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Now, here are your hosts, Glen Cook and
Pat Stewart. And I'm lofty Fulton. And I'm
out of here. I need to tell some.
Oh, god. What is it? Some time ago,
we did and add so where we talked
about how we were going to get better
with our ass.
Shit
get better and we just
Alright. Well, here they are? We got 5
sponsors currently. Alright. Who are they? First is
the Og? The ai winner. All that. Knob
the buff. Yep. Now. He's the o. Be
with. He's star he's good. He's gonna sell
you whatever you need. Yep. You'll get it.
What you should do is contact Jason from
Minds Don't quit, Mh. With some peculiar product,
telling him me want it and make him
get it in and sell it to you.
Even if you could buy it somewhere else
Just make sure he gets it in for
you. Just make that bastard at work.
But in all, honesty, I'd say 90 percent
of my shit comes from him, and it's
all the best stuff. I did see some
feedback on our forum where somebody was really
intrigued about your handler package. So mother he
got from Jason. Obviously, it worked. Yeah. People
are paying attention to the daily great. Even
though we're shoot at this, who do a
terrible job of actually trying to keep things
updated. It great to see that the people
who are investing in our show are actually
getting some leeway. Yep. Might I've heard that
your wife sell some can products. My wife
is doing great guns at the moment. I
said before that she's being supported terrific in
the United States which has been good, but
I will swing that back home and say
that so many more people in Australia are
doing it. And it's great to see, like
there are people
finally in the sporting dog world who are
starting to prioritize new nutrition for the dogs.
And I know, I can see them when
Na comes and says, oh, I guess who
bought some product off me for the first
time. So are you're saying there's no patient
confidentiality? No. You're a confidentiality. Oh, sorry. It's
list confidentiality. What's a automating list. You are
you aware my dog is taking pee
collagen and... What is everything takes?
Anton. Yeah. Yeah. It's been on that.
Is not Nor ale business, but I've gotta
do a shout out for.
Absolutely be fantastic. The very supportive of our
show. Mh. Whenever we've done seminars and so
forth, they have been first to dip their
hand in their pocket. They are very generous
with their product. Be But let me just
say all that aside, their generosity and their
advertising and marketing. Let me just say on
the other side of that their product is
amazing. Yeah Like it does work. It's very
beneficial for sure. It's 1 of those things
where they say anton for every dog every
day. I totally agree with that. Nor has
even supported that when people have asked them
about her product, she says the 2 things
that I would absolutely give to you is
Anton, and her gut protect formula. Yeah. Gut
protect is like her Holy Grail. Of of
a whole of the range. This is not
me market talking. Okay? Because we are an
add this is this is an ad, but
this is not made to a marketing, but
we've already pointed out where she did at.
I know. Of all the things that she
sells and she sells some killer product. But
the 1 thing that she does sell, which
I absolutely agree with her every dog should
have this product is the gut protect. Really?
A hundred percent. It's nothing that they need
for being sick. It's something that they need
to do just to maintain great gut balance.
Okay. And gut balance like mental health. It's
1 of those things that you absolutely wanna
get control around. So products like anton, Great
every day. Gut protect, great for every day.
There's other products that aren't even related to
hers called things like called rose hip vital
and stuff like that. Absolutely fantastic for dogs
to be on every sort of day. Mh.
But I know there's other people we need
to talk about. If you wanna learn more
about Nor products, go to a website, canine
dot com. I think it's busy.
I think it's till you'll figure it out.
It's dot dot dot Au. It's 1 of
that. Oh wanna touch you anyway. Everyone just
google's it and just Google it. You'll find
it. Hey. Yeah. George. I, wish she get
him on the show. We should have George
Kit on the show. Not only is he
devilish handsome. Yep. But he's got a fantastic
1 of a kind product that I've never
seen replicated anywhere in the world. You or
me, we're getting a car ride by him.
We got to see the prototype first firsthand.
And then he's bike got stolen with the
prototype.
Over that? Yes. Yeah. But anyway, George has
Rowdy had dog box And So it's a
crate that goes on the vacuum motorbike. So
that you don't can go over with you.
Yeah it's cool shit. It's a great idea.
You should totally get 1. Taylor canine in
Canada. Yeah. Do you know that Taylor, so
Tyler canon is hosting Jazz W later in
the. I do know that. Yes. So I
saw the ad. Very good. Yep. So only
she doing great stuff with her
Tailored canine. Her training business, training business, but
she's also getting a fantastic trainer over there
to help with her tailored training. Cheers. And
finally, mh. Barber Groot. The sugar mama from
the heart dog trainer heart dog trainer. Just
fucking throws cash. Just supports the show God
bless. Yeah. I think later on the year
when And I are over doing a seminar
with Melanie Ben. Barbara D group is coming
over. Beautiful. I think she has put down
a a like, and I said you better
come sugar mama, and she gave me a
thumbs up. So hopefully, she's gonna be there,
and I can give her some love to
repay us for all the kindness and support
that she's thrown Addison asked nothing in return.
Alright. That's our ad. Yeah. That one's good
to go for at least another 4 years.
You'll hear from us then.
Welcome back to the canine Paradigm I'm I'm
your host Pat Stewart. I'm joined in studio
today by my c host. Glen hook. Someone
bought us the lyme lamborghini.
Indeed they did. I knew it was gonna
happen 1 day. Yeah. We asked. We put
it out there. We can put into the
Ether. It's surprisingly,
Lamborghini now, maybe 50000000 dollars next week. You
never know. Before we do that, I wanna
read out the little poem that I got
because it just turned up, and I'm thinking,
The fuck is this. Yeah. So I get
this little poem. This is from Ryan s.
I don't know Ryan's last name, but he's...
I think he's from
Alabama or somewhere like that. He says to
the host of Tcp,
some things on the way for you from
me. To say thanks for the things I've
learned and to satisfy a want that you've
both year.
You've accompanied me in my car, traveled with
me near and far. You've made me think
laugh and admit of cried,
So this was easy to decide. I've listened
through since it's begun. So thanks again for
all you've done. A gift for you from
me and my dog's Zucchini. Your very own
Montage,
Lamborghini, Ryan and Za zucchini The Cor. There
you go. Thanks, Mate. We should point out.
It's a lego
However,
I know thing or 2 about legos. I
have a a very enthusiastic lego.
Child. Yes. And that's an expensive little thing.
It's not real lamborghini expensive, but it would
cost them a fair bit of money. So
Really appreciate that right? That's absolutely.
So Rip and pat are gonna enjoy putting
that together. It's in production currently. Yeah. Well,
we'll take a photo of it and put
it up once. It's all been,
put together painstakingly.
Rips very good at lego. He just turned
9 last week. He does the legos, you
know, that cost me a fortune ended for
18 plus, but cars are especially hard because
there's a lot of technique in it. Yes.
Lego technique. So he's working on it? A
work in progress, but we'll let you know
when it's done. Yeah. Fantastic. What are we
got today? What are we gonna talk about?
Well, well, there's been some... There's been fucker.
Yeah. We're gonna talk about social media a
little bit. Yeah. So during the week, someone
sent me a real. It was a trainer
feel like I might met the ago I.
You looked familiar. Mh. It was a critique
of someone else. It wasn't an unfair critique,
but it just wasn't really...
Warranted. Warranted is an interesting word. You know,
I think when trainers call out other trainers
online.
I think that there's times that you have
to do that. Because we talk about how
we need internal policing. And really, we don't
have any mechanisms for that. The Is is,
you know, in a a state of reg
growth at the moment. And it's why you
and I both. Were pushing for... Such a
a professional
organization. Mh because you need internal policing. Right?
Like, you need internal
standards, there needs to be a code of
conduct that we all follow. Something like that.
Yep. So that when lawmakers and whatever look
at us from the outside and go, whoa,
whoa, whose news and charge you. We're like,
don't, we've got it. We're managing it. Yeah.
We're making sure everyone's doing the right thing.
We've got our own code of ethics. Our
own code of conduct. We're holding people accountable
to it. And really,
or you can do in those instances is
kick people out of the organization or you
can suspend them from the organization if there's
undue conduct all that kind of stuff, And
if it's an organization that's held in the
theme or if not being a part of
that, means that you can't perform your...
Tasks well, then ben kicked out of being
disciplined by that organization, while not a legal
thing, it has a detrimental effect business. Yeah
And so people look at your website and
see that you don't have that green tech
anymore. Yeah. The same example I always use
you'd be familiar with as well. The security
industries like that. You very much. In order
to hold a license, you have to be
a part of an organization. While there's a
lot of legislation that covers security industry, there's
a lot of internal
stuff as well. And you've gotta be a
part of these organizations in in order to...
Like, to hold a master security. I can't
remember all the details in your south wales.
But to hold a a master a security
guards license in order to, like, own a
company, you have to have been accepted into
1 of the professional groups of that. So
so there's an element of, like, no. We
have deemed this guy to be suitable ourselves
as an industry. And so we don't really
have that in dogs. It's certainly not at
an international level. We're trying. We want it,
but it doesn't really exist. And that vacuum
allows, people like the animal Justice party either
anybody else in the United States
that come in and they start spewing their
own rhetoric. Yeah. And to say, hey, you
guys need a boss, and it's gonna be
me. I'm gonna boss you around. Right? That's
what happens. Yeah. We then say we should
place ourselves. And what we often see. And
rightly,
I think the last time was the guy
that was fucking tipping that dog out of
the crate on his driveway, and Larry Cro
went mental about it, and showed all the
videos and all that kind of stuff. And,
like, that is the right use of trainers
being called out. Like, that guy I was
abusing that dog. Right? I can't remember the
guys. Name. And prior to that, it was
the chicks with the fucking cor. You remember
them that were... I think the dog daddy
fit in there to. Well, doctor daddy's non
stop. Right? Like, he's continues the whole time.
Because the thing is like, what the dog
daddy does is shitty training, but in every
1 of those terrible videos the dog's coming
at him. Doug Daddy daddy's is a whole
another topic. Yeah. Yeah. And then prior to
that, it was probably like the guy with
the wi bat. You know, I remember that.
Oh yeah. Bon the dogs on the head.
Yeah. Yeah. And so that was in las
Vegas. I think it was... I can't remember
the chain, but it was a a chain
business.
Anyway, So, there's times where for sure, we
all
get on board and go, hey. Fuck this.
This is not dog training. Yeah Like, this
is bad. I don't wanna see this. I
don't associate with this person,
and we as bounce trainers have a level
of responsibility in doing that because we use
the tools.
We do the things that some people just
look at. Like, the very notion of owning
a prong collar or an electric call to
some people is considered abuse. Right? Yeah? But
so is
not feeding a dog when it demands food
to some people. You know, Like, that's a
slippery slope of what is abuse.
And so we are constantly saying it's important
that we
make those calls. When somebody is doing terrible,
terrible dog training, We point that out, and
we go, hey, this is not okay. This
person... While, we have no power, to do
anything about this, we're not the police, You
should call the police. If you see something
like this, this is something that should be
reported. This isn't real training. This isn't how
we use the tools. That's really important.
But then when you're like making the same
fuss,
about, like, I don't like the way this
guy used a fucking clicker. It's a little
bit to me the boy who cried Wolf.
And I think that we're putting ourselves in
a tricky situation. In doing that sort of
thing. So I got sent this video, and
I watched it all the way through because
someone sent it to me and wanted me
to comment on. Right? And it was a
friend that sent it to me, It wasn't
like a rand person. I was like, okay.
Well, I will watch this all the way
through. Mh And then I was like, I
looked at the guy. I it. And I
was like man Feel I that guy. So
I went to feed, and I watched a
few more of his videos, which is similar.
And then I'm in the loop. So now
my whole fucking feed, my whole feed Instagram
feed has gone from
meditation tips and dogs doing cool stuff to
this guy's videos. Well, not just to this
guy back to adult trainers cri taking other
dog trainers. And these reactions and these, basically
call out videos.
And, you know, some of them we're not
worth calling out. Are the people that are
doing the calling out, are they in a
position of experience? That's a good question. Right?
I don't know. I didn't recognize many of
them. That doesn't mean that they're good bad
otherwise, it means that I can't really comment
on that. And what I didn't wanna do
when this was kept coming up in my
feed. The last we'll do is click on
their fucking links because then I'm gonna say
more of it. We've talked about social media
and how it works before, but to sort
of recap case we'll see you know, don't
know. I curate my Instagram feed pretty heavily.
It's because I get sucked into it, and
I like everybody else have found myself 2
hours into my poo with with numb legs,
staring at my phone, just going what the
fuck of Become. Yeah. And if I'm gonna
go down that rabbit hole, the way I
know, like, I've gone too long is when
I hit conspiracy theory addictive. People start talking
about the illuminati. It's not even Take tiktok
I don't use Take tiktok. But, like, even
it's on instagram. As soon as I'm hearing
about the illuminati or okay what earth. No.
Flat earth is is a funny 1? What's
the other thing that the ana na. Oh,
yeah yan knock. Yes.
So listen, I've got my own opinions on
the Ana nazi. Right? But once I see
a real let's talking about Ad. I kinda
snap out of it and I'm like, oh,
wait. Ever been here for 2 hours. What's
happened? Why am my legs now?
I can't get off the toilet. What was
the guy who did info wars. What was
his name? Alex sitting Alex jones. Well, you
know you've gone too far when Alex Jones
appears in your feed. Well alex Jones never
appeared in my feed. I think he's persona
G of the Internet. Right? He's he he
got he got properly canceled. Yeah. Yeah. But
that was another big tech concerted effort. Anyway,
before we become...
We start talking about the Ad na, you're
gonna get tired of why Although, I'd love
a conversation at the. If we could turn
this into the Ad podcast.
Anyway, So
I didn't click on any of these things.
Watched a few, and then I was like,
what I'm doing, and I just tried to
flick buy them. And since... Because this was
a couple of days ago. I've had a
bunch more come up and A I flick
past. Because I really heavily curate my insurance
feed because I need it to be things.
If I'm gonna get suck it into that,
I wanted to feed my mind a little
bit rather than just turn my brain into
marsh. To the point where, like, I'm in
a bunch of group chats with, like, army
buddies and stuff. I never click any of
the... When they share real in there... I
never click it. Because I'm like, I can't
watch more footage. I can't work. Because it's
all them sharing stuff from, like, the Russia
Ukraine shit with each other and talking about
the specifics of certain things, and I'm like,
I can't watch that shit. Because not like
any sort of trauma I'm saying is I'm
too interested in. And then suddenly, that will
be my whole feed, and I I just
can't lose that time. Careful, you've been called
out before for not caring or not showing
empathy in those wartime
scenario quite
I have. Yes. That was another weird circumstance.
Even though that's not what you said. Yeah.
And it was completely blown out of con
tech. Well, no. What I said and I
maintain is that I don't have an opinion
because I don't have all the information. Makes
that really upset someone saying that I should
be standing up for a killer side in
a particular war. And I was like, hey,
I don't know anything about that. I feel
very comfortable in reserving the right to hold
no opinion. Marcus aurelius, the greatest and emperor
other world has ever known, said it was
okay. I'm gonna fucking
I'm gonna go with what he said. Over
with some lady on the internet attacks me
over. And so did George Cullen, 1 of
the greatest political comedian of all time he
said, the only news that you'll get is
what's garnish from the elites. Yep. Which they
will decide what you hear and what you
read. I can go into detail now. It's
probably not worth talking about now but from
There was a time when I could speak
fluent past. I could understand fluent past and
I could speak like a 2 year old.
Like I could convey the message of what
I needed to tell you. Right? And I
could understand a a conversation and know what
was going on, not all the detail. And
so could many, many guys from my work,
my old unit, Now, people that can speak
past in Australia, you can probably, like, fluently,
you can probably count them on 1 hand.
Right? It's a very niche language spoken in
a particular region enough. Afghanistan. Like, it... There
aren't many people to speak past.
But it was the region where we were
and on
rotation 7 when I was on that. My
interpreter was killed Like, 2 weeks into the
trip. And so I was embedded with Afghan
Army who were all speaking pastor. So I
learned pasture pretty fucking quickly. Yep. Anyway, there
was a huge incident like The army had
already investigated, It was a good friend of
mine who was part of the thing that
happened, while he was in a position where
something horrific happened. He was found to be
no case to... Answer for it. And rightly,
like, I know that very detailed specifics of
it.
Anyway, when that eventually came out and it
was years later with because someone lost something
and, you know, the drive got found and
the news and up finding out about and
they went to the village, and were interviewing
people. And so they had this interview with
this lady
and she's speaking past due, and so then
they lower the volume and they have the
dubbed over part of it. And so to
me, I was like, hang on. I speak
the language.
That she's speaking, let me hear what she
actually fucking said. Right? Like, let me hear
that give her subtitles, but let me hear
what she says because I'm not sure she's
actually saying what you're saying that she's saying
and that was channel 10 here. Anyway, I
digress. We must get back to the must
get back to the topic yet. So I
think There were all these videos. I saw
quite a few of them. What was interesting
to me was that they seem to be
template, like they were all fairly similar.
I put a post in our group about
that, and it turns out that a particular
school we're teaching people how to do that
and encouraging them to do that. For a
good reason for social media gain. Okay? If
you're in business, you have to put in
the social media work. You fucking have to.
Yeah right? There's no yellow pages anymore you
do your Google ads or whatever you do,
all that shit's important, but you have to
have a social media presence, just so that
people know the lights are on in your
business. I agree with you entirely and
throughout our career of doing this. I mean,
this is a exercise in social media as
well. I mean, we're commenting on things that
you and I think are important or just
Yeah. We are social media this media.
A lot of it that I've looked at,
like many of my colleagues, including probably yourself
and and Nor won't speak for you. But
when I look at some of the short
form and long form social media, there's some
of it, I think this is just absolutely
invaluable. Mh. It's incredible. Yeah. For short.
Effort and the amount of research and the
time that the people are put into it.
I just think thank god for people like
this. Yeah. That are putting the work into
this. Like I sit there and I'm thinking,
God. I'm actually learning some pretty significant
skills and knowledge here. Because this person's gone
away and research and brought it all back.
Yeah. And given it life of free. And
I just think we're just so fortunate to
have people that do that.
And then there's the ins inseparable side of
it. Their people are so drunk. Yeah. With
their own image. Like, I'm just gonna do
something disgusting or tat or Let me talk
about the dog training world, the industry, they
bring their trash to an industry which really
needs to be cleaned up, not watered down
further. Yeah. You know, on social media, if
you're a professional adult trainer, But if you're
a... You know, if you have a business
of any kind. There has to be social
media presence of that position. Let's struggle without
it to you'll struggle. First 2. And You
know, the world has changed to the point
where it's not who gets the biggest ad
in the yellow pages, the phone book. Like,
that's irrelevant now. Yep. You have your Google
ads if you do that, or or wherever
you're advertising,
but then you have to have an online
presence
just so that people can look you up
and go, oh they're still functioning. There's a
post once a week. That's totally great. And
if you're a local dog trainer, doing... You've
got a relationship with your local vet or
know, you're running highly targeted Google ads. So
when people Google don't train Me, you come
up and you're the first hit and you
answer your phone when they call all these
things that relate that get your business.
You still have to once week, even if
you have 10 followers. It doesn't matter, you
still have to post something
Just so that somebody looks at and goes
they're still in business. They are operating. The
lights are on. That's what social media has
to be. But it can be something of
substance.
Instead of just clap. Yes. So but then
that's the other thing. So then what I
do on social media. You know, I trained
a lot of real dogs real time. I'm
about to jump on a plane tomorrow and
go and teach a seminar to 60 people,
and then I'm gonna teach a boot camp
to 10 and we're gonna be immersed in
dog training for a full week. Right Right?
But also, I have an online course. And,
big chunk of my income comes from the
selling of that online course. And so my
social media is as you'd said, like, I
film a bunch of training. I used to
make it myself, but thank God, and I
love him I've got Theo who is editing
that stuff for me, and he's putting together,
which means I'm able to post way more.
Sort of, you know, I'm able to post
every day at the moment. And it's decent
stuff
because it's explaining stuff to people for real,
and then that's cut up. The whole point
of it to sort of show behind the
curtain.
Is like this shouldn't blow one's mind. But
the reason I have that is it's a
trust funnel, like to people who don't know
me haven't trained with me. As well as,
you know, 1 of the main reasons I
started posting a lot of training footage on
social media was, you know, we talk a
lot of shit. We talk a big game
about dog training and position ourselves as people
who are good at it, well, there has
to be some fucking evidence of that. Right?
So, like, I have to put video up
of me training my dog. And then lately,
because my dog is kind of aged I'm
not really training my dogs so much anymore.
I'm training other people and their dogs. So
that's what I'm posting. Right? And so what
I'm doing is I'm showing, like, hey, this
is my skill set. My skill set is
here, take it or leave it. And if
you like this stuff, you can follow me,
and the goal is that when people follow
over time, they get to know me the
stuff that I post on social media is
not made for social media. It's just the
real session that was filmed. Now the guys
that at club and places where I'm filming.
They're clever. They asked me questions. Right? Like,
they ask me questions, letting questions... Yeah. That
they don't know the answers to you, but
they just want to give me the opportunity
to answer the question in front of them.
Yep. That creates what's called like a trust
funnel. People then watch a bunch of my
videos. They click the link in the bio
they end up on my mailing list. They
get sent even more information for free, and
then eventually, the idea is that eventually they
go, like, I would like to see behind
the pay wall and they buy my online
course. Right? That's business. Right? Like, there's no...
That shouldn't blow anyone's minds. So there's nothing
wrong with that in what you're doing. Everything
that I've seen and I've ordered it off
yours. I've looked at, and I thought, Jeez
giving away some incredible value. That's the idea.
Right. I understand that it it is 1
of those boxes that you wanna take where
if you're interested. Here's my website. Here's my
courses.
Booked me for a seminar, etcetera etcetera, yeah.
And I'll find all that themselves because they're
in the funnel. They're they've like, they've brought
themselves and they've just they've ind themselves into
what I'm doing. I'm totally on board with
this, and I totally agree with you. As
a business, there are a lot of checks
and balances that you have to put in
place to stay liquid. Yeah. And, you know,
I would love Nor to do much more
of this. She's got a lot of incredible
knowledge as you have. And as I have.
Between the 3 of us, we've got incredible
database of knowledge and history that we've done
over periods of time. But I would love
Nor to do more of that, but she
lacks the confidence to do it, like getting
in front of a camera to her is
just, like she cringe the entire time she's
doing it.
Even though she's doing a Thursday thoughts every
Thursday, and she's putting him out. Like, it's
a struggle for her to do that. Yeah
Yeah. And yet, she's 1 of the
leading people in dog supplementation and dietary requirements,
definitely in Australia, if not part of a
collective of the most intelligent people in the
world. But for her, she suffers doing it.
Yet, there'll be somebody that knows 1 1
hundredth of what she's doing that is like
t out fucking reels
of garbage that are just occupying space that
is flooding the market. Yeah. That's a whopping
thing that's happening in the dog training space
as well. And people have come back to
me over periods of time when I've made
comments like this in the past and said,
hey, Glenn. I appreciate that you've got the
show that you are an authority in certain
areas, but who are you to say what
people can put out? I can't say what
they can put out. But if they do
put it out, As you made a comment
before Pat, where you said if you put
it out there, then it's out there to
audit it by people. So therefore, I'm allowed
to audited it and I'm allowed to speak
my mind about it if I find that
it's Garbage. Mh. You know, like, if people
are putting information out there that I think
is really either clickbait or just to add
clout to
whatever they're doing. But it's of no substance.
It doesn't serve anybody,
except trying to funnel that person into their
dog training only fans page.
Some of these things are just outrageous. Like
I said before, it's not cleaning up our
industry. It's just creating a lot of
divergence
all over the place. Where when new people
come in, I remember as you said before,
and which is gonna lead us into a
a conversation.
When you came into the industry, you were
either gonna go to Larry K, or Zach
George. Yeah. You know? And thank God, you
went down to Larry Cohen page,
Thank you, Larry. I know that you do
actually Not me because I... Like, it was
pre Larry doing what he does. But people
these days for sure. Maybe still training. That's
what you're gonna find. Yeah. As I said,
I know Larry does listen to the show.
He's a friend of ours, and he he
listens as well as we listen to his
content, but Mate, thank you for at least
been a funnel away
from things Zach saying because recently, he just
said something which I will hand over to
you. Well, let me carry on about social
media because it's right I have to put
it. Okay? Yep. I think 1 of the
things that's really interesting, especially, you know, Tiktok
and
Instagram, part of the dopamine of how they
get you to make the content. Right? So
When we look at social media, they need
us as much as people need them. Right?
Somebody has to be making this shit. Right?
Somebody has to be making the content in
order for you to digest it. Yep. Now
I remembered being on Instagram pretty early, a
long time ago before I was even into
dogs properly.
I only followed a few people and my
feed would run out. Back then, you don't
look at something like that once every couple
of days.
My feed wasn't bottomless. I would pretty quickly
running out of, like I've seeing all the
things that the peep... The 8 people that
I've follow have posted. Yep. Whereas now, like,
that never happens. Right? It's an infinite scroll.
There's an infinite amount of content that's gonna
be served to in 1 way or another.
And I think 1 of the metrics that
keeps people posting
is you can see the views. Now your
views aren't real, it counts as a view
if somebody watch like 3 seconds of it,
You get attributed a view even though they
didn't see it all the way through. They
didn't necessarily show any interest in it. You
have no idea really.
I think Instagram does a little bit now.
Tiktok quite famously.
Would give everybody 1 viral reel, You know?
Like, so within your first 10 reels that
you or or things that you posted on
Tiktok, whatever that fuck their call. 1 of
them would get an insane amount of views.
And that is the jackpot. Right? Yeah Like,
that's you being jackpot into wanting to post
more and more and create more brain marsh
that people wanna digest. So the number of
views on a real
is often used as a metric of success
of how it went. Right? But you kinda
gotta look at it, especially for us as
business owners and people who are using it
professionally in order to train dogs.
It's like, a okay, but not all views
are created equal. And an outrage view is
gonna count as a view and people are
gonna see it, and they're maybe gonna comment
and they're gonna get big mad about these
things. Mh. But it's only gonna count as
a view. It... They're not seeing you in,
like, the trust funnel that you're trying to
create. And so
Like I say, for people who have online
products, then, you know, you're showing people, hey,
I'm good at online. That's the point of
your page is that you're going, hey, I've
got a course.
I can't show it to because that defeats
the purpose. I want you to buy it
from me, but I'll show you all these
other stuff that will give you an insight
into my capability and understand that the course
is behind the payroll, it has to be
better. Right? Like, that's the whole point. And
so when you look at my Instagram, for
a professional account and a person that does
this
professionally. Have a pretty small. Like, 20000 people.
Right? Like, and that's 20000 people are fucking
an enormous amount of people. But, you know,
when you look at that objectively
At least a thousand of them don't log
in to instagram anymore and have deleted their
account.
Another thousand of them are people's dog's account
you know, like, they've got 3 accounts to
what their dog follows me, but they don't...
And they only look at their dog thing
every now and again. You know, and other
friends and yay family. Like, all these are
things. Right? So your funnel is actually much
smaller than you think. Yep.
But the number of views that you get,
that doesn't necessarily
equate to any on vertical content. Right? That
doesn't necessarily equate to anything good
because the highest fucking number of reviews I've
got is when I bought a new camera,
and my... I was sitting in my yard.
Right? Yeah. On my Instagram, it's dog training
tips after dog trading tips nonstop. And every
now and again, I'll advertise something every now
and again, I'll put something to music because,
you know, like why not it's fun to
engage with that every now and again. I
kinda like the art of doing that. You
know, I like making fun stuff.
The real I have with the most views
is my dog just sitting in the sun
door nothing. The videos is because I got
a new camera,
was sitting there fucking around the settings of
it, and I put it into log, so,
you know, like a a flat color profile,
and I just zoomed in on my dog
and got that footage and thought, I'll, I'll
go and play with that to color it
and just, you know, see how it goes.
And then when I came downstairs this, he
was asleep on the couch up slowed down.
And so I got another set of footage
of him asleep on the couch and I
put the 2 together, and I put on
1 of them like, 1 percent of the
time and then 99 percent of time because
he's asleep upside down looking stupid. In the
other 1, he looks really proud and good
looking in the sun. Right It got the
most views I've ever had. But they're just
people like, oh, that's cute. That it opening
my profile. Yeah. They're not doom scrolling. Yeah.
They're just everybody looked at it because it
looked cool, and I calibrated it really nice,
and it was kind of funny. But they're
worthless views to me. There of no substance.
It may be resulted in some extra followers
like then people go oh, who is this
guy wanna see some other stuff. But the
hundreds of thousands of views that it got,
they're worthless. They don't count for anything. And
so I think what's happened. And if people
are teaching people to do react videos to
other dog trainers is you've gotta to think
like what the fuck good are these views?
Why do I want them? Because I doubt
that too many people are watching your reaction
to some other dog trainer and going, oh,
that's fantastic. You're taking him. You're my guy.
Alright? Like, I'm gonna follow you. So you
might get a surge. It might give you
a little bit more reach, a little bit
more exposure, but at what cost.
Now, unfortunately,
and I know we've talked about this before,
but unfortunately, the opposite is true on some
other platforms where every view is fucking money.
And it's not that you need to sell
anything through it. It's just that you need
eyeballs on it because there'll be an ad
that's played beforehand,
and Youtube is that platform. Right?
So if you've got a monetized account on
Youtube end up with what's called a Cpm.
And the Cpm is like cost per million.
It basically is a number that you end
up with of what Youtube will pay you
per view on your video.
Now in the dog space,
Youtube pays everybody differently. Alright? And it depends
on what kind of advertisers are willing to
advertise on your type of video,
as well as if there is, like competition
over it. It your Cpm can get really
high. The highest I've ever seen was 400
dollars. That was actually Matt who I used
to work for. But it was only for
a couple of weeks, and it was because
2 of his competitors
were bidding to have ads at the start
of his videos.
Right Right? And so that drove his Cpm
up massively. Now, same deal he like me
is not an online personality. He has a
at big online presence, but only to fuel
his real business. Right? Like he actually does
things for R, not just makes content. Right?
In fact, I was lot making the content
at the time. Yep. So the views that
you get on Youtube
are monetized if you have a monetized account.
Now in the dog space,
my I monetized account in order to add
a monetize account, you need more than a
thousand followers and you need 4000
hours of watch time. Collectively, people have sat
in front of your content for 4000 hours.
Then you become eligible for monetization. And every
time you upload a video,
there's boxes that have to be ticked about
monetization. And you can self report and if
you're reliably self reporting, then you continue to
self report, if you self report unreliable, they
take that away from you and then you...
It's a much longer process to get each
of yourself support name. You have to say
what's in the video. Alright. I for me,
I tick the same shit every time I
upload something. I say that there's potentially swearing
in it and potentially swearing in the thumbnail,
which I've never actually done, but it's the
same box to take. Right? And so swearing,
including the word fuck within the first 30
seconds of a video will knock you down
from the open to all advertisers to slightly
less advertisers? Nice. And the more boxes you
tick, like, do you talk about guns in
it? Are you talking about racism, like, you.
All these kinds of things, you tickle all
these boxes. Yep. And you... If you self
report accurately, then I let you continue to
self report. I guess they the Ai checks
on it every now and again. But you
determine your own eligibility for monetization. Right. And
in doing that, you then end up with
your Cpm, and it's per video. Right? So,
like, each video ends up with a different
ratio of what they'll pay you for it.
In dogs,
most people I know certain mind fluctuates between,
like, 8 and 12 dollars per thousand views.
Now, like, when I make a video, it
probably doesn't even get a thousand. So like,
I'm am not making
social media content to get the money from
it. But there's people who do. Right?
And the problem that I think that we're
facing online at the moment is people are
competing for eyeballs.
And it's tricky together. Well, this is a
thing. So this is what we know people
are competing eyeballs
because there's fucking dog trainer schools, teaching people
how to make react content to other people's
videos in order to up their views. Right?
We know that people are doing this. And
our I say, on those short form contents,
you don't make any money about that. Just
getting more eyeballs. And maybe 1 of the
thousand eyeballs that gets onto to you goes,
oh, that's interesting. I'll follow this person. Rather
than just goes want the fuck. Right? And
scrolls past it. But on Youtube, every view
counts. What they've been saying lately about the
Youtube space is that your follow account doesn't
even matter really. Right? So like your subscribers,
you look at the big accounts, you know,
like mister Beast and stuff like that. 270000000
subscribers and like madness.
Even you look at say, like, somebody who
I used to watching in the camera space
all the times guy I called Peter Mckinnon.
He's got like, 5000000
subscribers. But that doesn't equate to views. And
sometimes you'll see accounts that have a low
number of subscribers
but they'll have insane views and usually those
people are making tutorial videos. Take for example,
I have fucked up my garage door opener
5 times in my life. Right? Like you
hold the button too long resets the whole
thing. Yeah. I can't remember how to change
that. Right? Like I can't find someone on
you youtube. I Google the model number, and
there's a video of a guy teaching you
how to it. Now he's has, like, 6
subscribers because who the fuck is subscribing to
a guy that teaches you how to reprogram
garage door. Just watch it You don't You
just watch it. But it has millions of
views. Yeah. Right. Because it's a really helpful
thing. I usually with stuff like that. A
like a video if it's a really good
tutorial, and it it solves the problem that
I'm after, I'll usually like it or I'll
comment and say thank you. That solves the
problem I was looking for. Yeah. Because then
a person who's scrolling through that. We'll go,
oh, this has so many... Like, like, can
See the title yeah, that title lines up
with what I wanna yep know. It's got
a obliged number of views. It's got comments
of people saying thank you. That was good.
Then they're gonna watch it again. And I'm
helping serve that person who put in their
time. To create that tutorial, get more views
and get their 8 bucks per thousand views.
What's interesting is, you know, kids watch Yeah.
Have you ever seen the videos? You wouldn't...
I don't know if you've seen it, like,
the videos of kids playing with
toys. I'm Oh, I know some of those
kids are multimillion million years over. Well, but
they don't make anywhere near as much money
as you'd think because they'll end up with,
like, hundred and 50000000 views. Yep. But the
Cpm on, like, kids views is like 50
cents. Yeah. Because kids that of money. So
like you could put as many toy ads
if you in front of that as you
want. The parents aren't there to buy those
things because if the parents were there, the
kid wouldn't be plop the front fucking in
Youtube watching it all day. Right? So those
ads are just pissing into the wind, then
nobody's clicking anything off that. Or buying anything
off that.
Anyway, all of this is to get to
the point of saying,
if you have been in Youtube in the
early days of Youtube where Youtube was not
that many people doing it, you needed a
particular
tech skill set that not too many people
had 10:15 years ago,
if you were even moderately good at what
you did,
you could
become massive.
And I think that's what happened with Zach
George. And I watched a lot of Zach
George stuff a long time ago. Right? Like,
when I was first looking into dog training
stuff online when I first was like, I'm
gonna try and you know, get a better
education on this and see what's available free
as youtube was becoming more popular for that
kind of thing. That george check some good
tutorials. You did. I've seen some of them
before. And as I was about to say
is not everything that he's put out is
dog shit. No. Some of it I've looked
at and I thought, well, that's actually yeah.
Beneficial. Like for teaching cool tricks Yep. When
he had the Border collie. I I don't
know the whole. I don't really watch any
of stuff, I don't know too much about
it, but, like, when he had that Border
Collie, he would do some cool shit with
it. And there was some cool tricks that
were, you know, basic stepping stone tricks that
if you were looking to... If you were
just a person
that had a cool dog with a bit
more drive than the average dog, and you
were like fuck I need to do something
with this dog How do I teach the
dog to roll over? He had some fucking
cool videos on how to do that at
a time where nobody else did. Right? Like,
there weren't many people putting that out. That's
right. And so because they were tutorial based
things,
and it was more how to's,
He got massive numbers because people would, like,
how do I teach your doctor roll over?
Doctor George is coming up? You gonna watch
it back George video? You're gonna watch a
ad at the start of it. You're gonna
watch that ad, because you've got no choice
on that 1. Mh. Way it works on
Youtube is if if the video is more
than 8 minutes long, you can put an
ad into the middle of it. You can
choose where that ad goes. So if you're
clever or you have the time, you put
that at a, sort of pivotal moment in
the video so that people have to watch
that ad and not just bounce off. And
they could going. So he would have been
making
bank. Like, he would have been born from
his Youtube videos. Yep. And for people who
are regularly
knocking over million plus views per video, you
know, if you're getting 8 bucks per thousand
views, I can't do math, but that's a
good chunk of money. Right? Like, that's a
that's a decent bit of money.
But
now, everybody knows how to push it on
Youtube.
Like
everybody's carrying around in their pocket,
a device, not only capable of filming the
Youtube video
editing the Youtube video. Yeah. Cleaning up the
sound and graphics of that video. That's it's
only just got better with Ai now. That's...
Ai has just tripped it to the new
next level. I use final cut, which is
a professional level editing software,
and, you know, I use it on a
an m 1 ultra mac that is a
borderline
supercomputer. Yep. Or was when it came out
was the Mac daddy computer.
May my phone can outperform this shit now.
Mh Right. Like, I can get a free
edit software. I can get Cap cut and
Cap cut can do all the same shit
and it's free. And Like I if I
pay, I can get the watermark removed, but
most people don't give a fuck about Cap
cup watermark on their thing. Yep. And I
can upload... I can edit that. I can
upload it to Youtube. I can use all
the Ai features of cleaning up the audio
like now,
You can do so much with audio incredible.
You can remove shit stuff from the background,
You can do that even with video,
color grading, thing of the past unless you're
going for dial color grade like the Ai
does all that. There's no need for all
that shit. Right? So now the barrier to
entry
of getting eyeballs on is there's gotta be
a reason for people to watch. Right? And
as we know, what makes people watch, is.
Yeah. I pulled up this good saying before
that says love,
friendship and respect do not unite people as
much as a common hatred for something, and
that's by Anton check. Mh It cohen lines
with another statement that says, bad news will
travel 3 times around the world before good
news gets out of bed. If you think
about many of the conversations that you have
with people,
You're going and have a conversation say, how
are you today? Yep. Good. What you being
up to? This and that. Nobody really wants
to know the good things that you're doing.
They wanna know, you know, like what fucker
has happened around the world. It seems to
inspire
more conversation. And I'm guilty of it myself.
You know, I like a I found times
well, it's adaptive. There's an evolutionary reason why
we do that. It's adaptive. Like, I'm not
in danger from the good news. Yep. I'm
in danger from the bad news. So that's
where my focus has to go. Yeah. If
I know this then it gives me preparedness.
Yeah. Mh. Which is fine when there's a
hundred of this living in a tribe. And
we're... Our biggest concern is how much food
we have to eat the running water,
what's happening with the neighboring tribe, but we
all good with them, like, super important that
we have a negativity bias at that point.
Yeah. Because life is generally pretty fucking good.
But now where life is
overwhelmingly
positive. Like, yet. We live in the most
incredible world. Yeah.
How do I get my heart rate going?
Yeah. So I'm gonna start fighting someone online.
I don't want a real fight. I could
get hurt in a real fight. I don't
want that. Gotta satisfy someone on the other
side of the world so that we can
just keyboard at each other. So now that
we've identified that. Let's talk about this Actual
video, which surfaced recently, which I think is
outrageous. Yeah. So I'm loa to do this.
We we do have to talk about it,
but the problem is. Because I hate drive
with both we're driving chat. We're driving traffic
to. And that's exactly why he's done it.
Yeah. But knowledge is power, the more people
know, like, why this kind of thing is
happening. And you still have the power to
ignore it. Right? Like, we're not posting it
anywhere I got Senate. I watched it the
1 time reluctant,
likewise. So there's a trick to watching stuff
if you're a real fucking asshole
You know that viewers don't count through the
Instagram viewer. If you want to watch a
Youtube video and not have the person benefit
from it, you should text that video to
whoever you want to watch it on Instagram
and watch it in the Instagram browser.
Alright. Yeah. Because then you don't get the
metric. They don't get the ad revenue. Right.
The ad revenue, it doesn't tire up, and
they don't get the money. Right. So they
might get the view count, I'm not sure
on that 1, but they don't get the
money. So just don't go to Youtube and
watch. Yeah, and the worst thing you can
do the very worst thing you can do
if you don't like someone is go to
youtube social to their name. That's the worst
thing you can. Because that shows
people are looking for this person. Yeah right?
So, like, that's the strongest metric you can
send the algorithm.
Is to search someone's name. So the weakest
metric is clicking a link. Right? Because it's,
like, that took no effort from you. Someone
sent that to you. That took no effort
from you. But if you get onto to
Youtube and search the person's name, go to
their channel,
peru the channel to find the video that
you wanted and then watch that video all
the way through. Yeah. You're getting fed their
shit for the next 2 weeks. Right Right?
Like because you can't send a stronger signal
than that. Right? Like that's very clear I
want this in my feed.
Right? So there's all the caveats to it
in that he's made this fucking stupid video,
essentially calling for the end.
Of working docs.
The level of
outrage and
overwhelming disgust that I had for it when
I first saw I looked at the author.
Of course, I looked at the author and
realized it was him. And then I thought,
well, no wonder,
it's just this clickbait cloud ness that I'm
trying to bash pursue.
And I just think to myself, how is
it that this human being can pride himself,
I'm putting out such trash.
But now after listening to the last 40
odd minutes of you telling why he pride
himself on it. It's no wonder because he's
making money out of other people's misery. My
honest opinion on Zach. And again, like, I
don't know the guy I've never met him.
Never had a conversation with him, don't plan
to. Right?
But like I said, I believe that he
initially did an overwhelming
good For the industry. I think that he
put out a lot of really good content
that was
helpful to the average pet dog owner and
probably
improve the lives of many dogs through doing
that. I truly feel that deep in soul.
But I think probably,
he has a mortgage that he has to
pay that he took on that liability
when he was
getting a ton of use. Mh. When he
was making a lot more money than he
is. It looks to me, like he is
in the death throws, like he's circling the
drain. Because to make that video
and the outrage
around it. Now I should point out, 1
of the reasons I'm big pissed off about
it is he stole a bunch of footage
from me. So
seal it if it's out there. Like, Yeah.
Well, I considered putting a copyright claim against
him, but I think he would get fair
use. Mh. Right? Because he doesn't credit me
anywhere in it. Right? And so
I probably could get him... Like, if I
really worded at ever if I put the
work in, I could probably get a copyright
strike on his channel. What he would do
is just demon monetize the video. Right? Right?
And which would be good. But
because he screenshot it off of my channel,
it still has my watermark on Right? So
you can see that it's mine. Right. And
it's the footage of Psa National. Yeah. I've
seen it. Yeah. Yeah. So I think he'd
probably get away with fair.
It would be a lot of dick around
for me to put that in Mh. And
very little outcome from it. Right? Like it
wouldn't be... It's not worth my effort to
do. But what I think is that he's
got to the point now where
I don't know of a single dog trainer,
even
the most staunch force free dog trainers. I
don't know of a single person that recognizes
him as a person whose opinion is relevant
in the training of adults. I don't know
of anyone that thinks that. That is a
a competent dog trainer. I think that well
I think he's left the realm of that
and just joined the realm of
entertainment. Yeah. For sure. Mh. Yeah. But why
his opinion should be relevant on how? Yeah.
It will no just working dogs, but dog
training in general. Right? Like, because he was
available at a time where he was impressive
to a person who just was looking to
teach a doctor rollover over. Right? These days.
The amount of fucking tutorials is madness. Right?
Like, there's
tons of really cool tutorials from really competent
people making really high quality stuff. Absolutely. And
never mind, like training techniques, like there's tons
of really high end 4 free trainers that
do a wonderful job of making content and
teaching really cool shit. Yeah. Again, I'll say
her name. If you wanna learn how to
use plus from a person who doesn't use
tools. Sarah. It's Sarah.
But she knows how to work a camera.
Yeah. She makes good content. She's the real
deal. She actually trains the dogs the way
that she says she trains them, and she
trains them in a highly thoughtful and self
provoking way. Yeah. So it's not like he's
the only option if you're like, oh, but
he's the only 1 doesn't he talk tons
of people who are really good that don't
use tools that have really good content. Right?
But I just think it's that shock or
that people keep repeating to go there because
they're kinda looking forward to You know, like,
I've heard the good news, what's the bad
news? What's the scandal today? Yeah. What we're
talking about that? When I was a kid,
and I used to go to church a
lot with my family.
1 of the things that used to always
strike me as a controversial topic was how
they would preach about
acceptance,
love, fellowship.
And yet it was always who's wearing what,
who's doing something wrong
the focus points on the discussions after Which
I'm not saying the minister did this, but
certainly the people within the flock of the
church.
We're talking smack about other people on an
ongoing basis. And I just thought, doesn't that
contra
what we're here for. And I remember 1
day when my grandmother was alive, she was
a very staunch Christian person. And I challenged
her on this, and I said to her
I'm struggling with this whole concept. When I
became of an age where
this started to make more sense to me.
I said, I'm struggling with this as a
concept. Like, you want me to come to
church. You're talking to me about the love
of god and Jesus and so forth, which
I'm down with. That's all cool.
It's not gotten Jesus that are doing this.
It's the people gathered around it. But I
said, you talk about people in a bad
light when they're wearing a hat that you
don't like or
when they're, you know, not driving an nice
enough car. And I said, what's that got
to do with fellowship? She just wanted to
shut me out of the conversation there. So
I see the parallels of that where people
in the dog training scope do the same
sort of thing. We tend to
focus more on that as a conversational piece
because we're thinking, oh, well, I'm just bored
of this other stuff. Let's go back to
the Smack talk.
Yeah. Yeah. We're guilty of it We're doing
this right now. Right? Like it. It's the...
How many times do I have to say
that I'm a guy with a pocket of
rock in a glass house. I'm fully accepting
of that there is no way know how.
Like, anybody who's listening to this that that
thinks that I'm trying to reclaim myself as
a perfect person and a role model to
the masses.
No. Not. There's things that both you and
I do exceptionally well,
everybody's got a hidden and tell them. Everybody's
a genius at something, like majority of people
I know have a remarkable skill at something.
But deep down, we can all be shit
at some stage doesn't mean that we're immune
to that sort of stuff, but the percentage
and how long you dwell there that says
something more to me about it. Mh even
in a dog sport world, there are people
that I know I know that they can
get a bit flare up, but there's people
that they congregate
together, like those missionary people, like, that's their
life. Their life is literally
resonating in that pool of sorrow,
hatred and mistrust and they're just a collection
of not the nicest people out there. And
even when I have those thoughts about them
and what they're doing, I try and channel
my inner Michael ellis.
Where Yeah. You know, I start thinking about,
there's like a Zen master. Well, he... The
nice thing about Michael is that when we
talk about the genuine people in the real
deal of like, Michael just doesn't talk that,
and this is not just blowing smoke up
his ass.
There are a lot of really
incredible people out there who talk about doing
better and offering charity to people that have
needed it. And there have been times where
I thought I do have to turn the
other cheek here.
But there have also been times where myself
and other colleagues in industry have turned to
cheek so many times how many fucking slaps
do you have to cop. Mh. Before you
say, alright, that's enough. How much of a
beating do I have to take from you
before I retaliate because I'm just sick of
this same
process
over and over again. I've given
I gave,
I've tried to give again, and all you've
done is reject my offerings, reject my generosity.
And you've seen my generosity as a sign
of weakness. And how do you? Honestly, how
do you? And that's why I think what
zach did was
completely outrageous to the people in the dog
sport world. Yeah. Where he aligned, and I'll
choose my words carefully,
but he made alignments with Ig
with Nazi Germany. Yeah. Well, so that's 1
of the most interesting things is that he
gave a very brief overview of the history
of Ig. Mh. And Ig is from late
18 hundreds in Germany. And instead of just
saying, from the late 18 hundreds in Germany.
It's from pre Nazi Germany. Yeah. Why would
you say, like? He said that multiple times,
and he tied the idea of having working
dogs
He's tied that to racism.
He's tied it to sexism.
He's tied it to slavery. The garage is
just incredible. It's the all the words that
are the hype words. And, like, of course,
everyone should fucking hate racism. I think racism
was quite interesting because I'm like, what kind
of fuck moron aren't, like, I just can't
I can't
be that, like I can't see how you
could be an actual racist. But like a
distance fucking so stupid to me. But, of
course,
that's something that everybody's outraged by. Right? Like
most of the planet when you hear that
there's systemic racism in something like, oh, fuck.
Really Jesus Christ. So we're still doing that.
And slavery as well, Like, fuck. And then
sex is it like, these are terrible things
that are present
everywhere in the world.
And we constantly have to navigate through the
world deal of these things and avoiding. But
they're the words that, oh my god. We're
tying racism to bite sports we can't have
bite boys because we can't have racism scissors.
Like, that's the draw that's trying to be
fucking made here. It's crazy. But they're they're
so obviously,
outrage baked things
that are being said in order to keep
eyeballs on the video or get eyeballs on
the video. And, you know, my take on
it,
because I've obviously, like, I've had
dozens of people in the last couple of
days
asked me about it, reach out to me
about it. Because not just because, you yeah,
where people in the space, but because my
footage and my fucking logo is all over
his video. Right? So, like, It's
have to this. Yeah. Right? It's very on
my mind. And I think that 100 percent,
he's circling the drain man. He is just
grabbing its straws,
just clutch at anything
that maintains eyeballs on his videos.
Because he's got sponsorship dollars. Like he would
have people telling him, like hey, man, you're
not hitting the kpis that we set for
you. Your sponsorship deal relies on a certain
number of views on your videos and a
certain number of click of your fucking links.
Yeah. And you're not getting those anymore. So
in order to get those, he needs to
be doing more and more outrageous things.
My issue with it all, like, where I
really take deep offense to it. Yeah. Well,
you know, there's at all saying, like, the
enemy of my enemy is my friend. Right.
And so I think what we see is,
you know, some people in our in our
space, sort of aligning with people because we
share a common enemy. Mh. And so
you see people, okay. Well, a lot of
the force free community don't like the fact
that it's a truth
that some of the really high power dogs
cannot be controlled with forced spray techniques. Absolutely.
Right? Like, that's just a truth and many
of them agree with that. Right? And so
their answer is
don't do the things with those dogs that
require those tools. So you get some people
and again, like Sarah who are like, okay,
Challenge accepted. She very serious dog. I've worked
a dog. It's for real. It's not a
weak dog that's easily controlled, and she's got
very careful mechanisms in place, and she's, you
know, very talented trainer to be able to
do the things that she does.
But still, it's fucking difficult compared to if
you could just give the dog crushing. Go
ahead Don't do that. Right? And in my
opinion, that's a better thing to do, but
that's my opinion. And that's how I feel...
I don't think it's any nicer to leave
dog without as much direction as I give
it direction, and sometimes that direction is ave
avert. Right now I'm totally at peace with
that. I feel like that's the way that
I should train dogs because that's the way
I would like to be trained. And
with some of the more obsessive
and impulsive dogs, I see myself in them
very much. Right? And so I think that
they would like the way that I train
them. But that's another point.
The thing is, a lot of people then
go what I want Tools band,
and so you guys are saying you can't
do your sport without the tools.
So I'm in support of anybody that wants
to ban your sport because I want the
tools that you use in your sport band.
And so the problem is what I think
is that we're facing is people like sack
others, you know, Peter and the the various
hive, is that they're band against us balance
trainers, and they're taking any sort of shots
that they can.
Imagine that they're in a fight, you know,
from their perspective, they're fighting. And I think
1 of the issues, you know, we always
have to keep in mind that when people
believe they have right on their side, they'll
fight ferocious. You know, when you believe that
you're correct, you're not just stirring shit, because
there's plenty of people who we see, like,
I've had armies of people fucking come after
me online over various things over the years.
Right? And the ones that are the most
interesting to me. Other people who had no
nothing.
But really think they're right. And they fight
the hardest. Yes. It's because all that they
are going to die. Yeah. And and I
appreciate those people much more. I think, oh,
they're very interesting people, and I can see
myself in there much more because I just
don't know a lot. Right? But they have
big feelings and they're true to their feelings.
I'm like, okay. Good. But so these people
band together can And the way that I
kind of imagine is they're in fight, but
they're fighting back to back against the hordes
that's surrounding them. Right? And they're back to
back where bodies were back to back. But
the problem is. They might beat us? Like,
that's certainly that's the way things are going.
But what do you think is gonna happen?
Do you think that, like, you're then gonna
turn around and cuddle each other when you're
fighting back. Back. Oh, mate. It's not a
fucking chance. You gotta turn around fight, and
then you're gonna be in the next battle,
and we're not gonna be around if fucking
can help because we'll be going. I have
famously said before not famously. But I have
said 4 that I was watching a video
of an evidence staunch force free person who
speaks at openly against the balanced community.
Who was complaining that they didn't like that
certain groups were coming after
things that they wanted to do with their
dog. And I just thought
Don't you guys actually see where this all
leads to.
Recalling back to the couple of episodes ago
where we started talking about my concerns and
even thoughts where I looked a little deeper
into it about the pharmaceutical companies. There's nobody
yet that's come back to me of all
the people that have had a discussion, and
even though we might have a bit of
an echo chamber, but there's still people that
I believe are electrical thinking people that I've
had long
conversations with about this. And they said, man,
I'm with you. I actually think that I
don't think this is an a balancing. I
just think it's a business. Opportunity where if
you're on the way, you've just gotta be
taken out of the way. And if you
can use the Z if you can actually
condition people to be a part of that
removing and bull you out of the way,
So it takes the blame away from them,
and then they become the problem, not the
other people who are the good guys who
can step in and say, hey, I can
fix this with a drug. Mh. If you
start looking at it deeply and
intellectually like that. You could see why you
would do it because if you were the
Ceo of that business, that's what you would
wanna do as well. You would wanna say
don't wanna be the bad guy this. I
wanna be the good guy. I wanna come
in with the rescue raft. I wanna tell
everybody the ship is sinking and get everybody
to run around do what they gotta do.
But I wanna come in and say, hey,
I can rescue a bunch of you. Some
of you can't, but there's a lot of
you I can, but I'll get as many
you on board my raft as I possibly
can. And that's what they do. Yeah. You're
just in the way and we're in the
way. Mh. We're presenting a problem because we're
holding off we're a resistance that's basically holding
off and say, We don't need these drugs
man. We don't need them, but they're thinking,
well, fuck you. We've got billions and billions
and billions of dollars, like we control governments.
We control the narrative here. You're a worm.
You're a hen laying an egg inside a
building. That's what you are. That's depressing a
little bit. Like, having to face that reality
sometimes, I've looked at that, and I thought,
that's what some of us are to these
elite people
who not many people say no to them
anymore. Mh. They're surrounded with so many people
who say, what's the monetary figure. Mh. And
I'll say What does it get to? And
I'll say, well, I need this, and I'll
say, yep, that's done. As long as this
happens.
Make this problem go away. Yeah. And anybody
who thinks that I'm just talking some fantastic
voyage here. Get your head red son? We're
a bit of a conspiracy theorist as cost
at the moment it, But it's just the
way really
because it's all coming out. It all the
world is, like, it's starting to sleep behind
the curtain and exactly Might. The cracks are
showing.
Interestingly and enough. The word conspiracy theory, it's
been around for a long time, but it's
been around more so since their Kennedy
assassination. Yeah. And anytime
anybody started to... Well, I mean, when the
president was killed by a lone gunman who
totally alone. Yeah. He had no influence from
anybody exactly just woke up 1 day, yeah.
I'll kill the president Where the secret service
hopefully, won't go near a slope roof. Yep.
Even in those, at times like that, when
people
analytical, deep thinking, people start scratching away at
the surface and think that doesn't sit well
with me.
The easiest way to make these people go
away is to link them to being a
pe
being some disgraced communist or something like that
because they've got the power to do it.
They've got the media backing in them. They've
got all these things by them side. So
again, you know, like, I don't wanna take
us that far down a rabbit hole and
turn it into a true conspiracy
podcast.
You know, like, we've tried to encourage people
to be deeper thinking.
I don't wanna be overwhelmed by this. Like
there are so many people that send me
a lot of videos to watch on some
of these things and some of them do
spike my interest some of them sent me
into a deep preparation as well. Yeah. Because
then I realize that the show that the
wizard of Oz is trying to show me
when I look behind the curtain and realize
you know, and I've used this example before
of dog trainers is they put this wonderful
magnificent
show on of this on the present figure
but the person controlling it is a weak
feeble old man pulling levers. Yeah. And it's
it's a mirage.
It's a trick.
But that's where they draw your attention. I
don't want you to look right, I want
you to look left, and that's how I'm
gonna control that narrative. Mh
Unfortunately, when we get into people like Zach
and some of these other people controlling that
narrative by using those terrible buzz words. Like
that is f,
for him to say things like that Let's
not even consider the ego. Let's talk about
how f that actually is. Yeah. And might...
But the throughput of it, the danger
to
the industry is is huge. The sporting dog
community should be outraged. Not just a sporting
dog community, he's talking about police dogs more
than anything. The funny thing about that dogs
that have been used for... Let's say, for
example, for protective purposes have been used for
thousands of years. You know, even the rot
wire and was formed through Roman armies coming
through... What was it called German germanium back
in the days and where these dogs were
left behind and then they became general purpose
dogs. I think policing dogs even started in
Belgium in Greenwich. I think that's the name
of the town. Really? I believe so. It
was started in Belgium, and this is old
information that I have. I could possibly look
it up on Check Gp or something like
that. But I believe that from the knowledge
that I have when I used to be
really into this, and I was really obsessed
by where did all this come from where
the origins of these dogs were coming from.
So the herd of dogs, the shepherd. It
it started in Belgium. It was popularized in
Europe and everyone believes that it started around
maybe 18 nineties or something like that. Well,
no. No. It can't. He's been around since
80 nineties. As what it is today. Police
dogs would have to be
hundreds of years older than that. Let's ask.
Yeah. We've got the ability to do so.
With Ig,
and it's original origins in Sc, tying that
to a regime of mass murder and so
forth and war wartime when this was actually
a breed suit ability test.
Their lies in an even further outrage. Yeah.
Here we go. Okay. Oh, no. You're right
about Belgium though. According to Chat Who's never
wrong about anything. Yep. It says that the
use... I asked the question what is the
origin of police dogs? And it says the
use of dogs and law enforcement dates back
to the middle ages when blood hounds were
used in Scotland and England to hunt down
outlaw outdoors. Yeah. However, the modern concept of
police dogs began in the late nineteenth century
and twentieth century in Europe. In Belgium, the
first organize use of police dogs occurred in
Kent, Belgium. That's in greenwich. Kent 80 99.
Dogs were trained for police work including tracking
and apprehension in Germany, following Belgium league, Germany
established its first police training school in 19
o 7 in Green.
If that's how you say that, German shepherd
became particularly favored for their intelligence strength and
versatility becoming the prototype for modern police in
the United Kingdom.
Began using police dogs around 19 10. United
States used police dogs in the Us started
to take shape in the 19 fifties. Right.
I'm not a cop. Never been 1. You've
never been a cop, but the truth is,
police don't provide like a really invaluable service.
Absolutely. It's really super necessary. There's a lot
of... There's a shit ton of police who
can think their lucky stars are still around
today because their dog took an eye from.
Yeah. Or or stood on a grenade for
him and cleared a blown away. But also,
there's plenty of people who are alive because
they got beaten instead of their fucking head
blown off. Exactly
very good point. It's just such a big
thing to make a flip and comment like
that. Yeah. Without understanding it. Exactly right. I
always use words carefully. I'm not a cop.
I've never worked the streets with a dog
you've at least done security work with the
dog. I've never done any of that. Right?
Like, After I first responder with a dog
like I've been in some heat imagine. I'm
a dog trainer. And when I was in
the army, I never deployed with a dog.
I was a gun fired, just my gun.
I never deployed with a dog myself. I
was in a company of others with dogs,
I've been around, but I personally have never
done that. Okay? So, like, put it out
there.
But they're a force multiplier. They keep people
safe There's plenty of people who are only
alive
because they got bitten by a dog instead
of being fucking killed in that situation. Well
Alive because my dogs yeah. There's people who
pay me with a bottle. But these days
people don't wanna hear about the law enforcement
side being they wanna hear that that goes
bad for law enforcement. Right? They they don't
wanna hear that. But there's plenty of people
who are only life it. And 1 of
the things, and this is something that, like,
I hold pretty deer is that I think
a lot of people who are having what
could turn out to be a fatal incident
for them. Are actually just in the midst
of a fucking giant mental breakdown. Right? Or
Are in the midst of the worst experience
of their life, and it's resulted in them
having some, like rage anger incident
which all of us have had at 1
point or another. Right? Like, everybody has fucking
gotten big mad, and hopefully, you were alone
in your room when that happened and you
punched the or something like that. But if
you were in a public place and people
called the cops on new, and then that
just keeps feeding into your rates. That's how
people get fucking shot dead. Yep. Necessarily sometimes
because they're fucking wig out. But you know
how many of those situations are peacefully resolved
by the police talk. Like, this is a
thing that I'm sure Zach george is not
fucking aware of how many times when someone
is fully rigged out and they cannot
be reason with when they see that police
don't come out, how often they asked it
to pat the dog. Oh, mate. And you
can completely dee a situation, with what was
meant to the dog was meant to be
that situation
enforce her. But because of the presence of
a dog and people can find comfort that,
it's able to kick them down a gear,
and we can go yeah, man. Just put
the knife down and you'll be allowed to
pat the fucking dog. They don't get to
pat the dog. The amount of people over
years, and especially more so, as you sort
of start to travel through the industry and
you get older and so forth. It's like
listening to the stories of an old soul
gonna, oh, yeah. Good on your old mate.
But you weren't there. You didn't travel that
ground. There's times where people have told me
stories about things I'm thinking. Mate, you're talking
like a person who wasn't there, who didn't
see that action. I know I stood some
of those streets. Some of the streets that
you're talking about in those stories. I was
there. I saw how real it was. I
didn't see you there. I was there. I
stood in those streets.
When people are telling me other stories like
this, and we're my grandfather and some of
my uncles used tell me stories about wars
that they fought in and some of the
things they saw I used to pay attention
to that shit because I thought, wow. I
wasn't there. I had no idea what that
was. And even then, like, they used to
keep an incredible amount of information out of
my ears because I was still a young
child, and they didn't wanna h me with
some of the horrible things that they had
to see and deal with. And it's the
same thing when I was there. But 1
thing that I do know for sure is
what you're saying about that is there's plenty
of times where I walked around the corner
with a dog and there's been violence escalating
where it's immediately diffuse because they've seen the
dog. If I walked around on my own,
it would have in inflamed the situation. Because
I brought the dog around the corner, They've
gone I. Let's rethink this situation. That's right.
Like, there is a mediation point in even
in people's minds. Where even when they're intoxicated,
and they can be in a deep state
of into and yet seeing the person like
a guy walking around the corner with a
security or or a law enforcement
uniform on. That doesn't calm them. That doesn't
usually subdue that type of person because they're
ready for complicated that's it. But they see
the dog and there's something p
that rocks them and they change. You know,
Like they look at this situation And instantly,
you can see, yes, I'm in a deep
stupid. Yes. I have some sort of na
psychotic or
alcoholic into effect over me. But my brain
media immediately, like this is a very dangerous
situation to been. I need to rethink this.
I think most people
carry, you know, the average person
carries a pretty decent fear of the wolf
out in the darkness. Yeah. And that is
represented by the dog that is unpredictable to
most people, and we're all terrified of
sharks there's plenty of people that won't go
in the water because I'll get eaten and
boy a shark. Yeah. That same
shark fee. Like, that's a real thing that
can obviously, this is 1 of the things
that he's talking about a video how it's
used to intimidate people, and and but it's
like him make... Sometimes that is the point.
That's the point. Right? Calling on the outrage
I spoke about before? How dare he associate
me
and anybody else that I've been associated with
they're men and women that I walk those
streets with. And all of the other people
that I know who have done it through
military,
law enforcement, security, whatever it may be dog
sports, how dare you associate me
with people that committed mass atrocities? Yeah. How
fucking da you. Yeah. That is so
disrespectful. Yeah. For all the men and women
that did that. My... The amount of community
service that I provided,
I was getting paid minimum wage. When I
was a young bloke, and I was scared
out of My fucking wit sometimes when I
was outnumbered grossly,
and thank god. I had my fucking dog
to save me in some of those situations.
Now I'm not gonna make stories up and
say that every night was trauma, but there
was some fucking hot spots that I got
fucking pushed into because everyone thought, oh, he's
got a capability. He can go in. And
we can save some money here. Great. We'll
send this guy in and I wore ed
first because I wasn't aware of the danger,
but I became abundantly aware of it when
I was fighting people off on the street,
but just my dog gonna fucking tele baton.
Yeah. Fighting for my life, like, literally, there
were times I was fighting for my life.
And it was a scary hell man. I
was young dumb full of fucking Bra.
And there were days where after it, I
thought to myself, nothing good really came at
that. Nothing good really came at that night.
But there other nights where I prevented women
from being raped in back alleys. I stopped
those things from happening. There were times where
I made
women feel safe, walking them to their car.
So when they came out of the night
nightclub and they felt vulnerable and scared, I
could provide a service for them where I
could help them walk down the road and
wish them a good night and see them
safely home.
Me and millions of other people around the
world have provided those services for people, How
dare you fucking
be little that, How dare you make that?
A fucking symbolism for your fucking Youtube channel.
Yeah as as absolutely disgusting.
Yep. So I think, you know, probably said
enough on it. But... Yeah. I think that
it's just very disappointing. May, I could honestly
cry right now. I mean, that's finish. And
it's sinister. And and what's pissed me off
about it is that my fucking logo is
any stupid fucking video. That's what is annoying.
Yeah. I know. I think just to sort
of around it. I think he should apologize
for that video. Well, I don't wanna deal
with him. So this is the thing, buddy.
He doesn't know what apology to you and
me. He knows apology to people who... Yeah.
But he's never do that. And I think
that the issue mate is even doing this
podcast broadcast. We're part of the problem. You
know? Well just final Yeah. People will go
and click on his on his link.
Yeah. And They'll leave a nasty comment, which
I don't subscribe to. I'm not asking you
to do that. Don't don't pay any attention.
Oh, you do. You do whatever the fuck
you want I'm on the else for you,
but I think that's part of the issue,
and that's what I wanted to sort of
explain how I feel about those kind of
things. And, like, I've... You know, there's been
plenty of things on social that I've seen
that, like, I'm like, oh, I've got big
feelings about that. And then I just scroll
past it and then it's out of my
life. Right? Like,
like, you don't have to get involved in
it. And as much as I would love
to
confront Zach George about this and be like,
hey, man. Like, you've made a lot of
big claims here. Ivan offered to debate him
and he's just can't blanche, turn them down.
Yeah. And so I think that's 1 of
the issues. Right is that I have a
lot of respect for Ivan. Ivan incredible trainer.
Yep. And Ivan sort of took him on
a little bit. Right? Because Ivan, I think
rightly is
enraged by him as much as everybody else.
But in reality, I think all that Ivan
actually did was put his name in Just
name in the same sentence. Yep. You know
what I mean? That's actually all that happened.
Well, he gave him his audience. Yeah. Yeah.
Of course,
if you're following, Ivan Ba then, if you're
a fucking real dog person. Right right? Like,
you actually into dogs in real training. Mh.
He's not posting bullshit if Ivan was posting
something. I mean, he's got his course. That's
why he has an online presence. He's got
a... He's got do all the same shit
that we're all doing. Right? And he does
that.
The podcast us at he's due. He's very
clever. He asked the right questions and the
right people. Some of them fucking torture. I
can't get through them.
But he rightly sets people up to paint
themselves into the corner, and he has other
real scientists on that genuinely
have the real deal
information and can deliver it correctly.
I truly believe that Ivan was as outraged
by Dac George's ass.
And got into a bit of a tit
for tat with him online. I don't think
that resulted in any more course sales Ivan,
but what it definitely resulted in is a
bunch of balance trainers then going and looking
at Zach George, and Zach George makes money
out that because he's not selling you anything.
He's buying your attention. Mh. And when you
get your eyeballs. Yeah. That's it. And because
then, you know, you're gonna watch Youtube videos
it's gonna be an ad for dog shit
food in front of it. There's gonna be
an ad for a stupid bed. He's gonna
try and put you into his community of
poor brain wash people, which are obviously not
gonna go into, and then he's also gonna
get his Youtube ad revenue.
So there's a bunch of things that he
gains from doing this. And we're feeding into
it, but that's why I wanted to set
the whole front of this episode up to
explain to you. Like, that's what's happening if
you go and watch that video. Now I
watched it. I did watch it. Fucking. I
watched it because I got it sent to
me by a bunch of people, and it
has a bunch of my footage in it.
But if you watch it, be aware, like
you're feeding into what exactly what you wanted
to do, But you're a big boy you
do your own thing. There's a sun quote
that came up the other day, which has
been sitting on my mind, and I just
feel this is appropriate for the conversation that
we've just had and it says,
an evil man will burn his own nation
to the ground to rule over the ashes.
Yeah. There you go. That's what's happening. Yep.
A great point.
Sorry for the people of Belgium where I
called Kent G. I was thinking of a
guitar brand not the town. There they go.
Rich is a guitar brand. Haven't spoken guitars
in a while. We haven't Helicopter going. It
hasn't...
I made 2 appointments, but on the 2
appointments that I made to go out there,
they had massive wind storms. Alright Like I
legitimately booked it in Yeah. And did a
second 1, but I just haven't made the
third 1 yet. Still wanna do it. Still
Keen. I was actually bummed because I had
the time at that time to do it.
And then suddenly, my workflow picked up again
and sort of cast me into a different
realm, but this happened. These things happen, and
I'm still enthusiastic to do it, and I'm
still playing guitar. Still trying to put in
a solid 45 minutes a night. Nice. Yeah.
Alright.
Chris. That's it. Yeah. For another episode, kind
of paradigm.
The conspiracy channel about the Endo,
deep state. Tell us on the podcast? What'd
you take on the? I know we've sort
of
take a position, real or not real. For
me? Yeah. Yeah. Real. Real For sure. Yeah.
We got 10 minutes before we got get.
Let's go deep conspiracy for 10 minutes. You
thought the podcast was over. You're wrong. Yeah.
Deep conspiracy now. Last 10 hop radio dishes
and everything. So, yeah. I I do believe...
I don't know who they are. Or I
don't know what they are. They've being described
as the Ana. Let's call them. Let me
give the... For people who are like, what
the fuck is Ana. Yes. Where's the story
come from? It's the Babylon pepperoni. Yeah. Where
did they find the the scrolls on it?
Like, it's a tablet. Right? That
Babylon long. Yeah. But what's it called? That's
it's got a real name. So.
Tablets. That's Aria scroll. Yeah. Okay. So there's
these Sum
scrolls or tablets. Yes. That describe an alien
race called the Ad, Yep. Who were... Like,
I guess they were humanoid, but much bigger.
And they're the things that are represented on
a lot of the mythology, like and there's
given there's a lot of ancient, like, carving
and stuff of these, like, really big creatures.
Yep. And what they say of that Inn,
the story is
like, it's a cool story. Yeah. It's a
great... Is that their planet, Nab bureaus at
the the planet. Had some sort of atmospheric
problems. Like it was like a global warming
type issue and they needed gold in order
to fix their atmosphere or something. Is interesting
because now they've even talked about putting like
reflective particles and their are own atmosphere to
reflect more sunlight away from the earth to
stop global warming. So it's a interesting thing
that somebody wrote down several thousand years ago.
It is. But they came to Earth and
created humans
from lower h
Yes. I, in order to be a work.
So it was an infused Dna between them
and us, But all... They also
kept our intelligence. Yeah. They in short their
life band. Sure spent. They would live for
tens of thousands of years or something like
that. Yeah. At least 3 to 4, I.
Yeah. And so they... There's a story of
a king that ruled for 20000 years or
something like that. But so they then created
us to be their workforce. Whatever reason,
it all broke up or whatever. True or
false. True. You're. I I mean, on it.
I'd like to be it on it. Like,
I deep dived donald. I spent weeks after
work just researching on it. There's some genuinely
credit that we were being taken seriously until
do it it's been.
There there's some genuinely credible people who have
spent a long deal, like, doing their thesis
on it. These people are not just stupid
whacked out people. Who sit around watching Star
trek and their underwear all day. Like, these
people are deep thinking people, and they just
can't get past the fact that ancient tools
and and even the way the scrolls were
derived and the mining that was going on
back then. Like, who did it and how
did they do it?
Their thoughts behind this when they have looked
deeply into it is, why isn't it being
discussed more? And why were you been encouraged
to look away from it? Like, why did
that happen?
When there was a lot of ancient knowledge
that could be shared and divided amongst humanity.
So but then other people might say, well,
the reason we've been encouraged to look away
is because it's an.
Yeah. It's not not true it's nonsense.
I'm not a scholar in it. In any
way, shape or form. I'm just somebody who
has interest in it. It's not something that
I wanna become overwhelmed with or occupy my
daily life, like, it's not something that I
jump on the reddit and an nasty channels.
Before I say that I absolutely buy into
it. What I'm saying is, I find it
plausible. Yeah. That... I think that's the punchline.
Yeah. And it's fun. Yeah. And it's fun.
It's interesting to think that the world has
been around a lot longer than what we've
been told. Yeah. When you're looking at carbon
dating and fossil and so forth like, there's
millions of years that the Earth has been
spinning around in space for. Well, the earth's
been, I think, 4 and a half billion
years that has existed. This has no ties.
It's just a movie. But if you look
at the movie, the matrix, when they talk
about, You know, I what's that last night?
Just started watch it With rip Rip wanted
to watch it. He watches teen titans. Yep.
And
there's... Which is a kid's cartoon.
Yeah. It's a... It's a show It's... Well,
ting Titans. Yeah. There's a kid's cartoon version.
Yeah. Right? And there's a lot of matrix
references in it. He was asking me like
what is the matrix. And as I sold
to him, the same way morph sold neo.
No 1 can be told what the matrix
is you have to experience it for.
But the matrix was such a fascinating movie.
For a lot of people, that's where I
think the journey began where people started questioning
a lot more because the matrix is 1
of those movies that inspires you to think
deeply into things. As the series of the
matrix started to unfold, they talked about how
there was often a reset because as the
machines became intelligent, and this whole war broke
out between Ai and humanity because it was
going on for thousands of years.
What they did was they developed a state
of Nirvana where they gave everybody everything that
they wanted. The Smith program says Demo morph
while he's holding him captive. Like, When we
gave everything to you, you were just depressed.
You weren't happy at all. So we had
to create, like a balanced
equilibrium where there was good and bad that
you had to
want for things you had to earn and
gravitate towards real constructive life like you used
to have it. Like, giving you everything wasn't
the answer that you wanted.
So it was interesting
that, even in the concept of the matrix,
whereas
when you would probably think about designing a
film like that, why not look at our
own history and think, well, we've only been
on this earth for a very small footprint?
What about what came before us? Yeah. So
that's what I think. Like, now we're into
deep conspiracy.
If
stop listening. If you isn't stuff.
But all, I reckon that we share the
earth
with something else. I think that what we
think of as aliens are are not Aliens,
I think that they're,
like, maybe evolved from deposits or something like
that. So they're they're so far away from
what we identify as a life form that
we don't even
understand them. And I reckon they could hold
a fucking compress conference and go, hey, we're
gonna explain to you what we are, and
we wouldn't be able to understand it. Science
are still confused about the Dna of the
octopus. Well, this is the thing Right? So
the octopus split from us at like meal
worm. Right? So, like, you have more than
400000000 years ago.
They went left and we went right or
what became us went right. Mh. And I
think that in the same way that you
can trace our lineage
back from, like, human to chimp and blah
blah all the way back to probably some
very early mammal, like a little rodent kind
of thing. Yep. I think that there's probably
something
that goes back to octopus. So you're just
explaining away Christianity and adam and eve.
Not really. I I could tell about that
as well. Yeah. Like. I I think that's
an interesting story as well. I've been obsessed
with mythology my whole life. I'm because I
like telling telling stories. And I think that
mythology is just that probably nobody really notices
anybody's tattoos, but all my tattoos are all
my favorite stories from different methodologies.
I'm very religious, but just not in the
way you might think. Like I think that
all those stories are very real. But they
all have their peace. And they're not literal
telling. So I think that they're
important things that people should know
And I think the problem with now we're
crazy down. It I think the problem with
religions is that people write things down, and
that was kind of the death of what
should be. The moment you write it down,
then it's that. Whereas it's meant to be
the vibe of it, and you need to
be out to in the telling of the
story,
change the vibe, Yeah. Or change the specifics
in order to keep the narrative the same
bit so that people understand it because, like,
I don't identify with a 2000 year old
book. It doesn't hold It doesn't hold anything
that's relevant to me. But there is heaps
of stuff in there. But if people had
been allowed to tell those stories. Those stories
would be completely different,
but the context like the message would be
the same. Mh. That's what I believe.
Alright. That's enough conspiracy theory.
Did we took a turn from Zach George.
Didn't we? Yep. Good. Our show. Mh what
we want. That's it. We're not trying to
get your views. Where does Waffle into microphones.
So how many are you you into the
30 to 50000000?
No millions? No means. But a lot of
thoughts and prayers. Lots of thoughts and prayers.
Yes. Yeah. Which is cool. I actually had
a shockingly large number of people reach out.
So did I had so many people like,
the week before,
I had a bunch of people reach out.
And then now I had another bunch of
people reach out and say, hey, It's a
good idea. And I said, so what are
you down for? Yeah. I've had quite a
lot of people be like, man. I'm in.
I'm like, to to what extent. Yeah, 30
to 50000000 And they're like no. Thought press.
I was like, alright. Okay. Well, we need
those as well. So we'll keep to, like,
email. Yep. Anyway. Hey. That's it.
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