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many strange and troubling things in her sessions
for others.
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Experiences and on top of nose to the
Grinds stone historical and
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to have her here. The hidden truth reveal,
Cass
chandler and high
dimensional control matrix highlighter, Lara, welcome to Thc.
Wow.
That was amazing.
Bert It's all just part of the 9
to 5 around here, but this is a
real pleasure.
You've clearly been doing this work for a
long time, and it's rare to find someone
who I feel was getting so many things
right and usually before they were trendy. You've
been saying Ufo
are not aliens from a distant planet,
but hyper dimensional beans, and you've been saying
that since the mid nineties,
you've said the ecology community is full of
Coin intel pro shells,
religions are largely a control system for people.
A is real, and we are property and
food for predatory beans, you even called Covid,
the masks and the shots out really early.
And it is kinda hard to find people
who have been so diverse in their research,
but also seem to have nailed it in
so many different subject areas that you cover,
so kudos host to you. Thank you. I'd
like meet that person.
Well, what would you say might be some
other important areas where you feel that your
own research has broken from even the
territorial heard because I think this audience is
past the 01:01
stuff and has really heard from so many
of the figures in the space, but Where
would you say your research has broken from
that or even fills in some unique holes
that are there?
Well,
1 thing there is the experiment, which is
kinda like
inspirational.
In a way it's research itself. Because, you
know, you research into whether or not
it is possible to communicate with
higher for lack of better term
beings or entities,
and whether it's a useful activity, whether it
brings you any concrete results, that in itself
is research.
But then there is research that involves
digging into records
and, you know, pulling together as many threads
as she possibly can.
So it's really hard to say because we've
gotten some interesting things from the cass
experiment that
we're
pretty shocking at the time they came. I
I think probably 1 of the most shocking
1 was
the information they presented about what they called
organic portals, which is that, you know, 50
percent of
humanity approximately
do not have
souls.
And then, of course, that
kinda of dovetail with
other research we did into psycho
because at 1 point, the Cass
remarked that
psycho pass were just defective
organic portals. Organic portals can be salt to
the earth type people,
you know, just people who are easily led,
Bob Alt,
psychologist from Canada
would call them authoritarian followers.
And then there was another another guy who
wrote an article call endo exoskeleton and exoskeleton.
So the organic portal type would be
an individual who needs an exoskeleton because they
don't have anything
inside them that helps them stand up, so
they need something from the outside. They need
rules and regulations and laws and
somebody to guide and direct them and
not to cut you off, but today with
this digital context we all have. These are
the people that are commonly known as Npc,
with gaming terminology,
people who are just kind of empty vessels.
And that's what the seas we're talking about.
That was back in the late nineties.
So now they're calling them Mpc, but we
were calling them Op or organic portal be
happy. Be careful because when you're riding on
internet for op peak can also be an
opening post. And so people, you have to
be careful.
So that was probably 1 of the war
shock. Yeah. I've been a little time. I
had a hard time dealing with it because,
I mean, so much of what I have
learned through the experiment and through my end
research I have had
a hard time dealing with it because it's
so contrary or counter to what we're taught
or brought up to believe.
In a in a christian background you you
hear the expression know all his send and
fall short glory of God.
So that's, you know, everybody
basically
has a chance.
But apparently, that's not necessarily the case.
Anything about, you know, all these bad people,
will they're gonna go to hell. Well, if
you don't really have an ind
soul,
that, you know, survives your passing,
you're not gonna go to hell, so people
can be really evil and wicked, and they're
not gonna get their punishment on the other
side. So you, people are sitting around here.
Saying, well, you know,
Vengeance as mine say Lord. I won't do
anything. God's gonna take care of it. Well
Guess what. You know, that's probably not gonna
happen.
Right. And so you
go on from the organic portals
thing to
say that
these organic portals are being used now by
4DST
to control 3DSTS
slash 40 S t candidates through clap and
vampire functions, keeping us locked into a behavioral
pattern matching the orchestrated norm and being physically
close to us to sap our energies and
keep us from having enough escape velocity to
remove ourselves from the matrix control systems tug
via development of our magnetic centers, and this
might need some el collaboration, But it really
is a summary of the big picture in
your work, I would say, but for people
who don't know what these terms mean, explain
the term S t and S t for
them.
Plus, yes, and S t actually originated with
the raw material, which was out in record
and Mccarthy, you know, Carla,
Colonel Re and Don Elk.
They did some really, really amazing. Amazing work
because they went at it as
a controlled experiment also.
And they got back some really remarkable results.
Now I had a a lot of correspondence
with Carla,
before she passed away, and,
you know, we had
it was kinda like a little mini sister
who'd kind of thing because we were both
joining sort of the same thing.
I felt that she was
blocking a certain
and it came through in the raw material
because she was a very tender
person, you know, very very soft
inside.
And it was very difficult for her to
deal with and talk about anything that was
negative. Because it it affected her
physically.
So dealing with the negative aspects of what
was going on, you know, Ra would have
to
go through all kinds of convoluted
explanations and really bizarre sentence structures to say
things
because, you know, that was the only way
I think that they could get it past
per guard system, you know, our internal guardian
system.
But still, it was some of the most
remarkable material it was ever produced.
If you can manage to read
this convoluted
way of speaking.
So Sc ses and S t
service to self and service to others. And
we just kinda of
shortened into S t and S. So S
sds so the bad guys,
from our point of view, and S str
are the good guys. From our point of
view, but as the seas have pointed out,
it just depends on your point of view
because to
somebody on the S pathway and believe me,
it's is probably about half of all reality
and maybe even half humanity or whatever.
We are the bad guys.
And seas pointed out that roaches.
We are the bad guys. I mean, definitely.
And I mean, you're there in Tampa, and
they have some bo
in that I can tell you lot. That
was true.
Fortunately, we don't have him here.
I was so glad to get a away
from wreck just but anyway, Yeah. It depends
on your point of view. And Ross said
the all blanks neither at the darkness nor
at the light.
And this kind of flies in the face
of nearly
all the philosophical endeavors, human beings have been
making for a very long time. I mean,
even nowadays, there are
trained philosophers who
you know, argue these issues about, you know,
if there is a God, you know, this
god is all living all good. I'm omniscient,
you know,
Omni nip to son on so forth. The
amount, of course, according to the formulation.
And if he is omni initiating, and I'm
nip tenth, then he can't be all loving
because he less bad things happen to be
good People. So they get into these theo
odyssey
arguments. And, you know, because they're all
fundamentally based on the idea that it's is
a God,
It's got to be good and good is,
of course, according to their definition.
And,
you know, the thing is is that it
just doesn't seem to be necessarily so. It
seems that Cosmos is something that is far
more
Oh, shall we say,
I don't wanna call it ambiguous or arbitrary.
But in a sense, it's really grand.
That the all does blink neither at the
darkness, nor the light.
You know, it is what is.
You know, and we are here, you know,
earth of the school? And it's in us
to make our choice. You know, are we
going to follow an Sds pathway? Or are
we going to call an Seo pas? You
have to understand
what it means
to follow those pathways
because when you follow on S pathway.
And you want to go to the ultimate,
that means, you know, ultimate,
constriction, contraction,
gravitational, diminish,
you know, no love in your life, no
ability to love or be loved, whatever. Those
are the things you're giving up.
You holiday S pto pathway.
You know, you have an expansive creative
future or
orientation, but of course, it comes with a
lot of pain.
I mean, you don't love without pain.
And that's,
you know, he loves somebody and you lose
them.
You hurt,
and there's misunderstanding. You know, love comes with
pain.
So those are the 2 pathways and you
have to think about it.
When we ask to seize 1. What are
Sds or And say we serve others
by us serving others we serve ourselves.
Which is what it ends up being because
if you're in a group of people who
are all S seo, everybody is helping everybody
else, and nobody is lacking or doing without.
I mean, like a perfect relationship, you know,
whatever
I want to give to my husband is
exactly what he wants to receive and vice
versa.
Mh.
So
let's add this because I am a fan
of the
soul school philosophy. That's kind of what I've
arrived at after trying on many different hats.
And
be that as in May, even within that
una
system. We she have other layers that make
it more complex. I know we've both been
intrigued by Charles Sports quote that ultimately we
are property.
And we might amend that to say food
as well as property, but to quote your
secret history work, you've said,
in the case of the idea of man
being food for hyper dimensional beans. There is
an enormous amount of both
vertical and lateral
of all kinds, so much so that, in
fact, it's almost impossible to understand why it's
not generally known.
And I think that's really intriguing. Let's dig
into that a bit. What would you say
to people who don't see that who do
feel generally
free enough and aren't even sure there are
other entities that exist, let alone own us
or feed on us. Well, we come back
once again and that's... In a kind of
funny way it goes back to the Op
issue.
And I had a discussion with some member
of the skeptics society here or something.
Quite a few years ago and
he was arguing about,
you know, whether or not
anybody could trust
the testimony on if somebody you had had
an unusual experience that couldn't
be
seen or observed by somebody else.
And
the Finally, I said, well, if you have
never ever ever,
Even sincere
at any kind of unusual intonation or experience
or sync ethnicity or anything whatsoever,
then maybe you just don't have a soul.
And
he went,
what do you mean? I don't have a
soul? And this is a guy who's just
arguing it with me that nobody has souls
that souls don't exist.
That when you die, that shit. And now
when I tell him he found doesn't have
was stolen. That's the thing 81 more than
anything in the world.
So, you know, I think there are probably
50 percent of humanity who do not have
these experiences.
They do not have the antenna, the perceptions,
the...
Whatever it takes to see them perceive them
whatever I mean, you've heard stories. I'm sure.
Of, groups of people who had Ufo,
sighting or, you know, witness events where there
was a large group of people and say,
a percentage of the people actually saw what
was happening and then their stories, you know,
pretty much mesh. And there there were people
who saw nothing.
Experience to that's.
So I think that is part of it,
and I think that maybe there is a
good portion of people who go into
the hard sciences
as a career pass,
who,
you know, have very good, very good brains,
but they don't have much in the way
of spiritual or so capacities,
and they become very va in their assertion
that
Nothing like I had as possible. It can't
happen.
And my husband wrote a little book, it
hasn't been published yet, and he examined some
of the early experiments done by William Crooks
with Daniel Dung glass home.
And
did some
calculations and did some, you know, rebuttal and
so forth, You know, basically showing that it
was a guy who was doing real science.
And he was just
vicious flame by the scientific community of his
time.
People like Darwin who would not even attend
a spiritual sitting.
His wife was interested, but he wouldn't even
attend.
So those
experiments you just mentioned, elaborate on what those
experiments were that your husband analyzed for people
who haven't heard about them before. Well, there
were like planks of wood, and Daniel dun
home was moving these pike woods surrounded with
springs and weights and measures and
measured the amount of
pressure and
movement that was
being affected on the piece of wood
just simply by the power of his mind.
Levi limitation.
Yeah. Well, we're talking about some really simple
basic
scientific experiments that
cook setup up,
and
1 of the main arguments against it was
well, the wood absorbed moisture.
From the atlas atmosphere and it omega heavier,
and that's why it had more weight.
I mean, silly things like that.
And he broke
a paper about this and was gun on
know, publishing shit and 1, like proceedings 1
of the scientific journals of the time.
And
the reaction was just astonishing.
And then, of course, there were the scientists
who are fundamentalist christians.
Yeah. We won't get into that too much,
but organic portals. So
when I read your ride and you often
as I kinda said in that quote,
talk about how they are used by these
hyper dimensional beans as, I mean, the term
portal, it's right there. You know, they're basically
possessed
by these beans.
I don't know if this is a constant
possession or just an occasional walk in situation.
But how did organic portals come to be
on this planet? These people that are essentially
what you say the sheep
and are also sometimes used as, like, puppets
by multi dimensional beans. How do they come
to be
And how can we tell if one's currently
being used as a hu for something else?
Well surprise surprise we're probably and until we
develop Something,
and, you know, more or better, all organic
portals and probably all early humanoid type prominence
and so forth were organic portal type beings
until there was an event wherein in, you
know,
souls,
came into bodies on Earth and made some
differences on the Seas talked about this too,
you know, the so called fallen and eden.
And, you know, the fall of Luc firm
I mean, we've asked him about this. And
they said, you know, you were Luc,
the human race. You know, we are all
parts of a great
being that fragmented and fell,
and
these are located in all kinds of ancient
myths.
You know, the fragmentation of the great being
that then
becomes the souls of humanity.
The so in a sense
we can all be or choose to be
just our organic portal self.
And, you know, that's kind of a shocking
thing. You know, and people ask you know,
what if I'm an organic portal and I
say, well, you know, and you can just...
It doesn't matter. You still work on yourself
and you do the best you can because
according to some, a esoteric literature, organic portals
have the possibility
of
crystal criticizing
a sole essence. If
They are under the influence of other Seo
beings who are beneficial so them.
Yeah. It gets really weird
because you start to think about
Well, I am a vessel for a spirit,
but it's my spirit. You know, we all
know we're not our bodies inherently. So
You start to think, well, this one's my
spirit. But what if there's other people out
there where it's not their spirit in their
body
and
It really is just a matter of perspective
I suppose at a certain point. It gets
a little hairy with that stuff. But... Hey
there are people who are bus loads with
nobody driving.
Yeah. I know a few of them. I
know a few of them. And I like
that you've used this term hyper dimensional. For
so long because it's becoming trendy again as
people try to find the nuance in
and
terms like multi dimensional or popular or maybe
demons and angels are actually the aliens. So
you've been using this hyper dimensional term for
so long,
I am curious because you do talk about
how the elites, the ruling class tends to
be in service to these
entities,
Do you think secret societies or cult
in the past or present have found ways
to break into these hyper dimensional realms that
are typically not
accessible to us. It's usually these beans acting
on our
dimension from this place.
Can we go there? Have the elite out
a way to crack into their world.
I think they found a way
to
call on them and
bring them
into their
reality
and become their servants,
but
I
very seriously
doubt
that any
a human being has
no matter how great in the cult they
are that has been able to crack into
the hyper dimensional realities and, you know, kick
button take names in any significant way.
So
I mean, I've seen so many stories of
these cult and they go Gun H gun
h,
and
they're like,
cheating stars.
You know, they're flashy. They're bright and then
boom.
They're out.
Yeah. It makes me curious because I think
about how so much of free Masonry is
about
numbers and angles, and then you go into
the occult stuff, and it's like, hey, you
draw this
A certain way and a being will come
through, like you can make portals using certain
geo,
and
it's only a couple degrees away from saying,
well, maybe
we can use that doorway the other direction
and we can access hidden places if you
look at some of the free masonic symbolism,
there's a lot of these 2 pillars with
the sun in the moon and then a
ladder,
to a window in the sky, which has
always been suggested to me of a hidden
realm, a hidden place that maybe they can
access either of just a conscious
projection
without taking the physical body or maybe there's
a technological way to do it, but it
gets curious in those kind of areas.
I've known a few of these, the cult
personally.
And
most of what I've been able to observe
is
there's like a lack of real maturity
in them. They're like children and they want
to play and
they approach this whole thing is so it's
a game.
Although he can get very serious. I mean,
1 of them was talking about, you know,
using his
ceremonial knife and it, either, a circle in
this pent and
being naked and all this kind of stuff
and and the way you're just talking to
me seriously, and I was spending a a
hard time not to laugh at the whole
image of what was presenting. I think an
adult person in this day in age, it's
gonna draw a circle on the ground and
waving life around and dance and chant words.
And and, yes, it may work.
That's the awful thing. It may work, but
the thing is is everyone I've ever read
about when it works,
they become the slave.
Of that which they invite into their reality.
I've never seen it otherwise.
Yeah. Not so good. Be careful what you
wish for.
And another subject that you write about differently
than a lot of others is mega sites
and stones on the earth grid. So many
people
romanticized these as
Parts of leftover
technology from some great age, but you talk
about them as technology,
that might be part of a control system
designed to strengthen
the prison.
And these days when people talk about meditating
or
visualization on these grids.
They're usually trying to elevate
the
positive vibes of the planet. This new Kind
stuff that you've been so critical up. But
you say, what if maybe
this practice in this
they were encouraged to do
actually
uses us as batteries to strengthen
this network or keep it in place.
That's an interesting perspective, very unique. Well well,
also keep in mind to try to separate
mega
from this, the so called sacred geometry.
Now the sacred geometry folks have,
you know, kind of tried to incorporate mega
into their system,
but I'm not sure that they should necessarily
be the same because I have some ideas
about mega societies that are
a little different
than that, and
At the same time, there are uses
of mega structures
placed around the globe
that can definitely very definitely be used in
a negative way.
Talking to the seeds about it, we ask
about it. And they said,
Well, you know, if somebody builds something and
then moves out,
and somebody moves in and uses it for
a different purpose,
which means that the original mega structures could
have been very beneficial.
And then
something else, somebody else or some other system,
moved in and took them over and use
them in a negative way.
And that kinda of think you'd almost have
to sit down and evaluate every single situation
whatsoever
in order to try to come to some
kind inclusion about what you think of any
given place and given whatever,
but it needs to be kept in mind
before people start mindless going around doing stuff.
You know, because most of the time,
if it's really popular. If it's allowed
to become popular.
Then it's probably not good for you.
Yeah. You know, you're saying that reminds me
of a quote that I had copied So
I've read your books in the past and
heard interviews, and I digested probably
10 hours of audio material from you and
read several books getting ready for this. So
it's almost like my notes are so
full of stuff that they're kind of useless
because I can't go through them quickly, but
As I stalled, here's what I was looking
for that relates to what you just said,
but you were talking about
abduction, and you said
Let me make it clear that I'm in
no way suggesting that
abduction or some whacked out satanic rituals do
not ever take place. Somewhere under some circumstances,
but I am suggesting
that the gray alien and satanic ritual abuse
phenomenon
Most certainly have not been
restricted in any way by C intel pro,
and that's a clue that they may indeed
be the smoke and mirrors that hides
a far more insidious state of affairs, just
like what you're saying. If it's allowed to
be talked about and gain traction
then we might wanna think about how true
it is because the real truth, the real
secrets, they can keep those.
But what are you getting at there that
abduction and satanic ritual abuse
might be smoke mirrors that hide something even
more insidious. I mean, because that stuff's pretty
insidious on its own. Well,
you know, if you're a food source,
that's
pretty much worse than just being abducted are
just being ritual abused.
In the more
mild sense. Now they're satanic ritual abuse that
goes to a level
that is about as bad as it can
possibly get and probably represents almost exactly in
an a am type image
what goes on in an alien reality, you
know, consumption of body parts even I mean,
think about
human mutilation. I mean,
The thing is it's this control system
that appears to be
in charge of our planet, and we can
pretty much tell that it's not a very
nice 1 because look at the state of
the planet. Look at the freaking state of
the planet right now.
And it's so insidious and is so evil
and so vile. And yet we,
like good cattle in the pasture year, munch
grass
and sniffing butter cups and having our little
baby calves and n them and enjoying the
sunshine and everything, you know, we're living our
lives.
Thinking that everything is always gonna be that
way and until the time comes if they
send you a ramp onto the back of
the chuck.
And, but
it only happens to certain ones.
But in another sense, for emotional food, and
emotional energy
and sucking the energy of people suffering,
that is on an ongoing basis.
Yeah. That's true.
And
when it comes to consumption, obviously, drain chrome
has gained popularity
and the alternative world, people
looking at the prospect of really dark stuff,
human trafficking
and
even breeding children for the purpose of draining
them of this ad,
this chemical that our bodies make in heightened
states of emotion and trauma that is then
extracted at those moments.
Obviously, this is some of the darkest stuff.
You're talking about the most vulnerable people
being used
as a product for the elite and traumatized
in terrible ways.
What do you know about that that other
people like me can't get from just reading
books. I mean, because you have sources and
insider information to a degree that a lot
of us don't have access to,
can you tell about that reality?
Well,
it was so horrific when I was looking
into it Oh, 20 years ago. I was
looking getting into this stuff over 20 years
ago.
You on, I would talk about it a
little bit. Once in a while here and
there, but people didn't wanna hear that.
Nowadays,
it's actually
gotten to the point where
the world's elite are
allowing
people to see
because
I don't think that...
Well, it is possible that there are leaks
in their accidents and so forth. I mean,
look at the Pad.
Material
where him and hillary and the gang or,
you know, they're talking about
the stuff they do
hot dogs and pizzas.
And the artist what's name Marina
Ab bra vic. Yeah.
There is stuff now.
That is out there in the public realm.
It may not be being talked about by
the mainstream media, but then we're not surprised
by that.
But it's out there and 25 years ago,
the only way you would get insight into
this was if somebody escaped from it,
and started talking about it, but then, of
course, everybody thought they were crazy.
You know, they've got to be crazy but
then there was enough of them and they
were giving certain information,
and I read through this material, and, of
course, asked the cease about these kinds of
things.
And they pretty much
confirmed
a lot of it and pointed out that
some other parts of it, you know, might
be a little bit of hyper,
but it's so awful,
and nobody wants to go there.
And nowadays is getting to wear a few
more people are going there because the whole,
the
trafficking of children,
sex trafficking of women,
The exposure of the elite, the Epstein situation
and John Pod, Hillary Clinton and
Bill Clinton and in Obama even,
and now Candace owens going after
B My.
These kinds of things
are coming out
little by little
to the point where
anybody with a few fire neurons can do
just a little modest research and realize that
there is a whole thing going on it
there, but I'll tell you this.
This a typical reaction.
There was this young gal, and she'd been,
you know, abducted. She was...
H knows as client.
Put her under hip says, you know, go
into the, a whole abduction scenario,
and
she's being taken by this friendly little gray
alien out her bedroom window to the Ufo
that's hovering over the backyard, Everything is all
nice and sweet and peaceful,
like the gray type
abduction.
And,
you know, I have these little techniques and
1 of them is where I have the
person
see event occurring on, like a television screen.
They have a remote control.
And the remote control gives them certain. They
can fast forward. They can rewind, they can,
you know, stop the action, you know, freeze
it.
And then they can also
split the screen so that what it shows
the real dynamics of what's happening
behind
the screen memory.
We got to the point rochelle, you know,
Said, okay. Split the screen and what do
you see and she just turned into a
b screaming writing
mess right there on the sofa.
And she was finally able calm down. You
know, I took her out. I know it,
you know, Tell me what about. This... And
it was kinda like a jab of the
hut type thing
that had tentacles that were
penetrating
children,
vaginal or anal
and drawing energy out of them.
And they were writ and crying and carrying
on. I mean, it was like a really,
really horrible
scenario. I mean, the way she could possibly
imagine.
And then afterwards when I brought her out,
she was so angry with me because I
busted her bubble.
She wanted to be special. She was being
abducted by gray aliens because she was special
and they were so nice at to her
and when they put her back in her
bed, they pulled covers them.
Yeah. Gray is a great term. I really
like that. And there's just all these little
threads that I've heard you right and talk
about that
I've never heard before. 1 time, I heard
you mention that
back when you still lived in Tampa, and
you were engaged with the Ufo community there
was a guy involved there who said,
that he had been killed in Vietnam and
then brought back and had
2 hearts and black blood and this sort
of stuff, but you've elaborated on the prospect
of
re
bodies and war
And no 1 would ever know. If the
technology is there if these beans can do
such a thing, you just go out to
the battlefield and you pick some vessels that
aren't too beaten up.
And you re them, and it seems like
this is something that you do think is
possible, and maybe this guy was telling the
truth. Yeah. His name was Eddie Page. And
I think you can probably do some research
time. You may find him. It turned out
that his story
There were a lot of doubt. And, of
course, he used
his
notoriety
in a very negative way. You know, it
was you know, getting women abandoned his wife
and children,
a lot of really
unpleasant things so that it didn't
seem like he was really
and you wonder about people like that, you
know, if maybe something really did happen to
them,
and then they are driven to behave this
way so that people stop believing what they're
saying
because they show themselves to be, you know,
person of global moral world character.
Which is, you know, basically what happened and
it's happened with a lot of people,
but
we didn't
explore that
idea, and interestingly, the idea that wars are
used to repo or, get more workers or
whatever or
for underground
installations.
And also
not just that, but they can also re
somebody
do some adjustments in their faking or even
put a different soul in them or whatever,
send them back home as a, you know,
somebody could survive,
and then they're there as a sleeper just
waiting to be
activated at some point later in time. Head
in some cases,
Sometimes you wonder about people who been to
war and then they come back and then
they go ballistic and they, you know, shoot
up their family or whatever.
But in general, guys who've been battle have
been in in wartime situations are very, very
much to be subsidized with because, you know,
that's a That's a brutal awakening to our
reality and they come back and they don't
get kinda help they need.
They should never go in the first place.
They should not be exposed to their shit
in the first place. Right. I agree. And
it seems like we're entering in an era
where we're all about to learn that lesson
in the hard way. Once again. And sometimes
I think about this stuff with re animating
and trafficking,
like, we'll have a lot of rituals satanic
abuse survivors that are out there telling their
story or women who say they were on
Epstein Island and they got off.
And now they're talking about the people that
they were abused by in high society.
And I just wonder sometimes, I mean, if
these people have such absolute control. How does
anyone ever get off the island? Why don't
you just kill these
Kids. If you're using them as kids sexually
and then they turn 18 and they're no
longer useful. You just kill them. I mean,
it seems pretty easy. Re bodies,
On a battlefield
could be useful because it's easier to coop
a complete body than to make a new
1 from scratch, but Sometimes trafficking and it's
like that exposes you when really,
you could just have networks
of enslaved women,
giving birth
underground and you have your own feeder system,
I mean, it's quite a dark way to
think about it, but it's like if they
have absolute control.
And they want
bodies for slaves or food or whatever.
Epstein did talk about the prospect of wanting
on his ranch to have a bunch of
women to and pregnant a bunch of women
and then have them just
churn out his children. I mean, this is
just 1 guy, but I would imagine there's
some systems out there where that is happening
that they're just en the women and using
them as breeder
chained to a bed,
And then they have kids who have no
advocates in the world at all.
No 1 even knows exist. They have no
social security number. No one's ever gonna find
them and now you're kind of completely outside
the system with people that you just
bread.
Yeah. And I think it probably happens and
it is happening.
The only thing is is that
When you start getting into the hyper dimensional
aspect of it,
I think that's with a glitch for our
reality
comes from.
Because, you know, it's like,
you know, Rob talked about this and the
Seas talked about this about
free will being
probably,
you know, the most important law and all
of creation.
And if you
enslave a society,
without
letting them know
that they are in the process of being
enslaved and having them accept willing.
You have made a violation kinda like violating
gravity
in our realm.
If you
jump off a building
and think you can fly, you know, gravity
is gonna straighten you out really fast. And
I think if you try to take over
a whole population without
giving them warning without giving them some element
of choice
it's kinda like jumping off a building. You
know, you lose
polarity. You are d go.
I think that there are penalties there are
things that happen as the natural course events
in the hyper dimensional realms,
which is what
causes
this element of uncertainty
of ambiguity in our reality so that things
do leak out.
People do escape and warn us. You know,
there are can in the mind all over
the place. We are given the opportunity to
choose
1 way or the other,
and that's part of the whole
setup, I think. And
that's the only reason I can see for
that
being the way it is, and, of course,
it was more or less confirmed by ra,
and, you know, by the sea and then,
of course, if you think about it from
a point of view.
Because
if you get something
and you don't have to work for it.
It's not very tasty.
Those negative dudes they'd like to stop and
they like to get you wearing you out,
tying out, but they want you to it
out.
Because it's a part of their ego and
that's part of the S reality these these
incredible egos. They want you to know how
bad they are. What they're going to do
to you and how they're going to munch
you up.
And then you're going to see? Yes.
Anyway,
Yeah. No. That is a great
response that does make a lot of sense
that there's higher order laws
and forces in reality that make it so
that you do have to get people to
accept their enslave. That's
probably true. Now,
you've just written about so many things
So far, we've really been talking big picture
stuff, but there's also a lot of little
things like mysterious artifacts and underground
remnants of a civilization and malta and the
k r's and all sorts of more
concentrated
pockets of mystery we could say?
What do you consider some of your favorites?
The under explored threads that still intriguing you
most?
Oh, dear.
There's not much that I haven't explored.
And, you know, it's funny because all of
those different things are all pieces of the
puzzle
that
reveal. I mean, if they're looked at properly,
they reveal the hyper dimensional realm. They reveal
that there is a lot more
to our world than we are immediately aware
of when we look out the window and
see the cars passing and know, whatever.
Ancient
civilizations are
obviously a favorite,
mega cultures are a big favorite.
What about something like this? So it's stuck
out to me when I was going through
your work that you referenced
Linda Mu howell, and this documentary of hers
antarctica, Alien secrets beneath the ice from 2019,
and you say she interviewed an ex navy
seal who claimed to have entered an ancient
octagon base made of Blacks stone, which extended
deep underground in 2003.
The door to the base was ins with
the black sun symbol, the walls with
unrecognizable hi gl.
The large empty inner chambers were lit in
green light that seemed to ema from nowhere
and the temperature inside was a constant 70
degrees fahrenheit.
I mean, whoa. Those are those little things
that really intrigued me
I don't know if you know much about
this except from the documentary, but what do
you think's going on in antarctica. It seems
to be like a hotbed of mystery?
Well, the seeds have said there are things
going on an antarctica for a long time
and, you know, I've been really skeptical about
it.
Yeah. Because it's probably
unusual
to find somebody who does an experiment like
the seas.
And gets these various answers and so forth,
but then the person he's doing is skeptical
of it. But, you know, I'm pretty skeptical
of some of this stuff.
And I and I have to really work
hard and research things before I decide all,
okay. Maybe that makes some sense.
So this article saying has been something I
have been really skeptical about. But you know,
they said that
the Germans
what, you know, some Germans
who were part of like, the tu society
who were in touch with
negative
beings,
were
allowed to or taken to or went to
an underground base in antarctica.
And then this whole linda and how thing,
you know, kinda gives a little bit of
confirmation into that.
And
There it is. That's out there, and it's
like everything else, You know, 25 years ago,
you were just having, you know, some crazy
people coming out talking about
satanic ritual abuse, and now it's in your
face
via the media. So is this another 1
of those things that it's just
little pockets of
information coming through here and there,
and then all of a sudden, Sunday, you
know, it'll be in our face.
We'll know more about it.
Yeah, it is hard to know, but it
seems like there is a narrative that makes
a little bit of sense that
nazis when their whole operation got so big
that it just had to be dismantled. Some
of them
escaped or just retreated back to Chile and
then antarctica and they have space in New
Schwab and lin, and then they sent Admiral
bird to check it out, and he was
chased off and was like, yeah, We can't
beat these guys.
And then you have stories like being taken
down to a base like this. There's a
lot of major political figures
and astronauts like Neil Armstrong who just randomly
took these trips these expeditions to see something
down in antarctica, and then we have the
19 52
Flying sauce fly over of the White House
and it's like, well, why would aliens or
some kind of bizarre multi dimensional creature care
about the White House?
And the case has been made that that
was a show of power from these escape
nazis are like, look. We got these crafts,
you can't touch us We're flying over the
White House.
Fuck you, you know, don't come down here
anymore, or you're gonna
be entering a world of pain. Maybe it
was symbolic taking over of the Us during
the Us into what the Seas called, the
S sds capital of the world.
And
there was something else I was gonna say,
and then I got kinda of
what you were saying was entertaining.
But
Oh, yeah.
We once
talked about the whole nazi thing, you know,
and for me, that was a burning issue.
Hen pointed out that the Nazi experience
of World war 2
was a trial run for what was going
to be coming
to our world in the future
to the time at which I was asking
this question with just over 20 years ago.
It was in 19 96.
Here, you know, my husband came.
And
they told us, you know, that it was
a trial run, and they've told us some
of the things. And, of course, what we're
seeing now is the
manifestation of that
prediction, you know, and I don't know if
you really call it a prediction if an
entity.
At some level, can see, you know, what
other people's plans are, what they're gonna do
and so on and so forth well, it's
really a prediction. It's basically telling you what's
gonna happen?
So, yeah, we are now
in a nazi takeover
of the world,
the world.
I mean, it's almost like global,
and it's bizarre is all get out
and the craziest thing about it is is
the fact that
You know, and I asked what was the
deal about the master race and the c's
were really cage with me about that. And
we went back and forth on the whole
master racing.
And it took me a while to figured
it out, and I figured out and I
realized that
the Germans thought that they
were creating the master race
as germans,
but it wasn't necessarily so they were being
used.
To create the situation
where
the master race
that the S sds beings wanted created
could then grow and develop.
That is really interesting because obvious, in conspiracy
land everybody's always trying to figure out who
is the highest level
human controllers on the big pyramid.
Is it the Jews? Is it the free
Mason, the j, the Nazis,
and we go round and round and
sometimes I'm thinking that it's really just as
arbitrary is left versus right Democrat Republican that
at the top, like,
They're not truly competing like you would think
regular people would compete because they know they've
got the rest of the world.
On lock. But now this is bubbling up.
People seeing the Israeli
situation and how all the American
politicians are just bending over and saying, they
can do whatever they want And it's like,
well, wait a minute. Who really controls this
place?
You know? And so then they start thinking
well, I guess, the Jews are the Apex?
And you go back to World War 2
and it's like, well, the Rockefeller
and some of the real money people are
funding both sides.
And the Roth child are supposed to be
Jewish. Well, why were they funding the nazis.
So it gets really tangled up, and I
don't know if we should really ever be
looking for 1
ethnic group to be the apex, but I'm...
I mean, people make their case and I'm
like, yeah, that's true and
And there's this other thing too. So, like,
I kinda think it's alt. I listen to
all cases
and just say, yeah, you're probably right. J,
huge power center, Free mason huge power center,
Ka banking Jewish families. Yeah, Also up there.
Nazis 2, like, I don't know if we
should really
try to rank them.
Maybe at the top level, there our members
from each.
Exactly.
It's not really worth ranking them
in terms of their power. And it shifts.
I mean, for example,
This was something that Glenn Green,
and a recent interview with Tucker Cross and
he talked about, you know, the way
The left used to be this and this
and this, and then now they're completely you
know, what they were not before and then
the right used to be this and this
and this.
And now you look at the left,
supporting the Palestinians,
which, you know, any rational person would do,
but nearly everything else left does is rep
and despicable.
I any you look at the right, which
is
supporting Israel, which is completely under the circumstances
at the moment.
Despicable. But then they want, you know, free
speech and they want
family values, etcetera, etcetera. So they've got all
of these positives
points on them. So it's like they mix
things up and they can confuse them. And
the season even said that. They said, you
know, that they shift and change,
you know, just to confuse people, to keep
people off ballast and off filter and that's
exactly what they're doing, and that's what happens
with the
apex of this so called pyramid.
The Russians back when they were under the
old Soviet thing. They were, you know, less
people were happy.
So, obviously, it wasn't a very good system.
And rightfully, you know, we didn't want to
have that kind of system in our country.
And yet now, it's coming to our country
and Russia seems to be like a Bastion
of family values and freedom and rule of
law,
you know, not
rules based order.
Yeah.
Different eras, things change. It's a shell game.
It is a shell game. Yeah. I agree
with that.
And
you know, as we're getting done with this
first hour here, you're really good at bucking
trends, you wrote a book about cyclical cataclysm
and
all this sorts of apocalypse stuff in 20
12 when everybody was all locks up about
what was gonna happen. You're like, Don't know
if it's gonna play out that way.
And that was a bold stance at the
time because it's easier to just go with
the trend and sell books and do
interviews and be on the conference circuit.
Well, what about now? I mean, we have,
obviously,
you would say multiple powder c that look
to be things that could really boil over
anytime the Saudi just
ended the 50 year
pet dollar agreement, that seems
probably worth thinking about? And then we have
the wars? Like, what do you see coming
to pass in the next
couple of decades? What's the next chapter of
the human story on this plane look like
to you for Americans or anyone?
I'm not just sure we now a couple
of decades at this point.
Yikes.
Things are extremely volatile.
Goodness patient,
and he's measured and he's controlled, but
he's not stupid,
and he's not a coward,
and
the
zion neo cons that are controlling
the Us government and make no mistake about
it is zion, neo cons.
They're blind. There's so many that are the
psychopathic
and psycho
have it and capacity
to conceive of
realistic
consequences.
You know, they're saying we create our reality,
you know, and you have to watch and
and you watch what we create.
And the Hub is just
unbelievable. So they are pushing
everything that's going on. They're pushing this whole
you create thing. They're allowing the the whole
zion
destruction of Palestine, which is a criminal act.
I mean, they went in there and stole
the land from those people had been there
for a thousand years or more.
You know, and now they're ex them,
it's actually worse
than the
holocaust cost,
and I'm not gonna be 1 of those
people who says there was no low cost
because from my point of view there obviously
was
something definitely like, oh. But, you know, I
always measure, you know, 6000000 Jews against the
27000000
russians.
And I'm saying, you know,
what was the real holocaust here?
The
And, of course,
something else may
enter intervene.
I mean, the weather is not looking very
friendly right now, and I've been predicting an
ice age for a number of years, the
disease have been predicting l age.
And they've even said that when it starts
to happen, it can happen very, very fast.
And meanwhile, these idiots out there?
Now do they know that there's a possibility
of an ice age and they're trying to
help it along and that's why, you know,
Bill gates wants to shade us from the
sun?
Or are they really that stupid? And sometimes
I think they're really that stupid?
Because they have to understand that whatever they're
doing,
whatever kind of world they're creating.
They are going to die
eventually.
Some sooner than later.
Unless they think that the 4 density beans
that they take their orders from are going
somehow
bring them up to their level or something.
Maybe they have promised them something, but the
thing is, all things being equal, they're gonna
die and their children are gonna inherit the
world that they leave.
And if they make things so difficult
that it's basically
a few steps away from a stone age
existence,
money isn't got a amount to anything.
And their children may be left billions of
dollars, but their billions won't wisdom any good.
And they will become targets of
whoever's is left that have become
tribes that are looking for revenge. You know,
I can see some really ugly scenarios. Playing
out from this business.
So if we're gonna have an ice age
or if we're gonna have some serious global
cooling and it's looking like it,
or if we're going to have
some kind of commentary
bombardment scenario, which is another thing the seeds
have been predicting.
You know, some things might intervene to completely
spoil all of their plans altogether.
A few good
commentary bodies or fragments, you know, exploding in
the atmosphere over the year of some em
impulses
and all our technology has gone. Boom dead
gone.
You know, Fries everything.
And when I'm having this interview with Jay
Campbell. I don't know if you noticed on
interview 5,
he asked me a similar question, and then
I was talking about, you know, possibilities
between
nuclear war or
commentary
bombardment and right at that moment, there was
this huge explosion.
Yeah.
He felt like it was a shotgun
or something that went off. Well, Hunter said
it sounded like a shotgun because he was
hearing at some different, but I was sitting
here.
And
I could feel the blast
even though the window is shut in this
double pane, you know, heavy duty double pane
window.
We asked the seas bad and they said
it was confirmation.
Then they're happening a lot all over the
planet anyway. People are hearing these strange explosions
and
the increasing number of fireball
activity
and Victor K, of course has predicted that
we are
in
a period of extreme firewall
commentary flux.
So we are in a very dangerous period
now. We have been for some years.
And that's what I said. I said 6
of 1 half a dozen of the other
and in as fred happened.
So I will say that to you. It's
6 1 half dozen the other. We're gonna
have nuclear war,
or we're gonna have commentary bombard. When it
rains at pours.
I don't think we have a couple of
decades, maybe not,
sadly.
I mean, think about it.
The way it is right now.
How long do you think
people can stand to this?
Well, it's hard to say. I guess, it
depends on
where your focus is because I think there's
a counter argument that for a lot of
people if they're distancing themselves from media,
and the Internet, and they're living in a
place that maybe isn't
super vulnerable, Like, there's gonna be some belts
where
it is habitable,
even if large areas aren't anymore,
There's people who are trying to do, like,
a more
independent, off grid, self sustainable sort of thing.
And I think they have the right idea
and they're Probably will be some pockets that
are okay. 1 thing I always took from
Graham Hancock as he talks about, like, major
cataclysm and
says, you know, the people who are going
to see it as
the big apocalypse are us, You know, the
ones in modern society, but there's a lot
of people living within nature and indigenous contexts
that are just gonna be like, well, nothing's
changed in my world. Yeah. It's a little
colder, but I know how to survive out
here, you don't.
And I think that, you know, there might
be some truth to that. Like, when
Existed, there probably still were indigenous people that
didn't even care that it fell.
Exactly. But what's you're talking about here is
pockets.
While,
something else much larger is happening,
you know, above and around
these pockets.
And that's really what we're looking at because
we're talking about the majority of humanity is
not gonna go and they lost the grid.
Right? But I'm trying to find that pocket.
I'm trying to get in that pocket and
wrap myself up, nice and cozy.
Well, I know and I think
I felt more that way 25, 30 years
ago,
but now I'm 72 years old.
You know, And when you're 72 years old
like being 9 months pregnant, you know, when
you're 9 months pregnant, you're more sick of
being pregnant than you are scared of having
baby.
When you said at 2 years old, you're
more sick of living than you are scared
of dying.
I get that. I get that. So this
is a good 1 to end on. But
in terms of freeing us
or solving our
initial plate that we talked about bean property
bean food.
You write the way back to the activation
of the Dna
necessary to attain the contact with the higher
centers,
is not through genetic
manipulation, which is seen the question through the
lens of matrix
influences.
The way back is through the ancient spiritual
science the real work of the a,
which through the heating of the crux,
the neo,
rewrite the brain,
so that the ancient and broken connection with
the higher centers can be reestablish.
Seems like a good way to go out,
but help people understand what you're saying here.
Well, here, we're talking about what we call
the work,
because it is work.
And sometimes it's very hard work. And
it has to do with
being able to train yourself to see the
unseen reality, and that comes from
sometimes from a lot of discussion and talking.
I mean, it could be something as simple
as saying, well,
These various things happen to me in the
last few days, and it's like my reality
is trying to get my attention. You know,
what do I need to look at in
myself?
There's a lot of material about the work
and the
no
series
by boris Mu.
Gru was on to some of it, you
know, we love Ge, but Ge didn't have
the whole banana.
And we like cast tomatoes, a lot of
material. He... You know, I I think he
was kinda doing a r on.
But we have collected together of various
ways and means, and it comes down to
working with your emotions and your brain, you
know, being able to
think
properly with your brain to free yourself from
influences
of your upbringing, your society, your religion your
school, whatever,
being able to deal with your emotions with
your brain because emotions,
should not run your brain. You shouldn't think
with your emotions, but most people do you
think with their emotions, and we try to
learn you separate that out.
Where the emotions where you could feel the
emotions and you could still think clearly with
your brain while your emotions are roi along
inside,
it's a pretty complicated process, but, you know,
that's the easiest way to
talk about it is to talk about it
in terms of the work and
we use various methods, and we do it,
you know, basically, we do it on our
forum. I mean, we do it in a
more concentrated way.
During in person
workshops and
retreats and so forth, you know, we have
a constant flow of group members that, you
know, common.
We work with them.
But mostly, we do the introductory type work,
you know, right there on the forum.
Where people come in and they start to
talk about their problems and we try to
help them to separate their emotions from their
thoughts
and to get rid of their programming.
Some of the worst programming, and I'll tell
you right a upfront. It's the b nice
program.
You know, we're conditioned to be nice since
they're not saying no going to be in
a run over and to be used and
manipulate so forth then and helping people to
get over the B Ice program is probably
really, really hard.
Is probably 1 of the hardest things that
they ever do, but it's doing those kinds
of things. That gets them into a state.
Where they begin to see the unseen on
their own.
They can begin to see when the universe
is interacting with them in a dance
rather than against them.
And the caesar said, it's not
where you are
with counts.
It's though you are and what you see.
So we figured if we can get enough
people just into that state where they are
cleared of being run by their emotions, and
it's not easy
If you can get, you know, 200 people
into that state, then they can actually act
together if we do,
some other activities we get together and we
do some
meditation together. We do some remote viewing, experiment
type things. We do some
hyper dimensional
visualizations and
various like. We do that all by Skype
or zoom or whatever it is, you know,
sometimes they have couple hundred people
at the same time, all over the world
at the same time meditating on the same
thing together.
And if you get people that are in
this
more clear state where they're emotions,
are under control and their
brains are functional without being drowned getting their
emotions.
And they have worked on getting themselves into
a fairly healthy state, and they don't eat
trash and garbage and
There's many parameters.
Yeah. I would think so, but man.
My mind is blown. I'm sure I'm not
alone. We covered a ton of ground. We
fit pretty much everything on my weird little
outline here from digesting your work. I think
it's really great, big picture stuff, small,
little,
threads, micro,
macro,
what would you like to leave people with?
That was a little bit of a preview
of some of your activities and the forum,
but tell them about the books, the subs
stack, any upcoming work they might want to
know about ways to engage that sort of
thing.
Well, the best way to engage just to
enjoy the form, but don't expect it to
be like any form you've ever been on.
You know, we have some rules
You know, and we have the form for
reason. It's for doing the work. I mean,
yes, we discuss literally everything under the sun.
But there are some
limitations. I don't let Light magicians come on
my form and propagate their philosophies.
But joining our forum is 1 thing and
then after people have been on the forum
for a while, you know, we have an
organization, they can join the organization, they can
get says to
our private forum where we coordinate activities between
members and ourselves and
do a number of things that, you know,
I don't really talk about it It's on
a private form for reason. Sure.
That's probably the main thing to do reading
the books of accord, reading the wave is
the first thing to do.
You don't have to reach secret history or
all the other things, but the wave is
about
exposing
the high initial reality.
The other books are about particular research interest
and scenarios that I've gotten into and their
corolla
to
the things that the seeds have talked about.
But if you want to just
some get into the whole thing about the
hyper dimensional reality, how we're are embedded in
it, then the wave and which you need
to need. Heck yeah. 8 books now.
Yeah. And my last book was from Paul
to mark, which was
exposing who Jesus really was.
A whole another rabbit hole, and I guess
we'll leave it at that. And
thank you so much for your time and
for
Go into all these weird places with me.
It's been a lot of fun, Keep up
the great work and take care out there.
Well, I thank you very much for... Having
me and it was really good because you're
you're good. You're prepared. She
having
G's indeed people, g's indeed, solid stuff from
Lara Knight Ja.
She's been in the game a long time.
And I'm glad she was willing to do
this. She's got so much material that I
couldn't squeeze in every thing. But I think
we focused on the stuff that is most
compelling,
most unique and most far out
as is our special thing see. And the
term Gray is a great way to describe
the... It's all love and light Stephen Greer
types.
Obviously, when she says the seas she's referring
to the Cas.
Though as we said early on in the
channel when she asked them who they were,
They told her, we are you from the
future. So who the hell knows what's really
going on, but I like that Lara doesn't
rely on the channel alone. She's actually a
great researcher in her own right, and then
she just asks the seas their thoughts on
things.
And then adds it to her work as
another layer of analysis.
Kinda like books c written by
2 different people with their own takes.
But I like how early she was with
some of her nuanced views even when they
weren't trendy, You gotta respect that.
So often the term G is levi at
people in this space, and to me a
G,
is someone who hops from 1 trendy position
to another. They don't challenge the dominant perspectives
in the space.
So I like her and we covered a
ton of different things. I think the organic
portals thing is pretty interesting, very much like
Npc as I mentioned,
but we really don't know anything about the
world except how we feel about our selves
in our own consciousness and body, and then
we just assume that others feel the same.
But there could be plenty of empty vessels
out there, plenty of human husks for spirits
to be walking around in, and we would
have no idea.
Now I'm starting to sound like I'm describing
the plot of men in black but it's
an interesting thing to think about
as is humans as an energetic food source
and to what degree the human elite are
just managing the farm you know, I like
that kind of far up material,
as well as hearing about some more obscure
researchers that I don't hear that much about.
But with the second hour we got into
a lot more.
The power and qualities of the moon's light,
stone technology,
Lara favorite 40 stories, spontaneous human combustion,
homo pho, and sonic elements of fourth dimensional
events, time travel through caves,
Window followers encrypted and Covid va as a
mass abduction in a way.
And I do love the term window followers.
She has a
on Crypt very similar to a apache Harper,
and she calls them basically beans that fell
out of this quote unquote window.
Although I think that's the seized term, either
way,
I like it. And if you don't know
already, I can do a lot more when
I have 2 hours with a guest as
opposed to just 1. So if you like
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And that said, in world news, how can
I go much longer without mentioning that assassination
attempt last night?
Obviously, this is all anyone's gonna be talking
about, and I just wanna relay a few
observations.
It was super interesting to see the initial
media headlines trying to obscure the situation with
words like apparent gunshots heard at rally or
my favorite from
Usa today.
Trump removed from stage by secret service after
loud noises startled Trump and crowd.
I mean, what a way to say it.
The bias in those headlines is just so
transparent, loud noises,
startled,
I guess just loud noises cause bullet holes
in the ear and dead bystanders.
But I saw a lot of that right
away. Even in my high school buddy's group
chat, the liberal ones were like, that sounded
like a baby gun, and this was probably
planned by Trump himself. And I just laugh.
It's silly the way everyone quickly tries to
fit the event into a context that they
prefer that supports the red or blue team
they're on.
And I also got a kick out of
how a couple of these guys have never
believed a conspiracy in their life, taking almost
everything at bay value until they're confronted with
something like this.
And look, I don't know what happened. I
don't assume to know. I'm just watching and
listening to all reactions I come across and
those subtle language tricks by the mainstream media
are clearly manipulative.
What else is manipulative is telling every liberal
person that it's going to be the end
of the world if this guy gets elected
that he'll never leave office and he's gonna
do all kinds of crazy stuff that won't
actually happen.
Doesn't that kinda set the stage for something
like this to possibly occur?
1 thing I read is that the head
of the secret service is a Biden appoint
and they've been running on a skeleton crew,
so that's just another thing like,
it seems as if without doing it yourself,
you might be setting the conditions for this
sort of thing to maybe happen eventually,
and you're not setting up the secret service
for access and being able to have the
resources to do something about it. I don't
know.
It reminds me of the R k thing.
R k junior
legitimate candidate for president, he requested secret service
and they denied him.
Given the history with family, I felt like
that was very bold, and it's almost like
a veil threat in and of itself.
You're running for president you wanna be in
the public eye. You wanna get involved in
this highly volatile
political arena?
Good luck. You're on your own and no.
We won't protect you.
Kinda sends a pretty clear message to all
other third party candidates forever.
As for the event itself, and the claims
that it didn't sound like a real gun,
sure, analyze it all you want. I don't
have a lot of gun experience, but the
situation is set up to capture your audio
from the podium only, not some distant gunshots.
So who knows what it's supposed to sound
like when you're hearing it through
rigged up sound equipment in that situation.
Was the Cia involved? I don't know. I
tend to think that they don't miss in
these situations unless they want to miss. But
Trump was already leading. There was no reason
to risk staging something,
so uncontrollable like this.
When it already seems like kind of a
lock.
Like I said, my best guess is that
this is a little less hands on than
a usual
assassination attempt and it's more about just
setting up a highly volatile
situation,
and seeing what happens. The media has not
shut up about the...
If this guy wins, it's the end of
the world stuff. It's the same old political.
Playbook a. They dust off every election, but
it's obviously a little more ramped up now
and people are more
susceptible, I guess, this kind of manipulation than
ever because they're so vested in their team.
So if an unstable person sees Biden state
of decline and thinks another 4 years of
Trump will be catastrophic,
then it's not unreasonable to think some volatile
person somewhere will try to be a vigilant.
And if there's any truth to that aspect
of things where the secret service doesn't have
their usual
manpower capacities then, that's just icing on the
cake.
Sometimes a story kind of is what it
is without a deeper explanation, and the fact
that the guy missed and looks exactly like
I'd expect him to look makes me lean
that way.
The sketchy stuff is the things I already
mentioned on top of the reports that local
people on the scene, warned law enforcement that
they saw,
and I know listening to some of the
mainstream coverage that
An early caller said there were multiple shooters
which man.
If I had a dollar for every time
I've heard that, I'd have about 8 dollars.
And then, of course, they said, well, that
was just echoes. Maybe it was echoes.
Or maybe there were 2 shooters and this
was more orchestrated than we know. I'm not
sure. But here's another observation from my personal
group chat. 1 friend.
I was trying to be funny and posted
a compilation of Trump
to 50 cents song, many men. Many many
many men wish death on me.
And I found it pretty funny. It's just
another 1 of those things.
And then a second buddy said, and I
quote,
when my daughters are locked away for being
gay and god only knows what happens to
our special needs son, I'll remember that he
was 50 cents of president's fucking disgusting fuck
him.
And it just shows how worried some people
have become over the prospect of Trump winning.
I had to say to him, hey, man.
You know this guy was already president for
4 years and, like, none of that happened.
Right?
Twitch, of course, can you guess he cited
project 20 25 and the thing about that?
Is that nobody ever heard project 20 25
until Biden shit the bed at the debate.
Then in my opinion, it gets rolled out
as a big scary aspect of the same
old
If we don't beat them, it's the end
of everything rhetoric that we always deal with.
So I also said to my buddy, oh,
well.
I heard the project 20 25 documents are
a thousand pages, so I haven't personally read
them, but yes.
If they literally say their plan is to
lock up homosexual and people with special needs,
then, yeah, that is a concern.
But I'm pretty sure it doesn't say that,
and I don't even have to read it.
So more than analyzing the event at self
under a microscope. I just think it's been
interesting to see all these reactions from people
on both sides and interpreting events.
However, it suits the team narrative, and that's
just really sad.
There's so little objectivity and so little critical
thinking and few people just willing to take
a step back and observe rather than reacting.
On 1 hand, I question if any event
is truly genuine when it's this highly charged.
And on the other hand, this is a
country of billions of people with plenty of
access to guns in half the country has
been so primed to hate this guy that
I wouldn't be surprised if someone took a
stab at it and totally wi like the
un unfinished luna he appears to be.
Whether that's broad, political programming or something more
specific to the individual, I'll probably never know.
But these people don't care about you, so
don't invest too much time thinking about them
either.
Yes, this is a conspiracy show, But I
think we do a pretty good job not
leaning any which way and trying to be
pretty a political.
You don't even hear the names Trump or
Biden very much.
Even in an election year because I don't
think it matters too much, and we have
no control over it.
I've said this before talking with my strongly
invested in the game liberal friends and probably
on Thc at some point. But if we
didn't have the Tv and the media constantly
trying to suck our attention and mental energy
election drama,
would there really be any signs in your
actual life that we got a new president?
Not really?
Sure. You can cite a few changes that
you were told about through the media, but
without being told
in your everyday, local life,
It's pretty much a continuum of the same
stuff.
Think back over the last 20 years, just
even since the year 2000,
I think you can look at your own
trajectory as something completely separate than the back
and forth swing from left to right blue
to red and back again.
And this is the part that really r
up my liberal friends and I'm kind of
half kidding, but the only indication of a
new president that I'd in my personal life
is that Bush and Trump both sent me
checks in the mail.
But anyway, I know I'm going to be
asked, and those are just some thoughts.
Just don't get yourself wound too tight and
don't forget to be able to laugh because
they laugh at us plenty.
And back to the show today, Fun, big
picture, wild interview, big thanks Lara, I hope
this 1 comes close to matching the enjoyment
and excitement of the last episode with Pope,
but that is gonna be tough because that
show right now has a 4.9
from the plus people
absolutely
insane. It's like everyone gave it 5 stars
and 1 guy gave it 4.
1 of the best reviewed episodes in Thc
history definitely since I started calling it out,
and these are plus people So rest assured
the second hour is just as good if
not better than the first? Why keep missing
half the show, sign up with that 7
day free trial and cancel if you don't
like it?
At least give me that for all my
effort. Right? And a nice little add a
boy for not doing sponsorships and wasting your
time with ads.
But man, 4.9
is great. I aim to please, and it
looks like last week was a solid bulls
eye.
Now let's check the meetup calendar. Funny, I
was so critical of the lack of events
and then a day later, I get a
nice card in the Po box from a
meetup up group, but here we go.
Come and right up in just a few
days, Thursday, July eighteenth, the La Truth meetup
up at the coral tree.
Followed by Wednesday, July 20 fourth, the Oak
shire public house in Eugene Oregon,
and then also on July 20 fourth is
a meetup up at the corner bakery cafe
in Pasadena.
So, yeah, Same 3 events. I honestly pay
a developer too much. On a monthly basis
to keep this up for just 2 or
3 events.
I'm not saying I'm gonna stop, but if
people aren't responding to it. Maybe at the
end of the year, we do wind it
down. I don't wanna force something that isn't
working.
Doesn't bother me. It's all good either way.
I'm just throwing things out and see and
what sticks.
I know a big part of me implementing
this was that I'd be able to travel
and go to these different places I wanna
go with my wife and then just have
a meet up, and then it's all business
expense.
It's how the big boys do it,
and I just haven't been able to get
there because of the 2 young kids. So
maybe we dust it off again in a
couple years. I don't know, but I'd like
to see more people using it with tens
of thousands of people listening.
I thought there would be a better reception
to this, but, hey, I'm not gonna push.
It is what it is, but that is
the show check out Laura books her website
and the subs, she knows a lot about
a lot.
Take care of you in yours, mind your
mental health because they're trying so hard to
get you all worked up.
And with that, I've done my part, your
move, organic portal possess, human energy eaters and
agents of the hyper dimensional control matrix.
Your
fucking move.
No 1 knows but it's
the bare.
To be the sad man.
Behind blue eyes.
For no 1 knows what it's like.
To be hated.
To be faded.
To telling only
lives
but my dreams
art.
Is empty.
Has my conscience.
Only
lonely.
Since they
exposed me.
On thc.
No 1 knows. What it's like.
Feel these feel.
Like I do.
And I blame you.
No 1 bites back is hard.
Hunter anger.
Love my pain and world
can go through
but my dreams
aren't
sm empty.
Has my conscience.
I
always
me.
Dreams.
Content
empty.
Have my content.
Oh wait.
Lonely.
Since
exposed me
No 1. No what it's like.
To be the bad man.
To be the sad.