Hello. Welcome to the latest episode of the
Cosmic
Podcast with your host.
Myself, Dan Gunther, and my wife Laura Mats.
And the title of this 1 is arch
archetypes
America
and the guide to the months head.
Now,
1 of the most common questions people have
asked us especially recently is what you guys
think is going to happen with all the
craziness
in the world, where is it all leading
to and what can we or should we
do?
So on this episode, we will share some
of our views of what happening, see happening
from our perspective, but also from a bigger
picture perspective,
beyond
conspiracies, ci hopes and human or alien agendas
for. And I also wanna argue beyond just
a 3 dimensional political
perspective as well. So We will talk about
some current events, we will talk about the
more macro micro view, we wanna take a
also,
macro view. And also just as a preface,
you know, we will be talking about current
events. We will be talking about Donald Trump.
If you have Trump der arrangements syndrome, you
might not wanna into this
because we're just gonna... We're just gonna look
at it in forms of the symbols and
what we saw happening.
Well, but if you have any issues with
this figure called normal Trump in the context
of shadow work what we all about. We
bring it in is it's great practice and
exercise
to apply this work. So, yes, we will
talk about a little bit about this assassination
at Tampa Donald Trump. Right? Just to kind
of put in context
and then speak from a higher perspective, we'll,
you know, share some of people's theories around
it? Is he a good guy? Is he
a bad guy? Is he a savior or
a deceptive default save controlled up, trojan horse
for the Freedom movement and so forth.
And that context, we will also look into
the issue of the conspiracy mindset.
Especially if there's lack of inner working and
especially shadow work.
But more importantly, we'll also be in wanna
look at archetypes rising out of the collective
psyche and how people create their savior and
enemies
by the process of projected
identification and shadow projections. We also give you
some tools and suggestions on how to handle
the coming months because things are definitely going
to intensify. I mean,
Absolutely the Pluto return of the Us at
full force, which we have hinted and talked
about over the past few years as well.
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knee jerk reaction to the bulk left, which
we already see happening. It's fascinating and disturbing
at the same time. Right? When the pendulum
from 1 side swings too far to the
other side.
We'll also talk about Neil Howe latest book
about the fourth turning. Very interesting. We touched
upon this topic.
Sometime time ago, but he recently came out
with the new book.
And regarding this death rebirth of the Us
and how it affects the whole world, how
this also ties into pluto aquarius and the
pluto return of the Us. And then from
the real remarkable bigger picture perspective in regards
to divine will. The divine plan, how the
divine actually works in mysterious ways of wire
grace beyond our minds to grasp while we
are kinda of distracted only by the very
superficial manifestations
but none of us can truly see with
the eyes of the divine.
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Alright. So obviously, a lot has happened over
there just the past week or 2 weeks
on the global stage.
And just right now, by the way, today
is Tuesday, the 20 third around noon as
we recording this
podcast and the Us doesn't really have a
president it seems.
Joe Biden hasn't been seen in 5 days.
Just some weird recordings.
He's pretty really criminal ill sick or even
not a alive. We don't know. So that's
really fascinating how this turned around, but he
gave in his resignation over Twitter out of
all places. Right? This is really fascinating.
But we all know there has been an
assassination attempt on Donald Trump. Now,
not to dive too deep into all the
different conspiracies.
Because we wanna against it from a high
perspective.
But some people in the truth of community
believe that it was a staged event. Right?
Just with fake blood, No victims was organized
by the Trump campaign to
you know, make him out to be the
ultimate savior. Yeah. I'm more popular.
More popular.
So that would have been quite an Oscar
perform performance.
And now,
apparently carrying a fake bandage on his ear
according to some people.
And like you just alluded to the claim
is that the intention of the stage to
is to push the fake savior image of
Trump and that Trump is part of the
swamp like a controlled up. So that's 1
theory.
But I wanted to point out this really
fascinating for the first time in recorded history.
I would say that many corner unquote normally
and consensus people of the mainstream left, including
actor mark, Ham, known for Luke Skywalker on
Star wars and a popular
Msnbc news anchor,
and many others Keith Au, all mainstream
leftist
media people also inc and literally said that
the Trump shooting was staged to be fake
blood and there has nothing has happened and
was staged by the Trump admin administered by
the Trump. Team so to speak. Yeah. I
wanna say too. I said this, like, years
ago that Pluto and aquarius would be the
age of the conspiracy theorist. And I think
we can see that so strongly now where,
like, no matter where you lie on the
political spectrum,
everyone's into conspiracy theories. Exactly.
But we have to watch out. I've heard
there's, you know, just as we need to
question the mainstream, we need to question all
the conspiracies. And now
I think when
You have a certain conspiracy that completely is
an agreement with mainstream left media types, then
this may be also
time to kinda reflect it on bit just
my information. My insight.
But, you know,
my view is
based on recent information, it seems more likely
that the secret service allowed it to happen
or most likely even planned it as part
of the deep state agenda, The shooter was
most likely 3 letter agency, C0F fbi, Patsy
on m mk Ultra asset. Right? Just somebody
needed to be blamed, probably maybe I've been
other shooters.
There could have been another shooter and so
forth, But I would not claim to know
what exactly happened?
Because as I wrote in a recent article,
beyond staged or not staged. We wanna re
look at this event, also from a higher
perspective of the collective psyche revealing an archetype
that may help to inspire humanity, right? Out
of the necessity anymore of what we need
is maybe a more new and spiritual vision.
In the context of the evolution of conscience
divine well beyond what we think is happening
on A3D
political conspiracy
level.
Inter interestingly, there have also been some very
intense est logical transit around the time of
the shooting, which also affected Trump's
Directly, Laura will talk about this a little
bit as well.
But just talking about, you know Trump and
himself. Obviously is a very
controversial figure.
He's the target of both extreme negative and
positive shadow projections. Right?
He is the target of the projections from
the left conservatives and the truth of their
community alike literally billions of people on the
global level. 1 side sees him as Hitler
and dictator Right? What the mainstream left this
view
or in the truth of community, some people
see him as controlled off shall with ferry
a false savior. And then the other side,
I was more in the conservative, also some
a fraction of the truth and move seem
as the savior
messiah who can't do wrong.
Right? And most people are really caught up
in these over... Whatever I would claim a
very overs simplified, good or bad, either or
projections. Right?
Therefore fall into those cams.
But really regardless of what what really happened
at the shooting or whatever your you views
are on Trump, We can obviously see sense
and things are intensifying and heating up on
a
global level, and especially in the Us. We
are an intense time of transition and at
the tail end,
of the pluto return
of the Us. I think it's also heating
up in Europe too all over the world
as well. And I also wanna know that
Trump does play a collective role. If you
look at his astrology and the twelfth house
and what he taps into. He taps into
something in the collective mind and the collective
psyche as well. And I think that's what
makes him the target of, like, just the
vast like, array of projections. Like, some people
see him as literally, like, jesus saved him
and God saved him and some people literally
think that he's like, Satan or Hitler and
Inca. Yeah. So it's very fascinating.
We... Not neither of us have Trump der
syndrome.
I also don't believe that any single
politician is going to save us. I think
that we get the politicians that are representatives
of what the collective needs or what represents
the collective. Yeah. And so we're gonna look
at this symbolically
rather than be, like, okay, this is with
this is who we like. This is who
we don't like. Because, honestly, I really have
stepped back from all of this and I
just kind of observe and watch at all
objectively,
and most of all, like, just
anytime you are in the presence of someone
and you see them as all good or
all bad, you most likely are in the
presence of a project. So I think it's
really
important to
not put people, not either idol people or
demon people in that way. And the moment
that you are either idol utilizing or demon
icing someone, whether it's a celebrity or public
figure or whether it's like your mom or
your dad or your ex boyfriend or your
husband or your wife, you know, you know
that you're in the presence of your psyche
overlay some sort of for on them. It
doesn't mean that people doing do bad things.
It doesn't mean that people do don't do
good things. We're talking about the polar polarity
when you go all good, all bad
basically, the moment that you do that, and
you see all bad in the world out
there,
you're
automatically splitting where you're the p of all
good or the other way around. So we're
gonna really look at this as a more
psychological
looking at from a more depth psychology
perspective rather than just saying Trump is this
or Trump is at? That's why I on
the side, Now, that's why head work we
always say it's the name of the game,
but it's easier said than done. Right? Has
been also already diluted.
Shadow work. It's extremely difficult. We have talked
about this this is part of the work
we do as well. Because your mind will
automatically
consciously unconsciously
rationalize
your projections of why you think this an
evil person why think and it will look
up for exactly that through your bias, which
we all have to unconscious to van degrees
to justify your projections or ideas of why
the person is the way he or she
is.
And and I think it just to finish
it off. And then you can literally
the Psyche is always revealing that because
the the biggest illusion we live in is
the outside world is separate from a inside
world. So we kinda the psyche rep
almost gives you more reasons to project until
you make the opposite conscious within yourself. Yes.
And I think that the most important thing
is that we're dealing in a time of
chaos where it seems like a lot of
material
from the underworld from the collective deep collective
unconscious is rising up into consciousness,
and we're in an era, we're just a
lot of shadows are being revealed, and we
think it's all being revealed externally, but it's
actually also happening as an internal process.
And I know because I've spoken to a
few people
who've used this the chaos for inner work.
They've experienced tremendous amount of growth,
understanding in themselves. They've evolved in ways that
they'd never could imagine him because they're using
the chaos for that. But then I've also
seen on the other side of the coin,
people who are completely dis and identifying with
the chaos, and they're falling apart, they're splitting,
they're fragment. They're really traumatized.
Their this constant state of projection. So, you
know, there's an opportunity right now where you
can use the chaos for
transformation, or you can get swallowed up with
it. And I think that's the choice that
we each have to make. By notice seen
how we're engaging with what goes on And,
like, what is your relationship to change the
chaos to uncertainty. Mh. And I think people
have all sorts of coping mechanisms where in
we are in the face of chaos and
change and uncertainty.
And so people want to pull themselves towards
certainty, whether that's grasping on a certain conspiracy
that they think is the absolute truth that
gives them a sense of certainty.
Or it's joining some sort of cult or
joining some sort of dogma
religion that gives them certainty they're gonna be
saved.
So I think that a lot of us
are being called to just be in the
chaos, an uncertainty and be in that melting
pot and find an inner center
without grasping on to external things, whether it's
a savior in the form of a politician
or religion or a certain theory that we're,
like, all this conspiracy
analysis
is exactly what's going on. You know, I
think that we're all trying to find that
certainty in our own way. Rather than just
resting in the idea that we don't know.
That's a really good point you made that
just on the side note that you have
to watch out especially, I would say in
the call so called truth movement on Because
the truth of movement
by default, many people consider themselves quote and
got awake. Right? But I've written this many
times before I've seen in myself just because
you think you see what's going on on
a conspiracy level and see if for the
si ups doesn't mean you're quote and quarter
awake. It can get entangled with your own
projections. Your own need for certain unconsciously as
Laura just talked about to avoid the inner
to avoid the facing your inner friction and
avoiding to hold the tension of opposites within
yourself. Yeah. But I don't think knowing mentally
what's going on in some Zara represents an
awakened that's what awakened view reality in any
way. Like, it's it's it's a level... It's
your level of being your consciousness changing, you
becoming capable of holding more light from the
divine and expressing that in a creative way
and your purpose, that is awake. So being
aware of being in an a paranoid, black
pill mindset and being aware of all the
different secret societies and groups
to me that's not awake. In fact, that's
another
almost some sa trap that I think people
have been caught it. And I'm not saying
that these things... There isn't truth to some
of these theories or whatever,
I'm just noticing that from a level of
consciousness level
that if you're getting more paranoid,
more fearful,
more cut off from your own heart and
your own relationships, Mh. Not being able to
take care of the basics of your everyday
life, which I've seen in a lot of
people who,
you know, seemed to have figured out the
entire world. I think that Sometimes there's even
a need to really step back from the
chaos and just focus on yourself because I'm
just noticing a lot of people spiraling
into a really dark place through being exposed
to dark truths about the world, which is
totally understandable, but it's almost like they're being
swallowed up by, like, an arch evil
without actually really noticing what's going on within
themselves and relationship to that. Yeah. New cram,
I talked about this before call it getting
caught up in the second matrix almost in
the dis
labyrinth of your own mind.
Disconnected from self from the divine and just,
you know,
seeing conspiracy types and everything out, there as
kind of a wet tic is a bit
taking over. Yeah. And it's also an stream
negative
orientation where it's like, you just see luc
and the second coming of Satan and demons,
and it's like, you know, when I...
Like, it's just... It's a very negative
orientation and there very negative filter to see
the world through. You know, everything's... They're trying
to poison us. It's evil,
rein as a trap.
We're in a prison planet. Like, all of
these, like, to victim. Yeah. It is a
victim which you'll talk about in in in
a moment. So we need to really realize
that the lens that we see the world
is really important now or collective level of
consciousness really matters now. And as it gets
more chaotic,
the more that you att to the outer
world, you're just gonna become chaotic. You're. And
I know this because I noticed this myself
when I spend too much time on Twitter
or whatever, and I have to return to
myself and find things that ground me and
find things I love doing in every day
life. So I think it's really important to
also be aware that we are in a
type of psychological
warfare, a type of information warfare right now.
And how it affects us psychologically
emotionally and spiritually
is actually an indicator on, like, if if
we're in the right... Going the right direction
or not. So if we're going into a
more place of fear and paranoia and dis
trust,
and feeling dis regulated,
it's usually time to step away. Exactly.
And let's do this. And also on the
side note, when you're... We are on the
fifth generation psychological warfare for information Warfare it's
a war over your mind and consciousness
hence and we have talked about this before
even wrote an article about this the most
important skill for 20 24 and beyond.
You know, the antidote, your weapon or defense
against psychological warfare is knowing yourself, your own
psychology, your psyche
spiritual work, psychological work, so you're connected to
yourself.
If if that is that inner work is
not
balanced out or the out work balanced out
with the inner work, you get caught up
in all kinds of traps while you dream
of being awake. Yeah. Okay. Let's talk about
archetypes. Well, no. We're gonna talk about Trump
assassination first and just to cover that a
little bit and and the transit his card
in the transit. Let's do that. Perfect. Yeah.
So it was very interesting because
It was it was actually crazy to witness
because me and a couple est astro friends,
were actually discussing this Mars uranus conjunction
which happened 2 days before the... On exact...
2 days before the
assassination attempt, which is exactly consumed fixed star
a,
an a has very negative
connotation and traditional product. It's known as the
demon star It has associations with violence, murder,
losing your head is 1 of the interpretations.
And what was fascinating is that this conjunction
was exactly almost exactly can junk Trump's mid
heaven his career and square his middle... Nato
Mars in the first house his body.
So there was a direct attack of violence
on his body that was happening in a
public way. And then also the literal
interpretation the losing your head interpretation of A,
the shot g his ear and was, like,
apparently a quarter of the From being fatal.
That was very fascinating.
And then on top of it, the pat
of assumed patsy
Thomas Crooks. So the guy that was killed
on the roof
by the sniper
who we assume was the person was the
only shooter. But that's being questioned right now.
He also
had a Mars Uranus King Conjunction in his
nasal chart.
He was born in the summer of 2003
during a very rare Mars, retro grade con
conjunction uranus in Pis and aquarius.
So she had that Na too. So, you
know, if you have that Natal
aggression
instinct could be very unpredictable. So you know,
he's just a bit of a maybe a
wild in some way,
very fascinating. And then let's go deeper.
Then,
you know, a few astro have looked at
the
shooting of Donald Trump and then we've looked
at his na chart
so Trump's na shah in,
meaning we're comparing the 2 charts with Thomas
Crooks. This is also very fascinating.
Where his... This... The shooter, Mars you're in
is conjunction anal. So quick, as soon as
chart is you overlay trump's chart with the
but exactly. And see the relationship between their
their their planets and the aspects.
So
his Mars urine is conjunction, the shooters
falls directly on Trump's
descendant, seventh house, which means it opposes his
his his ascend. Very fascinating because Mars
opposing the the ascend is a transit where
there could be violence against the self. I
know for myself actually. I think it was
a Mars
was it a pluto on my...
I don't know. But I've I've I've read.
I think him was maybe even ernest Hemingway
where way. For example, Ernest Hemingway way killed
himself when Mars was opposed his... Or Mars
was con concerned opposing his ascend. So violence
against the self, it's very fascinating. So this
Mars urine is conjunction literally shows up multiple
times
in it.
And then beyond that, we'll talk more about
his chart in the second hour,
but it was very interesting because you know,
the transit,
the... It was almost like, like, I had
a sense before this happened, even discussing this
upcoming transit con junk a goal and the
negative connotation with it. I knew it was
gonna be on Trump's mid heaven. And I
just thought that something was gonna happen at
the Rn and c
convention that happened a couple days later.
But this was such a literal
interpretation of a alcohol. A lot of astro
were basically
on on it right away because they could
see it so clearly.
And, you know, a lot of people say
that
you know, it was a deception or it
was fay staged or whatever, but that would
actually be a neptune transit. There was a
lot of aspects in what I was just
explaining or elements of what I was just
explaining that suggests that there was gonna be
something violent or something aggressive or something unexpected
happening, and that's exactly what happened. Yeah. Yeah.
I remember, like, you said that now, Other
str
claim because by this, looking at this
transit
in in context of Trump's chart, even the
shooter chart almost shows them with Past life
connection who knows
I'm saying, you cannot see things on face
value based on on A3D limited tunnel vision
of what we think is happening.
And, you know,
becoming very over generalized. Though so this was
stage why? Because they always do this or
what are the odds, you know, of of
Trump the bullet missing Trump? Well, there's divine
grace that can be all kinds of things.
Yeah. But what I've heard also from you
saying in other charges, they even said that
really in death analysis of the chart,
the trends that show there was a real
event It was not a staged event because
there would have been Neptune involved with which...
Deceptive element, Yeah. Which
Neptune is kinda
deceptive element could bring into the chart reading.
Right?
Yeah. What I wanted to also add as
far as a Car
connection,
Yes, I do see that too because fascinating.
This tom chris k guy,
he actually has a south node in Scorpio,
which to me suggests this guy was coming
from some traumatic past, like, of some sort.
Could be also indicating Mk ultra programming?
They're can... Oh, yeah. There can be all
sorts of dark secrets, whatever. Mh. But it's
exact... It's it's it's like a couple degrees
junk, Trump's I see.
Which is the the
your inner, your inner self, your home, your
family, while his north node in Taurus was
constructed Trump's Mc. So what he's achieving info
for is because of Trump's public role Mc
But then also, if I were to just
hypo
about a Car connection, I would hypo,
this guy was actually Trump's
either a sibling because it's in the third
house
or a part of his
overall family in a past lifetime and something
back.
That's my own personal. Said people may laugh
about it. People made dismiss us... People who
dismiss astrology never really studied in in death
First of all,
But that's what I'm saying. We need to...
We are multi dimensional beings. There insane
cosmic forces lost, ka jack trees over a
lifetimes intersecting, which is way beyond the mind
to comprehend. Yeah. You cannot add filter down
to this. This is conspiracy. This was staged
to set up
Trump is the default savior. Can you see
the limit... Insane
limitation and overs
simplification of it? Right? Yeah. I'm mean he's,
I don't think he's either. I think he
plays a very fascinating role in the collective.
I think it's very interesting how he's kind
of the prime
kind of
presidential candidate
during the pluto return. So to me, I'm
just
observing the certain themes. So let's talk about
archetypes. Yes because I think this is actually
really important
to get into. So based Yeah. Doing just
find it request so people understand. So according
to Carl Jung, the collective unconscious is expressed
through universal archetypes. And archetypes are signs symbols
or patterns of thinking and or behavior,
the show through cultures and generations.
Archetypes also have a dual nature existing both
in the psyche of an individual and the
world at large.
Just to give a quick quote from
the handbook of young psychology theory practice and
applications by papa Do.
He says archetypes are innate universal conscious psychic
dispositions, allowing humans to react in a human
manner as they form the substrate from which
the basic themes of human life emerge. The
archetypes are components of the collective unconscious and
served to organize
direct and inform human thought and behavior.
Archetypes hold control of the human life cycle.
Yeah. So basically, their universal patterns are also
psychic symbols which manifest
indirectly through images, ideas and behaviors, and there
represent the contents of the collective unconscious.
Meaning they affect and inform humanity in mass
through influencing the way we think, how we
act,
So... An archetypes is not actually something that
it's the word I believe was defined as
an aspect of the collective unconscious by Carl
Young.
However,
Plato doh,
good day. Is that how I saying Right?
Yeah. The... Like, they they actually started to
point out that those was universal patterns that
that were
across time. Yeah. So this is not... He
just defined in a different way. And so,
you know, for example, in most major religions,
you see common themes common symbolism, at least
if you're open enough and a non dogma
automatic framework and you can notice it. Right?
So you see the common themes in all
of the religions. That's an archetype presenting itself.
You see them in fairy tales in mythology
in culture like art and movies. So there's
certain characters and core themes
which blaze basically play off across time and
space in various forms, their universal symbols and
they belong to the collective unconscious
and they rise and fall during certain periods
of times when they are needed. Mh. So
just as a side note, I wanna give
an example of that. And this is actually
something that Carolyn mis said.
She said that princess Diana
actually held the archetype of the queen in
her, and it was a very rare archetype.
But when she died,
it was so tragic for people because it
was actually the archetype of the queen who
died, and they saw that as a death
of the queen. So that was it was
so powerful because it wasn't just what Diana
was a person. It was what she represented
Arch ty.
That was so powerful. And then fascinating,
look at the whole lineage
since then. I mean, unless you're a royal
list and you have a different opinion,
you haven't seen someone yet body that archetype
like her since then. So there was something
that left. So that's what I'm trying to
point at that they rise and they fall
as needed.
And Mari on France has a really
great quote about this. I'll just quote her
really
Really quick. She says the individual 2 as
we might discover by taking a core of
his depths, carries within him stored in as
unconscious.
The entire historical past, of was people, even
if humanity as a whole. So you store
these in your cell... In your own unconscious.
And
That's why certain symbols have power over. That's
why we can even dream
about things that we've never seen in real
life. Like, so say, like, you've never gone
to church.
Or never had any relationship with, like, Christianity,
for example. But then as a child, you
dream of, like, across or, like, being in
a church. That's because that symbol is latent
in the collective unconscious, and you can access
it at any time without direct experience of
it. That's the whole point. So when a
symbol arises in our lives
through personal relationship with an archetype or the
collective,
we wanna consider that it's being brought into
consciousness for a reason.
And,
you know, archetypes really point that there's pattern
behind life. There's a cosmic design that's trying
to guide us. And in order to really
understand the archetypes rising, we have to take
a step back. We have to look for
the symbolism behind what we're witnessing to. We
have to often withdraw our projections. We have
to look at how our own personal and
unconscious and our own personal complexes can also
have a relationship with these archetypes,
but we really have to be able to
ultimately look at things objectively beyond our likes
and dislikes,
notice the symbols are arising, notice the effects
on culture,
the people and the world.
So that's most important And so that's what
we're gonna discuss in a moment, especially in
relation to what we saw happen with this
assassination and just generally, the world stage.
I also wanna make an important note that
archetypes are bipolar,
so they can appear positive or negative from
1 moment to the next from 1 person
to the next,
based on the material in that person's personal
unconscious. So the mother archetype, which you have
a personal version of that's in relationship to
your own mother, any nurturing figures, any mothers
you've seen in film,
just a collective motif of all the mothers
that you've experienced, including your own, can be
like a nurturing caring mother, or she could
be like a wicked witch.
So how we relate to the archetypes also
taps into own personal unconscious and own personal
complexes.
And that's what you kind of see with
Trump actually is like, Some people see him
as, like, the hero,
you know, like, just god appointed,
etcetera, and some people literally see him as
Hitler. So look at the vast
spectrum of the archetypes that he's bringing up
in people.
And then this brings me to another great
point by Thomas Moore in Warrior Magician king
where he argue that each archetype has a
full and the highest expression, Mh. As well
as a dysfunctional shadow. So for example,
the king
which, you can also see as like the
president, for example, Like we don't have kings
anymore, we have presidents. The king can be
a tyrant. That would be the shadow side,
or he can be, like, a child like
ruler. Like, I don't know if ever anyone
seen game of thrones. I only saw a
few episodes, but you know, Prince Joffrey and
game of thrones. He was like this little
kid who was, like, a tyrant. That's the
less evolved side of it.
And then the warrior, which is actually part
of the hero archetype, can be a sad
or a mas, so a Sad mean he
just, like, let's, Sad means, He likes to
inflict pain, mas means that he likes to
receive pain,
and he can be less evolved and be
a bully or a coward. So if a
warrior is a bully then that's also the
less outside of it. And then I also
see that in Trump actually where, like, people
see him as a bully
you know, maybe he in some ways he
is. I don't know enough about him personally,
but they see him as this tyra warrior
bully. They also see him as being a
bit of a sad as well.
And then on the other side of it,
people literally see him as, like a warrior
hero, especially in what happened in the assassination.
So you know, you can see the kind
of the whole
dimensions of the archetypes coming forward.
The magician, which I also see him Trump
by the way. Can be a manipulator. That's
a shadow side, or a know it all
tricks her that's the less evolved side. And
honestly, I can see all of that in
him and, like, I think he's definitely got
it. Gemini.
Gemini. That's classic Gemini archetype. I think he's
got many sides to him. I think that
you actually have to be a bit of
a magician to play a politician role somebody
made a really good point. I forgot is
a... I was a researcher famous influence on
on Twitter.
He gave, like a electron Trump.
And basically Pee asked him about his view
trump and by come the conclusion that Trump
is also a very complex character. You cannot
just isolate into this 1
project identity of who you think he is.
Yeah. Right? Yeah. You know, even lucas because
his chart and who knows what forces are,
using him,
I'm not talking about any conspiracy
hidden forces behind him that he's part of
the swamp, but even like he can be
become be an instrument of the divine as
well.
Even through his distortion. Now this it... Not
that he's appointed by God. That's what the
Christians project onto him. Yeah. But, you know,
with Let's say with this
assassination what happened then, let's put aside that
the idea where there was staged because it
doesn't seem to hold ground on many levels.
Let's say it was a real event and
it failed through whatever divine intervention grace,
you know,
it seems more likely that it was a
failed assassination attempt.
The way he stood up right after and
faced the crowd and scream fight fight fight
that was the rise of a very powerful
hero,
which I saw
inspire millions of people.
Right? Like something like you would say the
the psyche almost revealed
the arch typo, American spirit as well of
courage and bravery.
Yeah. That's what he was. That Was kinda
of the representative
archetype on many levels, which inspired people in
the on the personal level. Yes, Then they
can project even more source sa qualities and
he's anointed by God, but in that instance,
what I can see in the world what
we need even your individual life is courage
and bravery
beyond political
identification and any of that. I wanna add
the 1 more thing though to that point.
So... Because archetypes are I meant to inspire
us, but young really pointed out that there's
a danger of
identifying with an archetype Yes. So the issue
with identifying with the ad dark archetype is
it makes our ego become very inflated. So
if you see an image of Christ, in
a dream or an ayahuasca a ceremony, and
then all of a sudden, you believe that
you are the second coming. That is an
identification with an archetype. So it can make
you believe you hold special powers. You're... You
can be subject to grand fantasies and na
ism.
So
I don't think I haven't not yet seen
Trump do this, but
because he was activating this kind of courageous
hero archetype in the moment,
the the danger if he were to identify
with it. Would it be, like, I'm the
second but I'm appointed Point
Yeah. We have to keep in mind that
even seen this archetype. Right? Seeing something or
courageous or an example of a hero, there's
also the danger if people seen that I
over identifying with it, and then also becoming
subject to inflation themselves, and they can also,
you know, it can it can basically maybe
see. It can be a form of repo
possession Like, you could be, like, you know,
you could see that and be like, we
have to save America and, like, you just
get so inflated and, like, go out and
like, do something crazy. Right? Because you're so
Mh. Pumped up by the energy of the
archetype. You were never meant to completely identify
with it, you're let it move, change you
affect you, but you also to realize it's
not part of you. Very good. Yeah. So
that's why young stressed, a healthy ego was
necessary to work with the archetypes. Otherwise, your
ego could be subject to inflation or even
possession.
And a healthy ego basically means a certain
flexibility when you're working with your unconscious material,
a curiosity
So rather than like, seeing an image of
Christ in your dreams and thinking, oh, I
am Christ. You know, being like, oh, that's
interesting. Why would Christ present itself to me
am my I unconscious. So you have a...
Symbol... Flexible
interpretation of what you're seeing rather than a
fixed like, this means I am christ idea.
It also means you have an accurate self
image,
self knowledge, and humility.
So when you get moved by a hero
and a movie or certain character. You're most
likely relating to that archetype that he she
plays, and it's important to reflect on this
because the archetype may
represent qualities within yourself that your soul would
like to discover, but you also don't wanna
think that you are just that archetype
Otherwise, you could be subject to possession or
inflation, which is danger of it. Because they're
more powerful Than your own personal unconscious. Yeah.
Storefront interrupting, but very, very important good point.
Now type is there to inspire you,
and that's what I see with what from
the Arctic guy I wrote with archetypes and
and the Van grace. And what that there
was a very powerful that in inspired a
lot of people and they've in that way,
And I clearly also separated from the savior
image or even political
affiliation, you know, projections and all of that.
But to inspire courage and brave, we having
said that 1 said, you can completely identify,
even projector more to Trump, we see this
already, like, people making
Trump this holy person who has been anointed
by God
through that. That's the projection.
Right? Or the other side that he's the
extreme actor deceive,
deceptive
staged, you know, and project the other opposite
onto him, which is basically the villain.
I mean, a lot of this is actually
a classic
example of Cart
drama triangle, which was
his way of describing what happens when people
are employed in a pathological
conflict.
So you see
1 of the biggest
archetypes we see, which is actually present in
all of us,
essentially,
is this victim
archetype. So you see this on the left
where they've basically elevated the victim to a
hero, which the victim is not. So this
whole
oppression olympics and the more disabled you are,
the more or the more,
bi ratio you are or the more seemingly
oppressed you are, ultimately the more power you
should get give through this whole diversity equity
inclusion thing. So we've seen an elevation of
the victim archetype. On the left,
where the victim is now worship.
And also,
I would argue on the truth side of
the
coin, the more conspiracy minded
They also... There's also 1 identification with the
victim where they... Believe that the deep state
and illuminati or rep are in control of
the world,
and they're just victim demise by all of
these forces.
While the left believes are the victim of
oppression, patriarchy, the capitalism. So
This already creates a paradox. So anyone who
displays strength isn't a hero to the victim.
They're gonna be a per.
So that's kinda of the dynamic we see
going. And you see this already. So, like,
look at 20 20 in the Us at
least. I don't know if it's happening in
Canada too. But people were taking down all
these statues of, like, great American heroes. Right?
Because they had owned slaves or They had
negative associations so they saw them as colonize
or whatever. So you literally saw a symbol
of the quote unquote, people who felt oppressed
victim
literally taking down the heroes. Like that to
me was so symbolic of the drama triangle
that we're seeing play out on the world
stage. So basically, what kinda just say real
quick, really fasting. So the work left of
you know, oppression, it call it identifying with
the victim archetype, but we see this also
in very quote called Black pill truth or
community who see subs every they're victim themselves
because they live in this paramount spade and
they have Yeah. Force up against them. Yeah.
Hence by default to this unconscious
identification as the victim or conscious
identification. They reject
automatically
any potential hero archetype or somebody rising who
would... He's be he has to be a
executor. If first if they're playing the victim,
he... The that anyone displaying the strength
or challenging them as a executor. So Right.
Here's a sum
by Skip Johnson,
Cart observed that in conflict in drama, there
is a good guy versus bad guy thinking.
He also observed that the participants become drawn
in even seduced by the energy that the
drama generates.
The drama obscure the real issues and confusion
and upset escalate
solutions are no longer to focus. So we
see this. People are being drawn in by
this drama? Like, is he the villain? Is
he the savior? Like, who's the victim, etcetera?
And so the victim in his drama triangle
is not an actual victim, but it's rather
someone feeling or acting like a victim, key
point. Mh. So the victim sincerely feels victim.
They feel oppressed. They feel helpless, hopeless, powerless,
ashamed.
Unable to make decisions or solve problems or
take pleasure in life or achieve insight. The
victim stance is poor me. And then there's
a,
so the per is controlling, blaming critical, oppressive,
angry, authoritative,
rigid, and superior and self righteous.
The per acute insists it's all your fault.
And then there's a rescue, the rescue is
a classic enabler.
The rescue feels guilty if here she doesn't
rescue. Yet his or her rescuing has negative
effects. It keeps the victim dependent and gives
the victim permission to fail.
It also keeps the rescuers stuck in focusing
energy on someone else's problems not solving hips
or her own. The rescuers line is let
me help you. And ultimately,
in this form of the drama triangle, there's
no winning.
In order to actually
change this dynamic. The dynamic needs to switch
into something from dis empowerment to empowerment. And
that happens
through these 3 steps. The victim needs to
turn into creator.
The per executor needs to turn into a
challenger,
and the rescue needs to turn into the
coach. So
instead of being a victim, the creator takes
charge of their lives,
They believe in their own potential and they
focus on choosing their responses to life rather
than feel victim by what happens to them.
So they focus on learning in the face
of challenges. They don't feel at the mercy
of life. They know that they're a conscious
c creator in it. They take responsibility for
what they can control and accept what they
can. So they take a proactive approach to
life. So even though For example, let's like,
take them or truth or conspiracy 1.
You know, yes. There are systems and evil
people in control and all sorts of
you know, people who even tax
taxation is like a really big form of
theft.
And yet, you know, this is kind of
the what we're in right now. You can
take responsibility for what you can control and
let go and accept what you can. So
you don't just feel at the mercy of
it. You don't feel like, I'm victim in
the face of this system. You know, you
are conscious creator, you can be creative in
the midst of it. So you take a
very empowered position to everything. I would even
argue on this note. That's why I feel
a lot of people in the truth of
community
fall into this victim market. Also, the purse
per persecuted appetite I could have with the
self righteousness and fingers as well, your faults
all you you, you your saying
See. And you shall you're, like, all of
that Yeah. Controlled up. Yeah.
Trump gets these projections. I've gotten these projections,
whatever,
but it is extremely dis powered state which
I would argue is actually the frequency of
the matrix forces of your call forces.
Of that they want you to get stuck
in the victim place or the per stage
stage or the rescue stage unconsciously.
Yeah. And so the per executor also turns
into the challenger. So ultimately,
they present an opportunity for the victim who's
turned to a creator to learning and grow.
So on a healthy role, a per is
not tyra,
rather they speak truth, they have integrity, they
stay true to their values
and they can state the truth without be
a person. They don't attack people personally like
a worse. So someone who challenges you. Like,
say, I have... I mean, I have this
situation so many times. I've had people who
come to me. I'm, like, I don't think
I'm destined for relationships. I think that I
meant to be alone or whatever.
You know, from a higher self perspective, if
I wanted to be a per executor, I
could be, like, how dare you think that?
Like, Look at all many people in relationships,
you know? That would be 1 approach. That
would be them, talking down to them or
I could say, what makes you think that?
Like, you know, where do you think you
got that belief from? Like, you know, I
think there's many opportunities for you in relationships.
That you can state the truth without being
attacking people personally. So you're challenging people on
their ideas. And even when you look at,
like, genuine experiences, like difficult experiences in your
life, like say that even in a bad
relationship with someone. Who was really hard on
you. It was really dark and toxic, whatever
happened. Right? Wasn't... It wasn't a good relationship.
But then if you take this mindset,
rather than feeling victim and helpless to the
situation. You can ask yourself what did this
bad relationship have to teach me, you know,
putting the ex as a position of someone
in the per computer, they could've have challenged
you to finally face some embedded patterns, most
likely from your childhood
that was making you drawn to people like
this to begin with. So it's your whole
a whole mindset shift where you don't no
longer... You don't longer see yourself as victim
per acute rescue, but you can see what
you're learning. And then lastly,
the rescue it turns into a coach. So
instead of rescuing people,
telling people what to do, they just listen
and support the process, so they don't intervene
They don't force solutions on people, they encourage
the victim to become empowered as a creator
and think of creative ways of addressing the
challenges in their life and leaving in themselves.
So if you have someone, for example, in
your life that you, like, take addicts for
example, When people are addicts, like there... If
you've been added in your family, where they're
always asking you for money to help build
them out or whatever.
Eventually, it gets to the point of enabling.
And you have to basically, instead of rescuing
them, you have to help support them to
support themselves to get out of what they're
doing. So you can see how harmful the
viewer can be in this context
when you're just, you know, rescuing people, telling
them what to do rather than helping them
discover what to do with themselves and think
of creative ways of addressing.
The issues. Yeah. So you see this whole
drama triangle playing out. Right? You you to
understand. You can see it in your own
life, If you can see it in the
world stage.
And it's gonna keep going. Like, it's just
gonna keep intensified.
So thank you so much for sharing that
really understand the drama triangle. I've mentioned that
in previous articles many times before,
it's very key. And in... Because victim person
could in rescue also archetypes and people then
I again, fall trip of identifying with it
as Carl Jung said. Yeah. Right. Yeah. And
then, yeah, this is a role we can
play, but then we need move on and
use it the psyche is revealing us. That's
I'm trying to get at even if what's
happening in the world, people get so distracted,
even truth
literally are caught up in the Plato allegory
in the cave and distracted by the shadow
projector on the wall that of seeing them
as a as an emergence of the psyche
of their own inner shadow to use it
for integration for the inner, which brings us
to the solutions.
And I would say, and I'm
loosely para paul paul levy firm has work
on wet Tik that we need to not
just
point out the deep state and sci and
controls up out there, but face the deep
state and say up within yourself,
the lies you tell yourself, how you're blind
to yourself, how you deceive yourself, and all
the stuff you project external into others but
is within you and need to heal and
come to terms with these opposites within yourself.
Yeah. By the conscious in the work, which,
by the way, doesn't imply just to refrain
from action on just
whatever just
ignore the outside world.
But if you're more externally oriented in the
world and trying to figure out anything mentally
with what's going on, And there's lack of
inner work,
you will end up in the in the
labyrinth of of of the mind with no...
With in a dead and basically why you
dream of being awake as good would say.
And you will also see Sci and control
ups where they are none because as Paul
said, the Psyche will dream up more to
justify
and rationalize your own projections. Yeah. Yeah. And
I would also wanna say too that
you know, I interesting, quote, I listened to
someone para young, but young actually turned down
a lot of
interviews on the mainstream mainstream television and mainstream
media because he really articulated that he didn't
think shadow work was for the mass He
didn't think they're gonna get it. Yeah. And
that actually makes sense because when I make
posts where I in... Kind of... Or not
even in... On Instagram, but I talk about
it. There's always, like, 10:15 percent of people
who get so intensely confused, angry at me
triggered for even just pointing out this potential.
So I just wanna point out this work
is not for everyone. However, if we have
a certain amount of people who can hold
the tension right now and not fall into,
like, a far
fan
position of either that will represent itself in
like, a far left or far right right
now or become you know, hysterical and possessed
by what's going on. Like, we need these
people to kind of hold that center right
now because it is gonna get crazy.
Yeah. Exactly. So this is really... This is
key point. And it's so true. This is
work. Is not for everyone. This is... That's
why I always say,
for the ones of eyes to see with
ears to hear. Even with the wrote an
article about the archetypes divine graves and shown
this bigger picture of of the Trump destination,
all of that, and then I get comments.
Well, whatever he's a zion is, and this
and that, like com... Like,
reading is not always understanding it's like throwing
clothes in front of swine. Some people
don't have a certain level of being to
understand higher knowledge. And I'm not saying that
I'm all awake I'll know it all, but
they're different levels
within the context of the evolution of consciousness
Yeah. In in the way we can perceive
and understand certain things and I can see
throughout my life even back in my old
days. I'm gonna talk to this about more
In the second hour, when I was a
hardcore Ana truth, and I thought I had
figured it all out.
Okay. And I thought I was all awake.
Can I point something that though? This is
a really good example, and this is a
test that you can use in your own
life. So
you can know that you're in the presence
of a projection towards you, where if you
present evidence to the contrary,
the person continues to
go on with the projection. Like, so, for
example,
an I deal with this all the time,
I actually test this on online a lot.
Where if someone makes a comment and they're,
like, you're really angry right now. And then
you say, actually, I'm not feeling really angry
right now. I'm feeling this and this and
this. And you... And and you even can
provide them evidence to the contrary and explain
it in a really grounded way. And then
they say, no. You are angry. That is
the evidence of a projection persisting. So if
you can present even evidence about someone that's
like, a little bit contrary to their fixed
world view, and then they continue on with
the intensity of their original thought about them,
and they aren't able to consider what you
said. You're most likely in in the presence
of a very strong projection, and there's not
a lot you can do
unless you're a very skilled therapist and working
with this person 1 on 1 that case.
But you just have to realize. Okay. This
person's possessed by a psychic image that they
have of someone.
And,
you know, you just have to leave it
at that. It's like, Trump der arrangement sing
syndrome a not out Like, there's not a
lot of getting through.
You can't even say anything about Trump to
a typical leftist without being the far right
races, Like, it's really crazy. But you see
this item this this kinda...
I'm sorry. This kinda woke a virus, not
the world virus, but this
psychology behind a lot of the truth or
community have also this Tedious. You cannot say,
you know, he's just the shell who's fault
savior.
And they will also justify these projections. Got
Pdf is universal. It it doesn't affect your
all. And also the other ones people will
see completely him in this,
messiah save light. It's all... I mean, I
can can't even see for myself, like, I,
like, the whole vaccine thing, you know, that
was, like, with trump Adam. I'm sorry. I
can't get behind it. Even, like, I get
that... I get how he has to play
his cards a certain way, but, you know,
like, that's to me, like, that in itself
is enough for me to not have... Exactly
But in this moment. Projections towards him because,
like, yeah, they're there's some... There's some ways
that I think he could be helpful for
what's going on. And there there's are some
ways which I'm not sure. And honestly, at
the end of the day,
I don't believe that humanity as as at
a state where they're gonna get some sort
of spiritual
politician and if they were they they would
worse ship them, it would be even more
intensely dangerous. So I just accept that we
will get the politicians to the collective consciousness
needs. And they will represent something to the
collective that they actually need.
Yeah. Very well said. That's why trying to
tear him down or lift him up,
unless you really
embody and know within yourself through any expense
as within so without as without. So within
the outer outside is a reflection of inner,
and most of us the are external as
well. He's this? He's that. So what's the
solution? Well, number 1 we've drone your projection,
which is the hardest thing to do really
knowing What is shadow work? How to do
shadow? You've talked about this in past podcast.
We have So podcast podcasts about it. The
master class we go deep in our cores
is a lot of material for free out
there on my website too. Right?
So withdrawing your projections,
will not only help you see clearly beyond
your mechanical program reactive likes and dislikes attract
and rep republicans, but you actually do more
for the betterment of humanity than trying to
figure out any conspiracy or sci intellectually. Alright
right? That's what Carl Jung has meant. Right
of being in the house of the gathering.
Integrating this your shadow will also give you
more access to self energy your essence as
a vessel for the divine. And extension more
access to creativity life force and true fear
with conscious action and that mechanical
reaction. Right?
It will also confirmed you in this process
other stuff you're suppressed.
Feelings, believes, desires, and and traumas wounds you
were not aware of, but that's part of
the process. The only way out is in
and through.
But to this process, your whole being actually
does come lighter, you become more a fashion
trans user 4 divine will, which is expressing
itself uniquely through. It will actually connect your
more to your deeper sole purpose and creative
spirit.
Instead of being locked in this idea of
pointing out what's always wrong and and you're
disconnected from self. That's how the matrix actually
gets you from disconnecting you from your creative
spirit. Yeah. I think we just have to
keep in mind too. You know, there's...
Don't
underestimate how
technology,
especially these apps have been designed to keep
you hooked on the screen. And then when
you have an intense amount of psychological warfare,
You know, it's very easy to spend in
a very regulated
anxious state, like, hours on Twitter. Like, what's
gonna happen?
And then you don't feel good. So it's
really important, And I think it's is actually
honestly
totally not talked about enough aquarius skill. Is
healthy detachment. It's like being health detached by
what happens on your screen by what was
happening out there. Is such a crucial survival
skill because I see a lot of people
are entirely psychologically and emotionally controlled by the
media they watch on screen by the tweet,
Say see on screens.
And when we live in a time of
psychological warfare, this leaves them extremely vulnerable
because they can easily be psychologically
manipulated and controlled to this stream of information.
So we need to really also pay attention
to, like, our body or emotional state, or
well, how are we you feeling spiritually
when we're online, pull ourselves away when we
notice ourselves
becoming miserable or tense or just very negative.
Like, that's my sign. If I become, like,
really negative and, like, angry towards humanity, Like,
I need to step away from the screen.
I'm, like, play with my dog or like,
do something in my garden and or go
for a hike or something.
Because we need to also focus on what
nurture us in mind body and spirit. Like,
if this is really a spiritual war then
doesn't our level of consciousness matter more than
anything, doesn't our connection to God, and I'm
not just talking about a guy in a
sky. I'm meaning, like, a connection to the
light in your own heart. Like, you can't
just think that God or Jesus figure is
gonna come in and save you. It is
you actually activating some higher level of consciousness
within yourself. And creating change in the world
because we need to also water the flowers.
We need to be able to pull ourselves
away and really bring joy around us because
you're gonna see a lot of people get
pulled into all sorts of chaos. And and
in the second, we're gonna talk about, I
think it's gonna get even crazier, especially in
the Us. You know, but a lot of
people who can kind of hold that frequency
right now and really find their center or
find a place of peace and not get,
too pulled into the chaos. I feel like
these people are really gonna be holding the
light. These people are gonna be really holding
the balance between these 2 extremes that are
gonna be going on. Yeah.
And speaking of it, so in the second
hour, yes, we'll go to talk deeper into
how the divine actually works in mysterious ways.
By grace. Beyond our minds to grass. There's
a high divine will, how we give you
some practical ways how to come into alignment
with this higher power as well in your
unique world in your personal life.
But we also address... It's gonna get crazy.
You've talked about this. The pluto return of
Us queries. It's gonna intensify the we share
some of potential scenarios we see as the
elect and goes closer.
Yeah. Also just,
lightly touch on some election astrology what's going
on with Trump.
What's going on with the quote unquote, supposed
candidate, kamala, which interesting. We may change.
And then we'll... I also really wanna talk
about Trump's Pluto in the twelfth house because
Mh. I think about this a lot, and
he's so arch ty, it's such a good
example of this.
So I wanna talk about that as well.
Yep. And then we also talk about Neil
Howe latest book about the fourth turning. We
talked about the, actually the fourth turning in
his book.
3 years ago, and or 4 years ago,
right?
And
he just recently released a new book.
Last year, 20 23
about the death rebirth of the Us, how
it's a collect... These 4 turning are collectively
cycling through generations. Right? The ties into somewhat
pluto energy and pluto returns as well and
how it affects the whole world really fascinating.
So we dive deeper that as well and
also how we see
Right? Beyond the work left, and all of
that, what we've seen in this new marxist
communist take, but there's also a rise of
a real extremist. Far right Christian nationalist movement.
That seems to be like a knee rejection
of the world left like this pendulum is
mechanic is moving from the far left to
the far right and true fascism can be
actually arising as well that can actually latch
on
to the Trump movement as well.
We'll talk about that possibility as well in
the second hour. Again, that's for members. If
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