Hello, everyone, Terry Well brought here of the
healing police podcast.
Hope you're having a wonderful day. It's gorgeous
here on Hilton Head Island south... Carolina airline
where I live,
looking out the window right now from my
office at the Spanish moss.
It's just swing. I hear a thunderstorm kind
of way off in the distance, starting to
roll in, which happens
on island. Sometimes it'll be in the distance,
and Never quite get here. I think the
ocean
the loop.
Way the currents and winds work that it
keeps it at bay. Here so we can
hear it. But
right now, the sun is shining, and it's
absolutely glorious out there it's hot.
But absolutely beautiful. So
hope you are having a beautiful day as
well.
What did I wanna share with you something
I was gonna tell you something, oh, so
My daughter,
I have 3 kiddo, and my youngest who
just graduated from high school and it's getting
ready to head off to college.
To become a pilot,
which is really cool because only 7 percent
of
pilots in the United States at least,
our women.
So she has been working on her private
pilot license
and study and studying and studying so impressed
with this kid,
working 2 jobs in the summer,
studying for this flying in her free time,
well she went to take her private pilot,
exam today
and got to the airport and
yep, everything was shut down because of this
big It
global,
Microsoft issue, I guess.
I haven't read a whole lot on it,
but
She got there, and they said, yeah. Our
systems are just shut down here at the
airport.
So Kiddo had to turn around and come
back home, so we took out to lunch
too
anyway, he celebrate all of her hard work
even though she wasn't able to take the
test. So now she just gets to study
a little bit more, and hopefully get this
in before she heads off. To college,
and walk in with her private pilot license.
So reason I'm bringing this up is I
still am doing...
I'm in
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know of a pilot or
know anyone who might
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Financial guidance as a pilot.
A lot of times,
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So...
But I have some products.
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I can certainly help you out with that.
So please reach out to me
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me
and email at info at terri dot com,
and we can get on a phone call
and have a little chat or even meet
by Zoom and meet face to face.
I would love to chat with you. Alright.
Today's episode,
again, always so very enlighten, but another wonderful
beautiful episode.
Love this conversation learned a lot again, myself.
Alright? Enjoy. To Welcome everybody to the Healing
Place podcast. I am your host, Terry well
Brock and happy to be back at this
again. I took a little Hiatus. As you
all know, for the past couple of weeks.
And
yeah. So super excited to have with me
today. Jennifer Mo Su, and she is creator
of Sw yu,
transformational expert and performance coach. And I just
talked to her few minutes beforehand and it's
just so super excited to have her sharing
her wisdom with all of us. So welcome,
Jennifer,
Thank you so much for inviting me to
join you. It's a pleasure to be here.
Oh, for sure. And again, I... I'm excited
to learn about... Sw you, and the inspiration
really behind it. And
what the Sw AGGR
stands for.
Well, you are right. It is an acronym.
And so I I like to think about
Swag in a couple ways. So 1, I
talk about Swag as,
it's not the dictionary definition of Swag that
most people think of. Because if you look
it up, it actually has things like arrogant,
and I mean, it's not very flattering.
And so I've literally defined Swag in a
completely different way. And
I'd like to describe it as if you've
ever... Experience someone who walks in the room
and literally just lights up the room.
And you're just drawn to them. There's an
energy about them and they have quiet self
assurance and and self confidence. And there's just
something about them. They know exactly who they
are. They're comfortable in their own skin. They're
una ap jed about it.
And if the waiter were passing by, you
would kinda tap them on the shoulder and
go, excuse me. Can I have whatever they're
having because I really want some of that?
Whatever that is. So it's that kind of
energy that comes from the inside that I
talk about as being swag. Whatever And I
also say that Swag is is not just
a word. It's a lifestyle. It's something that
has to be worked on and practiced daily.
And for that, I actually broke Swag down
and created an acronym, so use the word
to help you figure out what do I
have to do to get my swag. And
so Swag actually stands for self worth
Appreciation for your strengths and limitations,
gratitude for how your life experiences have helped
shape who you are,
grounded in your core values,
empowered to overcome self limiting beliefs and renew
through a greater focus on your passion and
purpose.
So that's kind of the the gist of
swag, but you also asked me about my
inspiration for it. So do you want me
to go into that piece as well? Yeah.
Yes. Quick. I just wanna say, well, popped
into my head was I've had people throughout
my, really my life that have said, Terry
radiate joy, Terry radiate joy and I've made
stranger stopping a parking lot seriously and be
like, gosh, you just radiate joy
like... And so... And but you just that
is so true. It wasn't... That I was
just born with it. I obviously had horrific
childhood,
enrollments in my childhood, I should say. And
But, yeah, it was practicing
gratitude. It was it was learning to go
through.
What I been through and you and I
talked a little bit off air absolutely. About
learning the lessons and finding the lessons. We'll
come back to that. But, yes, talk about
your inspiration.
So there's a about 3 different places that
I say that I've kind of been inspired
or that have inspired me to,
to kinda go in this down this path
and to create swag and the book, claim
your swag
and
The first 1 was my work with cancer
survivors. So when I worked with cancer survivors,
I was coaching them, and I found that
when they're in... Treatment,
surviving treatment becomes their whole life. They can't
focus on anything else.
And once they get past that
They are fundamentally changed by the experience. They
can't go back to who they were before,
and they really don't know where to go
from here. And I always wanted to help
them see cancer as the spark that creates
the rest of their life
instead of something they survived.
But then when I looked at that further,
I also recognize recognized that
that's not unlike any of us where we're
going through any kind of traumatic experience in
our own lives. So it's not just about
cancer survivors. It's about helping people learn to
get through and survive those experiences in their
lives take from them and become that much
better for them.
And so that was 1 of the early
operations for another 1 of the inspiration with
actually my older sister who passed away when
she was only in her in her thirties
And I always wondered if I had been
able to help my sister kinda see how
amazing she already was that she didn't have
to be somebody she wasn't. She didn't have
to try and please everybody else. She always
seemed to be 1 of those people who
was looking for
External reasons or
external ways to be happy.
Couldn't figure out how to be happy herself,
And
I just wondered if I've been able to
help her when she was still here, would
she still be here. And so I wasn't
able to help my sister, but I am
able to help millions of people today, and
that's what I'm trying to do.
And then the third piece was my...
My experience as a global leadership consultant, and
I spent the past 12 years or so
traveling the globe working with a... Aspiring leaders
all the way up to the c suite
of organizations
and designing and facilitating,
and delivering workshops,
experiential learning programs. So we learn best by
doing.
When we do things instead of being told
what the answers are when we come up
with the answers and solutions ourselves. And so
I really wanted to take all of that
knowledge and what I saw
when I saw those light bulb moments happening
for those leaders
and how could I package all of that,
plus what I learned with my sister and
my canon and the cancer survivors and put
it into
a program and a format that was applicable,
doable,
reachable
for everyday people who don't have acts access
to corporate trainers. You don't have access to
some of this information. So that was kind
of and then obviously my own life because
I've gone through this, and I live this
and practice it every single day. So I
literally practice what I preach every single day.
Oh my gosh. I love it. And and
again,
I love the idea of there's there's people
out there. I see it every day. I
hear it every day.
What do I... What do I do? Yeah.
I I don't know what to do And
so they're just gonna stand and stuck in
the mock as I say. It's right. Frozen,
not knowing and so when... Someone like, you
comes along and says, hey, take my hand,
and I'll help you... I'll help you take
that step out of the month. I'm not
gonna. I'm not gonna do. I'm gonna do
it for you. That's right. No. And that's
the thing about, claim your nurse swag and
the activities and the... Daily reinforcements in there.
These are things you can do right now
today. You can take a step right now
today if you want to. But the first
thing you have to do is decide that
you want to.
Decide that it's important to you, you have
to have that desire
to
be in a different place than you are
today. And I also think sometimes it's really
important to
before we can get to where we're going.
We have to acknowledge and accept where we
are.
You have to... I I like to think
of it kind of a little bit as
a Gps. I mean, there are 2 pieces
of information you to put into the Gps
to be able to get to your destination.
1, you have to know where you're going
because you have to know the destination you're
trying to get to,
But the other piece is your current state,
your current location. And so
acknowledge and accept where you are and side
do I wanna stay here or not? Is
this where is this where I wanna be?
And if not, there are things you can
do right now to change it?
Yes.
Now does it always have to be that
a person is going through a dark night
of the soul like, surviving cancer or something
or...
Can it just be they wanna shift in
their life? Oh, absolutely. It's as shift as
it... You don't have to go through
traumatic.
Experiences to get to a point where you
can say, wow. Now I can transform myself.
Transformation gonna happen in an instant. It's truly
a matter of you... Deciding,
acknowledging and deciding what you wanna do. So
taking the time, I think to reflect
siding and ask yourself some questions, am I
truly happy and fulfilled in my life right
now?
Am I status side with my daily life
with what that looks like, What it feels
like, The routine is, do I feel to
your point stuck in a rut? Am I
just going through the motions? Am I really
thriving every day. Do I get
when I get out of bed every morning
to go, okay. I'm gonna tackle the day
today, or am I just like, oh, gosh.
Here we go again.
And I think just taking a moment to
just ask yourself and be honest with some
of those questions.
Will give you a good sense as to
whether or not you're in need of some
kind of a shift in your life. And
only you can answer it. Nobody else can.
Right. Right. Yes. I had somebody
in the last few days who just basically
said,
here's my situation. What do I do?
Yeah. And I was like,
oh, gosh. I I could give you...
Like, I I wrote up all these ideas,
but it's like, III
can't implement these. I can't Yeah. Do this.
I mean, I have some ideas and suggestions,
but
that's... Yeah. That's such a personal
decision of
how do I take that first step?
Right. Where do I go? What's what's resonating
with me? Really? That's right. That's right. Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, on the... So on... Like, when you
go through this this program, the self worth
appreciation, does it have to be done in
a particular order or can... If some... If
somebody resonates with something and says, oh, wow.
I, like, the gratitude piece of it or
what whatever piece of it Like, that's what
I wanna wanna work on.
I I wrote it to meet people. I
wrote the book to meet people where they
are.
And it's it's the kind of book, so
claim your swag is literally the kind of
book you can
keep coming back to because you're gonna get
something different. Out of it each time.
Because you're gonna continue to evolve. And as
you evolve, you're gonna get something different along
the way. So out Ideally,
I like people to start with self worth
because it's such a strong foundation. If you
don't have a strong sense of self, the
rest of it's gonna be more difficult to
do. Now that being said, if something is
resonating with somebody, and they feel like gratitude
is the absolute best place for them to
start.
For me, just starting is the most important.
So wherever somebody resonates, whatever makes the most
sense for them is where they should be
because that's
whether it's there the universe speaking to them,
their higher power, whatever they wanna say. If
you're open to listening to what's really resonating
with you, that's where you should focus for
sure. Wonderful.
Now you do
transformational work? Obviously, with corporations and travel. Do
you do
work with sure like, in group coaching sessions
or with individuals as well? Both... I do
both. Yes. So
I'm getting ready to actually launch.
A program on u, which is gonna be,
I don't exactly know what I'm gonna call
it yet. But
we'll work on that part, but it'll be
kind of the the piece where people can
go through the journey, have some other people
to go through it with. So it's gonna
be a community based program
as well as that would be a weekly
coaching or a monthly coaching of, group coaching
session that goes along with it. So we'll
be digging into some of these topics and
being
answering people's questions
and going through some things so they can
get more detail, maybe even doing some live
coaching in the session where somebody volunteers to
be the person coached in session. So
oftentimes just listening to somebody else's experience,
we learn so much from. Again, that's that
experiential learning component. We don't always have to
experience it ourselves
to actually gain the knowledge and the learning
from it.
So,
yes, I do, and I also coach individuals.
Yes. I've been through a a group coaching
myself at a previous podcast guest actually, gifted
me the session with him. And well, it
was such a cool experience. Like, you're right,
Like, having that community, and it really was
such a powerful sense of community
as we communicated with each. And then it
it also... And I've talked about this a
lot on the show.
When we share our truths
All a sudden we realized, oh, there's other
people going me too, and we don't feel
so all alone. You don't feel so alone.
You're going through it together. You almost speak...
When I did some of this said deep
work
with leaders.
I found that they really truly almost became
like, there a family.
Even though they were... They walked into the
session morris as colleagues and walked out as
like brothers and sister, I mean, they literally
became family because you're sharing
some some pretty personal things about yourself, but
at the same time,
Because you're doing that, you're breaking down barriers,
you're connecting more as human beings and you're
becoming that much closer together.
And you don't have to share your deepest
darkest secrets with everybody to be able to
create those connections, but I've found that those
connections when we share some of ourselves
with people that
they are just some of the most strongest
connections that we can create.
Yeah. And they're really amazing to see. Yes.
Agreed. I had someone wants to talk to
me about... Vulnerability,
and
like, almost as if it was something that
I had to fix, and I was like,
oh I, no. No No. Like,
being vulnerable
and allowing that vulnerability
to
shine
is is really a gift to others because
you're... Yeah. You're right. It just
I must I'm smiling. I'm smiling terry because
it is something I had to learn.
Because, see, I'm a recovering perfection.
And I will be my whole life.
But because of that, and because of the
roles that I've played and you're in front
of all these leaders and you think you
have to portray this kind of
persona that you're you have to be seen
as the expert in the front of the
room
even though you're pulling the learning out from
others, you still have this... I had this
idea in my head of how I needed
to be portrayed and perceived,
And I had 1 of the most amazing
learning experiences of my life that is stuck
with me forever and really.
I mean, I I am so grateful to
these people for sharing this information with me.
I was at a session where we were
learning as facilitator,
how to become better facilitator.
And so we were giving each other feedback,
and I had the exact same feedback from
3 different people, and they said you need
to be more vulnerable in front of the
room. And I was looking at them going.
What what are you talking about? What are
you what's the matter? What are you talking
about? What do you mean vulnerable in front
of the room? And but I listened, I
was open to the feedback. I took it
to heart, and the very next day,
we each had an assignment to do the
next day, and I chose
to share a story, and I've chose to
share the story about delivering my sister's Eu,
which I had not shared
with anybody and definitely not in a public
place
since her passing.
And so emotions were pretty raw and I
kept them at bay, but you could tell
they were there,
and
I could see the emotion, in every person's
eyes in the audience and what I really
found in that moment, which was so profound
for me
was
this notion of being willing
to open yourself up and show your humanity
and show that you're real and show that
you make mistakes and show that you're broken
and show
that that's where we connect. That is truly
where we connect on that human to human
level. And I I would not be here
today. I would not have been able to
write claim your swag and share all of
the things about myself and my own life
in there? Had I not gotten
that amazing piece of information in my life.
Your Oh, that's so 1 beautiful story, and
thank you for sharing. Yes. And I I
talk about it so often about how that's
we're so... Soul connections happen and... That's right.
In that...
Sharing that vulnerability.
Yes. Or or showing, I guess, that... Well,
and for some people, so because I worked
across the globe, vulnerability
can be a very negative word in some
cultures because it's seen as weakness. And so
what I tried to help people learn is
that
if vulnerability as the word doesn't resonate with
you and your culture,
think about it as demonstrating your humanity
because it's actually courageous
to be willing to show a side of
yourself,
that demonstrates your humanity. It's not weakness. It's
actually courage, and it takes strength to do
it. So I tried to help people recognize
that you're not showing weakness. You're actually demonstrating
strength, and you're also demonstrating
that
you are
this
shows that you have a really strong sense
of self
and your self worth because you're willing to
share that with people. And you know that
you're not gonna fall apart in the process.
You know, you're not gonna something bad isn't
gonna happen because of it. You're actually willing
to go. I'm okay with sharing this with.
I'm confident enough in myself to be able
to should to let you see this side
of me.
So it's strength, not weakness. Yeah. Oh, for
sure. I could not agree more. And I
had just a funny little story that popped
into my head when you were talking about
perfectionism.
So when my boys,
my boys are now 30 and 28, my
older 2, kids.
Hold on.
And when they were little, we had this
play room. So we had a 4 bedroom
house, they each had a room, and my
husband, then husband and I had a room.
And
so we had this extra we made at
their play room. And I'd sit in there
with the boys. I was fortunate enough to...
We owned a company, so I was able
to work from home. And
be at home with with the kids.
And so we would just play with everything
in the room and everything was a mass
but every night not kidding. And boys kiss
them and read them their stories and, you
know, do their little nighttime routine. I'd go
into that room,
and the living know the little people, remember
the little people. Yeah. The... So, like, the
farmer would be flying the plane and the,
you know, and so I would have to
move
all of the plane people back to the
plane and put everybody back in their proper
seats and put the play. And then all
the... Like, the farm animals wouldn't be in
the jet or the camper
it they'd all be back on the farm,
and the fence would be back in place
holding them in. Like, everything was back to
perfect. Knowing that the next day,
they were going to come back in and
be kids and be like,
just but you realized that was your sense
of your need to exert control over things
that you had control over. Right? And I
realized that there was some... That was an
element of you going. I can't control everything,
but I can control this and pho. To
gosh darn it, I'm going to. Right?
I can put these things in their place.
Nothing else is in place right now, but
at least this is. And that I can
be okay with. I get... I totally get
it. I had to totally get it. Yes.
Yes. Yes. So yes, folks. If you're feeling
that way and putting those little plastic fences
but I get place.
Know that you're not alone.
Exactly I'm in a good company. And anne,
you can recover from it. You know, it's
it's okay. It's something you can... I I
think that's part of it too is acknowledging
these things about ourselves. And then figuring out,
How do we keep them from being barriers
to our progress?
I know this about myself? I know when
it shows up, I know when it starts
to, kind of
get in my way, and I can... I
now have coping mechanisms, you know, that I
create. And it's... It might be ways that
I talk to myself or phrases that I'll
say, or just things that'll get me to
snap out of that. Kind of mode and
go into a more productive place. So if
you're listening out there and you're feeling what
we're talking about, know that you're not alone,
and you don't have to to stay there.
You can create
working...
I would say... Coping mechanisms and things that
you can do to to move yourself forward.
So don't don't panic it.
Yes.
Exactly. Exactly. And you can, like, you can
make these shifts and you can make these
changes because I...
I left that marriage,
and
moved on to another relationship. It was just
so peaceful and calm and loving and inclined.
And then we have a daughter,
and wow, what a difference that play was?
We were... We was just like, what and
then that was leave it that way because...
Yeah. I I didn't need... Because you didn't
have that same sense of need. Right?
That's right. You you didn't have to exert
control in that area because there were other
things that were flowing.
Much easily, much more easily, and you didn't
feel that that so out of control everywhere
else in your life that you had to
exert control in certain places.
Yes. Yes. Absolutely. Yeah. 100 percent. And so
you help people really
recognize
if if they would come to you and
be like, oh my gosh. Like, I I
have to put my little people back in
their proper places.
I don't know what to do. That that
you can help. Start I start to ask
questions.
Okay. I start to ask some questions. And
so we kind of try start to uncover,
like, maybe why? Why is that taking place?
I I help people reflect on...
What's going on. III
meet them where they are,
and I encourage them to do the cell
exploration and discovery until we get to more
of the root cause of what's going on
and what might be caught... What might be
creating the situations they're dealing with in the
first place.
And then we start to identify collectively some
actionable steps, some things they can do right
now to start working on it to start
moving forward.
And it could be, like, even in claim
your Swag and the in the book, I
talk about when it comes to self limiting
beliefs. There's an exercise in there a little
routine...
Excuse me that I call reps
Rec like doing reps in the in the
wait room if you will. But it's... How
do we recognize,
evaluate and then pivot So recognize when our
self limiting beliefs show up, how do we
evaluate what they're saying because they are just
that, they're things we believe, but they're not
necessarily the truth or facts
and how do we create
a different thought pattern or something we say
to ourselves to help us pivot into a
more positive direction. So giving people some actionable
things something tangible that they can do,
to start working on whatever it is that
they wanna address.
And they bring it. So I don't I
don't
have a laundry list of things and go
check the box. What do you wanna work
on today? They're the ones that tell me,
here's what I'm really struggling with or here's
what I would really like to Gus in
our session today. And
so that's... It all comes from them. Wonderful.
Awesome.
Take our time. Wow. Alright. So I certainly
wanna give you an opportunity to talk about
anything that we haven't had a chance to
yet.
Well, I mean, for me, I just
I think the biggest thing that people need
to recognize
is that
they already have everything they need
to not only become the leader of their
life,
but to live their best life.
It's truly within their control.
And the first step is
recognizing. I think that we are the leaders
of our lives. So many of us don't
realize that. We think life is kind of
happening all around us and to us
instead of us realizing that for We actually
can control our thoughts. They don't control us.
And that means we can shift them. We
can change them. We can create new neural
path. Pathways. We can create new habits.
It does take time,
but we have the capability of doing it
So wherever people are, if you're feeling stuck,
if you're feeling
alone, you're not alone, first and foremost. And
secondly,
you have everything you need to become who
you would love to be.
I love it. And I... Again, well, we...
Brain re wiring, boy, my favorite topic. I
love it. Yes. It's so so true.
Well,
yeah. And it's just... I could sit in
here and talk to you for for hours
on annie. So appreciate you being here and
talking about this. How do folks connect with
you? Where did they find you?
The easiest way to connect with me is
through swag u dot com. They can they
can send me a a note there. They
can also go on swag u dot com
and take the Swag quiz.
The Swag quiz will it's really designed to
help
determine how you feel about your self and
your life and your circumstances right now. So
it'll give you a little snapshot of where
your swag is right now.
And that will also put them on my
email list as well so that they'll get
my weekly Swag sense newsletter where I just,
talk about my real life and things that
are happening, give tips and ideas and and
actionable steps on a weekly basis.
Wonderful.
Alright. Well, again, thank you so much. 1
for joining me here today and sharing your
wisdom, and
yeah. I just... It's just been joyous for
me. Thank you. Well, thank you for inviting
me has truly been an honor to be
with you and to share with your listeners.
My message, and hopefully, it sparks,
some some catalysts for change, hopefully.
Yes. Well, folks be sure to check the
show notes. I'll put links in there, and
you go over to the healing place podcast
Facebook page, I will put link for the
book as well, and
yeah, I'll put out the interview when it
comes... Out and all that fun stuff, so
you can you can connect with this. So
awesome.
Alright. Well, thank you, Jennifer. It's just been
wonderful
Thank you so much.
Alright. Thanks everybody for joining us today on
the Healing Place podcast.
Remember until next time, be gentle with yourself.
Thanks. Bye bye.
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