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Alright, guys. Look. We know what this is.

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It's my pre show pitch to try to

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And this is a format I've been using

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for 10 years now, so I realize that

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most people who see the value have already

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pulled the trigger on it, but now I'm

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trying to get deep down into those hard

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to reach places and I guess that's you.

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Now what can I say that hasn't been

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said there's only a few ways of podcast

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works? The big 1 is ads, they trying

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suck. They ruined the flow of the show

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and in a lot of cases, they erode

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the trust and respect I have for hosts

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that go this route. They shouldn't be promoting

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boner pills and hair pills or in encouraging

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a fast track through the therapy pipeline just

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because they're getting paid. I've seen nutritional break

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down some of these ingredients in the athletic

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health powder and drinks and surprise, they're not

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as good as they claim to be. I

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bought a razor, my favorite podcast said would

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be Nick Proof. Nick myself the first day.

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App I got sucked into a foam mattress

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from a guy who said he's never slept

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better, and I haven't slept good sense. And

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that Irish titles thing everyone was selling turned

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out to be a complete scam too. But

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enough about how my colleagues mouths are for

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sale to whoever asks, I'm here to put

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you in this plus membership today. 5 shows

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a month for 8 bucks with a decade

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long archive. And yes, the first hour is

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important. It's there to present our guests to

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the wide counter culture open minded audience we've

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cultivated, and it gives people a feel for

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if they like what Thc is,

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as well as being the proof of concept

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the added time. Feel The second hour is

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so I can make a living and it's

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also an opportunity to get into the stuff

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your standard 1 hour shows can't. Asking guests,

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about that obscure provocative quote from their book

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that I actually read, talking about previous work

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they might have done, getting their thoughts on

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some odd subject doubts side of their latest

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material or maybe even talking about something too

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spicy to be out there in the open.

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And that should appeal to anyone who enjoys

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the first hour and when you become a

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plus member, these full episodes are all there

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in a single 2 hour file, no switching

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back and forth or downloading 2 separate halves

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of the same interview. Full It's very nice

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to have it that way going forward. And

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if you wanna go back, unlike most podcast

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archives that are just a big chronological list,

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jump in about 50 minutes to hear everything

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gonna be pulling 1 free plus show a

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free feed to give you an even better

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sense of what you miss. The on comment

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section is pretty lively, and the rating system

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is there to let me know the shows

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plus people like best. You also get lifetime

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Mark. A lot of great artwork of aliens,

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range of wild stuff put on shirts, coffee

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mugs, pillows, yada yada yada. But it's the

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ongoing full interviews people want and its convenience

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that they need. Well, I know 90 percent

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of listeners are in a podcast podcasting app

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right now, but So, at the top of

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the show notes, there are the sign up

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blanks. The form is quick and easy and

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Thc plus has an Rs feed like any

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other show and it can be used with

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all the big podcasting apps too. I've got

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support documents and real non bought people to

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help you if you need it. Any but

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it's been made as easy as it can

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and you get a 7 day free trial

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to make sure I'm right, at least meet

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me there. I also have a patreon link

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at the top of the show notes, which

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I don't love. I'd rather not have a

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middle man between us when we could be

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dancing and cheek to cheek, but they are

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a spotify partner and a lot of people

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choose Spotify to listen to Thc. But So

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I wanted to make sure they could use

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it for plus also while they let us.

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The show notes also give you my Po

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box for cash, check. Or business to business

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barter as well as all the crypto addresses

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because anything is better than nothing. And I

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want the plus shows to be heard anyway

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they can be just offer me some kind

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of exchange, You know? This is the job

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I work at, and I use this example

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a lot, but a waiter gets an 8

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dollar tip for walking the most forget meal

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of your life from the kitchen to the

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table and you don't get anything extra for

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your 8 dollars either. If what I do

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here isn't at least worth that, tip Is

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it even worth your time? Hey, I don't

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like doing this part of the job, but

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I owe it to my family now to

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suck it up and make my case while

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I can because who knows how long this

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can last?

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I'm not some Hollywood millionaire trying to appear

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genuine through a focus grouped podcasting venture cycling

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through all the other celebrities in the agency.

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I'm just a regular guy who had to

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make myself valuable when the working world didn't

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think I had anything to offer. And I

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hope the first free hour proves that the

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full experience is worth the price. If we

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don't like the ad revenue based world we're

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living in then we have to support people

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who dare to do it a different way

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who does something interesting entertaining and hopefully useful.

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Outside of that, I just ask that you

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support the guests to resonate with you or

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at least let them know you appreciated what

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you heard. And that's it. We can get

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on with the show and we'll let the

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rest of the podcasting world pretend there's no

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better way to do it than dis genuinely

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h up any product that cuts them a

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check while we do our own thing. Meet

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and enjoy.

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The plan up in master summer show you

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have a plan

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is clearly. Maybe something there be all the

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realm of man

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till we thoroughly tested. Every last close chest

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Find the morning you think no

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you really do?

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know what.

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So say we all hire chatter doing the

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thing from the Sunshine state Greg Carl wood,

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and we know that we live under a

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constant onslaught of misinformation and deceptive narratives about

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reality, humanity in our history in this place,

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not only in our modern lab coat age,

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but throughout time, the authorities of their day

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have always sought to control the ways in

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which we think about our environment and ourselves

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usually with much success.

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Sometimes the s false stories collapse under the

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weight of a new regime or maybe they're

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rep packaged for a new purpose.

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their home in the collective mind mainly on

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their prior momentum.

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And with so much manipulation over so much

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time on top of cataclysmic upheaval, wars and

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revolving door of empires,

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1 might expect the deep truth to be

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barely a whisper and like a twitch finger

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poking out from the pile of rubble, beaten

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and buried, but with the slightest sign of

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life's, still signaling that not all hope is

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lost just yet. Well, today's guest might be

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able to help us out. He goes only

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by pope and he has taken the seemingly

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separate echoes in wi of several persistent stories

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of humanity that a persevere through time and

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space

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and connected them in coherent ways that gives

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new transfers to the weaken segments of the

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signal and lays out a model that I

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imagine you will consider quite compelling.

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For the inner unaware is the anonymous writer

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and self proclaimed Gon pap historian of the

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pope head post via a subs,

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which he refers to as a newsletter about

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people history and deep top

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that also exposes the mason and the j.

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But he also writes about things like the

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the true nature of Ufo, mass, occult rituals

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of the parasite class, icon, and symbolism, hollow

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earth, sporting events, cataclysm, pull shifts, the A

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and several other subject areas where our obscure

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and bizarre interest overlap. Hallelujah people. Let's go

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the Gon

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historian dedicated dot connect and great mystery reveal

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pope,

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welcome to the higher side.

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Hey, it's great to be here, man, and

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thank you once again for that great introduction.

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During I'm flattered.

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I try. And thanks for taking the time.

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It was after a few interviews with our

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mutual friend schwab that he recommended. I take

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a look at. Your subs if I was

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interested in some schwab adjacent takes on similar

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subjects. And you and I started talking about

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an interview, over a year ago, and then

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your Twitter account was banned, and only recently

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do we make contact again. And in that

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time, you've started this series

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between Za and S that I really love

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and is probably gonna take up the bulk

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of our time together, but I wanted to

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start by introducing people to your perspective d

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and ways of seen things. You have a

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post titled unreal reality nature loves to hide

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and you write a few things that I

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think make a good place to start. Jumping

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around a little bit, you say,

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once upon a time, I struck a certain

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unspoken deal with the world around me, I

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swore oath, a covenant of sorts. That in

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ina and slippery intelligence that surrounds all things.

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A promise that I would devote my days

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is to trans figuring the quota

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into the uncanny. So Mystic is nothing more

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than the ability to interact and perceive the

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ordinary,

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extraordinarily

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to meet the dawn with a certain conviction

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a resolve

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to see beyond the dark sheet of daily

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life, past routine and glimpse the world with

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a fresh wonder and terror

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To understand this world, you must grasp the

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fact that everything is in flux and that

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all things transform

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that beans come in and out of existence

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in the blink of an eye Most men

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just lack the will to notice. I have

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seen birds manifest in the sky and disappear

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into thin air. I have watched monstrous men

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walk, behind me down a dark alley and

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disappear through a dead end. Once you realize

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these things, life becomes a little more sensible

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Once you grasp the am logic that orders

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are waking forms and energy, the world may

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finally open up to your inquiries.

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Well, I love that, but elaborate a little

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bit more on these

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realizations and the insightful,

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experiences that have opened you up to these

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perspectives.

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Well, I'll put it this way. Ever since

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I was a child. It was always kind

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of an odd duck.

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And this kind of weirdness is underlying kind

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of strange

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I eventually came to embrace.

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This strange

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overlap

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between all of our kind of mutual interests.

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These kind of spheres we have going and

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the uncanny, the strange.

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The esoteric, a occult, whether it's alien

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fascination

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or just a healthy interest in.

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These These things first began the interest me

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as a child, both my parents

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had

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very strong haunted house experiences as a kid.

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This is something I'd hear about from my

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father

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without revealing too much here in do myself.

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My mother was the

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child of a diplomat in East Asia.

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They lived in a...

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As my grandfather would put it, I don't

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believe in ghosts, but I lived in a

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haunted house,

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and I was kind of I guess nurse

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on these stories growing up,

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that same grandfather had a

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very large collection of, let's say East Asian,

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anti

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gods that he collected during his diplomatic career,

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you know, I grew up,

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going over this house, the only these

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hundreds of

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Taiwanese folk gods staring down at May these

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are devastation things he had. And this really

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sparked this interest.

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Just in the strange.

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Or I guess you could put it or

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this kind of religious impulse.

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And then, I guess when I got older,

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I developed this kind of

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Because you see almost... What I thought was

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Ocd this kind of intense

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obsession with

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numbers and sign. It sounds a bit sc

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schizophrenia putting it this way, but it was

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really just this very kind of intense

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fascination,

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with symbols,

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what the world could kind of reveal in

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front of me?

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Now,

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my rein reproduction, I guess, when I I

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really got into this kind of stuff was

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basically my viewpoint.

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For how I see things.

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If we're gonna tie this all in together.

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I guess you could say I'm a meta

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physical realist in the sense that I believe

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whether you could call it God where the

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gods, these are objective

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entities. These things

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exist,

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fairies,

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you know, any kind of variety of

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super sensory

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I think these things are just as real,

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if not more real than human beings. I

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think human beings

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have a lot less

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agency. The over our own lives in the

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sense that

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there is a kind of

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downward

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psycho drama kind of occurring around us,

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all the time.

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There's a great quote. I think this is

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probably 1 of the best ways to explain

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my own kind of perspective on things, and

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it's from Jean Shelby Downer.

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I'm king kill 33.

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Because the dead and dead scenery of the

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American City of Dreadful knight is so utterly

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devoid a mystery, so thoroughly flat bullet,

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Sterile and infant tile, so burdened with the

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ill gloss of baseball hot dogs, Apple pie

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and Chevrolet.

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It is somehow outside the psycho sexual domain.

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The eternal pagan and psycho

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is escalated under these modern conditions,

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precisely because so is not what twentieth century

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man can accept as real.

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I think that quote, basically is the best

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introduction to my own kind of view

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of

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history events.

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The world at large.

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Mh.

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Yes. There's a segment of researchers that call

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themselves sync

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and they kind of... Credit down as being

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a big part of the foundation of that

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community,

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And I've tried to explain it to people

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as cultural crime, but it does seem like

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it kinda speaks to that quote you just

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read that our current culture,

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seems very

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mundane and inn

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and quite boring, but underneath it is a

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current of

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Esoteric ritual,

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and it comes through in some films. Obviously,

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Hollywood is a hot hotbed for this kind

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of stuff. It comes through at ritual

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events and

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award shows and goddard tunnel ceremonies and all

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sorts of strange stuff, and the common just

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tends to ignore it, but you'll find that

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these certain people with an knack for it

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will,

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weave a tapestry of symbols

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and

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intention

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into what they're identifying as a mass ritual

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and

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it's hard to know how much is designed

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by

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a source class and how much is like,

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the other side

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communicating back because some of it gets really

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complicated, but I was also gonna ask about

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this because I know that along the way

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with this journey of curiosity

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in your life, you have dabble

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with the occult this to a degree,

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talk to us a bit about that chapter

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of your life or really just what it

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revealed to you about reality itself, because a

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lot of people, their interest and magic and

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the occult is very

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academic or scholar. We might read a lot

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about it, but not actually put it into

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practice. Is If you did put much of

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this into practice,

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what kind of successes did you have were

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the doors of reality blown open for you?

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Well, I will hold off, I'm going to

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the exact detail Some of these experimentation, but

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I will say this.

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And to go back to the original question

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you asked on that

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quotation from my unreal article.

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An incredible thing kind of happens.

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When you set your intention on paying

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complete mind

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to say the strange rhymes.

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That haunt your periphery on a day to

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day basis.

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When you really

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make a commitment

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to the strange

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Especially let's say, in a city environment if

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you're in an ancient city environment, I live

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here in Rome,

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you will tend to find some very strange

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things

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Either in areas of an urban environment where

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there's nobody around

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or when there's a ton of people around.

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So there's the same kind of

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where propensity

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for things

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that seem

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Again, to go back to this term unreal

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and areas like this.

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You've probably read that 1 article I did

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on a very specific

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Alley way in the city of Rome where

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I encountered

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something strange.

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And it's in these kind of areas like

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this in these kind of seclusion

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and a strange alley that's linked by someone

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unspeakable geometry

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to other strange

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Points of focus of architecture or maybe the

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groove of a saint and it informs as

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bizarre kind of tri

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where strange things to happen. And this whole

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idea of either lay lines

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or,

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any form of mystical top, These things come

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together in a a very strange collage,

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or certain points, certain areas.

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Things that are this world can be conquered?

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Yes. And for people listening, you're referencing a

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story where you saw kind of like a

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shadow bean type thing in an alley way

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in Rome, and then you started dissect

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the environment in which you saw it and

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all these symbols bubble up.

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And

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from this, I thought about my own experience.

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I told you this, but for people listening,

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I've talked about my shadow being 40 experience

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many times from when I was young,

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But what never clicked with me is that

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I saw this being at the edge of

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this subdivision in Arnold Missouri where I was

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raised and the name of the subdivision was

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Saint. John's crossing,

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and

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that's such a iso esoteric potent name was

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foresee scenes such a strange thing. And then

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I looked at the birds eye view of

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my old neighborhood having never the desire to

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have done this before, And it looks very

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much like a free masonic square and compass.

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I sent you the image am I seeing

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and things or would you... No It's there.

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It's there. Yeah.

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It's very weird. I never thought of that.

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And then I started looking into the history

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of well, how did this Lutheran church get

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put in this place and who built the

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subdivision, and then I had to put it

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all down, and

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focus on getting ready for this interview, but

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it is

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really interesting when you start paying attention to

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details around potent things,

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and

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how it's like man. This all seems like

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some kind of stage craft, but you have

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another series called 23

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could do where you do go deeper into

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James Shelby downer, style analysis,

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Basically that sync stuff could And you write

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that you are fascinated with the idea of

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what James shelby be down called Mystical, top,

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and that could be described as the geography

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of Witchcraft

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and on man see the doctrine of names,

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you say to explain this sober early, it

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is the idea that certain locations and their

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names can have weirder meta physical effect. Very

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40 and stuff.

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And of course, this gets deeper from there,

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but what would you say to people about?

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It's how that is possible because sometimes it's

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very strange that the names of a place

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that's derived by some humans somewhere,

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I mean, we would think. And then like,

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lay lines would be kind of naturally baked

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into the earth.

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How do we...

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Unravel this interplay between what sometimes seems like

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human design, and then other times seems like

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baked into aspects of nature.

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I'm very glad you asked that.

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I think a lot of people who go

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into this topic

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and who try to formulate some kind of

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coherent way to explain it, and it's very

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hard to explain these kind of things

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and a way that sounds

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even halfway

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reasonable.

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That's why I actually have been deferring to

547
00:20:37,627 --> 00:20:39,536
and I tried explain this or pouring this

548
00:20:39,536 --> 00:20:40,172
into a system.

549
00:20:41,443 --> 00:20:42,182
The eastern

550
00:20:42,556 --> 00:20:43,272
neo plate.

551
00:20:44,643 --> 00:20:45,143
Specifically,

552
00:20:45,922 --> 00:20:48,799
my own personal thought is probably most aligned

553
00:20:48,799 --> 00:20:49,678
with 2 figures,

554
00:20:50,397 --> 00:20:50,897
the

555
00:20:51,356 --> 00:20:52,075
and pro.

556
00:20:53,519 --> 00:20:55,263
Ian blink is great innovation.

557
00:20:56,611 --> 00:20:57,111
Ian

558
00:20:57,879 --> 00:20:59,703
basically breaks with por free.

559
00:21:01,232 --> 00:21:02,451
Por free was this

560
00:21:03,068 --> 00:21:05,165
who was the disciple of the famous.

561
00:21:06,980 --> 00:21:07,480
Yam

562
00:21:07,858 --> 00:21:09,375
break with por was on.

563
00:21:11,615 --> 00:21:13,203
Many of you are probably familiar with this

564
00:21:13,203 --> 00:21:13,997
term vaguely,

565
00:21:14,871 --> 00:21:15,529
but basically,

566
00:21:16,221 --> 00:21:17,435
theo was

567
00:21:18,944 --> 00:21:21,284
A set at least kind of ritual

568
00:21:21,825 --> 00:21:23,204
acts you could do

569
00:21:23,744 --> 00:21:26,304
to align yourself with the gods.

570
00:21:27,039 --> 00:21:27,779
And in,

571
00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:29,460
cosmology,

572
00:21:29,839 --> 00:21:31,039
his own theology,

573
00:21:31,519 --> 00:21:34,579
he believed that God were the gods

574
00:21:35,133 --> 00:21:38,016
when they created the universe, they basically so

575
00:21:38,548 --> 00:21:39,048
sun

576
00:21:39,581 --> 00:21:40,614
and Greek basically,

577
00:21:41,567 --> 00:21:42,782
signatures are symbols

578
00:21:43,235 --> 00:21:44,347
all throughout the world.

579
00:21:45,079 --> 00:21:45,979
That directly

580
00:21:46,757 --> 00:21:49,794
would have various correspondence with their superior deity.

581
00:21:50,193 --> 00:21:52,510
Right? So and this very kind of elaborate

582
00:21:52,510 --> 00:21:54,912
hierarchy you say, A rooster was said to

583
00:21:54,912 --> 00:21:56,418
be under the domain, it was a solar

584
00:21:56,418 --> 00:21:58,797
symbol, just as a lion, all these various

585
00:21:58,797 --> 00:22:00,225
kind of things, and it was the job

586
00:22:00,225 --> 00:22:01,018
of theo,

587
00:22:01,907 --> 00:22:04,317
and the and later pro view

588
00:22:05,170 --> 00:22:07,103
to basically take part in this

589
00:22:08,115 --> 00:22:09,125
task of

590
00:22:09,562 --> 00:22:11,792
uniting these various signatures to gather these various

591
00:22:11,792 --> 00:22:13,942
signs of the world under their prevailing deity,

592
00:22:14,499 --> 00:22:16,808
and going about this almost red task in

593
00:22:16,808 --> 00:22:17,467
the world

594
00:22:18,099 --> 00:22:19,940
So anyone who is familiar just from hearing

595
00:22:19,940 --> 00:22:21,380
that, Anyone who is familiar with?

596
00:22:22,259 --> 00:22:24,099
Maybe James shall be downer, can already see

597
00:22:24,099 --> 00:22:26,899
an immediate correspondence in this way of looking

598
00:22:26,899 --> 00:22:28,453
at. Sign of symbol

599
00:22:28,831 --> 00:22:29,889
of psycho.

600
00:22:30,427 --> 00:22:31,784
There was a very great book that just

601
00:22:31,784 --> 00:22:34,258
came out by the scholar Gregory Shaw, and

602
00:22:34,258 --> 00:22:35,876
he was 1 of the foremost experts

603
00:22:36,268 --> 00:22:36,768
on

604
00:22:37,382 --> 00:22:39,235
today and kind of late neo.

605
00:22:41,282 --> 00:22:43,590
And he wrote a book 1, I think

606
00:22:43,590 --> 00:22:45,991
was called The and the soul about The

607
00:22:45,991 --> 00:22:48,054
has been very recently he wrote a book

608
00:22:48,054 --> 00:22:48,213
called.

609
00:22:49,959 --> 00:22:51,967
And in it, he does his comparative analysis

610
00:22:52,498 --> 00:22:53,768
between Eastern,

611
00:22:54,165 --> 00:22:55,556
the late neo photon

612
00:22:56,091 --> 00:22:59,219
and some of these tan traditions out and

613
00:22:59,435 --> 00:22:59,993
the east.

614
00:23:00,949 --> 00:23:02,882
What he finds is 1 of these

615
00:23:03,829 --> 00:23:04,329
correspondence.

616
00:23:04,863 --> 00:23:06,716
Is this idea of

617
00:23:07,409 --> 00:23:09,500
the gods looking for

618
00:23:10,448 --> 00:23:12,761
bodies to inhabit, they wanna manifest in the

619
00:23:12,761 --> 00:23:14,116
world through human beings.

620
00:23:14,834 --> 00:23:16,349
And when we get into the rest of

621
00:23:16,349 --> 00:23:18,024
our series, we'll see how that kind of

622
00:23:18,024 --> 00:23:19,434
plays out some more in these

623
00:23:20,032 --> 00:23:20,272
traditions.

624
00:23:21,467 --> 00:23:23,221
But the point I'm trying to get at

625
00:23:23,221 --> 00:23:23,779
is this?

626
00:23:24,895 --> 00:23:27,207
How does this tie back to our original

627
00:23:27,207 --> 00:23:27,606
question,

628
00:23:28,892 --> 00:23:31,034
How does this justify or how am I

629
00:23:31,034 --> 00:23:32,327
going to get around justifying

630
00:23:32,859 --> 00:23:35,715
this mystical top on. These are these symbols

631
00:23:35,715 --> 00:23:36,191
popping up?

632
00:23:37,798 --> 00:23:39,789
This is actually in the same vein as

633
00:23:39,789 --> 00:23:40,846
how I

634
00:23:41,222 --> 00:23:41,722
basically

635
00:23:42,098 --> 00:23:44,806
explained some of my more elaborate conspiracy theories.

636
00:23:45,459 --> 00:23:46,678
Is I don't think

637
00:23:47,617 --> 00:23:48,996
these things are all the products

638
00:23:49,614 --> 00:23:52,331
of men themselves. I think when you get

639
00:23:52,331 --> 00:23:53,530
these very strange,

640
00:23:54,105 --> 00:23:54,605
correspondence

641
00:23:55,464 --> 00:23:57,464
of symbols, so you're going down a street,

642
00:23:58,105 --> 00:23:59,944
and all these different names kind of line

643
00:23:59,944 --> 00:24:01,704
up, in a very strange way and it

644
00:24:01,704 --> 00:24:03,558
relates to this, This isn't just the product

645
00:24:03,558 --> 00:24:05,796
of maybe in the same ways in maybe

646
00:24:05,796 --> 00:24:08,033
a conspiracy of man. It's not just that.

647
00:24:08,512 --> 00:24:09,951
There is, as I said, I'm a meta

648
00:24:09,951 --> 00:24:10,590
physical realist.

649
00:24:11,244 --> 00:24:13,244
I believe that the gods themselves have a

650
00:24:13,244 --> 00:24:15,404
weird part to play. And these are signatures

651
00:24:15,404 --> 00:24:18,065
that they sown into the world come into

652
00:24:18,285 --> 00:24:18,605
coordinates.

653
00:24:19,259 --> 00:24:20,298
And human beings.

654
00:24:21,017 --> 00:24:22,616
They have a commitment enough to seeing the

655
00:24:22,616 --> 00:24:22,855
weird.

656
00:24:23,734 --> 00:24:26,212
This kinda of manifest do them. And this

657
00:24:26,212 --> 00:24:27,650
is where we get into stuff like ci

658
00:24:27,650 --> 00:24:28,150
mystic.

659
00:24:29,022 --> 00:24:31,570
And my own kind of very bizarre,

660
00:24:32,127 --> 00:24:33,879
I know Schwab as a similar way. If

661
00:24:33,879 --> 00:24:35,574
you ask some of these kind of conspiracy

662
00:24:35,631 --> 00:24:37,477
researchers like, us, even though I kinda... I

663
00:24:37,477 --> 00:24:39,784
haven't shy away from that label lately,

664
00:24:40,421 --> 00:24:41,534
but I need to own it.

665
00:24:43,602 --> 00:24:44,102
When

666
00:24:44,492 --> 00:24:46,083
you asked someone like us of how we

667
00:24:46,083 --> 00:24:47,833
go about our kind of process of research.

668
00:24:48,629 --> 00:24:48,867
Well,

669
00:24:49,981 --> 00:24:50,697
mister Fort,

670
00:24:51,509 --> 00:24:53,529
coined a very interesting term called the library

671
00:24:53,670 --> 00:24:55,990
angel where you feel like something is guiding

672
00:24:55,990 --> 00:24:58,230
you. It almost just comes to you when

673
00:24:58,230 --> 00:25:00,444
you're researching these things, and you get this

674
00:25:00,884 --> 00:25:01,284
progressive,

675
00:25:02,404 --> 00:25:03,845
almost like out of the balloon and you

676
00:25:03,845 --> 00:25:05,865
can kind feel it coming on this strange

677
00:25:06,484 --> 00:25:07,865
progression of sync,

678
00:25:08,499 --> 00:25:11,397
and symbols come together and this whole research

679
00:25:12,096 --> 00:25:14,973
tunnel just kind of manifest before you. And

680
00:25:14,973 --> 00:25:16,491
it's the most amazing thing when it happens.

681
00:25:16,731 --> 00:25:17,870
It's almost like a rush

682
00:25:18,581 --> 00:25:20,274
when you really go down 1 of these

683
00:25:20,490 --> 00:25:22,558
research rabbit holes, you're almost working yourself up

684
00:25:22,558 --> 00:25:23,695
into this kind of manic

685
00:25:25,358 --> 00:25:27,828
Funny enough real quick on that point, I

686
00:25:27,828 --> 00:25:29,364
believe it was Pro 2

687
00:25:29,740 --> 00:25:30,240
who

688
00:25:31,334 --> 00:25:33,724
listed out these kind of 4 types of

689
00:25:33,724 --> 00:25:34,521
divine madness.

690
00:25:35,653 --> 00:25:36,393
1 was

691
00:25:36,932 --> 00:25:37,571
erotic madness,

692
00:25:38,609 --> 00:25:40,207
which is, of course under the goddess of

693
00:25:40,207 --> 00:25:41,940
alfred it, but he said the beginnings of

694
00:25:42,297 --> 00:25:44,525
philosophy come from erotic madness this kind of

695
00:25:44,525 --> 00:25:46,672
a love going out. There is the poetic

696
00:25:46,672 --> 00:25:48,422
madness, which I believe comes from muse.

697
00:25:49,074 --> 00:25:50,343
And then the last way I think are

698
00:25:50,343 --> 00:25:51,851
the most interesting, and these are the ones

699
00:25:51,851 --> 00:25:53,383
most are the domain of

700
00:25:53,836 --> 00:25:56,137
stranger conspiracy theorists. The first is,

701
00:25:57,424 --> 00:25:59,015
man or prophetic madness,

702
00:25:59,731 --> 00:26:01,981
and this comes from the go, polo and

703
00:26:02,754 --> 00:26:03,152
madness.

704
00:26:04,518 --> 00:26:08,492
This stranger ini madness, that supposedly falls under

705
00:26:08,492 --> 00:26:09,446
their realm dionysus.

706
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,228
Not to anyone listening here, I'm not literally

707
00:26:12,228 --> 00:26:15,112
saying, that I believe these gods are controlling

708
00:26:15,112 --> 00:26:15,910
these various things.

709
00:26:16,787 --> 00:26:18,643
But this way of looking at

710
00:26:19,180 --> 00:26:21,355
the world or thought processes of this

711
00:26:21,732 --> 00:26:23,663
inspiration that comes from outside.

712
00:26:24,620 --> 00:26:27,255
I very much believed it, whether it's through

713
00:26:27,255 --> 00:26:27,755
research

714
00:26:28,212 --> 00:26:29,250
really through anything.

715
00:26:29,649 --> 00:26:31,826
This incredible almost like strike of lightning

716
00:26:32,217 --> 00:26:33,011
that'll come over.

717
00:26:34,044 --> 00:26:34,521
Mh.

718
00:26:35,315 --> 00:26:37,483
I think that's a great explanation. And

719
00:26:38,334 --> 00:26:40,796
when you look at the way Nasa names

720
00:26:40,796 --> 00:26:43,520
stands with Apollo and the old Gods and

721
00:26:43,759 --> 00:26:46,414
Osiris rex and you look at Bloomberg,

722
00:26:46,872 --> 00:26:47,930
digging up a

723
00:26:48,388 --> 00:26:50,954
temple of mit and requiring it to be

724
00:26:50,954 --> 00:26:52,012
moved to his new

725
00:26:52,547 --> 00:26:55,492
headquarters like the elite clearly care about these

726
00:26:55,492 --> 00:26:57,982
old gods and these old cults and

727
00:26:58,532 --> 00:27:00,784
A lot of times when I see conspiracy

728
00:27:00,921 --> 00:27:03,310
researchers just chalk that all up to Satan

729
00:27:03,310 --> 00:27:05,141
ism. I'm like, actually, I don't know. I

730
00:27:05,141 --> 00:27:06,987
think it's a lot more complex. Than that.

731
00:27:07,145 --> 00:27:08,735
No. I totally agree. I think that's actually

732
00:27:08,735 --> 00:27:10,085
1 of the biggest pitfalls of a lot

733
00:27:10,085 --> 00:27:12,651
of conspiracy theorist is trying to put everything

734
00:27:12,787 --> 00:27:13,446
into this

735
00:27:13,820 --> 00:27:15,305
binary of, you know? Less

736
00:27:16,061 --> 00:27:16,938
This is demonic.

737
00:27:17,575 --> 00:27:18,213
This is not.

738
00:27:19,089 --> 00:27:21,479
I'm not passing any judgment on that. I'm

739
00:27:21,479 --> 00:27:23,727
simply saying that when you lose this kind

740
00:27:23,727 --> 00:27:25,025
of ability to

741
00:27:25,403 --> 00:27:27,180
come out of yourself and your own

742
00:27:27,798 --> 00:27:30,032
prejudices, and I'm not saying prejudices in a

743
00:27:30,032 --> 00:27:32,040
negative way, but your own kite. Belief system

744
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:33,153
you're own belief filter.

745
00:27:33,630 --> 00:27:34,744
If you lose the ability to come out

746
00:27:34,744 --> 00:27:35,778
of that when you're doing this kind of

747
00:27:35,778 --> 00:27:36,732
free exploration.

748
00:27:37,924 --> 00:27:39,913
You kind of lose your ability to engage

749
00:27:39,913 --> 00:27:40,946
with any of this at all.

750
00:27:41,999 --> 00:27:43,777
It's good to be able to

751
00:27:44,796 --> 00:27:47,193
Yeah, to leave cell phone. I don't... I

752
00:27:47,193 --> 00:27:48,631
don't know any... A better way to put

753
00:27:48,631 --> 00:27:49,990
it. Hopefully, this is making sense.

754
00:27:50,721 --> 00:27:52,231
It is, and I'm so glad you said

755
00:27:52,231 --> 00:27:53,900
that because I think that that's the page

756
00:27:53,980 --> 00:27:56,205
I'm on and a lot of the audiences

757
00:27:56,205 --> 00:27:58,510
on. And this is an example of the

758
00:27:58,510 --> 00:27:59,328
kind of

759
00:28:00,038 --> 00:28:02,432
Ritual decoding you do. This is long and

760
00:28:02,512 --> 00:28:04,347
I'm gonna try to not stumble through it

761
00:28:04,347 --> 00:28:06,741
and make it clear for people, but this

762
00:28:06,741 --> 00:28:08,987
is very much a decoding of an elite

763
00:28:08,987 --> 00:28:12,330
ritual like James Shelby Downer, king kill 33

764
00:28:12,330 --> 00:28:13,785
analysis of the Jfk

765
00:28:14,718 --> 00:28:17,288
assassination. It's iso esoteric potent and

766
00:28:17,678 --> 00:28:20,465
deep down to the last detail. It's the

767
00:28:20,465 --> 00:28:21,898
kind of thing just as you were saying,

768
00:28:22,136 --> 00:28:24,366
some of it seems too precise for human

769
00:28:24,366 --> 00:28:25,582
hands, but yet

770
00:28:25,894 --> 00:28:28,047
Clearly, people are involved in the planning of

771
00:28:28,047 --> 00:28:28,207
it.

772
00:28:28,924 --> 00:28:32,136
You have this example in a post titled

773
00:28:32,195 --> 00:28:35,066
ariel a better the Ufo you know, part

774
00:28:35,066 --> 00:28:35,305
2.

775
00:28:36,275 --> 00:28:37,945
And this gets us a little bit off

776
00:28:37,945 --> 00:28:40,171
the planned path, but I know our people

777
00:28:40,171 --> 00:28:42,873
love it. So we're all aware of Jack

778
00:28:43,032 --> 00:28:45,592
Parsons and the Babylon working Rich rolls out

779
00:28:45,592 --> 00:28:48,618
in the desert classic conspiracy lore, but you

780
00:28:48,618 --> 00:28:50,928
go on to say, what is important to

781
00:28:50,928 --> 00:28:53,397
understand at this point is the repetition of

782
00:28:53,397 --> 00:28:55,885
7 as paramount to the whole thing symbolically.

783
00:28:56,124 --> 00:28:59,237
Now let's get weird. Babylon is invoked between

784
00:28:59,396 --> 00:29:01,790
January nineteenth and February 20 seventh,

785
00:29:02,443 --> 00:29:05,487
in a desert in the American Southwest exactly

786
00:29:05,543 --> 00:29:09,041
77 years later during the small window on

787
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,123
02/12/2023

788
00:29:11,282 --> 00:29:14,067
Super Bowl 58 occurs in Phoenix, Arizona, a

789
00:29:14,067 --> 00:29:16,612
city but miles from where the rituals originally

790
00:29:16,612 --> 00:29:19,733
occurred. Our magic numbers discussed earlier seemed to

791
00:29:19,733 --> 00:29:21,327
haunt the event, the 2 teams it played

792
00:29:21,327 --> 00:29:24,036
with the Philadelphia Eagles and Kansas City chiefs.

793
00:29:24,769 --> 00:29:26,208
Do you know who the Eagles beat in

794
00:29:26,208 --> 00:29:28,286
the N nfc conference match to go on

795
00:29:28,286 --> 00:29:29,724
to the Super Bowl? That's right. The San

796
00:29:29,964 --> 00:29:32,362
Francisco 49 Los, obviously,

797
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,366
divisible by 7? Now if a mass ritual

798
00:29:36,366 --> 00:29:38,539
was being staged to act as a

799
00:29:38,995 --> 00:29:41,306
continuation of the Babylon working, I would wage

800
00:29:41,306 --> 00:29:43,218
your that football would be the perfect avenue.

801
00:29:43,457 --> 00:29:44,985
Why? Just look at the final score of

802
00:29:44,985 --> 00:29:47,215
the game. Of course, people know football, it's

803
00:29:47,215 --> 00:29:49,068
a game where points are usually

804
00:29:49,444 --> 00:29:51,674
grouped in 7, so there are a lot

805
00:29:51,674 --> 00:29:53,914
of sevens there, look and you point out

806
00:29:53,914 --> 00:29:56,373
even the game weather of the day, sunny,

807
00:29:56,690 --> 00:29:57,563
77

808
00:29:57,563 --> 00:30:00,260
degrees. That obviously is too precise for people,

809
00:30:00,418 --> 00:30:00,869
but

810
00:30:01,706 --> 00:30:03,699
Then you say who got the winning touchdown?

811
00:30:03,858 --> 00:30:05,771
A guy whose number is 7.

812
00:30:06,568 --> 00:30:08,083
And then you say does anyone remember what

813
00:30:08,083 --> 00:30:09,554
the Super Bowl was, and

814
00:30:10,092 --> 00:30:12,088
linked to. That's right Aliens. It was a

815
00:30:12,088 --> 00:30:14,084
few days before the Super Bowl that the

816
00:30:14,084 --> 00:30:16,878
alien rumors and weather balloons and possible disclosure

817
00:30:16,878 --> 00:30:18,395
were ramped up to a fever pitch.

818
00:30:19,049 --> 00:30:21,042
All throughout the Super Bowl, people were on

819
00:30:21,042 --> 00:30:22,558
the edge of their seats wondering if the

820
00:30:22,558 --> 00:30:24,631
government was going to release Ufo info that

821
00:30:24,631 --> 00:30:27,364
week. The timing couldn't have been more perfectly

822
00:30:27,422 --> 00:30:27,922
coordinated.

823
00:30:28,473 --> 00:30:29,349
Even stranger,

824
00:30:29,986 --> 00:30:32,932
halfway through the game, everyone began hearing reports

825
00:30:32,932 --> 00:30:34,922
that something was going to crash land on

826
00:30:35,002 --> 00:30:36,037
Earth over France.

827
00:30:36,929 --> 00:30:39,806
Societal, adrenaline was shot up to madden degrees,

828
00:30:39,966 --> 00:30:43,002
the Super Bowl was intertwined with Ufo man

829
00:30:43,002 --> 00:30:45,560
and everyone's minds and by design, I would

830
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,803
add, It doesn't hurt that Phoenix as a

831
00:30:47,803 --> 00:30:50,267
city has always been associated with aerial phenomenon,

832
00:30:50,426 --> 00:30:51,778
who remembers the Phoenix lights.

833
00:30:52,413 --> 00:30:54,480
But as crazy as all those connections are,

834
00:30:54,639 --> 00:30:56,404
none of them come close to the true

835
00:30:56,404 --> 00:30:59,608
madness of the halftime show, which almost ind

836
00:31:00,063 --> 00:31:02,424
links the Babylon workings with the event flows

837
00:31:02,703 --> 00:31:06,307
Rihanna appeared on stage dressed in scarlet, showcasing

838
00:31:06,523 --> 00:31:08,830
a plump belly in which she revealed she

839
00:31:08,830 --> 00:31:09,626
was pregnant.

840
00:31:10,198 --> 00:31:13,539
Crowley parsons another notable t occult have used

841
00:31:13,539 --> 00:31:16,005
various females for the role of scarlet woman

842
00:31:16,005 --> 00:31:16,562
over the years.

843
00:31:17,212 --> 00:31:18,959
It is not a stretch to think Rihanna

844
00:31:18,959 --> 00:31:21,578
could be involved in a similar function, but

845
00:31:21,578 --> 00:31:23,721
let's look deeper into this character known as

846
00:31:23,879 --> 00:31:24,197
Rihanna,

847
00:31:25,006 --> 00:31:26,992
To cover all the occult references she has

848
00:31:26,992 --> 00:31:28,580
made over the years would take far too

849
00:31:28,580 --> 00:31:30,805
long, so instead, we'll look at anything that

850
00:31:30,805 --> 00:31:33,585
could associate her with Babylon and the par

851
00:31:33,585 --> 00:31:33,982
workings.

852
00:31:34,554 --> 00:31:36,941
In November of 20 12, she went on

853
00:31:36,941 --> 00:31:40,362
a curiously named tour, the 777

854
00:31:40,362 --> 00:31:40,681
tour.

855
00:31:41,476 --> 00:31:44,993
Rihanna was born 02/20/1988.

856
00:31:45,789 --> 00:31:48,497
That's within that window and curiously the 40

857
00:31:48,497 --> 00:31:51,761
second year anniversary of the original Babylon workings,

858
00:31:52,653 --> 00:31:55,687
42 obviously divisible by 7 as well. It

859
00:31:55,687 --> 00:31:58,082
is a curious name Rihanna, I wonder what

860
00:31:58,082 --> 00:31:59,599
it means. And then you look it up,

861
00:31:59,679 --> 00:32:01,970
the welsh named Rihanna is derived from the

862
00:32:02,089 --> 00:32:02,589
commonly

863
00:32:03,130 --> 00:32:04,250
held female name,

864
00:32:05,049 --> 00:32:05,549
Rio,

865
00:32:05,849 --> 00:32:09,390
meaning great queen and most associated with Rio,

866
00:32:09,609 --> 00:32:10,970
a goddess of fertility,

867
00:32:11,543 --> 00:32:13,077
Okay. Enough. There un

868
00:32:13,691 --> 00:32:15,680
coincidence is linking the last Super Bowl in

869
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,146
the Babylon workings that occurred 77 years.

870
00:32:18,876 --> 00:32:21,333
Before but miles away, as well as bizarre

871
00:32:21,333 --> 00:32:25,083
elements linking both events and ex to Ufo

872
00:32:25,296 --> 00:32:25,796
fever

873
00:32:26,579 --> 00:32:28,800
Well, I think that is really great work.

874
00:32:29,038 --> 00:32:31,815
I remember watching that Super Bowl and immediately

875
00:32:31,815 --> 00:32:33,718
thinking scarlet woman. I mean, that's...

876
00:32:34,369 --> 00:32:37,809
Sync mystic 01:01 being able to recognize something

877
00:32:37,809 --> 00:32:40,529
that basic. And then it being the reveal

878
00:32:40,529 --> 00:32:42,450
of her pregnancy. I was like, oh my

879
00:32:42,450 --> 00:32:45,199
god. This is a match, but I'd never

880
00:32:45,416 --> 00:32:47,649
heard anyone else break it down, especially with

881
00:32:47,649 --> 00:32:50,280
all this detail and all the sevens and

882
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,767
the fact that she was born, within that

883
00:32:52,767 --> 00:32:53,724
window of time,

884
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,747
42 years after the original Babylon working that

885
00:32:58,747 --> 00:33:00,842
her name means great queen

886
00:33:01,392 --> 00:33:02,503
Goddess of fertility.

887
00:33:03,534 --> 00:33:05,836
I mean, jeez, man. This is really great

888
00:33:05,836 --> 00:33:07,820
work. This is an example of what you

889
00:33:07,820 --> 00:33:09,272
were describing earlier.

890
00:33:10,058 --> 00:33:11,013
Anything else to add?

891
00:33:11,809 --> 00:33:15,471
So originally, that came from a Twitter thread

892
00:33:15,471 --> 00:33:17,540
that I did right before the Super Bowl.

893
00:33:17,794 --> 00:33:19,942
And that I incorporated that into it.

894
00:33:20,737 --> 00:33:22,248
And I actually, as always was writing it

895
00:33:22,248 --> 00:33:23,521
up, it was another 1 of these things

896
00:33:23,521 --> 00:33:24,657
of this kind of

897
00:33:25,688 --> 00:33:26,966
very strange, like,

898
00:33:28,085 --> 00:33:30,482
almost rushed from the outside coming in, and

899
00:33:30,482 --> 00:33:31,440
you just go down 1 of these things

900
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:31,920
very strange,

901
00:33:32,732 --> 00:33:33,927
almost symbolic tunnels.

902
00:33:34,565 --> 00:33:37,114
And I actually ended up predicting, and unfortunately,

903
00:33:37,353 --> 00:33:39,265
old Twitter account is banned, but there's still

904
00:33:39,265 --> 00:33:40,778
many who vouch for this. I ended up

905
00:33:40,778 --> 00:33:42,069
predicting the execs score,

906
00:33:42,789 --> 00:33:44,309
finishing score of the Super Bowl. Someone told

907
00:33:44,309 --> 00:33:46,789
they won 5000 dollars off of actually putting

908
00:33:46,789 --> 00:33:48,630
body on it of winning by 3.

909
00:33:49,684 --> 00:33:50,184
So

910
00:33:50,484 --> 00:33:52,404
I I got it pretty much to the

911
00:33:52,404 --> 00:33:54,164
point. Now a lot of people gave me

912
00:33:54,164 --> 00:33:55,684
flack for that, of course, especially on the

913
00:33:55,684 --> 00:33:57,605
more nor side of Twitter, like, this is

914
00:33:57,605 --> 00:34:00,008
insane. Is what they said, like, always this

915
00:34:00,008 --> 00:34:03,347
guy claiming that someone minute neatly planned each

916
00:34:03,347 --> 00:34:05,573
little detail this. Again, that's not the point

917
00:34:05,573 --> 00:34:05,891
at all.

918
00:34:06,779 --> 00:34:09,340
As I was discussing earlier. It is this

919
00:34:09,395 --> 00:34:10,450
idea that

920
00:34:11,377 --> 00:34:13,676
the conspirators in something like this and some

921
00:34:13,676 --> 00:34:15,922
very strange event with these very strange Triumph

922
00:34:15,922 --> 00:34:16,422
schemes

923
00:34:16,878 --> 00:34:19,827
it's not just man, but of a different

924
00:34:19,827 --> 00:34:20,645
powers is

925
00:34:21,022 --> 00:34:24,137
outside of man. Or different deities, basically or

926
00:34:24,137 --> 00:34:26,121
not Deities, anything you wanna call it and

927
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,424
I'm mixing their finger into the soup of

928
00:34:28,424 --> 00:34:29,322
these occurrences,

929
00:34:30,029 --> 00:34:30,667
coming together.

930
00:34:31,625 --> 00:34:34,098
And then these occurrences coming together can domino.

931
00:34:34,577 --> 00:34:36,034
Do these very strange

932
00:34:36,651 --> 00:34:38,820
constellation And that's really the only way I

933
00:34:38,820 --> 00:34:39,459
can describe it.

934
00:34:40,656 --> 00:34:42,891
Yeah. Rhyme schemes is a great term, and

935
00:34:42,891 --> 00:34:44,886
it does feel like if you...

936
00:34:46,338 --> 00:34:47,936
Start playing the tune,

937
00:34:48,975 --> 00:34:50,434
the universe will

938
00:34:50,973 --> 00:34:53,370
finish it for you or contribute to the

939
00:34:53,370 --> 00:34:55,860
music Like, if you start playing the guitar,

940
00:34:56,338 --> 00:34:58,574
the drums get played from the other side

941
00:34:58,574 --> 00:35:00,170
and there's a Symphony created,

942
00:35:00,569 --> 00:35:02,085
a tapestry of these weird,

943
00:35:03,297 --> 00:35:04,755
Sc so simple as

944
00:35:05,213 --> 00:35:05,851
signs, and...

945
00:35:06,808 --> 00:35:09,042
I think it's amazing, but then you start

946
00:35:09,042 --> 00:35:11,288
to ask the question well, it seems like

947
00:35:11,288 --> 00:35:13,356
the only people who do this or have

948
00:35:13,356 --> 00:35:15,504
the power to structure this are people with

949
00:35:15,504 --> 00:35:16,458
dark intentions.

950
00:35:17,428 --> 00:35:18,166
And so

951
00:35:18,780 --> 00:35:21,246
what would be playing with these people, but

952
00:35:21,246 --> 00:35:23,235
you could assume dark entities. So...

953
00:35:24,364 --> 00:35:25,715
Not to say that it has to fit

954
00:35:25,715 --> 00:35:27,465
into the binary or that all this kind

955
00:35:27,465 --> 00:35:29,295
of activity has to be dark because it

956
00:35:29,295 --> 00:35:30,807
also seems somewhat natural.

957
00:35:31,617 --> 00:35:34,244
It's like, you know, gravity isn't dark because

958
00:35:34,244 --> 00:35:36,074
it does what it does. It's like, this

959
00:35:36,074 --> 00:35:36,574
force

960
00:35:36,949 --> 00:35:38,723
is something baked into

961
00:35:39,273 --> 00:35:41,422
Reality that you can play with, but only

962
00:35:41,422 --> 00:35:43,095
dark people seem to play with it, I

963
00:35:43,095 --> 00:35:44,289
guess is what I'm getting at.

964
00:35:45,005 --> 00:35:46,439
I think that would be a very fair

965
00:35:46,439 --> 00:35:48,680
way to put it. I definitely don't want

966
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:49,973
to deny

967
00:35:50,426 --> 00:35:52,173
this darkness that is there,

968
00:35:53,046 --> 00:35:55,428
and there are very dark intentions, kind of

969
00:35:55,428 --> 00:35:56,142
buzzing around,

970
00:35:57,193 --> 00:35:59,028
I wanted to just make 1 point there

971
00:35:59,028 --> 00:36:01,023
for anyone who's probably hearing this and thinking,

972
00:36:02,061 --> 00:36:03,039
why would

973
00:36:03,497 --> 00:36:04,375
say you were some...

974
00:36:05,027 --> 00:36:07,971
Powerful plot or some dark entity, why would

975
00:36:07,971 --> 00:36:09,482
numbers come into this at all.

976
00:36:10,119 --> 00:36:11,652
Well, funny enough and I will

977
00:36:11,963 --> 00:36:13,820
kind of basis. This is a very old

978
00:36:14,197 --> 00:36:16,452
belief. I mean, in fact, going back to

979
00:36:16,909 --> 00:36:17,409
p.

980
00:36:18,265 --> 00:36:19,780
In this kind of synthesis, and we get

981
00:36:19,780 --> 00:36:21,237
a lot of our knowledge of p

982
00:36:22,027 --> 00:36:22,527
from

983
00:36:23,061 --> 00:36:23,219
a,

984
00:36:23,935 --> 00:36:25,309
survived writing of,

985
00:36:25,843 --> 00:36:27,433
sorry for continually going back to these people.

986
00:36:27,592 --> 00:36:28,784
But I think they have a very kind

987
00:36:28,784 --> 00:36:30,374
of solid basis for looking at a lot

988
00:36:30,374 --> 00:36:30,851
of this stuff.

989
00:36:32,454 --> 00:36:33,192
And P

990
00:36:33,724 --> 00:36:35,866
of course added hearing he believed the entire

991
00:36:35,866 --> 00:36:38,168
universe of this underlying numerical symbols is, are

992
00:36:38,168 --> 00:36:39,438
this numerical basis?

993
00:36:40,808 --> 00:36:42,986
And so much so he would apply this

994
00:36:43,285 --> 00:36:45,223
and so did the leader kind of neo

995
00:36:45,362 --> 00:36:46,800
to modes of worship.

996
00:36:47,294 --> 00:36:48,752
Everything for the fact that

997
00:36:49,289 --> 00:36:49,528
say,

998
00:36:50,885 --> 00:36:53,440
Apollo delivered Oracle from a tripod because the

999
00:36:53,519 --> 00:36:55,355
Tri was the first number. Right?

1000
00:36:56,086 --> 00:36:57,201
Were made 3 times Ap

1001
00:36:58,077 --> 00:37:00,465
Received sacrifices is on the sixth day, Aaron.

1002
00:37:01,340 --> 00:37:03,251
Her on the eighth day of the month,

1003
00:37:03,583 --> 00:37:05,250
Bob Blah blah. These numbers were kind of

1004
00:37:05,250 --> 00:37:06,940
baked in. There's a very interesting

1005
00:37:08,265 --> 00:37:10,407
association that I've only heard Gregory Shaw. I

1006
00:37:10,407 --> 00:37:11,597
believe was his name talk about.

1007
00:37:12,725 --> 00:37:13,861
Have you heard the

1008
00:37:14,316 --> 00:37:14,816
ted

1009
00:37:15,510 --> 00:37:17,180
this kind of p symbol?

1010
00:37:18,294 --> 00:37:20,457
Think of like that rows of une equal

1011
00:37:20,457 --> 00:37:20,957
numbers

1012
00:37:21,570 --> 00:37:23,400
in this kind of triangular shape. So it'll

1013
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,548
be 1 at the top and 2, like

1014
00:37:25,548 --> 00:37:25,786
dots.

1015
00:37:26,677 --> 00:37:29,382
The 1 dot the 2 under 3 4.

1016
00:37:30,018 --> 00:37:32,826
It was a strange cryptic formula only incomprehensible

1017
00:37:33,041 --> 00:37:34,098
to kind the p

1018
00:37:34,633 --> 00:37:35,030
initiated.

1019
00:37:35,763 --> 00:37:37,916
But with strange is this word ne and

1020
00:37:38,076 --> 00:37:41,266
Greek, the ted reminds us of the Pig,

1021
00:37:41,505 --> 00:37:43,840
which was the tri of different sac

1022
00:37:44,217 --> 00:37:44,616
animals.

1023
00:37:45,268 --> 00:37:45,768
In

1024
00:37:46,146 --> 00:37:48,798
basically the Greek sac

1025
00:37:49,335 --> 00:37:51,328
tradition that try at a different kind of.

1026
00:37:51,647 --> 00:37:53,582
Your genus is a sac animals

1027
00:37:54,608 --> 00:37:57,544
So basically the idea is that there's a

1028
00:37:57,544 --> 00:37:59,790
connection between these kind of numerical sacrifices

1029
00:38:00,322 --> 00:38:02,409
and the sacrificing of actual

1030
00:38:02,718 --> 00:38:04,150
beings of flesh and blood.

1031
00:38:05,581 --> 00:38:07,889
Basically, the p bios,

1032
00:38:08,843 --> 00:38:10,378
which is order part of this kind of

1033
00:38:10,753 --> 00:38:13,634
bios, to find a continuity of worship extending

1034
00:38:13,634 --> 00:38:14,931
from blood sacrifice

1035
00:38:15,387 --> 00:38:17,776
to the sacrifice of numbers. But the idea

1036
00:38:17,776 --> 00:38:19,528
is even going back from these earliest kind

1037
00:38:19,528 --> 00:38:20,028
of

1038
00:38:20,658 --> 00:38:23,067
the Usa. There's a continuity between

1039
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,588
blood sacrifice and numerical sacrifice.

1040
00:38:26,224 --> 00:38:27,735
So there would be some kind of ancient

1041
00:38:27,735 --> 00:38:28,212
basis.

1042
00:38:29,181 --> 00:38:32,624
Wiring these strange miracles and ethnicities into things

1043
00:38:33,715 --> 00:38:35,170
into these strange events

1044
00:38:35,957 --> 00:38:37,862
I know you don't have to use Hoffman

1045
00:38:37,862 --> 00:38:40,243
term of mass ritual, we could say, as

1046
00:38:40,401 --> 00:38:41,909
I like to put it public performances.

1047
00:38:43,275 --> 00:38:45,515
So there is a basis. There's this mer

1048
00:38:45,515 --> 00:38:46,015
fix.

1049
00:38:46,474 --> 00:38:47,934
That's almost as old as man

1050
00:38:48,715 --> 00:38:50,474
for connecting with different.

1051
00:38:51,369 --> 00:38:51,609
Know,

1052
00:38:52,328 --> 00:38:54,086
demons entities whatever you wanna put it?

1053
00:38:55,125 --> 00:38:55,445
Sure.

1054
00:38:56,084 --> 00:38:56,584
So

1055
00:38:56,963 --> 00:38:59,680
before we move on to And S, I

1056
00:38:59,680 --> 00:38:59,840
guess,

1057
00:39:00,494 --> 00:39:01,394
since I did

1058
00:39:01,853 --> 00:39:04,409
read out all those details of that ritual.

1059
00:39:04,489 --> 00:39:06,806
If we use that 1 as an example,

1060
00:39:07,366 --> 00:39:07,845
I always...

1061
00:39:08,498 --> 00:39:10,112
Like to reverse engineer

1062
00:39:10,487 --> 00:39:12,260
how it might have happened. Some

1063
00:39:12,794 --> 00:39:15,261
source out there that are employed by the

1064
00:39:15,261 --> 00:39:16,931
elite would look at this and say, well,

1065
00:39:17,664 --> 00:39:18,704
the dates coming up.

1066
00:39:19,425 --> 00:39:22,565
Here's an opportunity to load it with our

1067
00:39:23,105 --> 00:39:25,125
potent symbolism in the right numero.

1068
00:39:25,759 --> 00:39:27,903
And we can, of course, structure the halftime

1069
00:39:27,903 --> 00:39:28,800
time show

1070
00:39:29,174 --> 00:39:29,674
to

1071
00:39:30,286 --> 00:39:31,001
honor that.

1072
00:39:31,795 --> 00:39:33,486
They could probably even

1073
00:39:34,352 --> 00:39:36,023
structure the score of the game,

1074
00:39:36,898 --> 00:39:39,523
they could probably even plan out who scores

1075
00:39:39,523 --> 00:39:40,477
the winning touchdown.

1076
00:39:41,129 --> 00:39:43,681
These are all degrees of control over which

1077
00:39:43,681 --> 00:39:46,074
you could exact. And then the more my

1078
00:39:46,074 --> 00:39:48,148
new stuff is then taken care of. You

1079
00:39:48,148 --> 00:39:49,105
know what I mean It was like he

1080
00:39:49,105 --> 00:39:51,753
were saying earlier, this idea of hey hate

1081
00:39:51,753 --> 00:39:54,307
using his turn, but more sc research or

1082
00:39:54,307 --> 00:39:56,621
just paying attention to things. Once you start

1083
00:39:56,621 --> 00:39:58,457
to, you get the ball rolling, something else

1084
00:39:58,457 --> 00:40:00,386
comes in and flesh it. This is the

1085
00:40:00,386 --> 00:40:02,378
same way I kind of view maybe something

1086
00:40:02,378 --> 00:40:04,449
like this. Some kind of mass ritual is

1087
00:40:04,449 --> 00:40:06,601
when they've set the intention, they...

1088
00:40:08,208 --> 00:40:09,584
They cook up the spells

1089
00:40:10,278 --> 00:40:12,610
and they get the basics right, then something

1090
00:40:13,224 --> 00:40:14,737
fills in into more of my new details

1091
00:40:14,737 --> 00:40:17,215
for them. That's how the weather becomes 77

1092
00:40:17,215 --> 00:40:17,374
degrees.

1093
00:40:18,327 --> 00:40:18,565
Now,

1094
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,058
you say obviously with most rituals, you set

1095
00:40:22,058 --> 00:40:25,259
the intention. And So practically, I just kinda

1096
00:40:25,259 --> 00:40:26,478
laid out and you

1097
00:40:26,856 --> 00:40:29,750
confirmed kind of how it could probably be

1098
00:40:29,808 --> 00:40:31,005
done or at least started.

1099
00:40:31,498 --> 00:40:33,964
But now what would be the intention? Why

1100
00:40:33,964 --> 00:40:34,464
would

1101
00:40:34,998 --> 00:40:37,805
the people who run reality?

1102
00:40:38,829 --> 00:40:41,865
Care about this such thing. Obviously, the Babylon

1103
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,138
working is loaded with all kinds of symbolism,

1104
00:40:44,296 --> 00:40:47,019
but it's implied they must have some value

1105
00:40:47,019 --> 00:40:49,099
or see some value in the original Babylon

1106
00:40:49,099 --> 00:40:50,079
working to even

1107
00:40:50,539 --> 00:40:52,320
tie these events together, but

1108
00:40:52,619 --> 00:40:55,433
what do they get out of structuring all

1109
00:40:55,433 --> 00:40:57,670
this. What is achieved and also why the

1110
00:40:57,830 --> 00:40:58,709
Ufo tie?

1111
00:40:59,908 --> 00:41:01,586
I think that is kind of the grand

1112
00:41:01,586 --> 00:41:02,385
question, isn't it?

1113
00:41:03,198 --> 00:41:05,271
And we can theo on it, and I

1114
00:41:05,271 --> 00:41:06,388
certainly have life theories.

1115
00:41:07,106 --> 00:41:09,019
I think man manly People hall had a

1116
00:41:09,019 --> 00:41:11,811
great quote. And its symbols are miraculous forms.

1117
00:41:12,543 --> 00:41:14,321
Mysterious patterns creating v

1118
00:41:14,859 --> 00:41:17,333
and the substances of the invisible world. They

1119
00:41:17,333 --> 00:41:20,207
are centers of a mighty force, figures pregnant

1120
00:41:20,207 --> 00:41:23,031
with an awful power. Which when properly fashioned

1121
00:41:23,325 --> 00:41:24,778
whose fiery world ones

1122
00:41:25,151 --> 00:41:28,827
upon the earth. Again, I believe these ritual

1123
00:41:30,088 --> 00:41:32,573
events or, you know, these public performances.

1124
00:41:33,344 --> 00:41:35,035
I have the power to

1125
00:41:35,488 --> 00:41:36,996
change things in very strange ways.

1126
00:41:38,045 --> 00:41:38,784
I think

1127
00:41:39,636 --> 00:41:40,852
it doesn't always

1128
00:41:41,943 --> 00:41:43,636
have to have an exact

1129
00:41:44,981 --> 00:41:47,049
gold behind it. In the sense, it's not

1130
00:41:47,049 --> 00:41:48,878
like, you know, doctor Faust,

1131
00:41:49,912 --> 00:41:50,412
summon

1132
00:41:50,787 --> 00:41:52,972
something so he can get a mortal over

1133
00:41:53,108 --> 00:41:54,959
life. And this isn't just, like, a purely

1134
00:41:55,174 --> 00:41:57,161
transactional thing. Like, they aren't staging some big,

1135
00:41:58,115 --> 00:42:01,786
ritual, and event purely for a transactional goal.

1136
00:42:02,025 --> 00:42:03,377
I do this, I get this.

1137
00:42:04,410 --> 00:42:06,954
I believe it was from Elvis Levi who

1138
00:42:06,954 --> 00:42:08,408
put it this way that

1139
00:42:08,956 --> 00:42:12,637
When magic is done, the only pure intention

1140
00:42:13,409 --> 00:42:16,033
is for the act itself. I think there

1141
00:42:16,033 --> 00:42:16,533
is

1142
00:42:16,842 --> 00:42:19,465
a strange satisfaction. I think anyone's dabble the

1143
00:42:19,465 --> 00:42:22,327
occult to tell you this and simply performing

1144
00:42:22,327 --> 00:42:24,210
these things because they can. And there is

1145
00:42:24,647 --> 00:42:25,784
almost like a per

1146
00:42:27,592 --> 00:42:28,092
radiation

1147
00:42:28,866 --> 00:42:30,378
that happens in these kind of things. I

1148
00:42:30,378 --> 00:42:31,971
think Like can inverted the off.

1149
00:42:33,259 --> 00:42:34,872
This out pouring

1150
00:42:35,724 --> 00:42:37,872
of, I think energy really is the only

1151
00:42:37,872 --> 00:42:38,509
word for it.

1152
00:42:39,717 --> 00:42:41,070
I think there's a lot of people, even

1153
00:42:41,070 --> 00:42:43,059
normal people on the block who, if you

1154
00:42:43,059 --> 00:42:44,275
told them, you could

1155
00:42:44,730 --> 00:42:46,401
stage some kind of mass ritual,

1156
00:42:47,134 --> 00:42:49,209
is power trip is rush of it, in

1157
00:42:49,209 --> 00:42:50,646
a very strange sense.

1158
00:42:52,003 --> 00:42:53,919
I think that is about as far as

1159
00:42:53,919 --> 00:42:55,356
we can go with it, but I also

1160
00:42:55,356 --> 00:42:55,809
think

1161
00:42:56,168 --> 00:42:58,395
On a more practical side, it's a sense

1162
00:42:58,395 --> 00:42:59,031
of signaling.

1163
00:42:59,747 --> 00:43:01,895
To other people with a wink and nod.

1164
00:43:03,183 --> 00:43:05,175
Yeah. I think that makes a lot of

1165
00:43:05,175 --> 00:43:07,884
sense, and we do just kinda have to

1166
00:43:07,884 --> 00:43:09,955
leave it at that. We can recognize it

1167
00:43:09,955 --> 00:43:13,245
without really being able to fully explain every

1168
00:43:13,245 --> 00:43:15,402
aspect of it and the intention behind it.

1169
00:43:15,483 --> 00:43:17,695
But, yeah, it could just be a flex

1170
00:43:17,894 --> 00:43:20,528
or 1 cult letting another cult, hey. We

1171
00:43:20,528 --> 00:43:21,726
still run the show around here.

1172
00:43:22,444 --> 00:43:25,659
And Okay. Exactly. Let's jump over to this

1173
00:43:25,717 --> 00:43:27,909
between Za and Ba

1174
00:43:28,446 --> 00:43:30,121
series of posts. We're not gonna be able

1175
00:43:30,121 --> 00:43:32,994
to complete the circuit in the first hour

1176
00:43:32,994 --> 00:43:35,241
because this is dense stuff. You connect all

1177
00:43:35,241 --> 00:43:37,940
sorts of material here information about the polls,

1178
00:43:39,052 --> 00:43:42,228
consist across hall earth stories that speaks to

1179
00:43:42,228 --> 00:43:42,387
me,

1180
00:43:43,039 --> 00:43:44,898
cultural echoes of At,

1181
00:43:45,677 --> 00:43:47,115
stories of the mythic north,

1182
00:43:47,675 --> 00:43:48,175
mysteries

1183
00:43:48,634 --> 00:43:49,134
of

1184
00:43:49,753 --> 00:43:52,170
tibetan monks and the himalayas and cataclysm,

1185
00:43:53,517 --> 00:43:56,214
that's kind of the threads that you tie

1186
00:43:56,214 --> 00:43:57,880
together here, but give us a bit of

1187
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,284
an overview of this thesis.

1188
00:44:01,070 --> 00:44:03,390
And then we can get deeper into the

1189
00:44:03,390 --> 00:44:05,230
supporting evidence with the rest of the time

1190
00:44:05,230 --> 00:44:05,470
we have.

1191
00:44:06,590 --> 00:44:09,470
Okay. So, in fact, this series itself is

1192
00:44:09,470 --> 00:44:09,789
unfinished.

1193
00:44:10,363 --> 00:44:12,351
As many as my series tend to be,

1194
00:44:12,987 --> 00:44:15,292
but I will finish it. And I can

1195
00:44:15,292 --> 00:44:16,484
give you a taste at the end of

1196
00:44:16,484 --> 00:44:18,567
this of where I am getting. So from

1197
00:44:18,567 --> 00:44:22,014
the title alone between Za doo and Sham.

1198
00:44:22,788 --> 00:44:24,700
If anyone is familiar with Za Do, this

1199
00:44:24,700 --> 00:44:26,691
is a reference to a poem by.

1200
00:44:27,342 --> 00:44:29,723
I think 1 of the greatest geniuses and

1201
00:44:29,723 --> 00:44:30,223
mystic

1202
00:44:30,675 --> 00:44:34,168
of the last 500 years, Samuel Taylor C.

1203
00:44:35,456 --> 00:44:36,355
Za Do

1204
00:44:37,130 --> 00:44:39,043
is part of this poem that goes was

1205
00:44:39,043 --> 00:44:40,478
in the at least the beginning of it.

1206
00:44:40,876 --> 00:44:43,120
And Za Due did Coup calling is state

1207
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,025
pleasure dome decree were a, the sacred of

1208
00:44:45,025 --> 00:44:47,960
river iran through Cavern me man, down to

1209
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:48,753
a sun sea.

1210
00:44:49,388 --> 00:44:50,657
I won't read the entire thing,

1211
00:44:51,388 --> 00:44:53,003
But this has always been a poem

1212
00:44:53,697 --> 00:44:54,733
that is stuck with me.

1213
00:44:55,450 --> 00:44:57,998
The first time I heard it. Actually, this

1214
00:44:57,998 --> 00:44:59,193
is something I don't think a lot of

1215
00:44:59,193 --> 00:44:59,932
people know

1216
00:45:00,322 --> 00:45:02,709
is I came across it and a book

1217
00:45:02,709 --> 00:45:03,902
on Teddy Roosevelt.

1218
00:45:04,697 --> 00:45:06,709
I believe it was called the river of

1219
00:45:07,496 --> 00:45:07,735
doubt.

1220
00:45:08,610 --> 00:45:10,360
Could be the river of hope. I have

1221
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,110
to check on that, but it was about

1222
00:45:12,110 --> 00:45:13,621
after he lost the election,

1223
00:45:14,672 --> 00:45:16,184
My guess, Woodrow Wilson when he was running

1224
00:45:16,184 --> 00:45:17,379
in his bull moose spotty,

1225
00:45:18,175 --> 00:45:19,609
and he went down, you know, he was

1226
00:45:19,609 --> 00:45:21,463
just very kind strapping pricing

1227
00:45:21,838 --> 00:45:22,077
adventure.

1228
00:45:22,888 --> 00:45:24,659
Portrayed is a very vital man

1229
00:45:25,193 --> 00:45:27,259
and to the Amazon Basin to go exploring.

1230
00:45:27,974 --> 00:45:29,801
For this kind of uncharted river.

1231
00:45:30,852 --> 00:45:32,368
And at the very end of it, he

1232
00:45:32,368 --> 00:45:33,085
gets cut,

1233
00:45:33,724 --> 00:45:36,356
and he develops his fever, and he goes

1234
00:45:36,356 --> 00:45:38,030
into this... This is real, and he goes

1235
00:45:38,030 --> 00:45:39,786
into this fever dream. As they're carrying him

1236
00:45:39,786 --> 00:45:40,079
out

1237
00:45:40,597 --> 00:45:43,625
and he just keeps repeating. And Za dude

1238
00:45:43,705 --> 00:45:46,175
K car, the state pleasure dome to decree.

1239
00:45:46,653 --> 00:45:49,521
Over and over again, like 2 days.

1240
00:45:50,573 --> 00:45:52,409
And, you know, anytime I hear something like

1241
00:45:52,409 --> 00:45:55,202
this. Would figure especially president, is very kind

1242
00:45:55,202 --> 00:45:57,836
strange under current. I know there's something there.

1243
00:45:57,996 --> 00:45:59,688
On flu last 10 years, I've known there

1244
00:45:59,688 --> 00:46:01,366
was something even stranger there.

1245
00:46:02,484 --> 00:46:04,641
But before we even approached this, where I

1246
00:46:04,641 --> 00:46:05,920
am going with this entire series,

1247
00:46:06,494 --> 00:46:09,388
is I believe that Samuel Taylor Ko

1248
00:46:09,766 --> 00:46:13,039
had a mystic visionary experience in the same

1249
00:46:13,039 --> 00:46:16,324
way that Saint Eve did, the French mystic

1250
00:46:16,324 --> 00:46:18,078
who had a vision of,

1251
00:46:19,513 --> 00:46:22,065
of this realm and inner Earth, and there's

1252
00:46:22,065 --> 00:46:23,282
a remarkable correspondence

1253
00:46:24,150 --> 00:46:25,126
appearance with

1254
00:46:25,498 --> 00:46:26,530
c poem,

1255
00:46:27,641 --> 00:46:28,141
and

1256
00:46:28,672 --> 00:46:30,362
these other mystical

1257
00:46:31,546 --> 00:46:32,023
vision,

1258
00:46:32,818 --> 00:46:35,205
experiences seeing into a realm of inner earth.

1259
00:46:36,557 --> 00:46:38,728
So Ko was infamous

1260
00:46:39,103 --> 00:46:39,603
for

1261
00:46:39,913 --> 00:46:42,527
having this kind of Opium addiction. And so

1262
00:46:42,686 --> 00:46:45,855
Ko said that this poem came to him

1263
00:46:45,855 --> 00:46:46,647
in an Opium tree,

1264
00:46:47,459 --> 00:46:49,216
and there was thousands of lines of it

1265
00:46:49,216 --> 00:46:50,814
that came to him. He had this vision

1266
00:46:50,814 --> 00:46:51,613
of this place.

1267
00:46:52,253 --> 00:46:54,010
And again, if you read the Polymers, he's

1268
00:46:54,010 --> 00:46:54,250
very,

1269
00:46:55,141 --> 00:46:57,130
communities very sub, and we can go into

1270
00:46:57,130 --> 00:46:59,358
a war about relates to Ga stories of

1271
00:46:59,438 --> 00:47:01,666
S later, but he awoke from the stream,

1272
00:47:02,559 --> 00:47:05,039
And this person on business from Poor lock

1273
00:47:05,039 --> 00:47:07,219
as they call it, the kind of infamous

1274
00:47:07,359 --> 00:47:09,440
term literature for someone who interrupts a great

1275
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,445
work. He was interrupted by a person on

1276
00:47:11,445 --> 00:47:12,161
business from Poor.

1277
00:47:12,956 --> 00:47:14,786
After this guy finished speaking to him He

1278
00:47:14,786 --> 00:47:16,297
forgot almost all of it except for these

1279
00:47:16,297 --> 00:47:16,536
lines.

1280
00:47:17,189 --> 00:47:19,104
They say it's the greatest tragedy. There was

1281
00:47:19,104 --> 00:47:20,701
1 English professor said if anyone deserves to

1282
00:47:20,701 --> 00:47:21,977
be killed on earth there was the person

1283
00:47:21,977 --> 00:47:23,195
on visits from Portland.

1284
00:47:23,813 --> 00:47:25,010
Be ruining this great word of.

1285
00:47:26,063 --> 00:47:28,378
But for any of our audiences two's familiar

1286
00:47:28,378 --> 00:47:30,852
with Schwab on some Schwab decks work.

1287
00:47:32,050 --> 00:47:33,806
Schwab brings up these idea of the men

1288
00:47:33,806 --> 00:47:35,357
in black. Or these

1289
00:47:35,892 --> 00:47:38,702
entities that appear after some kind of

1290
00:47:39,317 --> 00:47:41,626
strange experience that happens. Maybe he calls beings

1291
00:47:41,626 --> 00:47:43,793
of pure media. Right? And they kind of

1292
00:47:43,793 --> 00:47:44,752
come to clean things up.

1293
00:47:46,270 --> 00:47:46,770
Basically.

1294
00:47:47,469 --> 00:47:50,185
And so what's very interesting. And my theory

1295
00:47:50,185 --> 00:47:52,351
is that Samuel taylor ko which was a

1296
00:47:52,351 --> 00:47:54,419
visionary in this way, and he was interrupted

1297
00:47:54,419 --> 00:47:56,248
by 1 of these beings of pure media,

1298
00:47:56,328 --> 00:47:57,601
the person business from Poor luck.

1299
00:47:58,653 --> 00:48:00,251
Especially because if you look up poor lock,

1300
00:48:00,811 --> 00:48:02,349
it's famous for these

1301
00:48:02,728 --> 00:48:05,206
stone circles, these almost ferry mounts that are

1302
00:48:05,206 --> 00:48:06,818
right in the area, And if we look

1303
00:48:06,818 --> 00:48:09,074
at someone will bring up later, mister

1304
00:48:10,411 --> 00:48:11,449
on the tip of my tongue here,

1305
00:48:12,806 --> 00:48:15,440
our great Russian explorer and painter,

1306
00:48:16,174 --> 00:48:18,808
Ro rich, Nicholas Roe. Roar. Yes. Of course,

1307
00:48:19,207 --> 00:48:21,383
Nicholas Roe has this larry long passage

1308
00:48:21,841 --> 00:48:23,757
in his book on Sham.

1309
00:48:24,156 --> 00:48:24,475
Where he...

1310
00:48:25,126 --> 00:48:26,102
Immediately equates

1311
00:48:26,474 --> 00:48:27,529
these various tom

1312
00:48:27,980 --> 00:48:31,310
all across Central Asia and these stone circles,

1313
00:48:31,706 --> 00:48:32,444
and he

1314
00:48:32,912 --> 00:48:34,980
Explicitly equates them with the ones in England,

1315
00:48:35,458 --> 00:48:36,810
and these various ones like the ones in

1316
00:48:36,969 --> 00:48:38,639
Poor look, but whatever I'm getting ahead of

1317
00:48:38,639 --> 00:48:38,958
myself here.

1318
00:48:39,927 --> 00:48:41,202
That is kind of where I'm going with

1319
00:48:41,202 --> 00:48:42,635
the series, and we'll get into that for

1320
00:48:42,635 --> 00:48:44,626
any of my subs readers listening now.

1321
00:48:45,263 --> 00:48:46,457
That was a little teach free of where

1322
00:48:46,457 --> 00:48:47,891
that article series is going.

1323
00:48:48,543 --> 00:48:49,997
But we can continue with

1324
00:48:50,452 --> 00:48:52,202
why I decided to focus on this?

1325
00:48:53,077 --> 00:48:54,747
In between Ana And Sham,

1326
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:57,099
is I think

1327
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:00,679
myself, and I think many others like me.

1328
00:49:01,559 --> 00:49:04,280
You know, as children, we were fascinated. And

1329
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:05,888
remember Exactly where it was.

1330
00:49:06,525 --> 00:49:08,434
I think the first we ever saw Peter's,

1331
00:49:09,229 --> 00:49:10,525
was Disney's At lan

1332
00:49:10,900 --> 00:49:11,615
with my father.

1333
00:49:12,346 --> 00:49:14,653
And there was something that captivated bay on

1334
00:49:14,653 --> 00:49:17,199
such a deep and prime almost spiritual level

1335
00:49:17,199 --> 00:49:19,603
about this Disney production. You know, I mean,

1336
00:49:19,683 --> 00:49:21,122
what kind of ear head am? I'm falling

1337
00:49:21,122 --> 00:49:24,078
into a spiritual experience from Walt Disney. But

1338
00:49:24,078 --> 00:49:26,715
funny enough as I'm sure most of your

1339
00:49:26,715 --> 00:49:27,435
listeners know.

1340
00:49:28,249 --> 00:49:30,646
At lan as a concept is extremely old.

1341
00:49:31,445 --> 00:49:34,242
It goes back to Plato, this idea of

1342
00:49:34,242 --> 00:49:35,680
this realm that was sunk.

1343
00:49:36,411 --> 00:49:39,032
To put it su sing. It's basically the

1344
00:49:39,032 --> 00:49:41,574
idea that there was a high cold prehistoric

1345
00:49:41,574 --> 00:49:44,115
times. Something about this, I think really speaks

1346
00:49:44,115 --> 00:49:45,386
to us on the level.

1347
00:49:46,037 --> 00:49:47,786
That were being lied to on our pre

1348
00:49:47,786 --> 00:49:48,104
history.

1349
00:49:49,217 --> 00:49:51,681
But 1 other just interesting little tidbit here

1350
00:49:51,681 --> 00:49:51,920
on,

1351
00:49:52,873 --> 00:49:54,304
apparently, I only found this out recently in

1352
00:49:54,304 --> 00:49:57,665
that movie. The language they're speaking Language was

1353
00:49:57,665 --> 00:50:00,556
actually constructed by a very renowned ph pathologist

1354
00:50:00,932 --> 00:50:02,846
who constructed the language on Ind European.

1355
00:50:03,657 --> 00:50:05,168
On what we know of the Ind European

1356
00:50:05,168 --> 00:50:07,156
language group. So there is some real basis

1357
00:50:07,156 --> 00:50:08,349
to this stuff going on there.

1358
00:50:09,224 --> 00:50:11,371
Okay. But onto the point I'm getting at

1359
00:50:11,371 --> 00:50:11,530
here.

1360
00:50:12,814 --> 00:50:13,789
I believe

1361
00:50:14,874 --> 00:50:16,617
I think like probably many other of your

1362
00:50:16,617 --> 00:50:17,593
listeners here

1363
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:18,860
that

1364
00:50:19,248 --> 00:50:20,918
we are being lied to or not even

1365
00:50:20,918 --> 00:50:23,066
so much partly lied to, but we have

1366
00:50:23,066 --> 00:50:25,691
a very incomplete idea of man's pre history.

1367
00:50:27,058 --> 00:50:29,125
But I take it even more extreme direction.

1368
00:50:30,238 --> 00:50:33,657
I think the entire idea of human evolution.

1369
00:50:34,628 --> 00:50:35,128
Is

1370
00:50:36,943 --> 00:50:38,859
completely bogus, and I'm not saying that. A

1371
00:50:38,859 --> 00:50:41,493
lot of people will hear someone critique evolution

1372
00:50:41,493 --> 00:50:42,985
think I'm coming from some

1373
00:50:43,580 --> 00:50:44,239
creation is

1374
00:50:45,089 --> 00:50:46,756
thing I'm spewing out here. No. That's not

1375
00:50:46,756 --> 00:50:49,797
it at all. I actually believe that mankind

1376
00:50:50,092 --> 00:50:51,783
is a product of a kind of extreme

1377
00:50:51,997 --> 00:50:52,077
degeneration.

1378
00:50:52,968 --> 00:50:55,122
That many of these myths were correct and

1379
00:50:55,122 --> 00:50:57,696
that we were were at least spawned from

1380
00:50:58,074 --> 00:50:59,271
much more superior beings.

1381
00:51:00,081 --> 00:51:02,227
And that we have been d generating and

1382
00:51:02,227 --> 00:51:04,612
why this is so dangerous is because the

1383
00:51:04,612 --> 00:51:06,837
entirety of kind of modern du is based

1384
00:51:06,837 --> 00:51:08,800
on this idea of societal progression

1385
00:51:09,476 --> 00:51:12,023
that every generation is getting better. Yeah. We

1386
00:51:12,023 --> 00:51:14,491
are on the straight and narrow the happy

1387
00:51:14,491 --> 00:51:16,561
happy sunshine. Of course, is kind.

1388
00:51:17,291 --> 00:51:19,275
A galen idea of progression. And I think

1389
00:51:19,275 --> 00:51:21,260
that's completely false, and I think it's a

1390
00:51:21,260 --> 00:51:22,689
lie. And I think it's a lie that

1391
00:51:22,689 --> 00:51:24,356
needs to be shattered. And 1 more thing

1392
00:51:24,356 --> 00:51:25,626
on this before we continue,

1393
00:51:27,552 --> 00:51:28,986
A very good friend of mine on Twitter,

1394
00:51:29,305 --> 00:51:30,898
the p. I think he's 1 of the

1395
00:51:30,898 --> 00:51:33,049
most Indulge that I've ever met. He was

1396
00:51:33,049 --> 00:51:34,483
actually the 1 who first introduced me to

1397
00:51:34,483 --> 00:51:35,041
a lot of this.

1398
00:51:35,851 --> 00:51:37,621
But the way he broke it down forming

1399
00:51:38,232 --> 00:51:39,050
of why

1400
00:51:39,899 --> 00:51:41,034
you can just kind of

1401
00:51:41,408 --> 00:51:43,909
dis disprove the entire idea of human

1402
00:51:44,924 --> 00:51:47,796
linear progression in an incline, right at face

1403
00:51:47,796 --> 00:51:49,312
value is when you think about it from

1404
00:51:49,312 --> 00:51:50,110
a language standpoint.

1405
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,566
And in recorded history, we really have no

1406
00:51:54,099 --> 00:51:55,529
records of language,

1407
00:51:56,085 --> 00:51:57,357
like a vernacular language,

1408
00:51:58,488 --> 00:52:00,723
organically becoming more advanced or more complicated.

1409
00:52:01,122 --> 00:52:02,559
It's always the opposite direction.

1410
00:52:03,277 --> 00:52:06,471
The amount of cases and d that greek

1411
00:52:06,471 --> 00:52:06,971
had

1412
00:52:07,364 --> 00:52:10,155
or and then even the latin and just

1413
00:52:10,155 --> 00:52:11,909
seeing how organically these things,

1414
00:52:12,707 --> 00:52:15,737
they don't get more complex, they simplify. They

1415
00:52:15,737 --> 00:52:16,476
get easier

1416
00:52:16,789 --> 00:52:18,867
and the idea that this also reflects a

1417
00:52:18,867 --> 00:52:23,102
kind of physiological difference, a physiological degeneration, a

1418
00:52:23,102 --> 00:52:24,700
physiological simplicity and even our brains.

1419
00:52:25,353 --> 00:52:27,826
Right? And the plethora for my friend would

1420
00:52:27,826 --> 00:52:28,645
say that

1421
00:52:29,102 --> 00:52:31,495
it's just proves that the myths are all

1422
00:52:31,495 --> 00:52:33,329
correct, and human and beings aren't language. Some

1423
00:52:33,409 --> 00:52:34,127
God like figures.

1424
00:52:34,845 --> 00:52:35,918
What it's the

1425
00:52:36,454 --> 00:52:38,149
Babylon fish of

1426
00:52:38,525 --> 00:52:40,039
Y. Right? Or

1427
00:52:40,915 --> 00:52:42,588
if you wanna go for the Christian perspective,

1428
00:52:42,827 --> 00:52:46,027
right of got himself. Whether The idea that

1429
00:52:46,027 --> 00:52:47,800
this can just come out of a vacuum

1430
00:52:48,175 --> 00:52:50,879
that these complex forms of speech can just

1431
00:52:50,879 --> 00:52:52,231
come out of a vacuum and become even

1432
00:52:52,231 --> 00:52:52,969
more complicated.

1433
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:54,797
And then know at some point it just

1434
00:52:54,797 --> 00:52:57,434
started to decline. Oh, that either says that

1435
00:52:57,434 --> 00:52:58,253
human beings

1436
00:52:58,792 --> 00:53:01,203
were on an inc incline in terms of

1437
00:53:01,203 --> 00:53:03,358
our own physiological complexity and our own brain

1438
00:53:03,358 --> 00:53:05,114
power and then just something happened and we're

1439
00:53:05,114 --> 00:53:07,108
on the decline, or it's always been on

1440
00:53:07,108 --> 00:53:07,588
the decline.

1441
00:53:09,357 --> 00:53:10,393
And I hope that made sense.

1442
00:53:11,429 --> 00:53:14,717
Yeah. It does. And we are talking about

1443
00:53:14,775 --> 00:53:15,412
a dense.

1444
00:53:16,545 --> 00:53:17,445
Kind of cosmology

1445
00:53:17,824 --> 00:53:20,144
that you've crafted or pieced together from a

1446
00:53:20,144 --> 00:53:21,984
lot of other material and it's really tough

1447
00:53:21,984 --> 00:53:23,744
to know where an audience is.

1448
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:26,079
That you're not familiar with, and, of course,

1449
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:28,659
even the idea that the entire audience is

1450
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:30,260
on the same page is

1451
00:53:30,639 --> 00:53:32,295
fallacy to begin with, but

1452
00:53:32,814 --> 00:53:35,930
Obviously, At, we have this cultural history or

1453
00:53:35,930 --> 00:53:39,446
this cultural memory. It seems of a high

1454
00:53:39,446 --> 00:53:40,645
society in the ancient past.

1455
00:53:41,458 --> 00:53:44,651
And we know hollow earth floor pretty well

1456
00:53:44,651 --> 00:53:47,923
around here, and we've digested some stories of

1457
00:53:47,923 --> 00:53:50,910
the mythic north and Mount. Mar and Hyper.

1458
00:53:51,842 --> 00:53:53,433
And the idea that at the north pole,

1459
00:53:53,592 --> 00:53:56,670
there is this magnetic mountain that is Mar

1460
00:53:57,264 --> 00:53:58,161
kind of mystical

1461
00:53:59,009 --> 00:54:02,103
and maybe that's where people initially came from.

1462
00:54:02,262 --> 00:54:04,483
There are threads to that. Well,

1463
00:54:05,849 --> 00:54:09,054
What I think is really interesting about this

1464
00:54:09,667 --> 00:54:11,679
cosmology of yours is

1465
00:54:12,230 --> 00:54:14,150
If I was to summarize it with a

1466
00:54:14,150 --> 00:54:14,650
phrase

1467
00:54:15,349 --> 00:54:17,110
or a paragraph of yours, you say,

1468
00:54:17,829 --> 00:54:19,130
among ancient authors

1469
00:54:19,683 --> 00:54:22,251
there was an agreement that the earth's current

1470
00:54:22,387 --> 00:54:24,636
position with its ax acetyl tilt

1471
00:54:25,010 --> 00:54:25,828
is an abe,

1472
00:54:26,203 --> 00:54:29,199
The result of some calamity both physical and

1473
00:54:29,478 --> 00:54:29,638
spiritual.

1474
00:54:30,356 --> 00:54:32,668
Without an ax axle tilt, the earth would

1475
00:54:32,668 --> 00:54:35,219
not experience seasonal change as we know it

1476
00:54:35,219 --> 00:54:36,974
for there would be a constant amount of

1477
00:54:36,974 --> 00:54:39,400
sunlight throughout the year, It would be a

1478
00:54:39,535 --> 00:54:41,758
perpetual e, the length of day and night

1479
00:54:41,758 --> 00:54:45,117
being completely equal, something that only occurs twice

1480
00:54:45,172 --> 00:54:46,761
on the planet with an ax tilt such

1481
00:54:46,761 --> 00:54:47,237
as ours.

1482
00:54:47,808 --> 00:54:50,054
A golden age a perpetual

1483
00:54:50,506 --> 00:54:50,824
spring.

1484
00:54:51,538 --> 00:54:53,998
This is an extraordinary idea to chew on

1485
00:54:53,998 --> 00:54:56,952
as it supplies a rational basis, for these

1486
00:54:56,952 --> 00:54:59,824
wildly diffuse myths of a past golden age

1487
00:54:59,824 --> 00:55:00,780
of eternal spring,

1488
00:55:01,418 --> 00:55:03,275
an age where a more harmonious

1489
00:55:03,891 --> 00:55:05,747
relationship with time existed

1490
00:55:06,378 --> 00:55:06,878
So

1491
00:55:07,652 --> 00:55:09,643
we've also talked a lot on this show

1492
00:55:09,643 --> 00:55:13,227
about cyclical cataclysm and what's being proposed here.

1493
00:55:13,387 --> 00:55:15,712
A lot of this comes from... Arc toast,

1494
00:55:15,872 --> 00:55:18,504
the polar myth in science symbolism and Nazi

1495
00:55:18,504 --> 00:55:19,700
survival by Josh,

1496
00:55:20,338 --> 00:55:20,817
God win,

1497
00:55:21,774 --> 00:55:23,688
is this idea that we had an ancient

1498
00:55:23,688 --> 00:55:24,188
cataclysm,

1499
00:55:25,059 --> 00:55:25,559
And

1500
00:55:25,936 --> 00:55:28,410
before this cataclysm, we had this perfect harmony,

1501
00:55:28,729 --> 00:55:30,266
you could even say that

1502
00:55:30,644 --> 00:55:31,144
the

1503
00:55:31,841 --> 00:55:32,341
earth's

1504
00:55:33,289 --> 00:55:35,513
rotation was 3 and 60 degrees, a more

1505
00:55:35,513 --> 00:55:38,133
perfect circle and now it's 3 65, and

1506
00:55:38,133 --> 00:55:40,650
now the axis is off, and we have

1507
00:55:41,168 --> 00:55:43,880
extreme weather on certain parts of the planet

1508
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:44,380
that

1509
00:55:44,758 --> 00:55:46,216
when you think about the E

1510
00:55:46,594 --> 00:55:47,094
and

1511
00:55:47,710 --> 00:55:50,065
how it's tied to fall and spring these

1512
00:55:50,125 --> 00:55:53,005
transition times that are quite pleasant for human

1513
00:55:53,005 --> 00:55:55,724
beings as opposed to the summer and the

1514
00:55:55,724 --> 00:55:56,224
winter

1515
00:55:57,494 --> 00:55:59,107
you're basically saying that

1516
00:55:59,959 --> 00:56:00,777
this cataclysm

1517
00:56:01,550 --> 00:56:02,925
knocked us into

1518
00:56:03,873 --> 00:56:04,373
a

1519
00:56:05,231 --> 00:56:05,630
profane,

1520
00:56:06,667 --> 00:56:07,167
a

1521
00:56:08,104 --> 00:56:09,860
situation where everything is a little off, and

1522
00:56:09,860 --> 00:56:11,238
this affects human

1523
00:56:11,696 --> 00:56:12,095
spirituality,

1524
00:56:12,748 --> 00:56:14,763
and this would have affected the

1525
00:56:15,458 --> 00:56:16,516
ability to

1526
00:56:17,053 --> 00:56:18,568
habitat the north pole.

1527
00:56:19,126 --> 00:56:22,727
And so as the area that this initial

1528
00:56:22,727 --> 00:56:25,754
high society lived in got colder and colder

1529
00:56:25,754 --> 00:56:26,414
and more

1530
00:56:26,869 --> 00:56:27,529
in hospital,

1531
00:56:28,224 --> 00:56:29,202
they would migrate

1532
00:56:29,817 --> 00:56:30,317
down

1533
00:56:30,789 --> 00:56:33,429
south towards the rest of the planet, and

1534
00:56:33,429 --> 00:56:36,630
then we probably have many, even thousands of

1535
00:56:36,630 --> 00:56:39,443
years before Atlanta and that's the thing we

1536
00:56:39,443 --> 00:56:40,722
can kind of remember,

1537
00:56:41,281 --> 00:56:43,359
and then we have probably thousands more years

1538
00:56:43,359 --> 00:56:45,138
and we get to today. We have these

1539
00:56:45,516 --> 00:56:47,115
echoes in our subconscious,

1540
00:56:48,005 --> 00:56:50,463
throughout humanity that there's something else back there

1541
00:56:50,463 --> 00:56:53,474
and that this idea of a evolution is

1542
00:56:53,474 --> 00:56:54,766
probably more accurate

1543
00:56:55,630 --> 00:56:56,528
We've actually

1544
00:56:57,061 --> 00:56:59,446
interviewed Jim C, who talked about the saga.

1545
00:56:59,684 --> 00:57:01,115
I don't know if you've ever gotten into

1546
00:57:01,115 --> 00:57:04,079
that, but it is this thread that

1547
00:57:04,630 --> 00:57:05,130
this

1548
00:57:05,750 --> 00:57:08,150
person e Ba says he was part of

1549
00:57:08,150 --> 00:57:10,469
an elite family in ancient times and his

1550
00:57:10,469 --> 00:57:12,250
family preserve their own

1551
00:57:12,644 --> 00:57:14,820
language and this language was

1552
00:57:15,358 --> 00:57:17,134
on a wheel, and it was very

1553
00:57:18,310 --> 00:57:20,486
compatible with other things. It just seemed very

1554
00:57:21,438 --> 00:57:24,229
internally coherent, and he would talk about the

1555
00:57:24,229 --> 00:57:25,846
idea of Hell being Helsinki.

1556
00:57:26,382 --> 00:57:27,898
Oh, man. That sounds awesome.

1557
00:57:28,377 --> 00:57:30,744
I gotta check that out, man. He's from

1558
00:57:30,864 --> 00:57:33,181
Finland and it it gets really wild, but

1559
00:57:33,181 --> 00:57:34,780
it would be another thing I'd add to

1560
00:57:34,780 --> 00:57:35,419
the stack.

1561
00:57:36,378 --> 00:57:38,156
And to try to

1562
00:57:38,788 --> 00:57:39,765
Give people

1563
00:57:40,220 --> 00:57:41,674
some kind of c

1564
00:57:42,050 --> 00:57:43,879
before we wrap up the first hour?

1565
00:57:45,231 --> 00:57:46,981
I mean, how would you elaborate on what

1566
00:57:47,141 --> 00:57:49,494
I said, and if the spiritual poll

1567
00:57:50,434 --> 00:57:51,894
has some kind of

1568
00:57:52,275 --> 00:57:53,255
association with the

1569
00:57:54,275 --> 00:57:56,889
geographic poll, and we had this cataclysm that

1570
00:57:57,088 --> 00:57:57,724
shifted us,

1571
00:57:58,917 --> 00:58:01,246
what would you say about the spiritual pull

1572
00:58:01,779 --> 00:58:04,244
in later phases or even today and how

1573
00:58:04,244 --> 00:58:06,232
this might tie into the inner.

1574
00:58:07,599 --> 00:58:08,258
I think

1575
00:58:08,633 --> 00:58:09,508
to start here,

1576
00:58:10,304 --> 00:58:13,349
something to clarify for the audience is

1577
00:58:14,217 --> 00:58:17,720
The idea of this ax actual shift being

1578
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:19,175
caused by some kind of cataclysm,

1579
00:58:19,789 --> 00:58:21,541
you know, there's some scientist who might be

1580
00:58:21,541 --> 00:58:23,143
able to get behind that. Oh, a meteor

1581
00:58:23,143 --> 00:58:24,571
hit the earth, blah blah blah blah.

1582
00:58:25,523 --> 00:58:27,506
But what's really radical on what a lot

1583
00:58:27,506 --> 00:58:30,019
of these kind of esoteric assist, thinkers get

1584
00:58:30,460 --> 00:58:32,800
kind of threaded together here is the idea

1585
00:58:33,179 --> 00:58:35,679
that this physical cataclysm like you said

1586
00:58:36,140 --> 00:58:37,394
was kind of

1587
00:58:38,471 --> 00:58:42,140
And explicitly linked to a spiritual cataclysm or

1588
00:58:42,140 --> 00:58:44,453
a moral cataclysm. Right? And this is going

1589
00:58:44,453 --> 00:58:46,788
to be a recurring theme throughout the entire

1590
00:58:46,846 --> 00:58:47,165
series.

1591
00:58:47,896 --> 00:58:49,806
Whether it's, you know, this kind of as

1592
00:58:49,806 --> 00:58:51,976
above so below this micro chasm

1593
00:58:52,351 --> 00:58:54,021
linked to the macro cause.

1594
00:58:54,834 --> 00:58:56,293
Anything from the

1595
00:58:56,832 --> 00:58:59,309
cool geographies being linked to your own spiritual

1596
00:58:59,309 --> 00:59:01,387
states and they're being an effect there. There

1597
00:59:01,387 --> 00:59:02,825
being a link a chain.

1598
00:59:03,717 --> 00:59:04,934
But to approach

1599
00:59:05,391 --> 00:59:08,340
the beginning of the pool ship stuff itself.

1600
00:59:08,818 --> 00:59:10,832
So a lot of this is coming from

1601
00:59:11,222 --> 00:59:12,277
a bunch of different

1602
00:59:12,648 --> 00:59:14,153
personalities throughout the ages,

1603
00:59:14,946 --> 00:59:15,738
and we find this,

1604
00:59:16,689 --> 00:59:17,798
not just in a single,

1605
00:59:18,847 --> 00:59:21,635
cultural geographic location. We find it kind of

1606
00:59:21,635 --> 00:59:22,932
everywhere. This idea of the

1607
00:59:23,866 --> 00:59:25,061
succession of the ages,

1608
00:59:26,112 --> 00:59:28,206
and all these succession of the ages

1609
00:59:28,662 --> 00:59:30,198
apply a kind of downward

1610
00:59:31,053 --> 00:59:31,553
generating

1611
00:59:32,647 --> 00:59:32,966
trend.

1612
00:59:33,618 --> 00:59:34,255
For example,

1613
00:59:35,289 --> 00:59:36,186
the famous

1614
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:40,221
farmer poet He basically tells us right, that

1615
00:59:40,221 --> 00:59:41,414
this is, of course, in the hell poetic

1616
00:59:41,414 --> 00:59:41,811
context.

1617
00:59:42,542 --> 00:59:45,083
That there were 5 ages. Right? Either usually

1618
00:59:45,083 --> 00:59:47,068
equated 2 different kind of metals.

1619
00:59:47,862 --> 00:59:49,530
He says there was the golden age, then

1620
00:59:49,530 --> 00:59:51,277
the silver than the bronze and the har

1621
00:59:51,277 --> 00:59:54,018
heroic. And iron. Right? If we go over

1622
00:59:54,233 --> 00:59:56,460
to kind of right? The v myths, if

1623
00:59:56,460 --> 00:59:57,732
we go over to India,

1624
00:59:58,447 --> 01:00:00,212
you've probably heard of this famous and idea

1625
01:00:00,212 --> 01:00:01,484
that we're leaving in the Ka yu.

1626
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:03,393
This kind of dark age.

1627
01:00:04,030 --> 01:00:06,177
This same correspondence is there.

1628
01:00:07,306 --> 01:00:08,840
You find this everywhere

1629
01:00:09,453 --> 01:00:09,953
until

1630
01:00:10,407 --> 01:00:11,782
really the coming of

1631
01:00:12,236 --> 01:00:12,634
christianity.

1632
01:00:13,588 --> 01:00:15,074
Or you could say this kind of

1633
01:00:15,514 --> 01:00:17,755
In islam as Judeo Christian kind of way

1634
01:00:17,755 --> 01:00:18,635
of viewing things,

1635
01:00:19,434 --> 01:00:22,315
where instead of a cyclical history, it's flattened.

1636
01:00:23,126 --> 01:00:23,921
Into a linear 1.

1637
01:00:25,430 --> 01:00:26,939
But in a lot of an I hate

1638
01:00:26,939 --> 01:00:29,187
whose pagan is kind of a a

1639
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:31,547
an am morph term here, but we'll use

1640
01:00:31,547 --> 01:00:32,834
it anyway. And a lot of these a

1641
01:00:32,834 --> 01:00:36,110
pagan cosmology, it's cyclical, and implies degeneration and

1642
01:00:36,110 --> 01:00:37,469
then at the very end of see, the

1643
01:00:37,549 --> 01:00:39,727
Ka or the iron age, we get this

1644
01:00:39,947 --> 01:00:42,000
shift back this restoration. But

1645
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:44,519
So going to what you're saying on the

1646
01:00:44,519 --> 01:00:44,760
polls,

1647
01:00:45,719 --> 01:00:47,159
a lot of this gets picked back up

1648
01:00:47,159 --> 01:00:50,219
again from the ancient thinkers with the theo.

1649
01:00:51,574 --> 01:00:55,408
The theo, right, probably... Or listeners here are

1650
01:00:55,408 --> 01:00:56,068
know of

1651
01:00:56,447 --> 01:00:57,885
missus Bots. Right?

1652
01:00:58,939 --> 01:01:00,936
And they bring this kind of thread back,

1653
01:01:01,096 --> 01:01:03,514
and they kind of elaborate on this cosmology,

1654
01:01:04,932 --> 01:01:06,370
they basically claim,

1655
01:01:06,863 --> 01:01:09,431
they're getting this information from these enlightened masters

1656
01:01:10,204 --> 01:01:11,817
over in the east Himalayas

1657
01:01:12,192 --> 01:01:13,567
or to go be desert

1658
01:01:14,358 --> 01:01:15,156
and for them,

1659
01:01:16,114 --> 01:01:18,109
to kind summarize On also picks up on

1660
01:01:18,109 --> 01:01:18,269
this,

1661
01:01:19,386 --> 01:01:21,062
you know, there's many different variations of it.

1662
01:01:21,302 --> 01:01:21,940
But 1 of the most,

1663
01:01:23,150 --> 01:01:25,323
common is the idea of this

1664
01:01:25,699 --> 01:01:26,677
completely polar

1665
01:01:27,292 --> 01:01:29,226
to hyper warrior to Le,

1666
01:01:29,681 --> 01:01:30,898
right? To Atlanta

1667
01:01:31,529 --> 01:01:33,846
to Air, I know it's a loaded term

1668
01:01:33,846 --> 01:01:34,006
here.

1669
01:01:34,885 --> 01:01:35,385
But

1670
01:01:35,844 --> 01:01:38,581
the idea is the physical shifts in continents

1671
01:01:38,641 --> 01:01:40,891
themselves also reflect us strange kind of racial

1672
01:01:40,891 --> 01:01:41,391
ethnic

1673
01:01:41,769 --> 01:01:44,324
shift and the type of person there,

1674
01:01:45,281 --> 01:01:47,675
but this shifts with the poles of themselves.

1675
01:01:48,487 --> 01:01:51,030
And it also shifts with the makeup physiological

1676
01:01:51,030 --> 01:01:52,859
of a body. The idea is originally,

1677
01:01:53,416 --> 01:01:54,710
and this purely polar

1678
01:01:55,085 --> 01:01:55,562
ao,

1679
01:01:56,375 --> 01:01:58,695
And this is kind how the theo get

1680
01:01:58,695 --> 01:02:00,635
around the fact that there's no fossil evidence

1681
01:02:00,934 --> 01:02:03,335
is that humans or these kind of pro

1682
01:02:03,335 --> 01:02:03,835
humans

1683
01:02:04,295 --> 01:02:05,594
had completely ether

1684
01:02:06,148 --> 01:02:06,946
bodies. Right?

1685
01:02:07,584 --> 01:02:09,839
Goes back to the idea, I think Advances

1686
01:02:10,297 --> 01:02:12,791
that as the ages progress

1687
01:02:13,500 --> 01:02:14,612
matter becomes more solid.

1688
01:02:15,246 --> 01:02:17,152
So even from the polar to the hyper

1689
01:02:17,152 --> 01:02:19,931
warrior, these kind of geographic shifts of where

1690
01:02:19,931 --> 01:02:21,677
the pole is, polar as in,

1691
01:02:22,646 --> 01:02:25,192
also, you know, spiritual pull, and then all

1692
01:02:25,192 --> 01:02:27,101
these other authors come up with these different

1693
01:02:27,101 --> 01:02:27,896
theories as well.

1694
01:02:29,740 --> 01:02:32,046
But how this relates basically to inner enter

1695
01:02:32,046 --> 01:02:34,510
earth, but the idea is after the polar,

1696
01:02:35,067 --> 01:02:36,656
then there was a hyper warrior. There's just

1697
01:02:36,656 --> 01:02:38,246
successive kind of migrations down.

1698
01:02:38,739 --> 01:02:39,059
South.

1699
01:02:39,858 --> 01:02:42,015
This is how these end up both and

1700
01:02:42,015 --> 01:02:42,255
say,

1701
01:02:43,294 --> 01:02:45,931
India, and then also in Europe, the idea

1702
01:02:45,931 --> 01:02:46,431
is

1703
01:02:46,984 --> 01:02:49,545
then there was also the Le continent. Right?

1704
01:02:50,264 --> 01:02:51,784
That was kind of out there, you know,

1705
01:02:51,944 --> 01:02:53,864
the Atlantic Pacific, and then there is the

1706
01:02:53,944 --> 01:02:55,244
At atlanta continent

1707
01:02:55,717 --> 01:02:57,547
that was somewhere obviously in the Atlantic.

1708
01:02:58,661 --> 01:03:00,969
But there is supposedly a certain shift that

1709
01:03:00,969 --> 01:03:03,276
occurred where the spiritual center became the around

1710
01:03:03,276 --> 01:03:05,520
the Go desert area. The Go desert see

1711
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:07,831
the Himalayas and this kind of area of

1712
01:03:07,831 --> 01:03:09,504
the world, and that's why they say a

1713
01:03:09,504 --> 01:03:11,735
lot of these even the theo is talking

1714
01:03:11,735 --> 01:03:13,249
about where they're getting their hidden wisdom from

1715
01:03:13,249 --> 01:03:13,966
the east. Right?

1716
01:03:15,896 --> 01:03:18,052
Looks, right, from the east, from the orient

1717
01:03:18,052 --> 01:03:18,849
comes this light,

1718
01:03:19,488 --> 01:03:21,404
and it said that from these various authors

1719
01:03:21,404 --> 01:03:23,160
that under the either the Go desert,

1720
01:03:23,654 --> 01:03:25,833
where the himalayas is is this sub

1721
01:03:27,331 --> 01:03:29,728
realm, and it's described differently by all these

1722
01:03:29,728 --> 01:03:32,365
different authors if we wanna give credence to

1723
01:03:32,365 --> 01:03:33,005
their visions,

1724
01:03:33,578 --> 01:03:36,039
we can say it's almost like a bunch

1725
01:03:36,039 --> 01:03:37,731
of Sears or mystic

1726
01:03:38,183 --> 01:03:40,566
looking at some truth from different angles and

1727
01:03:40,566 --> 01:03:41,121
they're getting it.

1728
01:03:41,934 --> 01:03:43,215
Slightly different each 1.

1729
01:03:43,934 --> 01:03:45,454
That's probably the only way we can attempt

1730
01:03:45,454 --> 01:03:46,414
to put this together.

1731
01:03:47,695 --> 01:03:49,215
You're putting that out there coherent.

1732
01:03:50,268 --> 01:03:52,259
Yes, I think so. I think that's a

1733
01:03:52,259 --> 01:03:54,569
great way to try to stick the landing

1734
01:03:54,569 --> 01:03:56,481
here for the first hour people, but there

1735
01:03:56,481 --> 01:03:57,060
is a

1736
01:03:58,073 --> 01:03:58,573
to

1737
01:03:59,282 --> 01:03:59,782
the

1738
01:04:00,552 --> 01:04:03,671
stories that you hear in many different cultures

1739
01:04:03,885 --> 01:04:06,131
from mystic sticks from

1740
01:04:06,679 --> 01:04:07,897
deep thinking scientists,

1741
01:04:08,514 --> 01:04:10,749
all kinds of different people you lay out

1742
01:04:10,749 --> 01:04:11,568
key figures

1743
01:04:12,186 --> 01:04:15,633
along this path, lived in different times and

1744
01:04:15,633 --> 01:04:17,891
different places, but somehow

1745
01:04:18,429 --> 01:04:21,086
came to the same general shape

1746
01:04:21,465 --> 01:04:23,789
of parts of this story, and then you

1747
01:04:23,789 --> 01:04:25,482
put it into a continuity

1748
01:04:26,494 --> 01:04:28,584
into a chronology that I just think

1749
01:04:29,532 --> 01:04:31,444
makes a lot of sense because sometimes we

1750
01:04:31,444 --> 01:04:33,118
are like, well, is it At lan or

1751
01:04:33,118 --> 01:04:35,110
the mythic north? No. It's both. Those are

1752
01:04:35,110 --> 01:04:36,327
both different parts

1753
01:04:36,703 --> 01:04:38,797
of the same story. And

1754
01:04:39,108 --> 01:04:42,158
that's what really has clicked for me, but

1755
01:04:42,375 --> 01:04:44,128
this has been great. I hope at least

1756
01:04:44,128 --> 01:04:45,823
the 2 hour listeners,

1757
01:04:46,453 --> 01:04:49,401
got a clear path forged through the stent

1758
01:04:49,401 --> 01:04:51,472
material, but you are a great writer. You

1759
01:04:51,472 --> 01:04:53,782
cover very unique stuff right in the center

1760
01:04:53,782 --> 01:04:56,345
of my areas of interest and That's not

1761
01:04:56,345 --> 01:04:57,481
easy to do, but

1762
01:04:57,935 --> 01:05:00,161
remind people of your true bread and butter,

1763
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:03,342
the pope head post and el them on

1764
01:05:03,342 --> 01:05:05,304
the other threads that you've got running on

1765
01:05:05,424 --> 01:05:07,100
top of this stuff we talked about today.

1766
01:05:08,217 --> 01:05:10,931
Excellent. So, yeah, I have a pretty ec

1767
01:05:10,931 --> 01:05:11,329
interest base.

1768
01:05:12,208 --> 01:05:14,293
I write on a... Yeah. You could say

1769
01:05:14,293 --> 01:05:15,403
some diverse topics.

1770
01:05:15,959 --> 01:05:18,180
I have covered the Italian journalist andrea,

1771
01:05:19,291 --> 01:05:20,560
reached out to me around a year ago

1772
01:05:20,560 --> 01:05:22,799
for covering some his stuff. Yeah So I

1773
01:05:22,799 --> 01:05:23,696
have been his

1774
01:05:24,230 --> 01:05:25,525
liaison to the english sphere

1775
01:05:25,899 --> 01:05:28,681
with publishing his articles on the rat code

1776
01:05:28,681 --> 01:05:30,603
and a lot of the more, stranger side

1777
01:05:30,603 --> 01:05:32,903
of the vatican, you could say, we could

1778
01:05:32,903 --> 01:05:34,490
do at some point in the future A

1779
01:05:34,490 --> 01:05:36,791
whole episode on Vatican conspiracies. That's always been

1780
01:05:36,791 --> 01:05:37,822
kind of my bread and butter,

1781
01:05:38,793 --> 01:05:40,468
That's what we were supposed to do. As

1782
01:05:40,468 --> 01:05:42,222
you know, to the audience, we were supposed

1783
01:05:42,222 --> 01:05:45,014
to talk about Vatican secrets, and then this

1784
01:05:45,014 --> 01:05:46,450
body of work came out, and I was

1785
01:05:46,450 --> 01:05:47,885
like, now, this is great. We should cover

1786
01:05:47,885 --> 01:05:47,965
it.

1787
01:05:48,777 --> 01:05:50,210
Yeah. But I had a great time. I

1788
01:05:50,210 --> 01:05:51,405
had a great time. But, yeah, I do

1789
01:05:51,405 --> 01:05:53,874
a lot of more esoteric stuff around the

1790
01:05:53,954 --> 01:05:56,422
Vatican and these various factions in these various

1791
01:05:56,422 --> 01:05:56,661
plots.

1792
01:05:57,633 --> 01:05:59,949
And I always joke, you know, the reality

1793
01:05:59,949 --> 01:06:01,545
is so much more interesting than anything think

1794
01:06:01,625 --> 01:06:03,562
Dead browns come up with it. So

1795
01:06:04,179 --> 01:06:05,616
it's so... And I hopefully, I'm not insulting

1796
01:06:05,696 --> 01:06:07,869
Damn brown here. But yeah. I do that.

1797
01:06:08,030 --> 01:06:09,150
Do a lot of art history stuff.

1798
01:06:10,030 --> 01:06:11,949
They done a couple of articles on Georgia

1799
01:06:12,109 --> 01:06:13,949
C, but it all comes into the same

1800
01:06:13,949 --> 01:06:14,829
matrix of the weird,

1801
01:06:15,804 --> 01:06:17,881
Anyone listening would probably very much enjoy. This

1802
01:06:17,881 --> 01:06:19,719
will be my last kind of self shi

1803
01:06:19,719 --> 01:06:21,397
here. I think I'm the only 1 who's

1804
01:06:21,397 --> 01:06:22,995
ever talked about in English.

1805
01:06:23,649 --> 01:06:25,505
Was this article I did called the mag

1806
01:06:25,724 --> 01:06:28,139
behemoth, and I basically, I was

1807
01:06:28,677 --> 01:06:29,177
investigating

1808
01:06:29,555 --> 01:06:30,055
the

1809
01:06:30,512 --> 01:06:31,470
propaganda do.

1810
01:06:32,204 --> 01:06:34,525
Sonic lodge, and all the stuff that was

1811
01:06:34,525 --> 01:06:35,965
going on in Italy during the years of

1812
01:06:35,965 --> 01:06:36,765
lead as they call them.

1813
01:06:37,405 --> 01:06:39,539
All these conspiracies, all this kind of

1814
01:06:40,298 --> 01:06:42,136
Undercover occult violence, you could put it. And

1815
01:06:42,216 --> 01:06:44,213
I basically stumbled on the account of this

1816
01:06:44,213 --> 01:06:46,850
mag street, a judge lawyer in Italy,

1817
01:06:47,582 --> 01:06:48,082
who

1818
01:06:48,618 --> 01:06:51,248
was uncovered this entire conspiracy of a...

1819
01:06:51,885 --> 01:06:54,753
And this was very respectable guy entire conspiracy

1820
01:06:54,753 --> 01:06:56,745
of this kind of satanic c italian military,

1821
01:06:57,239 --> 01:06:59,000
throw him in mental asylum. He proved his

1822
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:01,420
innocence, and he ended up going into politics

1823
01:07:01,639 --> 01:07:03,960
against the deep state or the deep powers

1824
01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:05,079
at b, we could say, back I, like

1825
01:07:05,079 --> 01:07:05,719
2011.

1826
01:07:06,039 --> 01:07:07,409
When he got out, and then, of course,

1827
01:07:07,489 --> 01:07:10,583
he dies during Covid, and they cleared everything

1828
01:07:10,583 --> 01:07:12,329
from the Internet, and I managed to find

1829
01:07:12,329 --> 01:07:14,393
the 1 place where they still had all

1830
01:07:14,393 --> 01:07:15,027
his documents.

1831
01:07:15,599 --> 01:07:17,351
And the funniest thing is when I did

1832
01:07:17,351 --> 01:07:17,909
this theories.

1833
01:07:18,547 --> 01:07:19,582
Is is that you can tell you're on

1834
01:07:19,582 --> 01:07:21,813
to something. I wrote this article with links

1835
01:07:21,813 --> 01:07:22,451
to the last,

1836
01:07:22,943 --> 01:07:25,322
thankfully saved everything too before, I made the

1837
01:07:25,322 --> 01:07:27,225
article. I put a link to the last

1838
01:07:27,225 --> 01:07:29,208
page, the blog spot he had where he

1839
01:07:29,208 --> 01:07:30,397
listed everything out in Italian.

1840
01:07:31,445 --> 01:07:33,114
And 3 hours after I wrote the article,

1841
01:07:33,273 --> 01:07:35,101
this 2011 blogs box was taken down.

1842
01:07:35,816 --> 01:07:37,803
And for this dead guy. Yeah. No. It

1843
01:07:37,803 --> 01:07:41,882
it was... Very exciting couple 24 hours. I

1844
01:07:41,882 --> 01:07:43,397
recommend that. But, yeah, You mean I do

1845
01:07:43,397 --> 01:07:44,592
conspiracy. I do art history.

1846
01:07:45,310 --> 01:07:46,505
I do Vatican politics.

1847
01:07:47,078 --> 01:07:48,292
And I also translate

1848
01:07:48,903 --> 01:07:51,229
italian right wings. Thinkers

1849
01:07:52,396 --> 01:07:55,110
man, poe pad dot subs stack. Dot com,

1850
01:07:55,348 --> 01:07:57,254
and you could be found on Twitter now

1851
01:07:57,254 --> 01:07:58,048
under what's the name?

1852
01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:00,590
I don't recommend you following my Twitter. I

1853
01:08:00,590 --> 01:08:03,068
usually use that for, joking around, but It

1854
01:08:03,068 --> 01:08:04,821
is the Brad and head of Sylvester the

1855
01:08:04,821 --> 01:08:05,060
second.

1856
01:08:06,255 --> 01:08:07,211
Fair enough. Yes.

1857
01:08:07,928 --> 01:08:10,893
Man, well, I'm so happy, schwab. Made this

1858
01:08:10,893 --> 01:08:12,731
connection and it worked out. I had a

1859
01:08:12,731 --> 01:08:15,288
great time. I hope there's some clarity to

1860
01:08:15,288 --> 01:08:17,606
the narrative laid out for people. If not,

1861
01:08:17,845 --> 01:08:20,092
just go read, what you've written because it

1862
01:08:20,092 --> 01:08:22,161
is really good, and I'm sure we'll do

1863
01:08:22,161 --> 01:08:24,787
it again someday, but until then, I hope

1864
01:08:24,787 --> 01:08:27,110
so. I really enjoyed, man. This is the

1865
01:08:27,110 --> 01:08:29,180
first podcast I decided to go on just

1866
01:08:29,180 --> 01:08:30,693
because I had a lot of requests, but

1867
01:08:30,852 --> 01:08:32,604
I've always been a bit antsy, but just,

1868
01:08:32,683 --> 01:08:34,116
you know, the quality of your show.

1869
01:08:34,927 --> 01:08:36,621
And, of course, Schwab given that

1870
01:08:36,996 --> 01:08:38,984
recommendation, it means, you know, that you're...

1871
01:08:40,098 --> 01:08:42,007
You know what you're doing. But so I

1872
01:08:42,007 --> 01:08:44,091
apologize if I ramble a bit, getting into

1873
01:08:44,091 --> 01:08:46,795
my stride, but I appreciate it, ma'am. All

1874
01:08:46,795 --> 01:08:48,147
good. It was a lot of fun. Take

1875
01:08:48,147 --> 01:08:49,658
care out there. Alright, ma'am.

1876
01:08:52,537 --> 01:08:55,401
Sweet baby Jesus people can you believe it?

1877
01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:58,424
The first interview from mop pad we made

1878
01:08:58,424 --> 01:09:00,671
the cut. And I'm very happy with how

1879
01:09:00,671 --> 01:09:03,225
it turned out. First interviews are always kinda

1880
01:09:03,225 --> 01:09:05,141
of fun for me. It's a little risky

1881
01:09:05,141 --> 01:09:07,136
though when you haven't heard a person's voice

1882
01:09:07,136 --> 01:09:07,695
at all.

1883
01:09:08,506 --> 01:09:10,646
It could be a terrible speaker or have

1884
01:09:10,646 --> 01:09:13,184
some really thick accent that's hard to parse,

1885
01:09:13,343 --> 01:09:13,819
but no.

1886
01:09:14,453 --> 01:09:15,643
This was great.

1887
01:09:16,454 --> 01:09:20,695
Kudos to the almighty powerful schwab for recommending

1888
01:09:20,695 --> 01:09:21,574
us to each other.

1889
01:09:22,295 --> 01:09:24,614
There are really interesting in things happening in

1890
01:09:24,614 --> 01:09:26,407
that Twitter slash subs,

1891
01:09:27,024 --> 01:09:29,339
anonymous space, and I'm happy to be dipping

1892
01:09:29,339 --> 01:09:31,972
my toe into bringing them out on the

1893
01:09:31,972 --> 01:09:32,770
main stage.

1894
01:09:33,823 --> 01:09:36,135
I've always felt with this show. I only

1895
01:09:36,135 --> 01:09:38,368
do 20 percent of the talking. It's usually

1896
01:09:38,368 --> 01:09:40,600
the guests who get the floor for the

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01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:42,115
majority of our time together.

1898
01:09:42,689 --> 01:09:45,484
And if you really boil down what my

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01:09:45,484 --> 01:09:47,899
talent is. I think it's just a

1900
01:09:48,438 --> 01:09:51,791
talent scout for researchers of compelling material.

1901
01:09:52,443 --> 01:09:54,908
I don't know if there's any single bigger

1902
01:09:54,908 --> 01:09:56,999
source of my success than

1903
01:09:57,533 --> 01:09:58,408
guest selection.

1904
01:09:59,458 --> 01:10:01,370
And this was an example of a home

1905
01:10:01,370 --> 01:10:01,609
run.

1906
01:10:02,326 --> 01:10:04,716
I'm like a record label executive trying to

1907
01:10:04,716 --> 01:10:05,535
fold in

1908
01:10:05,911 --> 01:10:07,664
the best of the best under my umbrella.

1909
01:10:07,823 --> 01:10:09,905
Hey, Come come over here and do some

1910
01:10:09,905 --> 01:10:10,460
work for me.

1911
01:10:12,601 --> 01:10:14,506
But I ended up feeling like we were

1912
01:10:14,506 --> 01:10:16,983
a lot more similar than I might have

1913
01:10:16,983 --> 01:10:19,926
expected just based off the persona of Pope

1914
01:10:19,926 --> 01:10:21,517
and some of the stuff I see him

1915
01:10:21,517 --> 01:10:23,994
right on Twitter or stuff that I wouldn't

1916
01:10:23,994 --> 01:10:25,976
write, but whatever. It's all good.

1917
01:10:26,848 --> 01:10:28,379
I like interesting characters,

1918
01:10:29,148 --> 01:10:30,361
and I take them

1919
01:10:30,828 --> 01:10:32,043
in their totality

1920
01:10:32,896 --> 01:10:34,805
for better or worse, and I think Pope

1921
01:10:34,805 --> 01:10:37,112
had qualifies as an interesting character.

1922
01:10:38,162 --> 01:10:40,155
There's actually a lot of drama at the

1923
01:10:40,315 --> 01:10:41,373
Vatican currently

1924
01:10:41,829 --> 01:10:44,619
where they are saying according to Vatican law,

1925
01:10:44,859 --> 01:10:47,767
Pope Benedict didn't act... Actually stepped down properly,

1926
01:10:48,385 --> 01:10:50,939
and thus everything the new pope is done

1927
01:10:50,939 --> 01:10:51,898
is invalid.

1928
01:10:52,696 --> 01:10:54,692
And this isn't a small thing. I believe

1929
01:10:54,692 --> 01:10:56,944
the guy who made the claim actually got

1930
01:10:56,944 --> 01:10:59,501
ex communicated from the church. They're really trying

1931
01:10:59,501 --> 01:11:01,439
to clamp down on people

1932
01:11:02,297 --> 01:11:04,868
raising this issue, but it's bubbling up you

1933
01:11:04,868 --> 01:11:06,614
know, as you try to clamp down on

1934
01:11:06,614 --> 01:11:07,011
something.

1935
01:11:07,645 --> 01:11:09,551
A lot of times, it gets away from

1936
01:11:09,551 --> 01:11:11,376
you and you can't contain it, and that

1937
01:11:11,376 --> 01:11:13,060
seems to be, you what's going on here.

1938
01:11:13,219 --> 01:11:15,207
It's getting enough attention that my wife knows

1939
01:11:15,207 --> 01:11:17,514
about it. So it must be a pretty

1940
01:11:17,514 --> 01:11:18,389
big drama.

1941
01:11:19,439 --> 01:11:22,228
And I was very close to adding that

1942
01:11:22,228 --> 01:11:23,127
to our

1943
01:11:23,662 --> 01:11:27,423
outline today because the initial point of getting

1944
01:11:27,423 --> 01:11:29,998
together with pope head was to cover Vatican

1945
01:11:30,057 --> 01:11:32,771
secrets and heresy and all that kind of

1946
01:11:32,771 --> 01:11:33,011
stuff.

1947
01:11:33,649 --> 01:11:35,107
But this occult geography

1948
01:11:35,485 --> 01:11:38,203
material and the polar myth stuff just felt

1949
01:11:38,203 --> 01:11:38,703
like

1950
01:11:39,156 --> 01:11:41,143
a great Thc in the making,

1951
01:11:41,938 --> 01:11:45,225
and so real complex of a story that

1952
01:11:45,225 --> 01:11:47,305
if we gonna tackle it, there's really not

1953
01:11:47,305 --> 01:11:48,904
room for anything else.

1954
01:11:49,625 --> 01:11:52,524
But I love a well constructed epic narrative

1955
01:11:52,585 --> 01:11:55,311
that ties in obscure information that I consider

1956
01:11:55,311 --> 01:11:56,109
to have merit,

1957
01:11:56,747 --> 01:11:58,044
and you could take this

1958
01:11:58,421 --> 01:12:00,894
chronology this timeline and you could fold in

1959
01:12:00,894 --> 01:12:03,613
the electric universe stuff to the very beginning

1960
01:12:03,613 --> 01:12:05,676
of it, and I did bring that up

1961
01:12:05,676 --> 01:12:07,342
in the plus show. It didn't seem like

1962
01:12:07,342 --> 01:12:09,191
he was very aware of

1963
01:12:09,818 --> 01:12:12,283
David Talbot and Wall Thorn hill, but he

1964
01:12:12,283 --> 01:12:12,681
should be.

1965
01:12:13,476 --> 01:12:15,943
And you would just take their model for

1966
01:12:15,943 --> 01:12:18,195
the Golden age and slide it in with

1967
01:12:18,195 --> 01:12:20,435
all this other material and it makes sense.

1968
01:12:21,155 --> 01:12:23,475
Just a really fun 1 for me. Hear

1969
01:12:23,475 --> 01:12:25,635
something from my notes that I didn't actually

1970
01:12:25,635 --> 01:12:28,041
get to mention, but listen to this. So

1971
01:12:28,041 --> 01:12:29,497
he says later in

1972
01:12:29,873 --> 01:12:32,423
that unreal post that we did mention in

1973
01:12:32,423 --> 01:12:34,110
the beginning to Quote,

1974
01:12:34,826 --> 01:12:36,815
a friend of mine once said there are

1975
01:12:36,815 --> 01:12:39,201
certain men walking around the Vatican that aren't

1976
01:12:39,201 --> 01:12:39,758
really men.

1977
01:12:40,489 --> 01:12:42,474
At first, I thought this was a sn

1978
01:12:42,474 --> 01:12:43,689
remark on clerical

1979
01:12:44,220 --> 01:12:46,524
versions, but later, I understood men in this

1980
01:12:46,524 --> 01:12:48,747
case was not den debating masculinity entity, but

1981
01:12:48,747 --> 01:12:49,247
person.

1982
01:12:49,873 --> 01:12:51,544
And it would only be much later that

1983
01:12:51,623 --> 01:12:53,692
I would realize that this truth did not

1984
01:12:53,692 --> 01:12:55,760
just apply to the boundaries of Saint. Peter's

1985
01:12:55,998 --> 01:12:56,317
Square,

1986
01:12:57,288 --> 01:12:59,523
So that's interesting. And you would think that

1987
01:12:59,523 --> 01:13:01,220
if there was some kind of

1988
01:13:01,677 --> 01:13:02,177
rep

1989
01:13:02,555 --> 01:13:05,921
hybrid over overload force that... It would have

1990
01:13:05,921 --> 01:13:06,661
a power

1991
01:13:07,117 --> 01:13:08,710
concentration center in the Vatican,

1992
01:13:09,427 --> 01:13:11,578
but it obviously got cut because I just

1993
01:13:11,578 --> 01:13:14,208
started chi away at things that didn't fit

1994
01:13:14,208 --> 01:13:16,453
into the overall. Story, but it really does

1995
01:13:16,453 --> 01:13:18,764
because the later parts of his story really

1996
01:13:18,764 --> 01:13:19,582
talk about

1997
01:13:19,958 --> 01:13:22,906
the na and the stories of fish slash

1998
01:13:22,906 --> 01:13:23,406
rep

1999
01:13:23,782 --> 01:13:24,282
slash

2000
01:13:24,912 --> 01:13:25,412
amphibious

2001
01:13:25,786 --> 01:13:26,683
divine hybrids.

2002
01:13:27,534 --> 01:13:29,600
And he also talks about the parallels with

2003
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:31,134
the Fisher King Legends

2004
01:13:31,587 --> 01:13:32,722
and S,

2005
01:13:33,827 --> 01:13:35,440
And it's just another 1 of these

2006
01:13:36,132 --> 01:13:36,632
cultural

2007
01:13:37,721 --> 01:13:41,297
echoes of some kind of thing represented that

2008
01:13:41,297 --> 01:13:42,195
we can't

2009
01:13:42,903 --> 01:13:43,403
logically

2010
01:13:43,780 --> 01:13:46,093
understand how it's possible, but yet many corners

2011
01:13:46,093 --> 01:13:47,710
of the Earth have this

2012
01:13:48,327 --> 01:13:48,646
motif.

2013
01:13:49,603 --> 01:13:52,336
Always associated with some kind of teacher

2014
01:13:52,648 --> 01:13:53,465
or leader

2015
01:13:54,074 --> 01:13:54,813
or d,

2016
01:13:55,899 --> 01:13:58,856
and maybe these weren't isolated incidents, but

2017
01:13:59,307 --> 01:14:02,030
glimpse into some kind of real non human

2018
01:14:02,030 --> 01:14:03,626
power structure on the planet.

2019
01:14:04,425 --> 01:14:06,180
But, yes, if we do this again, I

2020
01:14:06,180 --> 01:14:08,356
would certainly want him to elaborate

2021
01:14:08,669 --> 01:14:10,819
on non humans walking around the Vatican.

2022
01:14:11,456 --> 01:14:12,810
But it also makes me think of the

2023
01:14:12,969 --> 01:14:15,916
George Adam stuff where these beans would come

2024
01:14:15,916 --> 01:14:17,921
to him and say, hey, we created all

2025
01:14:17,921 --> 01:14:19,352
these religions on the planet.

2026
01:14:19,908 --> 01:14:21,738
We seeded these myths for you,

2027
01:14:22,930 --> 01:14:25,317
and we like the attention that they get,

2028
01:14:26,207 --> 01:14:28,043
he's really not the only 1 to say

2029
01:14:28,043 --> 01:14:30,537
that, but I think it's really interesting to

2030
01:14:30,676 --> 01:14:32,671
tie it together and say, well, these...

2031
01:14:33,639 --> 01:14:34,139
Creatures

2032
01:14:34,988 --> 01:14:37,762
like us to have stories that they use

2033
01:14:37,762 --> 01:14:40,538
to kind of control slash inspire us,

2034
01:14:41,509 --> 01:14:44,002
But from their perspective, it might be ego

2035
01:14:44,060 --> 01:14:44,460
service,

2036
01:14:45,257 --> 01:14:46,613
and they did this a long time ago,

2037
01:14:46,852 --> 01:14:50,282
they occasionally make contact with individuals they think

2038
01:14:50,282 --> 01:14:50,782
are

2039
01:14:51,493 --> 01:14:54,920
worthy of engaging with, and they sometimes tell

2040
01:14:54,920 --> 01:14:55,658
these people

2041
01:14:56,114 --> 01:14:56,912
what they've done.

2042
01:14:57,629 --> 01:14:58,608
And then they

2043
01:14:58,999 --> 01:15:01,716
have a schedule of reinforcement where people have

2044
01:15:01,716 --> 01:15:04,753
these random experiences of seen an angel or

2045
01:15:04,753 --> 01:15:06,831
the virgin Mary and they're just laughing at

2046
01:15:06,831 --> 01:15:08,189
us from behind that facade.

2047
01:15:09,161 --> 01:15:11,229
And then if you think the general shape

2048
01:15:11,229 --> 01:15:13,217
of something like that is true, well then

2049
01:15:13,217 --> 01:15:15,500
it only stands to reason that a religion

2050
01:15:15,619 --> 01:15:17,689
his power center on the planet would be

2051
01:15:17,689 --> 01:15:20,317
largely ruled over by those who crafted the

2052
01:15:20,317 --> 01:15:20,715
narrative.

2053
01:15:21,591 --> 01:15:23,262
There's a lot of my mistake around that

2054
01:15:23,262 --> 01:15:25,590
whole thing of his constantine teens vision of

2055
01:15:25,590 --> 01:15:26,228
the cross.

2056
01:15:27,265 --> 01:15:29,578
1 perspective is, well, he never had a

2057
01:15:29,578 --> 01:15:31,173
vision at all, but he had to come

2058
01:15:31,173 --> 01:15:33,167
up with some kind of excuse for why

2059
01:15:33,167 --> 01:15:35,093
they adopt did Christianity.

2060
01:15:36,127 --> 01:15:36,604
Obviously,

2061
01:15:37,082 --> 01:15:39,570
the power center of the day saw some

2062
01:15:39,865 --> 01:15:40,365
advantageous

2063
01:15:40,900 --> 01:15:42,908
did reasoning to do that.

2064
01:15:43,784 --> 01:15:45,300
And so they just did it. To me,

2065
01:15:45,459 --> 01:15:47,452
that's a giveaway. You know, I'm not big

2066
01:15:47,452 --> 01:15:49,445
on Christianity, but right there, it's like,

2067
01:15:50,337 --> 01:15:51,075
A ruthless

2068
01:15:51,450 --> 01:15:53,757
bloody power center is like, yeah, we're gonna

2069
01:15:53,757 --> 01:15:56,382
adopt this and make this the standard thing.

2070
01:15:58,226 --> 01:15:59,817
Is it out of the goodness of their

2071
01:15:59,817 --> 01:16:02,283
heart and wanting to align with truth and

2072
01:16:02,283 --> 01:16:02,919
promote truth?

2073
01:16:03,969 --> 01:16:05,958
I doubt it. But then the alternative is

2074
01:16:05,958 --> 01:16:08,108
that he did actually see a vision. And

2075
01:16:08,108 --> 01:16:10,814
that these beings know who to show visions

2076
01:16:10,814 --> 01:16:13,462
too if they want to propagate their own

2077
01:16:13,774 --> 01:16:14,171
stories.

2078
01:16:15,203 --> 01:16:17,029
It doesn't make it any less of a

2079
01:16:17,029 --> 01:16:19,411
control mechanism, but it makes it a control

2080
01:16:19,411 --> 01:16:21,341
mechanism from a higher

2081
01:16:21,966 --> 01:16:23,077
more bizarre place.

2082
01:16:24,188 --> 01:16:25,774
I don't know. Fun stuff to think about.

2083
01:16:26,805 --> 01:16:29,026
But I did love this overall story as

2084
01:16:29,026 --> 01:16:29,685
a whole

2085
01:16:29,994 --> 01:16:31,532
it is hard to

2086
01:16:32,389 --> 01:16:34,305
get it right for us because the way

2087
01:16:34,305 --> 01:16:35,422
the show is split up,

2088
01:16:36,220 --> 01:16:38,716
it's always my challenge. I tried to

2089
01:16:39,427 --> 01:16:41,659
fit the gist into the first hour, so

2090
01:16:41,659 --> 01:16:44,131
it sounds complete at least and then add

2091
01:16:44,131 --> 01:16:46,203
context in detail in the second hour to

2092
01:16:46,203 --> 01:16:46,921
flush it all out.

2093
01:16:47,889 --> 01:16:50,271
I'm always trying to make a good interview

2094
01:16:50,271 --> 01:16:53,287
that works on both levels, but with a

2095
01:16:53,287 --> 01:16:55,591
big story, that is when it's the hardest

2096
01:16:55,591 --> 01:16:55,988
to do.

2097
01:16:56,799 --> 01:16:58,717
I think a lot of my colleagues could

2098
01:16:58,717 --> 01:16:59,217
be

2099
01:17:00,076 --> 01:17:02,793
suspected of using the whole first hour as

2100
01:17:02,793 --> 01:17:05,110
teaser are material for a second hour, but

2101
01:17:05,110 --> 01:17:05,909
in my mind,

2102
01:17:06,721 --> 01:17:09,181
Your paid subscribers are still listening to the

2103
01:17:09,181 --> 01:17:11,087
first hour, and you want them to put

2104
01:17:11,087 --> 01:17:12,912
in an hour of their time before you

2105
01:17:12,912 --> 01:17:16,117
get to the juicy stuff? No. No. No.

2106
01:17:16,916 --> 01:17:18,993
You gotta try to interview people who have

2107
01:17:18,993 --> 01:17:21,550
enough juicy stuff to fill 2 hours.

2108
01:17:22,521 --> 01:17:24,588
But coming back to the overall story here,

2109
01:17:24,827 --> 01:17:26,337
I could see it, we get rocked out

2110
01:17:26,337 --> 01:17:26,814
of sync,

2111
01:17:27,529 --> 01:17:29,755
and man has to leave the mythic north

2112
01:17:29,755 --> 01:17:32,395
and come down to. Spread out around the

2113
01:17:32,395 --> 01:17:34,386
rest of the planet. And if they were

2114
01:17:34,386 --> 01:17:35,343
more advanced,

2115
01:17:36,299 --> 01:17:39,500
then they likely shared that knowledge around with

2116
01:17:39,500 --> 01:17:41,410
people they encountered and we get these legends

2117
01:17:41,410 --> 01:17:42,206
of teachers.

2118
01:17:43,161 --> 01:17:45,252
And then we recognize this out of Africa

2119
01:17:45,310 --> 01:17:46,605
stuff is your typical

2120
01:17:46,981 --> 01:17:49,385
inversion of the truth to And this stuff

2121
01:17:49,385 --> 01:17:51,716
about a spiritual poll is interesting

2122
01:17:52,490 --> 01:17:54,243
that it might be inside the earth or

2123
01:17:54,243 --> 01:17:56,234
under the Himalayan himalayas, so the Go desert

2124
01:17:56,234 --> 01:17:56,972
is fun

2125
01:17:58,079 --> 01:18:00,386
We really just don't know. We have kind

2126
01:18:00,386 --> 01:18:03,193
of realized that we can't trust the royal

2127
01:18:03,329 --> 01:18:03,806
society.

2128
01:18:04,460 --> 01:18:07,356
Or the tightly controlled academic class

2129
01:18:08,135 --> 01:18:10,531
or the people who wrote the original books,

2130
01:18:10,930 --> 01:18:11,330
obviously,

2131
01:18:11,904 --> 01:18:13,597
that was very state controlled

2132
01:18:14,052 --> 01:18:15,565
when printing came out.

2133
01:18:16,679 --> 01:18:19,385
Only certain people could read and definitely only

2134
01:18:19,385 --> 01:18:21,136
certain people could print a book.

2135
01:18:22,108 --> 01:18:24,819
So when our entire histories are based off

2136
01:18:24,819 --> 01:18:27,393
of just a few of these things or

2137
01:18:28,090 --> 01:18:31,120
the writings of 1 particular Greek historian,

2138
01:18:32,094 --> 01:18:33,852
I mean, we're putting a lot of trust

2139
01:18:33,852 --> 01:18:35,711
and a lot of emphasis on

2140
01:18:36,729 --> 01:18:37,128
crumbs,

2141
01:18:38,327 --> 01:18:40,485
but whatever. I was very captivated by the

2142
01:18:40,485 --> 01:18:42,725
shape of Pope head story. I like the

2143
01:18:42,725 --> 01:18:45,345
things it explains in the logical through lines

2144
01:18:45,345 --> 01:18:45,900
it takes.

2145
01:18:47,171 --> 01:18:49,234
Again, I'll never really know. I'm not saying

2146
01:18:49,234 --> 01:18:51,002
this is my new religion is just what

2147
01:18:51,081 --> 01:18:52,596
I'm excited about this week.

2148
01:18:54,671 --> 01:18:56,367
But it does put a lot of isolated

2149
01:18:56,744 --> 01:18:57,244
pieces

2150
01:18:57,621 --> 01:18:59,477
onto a coherent timeline.

2151
01:19:00,266 --> 01:19:03,147
And I hope something you guys are pondering

2152
01:19:04,314 --> 01:19:05,822
until the next show pops up.

2153
01:19:06,535 --> 01:19:08,360
But if you still haven't become a plus

2154
01:19:08,360 --> 01:19:09,961
map or maybe this is the 1 that

2155
01:19:09,961 --> 01:19:11,862
draws you in. You never really know, but

2156
01:19:11,862 --> 01:19:13,367
we added a lot of stuff to the

2157
01:19:13,367 --> 01:19:14,001
second hour.

2158
01:19:14,715 --> 01:19:17,349
We talked about... But para fictional stories in

2159
01:19:17,349 --> 01:19:19,891
general, the shape of Hollow earth stories and

2160
01:19:19,891 --> 01:19:21,402
how they seem to follow a type of

2161
01:19:21,402 --> 01:19:22,752
template we've talked about before,

2162
01:19:23,562 --> 01:19:25,392
But I think the best part of the

2163
01:19:25,392 --> 01:19:28,177
plus show was the content about the Russian

2164
01:19:28,177 --> 01:19:29,234
mystic, Nicholas

2165
01:19:29,847 --> 01:19:33,119
Roi. And his tibetan expedition and seeing the

2166
01:19:33,198 --> 01:19:33,698
Ufo.

2167
01:19:34,865 --> 01:19:36,296
I mean, that just connects a lot of

2168
01:19:36,296 --> 01:19:38,360
dots. But we also talked about the Blacks

2169
01:19:38,360 --> 01:19:39,177
stone symbolism,

2170
01:19:40,122 --> 01:19:42,907
and little myths and stories about a blacks

2171
01:19:42,907 --> 01:19:44,997
stone and that stuff is

2172
01:19:45,372 --> 01:19:46,088
provocative too.

2173
01:19:46,978 --> 01:19:49,041
He flushed out the narrative even more, and

2174
01:19:49,119 --> 01:19:50,627
I would hope that you would want to

2175
01:19:50,627 --> 01:19:52,849
take advantage of the 7 day free trial

2176
01:19:52,849 --> 01:19:54,832
and dive in. You're already an hour committed.

2177
01:19:55,070 --> 01:19:55,204
So

2178
01:19:56,202 --> 01:19:58,118
Immortality, take it. It's yours.

2179
01:19:58,836 --> 01:20:01,230
Now let's talk about that last episode. As

2180
01:20:01,310 --> 01:20:03,359
I said, Alex is a friend, and I'm

2181
01:20:03,399 --> 01:20:05,883
a very loyal friend to my friend sometimes

2182
01:20:06,018 --> 01:20:06,573
to a fault.

2183
01:20:07,447 --> 01:20:09,827
It's worked a little different with work friends,

2184
01:20:09,986 --> 01:20:12,024
but I've got life friends who have been

2185
01:20:12,224 --> 01:20:13,500
really shitty at times,

2186
01:20:14,457 --> 01:20:16,871
taken from me, fuck my girlfriends,

2187
01:20:17,328 --> 01:20:18,126
etcetera, etcetera.

2188
01:20:18,764 --> 01:20:20,997
And yet, I don't really quit people who

2189
01:20:20,997 --> 01:20:22,765
make it into my inner circle.

2190
01:20:23,720 --> 01:20:25,947
Usually that's a good thing, but not always.

2191
01:20:26,663 --> 01:20:29,845
The shape of my personal tendencies is still

2192
01:20:29,845 --> 01:20:32,013
there in the relation ships I've formed through

2193
01:20:32,013 --> 01:20:32,573
this show.

2194
01:20:33,212 --> 01:20:35,529
I can acknowledge that. And if Gordon Chris,

2195
01:20:35,769 --> 01:20:38,006
Alex rec clues or a handful of other

2196
01:20:38,006 --> 01:20:40,496
people ever have something out I'm not gonna

2197
01:20:40,496 --> 01:20:41,052
say no.

2198
01:20:41,929 --> 01:20:43,840
I don't know why I'm wired this way,

2199
01:20:44,078 --> 01:20:46,309
but I just am, and it's why it

2200
01:20:46,309 --> 01:20:48,140
took a very long time for t h.

2201
01:20:48,394 --> 01:20:50,627
See to have any return guests. Because if

2202
01:20:50,707 --> 01:20:52,222
I don't get close to anyone, then I

2203
01:20:52,222 --> 01:20:53,976
don't have to feel weird about trying to

2204
01:20:53,976 --> 01:20:55,970
pick and choose the material that I want

2205
01:20:55,970 --> 01:20:57,485
to get into and the stuff I don't,

2206
01:20:57,725 --> 01:21:00,631
see And as a bonus, when they mysteriously

2207
01:21:00,769 --> 01:21:03,580
die slash, kill themselves, they won't loop me

2208
01:21:03,718 --> 01:21:04,218
into

2209
01:21:04,754 --> 01:21:05,791
that whole mess either.

2210
01:21:06,761 --> 01:21:08,592
But with Alex, I mean, even his last

2211
01:21:08,592 --> 01:21:09,547
book on evil,

2212
01:21:10,104 --> 01:21:12,173
it did turn out to be something really

2213
01:21:12,173 --> 01:21:13,925
great and interesting, but it's not something that

2214
01:21:14,083 --> 01:21:16,170
I would have been dying to cover it

2215
01:21:16,170 --> 01:21:19,286
wasn't someone I liked personally. And Ai is

2216
01:21:19,286 --> 01:21:20,644
also gonna fit in there too.

2217
01:21:21,363 --> 01:21:23,440
You're not hearing a lot of Ai talk

2218
01:21:23,440 --> 01:21:25,774
on ta h. See not because I don't

2219
01:21:25,774 --> 01:21:28,094
think it's getting a huge push to be

2220
01:21:28,094 --> 01:21:30,014
the next part of the next phase of

2221
01:21:30,014 --> 01:21:33,481
our digital lives. See But it's just so

2222
01:21:33,537 --> 01:21:36,242
beaten to death across so many of the

2223
01:21:36,242 --> 01:21:38,152
shows and media that I consume.

2224
01:21:38,725 --> 01:21:40,965
And my attitude with stuff like that is

2225
01:21:40,965 --> 01:21:43,864
that it's gonna come up naturally in chunks

2226
01:21:44,564 --> 01:21:46,404
that it doesn't need to be the focus

2227
01:21:46,404 --> 01:21:48,974
of an entire show very often. And this

2228
01:21:48,974 --> 01:21:50,957
might be the 1 time. We do a

2229
01:21:50,957 --> 01:21:52,251
show focused around

2230
01:21:52,623 --> 01:21:55,614
an Ai book and the topic itself, then

2231
01:21:56,291 --> 01:21:59,154
unless there's some Anthony patch like a cult

2232
01:21:59,154 --> 01:22:01,301
angle that resonates with me or something.

2233
01:22:02,176 --> 01:22:03,845
But in terms of a straight down the

2234
01:22:03,845 --> 01:22:05,117
middle, look at Ai,

2235
01:22:06,166 --> 01:22:08,472
It's not really a priority to me. And

2236
01:22:08,472 --> 01:22:10,621
based off the rating, I think a lot

2237
01:22:10,621 --> 01:22:12,075
of people will be happy.

2238
01:22:12,704 --> 01:22:15,736
With what I'm saying because that show only

2239
01:22:15,736 --> 01:22:16,236
got

2240
01:22:16,693 --> 01:22:18,788
a 3.9

2241
01:22:18,847 --> 01:22:19,347
yikes

2242
01:22:19,899 --> 01:22:21,331
When I looked at it yesterday, it was

2243
01:22:21,331 --> 01:22:22,206
a 4.1,

2244
01:22:22,364 --> 01:22:24,114
which sounded a lot better, so I probably

2245
01:22:24,114 --> 01:22:25,944
should have done this yesterday, but it is

2246
01:22:25,944 --> 01:22:26,342
what it is.

2247
01:22:27,391 --> 01:22:29,384
The comments were all over the place on

2248
01:22:29,384 --> 01:22:30,100
that 1 too.

2249
01:22:31,055 --> 01:22:33,207
As is usually the case with these topics

2250
01:22:33,207 --> 01:22:35,596
that are everywhere. Everyone has an opinion,

2251
01:22:36,486 --> 01:22:38,708
I didn't expect so much shade thrown at

2252
01:22:38,867 --> 01:22:41,510
Alex himself. I think he's a great podcast

2253
01:22:41,725 --> 01:22:44,027
and has a really compelling way of speaking,

2254
01:22:44,185 --> 01:22:44,685
and

2255
01:22:45,313 --> 01:22:47,144
Even with an average topic, I think he

2256
01:22:47,144 --> 01:22:49,054
has the ability to elevate it and be

2257
01:22:49,054 --> 01:22:49,952
very listen,

2258
01:22:50,726 --> 01:22:53,449
clearly, not everyone agrees with that, but be

2259
01:22:53,449 --> 01:22:55,229
comments that seem to

2260
01:22:55,849 --> 01:22:57,869
mis interpret my own perspective

2261
01:22:58,170 --> 01:23:00,429
were a little puzzling. I don't think I

2262
01:23:00,489 --> 01:23:01,389
dismissed Ai

2263
01:23:01,849 --> 01:23:02,090
overall.

2264
01:23:02,984 --> 01:23:04,984
I mean, look, I am someone who is

2265
01:23:04,984 --> 01:23:06,604
very curious about the

2266
01:23:07,064 --> 01:23:09,144
state of new technology. I was on the

2267
01:23:09,385 --> 01:23:10,184
Internet very early.

2268
01:23:10,918 --> 01:23:13,952
I started playing around with content creation years

2269
01:23:13,952 --> 01:23:15,628
before I had Thc even.

2270
01:23:16,347 --> 01:23:18,662
When I was in college, actually, you might

2271
01:23:18,662 --> 01:23:20,934
not know this, but I had

2272
01:23:21,472 --> 01:23:22,372
installed a

2273
01:23:23,071 --> 01:23:24,669
phone line in my room,

2274
01:23:25,308 --> 01:23:27,305
and I put the number online, and then

2275
01:23:27,386 --> 01:23:28,365
I made

2276
01:23:28,998 --> 01:23:31,551
content based on the calls I would receive.

2277
01:23:32,348 --> 01:23:34,900
Sometimes I answered it, and it was set

2278
01:23:34,900 --> 01:23:36,974
to auto record, and then sometimes I just

2279
01:23:36,974 --> 01:23:38,330
had messages that were left.

2280
01:23:39,299 --> 01:23:40,807
And it wasn't very good. I had to

2281
01:23:40,807 --> 01:23:41,625
sift through

2282
01:23:42,633 --> 01:23:45,094
tons of bad stuff to try to pull

2283
01:23:45,094 --> 01:23:46,070
out any

2284
01:23:46,618 --> 01:23:48,453
little thing I could work with, but it

2285
01:23:48,453 --> 01:23:49,989
was still fun, and I was

2286
01:23:50,526 --> 01:23:53,237
really young. I mean, this is 2004

2287
01:23:53,237 --> 01:23:55,310
or 5, just after high school.

2288
01:23:56,203 --> 01:23:57,881
So I was doing that kind of thing

2289
01:23:57,881 --> 01:24:00,299
way before I even had Thc. And

2290
01:24:00,997 --> 01:24:02,595
even that was pretty early.

2291
01:24:03,088 --> 01:24:05,554
For podcasting in general, and I bought Bitcoin

2292
01:24:05,554 --> 01:24:07,622
when guys like Jeff Be were talking about

2293
01:24:07,622 --> 01:24:09,213
it. On the air here,

2294
01:24:10,104 --> 01:24:11,161
when it was only

2295
01:24:11,776 --> 01:24:12,891
hundreds of dollars,

2296
01:24:13,448 --> 01:24:14,745
not tens of thousands.

2297
01:24:15,838 --> 01:24:18,706
I even saw value in n gaming.

2298
01:24:19,518 --> 01:24:21,430
When a lot of money was being made

2299
01:24:21,430 --> 01:24:22,945
on things like Wolf game.

2300
01:24:24,060 --> 01:24:24,560
So

2301
01:24:25,176 --> 01:24:27,739
I engage with things usual I keep an

2302
01:24:27,739 --> 01:24:30,206
eye on the space. I'm not na to

2303
01:24:30,206 --> 01:24:30,944
new technology.

2304
01:24:32,114 --> 01:24:33,920
And with Ai, I wouldn't say it hadley

2305
01:24:34,118 --> 01:24:36,499
0 value, but it has a long way

2306
01:24:36,499 --> 01:24:38,801
to go and most of the applications for

2307
01:24:38,801 --> 01:24:39,594
what I do,

2308
01:24:40,229 --> 01:24:41,206
you know, transcript

2309
01:24:41,674 --> 01:24:42,152
editing,

2310
01:24:42,788 --> 01:24:45,041
automated show notes. There are tons of shows

2311
01:24:45,098 --> 01:24:46,213
engaging with this stuff,

2312
01:24:46,930 --> 01:24:48,921
and trying to take the easy road to

2313
01:24:48,921 --> 01:24:50,036
get their content out there,

2314
01:24:51,007 --> 01:24:51,906
but the quality

2315
01:24:52,283 --> 01:24:53,101
is definitely

2316
01:24:54,036 --> 01:24:56,109
not up to a standard where I think

2317
01:24:56,109 --> 01:24:56,609
it's

2318
01:24:57,304 --> 01:24:57,804
useful.

2319
01:24:58,754 --> 01:25:00,510
If I can't push a button and be

2320
01:25:00,510 --> 01:25:02,025
happy with what it gives me, and I

2321
01:25:02,025 --> 01:25:02,765
have to

2322
01:25:03,382 --> 01:25:06,149
basically comb through it all to confirm it

2323
01:25:06,269 --> 01:25:07,786
good, then I might as well just do

2324
01:25:07,786 --> 01:25:09,382
the work myself or give it to a

2325
01:25:09,382 --> 01:25:11,298
human being who I trust and pay well

2326
01:25:11,298 --> 01:25:11,697
to do it.

2327
01:25:12,575 --> 01:25:14,651
I would say playing with its bias is

2328
01:25:14,651 --> 01:25:16,497
pretty interest I mean, that's probably the most

2329
01:25:16,497 --> 01:25:18,327
fun thing you can do with it right

2330
01:25:18,327 --> 01:25:18,487
now.

2331
01:25:19,441 --> 01:25:22,899
And Alex overall point about investors saying wanting

2332
01:25:22,956 --> 01:25:24,967
more than a liberal talking point

2333
01:25:25,421 --> 01:25:26,160
regurgitation platform

2334
01:25:26,853 --> 01:25:29,295
is a really good and important point

2335
01:25:30,131 --> 01:25:33,000
That tug of war between the quest for

2336
01:25:33,000 --> 01:25:36,266
maximum profits and holding the progressive line,

2337
01:25:36,998 --> 01:25:38,992
could get really interesting down the road.

2338
01:25:40,029 --> 01:25:42,021
But when you see guys from the Department

2339
01:25:42,021 --> 01:25:44,255
of Defense making it onto the boards of

2340
01:25:44,334 --> 01:25:45,233
Ai companies,

2341
01:25:46,184 --> 01:25:48,102
It looks like the guard rails are only

2342
01:25:48,102 --> 01:25:50,100
gonna get stronger, not loosened.

2343
01:25:50,899 --> 01:25:52,898
But eventually, I do think it will happen.

2344
01:25:53,057 --> 01:25:54,975
Something will break through and will all be

2345
01:25:54,975 --> 01:25:55,475
very

2346
01:25:56,427 --> 01:25:57,624
intrigued by that thin.

2347
01:25:58,741 --> 01:26:00,895
But with the Ai topic overall, I have

2348
01:26:00,895 --> 01:26:02,730
to sift through a lot of stuff that

2349
01:26:02,890 --> 01:26:05,300
I Don't find that impressive to try to

2350
01:26:05,300 --> 01:26:06,975
hold up a few things where I can

2351
01:26:06,975 --> 01:26:08,971
give it some credit in a 2 hour

2352
01:26:08,971 --> 01:26:09,211
interview.

2353
01:26:09,929 --> 01:26:12,020
I'm more aligned with the Chris K take

2354
01:26:12,020 --> 01:26:14,739
that technology is not really advancing anymore.

2355
01:26:15,619 --> 01:26:18,260
They're just finding ways to res shuffle the

2356
01:26:18,260 --> 01:26:19,159
deck or

2357
01:26:20,033 --> 01:26:22,507
rearrange the lego pieces and trying to make

2358
01:26:22,507 --> 01:26:24,284
it seem like some great new

2359
01:26:24,981 --> 01:26:25,140
innovation.

2360
01:26:26,019 --> 01:26:27,456
The reason I'm on that page.

2361
01:26:28,188 --> 01:26:30,805
The reason I conclude such a thing is

2362
01:26:30,805 --> 01:26:31,305
because

2363
01:26:31,994 --> 01:26:34,216
to me, all what would be the real

2364
01:26:34,216 --> 01:26:35,588
breakthroughs are quarantined.

2365
01:26:36,373 --> 01:26:39,242
The ether can't be acknowledged, hemp can't be

2366
01:26:39,242 --> 01:26:41,472
used as a fuel, rife devices can't come

2367
01:26:41,472 --> 01:26:43,146
to market, etcetera, etcetera.

2368
01:26:43,798 --> 01:26:47,084
Within the narrow lanes of what they have

2369
01:26:48,017 --> 01:26:50,963
considered or allowed to be considered to be

2370
01:26:50,963 --> 01:26:51,361
valid,

2371
01:26:51,854 --> 01:26:53,369
Well, it's pretty much picked over.

2372
01:26:54,326 --> 01:26:56,240
I don't think you can squeeze any more

2373
01:26:56,240 --> 01:26:56,958
excitement out of it.

2374
01:26:57,995 --> 01:27:01,106
But whatever, there are very few perspectives, I'm

2375
01:27:01,106 --> 01:27:04,807
truly a attached to, but sometimes I say

2376
01:27:05,104 --> 01:27:05,604
something

2377
01:27:06,457 --> 01:27:07,731
kind of off the cuff, and then a

2378
01:27:07,731 --> 01:27:10,041
person will really go off on how they've

2379
01:27:10,041 --> 01:27:12,601
lost faith in me over that 1 sentence

2380
01:27:12,761 --> 01:27:13,318
I said.

2381
01:27:14,272 --> 01:27:14,772
And

2382
01:27:15,386 --> 01:27:16,578
I think that's kinda silly.

2383
01:27:17,550 --> 01:27:19,310
I try to craft a show where you

2384
01:27:19,310 --> 01:27:22,030
don't even have to like me to enjoy

2385
01:27:22,030 --> 01:27:23,550
the guest, and I try to give them

2386
01:27:23,550 --> 01:27:26,114
enough space that that's always true and maybe

2387
01:27:26,273 --> 01:27:27,463
I'll even try to give them a little

2388
01:27:27,463 --> 01:27:28,811
more than I have recently.

2389
01:27:29,684 --> 01:27:31,587
But all you have to like is my

2390
01:27:31,587 --> 01:27:33,826
guest selection ability. You know even have to

2391
01:27:33,826 --> 01:27:35,759
like my personality or anything

2392
01:27:36,134 --> 01:27:36,532
about me.

2393
01:27:37,328 --> 01:27:37,965
That's okay.

2394
01:27:39,396 --> 01:27:42,103
As I often say, hey, we're just talking

2395
01:27:42,103 --> 01:27:42,715
here, may

2396
01:27:43,473 --> 01:27:44,752
It's not that serious.

2397
01:27:45,631 --> 01:27:47,948
We're not making any major decisions about the

2398
01:27:47,948 --> 01:27:48,267
world.

2399
01:27:48,987 --> 01:27:50,185
And even if we were,

2400
01:27:50,998 --> 01:27:53,072
If this is just a big sandbox for

2401
01:27:53,072 --> 01:27:54,986
physical experience, and I don't know if even

2402
01:27:54,986 --> 01:27:55,703
that would matter.

2403
01:27:56,820 --> 01:27:59,474
It's all okay. But, yeah, 3.9

2404
01:27:59,771 --> 01:28:00,091
sucks.

2405
01:28:00,664 --> 01:28:01,542
Don't like to see that.

2406
01:28:02,420 --> 01:28:03,777
And I think we did a lot better

2407
01:28:03,777 --> 01:28:05,773
today, but you tell me, plus people know

2408
01:28:05,773 --> 01:28:08,167
how to make their voices heard, and we'll

2409
01:28:08,167 --> 01:28:09,205
see on the next 1.

2410
01:28:09,858 --> 01:28:11,370
If my intuition is correct.

2411
01:28:12,723 --> 01:28:14,792
Okay. And now we will look at the

2412
01:28:14,792 --> 01:28:18,055
meetup calendar, and that actually reminds me. I

2413
01:28:18,055 --> 01:28:20,059
checked the Po box. The other day, And

2414
01:28:20,059 --> 01:28:22,126
there was a really nice sympathy card from

2415
01:28:22,126 --> 01:28:24,510
the folks at the Raleigh North Carolina Meetup.

2416
01:28:24,670 --> 01:28:26,339
Big thanks to everyone who was a part

2417
01:28:26,339 --> 01:28:28,585
of that, because Some of the names are

2418
01:28:28,585 --> 01:28:30,021
a little hard to read on this card,

2419
01:28:30,180 --> 01:28:33,850
but Darren, Weston and Amber, Derek and Pam,

2420
01:28:34,662 --> 01:28:37,367
Taylor and Mary Ruth, let me say that

2421
01:28:37,367 --> 01:28:38,799
it did mean a lot. My wife and

2422
01:28:38,878 --> 01:28:40,174
I had a good cry

2423
01:28:40,787 --> 01:28:42,458
in the post office parking lot.

2424
01:28:43,189 --> 01:28:44,166
And it was very

2425
01:28:44,780 --> 01:28:45,177
unexpected.

2426
01:28:46,371 --> 01:28:48,359
Thanks, A ton. And now for the next

2427
01:28:48,359 --> 01:28:49,871
events on the calendar,

2428
01:28:50,997 --> 01:28:54,253
July eighteenth, the La truth meetup at the

2429
01:28:54,253 --> 01:28:54,968
coral tree,

2430
01:28:55,682 --> 01:28:59,042
July 20 fourth Eugene Oregon at the Oak

2431
01:28:59,256 --> 01:29:00,247
pub a house

2432
01:29:01,255 --> 01:29:04,112
and July 20 fourth in Pasadena at the

2433
01:29:04,112 --> 01:29:05,539
corner Bakery cafe.

2434
01:29:06,412 --> 01:29:07,467
Looks like we

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01:29:07,840 --> 01:29:10,321
b Don't have any new events and 1

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01:29:10,321 --> 01:29:12,071
happened in between the last shown and this

2437
01:29:12,071 --> 01:29:13,821
1. So we're down to just 3 events

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01:29:13,821 --> 01:29:14,457
in July.

2439
01:29:15,427 --> 01:29:18,689
Tens of thousands of listeners all across this

2440
01:29:18,689 --> 01:29:21,235
great land and nobody wants to meet other

2441
01:29:21,235 --> 01:29:21,712
listeners.

2442
01:29:23,081 --> 01:29:24,593
Alright. I know we're a weird bunch,

2443
01:29:25,310 --> 01:29:26,663
I know you're taking a little bit of

2444
01:29:26,663 --> 01:29:28,836
a risk, but if you just put a

2445
01:29:29,292 --> 01:29:30,566
business you enjoy.

2446
01:29:31,300 --> 01:29:32,179
On the calendar.

2447
01:29:32,979 --> 01:29:34,739
I think even the nature of me reading

2448
01:29:34,739 --> 01:29:35,479
it out

2449
01:29:35,939 --> 01:29:37,699
is kind of interesting. It's kinda like a

2450
01:29:37,699 --> 01:29:39,319
free ad for a local business

2451
01:29:40,509 --> 01:29:42,016
Then you just go to a place you

2452
01:29:42,016 --> 01:29:44,161
like, have a few drinks have a meal,

2453
01:29:44,320 --> 01:29:45,828
and there will be other people in your

2454
01:29:45,828 --> 01:29:48,608
proximity that you might enjoy the company of.

2455
01:29:49,419 --> 01:29:50,137
And if you don't,

2456
01:29:50,856 --> 01:29:52,612
well, I think we've always wasted plenty of

2457
01:29:52,612 --> 01:29:53,112
afternoons.

2458
01:29:54,208 --> 01:29:57,002
But you know my spiel network with the

2459
01:29:57,002 --> 01:29:58,221
like minded locals

2460
01:29:58,534 --> 01:30:00,768
There's so many things you could do. It's

2461
01:30:00,768 --> 01:30:02,385
good to just have contacts

2462
01:30:03,240 --> 01:30:04,777
in your phone that

2463
01:30:05,234 --> 01:30:07,149
are on your page, but you could even

2464
01:30:07,149 --> 01:30:10,131
go further and find the right people and

2465
01:30:10,664 --> 01:30:12,652
buy an acre of land for cheap on

2466
01:30:12,652 --> 01:30:14,718
the outskirts of town and plant a bunch

2467
01:30:14,718 --> 01:30:17,524
of food producing plants and trees and just

2468
01:30:17,579 --> 01:30:20,175
find treat as your own personal

2469
01:30:20,554 --> 01:30:20,875
nature's,

2470
01:30:21,434 --> 01:30:22,394
grocery store.

2471
01:30:23,114 --> 01:30:25,114
You can create enough abundance for 3 or

2472
01:30:25,114 --> 01:30:25,914
4 families.

2473
01:30:26,474 --> 01:30:27,114
No problem.

2474
01:30:28,167 --> 01:30:29,681
And these are the kinds of people that

2475
01:30:29,681 --> 01:30:31,036
would do that for you. Maybe you need

2476
01:30:31,036 --> 01:30:32,789
to know where to find a good local

2477
01:30:32,789 --> 01:30:35,475
rancher. These are resources that you can

2478
01:30:36,150 --> 01:30:36,548
use.

2479
01:30:37,422 --> 01:30:39,432
I'm sure some of you have moved recently

2480
01:30:39,648 --> 01:30:41,715
like I did, and now you have to

2481
01:30:41,715 --> 01:30:44,418
find all those obscure resources that aren't full

2482
01:30:44,418 --> 01:30:47,938
of talks and all the bullshit. While these

2483
01:30:47,938 --> 01:30:49,292
are the people who might know.

2484
01:30:50,010 --> 01:30:51,284
Maybe just need a good weed hook up.

2485
01:30:51,604 --> 01:30:52,161
I don't know,

2486
01:30:53,211 --> 01:30:55,143
but there are many options, and

2487
01:30:55,836 --> 01:30:59,041
the only limitation is your own creativity.

2488
01:31:00,469 --> 01:31:03,189
Alright. Well, yeah, that's it. I guess, I

2489
01:31:03,189 --> 01:31:05,349
appreciate Pope had taking a chance with me.

2490
01:31:06,149 --> 01:31:08,403
I know you will enjoy his subs if

2491
01:31:08,403 --> 01:31:09,775
you ever want to

2492
01:31:10,783 --> 01:31:12,926
see some of this stuff flushed out even

2493
01:31:12,926 --> 01:31:14,355
more so than what we can cover in

2494
01:31:14,355 --> 01:31:15,680
a conversation, like

2495
01:31:16,356 --> 01:31:18,742
And, of course, the series is ongoing along

2496
01:31:18,742 --> 01:31:21,447
with several others that he's juggling, but that

2497
01:31:21,447 --> 01:31:22,322
is the show.

2498
01:31:23,213 --> 01:31:25,291
Redeem myself early this July,

2499
01:31:26,010 --> 01:31:26,489
I hope.

2500
01:31:27,288 --> 01:31:28,886
And I'll see you next time. I've done

2501
01:31:28,886 --> 01:31:32,175
my part your move. Polar myth concealer deceptive

2502
01:31:32,175 --> 01:31:35,547
history reveal and guardians of the spiritual center

2503
01:31:35,606 --> 01:31:36,644
of this island earth.

2504
01:31:37,681 --> 01:31:38,181
Your

2505
01:31:38,573 --> 01:31:39,073
fucking

2506
01:31:39,447 --> 01:31:39,764
move.

2507
01:31:41,431 --> 01:31:43,122
From space was fall,

2508
01:31:43,496 --> 01:31:45,188
its light started calling,

2509
01:31:45,560 --> 01:31:47,426
it's making. Crop circles

2510
01:31:47,800 --> 01:31:48,038
again.

2511
01:31:49,547 --> 01:31:51,851
Just as I was looking up, it showed

2512
01:31:51,851 --> 01:31:54,711
me all the hidden stuff and now I'm

2513
01:31:54,711 --> 01:31:56,319
all enlightened zen.

2514
01:31:58,313 --> 01:32:00,545
Waking on the masses is hard.

2515
01:32:01,422 --> 01:32:03,710
Silver ships are coming up

2516
01:32:38,672 --> 01:32:39,172
said.

2517
01:32:44,904 --> 01:32:45,404
Glow

2518
01:32:46,967 --> 01:32:47,785
end up.

2519
01:32:50,778 --> 01:32:51,278
The.

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01:32:53,969 --> 01:32:54,469
Ships