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Hello, and welcome everybody to this week in

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Mormons,

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a Twin sibling

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interview edition.

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Well, Matt, Professional. I I feel like, Garrett,

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I need to explain. We'll say T and

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not twin. Sometimes people think the Melissa and

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I are twin siblings, but T is This

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week in Mormons, it's our afternoon.

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Okay. Some it's not the same then. Yeah.

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We're not twins, but we are Irish siblings

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Were 10 months apart. Okay. Yes. Yeah. Very

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close age.

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My my 2 oldest are 8 months apart.

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Wow. Alright. Are they adopted?

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Okay. I always leave that off a little

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bit and she say. Wow.

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And that's hey... It's okay because they have

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different mothers. And that's really really confused.

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That's a that's a good opener. Yeah. Matt

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has 2 sons that are this in the

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same grade. And, yeah. They were both adopted

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as well. So that's why I I jumped

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to that. I jumped back in very quick.

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What was it?

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And then our oldest son, we adopted him.

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The way I would introduce myself at, like,

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steak events when I wanted to make sure

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I didn't get a calling. I would say,

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4 months before our oldest son was born.

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Or something like that to were like wait.

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I mean, 4 months, I don't know. It's

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just a... Let me think. We were sealed

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2 months after he was born. That's right.

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I got a backwards.

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Lazy it raises an eyebrow.

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That's right. Whenever there's a new stake president,

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and I make sure they know that there's

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that that's part of my history. Hey. So

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listeners, we have with us today, Garrett Bad.

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He is... I'm gonna just call you a

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because I know nothing about the industry and

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I don't know how to be more specific

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than that. Is that... Is that what you

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consider yourself a filmmaker? Yeah. That's great.

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Well Ge, I noticed when I, you know,

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did my really good research on you that

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write the screen plays,

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as well as producing and directing. Most of

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your movies, at least that's what it looked

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like. Is that right? Yes.

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So you take on all the jobs. I

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I do. It's a good way to save

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a lot of money and the lot stress.

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K. So I'm I'm familiar with 2 of

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your previous movies, the Sur approach? And then

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is it called Free tale, the 1 about

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the African saints?

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Yes. The missionaries in Africa.

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So you wrote those you wrote those and

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directed them and produce them. So so top

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approach, yes. I rode record producers

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produced free town.

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c wrote with Melissa Larson, who is an

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incredible play right. And I just loved that

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experience and she was gracious enough to let

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me join her in writing that film.

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Wow And then name jump some of your

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other movies that you've done.

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I did. Well,

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name drop. There's gotta be some sort of

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recognition with name dropping. Right? Otherwise.

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I did a movie about Liberty Jail called

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out of Liberty.

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cool, like, it's a western style. So historical

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movie, but it's set in out of in

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And then, faith of Angels is coming out,

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And then in November, I have a new

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So we'll wow. I'm happy to talk about

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Okay. Another episode, but this 1 is faith

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of Angels. But, yeah, We're we're excited to

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talk to you about your,

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upcoming movie for sure. I... Just... So the

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listeners know. I did just recently finish watching

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it, and it is.

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Absolutely my favorite 1 you've done. And I've...

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I've seen all your other ones, but this

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this topped everything. There were so many good

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the cinematography. It's a beautiful move. Be. Frankly.

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Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. Was... I mean, we

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up in Utah and we'll talk about what

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it's about. But, yes,

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our Dp is... Be was Ryan Little, and

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you would recognize his work.

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He directed and shot the Saints and shoulders,

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Saint Okay. Series and it's just a dear

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friend and was gracious enough to come and

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be a part of this 1 as well.

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Oh, that's awesome. So I have a question.

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Oh, go ahead, Listen. Okay. Well, I was

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just gonna say, Garrett that

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I noticed in this movie. You've got some

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of the top, I... What I would... What

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Kirby born.

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he plays a dad and man. It's fun

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to see Kirby in that role. He's he

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does an excellent job.

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couple of your films, I think. Me and

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Matt actually grew up with Jason. Do you

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remember Jason

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Factor I care about. He grew...

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up across the street from us, and and

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and he does a phenomenal job in it

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too, but... But, yeah, you got you got

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yourself, you know, the main hit in L

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be able to work with so many wonderful.

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think in

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out of Liberty, we had a stacked cast

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with, you know, Jason and Cor red and,

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each 1 of my films have had the

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chance to work with

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you know, a name brand,

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to be able to get so many wonderful

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friends to come back and play for a

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couple of weeks, and then surround them with,

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John Michael Finley is from the movie. I

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can only imagine, which is, yes. A wonderful

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movie and John was great to come that.

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in some incredible faith based films. And has

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the Forge.

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say that, like, yeah, you got to work

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with them. But I think really, if I

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look at your history... You kind of made

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these actors. Like, you did a good job

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in in in creating the fame of these

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actors with a lot of the work you've

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done with them. You wanna take credit for

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that? 3

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I'll I'll take credit for anything so your

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credit work.

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you know, it's... I love hanging out with

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these guys and they're dear friends and the

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fact that we get to make movies together

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is it adds to it. So

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It's in a fun journey with them. And

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who played the the young boy in faith

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of Angels? So that's an actor named Michael

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Bradford. And before I get into this, I

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should... You probably may just give an overview

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of what the movie... Yeah. Let's do. Yeah.

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Go ahead. Right. And then Yeah. And then

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we'll answer your question, So, yes. Faith of

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Angels. It's a true story based on a

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true story I kinda gravitate towards those,

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about a young boy.

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Who goes missing in and abandoned the mine,

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back in in the mountains of Utah.

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mile, you know, 500 miles away.

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connected to the family at all or to

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the boy, and he receives this prompting this

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spiritual voice talking to him,

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telling him to

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go to Utah doesn't necessarily know why,

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when he finally arrives to Utah,

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he he learns that there's a boy lost

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in a mine and he feels like he's

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supposed to be

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helpful in leading the search effort for him.

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what happens in these in this search as

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a community out pouring to to race against

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the clock and find this boy that that

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is missing, and and a man who's trying

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his own involvement in that and and and

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why he's receiving these

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kind of prompting.

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not just his kind of trying to understand

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his feelings, but a lot of the key

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players in the movie, it seems like are

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addressing the same kind of thing. Like, do

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I have faith? What does that mean, you

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know, including the family, including the boy that

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it happened to? And and I think it's

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really inspiring that way?

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good movie. Like, it's really

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it's it's really enjoyable and fun to watch.

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Which you wouldn't think, you know, a boy

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going missing and a mind story. Oh my

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goodness.

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Pause.

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The last mine story, I made my kids

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watch they cried themselves to sleep. It was

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that 1 about the Nutty Putt caves.

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Remember that 1?

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You remember that 1. You. This isn't like

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that.

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Movie... But a yeah. A different outcome different

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outcome. No. That was 1 of the things

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that drew me to this movie is this,

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that faith element and this element of, but

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angels. You know, as I spoke with,

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those that were involved, there were many, many

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accounts of

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like actual kind angelic interactions or or prompting,

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never a a visual of an angel, but

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certainly a a voice or a feeling or

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you know, this comfort or

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whatever it is that that angels were involved,

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and that's what that's what drew me to

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this.

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actors that came on board and said Yeah.

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These are important stories to tell.

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So were you a a child when this

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story happened? I know what it happened in

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the eighties.

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Yes. Yeah. That's that's very kind way to

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phrase that.

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Not what I was getting at, Garrett. No,

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that's kidding. I'm a... Yeah. I'm from the

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19 hundreds. Well, I was just trying to

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remember... Like, I I feel like I kind

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of remembered this story happening. Like, I I

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kinda, like, kind of remembered it. But, yeah,

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I just wondered if... Yeah, if that was

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just kind of the time you grew up

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in. No, yes. That is time I grew

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up, but I didn't know about the story.

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I wasn't aware of it.

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And I...

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But but so many people are. I mean,

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we... You mentioned the story of Josh Dennis

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being found in the mine.

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And anybody,

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you know, who's as young as me,

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remembers it. If there's vivid memories of it

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and says, you know, and and it became

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a national news store. We got

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president

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Bush at the time,

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president of the United States,

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says this story is evidence that miracles happen.

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Yeah... And I mean, that's an impactful

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nationwide

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news story. That was interesting to me too.

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I think now a on,

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national news,

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you know, the term miracle wouldn't necessarily be

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used. And if it is, it's sometimes

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mocked.

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Right. Or or we just shy away from

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that. And I think, boy, if we could

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ignite that conversation again and say, yes, miracles

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are happening,

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everyday Angels are facilitating,

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you know,

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these

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unique une

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miracles

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to help us see the hand of God

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in our lives.

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And it was evident in talking with

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everybody involved with this story that that's what

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they were able to see.

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So is that where you start is like,

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you hear about a story? And then is

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that how you start with your writing? Is

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just interviewing people?

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Yes.

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For the... For these based on a true

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story, Yes.

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I was... I directed

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an sold for the churches

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book of Mormon series. Okay. These movies that

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just came out.

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Yeah. The the the norma videos. And,

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is somebody that's connected with the Dentist family,

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reached out? They they were an extra in

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that series,

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and they reached out to the producers of

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that series and, hey, would you you know,

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my... The here's here's an amazing story about

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my family, would you be interested in telling.

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And and they go the producers didn't... Don't

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do that type of content,

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you know, narrative, feature film content. But fortunately,

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they they said, you know, here's...

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Here's a guy named Garrett, and he's

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that's britain and would probably wanna do the

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story.

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And

348
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Yes. And so that's how I came across

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it? She she called me and said, would

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you be interested in doing this? And I

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do get a lot of those calls and

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and,

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sometimes, I feel like my job as a

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producers to determine if if that's a good

355
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story for a family reunion or

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nationwide audience.

357
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Oh, yeah. And this 1 immediately resonated with

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me. Okay. That's that's when I wanna spend

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the next 2 or 3 years of my

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life being well with

361
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Wow.

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It's amazing that you get to do this

363
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for your job. Like, when you decided you

364
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wanted to, make movies. Is this the kind

365
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of movie that you knew you were gonna

366
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be making? Is this what you wanted to

367
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do?

368
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I didn't...

369
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That's a great question. And in the at

370
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the end ended... I mean, I got, Melissa.

371
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Yeah. That's it. That's it. Yeah. I can

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wrap up after this.

373
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No. I mean, I I always knew... I

374
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was going to be a filmmaker. That's what

375
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I always wanted to do since fifth grade,

376
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I did a report on...

377
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Filmmakers or or Tv or whatever was and

378
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just never really gave myself any other options.

379
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That's just what I felt like I should

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be doing,

381
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And

382
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but so after films... You know, after my

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mission, and I went to film school

384
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at By, Got my film great by. And

385
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then,

386
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immediately moved out to Los Angeles and was

387
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pursuing

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pursuing filmmaking out there. And so

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these types of stories, you know, that the

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L or,

391
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I mean, this is a faith based movies

392
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is not

393
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exclusively Elias.

394
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But these Faith based movies weren't...

395
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Really, on on my radar or I I

396
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don't think on any,

397
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theater goers radar.

398
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And it was about the time that I

399
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was out there that,

400
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God's army it came out and that was

401
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impactful, and I thought that's

402
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interesting. I can see

403
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there's a there's an audience for this and

404
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and a power behind these types of movies.

405
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And

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I immediately became involved

407
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in this... In that type of storytelling.

408
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How does the distribution work like, do you

409
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make the movie and then try to sell

410
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it to people

411
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if if you do it backwards, yes,

412
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which which I've done. I guess That's why

413
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I can say that. So the... I mean,

414
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it's... It

415
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there... It's a...

416
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Yeah.

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The short answer is, no, ideally, you would

418
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love to have a distributor as involved

419
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involved as early as

420
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as you can

421
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on this type of movie. You'd like to

422
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have them backing it and supporting it. That

423
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is not always

424
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the case,

425
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is sometimes it's hard to convince a distributor

426
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to get behind a

427
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a niche title like this or

428
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sometimes you sacrifice

429
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creative,

430
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your own creative voice by adding a lot

431
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of other,

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voices.

433
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And so it's...

434
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It comes in at at different phases. But,

435
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yes, ultimately, the idea is to

436
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get get a distributor involved in the story

437
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early

438
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so that

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they they know what they're releasing and they're

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committed to to releasing in theaters.

441
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With this movie, with faith of Angels,

442
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we we pursued this, I I pursued this

443
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completely independently. It's independently funded, and

444
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Wow. Very fortunate to have the support of

445
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of

446
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you know, an independent

447
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Back, who said, yeah. We'll try 1. And

448
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and now, we are releasing this in theaters

449
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independently. So we're working with a distributor who

450
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has done

451
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my films in the past,

452
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and so Have a great relationship with them,

453
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but they've committed to put it in,

454
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in any theaters that we request,

455
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So now our now our focus is to

456
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hear find and and find the voice of

457
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the audience

458
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who wants to see it in theaters.

459
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So we're doing right now a kickstarter campaign

460
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to

461
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so that people can go and say, yes.

462
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I'm in Memphis, and I'd like to see

463
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the movie and here's a donation.

464
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And, you know, as the just come in,

465
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we'll know where to take it.

466
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Well, what's... Oh, wow.

467
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So... Yeah. That's fantastic. And, by the way,

468
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what would be the kitchen starter, People wanted

469
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to find it.

470
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So it's... Yeah. If you go to Kickstarter,

471
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we'll have to put a link in there

472
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that we can put you know, and slashes

473
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and everything like that.

474
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Yeah. It's bring faith of Angels to theaters.

475
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Wow. And he just launched it on July

476
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15.

477
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And it'll be going until August fifteenth. So,

478
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yeah. So if you do have listeners,

479
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that wanna help get this in the theaters,

480
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that's how we get to do this 1.

481
00:17:05,123 --> 00:17:06,560
So it seems to me like there are

482
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big moments in this kind of genre of

483
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movies. You mentioned God's army. I think that's

484
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1 of them the sort of kind of

485
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ignited a lot of of films in the

486
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genre. And then it seems to me like,

487
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last summer or sound free might have been

488
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another kind of point like that we're where

489
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people outside the church might have said, wait

490
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a minute There's money to be made in

491
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this. Am I right in that? Is that

492
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kinda of what happened with sound of freedom?

493
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Does it make it easier to make movies

494
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like yours?

495
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I

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good,

497
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yes.

498
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Sure. No. I think that there are phases

499
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and tidal waves and

500
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I think a niche market

501
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certain has ebb and flows in any any

502
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niche market, you know, and Hollywood would do

503
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that and say, hey, right now is a

504
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great time for Western.

505
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And so, you know, 1 does well, you

506
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get

507
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back in the nineties, you get unforgiving that

508
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does well and then suddenly, there's a slew

509
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of Western that do well until some don't.

510
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We just are coming out of the superhero

511
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marvel movie

512
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Craze, where for 22 films.

513
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They've done well and so they're starting to

514
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Peter off. And now if you try to

515
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go get a a superhero movie funded in

516
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hollywood, they

517
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show you the door.

518
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And until the timing and tell somebody will

519
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come together because come around, you know, with

520
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a sound of freedom type movie and it'll

521
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do well. And everybody say, oh, So what

522
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is that? Is it faith based? Is it

523
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child trafficking movies? What what are doing well

524
00:18:29,712 --> 00:18:30,669
and let's figure that out.

525
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It does help Matt. It it certainly does

526
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the success of an independent film. Certainly helps

527
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that people feel confident in in trying it

528
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again in, trying another 1. Yeah.

529
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But Garrett, I would think that you and

530
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it you can correct me on. But I

531
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would think that you're at the point in

532
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your career when you say, I have an

533
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idea and I have a movie that that

534
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people trust you and and they say, yeah,

535
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Go for it. Garrett. You you have a

536
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good history.

537
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Spend out home movie be making works? Should.

538
00:19:02,732 --> 00:19:04,269
Right? Is this seems like.

539
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In every movie, it's... We... I mean, it's

540
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a risk. It's

541
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Are you talking about...

542
00:19:12,781 --> 00:19:14,474
Let's see. I I don't wanna downplay

543
00:19:15,023 --> 00:19:17,805
what you're saying Was, yes, I'm very fortunate

544
00:19:17,805 --> 00:19:19,792
to have an audience that has responded well

545
00:19:19,792 --> 00:19:21,405
to my movies and so

546
00:19:22,908 --> 00:19:24,979
you know, a distributor says, we have to

547
00:19:24,979 --> 00:19:26,571
make sure and put your name on this

548
00:19:26,571 --> 00:19:28,244
because people will go to it. And that's...

549
00:19:28,482 --> 00:19:29,916
I I don't take that lightly. I don't

550
00:19:29,996 --> 00:19:31,111
I hope I don't take that for granted.

551
00:19:31,524 --> 00:19:33,200
I don't necessarily trusted all the way. But

552
00:19:34,078 --> 00:19:35,914
but yes, that is a good thing. It

553
00:19:35,914 --> 00:19:37,851
is not a first time like an unknown

554
00:19:37,910 --> 00:19:39,426
entity. That being said,

555
00:19:40,477 --> 00:19:42,459
every single movie is a risk. And

556
00:19:43,410 --> 00:19:45,709
so in order to, like, find an investment

557
00:19:45,709 --> 00:19:47,295
or find a back or find a distributor,

558
00:19:48,737 --> 00:19:50,798
nobody has ever made the next movie that

559
00:19:50,877 --> 00:19:52,701
I'm trying to make before. So there's no

560
00:19:52,701 --> 00:19:54,683
like concept except for it or anything like

561
00:19:54,683 --> 00:19:54,841
that.

562
00:19:55,969 --> 00:19:56,209
Yeah.

563
00:19:56,848 --> 00:19:59,484
Interesting. Question that's kind of related to the

564
00:19:59,484 --> 00:20:02,520
creative process and how people receive your work.

565
00:20:02,934 --> 00:20:05,255
So I do a lot of academic writing,

566
00:20:05,654 --> 00:20:07,255
and there's things that I write that I

567
00:20:07,255 --> 00:20:09,734
just love, and I'm so proud of, and

568
00:20:09,734 --> 00:20:11,423
my family hates it. And I don't really...

569
00:20:11,820 --> 00:20:14,595
It's sub boring. Listen. It's so boring. I

570
00:20:14,595 --> 00:20:16,656
don't... And I'm I'm proud of you, Matt,

571
00:20:16,894 --> 00:20:18,654
but I'm not gonna rate it. And and

572
00:20:18,734 --> 00:20:20,250
I don't... And I don't care because they're

573
00:20:20,250 --> 00:20:22,826
not my intended audience. But then there sometimes

574
00:20:22,965 --> 00:20:24,721
like, there's stuff that I do that I'm

575
00:20:24,721 --> 00:20:26,716
not that proud of, and everybody just loves

576
00:20:26,716 --> 00:20:27,569
and thinks it's the best,

577
00:20:28,167 --> 00:20:29,919
and I I don't quite know how to

578
00:20:29,919 --> 00:20:31,033
respond to that? Because I'm like,

579
00:20:32,308 --> 00:20:35,095
but, do you... Not to, like, be specific

580
00:20:35,095 --> 00:20:37,495
about any movies, but is there something about

581
00:20:37,495 --> 00:20:39,320
creating movies that is that same way to

582
00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,145
you or you're like, this is my baby,

583
00:20:41,462 --> 00:20:43,605
I made it, and I kinda care how

584
00:20:43,605 --> 00:20:45,686
people respond to it? And then is there

585
00:20:45,686 --> 00:20:46,802
maybe a part of where you're, like, I

586
00:20:46,802 --> 00:20:48,236
really don't care how people respond.

587
00:20:49,669 --> 00:20:51,581
Sure. Sure. I think that that I think

588
00:20:51,581 --> 00:20:53,573
that that exists. I mean, for these independent

589
00:20:53,573 --> 00:20:53,892
films.

590
00:20:54,543 --> 00:20:56,525
They are, yeah. They are my my...

591
00:20:57,793 --> 00:20:59,061
You know, you put your hard and soul

592
00:20:59,061 --> 00:21:01,044
into it, and you're hopeful that an audience

593
00:21:01,044 --> 00:21:03,358
will respond to it. There are certain elements.

594
00:21:03,517 --> 00:21:05,579
I mean, throughout the entire process,

595
00:21:06,134 --> 00:21:08,356
you, I have to consider the audience. And

596
00:21:08,435 --> 00:21:09,625
I might say, oh, well, this...

597
00:21:10,434 --> 00:21:12,111
This sure is interesting or this might be

598
00:21:12,111 --> 00:21:13,569
fun or funny or

599
00:21:14,027 --> 00:21:16,582
whatever. But I mean, ultimately, if it doesn't

600
00:21:16,582 --> 00:21:19,057
resonate with the audience, then it... It's my

601
00:21:19,057 --> 00:21:19,935
last movie I get to make.

602
00:21:21,545 --> 00:21:23,619
Sure. So so there is that. The there

603
00:21:23,619 --> 00:21:25,932
is... So, yeah. The audience is still sort

604
00:21:25,932 --> 00:21:26,432
of

605
00:21:28,245 --> 00:21:29,282
I I have to serve them.

606
00:21:30,412 --> 00:21:32,082
But at the same time, yes, artistic and

607
00:21:32,082 --> 00:21:34,626
creatively, it's very fulfilling I'm very hopeful that

608
00:21:34,785 --> 00:21:37,807
I can still kinda interject my voice and...

609
00:21:38,298 --> 00:21:40,043
Here's what I took from this story and

610
00:21:40,122 --> 00:21:41,787
I hope that that resonates with an audience.

611
00:21:42,342 --> 00:21:44,561
And, fortunately, it it has. If I if

612
00:21:44,641 --> 00:21:45,116
I do it Right?

613
00:21:46,084 --> 00:21:48,719
I also have, you know, the... My wife

614
00:21:48,719 --> 00:21:50,395
says, look, you can do 1 passion project

615
00:21:50,395 --> 00:21:51,912
and 1, you have to do 1 paying

616
00:21:51,912 --> 00:21:54,785
project 1 passion money. Right? So... Yes. There

617
00:21:54,785 --> 00:21:55,025
are those...

618
00:21:55,839 --> 00:21:58,000
You know, jobs that I do Is was

619
00:21:58,000 --> 00:21:59,599
like, hey, I'm here. I'm at work for

620
00:21:59,599 --> 00:21:59,920
hire.

621
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:01,759
I'm gonna do this is

622
00:22:03,212 --> 00:22:06,320
Tv episode or whatever it is. And if

623
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:07,754
we... If I can make it better, great,

624
00:22:08,073 --> 00:22:09,768
but I'm not gonna lose sleep over

625
00:22:11,194 --> 00:22:11,671
you know, what...

626
00:22:12,864 --> 00:22:14,694
In inevitably way is somebody else's creation.

627
00:22:15,967 --> 00:22:16,603
Sure. Yeah.

628
00:22:17,815 --> 00:22:20,454
Garrett, I... I'm also kind of interested in

629
00:22:20,454 --> 00:22:23,414
filmmaking in Utah. You said you graduated from

630
00:22:23,494 --> 00:22:25,815
Brick Mountain University. They're well known for their

631
00:22:25,815 --> 00:22:28,377
filmed department, their animation department, things like that.

632
00:22:28,615 --> 00:22:31,638
But it seems like since you've sort of

633
00:22:31,638 --> 00:22:33,014
taken off in your career

634
00:22:33,723 --> 00:22:36,116
Utah has become kind of a a movie

635
00:22:36,116 --> 00:22:36,913
making spot.

636
00:22:37,631 --> 00:22:38,769
Are things change

637
00:22:39,306 --> 00:22:41,619
the fact that you're able to create and

638
00:22:41,619 --> 00:22:44,265
produce movies in Utah are things changing in,

639
00:22:44,345 --> 00:22:46,178
you know, the students coming out of college

640
00:22:46,178 --> 00:22:48,251
and what their capacity to be able to

641
00:22:48,251 --> 00:22:50,562
do in this area is? I I think

642
00:22:50,562 --> 00:22:53,313
so. And... And I'm not affiliated with any

643
00:22:54,571 --> 00:22:56,728
school program at all at the current you

644
00:22:56,728 --> 00:22:59,206
know love opportunity to go back and teach

645
00:22:59,206 --> 00:22:59,765
or or...

646
00:23:00,977 --> 00:23:01,375
Whatever,

647
00:23:02,729 --> 00:23:03,287
be involved.

648
00:23:04,482 --> 00:23:07,907
But, yes. I I... The the film industry

649
00:23:07,907 --> 00:23:11,030
in Utah in general is is incredible. We

650
00:23:11,030 --> 00:23:12,307
have amazing cruise,

651
00:23:13,024 --> 00:23:15,417
and I think that that does give credit

652
00:23:15,417 --> 00:23:15,917
to

653
00:23:16,454 --> 00:23:19,006
the film programs of By or Uv you

654
00:23:19,006 --> 00:23:21,249
or even utah University of Utah Utah state.

655
00:23:21,727 --> 00:23:23,238
Just incredible crews and opportunities.

656
00:23:24,034 --> 00:23:25,465
There are a lot of hands on programs.

657
00:23:25,545 --> 00:23:27,397
You wanna say, hey, how can we

658
00:23:28,662 --> 00:23:28,979
you know,

659
00:23:29,931 --> 00:23:32,073
how can we learn the equipment better or

660
00:23:32,073 --> 00:23:33,422
learn the production or learn what it's like

661
00:23:33,422 --> 00:23:35,802
on a set? I think those opportunities really

662
00:23:35,802 --> 00:23:36,619
exist really

663
00:23:37,089 --> 00:23:37,589
nicely

664
00:23:37,890 --> 00:23:39,990
in Utah. I was I was grateful that,

665
00:23:40,210 --> 00:23:41,890
you know, having gone to By and thought,

666
00:23:42,049 --> 00:23:44,049
I'm okay. Is that gonna that gonna limit

667
00:23:44,049 --> 00:23:45,329
me out in la and but

668
00:23:45,904 --> 00:23:47,659
But as as you pointed out, there's a

669
00:23:47,659 --> 00:23:48,318
there's a

670
00:23:48,696 --> 00:23:51,408
reputation, a good reputation for... Oh, you went

671
00:23:51,408 --> 00:23:53,721
to, your film degree from By. Great. There's

672
00:23:53,721 --> 00:23:55,555
a level of experience and a level of

673
00:23:55,555 --> 00:23:57,318
respect for for that degree.

674
00:23:58,112 --> 00:24:00,255
So I was grateful for that. But when

675
00:24:00,255 --> 00:24:01,843
utah, I think the film industry's booming, it's

676
00:24:01,843 --> 00:24:04,304
not just church films, and not just spiritual

677
00:24:04,304 --> 00:24:04,542
films.

678
00:24:05,114 --> 00:24:07,991
We do so many wonderful, hallmark,

679
00:24:08,550 --> 00:24:10,648
movies, and Christmas movies, and,

680
00:24:11,028 --> 00:24:12,626
I mean, you've got Kevin Ko and Taylor

681
00:24:12,705 --> 00:24:15,828
Sheridan, who are... Doing horizons in Yellowstone and,

682
00:24:16,784 --> 00:24:17,023
you know,

683
00:24:17,818 --> 00:24:19,808
Apple Tv shoots up here. There's a Utah

684
00:24:19,808 --> 00:24:21,162
film studios up in Park City,

685
00:24:22,373 --> 00:24:23,810
there's an abundance of work.

686
00:24:24,449 --> 00:24:26,125
I I stay that at. Probably there's any

687
00:24:26,125 --> 00:24:28,520
any crew member listening going. Oh, how we

688
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:28,759
find.

689
00:24:30,595 --> 00:24:33,730
But but, yeah, I it's a great industry

690
00:24:33,730 --> 00:24:33,890
here.

691
00:24:35,089 --> 00:24:36,549
What of filmmaking is,

692
00:24:37,329 --> 00:24:39,250
networking and getting to know people because I

693
00:24:39,250 --> 00:24:39,990
would imagine

694
00:24:41,098 --> 00:24:42,948
despite all the things you learned at By,

695
00:24:43,322 --> 00:24:45,307
it's not like you graduate from By and

696
00:24:45,307 --> 00:24:48,030
the film industry says, welcome to the film

697
00:24:48,086 --> 00:24:50,327
industry, here you go like, Isn't it a

698
00:24:50,327 --> 00:24:50,885
lot of it like,

699
00:24:51,762 --> 00:24:54,392
starting somewhere and building a network. Matt, I

700
00:24:54,392 --> 00:24:56,146
wish you could have told me that, and

701
00:24:56,226 --> 00:24:56,965
I got

702
00:24:57,581 --> 00:25:00,151
because I I went to B, Film school

703
00:25:00,151 --> 00:25:01,850
and looked around. I remember

704
00:25:02,228 --> 00:25:04,865
sitting kinda in my intro film classes and

705
00:25:05,518 --> 00:25:07,112
I'm thinking, yeah. I kinda know what Doing.

706
00:25:07,271 --> 00:25:09,423
I've already... You know, I've already made 3

707
00:25:09,423 --> 00:25:11,416
videos or whatever it was, you know? And

708
00:25:11,576 --> 00:25:13,170
I look around, none of these people are...

709
00:25:13,424 --> 00:25:15,582
Filmmakers in here. They're, like, all barely learning.

710
00:25:15,742 --> 00:25:17,819
You know, actually, they're probably thinking the exact

711
00:25:17,819 --> 00:25:18,778
same thing about me.

712
00:25:20,056 --> 00:25:21,989
And so I went to La as quickly

713
00:25:21,989 --> 00:25:23,507
like I could. I graduated in 3 years

714
00:25:23,507 --> 00:25:25,425
and just like, went to la, not knowing

715
00:25:25,425 --> 00:25:26,165
a soul

716
00:25:26,544 --> 00:25:28,222
and thinking, okay. Now,

717
00:25:28,861 --> 00:25:31,029
you know, I'm here you know, I'll be

718
00:25:31,029 --> 00:25:33,571
an executive in a couple years, like,

719
00:25:34,445 --> 00:25:37,623
glow world. And, yeah, nothing came up. My

720
00:25:37,623 --> 00:25:38,258
first gig,

721
00:25:38,988 --> 00:25:40,654
came at 3 months after La,

722
00:25:42,083 --> 00:25:43,987
after being in La knocking doors every day,

723
00:25:44,542 --> 00:25:45,177
3 months

724
00:25:46,303 --> 00:25:47,519
a guy in my ward

725
00:25:47,894 --> 00:25:49,326
gave me a job as an editor.

726
00:25:50,122 --> 00:25:52,508
And, which was very, very grateful for. And

727
00:25:52,508 --> 00:25:53,861
that was my skill and Like, okay. I'll

728
00:25:53,861 --> 00:25:55,788
do this editing for a while. And love

729
00:25:55,788 --> 00:25:56,346
that. And did that.

730
00:25:57,144 --> 00:25:59,140
When I started making films,

731
00:25:59,778 --> 00:26:02,333
Matt, I mean, I mentioned Melissa Larson was

732
00:26:02,333 --> 00:26:05,056
my screen partner. She sat next to me

733
00:26:05,056 --> 00:26:06,033
in my By

734
00:26:06,407 --> 00:26:07,122
screen night class.

735
00:26:08,632 --> 00:26:11,016
So, yes. It's a long answer to say,

736
00:26:11,414 --> 00:26:12,288
a long way to say, yes.

737
00:26:13,019 --> 00:26:13,759
It is

738
00:26:15,176 --> 00:26:17,094
highly dependent on networking.

739
00:26:17,653 --> 00:26:19,331
And now when I talk to students in

740
00:26:19,331 --> 00:26:20,210
class of students,

741
00:26:20,783 --> 00:26:22,852
and say look around because these are the

742
00:26:22,852 --> 00:26:25,080
people you'll be making films with. There's a

743
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:26,990
there's a talented Dp in here that's gonna

744
00:26:26,990 --> 00:26:27,649
be shooting

745
00:26:28,278 --> 00:26:30,903
Hollywood caliber films in the next 10 years,

746
00:26:31,301 --> 00:26:32,414
build a relationship with them.

747
00:26:33,210 --> 00:26:35,278
And and so forth an editor or a

748
00:26:35,278 --> 00:26:36,232
writer or whatever it is.

749
00:26:37,044 --> 00:26:38,720
How many times did your family members tell

750
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,396
you you were crazy for studying film.

751
00:26:42,551 --> 00:26:44,866
Yeah. I I was fortunate. I certainly have

752
00:26:44,866 --> 00:26:46,953
heard that. From people. I I know that

753
00:26:46,953 --> 00:26:47,750
that is a sentiment.

754
00:26:48,307 --> 00:26:50,538
Fortunate, have very very supportive parents. I think

755
00:26:50,538 --> 00:26:52,211
my my dad, you know,

756
00:26:52,865 --> 00:26:55,424
help me buy my first camera in eighth

757
00:26:55,424 --> 00:26:57,025
grade or something, and and so I was

758
00:26:57,025 --> 00:26:58,625
great great for that. My mom,

759
00:26:59,744 --> 00:27:01,744
we we... We have an inside joke that,

760
00:27:02,398 --> 00:27:04,940
she she was a flight attendant, Southwest flight

761
00:27:04,940 --> 00:27:07,958
attendant for her career. And it wasn't until...

762
00:27:08,275 --> 00:27:09,705
I mean, it... Even during...

763
00:27:10,833 --> 00:27:11,811
You know, Ce

764
00:27:12,665 --> 00:27:13,462
Sa approach,

765
00:27:14,179 --> 00:27:15,932
it it took off people people saw that

766
00:27:15,932 --> 00:27:18,641
and recognize it. And but, I mean, even

767
00:27:18,641 --> 00:27:20,569
until 5 or 10 years ago. When she

768
00:27:20,569 --> 00:27:22,027
was retired. She would still,

769
00:27:23,283 --> 00:27:25,198
you know, say, oh, and my my son

770
00:27:25,198 --> 00:27:26,795
is... He's trying to get into the film

771
00:27:26,795 --> 00:27:26,954
industry.

772
00:27:28,551 --> 00:27:28,711
Like,

773
00:27:29,364 --> 00:27:30,634
how much more I can do to get

774
00:27:30,634 --> 00:27:31,134
in

775
00:27:32,301 --> 00:27:32,778
the films.

776
00:27:33,889 --> 00:27:35,080
Thanks, mom. That's alright.

777
00:27:35,794 --> 00:27:37,461
We are we laugh about that.

778
00:27:38,509 --> 00:27:39,009
Yeah

779
00:27:40,333 --> 00:27:40,730
Can we,

780
00:27:41,444 --> 00:27:43,769
circle back? Sorry. This is a long circle

781
00:27:44,142 --> 00:27:46,522
to the... You gonna tell us about the...

782
00:27:47,330 --> 00:27:49,869
Actor who played the young man in the...

783
00:27:50,900 --> 00:27:53,043
Yeah. Angel movie. I'm sorry. I lost the

784
00:27:53,043 --> 00:27:54,947
name of Angel angels. Thank you. Thank you.

785
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,169
Yeah. So this was fun. This guy, this

786
00:27:58,227 --> 00:27:59,422
kid, I've known him

787
00:28:00,298 --> 00:28:01,174
his entire life.

788
00:28:01,891 --> 00:28:04,773
He's my... So, like, 10:12 years? Yeah. So

789
00:28:04,932 --> 00:28:05,750
Michael Bradford

790
00:28:06,285 --> 00:28:08,696
is his screen name and he

791
00:28:09,231 --> 00:28:10,106
auditioned for the movie.

792
00:28:10,758 --> 00:28:13,142
And just like, you know, everybody how for

793
00:28:13,142 --> 00:28:15,765
the movie. And the... And this... It's it

794
00:28:15,765 --> 00:28:17,434
doesn't spoil the movie, but it's suppose the

795
00:28:17,434 --> 00:28:19,023
fun that he... He's my son.

796
00:28:20,315 --> 00:28:20,815
No,

797
00:28:21,275 --> 00:28:23,674
really. I love that reaction. I love that

798
00:28:23,674 --> 00:28:23,835
reaction.

799
00:28:24,475 --> 00:28:26,955
No. He's he's talented. He was so good.

800
00:28:27,115 --> 00:28:28,555
That's why I wanted to know about him

801
00:28:28,555 --> 00:28:28,955
specifically.

802
00:28:29,367 --> 00:28:31,927
Wow. Thank you. Yes. Yep. So

803
00:28:32,457 --> 00:28:34,834
he's... You know, he and I were excited

804
00:28:34,834 --> 00:28:35,943
about doing this film.

805
00:28:36,671 --> 00:28:39,367
Together. And I... And this has been a...

806
00:28:39,923 --> 00:28:42,302
Honestly, a once in lifetime opportunity because you

807
00:28:42,302 --> 00:28:42,857
don't get to do...

808
00:28:43,808 --> 00:28:45,411
I mean, Who don't yeah.

809
00:28:46,602 --> 00:28:48,508
But, you know, I said, okay. So Michael,

810
00:28:48,746 --> 00:28:50,017
here's this story about a 10 year old

811
00:28:50,017 --> 00:28:51,605
boy that's lost and you're kinda in that

812
00:28:51,605 --> 00:28:53,606
age and Know he wanted to do acting.

813
00:28:54,242 --> 00:28:55,594
Is this something you'd wanna do. He said,

814
00:28:55,674 --> 00:28:55,912
yes,

815
00:28:56,866 --> 00:28:58,695
he... My... He's 12,

816
00:28:59,172 --> 00:29:00,126
he was 12 when we filmed.

817
00:29:00,699 --> 00:29:01,976
But he said, I would like to do

818
00:29:01,976 --> 00:29:03,034
it, Dad, but

819
00:29:03,412 --> 00:29:05,646
I don't want to do it because I'm

820
00:29:05,646 --> 00:29:07,881
the director's kid. Like, I wanna do it.

821
00:29:08,692 --> 00:29:10,997
Because I've earned the part. And I just

822
00:29:10,997 --> 00:29:12,848
confirmed that wisdom. And so

823
00:29:13,222 --> 00:29:14,415
he said, I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna,

824
00:29:14,574 --> 00:29:16,498
I'll use a stage name. You He said

825
00:29:16,498 --> 00:29:17,536
you can tell me he says I'll give

826
00:29:17,536 --> 00:29:19,633
you 2 choices It can be Michael Bradford

827
00:29:19,771 --> 00:29:20,889
or Tom Holland.

828
00:29:25,533 --> 00:29:26,988
And so he submitted

829
00:29:27,364 --> 00:29:30,627
he submitted an audition under Michael Bradford sent

830
00:29:30,627 --> 00:29:32,776
it to our casting director. And this is

831
00:29:32,776 --> 00:29:34,447
the same casting director that does.

832
00:29:35,099 --> 00:29:37,013
Like, these big movies that come to Utah

833
00:29:37,013 --> 00:29:39,326
and he's done some Mark world W movies

834
00:29:39,326 --> 00:29:40,204
and Chemical Acosta.

835
00:29:41,081 --> 00:29:42,836
And so of all the kids that came

836
00:29:42,836 --> 00:29:44,884
through a casting director sent the

837
00:29:45,403 --> 00:29:47,155
set his selections back over to me,

838
00:29:47,952 --> 00:29:49,546
and Michael was in there. He's 1 of

839
00:29:49,546 --> 00:29:51,698
them. And Wow And I had to do

840
00:29:51,698 --> 00:29:54,188
a a callback, like a live callback where

841
00:29:54,188 --> 00:29:56,265
it's me, the casting director my producing partner,

842
00:29:56,744 --> 00:29:58,263
and the kids come in and and read

843
00:29:58,263 --> 00:30:00,954
their lines and and Michael came in and

844
00:30:01,153 --> 00:30:03,538
he stood out. He did well and Cast

845
00:30:03,538 --> 00:30:05,048
ingram. Yeah. Cast said, what do you think?

846
00:30:05,286 --> 00:30:06,558
Said, I like these people and he said,

847
00:30:07,194 --> 00:30:09,896
he says, Michael Bradford is interesting, and I

848
00:30:09,896 --> 00:30:11,106
said, I had to confess.

849
00:30:12,779 --> 00:30:14,293
Okay. I gotta tell you he's my son,

850
00:30:15,089 --> 00:30:16,842
and our casting director was super supervise. He

851
00:30:16,842 --> 00:30:19,252
said, I if you don't cast him, you're

852
00:30:19,252 --> 00:30:20,211
making the wrong movie.

853
00:30:20,930 --> 00:30:24,786
And that was really insightful and they recognized

854
00:30:25,179 --> 00:30:27,656
both the opportunity there, but, recognize that.

855
00:30:28,695 --> 00:30:31,411
That that Michael was right for the role.

856
00:30:32,210 --> 00:30:32,450
Yeah.

857
00:30:33,103 --> 00:30:35,092
So we ran him by the family, the

858
00:30:35,092 --> 00:30:37,241
the Dentist family on whom whom the boy,

859
00:30:38,037 --> 00:30:39,151
you know, the story is based,

860
00:30:39,867 --> 00:30:41,799
and they said he's, like, an identical

861
00:30:42,670 --> 00:30:44,369
match. He said it was just incredible

862
00:30:45,070 --> 00:30:45,970
how much he

863
00:30:46,269 --> 00:30:47,789
he nailed it. And so Michael did his

864
00:30:47,789 --> 00:30:50,269
own research. He hired a act an acting

865
00:30:50,269 --> 00:30:50,589
coach.

866
00:30:51,324 --> 00:30:53,550
It was just... It took it very, very

867
00:30:53,550 --> 00:30:54,028
seriously.

868
00:30:54,823 --> 00:30:56,970
And even on onset, even the, you know,

869
00:30:57,049 --> 00:30:58,878
the last... Were on the last day on

870
00:30:58,878 --> 00:30:59,117
onset,

871
00:31:00,404 --> 00:31:03,185
Ben Lo, who plays 1 of the search,

872
00:31:03,344 --> 00:31:04,138
1 of the rescuers.

873
00:31:04,774 --> 00:31:06,363
Means order Mike Was. So Michael, what are

874
00:31:06,363 --> 00:31:07,793
you? You know, what's next for you? What

875
00:31:07,793 --> 00:31:09,159
are you are you didn't do? And he's

876
00:31:09,159 --> 00:31:11,465
like, well, I don't know. Probably whatever my

877
00:31:11,465 --> 00:31:13,215
dad wants to do and he he like,

878
00:31:13,374 --> 00:31:14,192
well, who's,

879
00:31:14,567 --> 00:31:15,839
your dad? Who's your dad?

880
00:31:16,714 --> 00:31:18,957
So it was neat that None of the

881
00:31:18,957 --> 00:31:20,732
cast. I mean, the cast didn't know

882
00:31:21,109 --> 00:31:21,609
the

883
00:31:22,066 --> 00:31:24,138
there and and it was it was a

884
00:31:24,138 --> 00:31:25,653
neat thing for them to be like, oh,

885
00:31:25,972 --> 00:31:28,767
wow. That's great. Yeah. That that is a

886
00:31:28,767 --> 00:31:31,784
great story. I had no idea. Yeah. Well,

887
00:31:32,022 --> 00:31:34,165
yeah. Tell him he tell him I personally

888
00:31:34,165 --> 00:31:36,722
found him impressive. But... He really was perfect

889
00:31:36,722 --> 00:31:38,416
for the role, and

890
00:31:39,029 --> 00:31:40,700
and I just thought I just thought the

891
00:31:40,700 --> 00:31:43,023
whole movie was well cast, but I thought

892
00:31:43,023 --> 00:31:45,496
it was really sweet the interactions between him

893
00:31:45,496 --> 00:31:47,968
and, Kirby H who placed his dad. Like,

894
00:31:48,367 --> 00:31:50,520
they both just nailed that time of life.

895
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:52,490
I just thought it was really beautiful and

896
00:31:52,609 --> 00:31:54,283
weed and, yeah. Really well done. Thank you.

897
00:31:54,682 --> 00:31:56,913
Yeah. They had a good Kirby is so

898
00:31:56,913 --> 00:31:58,906
wonderful and he would come over and improvise

899
00:31:58,906 --> 00:32:01,392
with Michael and practice and And I think

900
00:32:01,392 --> 00:32:03,144
that that showed on screen. Kirby knew what

901
00:32:03,144 --> 00:32:04,180
he was getting into I was like, okay,

902
00:32:04,339 --> 00:32:06,490
we're we're gonna have some heavy scenes with

903
00:32:06,490 --> 00:32:07,765
the with a 10 year old kid,

904
00:32:08,402 --> 00:32:10,649
and let's make sure that those working. I

905
00:32:10,809 --> 00:32:12,329
I'm so grateful for Kirby for doing that.

906
00:32:13,450 --> 00:32:15,130
Yeah. So I've I've heard a lot of

907
00:32:15,130 --> 00:32:17,690
stories in Hollywood about actors who decide they

908
00:32:17,690 --> 00:32:18,730
wanna be directors.

909
00:32:19,383 --> 00:32:21,376
I don't know many stories of directors who

910
00:32:21,376 --> 00:32:22,970
say, hey, I wanna try acting.

911
00:32:23,926 --> 00:32:25,281
Are you gonna be 1 of those stories

912
00:32:25,361 --> 00:32:26,796
I can tell people the future that be

913
00:32:26,796 --> 00:32:28,720
like, you know what? He started out writing,

914
00:32:29,118 --> 00:32:31,822
producing directing, and now he's gonna be starring.

915
00:32:31,981 --> 00:32:32,720
And that

916
00:32:34,050 --> 00:32:36,222
you No. That... No. If I'm in front

917
00:32:36,222 --> 00:32:37,661
of the camera, it's pointing the wrong way.

918
00:32:40,778 --> 00:32:42,775
That's a firm note, matt. Because firm no.

919
00:32:42,935 --> 00:32:44,067
That do you always feel that way?

920
00:32:45,737 --> 00:32:47,407
I think there was a brief time when

921
00:32:47,567 --> 00:32:48,998
I thought, oh, I'd love to be... Actually...

922
00:32:49,396 --> 00:32:49,476
Yeah.

923
00:32:50,430 --> 00:32:52,281
Put my mom would tell you. I used

924
00:32:52,281 --> 00:32:54,856
to... Part of the dream was to

925
00:32:55,234 --> 00:32:57,331
finish my mission and go out to Hollywood

926
00:32:57,389 --> 00:32:58,826
and, you know, just living in a little

927
00:32:58,826 --> 00:32:59,066
flat.

928
00:33:00,356 --> 00:33:02,743
Be an actor and live off of warm

929
00:33:02,902 --> 00:33:06,084
Pepsi and cold pizza was my my... That's

930
00:33:06,084 --> 00:33:08,630
kinda how I'd envisioned those early twenties.

931
00:33:10,163 --> 00:33:10,663
Fortunately,

932
00:33:11,361 --> 00:33:11,521
that...

933
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:13,679
There was another path for me.

934
00:33:14,478 --> 00:33:16,076
Does you... Does your son have the same

935
00:33:16,076 --> 00:33:17,686
hope and dream for his life? The 1

936
00:33:17,686 --> 00:33:19,909
wants probably the the... Yeah. Troy.

937
00:33:21,179 --> 00:33:23,561
He he has since picked up an agent,

938
00:33:23,878 --> 00:33:24,355
and

939
00:33:24,990 --> 00:33:27,549
the right just this week is wrapping up

940
00:33:27,549 --> 00:33:29,458
a his second movie that he's doing for

941
00:33:29,458 --> 00:33:30,015
another director.

942
00:33:30,969 --> 00:33:33,036
Oh, that's fantastic. It's kinda fun to see

943
00:33:33,036 --> 00:33:34,888
because he's a talented kid and

944
00:33:35,199 --> 00:33:36,472
It's got a good head on his shoulders,

945
00:33:36,631 --> 00:33:37,029
And so,

946
00:33:37,825 --> 00:33:39,655
you know, it's a it's a crazy world

947
00:33:39,655 --> 00:33:42,042
and acting is a is a challenging challenging

948
00:33:42,042 --> 00:33:42,280
craft.

949
00:33:43,328 --> 00:33:44,758
But I think he's approaching it the right

950
00:33:44,758 --> 00:33:44,996
way.

951
00:33:45,790 --> 00:33:48,172
Oh, that's fun. So I've noticed... I don't

952
00:33:48,172 --> 00:33:49,840
know how to call this this genre of

953
00:33:49,998 --> 00:33:51,880
L stuff, but I'm sure you've seen this

954
00:33:51,998 --> 00:33:52,498
trailer

955
00:33:52,870 --> 00:33:55,248
for this horror movie about sister missionaries that

956
00:33:55,248 --> 00:33:56,674
get put in some kind of a torture

957
00:33:56,674 --> 00:33:59,052
house or something like that. Yes. Here.

958
00:33:59,863 --> 00:34:00,661
Heard. Kia.

959
00:34:01,220 --> 00:34:02,736
Is with Hugh brand.

960
00:34:03,454 --> 00:34:06,646
Yes. That's right. Yeah. Is in your view,

961
00:34:07,698 --> 00:34:09,453
is... Like, I don't I just... I don't

962
00:34:09,453 --> 00:34:10,889
know quite how to ask this question, but

963
00:34:10,889 --> 00:34:13,223
it's sort of like, you could take mormons

964
00:34:13,521 --> 00:34:15,355
and put them in any situation and call

965
00:34:15,355 --> 00:34:17,131
it kind of like a Mormon movie

966
00:34:17,762 --> 00:34:19,274
but it wouldn't be a faith based film.

967
00:34:19,592 --> 00:34:19,831
Right?

968
00:34:20,468 --> 00:34:23,094
Like, is it important to you to make

969
00:34:23,094 --> 00:34:24,686
faith based films,

970
00:34:25,417 --> 00:34:27,268
more than making mormon

971
00:34:27,723 --> 00:34:29,631
characters in, like, all kinds of other sort

972
00:34:29,631 --> 00:34:31,460
of things. You. You don't what have asking...

973
00:34:31,619 --> 00:34:32,493
Do you see what I'm saying?

974
00:34:33,863 --> 00:34:36,497
Me... Yes. I do. And I wanna clarify

975
00:34:36,497 --> 00:34:37,215
to... In order...

976
00:34:37,934 --> 00:34:39,930
You're talking about for me to make movies.

977
00:34:40,249 --> 00:34:40,409
Yeah.

978
00:34:41,207 --> 00:34:41,526
Appreciate.

979
00:34:42,817 --> 00:34:45,202
It's a... Yeah, it's a a fair question.

980
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:46,576
And and

981
00:34:47,586 --> 00:34:50,289
it's funny that, you know, when when that

982
00:34:50,289 --> 00:34:51,242
trailer drops,

983
00:34:51,973 --> 00:34:52,212
you know,

984
00:34:53,246 --> 00:34:54,541
everybody has their own opinion

985
00:34:55,075 --> 00:34:57,700
on on that movie, and we don't know

986
00:34:57,700 --> 00:34:58,177
what it's about.

987
00:34:58,828 --> 00:35:00,018
I don't know Okay. It's gonna be.

988
00:35:00,811 --> 00:35:02,080
Pause. What's your opinion?

989
00:35:02,793 --> 00:35:03,983
Well, I don't know. What it's gonna be?

990
00:35:04,221 --> 00:35:04,776
I mean, I think...

991
00:35:05,728 --> 00:35:07,409
But when you saw the... Trailer were you

992
00:35:07,409 --> 00:35:08,203
like, what.

993
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,983
See the guy that directed the first movie

994
00:35:10,983 --> 00:35:14,160
that showed missionaries in peril, like, I tried

995
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:14,660
being

996
00:35:15,113 --> 00:35:17,592
handcuffed and beat up. Trailer And everyone... Like,

997
00:35:17,831 --> 00:35:19,422
when I pitched that movie when I pitched

998
00:35:19,422 --> 00:35:21,730
the raw top approach to investors,

999
00:35:22,208 --> 00:35:23,799
they looked at me, like, what is wrong

1000
00:35:23,799 --> 00:35:25,493
with you? Like, what do you have

1001
00:35:25,963 --> 00:35:28,111
against the church. I'm like, wait a second.

1002
00:35:29,703 --> 00:35:31,374
Read read Alma,

1003
00:35:31,852 --> 00:35:32,011
like,

1004
00:35:32,807 --> 00:35:34,398
they... These are not the first missionaries to

1005
00:35:34,398 --> 00:35:34,898
be

1006
00:35:35,768 --> 00:35:37,044
tough rough up a little bit.

1007
00:35:38,001 --> 00:35:39,915
And then I pitched it to distributors.

1008
00:35:40,553 --> 00:35:42,068
You know, I pitched this movie. Okay. Here's

1009
00:35:42,068 --> 00:35:44,142
a, you know, it's true story. All these

1010
00:35:44,142 --> 00:35:44,780
missionaries there.

1011
00:35:45,434 --> 00:35:47,747
They're they're taken and held for 5 days

1012
00:35:47,747 --> 00:35:49,661
and and this distributors listening, and I'm thinking

1013
00:35:49,661 --> 00:35:51,017
oh, this is really good I'm selling. This

1014
00:35:51,017 --> 00:35:52,692
is good. He goes, oh yes Yes.

1015
00:35:53,250 --> 00:35:54,766
That that could be very, very funny.

1016
00:35:58,759 --> 00:35:59,577
And so

1017
00:36:00,827 --> 00:36:01,327
so

1018
00:36:01,782 --> 00:36:03,386
I didn't So I didn't know how people

1019
00:36:03,386 --> 00:36:05,691
were gonna react at all Yeah until it

1020
00:36:05,691 --> 00:36:06,327
hit the theaters.

1021
00:36:07,518 --> 00:36:09,187
And so I think I try to give...

1022
00:36:09,838 --> 00:36:11,028
Anyway movie, the benefit of the doubt. It's

1023
00:36:11,028 --> 00:36:12,457
like, hey. There's the trailer, there's the pitch.

1024
00:36:12,695 --> 00:36:14,521
Okay. Great. What's it gonna be when his

1025
00:36:14,521 --> 00:36:14,759
theaters.

1026
00:36:15,949 --> 00:36:17,695
I don't fear. I don't I don't think

1027
00:36:17,695 --> 00:36:19,932
it's gonna... I... It'll... I I think that

1028
00:36:19,932 --> 00:36:22,075
movie will certainly have an audience. It looks

1029
00:36:22,075 --> 00:36:24,852
very well made and and a 24 distributes

1030
00:36:24,852 --> 00:36:25,328
high art.

1031
00:36:25,978 --> 00:36:28,755
Type movies. So it'll have an audience. And

1032
00:36:29,945 --> 00:36:31,929
from the trailer, it seems like those sister

1033
00:36:31,929 --> 00:36:34,643
missionaries sure have the vernacular down and Yeah.

1034
00:36:34,882 --> 00:36:37,352
They're quirky accents and Yes. And

1035
00:36:38,069 --> 00:36:40,539
yeah. I don't know. Yeah. Okay. But back

1036
00:36:40,539 --> 00:36:42,610
to Matt's question about the faith aspect of

1037
00:36:42,610 --> 00:36:43,407
the movies you make.

1038
00:36:44,458 --> 00:36:47,008
Yes. I love... I'm I'm drawn to faith

1039
00:36:47,008 --> 00:36:48,146
based filmmaking.

1040
00:36:49,399 --> 00:36:51,072
I I love those types of stories. I

1041
00:36:51,072 --> 00:36:51,471
think it's...

1042
00:36:52,121 --> 00:36:53,813
So much work to

1043
00:36:54,187 --> 00:36:55,005
make a movie

1044
00:36:55,458 --> 00:36:56,888
that if I'm gonna put that much hardened

1045
00:36:56,888 --> 00:36:59,271
and soul into it, that it should align

1046
00:36:59,271 --> 00:36:59,771
with

1047
00:37:01,828 --> 00:37:04,453
with what I... What I've... What I promise

1048
00:37:04,453 --> 00:37:05,487
put My heart and soul into.

1049
00:37:06,282 --> 00:37:06,680
Mh.

1050
00:37:07,157 --> 00:37:08,135
And so

1051
00:37:10,442 --> 00:37:13,079
I don't know that every story I make

1052
00:37:13,079 --> 00:37:15,736
is going to be an L.

1053
00:37:17,248 --> 00:37:17,728
Family,

1054
00:37:19,405 --> 00:37:22,041
or story or something like that. But it

1055
00:37:22,041 --> 00:37:23,260
could. You know, it's a it

1056
00:37:23,574 --> 00:37:24,775
again, it's a lot of work to make

1057
00:37:24,775 --> 00:37:26,054
a movie. And so I don't know how

1058
00:37:26,054 --> 00:37:26,295
many...

1059
00:37:27,014 --> 00:37:28,135
I get to make. I hope I to

1060
00:37:28,135 --> 00:37:29,175
make another dozen.

1061
00:37:31,014 --> 00:37:33,989
But yeah, We'll we'll... We'll see you. You

1062
00:37:33,989 --> 00:37:35,989
you do seem drawn to true stories though.

1063
00:37:36,549 --> 00:37:38,549
Is that is that fair to say that

1064
00:37:38,549 --> 00:37:40,309
you're looking for a good story that's a

1065
00:37:40,309 --> 00:37:40,789
true story?

1066
00:37:42,643 --> 00:37:44,714
That's what has come up. Yeah. That's that's

1067
00:37:44,714 --> 00:37:45,033
what

1068
00:37:45,829 --> 00:37:47,604
I think our... I think this audience

1069
00:37:48,459 --> 00:37:50,153
is drawn to those and resonates

1070
00:37:50,610 --> 00:37:51,827
or at least is

1071
00:37:52,380 --> 00:37:54,140
maybe those are easy to sell to an

1072
00:37:54,140 --> 00:37:55,920
investor or a or a back or

1073
00:37:56,220 --> 00:37:56,700
Mh.

1074
00:37:57,260 --> 00:37:58,860
Maybe I'm not I don't know. I

1075
00:37:59,833 --> 00:38:01,980
Creatively if maybe there's a a good creative

1076
00:38:01,980 --> 00:38:03,571
script that isn't a true story that could

1077
00:38:03,571 --> 00:38:04,208
be fun to make.

1078
00:38:05,958 --> 00:38:07,648
Yeah. IIII

1079
00:38:07,648 --> 00:38:09,006
wouldn't... I don't wanna put myself in a

1080
00:38:09,006 --> 00:38:11,084
boxes there. I'll only do true stories. I

1081
00:38:11,084 --> 00:38:13,960
think sure. 1, Rom com would be so

1082
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:14,520
great to make.

1083
00:38:16,047 --> 00:38:17,581
Like an honestly like a heartfelt

1084
00:38:18,434 --> 00:38:20,105
Rom comp could be really hate.

1085
00:38:20,821 --> 00:38:22,909
Mh. Cool. Excuse talk to members of the

1086
00:38:22,909 --> 00:38:25,066
church from different backgrounds. Right? Like, members of

1087
00:38:25,225 --> 00:38:27,782
Congress. We've talked to people that are professors

1088
00:38:27,782 --> 00:38:30,830
and podcast, things like that. It seems to

1089
00:38:30,830 --> 00:38:32,660
me like members of the church, at least

1090
00:38:32,660 --> 00:38:33,376
at the moment.

1091
00:38:34,092 --> 00:38:35,922
Feel like there's good that they do in

1092
00:38:35,922 --> 00:38:37,831
their calling and in the official ways that

1093
00:38:37,831 --> 00:38:38,786
they're part of the church.

1094
00:38:39,358 --> 00:38:41,346
And then there's things that they do that

1095
00:38:41,346 --> 00:38:43,334
are good because they feel some other kind

1096
00:38:43,334 --> 00:38:45,719
of higher calling, maybe an internal calling in

1097
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,264
an internal motivation to to do these kinds

1098
00:38:48,264 --> 00:38:50,829
of things. Is filmmaking like that for you

1099
00:38:50,829 --> 00:38:52,346
or faith based films like that for you.

1100
00:38:52,505 --> 00:38:54,739
Like, you kinda feel called to, like, this

1101
00:38:54,739 --> 00:38:55,936
is something I can do to...

1102
00:38:56,748 --> 00:38:58,818
Like, create good in the world around me.

1103
00:39:01,763 --> 00:39:04,804
Yeah. III think so. I think and I

1104
00:39:04,804 --> 00:39:06,478
don't wanna come across as, like, the tortured

1105
00:39:06,478 --> 00:39:06,797
artist,

1106
00:39:08,393 --> 00:39:11,445
but I think that there are easier genres

1107
00:39:11,982 --> 00:39:14,215
and easier ways to make a living film.

1108
00:39:18,455 --> 00:39:20,209
And it is hard. I mean, I I

1109
00:39:20,209 --> 00:39:22,521
mentioned a paid project and a passion project,

1110
00:39:23,173 --> 00:39:24,445
didn't say which projects were paid.

1111
00:39:25,876 --> 00:39:27,387
They that now, they're not these films.

1112
00:39:28,023 --> 00:39:30,169
I did passion projects. And at the end

1113
00:39:30,169 --> 00:39:32,336
of the day, I'm grateful for those that

1114
00:39:32,336 --> 00:39:33,613
support them and go to see them in

1115
00:39:33,613 --> 00:39:33,932
theaters,

1116
00:39:34,731 --> 00:39:35,231
but

1117
00:39:36,886 --> 00:39:39,280
that's that doesn't... I can't make my living.

1118
00:39:39,695 --> 00:39:41,855
That way. So I'll always be doing, you

1119
00:39:41,855 --> 00:39:44,595
know, work work for the church or or

1120
00:39:44,974 --> 00:39:47,215
other, you know, commercials or I, you know,

1121
00:39:47,375 --> 00:39:50,333
I directed an episode of studio c. Mh.

1122
00:39:51,046 --> 00:39:53,107
The last season. And so I'm very grateful

1123
00:39:53,107 --> 00:39:54,216
for those types of projects.

1124
00:39:56,533 --> 00:39:59,244
Term remember. I'd I just dodged your Dodge

1125
00:39:59,244 --> 00:40:02,114
your question totally. Got completely answered my question.

1126
00:40:02,354 --> 00:40:04,108
Yeah. I I actually think a lot of

1127
00:40:04,108 --> 00:40:06,119
people feel that way they. They make their

1128
00:40:06,119 --> 00:40:08,516
living in 1 way, and then they say,

1129
00:40:08,675 --> 00:40:10,353
but I wanna be doing something in the

1130
00:40:10,353 --> 00:40:12,031
world. I wanna, like, I wanna leave my

1131
00:40:12,031 --> 00:40:14,041
mark in a positive way or And maybe

1132
00:40:14,041 --> 00:40:15,233
it's as simple as like the way they

1133
00:40:15,233 --> 00:40:17,854
interact with other people, but but they they

1134
00:40:17,854 --> 00:40:19,760
also take on these other things. They're not

1135
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:21,270
waiting for the church to call them to

1136
00:40:21,270 --> 00:40:21,826
do something.

1137
00:40:22,318 --> 00:40:23,752
I'm waiting for someone to give them permission

1138
00:40:23,752 --> 00:40:25,424
to do something. They just say this is

1139
00:40:25,424 --> 00:40:27,336
something I think I can do, and this

1140
00:40:27,336 --> 00:40:28,610
is a need I see in the world,

1141
00:40:28,769 --> 00:40:29,884
and so I'm just gonna take it on

1142
00:40:29,884 --> 00:40:30,362
and do it.

1143
00:40:31,174 --> 00:40:32,610
I I think you're right on. I love

1144
00:40:32,610 --> 00:40:32,769
that.

1145
00:40:33,726 --> 00:40:36,518
Right before I made Sur approach. It was

1146
00:40:36,518 --> 00:40:38,671
the... I I got a job full time.

1147
00:40:38,990 --> 00:40:40,187
Was the only time I've ever had a

1148
00:40:40,187 --> 00:40:40,745
full time job.

1149
00:40:41,397 --> 00:40:42,749
Working for the church,

1150
00:40:43,942 --> 00:40:45,611
producing mormon messages.

1151
00:40:46,168 --> 00:40:48,713
And were like, new little... I mean, Youtube

1152
00:40:48,713 --> 00:40:50,065
was kind of a place. It was good

1153
00:40:50,065 --> 00:40:50,701
wild west,

1154
00:40:52,068 --> 00:40:53,523
it's still out west, But

1155
00:40:54,058 --> 00:40:56,786
there wasn't a lot of faith based content

1156
00:40:56,844 --> 00:40:58,515
coming out on Youtube. Right?

1157
00:40:59,629 --> 00:41:00,129
And

1158
00:41:00,679 --> 00:41:03,383
the church put out an an Easter message

1159
00:41:03,383 --> 00:41:05,610
from Elder Holland. And I... At the time,

1160
00:41:05,849 --> 00:41:07,463
I was totally independent and just

1161
00:41:07,853 --> 00:41:09,364
I had a business. I had about 5

1162
00:41:09,364 --> 00:41:11,750
full time employees. We're doing out of corporate

1163
00:41:11,750 --> 00:41:13,739
stuff. And I saw Mess miller at hall,

1164
00:41:13,818 --> 00:41:15,661
and I thought, I And even the church

1165
00:41:15,661 --> 00:41:17,806
was 1 of my clients. Yeah. And and

1166
00:41:18,045 --> 00:41:20,451
I thought, man, I would do anything to

1167
00:41:20,745 --> 00:41:22,596
be able to make that type of content

1168
00:41:22,652 --> 00:41:23,922
like, that is awesome.

1169
00:41:24,574 --> 00:41:26,090
And within 3 months,

1170
00:41:26,968 --> 00:41:28,723
my entire business like, dried up,

1171
00:41:29,362 --> 00:41:30,798
all my clients are right, we're out of

1172
00:41:30,798 --> 00:41:31,596
here we're fence somebody else.

1173
00:41:32,248 --> 00:41:33,601
And it was like, what am I gonna

1174
00:41:33,601 --> 00:41:35,750
to do? This is insane. And I got

1175
00:41:35,750 --> 00:41:38,318
a call from 1 of... Somebody

1176
00:41:38,694 --> 00:41:40,524
employee at the church a good friend.

1177
00:41:41,815 --> 00:41:43,974
Who... I don't think he knew that I

1178
00:41:43,974 --> 00:41:44,474
was

1179
00:41:45,014 --> 00:41:45,514
desperately

1180
00:41:46,695 --> 00:41:48,949
ready for whatever would come my way, But

1181
00:41:48,949 --> 00:41:49,984
he said, hey, would you like to come

1182
00:41:49,984 --> 00:41:53,410
on board and and help us produce this

1183
00:41:53,410 --> 00:41:54,605
series called mormon messages.

1184
00:41:55,322 --> 00:41:55,721
And

1185
00:41:56,438 --> 00:41:58,053
so I was grateful over for that. So

1186
00:41:59,319 --> 00:42:00,432
let's see. There was a point to this

1187
00:42:00,432 --> 00:42:00,670
story.

1188
00:42:03,294 --> 00:42:03,794
We

1189
00:42:04,169 --> 00:42:04,669
we

1190
00:42:05,043 --> 00:42:06,316
put together his team, there are 6 of

1191
00:42:06,316 --> 00:42:08,739
us that were creating these more messages and

1192
00:42:09,275 --> 00:42:12,304
then it started to spur, like, other, we'd

1193
00:42:12,304 --> 00:42:13,680
see members of the church

1194
00:42:14,057 --> 00:42:15,491
on their own releasing,

1195
00:42:16,143 --> 00:42:18,208
content or creating content or taking cut ups

1196
00:42:18,208 --> 00:42:20,829
from general commerce stock and releasing those. And

1197
00:42:20,829 --> 00:42:22,894
there was that sentiment of, like, oh, hey.

1198
00:42:23,053 --> 00:42:24,006
This is our territory,

1199
00:42:24,338 --> 00:42:27,040
and then it's very quick like rep, the

1200
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:28,732
spiritual rep. No.

1201
00:42:29,185 --> 00:42:31,751
That's exactly what we want. We want. Members

1202
00:42:31,807 --> 00:42:32,523
church to take.

1203
00:42:33,412 --> 00:42:36,139
Initiative, why should the church spend money

1204
00:42:36,753 --> 00:42:37,810
and resources

1205
00:42:38,264 --> 00:42:41,388
creating content when there's millions of members of

1206
00:42:41,388 --> 00:42:42,746
church, and we each have phones and editing

1207
00:42:42,746 --> 00:42:43,945
or whatever it is, we can create our

1208
00:42:43,945 --> 00:42:44,505
own content,

1209
00:42:45,064 --> 00:42:46,582
and let's let's do that. Let's make it

1210
00:42:46,582 --> 00:42:48,820
look right. Let's not maybe represent anything.

1211
00:42:49,473 --> 00:42:51,087
But my goodness is to have people

1212
00:42:51,541 --> 00:42:53,530
feel compelled like, yeah, I'm an accountant by

1213
00:42:53,530 --> 00:42:55,939
day and a Youtube creator of

1214
00:42:56,488 --> 00:42:59,272
General conference Instagram shorts by night. That's cool.

1215
00:43:00,863 --> 00:43:03,090
Yeah. That's really cool. That's really cool.

1216
00:43:03,982 --> 00:43:06,134
Okay. So Garrett, do you wanna tell us

1217
00:43:06,134 --> 00:43:07,967
anything more about this faith of Angel movie?

1218
00:43:08,365 --> 00:43:10,858
Because I don't wanna, like, spoil anything.

1219
00:43:11,409 --> 00:43:13,077
But I do want people to go see

1220
00:43:13,077 --> 00:43:15,540
it? Like, it's really really good.

1221
00:43:16,494 --> 00:43:18,401
Do you wanna tell us anything more about

1222
00:43:18,401 --> 00:43:19,672
the movie? And...

1223
00:43:20,244 --> 00:43:22,313
If so, or if not, I also wanna

1224
00:43:22,313 --> 00:43:24,143
hear what you're working on next.

1225
00:43:25,894 --> 00:43:28,202
Yeah. Well well, melissa thank you for being

1226
00:43:28,202 --> 00:43:30,922
sensitive to spoiling it. And people can certainly

1227
00:43:30,922 --> 00:43:33,150
search out the story and they know what

1228
00:43:33,150 --> 00:43:33,468
happens.

1229
00:43:34,661 --> 00:43:36,331
Yeah. It's not a spoiler in that way,

1230
00:43:36,491 --> 00:43:37,547
but it's a spoiler

1231
00:43:38,081 --> 00:43:41,135
emotionally. Like, it's it's it's an emotional movie,

1232
00:43:41,695 --> 00:43:43,535
and and it's not pushing you to feel

1233
00:43:43,535 --> 00:43:45,535
a certain emotion, but it's it's pushing you

1234
00:43:45,535 --> 00:43:47,614
to explore what's going on inside your own

1235
00:43:47,614 --> 00:43:49,389
head, like it really does take you on

1236
00:43:49,389 --> 00:43:51,789
a personal journey. I think as you're watching

1237
00:43:51,789 --> 00:43:54,510
it. So... I thank you. And III think

1238
00:43:54,510 --> 00:43:55,809
that as a filmmaker,

1239
00:43:56,829 --> 00:43:59,154
you know... I spent a year researching the

1240
00:43:59,154 --> 00:44:00,449
story in interviews

1241
00:44:00,824 --> 00:44:04,188
with the family and the search, and

1242
00:44:04,498 --> 00:44:05,371
The news media,

1243
00:44:06,483 --> 00:44:08,865
and then anybody else who was involved of

1244
00:44:08,865 --> 00:44:10,715
the friends that are connected with the family

1245
00:44:10,930 --> 00:44:13,653
and just interviewing and interviewing and researching and

1246
00:44:14,201 --> 00:44:14,701
without

1247
00:44:16,745 --> 00:44:19,471
fail, every single 1 of them had been,

1248
00:44:19,925 --> 00:44:20,084
like,

1249
00:44:21,197 --> 00:44:23,048
lifelong impacted by

1250
00:44:23,517 --> 00:44:24,232
this story.

1251
00:44:25,265 --> 00:44:27,115
And they all recounted

1252
00:44:27,807 --> 00:44:29,737
their the own their own miracles

1253
00:44:30,349 --> 00:44:31,246
that occurred

1254
00:44:32,190 --> 00:44:35,284
through their involvement? And So, the... That was

1255
00:44:35,284 --> 00:44:37,346
1 of the joys of of writing the

1256
00:44:37,346 --> 00:44:38,536
script. As it a writing scripting saying. How

1257
00:44:38,536 --> 00:44:39,750
do we how do we make this

1258
00:44:40,139 --> 00:44:41,415
interesting or how do we, how do we

1259
00:44:41,415 --> 00:44:43,889
up the stakes and this movie is isn't

1260
00:44:43,889 --> 00:44:46,122
we never had to say, well, let's make

1261
00:44:46,122 --> 00:44:48,366
something up here. It was always just back

1262
00:44:48,366 --> 00:44:50,432
to the notes and say, oh, okay. We

1263
00:44:50,432 --> 00:44:51,306
need a scene here,

1264
00:44:52,498 --> 00:44:52,816
whatever.

1265
00:44:53,372 --> 00:44:55,756
And there was always a supportive miracle.

1266
00:44:56,248 --> 00:44:58,073
And so we tried to show those and,

1267
00:44:58,152 --> 00:45:00,295
you know, the... There's 17 miracles, and this

1268
00:45:00,295 --> 00:45:02,755
would be 25 miracles. You know? Like yeah.

1269
00:45:04,915 --> 00:45:07,539
So so, yes, You'll... The... I I want

1270
00:45:07,539 --> 00:45:08,891
the audience to come away going.

1271
00:45:09,527 --> 00:45:12,629
Wow. That... As une as it is,

1272
00:45:13,677 --> 00:45:16,456
It occurred, and let's explain it by saying

1273
00:45:16,456 --> 00:45:18,600
it was a miracle. Yeah. That's super cool.

1274
00:45:18,759 --> 00:45:19,871
That's super cool. Yeah.

1275
00:45:20,585 --> 00:45:22,094
Okay. And what else are you working on?

1276
00:45:23,698 --> 00:45:25,447
So we're... So the kick kickstarter is live,

1277
00:45:25,685 --> 00:45:28,308
we are we are getting ready and to

1278
00:45:28,308 --> 00:45:30,136
put this in theaters September twelfth.

1279
00:45:30,949 --> 00:45:32,328
And then a nationwide

1280
00:45:32,947 --> 00:45:34,465
September 20 sixth, and so if you want

1281
00:45:34,465 --> 00:45:34,965
it,

1282
00:45:35,504 --> 00:45:36,563
you know, anywhere

1283
00:45:36,942 --> 00:45:37,981
out of out of Utah,

1284
00:45:39,432 --> 00:45:41,762
log on to the Kickstarter and and and

1285
00:45:42,215 --> 00:45:44,999
be part of that. Share and donate and

1286
00:45:44,999 --> 00:45:47,146
share and then we can take this further.

1287
00:45:47,718 --> 00:45:49,229
And then in November, we have a movie

1288
00:45:49,229 --> 00:45:51,137
called, the carpenter that comes out, and this

1289
00:45:51,137 --> 00:45:53,523
is a fun movie. We shot it actually,

1290
00:45:53,841 --> 00:45:54,795
before faith of Angels.

1291
00:45:56,005 --> 00:45:57,284
Shot it in South Africa.

1292
00:45:58,085 --> 00:46:00,405
And it's a it's a movie. It's unlike

1293
00:46:00,405 --> 00:46:00,804
anything,

1294
00:46:01,284 --> 00:46:02,324
you'll ever see and it's like,

1295
00:46:03,125 --> 00:46:04,405
Rocky meets the chosen.

1296
00:46:05,855 --> 00:46:06,332
Okay.

1297
00:46:07,526 --> 00:46:10,470
It it's a fictional story about a, like,

1298
00:46:10,630 --> 00:46:14,233
an Mma fighter that becomes an apprentice to

1299
00:46:14,864 --> 00:46:17,578
a mysterious carpenter in Nazareth and it changes

1300
00:46:17,738 --> 00:46:18,057
Wow.

1301
00:46:18,616 --> 00:46:20,851
Yeah. That sounds interesting. Right Not based on

1302
00:46:20,851 --> 00:46:23,806
a story. Okay. Cool. Right Sounds good.

1303
00:46:24,699 --> 00:46:26,777
Cool. And then are you just kind of

1304
00:46:26,777 --> 00:46:28,535
always on the lookout for your next story?

1305
00:46:29,574 --> 00:46:31,651
Yeah. Yeah. I always have 2 or 3.

1306
00:46:32,130 --> 00:46:34,623
There's a fun. Tv series that I'd like

1307
00:46:34,623 --> 00:46:34,942
to do,

1308
00:46:35,821 --> 00:46:37,339
you know, should we find the, find the

1309
00:46:37,339 --> 00:46:40,855
right backing, but a Tv series called Angel

1310
00:46:40,855 --> 00:46:42,088
town, which

1311
00:46:42,463 --> 00:46:43,734
takes place in the afterlife.

1312
00:46:44,687 --> 00:46:47,650
Oh, cool. And I... Yeah. This generational drama

1313
00:46:47,706 --> 00:46:48,206
about

1314
00:46:49,152 --> 00:46:51,777
those unanswered lingering questions of mortality and how

1315
00:46:51,777 --> 00:46:52,333
they get answered.

1316
00:46:53,765 --> 00:46:55,436
Fun a very fun series.

1317
00:46:56,487 --> 00:46:57,843
Yeah. And then I always got a couple

1318
00:46:57,843 --> 00:46:59,757
of ideas I like to do, but never

1319
00:46:59,757 --> 00:47:01,911
know which one's gonna be next. Right. If

1320
00:47:01,911 --> 00:47:03,825
you had to choose, would you rather write

1321
00:47:03,825 --> 00:47:04,644
or direct

1322
00:47:05,181 --> 00:47:05,635
direct

1323
00:47:06,231 --> 00:47:07,740
Oh really? Yeah. Yeah.

1324
00:47:08,694 --> 00:47:10,760
I actually... I can see it. Like, in

1325
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:12,667
your... Like, where you're sitting right now?

1326
00:47:13,238 --> 00:47:14,828
Is, like, you're in a... You're you're like

1327
00:47:14,828 --> 00:47:16,260
in a movie right now. Like you.

1328
00:47:17,134 --> 00:47:17,929
Director is high.

1329
00:47:19,758 --> 00:47:21,189
I can't imagine what what you would do

1330
00:47:21,189 --> 00:47:22,302
if you saw me show up for, like,

1331
00:47:22,541 --> 00:47:24,073
B at your house should be like, okay.

1332
00:47:24,313 --> 00:47:26,071
Let's let's fix up the way you're looking.

1333
00:47:26,311 --> 00:47:27,669
It doesn't quite look right.

1334
00:47:28,309 --> 00:47:29,347
Some lighting issues.

1335
00:47:30,067 --> 00:47:31,825
Comes in goes through makeup and wardrobe before

1336
00:47:31,825 --> 00:47:32,818
the Yeah. Randy.

1337
00:47:35,338 --> 00:47:37,324
No. All are welcome. All are welcome.

1338
00:47:38,755 --> 00:47:40,264
Thank you so much for joining us on

1339
00:47:40,264 --> 00:47:40,820
the podcast.

1340
00:47:41,233 --> 00:47:42,985
It's been wonderful getting to know you. Yeah.

1341
00:47:43,304 --> 00:47:45,215
Absolutely. Thanks for having me, and thanks for

1342
00:47:45,215 --> 00:47:47,286
sharing the... Sharing the word about the movie.

1343
00:47:48,561 --> 00:47:48,879
Perfect.

1344
00:47:49,755 --> 00:47:49,835
Karen.