1 00:00:08,253 --> 00:00:10,410 Hey, everybody, Terry W here. Just taking a 2 00:00:10,410 --> 00:00:13,206 second before today's interview to say hello. 3 00:00:14,657 --> 00:00:18,472 And talk about a couple things. 1, so 4 00:00:18,472 --> 00:00:20,323 proud of my third and youngest 5 00:00:21,094 --> 00:00:22,763 child who just passed her, 6 00:00:23,653 --> 00:00:24,153 written 7 00:00:24,848 --> 00:00:27,717 exam for her private pilot license at 18. 8 00:00:28,434 --> 00:00:30,665 Very, very cool. Just super proud of her. 9 00:00:30,824 --> 00:00:32,577 So send her lots of good vibes and 10 00:00:32,577 --> 00:00:35,067 prayers as she gets ready to do her 11 00:00:35,307 --> 00:00:36,346 Faa check ride. 12 00:00:37,385 --> 00:00:40,181 And then heads to college to study aviation 13 00:00:40,181 --> 00:00:41,380 science to become a pilot. 14 00:00:41,874 --> 00:00:44,588 So so so so proud. All, proud all 15 00:00:44,588 --> 00:00:45,567 3 of my kids 16 00:00:46,664 --> 00:00:48,819 in just super super proud right now in 17 00:00:48,819 --> 00:00:50,336 this moment of of our kit kiddo Oh, 18 00:00:52,590 --> 00:00:53,329 I've been 19 00:00:53,710 --> 00:00:56,530 utilizing my vibration plate and 20 00:00:57,549 --> 00:01:00,042 to help with inflammation and, oh, gosh. What 21 00:01:00,042 --> 00:01:01,636 a world a difference it's making. So I'm 22 00:01:01,636 --> 00:01:02,774 going to put a 23 00:01:03,151 --> 00:01:04,209 link in 24 00:01:05,064 --> 00:01:07,615 show notes of the 1 I'm utilizing. So 25 00:01:07,615 --> 00:01:08,901 my be sure to go read the reviews, 26 00:01:09,139 --> 00:01:09,696 check it out, 27 00:01:11,523 --> 00:01:14,860 so phenomenal for getting that lymph moving, and 28 00:01:14,860 --> 00:01:17,180 again, helping with inflammation. So you're struggling with 29 00:01:17,180 --> 00:01:18,214 that and just and 30 00:01:19,009 --> 00:01:21,474 just haven't found the thing that clicks for 31 00:01:21,474 --> 00:01:21,792 you, 32 00:01:22,905 --> 00:01:24,257 go check it out. Be sure to talk 33 00:01:24,257 --> 00:01:24,916 to your 34 00:01:26,817 --> 00:01:27,931 medical practitioner, 35 00:01:29,044 --> 00:01:30,237 before starting anything, 36 00:01:30,874 --> 00:01:31,828 I have to say that, 37 00:01:33,673 --> 00:01:35,500 The other thing that I've been utilizing, I 38 00:01:35,500 --> 00:01:36,715 saw movie 39 00:01:37,486 --> 00:01:39,791 on earth, someone had brought up my attention 40 00:01:39,791 --> 00:01:41,062 and said, you need to go out this 41 00:01:41,062 --> 00:01:41,777 movie, so I did. 42 00:01:43,382 --> 00:01:44,518 I forget what string 43 00:01:44,893 --> 00:01:46,165 channel was on, but I found it. 44 00:01:47,357 --> 00:01:49,981 And so I've been going out every day 45 00:01:49,981 --> 00:01:52,144 and putting my hand on we these 2 46 00:01:52,144 --> 00:01:54,861 beautiful big tall. Ginormous enormous pine trees in 47 00:01:54,861 --> 00:01:55,420 our backyard. 48 00:01:55,899 --> 00:01:57,018 So I put my hand on the 1 49 00:01:57,098 --> 00:01:58,536 I can reach while I stand in the 50 00:01:58,536 --> 00:02:00,868 grass in my bare feet, yesterday, I did 51 00:02:00,868 --> 00:02:03,206 some meditation lying. On my back in the 52 00:02:03,346 --> 00:02:03,745 grass, 53 00:02:05,184 --> 00:02:07,901 and again, just helping with inflammation, and, 54 00:02:09,034 --> 00:02:11,028 The third thing I did yesterday was met 55 00:02:11,028 --> 00:02:13,580 with Laura Sc, who's here on Hilton head 56 00:02:13,660 --> 00:02:13,979 Island, 57 00:02:14,697 --> 00:02:16,372 and she had joined me on the Healer 58 00:02:16,372 --> 00:02:17,808 of Hilton series so if you go to 59 00:02:17,808 --> 00:02:20,314 my website, and go to 60 00:02:21,484 --> 00:02:23,234 so go to t dot com and click 61 00:02:23,234 --> 00:02:24,427 on the link that says, 62 00:02:25,302 --> 00:02:27,425 he of Hilton head, you can find that 63 00:02:27,944 --> 00:02:29,462 conversation I had with Laura, but I feel 64 00:02:29,462 --> 00:02:30,921 so blessed that she's here 65 00:02:32,499 --> 00:02:34,098 on the other end of the island for 66 00:02:34,098 --> 00:02:36,016 me, but it's only about a 20 minute 67 00:02:36,016 --> 00:02:36,915 drive. So 68 00:02:37,943 --> 00:02:40,799 that's been really cool to be able to 69 00:02:40,799 --> 00:02:43,338 meet with these beautiful healing souls. I love 70 00:02:43,338 --> 00:02:44,766 this island for its healing. 71 00:02:46,052 --> 00:02:47,247 Energy. Just amazing. 72 00:02:47,884 --> 00:02:50,273 Alright. Well, here's another beautiful conversation with someone 73 00:02:50,273 --> 00:02:52,263 who's joined me once before on the show, 74 00:02:53,060 --> 00:02:54,015 and we talk about. 75 00:02:54,668 --> 00:02:56,743 Healing and so much more. Enjoy. 76 00:02:57,541 --> 00:03:00,015 Welcome everybody to the Healing Place podcast. I 77 00:03:00,015 --> 00:03:01,851 am your host, Here W brought back for 78 00:03:01,851 --> 00:03:04,808 my 2 month Hiatus and very excited to 79 00:03:04,808 --> 00:03:07,430 have another beautiful guest with me who's joined 80 00:03:07,430 --> 00:03:09,576 me once before on the show, Diana Ra, 81 00:03:10,228 --> 00:03:10,728 Phd, 82 00:03:11,265 --> 00:03:12,860 and she is memoir, 83 00:03:13,419 --> 00:03:13,738 poet, 84 00:03:14,296 --> 00:03:14,854 essay a, 85 00:03:15,413 --> 00:03:17,646 thought leader and speaker, and I just drop 86 00:03:17,646 --> 00:03:18,763 my pen. I'm gonna go down and get 87 00:03:18,763 --> 00:03:19,640 it. Hold on 1 second. 88 00:03:21,011 --> 00:03:21,729 Alright. I'm back. 89 00:03:23,164 --> 00:03:24,201 So welcome come Diana. 90 00:03:24,999 --> 00:03:26,514 Thank thank you. Thank you so much for 91 00:03:26,514 --> 00:03:28,109 having me, Terry, and I said it's just 92 00:03:28,109 --> 00:03:30,198 an honor to be part of your the 93 00:03:30,198 --> 00:03:31,793 beginning of your next chapter. 94 00:03:32,590 --> 00:03:34,424 Oh, thank you so much. I said 20 95 00:03:34,424 --> 00:03:36,496 24 is gonna be a great year. And 96 00:03:36,576 --> 00:03:38,544 I know for you, you just had a 97 00:03:38,743 --> 00:03:40,412 a book launch yesterday. Correct? 98 00:03:41,127 --> 00:03:44,384 Correct. Correct. Yeah. That's exciting A memoir, 99 00:03:45,258 --> 00:03:48,055 humming messages from my aunt. Ancestors, and I 100 00:03:48,055 --> 00:03:50,067 told you before I hit record. I was 101 00:03:50,521 --> 00:03:52,828 online reading through the reviews and just... Oh, 102 00:03:52,907 --> 00:03:55,308 my gosh. I I love reading those types 103 00:03:55,308 --> 00:03:58,170 of reviews where it's just, like someone wrote. 104 00:03:58,567 --> 00:04:00,714 I'm not a big memoir reader, and I 105 00:04:00,714 --> 00:04:03,113 was a little hesitant, but I read that 106 00:04:03,113 --> 00:04:05,496 what it. And it was like, wow. And 107 00:04:05,496 --> 00:04:07,164 so I love that that somebody gives a, 108 00:04:07,244 --> 00:04:08,833 you know, a memoir a chance, and then 109 00:04:08,833 --> 00:04:11,394 they're, like, blown away. And so Yeah. So 110 00:04:11,394 --> 00:04:12,275 talk to us about, 111 00:04:12,914 --> 00:04:14,594 really I guess the inspiration me I miss 112 00:04:14,594 --> 00:04:14,834 book. 113 00:04:15,715 --> 00:04:17,794 Sure. Well, this is my fourteenth book. 114 00:04:18,447 --> 00:04:21,225 I'm mainly write memoirs is in poetry, and 115 00:04:21,225 --> 00:04:23,210 this city, I turned 70, so this is 116 00:04:23,210 --> 00:04:25,195 kind of a celebration of my 7 year. 117 00:04:26,403 --> 00:04:29,355 And I... As I was writing their inspiration 118 00:04:29,355 --> 00:04:31,589 behind it. I... I'll start with answering your 119 00:04:31,589 --> 00:04:33,105 questions that rambling here. 120 00:04:33,996 --> 00:04:36,461 Was that it was written during the pandemic 121 00:04:36,461 --> 00:04:38,552 when I'm Humming visited my 122 00:04:38,927 --> 00:04:40,995 flowers was asked by my writings studio every 123 00:04:40,995 --> 00:04:41,472 single day. 124 00:04:42,282 --> 00:04:44,747 And I figured, you know, there's a message 125 00:04:44,747 --> 00:04:46,893 in this that I I... You know, the... 126 00:04:47,052 --> 00:04:47,552 They 127 00:04:48,085 --> 00:04:50,567 pandemic slowed me down. So I got a 128 00:04:50,567 --> 00:04:52,083 chance too. I always had a picture of 129 00:04:52,083 --> 00:04:54,178 my grandmother who died when I was 10 130 00:04:54,396 --> 00:04:55,193 on my desk, 131 00:04:55,831 --> 00:04:57,927 and I came to realize that the Humming 132 00:04:57,985 --> 00:04:59,421 was my grandmother visiting me. 133 00:05:00,233 --> 00:05:01,905 And I would start talking to the Humming 134 00:05:01,905 --> 00:05:03,099 and I'd be getting answers. 135 00:05:03,816 --> 00:05:06,444 And I... At the time, I was fighting 136 00:05:06,444 --> 00:05:08,138 my second cancer diagnosis. 137 00:05:08,609 --> 00:05:10,836 And I... The doctors wanted me to start 138 00:05:10,836 --> 00:05:11,711 treatment, and I, 139 00:05:12,427 --> 00:05:15,291 I... Something inside me intuitively just said no. 140 00:05:15,943 --> 00:05:17,775 No. Just do your... You know, 141 00:05:18,731 --> 00:05:21,440 integrative medicine do follow the path that you 142 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:23,512 have been following for the past 17 years, 143 00:05:23,751 --> 00:05:25,995 and I asked Grandma. You said, listen to 144 00:05:25,995 --> 00:05:27,663 your intuition. I've told you always we need 145 00:05:27,663 --> 00:05:28,616 to listen to your heart. 146 00:05:29,331 --> 00:05:31,952 And so it became this dialogue that we 147 00:05:31,952 --> 00:05:34,358 had on a regular basis and 148 00:05:35,144 --> 00:05:37,464 then I realized my father started visiting me 149 00:05:37,464 --> 00:05:39,865 in the form of a different bird. And 150 00:05:39,865 --> 00:05:40,365 so 151 00:05:40,985 --> 00:05:42,904 I thought, you know what during this time 152 00:05:42,904 --> 00:05:45,558 of unrest so much... What's happening in the 153 00:05:45,558 --> 00:05:46,058 universe 154 00:05:46,757 --> 00:05:48,515 that I thought we all needed... 155 00:05:49,074 --> 00:05:50,913 Myself in particular, I needed to search for 156 00:05:50,913 --> 00:05:53,550 wisdom that was not present at my fingertips. 157 00:05:54,124 --> 00:05:55,401 And I just thought I would go out 158 00:05:55,401 --> 00:05:57,316 into the ether and and find out what 159 00:05:57,316 --> 00:05:58,774 that it wisdom was. And 160 00:05:59,790 --> 00:06:01,706 after I was really about Humming, I learned 161 00:06:01,706 --> 00:06:03,634 a lot of that humming. My mother was 162 00:06:03,634 --> 00:06:06,344 obsessed with humming burrows. But I've I found 163 00:06:06,344 --> 00:06:08,497 that they are... The native Americans believe that 164 00:06:08,497 --> 00:06:10,192 they are connected to heaven 165 00:06:10,663 --> 00:06:12,119 and that they can drink messages. 166 00:06:12,733 --> 00:06:15,837 As butterflies can, people can visit you who 167 00:06:15,837 --> 00:06:17,827 have passed in different forms. I mean, we 168 00:06:17,827 --> 00:06:20,407 all... So my book is really about paying 169 00:06:20,541 --> 00:06:22,549 attention to those visitors and 170 00:06:22,921 --> 00:06:24,135 and just honoring 171 00:06:24,666 --> 00:06:25,856 honoring their Winston. 172 00:06:26,570 --> 00:06:28,656 So Yes. Oh my gosh. You're going hear 173 00:06:28,656 --> 00:06:29,930 me up a little bit because 174 00:06:30,488 --> 00:06:31,842 I know I we hear a lot about 175 00:06:31,842 --> 00:06:34,152 cardinals if and and I lived in Ohio 176 00:06:34,152 --> 00:06:35,999 and the cardinal was the state bird. So 177 00:06:35,999 --> 00:06:37,274 we always had a lot of more around, 178 00:06:37,434 --> 00:06:39,746 but I lived in Ohio. And soon after 179 00:06:39,746 --> 00:06:41,101 my my dad had passed. 180 00:06:42,377 --> 00:06:44,450 I saw this red cardinal cardinal that would... 181 00:06:44,704 --> 00:06:46,140 Sit in the tree and just sing and 182 00:06:46,140 --> 00:06:47,576 singing and singing and singing and singing. So 183 00:06:47,656 --> 00:06:50,768 I would sometimes do laps around our pool 184 00:06:50,768 --> 00:06:52,539 in our backyard just to get my steps 185 00:06:52,539 --> 00:06:54,220 in and get some movement while I was 186 00:06:54,220 --> 00:06:55,740 working in the day just go out for 187 00:06:55,740 --> 00:06:58,060 10 minutes move. And this Cardinal would just 188 00:06:58,060 --> 00:07:00,139 sings to me. So I started saying, hi, 189 00:07:00,379 --> 00:07:03,895 Dad, and talking to him. And so 1 190 00:07:03,895 --> 00:07:05,882 day, I saw the cardinal and the at 191 00:07:05,882 --> 00:07:07,790 the time we had our our third child, 192 00:07:07,949 --> 00:07:10,198 our youngest had a tram in the backyard, 193 00:07:10,358 --> 00:07:11,956 1 of those with the net around it. 194 00:07:12,355 --> 00:07:14,113 And I saw this cardinal, this Bright ray 195 00:07:14,113 --> 00:07:16,351 cardinal sitting in the middle of the tram. 196 00:07:16,511 --> 00:07:18,201 And I was, like, What behind is like, 197 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:21,145 Hurdle doing. So after, you know, I did 198 00:07:21,145 --> 00:07:22,896 whatever I was doing from my office, and 199 00:07:22,976 --> 00:07:24,886 I walked outside and was doing my laps. 200 00:07:25,537 --> 00:07:28,078 And I noticed something lying in the middle 201 00:07:28,078 --> 00:07:28,872 of the tram. 202 00:07:29,348 --> 00:07:32,286 Now I find hearts everywhere, like, I I 203 00:07:32,286 --> 00:07:34,287 find hearts in the clock and hearts and 204 00:07:34,287 --> 00:07:36,194 watts of gum on the sidewalk and hearts 205 00:07:36,194 --> 00:07:38,340 and rocks. And I just find hearts. And 206 00:07:38,499 --> 00:07:40,620 I looked closely and Ea have a belts 207 00:07:40,819 --> 00:07:42,255 whole thing on Facebook, I wrote a little 208 00:07:42,255 --> 00:07:42,814 story about it. 209 00:07:43,692 --> 00:07:44,192 There 210 00:07:44,809 --> 00:07:45,309 was 211 00:07:46,485 --> 00:07:48,320 a leaf, I guess or something, 212 00:07:48,814 --> 00:07:51,466 that was a perfectly shaped heart 213 00:07:52,002 --> 00:07:54,473 that this cardinal had left in the middle 214 00:07:54,473 --> 00:07:56,306 of the tram. And so I was like, 215 00:07:57,356 --> 00:08:00,214 Well, thanks Dad So to me. I... As 216 00:08:00,372 --> 00:08:02,357 I totally relate with what you're talking about. 217 00:08:02,595 --> 00:08:05,295 Yes. I agree. Yeah. So I'm I'm happy 218 00:08:05,295 --> 00:08:06,902 that it resonates with you in that way. 219 00:08:07,061 --> 00:08:09,055 And... Because you're paying attention, you know, So 220 00:08:09,215 --> 00:08:10,172 I guess what I'm trying to tell help 221 00:08:10,172 --> 00:08:11,687 you people is pay attention because I think 222 00:08:11,687 --> 00:08:13,681 we've received messages all the time. 223 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:15,936 You know, We just don't always 224 00:08:16,329 --> 00:08:18,490 attention Then I lost my dog, 225 00:08:19,850 --> 00:08:21,370 a little bit over a year ago. I 226 00:08:21,370 --> 00:08:22,810 had a 17 year old Malt. 227 00:08:23,290 --> 00:08:25,138 Pay And I was just... After he passed, 228 00:08:25,377 --> 00:08:27,449 I was devastated, And, you know, 3 children 229 00:08:27,449 --> 00:08:28,963 that have grown 6 grandchildren. 230 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:30,637 And so I was... 231 00:08:31,369 --> 00:08:33,044 I was talking to him and saying, you 232 00:08:33,044 --> 00:08:33,283 know, 233 00:08:34,001 --> 00:08:36,314 please come back in whatever way I'm I 234 00:08:36,314 --> 00:08:38,388 miss you. And I got a new puppy, 235 00:08:38,547 --> 00:08:40,621 and I swear he has... He's got the 236 00:08:40,621 --> 00:08:43,672 same birth day. Oh, the old, the dog 237 00:08:43,672 --> 00:08:46,069 that passed, and he has so many of 238 00:08:46,069 --> 00:08:47,049 the same characteristics. 239 00:08:47,428 --> 00:08:49,985 So I think if we pay attention, we 240 00:08:49,985 --> 00:08:50,485 listen 241 00:08:50,879 --> 00:08:53,989 we said intentions magic can happen. So I 242 00:08:53,989 --> 00:08:55,845 think that's what the book is about. And 243 00:08:55,903 --> 00:08:58,295 1 of the things people loved about the 244 00:08:58,295 --> 00:09:00,105 book was that the intermediate chapter. I have 245 00:09:00,303 --> 00:09:02,447 questions with people to reflect on... 246 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:06,180 To help bring out, you know, to help 247 00:09:06,180 --> 00:09:07,769 reflect on their own life, their own past 248 00:09:07,769 --> 00:09:08,881 and their own ancestors, 249 00:09:10,326 --> 00:09:12,154 now the important thing to remember is that 250 00:09:12,154 --> 00:09:14,381 ancestors are not only relatives they could be 251 00:09:14,381 --> 00:09:16,550 places or they could be mentors that we've, 252 00:09:16,766 --> 00:09:18,754 you know, have really changed our lives. 253 00:09:19,802 --> 00:09:22,502 Because sometimes people think, oh, well, I'm adopted. 254 00:09:22,740 --> 00:09:25,043 I don't know who my ancestors are. And 255 00:09:25,043 --> 00:09:27,919 but that's not necessarily a problem. That's... Just, 256 00:09:27,999 --> 00:09:29,597 you know, it's just a new another dimension. 257 00:09:30,476 --> 00:09:32,234 Yeah. Oh, that's a really great way of 258 00:09:32,234 --> 00:09:34,871 putting it that way because what I think 259 00:09:34,871 --> 00:09:35,990 about when you said that was... 260 00:09:36,723 --> 00:09:38,717 Energy in in like a place can have 261 00:09:38,717 --> 00:09:39,913 some energy to it. 262 00:09:41,429 --> 00:09:44,322 Even though there might not be an ancestral 263 00:09:45,018 --> 00:09:45,518 connection 264 00:09:46,388 --> 00:09:49,331 like, from a person necessarily on like that. 265 00:09:49,570 --> 00:09:49,888 Yeah. 266 00:09:50,445 --> 00:09:51,956 Yeah. Yeah. I know when I went to 267 00:09:52,115 --> 00:09:54,342 Hawaii many years ago, because I love Hawaiian. 268 00:09:54,914 --> 00:09:57,075 There was something about it that was, like, 269 00:09:57,154 --> 00:09:58,995 it was pulling me, and I met a 270 00:09:58,995 --> 00:10:00,514 shop there, and she said, oh, were you 271 00:10:00,514 --> 00:10:02,514 were hawaiian in your past life. 272 00:10:03,570 --> 00:10:05,169 I went, oh, what did you passed? She 273 00:10:05,169 --> 00:10:07,009 said you had a many past life. But 274 00:10:07,009 --> 00:10:08,690 then she took me down to the ey. 275 00:10:09,009 --> 00:10:10,289 I think it was called the Ey Mountains 276 00:10:10,289 --> 00:10:11,330 at the time, and she's like, 277 00:10:12,065 --> 00:10:13,904 This is where your ancestors are from you 278 00:10:13,904 --> 00:10:17,105 dear grandfather great grandfather had a herb farm 279 00:10:17,105 --> 00:10:17,825 here, my like. 280 00:10:18,625 --> 00:10:19,345 Okay it. I'd... 281 00:10:20,318 --> 00:10:21,750 As soon as I walked down the hill 282 00:10:21,750 --> 00:10:23,182 to the river with the... In the middle 283 00:10:23,182 --> 00:10:25,091 of the forest, I started a crying, like, 284 00:10:25,329 --> 00:10:26,522 I never cried before. 285 00:10:27,174 --> 00:10:29,328 So there was a connection that my body... 286 00:10:29,648 --> 00:10:32,839 Our body remembers, my body remembered, and didn't 287 00:10:32,839 --> 00:10:33,796 remember the story. 288 00:10:34,610 --> 00:10:36,929 Oh, my body remembered is something in that 289 00:10:36,929 --> 00:10:39,409 spot. So I'm I'm I'm a real big 290 00:10:39,409 --> 00:10:41,330 believer that we are connect... We're all connected. 291 00:10:42,063 --> 00:10:44,768 Oh, yes. Oh my gosh. Everything you... The 292 00:10:44,768 --> 00:10:46,143 things you keep saying are resonate. 293 00:10:47,234 --> 00:10:49,637 We vacation here on Hilton neck. Island. I 294 00:10:49,637 --> 00:10:51,072 live on... Oh, you live on Hailey Head. 295 00:10:51,311 --> 00:10:53,463 You're so lucky. Oh, yes. Thank you Thank 296 00:10:53,463 --> 00:10:55,217 you. Well, we, you know, we we came 297 00:10:55,217 --> 00:10:57,621 to Paradise for 20 years, brought our Kids 298 00:10:57,621 --> 00:10:59,605 down, and we would vacation every year, and 299 00:10:59,684 --> 00:11:01,509 I I loved it. It was so peaceful 300 00:11:01,509 --> 00:11:04,389 and beautiful. But the very first time 301 00:11:04,698 --> 00:11:06,684 we've gotten a postcard in the mail from... 302 00:11:07,001 --> 00:11:09,146 I don't know Marriott 1 of the time 303 00:11:09,146 --> 00:11:11,608 shares. Hey, come down and stay for 3 304 00:11:11,608 --> 00:11:14,190 nights and we'll... Go through this time share 305 00:11:14,326 --> 00:11:15,839 presentation and you can stay for free. 306 00:11:16,555 --> 00:11:17,293 And so 307 00:11:17,748 --> 00:11:19,261 we were like, where the heck is hilton 308 00:11:19,261 --> 00:11:21,091 man? Just before, you know, like, you had 309 00:11:21,091 --> 00:11:23,658 the map on your phone. And so we 310 00:11:23,658 --> 00:11:26,694 did. And I'm not kidding you when we 311 00:11:26,694 --> 00:11:28,532 were coming over the bridge for the first 312 00:11:28,532 --> 00:11:28,772 time. 313 00:11:29,411 --> 00:11:31,022 And I'm here. And we have... At the 314 00:11:31,022 --> 00:11:32,772 time our 2 little boys in the back 315 00:11:32,772 --> 00:11:33,011 seat. 316 00:11:33,648 --> 00:11:35,239 And I looked out the window and as 317 00:11:35,239 --> 00:11:37,785 we hit the island, I turned to my 318 00:11:37,785 --> 00:11:38,899 van husband, and I said, 319 00:11:39,615 --> 00:11:40,986 at I don't know how to tell you 320 00:11:40,986 --> 00:11:42,742 this, but this feels like home. 321 00:11:43,779 --> 00:11:44,279 And 322 00:11:44,817 --> 00:11:47,312 I I just felt like I was coming 323 00:11:47,371 --> 00:11:47,610 home. 324 00:11:48,264 --> 00:11:50,418 And it was so... I'd never been to 325 00:11:50,418 --> 00:11:52,493 the place I hadn't seen really seen pictures 326 00:11:52,493 --> 00:11:53,371 of it anything, 327 00:11:53,770 --> 00:11:55,686 but I knew it. And now here I 328 00:11:55,686 --> 00:11:59,132 am. 20 something odd years later, and I 329 00:11:59,132 --> 00:12:00,967 call it home, and it it's home. 330 00:12:01,526 --> 00:12:03,542 And it was like, it was like my 331 00:12:04,174 --> 00:12:06,647 past my my past self knew my future 332 00:12:06,647 --> 00:12:09,201 self. Yeah. We everybody even remembered something. 333 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:12,800 Yeah so interesting isn't it. Yeah. So thank 334 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,419 sure. Very fast. Yeah. And that's just something 335 00:12:15,419 --> 00:12:17,721 similar happened to me when I when I 336 00:12:17,721 --> 00:12:19,944 was diagnosed with best cancer in 2001. 337 00:12:20,673 --> 00:12:22,422 Were living in Florida at the time, and, 338 00:12:22,899 --> 00:12:24,886 I I really didn't wanna get in the 339 00:12:24,886 --> 00:12:27,429 surgery treatment there. So I researched the best 340 00:12:27,429 --> 00:12:28,860 doctor he was in Los Angeles. 341 00:12:29,989 --> 00:12:31,663 So we went and I had surgery there, 342 00:12:31,902 --> 00:12:34,454 and we visited a cousin the Barbara north 343 00:12:34,454 --> 00:12:35,570 of South Los Angeles. 344 00:12:36,367 --> 00:12:37,962 And as soon as we drove because it 345 00:12:37,962 --> 00:12:40,209 is a long stretch of ocean before you 346 00:12:40,209 --> 00:12:41,643 actually get to the city of santa barbara. 347 00:12:42,201 --> 00:12:43,954 We drove on the stretch of ocean and 348 00:12:43,954 --> 00:12:45,627 not it felt familiar. I'm like, 349 00:12:46,757 --> 00:12:48,111 I know that and I'd never been there 350 00:12:48,111 --> 00:12:50,420 ever before. I know this place. My body 351 00:12:50,420 --> 00:12:53,525 was just like, my shoulders relaxed. My my 352 00:12:53,525 --> 00:12:56,162 headache went away. And I suddenly felt... And 353 00:12:56,162 --> 00:12:58,223 we ended up moving here few later. It's 354 00:12:58,223 --> 00:12:59,809 very expensive. So we had a couple of 355 00:12:59,809 --> 00:13:00,998 mix of more money. But, 356 00:13:02,599 --> 00:13:04,431 Yeah. So I already remembered. I must have 357 00:13:04,431 --> 00:13:06,821 been here in some other life too. So 358 00:13:06,821 --> 00:13:08,414 it's such a beautiful feeling and Held lucky 359 00:13:08,414 --> 00:13:10,564 we have landed in place that make us 360 00:13:10,564 --> 00:13:13,365 feel so good. Right? Oh, yes. For sure. 361 00:13:13,604 --> 00:13:15,275 And and it is amazing because you're right. 362 00:13:15,434 --> 00:13:17,742 It just kinda... There's something that just comes 363 00:13:17,742 --> 00:13:20,049 alive, a a tingle or or something. I 364 00:13:20,049 --> 00:13:22,769 don't know. That just it's our census are 365 00:13:22,769 --> 00:13:25,234 like, oh, I remember this. So... Oh, this 366 00:13:25,234 --> 00:13:27,086 is where we're supposed to be. Yeah 367 00:13:27,461 --> 00:13:29,051 This is where we're supposed to be exactly 368 00:13:29,051 --> 00:13:30,423 right. Right. Exactly. 369 00:13:31,222 --> 00:13:32,042 So now 370 00:13:32,501 --> 00:13:33,241 do you 371 00:13:34,739 --> 00:13:36,817 work with others? Do you help others in 372 00:13:36,817 --> 00:13:38,275 in writing? And 373 00:13:39,068 --> 00:13:40,579 in creating their own... 374 00:13:41,375 --> 00:13:42,886 Or, I guess getting in touch with their 375 00:13:42,886 --> 00:13:44,818 own truths and sharing their stories 376 00:13:46,003 --> 00:13:47,754 do. I teach a lot of workshop. My 377 00:13:47,754 --> 00:13:49,904 website is diana ra dot com. And I 378 00:13:50,063 --> 00:13:52,212 I teach at the santa barbara ryder conference 379 00:13:52,212 --> 00:13:54,281 and I teach, you know, various workshops where 380 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:54,998 I'm called to. 381 00:13:55,809 --> 00:13:58,441 I'm teaching for a the Seattle study group 382 00:13:58,441 --> 00:13:59,739 coming up, and I 383 00:14:00,355 --> 00:14:02,509 teach at the local libraries. I've done some 384 00:14:02,509 --> 00:14:04,662 zoom calls with libraries across the country during 385 00:14:04,822 --> 00:14:05,221 Covid. 386 00:14:06,269 --> 00:14:08,493 I do. I love helping people find their 387 00:14:08,493 --> 00:14:09,922 story because I think we all have stories. 388 00:14:10,081 --> 00:14:11,351 It's just which 1 are you gonna write. 389 00:14:11,590 --> 00:14:14,051 That's that's sometimes a challenge for people. 390 00:14:15,338 --> 00:14:17,170 Right. Right. I know I you I think 391 00:14:17,170 --> 00:14:18,364 I told you last time we chatted it. 392 00:14:18,524 --> 00:14:20,276 I've been writing my memoir for 10 years. 393 00:14:20,833 --> 00:14:22,984 So it's like, it's been a work in 394 00:14:22,984 --> 00:14:25,391 progress and I think with my mom passing 395 00:14:25,391 --> 00:14:27,545 in March, on my family my birthday, which 396 00:14:27,545 --> 00:14:29,141 it was such a gift in in a 397 00:14:29,141 --> 00:14:29,301 way, 398 00:14:30,977 --> 00:14:31,477 that 399 00:14:32,029 --> 00:14:34,029 not her death, but she passed on my 400 00:14:34,029 --> 00:14:36,029 birthday. Like, it was just... There's this connection. 401 00:14:36,190 --> 00:14:38,370 This extra connection now, But 402 00:14:38,830 --> 00:14:41,081 she gave that final stamp to approval and 403 00:14:41,081 --> 00:14:43,231 said, you know, it's time. It's time to 404 00:14:43,231 --> 00:14:44,903 put it out there because it's gonna it's 405 00:14:44,903 --> 00:14:47,074 going to contain some of our ugly truths 406 00:14:47,211 --> 00:14:47,711 and 407 00:14:48,565 --> 00:14:50,647 approval So that was, yeah, Just such a 408 00:14:50,647 --> 00:14:52,475 gift from her as she left this world. 409 00:14:53,747 --> 00:14:55,893 Yeah. So it's true. And, again, I'm sorry 410 00:14:55,893 --> 00:14:57,006 to hear about the loss of your mother. 411 00:14:57,165 --> 00:14:58,530 I know a little bit about story. 412 00:15:00,115 --> 00:15:01,937 And so, yeah. I think it... Like you 413 00:15:01,937 --> 00:15:03,443 said, it's very important to get that, and 414 00:15:03,443 --> 00:15:04,972 that's 1 of the things I teach is 415 00:15:05,439 --> 00:15:07,275 get down to your emotional truth. It's very 416 00:15:07,275 --> 00:15:09,192 easy to, sort of readiness as to talk 417 00:15:09,192 --> 00:15:10,410 about stories and 418 00:15:10,948 --> 00:15:11,448 traveling 419 00:15:11,906 --> 00:15:14,381 and, you know, family trips and experiences you've 420 00:15:14,381 --> 00:15:16,884 had together. But it's not so much what 421 00:15:17,415 --> 00:15:19,795 what you did, but how did it affect 422 00:15:19,795 --> 00:15:21,461 you? You know, how did it make you 423 00:15:21,461 --> 00:15:23,150 the person you are? And 424 00:15:23,618 --> 00:15:24,118 why, 425 00:15:24,495 --> 00:15:26,886 you know, how how will you influence? How 426 00:15:26,886 --> 00:15:28,720 did you grow from it? And that's what 427 00:15:28,879 --> 00:15:31,682 I encourage in my writing workshops is to 428 00:15:31,682 --> 00:15:34,063 get down to the truth of the story. 429 00:15:35,015 --> 00:15:37,554 Right? Not just journalist in reporting it. 430 00:15:39,158 --> 00:15:40,912 But all you all can go through the 431 00:15:40,912 --> 00:15:43,543 same experience, but come out the other end 432 00:15:43,543 --> 00:15:44,818 totally different. You know, 433 00:15:45,535 --> 00:15:47,781 they've done so many studies on people going 434 00:15:47,781 --> 00:15:49,132 through a war and some people, 435 00:15:49,689 --> 00:15:51,278 you know, my dad was a holocaust environment. 436 00:15:51,517 --> 00:15:53,209 He was like, so happy to be alive 437 00:15:53,345 --> 00:15:55,507 where his brother was just and he just 438 00:15:55,507 --> 00:15:57,921 said no religion in my life ever because 439 00:15:58,617 --> 00:16:00,451 religion separates people. It makes wars. 440 00:16:01,407 --> 00:16:03,241 But his brother who went through the same 441 00:16:03,241 --> 00:16:06,294 experience became extremely religious. Oh, you know, I 442 00:16:06,294 --> 00:16:08,774 lost my parents. I lost this, and I'm 443 00:16:08,774 --> 00:16:10,535 just gonna be very religious, So they just 444 00:16:10,535 --> 00:16:12,934 went totally different routes, and 445 00:16:14,065 --> 00:16:16,049 that's the beauty of human Nature. We all 446 00:16:16,049 --> 00:16:16,763 react differently. 447 00:16:17,716 --> 00:16:19,303 Right. That's why I went back and got 448 00:16:19,303 --> 00:16:21,024 my degree in psychology because 449 00:16:21,464 --> 00:16:23,701 I have been through 2 horrific bank robber. 450 00:16:24,341 --> 00:16:25,939 1, a gun was held in my head, 451 00:16:26,099 --> 00:16:28,096 my coworker was stabbed 3 times with a 452 00:16:28,096 --> 00:16:29,535 hunting knife. They didn't catch them. 453 00:16:30,189 --> 00:16:31,945 And then 3 months later, they would come 454 00:16:31,945 --> 00:16:33,861 back to our main office where I had 455 00:16:33,861 --> 00:16:34,579 just transferred. 456 00:16:35,378 --> 00:16:37,693 Only this time, the perpetrator who had held 457 00:16:37,693 --> 00:16:38,890 the gun in my head would pull the 458 00:16:38,890 --> 00:16:41,472 trigger and murder my coworker. So I 459 00:16:42,322 --> 00:16:45,657 started experiencing severe panic attacks, horrific panic attacks, 460 00:16:45,816 --> 00:16:48,533 and really my mental health I really struggled 461 00:16:48,533 --> 00:16:49,647 with depression anxiety. 462 00:16:50,363 --> 00:16:50,863 And 463 00:16:51,317 --> 00:16:52,056 my mom 464 00:16:52,669 --> 00:16:53,703 had also been a banker, 465 00:16:54,594 --> 00:16:57,071 Went through 2 horrific bank robber, had a 466 00:16:57,071 --> 00:16:58,988 gun held to her head. So very very 467 00:16:58,988 --> 00:16:59,387 similar, 468 00:17:00,027 --> 00:17:00,926 but she 469 00:17:01,639 --> 00:17:03,709 was just took it as, oh, well, whatever, 470 00:17:03,868 --> 00:17:06,018 you know, life goes on, keep partying with 471 00:17:06,018 --> 00:17:08,009 my friends and having fun and life and 472 00:17:08,009 --> 00:17:10,413 just being, you know, her jokes herself and 473 00:17:10,573 --> 00:17:12,406 I sat there so fascinated like... 474 00:17:14,638 --> 00:17:17,290 Oh, have we have these very similar experiences 475 00:17:17,428 --> 00:17:18,327 and we're both 476 00:17:18,799 --> 00:17:21,912 handling it in such completely different ways. So 477 00:17:22,071 --> 00:17:23,689 I truly went back to school 478 00:17:24,067 --> 00:17:26,462 and got my degree in psychology just to 479 00:17:26,462 --> 00:17:26,701 learn. 480 00:17:27,914 --> 00:17:29,914 Like, what did you... How do... How does 481 00:17:29,914 --> 00:17:32,315 this happen? And so, yeah, to me. It 482 00:17:32,315 --> 00:17:34,555 is fascinating, but now I understand. 483 00:17:35,289 --> 00:17:37,669 Yeah. Trauma impact, you know, the impact of 484 00:17:37,669 --> 00:17:40,050 my early childhood had trauma and the way 485 00:17:40,050 --> 00:17:40,867 my brain 486 00:17:41,796 --> 00:17:43,835 process things as well as how I was 487 00:17:43,954 --> 00:17:46,828 storing that trauma. So, yeah, It is you're 488 00:17:46,828 --> 00:17:49,542 right. It is so very fascinating. How 2 489 00:17:49,542 --> 00:17:51,697 people can go through the same thing and 490 00:17:51,697 --> 00:17:52,596 and come out, 491 00:17:53,465 --> 00:17:55,395 completely different way of handling. 492 00:17:56,008 --> 00:17:58,154 Yeah. Yeah. Now I know in, 493 00:17:58,949 --> 00:18:01,436 your book that released yesterday, My Humming 494 00:18:02,144 --> 00:18:04,138 Do you you have prompts and in the 495 00:18:04,138 --> 00:18:07,009 book that that guide people the journal prompts? 496 00:18:07,966 --> 00:18:09,881 I do. I call them, there's the end 497 00:18:09,881 --> 00:18:12,128 of each chapter, there's 5 of them I 498 00:18:12,128 --> 00:18:13,478 think 13 or 14 chapters. 499 00:18:14,034 --> 00:18:15,464 At the end of each chapter, I have 500 00:18:15,464 --> 00:18:17,767 5 prompts, but I also call them reflection 501 00:18:17,767 --> 00:18:19,776 questions or prompts, because some people 502 00:18:20,563 --> 00:18:22,234 My brother love we just passed. I was 503 00:18:22,234 --> 00:18:24,622 always encouraging him to write his memoir. He 504 00:18:24,622 --> 00:18:26,532 says, oh, Diana, you know, I don't really 505 00:18:26,532 --> 00:18:27,805 write, but I'm... I love talk. 506 00:18:28,695 --> 00:18:30,524 I said, well, then just talking into a 507 00:18:30,524 --> 00:18:32,830 tape recorder, you know, so some people are 508 00:18:32,830 --> 00:18:33,705 better at talking, 509 00:18:34,261 --> 00:18:36,806 and so, unfortunately, he never did it. But 510 00:18:38,252 --> 00:18:40,156 So I, that's why I call them reflection 511 00:18:40,156 --> 00:18:41,981 prompts. If you wanna... They could be discussion 512 00:18:41,981 --> 00:18:43,885 prompts as opposed to writing, but, of course, 513 00:18:44,044 --> 00:18:44,679 as a writer, 514 00:18:45,329 --> 00:18:47,241 I I'd always encourage people rebuild for right. 515 00:18:48,516 --> 00:18:50,747 Yes. Yeah. Well to bring out, 516 00:18:51,783 --> 00:18:53,934 to be a little nostalgic and also, you'd 517 00:18:53,934 --> 00:18:56,261 know as a as a grandmother now up 518 00:18:56,261 --> 00:18:58,197 6. I really feel it's my 519 00:18:58,574 --> 00:19:01,286 role to continue my my legacy, and I 520 00:19:01,286 --> 00:19:03,918 want my grandchildren to know what what their 521 00:19:03,918 --> 00:19:06,804 family's been through and and the importance of 522 00:19:06,804 --> 00:19:09,038 following their passions following their heart. So those 523 00:19:09,038 --> 00:19:11,430 are the messages the Humming brought me, you 524 00:19:11,430 --> 00:19:13,584 know, listen since your heart, following your intuition, 525 00:19:13,823 --> 00:19:14,642 and that was 526 00:19:15,913 --> 00:19:18,387 something that, you know, I... That that has 527 00:19:18,387 --> 00:19:20,324 helping me survive through many, many 528 00:19:21,580 --> 00:19:23,896 physical and mental traumas for sure. 529 00:19:24,549 --> 00:19:26,700 Yeah. I think clarifying that. So looking it's 530 00:19:26,700 --> 00:19:28,771 the light too. You know, It's like, I 531 00:19:28,771 --> 00:19:30,603 gave a... My first reading on the weekend, 532 00:19:30,682 --> 00:19:32,275 and that's 1 thing I talked a lot 533 00:19:32,275 --> 00:19:33,014 about is 534 00:19:33,724 --> 00:19:34,923 So a lot of dark this in the 535 00:19:34,923 --> 00:19:36,201 world right in now, but 536 00:19:36,681 --> 00:19:38,119 you know, there's also a lot of light, 537 00:19:38,279 --> 00:19:40,916 and human in nature somehow goes to the 538 00:19:40,916 --> 00:19:43,403 dark this easier, but think we need to 539 00:19:43,403 --> 00:19:44,436 focus more on the light. 540 00:19:45,787 --> 00:19:46,287 Imagine 541 00:19:46,660 --> 00:19:49,758 and the universe that this magic happening is 542 00:19:49,758 --> 00:19:49,997 just, 543 00:19:50,871 --> 00:19:51,824 oh, we forget it. 544 00:19:52,554 --> 00:19:53,350 If you get to honor it. 545 00:19:54,226 --> 00:19:54,464 Right. 546 00:19:55,340 --> 00:19:58,148 I I truly believe that the pandemic has 547 00:19:58,444 --> 00:20:01,650 brought forth a big shift in people realizing 548 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:05,179 Oh, wait a minute. There's there's this 549 00:20:05,559 --> 00:20:06,059 beautiful 550 00:20:07,079 --> 00:20:09,720 part of human nature. We... We're just inundated 551 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,368 with the... Negativity in the darkness so much. 552 00:20:12,846 --> 00:20:14,202 But III 553 00:20:14,202 --> 00:20:16,195 personally just started to witness so many people 554 00:20:16,195 --> 00:20:18,269 rising up and starting to connect with that's 555 00:20:18,269 --> 00:20:20,432 that light and that that goodness. 556 00:20:21,383 --> 00:20:23,388 And I hope it I hope it continues 557 00:20:23,602 --> 00:20:24,102 because, 558 00:20:24,474 --> 00:20:25,821 yeah. We we need it. 559 00:20:27,184 --> 00:20:28,942 Yeah. Some people have a hard time, like, 560 00:20:29,262 --> 00:20:30,780 if they're not very special, I have a 561 00:20:30,780 --> 00:20:32,298 hard time just understanding what what do you 562 00:20:32,298 --> 00:20:34,296 mean by the light. And I guess another 563 00:20:34,296 --> 00:20:36,862 way of saying is just being positive thinking. 564 00:20:37,021 --> 00:20:39,249 Don't You think it's kind of like, just 565 00:20:39,249 --> 00:20:41,340 be more positive as supposed to 566 00:20:43,799 --> 00:20:45,970 the negative. I think that's another way of 567 00:20:46,504 --> 00:20:47,299 explaining the why. 568 00:20:48,095 --> 00:20:50,481 Yes. Oh, most definitely. I know, 569 00:20:52,167 --> 00:20:55,110 Well, when I started to shift away, I 570 00:20:55,110 --> 00:20:57,439 don't have panic attacks anymore. I don't experience 571 00:20:57,576 --> 00:21:00,458 anxiety on that. Her severe level. I mean, 572 00:21:00,937 --> 00:21:03,089 obviously, I'm human, so I have moments, but 573 00:21:03,807 --> 00:21:05,264 It it was 574 00:21:05,721 --> 00:21:07,018 shifting my mindset 575 00:21:07,648 --> 00:21:09,659 to 1 of positivity and gratitude 576 00:21:10,351 --> 00:21:10,851 that 577 00:21:11,384 --> 00:21:13,451 I was able to make my way into 578 00:21:13,451 --> 00:21:15,933 what I literally say up and on this 579 00:21:15,933 --> 00:21:17,528 show and to other people is, you know, 580 00:21:17,687 --> 00:21:19,283 finding my way out of the darkness and 581 00:21:19,283 --> 00:21:20,798 into the light. I mean, I I talk 582 00:21:20,798 --> 00:21:22,314 about it because to me, that's what it 583 00:21:22,314 --> 00:21:23,053 felt like 584 00:21:23,749 --> 00:21:25,939 was moving into this place of 585 00:21:26,552 --> 00:21:27,586 joy and peace, 586 00:21:28,381 --> 00:21:29,971 even amidst the chaos. I mean, 587 00:21:30,767 --> 00:21:32,278 life still happens, You know? In my last 588 00:21:32,278 --> 00:21:34,106 year with all the with all the deaths 589 00:21:34,106 --> 00:21:35,275 that occurred, but 590 00:21:35,634 --> 00:21:37,871 still able to stay in this place of 591 00:21:37,871 --> 00:21:38,590 joy and peace. 592 00:21:39,230 --> 00:21:40,907 Sure. Yes. Yeah. 593 00:21:41,547 --> 00:21:42,745 Way to survive, I think. 594 00:21:43,478 --> 00:21:46,205 You know, to. It's a survival mechanism 595 00:21:46,580 --> 00:21:47,296 It's otherwise. 596 00:21:48,727 --> 00:21:50,556 Yes. And, you know, also, I talk a 597 00:21:50,556 --> 00:21:50,795 lot, 598 00:21:52,642 --> 00:21:54,955 about rituals, importance to rituals, whether it's, you 599 00:21:54,955 --> 00:21:56,869 know, going for walk every morning and going 600 00:21:56,869 --> 00:21:57,507 for, you know, 601 00:21:58,225 --> 00:22:00,777 meditation, whatever it is that brings you joy 602 00:22:00,777 --> 00:22:01,415 searching for that. 603 00:22:02,548 --> 00:22:04,386 And that also helps bring out the light. 604 00:22:05,584 --> 00:22:07,980 Oh, yes. Definitely logged down, you know. 605 00:22:09,193 --> 00:22:12,008 Yeah. Yeah. So now 606 00:22:13,185 --> 00:22:16,378 you have gosh, 13 other books beyond the 607 00:22:16,378 --> 00:22:17,495 beat besides this 1. 608 00:22:18,150 --> 00:22:19,450 And are they 609 00:22:20,950 --> 00:22:23,289 all memoir related or 610 00:22:23,750 --> 00:22:24,250 or 611 00:22:24,549 --> 00:22:26,630 are their guy what what what is your... 612 00:22:26,789 --> 00:22:27,819 What is the general? 613 00:22:29,166 --> 00:22:30,750 I guess, I don't wanna say gist. 614 00:22:31,859 --> 00:22:34,889 But guides Yeah. The genre. Maybe the genre. 615 00:22:35,127 --> 00:22:36,080 That's it. Thank you. 616 00:22:36,953 --> 00:22:37,667 That's okay. 617 00:22:39,095 --> 00:22:41,055 Well, you know my background is so diverse 618 00:22:41,254 --> 00:22:42,450 I've had... You know, I just to be 619 00:22:42,450 --> 00:22:44,205 director nursing in Chronic care hospital. I had 620 00:22:44,205 --> 00:22:45,800 a degree in health. I have a degree 621 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,432 psychology. You have an Mfa. But my health 622 00:22:48,432 --> 00:22:50,506 path has all been about healing. So all 623 00:22:50,506 --> 00:22:52,779 my books have some kind of healing for 624 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:53,320 component, 625 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:55,980 but they are primarily, 626 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,400 memoir and poetry. Those are my 2 favorite 627 00:22:59,400 --> 00:22:59,880 genres. 628 00:23:00,454 --> 00:23:02,685 So I'd say, about half and half, You 629 00:23:02,685 --> 00:23:04,915 know, my last book writing for Bliss was 630 00:23:04,915 --> 00:23:08,102 all about helping people write their stories, whether 631 00:23:08,102 --> 00:23:09,377 it's a memoir essay. 632 00:23:10,109 --> 00:23:11,385 And that was more of about how to 633 00:23:11,385 --> 00:23:12,922 book. I think that was 634 00:23:13,937 --> 00:23:16,090 the only 1 that was really quote unquote 635 00:23:16,090 --> 00:23:16,568 how to. 636 00:23:17,605 --> 00:23:19,221 There's a little bit of how to and 637 00:23:19,774 --> 00:23:22,091 in the current 1 Humming messages from my 638 00:23:22,091 --> 00:23:23,769 ancestors and that there are writing prompts. 639 00:23:25,527 --> 00:23:27,365 So those are my genres of choice. 640 00:23:28,337 --> 00:23:30,091 I did a couple of ant apologies. I 641 00:23:30,091 --> 00:23:32,005 did 1 called writers on the edge, which 642 00:23:32,005 --> 00:23:35,513 is a compilation of writers who've struggled with 643 00:23:35,513 --> 00:23:35,752 addiction. 644 00:23:36,644 --> 00:23:38,882 And they each wrote essay that I did 645 00:23:38,882 --> 00:23:40,980 another 1 called. Writers in their notebooks, 646 00:23:41,758 --> 00:23:44,475 writers who do, journal, you know, and how 647 00:23:44,475 --> 00:23:46,156 the journal has help them over the years 648 00:23:46,156 --> 00:23:47,926 of their writing practice. So 649 00:23:48,458 --> 00:23:50,204 editing an essay essays is kinda like having 650 00:23:50,204 --> 00:23:52,767 a lot of children... Sorry, editing a ant 651 00:23:53,140 --> 00:23:54,981 journal I don't know not do that again. 652 00:23:55,140 --> 00:23:58,158 It's so hard. Just corral in 15 writers 653 00:23:58,158 --> 00:24:00,541 and bit making deadlines. It was it was 654 00:24:00,541 --> 00:24:01,812 a lot of work. I think with ball 655 00:24:01,812 --> 00:24:02,606 work and writing a book. 656 00:24:03,738 --> 00:24:06,611 Yes. Well, It warning but a lot of 657 00:24:06,611 --> 00:24:06,771 work. 658 00:24:07,490 --> 00:24:09,725 So funny, you should say that because on 659 00:24:09,725 --> 00:24:11,800 the 20 fifth, so in 9 days from 660 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:12,040 today. 661 00:24:12,693 --> 00:24:14,688 I am part of a collaborative book project 662 00:24:14,688 --> 00:24:15,406 that's launching. 663 00:24:15,884 --> 00:24:17,182 And it was 664 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,209 I was 1 of the writers, but speaking 665 00:24:20,209 --> 00:24:21,828 to the lead author who 666 00:24:22,606 --> 00:24:24,525 you know, was bringing all of this together, 667 00:24:24,764 --> 00:24:26,922 and, yes, talking to her about the process. 668 00:24:27,082 --> 00:24:28,760 And she was, like, I need a really 669 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:30,767 long map and all of this is done. 670 00:24:31,483 --> 00:24:31,801 Yeah. 671 00:24:33,630 --> 00:24:35,697 I bet she does. Yeah. By the way, 672 00:24:35,856 --> 00:24:37,129 I 1 is how I love the name 673 00:24:37,129 --> 00:24:39,767 of your podcast, the healing places. So suddenly, 674 00:24:40,005 --> 00:24:41,592 I... Whenever I see it or read it 675 00:24:41,592 --> 00:24:43,813 or and your picture on your, you know, 676 00:24:44,050 --> 00:24:46,906 emails. When my show is just relaxes, something 677 00:24:46,906 --> 00:24:50,032 very... Suddenly very special. I love I love 678 00:24:50,032 --> 00:24:52,828 that. No. Thank you. Thank you. Well, and, 679 00:24:52,908 --> 00:24:54,586 it's so... How did you come up with 680 00:24:54,586 --> 00:24:54,826 that? 681 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,075 Yeah. That's funny because I was working in 682 00:24:59,075 --> 00:25:01,072 a mental health agency. Like I said, my 683 00:25:01,072 --> 00:25:02,851 degree psychology, and 684 00:25:03,561 --> 00:25:05,950 a I was... Gosh, I wanna say, 685 00:25:07,064 --> 00:25:10,168 late forties, maybe just turned 50 period somewhere 686 00:25:10,168 --> 00:25:12,016 in that range. And I... 1 of my 687 00:25:12,016 --> 00:25:14,728 therapist friends, someone that just instantly became a 688 00:25:14,728 --> 00:25:16,722 sole sister was in her late twenties. 689 00:25:17,360 --> 00:25:18,876 And so we we hung out all the 690 00:25:18,876 --> 00:25:20,471 time and had such a blast together. 691 00:25:21,044 --> 00:25:22,399 And she had said to me, 692 00:25:23,116 --> 00:25:25,130 to we totally need to start a podcast. 693 00:25:25,587 --> 00:25:27,818 Then I was, like, awesome. What's a podcast? 694 00:25:28,137 --> 00:25:28,376 Because. 695 00:25:28,950 --> 00:25:30,710 I. I have never listened to 1. I 696 00:25:30,710 --> 00:25:32,549 didn't know what a podcast was. And so 697 00:25:32,549 --> 00:25:34,890 she and I started this up together, and 698 00:25:35,029 --> 00:25:36,630 we started it in kind of a really 699 00:25:36,630 --> 00:25:37,430 super funny. 700 00:25:38,084 --> 00:25:40,561 We were talking about angels and aliens, but 701 00:25:40,561 --> 00:25:43,037 also talking about anxiety and depression like we 702 00:25:43,037 --> 00:25:45,926 were just making just this. Whatever we wanted 703 00:25:45,926 --> 00:25:47,202 to talk about it, and we would literally 704 00:25:47,202 --> 00:25:48,877 sit in my backyard around a fire pit. 705 00:25:49,037 --> 00:25:51,430 So it was, like a terrible recordings. I, 706 00:25:51,509 --> 00:25:53,503 like, nothing professional there. We didn't have a 707 00:25:53,503 --> 00:25:55,826 good microphone. So it was was. 708 00:25:56,620 --> 00:25:59,239 It was just fun. And we started it 709 00:25:59,239 --> 00:26:01,619 and just kind of collaborated together. And since 710 00:26:01,619 --> 00:26:03,127 both of us, were working with kids, 711 00:26:03,938 --> 00:26:05,452 you know, in the healing arena, 712 00:26:06,408 --> 00:26:07,923 we came up with the healing place. 713 00:26:08,799 --> 00:26:10,791 It's just a place for people to gather, 714 00:26:11,523 --> 00:26:12,951 for healing tidbits. 715 00:26:13,823 --> 00:26:15,885 I love it. No. It's just... It's so 716 00:26:15,885 --> 00:26:17,868 simple. I love the simplicity and wisdom in 717 00:26:17,868 --> 00:26:19,789 it. You know? It's just it's not not 718 00:26:19,789 --> 00:26:21,944 a lot of words, but it says everything 719 00:26:21,944 --> 00:26:24,099 than it is. Which is not an easy 720 00:26:24,099 --> 00:26:26,254 thing to do. Oh, thank you. Thank you. 721 00:26:26,493 --> 00:26:28,740 Well, as you spoke said, All of your 722 00:26:28,740 --> 00:26:31,203 work is... You, you know, the genre is 723 00:26:31,203 --> 00:26:34,063 really it's healing related and, 0II so speak 724 00:26:34,063 --> 00:26:36,366 to that because my newsletter is called the 725 00:26:36,366 --> 00:26:39,005 hope for healing newsletter. I mean, healing is 726 00:26:39,005 --> 00:26:40,992 just such an integral part of what I 727 00:26:40,992 --> 00:26:42,423 call my soul work and the work that 728 00:26:42,582 --> 00:26:44,490 I do as well. So thank you. Yvette 729 00:26:44,490 --> 00:26:45,539 for That was a heart hug. 730 00:26:48,562 --> 00:26:49,834 So how are we doing our tank? Oh, 731 00:26:49,914 --> 00:26:52,240 my gosh, we 2 minutes left, so I 732 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,279 certainly wanted to give you an opportunity to 733 00:26:55,279 --> 00:26:57,920 talk about or address anything or leave leave 734 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,650 listeners with maybe... Something a prompt or something 735 00:27:00,650 --> 00:27:02,165 they can do along their journey. 736 00:27:02,804 --> 00:27:03,681 Mh. Sure. 737 00:27:04,957 --> 00:27:06,872 Well, the book is... That we've been talking 738 00:27:06,872 --> 00:27:09,759 about Call Han messages from it's a long 739 00:27:09,759 --> 00:27:12,799 title. Humming messages for my ancestors, 740 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,080 like a memoir with reflection and writing prompts. 741 00:27:16,894 --> 00:27:19,688 And so, hopefully, people that read it will 742 00:27:19,688 --> 00:27:22,003 be, helped to get in touch with their 743 00:27:22,003 --> 00:27:22,881 own ancestors. 744 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,117 And, you know, I can tell a lot 745 00:27:25,117 --> 00:27:27,044 about following your past I talk a lot 746 00:27:27,044 --> 00:27:28,340 about, you know, trauma 747 00:27:28,715 --> 00:27:31,101 and into generational trauma, and how we carry 748 00:27:31,101 --> 00:27:33,743 memories in our in our in our cells 749 00:27:33,743 --> 00:27:35,417 and in our bodies and they come forth 750 00:27:35,417 --> 00:27:36,853 in the most unusual ways. 751 00:27:38,767 --> 00:27:40,761 So if I'm to leave the listeners with 752 00:27:40,761 --> 00:27:42,276 a prompt, I would say, 753 00:27:44,447 --> 00:27:46,465 how would you like to honor your ancestors 754 00:27:47,723 --> 00:27:49,081 in the way that you live in your 755 00:27:49,081 --> 00:27:49,320 life? 756 00:27:50,133 --> 00:27:52,042 Yeah. I think that would be a good 757 00:27:52,042 --> 00:27:54,349 1. If that doesn't resonate, how about, you 758 00:27:54,349 --> 00:27:54,508 know, 759 00:27:58,426 --> 00:27:59,463 What ancestor... 760 00:27:59,862 --> 00:28:01,857 Have you ever connected with your ancestors and 761 00:28:01,857 --> 00:28:03,931 in what way do they present themselves? 762 00:28:04,823 --> 00:28:06,962 Yeah. Oh, that's so good. I'm gonna go 763 00:28:06,962 --> 00:28:08,230 journal today. I answer all those. 764 00:28:11,082 --> 00:28:13,480 I love it. Oh, my god, girl. Well, 765 00:28:13,719 --> 00:28:15,548 so how do folks connect with you where 766 00:28:15,548 --> 00:28:16,185 do they guide you? 767 00:28:17,298 --> 00:28:19,381 So I have a website and then... Diana, 768 00:28:19,539 --> 00:28:22,159 DIANARAAB 769 00:28:22,159 --> 00:28:24,405 dot com, and is a lot of 770 00:28:24,778 --> 00:28:26,524 information on the websites, all the articles and 771 00:28:26,524 --> 00:28:27,318 homes that have published. 772 00:28:27,969 --> 00:28:29,324 Also events coming up. 773 00:28:30,361 --> 00:28:32,354 I also have a monthly newsletter, and you 774 00:28:32,354 --> 00:28:34,289 can sign it up for 8 on my 775 00:28:34,348 --> 00:28:36,500 website, and the newsletters is full of all 776 00:28:36,500 --> 00:28:38,999 kinds of tidbits some journal prompts to book 777 00:28:39,291 --> 00:28:39,791 recommendations 778 00:28:40,876 --> 00:28:43,174 and to appearances as is. And so, you 779 00:28:43,174 --> 00:28:45,498 know, just to And they... Know has to 780 00:28:45,498 --> 00:28:47,656 do with healing and making yourself for the 781 00:28:47,656 --> 00:28:49,414 best possible person ever. 782 00:28:50,134 --> 00:28:52,211 Oh, well, I'm a speaker. I've been a 783 00:28:52,211 --> 00:28:54,150 seeker my my wife. So I tried to 784 00:28:54,625 --> 00:28:56,644 you know, share that knowledge with my 785 00:28:57,184 --> 00:28:58,545 my people. My tribe. 786 00:28:59,184 --> 00:29:01,745 They call it. I've not heard secret before, 787 00:29:01,985 --> 00:29:04,383 so it's your a seeker of knowledge, a 788 00:29:04,383 --> 00:29:06,288 seeker of wisdom and answers? 789 00:29:07,002 --> 00:29:09,145 Yeah. Yeah. It'd be better. 790 00:29:10,273 --> 00:29:11,549 Yeah. I like that. 791 00:29:12,427 --> 00:29:14,580 Alright. That's a new word for me. Right 792 00:29:14,899 --> 00:29:17,212 Resonating with that word. Thank you. He gets 793 00:29:17,212 --> 00:29:19,047 you too. I know. I was just gonna 794 00:29:19,047 --> 00:29:19,819 fit. I'm a seat. 795 00:29:20,496 --> 00:29:22,564 I saw saw him. Oh my God. Well, 796 00:29:22,723 --> 00:29:23,837 and I think that's why I would. That 797 00:29:23,837 --> 00:29:25,212 should be the name of my podcast. 798 00:29:25,746 --> 00:29:28,291 Oh, yeah. That would be great. The seekers 799 00:29:28,291 --> 00:29:28,664 place 800 00:29:29,184 --> 00:29:31,900 The sneakers 1 is. The si place meets 801 00:29:31,900 --> 00:29:32,779 the healing place. 802 00:29:33,657 --> 00:29:34,936 I love it. I love it. 803 00:29:36,309 --> 00:29:38,307 Well, it's just... As always, it's been a 804 00:29:38,307 --> 00:29:38,546 joy. 805 00:29:39,266 --> 00:29:41,503 Thank you for, yeah know, just honoring me 806 00:29:41,503 --> 00:29:43,421 with being here on the show and in 807 00:29:43,421 --> 00:29:45,674 sharing with my audience. It's... It's just been 808 00:29:45,674 --> 00:29:47,994 wonderful. Thank you. Thank you so much, Terry. 809 00:29:48,315 --> 00:29:50,875 Lovely. Happy New Year. Oh, you too. Thank 810 00:29:50,875 --> 00:29:53,595 you. Alright. Everyone. 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