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It's the end of the world as we
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Is it a malnourished
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a and absolute freedom?
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dark unknown waters of the greater truth beyond.
Would we have the courage to walk through
the big door at the edge of everything
if it ever did open for us?
Well, these are the thoughts and mu of
many outsiders who dared to question the authorities
of their day and bravely buck the harsh
embrace of so called divine king ships not
so loving arms, often at the cost of
their own lives,
and we remember these groups throughout time as
agnostic.
Connected and held together only by commonalities
in their conclusions to big questions and their
unwavering commitment to never bending the fucking knee.
And you know I say cheers to that
and cheers to today's returning guest Miguel Connor.
The self described garage philosopher hedge theologian and
general mad across the waters.
You know him as the pope of no
podcasting with Bite radio and the author of
2 volumes of voice of no ism, as
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vampire Epic series, the dark instinct trilogy and
the fantasy novel, the execution daughter.
He's a true fellow traveler on the long
trail of Taboo and radical thoughts and ideas.
The system says did dare not think.
Our no times time keeper and curator of
the virtual Alexandria, Miguel. Welcome back.
Crown control to major Tom. Thanks for having
me back. I think the stars are aligned,
whether we're gonna get K
or Sophia, I think we'll find out in
this interview.
Indeed. And this is a real pleasure. I
can't believe it's been 7 years since the
first time we did this way back in
the much simpler times of 20 17.
Obviously, long overdue, but 1 of the main
catalysts for this is your upcoming conference, Astro
3.
This time, I'm focusing on Sofia and simulated
realities in Wheaton in Illinois, August ninth and
tenth. I'm actually going to get out of
the house for this 1 to meet you,
Chris K, Stephen the Spider Snyder, Mitch H,
and
more people who I enjoy their work and
would like to interview all in the same
weekend. Some of my favorite cell in this
false reality, but give people the pitch. What's
this all about?
Well, I mean, as you and I know,
we have benefited in this Internet age. We
can bitch all we want, but it is
such an amazing gift, almost a miracle that
we can interact
online. We can share ideas online.
The world is both a better and worse
place because of it.
Very grateful, but at the end of the
day, it's just pixels. I I see you.
You see me. Your audience you, but It
is completely
fake.
So a little bit less fake is always
gonna be getting together making the connections creating
egg,
the real no or the real
intense ideas are shared,
not just during
presentations, but in the hallways at the parties
when everybody sort of smoking and drinking their
stuff and... Hello. So basically, I started this
unique and soul
conference, and I actually... It was a friend
of mine, Ivan who lives in Mexico.
He's an expert at the yi ching, and
1 day years ago, he said let's, hey.
I just got this message from the Oracle.
You should do an no conference,
so we did it and it was 20
22
spring E equifax everything was still locked down.
You know, you still had to wear masks
on the plane. You still had to get
tests. I mean, it was almost insanity. They
told us and the oracle told him do
it in cancun.
So he did, and it was a success.
Sometimes he syncs work like you showing up
Gordon was traveling that area from Australia, so
he was a speaker.
Chris was able to go. We got a
good group, and we went see the pyramids.
We had the party, so it was awesome.
So we did 1 last year at the
society,
here in Wheaton Illinois because the energy there
is amazing and their library, their gardens. I
mean, you could feel the energy, and we
did our second 1 on the Arch archives
big success. So now we're doing the third
1, on, as you said, Sophia simulated realities
and
We got a great group. As he said,
we got Chris Know, Steven Snyder. We got
Richard Sm, Mitch H. We got professors,
whose expertise is Ai and where the Occult
Ai, we've got
astro, will also have workshops, interactive workshops,
and meditations because you wanna make it as
a experiential as possible,
so you will get those altered states
there'll be some terror readings and other
fun stuff authors will be their signing books,
and we will have a social event afterwards,
which is always just a lot of fun
and it's, again, these connections are so powerful
and they stay with you for a long
time. So.
Just trying to keep it real or at
least another form of reality, which is the
face to face talk as you know in
your show, they wanna keep us separated. They
want us sit our house is, they want
divide and conquer and for us to order
online, never leave our homes,
isolated,
so they can mine
our brains and this is just 1 way
to, you know, fight the empire.
I love it. Yeah. If you don't go,
The empire wins people,
guess if we can't get past the big
simulation, at least we can transcend the digital
1. I love it.
So last time we did the no system
01:01 stuff, but I was thinking more about
the seriousness of it all, and when we
talked about the Seth or the Cath?
These are groups of people who really are
the original conspiracy theorist at a time when
kings and priest classes would kill you for
even having alternative takes on reality or doubting
the dominant paradigm of the day.
And oftentimes that is what happened and were
left to learn about these people, usually from
the ones who slaughtered them in mass. Right?
Yes s indeed, I, the No 2000 years
ago
were talking about ugg, we live in a
simulation. Oh, there's the shadowy figures that are
pulling the strings. Oh, the individual is this
complex.
This complex universe within itself that needs to
be explored.
There should be a divine feminine in christianity
for balance sake and we forgotten the ancient
God like A asu and a knot, and
they were saying these things and they were
branded as narcissist
insane
All of that in suddenly 2000 years later,
they seem to be vin, Greg because all
these ideas are very except even scientific
when you think about it. So
that's what happens when you try to pull
the veil and that's what happened to the
no as you said about being individual,
I think the secret book of John says
we are the generation without a king and
Clement of Alexander says the no are so
addicted to the truth that they will never
give an oath. They were the original ana
kiss
The original conspiracy theorist, they were called Paranoid
and you guys are seeing too much in
2000 years ago by the Church Fathers.
And as Chris K very astute says they
were History's industry's first Ufo cult.
As Eric Davis says, they had sci f
sen
about
universes of light and these creatures in the
behind the stars that are controlling us, so
My work is to show how relevant and
powerful these non stick ideas are and of
course, as we talk before the interview, I
like to show that They also had a
dark side when I tell people and people
don't accept in this divide conquered to a
list it is that
You is right, everything casts a shadow. Everything
has its dark side, Christianity
islam, atheism.
You and I have shadows. It's a cosmic
law,
and nothing is completely good and completely bad.
In the os system despite its ability to
break through
reality and champion,
the
individuality in the d of every human being,
of course, it has a dark side.
Mh.
Well said, and for all Jordan Peterson faults,
1 thing I always liked that he said
was that you can't really truly be good
unless you've wrestled with your shadow and you
recognize your capacity for evil or just say
doing damage.
If you don't understand the capacity
and your ability to really wreak havoc on
the people around you, then you're just naive.
And we all know people who are good
hearted, good nature and kind of simple,
and it's like, well, that's what he's talking
about there as opposed to someone who's maybe
had a reckless youth
and, you know, tore through a few bad
relationships and
did their fair share damage should then realize,
oh, shit. I'm actually pretty powerful. I actually
can hurt people really badly, and I don't
want to do that. So now I'm gonna
rise to the occasion of being a better
person. I think that makes a lot of
sense. And these agnostic
peoples, they didn't want a corrupt
liaison to enlightenment. They want a direct experience,
and I think that's a noble thing.
And I brought this up early because there's
a perspective in conspiracy culture today that considers
the modern elite
orientation to be sick. They seek the stolen
gifts of prometheus and through science and technology,
seek to up end
God's creation quote unquote, the mark of the
beast is the smartphone or the vaccine passport
to the qr code, and the space programs
are all trying to jail break this reality
as futile as it might be. But when
we see the disdain
that human elite have for life
nature, the ecosystem, it becomes
very evil or at least means spirited,
but if this is a simulated reality, a
false reality under the thumb of false insane
gods and icons, does it even matter if
they're trying to tinker under the hood of
a false reality.
In a way it kinda doesn't.
Yeah. That's the argument that you could make
but I don't see it as
valid. I mean,
again, it's the old saying, don't watch what
they say watch what they do.
And
historically, the are the most echo friendly of
western culture.
I mean, the manic would not walk on
grass because they felt God was in every
blade of grass and the completely
vegetarian.
The Cath
and the manic and others thought that The
divine spark was in a every animal and
some thought it was in every rock or
stone.
Nature was indeed
They weren't pant. There were a pen In
other words, God is in everything. He's imminent
in everything.
So our job is humans is to bring
that d out and each other
and and
the entire world, jail break, the divine part
of the world, and you could take it
as literally or metaphorically as you want?
That's up to you.
Tell people your mileage may vary.
So they were at Pac they were vegetarian,
and we hear from the in and church
fathers, they were the nicest people, the cath
were called the good ones.
They cared about their community and all that.
So it was their ideas
and the rituals that really
the powers that b thought were dangerous. So
the idea that
reject or hate the world. They hate it
false worlds. That's what they kept pushing. And
they kept saying, look, the world in front
of you is not real. You're not real.
There's a deeper part of you and nate
sure that you're not looking at. Sure. We
can look at a nice sunset or you
can look at the beach.
But there's much more. You're not looking at
the full reality. There is a deeper d
that brings a sense of x to ecstasy,
but there's also a deeper suffering
that we mostly miss we can look in
nature of people and not see how they're
suffering.
And if we don't see how they're suffering,
we can't take the steps to help him
and heal them, na,
At his core as April to iconic and
other scholars that said was a about healing,
healing your mind, healing the world,
and healing your soul,
and healing people's physical body, some of the
rituals was just 2000 years ago just sitting
around talking about your problems.
And the other 1 too was to be
fully human, people think that the no sticks
were about, oh, I'm gonna escape the world
and fly away. Now is you made contact
with this alien God
and this alien god transformed you into human.
It was the her who said that We
humans have a special place in this universe.
We are not the Gods, but we're not
animals.
We are the mediator. We are where the
fallen angel meets the rising 8. Borrowing from
a a writer. So when we know our
place in this universe, when we're fully human,
we can change things so well in a
way that the gods and the animals will
appreciate our role in the universe. I hope
I didn't go too much an attention. They're
gray.
No. That's really interesting to me because I
think there is a perspective where a lot
of people
take this logical track of well No think
we're in a simulation and thus,
they don't respect it and wanna break it
and the simulation is the world we know.
The physical world we know. So...
It is true. It's interesting though to hear
that they actually had reverence for it they
just were trying to say, no. There's stuff
underneath. There's a
connectivity to everything and maybe a bit of
an an perspective, and that's maybe what they
were trying to.
Express.
Very true because for the origins of g
ism since we last talked, I think Scholarship
is putting them more into ancient Egypt. They
were the carriers
of these ancient Egyptian mysteries that really expanded
your consciousness.
But the other 1 too is that the
no were smuggling
this ancient an spirit of ash asu
and a knot and other spirit that were
suppressed by the cult of Y when Judaism
decided.
During the rings of king, Jo and He,
they decide alright. We want the cult of
Y this male, powerful God to be it.
And they suppressed Shi in the ancient an
and shamanism of solomon and the prophets and
all that and
Some say like Margaret Barker, who's 1 of
the greatest biblical scholars of today that basically
the
hid
Ash in this magic and then brought it
out during the g Roman times,
and basically, Sophia is a,
Christ is the original concert of Ash asu
before it got changed around and the Ae
are just the ancient spirits of this an
world that the hebrews lived in and they
were sort of smuggling them around through Jesus
through Simon Mag through Mary Mag. So
I think that's an interesting theory and like,
and I'm just mentioning because you did say
an is yes. And Gordon would agree. There
is an an.
Sense to the au when Gordon and Talk,
we say, yeah, but they really went for
the tricks part of shamanism
to them When you read that Os Gospel
Jesus Sophia, they fall into the tricks mentality.
So,
originally also they really
perhaps it was set, perhaps it was hermes,
perhaps it was some tricks spirit, but that's
where they leaned into was the tricks
mentality.
Mh.
Yeah. I think this is really useful because
the conspiracy minded person, I think sometimes gets
paranoid
about am I on the right team? Am
I falling for some deception? Am I being
tricked and inc into a
bad mythos and a bad way of looking
at the world, and it's really hard to
unravel because history is full of just propaganda
and mis,
and you have to put these people in
their time in place like There's an argument
to say that most of western society, the
history
of authority kind of boils down to
trying to mono
people's thoughts largely about the spiritual,
you know, Christianity and catholicism for a long
period of time and killing off any competition
to this narrow
perspective where we will be the liaison to
your enlightenment
and
I think that's pretty valid as a perspective,
but when you put these people back in
their
time in place. That rebellion makes perfect sense.
It was a bloody, deadly time for anyone
who dared challenged the paradigm.
But today because we are kind of free
to have most
thoughts, you see this huge contingency of the
conspiracy culture drifting towards being a good little
conventional Christian, and that seems odd to me.
I think we're supposed to be
rebels, and that tendency doesn't feel very
rebellious to me, but I could see how
only in this little
particular time in place it kind of
is because it's the opposite of atheism, which
is kind of the dominant cy
atheism thing, but
If you take the longer arc of human
history, this has been kind of the control
mechanism, the weaponized
philosophy of most of that story.
Oh, yeah. I would agree. I think Greg,
my ideas is that
Yes. You see a lot of individuals again,
Jordan Peterson.
I was what's the name of the comedian?
He was Katy Perry husband,
Russell Brand. Russell brand, you see a 2
with colleagues and acquaintances that really going into
Christianity.
And they've turned on me about no and
I am compassion because I realized
2016,
I think is when this mess started. I'd
like to say David Bowie died or whatever
something was happening 2016,
we got the greatest tricks of them all
Trump.
And then we had this fog of war
with the lockdown downs with everything this happened.
There was a great awakening
But this brought a lot of chaos or
we had to face the chaos. People had
to see
that our government was a lie that our
history is a lie that we are a
alive. That's the other
step into,
that is hard to swallow.
So it makes sense that a lot of
people would wanna go to Y in the
Bible because he is the God of order.
Maybe he says it. There's
Christianity, you do these steps, you read this
book.
Everything's gonna work out just half faith. So
I could see it, but I think people
like you and I, Greg is no. We
know how to surf the chaos. We've been
doing it all our lives. So we don't
have a problem
feeling like we're fake or that our histories
lie or going deeper into all these spirit
and balancing them out and put it, you
know, We embrace the tricks to spirit,
which leads to innovation and new ideas and
a new world, but I can understand people
going into, you know, greek orthodox is very
popular in the conspiracy theory world isn't it?
So I understand people want order because
we live in a time of chaos of
the tricks,
but I to tell them
We are just getting started. Hang on for
the ride because don't you feel Greg, we
are just at the tip of the iceberg
when it comes to revelations could conspiracy
religious. We're just getting warmed up.
Yeah. I do agree with that. And if
you can't take the heat now,
Wow. I mean, it's only gonna get hotter.
Go to a monastery if that'll make you
happy.
Yeah. Yeah.
And I also like to say we're
exploring ideas. You cannot come to a paradigm
or a philosophy
with confidence if you haven't
explored all the ideas just because I interview
a scholar of Crowley does not mean I'm
advocating to be A follower of Crowley, I'm
trying to see if I've been lied to
about this guy or if my intuitions are
correct and We have to do that. We
have to try on different hats to find
the 1 that truly fits us. And if
you're
demon
a person for exploring ideas. I think you're
no better than the bad guys. You know,
you say virtual Alexandria, this is a place
to share ideas. You know, that's kinda your
whole branding is, we're
talking about here ideas. I like that you
use here
as like a badge of honor in a
sense.
And we're lucky that we have the ability
and freedom too,
go into those theoretical ideas, But today's theoretical
ideas are the conspiracies, you know, because spirituality
basically dripped out of mainstream
culture, and now it's
to doubt climate science to doubt,
virus science to doubt all this kind of
stuff. You know, you can't doubt that America's
the good guys fighting
the evil around the world, but let's
bring this back to an agnostic sec that
people know the K r's and try to
flush this out because a lot of it
does
relate to their
reputation. I've read estimates that 200000
to a million people were killed by the
church in the case of the Cath
And then the church says well, we did
that because these people were bad. They were
doing dark evil things. And it feels like
a recurring theme in this place that kings
and presidents and priests and pope leave campaigns
to slaughter, huge numbers of people that they
can't seem to control, But because they tell
their obedient masses that these people were savage
indians or freedom hating terrorists or Satan Worshiping
magic users,
people say, oh, okay. Well, I'm glad you
got them then because who knows what kind
damage they could have done,
and it's just so weird that that
that little trick works when these the people
doing the massive damage, brutally slaughtering huge groups
of people
because they're doing things their own way or
just doing things differently and it's wild we
accept that propaganda
when we know
who the mass murderers are, but how does
this play into the stories of the Cath
r's and other
groups that are considered no because
From a certain perspective,
they have a really bad
reputation,
and that's because when you kill a bunch
of people and you destroy their material and
then you get to tell the world about
them. They usually seem bad, but I guess,
correct the record on that and
talk us about how we even get good
information about these groups when so much of
it was destroyed.
Well, again, it just takes gathering of scholarship
because you're right, we have no surviving Cath.
Writing it's everything that was sent through the
in intuit, and I should mention that The
acquisition started with the cath cassettes. That's when
the church really used. It was the... Their
experiment at controlling society
and projecting their shadow on a minority and
grabbing their lands and and all that. They
went to the cath cassettes, and then they
started moving to, you know, Jews and women
and But, whoever was in their way, classic,
same as it ever was, but
we know even from record that we have
the Cath again, as I mentioned, were very
eco friendly they were beloved,
by their people in southern France, in that
providence. They were enlightened.
It was a great time in the, you
know, 12 thirteenth century where you had ka
and Cath sars,
women had more rights,
and it was just a beautiful place some
say that A was being practiced in southern
France I've had guests talk about magical portals,
so it was a beautiful time, but something
like this was just not gonna be allowed.
To exist because again, the church was starting
to centralize
itself,
and it needed to make an example out
of people, and again, the cath and their
ideas of pretty much how again we live
in a simulation,
by then, you know, a thousand years later,
the idea of the demi was lost, so
Satan was the demi he was the creator
of this world, they called them the king
of this world,
bringing in titanic, the cosmo crater,
Rex Moon,
and he was keeping us trapped. We were
basically
angels that had been convinced or dupe into
being human.
And through certain rituals, we get awaken into
ourselves. The Cath qatar rejected the old testament.
They only
red really the gospel of John and a
few others. There's certainly evidence that the Cath
sars and the knights temp were rubbing shoulders
because
Well, there's a lot of evidence on that
1, too, if you wanna get into it,
and we also have reconstruction of their gospel
bowls and their mythology
all that. So I think it's pretty valid.
This day and age. We've separated the wheat
from the shaft.
And, yeah, what we have is a complete
horrible tragedy that should have never happened. I
mean, the cath did not survive.
There are rumors that some of them may,
but for the most part, they were yet.
Hundreds of thousands,
including catholics were destroyed. You know that saying,
kill them all and led god's sort amount.
That was, I think the bishop of To
lose or went northern French royal who said
that, he asked the church. You know, the
cath are mixing up with the Catholics. It's
kinda like today with the... You have the
Hamas and the Palestinians
and the bishop was like, kill him all,
God will know his own.
So again, this sort of rhythm
happens throughout history as Mark Twain said, history
doesn't repeat, but it certainly rhymes, and it
goes back to the simulation. Right, Greg. It's
almost like there's a theme
we cannot get out of.
Yeah. It's just so crazy how the propaganda
works. You just say, well, they were doing
bad things, so we slaughtered them in mass,
burned them at the stake, and
we saved you, and it's like, well, what
were they doing that was worse than what
you just did. But when we talk about
magic, like, that's another huge
avenue of propaganda, I would say where
I consider it to be just like flexing
our deeper
largely
muscles. That's kinda what I think magic is
maybe sigh and mental muscles you could say.
And obviously, authorities never want us to have
any personal power. So it's considered an evil
taboo. We hear stories that the knights temp
were worshiping Ba
for power and kissing each other's assholes as
if god would care.
And then, you know, purposely trying to offend
God and appeal to demons who take gl
in that but we're told this by the
people who were torturing
the knights temp and burning them alive and
grinding
their ideology down to dust. So I think
it's pretty clear to see who the bad
guy is in that story. But what would
you say about
some of these groups
who are practicing Magic, the K r's, like,
they're blending magic and Christianity
in a way, At least that's the gist
that I see
And
that is the thing that allows the door
to open to the propaganda of well, they're
drinking children's blood.
And it's like, well, I think there's a
lot of magic in between
drinking people's blood and then something like just
pain attention to numero neurology and astrology.
You know, It's like,
it reminds me of people saying, don't try
marijuana because all of a sudden you're gonna
be a heroin junkie, and it's like, yes.
Some people do... There are heroin junkie. Yes.
That is an extreme
and magic could scale up to experimenting with
really dark things, which I think does happen
behind the curtain.
But I don't know if it's these individuals
who are doing it. You say they kinda
committed to
purity, ce c, and didn't indulge in earthly
pleasures. I almost get kind of a robin
hood vibe
from their attitude of their day amongst their
communities and stuff, but talk to us a
little bit about magic and what we know
about Cath Magic and the knights temp and
all these people who are Christian adjacent but
just not Christian enough and had to be
killed off. What were they really doing with
their magic?
Well, yeah, for the temp, I certainly would
recommend you take up Tracy T and Alex
Rivera, a ba,
secrets reveal because she makes such an excellent
argument that ba simply means baptism of Sophia.
And she puts this great argument that the
temp like the Cath
we're keeping these ancient Secrets.
Now some of them may have been dark,
some of it may have not been But
I think we have to get to the
idea of magic because what's the old saying
we practice
religion, they practice magic.
Okay. What's the... You know, the Catholic mass
is pretty magical.
And as I think Robert Connor said magic
is
religion for the individual and religion is magic
for the masses. So the term is very
elastic and gets weaponized
many times,
but what is it? I agree with Gordon
White. He says magic is being a c
creator with the universe.
And, of course, then there's the crowley
term, which is, you know, a change in
consciousness in accordance to the will
Whatever... But I think at the core,
na since thousands of years ago were shaman.
And again, this is supported by all
Latest
sober scholarship.
They were cha they were about altered states
of mind to reach higher worlds
and receive the healing or
information of these higher worlds and these higher
beings, the aa. And, of course,
because they were part of the Egyptian matrix,
part of this flying out of your body,
meant you had to deal with the den
of the stars, these icons that control the
dimensions and you had to give them passwords
or
prayers to overcome them. So it really was
sort of this out of body journey
to meet this alien God or the 1
of plato doh, whatever you wanna call it
for healing,
for an expansion of consciousness,
for answers to your life,
Whatever you wanna call it, and it wasn't
that rare. The neo plate certainly did that,
Mer a jews,
the cult mit thrust,
the mystery religions, there was a part as
They say of every religion where, you know,
there's 1 side who just wants to do
the rituals, go to church on Sunday and
then just, you know, hope I'll be fine
in the afterlife, but there was always those
who have this thirst to look behind the
veil
and rise through the different worlds
and make contact with these higher beings. So
very normal in shamanism today, I've done
I Ayahuasca it was Santo dim a few
times and I have had that experience where
all of the sudden I'm like, oh, shit.
I'm am leaving my body.
And I am just journey up into this
world and I am meeting creatures and all
that, and I am, like, I don't care
if this is real or not. It actually
was real... I could prove it,
but
that is
something that people perhaps like you and I
just have a thirst and prove throughout history,
the shaman and the witch doctor and the
medicine women were honored. That was her job.
Right? They were the spiritual troubleshoot.
They were the ones who went into the
spirit world and brought back recipes for medicine
and magic spells.
And it was all to help the tribe.
It was to help the tribe grow, and
that as
civilization got more left brain, kinda got cut
out. We no longer
respect the shaman or the no or the
mystic or they have to be under our
control like it happens in the Catholic church
with
saying John and others were that's fine but
we'll lock you up, but everything has to
be within the con of us, so church
I think that's what you would say No
magic is, but they had folk magic, you
have no spells where there's, healing spells and
it'll say do this, take that. Some in
this creature, and you will be healed of
whatever ailments you have, but That's been pretty
normal in an
or c
throughout history. Nothing strange and obviously, A,
came from the No stick matrix in upper
Egypt.
Mh.
I think that's a great summary. There are
clearly Shaman who do operate. From ego
and they like to abuse the power they've
achieved. But for the most part, it does
seem like a service what A priest sleep
class should be doing.
And
the terms I hear most often are healing,
Hidden knowledge
and soul retrieval.
There's a lot of stories of a person
who gets sick and the s says, oh,
well, something's going on in the astra plane
with your spiritual twin. Let me go out
there and fix that for you and unravel
that mess, and then they come down in
the person's healed. It's like, what
But it's certainly not evil. It's just bizarre.
And I think there's a really also interesting
bizarre overlap with modern Ufo
encounters and people who then come out of
that with a call to basically be a
shaman,
and it's like, wow. I wonder if that's
how some of this got kicked off in
the beginning or if it's the
safety valve of the universe to be like,
you need more shaman
send out the sauce.
And what do you think about that overlap?
Yeah. For sure. For sure. Yeah. Ufo.
People who are abducted by Ufo,
statistically, their lives change for the better.
They get degrees. They change their lives
they affect others, so there is
certainly a parallel of making contact with this
other
with these different intelligence and transforming your lives.
And again, this should not be different. I
mean, as you say, today, it has changed.
Suddenly, psychedelics
are more important
Altered states of mind are being championed, but
again, there's a lot of hu out there
and it always comes down, doesn't matter what
you're doing?
Have a good hero fund. Have a good
shame to take you. It does... I mean,
Same Catholicism And when I was a catholic,
I'd be like, Oh my god. We joined
this church and this priest gives the worst
sermon. He has the worst advice during confession,
but then at another church, I'm like this
guy gets it, and he's so great. So
yeah, humans are humans and always find you
gotta find a good teacher to take you
through the other side.
Mh.
Indeed, and I am kinda with you that
I agree that a lot of these things
blossom back
into society that have been cut out is
a good thing. It's a return to form.
A lot of times it's using things that
are just in nature that are probably there
for the seekers, for these exact reasons. If
the creator of this world didn't ever want
us to know of anything else, then there
wouldn't be mushrooms growing around, and, you know,
wheat growing. It's called weed for a reason.
It's pretty easy to grow if you let
it grow. And
there is this modern conspiracy framing that trans
is agnostic or that that's the dominant off
of the day. I agree that it's the
dominant off of the day and the trajectory
that they're trying to push us towards where
we are kind of enslaved through technology,
but that's not
agnostic to me. Like, you could say that
people loop in the trans and they're like,
well, they're trying to make us all
just this big blob person that's half cy
board.
And that's another form of enslave. That's not
enlightenment. That's just a deeper level of enslave
to technology.
It's a weaponized
no.
It's a red herring. Like you say, you
need
people you can trust on the journey because
there's a lot of hu, and there's a
lot of people trying to take a truth
and then
twist it down a dark alley, and now
you're stuck. And I think that's what trans
is, I don't think it's necessarily agnostic on
its surface. You look at the matrix and
you say, oh, it's a agnostic tail and
it involves the machines taking over and so
thus trans is agnostic, but no. It's using
some
cherry picked aspects of g ism to sell
you
another
delusion because the leader always selling us some
negative,
perspective, and so that's... That's what I see
is, like, you have to make the case.
You have to make the sale as they
say. You can't just say, oh, well, we're
trying to enslave you all. We're trying to
fuck your whole world
You can't say that. You gotta sell people
on it. So that's what I think they're
doing is selling it. In this agnostic,
trans,
next evolution of man kind of thing, but
it's just a it's another dark alley,
Oh, yeah. For sure. Again, as I mentioned,
and then Oz texts are very
focused on this and you see it the
ritual.
It's not about leaving your humanity evolving. It's
about embracing your humanity.
I mean, the like other ancient and shaman
believe we've got everything we need to be
healthy to be sane.
To be powerful. We are innate magic. We
have the as the her says as above
so below as within so without. We are
in the universe, but the universe is in
our minds. The human
mind is limitless, and it can heal our
body. It can
find
solutions and that's what the were champion. I
mean, look at the matrix,
Neo doesn't defeat the agents in the first
movie because he figures out some technology. He
just simply wakes up, to his own humanity
to his own innate power
to see beyond the
simulation.
So, yeah, I would say trans
is a corrupt form of
g ism obviously tools are important as the
myth of prometheus goes.
Zeus didn't give us claws or wings or
all that cool stuff. Were just hair monkeys.
So prometheus, the tricks had to give us
fire from the Gods or again, the watchers
had to give us tools too, You have
this story. Anu
all that. Our power is that we are
able to use the techno, the technology
to better ourselves and stand up against Olympus
against the,
but we're not supposed to mel,
like the bo or something else into cy.
The technologies and extension of our mind and
our potential as humans.
Yeah. Well said, well said, and maybe this
is a
Stupid stone thought I haven't even smoked today,
but I've smoked enough that I don't know
if I'm ever truly not high.
But it's like the 5 most dangerous words
to the sis them, whether it's religion,
government, at any point in history or pretty
much...
I have everything I need.
Yeah.
I think that's kind of interesting because it's
like, I don't need your religious authority. I
don't... I just don't need you. And the
system loves to be needed and likes to
make you feel inadequate, hey, there's a whole
and we're gonna fill it for you.
And, I think that's the way the system
is always operated. You have to make the
person feel inadequate
lesser than
And then you say, well, we got the
solution right here.
And it's just that simple, but you mentioned
that you could prove that your Ayahuasca ex
experience
were real. And I think anyone who has
their own out of body, psychedelic,
transformative
experience knows what they need to know. But
how would you say that you could prove
that it was real?
While I'm glad you asked, Greg, because I
do have the proof.
This was 1 of my first ones, I
think it was 2006,
I call it my B experience and it
was a huge group in port, my uncle.
He's the shaman, the head of the Portuguese
Ib church. And we were doing... That it
was like 50 people and we're doing Ayahuasca.
In Central D, for hours, 4 6 hours.
You're playing the instruments dancing,
you're singing all these H Christian songs, but
somehow they keep you grounded. I can't explain
it,
but as we're doing it,
I just sat down and I started leaving
my body.
And I am going up up, and I
am leaving the church,
which is next to my uncle uncles house.
He built the church next to it. And
I am going up, and I am going
into this place of complete darkness of void
and it's stirring
and I look up and I say,
it's a b. Some I call this being
a ab b,
and it was staring back at me
And I had this horrible sense of negativity
or and maybe was just this sort of
scary eye. And I was like, If I
keep going this being of ab access is
just gonna
swallow me because I have noticed it.
As this was happening, my aunt, she's in
the house next door Greg,
she had a broken leg.
And she said that in the middle of
the night because it was really late, She
woke up and she said, if Miguel doesn't
come down, he's never gonna come back. So
my end gets in a chair with her
broken leg and she's got a broom.
She goes out of the house. She's going
around the corner of the neighborhood
And suddenly, my uncle says he thought everything
was fine. I was sitting there. He's,
again, orchestrating the entire event.
My aunt suddenly like burst in,
and she's like, screaming at my uncle,
wake me miguel up. He's too far out.
He's not coming back ryan goes like, holy
shit. So he looks around sees I'm over
there in 1 part of the room and
he goes and he did, like, shakes me.
And suddenly in my head, I am coming
down and I woke up and I'm like,
oh, hey.
And he was like,
then my aunt was like, oh, thank God.
So
How did she know that I was in
trouble that I was... Because not everybody gets
an of body experience some people have?
Vision, some people just get high, some people
just get emotional. It's kinda rare for somebody
to leave their bodies unless and says how
did she know at that time to wake
up and get me. So there is something
there. There was something there, Greg.
Hell, yeah. That mirrors my own experience when
I went out of body, I could see
from
a bird's eye view
the 2 friends I was with shaking me
in the chair, like, trying to get me
to wake up, and I was watching them,
like, I can either go back and
make them more comfortable or I can go
see what's going on up here in this
weird experience I'm having, but I could come
back. And then at the end of it,
I explain what I thought happen. And I'm
like, I could see you guys shaking me
and and they're were like, yeah, we were
doing that. I'm like, well, yeah, I mean,
not exactly as extreme confirmation as your own,
but Somewhere in the ballpark of what people
experience without a body near earth experiences on
the surgery table, you know, and they see
things in the operating room.
That they shouldn't be able to see from
up above. So, yeah, I think all that
stuff is very real and
to come back to
The Cath a little bit, I interviewed Richard
Stanley recently, who I know you've talked to
also,
and his passion for the K,
and the lim spaces in the south of
France is very
contagious.
There is a lot of miss story around
Cath treasure and magical secrets and things like
the holy grail and their castle of
Mont, I think is how it's pronounced, but
has your interest in these sex ever slipped
over into trying to sort out the stories
of their lost treasures and the my mistake
around that sort of stuff?
Not really. I mean, I like the classical
no because they were closer to the... As
we're talking to shaman
rituals, the,
the A me, all this fun stuff they
were dabbling with And to me the Ka,
it's not even... I mean, as I've talked
to Richard and
it's the portals that are there. The energies
that are there I would love to go
down there with Richard. He lives there in
Southern France and just, I mean, I've heard
he does these rich shows with no drugs,
no nothing that he will get you to
freaking altered state of mind where you will
be watching spirits,
and he has this wisdom and that he
knows all these
rituals and exercise. I'm like, oh, I gotta
get there, but also because I think that
area has an energy of portals. I don't
know if you're familiar with
Pat patricia Chaplain, she is the granddaughter of
Charlie Chaplin.
She went down to Southern Spain
and she found the secret society that included
Jack
and others where they were playing with these
portals
and she did the research. He also did
the rituals, which were amazing, and she found
out yet something
about Southern Spain, Southern France, even Portugal,
that there's all these portals that people use,
maybe that's what attracted the who knows or
the temp that
you can just go into these amazing worlds
if you do them and you know, there's
many theories,
there's a black meteor that fell there. There's
some people call Luc, although, something think that
there was a black meter that there might
have been from Ky bell. I mean, there's
many theories of why it was something the
Romans left or was it even older, but
that area, man. Yeah. It's like, sometimes I
like command. We need to have astro there
next year and just trip out. We don't
come back.
I was just gonna say astro
4. Let's make it happen. I'll even go
have these with you It'll be higher.
And we can even loop gordon, hire noses
soup, the real deal or loop Chris and
it's secret higher noses soup. Average churches just
take us to where we need to go
man. Hey, man. I mean, when I did
that interview, I felt like we were really
kindred spirits, we had a great time a
good vibe. He was smoking the whole time.
As he did in your interview too. And
it was the first join I smoked in
my new house here because I don't really
smoke in the house because of the kids,
but I was like, I gotta share a
joint here. I gotta share a smoke with
Richard Stanley at least digitally
because we're just so in the weeds and
having a good time.
And that'll always be something I remember. I'd
had a joint... I mean, I don't know
what he was smoking. I think he rolls
his own cigarettes because he's smoking too, but
it looks. Very much like a joint, but
I had a smoke with the director of
Colorado space. Oh, what a movie you. And
that's fun. That's a good thing. That's is
this is Why the job isn't so bad.
Right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Great movie.
Amanda Radcliffe.
They used to date now they're french. She's
also priest.
Order of Mary Mag and all that, and
she helped do the rituals at the beginning.
So they're all authentic, You know, at the
beginning, the The protagonist is a pagan and
that's straight out of Sal and other traditions.
So Amanda Radcliffe also is amazing and
I think she's moved to England before while
she was there in Southern France.
Last time, you did mention.
Charlie Chaplin
granddaughter, and that whole thing, and she's been
on my list of people to interview, and
it's been 7 years. I mean, that's how
long my list. Is Let's just say to
people who are constantly firing off request to
me. But last time we also talked about
the
and the su and the men,
these maybe modern agnostic sex that I really
know very little about basically only
the names.
And they're still being hunted to extinction or
they were at the time of that last
conversation, Is there any new information about their
plight since we last talked in 20 17?
No. Unfortunately, they have been... Still a terrible
conditions. They have moved away.
I know
Chris and rec Stephen Snyder have a lot
of research that talk about... I don't know
if I can say it on your show,
Pe
o of Su, how rampant it is.
I haven't gone down that rabbit hole yet,
but I get it's I want to hear
all the arguments even though I like Su
fizz myself. Everything as a shadow. Right? You
know, kids are the greatest
treasure for the Arch archives and they lead
and all that. We know that and it's
unfortunate and you and I hopefully expose some
of this stuff.
So at the conference ask him about that,
I'll I'll join you guys, but not much
into the Y, I mean, I guess Gordon
makes a good argument in starship that the
Uc actually might be thousands of years old,
a p
religion. It is agnostic for sure. They have
this cosmology
where they have a Male da,
this fallen angel that falls into this world
and then controls the world
very agnostic, although, they don't see the angel
is bad. He's just part of the system?
I do have a few articles on the
parallels of the Y yosemite
and the ancient os as well as the
men
and a few other groups there yet. But
that's a whole whole another conversation we can
have.
Yeah. It's really hard to
get information on some of these situations because
they don't really have advocates and they don't
have
any real
media apparatus
to advocate for them. And the more you
learn about the world, the more you learn
that there are jenna sides and atrocities constantly
happening, and the news only wants you to
focus on a couple of them because there's
some advantageous reason
for the Capstone Cabal to focus on that.
Maybe you've say, oh, well, there's some crazy
shit going on the congo, probably stirred up
by the Cia,
probably because there's resources there that they need.
So that becomes a story. Obviously, the Middle
East is a story, but I've heard there's,
like, 5 or 6 different
genocide going on right now. We only know
about maybe 1 of them,
and
that's a sad thing. I mean, it's hard
to not be ignorant of it because it's
just kind of a closed
door that is really hard to open. Where
would you go for? The information on some
of this stuff. It's like that classic phrase
the more you think you learn, the more
you know you don't know anything.
Yeah. Yeah. And nothing is real and never
believe the official story. Was it, I I
was listening. I don't watch podcast is the
Bowie elvis book of just like sucked all
the air out of the room, but I
listened to the Colbert
report.
And for 2 hours, he had a great
argument that everything we were taught about Rwanda
was a lie. You know, we think of
the 2 groups and 1 group given with
machete and killed a million
people and all that. And the genes genocide
did happen, but it was actually...
There were forces behind there, and you know
the forces. Israel, the United States,
England,
Belgium, You know, the usual characters were sort
of fueling this conflict in Of course, we
were never told that.
They will give us a little truth and
corrupt with lies or just take away enough.
The details so we buy into some really
false stories.
Same as it ever was with but pretty
much everything.
Yes. And James Cor, 1 of the greats.
But
it is about that time.
I always like talking to you It's weird
because there certain people like you that, like,
I look and I'm like man, we've only
done 1 interview before really, but I feel
like you're a fellow traveler,
and I just feel like we connect more
than we really do in an odd sense,
but thank you for coming back to talk
to me before I cut loose. Remind people
of all the irons you have in the
fire, maybe some favorite recent interviews, the conference
all that good stuff.
Yeah. Astro is August ninth tenth at the
theo
society. Let's see if we talk to spirits.
And it's gonna be a blast. It's gonna
be great to see you there, Greg.
So, check it out at my website,
Then obviously, my web page is the god
above god dot com.
That's my hub, right, A
radio my podcast.
Books, videos, articles, anything, any way you wanna
approach understanding no or her.
You can find it there.
I do have my books, but I am
excited again for
April of next year. It's gonna be the
elvis book. It's called a the Occult Elvis,
the magical life of the king,
working on right now on the draft for
Bowie books so that could take years. I
don't know. I let the spirits stake. I
have no expectations.
I also have
taro that we released this year,
the no Terror, I have the virtual alexandria.
Academy, if people... It's like 18 videos courses.
People have really liked it. And if you
wanna learn about agnostic, that's 1 way to
do it.
Heck yeah. And you definitely have a lot
of great interviews, some times, we overlap, but
you have much tighter focus, which is really
impressive. I think I would run out of
material. If I had such a tight focus,
That's why I'd like to cast a wide
that, do a little of this, do some
40 stuff, do some conspiracy stuff. Doctor
Joanna Qui was 1 of your most recent
guests, and she is really fascinating, and she
definitely opened my eyes up to the idea
of true K
experience and
what that even is and how to try
to make sense of it, but
There is a real argument there that the
divine feminine was suppressed because
of
a enlightened
woman's ability to give this experience and all
roads to
enlightenment, Psychedelics
everything must be suppressed and how do you
suppress
this if it's inside of a woman. You
gotta suppress the whole beans, so Just in
the same way Psychedelics were suppressed in the
church and like, we will be yearly liaison
to anything greater, and that's it.
You could say the same thing about women.
It made me think that the reason for
all that
was a little deeper than it seems on
the surface.
For sure, if you can suppress women, you
can control nature. I think it's a very
basic thing.
And again, women are the portals to the
chaos. That
Jordan Peterson talks bad about, but we need
balance. We need chaos order, divine feminine
that These energies are part of our ind
infiltration, and you can't suppress 1 or another,
just like you can't suppress your shadow,
and expect things are gonna go well because
suppressing your shadow
brings a lot of pain
and destruction to your sanity. So
time to restore these things and don't be
afraid If you're not careful,
you just may learn something, and You may
just end up finding out who you are.
Amen. Look at that. A real pro. You
know how to stick a landing.
Well, I very much look forward to meeting
you and the gang next month, I hope
some Thc fans come out since there is
so much overlap between our 2 worlds and
That said, I'll see in a few weeks.
Awesome. Thanks for having me on.
Man, how the time does. Fly. 1 of
my favorite podcast in the game, Miguel Connor.
I just can't believe we haven't done this
more often, but the archive don't lie.
And I hope I'm getting this episode out
in time for a few Midwestern Thc fans
to have the time to plan to make
the pilgrimage out to the event.
It is so rare for me to pull
the trigger on something like this, but meeting
Miguel, Chris K and Steven Snyder in person
in the same weekend is worth it for
me. And I would imagine a lot of
people listening,
understand that and probably agree. So come on
out.
It happens to be,
A perfect time and place for me on
a personal level, my dad requested no funeral.
He just wants his asha ashes buried under
a tree in our food forest us that
were
in the slow process of flushing out.
But his roots have always been in Chicago
and he still got several siblings there. My
cousin closest then to a brother that I
have is also there. And I think it
would be nice to at least see
his side of the fan and have a
meal in remembrance. So I'm gonna be fitting
that into the evenings
and spending time at the event by day,
Emily My wife is great and thinks this
would be good for me, so it's on,
and I hope some Thc fans make it
out.
I don't really foresee any other real world
stuff from me for a while,
but Miguel was also cool enough to give
plus members a coupon code for the event.
Obviously,
real world events like this have a ton
of costs and it's an undertaking, I wouldn't
ever wanna endure for So it's not like
he can just put a code out there
to all listeners, but even
something for plus members, a really generous thing.
So I figured the best way to communicate
the code
in a way that it's only accessible to
plus members is is Probably just to do
something super rare and say it now and
red it for the free version of the
show. So for 20 percent off physical tickets,
either normal or the Vip that gets you
into the social event in the evening. And
for 15 percent off online tickets, it's So,
yes, even if you can't physically be there,
you can still see all the presentations online.
And still get a discount. Thank you Miguel.
So
plus people will hear that added information and
free listeners will not,
All people can find the links to get
tickets in the show notes, but of course,
the code won't be there. And the code
saves you more than 8 dollars anyway, so
think about that. And maybe join plus and
then work your magic if you know what
I mean. But, yes, you can go there
physically
and you can
Get all the presentations with an online pass,
and that also has a coupon code for
plus members.
But that said, still a great time talking
to Miguel. He knows no system as well
as anyone, his guests on his show really
present a very wide.
Range of thoughts and opinions
on it in various ways.
And I think he's really good at handling
the question. I think a lot of us
have, which is if no is is a
dark philosophy or
spiritual orientation as he would say.
And just as conspiracy researchers with a Christian
perspective tend to say well, in my paradigm
bad things come from Satan, thus the Esoteric
elite are satan,
which obviously to me is an overs
simplification
used to confirm one's worldview. It seems like
the same could be said about no and
that for an individual, it is about transcend
and taking your life in your own hands
and developing your spiritual self through direct experience
and discipline.
I'm pro that,
as well as the broad idea of awakening
to deeper realities all around us the whole
they live cons
awakening.
And I do think that's a spiritual experience,
a cons
awakening. But obviously, it's Around here, we like
to talk that talk and walk that walk.
Now, Christian might say, well, the elite hate
God, so they're trying to break his creation
and push trans,
and that's agnostic.
But I see trans as a deeper deception,
a matrix within a matrix.
As Miguel said,
you know, what is so transcend about living
in Vr merging further with the artificial?
It seems like they're trying to make reality
so uncomfortable for us,
physically and financially,
that we hurt ourselves into a deeper digital
pen where we can live as avatars of
our ideals without ever having to do the
work
You can just be a wizard or a
superhero
or a dog that gets locked on a
leash if you're into that.
And we can spend our time in very
big epic expansive
digital worlds from our studio apartment in a
dystopian smart city.
If you're seen Ready Player 1, you know
exactly what I'm talking about.
That is the trajectory, the elite h on,
and I don't really see it as agnostic.
I don't see it as transcend
because it's not breaking out and up. It's
digging down and in.
I do find it somewhat compelling when guests.
Say that the elites see themselves as the
good guys, and I don't know if that's
true. I think Bill Gates and fauci and
Klaus schwab know that their dark people with
dark agendas.
And I'll never know what's in their heads
or hearts, but just the seeking of power
and the accumulation of wealth seems to suggest
to me,
that they aren't under some illusion or assumption
that they're doing good.
But, let's just follow that train of thought
for a minute. Let's say that they do...
Some mental gymnastics
that lead them to think a global
pandemic is needed to increase global security. The
ends justify the means kind of thinking.
Well, if they have some spiritual beliefs that
are attached to that,
and they think they're being limited by a
tyra demo,
Then maybe there's a logic in there somewhere
that they feel
that reality must be pushed up against in
any and always ways possible, messing with the
genetic codes of life,
pushing to get out up into space, physically,
etcetera, etcetera,
and that goal is so important that the
fallout is worth it, Know, you gotta crack
a few eggs to make an omelet all
that.
I suppose there could be something there, but
all this comes down to how you personally
wanna frame it. A lot of it is
if this then that kind of thinking,
and agnostic is so broad that you can
make it whatever you want.
But I appreciate a rebel philosophy.
And if you take these groups back to
the context of their time, religious authorities were
basically,
the state. So
they'd look at the authority of their day
and say, you're insane you're corrupt.
And so is this being that you say
your worship being, and I'm not about that.
When we talk about some world events
mirroring
the book of revelation and the market of
the beast, and you can't have commerce without
it, and it might be the smartphone or
some kind of qr chip tattoo.
This sort of material.
Or we look at the tower of Ba
story where
people built a tower that got to the
upper, heavenly realm and God said fuck you
guys smashed it and
corrupted all the language.
Well, it seems as if
the bean that runs this physical place
is not shy about wiping it out and
killing everybody,
if it doesn't like what we're doing,
that would be the flood myth and all
that.
And then you gotta ask well is that
the right way to handle a problem.
Does handling a problem that way,
suggest a tyra
psychopathic,
insane,
custodian
or a just peaceful loving god.
Again, Miguel domain is the God above god.
We are on the same page that we
love the ultimate creator
being the good guy up there, but maybe
there's something else in between us and that
thing.
So again, yeah, it's all about framing.
And maybe this is a tale as old
as time, but should we ever take the
state at its word when telling us about
the people that it kills.
If what we know about the Seth and
the cath and the knights temp come from
the ones who murdered and tortured them,
should we assume that's bullshit?
Again, if you're conventionally religious, you might trust
the church and and you might trust their
reasoning for doing what they did.
But I'm a simple man and I say
if you're killing large numbers of people, and
Not in self defense, then there is no
good reason for that, and I apply that
logic to any situation in any time and
space.
But I thought this was a helpful interview
and talking through some of that with a
person who has really made this material a
huge part of their life.
Really, it's just talking about ideas. I think
sometimes
listeners might get way too vested and who
thinks what?
I actually heard recently that by the nature
of being a curious thinker, you're not even
gonna agree with yourself half the time or
from year to year or maybe even day
to day,
Otherwise, it kind of implies that you stop
growing and exploring new things.
I believe in that, but speaking of exploring
new stuff, while the curious conspiracy minded masses
certainly have more to chew on regarding the
Trump
assassination attempt now than they did in the
first 24 hours.
I kinda made hasty comments at the end
of the last show because I had to
say something about such a big event, but
I didn't wanna jump any conclusions or try
to make at something more than it seemed
to be.
And I probably agree with about 70 percent
of what I said then. The media has
drilled in that Trump is such an existential
threat, how could something like this not happen,
especially right in the window of time where
it starts to look pretty obvious that he's
gonna win,
I do think those who have this Trump
der arrangement syndrome bear some responsibility and it's
funny to hear them back pedal now and
say, well, I'm glad he's okay.
But he's still a threat to democracy and
if he wins then expect fascism in America
and the end of our way of life.
And honestly, I don't see how both can
be true. You're either lying about being glad
he's okay
or you're exaggerating how severe a Trump win
would be.
Personally, I think both, but you can't really
hype it up that it's gonna be anything
different than it was the first time, because
he's already been there for 4 fucking years.
So that's 1 thing, but man, tons of
new information has come out.
There's no shortage of Twitter threads.
Where people try to lay out their own
narratives, but a lot of them do circle
around some key bits of information
And I actually did put up the bat
signal to Ryan Christian,
and we're gonna do a real deep dive
on all of it and how the crowds
strike stuff might even be connect did, but
I'm gonna be out of town
in San Diego this week for a friend's
wedding and Ryan will probably be my first
guest of August
which really will give us proper time to
bring all the alternative narratives and new claims
together and summarize the bulk of it for
you guys.
I know that pretty much everybody is doing
that, but I can't think of anyone better
to be that guy for us than Ryan.
That said, now we're getting
information that the secret service team
was not just bare bones like I said
before,
But inexperienced almost intentionally.
We have to ask why Cnn and the
networks were live streaming this Trump rally when
they tend to have a blackout around that
sort of coverage.
And we have to see if this kid
checks any boxes within a typical
Mk ultra framework.
And now with the new information we've gotten
this week, I would say yes.
Given what we know about Mk ultra,
What would be the career choices of his
parents that would make you most skeptical
outside of literal positions in the government?
I would say behavioral studies and psychiatry. Well,
both of his parents check that box, big
red flag for me.
We have reports that he was walking around
for a long time, being seen by many
people, aiming his gun at a cop, acting
strangely.
Carrying a ladder a half mile in some
reports,
maybe even getting caught with a scope,
being confused,
not even being subtle
in broad daylight.
This is a person under some sort of
influence and to think,
With all these details
and looking at the layout of the scene
that he just fooled the secret service,
that's more than just a stretch.
This seems more than just creating the conditions
broadly. It seems a lot more planned and
set up.
The kids parents apparently called the cops, when
he was an hour late from coming home.
I mean, he's 20, that's weird. It's like
they knew he wasn't in a good state
of mind or that maybe some...
Fbi inspired la,
was spilling over into a real life world
event.
He also apparently had a burner phone, probably
given to him by whoever was coaching him
along,
and I'm sure that's not the phone that
they broke into and
told everybody about coaching And I can't agree
with those who think this was a setup
event by the Trump people because they already
had a great deal of momentum. There was
no reason to do this.
From that perspective and stage this. What I
see is a desperate attempt to hold power
when it seems to be slipping away.
Everyone who ever had faith in Biden is
losing it, and so something desperate was set
up and it didn't work, and now Biden
has Covid and will probably drop out. That
narrative seems pretty convincing to me.
The biggest questions left in my mind are
well. I thought the left right divide was
just political theater.
Maybe on some levels it is and on
the street level, there are some people who
really have a vested interest in their team
versus the other team.
The other question
would be well why risk it with this
mentally scrambled kid? Why leave it up to
him to complete the mission?
Well, I think the answer there is that
it looks like the old Kansas city shuffle.
Everyone looking over here at this dead kid
on the roof.
Much like with Jfk k and the Grass
K. It seems in this case, the shots
might have come from somewhere else. Some are
saying the water tower,
Some are claiming the real shooter zip lined
down from the water tower into the trees
where an Suv was waiting.
I guess that's a possibility.
But I've heard this gun that the kid
had should have made for an easy shot
within 600 yards, and he was only a
hundred and 50 yards away. And with an
iron site, which means that it seems like
the kid was never supposed to do anything,
but get shot on that roof.
But a train sniper can make shots as
far as 2000
yards away. Sometimes they say even double that.
Well, a mile is only 1760
yards.
So you're talking about a damn mile or
more possibly.
To me,
that person could have been anywhere, and you're
not gonna take a photo of the scene
that's gonna encompass the range in which that
shooter could actually have been in, and the
further away they are, the more reasonable it
is that they missed by an inch.
If that bullet photo is real, captured by
the same photographer who took the famous bush
reading to kids on 09:11 photo, by the
way, small world.
Well, the bullet doesn't look like it's coming
down from the water tower. It looks like
it's coming straight, but maybe from much further
away.
Then you got the Ace esoteric stuff, the
illuminati card game, enough is enough card that
says r snipers can get you time at
any place.
And it looks like Trump's face,
and then hulk Hogan using that exact phrase
of the Rn c in his speech before
Trump with Jason A there?
And we all remember the Vegas card and
his tattoo in the harvest festival.
So you know me? I'm not trying to
jump the gun and I try not to
get too attached to any un undo narratives,
but yes,
so much of this seems like a lot
more, I set up, and I was willing
to conclude the morning after.
Add in the Black rock commercial, the kid
was in. I mean, what is that?
But it does feel like the Mk ultra
template was just dusted off and the kid
was set up as a brain scrambled distraction.
And the trained person tasked with taken the
real shot also missed.
But with a lot of events, as I've
said, you can get really gran and try
to confirm every little detail,
but you usually
are gonna hit a dead end somewhere. You're
usually gonna have to make a few assumption
and that's also fine. But like so many
things, broadly speaking, I think we know what
we need to know about this
though it'll still be interesting to go over
in greater detail all the little details with
Ryan next week,
But a general template is
pretty well formed at this point.
And who knows what might happen in the
meantime, too? It's getting crazy out there. But
those are some additional thoughts to what I
said in the wrap up of the last
show. Though I did say maybe on several
of the things where I'm now just saying,
yeah, it does look to be that way.
As to But speaking of the last episode
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Big. Thanks to Miguel for talking to me
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