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Welcome to the Sunshine Gardening podcast

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where we explore all things gardening from urban

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green spaces to thriving home landscapes.

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I'm your host, Kristen Hildebrand.

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And today we're diving into a topic that

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every gardener and homeowner should know, how to

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prune landscape trees correctly.

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This is not just a skill but a

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responsibility

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that comes with maintaining a healthy

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and beautiful yard. We'll delve into the why,

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when, and how of tree pruning with our

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guest, Bowling Green City Arborist Jared Weaver.

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His wealth of knowledge will cover everything from

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timing your cuts to choosing the right tools.

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Plus, we'll share some critical tips for avoiding

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common mistakes that could harm your trees.

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So grab your pruners, and let's get pruning.

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Welcome to the Sunshine Gardening podcast.

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This gardening show will equip and inspire avid

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gardeners with tips and tricks to help them

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navigate the gardening world. The show will also

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highlight specific growing requirements for seasonal plants so

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the sun will shine brighter over their Kentucky

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garden.

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And now, here's that ray of sunshine,

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garden enthusiast and horticulture extension agent, Kristin Hildebrand,

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with the University of Kentucky Cooperative Extension Service.

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Welcome back to the sunshine gardening podcast. And

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joining with us today is Jared Weaver. He

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is the city arborist for Bowling Green. How

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are you, Jared? I'm good. How are you

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today, Kristin?

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I am doing good, and I am so

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glad that you were able to come on

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the podcast with us today because we are

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in a very special week here in Bowling

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tree week 2024.

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And I know that you've had a lot

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of responsibilities

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with tree week, and so we're gonna get

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into a little bit here about tree pruning.

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But just to get the conversation going, can

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you tell us specifically

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maybe explain more about your role as the

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city arborist and what your day to day

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responsibilities

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look like?

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Sure. Absolutely.

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So I work within the parks department of

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the city of Bowling Green. I'm my official

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job title is the city parks arborist slash

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forester.

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As broad picture, that means I take care

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of all the trees in our city parks,

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which involves everything from the planning phase, deciding,

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you know, which trees go where, when to

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prune trees, all that big picture stuff down

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to the the little details of actually physically

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planting the trees,

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monitoring for pests and insects and fungal diseases,

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that sort of thing, pruning and working with

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contractors,

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and actually removing trees when they become at

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the end of their life cycle.

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Yes. So it seems like there's a lot

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involved with being our city arborist, and you

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do such a good job. And I know

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I've been able to work with you on

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the tree board from time to time, and

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you do a great job with the Arbor

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Day celebration. And and that usually is held

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in the month of April. Is that correct?

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year. I think it might be this 3rd

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Saturday this year. I don't remember the exact

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date. But thank you for the compliment. I

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really enjoy taking care of trees. I've been

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doing it with the city for a little

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over 19 years now, so it's a great

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joy to me to be out there among

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the trees on a daily basis and taking

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care of them

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and helping improve our urban forest for the

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residents of Bowling Green.

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lover if I could call it that. And,

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you know, to be a certified arborist, there's

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that you've had to do.

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take a big test and you also keep

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your certifications

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and that does allow you to have that

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tree knowledge.

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Society of Arboriculture,

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to be a certified arborist and take that

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test requires a knowledge of, the biology of

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a tree, everything from the soils through photosynthesis,

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how everything works in the tree,

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and to understand all of those processes that

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happen

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within that tree really gives you a better

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knowledge base to help take care of that

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tree. So I do a lot more than

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just pruning a tree or digging a hole

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and planting into the ground, and understanding the

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biology of that tree really helps me understand

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how that tree will react to pruning at

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different times of the year, why why it's

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a better time of the year to plant

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the tree at a certain time than another

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time. So that basis is really important.

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the ISA exam like, basic climbing techniques, how

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to how to do the practical work as

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well as the theory of that. So it

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covers everything. It's really pretty comprehensive

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certification.

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dive into tree care and like you said,

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knowing more about the the tree processes. And

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questions here at the extension office about this

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particular topic that I have you on the

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podcast about today, and it's specifically about pruning.

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thinks that, you know you can just go

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get your pruning shears and go to town

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but it's really important to know more about

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the tree and the best time of year

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for the tree pruning. So Jared just to

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kind of ask you when is the best

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time of year for tree pruning and does

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that really vary for different tree species?

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The best time of the year for tree

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as a as a big picture is when

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the tree is under the least amount of

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stress.

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the least amount of stress is when they're

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dormant in the wintertime. So for deciduous trees

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when they've dropped all of their leaves off,

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they're kind of gone to sleep for the

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winter. They're not biologically

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as active as they are in the summertime.

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little bit in the winter, not nearly as

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much as they would in the summer though.

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so pruning in the that dormant season is

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the optimum time. We do prune

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throughout the year depending on our scheduling and

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the needs. We can't do everything at the

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best time

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possible, unfortunately. We just don't have that much

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time. So in the summer, if you do

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need to prune a tree, we try to

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limit it

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to pruning broken branches, you know, for for

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storm damage or that sort of thing. But

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if you do have to prune at other

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times of the year, try to do it

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when the tree is not under stress from

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extreme heat or extreme drought stress, that sort

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of thing. We try to avoid those times.

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buds are swelling and emerging, when the leaves

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are emerging in the spring. That's a a

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very transformative time for the tree in the

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spring. Also, right in the fall when the

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leaves are dropping, that's a lot of biological

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activity happening in the tree when they're reallocating

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resources to prepare for that winter

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dormancy.

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tree is undergoing major changes or it's under

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a lot of stress, but the dormant season

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is the best time, generally speaking, for most

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tree work. What about for evergreen

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type of landscape trees? Is that the same

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for the dormant sea? Yes. They'll still be

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semi dormant in the winter. They'll still have

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their needles or leaves on them even if

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the evergreen trees, but they'll still be having

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a lot less biological activity happening in that

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winter season.

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the winter also. So it's the optimum time

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after the leaves fall off of the deciduous

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trees but before the buds start to swell

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know, best time of year for both deciduous

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and evergreen trees. Can you next walk us

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through the basic steps of proper tree pruning?

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Sure. So when we go out to prune

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a tree in the parks, I like to

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teach my employees that we prune we call

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pruning by prescription.

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say, oh, these trees all have to be

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pruned in the park. We wanna know and

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understand exactly why we're pruning that tree. That'll

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help us do a better job of it.

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tree we're pruning is we do a crown

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cleaning,

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that's dead,

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broken, or has generally poor structure. The branches

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are crossing and rubbing on each other, which

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can create an injury to the tree. We

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wanna remove the potential problems for the tree.

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Anything that's, dead or broken has to come

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out for safety reasons. But then if you

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got rubbing branches, if you have a branch

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a a fungal infection, we wanna remove those

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for the health of the tree to make

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it a more long term process for the

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tree. After that, we wanna start looking at

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what that tree is doing in our landscape,

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what function it is it performing,

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and is it meeting that function. So if

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we have a tree that we planted as

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a screen in between 2 separate uses, We

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wanna make sure we keep that canopy of

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that tree as thick and full as possible

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to create that screen.

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or a street or for homeowners, if it's

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near your front walkway or close to your

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house, you may need to prune that tree

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for clearance.

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to a certain height or prune it so

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it's not gonna grow into your front room

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window or or that sort of thing. So

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consider what the function is of that tree

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and prune with that in mind.

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companies and we talk about something called

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directional pruning,

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and they're pruning to make trees grow away

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from the power lines. Any branch that's growing

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towards the power lines, they wanna prune it

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so it grows the opposite direction. And in

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order to accomplish that, you have to look

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at the angle of the branches where that

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how that species of tree tends to naturally

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grow what its habit is. And homeowners can

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apply that as well. If they've got a

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tree planted close to their home, they might

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wanna do some directional pruning so it grows

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away from their home, away from their house,

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away from the gutters, that sort of thing

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to make it grow the right direction. You

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can still plant a tree

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relatively close to other things, but prune it

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while it's young with that future growth in

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mind.

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Exactly. And I appreciate you kinda telling us

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the basic steps of proper tree pruning and

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sometimes you just have to like you said,

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I know directional is one of the things

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and also, you know, for the size for

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the space but just looking at the shape

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of the tree can kinda give you an

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indication on how to prune it because I

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know there's a lot of different shapes

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that are available for a lot of different

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trees too.

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Absolutely.

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Yeah. Yeah. You've got a crab apple tree.

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You would prune a lot differently than you

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would an oak tree because of their mature

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size. You wanna consider that mature size. A

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lot of this goes back, especially if you're

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a homeowner to planting the right tree in

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the right place initially.

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I always like to get that in there

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because, you know, you can minimize

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your pruning needs by planting the right tree

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in the right place at the very start

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of that tree's life.

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So right tree in the right place, you'll

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have to do a lot less pruning overall.

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We often do have to do some corrective

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pruning when we get a tree from the

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nursery. If the listeners ever have a chance

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to go out and look at trees in

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nature and observe them from the time they're

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a seedling through their growth as a sapling

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into a mature tree, Trees in nature are

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usually a lot more sparsely branched than the

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trees we find in a nursery. Nursery grown

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trees, they tend to prune them so they

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look very full when they're young. But, a

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naturally grown tree is gonna be a lot

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thinner, a lot more sparsely branched. And we

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wanna try to mimic nature while we're doing

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our pruning to get that long term structure.

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We wanna look 15, 20, 30 years down

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the road and consider how that tree is

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supposed to look

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naturally

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according to its natural branch habit and it

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its natural growth.

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Absolutely. And it's a lot of fun, especially

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for this particular month that we're in, the

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month of October to be able to get

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in and around the area. I know, you

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know, Lost River Cave is a good spot.

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I know there's several parks that you all

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have worked on to be able to see

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some of these mature trees because, you know,

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like you said, right spot, you know, right

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tree for that right location

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does make a huge difference.

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Now I do have a question, and this

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kinda relates back to improper pruning techniques, but

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how can those

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those improper techniques affect the health and lifespan

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of a tree if you were to maybe,

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like you said, not consider the natural habitat

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of the tree? Good question. The worst pruning

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that we see, we usually call it topping.

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Where they where somebody comes in and they

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arbitrarily cut that tree, they just say, I

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want that tree to be 25 feet tall

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and they cut off every branch. That leaves

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leads to an a lot of problems with

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the tree if you don't consider the natural

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growth patterns of that tree. That leaves large

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wounds where decay can come back into that

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tree. When you do something that severe, you're

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removing all of those buds and foliage that

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that tree has put all of its resources

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into growing.

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Leaves are what provide food to the tree.

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They gather the energy from the sunlight and

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they photosynthesize

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and create the food for the tree. So

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without those leaves and buds that it stored

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all that energy in, you're really starving that

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tree and it causes it to

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use all of its stored energy

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and to create new growth. When it uses

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all of its stored energy, it doesn't have

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that energy to fend off insect and disease

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attacks or compartmentalize

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wounds. So it's really hard for that tree

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to recover if you've basically taken all of

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its capability to make food away from it.

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Yes. And I know that we we do

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try to educate here at the extension office

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about, you know, we don't want you to

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top the tree, but we we want you

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to prune it as natural

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as possible, and you kinda hit on those

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basic steps for proper tree pruning.

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But, yeah, those topping can really, like you

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said, make it more pest attractant for diseases

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and insects.

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Now whenever we go about pruning our trees,

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what tools do you carry or what do

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you recommend for homeowners who do want to

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prune their trees?

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For your average homeowner, I wouldn't recommend climbing

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up in the tree and doing that sort

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of work. It can become very dangerous if

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you if you get up into the tree

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with a chainsaw.

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That's left to the professionals. There's a good

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place to find a certified arborist called trees

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are good.com.

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That's all spelled out words, trees are good.com,

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and you can search for an arborist to

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do those more advanced techniques.

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But for your average homeowner,

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pair of good hand pruners and a a

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good hand saw will accomplish a lot of

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your pruning needs. Everything that's that you can

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reach from this from standing on the ground,

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you can accomplish with a good pair of

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pruners and a good hand saw. If you

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wanna reach a little bit higher, get a

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manual a stick pruner,

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something that's got a lopper on the end

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where you can reach a little higher into

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the canopy of the tree. I would avoid

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chainsaw the pole saw chainsaws

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for most homeowners because that can become dangerous

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as well. You can start to get a

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little tricky when you start pruning larger limbs.

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But if you've got a a hand pruners

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or a pull pruner, you can accomplish a

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lot of work with that. The important things

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for that is to make sure you keep

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your pruner sharp, make sure they're well maintained

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so they function properly, and they don't tear

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the bark on the tree. Yes. I'm glad

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that you, mentioned the trees are good

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website because I know that is where we

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oftentimes

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will send,

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you know, clients that come into the office

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that, do need some professional services

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through a certified arborist.

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And sometimes they you know, if you don't

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feel comfortable getting in a tree and doing

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those type of things, then it's always good

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to call the professionals, and they'd be certainly

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glad to help. Now as far as

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can you tell us kind of some safety

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precautions

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that individuals take when they're pruning trees to

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avoid injury? I know you kinda mentioned that

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about the chainsaw, but are there any others?

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Absolutely. Here at the city, we always we

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have a list of safety rules that we

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have to follow, of course, and for good

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reason. We want everyone to be safe and

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go home just the same at the end

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of the day as the one they came

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to work that morning. So we wear safety

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glasses to protect our eyes from poking branches

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and sawdust.

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Particularly if you're proving anything above your head

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height. If you're if you're cutting with a

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saw, that sawdust can get in your eye

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and that can cause a severe injury to

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your eyes and everyone wants to see to

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enjoy these beautiful trees. A good pair of

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sturdy gloves. If you're doing anything above head

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height using pole pruners, hard hats are recommended.

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But, good sturdy work boots are always nice

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to wear. Something that's gonna provide you a

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little ankle support so you don't twist your

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ankles. But, of course, good work clothes. You

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want something that's gonna resist some abrasions, a

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good pair of pants and a a work

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shirt or a jacket depending on the season.

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Eyeglasses are one of the most important. It's

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it's too easy to get poked in the

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eyes with with a branch or to get

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sawdust in your eye and that can be

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really really irritating in your eyes and cause

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severe injuries.

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Yes and we we do want people to

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feel safe and protected when they are doing

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some of these pruning techniques that we've talked

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about.

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Now as far as the tree removal,

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what do you generally advise people if they're

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doing that on their own rather than using

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a certified arborist?

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If you're getting into tree removal, you might

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be getting the into chainsaw territory.

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And I would highly recommend

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you wearing the full protective gear if you're

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using a chainsaw. Chainsaw chaps, the full helmet

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with the face shield and all that in

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addition to the gloves and the eyeglasses. So

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safety is, of number one importance there. But

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there's a lot of information online,

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both good and bad about how to use

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a chainsaw and remove a tree. There's whole

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classes we teach on this to get down

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into the details, but if it's if you're

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not comfortable using a chainsaw,

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don't take the risk of felling a tree

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if you're not comfortable cutting up something that's

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already on the ground. If you've got storm

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damage, make sure you're paying attention to power

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lines or even if it's not storm damage.

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If you're felling a tree, make sure you're

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paying very close attention to where the overhead

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power lines are. Make sure you look at

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the way that tree is leaning, if it's

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gonna fall one way or another. Gravity is

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a very powerful force. If the tree is

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leaning, the tree is most likely to go

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that way already. But if you have the

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opportunity, take a chainsaw class

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and understand the reactive forces of that chain

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and kick back and understand how to cut

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a proper notch in a tree to make

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it fall the right direction and have the

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best control over that tree so that you're

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minimizing the chances of anything going wrong.

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Mhmm. I appreciate you sharing some of those

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safety precautions with us because pruning, I know

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there's a lot of different equipment that you

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can be utilizing, and I think you've covered

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that basis really well. I wanna do circle

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back and revisit something, and maybe you can

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use specific

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examples with this one too, Jared, if it

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comes to mind. But

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can you share any tips on identifying

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when, like, say, certain tree species do need

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pruning? Is there just, like, a obvious,

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you know, sign that says, oh, this needs

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to be pruned?

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A lot of it depends on, the natural

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growth habit of that tree. Now if it's

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a nursery

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grown tree when it's young, it's probably gonna

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need some corrective pruning

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to help it live its best life and

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grow to be a large mature tree that

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has good structure and good form.

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When it comes to flowering, if you've got

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a flowering tree, trees like, crepe myrtles that

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flower in the summer, you can prune the

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prune those in the fall and they'll form

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their buds in the spring. If you've got

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a spring flowering tree like cherry trees or

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dogwoods,

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you wanna prune those for optimum flowering effect.

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You wanna prune those after the flowers in

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the spring because they're gonna spend that summer

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00:19:17,734 --> 00:19:19,974
growing new flower buds and if you prune

532
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the the dogwood or cherry in the winter,

533
00:19:21,815 --> 00:19:24,134
you're pruning out the flower buds for that

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coming spring.

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So you want to consider your tree health

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00:19:27,849 --> 00:19:30,089
as well as flowering time for those. I

537
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mean, sometimes it's a trade off. If the

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00:19:31,769 --> 00:19:33,549
tree is very healthy,

539
00:19:34,329 --> 00:19:36,170
you can prune it after they flower in

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the spring.

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If a tree might not be the healthiest,

542
00:19:39,654 --> 00:19:41,734
you might consider pruning that in the winter

543
00:19:41,734 --> 00:19:43,494
to take care of those issues and you

544
00:19:43,494 --> 00:19:45,494
might have a few flowers that next spring,

545
00:19:45,494 --> 00:19:47,734
but the long term tree health might be

546
00:19:47,734 --> 00:19:49,894
a bit more important than 1 year's flower

547
00:19:49,894 --> 00:19:50,394
growth.

548
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Very much so. And, I'm glad that you

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did mention that about the flowering trees because

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a lot of times we we do as

551
00:19:57,829 --> 00:19:58,329
homeowners

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00:19:58,630 --> 00:20:00,549
come in contact with those that like that

553
00:20:00,549 --> 00:20:03,269
seasonal color, so it does make a difference

554
00:20:03,269 --> 00:20:05,990
when you're having some of those blooms for

555
00:20:05,990 --> 00:20:06,730
the season.

556
00:20:07,294 --> 00:20:09,054
Now, Jared, I know that we've covered, you

557
00:20:09,054 --> 00:20:10,434
know, basic steps

558
00:20:10,974 --> 00:20:13,294
for pruning trees and then the best time

559
00:20:13,294 --> 00:20:14,835
of year. You've also covered

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00:20:15,134 --> 00:20:18,194
pruning techniques that maybe are not the best

561
00:20:18,335 --> 00:20:21,214
as well as tools and, you know, some

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00:20:21,214 --> 00:20:22,115
safety precautions.

563
00:20:22,549 --> 00:20:24,710
Is there anything else you wanna mention that

564
00:20:24,710 --> 00:20:27,509
homeowners may need to know about pruning trees

565
00:20:27,509 --> 00:20:29,669
that we haven't covered so far? Yeah. It's,

566
00:20:29,990 --> 00:20:31,589
we came back around to this. We talked

567
00:20:31,589 --> 00:20:33,690
about some of the bigger picture things about

568
00:20:33,990 --> 00:20:36,315
overall structure of the tree and everything, But

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00:20:36,315 --> 00:20:38,954
the mechanics of the individual pruning cut are

570
00:20:38,954 --> 00:20:41,355
very important also. If you get a chance,

571
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go out and spend time looking at mature

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trees, and there's terms we use called branch

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00:20:46,634 --> 00:20:48,954
collar and branch bark ridge that you wanna

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00:20:48,954 --> 00:20:51,380
become familiar with. So when you prune a

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00:20:51,380 --> 00:20:53,460
branch off of a tree, you wanna mimic

576
00:20:53,460 --> 00:20:56,359
the way nature would naturally shed that branch.

577
00:20:56,659 --> 00:20:58,579
If a tree has is it getting large,

578
00:20:58,579 --> 00:21:00,500
the lower branches will get shaded out and

579
00:21:00,500 --> 00:21:03,140
they'll naturally die off. Look at that on

580
00:21:03,140 --> 00:21:06,134
mature trees and see exactly how nature sheds

581
00:21:06,134 --> 00:21:07,575
those branches, and that's what we try to

582
00:21:07,575 --> 00:21:08,715
try to wanna recreate.

583
00:21:09,095 --> 00:21:10,535
We have a lot of good information on

584
00:21:10,535 --> 00:21:13,355
our city website about this. That's bgky.org/tree,

585
00:21:15,174 --> 00:21:17,035
or you can look up tree compartmentalization,

586
00:21:18,309 --> 00:21:20,070
And that'll give you a lot of information

587
00:21:20,070 --> 00:21:22,490
about how trees grow, how the tree

588
00:21:22,789 --> 00:21:23,769
tissues overlap,

589
00:21:24,390 --> 00:21:27,029
and why you want to leave that branch

590
00:21:27,029 --> 00:21:28,710
collar on a tree when you prune it,

591
00:21:28,710 --> 00:21:30,390
why you wanna make a good 3 step

592
00:21:30,390 --> 00:21:33,494
pruning cut to avoid tearing bark down the

593
00:21:33,494 --> 00:21:35,575
the trunk of the tree. Make as small

594
00:21:35,575 --> 00:21:37,494
of a wound as possible because every pruning

595
00:21:37,494 --> 00:21:37,994
cut

596
00:21:38,375 --> 00:21:41,414
is essentially a wound to that tree. And

597
00:21:41,414 --> 00:21:43,335
the better pruning cuts that you do, the

598
00:21:43,335 --> 00:21:45,335
smaller injury that to that tree that you

599
00:21:45,335 --> 00:21:47,414
make, the easier that tree is gonna have

600
00:21:47,414 --> 00:21:48,980
a time of compartmentalizing

601
00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,059
and sealing over that wound

602
00:21:51,599 --> 00:21:54,559
and minimizing the chance for fungal organisms to

603
00:21:54,559 --> 00:21:56,160
get in that tree and decay it. I'm

604
00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,000
really glad that you mentioned that. That's a

605
00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,160
very important step that we have when we

606
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,295
go about pruning, and we definitely don't wanna

607
00:22:02,295 --> 00:22:04,454
damage the main trunk of the tree, and

608
00:22:04,454 --> 00:22:06,234
that's really good material to know.

609
00:22:06,535 --> 00:22:08,535
I know that we've covered a lot on

610
00:22:08,535 --> 00:22:10,775
the podcast today, but, you know, saying if

611
00:22:10,775 --> 00:22:11,275
somebody

612
00:22:11,654 --> 00:22:14,795
needs some visuals or they need more information,

613
00:22:15,490 --> 00:22:17,409
Jared, do you have a good spot to,

614
00:22:17,809 --> 00:22:19,750
send them to get that information?

615
00:22:20,690 --> 00:22:21,829
Sure. Bgky.org/tree

616
00:22:23,569 --> 00:22:25,569
is a great website as well as trees

617
00:22:25,569 --> 00:22:26,230
are good.com.

618
00:22:26,849 --> 00:22:28,149
Or if you just Google

619
00:22:28,529 --> 00:22:30,149
natural target pruning,

620
00:22:30,595 --> 00:22:31,795
you should come up with a lot of

621
00:22:31,795 --> 00:22:34,595
information on there. The Arbor Day Foundation also

622
00:22:34,595 --> 00:22:36,595
has some good information on their website about

623
00:22:36,595 --> 00:22:38,515
the mechanics of pruning and how to do

624
00:22:38,515 --> 00:22:39,015
that.

625
00:22:39,315 --> 00:22:41,154
So there's a lot of good websites out

626
00:22:41,154 --> 00:22:43,619
there, but most of those good websites, they're

627
00:22:43,619 --> 00:22:45,220
they're all looking at the way a tree

628
00:22:45,220 --> 00:22:48,259
naturally sheds branches and trying to recreate that.

629
00:22:48,259 --> 00:22:50,099
So spend some time in nature, look at

630
00:22:50,099 --> 00:22:52,420
trees and the way they naturally grow, and

631
00:22:52,420 --> 00:22:54,099
that'll give you a good head start on

632
00:22:54,099 --> 00:22:55,785
how you should be pruning a tree.

633
00:22:56,105 --> 00:22:58,845
Yes. Thank you, Jared, for all that information.

634
00:22:59,065 --> 00:23:01,224
And I know when we opened up the

635
00:23:01,224 --> 00:23:01,724
podcast

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00:23:02,025 --> 00:23:04,505
that we talked about this is tree week.

637
00:23:04,505 --> 00:23:05,005
And

638
00:23:05,384 --> 00:23:08,025
where can people find all the different tree

639
00:23:08,025 --> 00:23:08,765
week activities

640
00:23:09,065 --> 00:23:11,144
that are going on just for say, Bowling

641
00:23:11,144 --> 00:23:11,644
Green?

642
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,240
On our city web city tree board website,

643
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:14,740
bgky.org/tree,

644
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,000
we've got a list of activities there as

645
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:19,759
well as the link to the state tree

646
00:23:19,759 --> 00:23:22,640
week website. The urban forest initiative, I believe,

647
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,974
is who's doing that. They've got activities all

648
00:23:24,974 --> 00:23:26,974
around the state in addition to Bowling Green

649
00:23:26,974 --> 00:23:28,654
about all kinds of great ways you can

650
00:23:28,654 --> 00:23:30,494
get out and join nature and be among

651
00:23:30,494 --> 00:23:32,654
the trees and celebrate all the great benefits

652
00:23:32,654 --> 00:23:33,955
that trees provide us.

653
00:23:34,575 --> 00:23:37,410
Yes. Well, Jared, thank you so much for

654
00:23:37,410 --> 00:23:39,330
being on the podcast with us today. I

655
00:23:39,330 --> 00:23:41,890
know that I'm definitely a lot better at

656
00:23:41,890 --> 00:23:44,390
knowing all the advice and, you know, recommendations

657
00:23:44,529 --> 00:23:47,090
that you shared for tree pruning, and we

658
00:23:47,090 --> 00:23:49,570
invite people to check out some of that

659
00:23:49,570 --> 00:23:51,809
information in the show notes, and we'll get

660
00:23:51,809 --> 00:23:52,470
that posted

661
00:23:53,095 --> 00:23:55,994
up on the Warren County Agriculture blog. But,

662
00:23:56,054 --> 00:23:58,294
Jared, thank you so much for all that

663
00:23:58,294 --> 00:24:00,694
you've talked to us about today, and we

664
00:24:00,694 --> 00:24:02,454
hope that you all have a great tree

665
00:24:02,454 --> 00:24:04,214
week, and we'll be talking to you again

666
00:24:04,214 --> 00:24:06,134
in the future. Thank you. I love talking

667
00:24:06,134 --> 00:24:08,154
trees with you, Kristen. Thank you.

668
00:24:08,750 --> 00:24:10,509
That's a wrap on this episode of the

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00:24:10,509 --> 00:24:12,049
Sunshine Gardening podcast.

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00:24:12,509 --> 00:24:15,409
We hope you've learned valuable tips on correctly

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00:24:15,470 --> 00:24:17,730
pruning trees in Kentucky's landscape.

672
00:24:18,269 --> 00:24:20,129
The key is to plan carefully,

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00:24:20,474 --> 00:24:21,694
prune with care

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00:24:21,994 --> 00:24:22,815
and prioritize

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00:24:23,115 --> 00:24:24,575
the health of your trees.

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00:24:24,954 --> 00:24:27,194
Thank you again to our guest, Jared Weaver,

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00:24:27,194 --> 00:24:28,654
for sharing his expertise.

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00:24:29,035 --> 00:24:31,375
To see the show notes for episode 39,

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00:24:31,595 --> 00:24:33,355
make sure to visit us over on the

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00:24:33,355 --> 00:24:33,855
blog

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00:24:34,330 --> 00:24:34,910
at warrencountyagriculture.com.

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00:24:37,690 --> 00:24:39,630
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Until next time. Remember,

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00:25:04,470 --> 00:25:07,850
a little pruning today means more vital healthier

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00:25:07,990 --> 00:25:10,309
trees tomorrow. We're here to support you on

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00:25:10,309 --> 00:25:12,170
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00:25:12,549 --> 00:25:13,610
happy gardening.

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