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Welcome to the Sunshine Gardening podcast.

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I'm your host, Kristen Hildebrand.

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In today's episode, we'll discuss the beautiful world

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of dahlias.

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Join us as we explore the art of

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cultivating

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these stunning flowers in Kentucky

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with Dennis Morgason, our guest.

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As the Washington County Horticulture Extension agent,

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Dennis has extensive knowledge and experience in growing

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dahlias.

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He'll share his expertise with us from planting

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tips to nurturing strategies

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so that you can grow these beautiful flowers

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in your Kentucky garden.

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So put on your gardening gloves, and let's

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dig in.

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Welcome to the Sunshine Gardening podcast.

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This gardening show will equip and inspire avid

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gardeners with tips and tricks to help them

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navigate the gardening world. The show will also

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highlight specific growing requirements for seasonal plants, so

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the sun will shine brighter over their Kentucky

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garden.

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And now, here's that ray of sunshine, garden

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enthusiast, and horticulture extension agent, Kristen Hildebrand,

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with the University of Kentucky Cooperative Extension Service.

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Joining us today on the Sunshine Gardening podcast

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is Dennis Morgenson.

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How are you, Dennis? I'm pretty good. How

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about you? I'm good. I am so excited

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to talk about dahlias. I think they are

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such a stunning bloom. What are your thoughts

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about it? Oh, I love them. I think

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they're really easy to grow. There's a few

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problems, but not many. And they are absolutely

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gorgeous and they come in a lot of

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different shapes and sizes and colors. Very good

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plant for us to grow and we can

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keep them from year to year if we

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do a few things correctly. They're not hardy.

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They are a tropical plant, but they do

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produce a tuber that we can save. I

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like that fact, you know, that we can

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save it, and that way that we can

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just store it a certain way. And hopefully,

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we'll get into that a little bit later

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in the podcast.

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But I wanted to ask you, with these

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blooms, the dahlia blooms,

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what can listeners kinda do to help maximize

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that bloom size and the color vibrancy

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in their gardens? And you may wanna elaborate

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a little bit more about soil pH here,

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but I know that you've grown dahlias before

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in your garden, and so we're getting the

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best of both worlds. You know, you have

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the research based information side, but you also

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have personal

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knowledge and experience with growing dahlias too. So

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I'm just curious from both those perspectives, what

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do you have to share? Well, I guess

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the biggest thing about maximizing bloom is pick

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the correct variety. The dinner plate types will

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have the largest blooms.

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Usually in Kentucky, it's a little bit too

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hot to get the largest bloom you can

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get. Usually tell people, like, 1 year I

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actually had dinner plate size, but we had

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a really cool July. Even with the tropical

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plants, when it gets really hot, the blooms

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don't size up as well. I tell them

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that we're gonna go more for saucer size

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in Kentucky instead of dinner plate.

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And then Kelvin Fuddlite is a yellow dinner

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plate, and that one's gonna give you the

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biggest bloom out of just about anything you

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can buy readily and plant in your garden.

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It's a really good variety.

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size, we do need the correct cultivar, the

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correct weather. And usually we're gonna pinch our

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values. We're gonna talk about that in a

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minute. I know, but if you let that

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first bloom come up on that dinner plate,

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that's gonna be your biggest flower.

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big. There's something to keep in mind that

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you're just wanting really huge flowers.

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of dahlias, they're like so many colors or

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so many shapes.

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what that you have to offer. And I'm

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glad you talked about the dinner plate dahlias

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because I know that growing up at my

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home, we always had the dinner plate dahlias,

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and those were so pretty to put in,

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like, a bubble size vase and then just

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add a little bit of water. And it

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looked like a water lily. It was so

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large. Right. They're pretty. They're really nice. I

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have a picture somewhere, but with plate next

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to it just where I I could prove

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that I didn't have one that big once.

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it with me later and I'll add it

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Will you kinda maybe elaborate on maybe which

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ones that you have found successful in the

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garden? I know you kind of mentioned a

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few things just in that opening statement, but

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maybe you found some other cultivars that work

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well. There's some other cultivars. Usually there's a

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bishop, like it's a bishop series, but it's

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a smaller red flower, but the plant has

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the purple leaves and it gets about 3

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to 4 foot tall, but it will bloom

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heavily as long as you keep it deadheaded

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the entire summer. It's one of the easier

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ones to grow. And then a lot of

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Tahitian sunset is a cactus flowered one, it's

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really easy to grow. There's just so many

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out there. Most of them need the same

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conditions no matter what size they are. But

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the Bishop series, I think it's closer to

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the wild type, and I think that's why

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it does so much better than a lot

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of the other types. Interesting, I didn't know

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that. You said Bishop series? Yes. Okay. Don't

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hold me to that name, but that's close.

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and those cactus, dahlias, they're really interesting. They're

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more pointed at the ends of the blooms.

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more like that, the little rose petals and

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spiky on the ends. But you can get

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up to 2 tone colors. You can get

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single flowers, doubles,

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large flowers, little flower, whatever you want. There's

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a dahlia out there for you. And it

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seems like the dahlias

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are very desirable from a florist standpoint, and

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you're gonna elaborate a little bit more about

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planting. But generally, for us here in Kentucky,

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we get them in the fall. Is that

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correct? Starting in summer, going into fall, and

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up better later in the season. If you're

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looking for those perfect flower, that's usually when

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you're gonna get them. That's usually why they

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have the actual shows where they bring their

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blooms in and have a show to see

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who's got the best, whatever. That's usually in

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the fall. That's usually in the fall. Yeah.

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I know they're very desirable

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for other functions as well. So I was

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just curious to kinda know what cultivars

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work good for you. Now I know you

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mentioned that dahlias are more of a tropical

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need to go through here in Kentucky for

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preparing the soil for planting of dahlias?

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like every other plant that we grow around

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here in Kentucky, but I'm sure you're down

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in Warren County, you've got plenty of clay

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soil down there just like we do. So

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whatever organic matter you can mix in is

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gonna help loosen that soil. It's also gonna

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help keep that soil from being too wet

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these are a tropical tube, but they can

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rot pretty easy, but any kind of aged

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manure, organic matter, peat, any of that's gonna

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soil to help loosen it up. It's also

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gonna make it easier for you to dig

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them in the fall. The looser the soil,

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the better off you're gonna be. And then

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starting to sprout, come to the ground, then

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you put your mulch on, but don't put

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it on before that. And then the mulch

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is gonna help even out your water situation.

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plant and a bigger root system. I like

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all those tips that you had there for

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really preparing the soil, and I don't think

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I'd really thought of the fact that you

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do want it loose so that way when

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you do lift them, that way you can

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store them and that's a lot easier at

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that point as well. What time frame are

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we looking at for planting dahlias?

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to late April up into May. If I

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warmer down there, I'd probably just wait until

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May 1st. That soil temperature needs to be

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60 degrees or above at least to activate.

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gonna run a risk of rot. So you

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may as well just wait until we get

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our warm weather and then go ahead and

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plant it. And you're probably if you overwintered

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any of them, you're gonna see little growth

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already starting by now probably. Mhmm. What kind

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of plant spacing are we looking at? Because

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some of these can be fairly large. Generally,

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it's 18 inches on the larger types, and

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ones. They wanna do about a foot tall.

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to do an extension PSA, get a soil

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but the organic matter is always gonna be

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good. Just don't overdo

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the organic matter, say the manure or something

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like that, because then you might just get

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a lot of growth and not as many

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flowers. So you've got to even that out

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to make sure you don't over fertilize.

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in your soil test will probably be able

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to indicate what kind of blooms that you're

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looking at. Right. And it just depends on

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where you are and what your soil types

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are. And maybe you're living in a new

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house and that soil has been just obliterated

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from building. You're gonna have to add more

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organic matter, really loosen that up, get that

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going. What are your thoughts, Dennis, on raised

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bed situations? Is that a good location for

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as you can get in there and dig

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them in the fall, but that'll make it

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a lot easier probably for you to amend

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that soil in that location if you've got

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really hard clay or something like that. And

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these are fine for raised beds. You will

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have to stake the tall varieties because they

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will fall over, so all the larger flower

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types are going to be staked. It may

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be a bamboo stake, it may be a

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tomato cage, it may be whatever you want

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to use just to hold them up off

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the ground. I was gonna say it seems

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like even for wind damage, just by staking

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them, like you said, with a couple of

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those different materials or options that you have

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can be really helpful. Because even in the

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summertime, we do have some storms that depending

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on your location, the wind Well, not August.

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We usually have few rounds of thunderstorms with

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pretty strong winds. And dahlia stems, they haven't

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grown them before, are hollow inside. So that's

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not a solid stem, so that's why they

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can blow over pretty easy. There's even a

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giant tree dahlia in South America

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that the Aztecs used to use to drink

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out of. I'm telling you how big that

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dahlia stem was down there. The value well,

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actually, they found them growing with the Aztecs.

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They were planting them and growing them. So

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they've been around a while and cultivated by

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humans for a while. Yeah. I like that

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history that you gave us too. Now going

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back to the staking just for a second,

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do you recommend staking as you plant or

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do you recommend

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doing that a little bit later after they

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get established?

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You can wait until they get established, but

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honestly, if you're like me, if you don't

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go ahead and put something out there at

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the time you plant, you're gonna forget about

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it. Plants will start growing and you're gonna

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be like, well, that's fine. And then we'll

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have a windstorm and your plants fell down.

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Got a bloom that's big as a saucer

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or dinner plate, that plant needs something to

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support. But I'd like to go ahead and

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just put something out there just like when

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you plant a tomato, go ahead and put

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a stake there or a cage or whatever.

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And that way, you've already got that taken

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care of, you know, for the growing season.

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Yeah. I'm kinda in the same boat as

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you, Dennis. You know, I have the best

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of intentions, but time does get away from

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you. And so it's better just to go

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ahead, I feel like, and do it all

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at one time that fits my schedule.

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One time, and that way you don't have

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to worry about it again later on and

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then end up with a mess. Yeah. We

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want you to be successful, so maybe just

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go ahead and do it as you're doing

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it. I do have a question. You mentioned

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the soil test there. Go ahead and get

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the soil test done. Don't guess, and we

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can give you specifically what you need for

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your soil depending on where you're located at.

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But what about additional fertilizer?

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Do dahlias need extra fertilizer?

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They're heavy bloomers, so they're gonna need additional

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fertilizers. And usually we'll do something like and

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I know people don't wanna do a soil

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test. I don't know why people just I

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don't know. But anyway, if you don't do

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a soil test and know exactly what you

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need, I recommend a half a cup of

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triple 10 at planting

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and then a month later and do that

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each month until August and then stop because

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there's no reason to get a lot of

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new growth

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later in the summer, whenever you're just gonna

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have to cut that plant back. And that's

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because if you get too much nitrogen in

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there

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later in the fall, I mean, you go

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to dig those tubers won't keep as well,

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they get kind of funky and fleshy. Yeah,

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we wanna make sure we have those beautiful

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blooms later on. We don't wanna have all

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that growth. So I appreciate the recommendation there

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on the fertilizing.

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And so that way we kinda know about

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what to expect, what to have on hand

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when we need it. Now I know you've

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already mentioned about pinching and disbudding

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dahlias.

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So what are your general rules of thumb

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on those techniques and why they're so important?

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Basically, what we're trying to do is increase

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the size of the plant, the branching, and

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that's gonna give us more flowers, especially on

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the regular types that have the smaller flowers

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and you're not trying to maximize

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one big large flower just for you to

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show off.

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But, we like to pinch the top one.

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It's about a foot tall. Just pinch that

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top bud out, and then we'll get side

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branching, and then you can let those side

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branches grow and you get a lot more

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flowers later. It's also gonna keep the plant

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a little bit shorter, which is also going

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to help it from not flopping as much

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later on and it might keep you from

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having to shake as much as you might

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otherwise. It's just good for the plant and

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for flower production.

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Okay. I know that that might be a

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new term for some people maybe listening to

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us, and so I know that that can

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be very helpful, especially

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long term. Now I know as we go

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according to the season that we have on

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growing and it can be very different from

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year to year. We run into pests,

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and they can be a problem for dahlias.

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Can you kind of elaborate on what pests

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that you've noticed have been a problem for

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Kentucky gardeners when they grow dahlias and how

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they can mitigate those or help control? In

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the spring, you could have a slug problem

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when these first are starting to grow. And

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if you notice that, then you're gonna have

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to control the slugs. You can get slug

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bait and sprinkle around, and that usually takes

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care of them in one night. It's actually

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got the active ingredient that the brand name

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is 7. It's carbaryl in it. Now if

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you're wanting to go more of an organic

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method for these, you can take on a

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coffee can and bury it down to the

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top of the can and just put some

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beer in it, and that malt will cause

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them to come to it and they'll fall

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in a drown.

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Doesn't have to be alcoholic beer. It could

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be a near beer. It's just the malt

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that they're coming for. Those are the 2

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easiest ways to get rid of slugs. Other

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pests you're gonna have every year,

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you're gonna get Japanese beetles.

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They're gonna be on your blooms every year.

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There only one way to get rid of

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those, if they're on the bloomer, that's to

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pick them off in the morning and put

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them in soapy water. Usually, in the mornings,

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while it's still dewy, they're cool and wet

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and they can't fly as easily. But you

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can't spray an insecticide on those blooms for

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Japanese beetles because we don't want to kill

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the pollinators. They generally don't bother the foliage

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much, it's usually the flowers they go for.

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So another thing is you just go

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out and cut them while the Japanese beetles

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are in season and bring your flowers indoors

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and enjoy them indoors. The last thing that

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usually will get on are thrips. And this

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is really a vein for people that like

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to show their flowers at shows and things,

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because when those little thrips scratch and eat

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at that bloom, it makes a pink spot

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and turns color.

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And that if you're in a class to

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show flowers, then that bloom is no good.

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Those are gonna be insecticidal

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soaps or something like that to get rid

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of those.

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Generally, you could also, if you're wanting perfect

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blooms, you could cover the plants with the

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mesh, they have a mesh nail that's like

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Remade fabric, but it's got a tighter mesh

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and little insects can't even get through it,

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but light goes through. That's just for people

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who wanna show homeowners, we don't mind a

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few little big spots and a white flower

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once in a while. Yeah. We,

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look elsewhere. We're not as that judge that

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wants that perfect bloom.

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Now I had a quick question while you

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were talking there, and it relates to the

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harvesting

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of dahlias.

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Is there any specific tips that you have

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for dinner plate versus some of the smaller

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ones, or is there a good hard fast

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rule that you go by when harvesting?

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If you wanna harvest the flowers

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indoors, there is a thing that can help

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them last a lot longer. And if you

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don't do this, they won't last very long

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at all indoors. When you cut them, you

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bring them in and you put that stem

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in a bucket of hot water. I'm talking

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a 160 to a 180 degrees. That's pretty

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hot. That is hot. You're just gonna set

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them in there, just that cut stem part,

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and let them sit until that water cools

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on its own. And what that does is

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that sets the flower and they'll last 4

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to 6 days after that. So they last

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a lot longer. It's kinda similar to what

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we do with poppies when we bring those

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in and they actually burn the stem with

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a lighter, that latex that seals the plant.

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That's kinda the same thing with these dahlias

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and they last longer. Yeah. Well, I don't

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know if a lot of people realize the

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hot water helps them

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last longer, but anything that we can do

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to help prolong the life of our bloom

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is really good, especially when we can enjoy

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it.

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I do have a question, like whenever you

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harvest your dahlias,

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what are you doing with yours? Are you

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making arrangements or are you just bringing them

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inside? I'm making arrangement. It may be a

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bunch of different things mixed with dahlias. I

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know in the fall when I know it's

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gonna be a frosted breeze, I will cut

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every bloom I have and have bouquets all

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over the house until I just didn't enjoy

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them because you know that's the end of

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the season. But generally I mostly keep my

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flowers outdoors because I mean, I like to

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look at them outdoors too. Yeah, you definitely.

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If you don't have a wood test that

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I know is gonna ruin it that day,

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I'll go ahead and cut them. I was

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gonna say, they're always really fun to see

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outside when you're actually watching it grow. I

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feel like, especially when you've started it at

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a younger plant size and then you get

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it on it to bloom size too. I

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was just curious because I have seen some

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designers with dahlias, they've taken pumpkins

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and cored out the middle. I just was

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curious what Dennis did. Yeah. You can use

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them in any way you would use any

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other flowers pretty much, cut flowers, not dried

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flowers, and then they won't do that. But

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fresh flowers, they're good. Yeah. I love it.

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Now to kinda end on what we're talking

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about today with dahlias,

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are there some, like, challenges or advantages

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of growing dahlias in Kentucky that you feel

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like is definitely

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why gardeners would wanna have dahlias in their

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garden?

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I think they're good because we have a

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long growing season compared to a lot of

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the country.

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And these are tropical plants, so they get

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a good long growing season here and we

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get a nice long bloom time out of

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them. The other thing I think is

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you can dig these year to year and

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they will multiply and you will have some

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to give away too. And as long as

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you store them properly, you'll have them. Another

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way to store them is in the fall

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when we have our first freeze, you just

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go out, cut that foliage back, dig that

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tuber,

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and it's gonna be a bunch of tubers

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and they've gotta be connected to that main

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stem. Because if a tuber breaks off and

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it doesn't have a piece of that main

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stem, it will never grow, not like a

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potato. But you just dig that whole thing

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up, try to shake most of the soil

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off and bring it in and put them

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in like a wood basket with peat in

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it. And they do a lot better if

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they have a little bit of some kind

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of semi moist and I say semi, I

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mean, I'm pretty much the same as what

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you buy at storage, it's dry, but it's

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not like it's in the air. So it's

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got something covering it. You can also try

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newspaper if you wanna put over them, and

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then they just gotta stay in a cool

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dry place wherever it doesn't freeze. So other

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than that, that's easy. Actually, I have somebody

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that brought 2 of those large cattle tubs

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that mineral comes in, He grows some dahlias

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that Elena gave him years ago and every

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year they multiply.

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So I've got 2 tubs sitting in our

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project room that's been in there all winter

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and they're still good. So when I have

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my dahlias class, people will get some of

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those too. So we're gonna spread those around.

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I like that. I like that. And I

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have several of those laying around my house.

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So, yeah,

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I was gonna say, I do have a

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cattle farmer. So anyway, I love that we've

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talked about dahlias. You've basically

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started us at the beginning, talked about cultivars,

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soil, everything all the way to harvest too,

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and especially pests to watch out for. If

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folks were to have questions

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about growing dahlias,

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is there a certain like publication or resource

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or

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maybe a website to go to that would

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be helpful? Probably. I mean, they can always

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search. I used to tell people they can

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search Google and then put Cooperative Extension behind

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it and ask, but you're gonna get a

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lot of publications from, may not be UK,

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but you can get some around states close

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to us. Also the American Dahlia Society, and

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you can just type that into a search

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engine and that'll pop right up.

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And they have what they call a Dahlia

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University, which is just their little site on

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their site with all the information and things

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that you can go to get educational and

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research. I love that. I didn't know they

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had a Dalet University.

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That's what I called it.

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Yeah. Well, I hope that folks that are

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listening felt like they got a little bit

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of Dalet University here. So, Dennis, thank you

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so much for being on the podcast, and

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I do wanna put a plug in. You

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were on the podcast several episodes ago, but

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if you wanna go back and listen to

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the one on peonies,

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that's in an earlier episode if you wanna

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keep on scrolling down. I certainly appreciate you

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being on the podcast, and we hope to

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have you back for another future episode on

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cut flowers

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again later on. I'd be happy to. Thanks.

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As the petals fold on this episode of

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the Sunshine Gardening podcast,

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we thank our guest, Dennis Morgason, for sharing

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his expertise and joining us on the podcast

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today.

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We hope you've enjoyed our deep dive into

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growing dahlias in Kentucky.

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Remember, with some care and attention,

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your dahlia garden can become a stunning sight

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whether you are an experienced gardener or just

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starting.

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Thank you for tuning in. To view the

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show notes for episode 29,

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visit me over on the blog at warrencountyagriculture.com.

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