184 --> 00:29:24,721
have become my place of

760
00:29:25,099 --> 00:29:27,412
consolation. There are many of them here.

761
00:29:28,050 --> 00:29:28,789
The temple

762
00:29:29,166 --> 00:29:29,666
is

763
00:29:29,978 --> 00:29:32,198
the house of god, and he's my creator,

764
00:29:32,436 --> 00:29:35,211
he knows how to comfort me. So when

765
00:29:35,211 --> 00:29:37,193
you first get to the United States,

766
00:29:37,763 --> 00:29:40,067
you stayed with your mission companion who was

767
00:29:40,226 --> 00:29:40,726
Russian

768
00:29:41,099 --> 00:29:43,085
for several weeks in their little basement apartment.

769
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,898
Yeah. Yeah. Church members brought us everything we

770
00:29:46,898 --> 00:29:50,652
needed. For rented thousand, like, everything. Like, I

771
00:29:50,652 --> 00:29:52,345
remember I was all in tears

772
00:29:53,675 --> 00:29:55,865
because I don't know that's here a rented

773
00:29:56,565 --> 00:29:57,845
housing, like empty.

774
00:29:58,805 --> 00:29:59,285
Yeah.

775
00:29:59,845 --> 00:30:02,745
They were in everything table, sofa creeps, toys

776
00:30:03,136 --> 00:30:05,119
kitchen kitchen items, just towels,

777
00:30:06,071 --> 00:30:06,571
everything...

778
00:30:07,499 --> 00:30:09,006
Like, everyone shares something,

779
00:30:09,482 --> 00:30:10,458
like, really

780
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:12,917
real family.

781
00:30:13,634 --> 00:30:16,263
I felt that the Lord himself was stressing

782
00:30:16,263 --> 00:30:18,549
me through them and taken care of

783
00:30:19,226 --> 00:30:19,942
my family.

784
00:30:20,737 --> 00:30:22,805
I still keep in touch with sister Robin

785
00:30:22,885 --> 00:30:24,180
Luke. As she was

786
00:30:24,714 --> 00:30:26,983
early decided is an entire sister.

787
00:30:28,161 --> 00:30:30,478
Sister Luke. Thank you sister Luke for helping

788
00:30:30,478 --> 00:30:31,437
me. Yeah.

789
00:30:33,209 --> 00:30:35,119
1 of my friends. I remember, like,

790
00:30:35,835 --> 00:30:37,188
we have little money,

791
00:30:37,983 --> 00:30:41,104
and I remember, like, 1 of my friends

792
00:30:41,104 --> 00:30:43,581
and who live with us in an apartment

793
00:30:43,581 --> 00:30:45,819
complex. You said, like, I hope you don't

794
00:30:45,819 --> 00:30:47,977
think to pay titan to your church.

795
00:30:50,548 --> 00:30:51,048
U.

796
00:30:51,662 --> 00:30:53,730
And I answer her, like,

797
00:30:54,525 --> 00:30:56,752
I first like, all on the foyer. I'm

798
00:30:56,752 --> 00:30:59,498
just, like, this is privilege for me, and

799
00:30:59,715 --> 00:31:00,512
especially now,

800
00:31:01,070 --> 00:31:03,700
I need these lessons that come through the

801
00:31:03,700 --> 00:31:04,576
pain tighten.

802
00:31:05,309 --> 00:31:07,942
And right now, I am touching the walls

803
00:31:07,942 --> 00:31:08,660
of my house.

804
00:31:10,574 --> 00:31:12,111
Yeah, God bless

805
00:31:12,505 --> 00:31:15,545
us as he promised, this is faith that

806
00:31:15,545 --> 00:31:16,184
you can touch.

807
00:31:16,904 --> 00:31:18,184
Oh, that's sweet, Marshall.

808
00:31:19,625 --> 00:31:20,525
Wow. It's

809
00:31:21,079 --> 00:31:24,190
Yeah. It's nice to became independent. We were

810
00:31:24,190 --> 00:31:26,742
very grateful for the work permit meet, and

811
00:31:26,742 --> 00:31:28,975
it is very difficult to ask for help.

812
00:31:29,214 --> 00:31:29,954
It's like

813
00:31:31,301 --> 00:31:34,319
You never... You think it's easy to accept

814
00:31:34,319 --> 00:31:36,860
help. It's hard too. Sometimes to accept.

815
00:31:37,971 --> 00:31:38,527
Okay. Like,

816
00:31:39,178 --> 00:31:41,164
it was some, like, 1 more story.

817
00:31:43,230 --> 00:31:44,342
Back in Ukraine,

818
00:31:44,978 --> 00:31:47,464
it was year before 2000

819
00:31:47,854 --> 00:31:48,888
like, 2013,

820
00:31:49,048 --> 00:31:51,913
probably. I was sleeping... I was pregnant, and

821
00:31:52,072 --> 00:31:53,129
I sat with

822
00:31:53,505 --> 00:31:55,893
my another daughter and the playground. She's play

823
00:31:55,893 --> 00:31:57,460
with another kids, and

824
00:31:57,819 --> 00:31:58,877
I met

825
00:31:59,575 --> 00:32:02,130
refugee woman from Taj With her kids.

826
00:32:03,008 --> 00:32:05,584
And I remember I feel like so,

827
00:32:06,361 --> 00:32:06,760
you know,

828
00:32:08,206 --> 00:32:09,000
connection with her,

829
00:32:09,636 --> 00:32:12,257
and she said that she didn't have a

830
00:32:12,257 --> 00:32:14,322
washing machine and at home and she washed

831
00:32:14,322 --> 00:32:16,680
her clothes by hands. I offered her help

832
00:32:17,596 --> 00:32:20,544
to watch her clothes, like laundry service.

833
00:32:21,261 --> 00:32:23,970
Mh. And I remember she was so pleased,

834
00:32:24,129 --> 00:32:26,042
but the same time she was so shy.

835
00:32:27,173 --> 00:32:27,412
Right.

836
00:32:28,448 --> 00:32:31,341
I... Then I could not even imagine

837
00:32:31,957 --> 00:32:35,067
that year later, I would coming at future

838
00:32:35,067 --> 00:32:35,306
myself.

839
00:32:36,438 --> 00:32:38,035
Now I know how they feel?

840
00:32:39,153 --> 00:32:39,653
It's

841
00:32:40,031 --> 00:32:41,228
how it's phyllis.

842
00:32:42,506 --> 00:32:45,434
Yeah. It's crazy. Right? Like, in Ukraine you

843
00:32:45,554 --> 00:32:48,109
totally self sufficient. You had everything you needed.

844
00:32:48,269 --> 00:32:51,222
Like, obviously, nobody has everything that they need,

845
00:32:51,382 --> 00:32:52,979
But you're doing fine. Right? You have a

846
00:32:52,979 --> 00:32:54,735
business Yes. Taking care of your family.

847
00:32:55,308 --> 00:32:57,855
Everything's going well, and then suddenly just out

848
00:32:57,855 --> 00:32:58,491
of nowhere.

849
00:32:59,048 --> 00:33:01,117
Everything changes and suddenly, you have nothing.

850
00:33:01,913 --> 00:33:04,239
And, yeah. It's a very a very hard

851
00:33:04,239 --> 00:33:05,835
thing to imagine how that would be.

852
00:33:06,473 --> 00:33:08,626
But even more so than you're a refugee,

853
00:33:08,706 --> 00:33:10,859
and now you're totally dependent on the mercy

854
00:33:10,859 --> 00:33:12,237
and kindness of strangers

855
00:33:13,028 --> 00:33:13,907
to help you out.

856
00:33:16,062 --> 00:33:16,541
That's true.

857
00:33:17,579 --> 00:33:19,815
This is 1 of my favorite things about

858
00:33:19,815 --> 00:33:21,731
the church of Jesus Christ of Latter day

859
00:33:21,731 --> 00:33:21,970
saints.

860
00:33:22,784 --> 00:33:25,105
I know that almost anywhere in the world

861
00:33:25,105 --> 00:33:25,744
where I go,

862
00:33:26,384 --> 00:33:28,544
I can find another member of the church

863
00:33:28,544 --> 00:33:30,224
of Jesus Christ of Latter day saints,

864
00:33:30,797 --> 00:33:32,783
and they're gonna have that same kindness in

865
00:33:32,783 --> 00:33:34,848
their heart and willingness to help me. That

866
00:33:34,848 --> 00:33:37,231
if I'm ever in need, the lord's gonna

867
00:33:37,231 --> 00:33:39,138
help guide me to people that are there

868
00:33:39,138 --> 00:33:40,011
that can help me out.

869
00:33:41,061 --> 00:33:41,301
Yeah.

870
00:33:42,336 --> 00:33:43,851
I feel this is like family,

871
00:33:44,488 --> 00:33:46,719
everywhere everywhere you go, where church,

872
00:33:47,277 --> 00:33:49,620
like, if there's a church you can

873
00:33:50,073 --> 00:33:51,898
you can feel part of the family you're

874
00:33:51,898 --> 00:33:52,375
not alone.

875
00:33:53,169 --> 00:33:54,836
This is how heavenly father wants.

876
00:33:56,042 --> 00:33:57,950
Us to to do to act.

877
00:33:58,744 --> 00:34:01,208
So you and your husband just became Us

878
00:34:01,208 --> 00:34:03,036
citizens within the last year. Is that right?

879
00:34:04,888 --> 00:34:06,885
And then we should have the applause. When

880
00:34:06,885 --> 00:34:08,404
did you become Us citizens?

881
00:34:09,842 --> 00:34:12,079
And this March, March 19,

882
00:34:12,493 --> 00:34:15,535
We're so excited 10 years. We were

883
00:34:15,909 --> 00:34:17,895
to be americans. You've been here for 10

884
00:34:17,895 --> 00:34:20,809
years. I know. Wow I'm going flat fast

885
00:34:21,485 --> 00:34:23,793
because we know that America is really trying

886
00:34:23,793 --> 00:34:26,679
to protect freedom. We found this freedom and

887
00:34:26,815 --> 00:34:27,372
protection here.

888
00:34:28,425 --> 00:34:31,065
When the war started, we went to A

889
00:34:31,065 --> 00:34:32,905
rally, I remember for Ukraine,

890
00:34:34,184 --> 00:34:34,684
collecting

891
00:34:35,144 --> 00:34:38,196
signatures in support, I was so surprised.

892
00:34:39,233 --> 00:34:40,291
All pub,

893
00:34:40,749 --> 00:34:44,258
all government instrument really worked. You have to

894
00:34:44,258 --> 00:34:46,651
proud of your country. The governor came to

895
00:34:46,651 --> 00:34:47,105
us

896
00:34:48,182 --> 00:34:50,416
all his team, and they understood the issue.

897
00:34:50,655 --> 00:34:51,155
They

898
00:34:52,729 --> 00:34:54,027
investigate the question

899
00:34:54,899 --> 00:34:59,234
all parties help us, like American voices have

900
00:34:59,373 --> 00:34:59,852
power.

901
00:35:00,251 --> 00:35:02,444
It really is. Every...

902
00:35:03,302 --> 00:35:05,699
Elected officials will listen to you. Yeah.

903
00:35:06,498 --> 00:35:08,335
Yeah. Yep. It's true.

904
00:35:09,225 --> 00:35:13,274
Like, in whole system words. Your president hears

905
00:35:13,274 --> 00:35:13,512
you.

906
00:35:15,338 --> 00:35:17,664
Even he hears even immigrants

907
00:35:18,052 --> 00:35:20,038
like, big days with was immigrants, you know?

908
00:35:20,514 --> 00:35:24,246
Thanks Yeah. To president Biden for the program

909
00:35:24,405 --> 00:35:25,437
United for Ukraine.

910
00:35:26,008 --> 00:35:26,906
It's helping

911
00:35:27,599 --> 00:35:31,041
refugee more than. Like, when we started whole

912
00:35:31,177 --> 00:35:32,768
invasion in 2022,

913
00:35:33,324 --> 00:35:36,535
more than For this day, it's more than

914
00:35:36,535 --> 00:35:39,434
16. Can you imagine 16000000

915
00:35:39,574 --> 00:35:40,054
people.

916
00:35:40,535 --> 00:35:43,494
Run became a refugees from run from Ukraine.

917
00:35:43,989 --> 00:35:46,939
Like my grandma said, it souls, 60000000

918
00:35:46,939 --> 00:35:47,258
souls.

919
00:35:48,135 --> 00:35:48,635
And,

920
00:35:49,092 --> 00:35:49,592
America

921
00:35:50,447 --> 00:35:54,311
give more than 202000

922
00:35:54,608 --> 00:35:55,086
people,

923
00:35:55,962 --> 00:35:58,511
shelter in the United States.

924
00:35:59,547 --> 00:36:02,905
Yeah. And my parents, my husband parents here

925
00:36:02,905 --> 00:36:04,096
right now. They safe.

926
00:36:04,731 --> 00:36:07,112
Thanks to your mercy American people.

927
00:36:09,335 --> 00:36:10,764
Thank you for Karen.

928
00:36:11,652 --> 00:36:12,152
About

929
00:36:13,562 --> 00:36:15,335
all freedoms, all

930
00:36:15,869 --> 00:36:16,505
innocent people.

931
00:36:17,301 --> 00:36:19,370
May god bless America, and this is not

932
00:36:19,370 --> 00:36:19,927
the phrase.

933
00:36:20,898 --> 00:36:22,970
This is what many immigrants feel.

934
00:36:23,927 --> 00:36:25,304
We are so grateful

935
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,412
for this length of freedom and opportunity.

936
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,028
This is country of immigrants,

937
00:36:31,664 --> 00:36:32,856
a lot of culture,

938
00:36:33,412 --> 00:36:37,249
and everyone leads together in harmony harmony, like

939
00:36:37,639 --> 00:36:39,231
it's perfect, but still.

940
00:36:40,106 --> 00:36:43,551
Mh. It's so important. It's like god wants

941
00:36:43,608 --> 00:36:45,121
it's to be everywhere.

942
00:36:46,170 --> 00:36:48,180
That's really nice for you to say

943
00:36:48,554 --> 00:36:51,574
about the United States. I think it's aspirational.

944
00:36:51,813 --> 00:36:53,880
Right? I think it's something we're trying to

945
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:54,380
become

946
00:36:54,769 --> 00:36:56,607
And it makes me really, really happy when

947
00:36:56,607 --> 00:36:58,284
we succeed in that. I don't think we

948
00:36:58,284 --> 00:37:01,340
always succeed, but I'm super happy that

949
00:37:02,132 --> 00:37:03,641
that our country has been there to help

950
00:37:03,641 --> 00:37:05,547
you and your family because I care a

951
00:37:05,547 --> 00:37:06,978
lot about you guys. Thanks.

952
00:37:08,249 --> 00:37:08,487
Yeah.

953
00:37:09,218 --> 00:37:09,936
Thanks, Marsha.

954
00:37:10,653 --> 00:37:11,131
So

955
00:37:11,689 --> 00:37:13,602
so you serve in the church in a

956
00:37:13,682 --> 00:37:15,036
Russian speaking branch.

957
00:37:15,834 --> 00:37:15,993
Yeah.

958
00:37:17,123 --> 00:37:20,141
They So I imagine, there's Russian speaking there

959
00:37:20,141 --> 00:37:21,810
are a lot of places where people speak

960
00:37:21,889 --> 00:37:24,852
Russian. Like, there's Ukraine. There's probably Kazakhstan,

961
00:37:25,782 --> 00:37:26,282
Mongolia,

962
00:37:27,230 --> 00:37:29,390
Like, what is it like in this Russian

963
00:37:29,390 --> 00:37:31,869
branch, especially after the invasion of Ukraine?

964
00:37:34,363 --> 00:37:36,985
Yeah. My husband and nicer in Russian speaking

965
00:37:36,985 --> 00:37:38,121
branch in Snowflake Lake

966
00:37:38,654 --> 00:37:41,038
from the end of 02:20

967
00:37:41,038 --> 00:37:42,646
20. And the... Oh,

968
00:37:43,364 --> 00:37:43,603
yeah.

969
00:37:46,235 --> 00:37:48,309
I serve as the young woman president, and

970
00:37:48,309 --> 00:37:50,325
we have 5 girls. There are

971
00:37:50,862 --> 00:37:52,472
enough hands in, like,

972
00:37:53,190 --> 00:37:54,386
our local words.

973
00:37:55,423 --> 00:37:55,923
But

974
00:37:56,539 --> 00:37:57,757
we feel

975
00:37:58,294 --> 00:37:59,570
we're more needed there.

976
00:38:01,899 --> 00:38:05,011
Sometimes it's difficult, like, kids get tired travel

977
00:38:05,011 --> 00:38:05,330
for,

978
00:38:05,969 --> 00:38:07,804
but between us with my husband, we call

979
00:38:07,804 --> 00:38:08,682
this like mission.

980
00:38:11,002 --> 00:38:12,983
You feel like you're serving ambition in the

981
00:38:12,983 --> 00:38:13,933
rocks speaking branch.

982
00:38:15,518 --> 00:38:18,468
Yeah. There's many juice right now from Ukraine

983
00:38:18,468 --> 00:38:20,373
and also from Russia our orange.

984
00:38:21,565 --> 00:38:22,938
When war started,

985
00:38:23,550 --> 00:38:26,304
I remember I cut myself with a bit

986
00:38:26,424 --> 00:38:26,924
feelings

987
00:38:27,620 --> 00:38:28,120
to

988
00:38:28,577 --> 00:38:29,373
Russian people.

989
00:38:30,410 --> 00:38:33,360
It was difficult to love everyone. And when

990
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:34,715
sacramento meeting starts.

991
00:38:35,288 --> 00:38:37,999
I felt the holy ghost. And when I

992
00:38:37,999 --> 00:38:39,593
was able to continue.

993
00:38:39,992 --> 00:38:43,181
After this, I can, you know, continue to

994
00:38:43,181 --> 00:38:43,635
serve

995
00:38:44,391 --> 00:38:44,891
and

996
00:38:46,143 --> 00:38:46,643
see

997
00:38:47,018 --> 00:38:50,544
people how god see us these as we

998
00:38:50,601 --> 00:38:51,637
bear his children.

999
00:38:52,446 --> 00:38:56,410
God will judge every person by his actions

1000
00:38:56,410 --> 00:38:59,764
no matter what nationality or skin color his

1001
00:39:01,105 --> 00:39:02,454
He's our redeem,

1002
00:39:03,089 --> 00:39:05,709
and he has the right and power to

1003
00:39:05,709 --> 00:39:06,209
sort,

1004
00:39:07,217 --> 00:39:08,909
you know, sort it out

1005
00:39:09,614 --> 00:39:11,838
No. All of us. Yeah. Yeah.

1006
00:39:12,791 --> 00:39:15,095
I need to look after myself.

1007
00:39:17,795 --> 00:39:18,033
Yeah.

1008
00:39:20,753 --> 00:39:24,095
Actually, many Russians who do not support their

1009
00:39:24,095 --> 00:39:25,550
regime of genocide

1010
00:39:26,258 --> 00:39:29,278
a Ukrainians donate need money for army for

1011
00:39:29,517 --> 00:39:33,491
Ukraine funds for victims for hospitals, thousands food.

1012
00:39:34,542 --> 00:39:37,015
Because they understand by doing this, they will

1013
00:39:37,015 --> 00:39:37,972
bring freedom.

1014
00:39:39,328 --> 00:39:42,917
Freedom for Ukraine, freedom for their own country

1015
00:39:42,917 --> 00:39:43,555
for Russia.

1016
00:39:44,847 --> 00:39:45,246
Mh.

1017
00:39:46,922 --> 00:39:50,433
So so in some ways, supporting Ukraine is

1018
00:39:50,433 --> 00:39:51,731
a way for these Russians

1019
00:39:52,363 --> 00:39:52,863
to

1020
00:39:53,238 --> 00:39:54,829
fight for freedom in their own country?

1021
00:39:55,624 --> 00:39:56,181
That's true.

1022
00:39:57,454 --> 00:39:57,692
Yeah.

1023
00:39:59,855 --> 00:40:01,844
So how do you think Americans are different

1024
00:40:01,844 --> 00:40:02,719
from Ukrainians?

1025
00:40:04,469 --> 00:40:05,583
We are no different.

1026
00:40:06,790 --> 00:40:07,982
We are just like you.

1027
00:40:09,333 --> 00:40:11,819
We just want to leave, leaf freely,

1028
00:40:12,590 --> 00:40:14,497
have children be happy.

1029
00:40:15,307 --> 00:40:16,524
Leave in safety

1030
00:40:18,650 --> 00:40:21,538
to build a free future for the next

1031
00:40:21,833 --> 00:40:22,152
generations,

1032
00:40:23,041 --> 00:40:25,742
Americans know the price of the freedom too.

1033
00:40:26,695 --> 00:40:27,649
We are the same.

1034
00:40:29,078 --> 00:40:30,985
Yeah. I like that masha. What do you

1035
00:40:30,985 --> 00:40:31,938
think about that, Melissa?

1036
00:40:33,702 --> 00:40:37,039
My head is spinning at your life, Masha.

1037
00:40:37,199 --> 00:40:38,334
Like, it's

1038
00:40:38,708 --> 00:40:39,924
so very

1039
00:40:40,234 --> 00:40:42,549
You've had such a different experience in life

1040
00:40:42,549 --> 00:40:43,368
than I

1041
00:40:43,826 --> 00:40:44,545
could imagine.

1042
00:40:46,380 --> 00:40:48,615
I do, but then it's also interesting because,

1043
00:40:48,775 --> 00:40:50,696
like, this stage in our lives, our life's

1044
00:40:50,696 --> 00:40:52,997
probably look very much the same. Right? Like,

1045
00:40:53,473 --> 00:40:55,536
we're both living in Utah and we have

1046
00:40:55,536 --> 00:40:57,124
families that we're trying to take care of.

1047
00:40:58,170 --> 00:41:00,388
And I just... I'm just... My mind is

1048
00:41:00,388 --> 00:41:02,631
blown at what you've been through and experienced

1049
00:41:02,686 --> 00:41:04,880
to get where you are. I'm wondering to

1050
00:41:04,999 --> 00:41:06,594
a little bit? Like, what is your life

1051
00:41:06,594 --> 00:41:08,907
like day to day now? Because, like, when

1052
00:41:08,907 --> 00:41:11,539
you're in Ukraine, It was so different. Like,

1053
00:41:11,699 --> 00:41:12,815
what do you do for a job? What

1054
00:41:12,815 --> 00:41:14,171
do you do for a church calling? Like,

1055
00:41:14,331 --> 00:41:16,575
what is life like. Melissa doesn't know this,

1056
00:41:16,734 --> 00:41:19,279
but I know this. Aren't you translators for

1057
00:41:19,279 --> 00:41:19,677
the church?

1058
00:41:20,791 --> 00:41:21,427
It's like,

1059
00:41:21,999 --> 00:41:24,817
it's not transparent. It's like our voices where

1060
00:41:24,876 --> 00:41:28,233
record our... Voices in Ukrainian language 1 general

1061
00:41:28,233 --> 00:41:30,891
conference. Like, we have, like, team who translate

1062
00:41:31,510 --> 00:41:33,272
like, pick. U, they translate the talk.

1063
00:41:34,145 --> 00:41:37,001
The talks. Yeah. And we read this talk

1064
00:41:37,001 --> 00:41:38,667
during the. I don't know if they can

1065
00:41:38,667 --> 00:41:39,778
this like how it works.

1066
00:41:41,063 --> 00:41:41,222
Yeah.

1067
00:41:41,937 --> 00:41:43,764
Like... So like, if the release society president

1068
00:41:43,764 --> 00:41:44,320
is speaking,

1069
00:41:44,956 --> 00:41:46,386
the people in who are listening to the

1070
00:41:46,624 --> 00:41:48,451
Ukrainian language feed they hear your voice.

1071
00:41:49,087 --> 00:41:51,493
Yeah. That's true. First time it was so,

1072
00:41:51,653 --> 00:41:54,530
like, emotional where it's it's because worse started,

1073
00:41:54,690 --> 00:41:57,167
they they don't know what's going on we'll

1074
00:41:57,167 --> 00:41:58,845
be there. They cannot it and its life.

1075
00:41:59,085 --> 00:42:00,373
It's like seconds.

1076
00:42:00,771 --> 00:42:02,998
They you start to collect people here, like,

1077
00:42:03,317 --> 00:42:05,703
who can do that can help with this

1078
00:42:05,703 --> 00:42:06,203
and

1079
00:42:06,594 --> 00:42:08,832
I remember, like, when I think, like, it's

1080
00:42:08,832 --> 00:42:11,869
my voice in hear, like somebody in in

1081
00:42:11,869 --> 00:42:12,848
the boom shelters,

1082
00:42:13,387 --> 00:42:16,275
you know, Yeah. Like, I members. It's awesome.

1083
00:42:16,514 --> 00:42:17,150
It's so cool.

1084
00:42:17,866 --> 00:42:19,695
What is it that you wish that people

1085
00:42:19,695 --> 00:42:22,503
in the United States or people in Utah

1086
00:42:22,813 --> 00:42:25,125
knew about Ukraine. That you feel like maybe

1087
00:42:25,125 --> 00:42:27,117
people don't quite understand about Ukraine.

1088
00:42:27,834 --> 00:42:29,747
With the same people. We have the same

1089
00:42:29,747 --> 00:42:32,625
families. We wanted this freedom just with... We

1090
00:42:32,625 --> 00:42:34,850
have we have to have this chance to

1091
00:42:34,850 --> 00:42:37,099
leave otherwise, how they won't.

1092
00:42:37,950 --> 00:42:38,904
Say but they won't.

1093
00:42:39,873 --> 00:42:41,146
Just be happy.

1094
00:42:41,861 --> 00:42:45,043
Have kids from, like, the same people is

1095
00:42:45,043 --> 00:42:46,656
you. And these sacrifice

1096
00:42:47,111 --> 00:42:47,929
example for

1097
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:50,820
for me whole world because

1098
00:42:52,079 --> 00:42:52,480
they, like,

1099
00:42:53,199 --> 00:42:55,300
the war zone between them

1100
00:42:55,930 --> 00:42:57,144
evil and then

1101
00:42:58,153 --> 00:42:59,185
for 3 world.

1102
00:43:00,852 --> 00:43:03,488
They fight for this. They can... They First,

1103
00:43:03,648 --> 00:43:06,461
they can't fight. They have just, like, feel

1104
00:43:07,556 --> 00:43:10,188
Yeah. We wanna be just free people. We

1105
00:43:10,188 --> 00:43:12,204
don't wanna late. We don't wanna be tortured

1106
00:43:12,342 --> 00:43:12,900
and killed.

1107
00:43:13,554 --> 00:43:14,832
And either stock.

1108
00:43:15,631 --> 00:43:17,389
And we just wouldn't be freed.

1109
00:43:18,108 --> 00:43:19,385
Most of you have any questions?

1110
00:43:21,709 --> 00:43:23,775
I don't wanna make marsha keep feeling sad.

1111
00:43:25,046 --> 00:43:27,668
Oh, man. It's a... It's... Yeah. It's emotional.

1112
00:43:27,827 --> 00:43:28,463
That'd a be wet.

1113
00:43:30,625 --> 00:43:30,864
Yeah.

1114
00:43:32,773 --> 00:43:35,558
I I don't have any questions, but I

1115
00:43:35,558 --> 00:43:38,669
have learned so much from listening to you

1116
00:43:38,669 --> 00:43:38,827
today.

1117
00:43:39,541 --> 00:43:39,938
And

1118
00:43:40,414 --> 00:43:42,556
And I'm just... I'm I'm really glad to

1119
00:43:42,556 --> 00:43:44,405
have been able to meet you to

1120
00:43:44,794 --> 00:43:47,271
just hear a little bit from you and

1121
00:43:47,831 --> 00:43:49,429
and to know that there are people like

1122
00:43:49,429 --> 00:43:52,007
you in the world. This has been really

1123
00:43:52,306 --> 00:43:53,025
touching to me.

1124
00:43:54,312 --> 00:43:57,090
Yeah. And and Marsha, it's your it's your

1125
00:43:57,090 --> 00:43:58,757
life. Right? Like, this is this is your

1126
00:43:58,757 --> 00:44:01,456
personal experience, but I'm grateful that you share

1127
00:44:01,456 --> 00:44:03,860
it with us. Because it builds my faith

1128
00:44:03,860 --> 00:44:06,970
in Jesus Christ. It reminds me that no

1129
00:44:06,970 --> 00:44:09,523
matter what difficulties I'm facing that he'll always

1130
00:44:09,523 --> 00:44:11,197
be there for me. He'll always be there

1131
00:44:11,197 --> 00:44:11,597
with me.

1132
00:44:12,329 --> 00:44:14,405
It renew my faith in my own country

1133
00:44:14,405 --> 00:44:16,959
in the United States because whatever flaws we

1134
00:44:16,959 --> 00:44:19,115
might have, there's goodness in our country where

1135
00:44:19,115 --> 00:44:21,110
we're at least trying to help other people.

1136
00:44:21,844 --> 00:44:24,317
And so I really appreciate you sharing this

1137
00:44:24,317 --> 00:44:25,993
with me because it does, it builds my

1138
00:44:25,993 --> 00:44:28,626
faith and makes me feel better about the

1139
00:44:28,626 --> 00:44:30,718
the prop It actually makes me feel, like,

1140
00:44:30,878 --> 00:44:32,876
the problems I complain about, I really should

1141
00:44:32,876 --> 00:44:35,433
stop praying and complaining about my problems because

1142
00:44:35,433 --> 00:44:37,271
other people have problems there are so much

1143
00:44:37,271 --> 00:44:39,920
worse. Yeah. But Like, I've known you for

1144
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:41,992
so long, marsh. Like, I just... I just

1145
00:44:41,992 --> 00:44:43,904
love that you're willing to share this with

1146
00:44:43,904 --> 00:44:46,269
people. I'm sure that they're also gonna just

1147
00:44:46,469 --> 00:44:49,186
feel your spirit, and I just... Thanks so

1148
00:44:49,186 --> 00:44:51,983
much for joining us. Is there anything you

1149
00:44:51,983 --> 00:44:54,641
wanna say Marsha before we end. At

1150
00:44:55,020 --> 00:44:55,500
America.

1151
00:44:58,057 --> 00:45:00,200
It's it's not like just the words for

1152
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,661
me. Like, you know, just like, grace. Yeah.

1153
00:45:02,900 --> 00:45:04,749
It's really like what I wish

1154
00:45:05,460 --> 00:45:06,760
and to

1155
00:45:08,019 --> 00:45:10,099
my people I can say. I'm a,

1156
00:45:10,579 --> 00:45:11,800
right now, I'm citizen.

1157
00:45:12,434 --> 00:45:12,934
And

1158
00:45:14,184 --> 00:45:16,331
I feel this is, like, heavenly father plan.

1159
00:45:17,047 --> 00:45:19,766
Dave when we became a United States Citizen.

1160
00:45:19,925 --> 00:45:22,869
This is when our Ukrainian passport was expired.

1161
00:45:23,028 --> 00:45:23,744
Can you imagine?

1162
00:45:24,937 --> 00:45:26,264
It all this things they

1163
00:45:26,621 --> 00:45:27,969
When we open our documents,

1164
00:45:28,525 --> 00:45:30,269
prepare for the next day, we just like

1165
00:45:30,269 --> 00:45:31,324
saw, it was

1166
00:45:31,776 --> 00:45:32,276
expired

1167
00:45:32,648 --> 00:45:33,941
March night wow

1168
00:45:34,489 --> 00:45:37,449
And next day, it's, like, in the evening

1169
00:45:37,449 --> 00:45:39,769
residence. It's a this oath ceremony. We it

1170
00:45:39,769 --> 00:45:42,423
doesn't choose this day, not us. Like, just

1171
00:45:42,423 --> 00:45:44,741
compromise and this letter. Okay. This will be

1172
00:45:44,741 --> 00:45:46,978
the and place where we,

1173
00:45:48,177 --> 00:45:50,335
said this old ceremony it was, like,

1174
00:45:51,307 --> 00:45:54,329
Heritage park. This is not the place. This

1175
00:45:54,329 --> 00:45:55,045
is the place.

1176
00:45:58,003 --> 00:45:58,719
I know

1177
00:45:59,275 --> 00:46:01,023
that heavenly 5 have a plan for us.

1178
00:46:01,818 --> 00:46:03,510
I know that's where his children.

1179
00:46:04,123 --> 00:46:06,588
And if I don't know his plan, this,

1180
00:46:06,667 --> 00:46:08,988
like, plan of solution where we're from where

1181
00:46:08,988 --> 00:46:10,897
we go. I don't know how you how

1182
00:46:10,897 --> 00:46:13,204
you can even, like, go through all these,

1183
00:46:13,363 --> 00:46:14,953
like, hard teams and,

1184
00:46:15,844 --> 00:46:16,583
miss privately,

1185
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:17,780
not

1186
00:46:18,317 --> 00:46:18,817
injustices.

1187
00:46:19,593 --> 00:46:22,783
And injustices, you know, because I know that

1188
00:46:22,783 --> 00:46:25,255
everything will be okay with these guys who

1189
00:46:25,255 --> 00:46:26,646
protect their land

1190
00:46:27,099 --> 00:46:27,599
with

1191
00:46:28,132 --> 00:46:28,632
people

1192
00:46:29,005 --> 00:46:29,505
who

1193
00:46:30,038 --> 00:46:30,991
just wanna be free,

1194
00:46:31,627 --> 00:46:34,351
and I know heavenly father will put everything

1195
00:46:34,407 --> 00:46:37,131
on the right place. They all go through

1196
00:46:37,131 --> 00:46:38,030
deep different,

1197
00:46:38,409 --> 00:46:39,387
like, challenges,

1198
00:46:40,804 --> 00:46:42,959
from war, you can try to fight. You

1199
00:46:42,959 --> 00:46:44,795
can try to, like, run.

1200
00:46:45,528 --> 00:46:48,002
But from some sickness you cannot run, you

1201
00:46:48,002 --> 00:46:49,278
know, just go through this.

1202
00:46:50,156 --> 00:46:52,252
I know he loving us and

1203
00:46:52,963 --> 00:46:55,032
through a tournament of Jesus Christ,

1204
00:46:56,065 --> 00:46:59,327
we can... This pain can go away. He

1205
00:46:59,327 --> 00:47:01,672
can can't, like, give us

1206
00:47:02,365 --> 00:47:05,070
peace, real piece. Yeah. But nobody can give

1207
00:47:05,070 --> 00:47:05,570
us

1208
00:47:06,025 --> 00:47:06,525
anything

1209
00:47:07,378 --> 00:47:07,878
bad

1210
00:47:08,253 --> 00:47:08,753
situations

1211
00:47:09,856 --> 00:47:12,315
can be washed away from our, like,

1212
00:47:13,425 --> 00:47:14,560
memory even

1213
00:47:14,932 --> 00:47:16,598
because of the tournament of jesus described.

1214
00:47:17,407 --> 00:47:19,789
And I knew he can keep doing this

1215
00:47:19,789 --> 00:47:21,321
for me and for each

1216
00:47:21,695 --> 00:47:22,092
child,

1217
00:47:23,283 --> 00:47:25,213
of heavenly father, who

1218
00:47:25,586 --> 00:47:26,086
will

1219
00:47:27,352 --> 00:47:30,224
open their heart to him. He can do

1220
00:47:30,224 --> 00:47:32,697
this. So Elder O do, if you're listening,

1221
00:47:33,335 --> 00:47:35,909
perhaps sister Sis y did not take your

1222
00:47:35,909 --> 00:47:37,670
counsel to learn English when she was a

1223
00:47:37,670 --> 00:47:40,389
missionary. So you can see, she follows your

1224
00:47:40,389 --> 00:47:42,309
counsel. She's learned English now.

1225
00:47:43,523 --> 00:47:46,477
Through much trial and tribulation, she's there. And,

1226
00:47:47,275 --> 00:47:49,031
thank you so much, Marsha for joining us

1227
00:47:49,111 --> 00:47:51,665
Listener. If you have any comments or anything

1228
00:47:51,665 --> 00:47:53,280
you'd like share with us, please reach out

1229
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:55,519
to us at contact at this week in

1230
00:47:55,519 --> 00:47:56,480
mormons dot com.

1231
00:47:57,039 --> 00:47:58,880
And if there's somebody like us to interview,

1232
00:47:59,039 --> 00:48:01,124
let us know. And we will talk to

1233
00:48:01,124 --> 00:48:04,139
you next week. Thanks, everybody. Thank you, Masha.

1234
00:48:04,695 --> 00:48:07,233
Thank you, guys. Thank you so much. For

1235
00:48:07,233 --> 00:48:08,759
inviting me. Feel so facial.