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Welcome to the Knife Junkie Podcast. Your weekly dose of knife

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news and information about knives and knife collecting. Here's your

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host, Bob The Knife Junkie DeMarco.

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Welcome to the Knife Junkie podcast. I'm Bob DiMarco. On this

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edition of the show, I'm speaking with L.T. Wright of L.T.

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Wright Knives. Lt Wright Knives are known to be some of the most

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sought after outdoors and bushcraft knives on the market.

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And having had a chance to check out his large northern hunter,

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loaned to me by a generous viewer, it's obvious why

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his work is beautiful to both the eye and the hand. And

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his knives excel at every manner of outdoor, domestic and

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hunting tasks. He started out making hunting knives

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but broadened his vision and scope. And with the help of a loyal customer

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base, he's honed in on his own knife making niche.

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L.T. nice to have you on the show, sir. Hey, well thanks

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for having me. I appreciate that. It's my pleasure. I've

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been, I've been, I've been observing your knives for

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a long time and as I mentioned up front, had the chance to check

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out the large northern hunter and man, it really

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impressed me. But then just doing some research

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into you a lot impressed me. You've been a knife

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guy or interested in knives since the very start.

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Tell us a little bit about that. Well, I've always been,

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like you said, interested in knives. I was very lucky

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growing up. My dad was a hunter so I got to experience

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knives through him. He liked knives. So naturally,

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you know, you kind of gravitate to what your dad likes. I mean that always

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happens, right? So when we, when I was

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very little I he take me hunting and I

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remember one of my very first Christmas gifts was a knife of some

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kind. You know, I don't, I don't recall exactly what that was.

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But getting to go in the woods with my dad, the funnest part of the

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day was two things. He let me play with my knife when

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we got to wherever we were going to hunt. And then I got to eat

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lunch in the woods. I don't know why. That was just like, you know, you

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sit there and it's like, dad, can we eat lunch yet? Son, we just got

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here. You know, it was that kind of thing. So then he'd let me play

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with my knife. I could whittle a stick or some things. And that was just

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a really fun thing. So that's kind of where my knife

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journey started. Definitely with my dad, there's. There's no doubt about it.

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And I, you know, growing up, I remember laying at the bottom of his

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refiner looking through Field and Stream, Outdoor Life,

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not at the articles, at the ads, because I

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wanted, if you remember the, the US Navy

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knife or the USMC knife, it was like 10 bucks. The old K

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bars back then in the 70s. And I would just stare at that quarter

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page ad going that night. You know, I can

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just remember doing that. It was, it was such a good time. What

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do you think it is about knives themselves that had the

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young LT Wright, the boy LT Wright, so

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fascinated. Tarzan. Straight up

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Tarzan. Okay. I mean, as a kid, you know, my grandfather was

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a big Tarzan fan. So I'd get to go over there on Saturday

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afternoons and you'd have the matinee and he'd always be watching Tarzan.

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Tarzan had a loincloth and a knife and the guy survived

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his whole life with that. So it kind of set you on a journey right

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there. So definitely that was kind of what it was.

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And my parents, I played in the woods with my friends a lot and we

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were allowed to carry a knife out into the woods. So I had an old,

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you know, hurt. Actually. I got my, my father

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left, let me have is Hertz knife that

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used to be a catalog and they had a knife in there and it was

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again, five or ten bucks. And literally it's a version

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of a, an old hickory butcher knife. So it was

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kind of, you know, again, this is in the early 70s,

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so I'm super happy. It's about a 4 inch blade,

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very Kephart design. And I still have that knife

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to this day. It's downstairs. So I, I definitely,

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I was really into that. But it was, it was definitely Tarzan getting the

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play in the woods with my friends. We'd run around with our knives and again,

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just weren't really bushcrafting. We Were probably

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just sharpening sticks and throwing them. Yeah,

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no doubt. Yeah. Your mention of Tarzan. I've

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talked a lot on this show about how for me it was Daniel Boone, Grizzly

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Adams, Land of the Lost. A lot of those shows in the, in the 70s,

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guys always had knives on their, on their belts and it meant

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self reliance. You know something about that? Yeah,

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absolutely. There is no doubt that a knife

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definitely opened a lot of doors for me as a young person

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later on studying martial arts and stuff. Knives,

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the defense of and the use of that intrigued me

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quite a bit too. So going from hunting into the, I guess you would call

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it the tactical side of things a little bit. And

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then from there it went into the bushcraft. You know,

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bushcraft was a, and still is a very

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large part of what we do. So tell me about the martial arts aspect.

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That is not something that I was thinking of.

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Well, just that was the other thing, you know, when you were a kid.

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About that time was the series Kung fu was on TV with David

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Carradino, you know, the 70s. So I got very interested in the martial

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arts and was lucky enough that I spent my whole life pretty

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much doing one form or another. So as you're doing that

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again, weapons defense, learning how to defend yourselves against knives,

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sticks, guns and stuff is an important part of that

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journey. And in that was learning how to use the

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knife in an offensive manner if you ever had to. So that

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was kind of where that went. But today it's more for

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me cooking bushcraft, still hunting,

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but I have to say the most use of my knives today are in

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the kitchen with my wife. She'll push a whole pile of vegetables over on

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my side and say, let's put these in jars. And, and I

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gotta be honest, man, I love. We put on some music and I will stand

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there all day with a cutting board and cut

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vegetables and fruit. I, I, I just love doing that.

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That sounds blissful. That's like a good Sunday at our house.

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Except we eat it, we eat it immediately instead of jar.

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Well, yeah, we, we spend a lot of time. We, we have food

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prep Saturdays and it's one of those things, you know, we try not to, we

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try to use everything. She's making soups out of the skins of

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this, that and the other vegetable and, you know, or broth and we're filling

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jars and dehydrating, you name it, we're putting stuff up.

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So how did it come to be that you thought, well, maybe I

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can make these things? Well, it all started

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again. You had the Love of knives pretty much all the

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time. You know, as a young kid, we all carried a pen

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knife, you know, a two bladed something or other.

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Probably a case of some sort when I was very, very young

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or the Barlows. Barlow was. I remember having a

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whole bunch of them as a kid. You know, that was, that was something.

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And then as you got into it a little

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more, I, I kind of happened along this idea.

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I wanted to make a knife for my dad. It was literally that.

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And I was thumbing through some

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magazine. It might have been Blade. Uh, you know, that

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was the other thing. I would go grocery shopping with my

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wife and back then we had really good magazine racks on the curve.

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Yeah, I mean, right. So I, I say we would go

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shopping. She would go shopping and come and get me when she was done

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and say, you know, grab the one you're buying and let's go. So.

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And then they would have knives illustrated, they would have tactical knives, they

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would have Blade. Probably a couple ones that I've even forgotten by then.

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So I would just sit there and thumb through them. And I believe I

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saw an ad in there for a company that's no longer in

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business now. It was called Koval's Knife Supplies and they happened to be out

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of Ohio. And I thought, wow, it'd be kind of cool to make my dad

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a knife for Christmas. So I ordered one of their kidnaps. You

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know, not in. But this has nothing to do with me becoming a knife.

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This was literally, I was making a Christmas gift for my

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father. Being professionally, I was a

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carpenter and we were interior trim carpenters. So

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we had a good idea about fit and finishing woods and doing different

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stuff. Yeah. So I thought, I'm gonna get this and I'm gonna use some wood

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from one of the job sites or something and make him a nice knife.

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Why I ended up doing that and it turned out really, really nice.

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And I was very happy with it. I thought the fit and finish was real

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good, so gave it to him for Christmas.

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Never really thought anything more of it. I'm not even sure if I had planned

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on making myself or not. Then I just started

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messing around with some old pocket knives, you know, just getting

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the rust off on practice and sharpening, you know, you know, just.

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It was loose. Just learning, teaching myself how to tighten it up. Just, just really

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plain, seriously, like go to work, come home at night, you know,

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eat supper and go downstairs for a little bit and just mess around

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again, not thinking about making knots.

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So my dad takes his knife to work and he was A project

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manager on a construction site at that time. And he

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showed it to a couple of guys, and guys went, man, I want one.

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Would he make me one? And he goes, I don't know. I can ask

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him. So it turned out that

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he had a few of the guys there wanting to make.

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Have me make them a knife. I'm like, dad, I don't make knives. And he

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said, well, just do what you did for me. I was like, okay. You know,

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so I. I got a couple more and put them together and

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didn't really know how to charge for them, so I just come up with a

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number, and the guys scooped them right up. And I'm like, wow, that was pretty

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cool. I didn't have to work hard for that, you know. And then that

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I dawned on me as, like, you know, out of all the hobbies I had,

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you and I were talking about guitars and stuff. They never really pay you

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back. You spend a lot of money

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on hot rods. Okay, I have. I spent. I went down that

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rabbit hole, and I still have one out in the garage. Guitars, you

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know, there's just stuff that you just. You spend money

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on. Well, here I am. I. This little kind of hobby. Now, when I say

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hobby, I've only made a couple, right? But it is like

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something I made, and the guys wanted to give me money for it. I was

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like, well, that's kind of cool. So I was

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kind of interested. And then I started talking to my wife about it, like, hey,

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this nice thing, you know, she looks at me, she goes, all

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these hobbies you've had all your life, you know, the martial arts.

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You spend tons of money doing that. Guns,

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collecting knives at the time, you know, again,

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cars, guitars, all that. She said, you're not. No

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house money goes to this hobby. Oh, okay. I was like,

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all right. So literally, she said she set the goal for

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me. Or. Or the boundaries. Like, if you're going to be messing around with

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this knife thing, it better pay for itself. Yeah.

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I was like, okay. Well, but surprisingly, to me, it

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was kind of easy to get it to pay for herself. So

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I'd get a couple kit knives. And then

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another thing that I did early on to teach myself how to do

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things was, you know, that late at night, if you stay up, you can

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buy these 50 knives for $50. Yeah,

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well, some of the guys would buy that, and they would go to a gun

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show and then sell them off for a few bucks a piece. Well, I would

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go to a gun show and I'd buy two or three of Those things, bring

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them home, bust the handles off of them, take my

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hand grinder and regrind a profile, change the shape, and then put new

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handles on them just to practice fit and finish. Because I had

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nothing invested. And surprisingly, people wanted those.

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Oh, wow. You know, after I did that, so I was like, okay, 20 bucks.

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You know, I'm just. Just trying to make my money to where I'm breaking even.

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I don't. So it was a real

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interesting start into this

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hobby. And after I. I made a few of the kit

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knives, I got enough money to. To

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I. I might be able to buy a grinder stuff. And

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about that time is when I had the opportunity

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to meet R.W. wilson. Okay,

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so the story behind that. My. One of my buddies

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was going to a gun show local to our house here.

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And he goes, you want to go? I was like, I don't. I've been

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to a bunch of gun shows. Like, like, all right. So I went up with

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them, and I'm just walking around, got my hands in my pocket, you know, not

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really wanting to buy anything, and I came across this table I'd never seen

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before, and it had a whole bunch of knives and tomahawks on.

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And I was just intrigued. I was like, wow, this is really

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cool. And I'm just kind of looking around, the guy's sitting there. And I. And

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I kind of was, boy, I sure would like to know how to make

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those, you know, just half kidding. And he

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just went, well, I can teach you. And I went, what?

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He goes, I can teach you where you live. I said, I live right over

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here. And he goes, well, I live right over here. We're 10 minutes apart. He

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said, I can teach you. I said, well, that sounds good. And he says, why

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don't you come over tonight? I was like, seriously? He's like,

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yeah. So I. I again,

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real. At that time, I didn't know really who he was. I just knew that

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whatever, he knew how to make knives. He was very, very good.

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So I got the opportunity, told my wife, like, hey, I gotta go. I

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gotta go check this out and go see what's going on at least. I said,

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at least then I know what kind of equipment or you know, what I need

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for a grinder or thing. Yeah. So I went over there,

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and when I walked into his house, on the

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wall, there was a bunch of tomahawks

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fanned in an array. And I was like, wow, that is

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really cool. I said, what is that? And he

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nonchalantly just looked over his shoulder. He goes,

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Those are the tomahawks I made for the movie Jeremiah Johnson in

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seven. Oh, no way. No, dude, I did exactly

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what you just did. I went, nah, are you kidding? And he turned around and

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walked into the shop. And I'm standing there dumbfounded, like my

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favorite movie of all time. And you made the call. Are you kidding me?

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Seriously, like, who is this guy? I was

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like. I started hanging out. I would go over.

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At that time, my job quit at about 2:30. I was home by

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3:30. I was at RW's by 4:30. It was like,

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I come home, kiss the wife, what chores need done, eat

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dinner. And then I went over his house almost every night.

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Now, he did not let me do,

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like, make the night. Okay. But what he

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did do was let me watch

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and just simply,

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like, cut stuff out. So I would be on the bandsaw

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and I would get to cut the knives out. All right?

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And that was a. That was a lot of fun. He. He would

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take a bunch of steel and weld it together so it's like five

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blades thick. And then he would take and grease

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pencil the top of it. And I would stand there on a bandsaw. And if

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you ever ran a metal bandsaw, number one, it runs slow with one piece

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of steel. Well, imagine if you're pushing five pieces of

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stacked steel through there. But that's how he did it. He just weld each edge,

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and then you would just cut out all five blanks at once, and then you

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were done. Okay. So that was. That was a.

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A really cool thing. Well, what would happen is. And I would just get the

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band because it moved so slow. I could stick my hand way

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over here and run it on the bandsaw. And then I could look over his

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grinder and watch him grind. So I was kind of doing two

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things. I was cutting out these blanks for him and I was grinding.

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So that was a very good

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training tool for me, that. And his name

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was R.W. wilson, if anyone ever gets a chance. Sadly, he's passed on,

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but he made some fantastic knives and tomahawks. He

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was very well known for his tomahawk. Matter of fact, I

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think. Well, it was in the 70s. He made, I believe,

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500 tomahawks, the Texas Rangers, for one of their

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anniversaries. And I. And when he went to present

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that to them to make the tomahawks, he had a tomahawk with him.

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Well, I own that tomahawk. Oh. So I had. I have

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serial number 000. So I'm

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pretty proud of that, that is pretty amazing. You apprenticed with him

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basically, even though maybe you didn't call it that, but.

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So what was the first knife you made and you know, from

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scratch? And what was that process

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like, including design? How did you make your first knife?

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I started out making what I would consider patch

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knives. If you're into muzzleloaders. Yeah, the patch knife

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is just a cutting knife. And I saw this design again by

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going to the gun shows. You know, I go to the gun shows and there

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were people selling, you know, replica antiques or,

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or just some patch knives they had, they had made or some things.

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And I really was intrigued by that. The acid etched look of them.

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Maybe they had bone handle on them, maybe they had a little bit of antler

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handle on them. And I started making patch knives.

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Well, at first I really didn't know any steel

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suppliers or anything, so I would just use old saw blades because again, I

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was a carpenter. So I had all these old used saw blades that were no

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good. And I went out and I bought

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a. Well, first I would just bring them home and

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take my angle grinder and cut them out. Just literally cut them out as

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close as I could get them, put them in a vise and then just grind

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them down the shape. And my first teaching myself how

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to. How to grind. This was a little bit pre RW. Again,

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carpenter background. I have a 2 by 21

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belt sander. Turn it upside down in the

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vise, tape the trigger on, and I'd stand there and

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grind this way on a little 2 by 21. So I'd go to

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Sears, we had a Sears here at the time. And I'd buy all the. The

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roughest grid I could find, whatever it was, bring it home and

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just wear them out. And that's how I taught myself how to grind.

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And it looks as bad as what you think it might because they were

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wrong, they were rough. But it was a

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great place to start and practice. It was the practice, the

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repetition. It's like anything you gotta stand. People ask me

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like, how do you get good at grinding knives? I said grinding knives. I mean,

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there's no other thing. I can tell you all the way. I can show

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you every intricate, this, that or the other. You have to stand in front of

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that grinder, you have to make those mistakes and you have to learn how to

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fix them. It's like, how do you get it? How do you get good at

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punching reps? Exactly. Reps.

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So let me ask you this. A big hurdle for a lot of people who

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want to get into knives and, or want to get into making knives

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is, oh, I can't afford all the equipment. What did you learn

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from taking the. The 2 by 22 or 2 by 21,

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whatever you said that was, and jury rigging it so that you could grind.

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What did you learn from that? Very rudimentary

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sort of way of doing it. Yeah. And this goes for. If

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anyone is listening and they're like, man, it costs a lot of money

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to get into the hobby or into the business.

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It depends on how you look at things. And that goes for anything in life.

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You can make it hard by the way you think about things, or you can

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make it a little bit easy by becoming creative

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with stuff. And one of the things that started for me was exactly that. I

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used that 3 by 20. It's like a 3 inch by 21

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belt sander. Turn it upside down, duct tape thing on, and I'd plug it

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in and out. That's how I kept it run. All right. I did not have

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a drill press. I had a hand drill. And I found at a yard

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sale something that you could take it and put hose clamps on the

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side of it. And it had it and it turned it into a drill press

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for a year. That's how I drill holes in handle.

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So I could do it with that. I would buy my

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bone at Kroger's and the dog out.

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I would get the dog bones, bring them home,

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grind them in half, get my wife's crock pot,

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heat up some dye, leather dye that I had

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in a mason jar and drop them in that mason jar and let them

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sit in there for a week or two. My pins again,

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I'm carpenter background. I used four penny nails.

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So if you find one of my original patch knives from, you know,

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2000, 2001, they're that rough looking

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old hickory pieces from the stairs that we would build or something.

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The bone, old elk antler, you name it.

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That's what went on as the handle. I actually had an old cracked bowling

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ball that I found one time. And I cut the bowling ball off and used

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the bowling ball pieces for handle material on knives and early days.

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You know, if you're creative now, you can go out and you can

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spend 3, $200 on a knife grinder. You can

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and that you'll have a fantastic tool. But if you start

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from the beginning and you, you teach yourself these rudimentary

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ways to do it, even if the only thing you have is a mango

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grinder, put it in your vise and start working your bevel

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you know, you gotta, you gotta have a steady hand. You just got to learn

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how to do that. And you have to have a steady hand to use a

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great grinder also. You absolutely do. You're absolutely

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great. Grinder doesn't mean, you know, that. There's a word that I've been

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thinking about a lot recently that get. You get, that gets used a lot

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these days, which is deserve. Oh, I deserve this, or I deserve that.

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And to me, deserve means you've earned it. And

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in a way, it's the same with something like a tool.

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You know, you can. You may have earned the money to, to buy the

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best grinder out there, but in a way, getting there

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through a harder path means you deserve that

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grinder in. In a more real way to me, than just coughing up

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the cash flow. Absolutely. There are ways to get

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around doing. Again, I didn't have

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disc grinders or belt grinders to start with. And when I finally did

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get a drill press, I bought a bunch of little drums and I would put

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them in the drill press and I would use those little drums to grind the

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hand or, you know, to shape the handle to get it cleaner yet.

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So there's, there's always a way to get something

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better. You know, a lot of hand work, put it in your vise and you're

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sitting there, you rip sandpaper, and you just sit there and pull it back and

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forth across the handle. There's a lot that you can do from there.

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You don't need a grinder to sharpen. You just when you're done, you sharpen with

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stones. You know, it's. It can be done.

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I. I mean, I'm here to tell you, I. My first shop,

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I went full time making knives under

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my front porch of my house. This is. I didn't have a building.

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I didn't have any address other than literally my front

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porch. And my front porch is the size of a bathroom.

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I can touch the two walls on one side like this, and it's

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eight feet across this way. And that is all that it was. And

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I had all my tools in there, and I quit my job and went full

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time from that place right under that stairs.

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So what was it like quitting your job and. And

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diving into knife making full time? Oh, it was

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nuts. Absolutely not. But I, I'd done it a

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few times in my life, so it wasn't, you know, I get a

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bug and I just say, this is where we're gonna go for a while. But

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again, as the hobby side got

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more and I guess better here. What happened was, as I told you, my

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wife said, hey, if you're gonna buy knife stuff or do this knife thing, you

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have to make the money somewhere other than our house

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budget. So I started making some knives

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and the patch and eyes out of the old saw blade. And I would go

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to the gun show on Saturday. Where I live in Ohio, I can be at

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a, to a gun show any Saturday or Sunday, probably

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within an hour's drive. So that was easy, right?

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Some were big, some were small. I would just take whatever I had made,

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go to the gun show and sell most of them, if

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not all of them. I was doing quite well again, had to price

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down low because my goal was to buy another piece of steel or to buy

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another piece of handle or to buy that first grinder that I was talking about.

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So that's kind of where, you know, when you step into the business

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and all of a sudden these, this hobby is starting to turn

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into this, this business. And again at this time,

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I'm still not thinking this is what I'm going to do the rest of my

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life. I'm a carpenter. I'm building high end staircases.

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I'm, I'm doing fine. I like what I'm doing. I love doing spiral

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stairs. You know, it was a cool thing. But

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at some point kept going. And we go to. My wife,

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Elaine is like, Elaine. I come home from work and I

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work until 11 o' clock every night and every Saturday and Sunday I'm

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at a show and I have a list of, of orders

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a mile long. And I'm not even the nightmare.

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That's just it. It literally happened

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without forcing it to happen. And then all of

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a sudden we got to the point where I,

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I went to her one day and I went, I think we can do this

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for a living. And she looked at me and she went,

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okay. And I would look,

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we didn't even talk about it. Now understand that I'm a

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regular Joe. I got a nice job, you know, I got a house

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payment. I got a kid in school getting ready to go to college.

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I got two vehicle payments. I'm just, I'm just a

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regular guy, you know, and I

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paycheck stopped on Friday and I better have money coming in

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on Monday. Yeah, so, so that is exactly. And when, that

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is, when you're up against something like that, you learn

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00:27:55.700 --> 00:27:59.500
very quickly. Now, I was always a hustler or a hustler

450
00:27:59.900 --> 00:28:03.660
or I would hump very good. I'm, you know, I have a good work

451
00:28:03.660 --> 00:28:07.420
at yeah. So I just knew you hit the

452
00:28:07.420 --> 00:28:10.940
ground running and you just don't look back. And when you hit that obstacle, man,

453
00:28:10.940 --> 00:28:14.500
you just hurdle it. You figure out how to go around it, go over, go

454
00:28:14.500 --> 00:28:18.290
under it, whatever you have to do, and keep getting after it. And

455
00:28:18.290 --> 00:28:21.650
some days, you know, you make some money. Some days you didn't.

456
00:28:22.210 --> 00:28:26.010
And some days were quite lean. There

457
00:28:26.010 --> 00:28:29.010
was times I went to a show and didn't have enough money to get home

458
00:28:29.010 --> 00:28:32.530
had I not sold a night. But you know what?

459
00:28:32.610 --> 00:28:36.170
That. That it. It makes

460
00:28:36.170 --> 00:28:39.770
you into something that I'm very proud that

461
00:28:39.770 --> 00:28:43.210
I turned out to be. You know, you

462
00:28:43.210 --> 00:28:47.010
appreciate every moment of it when.

463
00:28:47.010 --> 00:28:50.770
When it's like that. It was nothing. No gimmes. You know,

464
00:28:50.770 --> 00:28:54.490
you went out there and you worked at it and did your best and kept

465
00:28:54.490 --> 00:28:58.130
earning it. Yeah. Okay, well, I want

466
00:28:58.130 --> 00:29:00.890
to check out some of your knives. We've been talking for a half hour. We

467
00:29:00.890 --> 00:29:03.810
haven't even looked at your knives. But I want to say, okay, there's got to

468
00:29:03.810 --> 00:29:07.490
be something in the water. I grew up in Northeast Ohio, and

469
00:29:08.050 --> 00:29:11.410
I've had a lot of knife makers on this show from Ohio. I think it's

470
00:29:11.410 --> 00:29:15.190
a great knife state. Oh, as do I. As

471
00:29:15.190 --> 00:29:18.910
do I. And I want you to

472
00:29:18.910 --> 00:29:21.710
show us some knives. And then I want to ask you about your logo. I

473
00:29:21.710 --> 00:29:25.470
think that is such a cool story. But first, let's. Let's check out some

474
00:29:25.470 --> 00:29:29.190
of the knives you've got. I mentioned the large northern hunter. I

475
00:29:29.190 --> 00:29:32.710
don't know if you have one of those. I don't. I have a small.

476
00:29:33.190 --> 00:29:36.870
And. And all. In all fairness, I. I brought

477
00:29:36.870 --> 00:29:40.590
home some stuff that this is about all we have in stock right now.

478
00:29:40.670 --> 00:29:44.030
Okay. And some of these are my own, so I was just like, yeah, I'll

479
00:29:44.030 --> 00:29:47.350
show them this one. But I do have a small northern here. So this is

480
00:29:47.350 --> 00:29:50.950
our small Northern hunter. And the large is.

481
00:29:50.950 --> 00:29:54.350
Is very similar. It's just a bigger version of this.

482
00:29:54.750 --> 00:29:58.470
Yeah. This knife is an AE BL steel,

483
00:29:58.470 --> 00:30:01.950
which is a stainless. One of my favorite steels to use.

484
00:30:02.030 --> 00:30:05.620
It's a great size. This

485
00:30:06.020 --> 00:30:09.740
started out as a hunting knife, but it is quite useful in

486
00:30:09.740 --> 00:30:13.500
the kitchen. We have a lot of people that use this as a kitchen

487
00:30:13.500 --> 00:30:17.340
knife because of the shape and ease of use. And you.

488
00:30:17.340 --> 00:30:21.020
You mentioned you had had a large and orient or you.

489
00:30:21.020 --> 00:30:24.740
No, no. One of my loaned me one, so.

490
00:30:25.380 --> 00:30:29.180
Session for a couple of weeks and. Right, right, right. Yeah, it

491
00:30:29.180 --> 00:30:33.030
is a. Both sizes are a. A very good

492
00:30:33.030 --> 00:30:36.550
pattern for us. We get them made, and they are

493
00:30:36.870 --> 00:30:40.710
literally sold out. Thank God, we have a good fan base and a good

494
00:30:40.710 --> 00:30:44.390
dealer base. So. So we. We have a few right now,

495
00:30:44.630 --> 00:30:48.110
and I brought one home. But that is one of. One of our most

496
00:30:48.110 --> 00:30:51.910
popular models for sure. Our Genesis, which is our

497
00:30:51.910 --> 00:30:55.350
most popular model. I don't even have an example to show you.

498
00:30:55.590 --> 00:30:59.370
So what kind of knife is that? It is a Kepharten design. That's

499
00:30:59.370 --> 00:31:02.770
the Bushcraft, the Scandi Grind. That is what I call our

500
00:31:02.770 --> 00:31:06.490
flagship knife. That is our most

501
00:31:06.490 --> 00:31:10.290
popular. We make more. More of that knife that in our gns,

502
00:31:10.290 --> 00:31:13.449
which again, I don't have an example to show. You have a few other things

503
00:31:13.450 --> 00:31:17.130
here. I think on your web landing page you have a schematic.

504
00:31:17.290 --> 00:31:20.810
That knife right on your web page. I think it is.

505
00:31:20.810 --> 00:31:24.340
Yeah, I think it is the Genesis, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

506
00:31:24.500 --> 00:31:28.180
I think so. I know what you're talking about. Yeah, I believe it is. Yeah.

507
00:31:28.180 --> 00:31:31.380
Now this is what we call our Frontier Valley.

508
00:31:31.700 --> 00:31:35.180
Cool. Now this Frontier valley, we were talking about the patch

509
00:31:35.180 --> 00:31:39.019
knives earlier. Yeah, the Frontier Valley came kind

510
00:31:39.019 --> 00:31:42.700
of out of that look and idea. So it

511
00:31:42.700 --> 00:31:46.340
just did a little bit of a modern version. So you can picture this as

512
00:31:46.340 --> 00:31:49.870
a patch cutting knife. Good size. Again,

513
00:31:49.950 --> 00:31:52.750
this is used for field dressing game,

514
00:31:53.710 --> 00:31:57.510
you know, camp chores, kitchen. This is my wife

515
00:31:57.510 --> 00:32:01.310
and I paring knife in the kitchen. We have a few of these. So

516
00:32:01.310 --> 00:32:04.830
this knife is. Is a great using knife.

517
00:32:05.150 --> 00:32:08.830
This one, we actually. We make our own Kydex. So this one has

518
00:32:08.830 --> 00:32:12.470
the Kydex on it and the slide lock. So we have the slide

519
00:32:12.470 --> 00:32:16.040
lock set up on that. But yeah, the

520
00:32:16.120 --> 00:32:19.840
Frontier Valley is a great knife. This is a good

521
00:32:19.840 --> 00:32:23.640
user, this. Oh, there you

522
00:32:23.640 --> 00:32:27.240
go. Yeah, that's so cool. Yeah.

523
00:32:28.280 --> 00:32:31.840
Yeah, we found that picture was one of the drawings. I was like, hey, we

524
00:32:31.840 --> 00:32:34.760
got to put that up. It's kind of cool. I like that. Yeah,

525
00:32:35.480 --> 00:32:39.160
right on. This is our camp

526
00:32:39.160 --> 00:32:42.790
mop. And this is another one of those we just.

527
00:32:42.790 --> 00:32:46.430
And the reason I have this is this is a dealer's knife that's getting

528
00:32:46.430 --> 00:32:50.150
shipped out tomorrow. I just happened to see it and brought it home. This is

529
00:32:50.150 --> 00:32:53.830
a CPM3B knife. So these, if you

530
00:32:53.830 --> 00:32:57.390
start looking at our dealers, the. They will be having these

531
00:32:57.550 --> 00:33:01.230
this month, as they're going out this month, sort of. And again, last

532
00:33:01.230 --> 00:33:04.910
month. Design. Yes, yes, very much. And, and

533
00:33:04.910 --> 00:33:08.630
again, because. Because of, we kind of gravitated toward the

534
00:33:08.630 --> 00:33:12.070
Bushcraft side. The, the Nessmuks and the

535
00:33:12.070 --> 00:33:15.630
Kephart styles. They're very much, you know,

536
00:33:15.630 --> 00:33:19.350
something that we. We sell quite a bit of. So I'm. I'm A non

537
00:33:19.350 --> 00:33:23.030
hunter. I've done a little bit of camping, but not in a long time. Would

538
00:33:23.030 --> 00:33:26.630
you say that Bushcraft knives can easily double

539
00:33:26.630 --> 00:33:30.430
as hunting knives? Now when you get into something like that

540
00:33:30.430 --> 00:33:34.000
it may be more in tune with what goes grind. They are. I

541
00:33:34.000 --> 00:33:37.440
do not have a Scandi grind here with me today but a

542
00:33:37.440 --> 00:33:41.160
Scandinavian grind is a chisel grind. Okay. So it literally

543
00:33:41.160 --> 00:33:44.840
is like a wood chisel. So a lot of the Bushcraft guys love that

544
00:33:44.840 --> 00:33:47.680
for stripping wood and doing it quickly.

545
00:33:48.479 --> 00:33:52.000
So spiel dressing with the Scandinavian

546
00:33:52.080 --> 00:33:55.520
grind absolutely can be done and it can be done

547
00:33:55.600 --> 00:33:59.040
extremely well. But you may if you had the

548
00:33:59.040 --> 00:34:02.700
option a saber grind as. As this is a

549
00:34:02.700 --> 00:34:06.540
saber grind or a full flat grind. As you

550
00:34:06.540 --> 00:34:10.340
can see here, the grind goes all the way to the top. Those would

551
00:34:10.340 --> 00:34:14.100
be more tuned for field dressing game just because of

552
00:34:14.100 --> 00:34:17.820
the geometry of the blade. Okay, okay.

553
00:34:17.820 --> 00:34:21.180
And again not. And to, to. To say that in

554
00:34:21.180 --> 00:34:24.980
reverse you can do Bushcraft with the flat and the

555
00:34:24.980 --> 00:34:28.559
saber but the scan is going to do the

556
00:34:28.559 --> 00:34:32.319
wood much, much better and much quicker. It's.

557
00:34:32.319 --> 00:34:35.599
It's like the, the rifle,

558
00:34:36.399 --> 00:34:39.919
pistol and shotgun. Okay. Fantastic

559
00:34:39.919 --> 00:34:43.719
tools when you use them where you're supposed to use them. If

560
00:34:43.719 --> 00:34:47.239
I take you elk hunting and hand you a 12 gauge shotgun and there's a

561
00:34:47.239 --> 00:34:50.719
600 yard shot, we're not going to have a good time.

562
00:34:51.610 --> 00:34:55.290
But you can't blame the gun for them

563
00:34:55.610 --> 00:34:58.570
for the use. So the same thing you're going to go out and you're going

564
00:34:58.570 --> 00:35:02.170
to do a lot of Bushcraft and take a Scandi because

565
00:35:02.570 --> 00:35:06.410
and size it properly. You know those are things that

566
00:35:06.410 --> 00:35:09.610
sometimes people overlook. They just think the knives are

567
00:35:09.610 --> 00:35:13.410
indestructible and magical. Now you. You know the right knife for the

568
00:35:13.410 --> 00:35:16.890
right job and that is the best way people if

569
00:35:17.390 --> 00:35:20.910
turns a switch on. When you say a rifle, a shotgun and a pistol, they're

570
00:35:20.910 --> 00:35:24.670
great. When you use them where they're supposed. To be used

571
00:35:25.390 --> 00:35:29.110
right in the alley with a, with a. With a deer rifle is

572
00:35:29.110 --> 00:35:32.110
probably not the way to go either. Exactly. There you go.

573
00:35:33.310 --> 00:35:35.550
I. I want to talk a little bit about

574
00:35:36.670 --> 00:35:40.470
fascinating story behind your logo and I, and I think that

575
00:35:40.470 --> 00:35:44.280
that, that kind of, I don't

576
00:35:44.280 --> 00:35:47.880
know lends itself to the spirit behind lt. Wright

577
00:35:47.960 --> 00:35:50.840
knives in general. Tell us a little bit about that.

578
00:35:51.480 --> 00:35:55.160
Sure. The. The POW house is what we call

579
00:35:55.160 --> 00:35:58.919
that is the logo. The little tiny house. That

580
00:35:58.919 --> 00:36:02.760
logo I hand drew quickly, I am

581
00:36:02.760 --> 00:36:06.040
pretty sure on a napkin because my wife needed it

582
00:36:06.440 --> 00:36:10.190
to send off to the stamp maker and I didn't know what I

583
00:36:10.190 --> 00:36:13.630
was going to use. I was like, well, I'm going to use lt, right? And

584
00:36:13.870 --> 00:36:17.230
she's like, wow, we got to have a little thing because R.W. had a tomahawk

585
00:36:17.230 --> 00:36:21.070
and his. And R.W. wilson. So I was like, well, I gotta have

586
00:36:21.070 --> 00:36:24.750
something, right, because, you know, so like, how about the pout

587
00:36:24.750 --> 00:36:28.470
house from the farm? So I scribbled this thing out and says, does that look

588
00:36:28.470 --> 00:36:31.350
good? Then I cleaned it up a little bit, and that's what we sent off

589
00:36:31.350 --> 00:36:34.750
for the original logo. So the story of the pout house.

590
00:36:36.020 --> 00:36:39.380
My father and I bought a farm off of our

591
00:36:39.700 --> 00:36:43.540
relative, a cousin of his, number of years ago, back in the 80s.

592
00:36:44.340 --> 00:36:48.060
And my grandmother had grown up in that area and around it. Well,

593
00:36:48.060 --> 00:36:51.620
there was this old shack that was way up in the back woods.

594
00:36:52.180 --> 00:36:55.260
And I never knew what it was. I go sit there and I'd hunt from

595
00:36:55.260 --> 00:36:58.380
the front porch sometimes because, I mean, it was, you know, no one lived there.

596
00:36:58.380 --> 00:37:02.060
It was dilapidated. And one

597
00:37:02.060 --> 00:37:05.340
time we were sitting on our front porch at the cabin, and I said, grandma,

598
00:37:05.420 --> 00:37:09.260
what is that shack up in in the back, that old house thing? And

599
00:37:09.260 --> 00:37:12.980
she goes, oh, that was my Uncle Bill's pout house. And

600
00:37:12.980 --> 00:37:15.940
my dad and I looked at each other and like, what the heck is a

601
00:37:15.940 --> 00:37:19.780
powder? She goes, well, when he would get mad at my Aunt

602
00:37:19.780 --> 00:37:22.980
Mary, he would just go up there and pout. So they just called it his

603
00:37:22.980 --> 00:37:26.740
pow pow. And I thought, well, that's cool. You know,

604
00:37:26.740 --> 00:37:30.450
why not, right? So that kind of

605
00:37:31.250 --> 00:37:34.610
when we, you know, again, when I did the. The knife company was coming together,

606
00:37:34.610 --> 00:37:37.890
like, man, what. That's the backstory for the knife company because

607
00:37:38.610 --> 00:37:42.290
that's kind of where the logos came from, that pout

608
00:37:42.290 --> 00:37:45.970
house. The idea of making knives really came from my

609
00:37:45.970 --> 00:37:49.570
property because I wanted to outdoors have a farm

610
00:37:49.730 --> 00:37:53.530
kind of thing. Wanting to make sure, you know, you had knives and everything.

611
00:37:53.530 --> 00:37:57.190
It just kind of all fell together. And then the story about the blind

612
00:37:57.190 --> 00:38:00.710
horse that was there, he used a blind horse to drag the wood

613
00:38:01.430 --> 00:38:05.070
and do this. And. And I have a. Actually have a picture of that blind

614
00:38:05.070 --> 00:38:08.790
horse. But that's when the name Blind Horse Knives finally,

615
00:38:08.790 --> 00:38:12.430
you know, originally started when I had a business partner in the early days

616
00:38:12.430 --> 00:38:15.910
as well. So it kind of all came from that Powell story. And

617
00:38:15.910 --> 00:38:19.350
it's a great story now, as far as I know

618
00:38:19.590 --> 00:38:23.390
it's true. I cannot. I don't know that for a fact. It was told to

619
00:38:23.390 --> 00:38:26.950
me by my grandmother. It's a great story. And I still,

620
00:38:27.270 --> 00:38:30.990
you know, I. I believe it because I've Been there. I've seen the powthouse

621
00:38:30.990 --> 00:38:34.070
there. There's nothing there now but the, the old

622
00:38:34.310 --> 00:38:38.110
sandstones that it's set on. It is, you know, completely

623
00:38:38.110 --> 00:38:41.790
gone now. I, I just love that. Hey, I love

624
00:38:41.790 --> 00:38:45.550
the name we all need. This is my pout room, you might say. There

625
00:38:45.550 --> 00:38:49.210
you go. We all need a house of sorts. But I love that it was

626
00:38:49.210 --> 00:38:53.050
called that because, you know, as men, oftentimes when we need to

627
00:38:53.050 --> 00:38:56.490
get away, we go to our little private spot and kind of

628
00:38:56.490 --> 00:39:00.210
separate ourselves. I love the name of that. But

629
00:39:00.210 --> 00:39:03.690
you also have a group of people who kind of

630
00:39:03.690 --> 00:39:07.490
workshop your designs, right? You call them the powder house group, something like

631
00:39:07.490 --> 00:39:11.330
that. Well, we have a private forum and it is our pout house

632
00:39:11.330 --> 00:39:14.850
forum. When we first started making knives,

633
00:39:15.250 --> 00:39:18.850
you know, when we first put the company together proper back in the old

634
00:39:18.850 --> 00:39:22.570
blind horse days, we wanted a private forum where our

635
00:39:22.570 --> 00:39:25.890
fan base and our guys could get together, you know,

636
00:39:26.210 --> 00:39:30.009
so we, we called it the Underground. Well, when we went back to the original

637
00:39:30.009 --> 00:39:33.850
name lt right. Knives and stuff, we just took the pout house and

638
00:39:33.850 --> 00:39:37.170
called it the Powthouse or the forum. So we have our

639
00:39:37.170 --> 00:39:40.740
powthouse form, which we have probably five

640
00:39:40.740 --> 00:39:44.180
to 600 members. It, it depends on how that goes.

641
00:39:44.420 --> 00:39:48.220
And it's a paid form, but those guys go on there. We buy,

642
00:39:48.220 --> 00:39:52.020
sell and trade. I bought I don't know how many flashlights

643
00:39:52.020 --> 00:39:55.620
and bags that, you know, backpacks I don't need

644
00:39:56.340 --> 00:39:59.140
and you name it, that kind of thing. So we have our, our own little

645
00:39:59.140 --> 00:40:02.940
buy, sell and trade and the same lt Right. Knives traded, bought,

646
00:40:02.940 --> 00:40:06.250
sold on there. We do special runs for the, the

647
00:40:06.250 --> 00:40:10.090
powthouse. We have key stamp knives. So you have your,

648
00:40:10.090 --> 00:40:13.210
our logo on the one side and on the other side it'll have a key

649
00:40:13.370 --> 00:40:16.570
that's the key to the pow house. So it's an old skeleton key that we

650
00:40:16.570 --> 00:40:20.290
stamp into it. So we had that. We have

651
00:40:20.290 --> 00:40:24.050
some programs we call four on the floor. So we'll put up some ideas and

652
00:40:24.050 --> 00:40:27.210
let the guys vote on the next knife that we'll build for them as a

653
00:40:27.210 --> 00:40:30.330
customer. That's cool. And we get so many people do that

654
00:40:30.730 --> 00:40:34.540
every Monday and Wednesday. Scott, who runs the forum, he goes

655
00:40:34.540 --> 00:40:37.540
in there and puts up a knife of the day. We call it the Hot

656
00:40:37.540 --> 00:40:41.140
off the Grinder. It's a knife we just finished, puts a story

657
00:40:41.140 --> 00:40:44.980
behind it, and then people will put I in and they'll, I'm in on

658
00:40:44.980 --> 00:40:48.180
that. At the end of the day, we'll draw a name and that guy gets

659
00:40:48.500 --> 00:40:52.140
to buy that Knife that's just. We had 12

660
00:40:52.140 --> 00:40:55.900
days of Christmas is another fun thing that we do twice a

661
00:40:55.900 --> 00:40:59.500
year we do virtual shows during. When we're at Blade show in

662
00:40:59.500 --> 00:41:03.320
Atlanta, we do a show at the stop and people can

663
00:41:03.320 --> 00:41:07.160
come by, but it's also virtual on, on the Powthouse forum

664
00:41:07.160 --> 00:41:10.800
live and they can buy and sell and at Christmas

665
00:41:10.800 --> 00:41:13.880
Scott and I will get on there and we have a live on Facebook and

666
00:41:13.880 --> 00:41:17.560
on our forum that goes literally around the world. We got people in

667
00:41:17.560 --> 00:41:21.360
Greece, we got people in Japan, Germany and they're all

668
00:41:21.360 --> 00:41:24.800
tuning in to this. It's a really good brotherhood

669
00:41:25.040 --> 00:41:28.790
of good guys that, you know, we just hang out

670
00:41:28.790 --> 00:41:32.350
and talk knives, guns, trucks.

671
00:41:32.510 --> 00:41:36.310
You know, a lot of guys are into four wheel drive trucks,

672
00:41:36.310 --> 00:41:39.390
Jeeps, Toyotas, camping over landing,

673
00:41:39.870 --> 00:41:43.710
all that stuff. It just as I said, I bought flashlight,

674
00:41:43.710 --> 00:41:47.270
I don't know, drawers full of flashlights. I don't need. Just because I was like,

675
00:41:47.270 --> 00:41:50.550
I don't have that one. Let me try that one for a while. Yeah, well

676
00:41:50.550 --> 00:41:53.390
we all get that here. We all understand the spirit behind that.

677
00:41:55.120 --> 00:41:58.800
How much do you, how much has input

678
00:41:58.800 --> 00:42:02.400
from the people who love your knives already affected how you

679
00:42:02.480 --> 00:42:05.280
design or how you move forward with,

680
00:42:06.240 --> 00:42:09.839
with your knives, with new knives, that kind of thing? Okay, well,

681
00:42:09.839 --> 00:42:13.040
early on, one of the things that was brought up to us was

682
00:42:14.560 --> 00:42:18.360
people were using their blade to scrape

683
00:42:18.360 --> 00:42:22.170
ferro rods. So some, and this was

684
00:42:22.170 --> 00:42:25.930
in the, you know, the early days, someone had mentioned, I don't remember if

685
00:42:25.930 --> 00:42:29.130
it was in an email to me and I apologize, I don't even remember who

686
00:42:29.130 --> 00:42:32.930
it was. Boy, if you just squared off that spine, we wouldn't

687
00:42:32.930 --> 00:42:36.570
have to use, you know, so we were the

688
00:42:36.570 --> 00:42:40.330
first or one of the first companies to ever square

689
00:42:40.330 --> 00:42:44.010
spines. And that is another thing we're known for is our 90

690
00:42:44.010 --> 00:42:47.800
degree spots. They will shower, you

691
00:42:47.800 --> 00:42:51.640
know, flames off of a barrel rod or sparks, I'm sorry, off of

692
00:42:51.640 --> 00:42:55.120
ferro rod. And our knives to this day, we still do that to them.

693
00:42:55.920 --> 00:42:59.360
Another innovation that came out of a lot of

694
00:42:59.360 --> 00:43:02.480
interacting with those guys was the slide locks

695
00:43:03.040 --> 00:43:06.680
that is on this sheath. You may see this on a bunch of

696
00:43:06.680 --> 00:43:10.000
sheaves, but we're the ones that designed that.

697
00:43:10.970 --> 00:43:14.570
And that was designed maybe 15, 17 years

698
00:43:14.570 --> 00:43:18.290
ago. The slide lock there, I see a lot of companies using

699
00:43:18.290 --> 00:43:21.370
it. There are some people that still pay us

700
00:43:21.530 --> 00:43:25.370
royalties for the right to use the slide lock, some don't. But that's,

701
00:43:25.770 --> 00:43:29.450
you know, so that is another thing that came out of interacting

702
00:43:29.690 --> 00:43:33.530
with the public. Some of the designs, I think

703
00:43:34.970 --> 00:43:38.680
the Nesmic design, not that we wouldn't have made

704
00:43:38.680 --> 00:43:42.400
one. But I think we were asked, you know, by a bunch of people,

705
00:43:42.400 --> 00:43:45.480
hey, can you make something similar to that? And as you can see, this is

706
00:43:45.480 --> 00:43:48.760
our, this is our design. It's not the true

707
00:43:48.760 --> 00:43:51.920
Nesmic, but in concept, you know, the

708
00:43:52.160 --> 00:43:55.920
blade, the big bowl up at the top, that kind of thing.

709
00:43:57.120 --> 00:44:00.600
So yes, a lot of the input that we get and even today off of

710
00:44:00.600 --> 00:44:04.290
the forum, you know, I listen to those people.

711
00:44:04.290 --> 00:44:07.730
We all listen to the customers that are buying your product

712
00:44:07.810 --> 00:44:11.370
because they're the guys buying it. If they, well just for

713
00:44:11.370 --> 00:44:15.170
example, steals, you know what's the hot

714
00:44:15.170 --> 00:44:19.010
ticket right this second? Cpm Magna. Yeah.

715
00:44:19.250 --> 00:44:22.770
Yeah, everybody wants that steel. Well,

716
00:44:23.010 --> 00:44:26.570
you can either make some in that steel or you can be hard

717
00:44:26.570 --> 00:44:30.310
headed and not make some in that, that steel. So we do make some in

718
00:44:30.310 --> 00:44:33.950
that steel. Now we still have a two is

719
00:44:33.950 --> 00:44:37.710
our bread and butter steel. And the reason is because

720
00:44:37.710 --> 00:44:41.390
it works. It just works. It works all the time.

721
00:44:42.270 --> 00:44:45.910
So that, but yeah, those there,

722
00:44:45.910 --> 00:44:49.470
there's a lot of input that goes into it and sheath design, you know, pocket

723
00:44:49.470 --> 00:44:53.230
carry, scout carry. Over the years, you know, different things have come up.

724
00:44:53.230 --> 00:44:56.150
We've talked about even down to handle materials sometimes

725
00:44:56.790 --> 00:45:00.190
believe it or not, just because I'm in the knife industry, I may not know

726
00:45:00.190 --> 00:45:03.430
what the newest knife handle out there is. And someone

727
00:45:04.230 --> 00:45:08.070
found one somewhere and said, hey, have you ever heard of this tarot? Like

728
00:45:08.070 --> 00:45:11.870
nope. What is it? And I, they sent some and I started using

729
00:45:11.870 --> 00:45:15.710
like hey, I like that. You know. So yeah,

730
00:45:15.710 --> 00:45:19.110
we can, we can be influenced that way. Yeah,

731
00:45:19.510 --> 00:45:23.170
so you're, you keep saying we tell us about your

732
00:45:23.170 --> 00:45:27.010
shop and, and how your shop functions and operates. You're

733
00:45:27.010 --> 00:45:30.690
no longer under your porch. No, but we were for a

734
00:45:30.690 --> 00:45:34.490
long, we were for a while. When we first went full time and actually

735
00:45:34.570 --> 00:45:37.610
started becoming, I guess what we would consider a company.

736
00:45:38.330 --> 00:45:42.050
We had people working out of our house. My wife and I took

737
00:45:42.050 --> 00:45:45.890
all of our furniture and shoved it into our family or into our

738
00:45:45.890 --> 00:45:49.550
sun room. And our living room was shipping and receiving. Our

739
00:45:49.550 --> 00:45:53.310
dining room had five computers in it and someone sitting at each one.

740
00:45:54.110 --> 00:45:57.550
And we were in. My complete downstairs was

741
00:45:57.550 --> 00:46:01.390
transformed into a knife shop. The

742
00:46:01.390 --> 00:46:05.030
whole entire downstairs. We used to use the washer and dryer. We put

743
00:46:05.030 --> 00:46:08.390
towels down so when we glued up a knife we could put it over there

744
00:46:08.390 --> 00:46:11.950
to dry. There was, it wasn't a again

745
00:46:12.270 --> 00:46:15.310
for someone out there going, I don't have a building, I don't have this. I

746
00:46:15.310 --> 00:46:18.930
don't have this to get started. You know what, just do

747
00:46:18.930 --> 00:46:22.770
it. Just figure it out. Do it. If it's in your backyard, do it in

748
00:46:22.770 --> 00:46:26.490
your backyard. Put up a tent. You know you can. If you want to

749
00:46:26.490 --> 00:46:30.170
do something bad enough, if you want to get somewhere bad enough, you

750
00:46:30.170 --> 00:46:33.890
will figure out those obstacles and you will climb. I'm telling you.

751
00:46:33.890 --> 00:46:37.650
We didn't have a shop for the first four

752
00:46:37.650 --> 00:46:41.490
years we worked from this house there. Matter of fact, they used to be,

753
00:46:41.490 --> 00:46:45.170
you know, the Google Earth pictures. They had taken it one time when

754
00:46:45.170 --> 00:46:48.930
everyone was here and you could see the cars line down my driveway and

755
00:46:48.930 --> 00:46:52.370
up the street. Because at one time we had about 10 people

756
00:46:52.450 --> 00:46:56.050
working in this house. Wow. And then we finally got a building.

757
00:46:58.050 --> 00:47:01.650
So you, you, you post a lot of videos on Instagram

758
00:47:02.050 --> 00:47:05.610
and maybe on YouTube, but on Instagram definitely. And your

759
00:47:05.610 --> 00:47:09.410
shop looks so cool. It looks like such a great place to be.

760
00:47:10.810 --> 00:47:14.370
Yeah. How many makers do you have helping you? There's

761
00:47:14.370 --> 00:47:18.010
10 people completely in the company. That counts. My wife and

762
00:47:18.010 --> 00:47:21.650
Amy who run the office. We have a part time guy named

763
00:47:21.650 --> 00:47:25.370
George who, he works through the shop and, and he,

764
00:47:25.690 --> 00:47:29.370
he's like our prep nurse.

765
00:47:29.690 --> 00:47:33.450
We'll say he's making sure there's things sitting here when we get there,

766
00:47:33.450 --> 00:47:37.230
you know, even, even down to the bathroom. Towels. Sure there's towels

767
00:47:37.230 --> 00:47:40.390
in the bathroom. Because when we got grease all over hands, you know. Yeah. So

768
00:47:40.390 --> 00:47:44.150
he's our prep guy and then we have the rest of us that are making

769
00:47:44.150 --> 00:47:47.790
knives now. We all wear two hats. Scott makes

770
00:47:47.790 --> 00:47:51.550
knives, sharpens knives and runs the POW house. Mikey

771
00:47:51.550 --> 00:47:55.310
is the IT guy. Literally he is got his hands

772
00:47:55.310 --> 00:47:58.950
inside of a computer and then he runs downstairs and then he's gluing

773
00:47:58.950 --> 00:48:02.790
knives up. So I mean, you know, it. That is how we do things.

774
00:48:03.310 --> 00:48:06.910
I run the business from the shop and you know, do all of

775
00:48:06.990 --> 00:48:10.710
my emails and buy things up there. And then I'm still on

776
00:48:10.710 --> 00:48:13.870
a grinder. At least seven hours a day. I'm

777
00:48:14.110 --> 00:48:17.870
grinding knives with the guys. You know, Nick's running the shop, but

778
00:48:17.870 --> 00:48:21.470
running the hot shop and doing finishing. Tyler's doing finishing and

779
00:48:21.790 --> 00:48:25.470
rook grind and Sammy's running the laser and he's doing our

780
00:48:25.470 --> 00:48:29.190
drawings and just things, you know, over and over.

781
00:48:29.190 --> 00:48:32.850
We all have these multiple jobs that, that

782
00:48:33.330 --> 00:48:37.090
we get done. Logan, he's, he's our cleaner guy, but he's also our.

783
00:48:37.410 --> 00:48:41.170
Takes care of our materials and stuff. And. Yeah, there's

784
00:48:41.170 --> 00:48:44.490
some of the pictures. Yeah. And we do a quote of coffee from the shop

785
00:48:44.490 --> 00:48:48.290
every morning too. You do a what? A quote of coffee

786
00:48:48.290 --> 00:48:52.050
from the shop every day on Instagram. If you go on Instagram, you'll see

787
00:48:52.050 --> 00:48:55.770
quota coffee. Yep, yep. Yeah, that place,

788
00:48:55.770 --> 00:48:59.450
it looks like a pretty nice sized facility you got there. It

789
00:48:59.450 --> 00:49:03.290
is now they shop that we were two levels. The

790
00:49:03.290 --> 00:49:06.210
upstairs where we used to be is now office space

791
00:49:06.770 --> 00:49:09.410
and studio space and where we have

792
00:49:10.050 --> 00:49:13.730
storage. And then the bigger place used to be a landscaping

793
00:49:15.010 --> 00:49:18.290
building when they had it. And then when they went out of business,

794
00:49:19.010 --> 00:49:22.730
we took it over and build it out piece by piece, day

795
00:49:22.730 --> 00:49:26.490
to day. It was kind of like we. It took a year to

796
00:49:26.490 --> 00:49:29.920
do it. So I started paying rent on the place and we would build

797
00:49:29.920 --> 00:49:33.680
knives, go downstairs and do this. Build knives, go

798
00:49:33.680 --> 00:49:37.400
downstairs and do this, you know, this thing and get it all set up.

799
00:49:37.480 --> 00:49:41.200
So we had the advantage when we set it up, we have the workflow

800
00:49:41.200 --> 00:49:44.760
set up exactly the way I want to set it up. And we're very

801
00:49:44.760 --> 00:49:48.400
pleased with how that is all working right now. So, yeah, this is

802
00:49:48.400 --> 00:49:52.000
just. Since it'll be a year in December that we're in this

803
00:49:52.000 --> 00:49:55.320
building. Oh, wow. The one before that, we've been there

804
00:49:57.440 --> 00:50:01.280
13 years, 14 years. So when we moved from here, from the house,

805
00:50:01.760 --> 00:50:05.400
we went over there. Matter of fact, the house was so full one time, my

806
00:50:05.400 --> 00:50:09.000
upstairs bedroom next to this one was our studio because we had a

807
00:50:09.000 --> 00:50:12.480
radio show at the time. So we had taken up

808
00:50:12.720 --> 00:50:16.320
over the upstairs. And that's when my wife was like, that's it, we're done. I

809
00:50:16.320 --> 00:50:20.160
was gonna say you. You've got an awesome sounding wife. She's. Oh, yeah,

810
00:50:20.640 --> 00:50:24.360
she's. She's the true boss. She. She keeps us all in line.

811
00:50:24.360 --> 00:50:27.790
I mean, she's the accountant. If you call the shop, she

812
00:50:27.790 --> 00:50:31.630
answers the phone, she answers the customer emails, customer

813
00:50:31.630 --> 00:50:35.390
services, absolutely 100% could not do

814
00:50:35.390 --> 00:50:38.550
it without her doing. And even in the. When it was just me and her,

815
00:50:38.550 --> 00:50:42.230
in the old days, she did all the shipping, you know, taking care of that

816
00:50:42.230 --> 00:50:46.030
stuff and she took the pictures. We would

817
00:50:46.030 --> 00:50:49.310
take them and then have to go get them developed and then

818
00:50:50.030 --> 00:50:53.640
put them on the website. Speaking of pictures in your website,

819
00:50:53.960 --> 00:50:57.640
first of all, beautiful pictures. I was perusing all

820
00:50:57.640 --> 00:51:00.440
your knives, kitchen knives, hunting knives,

821
00:51:01.880 --> 00:51:05.480
Bushcraft knives. I noticed that you had a couple that you made

822
00:51:05.480 --> 00:51:09.160
for Les Stroud. Survivor Man. What

823
00:51:09.160 --> 00:51:12.840
was that all about? He was looking for a

824
00:51:13.080 --> 00:51:16.840
someone to. To bring some of the knives. He has a

825
00:51:16.840 --> 00:51:20.300
show right now called Wild Harvest, so it's on

826
00:51:20.300 --> 00:51:23.820
pbs. Him and a professional chef, Paul Rogowski. This

827
00:51:23.820 --> 00:51:27.060
happened right during the pandemic. I mean, we were shut down. I was at home

828
00:51:27.060 --> 00:51:30.540
again. And this is when it was going on. I was drawing pictures

829
00:51:30.780 --> 00:51:34.059
on the, on the pieces of paper and sending them and text messages to Paul

830
00:51:34.059 --> 00:51:37.780
back. And he's from Kent, so we were doing that back and

831
00:51:37.780 --> 00:51:41.140
forth and that's how it came. So we. He wanted to do a line of

832
00:51:41.140 --> 00:51:44.780
kitchen knives for the show while the harvest kitchen knives. And Les

833
00:51:44.780 --> 00:51:48.580
wanted a machete. He liked our overland machete, but he wanted some different

834
00:51:48.580 --> 00:51:52.060
things. So we worked the tweaks into that. So we have the survivor

835
00:51:52.060 --> 00:51:55.860
man's machete. And then he wanted a field knife. So we had

836
00:51:55.860 --> 00:51:59.620
the Les Stroud field knife and a forging tool. If you

837
00:51:59.620 --> 00:52:02.940
look on there, you'll see the forging tool. So yeah, yeah, we have a few

838
00:52:02.940 --> 00:52:06.740
tools for lesson and fall right now. So

839
00:52:06.740 --> 00:52:10.470
what were the. That foraging tool my

840
00:52:11.270 --> 00:52:14.990
total novice look at it looks like a

841
00:52:14.990 --> 00:52:18.150
big bayonet ground dagger in a way.

842
00:52:18.790 --> 00:52:22.630
And then when I, when I read that it's a forage, a foraging tool,

843
00:52:23.110 --> 00:52:26.790
I realized it was specialized. What, what were the challenges going

844
00:52:26.790 --> 00:52:30.590
into that? Well, if, if you're

845
00:52:30.590 --> 00:52:34.070
familiar with a hori hori, which is his Japanese. Yeah, yeah,

846
00:52:34.790 --> 00:52:38.400
tool of sorts, of kind of a shovel knife kind of thing for doing,

847
00:52:38.640 --> 00:52:42.000
you know, planning stuff. That was what we were after. We one

848
00:52:42.800 --> 00:52:46.320
wanted to design an American version of that

849
00:52:46.560 --> 00:52:49.840
for less because he. That was the whole premise of their show

850
00:52:50.240 --> 00:52:54.000
is they go out and forge for wild stuff and then

851
00:52:54.000 --> 00:52:57.840
they bring it back and create. And Paul, the five star chef,

852
00:52:57.840 --> 00:53:01.560
creates the gourmet meal with it using. Using

853
00:53:01.560 --> 00:53:05.240
his knives to cut up all the stuff as well. Well, so that knife is

854
00:53:05.240 --> 00:53:08.680
designed not only to be a shovel, but it has a blade.

855
00:53:08.920 --> 00:53:12.760
He turn around, hammer with it, whatever he needs to do.

856
00:53:13.960 --> 00:53:17.760
And it's a pretty cool tool. I like it a lot. You

857
00:53:17.760 --> 00:53:21.120
mentioned the hori hori. That, that was the first thing I thought of after I

858
00:53:21.120 --> 00:53:24.960
thought, oh, that looks like a smacket or some sort of a large weapon.

859
00:53:24.960 --> 00:53:28.360
I was like, oh, when I saw a foraging tool, I was wondering, is it

860
00:53:28.360 --> 00:53:32.060
flat on one side or concave on the. No, we actually

861
00:53:32.060 --> 00:53:35.780
made it very similar to a knife. So you have the

862
00:53:35.780 --> 00:53:39.340
knife and then you have a false clip on the top and then an anvil

863
00:53:39.340 --> 00:53:43.180
near the back section. Oh, so it is cool. And,

864
00:53:43.180 --> 00:53:46.860
and the hori hori kind of came out because my wife wanted one, so

865
00:53:47.100 --> 00:53:50.820
we made one for her. This was before. And then when we were talking on

866
00:53:50.820 --> 00:53:53.860
the phone with Les and you know, seeing what he was doing, like, hey, would

867
00:53:53.860 --> 00:53:57.080
you want a forging tool? You're like, yeah. So we

868
00:53:57.080 --> 00:54:00.920
designed it not from the. The Hori Hori,

869
00:54:00.920 --> 00:54:03.640
but more in the. The way we are thinking,

870
00:54:04.760 --> 00:54:07.800
you know, survivor man wood, survival,

871
00:54:08.120 --> 00:54:11.880
foraging. Could he use it as a knife if he need, you know, those kind

872
00:54:11.880 --> 00:54:15.080
of things. So we made it into a complete package which is pretty neat.

873
00:54:15.560 --> 00:54:19.360
Sort of a single bladed multi tool. Yeah, there you go. I

874
00:54:19.360 --> 00:54:22.950
like it. Yeah. And so before

875
00:54:22.950 --> 00:54:26.150
I want one last question I want to ask you, but before we get to

876
00:54:26.150 --> 00:54:29.790
that. Oh, there it is on screen. Yeah, that. Oh, that is a beauty.

877
00:54:30.510 --> 00:54:34.310
That is cool. Kitchen knives. You've mentioned

878
00:54:34.310 --> 00:54:37.630
that you and your wife spend a lot of time in the kitchen and

879
00:54:37.950 --> 00:54:41.390
I know that kitchen knives are a specialty unto

880
00:54:41.390 --> 00:54:44.910
themselves. Getting, getting it just right for

881
00:54:44.990 --> 00:54:48.830
the kind of slicing you do in the kitchen. Was. Was there a big

882
00:54:48.830 --> 00:54:51.310
learning curve in going from these robust

883
00:54:52.070 --> 00:54:55.870
outdoors and, you know, bushcrafting knives

884
00:54:55.870 --> 00:54:59.710
to. To something like a chef's knife? Yeah, I'll let you

885
00:54:59.710 --> 00:55:03.550
know when I get there because yes. No, it is

886
00:55:03.550 --> 00:55:06.790
a learning curve because everybody

887
00:55:07.429 --> 00:55:11.150
wants something a little bit different and that's just human nature. You

888
00:55:11.150 --> 00:55:14.830
know, every professional chef or even the amateur chefs, they have their

889
00:55:14.830 --> 00:55:18.110
idea of what they want and I get that. So it was a lot of

890
00:55:18.110 --> 00:55:21.670
trial and error when we first stepped into

891
00:55:21.670 --> 00:55:25.350
that arena into the kitchen knife. We came from the bushcraft

892
00:55:25.350 --> 00:55:29.030
side. So originally we were into overlanding. We, we all had

893
00:55:29.030 --> 00:55:32.790
jeeps and trucks that were built. We did our camping. So naturally you

894
00:55:32.790 --> 00:55:36.310
want to have a cool set of camp knives with you. Camp kitchen.

895
00:55:36.630 --> 00:55:40.230
So we created our camp kitchen series

896
00:55:40.390 --> 00:55:43.950
is where that started. And they were a little bit

897
00:55:43.950 --> 00:55:47.620
more robust than your fine high end

898
00:55:47.780 --> 00:55:51.380
kitchen knives. But through the years now

899
00:55:51.380 --> 00:55:55.180
we have developed them into more of a

900
00:55:55.180 --> 00:55:58.740
pure kitchen knife. You know, we're grinding them thinner,

901
00:55:58.820 --> 00:56:02.100
but at first, I mean the guy could do bushcraft and then cut up his,

902
00:56:02.340 --> 00:56:06.180
you know, lunch meat or whatever he was cooking at Day

903
00:56:06.180 --> 00:56:09.540
steak. One of the kitchen. This is my most used

904
00:56:09.700 --> 00:56:13.220
kitchen knife. Oh yeah, it turned in. It started out

905
00:56:13.930 --> 00:56:17.290
as a cheese knife and it is

906
00:56:18.330 --> 00:56:21.290
18 inch thick and it's 3. It's a

907
00:56:21.290 --> 00:56:25.010
AEBL, but it's very, very thin and it has the

908
00:56:25.010 --> 00:56:28.730
holes in it so that the cheese doesn't stick to the

909
00:56:28.810 --> 00:56:32.650
side of the knife. Well, it helps with that. It doesn't do it completely.

910
00:56:32.970 --> 00:56:36.650
But this is. This turned into. I use this knife

911
00:56:36.890 --> 00:56:40.500
literally for everything. And my, you know, my wife

912
00:56:40.500 --> 00:56:44.300
knows that is my go to knife. If I'm cutting the matas, it

913
00:56:44.300 --> 00:56:47.940
doesn't matter if I'm cutting meat to dry and the, the dehydrator

914
00:56:47.940 --> 00:56:51.380
doesn't matter. I'm using that knife. It just turned into my

915
00:56:51.620 --> 00:56:55.380
all in one piece. And then our large pouter

916
00:56:55.700 --> 00:56:59.460
is her favorite knife, which is this one and that's Widow

917
00:56:59.460 --> 00:57:03.060
squaw. And this is her color. All of her knives have

918
00:57:03.140 --> 00:57:06.590
toxic green or lime green handles. I love her

919
00:57:07.310 --> 00:57:11.110
or blacked out kitchen. They look really, really cool. But

920
00:57:11.110 --> 00:57:14.750
again, very simple design, very handy. And.

921
00:57:14.830 --> 00:57:18.310
And what a great slicer this is. This is just a

922
00:57:18.310 --> 00:57:21.990
beautiful knife to use. She. This is her favorite user in

923
00:57:21.990 --> 00:57:25.710
the kitchen for sure. Yeah, that, that green color

924
00:57:25.710 --> 00:57:29.430
is such a. Oh, yeah. So beautiful. And I also love the

925
00:57:29.430 --> 00:57:32.880
holes in the blade. I've always thought it would be because

926
00:57:32.960 --> 00:57:36.360
there's nothing to me. Well, there are plenty of things more

927
00:57:36.360 --> 00:57:39.440
frustrating than this, but I cut a lot of cucumbers

928
00:57:40.320 --> 00:57:43.840
and that stick the way they stick and then when they come off, they

929
00:57:43.840 --> 00:57:47.360
roll and all that. Oh, it drives me nuts. So you. So you know. Exactly.

930
00:57:47.440 --> 00:57:51.080
This does not solve it completely, but it does

931
00:57:51.080 --> 00:57:54.920
help, you know, have having those holes in it. And we also have

932
00:57:54.920 --> 00:57:58.720
holes in the. The Paul Rogowski collection on his

933
00:57:58.720 --> 00:58:02.400
large slicing knife. And very much same reason,

934
00:58:02.720 --> 00:58:06.440
you know, to have that work, to have

935
00:58:06.440 --> 00:58:09.880
it release a little bit again. Yeah. So

936
00:58:09.880 --> 00:58:13.560
lt, as we wrap here, I have a sort of a

937
00:58:13.560 --> 00:58:16.960
philosophical question, I guess, but what would you say your

938
00:58:16.960 --> 00:58:20.640
guiding principles are in business, in knife making

939
00:58:22.320 --> 00:58:24.640
that make L.T. wright knives. What it is

940
00:58:26.090 --> 00:58:29.770
from my side of thing is, is everyone has to

941
00:58:30.010 --> 00:58:33.770
like what they're doing and it doesn't matter what you're doing in life

942
00:58:33.770 --> 00:58:37.450
and it doesn't matter how much money you're making when you do it.

943
00:58:37.450 --> 00:58:41.210
If you're. If you really, really love what you're

944
00:58:41.210 --> 00:58:44.970
doing, then pursue that. Okay. And I just happened to get

945
00:58:44.970 --> 00:58:48.330
lucky in my life and get something that

946
00:58:48.810 --> 00:58:52.290
there's not a day I don't wake up and put a smile on my face

947
00:58:52.290 --> 00:58:55.770
because I get to go times with 10 of my best friends.

948
00:58:56.090 --> 00:58:59.890
I mean, come on, I'm a lucky guy, right? Yeah, sounds like it.

949
00:58:59.890 --> 00:59:03.250
So from that side, on a personal level, I would encourage

950
00:59:03.250 --> 00:59:07.090
anyone to just, man, you know, it's the follow your dream kind

951
00:59:07.090 --> 00:59:10.770
of thing. Because if you just, if you put enough effort into

952
00:59:10.770 --> 00:59:14.610
it and you just stick with it, stick with it, stick

953
00:59:14.610 --> 00:59:18.450
with it. It's going to work out. It. It just will. You're going to figure

954
00:59:18.450 --> 00:59:21.710
it out. If you really, really want to do it, you will it out

955
00:59:22.110 --> 00:59:25.350
from a business side. One of the biggest things that I want to make sure

956
00:59:25.350 --> 00:59:29.150
of and, and when I went into business. I looked at

957
00:59:29.150 --> 00:59:32.830
things a lot of different ways. I'm like, okay, every time I take

958
00:59:32.830 --> 00:59:36.310
my car in to get something fixed, it's out of

959
00:59:36.310 --> 00:59:40.070
warranty and it cost me 500 bucks, whatever. And that was

960
00:59:40.070 --> 00:59:43.790
just like, man, why, why does that keep happening on

961
00:59:43.790 --> 00:59:47.480
stuff? It's like, it shouldn't be that way. So I

962
00:59:47.480 --> 00:59:51.320
wanted to have the customer service side of the business

963
00:59:52.200 --> 00:59:55.960
very much in tune with it. Doesn't matter why you don't like.

964
00:59:56.040 --> 00:59:59.880
If you don't like the night, if it doesn't work for you, or if there's

965
00:59:59.880 --> 01:00:03.600
something wrong with it, just send it back. That's it. You

966
01:00:03.600 --> 01:00:07.160
don't have to argue. I mean, we've had people call ready to argue with Elaine

967
01:00:07.160 --> 01:00:10.920
on the phone, and she's like, send it back, man. We'll take care of

968
01:00:10.920 --> 01:00:14.200
it. You know, we're sorry for it. And she usually,

969
01:00:15.770 --> 01:00:19.530
9 out of 10 times, everyone's okay with that. But you have to have that.

970
01:00:20.170 --> 01:00:23.330
Don't be afraid to put your name on something. And when you do put your

971
01:00:23.330 --> 01:00:27.130
name on something, stand behind it and just be true about, you know,

972
01:00:27.690 --> 01:00:30.570
it's one of those. We have repair,

973
01:00:31.130 --> 01:00:34.850
replace, refund. That's it. There's. It's never

974
01:00:34.850 --> 01:00:38.410
going to be like, oh, too bad. You had it 31 days and the

975
01:00:38.410 --> 01:00:41.540
warranty stopped at 30. No manifest something

976
01:00:42.180 --> 01:00:46.020
there. And that's how I wanted to be treated. So I wanted

977
01:00:46.340 --> 01:00:50.140
that for our business. The other thing is we answer the phone. You don't have

978
01:00:50.140 --> 01:00:53.620
to go and get. Dial 4 to get customer service.

979
01:00:54.340 --> 01:00:57.300
You dial the phone and my wife will pick it up. If it does not

980
01:00:57.300 --> 01:01:00.100
pick up, I promise you it's because she's on the phone,

981
01:01:01.300 --> 01:01:04.980
but she'll call you back. I personally try

982
01:01:04.980 --> 01:01:08.670
to answer every single email every day. If I

983
01:01:08.670 --> 01:01:12.470
miss an email, I get it the next day. I just.

984
01:01:12.470 --> 01:01:15.910
Because that's again, that's how I want to be treated when I'm emailing something.

985
01:01:16.310 --> 01:01:19.910
People are contacting you because something to them is important.

986
01:01:20.310 --> 01:01:24.030
Whatever that thing is, it's important to them. It's not to

987
01:01:24.030 --> 01:01:27.750
me. It's irrelevant because they're reaching out to me. So

988
01:01:27.750 --> 01:01:31.590
I need to treat that just as important as they believe it is

989
01:01:31.590 --> 01:01:35.160
to them. So I want to stay on top of it. So you just want

990
01:01:35.160 --> 01:01:38.640
to get out there and do the best work you can. You're going to make

991
01:01:38.640 --> 01:01:42.480
mistakes. You know, we. We make boo boos now and then,

992
01:01:42.720 --> 01:01:46.320
and you just own up to them, fix them, and you just move right on

993
01:01:46.320 --> 01:01:49.520
and do better next time. And then we generally have a company meeting

994
01:01:49.920 --> 01:01:53.520
and I go, okay, guys, how did this slip through the cracks? And we put

995
01:01:53.520 --> 01:01:57.200
in a stop gap to make sure that that doesn't happen

996
01:01:57.200 --> 01:02:00.910
again. The policy in the shop right now is even

997
01:02:00.910 --> 01:02:04.590
my work gets looked at by one or two sets of eyes before it

998
01:02:04.590 --> 01:02:08.350
moves on. It has to be that way. It has to be that way.

999
01:02:08.350 --> 01:02:12.030
I'm not perfect and I miss stuff and I look at every single

1000
01:02:12.030 --> 01:02:14.750
grind that goes by. It comes by my

1001
01:02:15.390 --> 01:02:19.230
bench, you know, it just does. That's just the way we have the company set

1002
01:02:19.230 --> 01:02:22.670
up. So there's always multiple eyes on it. And the girls

1003
01:02:22.910 --> 01:02:26.290
before they drop it into the box, if they see something up the street, got

1004
01:02:26.290 --> 01:02:29.610
a little tick mark on it or something like that, back to the shop

1005
01:02:30.170 --> 01:02:33.770
they had, you know, that's just the way we do things. Outstanding.

1006
01:02:33.770 --> 01:02:37.610
A lot of golden rule I'm hearing in there and that's something

1007
01:02:38.010 --> 01:02:41.730
I think. Those are inspiring words to anyone listening

1008
01:02:41.730 --> 01:02:45.050
to this. Definitely. Knife makers and, and business people.

1009
01:02:45.690 --> 01:02:49.130
LT thank you so much for coming on the Knife Junk. You bet. I've really

1010
01:02:49.130 --> 01:02:52.890
enjoyed talking with you. Yeah, and you too, man. It's been a

1011
01:02:52.890 --> 01:02:56.250
nice conversation. Thank you for biting us on. I really

1012
01:02:56.250 --> 01:02:59.930
appreciate that. Anytime we get to talk about about the knives

1013
01:03:00.010 --> 01:03:03.610
and, you know, just where they came from or even the story of the powthouse

1014
01:03:03.610 --> 01:03:06.970
and stuff, I enjoy telling it. So thank you very much for the

1015
01:03:06.970 --> 01:03:09.770
opportunity. Oh, the pleasure is mine. Thank you, sir.

1016
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The knife junkie.com slash shop There he goes, ladies and

1018
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gentlemen, Lt Wright of Lt Wright Knives. I heard a lot

1019
01:03:21.990 --> 01:03:25.830
of follow your passion and customer service. What, what else do you

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01:03:25.830 --> 01:03:29.630
want to hear from one of our favorite knife makers out there? Be sure

1021
01:03:29.630 --> 01:03:33.310
to check him out on Instagram. Some great videos coming from the shop

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01:03:33.790 --> 01:03:37.550
there. And check out the beautiful website and. All the gorgeous knives.

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All right, for Jim working his magic behind the switcher, I'm Bob DiMarco saying

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