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Now, here are your hosts, Glen Cook, and

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Pat Stewart. And I'm lofty Fulton. And I'm

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out of here. Hey I need to tell

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some. Oh, god. What is it? Some time

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ago, we did and add... Episode where we

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talked about how we were going to get

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better with air ads.

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So shit

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said

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gonna get better and we just

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so full shit.

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Alright. Well, here they are? We got 5

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sponsors currently. Alright. Who are they? First is

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the O? The winner. Oh, that knob the

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buff. Yep. Now. He's the O Been with.

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He's star he's good. He's gonna sell you

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whatever you need. Yep. You'll get it. What

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you should do is contact Jason from Minds

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don't quit, mh with some peculiar product, tell

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him you want it and make him get

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it in and sell it to you. Even

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if you could buy it somewhere else, just

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make sure he gets it in for you,

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just make that bastard work.

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But in all Honesty, I'd say 90 percent

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of my shit comes from him, and it's

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all the best stuff. I did see some

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feedback on our forum where somebody was really

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intrigued about your handler package. So mother he

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got from Jason. Obviously, it worked. Yeah people

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are paying attention to the daily great. Even

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though we're shoot at this, we do a

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terrible job of actually trying to keep things

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updated. It's it's great to see that the

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people who are investing in our show are

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actually getting some Leeway. Yep. Might I've heard

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that your wife sell some can products. It's

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My wife is doing great guns at the

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moment. I said before that she's being supported

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terrific in the United States which has been

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good, but I will... Swing that back home

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and say that so many more people in

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Australia are doing it, and it's great to

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see, like, there are people

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finally in the sporting dog world who are

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starting to prioritize newt nutrition for the dogs.

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And I know, I can see them when

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Na comes and says, oh, I guess who

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bought some product off me for the first

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time. So are you're saying there's no patient

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confidentiality? No. You're a confidentiality. Oh, sorry. It's

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list confidentiality. What's a automating list. You... Are

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you aware my dog is taking p

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collagen and... What is everything takes? Anton. Anton.

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Yeah. Yeah It's been on that.

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Is not Nor ale business, but I've gotta

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do a shout out for.

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Absolutely fantastic the very supportive of our show.

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Mh. Whenever we've done seminars hours and so

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forth, they have been first to dip their

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hand in their pocket. They are very generous

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with their product.

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But let me just say all that aside,

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their generosity and their advertising and marketing. Let

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me just say on the other side of

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that their product is amazing. Yeah. Like it

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does work. It's very official. For sure. It's

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1 of those things where they say Anton

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for every dog every day. I totally agree

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with that. Nor has even supported that when

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people have asked them about her product, she

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says, the 2 things that I would absolutely

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give to you is Anton and her gut

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protect formula. Yeah. Gut protect is like her

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holy grail. Of of a whole of the

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range. This is not me market talking. Okay?

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Because we are an mad. This is this

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is an ad, but this is not made

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to a market. But we've already pointed out

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we're she at. I know. Of all the

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things that she sells and she sells some

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killer product. But the 1 thing that she

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does sell, which I absolutely agree with her

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every dog should have this product is the

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gut protect. Really? A hundred percent. It's nothing

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that they need for being sick. It's something

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that they need to do just to maintain

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great gut balance. Okay. And gut balances like

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mental health That's 1 of those things that

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you absolutely wanna get control around. So products

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like anton, Great every day. Gut protect, great

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for every day. There's other products that aren't

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even related to hers called things like call

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rose vital and stuff like that. Absolutely fantastic

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for dogs to be on every. Sort day.

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Mh. But I know there's other people we

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need to talk about. If you wanna learn

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more about Nor products, go to a website,

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canine

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dot com I think it's busy.

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I think it's till you'll figure it out.

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It's dot dot au. It's 1 of the.

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No touch anyway. Everyone just google's it and

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just Google it. You'll find it. Hey. Yeah.

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George. Alright, I wish she get him on

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the show. We should have George On the

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show. Not only is he devilish handsome. Yep.

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But he's got a fantastic

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1 of a kind product that I've never

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seen replicated anywhere in the world. You or

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me, we're getting a car ride by him.

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We got to see the prototype firsthand. And

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then he's bike got Stolen with the prototype.

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That? Yes. Yeah. But anyway, George has Rowdy

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had dog box. So it's a crate that

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goes on the back

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that you don't can go over with you.

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Yeah. It's cool shit. It's a great idea.

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You should totally get 1. Taylor canine in

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Canada. Yeah. Do you know that Taylor? From

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Tele is hosting Jazz W later in the

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year? I do know that. Yes. So I

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saw the ad. Very good. Yep. So only

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she doing great stuff with her

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Tailored canine. Her training business, training business, but

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she's also getting a fantastic trainer over there

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to help with her tailored training. Cheers. And

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finally, Mh. Barber Groot. The sugar mama from

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the heart dog trainer heart dog trainer. Just

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fucking throws cash just supports the show God

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bless. Yeah. I think later on the year

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when And I are over doing a seminar

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with Melanie Ben. Barbara D group is coming

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I think she has put down a a

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like, and I said you better come sugar

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mama and she gave me a thumbs up.

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So hopefully, she's gonna be there, and I

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can give her some love to repay us

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for all the kindness and support that she's

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thrown At asked nothing in return. Alright. That's

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our ad. Yeah. That one's good to go

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for at least another 4 years. We'll hear

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from us then.

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Welcome back to the can Paradigm. I'm your

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host, Pat Stewart. I'm joined studio today by

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my c host, Glen. Here we go. Ready

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for another 1. She we just talk straight

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in. Let's get straight into it. We don't

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need to talk about Trump being assassinated anything

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on. This we? No. No. We definitely don't.

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I think enough people are talking about that.

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Yep. It's everywhere. Yep. Okay. Hey.

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Oh, that's set it a couple of times

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on the show, and I've set it to

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plenty of people in

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Ir in real life. Ir. I love that.

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Yeah. I love that. That I have this

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plan. Yep. And it's a pretty loose plan,

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Like, I haven't sort of gone too deep

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into the details of it, but I have

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this sort of

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vision. Mh. Of how I would like to

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shape and manipulate the dog world in Australia.

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The working dog world Alright? So we're taught...

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When I say working dogs, I mean, dogs

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with jobs, and especially jobs within the government.

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Alright? So detection dogs, police, patrol dogs,

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special forces, dogs, swat team dogs, the whole

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of working dogs. Right? Can I derail this

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just slightly for a minute? We only just

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begun? I know. Now that you're mentioning this,

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here and we had a brief

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conversation around this, and it bolts onto your

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conversation in a way.

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Because I really feel that what we need

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in this country, not just in this country,

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but all over the world, as you listen

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to conversations and you watch what people are

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talking about social media, and that is d

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development. Mh. Because it goes in line with

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developing this holistic program where you're talking about

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a resolution with

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producing the right type of dogs, importing the

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right amount of blood lines, providing better breeding

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practices for working style dogs, etcetera, etcetera,

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That's all great. But if we still have

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issues with D decor not being developed properly,

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which was great that we had that d

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c development camp, and you've been highlighting this

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over a period of time

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because there's still a problem with d c,

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jamming dogs up, being too focused on their

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social media activity. That I do see that

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as a massive issue. Well, it's funny to

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say that because that's part of my thing.

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Let's go through your step by step program.

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Yeah. So what I've talked about is that

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I have this loose plan and

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the only thing holding me back from achieving

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it is money. Yep. I haven't costed it

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fully because I can't really do that. But

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as a sort of broad

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strokes,

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I think I could achieve what I wanna

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to achieve with about 30000000 dollars. Yep. Now,

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I know that there's people in their cars

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like, oh, only 30000000 dollars pat, but here's

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the thing.

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Money's not real. Right? So for the government

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to spend money on infrastructure projects,

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that's where money comes from. Right? So when

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we talk about how they've printed money or

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that there's new money come into the economy

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or whatever. It's not that they literally print

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more money and that money comes into it.

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It's that they spend money into existence. Mh.

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government spend money into existence via infrastructure projects.

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the economy. That's why they say you gotta

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spend money to make money. Yeah. That's how

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it goes within all the countries, especially now

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we're not back by any gold standard. Like

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money's is not real. It's fucking... It's completely

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fake. It's just ones and zeros. We've agreed

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to use this idea that this is our

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So I learned this when I was working

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in the government is that the costing of

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things is so strange. The army has this

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Army capability management systems where you get into,

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like, the back end of the budget, basically,

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kinds of silly things that exist within government

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in that money is put into different buckets,

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and you can only draw from certain buckets

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in order to achieve certain things. For example,

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back at my old unit,

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capability

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is put into 1 bucket, and then that's

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broken into multiple buckets as well, but travel

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is another. So for example, if I wanted

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to do a course. Right? If there was

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an instructor somewhere in the world, we used

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to get in a a sniper instructor guy.

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Right? Who's used to do supplemental

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training to the snipers within the unit. And

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so to bring him to Australia,

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to run a course, the course then has

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a certain cost per student. Right? Like, that's

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what he's gonna charge. But it's cheaper for

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him to do that at his own facility

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in the Us. The cost per student is

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lower. So it actually made more sense for

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us to send people to the Us to

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do his course where we were paying less

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per student, but their travel and their hotel

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accommodation, all of that kind of stuff the

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incidental because they get paid differently while they're

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there, that's from a different budget. Mh And

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so for the person running the sniper sell,

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whose job it is to up upscale snipers,

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his training budget is completely separate from his

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travel and whatever budget. That comes from a

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different pool of money. So you get kind

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of dumb things like that in the mill

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in... Not just in the military, but in

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government all the time. Right? And so when

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I say it's 30000000 dollars at a minimum

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probably. Right?

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I know that there's lots of people just

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going, like, oh, that's ridiculous, but it's not

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it's not even in the slightest. And 30000000

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dollars to long term

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solve what is actually a quite a significant

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and looming problem that government is gonna face

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in Australia that not too many people are

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really very aware of. You know, like, I

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think that there isn't to my knowledge within

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the working groups.

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There isn't anybody highlighting to anybody who cares

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or fully understands the difficulty in getting dogs.

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Even on last week's topic that we brought

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up. The fact that people aren't aware that

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the floor is not going to drop out

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of it. It's already starting to drop out

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of it now. That scarcity is already upon

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us. Yeah. So we see this say in

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Victoria here in Australia where bite sports are

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banned and we've talked about that. Mh. Is

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that that has significant effects

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because a lot of the breeding

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of dogs that are capable of police type

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work.

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That's now limited to very few people because

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they don't have many customers now. Right? So,

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like, if you're if you as a breeder,

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are breeding dogs suitable for that kind of

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thing.

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Well, now you've only got security guys and

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the police who are interested in buying dogs.

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Now you can never counter the police to

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buy anything from because they have all these

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budgeting concerns and there's bureaucracy and all these

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kind of things. So if you're relying on

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them to buy to pay your bills, you're

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fucked because they're gonna leave you high dry.

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Not because there's any mouse temper, that's just

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the way that bureaucracy works. Right? So there

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isn't a pet of dog work

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within the Australian government that I'm aware of

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anyway. Yes. We have these conferences and there

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are times where You're, like, they have these

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working dog groups that different government agencies will

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attend, and there was a time when I

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was at least even aware if not peripheral

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involved in those things, but I'm not anymore.

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I'm a full blown civilian now. Like aside

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from having been in the army 9 years

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ago, I'm not involved in any of that

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shit anymore. Right? I'm sure that those kind

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of groups go ahead, and I know that

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Army has a capability manager for dogs. But

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to my knowledge, there's nobody within the federal

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government

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who has, like, reached down or

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observation of the state of play of working

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dogs within the country. The other limiting factor

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on that too is the incredible amount of

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wash out of talent.

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And all of the training, all of the

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history

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all of the resources that they have gathered.

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As an outsider, it seems that very minimal

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goes into the next bunch of recruits that

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are coming through. And it seems to me

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that when you watch that, the loss of

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all that experience that you're losing it within

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that new recruiting basis as well. Yeah. Now

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that may be unfair. I might be saying,

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you know, you and I were just having

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a conversation with

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Michelle's mom and dad before, although we're here

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about how people have an expert viewpoint on

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things that they're not directly plugged into. And

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that might be a case here because I'm

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not directly plugged into Army logistics.

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Or police force logistics. I've friends and colleagues

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in there that talk to me about their

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budgetary

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frustrations. And the fact that, you know, like,

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if they're given a pool of money to

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spend, and the minister comes along and says,

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oh, you didn't spend all that. Well, that's

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what you're gonna be short next year and

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next year's budget. Yeah. I mean, that's always

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the case with most government departments. Right? You

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don't spend your yearly allocation. It gets taken

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from you the next year. That's broadly speaking

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true. That's not like strictly linear. That's why

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I'm saying, yeah. I'm not really in the

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office there. So I can't say that I

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have fact on that. Yeah. It's just conversations

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I've had with frustrated people who say, we're

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short on the tools this year or we're

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short on the capability to buy these extra

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3 dogs.

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Because last year, we didn't meet the budget

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requirements because of x y and z. Yeah.

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And there is some truth to that because

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that's coming directly from the horse's mouth. Yeah.

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This is part of the issue of

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larger government departments. There's a there's a huge

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disconnect between end users, the people who we

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will actually interact with. Mh. And the people

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who sit behind computers and count the beans.

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That's There's a huge disconnect there. I was

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really lucky when I was hour had it

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really incredible mentor for a period of time

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miss Guy, wednesday's day's navy is doing, But

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he was my sergeant major. Yep. In various

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roles across 2 different units. We moved together.

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I worked under him for roughly 4 years.

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Right? He was sort of within my very

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direct chain of command. And

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he was an incredible mentor actually,

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and taught me a lot of the behind

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the scenes stuff. But someone's gonna join the

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army to be a clerk and be the,

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like company clark that does all the paperwork

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and stuff He made me do their full

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training suite as though I was the new

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person who had just joined the army and

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he made me go through, could you can

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do it online. Wow He made me do

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their entire thing. And I was like, mate,

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I'm a god

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fucking clock. I I don't give a fuck

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about how to manually

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input somebody's

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qualifications into the system. Yep. But

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couple of years later when I don't have

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to rely on close to do anything for

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me. Because there's not enough of them. They're

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overworked to under pay all the same things.

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Now I can do that shit myself. Right?

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And same as budgeting, like, I don't have

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to go to the meetings to try and

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fight for the budgeting. I can get into

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the system and do it myself. Right? So

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it was the incredible

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skill set that he forced me to acquire

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that I did not appreciate at the time.

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But then when I had it I was

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like, oh, holy shit. This is incredible. Right?

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But it offers you inside as well. That's

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times and perspective is everything

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as I alluded to before, There's often times

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where I've commented on things and I've had

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rage or I've had big feels about it.

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But I've had no real perspective on it.

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It's just a feeling or you know, like,

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I'm siding with an Ally when they have

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frustrations about it. But when you do have

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perspective on these things, when you are included

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in the actual conversation, and you can see

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how,

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like, the example I said before when the

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floor is falling out of things because you

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don't have an allied group in those people

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who are doing the accounting, and then also

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allocate funds to you to be out to

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have that preparedness to do your job adequately.

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That's grossly unfair. Yeah. Grossly unfair. Yeah. And

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that's happening to a lot of our service

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men and women, in dog units all over

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this country. Mh where they're incredibly

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underfunded. For sure. Yeah the without doubt. Yep.

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So all of that is to help people

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understand that money's is not real and government

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money spending. 30000000 dollars is fucking nothing. Right?

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I agree with that because there's plenty of

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times where guy way more. Absolutely. Friendly Jo

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highlights at all the time. All the skeletons

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in their closets where they're trying to hide

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it where they've funded money to their mates

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and funneled money here there and everywhere. He

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pulls it out and says, there's hundreds of

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millions of dollars that are just being lost.

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Exactly. What I wanna do

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fits perfectly

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into the correct way that government spends money

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into existence. I wanna spend a bunch of

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money. I wanna do that mostly within Australia.

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So the money would stay here and just

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go into the economy. I wanna employ a

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bunch of people and I wanna create a

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massive change. So I'm gonna talk about how

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I wanna do that. Alright? Cool so the

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first thing is that I wanna point out

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is that I'm not sure that I wanna

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do this. There's no ego involved in this.

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From here on out whenever I say I,

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I'll be referring to myself as the purse

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because this is my vision. I'm happy to

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hand this vision over. Right? But what's super,

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super, super important

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is that there is an enduring project manager

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throughout this. Yep. Right? Now that's 1 of

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the things that I cannot stress enough. And

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what we see in government roles is that

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everything is like stepping stone type jobs. Right?

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It's rare that people are in a job

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for 10 years or more. Right? Because they

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have ranks. There's careers that have to be

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highlighted.

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This is 1 of the things that people

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don't understand about, say, like, special forces dog

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handlers. Right? Nobody really wants to become a

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dog handler because it's a career killer. In

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that you get... If you get too specialized

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at anything, it's very difficult to go back

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into the assault teams. Mh. And so nobody

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really wants to that. So like Snipers is

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the worst. Because if you as a a

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digger, get qualified, it like likes a dig

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I mean, like private, lowest rank.

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If you get qualified as a sniper,

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and you're good at it and you go

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into a sniper team and you spend the

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next 5, 6 years in the sniper teams,

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and then you come back as a Lance

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corporal junior leader to the assault teams. Those

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assault teams don't wanna fucking know you. Because

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they're like, nah, you've been sitting on rooftops.

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You're not an assault anymore. You've become that

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specialist thing, and the sniper platoon is like

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30 guys where the assault teams, there's hundreds

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of them. Yeah. And so there's no career

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progression in snipers. Like the highest rank you

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can get to within snipers is the sniper

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platoon sergeant. That's it. You're done. Right? So

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nobody wants to go into specialist roles because

518
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it destroys your career. Right. And so what's

519
00:19:16,411 --> 00:19:18,953
important to know about this is that this

520
00:19:18,953 --> 00:19:20,645
project must have

521
00:19:21,098 --> 00:19:21,598
a

522
00:19:21,972 --> 00:19:23,585
enduring project manager

523
00:19:24,054 --> 00:19:26,615
that sees it through. Hundred percent. So I'm

524
00:19:26,615 --> 00:19:28,054
happy to with Fx as well.

525
00:19:28,694 --> 00:19:30,694
Otherwise, then you get pulled into the same

526
00:19:30,694 --> 00:19:33,422
pool that allegedly Greyhound new South Wales is

527
00:19:33,422 --> 00:19:35,803
because they're under the microscope at the moment

528
00:19:35,803 --> 00:19:36,303
because

529
00:19:37,152 --> 00:19:37,652
allegedly,

530
00:19:38,026 --> 00:19:41,304
their project manager has been favoring friends

531
00:19:41,614 --> 00:19:44,191
according to Ray Hadley where they've been mis

532
00:19:44,490 --> 00:19:47,047
funds to train our buddies and all sorts

533
00:19:47,047 --> 00:19:49,378
of people in the industry. Really? Yes. I'm

534
00:19:49,378 --> 00:19:50,174
not aware of all this.

535
00:19:51,129 --> 00:19:53,993
That's why the role that you're talking about

536
00:19:53,993 --> 00:19:56,221
is pivotal in making something happen like this

537
00:19:56,221 --> 00:19:58,889
because if you have somebody who allegedly

538
00:19:59,426 --> 00:20:02,616
mis appropriate funds to their friends and colleagues

539
00:20:02,616 --> 00:20:05,009
in the industry, then it all falls apart

540
00:20:05,009 --> 00:20:06,579
it comes under scrutiny, and then you get

541
00:20:06,858 --> 00:20:08,930
held with the blame. Yeah. To that end,

542
00:20:09,089 --> 00:20:11,560
what I will say is though, this project

543
00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:12,038
manager,

544
00:20:12,436 --> 00:20:14,132
me. Yep. Needs

545
00:20:14,524 --> 00:20:16,762
discretion to spend the money appropriately. And that's

546
00:20:16,762 --> 00:20:18,620
1 of the issues. That's why these long

547
00:20:18,839 --> 00:20:21,556
transparency. Yeah. Total yeah Total transparency. Right? Mh

548
00:20:21,636 --> 00:20:24,710
But there needs to be that level of

549
00:20:24,849 --> 00:20:26,690
control over this, which is why it would

550
00:20:26,690 --> 00:20:28,930
be best done as private industry. Yep. And

551
00:20:28,930 --> 00:20:31,102
again, 1 of the reasons why bothering to

552
00:20:31,102 --> 00:20:32,377
explain all of this and laid it all

553
00:20:32,377 --> 00:20:34,849
out. Is just in case. Somebody's like, hey,

554
00:20:35,008 --> 00:20:36,603
Pat, turns out I'm the secret billionaire,

555
00:20:37,081 --> 00:20:39,567
and I like doing the right thing. And

556
00:20:39,726 --> 00:20:41,556
I see your vision and I wanna make

557
00:20:41,556 --> 00:20:43,226
it happen. This is how I would make

558
00:20:43,226 --> 00:20:46,034
it happen. Okay? So it definitely needs

559
00:20:46,504 --> 00:20:47,482
a visionary,

560
00:20:48,019 --> 00:20:50,571
the person who will oversee the whole thing

561
00:20:50,571 --> 00:20:52,166
and want to see it through to completion,

562
00:20:52,724 --> 00:20:55,516
they need to be there throughout. Right? Yep.

563
00:20:56,008 --> 00:20:57,833
As well as have the help that needed

564
00:20:57,833 --> 00:20:59,658
along the way. Okay. So that's established.

565
00:21:00,452 --> 00:21:02,118
Here's the first thing that needs to happen.

566
00:21:02,753 --> 00:21:05,311
I would, first of all, establish a bunch

567
00:21:05,311 --> 00:21:07,859
of committees of people. Now those committees of

568
00:21:07,859 --> 00:21:10,805
people, again, let me take another minor step

569
00:21:10,805 --> 00:21:12,000
back. We're a little bit all over place

570
00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,029
but that is our style. Yeah. The reason

571
00:21:14,090 --> 00:21:16,650
our club is called Ion fist Psa. The

572
00:21:16,650 --> 00:21:18,650
reason we named it that is because I

573
00:21:18,650 --> 00:21:20,730
feel like a lot of the time committees

574
00:21:20,730 --> 00:21:23,699
and working groups and too much of a

575
00:21:23,699 --> 00:21:25,234
a linear hierarchy

576
00:21:25,769 --> 00:21:29,193
creates problems because it's a choke point. Right?

577
00:21:29,670 --> 00:21:30,728
Imagine a narrow

578
00:21:31,198 --> 00:21:31,698
pathway

579
00:21:32,154 --> 00:21:33,986
that is your success. You need to go

580
00:21:33,986 --> 00:21:35,341
through that narrow pathway of success.

581
00:21:36,058 --> 00:21:37,115
That is why

582
00:21:37,492 --> 00:21:40,120
very pointy hierarchy systems work.

583
00:21:40,852 --> 00:21:42,525
Because you have a person at the front

584
00:21:42,525 --> 00:21:44,038
who says this is what we're fucking doing.

585
00:21:44,436 --> 00:21:45,892
I'll take all of your

586
00:21:46,269 --> 00:21:48,817
information in. I'll bounce it all. I'll weigh

587
00:21:48,817 --> 00:21:51,544
it all against what I know. And the

588
00:21:51,544 --> 00:21:52,762
thing of hi

589
00:21:53,379 --> 00:21:55,852
is that information trickle down that hierarchy, but

590
00:21:55,852 --> 00:21:57,463
not all of that goes down. So what

591
00:21:57,463 --> 00:21:59,537
you always have to remember when you're involved

592
00:21:59,537 --> 00:22:02,191
in any form of command and control hierarchy

593
00:22:02,489 --> 00:22:05,216
is that the people above you probably no

594
00:22:05,216 --> 00:22:07,450
more than you. Right? And they're giving you

595
00:22:07,450 --> 00:22:09,204
the amount of information that you need to

596
00:22:09,204 --> 00:22:11,517
do your job. So as not to burden

597
00:22:11,517 --> 00:22:13,910
you with more information than you need. Yep.

598
00:22:14,323 --> 00:22:16,710
And so there needs to be a very

599
00:22:16,710 --> 00:22:19,017
clear command and control at a central point

600
00:22:19,017 --> 00:22:21,894
above, but the next thing that needs to

601
00:22:21,894 --> 00:22:23,825
be done, and this is the first weakness

602
00:22:23,881 --> 00:22:26,424
that we'll encounter is establishing committees of people

603
00:22:26,424 --> 00:22:28,983
to give their input. If you heard Steve

604
00:22:28,983 --> 00:22:31,298
jobs talking about the progression of Apple

605
00:22:31,856 --> 00:22:34,171
Corporation, how he didn't actually wanna develop it

606
00:22:34,171 --> 00:22:36,405
as a group of committees, but more so

607
00:22:36,405 --> 00:22:38,644
that it was constantly viewed as a startup

608
00:22:38,644 --> 00:22:39,383
up company

609
00:22:39,835 --> 00:22:42,693
ongoing. So we could have somebody responsible in

610
00:22:42,693 --> 00:22:45,155
each department. Yeah. Then they come together, they

611
00:22:45,155 --> 00:22:45,655
spend

612
00:22:46,043 --> 00:22:48,108
4 to 5 hours once a week going

613
00:22:48,108 --> 00:22:50,174
through all the projects where they are, where

614
00:22:50,174 --> 00:22:52,501
they're heading where the funds have been allocated.

615
00:22:52,875 --> 00:22:55,756
And that way, everybody in that department has

616
00:22:55,756 --> 00:22:57,351
got their neck on the block to make

617
00:22:57,351 --> 00:22:59,506
sure that their department is running as it

618
00:22:59,506 --> 00:23:01,795
should be. Yep. But he said in the

619
00:23:01,914 --> 00:23:04,136
funding and the managing and in speaking to

620
00:23:04,136 --> 00:23:06,302
colleagues in the industry. He said, I cannot

621
00:23:06,516 --> 00:23:08,500
stress a better way to do it than

622
00:23:08,500 --> 00:23:10,246
treated it as. It's always a startup company.

623
00:23:10,739 --> 00:23:12,894
It's important to know that while we're are

624
00:23:12,894 --> 00:23:14,889
interested in the input of many people,

625
00:23:15,528 --> 00:23:18,162
we're gonna weigh and balance that against the

626
00:23:18,162 --> 00:23:20,490
bigger picture, there will be a decision maker.

627
00:23:20,729 --> 00:23:22,643
Mh. The first sort of committee that I

628
00:23:22,643 --> 00:23:24,716
wanna set up is people to talk about

629
00:23:24,716 --> 00:23:27,029
blood lines. And what blood lines are, you

630
00:23:27,029 --> 00:23:28,065
know, speak objectively,

631
00:23:28,559 --> 00:23:30,712
and decide on what blood lines from around

632
00:23:30,712 --> 00:23:33,026
the world we want to start to harness

633
00:23:33,026 --> 00:23:35,338
and how we're going to develop those. What

634
00:23:35,338 --> 00:23:37,652
ones we have here, what's available to us

635
00:23:37,652 --> 00:23:39,979
and how we can get started. That's important

636
00:23:39,979 --> 00:23:42,529
to start figuring out. I think that 1

637
00:23:42,529 --> 00:23:44,283
of the issues that we often face is

638
00:23:44,283 --> 00:23:46,058
that it's tricky because

639
00:23:47,006 --> 00:23:49,145
Sometimes I think people lead each other Astra

640
00:23:49,145 --> 00:23:51,047
because there can be differences of opinion on

641
00:23:51,047 --> 00:23:52,394
what is good and what is bad. That's

642
00:23:52,394 --> 00:23:53,186
a very objective thing.

643
00:23:54,231 --> 00:23:55,737
What kind of dog you like, what kind

644
00:23:55,737 --> 00:23:57,243
of dog you don't like? That's their objective

645
00:23:57,243 --> 00:24:00,571
thing. But also, people are financially incentivized because

646
00:24:00,571 --> 00:24:02,975
they're breeding particular things. They're interested in particular

647
00:24:02,975 --> 00:24:04,650
other things. They have particular outcomes with these

648
00:24:04,650 --> 00:24:07,441
dogs. And they're emotional. Yeah. Of course. So

649
00:24:07,441 --> 00:24:09,116
step 1 is that we're paying all these

650
00:24:09,116 --> 00:24:11,842
people for their information. Right? You are financially

651
00:24:11,842 --> 00:24:14,071
incentivized to be successful in this... You're contributing

652
00:24:14,071 --> 00:24:16,936
to this. You're not financially incentivized to, like,

653
00:24:17,096 --> 00:24:19,660
get your particular blood line going. Right? You

654
00:24:19,660 --> 00:24:21,660
are incentivized about because we're gonna buy this

655
00:24:21,660 --> 00:24:23,340
knowledge from you. We're not expecting to get

656
00:24:23,340 --> 00:24:24,779
this from you for free. How do you

657
00:24:24,779 --> 00:24:26,960
think people are gonna feel about that knowing

658
00:24:27,180 --> 00:24:30,216
that as a proposal of this, primarily what

659
00:24:30,216 --> 00:24:32,203
you're saying is I'm removing you from the

660
00:24:32,203 --> 00:24:34,189
capability. In what way am I removing it

661
00:24:34,189 --> 00:24:36,906
from capability? If you're saying I wanna import

662
00:24:36,906 --> 00:24:38,814
another blood line into the country or I

663
00:24:38,814 --> 00:24:41,358
wanna import a superior blood line, which isn't

664
00:24:41,358 --> 00:24:43,107
your blood line. Mh. How do you think

665
00:24:43,107 --> 00:24:45,035
they're going to feel about all I'm playing

666
00:24:45,035 --> 00:24:47,515
is the devil's advocate in this because I've

667
00:24:47,515 --> 00:24:50,154
spent plenty of time having late into the

668
00:24:50,154 --> 00:24:52,315
night conversations with people about blood lines and

669
00:24:52,315 --> 00:24:53,089
genetics and

670
00:24:53,689 --> 00:24:56,486
understanding their pride ego and emotions that are

671
00:24:56,486 --> 00:24:59,123
involved in their own kennel. Mh. Where some

672
00:24:59,123 --> 00:25:00,961
people are dead on. They know exactly what

673
00:25:00,961 --> 00:25:03,292
they're producing, and they do. Proof is in

674
00:25:03,292 --> 00:25:05,204
the pudding, and some people are dead wrong,

675
00:25:05,682 --> 00:25:07,674
where their dogs couldn't pull the skin off

676
00:25:07,674 --> 00:25:09,507
a custard. Yeah. That's why we'll have a

677
00:25:09,507 --> 00:25:11,817
committee of people that then, like, the people

678
00:25:11,817 --> 00:25:12,317
who

679
00:25:13,190 --> 00:25:15,670
in any way obstruction is. Yeah. And of

680
00:25:15,670 --> 00:25:18,150
not, of course, like, there should be heated

681
00:25:18,150 --> 00:25:20,150
debates. There should be differences of opinion. Yep.

682
00:25:20,404 --> 00:25:23,028
But if anybody seem to be obstruction, then

683
00:25:23,028 --> 00:25:24,938
we remove them, and they fall by the

684
00:25:24,938 --> 00:25:26,767
wayside. Right? Right? Like they continue doing what

685
00:25:26,767 --> 00:25:27,960
they're doing, but they're not a part of

686
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:28,278
this project.

687
00:25:29,247 --> 00:25:30,675
Why they should wanna be a part of

688
00:25:30,675 --> 00:25:32,976
the project despite potentially already being a dog

689
00:25:32,976 --> 00:25:34,960
breeder in Australia or whatever is because first

690
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,555
of all, they have opportunities to be involved

691
00:25:37,594 --> 00:25:38,785
to the ground level of this as it

692
00:25:38,785 --> 00:25:40,397
grows. But second

693
00:25:41,247 --> 00:25:43,653
is that this running and

694
00:25:44,026 --> 00:25:47,009
being a thing that could potentially

695
00:25:47,470 --> 00:25:49,470
take away from their ability to sell dogs

696
00:25:49,470 --> 00:25:51,549
in a short to medium term doesn't exist,

697
00:25:51,789 --> 00:25:53,721
then that will become apparent soon. Right? So

698
00:25:53,721 --> 00:25:54,912
we're not selling any of these dogs for

699
00:25:54,912 --> 00:25:57,240
a long time. I kind of establish this

700
00:25:57,296 --> 00:25:59,679
idea, it seemed like I had a financial

701
00:25:59,679 --> 00:26:01,188
background. Now Won't go into the details of

702
00:26:01,188 --> 00:26:02,634
all that. But it turned out not to

703
00:26:02,634 --> 00:26:04,384
be the case. But I'd said to the

704
00:26:04,384 --> 00:26:05,737
person at the time, like, this is not

705
00:26:05,737 --> 00:26:08,066
a profitable business. You have to know that

706
00:26:08,362 --> 00:26:10,370
and I was given the, like, well, I'm

707
00:26:10,370 --> 00:26:11,726
not interested I wanna do it. I have

708
00:26:11,726 --> 00:26:13,720
plenty of money. Money is not an issue

709
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:15,394
for me. It's that I wanna be involved

710
00:26:15,394 --> 00:26:16,511
in it. And so I was like, okay.

711
00:26:16,671 --> 00:26:17,787
Cool. As long as you're aware that we

712
00:26:17,787 --> 00:26:19,793
ain't making any money. And that's why I

713
00:26:19,793 --> 00:26:22,257
think that this is not viable in Australia

714
00:26:22,257 --> 00:26:24,744
to do as private industry. If there's

715
00:26:25,198 --> 00:26:27,186
some level of intention of seeing a return

716
00:26:27,186 --> 00:26:27,742
on your money,

717
00:26:28,393 --> 00:26:30,058
from an investor that said they were, like,

718
00:26:30,217 --> 00:26:31,407
if someone called me and said, pat I'm

719
00:26:31,407 --> 00:26:32,597
in, Give you the money, but this is

720
00:26:32,597 --> 00:26:33,787
how I wanna see a return. I'm like,

721
00:26:33,866 --> 00:26:35,532
no. There will be no return. We are

722
00:26:35,532 --> 00:26:38,112
losing money on this. So primarily what you're

723
00:26:38,328 --> 00:26:41,033
suggesting if I'm correct, thinking along the bouncing

724
00:26:41,033 --> 00:26:43,362
ball is that you

725
00:26:43,674 --> 00:26:45,432
feel that there should be government funded and

726
00:26:45,432 --> 00:26:47,270
in wages paid by the government. Yeah Yeah.

727
00:26:47,430 --> 00:26:49,428
I can or... If it's not government funded,

728
00:26:49,748 --> 00:26:52,225
then it's a private back. Yep. It doesn't

729
00:26:52,225 --> 00:26:54,388
want the return. Right? I know that that

730
00:26:54,388 --> 00:26:56,291
seems like a weird thing to say, but

731
00:26:56,291 --> 00:26:58,432
that shit happens, man. That that's for real.

732
00:26:58,591 --> 00:27:00,994
Look, I I understand there's consultants and there's

733
00:27:01,223 --> 00:27:03,604
shakes out there who do fun things like

734
00:27:03,604 --> 00:27:05,271
this. And not just that here's an example,

735
00:27:05,668 --> 00:27:07,732
when I was at the college that I

736
00:27:07,732 --> 00:27:09,478
attended first semester in the Us.

737
00:27:10,209 --> 00:27:12,442
1 of the astrophysicist was talking about a

738
00:27:12,442 --> 00:27:14,298
thing that she was on the verge of,

739
00:27:14,516 --> 00:27:16,749
you know, discovering I suppose, but was gonna

740
00:27:16,749 --> 00:27:18,823
take a huge amount of money, and mostly

741
00:27:18,823 --> 00:27:21,232
that money was in telescope time because there

742
00:27:21,232 --> 00:27:23,148
was only a couple of different telescopes. I

743
00:27:23,148 --> 00:27:24,265
think there's 2 on the planet that could

744
00:27:24,265 --> 00:27:25,383
do what you want to do. And you

745
00:27:25,383 --> 00:27:26,580
have to bid for the time of users

746
00:27:26,580 --> 00:27:27,937
because everybody wants to use them at the

747
00:27:27,937 --> 00:27:29,865
times when they'll see the the capable saying

748
00:27:29,865 --> 00:27:31,928
the things. And said that, you know, like,

749
00:27:32,166 --> 00:27:33,515
it cost a hundred and 50000000 dollars to

750
00:27:33,515 --> 00:27:34,388
do what I want, and they guy I

751
00:27:34,388 --> 00:27:35,182
wrote to a check on the spot.

752
00:27:35,896 --> 00:27:37,642
And so these things happen.

753
00:27:38,134 --> 00:27:40,611
With no hawk. Nah. You achieve that goal.

754
00:27:41,091 --> 00:27:44,127
Because when she achieves what she's trying to

755
00:27:44,127 --> 00:27:44,447
achieve,

756
00:27:45,086 --> 00:27:47,257
I remember her name, And I think that

757
00:27:47,257 --> 00:27:49,172
she's actually done it, but no 1 else

758
00:27:49,172 --> 00:27:51,167
will because it was done by the yale

759
00:27:51,167 --> 00:27:54,095
astro department. But I'm a suspicious motherfucker of

760
00:27:54,294 --> 00:27:56,470
people because I just know that

761
00:27:56,848 --> 00:27:58,764
most people follow the narrative of with him.

762
00:27:58,924 --> 00:28:00,201
What's in it for me? Yeah. And for

763
00:28:00,201 --> 00:28:01,318
sure. But there is a return for them,

764
00:28:01,478 --> 00:28:02,970
but the return to that guy and that

765
00:28:03,248 --> 00:28:04,860
instance was that Yale

766
00:28:05,473 --> 00:28:07,619
will make the discovery. Was his money or

767
00:28:07,778 --> 00:28:09,606
Yale money? It's his money that he donated

768
00:28:09,606 --> 00:28:11,852
to yale in order to have the discovery

769
00:28:11,852 --> 00:28:14,267
made by Yale, and then the Yale brand

770
00:28:14,406 --> 00:28:16,401
that he's got a giant company that only

771
00:28:16,401 --> 00:28:20,188
employs Yale. Yep. Right? The stock of yale

772
00:28:20,485 --> 00:28:20,803
increases.

773
00:28:21,361 --> 00:28:23,194
Right. So. So he gets a funnel out.

774
00:28:23,433 --> 00:28:25,425
Yeah. Well no. So he's company that's full

775
00:28:25,425 --> 00:28:26,563
of yale employees

776
00:28:27,034 --> 00:28:29,427
is first pick. Not the same there's something.

777
00:28:29,666 --> 00:28:31,899
Give it the whole brand of the Yale

778
00:28:31,899 --> 00:28:33,835
brand, Yeah would have increased

779
00:28:34,212 --> 00:28:36,286
because they will be the discover of the

780
00:28:36,286 --> 00:28:38,768
thing. And so to him, giving them the

781
00:28:38,768 --> 00:28:41,075
opportunity to make a groundbreaking discovery that will

782
00:28:41,075 --> 00:28:42,984
be attributed to the university that he went

783
00:28:42,984 --> 00:28:45,884
to and their he only employs people from

784
00:28:45,940 --> 00:28:47,768
is worth his while to spend that hundred

785
00:28:47,768 --> 00:28:49,356
and 50000000 dollars. And you know that for

786
00:28:49,356 --> 00:28:51,581
fact. This is just my suspicion. I'm just...

787
00:28:51,820 --> 00:28:52,788
I don't I don't know that for fact.

788
00:28:52,947 --> 00:28:54,538
Yeah... I'm not trying to poke holes in

789
00:28:54,538 --> 00:28:55,811
your story. What do you mean do I

790
00:28:55,811 --> 00:28:57,322
know that for fact? I'm telling the story

791
00:28:57,322 --> 00:28:59,572
that she told me. My reason for asking

792
00:28:59,724 --> 00:29:01,562
is, like I said before, I'm suspicious of

793
00:29:01,562 --> 00:29:03,240
people's generosity. Of course, it has to be

794
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,158
something in it for them. Yeah. It's maybe

795
00:29:05,158 --> 00:29:06,437
that what's in it for them is that

796
00:29:06,437 --> 00:29:09,088
there's the achieving of a particular. Okay. But

797
00:29:09,088 --> 00:29:11,076
that happens all the time. Right? Yeah. So

798
00:29:11,235 --> 00:29:12,825
I'm not expecting my phone to ring after

799
00:29:12,825 --> 00:29:15,052
this. But what I'm saying is, this is

800
00:29:15,052 --> 00:29:17,517
not as ridiculous as people think. This kind

801
00:29:17,517 --> 00:29:19,365
shit happens all the time. You know that

802
00:29:19,365 --> 00:29:20,964
there was a... I can't remember the guy's

803
00:29:20,964 --> 00:29:22,805
name. Should have been better prepared. I didn't

804
00:29:22,805 --> 00:29:24,484
know we're gonna discuss this, but there was

805
00:29:24,484 --> 00:29:26,644
a an astronaut. I can't remember fucking name.

806
00:29:27,059 --> 00:29:28,660
That 1 of the telescope in space that

807
00:29:28,660 --> 00:29:30,900
will identify a media that's gonna hit us.

808
00:29:31,380 --> 00:29:33,480
And he gave a speech at Google

809
00:29:33,779 --> 00:29:34,234
and

810
00:29:34,754 --> 00:29:36,431
the James webb tells us. No. It's a

811
00:29:36,431 --> 00:29:38,349
different 1. But he gave a speech at

812
00:29:38,508 --> 00:29:40,665
Google saying that we really don't have very

813
00:29:40,665 --> 00:29:42,838
good defense. Against knowing whether we're gonna get

814
00:29:42,838 --> 00:29:44,196
hit by an asteroid or a comment or

815
00:29:44,196 --> 00:29:46,674
whatever. Yep. Because there's so much space that

816
00:29:46,674 --> 00:29:49,311
we're not covering, and we're overdue for a

817
00:29:49,311 --> 00:29:51,642
a big impact. And so, you know, he

818
00:29:51,642 --> 00:29:54,676
gave this very, a suppose pessimistic speech about

819
00:29:54,676 --> 00:29:56,831
how we're not doing the things. And Nasa

820
00:29:56,831 --> 00:29:58,428
doesn't have funding for it to get that

821
00:29:58,428 --> 00:30:00,079
because they're more into exploration not

822
00:30:00,679 --> 00:30:03,556
observation, and it would probably only cost half

823
00:30:03,556 --> 00:30:06,033
a billion dollars. And a guy that he

824
00:30:06,033 --> 00:30:07,152
gave the speech to a Google How after

825
00:30:07,232 --> 00:30:08,271
He said, mate, we can raise half a

826
00:30:08,271 --> 00:30:10,121
billion dollars in no fucking time. There's people

827
00:30:10,121 --> 00:30:11,551
that will donate know to this. Right? Like,

828
00:30:11,710 --> 00:30:13,538
we can easily do this and they did

829
00:30:13,538 --> 00:30:15,445
within a couple of weeks of knowing the

830
00:30:15,445 --> 00:30:17,670
right people to call to say, like, hey,

831
00:30:17,750 --> 00:30:19,436
we wanna do this. Yeah. There's money in

832
00:30:19,436 --> 00:30:21,189
startups and... Can't go together with this. But

833
00:30:21,189 --> 00:30:22,863
the point is it's not a ridiculous thing.

834
00:30:23,022 --> 00:30:25,413
Cool. Okay. So we get point. Establish these

835
00:30:25,413 --> 00:30:27,817
working groups. Where we're gonna establish a blood

836
00:30:27,817 --> 00:30:30,124
lines. We're gonna identify the locations. Yep. So

837
00:30:30,124 --> 00:30:32,273
in Australia, we've got, like, 7 states. I

838
00:30:32,273 --> 00:30:33,944
wanna put a location in each 1. This

839
00:30:33,944 --> 00:30:36,188
is get the biggest cost. Alright? Is that

840
00:30:36,268 --> 00:30:39,217
I wanna identify the locations where these places

841
00:30:39,217 --> 00:30:41,130
will be and build the facilities. Yep. And

842
00:30:41,130 --> 00:30:43,602
if facilities will need to be super high

843
00:30:43,602 --> 00:30:44,102
end

844
00:30:44,572 --> 00:30:47,354
working dog facilities. I'm talking triple stage kennel.

845
00:30:47,593 --> 00:30:49,818
Yep. Training facilities, training grounds,

846
00:30:50,295 --> 00:30:51,805
offices, working places,

847
00:30:52,441 --> 00:30:53,156
education spaces,

848
00:30:53,569 --> 00:30:55,246
So this is the biggest cost. Without without

849
00:30:55,246 --> 00:30:57,800
a doubt biggest cost. Yeah. Blend and and

850
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,834
bricks and mortar yeah expensive. Again, why if

851
00:31:00,834 --> 00:31:02,670
it were funded by government, It's not a

852
00:31:02,670 --> 00:31:04,365
cost at all. Yep. Right. Because now we're

853
00:31:04,365 --> 00:31:06,125
employing people to do these things. It's just

854
00:31:06,125 --> 00:31:07,965
creating ones and zeros that go into the

855
00:31:07,965 --> 00:31:11,005
economy. We're employing companies. We're employing workers. There's

856
00:31:11,005 --> 00:31:13,595
people there that are create, like, the infrastructure

857
00:31:14,052 --> 00:31:16,523
build out is just creating jobs within the

858
00:31:16,523 --> 00:31:18,038
country. And it goes back to our states

859
00:31:18,038 --> 00:31:20,270
and territory and national defense as well. Exactly.

860
00:31:20,604 --> 00:31:24,351
So we start establishing locations. We start building

861
00:31:24,351 --> 00:31:26,583
committees of people who can run the building

862
00:31:26,583 --> 00:31:28,758
out of that. People like you who are

863
00:31:28,816 --> 00:31:30,895
experts in the way a ken should run.

864
00:31:31,212 --> 00:31:33,195
And instead of trying to reinvent the wheel.

865
00:31:33,513 --> 00:31:35,179
Like, I don't need to go to all

866
00:31:35,179 --> 00:31:37,825
the conventions where they show where all of

867
00:31:37,825 --> 00:31:40,144
the the latest and greatest in internal layouts

868
00:31:40,144 --> 00:31:41,904
are... Because you've done that shit. Right? So

869
00:31:42,065 --> 00:31:44,000
I can buy that information from you. And

870
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,320
so I can have working groups within Australia,

871
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:47,839
I can bring in people from around the

872
00:31:47,839 --> 00:31:49,279
world because I can pay them because I've

873
00:31:49,279 --> 00:31:50,480
got the money to do this, and we

874
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,559
start identifying how we're gonna build these things

875
00:31:52,559 --> 00:31:54,494
properly. Right? Because these need to be done

876
00:31:54,494 --> 00:31:54,815
properly.

877
00:31:55,295 --> 00:31:56,674
And then we have

878
00:31:57,375 --> 00:32:00,015
statisticians and logistics people that go over and

879
00:32:00,015 --> 00:32:02,255
help me flesh out this entire plan to

880
00:32:02,255 --> 00:32:04,346
be more like, cross all the t's and

881
00:32:04,346 --> 00:32:05,783
dot all the i's. Right? So this is

882
00:32:05,783 --> 00:32:07,300
a bigger picture thing, but we need to

883
00:32:07,300 --> 00:32:10,274
then get more into the weeds on deliverables

884
00:32:10,413 --> 00:32:12,104
at what time we're gonna hit, like, what

885
00:32:12,104 --> 00:32:13,700
are our Kpis where are we gonna hit

886
00:32:13,700 --> 00:32:15,456
them? How are we're gonna hit them? How

887
00:32:15,456 --> 00:32:17,132
are we gonna measure our success against our

888
00:32:17,132 --> 00:32:18,409
failure? That kind of stuff. We need to

889
00:32:18,409 --> 00:32:19,526
figure all that out. Okay?

890
00:32:20,819 --> 00:32:22,577
Straightaway away, we can start going in blind

891
00:32:22,577 --> 00:32:24,815
dogs. Mh. So we identify the kind of

892
00:32:24,815 --> 00:32:26,093
blood lines that we wanna get, and we

893
00:32:26,093 --> 00:32:27,612
want what we wanna do is bring in

894
00:32:27,612 --> 00:32:30,501
a variety of different blood lines. So it's

895
00:32:30,501 --> 00:32:32,889
not that we want 1 particular that we're

896
00:32:32,889 --> 00:32:34,323
going hard in the pain after a particular

897
00:32:34,323 --> 00:32:36,552
thing. We're, you identify a bunch of different

898
00:32:36,552 --> 00:32:38,119
ones. Now how many I don't know yet

899
00:32:38,239 --> 00:32:39,671
and where they're all gonna come from. I

900
00:32:39,671 --> 00:32:41,502
don't know yet. But what that looks like

901
00:32:41,502 --> 00:32:43,094
is we're gonna have to pay. Right? So

902
00:32:43,094 --> 00:32:45,640
whether we're importing the dogs from overseas or

903
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:47,391
we're buying them here, proven lines.

904
00:32:48,123 --> 00:32:50,755
Mostly what we want is to mitigate how

905
00:32:50,755 --> 00:32:54,844
much risk we're taking and buy proven lines

906
00:32:55,061 --> 00:32:56,997
from bitches who have

907
00:32:57,548 --> 00:32:59,379
produced. Yeah. Because those are the kind of

908
00:32:59,379 --> 00:33:00,813
dogs that people don't part with. Right? So,

909
00:33:00,892 --> 00:33:02,326
like, the the answer when people say to

910
00:33:02,326 --> 00:33:03,759
me, you know, like, because lots of people

911
00:33:03,759 --> 00:33:04,715
have said to me I want wanna import

912
00:33:04,715 --> 00:33:06,243
a dog, you know, like, to get a

913
00:33:06,243 --> 00:33:07,437
blood line start breeding whatever.

914
00:33:08,153 --> 00:33:10,542
And like you can't really do it because

915
00:33:10,542 --> 00:33:12,373
for us to import a dog as a

916
00:33:12,373 --> 00:33:13,487
puppy, you gotta buy that dog as a

917
00:33:13,487 --> 00:33:13,726
puppy.

918
00:33:14,298 --> 00:33:16,288
And that's the only way that you can

919
00:33:16,288 --> 00:33:17,880
guarantee you're gonna be able to buy the

920
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,347
door. You buy new. Right? First hand.

921
00:33:21,144 --> 00:33:22,894
Then it's 10 months old before It can

922
00:33:22,894 --> 00:33:24,980
come into the country. You don't know whether

923
00:33:24,980 --> 00:33:26,970
it's gonna pan out. You might have bought

924
00:33:26,970 --> 00:33:29,040
the right massive risk. There's huge amount of

925
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:30,712
massive risk. Right? Mh. So I don't wanna

926
00:33:30,712 --> 00:33:31,986
take those risk. I wanna hit the ground

927
00:33:31,986 --> 00:33:34,480
running. Wanna identify. I wanna go to somewhere

928
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,240
and be like, hey. Can't help but notice

929
00:33:36,319 --> 00:33:38,960
You've repeated the same mating twice. Mh. Everybody's

930
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,774
happy with the puppies. We'd like to... If

931
00:33:41,774 --> 00:33:44,174
not buy an entire litter of your dogs,

932
00:33:44,575 --> 00:33:46,174
we wanna buy that bitch, and we wanna

933
00:33:46,174 --> 00:33:47,774
bring her out to Australia, and we're gonna

934
00:33:47,774 --> 00:33:49,464
start breeding from her here. And we're going

935
00:33:49,464 --> 00:33:51,446
to buy also semen from you because we

936
00:33:51,446 --> 00:33:52,794
wanna pick up the blood line and bring

937
00:33:52,794 --> 00:33:54,642
it over. We don't want some, like hodgepodge

938
00:33:55,015 --> 00:33:57,494
disaster of out cross. We wanna pick up

939
00:33:57,494 --> 00:33:58,934
what you have and bring it here. Mh.

940
00:33:59,174 --> 00:34:01,095
Now that's gonna cost. Right? People cost it's

941
00:34:01,095 --> 00:34:02,775
gonna cost. Yep. No worries. We've got we've

942
00:34:02,775 --> 00:34:03,815
got 30000000. Yep.

943
00:34:05,027 --> 00:34:07,097
I mean, in all already, there's millions into

944
00:34:07,097 --> 00:34:09,007
dogs just in dogs and semen in that.

945
00:34:09,246 --> 00:34:12,191
Yep. Probably a million. Oh, roughly. But anyway,

946
00:34:12,350 --> 00:34:14,181
it depends on lots of 2 to 3.

947
00:34:14,514 --> 00:34:15,791
Well, it depends on how many we're bringing

948
00:34:15,791 --> 00:34:18,106
in depends on Yeah. Like great stuff. Are

949
00:34:18,106 --> 00:34:20,181
we talking... Are we limiting this to Biting

950
00:34:20,181 --> 00:34:21,777
dogs? Are we talking detection dogs as well.

951
00:34:22,096 --> 00:34:24,827
I think that my primary focus is on

952
00:34:24,827 --> 00:34:26,504
the biting dogs because that's where our biggest

953
00:34:26,504 --> 00:34:28,102
problem is. I think that in Australia, we

954
00:34:28,102 --> 00:34:31,227
have some really good action dogs and reliably,

955
00:34:31,465 --> 00:34:33,375
people are reliably breeding the kind of dog.

956
00:34:33,534 --> 00:34:35,046
But now They are, But it's where people

957
00:34:35,046 --> 00:34:38,239
are finding them. Because there's, like, there's plenty

958
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,222
of good gun dogs being bread. Right? That

959
00:34:40,222 --> 00:34:42,363
are totally suitable as detection dogs. It's where

960
00:34:42,363 --> 00:34:43,711
the people are putting their hands on them.

961
00:34:43,949 --> 00:34:46,113
But I don't know that we need to

962
00:34:46,113 --> 00:34:47,791
import. I don't know. Right? So this is

963
00:34:47,791 --> 00:34:49,389
the thing. Like, I don't know that we

964
00:34:49,389 --> 00:34:51,465
need to. The reason I'm asking this is

965
00:34:51,465 --> 00:34:52,996
like you're setting this up as a national

966
00:34:52,996 --> 00:34:55,941
standard. Mh. Which already addresses... If you're looking

967
00:34:55,941 --> 00:34:57,612
at it from a welfare and an ethics

968
00:34:57,612 --> 00:34:59,522
point of view, it already addresses a national

969
00:34:59,522 --> 00:35:01,363
standard. So then they can come along and

970
00:35:01,363 --> 00:35:04,139
saying, well, I'm concerned about how the female

971
00:35:04,139 --> 00:35:06,280
will be looked after in well. I'm concerned

972
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:07,628
with how the puppies are gonna be raised.

973
00:35:08,119 --> 00:35:09,888
It's already addressed. Your model

974
00:35:10,260 --> 00:35:12,481
should already put it into place, and you'll

975
00:35:12,481 --> 00:35:14,861
employ someone as an ethics controller, Mh. Or

976
00:35:14,861 --> 00:35:17,103
in ethics manager who basically... Whether there'll be

977
00:35:17,103 --> 00:35:20,046
a hr department. Exactly. Somebody who addresses all

978
00:35:20,046 --> 00:35:21,796
the roles and concerns and puts it into

979
00:35:21,796 --> 00:35:24,201
place so what their job is to introduce

980
00:35:24,201 --> 00:35:26,749
best practices along the way. We're getting to

981
00:35:26,749 --> 00:35:28,422
that. So the first thing that we're doing

982
00:35:28,422 --> 00:35:30,015
is we're importing these dogs. Right? And we're

983
00:35:30,015 --> 00:35:32,257
establishing by lines. Now that a 12 month

984
00:35:32,257 --> 00:35:34,320
project at the minimum. Right? Because even if

985
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:35,987
suddenly, the the ones and bureaus appeared in

986
00:35:35,987 --> 00:35:37,654
my bank account today. We still have to

987
00:35:37,654 --> 00:35:38,924
go through all the quarantine and everything. There's

988
00:35:38,924 --> 00:35:40,926
no way around that. Right? Yep. Now there

989
00:35:40,926 --> 00:35:42,757
might you wanna be building. You want infrastructure

990
00:35:42,757 --> 00:35:44,588
to happen Right away happening. Straight away. So

991
00:35:44,588 --> 00:35:46,340
this is all concurrent. We've got the building

992
00:35:46,340 --> 00:35:49,064
of the facilities happening within Australia. Yep. And

993
00:35:49,064 --> 00:35:51,301
then we've got people out buying the dogs

994
00:35:51,301 --> 00:35:52,819
and we've got the dog quarantine. You right?

995
00:35:53,619 --> 00:35:57,148
We potentially have people who are overseas if

996
00:35:57,148 --> 00:35:59,216
we don't have trusted partners where we have

997
00:35:59,216 --> 00:36:01,523
those dogs, we potentially have people in those

998
00:36:01,523 --> 00:36:03,853
places raising adults. We can c

999
00:36:04,324 --> 00:36:05,999
locate all the dogs from around the world

1000
00:36:05,999 --> 00:36:07,755
mostly to 1 place and they can all

1001
00:36:07,755 --> 00:36:09,909
do their quarantine time in 1 particular place

1002
00:36:09,909 --> 00:36:11,186
before they all come out together so we

1003
00:36:11,186 --> 00:36:12,876
can put staff in 1 particular place to

1004
00:36:12,876 --> 00:36:14,632
look after a bunch of dogs. Yeah. So

1005
00:36:14,632 --> 00:36:16,467
we're bringing those dogs into Australia. We've building

1006
00:36:16,467 --> 00:36:18,463
the facilities as per the spec of what

1007
00:36:18,463 --> 00:36:20,711
we've decided to do. The next thing that

1008
00:36:20,711 --> 00:36:22,167
we start doing is

1009
00:36:22,544 --> 00:36:25,333
identifying and training the staff who are gonna

1010
00:36:25,333 --> 00:36:27,246
be dealing with all of this when they

1011
00:36:27,246 --> 00:36:29,250
arrive. Yep. So our initial pool of staff

1012
00:36:29,250 --> 00:36:31,159
are gonna be people that you and I

1013
00:36:31,159 --> 00:36:33,704
know. Right? From within the space that we

1014
00:36:33,704 --> 00:36:36,144
know have the skill set to immediately start

1015
00:36:36,424 --> 00:36:38,581
making good. Alright? Yep. And we're gonna pay

1016
00:36:38,581 --> 00:36:40,579
them enough that it's worth their while to

1017
00:36:40,579 --> 00:36:42,417
do. Yeah right? The thing is with all

1018
00:36:42,417 --> 00:36:44,415
of this, we're not expecting any but... Like,

1019
00:36:44,909 --> 00:36:46,267
1 of the reasons why I think so

1020
00:36:46,267 --> 00:36:49,004
many of the grand plans that people have

1021
00:36:49,063 --> 00:36:51,061
in training people and developing blood lines on

1022
00:36:51,061 --> 00:36:52,515
this kind of shit. It doesn't work out

1023
00:36:52,515 --> 00:36:53,875
it's because people have to feed their family.

1024
00:36:54,034 --> 00:36:55,715
At the end of the day, people have

1025
00:36:55,715 --> 00:36:58,355
to make enough money to sustain themselves. Absolutely.

1026
00:36:58,594 --> 00:37:00,841
They need to be paid adequately for the

1027
00:37:00,841 --> 00:37:02,671
job that they've been pulled away or head

1028
00:37:02,671 --> 00:37:04,262
hunted for. That's right. And so, you know,

1029
00:37:04,501 --> 00:37:06,744
breeding dogs is a terrible business model You

1030
00:37:06,744 --> 00:37:08,744
know, unless you're just puppy farming shit dogs,

1031
00:37:08,905 --> 00:37:10,505
then you can make a fortune. But if

1032
00:37:10,505 --> 00:37:13,704
you're looking to produce something special, that doesn't

1033
00:37:13,704 --> 00:37:15,558
happen easily you know, and you can lose

1034
00:37:15,558 --> 00:37:17,796
a whole litter. You can have mating not

1035
00:37:17,796 --> 00:37:19,793
take. Like, there's lots of different ways that

1036
00:37:19,793 --> 00:37:21,951
things can go wrong. So now I need

1037
00:37:21,951 --> 00:37:24,204
poke a question at you. Mh And hopefully,

1038
00:37:24,364 --> 00:37:25,644
you've had time to think about this.

1039
00:37:26,284 --> 00:37:27,965
Because this will be a question because it

1040
00:37:27,965 --> 00:37:29,484
comes up in greyhound, it comes up in

1041
00:37:29,484 --> 00:37:31,336
a lot of these circles. We're gonna get

1042
00:37:31,336 --> 00:37:32,926
to the excess dogs. We're gonna get to

1043
00:37:32,926 --> 00:37:34,198
what happens with the dogs that don't pan

1044
00:37:34,198 --> 00:37:36,742
out. Great. There's a whole plan on that.

1045
00:37:36,981 --> 00:37:38,651
Okay. But so I'm glad you thought that

1046
00:37:38,651 --> 00:37:40,739
through because that's where they pull the pin

1047
00:37:40,739 --> 00:37:42,972
on this grenade. Yep. Yeah. So right now,

1048
00:37:43,132 --> 00:37:44,807
all we've done is establish what blood lines

1049
00:37:44,807 --> 00:37:46,322
we wanna get. Yep. We've go and bought

1050
00:37:46,322 --> 00:37:47,997
those dogs and those dogs during quarantine. Okay.

1051
00:37:48,236 --> 00:37:49,687
We've also bought of the dogs that are

1052
00:37:49,687 --> 00:37:51,282
within Australia, and we've got those dogs in

1053
00:37:51,282 --> 00:37:53,356
facilities we're ready to go. Yep. We are

1054
00:37:53,356 --> 00:37:55,829
building out the facilities. And whether we're putting

1055
00:37:55,829 --> 00:37:57,504
1 in every state or just in key

1056
00:37:57,504 --> 00:37:59,755
states. I'm not sure. But but we are

1057
00:37:59,755 --> 00:38:02,655
building those facilities, and they are gonna be

1058
00:38:02,714 --> 00:38:05,355
not identical, but they're gonna be very similar.

1059
00:38:05,514 --> 00:38:07,114
Right? Like, there isn't gonna be a 1

1060
00:38:07,114 --> 00:38:08,887
that's better than the others. That they're all

1061
00:38:08,887 --> 00:38:10,402
gonna be capable of doing the same shit.

1062
00:38:10,562 --> 00:38:12,157
They're gonna be the same size. Roughly, they're

1063
00:38:12,157 --> 00:38:13,912
all capable of doing the same shit. Even

1064
00:38:13,912 --> 00:38:16,544
though later, they're gonna service different markets. But

1065
00:38:16,544 --> 00:38:18,394
the point is we're moving these things things

1066
00:38:18,394 --> 00:38:20,072
around so that we're not putting all of

1067
00:38:20,072 --> 00:38:21,989
eggs in 1 basket. Would you be open

1068
00:38:21,989 --> 00:38:24,866
to crowdfunding funding? Yeah. For sure. If people

1069
00:38:24,866 --> 00:38:25,685
wanted to

1070
00:38:26,319 --> 00:38:27,837
put in the money? I'm open at all

1071
00:38:27,837 --> 00:38:29,515
kinds of funding. If you're looking at this

1072
00:38:29,515 --> 00:38:32,231
as a project and something that's sustainable and

1073
00:38:32,231 --> 00:38:33,270
it warrants growth,

1074
00:38:33,844 --> 00:38:35,912
and you could attract, you know, the contracts

1075
00:38:35,912 --> 00:38:39,516
from state territory and federal governments to primarily

1076
00:38:39,732 --> 00:38:41,739
fix the hole in the bucket. Who cares

1077
00:38:41,739 --> 00:38:43,577
where the finances is. No. Exactly. The main

1078
00:38:43,577 --> 00:38:46,134
thing is as long as the decision making

1079
00:38:46,134 --> 00:38:47,732
person, who I'm referring to as myself, but,

1080
00:38:47,812 --> 00:38:49,250
like I'm saying, it could be many people,

1081
00:38:49,330 --> 00:38:51,025
it doesn't have to be. Would you outsource

1082
00:38:51,025 --> 00:38:52,545
it if you've come up with this and

1083
00:38:52,545 --> 00:38:54,545
you've drafted it. Well because maybe I don't

1084
00:38:54,545 --> 00:38:55,505
wanna do. But this is a lot of

1085
00:38:55,505 --> 00:38:55,664
work.

1086
00:38:56,704 --> 00:38:57,744
It is. It is a lot of work.

1087
00:38:57,984 --> 00:39:01,597
But it's something that would sustain... Yeah. Jokes

1088
00:39:01,597 --> 00:39:04,074
aside. If somebody said, hey, I have the

1089
00:39:04,074 --> 00:39:05,432
money to do this. You can do it.

1090
00:39:05,672 --> 00:39:07,590
I would do it. But again, this is

1091
00:39:07,590 --> 00:39:10,085
part of it. My business would die. I'm

1092
00:39:10,085 --> 00:39:11,525
happy to do that because I do my

1093
00:39:11,525 --> 00:39:14,005
business in order to achieve. Like, I will

1094
00:39:14,005 --> 00:39:15,844
achieve more of what I'm trying to achieve

1095
00:39:15,844 --> 00:39:17,179
in my life. But this is a level

1096
00:39:17,299 --> 00:39:18,815
Yeah. That's right. But the pay would have...

1097
00:39:18,974 --> 00:39:19,931
Like, this is a this a big part

1098
00:39:19,931 --> 00:39:21,128
of it but we gotta pay people well.

1099
00:39:21,686 --> 00:39:24,020
Because if I'm gonna put my whole business

1100
00:39:24,079 --> 00:39:25,913
off, I would basically have to shut down

1101
00:39:25,913 --> 00:39:27,997
everything I do. Yep. And to do this.

1102
00:39:28,235 --> 00:39:29,900
I need to be compensated for that. A

1103
00:39:29,900 --> 00:39:32,304
hundred percent so don't disagree. But so does

1104
00:39:32,438 --> 00:39:34,103
everybody at every stage in this. So we're

1105
00:39:34,103 --> 00:39:36,347
paying people well throughout this whole thing. In

1106
00:39:36,347 --> 00:39:37,624
order to make sure that we attract the

1107
00:39:37,624 --> 00:39:39,380
right people. And they wanna stay. That's the

1108
00:39:39,380 --> 00:39:40,977
main thing. Yeah. It is that not only

1109
00:39:40,977 --> 00:39:42,255
do we need the right people to be

1110
00:39:42,255 --> 00:39:44,090
want the job, but we need people to

1111
00:39:44,090 --> 00:39:46,585
wanna keep their job and continue to be

1112
00:39:46,585 --> 00:39:48,265
team players in the development of this. Right?

1113
00:39:48,505 --> 00:39:50,025
Because we're paying them so much that they

1114
00:39:50,025 --> 00:39:52,505
couldn't make that money anywhere else. Yep. So

1115
00:39:52,505 --> 00:39:55,393
we've got the facilities being built. Yep. We've

1116
00:39:55,393 --> 00:39:58,105
got the dogs overseas, we start training people

1117
00:39:58,105 --> 00:40:00,976
immediately. Yeah. Immediately. Yeah What that looks like

1118
00:40:00,976 --> 00:40:02,811
is we start running trainer schools.

1119
00:40:03,463 --> 00:40:06,271
Now we're gonna be training people who are

1120
00:40:06,566 --> 00:40:07,385
not just

1121
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,385
interested in it, but they're the ones who

1122
00:40:10,385 --> 00:40:13,187
wanna, like, see the vision through. And we're

1123
00:40:13,187 --> 00:40:15,261
employing people. Like, let me throw out some

1124
00:40:15,261 --> 00:40:16,218
names. And also,

1125
00:40:16,776 --> 00:40:18,292
now that I'm thinking about this, you can

1126
00:40:18,292 --> 00:40:21,004
also provide them with an accreditation, so they

1127
00:40:21,004 --> 00:40:23,172
actually get to obtain a skill said. Yep.

1128
00:40:23,411 --> 00:40:25,804
And hold an accreditation that will follow them

1129
00:40:25,804 --> 00:40:27,398
whether they choose to stay or go. Yep

1130
00:40:27,478 --> 00:40:29,552
For sure. Yep. We then say to people,

1131
00:40:29,791 --> 00:40:31,226
and let me throw out, like, let me

1132
00:40:31,226 --> 00:40:31,726
use

1133
00:40:32,038 --> 00:40:35,001
Bang as an example. Yeah right? Ben's definitely

1134
00:40:35,057 --> 00:40:37,122
1 of the people that I approach, he

1135
00:40:37,122 --> 00:40:39,505
performs a similar function to this like in

1136
00:40:39,505 --> 00:40:41,593
his own scale, Ben's a great trainer does

1137
00:40:41,593 --> 00:40:42,872
his own thing, but he's in perth. Yep.

1138
00:40:43,032 --> 00:40:44,630
Right? So he's a person I say, hey

1139
00:40:44,710 --> 00:40:46,548
Ben. You're money my perth. I want you.

1140
00:40:46,708 --> 00:40:48,386
Do you wanna do? Now let's assume that

1141
00:40:48,386 --> 00:40:50,000
he's happy with the amount of money we

1142
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:51,360
can pay him to do it. Yep. And

1143
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,000
he's like Fuck In. Okay. Cool. There's... I'm

1144
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:55,920
not running 1 of them. I'm overseeing it.

1145
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:57,440
I'm a project manager of the whole thing.

1146
00:40:57,679 --> 00:40:59,213
We have... And let's just say it's gonna

1147
00:40:59,213 --> 00:41:00,890
be you here. If for... For whatever reason

1148
00:41:00,890 --> 00:41:02,087
you've quit your job in your here. Right?

1149
00:41:02,806 --> 00:41:04,721
You're doing the new south Wales 1. We've

1150
00:41:04,721 --> 00:41:07,376
got people in Melbourne, Queensland, all the places

1151
00:41:07,926 --> 00:41:10,466
what we do is we start having these

1152
00:41:10,466 --> 00:41:13,085
coordinated training sessions. Yep. So that all these

1153
00:41:13,085 --> 00:41:15,482
people, there's a big flight budget. Right? We'll

1154
00:41:15,482 --> 00:41:17,947
get together at the various facilities that we're

1155
00:41:17,947 --> 00:41:20,651
now building. And in... Until they're ready, we

1156
00:41:20,651 --> 00:41:22,719
start doing it wherever we do it, but

1157
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:23,409
we start

1158
00:41:23,768 --> 00:41:26,977
cross leveling the training, and we've upscale everybody

1159
00:41:27,115 --> 00:41:29,744
as much as possible. You here start running

1160
00:41:29,744 --> 00:41:31,672
like, hey, This is how I do things

1161
00:41:31,672 --> 00:41:33,028
as to tell I think of training dogs.

1162
00:41:33,188 --> 00:41:34,007
We run these

1163
00:41:34,385 --> 00:41:37,176
concentrations. Maybe they're weekend things that happen every

1164
00:41:37,176 --> 00:41:39,967
month so that you're constantly training your staff

1165
00:41:39,967 --> 00:41:43,891
here. But then everybody comes together or a

1166
00:41:43,891 --> 00:41:45,566
selected number because people have to run the

1167
00:41:45,566 --> 00:41:47,639
candles or whatever, but selected number of people

1168
00:41:47,639 --> 00:41:48,458
are constantly

1169
00:41:48,836 --> 00:41:51,560
coming together to cross information. Alright?

1170
00:41:52,354 --> 00:41:55,608
Then when the dogs start arriving, we then

1171
00:41:55,608 --> 00:41:58,704
allocate them around the country because we're only

1172
00:41:58,704 --> 00:42:00,865
say we bring in 10 different dogs, 10

1173
00:42:00,865 --> 00:42:02,936
different blood lines or maybe it's 5 blood

1174
00:42:02,936 --> 00:42:04,609
lines with 2 of each. Whatever we decide

1175
00:42:04,609 --> 00:42:05,565
on, this is, you know,

1176
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:08,353
effect of the working group that figures out.

1177
00:42:09,164 --> 00:42:10,836
We then put those around we start breeding.

1178
00:42:11,075 --> 00:42:14,202
Now we don't sell giveaway part ways with

1179
00:42:14,419 --> 00:42:17,046
any of the dogs for probably 10 years.

1180
00:42:17,777 --> 00:42:21,137
Right? This is that we are developing real

1181
00:42:21,193 --> 00:42:22,622
blood lines. So these candles. This is 1

1182
00:42:22,622 --> 00:42:24,449
of the reason why it's so difficult is

1183
00:42:24,449 --> 00:42:25,878
the huge because we have to be able

1184
00:42:25,878 --> 00:42:26,672
to keep whole leaders.

1185
00:42:27,244 --> 00:42:28,364
And we have to be able to see,

1186
00:42:28,525 --> 00:42:31,244
like, what happens over time here because we're

1187
00:42:31,244 --> 00:42:33,405
trying to establish proper blood lines that has

1188
00:42:33,405 --> 00:42:35,737
never been established in Australia. We wanna look

1189
00:42:35,737 --> 00:42:38,211
and see, like, okay, this puppy, and we're

1190
00:42:38,211 --> 00:42:39,967
recording all of this. Right? Like, there's so

1191
00:42:39,967 --> 00:42:42,043
much availability of this sort of data in

1192
00:42:42,043 --> 00:42:43,973
this kind of facility. Universe cities could get

1193
00:42:43,973 --> 00:42:45,488
in and this as hundred percent. We could

1194
00:42:45,488 --> 00:42:47,482
study it like, there's plenty of room for

1195
00:42:47,482 --> 00:42:49,875
this to people can do thesis Phd. Exactly.

1196
00:42:50,114 --> 00:42:51,469
Like it's got scope for all of this.

1197
00:42:51,789 --> 00:42:54,193
Exactly. Yeah. So we start breeding these dogs,

1198
00:42:54,591 --> 00:42:56,738
and we have now these meetings maybe go

1199
00:42:56,738 --> 00:42:59,044
from monthly to quarterly or something like that.

1200
00:42:59,521 --> 00:43:01,294
But the facility heads

1201
00:43:01,764 --> 00:43:03,997
guided by the project manager,

1202
00:43:04,396 --> 00:43:07,427
meet regularly. Now maybe that's in person, Maybe

1203
00:43:07,427 --> 00:43:10,298
that's a weekly meeting zoom call whatever where

1204
00:43:10,298 --> 00:43:11,909
we talk about where we're at how things

1205
00:43:11,909 --> 00:43:13,269
are panning out, And we can show the

1206
00:43:13,269 --> 00:43:15,190
video. We've got all the data. And so,

1207
00:43:15,349 --> 00:43:17,109
like, this is how these dogs are developing.

1208
00:43:17,349 --> 00:43:19,443
This is what we're seeing. This is what

1209
00:43:19,443 --> 00:43:21,681
we're encountering. We like this. We don't like

1210
00:43:21,681 --> 00:43:24,398
this. And we're watching this over time and

1211
00:43:24,398 --> 00:43:26,956
seeing like, these puppies that show us particular

1212
00:43:26,956 --> 00:43:29,048
traits at a young age. Are we seeing

1213
00:43:29,048 --> 00:43:30,644
that turn into something at 2 years old?

1214
00:43:30,804 --> 00:43:32,800
Mh. And when we repeat that mating? Are

1215
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:34,556
we seeing the same thing? Is that... Is

1216
00:43:34,556 --> 00:43:36,312
that something that we can rely on? Can

1217
00:43:36,312 --> 00:43:38,965
we understand that? And what we're also doing

1218
00:43:38,965 --> 00:43:41,284
along the way is we're real allocating these

1219
00:43:41,284 --> 00:43:44,644
dogs, so that although the dogs are at

1220
00:43:44,644 --> 00:43:47,289
a particular facility. They're not your dogs. They're

1221
00:43:47,289 --> 00:43:50,328
the project stocks, and we're moving them around

1222
00:43:50,384 --> 00:43:53,161
because you and Ben again to use you

1223
00:43:53,161 --> 00:43:54,034
guys as an example.

1224
00:43:54,764 --> 00:43:56,435
Gonna have slightly different things that you do,

1225
00:43:56,594 --> 00:43:58,902
you're gonna have different things. And even though

1226
00:43:58,902 --> 00:44:01,051
you're both on the same mission, you both

1227
00:44:01,051 --> 00:44:03,296
share the same vision, and you're both being

1228
00:44:03,296 --> 00:44:05,528
guided by the same inputs. You're still gonna

1229
00:44:05,528 --> 00:44:07,680
do things differently. That's the beauty of these

1230
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:09,833
different variables Different people. Yeah. And so we're

1231
00:44:09,833 --> 00:44:10,572
gonna see

1232
00:44:10,964 --> 00:44:12,802
the blood line that landed over there, that's

1233
00:44:12,802 --> 00:44:14,161
going really well for. But I'll give us

1234
00:44:14,161 --> 00:44:15,999
a couple of those at the next mating,

1235
00:44:16,399 --> 00:44:17,518
put them over here and see how they

1236
00:44:17,518 --> 00:44:19,436
go with you. Right? See how, like all

1237
00:44:19,436 --> 00:44:22,559
this effect has of that. Different climates, all

1238
00:44:22,559 --> 00:44:25,422
sorts of things. In the meantime, we're still

1239
00:44:25,422 --> 00:44:28,223
doing these big connected training days. Right? Where

1240
00:44:28,223 --> 00:44:30,137
we use the facilities at each 1, and

1241
00:44:30,137 --> 00:44:31,891
maybe that looks like we bring a bunch

1242
00:44:31,891 --> 00:44:33,407
of dogs. Maybe we fly them in and

1243
00:44:33,407 --> 00:44:34,843
we drive them. However they get to the

1244
00:44:34,843 --> 00:44:36,438
places, but the dogs come with a bunch

1245
00:44:36,438 --> 00:44:37,156
of their handlers.

1246
00:44:37,729 --> 00:44:39,402
And we start cross leveling. And we show,

1247
00:44:39,481 --> 00:44:40,994
like, hey, This is where we're at with

1248
00:44:40,994 --> 00:44:43,384
these dogs. These are the problems we're encountering,

1249
00:44:43,782 --> 00:44:46,331
seems to be fairly uniform across the litter.

1250
00:44:46,744 --> 00:44:48,338
You know, like, so we start getting to

1251
00:44:48,338 --> 00:44:51,287
really understand these things. And over time, and

1252
00:44:51,446 --> 00:44:52,960
I'm talking... When I say over time, I'm

1253
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,127
talking 5 to 10 years before we have

1254
00:44:55,127 --> 00:44:57,911
any real relevant data, we then start to

1255
00:44:57,911 --> 00:45:00,217
get a pretty fucking good understanding of, like,

1256
00:45:00,377 --> 00:45:02,699
what works and what doesn't. What adapts well

1257
00:45:02,699 --> 00:45:04,449
to certain training techniques when we put different

1258
00:45:04,449 --> 00:45:06,278
blood lines together what happens, and we've got

1259
00:45:06,278 --> 00:45:08,266
other oversight of all of these. By people

1260
00:45:08,266 --> 00:45:08,639
who

1261
00:45:09,078 --> 00:45:11,388
we're not trying to convince anyone of anything.

1262
00:45:11,706 --> 00:45:14,097
The main thing of this is everybody's being

1263
00:45:14,097 --> 00:45:15,712
paid to do the work

1264
00:45:16,023 --> 00:45:18,253
rather than sell any of these dogs. These

1265
00:45:18,253 --> 00:45:20,562
dogs are staying in the facilities. We have

1266
00:45:20,562 --> 00:45:22,473
within the facilities. We have people that live

1267
00:45:22,473 --> 00:45:23,985
there. We have kennel,

1268
00:45:24,479 --> 00:45:26,637
but we have house setups where some of

1269
00:45:26,637 --> 00:45:28,874
the dogs are gonna be raised to feel

1270
00:45:28,874 --> 00:45:30,712
like they're someone's pet, and they're gonna leaving

1271
00:45:30,712 --> 00:45:32,070
in the house with someone and we're gonna

1272
00:45:32,070 --> 00:45:33,762
see... Are they capable of Are they not?

1273
00:45:34,002 --> 00:45:36,075
Because that's an interesting data point. It's not

1274
00:45:36,075 --> 00:45:37,670
doesn't mean that they're good or bad or

1275
00:45:37,670 --> 00:45:39,105
otherwise, but it's a data point that would

1276
00:45:39,105 --> 00:45:40,619
is how how does it affect the outcome?

1277
00:45:40,859 --> 00:45:42,629
Yeah How does that affect? And so these

1278
00:45:42,629 --> 00:45:44,227
guys that, you know, once we know, okay,

1279
00:45:44,387 --> 00:45:46,864
we're reliably breeding similar dogs, we raise them

1280
00:45:46,864 --> 00:45:48,703
differently, and we say, okay, what happens here?

1281
00:45:49,182 --> 00:45:50,780
Because when you're out crossing dogs, and then

1282
00:45:50,780 --> 00:45:52,870
you raise them differently, that's not data in

1283
00:45:52,870 --> 00:45:54,384
any way, shape or form because they could

1284
00:45:54,384 --> 00:45:56,057
be fucking completely different dogs a way that

1285
00:45:56,057 --> 00:45:57,411
1 reacts to being raised in a house

1286
00:45:57,411 --> 00:45:58,925
versus in a kennel isn't is of no

1287
00:45:58,925 --> 00:46:01,156
use if they're not similar dogs genetically,

1288
00:46:01,729 --> 00:46:04,840
or like similarly spirited dogs rather than just

1289
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:08,133
brothers that are completely different dogs. Yep. So

1290
00:46:08,431 --> 00:46:10,840
we've got Facilities all around the place. We're

1291
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:13,155
breeding dogs in all these different facilities. We're

1292
00:46:13,155 --> 00:46:14,294
meeting regularly

1293
00:46:14,752 --> 00:46:17,387
for concentrated training days where we are ups

1294
00:46:17,387 --> 00:46:20,275
skill everybody. And the goal is at the

1295
00:46:20,275 --> 00:46:22,829
upper levels, the sort of management of those

1296
00:46:22,829 --> 00:46:25,383
facilities, I want long term staff. Mh. I

1297
00:46:25,463 --> 00:46:27,334
I want people who are get and

1298
00:46:28,108 --> 00:46:30,813
time. Yep. In the mid sort of management,

1299
00:46:30,973 --> 00:46:33,599
the trainer level, I want people who are

1300
00:46:33,599 --> 00:46:35,925
there for a few years at the least.

1301
00:46:36,324 --> 00:46:38,796
I want them getting their skills, definitely ticked

1302
00:46:38,796 --> 00:46:40,789
up. Yep. But they're gonna be learning so

1303
00:46:40,789 --> 00:46:43,182
much about dogs and behavior, and they're gonna

1304
00:46:43,182 --> 00:46:44,948
get so good on them the tools that

1305
00:46:45,107 --> 00:46:46,934
I want those people then going like, you

1306
00:46:46,934 --> 00:46:48,842
know what? I can go out into private

1307
00:46:48,842 --> 00:46:50,773
industry. And as I'm saying if they get

1308
00:46:50,987 --> 00:46:52,815
accreditation, there's so much upside for them. Yeah.

1309
00:46:53,230 --> 00:46:56,269
And out ken text our basic trainers, not

1310
00:46:56,269 --> 00:46:58,829
our supervisor level trainers, but our actual normal

1311
00:46:58,829 --> 00:47:01,483
trainers. I wanna a high turnover. Those. I

1312
00:47:01,483 --> 00:47:03,077
don't want them in the job for a

1313
00:47:03,077 --> 00:47:04,433
really long period of time. Of course, they

1314
00:47:04,433 --> 00:47:06,427
can be, that can work their way through

1315
00:47:06,427 --> 00:47:08,660
the whole thing and go from 1 to

1316
00:47:08,660 --> 00:47:10,909
the other. There's a career progression within for

1317
00:47:10,909 --> 00:47:13,141
them. But I want those people turning over

1318
00:47:13,141 --> 00:47:15,295
because there are staff that are now training

1319
00:47:15,295 --> 00:47:16,731
the rest of the people around the country.

1320
00:47:17,289 --> 00:47:19,601
They're are people who spend 06:12 months with

1321
00:47:19,601 --> 00:47:19,841
us.

1322
00:47:20,574 --> 00:47:22,568
Doing this stuff, getting a really high skill

1323
00:47:22,568 --> 00:47:25,280
set in dog training in general, and then

1324
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:26,557
they're the ones that are going into people's

1325
00:47:26,557 --> 00:47:28,968
homes doing behavior education, getting jobs in places

1326
00:47:28,968 --> 00:47:31,365
like this at kennel that train pets. Yeah.

1327
00:47:31,925 --> 00:47:34,402
Because they behavioral knowledge. They understand how to

1328
00:47:34,402 --> 00:47:36,720
care and Medicate and all the stuff. Everything.

1329
00:47:37,134 --> 00:47:39,043
And the invaluable thing of that as well

1330
00:47:39,043 --> 00:47:40,793
is a lot of candles don't have people

1331
00:47:40,793 --> 00:47:42,781
that have got experience with dogs that have

1332
00:47:42,781 --> 00:47:45,190
got eye drives. Yeah. So then you're already

1333
00:47:45,190 --> 00:47:46,949
plugging somebody in who can come in as

1334
00:47:46,949 --> 00:47:47,609
a senior

1335
00:47:47,909 --> 00:47:49,909
leadership role that can come in and say,

1336
00:47:50,070 --> 00:47:52,469
yep, I've dealt with dogs at this caliber.

1337
00:47:52,710 --> 00:47:54,476
I've looked after him. I've done all the

1338
00:47:54,476 --> 00:47:57,580
husband. I've done the medications. Yeah. Fantastic.

1339
00:47:58,137 --> 00:48:00,922
Amazing. Staff within these facilities are going to

1340
00:48:00,922 --> 00:48:01,979
be encouraged

1341
00:48:02,609 --> 00:48:04,466
to take a particular

1342
00:48:04,844 --> 00:48:07,638
dog. The dog will always remain owned by

1343
00:48:07,638 --> 00:48:09,873
the facility. Until we get enough data on

1344
00:48:09,873 --> 00:48:12,280
them to the point where they're like, okay.

1345
00:48:12,599 --> 00:48:14,034
We know everything we need to know about

1346
00:48:14,034 --> 00:48:16,583
these dogs. They're 3, 4 years old. You

1347
00:48:16,583 --> 00:48:18,576
can have it if you want it. Right?

1348
00:48:18,909 --> 00:48:20,817
But in the meantime, they live in the

1349
00:48:20,817 --> 00:48:22,806
facility, but they potentially go home with staff

1350
00:48:22,806 --> 00:48:24,873
members if that's what they want. Right? And

1351
00:48:24,952 --> 00:48:27,338
I wanna encourage those staff members to do

1352
00:48:27,338 --> 00:48:29,816
things with those dogs. So So they can

1353
00:48:29,816 --> 00:48:31,244
compete with the dogs, and they can compete.

1354
00:48:31,403 --> 00:48:33,942
We will grow dog sport like fucking crazy.

1355
00:48:34,101 --> 00:48:35,608
And Bunch them. Obviously,

1356
00:48:36,258 --> 00:48:38,003
I wanna push Psa. Because it's a great

1357
00:48:38,003 --> 00:48:40,302
crossover as well because that's right. The Psa

1358
00:48:40,302 --> 00:48:42,523
dog can go straight into industry. Yep. But

1359
00:48:42,523 --> 00:48:44,680
we want dogs doing Ig. If people are

1360
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:46,270
more interested in doing Mon, we wanna grow

1361
00:48:46,270 --> 00:48:48,417
that because now like, the biggest bottleneck that

1362
00:48:48,417 --> 00:48:50,507
we have to those kind of sports existing

1363
00:48:50,802 --> 00:48:53,267
is people that wanna play them. No. That's

1364
00:48:53,267 --> 00:48:54,873
not true. There's plenty of people who wanna

1365
00:48:54,873 --> 00:48:57,179
play them. It's people who have the ability

1366
00:48:57,179 --> 00:48:58,610
to have a dog that's capable of doing

1367
00:48:58,610 --> 00:49:01,155
it, live in a living situation where they

1368
00:49:01,155 --> 00:49:03,079
can keep that kind of dog and have

1369
00:49:03,079 --> 00:49:04,432
access to other people who can help them

1370
00:49:04,432 --> 00:49:05,944
do it. IDQA

1371
00:49:05,944 --> 00:49:07,456
club or that kind of shit. And have

1372
00:49:07,456 --> 00:49:09,127
a Gp dog with a recall. Yeah.

1373
00:49:10,241 --> 00:49:11,409
So these

1374
00:49:11,769 --> 00:49:13,927
facilities, solve all of those problems. So we're

1375
00:49:13,927 --> 00:49:15,844
growing dog sport like fucking crazy. Know At?

1376
00:49:16,004 --> 00:49:18,401
Like, and we are using these dogs, and

1377
00:49:18,401 --> 00:49:20,974
that's our testing ground. We're then putting them

1378
00:49:20,974 --> 00:49:22,494
into the test tools come off, let's say

1379
00:49:22,494 --> 00:49:23,695
the dog on the field. We're doing all

1380
00:49:23,695 --> 00:49:24,414
these sorts of things.

1381
00:49:25,295 --> 00:49:28,094
At a certain point, we're gonna reach the

1382
00:49:28,094 --> 00:49:29,775
place where we're gonna start placing dog.

1383
00:49:30,426 --> 00:49:32,016
And it's what we're gonna do is the

1384
00:49:32,016 --> 00:49:34,083
adult dogs who are raised trains sold. We're

1385
00:49:34,083 --> 00:49:37,503
gonna raise trained ready. We're gonna start placing

1386
00:49:37,503 --> 00:49:39,331
them in various roles. Now those roles look

1387
00:49:39,331 --> 00:49:41,967
like. Police and military roles. Those those roles

1388
00:49:41,967 --> 00:49:43,793
look like, you know, detection. If that's what

1389
00:49:43,793 --> 00:49:45,778
we're doing. We're gonna be going to corrections.

1390
00:49:46,096 --> 00:49:47,843
We're going to also. And this is 1

1391
00:49:47,843 --> 00:49:50,425
of the reasons why there needs to be

1392
00:49:50,561 --> 00:49:52,630
a decision maker who can do the things.

1393
00:49:52,789 --> 00:49:54,540
It's exactly sort of as you've alluded to

1394
00:49:54,540 --> 00:49:57,258
the greyhound staff. Mh. Is that there needs

1395
00:49:57,258 --> 00:49:59,717
to be a person. And again, I feel

1396
00:49:59,717 --> 00:50:02,098
like I embody this, but it needs to

1397
00:50:02,098 --> 00:50:03,074
be a person who

1398
00:50:03,526 --> 00:50:06,828
sees the vision of it. And is their

1399
00:50:06,887 --> 00:50:07,387
decisions

1400
00:50:08,804 --> 00:50:09,304
questioned

1401
00:50:09,683 --> 00:50:12,215
only in how successful they'll be not what

1402
00:50:12,334 --> 00:50:14,478
kickback they got from it. Because the moral

1403
00:50:14,478 --> 00:50:15,534
compass of you

1404
00:50:16,066 --> 00:50:18,289
as I have for many years, I would

1405
00:50:18,289 --> 00:50:20,607
completely trust you with... And like it's I

1406
00:50:20,607 --> 00:50:21,980
wanna I know you was.

1407
00:50:22,670 --> 00:50:24,098
If... But, like, I wanna be out of

1408
00:50:24,098 --> 00:50:25,686
place a door with someone. And never and

1409
00:50:25,686 --> 00:50:27,035
not be questioned over it. So I want

1410
00:50:27,193 --> 00:50:29,274
I want someone to turn up and you're

1411
00:50:29,274 --> 00:50:30,630
like a person who's not within it or

1412
00:50:30,630 --> 00:50:32,465
maybe they're an employee that's left whatever. Yep.

1413
00:50:32,704 --> 00:50:33,981
And I go, no, You've got the skill

1414
00:50:33,981 --> 00:50:36,136
set. Yep. Like, you take this dog. I

1415
00:50:36,136 --> 00:50:37,345
know how much skin you would have in

1416
00:50:37,345 --> 00:50:39,095
this. And how important it would be to

1417
00:50:39,095 --> 00:50:41,425
you... Let's include Ego in this

1418
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,125
for your ego to be able to sit

1419
00:50:44,125 --> 00:50:45,744
still at night and be comfortable

1420
00:50:46,045 --> 00:50:47,484
or not let's not call it your ego,

1421
00:50:47,644 --> 00:50:48,385
but your

1422
00:50:49,085 --> 00:50:49,585
soul

1423
00:50:49,885 --> 00:50:52,457
to be not restless about this. I know

1424
00:50:52,457 --> 00:50:53,813
how important it would be to you to

1425
00:50:53,813 --> 00:50:55,349
pull it off and make sure that there's

1426
00:50:55,407 --> 00:50:58,198
transparency. Yeah. And clean execution in this. Yeah.

1427
00:50:58,357 --> 00:51:00,112
That's right. So I think that what's super

1428
00:51:00,112 --> 00:51:00,612
important

1429
00:51:00,923 --> 00:51:04,105
for whoever runs that is that they're transparent

1430
00:51:04,105 --> 00:51:05,933
and what they do. Yep. But you can't

1431
00:51:05,933 --> 00:51:07,524
influence what I do. Like I'm doing that.

1432
00:51:07,762 --> 00:51:10,401
I item given 10 of these dogs to

1433
00:51:10,401 --> 00:51:11,752
someone to see what they do with them.

1434
00:51:11,911 --> 00:51:13,501
I'm fucking doing that. I'll tell you that's

1435
00:51:13,501 --> 00:51:13,978
what's happening.

1436
00:51:14,614 --> 00:51:16,760
And I'll explain why and I'll give you

1437
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:18,324
the bigger picture on why I think it's

1438
00:51:18,523 --> 00:51:20,664
a worthwhile investment to the project.

1439
00:51:21,219 --> 00:51:22,884
But what there can't be as a person

1440
00:51:22,884 --> 00:51:24,233
going, Oh, but, he's your mate. Like, yeah,

1441
00:51:24,311 --> 00:51:26,630
no shit. He's my friend. That's why I

1442
00:51:26,630 --> 00:51:28,789
know him. That's why I have the level...

1443
00:51:28,949 --> 00:51:30,230
Like, because that's the problem with a lot

1444
00:51:30,230 --> 00:51:33,190
of these things is that people... Certainly in

1445
00:51:33,190 --> 00:51:35,119
government department. Like, this is an interesting thing

1446
00:51:35,119 --> 00:51:37,429
say of my own own old unit is

1447
00:51:37,429 --> 00:51:39,420
that now I'm so far gone from the

1448
00:51:39,420 --> 00:51:41,251
unit that there's a lot of people who

1449
00:51:41,251 --> 00:51:42,446
never knew me there.

1450
00:51:42,939 --> 00:51:45,245
Who are now in, like, senior executive positions.

1451
00:51:45,405 --> 00:51:47,154
Mh. And they look, and they go, why

1452
00:51:47,154 --> 00:51:48,666
are we employing this guy who's a former

1453
00:51:48,666 --> 00:51:50,654
unit member, and they can go well this

1454
00:51:50,654 --> 00:51:53,771
rigs of fucking corruption. Yeah. Because the boys

1455
00:51:53,771 --> 00:51:56,021
are just looking after him. And that definitely

1456
00:51:56,396 --> 00:51:59,278
from the outside is totally fair thing to

1457
00:51:59,278 --> 00:52:00,557
think. Yeah. You should be able to ask

1458
00:52:00,557 --> 00:52:02,794
that question. Yeah. But we go, no. The

1459
00:52:02,794 --> 00:52:05,271
reason he's here is because we know him,

1460
00:52:05,510 --> 00:52:07,362
we know and trust him and he has

1461
00:52:07,362 --> 00:52:09,196
the skill. Skill set. Here's the skill set.

1462
00:52:09,356 --> 00:52:10,791
So that's how it needs to. Here is

1463
00:52:10,791 --> 00:52:13,503
the resume that you are unfamiliar with. Yeah.

1464
00:52:13,743 --> 00:52:15,976
Yeah. So we do all that. Now we've

1465
00:52:15,976 --> 00:52:16,429
got

1466
00:52:16,787 --> 00:52:19,885
super skilled people, Because we're constantly meeting we're

1467
00:52:19,885 --> 00:52:22,983
cross leveling. We're not only moving the dogs

1468
00:52:22,983 --> 00:52:25,704
around. We're moving staff where that's possible and

1469
00:52:25,704 --> 00:52:27,621
appropriate now aware that that means people are

1470
00:52:27,621 --> 00:52:30,119
moving around, But a lot of these facilities

1471
00:52:30,577 --> 00:52:33,382
have leave in capability them. Right? Because we

1472
00:52:33,382 --> 00:52:34,733
need to be doing that. We've got Kennel

1473
00:52:34,733 --> 00:52:36,083
full of dogs. Right? People have to leave

1474
00:52:36,083 --> 00:52:37,194
their all the time. And before too long,

1475
00:52:37,353 --> 00:52:38,250
we're gonna have

1476
00:52:38,623 --> 00:52:39,894
hundred and 50 dogs at 1 of the

1477
00:52:39,894 --> 00:52:41,641
places is gonna need to be multiple people

1478
00:52:41,641 --> 00:52:44,037
that leave at the premises. Yep. So we

1479
00:52:44,037 --> 00:52:46,021
can start moving people around who are willing

1480
00:52:46,021 --> 00:52:47,925
to do that and cross leveling skill sets,

1481
00:52:48,322 --> 00:52:50,171
cross leveling dogs and massively

1482
00:52:51,039 --> 00:52:54,000
increasing the quality of the average dog trainer

1483
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:57,360
around the country by putting back into the

1484
00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:59,768
dog space, these people. Now we will be

1485
00:52:59,768 --> 00:53:01,997
holding events we'll be ups skill, people who

1486
00:53:01,997 --> 00:53:04,385
are outside of your conversations. Seminars all of

1487
00:53:04,385 --> 00:53:05,897
all of it. Yep. All of that.

1488
00:53:06,630 --> 00:53:06,950
Then,

1489
00:53:07,430 --> 00:53:09,590
eventually, we get to the point where we're

1490
00:53:09,590 --> 00:53:12,250
raising and training these dogs. How does it

1491
00:53:12,309 --> 00:53:14,789
regenerate profit? We're getting to that? Okay. Cool.

1492
00:53:15,444 --> 00:53:17,202
At a certain point we start placing the

1493
00:53:17,202 --> 00:53:19,440
dogs in units, and we're giving them to

1494
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:21,438
them. Right right? We're giving them to these

1495
00:53:21,438 --> 00:53:23,915
units and saying like, this is our dog,

1496
00:53:24,249 --> 00:53:26,962
Now the realities around this get tricky, but

1497
00:53:26,962 --> 00:53:28,797
however it looks, we place the dogs with

1498
00:53:28,797 --> 00:53:31,191
people and go, we are giving you this

1499
00:53:31,191 --> 00:53:31,691
dog

1500
00:53:32,005 --> 00:53:34,724
on the premise that we stay very up

1501
00:53:34,724 --> 00:53:36,085
to date with what happens with this dog.

1502
00:53:36,324 --> 00:53:38,405
Yep. We wanna know everything about what happens.

1503
00:53:38,885 --> 00:53:41,615
Judgment free. This is not to ridicule your

1504
00:53:41,615 --> 00:53:43,443
training or whatever? Just to find out what

1505
00:53:43,443 --> 00:53:45,112
happens in the field. What happens? We need

1506
00:53:45,112 --> 00:53:47,019
to know how well the dog engages we

1507
00:53:47,019 --> 00:53:48,530
need to know how well does it go

1508
00:53:48,530 --> 00:53:50,693
and tracking? Like, how does it play out.

1509
00:53:50,932 --> 00:53:53,168
Mh. And without judgment, we're not planning on

1510
00:53:53,168 --> 00:53:54,844
blaming you for anything. If there's a hole

1511
00:53:54,844 --> 00:53:56,361
in your training and you know it or

1512
00:53:56,361 --> 00:53:58,277
you want that plug, come to us we'll

1513
00:53:58,277 --> 00:54:00,530
happily plug research. That's what we need to

1514
00:54:00,530 --> 00:54:02,289
know what's going on. We eventually get to

1515
00:54:02,289 --> 00:54:05,570
the point where we maybe identify that maybe

1516
00:54:05,570 --> 00:54:07,489
this pipeline didn't pan out. There's a healthy

1517
00:54:07,489 --> 00:54:09,342
issue fuck. We didn't know about that. It's

1518
00:54:09,342 --> 00:54:11,340
come to the surface now. Mh. Or these

1519
00:54:11,340 --> 00:54:13,578
ones turn out to be too spicy. They

1520
00:54:13,578 --> 00:54:15,416
come back at the handlers. Yeah right? There's

1521
00:54:15,416 --> 00:54:17,188
lots of different things. So we start going,

1522
00:54:17,347 --> 00:54:19,181
okay, We're not gonna continue with that 1.

1523
00:54:19,500 --> 00:54:21,653
We're gonna cross level and we're gonna, like,

1524
00:54:21,813 --> 00:54:23,568
push that 1 out. So that I would

1525
00:54:23,568 --> 00:54:25,822
think that 10 years later

1526
00:54:26,612 --> 00:54:29,260
we should have a pretty good visibility on

1527
00:54:29,317 --> 00:54:32,977
probably 3 different styles of dogs that we

1528
00:54:32,977 --> 00:54:34,983
like. What are you gonna call this? Ga

1529
00:54:35,063 --> 00:54:36,657
Kennel? Something on that.

1530
00:54:38,648 --> 00:54:40,481
We then get to the point where now

1531
00:54:40,481 --> 00:54:42,723
we can start looking that perhaps we start

1532
00:54:42,723 --> 00:54:44,949
selling these dogs to public. Now people rather

1533
00:54:44,949 --> 00:54:46,619
than people who are part of our organization,

1534
00:54:47,016 --> 00:54:48,845
now we can start to potentially sell them.

1535
00:54:49,340 --> 00:54:50,940
And we start looking at how that's gonna

1536
00:54:50,940 --> 00:54:53,500
go. That takes a new different structure. That's

1537
00:54:53,500 --> 00:54:56,000
a different team. They'll end goal

1538
00:54:56,315 --> 00:54:57,534
of this whole thing

1539
00:54:57,914 --> 00:55:01,114
is that we have identified people along the

1540
00:55:01,114 --> 00:55:04,802
way who are bought in Right? Like they're

1541
00:55:04,802 --> 00:55:06,552
you on the project they wanna do it,

1542
00:55:07,110 --> 00:55:08,860
and we eventually get to the point now.

1543
00:55:09,099 --> 00:55:11,182
I don't know the timeline on this. It

1544
00:55:11,182 --> 00:55:13,488
might be 15 years. It might be 20

1545
00:55:13,488 --> 00:55:13,726
years.

1546
00:55:14,363 --> 00:55:15,078
But again,

1547
00:55:15,635 --> 00:55:18,975
that's small numbers when you're talking massive infrastructure

1548
00:55:18,975 --> 00:55:19,929
projects, which this is.

1549
00:55:20,898 --> 00:55:23,047
We then eventually get to the point where

1550
00:55:23,047 --> 00:55:24,639
if this is government funded,

1551
00:55:25,116 --> 00:55:26,548
then we get to the point where we

1552
00:55:26,548 --> 00:55:30,025
go, alright, you Glenn can take a lease

1553
00:55:30,224 --> 00:55:32,140
on the premises that we own,

1554
00:55:32,699 --> 00:55:35,652
that lease will be, like, a 99 year

1555
00:55:35,652 --> 00:55:37,568
lease, like you essentially own it, and it'll

1556
00:55:37,568 --> 00:55:38,766
be at no cost, but we can kick

1557
00:55:38,766 --> 00:55:40,615
you out if you're you know, in proprietary

1558
00:55:40,615 --> 00:55:42,286
whatever, like that's how it will work. Yep.

1559
00:55:43,083 --> 00:55:44,994
On the same day, we've been cross loading

1560
00:55:44,994 --> 00:55:46,506
everybody. We've been getting everybody to these same

1561
00:55:46,506 --> 00:55:48,667
points on the same day, The gloves come

1562
00:55:48,667 --> 00:55:51,285
off, we're no longer a government department, uses

1563
00:55:51,285 --> 00:55:53,427
is now a functioning business for you. But

1564
00:55:53,427 --> 00:55:55,648
it has been built. The facility is there.

1565
00:55:56,218 --> 00:55:58,517
Right? You've got the blood lines working. All

1566
00:55:58,517 --> 00:56:00,261
the risk is gone in that way. We've

1567
00:56:00,261 --> 00:56:01,212
cross leveled everything.

1568
00:56:01,847 --> 00:56:03,273
Everybody's at an even playing field.

1569
00:56:03,923 --> 00:56:05,833
It's now up to you to turn this

1570
00:56:05,833 --> 00:56:07,822
into a functioning business that continues to do

1571
00:56:07,822 --> 00:56:10,368
the same. Now how long it takes to

1572
00:56:10,368 --> 00:56:11,896
get to that point I don't know. Yeah.

1573
00:56:12,056 --> 00:56:13,968
And how viable that last step is I'm

1574
00:56:13,968 --> 00:56:16,119
not a hundred percent. That's so far down

1575
00:56:16,119 --> 00:56:18,032
the line, but I I don't know. I

1576
00:56:18,032 --> 00:56:20,041
many facilities you say you need? 1 per

1577
00:56:20,041 --> 00:56:21,717
state, but at the minimum, I think that

1578
00:56:21,717 --> 00:56:23,633
you'd need 5. Like, I think you need...

1579
00:56:23,872 --> 00:56:25,708
You didn't need more than 30000000 dollars. Yeah.

1580
00:56:26,027 --> 00:56:28,994
It depends on like I agree, but it

1581
00:56:28,994 --> 00:56:31,546
depends on how we're costing things? Like, are

1582
00:56:31,546 --> 00:56:33,619
we paying for every dollar ourselves or, like,

1583
00:56:33,778 --> 00:56:36,411
other facilities... The purpose built facilities.

1584
00:56:36,904 --> 00:56:38,340
You wouldn't get much change out of 5000000.

1585
00:56:38,819 --> 00:56:40,974
That's what I'm expecting. 5000000 per. But then

1586
00:56:40,974 --> 00:56:43,129
if it were government funded, like I was

1587
00:56:43,129 --> 00:56:45,539
saying, money comes from different places Mh. So

1588
00:56:45,539 --> 00:56:47,300
the infrastructure build out might not be a

1589
00:56:47,300 --> 00:56:49,300
cost of ours. Running cost might be. It

1590
00:56:49,300 --> 00:56:50,739
depends on how these sorts of things are

1591
00:56:50,739 --> 00:56:51,300
are established.

1592
00:56:51,860 --> 00:56:54,579
But That's the plan. The plan is as

1593
00:56:54,579 --> 00:56:57,916
a simple recap is that we build the

1594
00:56:57,916 --> 00:57:00,299
places, we train the people. We bring in

1595
00:57:00,299 --> 00:57:03,418
the dogs we work cohesive together under 1

1596
00:57:03,418 --> 00:57:04,237
center management

1597
00:57:04,613 --> 00:57:06,785
that make sure the project

1598
00:57:07,241 --> 00:57:11,157
as a whole is successful. Mh. We continue

1599
00:57:11,157 --> 00:57:13,385
to cross level, cross train,

1600
00:57:14,181 --> 00:57:14,419
test,

1601
00:57:15,056 --> 00:57:16,806
adjust, test, adjust,

1602
00:57:17,379 --> 00:57:19,772
go ahead. And at the minimum,

1603
00:57:20,170 --> 00:57:23,760
I think that it would turn Australia from

1604
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:25,195
a place that's like, oh, it can be

1605
00:57:25,195 --> 00:57:26,711
hard to put your hands on the right

1606
00:57:26,711 --> 00:57:26,950
dogs.

1607
00:57:27,524 --> 00:57:29,761
To we'll be exporting dogs. We'd be the

1608
00:57:29,761 --> 00:57:32,157
home. If there was the level of input

1609
00:57:32,157 --> 00:57:33,915
that I want to do with this is

1610
00:57:33,915 --> 00:57:36,875
that not only would we solve our own

1611
00:57:36,875 --> 00:57:39,421
internal problem, we would become vendors to the

1612
00:57:39,421 --> 00:57:40,854
rest of the world for the same thing

1613
00:57:40,854 --> 00:57:43,002
because to my knowledge, there isn't anywhere that

1614
00:57:43,002 --> 00:57:46,212
has a project this big that is being

1615
00:57:46,212 --> 00:57:48,849
run in this way. Just to throw the

1616
00:57:48,849 --> 00:57:51,267
cat amongst the pigeons. Mh. Let's say somebody

1617
00:57:51,406 --> 00:57:53,895
listened to this podcast and said, Great idea.

1618
00:57:54,213 --> 00:57:56,439
Love it. He's 50000000 dollars, but you gotta

1619
00:57:56,439 --> 00:57:57,631
do it offshore. I don't wanna do it

1620
00:57:57,631 --> 00:57:59,698
in Australia. It's not really any point. I'm

1621
00:57:59,698 --> 00:58:02,098
trying to solve our dog problem. Cool. Okay.

1622
00:58:03,052 --> 00:58:05,356
Like 1 whole plugged? Where do they wanna

1623
00:58:05,356 --> 00:58:07,502
do it? Well, it could be the salt

1624
00:58:07,502 --> 00:58:09,329
and the B I might say I'm prepared

1625
00:58:09,329 --> 00:58:11,573
to fund you. Cash is unlimited, but Gonna

1626
00:58:11,573 --> 00:58:13,405
do it in B and eye. Nah, without

1627
00:58:13,405 --> 00:58:15,396
speaking out of school, I've been offered blank

1628
00:58:15,396 --> 00:58:17,308
check jobs around the world. And no. I'm

1629
00:58:17,308 --> 00:58:19,554
not interested. Yep. This is my home. Yeah.

1630
00:58:19,793 --> 00:58:21,868
I agree. Yeah. Or, have been offered blank

1631
00:58:21,868 --> 00:58:24,980
check, but I've offered roles in other countries,

1632
00:58:25,459 --> 00:58:27,468
even though it's suited made in Certain. Yeah.

1633
00:58:27,706 --> 00:58:29,615
So... And I agree, you know, there's no

1634
00:58:29,615 --> 00:58:32,398
place like home. Yeah. Plus with what you're

1635
00:58:32,398 --> 00:58:35,554
talking about, you need to understand the back

1636
00:58:35,754 --> 00:58:37,670
story of who's gonna be brought into it.

1637
00:58:38,068 --> 00:58:39,984
And have that in Australia. That's right. Yeah.

1638
00:58:40,223 --> 00:58:43,416
Whereas if you're starting elsewhere, it's all grassroots.

1639
00:58:43,575 --> 00:58:45,340
Yeah. Yep. And I think, 1 of the

1640
00:58:45,340 --> 00:58:46,713
most important things about this

1641
00:58:47,088 --> 00:58:49,709
is the vision of the success at the

1642
00:58:49,709 --> 00:58:52,251
end. So like, people who don't like each

1643
00:58:52,251 --> 00:58:53,620
other. But if you have the skill set,

1644
00:58:53,779 --> 00:58:55,293
I'm employing you. If you've got the skill

1645
00:58:55,293 --> 00:58:57,126
set, I'm employing you because I need those

1646
00:58:57,126 --> 00:58:59,197
skills. And I'm gonna pay you what you're

1647
00:58:59,197 --> 00:58:59,516
worth,

1648
00:59:00,089 --> 00:59:02,007
to pass those skills onto to other people

1649
00:59:02,007 --> 00:59:04,325
or to help train or perform the function

1650
00:59:04,325 --> 00:59:05,923
that you can train. Like, that's important. I

1651
00:59:05,923 --> 00:59:07,442
think in this is that there's gotta be

1652
00:59:07,442 --> 00:59:09,040
a like, I'm working towards a vision of

1653
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:09,280
this.

1654
00:59:10,014 --> 00:59:10,514
And

1655
00:59:10,892 --> 00:59:13,048
personalities aside, like, I'm getting it done. Mh.

1656
00:59:13,287 --> 00:59:14,804
And money is what solves all of that.

1657
00:59:14,964 --> 00:59:16,800
You know what I mean? Not always. Not

1658
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:18,956
always. But for the most part. Money is

1659
00:59:18,956 --> 00:59:20,721
what solves a lot of those issues. When

1660
00:59:20,721 --> 00:59:21,912
people say, I don't work with that guy

1661
00:59:21,912 --> 00:59:22,865
and you're go, hey, is how much Pay.

1662
00:59:23,024 --> 00:59:25,088
They go, work with them no problem. Right?

1663
00:59:25,882 --> 00:59:27,605
Because we're gonna use people for what they

1664
00:59:27,804 --> 00:59:29,639
provide us. Yep. This is the vision that

1665
00:59:29,718 --> 00:59:31,632
I have for it. Mh. I think it's

1666
00:59:31,632 --> 00:59:33,786
worth pointing out for people who are still

1667
00:59:33,786 --> 00:59:37,295
listening. In Australia, big working dog kennel don't

1668
00:59:37,295 --> 00:59:39,869
exist. There's a few small people trying to

1669
00:59:39,869 --> 00:59:41,309
port it off and they're doing their bits

1670
00:59:41,309 --> 00:59:43,070
and pieces. Yeah Don't have vendors and we

1671
00:59:43,070 --> 00:59:43,809
don't have

1672
00:59:44,110 --> 00:59:45,710
execute. Yeah. You don't have it. It's not

1673
00:59:45,710 --> 00:59:47,722
a big thing. It's not a big viable

1674
00:59:47,722 --> 00:59:49,400
business. Yeah for many reasons,

1675
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:52,117
but to start doing it now, the main

1676
00:59:52,117 --> 00:59:53,889
reason is the cost of the facility. Yep.

1677
00:59:54,128 --> 00:59:55,963
So you won't get a return. Real estate

1678
00:59:55,963 --> 00:59:58,595
in Australia is, like, horrendous expensive. And I

1679
00:59:58,595 --> 00:59:59,073
think

1680
00:59:59,472 --> 01:00:02,583
Metropolitan and Sydney prices are the second highest

1681
01:00:02,583 --> 01:00:04,675
in the world. Yeah. And so the cost

1682
01:00:04,675 --> 01:00:06,355
of the facility, the cost of the wages

1683
01:00:06,355 --> 01:00:07,715
along the way to do it, like it's

1684
01:00:07,715 --> 01:00:10,054
not a viable business. Mh. But

1685
01:00:10,434 --> 01:00:10,835
potentially,

1686
01:00:11,488 --> 01:00:13,314
if when we build it up, like when

1687
01:00:13,314 --> 01:00:16,014
it's running, it could be a profitable business

1688
01:00:16,014 --> 01:00:18,316
to run, but you could not build it

1689
01:00:18,316 --> 01:00:20,141
and recover your costs. That will never happen.

1690
01:00:20,634 --> 01:00:22,224
But if when it were running,

1691
01:00:22,702 --> 01:00:24,134
then we said, okay, we're cutting off your

1692
01:00:24,134 --> 01:00:25,327
funding and you have to make your own

1693
01:00:25,327 --> 01:00:28,599
money, that's viable. If the facility is built.

1694
01:00:28,758 --> 01:00:30,742
The dogs are in. The clients are there

1695
01:00:30,742 --> 01:00:32,883
ready to buy dogs. Yep. It's a viable

1696
01:00:32,883 --> 01:00:35,281
thing to keep running. But what we don't

1697
01:00:35,281 --> 01:00:37,352
have is facilities to do it, What doesn't

1698
01:00:37,352 --> 01:00:39,821
happen in Australia is that police and military

1699
01:00:39,821 --> 01:00:41,892
don't send their handlers out for their handler

1700
01:00:41,892 --> 01:00:44,378
courses. They run them internally. So that changes

1701
01:00:44,378 --> 01:00:47,010
the way that dog work happens and the

1702
01:00:47,010 --> 01:00:49,244
level to which dogs are trained before they're

1703
01:00:49,244 --> 01:00:51,654
sold. That affects that because They don't wanna

1704
01:00:51,654 --> 01:00:53,412
a dog with too much training because the

1705
01:00:53,412 --> 01:00:55,010
handler has to learn to train that dog

1706
01:00:55,010 --> 01:00:57,648
on his course. And so the idea of

1707
01:00:57,648 --> 01:00:59,006
that you train the dog to a standard

1708
01:00:59,006 --> 01:01:00,125
then the handler comes in and you do

1709
01:01:00,125 --> 01:01:02,219
the hand over a 6 week period with

1710
01:01:02,219 --> 01:01:04,140
your handle of course or whatever it is.

1711
01:01:04,619 --> 01:01:06,780
That doesn't happen here like that happens in

1712
01:01:06,780 --> 01:01:08,860
many other places in the world. Yep. We

1713
01:01:08,860 --> 01:01:09,680
don't have

1714
01:01:10,074 --> 01:01:13,135
big schools where you can go and spend

1715
01:01:13,275 --> 01:01:14,074
06:12

1716
01:01:14,074 --> 01:01:16,315
months and get your hands on a ton

1717
01:01:16,315 --> 01:01:17,775
of dogs and be learning

1718
01:01:18,249 --> 01:01:20,246
shit tons along the way. We don't really

1719
01:01:20,246 --> 01:01:22,802
have that, you know, in doing this project,

1720
01:01:23,362 --> 01:01:24,960
the whole dog industry changes.

1721
01:01:25,610 --> 01:01:27,593
It's hyper niche. It is hyper niche because

1722
01:01:27,672 --> 01:01:30,132
I'm talking about the working dog end of

1723
01:01:30,132 --> 01:01:33,248
it. But I promise you if you wanna

1724
01:01:33,248 --> 01:01:35,163
do in home behavior mode, you spend 12

1725
01:01:35,163 --> 01:01:37,079
months at a place like that, you understand

1726
01:01:37,079 --> 01:01:39,393
in home behavior mode better than fucking most

1727
01:01:39,393 --> 01:01:41,962
people out there. You are at accomplished dog

1728
01:01:41,962 --> 01:01:44,992
person. And when you've been getting those kind

1729
01:01:44,992 --> 01:01:46,987
of dogs and training them all day and

1730
01:01:46,987 --> 01:01:48,502
dealing with the issues that come of those

1731
01:01:48,502 --> 01:01:50,017
kind of dogs and all the things that

1732
01:01:50,017 --> 01:01:52,425
we'll be dealing with. You are very accomplished

1733
01:01:52,425 --> 01:01:54,658
dog trainer to then go into work in

1734
01:01:54,658 --> 01:01:57,131
a facility doing board trains or working for

1735
01:01:57,131 --> 01:01:58,726
yourself doing in home behavior model whatever you

1736
01:01:58,726 --> 01:02:00,821
wanna do after that. Mate, I can't

1737
01:02:01,134 --> 01:02:03,928
express, the gratitude I have for people like

1738
01:02:03,928 --> 01:02:05,125
boyd who gave me a leg up in

1739
01:02:05,125 --> 01:02:07,541
the industry by teaching me to teach

1740
01:02:07,919 --> 01:02:10,408
protection and law enforcement dogs. It gave me

1741
01:02:10,408 --> 01:02:13,042
a massive leg up above other people in

1742
01:02:13,042 --> 01:02:15,356
the industry who were doing pet dog training,

1743
01:02:15,755 --> 01:02:17,590
not only did I understand pet dog training,

1744
01:02:17,670 --> 01:02:20,416
but I understood it from multiple different levels

1745
01:02:20,632 --> 01:02:22,464
and applications where I could deal with dogs

1746
01:02:22,464 --> 01:02:24,614
that other people were unprepared to work with,

1747
01:02:25,092 --> 01:02:28,539
wouldn't work with by choice. Or had 0

1748
01:02:28,539 --> 01:02:29,900
skills to be able to execute it.

1749
01:02:30,619 --> 01:02:33,659
Understanding the application of dogs with potential in

1750
01:02:33,659 --> 01:02:33,980
drives,

1751
01:02:34,552 --> 01:02:37,175
sent detection dogs, you're at a massive advantage

1752
01:02:37,175 --> 01:02:39,241
to anybody in the industry because you have

1753
01:02:39,241 --> 01:02:41,568
a skill set unmatched by

1754
01:02:41,879 --> 01:02:44,113
95 percent of the dog training population. Yeah.

1755
01:02:44,512 --> 01:02:46,586
Unmatched for sure. And so they're the people

1756
01:02:46,586 --> 01:02:48,102
that will be churning out and put them

1757
01:02:48,102 --> 01:02:50,028
back into the community. I had my birthday

1758
01:02:50,028 --> 01:02:51,618
the other day. I turned 54 years old.

1759
01:02:52,015 --> 01:02:54,241
Even at my age now, I'm still getting

1760
01:02:54,241 --> 01:02:55,989
cold around the kennel to pull aggressive dogs

1761
01:02:55,989 --> 01:02:57,833
out because the staff that work with them.

1762
01:02:58,072 --> 01:02:59,345
And this is not a b on my

1763
01:02:59,345 --> 01:03:00,697
staff. I'm not having to go with them.

1764
01:03:01,174 --> 01:03:02,765
Some of these people are very new, and

1765
01:03:02,765 --> 01:03:04,214
they shouldn't be touching these dogs and they

1766
01:03:04,214 --> 01:03:05,574
do the right thing, but I'm still pulling

1767
01:03:05,574 --> 01:03:06,775
the dogs out of the kennel for them.

1768
01:03:07,174 --> 01:03:08,454
And this is why I say to people

1769
01:03:08,454 --> 01:03:10,214
when I have a scorn about people in

1770
01:03:10,214 --> 01:03:11,674
the industry who are doing

1771
01:03:12,135 --> 01:03:14,543
aggression consultation work they sit in an office

1772
01:03:14,543 --> 01:03:16,529
talking about it or prescribing meds for the

1773
01:03:16,529 --> 01:03:19,706
dogs, but have no real practical application. This

1774
01:03:19,706 --> 01:03:21,713
would solve that. Yeah. For sure. This would

1775
01:03:21,713 --> 01:03:23,791
absolutely solve that. For sure. The more you're

1776
01:03:23,791 --> 01:03:25,469
talking about this, the more board I am

1777
01:03:25,469 --> 01:03:28,106
with it. There's so many different cool things

1778
01:03:28,106 --> 01:03:28,845
that can come

1779
01:03:29,159 --> 01:03:31,239
Like, you wanna do a a long term

1780
01:03:31,239 --> 01:03:33,400
study on behavioral training and how it goes.

1781
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:37,079
No worries. That's Saying your entire university thesis,

1782
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:39,572
your Phd could be you know, you come

1783
01:03:39,572 --> 01:03:41,427
along from 1 of the

1784
01:03:41,964 --> 01:03:43,718
institutes and say, hey. I've got a team

1785
01:03:43,718 --> 01:03:46,588
of people who wanna study the behavioral analysis

1786
01:03:46,588 --> 01:03:48,913
of these dogs. Yep. And also be able

1787
01:03:48,913 --> 01:03:51,539
to train your staff, run conferences and so

1788
01:03:51,539 --> 01:03:54,165
forth on what they're actually seeing. The entire

1789
01:03:54,165 --> 01:03:56,889
network comes in an internal conference happens where

1790
01:03:56,889 --> 01:03:58,963
we say, hey, We've got the Mit of

1791
01:03:59,043 --> 01:04:02,073
Canine behavior. Yep. Here to present their findings

1792
01:04:02,073 --> 01:04:03,748
to us Like, you... They've been spending the

1793
01:04:03,748 --> 01:04:06,470
last 18 months watching the development of these

1794
01:04:06,470 --> 01:04:07,766
puppies, these females

1795
01:04:08,300 --> 01:04:10,607
along the way, and they're going to upscale

1796
01:04:10,607 --> 01:04:12,294
us in the knowledge of what we're actually

1797
01:04:12,294 --> 01:04:15,489
doing. Yeah. And you could run full long

1798
01:04:15,489 --> 01:04:18,206
term studies on... Okay. Here's a litter of

1799
01:04:18,206 --> 01:04:20,290
dogs. Yep. There's 10 of them. Let's cut

1800
01:04:20,290 --> 01:04:21,322
them into quarters,

1801
01:04:21,957 --> 01:04:22,592
not literally.

1802
01:04:23,069 --> 01:04:24,815
Yeah. Like Yeah. But we then go... Alright.

1803
01:04:25,451 --> 01:04:27,118
These few are gonna be raised with this

1804
01:04:27,118 --> 01:04:27,991
kind of training method.

1805
01:04:28,562 --> 01:04:29,752
These 2 are gonna be raised with this.

1806
01:04:29,911 --> 01:04:31,101
These 2 are gonna be raised with this

1807
01:04:31,101 --> 01:04:32,451
2 years later. Let's see where they're at.

1808
01:04:32,768 --> 01:04:34,356
And we've got the same people training them

1809
01:04:34,356 --> 01:04:36,198
because we've cross loaded these but, like, it's

1810
01:04:36,198 --> 01:04:37,873
not like I'm wed to this as how

1811
01:04:37,953 --> 01:04:39,947
I do things. It's the people who are

1812
01:04:39,947 --> 01:04:42,180
there are like, hey, man, I want this

1813
01:04:42,180 --> 01:04:44,014
to achieve. So if you tell me to

1814
01:04:44,014 --> 01:04:45,704
train these 2 dogs with a particular a

1815
01:04:45,704 --> 01:04:47,379
method, and then these 2 those with a

1816
01:04:47,379 --> 01:04:50,011
different method and see which 1 pans are.

1817
01:04:50,250 --> 01:04:52,483
Yeah. My job is to see how it

1818
01:04:52,483 --> 01:04:54,956
goes, not be successful with either. So I

1819
01:04:54,956 --> 01:04:56,962
don't have a bias as to how this

1820
01:04:56,962 --> 01:04:59,110
pans out. I would want the data so

1821
01:04:59,110 --> 01:05:01,100
that on the next litter of dogs, we

1822
01:05:01,100 --> 01:05:02,373
know the best way to do it. Right?

1823
01:05:02,851 --> 01:05:04,284
And so I think that's the sort of

1824
01:05:04,284 --> 01:05:07,403
data that we don't have. It's invaluable. Yeah.

1825
01:05:07,722 --> 01:05:09,952
That's invaluable. And the scaling of this thing,

1826
01:05:10,032 --> 01:05:11,943
like, I imagine it at the bigger scale,

1827
01:05:12,102 --> 01:05:13,615
and I explained it at the biggest scale.

1828
01:05:13,869 --> 01:05:15,387
But the truth is, even if it were

1829
01:05:15,387 --> 01:05:17,464
just 1 facility, it would still be worthwhile

1830
01:05:17,464 --> 01:05:19,621
doing. Right? Like, even if the phone rings

1831
01:05:19,621 --> 01:05:22,192
and someone says, hey, Pat, I've done the

1832
01:05:22,192 --> 01:05:23,948
actual costing on this. And 30000000 dollars is

1833
01:05:23,948 --> 01:05:25,545
only gonna get you 1 of these places

1834
01:05:25,545 --> 01:05:26,982
and run it for that long. It's still

1835
01:05:26,982 --> 01:05:28,099
worth doing because we can do all the

1836
01:05:28,099 --> 01:05:29,376
same shit. We're just not gonna have as

1837
01:05:29,376 --> 01:05:30,985
much redundancy as if we do it at

1838
01:05:30,985 --> 01:05:32,414
a bigger a scale. Well, you can template

1839
01:05:32,414 --> 01:05:34,320
it too. Like, once you sort of ina

1840
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:36,940
out the kinks, then hopefully, somebody will wanna

1841
01:05:36,940 --> 01:05:39,164
further invest and say, now that you've got

1842
01:05:39,164 --> 01:05:39,664
the

1843
01:05:39,974 --> 01:05:40,474
prototype

1844
01:05:40,849 --> 01:05:43,478
underway. Yep. And you've developed this template. Yep.

1845
01:05:43,956 --> 01:05:46,346
Now you've done that. I'm willing to expand

1846
01:05:46,346 --> 01:05:48,018
it into other state. So you've you've got

1847
01:05:48,018 --> 01:05:50,822
1 in Sydney It's humming along. Yep. Let's

1848
01:05:50,822 --> 01:05:52,654
build another 1 in perth. Yep. Right. And

1849
01:05:52,654 --> 01:05:54,168
so, like, it doesn't have to be a

1850
01:05:54,168 --> 01:05:55,363
all at once. So we can do East

1851
01:05:55,443 --> 01:05:58,326
West. Yep. Yep. But the most important thing

1852
01:05:58,326 --> 01:06:00,818
that I keep coming back to is that

1853
01:06:01,035 --> 01:06:03,346
it has to have a decision maker. There

1854
01:06:03,346 --> 01:06:05,440
has to be a person who is only

1855
01:06:05,497 --> 01:06:07,181
wed to this excess of it. And that's

1856
01:06:07,181 --> 01:06:08,768
why I like, I see this as a

1857
01:06:08,768 --> 01:06:11,308
vision. And again, I wanna explain, like, if

1858
01:06:11,308 --> 01:06:13,689
my phone rang, there's no chances happening. But

1859
01:06:13,689 --> 01:06:15,370
if my phone rang, and so I said,

1860
01:06:15,450 --> 01:06:16,878
hey, I'm back in this thing, but you

1861
01:06:16,878 --> 01:06:18,148
have to run it. I would do it.

1862
01:06:18,465 --> 01:06:20,369
Yeah. But if it went to tender, like,

1863
01:06:20,528 --> 01:06:23,087
if the government decided if somebody in the

1864
01:06:23,087 --> 01:06:24,841
background is working on the... This or a

1865
01:06:24,841 --> 01:06:26,995
better plan, and they're looking for a person

1866
01:06:26,995 --> 01:06:28,590
to run it. I'm not volunteering. Like, I'm

1867
01:06:28,750 --> 01:06:30,345
I'm very happy with what I'm doing, but

1868
01:06:30,345 --> 01:06:32,594
it has to have a head. And it

1869
01:06:32,594 --> 01:06:34,911
has to have a person who makes all

1870
01:06:34,911 --> 01:06:37,728
these decisions and is paid a salary

1871
01:06:38,426 --> 01:06:40,597
regardless of how it goes. Yep. So that

1872
01:06:40,597 --> 01:06:41,953
and doesn't end up on the ray hadley

1873
01:06:41,953 --> 01:06:45,164
show. Yeah. But so their salary is not

1874
01:06:45,223 --> 01:06:46,202
conditional on

1875
01:06:46,579 --> 01:06:49,450
anybody else's influence. It's that they're just working

1876
01:06:49,450 --> 01:06:52,738
towards success, and they're allowed to make decisions

1877
01:06:52,738 --> 01:06:54,814
that assist in doing that. Yep. But may...

1878
01:06:55,053 --> 01:06:56,171
I think that it would be cool. And

1879
01:06:56,171 --> 01:06:57,608
like I say, like, it's a pipe dream.

1880
01:06:57,768 --> 01:06:59,260
It's something that I've had in my mind

1881
01:06:59,299 --> 01:07:01,531
for a long time. I obviously have much

1882
01:07:01,531 --> 01:07:03,523
more sort of detail in my mind than

1883
01:07:03,523 --> 01:07:05,356
we're sort of going into as we waffle

1884
01:07:05,356 --> 01:07:07,524
here, But there needs to be more detail

1885
01:07:07,524 --> 01:07:09,681
put into it. And, yeah. This is just

1886
01:07:09,681 --> 01:07:11,599
this is a high level just sketching it

1887
01:07:11,599 --> 01:07:13,297
out. And every time

1888
01:07:13,677 --> 01:07:14,177
I

1889
01:07:14,635 --> 01:07:17,047
mentioned this, there's always people that sc at

1890
01:07:17,047 --> 01:07:19,364
the money, but then there's other people who

1891
01:07:19,364 --> 01:07:20,962
know what I know about this kind of

1892
01:07:20,962 --> 01:07:23,054
thing that are like, yeah, totally feasible. Like,

1893
01:07:23,213 --> 01:07:24,408
you're in the right place at the right

1894
01:07:24,408 --> 01:07:26,001
time, got the ear of the right person.

1895
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:28,471
Yeah. Totally feasible. But you've seen plenty of

1896
01:07:28,471 --> 01:07:31,339
projects who multiples and multiples of beans are

1897
01:07:31,339 --> 01:07:33,106
being tipped into them. Yep. And like I

1898
01:07:33,106 --> 01:07:34,776
said, it could be a private back that

1899
01:07:34,776 --> 01:07:37,320
just decides Daddy Elon might decide. Yeah. I'm

1900
01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:39,149
up for fixing the dog problem in Australia.

1901
01:07:39,387 --> 01:07:40,603
Right right? But

1902
01:07:41,073 --> 01:07:42,748
then it's real money or as real as

1903
01:07:42,748 --> 01:07:44,264
money can be. Yep. But like I say,

1904
01:07:44,423 --> 01:07:47,055
government infrastructure projects are not real money. That's

1905
01:07:47,055 --> 01:07:49,767
not they're spending money into existence and they're

1906
01:07:49,767 --> 01:07:50,619
fucking doing that

1907
01:07:51,456 --> 01:07:53,766
nonstop all the time every day. You know.

1908
01:07:53,925 --> 01:07:55,757
Let me make something very clear to everybody

1909
01:07:55,757 --> 01:07:57,828
out there. The government's money is our money.

1910
01:07:58,226 --> 01:08:00,152
But it's not even real. So remember Covid,

1911
01:08:00,311 --> 01:08:01,346
Like I can't remember what they did America,

1912
01:08:01,425 --> 01:08:02,619
but remember when they gave us, was it

1913
01:08:02,619 --> 01:08:04,766
900 bucks or something this gave everybody 900

1914
01:08:04,766 --> 01:08:07,805
bucks. Yeah Right? That was the money. They

1915
01:08:07,805 --> 01:08:10,194
didn't get that from somewhere. That didn't have

1916
01:08:10,194 --> 01:08:11,628
to come out of my list. They just

1917
01:08:11,628 --> 01:08:14,495
went... We're making up 9 900 dollars per

1918
01:08:14,495 --> 01:08:17,530
person. Yep. Right? Do that again, but give

1919
01:08:17,530 --> 01:08:19,276
it to me and let me fix the

1920
01:08:19,276 --> 01:08:21,022
dog problem with it. Right? Like, because they're

1921
01:08:21,022 --> 01:08:22,926
doing that shit all the time, the type

1922
01:08:22,926 --> 01:08:24,117
of money that we're talking about,

1923
01:08:24,688 --> 01:08:27,467
is a drop in the ocean. It's 1

1924
01:08:27,467 --> 01:08:28,818
fighter jet. You know what It mean like

1925
01:08:28,897 --> 01:08:30,883
It's yeah. Exactly. These.

1926
01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:34,560
Exactly. You could have the entire dog problem

1927
01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:36,953
fixed to the point where no government agency

1928
01:08:36,953 --> 01:08:38,710
in Australia ever worried about where they get

1929
01:08:38,710 --> 01:08:40,600
their next dog from and that there's there's

1930
01:08:40,798 --> 01:08:42,466
many of them we're exporting and all around

1931
01:08:42,466 --> 01:08:42,863
the world.

1932
01:08:43,498 --> 01:08:45,008
For the cost of a fighter jet. Our

1933
01:08:45,008 --> 01:08:46,279
30 five's has never happened, and we never

1934
01:08:46,279 --> 01:08:48,502
got the 20 twos. But 1 fighter jet,

1935
01:08:49,234 --> 01:08:51,069
we could have the dog problem sold. And

1936
01:08:51,069 --> 01:08:53,783
a fraction of a submarine. Yeah. Yeah. Like

1937
01:08:53,783 --> 01:08:55,539
the snorkel on a submarine. Yeah. 1 of

1938
01:08:55,539 --> 01:08:58,980
the propellers. Yeah. Exactly. Yep. On the upside

1939
01:08:58,980 --> 01:09:01,125
of this, when you're looking at the trade

1940
01:09:01,125 --> 01:09:03,428
off. When anybody's doing the figures in their

1941
01:09:03,428 --> 01:09:05,914
head, what it would do to our

1942
01:09:06,543 --> 01:09:07,202
industry capability

1943
01:09:07,579 --> 01:09:10,611
would be invaluable. Well, it solves the working

1944
01:09:10,611 --> 01:09:12,685
dog problem in all the working dog spaces.

1945
01:09:13,003 --> 01:09:14,439
Not in a short term in the medium

1946
01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:15,635
term. It solves that. Right?

1947
01:09:16,368 --> 01:09:20,273
But again, in the medium term, it upscale

1948
01:09:20,273 --> 01:09:21,011
dog trainers

1949
01:09:21,707 --> 01:09:23,872
incredibly. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. It's we

1950
01:09:23,872 --> 01:09:25,459
don't have to be just shorts sided because

1951
01:09:25,459 --> 01:09:28,180
we've already gone through the upside of every

1952
01:09:28,315 --> 01:09:29,743
little box that it could tick along the

1953
01:09:29,743 --> 01:09:31,251
way. I think we've only just got to

1954
01:09:31,251 --> 01:09:33,172
flesh this out. I mean, obviously, you've been

1955
01:09:33,172 --> 01:09:34,841
meditating on this a lot longer than I

1956
01:09:34,841 --> 01:09:37,565
have because the reason I'm asking all these

1957
01:09:37,622 --> 01:09:39,941
brilliantly placed questions of mine. This is the

1958
01:09:39,941 --> 01:09:41,293
first time we're we haven't yet. We've never

1959
01:09:41,293 --> 01:09:43,519
spoken about. We haven't. Well, we've had other

1960
01:09:43,519 --> 01:09:45,347
than me mentioning it. Yeah. We've had it

1961
01:09:45,347 --> 01:09:47,176
mentioned, but we've never really... I've never had

1962
01:09:47,176 --> 01:09:49,028
it fleshed out before. So

1963
01:09:49,340 --> 01:09:50,640
it's peaking my curiosity.

1964
01:09:51,180 --> 01:09:53,020
And as you're discussing, as you're bringing it

1965
01:09:53,020 --> 01:09:55,340
up, I can start to see the vision

1966
01:09:55,340 --> 01:09:57,260
of the template building out in my head.

1967
01:09:57,500 --> 01:09:59,194
Yeah. So I can see it where it

1968
01:09:59,194 --> 01:10:00,954
could go and the potential reach it could

1969
01:10:00,954 --> 01:10:02,474
have and what it could mean to our

1970
01:10:02,474 --> 01:10:04,074
industry. And as I've said before,

1971
01:10:04,715 --> 01:10:06,809
1 of the things that is very important

1972
01:10:06,809 --> 01:10:09,366
to me is creating legacy. Not about myself.

1973
01:10:09,526 --> 01:10:10,965
It's not about a wrecking a monument in

1974
01:10:10,965 --> 01:10:13,462
my name. It's never gonna happen. But what's

1975
01:10:13,681 --> 01:10:15,440
important to me when I'm on my deathbed.

1976
01:10:16,013 --> 01:10:18,085
I'd love to look back on this. Just

1977
01:10:18,085 --> 01:10:18,722
for myself,

1978
01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:21,113
I had little part in that. I had

1979
01:10:21,113 --> 01:10:23,902
a little part in helping these people achieve

1980
01:10:23,902 --> 01:10:25,909
that, and that was important to me. Like

1981
01:10:26,069 --> 01:10:29,109
I stood for something. Things like this are

1982
01:10:29,109 --> 01:10:31,350
important for your legacy, but it's done for

1983
01:10:31,350 --> 01:10:34,082
the right reasons. It's not done for people's

1984
01:10:34,082 --> 01:10:38,332
un egos. It's done that we're leaving something

1985
01:10:38,470 --> 01:10:40,305
behind for the next generation to say,

1986
01:10:40,879 --> 01:10:42,472
we can make this better. You know, like,

1987
01:10:42,632 --> 01:10:44,703
we can expand on this. And instead of

1988
01:10:44,703 --> 01:10:46,160
us being dis

1989
01:10:46,775 --> 01:10:50,056
and fragmented and having state groups not talking

1990
01:10:50,056 --> 01:10:53,003
to federal groups, we can have everybody talking

1991
01:10:53,003 --> 01:10:55,233
to everyone. Yeah. We're all in on this.

1992
01:10:55,471 --> 01:10:57,951
We are 1 country we're defending our borders,

1993
01:10:58,109 --> 01:10:59,616
we're protecting our citizens,

1994
01:11:00,092 --> 01:11:01,995
This is in the national interest of the

1995
01:11:02,154 --> 01:11:04,612
Australian sovereign and its people. Yeah. For sure.

1996
01:11:05,104 --> 01:11:06,855
I think the vision that I have of

1997
01:11:06,855 --> 01:11:08,289
it too is that each 1 of these

1998
01:11:08,289 --> 01:11:08,789
places

1999
01:11:09,484 --> 01:11:12,590
becomes a mecca in its region. Yeah. So

2000
01:11:12,590 --> 01:11:14,277
you got an agility trial. Have it at

2001
01:11:14,277 --> 01:11:16,027
our place. Right? We've got a whole field

2002
01:11:16,027 --> 01:11:18,253
here. You wanna do some lure course. Yeah.

2003
01:11:18,412 --> 01:11:20,002
This is a dog place. Yeah. It's for

2004
01:11:20,002 --> 01:11:21,752
dog things to happen. Yeah. And so in

2005
01:11:21,752 --> 01:11:23,524
that way, we're we're constantly

2006
01:11:23,914 --> 01:11:26,945
exposing ourselves Yeah. To new information, new people,

2007
01:11:27,184 --> 01:11:27,902
new techniques,

2008
01:11:28,301 --> 01:11:30,614
but people to us Yep. As well. And

2009
01:11:30,614 --> 01:11:32,948
so that's part of my vision for it

2010
01:11:33,007 --> 01:11:35,488
is that the cross leveling of the staff,

2011
01:11:35,726 --> 01:11:38,189
like the staff, the amount of training that

2012
01:11:38,189 --> 01:11:40,890
could go into making sure that not only

2013
01:11:40,890 --> 01:11:42,814
are we got really good trainers at facility,

2014
01:11:42,894 --> 01:11:45,127
but we're continuing to make more of them.

2015
01:11:45,286 --> 01:11:47,838
Yeah. Like we're continuing to upscale people and

2016
01:11:47,838 --> 01:11:50,411
put them out into the community that have

2017
01:11:50,550 --> 01:11:51,927
dealt with real dogs

2018
01:11:52,239 --> 01:11:53,992
and now when someone's got their dog pulling

2019
01:11:53,992 --> 01:11:55,266
him down the street. They're like, oh, it's

2020
01:11:55,266 --> 01:11:57,259
easy. I've fucking working with killers that dragged

2021
01:11:57,259 --> 01:11:59,625
me from the kennel. Or when somebody has

2022
01:11:59,744 --> 01:12:01,265
a dangerous dog that won't come out of

2023
01:12:01,265 --> 01:12:02,625
the channel. They're like, oh, this is Wednesday.

2024
01:12:02,784 --> 01:12:05,685
Like exactly. Exactly right. I have an employee

2025
01:12:06,064 --> 01:12:08,225
that's being accredited through this school. They know

2026
01:12:08,225 --> 01:12:10,544
how to do Yeah. And for argument sake

2027
01:12:10,544 --> 01:12:12,528
the annual justice party have any ethical concerns.

2028
01:12:12,765 --> 01:12:14,431
We'll say, we're addressing all of. We don't

2029
01:12:14,431 --> 01:12:16,416
need to be involved in this because we're

2030
01:12:16,416 --> 01:12:18,021
addressing all of Thank you very much. Yeah.

2031
01:12:18,261 --> 01:12:19,935
Something I agree with you entirely, and I

2032
01:12:19,935 --> 01:12:21,690
hadn't really thought of it was, I think

2033
01:12:21,690 --> 01:12:23,546
having a, like, an ethics

2034
01:12:23,923 --> 01:12:24,582
or a

2035
01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:27,684
oversight person embedded in it. Yeah. We're wanna

2036
01:12:27,684 --> 01:12:29,197
know how we're treating the dolls. Like, we've

2037
01:12:29,197 --> 01:12:30,471
got a person whose job it is to

2038
01:12:30,471 --> 01:12:32,143
report off. He's our ethics manager. You can

2039
01:12:32,143 --> 01:12:33,815
speak to them. They have all the data,

2040
01:12:33,975 --> 01:12:36,863
all the information and total transparency to take

2041
01:12:36,863 --> 01:12:39,760
you through. Yep. Yeah. And that person is

2042
01:12:39,979 --> 01:12:43,335
oversee by me or the other that goes

2043
01:12:43,335 --> 01:12:44,866
like, Hey. I don't wanna see a fucking

2044
01:12:44,866 --> 01:12:47,180
biases in this. Like, I wanna see. This

2045
01:12:47,180 --> 01:12:49,416
is true neutrality. Yeah. You speak the facts.

2046
01:12:49,894 --> 01:12:51,411
There is no left. There is no right.

2047
01:12:51,650 --> 01:12:54,288
This is total neutrality, this is how it

2048
01:12:54,288 --> 01:12:56,514
stands. Yeah. We're just... We're aiming to success

2049
01:12:56,514 --> 01:12:58,659
and nothing else. You're talking the science, not

2050
01:12:58,659 --> 01:13:01,298
the bot science. Yep. So that's it. That's

2051
01:13:01,298 --> 01:13:02,734
my plan. Putting it out in the universe.

2052
01:13:02,894 --> 01:13:04,649
Oh, I when you first brought this up

2053
01:13:04,649 --> 01:13:06,005
to me, it was a couple of years

2054
01:13:06,005 --> 01:13:07,280
ago I think the first time I heard

2055
01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:08,636
the idea of it. I kinda liked it,

2056
01:13:08,716 --> 01:13:10,391
but I kinda thought, to pie in the

2057
01:13:10,391 --> 01:13:10,631
sky.

2058
01:13:11,203 --> 01:13:13,436
There's just no much is. It is, but

2059
01:13:13,595 --> 01:13:15,908
I just kept thinking myself. It's 1 of

2060
01:13:15,908 --> 01:13:17,982
those things that sounds good on paper, but

2061
01:13:17,982 --> 01:13:20,135
just trying to get everybody to agree on

2062
01:13:20,135 --> 01:13:23,037
it. I actually think we're at a time

2063
01:13:23,492 --> 01:13:26,356
where I've seen cohesion happening. Yeah. Like I've

2064
01:13:26,356 --> 01:13:29,164
seen federal and stay and Army all talking

2065
01:13:29,164 --> 01:13:31,244
to each other. Thanks to a few key

2066
01:13:31,244 --> 01:13:31,744
people

2067
01:13:32,125 --> 01:13:34,284
who actually have got together and said, hey,

2068
01:13:34,444 --> 01:13:36,125
we should be mapping this out to Yeah.

2069
01:13:36,697 --> 01:13:38,849
Because of those key people, and those key

2070
01:13:38,849 --> 01:13:40,841
people should actually be involved in this project.

2071
01:13:41,079 --> 01:13:44,302
Yeah. Because they're the people that make sound

2072
01:13:44,438 --> 01:13:46,898
investment in other people's futures, not just their

2073
01:13:46,898 --> 01:13:48,247
own. Yeah. And I think this is the

2074
01:13:48,247 --> 01:13:50,151
beauty of it that if the money is

2075
01:13:50,151 --> 01:13:50,651
allocated,

2076
01:13:51,039 --> 01:13:52,715
and you get people who are like, I

2077
01:13:52,715 --> 01:13:54,551
oppose that. Yep. It's like cool man. You'll

2078
01:13:54,551 --> 01:13:55,907
be left behind. Like, that's what we're doing

2079
01:13:55,907 --> 01:13:57,503
it. We don't need your fucking permission. Yeah.

2080
01:13:57,742 --> 01:13:58,835
And so if you're

2081
01:13:59,435 --> 01:14:01,755
organization, your unit, whatever. It doesn't wanna be

2082
01:14:01,755 --> 01:14:04,074
involved in it. That's fine. Yeah. Fuck off.

2083
01:14:04,314 --> 01:14:05,970
We're doing it, and

2084
01:14:06,329 --> 01:14:08,167
you'll come grove back to us in the

2085
01:14:08,167 --> 01:14:09,685
future, and we'll provide you the dogs then.

2086
01:14:09,845 --> 01:14:11,284
Yeah. But if you don't wanna play at

2087
01:14:11,284 --> 01:14:12,643
the start, that's fine. We don't need you.

2088
01:14:12,882 --> 01:14:14,480
That's what's important about it is the money's

2089
01:14:14,480 --> 01:14:16,494
put there. I don't have to ask anyone

2090
01:14:16,494 --> 01:14:18,814
for help. I can pay the people who

2091
01:14:18,974 --> 01:14:20,654
I need to do the jobs. And I

2092
01:14:20,654 --> 01:14:22,014
know all the right, like, yeah know, Off

2093
01:14:22,014 --> 01:14:24,448
the top of my head, I can name

2094
01:14:24,667 --> 01:14:26,666
most of the people that should be involved

2095
01:14:26,666 --> 01:14:29,703
in this from around Australia. And if I

2096
01:14:29,703 --> 01:14:31,541
have the money, I can pay them enough

2097
01:14:31,541 --> 01:14:33,153
that they will come on onboard. Yep. Right,

2098
01:14:33,232 --> 01:14:34,268
even though they've got their own shit going

2099
01:14:34,268 --> 01:14:35,702
on, but I'm like, hey, man. A salary,

2100
01:14:36,100 --> 01:14:37,534
and it's a salary. You're getting paid that

2101
01:14:37,534 --> 01:14:39,685
every 2 weeks, we're working towards this. Yep.

2102
01:14:40,019 --> 01:14:41,849
People have fucking doing that. If there's some

2103
01:14:41,849 --> 01:14:42,884
obstruction. It's like, I don't think it's a

2104
01:14:42,884 --> 01:14:44,635
good idea. We're like, fuck you. You you

2105
01:14:44,635 --> 01:14:46,148
don't involved then. That's fine. But doing it.

2106
01:14:46,784 --> 01:14:48,871
Anyway? That's my plan. Elon. I know you're

2107
01:14:48,871 --> 01:14:50,546
a Avid listener of the show. He is.

2108
01:14:50,785 --> 01:14:52,380
I heard that. Just sends me a casual

2109
01:14:52,380 --> 01:14:54,135
tweet every now and then and just says,

2110
01:14:54,294 --> 01:14:55,570
love what your boys are doing, keep it

2111
01:14:55,570 --> 01:14:57,106
up. My bigger a concern

2112
01:14:57,499 --> 01:15:00,775
ethically. Yep. Is when you say if somebody

2113
01:15:00,775 --> 01:15:01,914
offers you that money

2114
01:15:02,613 --> 01:15:05,170
overseas, would you do it? And probably not.

2115
01:15:05,824 --> 01:15:07,984
But if there were private backers offering the

2116
01:15:07,984 --> 01:15:09,585
money to do it australia, there'd be some

2117
01:15:09,585 --> 01:15:10,484
concerns over

2118
01:15:10,944 --> 01:15:13,435
who? Well, the concern Am Taken russian money

2119
01:15:13,435 --> 01:15:15,101
to do this. Well, that's a athena sector.

2120
01:15:15,340 --> 01:15:17,268
The the can... And that's why I'm saying

2121
01:15:17,403 --> 01:15:20,100
transparency needs to be disclosed upfront. Yeah. Like

2122
01:15:20,100 --> 01:15:22,418
you can't start this on... Yeah. I think

2123
01:15:22,418 --> 01:15:23,453
that the whole thing would have to be

2124
01:15:23,453 --> 01:15:25,043
open source. It does. Like the books are

2125
01:15:25,043 --> 01:15:26,555
here. It's Google. It's a Google drive. You

2126
01:15:26,555 --> 01:15:27,987
can fucking log in and see it whenever

2127
01:15:27,987 --> 01:15:29,359
you want. This is where we're spending all

2128
01:15:29,359 --> 01:15:30,957
the money. Yeah. I think that would sit

2129
01:15:30,957 --> 01:15:32,794
comfortably with people as long as they couldn't

2130
01:15:32,794 --> 01:15:34,632
find any form of corruption through it. Yeah.

2131
01:15:34,952 --> 01:15:37,283
Unfortunately, we're living in a world where people

2132
01:15:37,283 --> 01:15:38,881
just don't have anything better to do with

2133
01:15:38,881 --> 01:15:40,317
their time other than to look into your

2134
01:15:40,317 --> 01:15:42,632
business. Yeah. And if they can find something

2135
01:15:42,632 --> 01:15:45,106
that's remotely dirty or suspicious or it looks

2136
01:15:45,106 --> 01:15:47,354
like it's been black opt or something like

2137
01:15:47,354 --> 01:15:49,425
that. Yeah. Immediately, it raises a red flag

2138
01:15:49,425 --> 01:15:51,495
and immediately thing all of the... Yeah. We're

2139
01:15:51,495 --> 01:15:53,088
not doing it the. We're fucking resin dogs.

2140
01:15:53,247 --> 01:15:54,601
Yeah. You know what? Like, you could see

2141
01:15:54,601 --> 01:15:56,375
or, like, I know that, but I, like

2142
01:15:56,454 --> 01:15:58,295
I'm saying, you know, like, if suddenly, you

2143
01:15:58,295 --> 01:16:00,694
get 30 to 50000000 dollars,

2144
01:16:01,335 --> 01:16:03,094
I think it's more around 50000000 dollars. That's

2145
01:16:03,094 --> 01:16:04,626
the summer that Okay. I'm sort of doing...

2146
01:16:04,784 --> 01:16:06,531
I'm happy to make a 50... I'm thinking

2147
01:16:06,531 --> 01:16:08,436
50 just to make this plausible with all

2148
01:16:08,436 --> 01:16:10,896
the salaries and with the buy ins and

2149
01:16:10,896 --> 01:16:13,773
the infrastructure and everything like that. It's considerable.

2150
01:16:13,932 --> 01:16:15,768
Mh. But as long as that did come

2151
01:16:15,768 --> 01:16:17,762
through an ethical source, which I suggested before,

2152
01:16:18,162 --> 01:16:20,555
perhaps we could look at crowdfunding funding it

2153
01:16:20,555 --> 01:16:22,645
where everybody's got say in it, then we

2154
01:16:22,645 --> 01:16:23,922
could say it to him well, As a

2155
01:16:23,922 --> 01:16:25,598
reward, we're gonna put on seminar, and all

2156
01:16:25,598 --> 01:16:27,753
the people who did this tier of money,

2157
01:16:28,072 --> 01:16:30,555
you get Vip spot. Like, yeah. Get access

2158
01:16:30,555 --> 01:16:31,667
to it all. Yeah. Get access to it

2159
01:16:31,667 --> 01:16:33,811
all. Like, you're part of our training plan

2160
01:16:33,811 --> 01:16:36,034
going forward. The main thing is wherever the

2161
01:16:36,034 --> 01:16:36,828
money came from,

2162
01:16:37,639 --> 01:16:39,551
You just don't wanna be behold to people.

2163
01:16:39,710 --> 01:16:41,064
So you can see how I'm spending it,

2164
01:16:41,144 --> 01:16:42,578
but you don't have any say house. Yeah.

2165
01:16:42,738 --> 01:16:44,331
Yeah. That's right. They can't put a leash

2166
01:16:44,331 --> 01:16:46,243
around in and then say, well, you got

2167
01:16:46,243 --> 01:16:48,088
my money now you're my Yeah. Yeah. That's

2168
01:16:48,088 --> 01:16:49,361
not how it's gonna get. Can't be like

2169
01:16:49,361 --> 01:16:51,349
that. Yeah. That's why the government stuff never

2170
01:16:51,349 --> 01:16:53,574
worked. There's plenty of government breeding programs there's

2171
01:16:53,574 --> 01:16:55,404
plenty of government facilities that are kinda like

2172
01:16:55,404 --> 01:16:56,619
this, but what there isn't

2173
01:16:57,009 --> 01:16:58,998
is a czar. Yeah. That's in charge of

2174
01:16:58,998 --> 01:17:00,510
it all. That is like, no. Fuck you.

2175
01:17:00,670 --> 01:17:02,181
This is how we're doing it Like, don't

2176
01:17:02,181 --> 01:17:03,216
try and tell me what to do. You

2177
01:17:03,216 --> 01:17:05,298
don't know anything about this. Fuck off being

2178
01:17:05,298 --> 01:17:07,202
counter. Like, I know that one's 3 dollars

2179
01:17:07,202 --> 01:17:09,106
cheaper. I know that widget is 3 dollars

2180
01:17:09,106 --> 01:17:11,248
cheaper than that 1, but you don't understand

2181
01:17:11,248 --> 01:17:13,408
the difference between what those widgets us. I

2182
01:17:13,408 --> 01:17:14,604
don't fucking tell me which 1 to buy.

2183
01:17:14,764 --> 01:17:17,396
Well, that's what happens when investment groups get

2184
01:17:17,396 --> 01:17:19,630
involved on board with a good product because

2185
01:17:19,630 --> 01:17:21,145
they come in and they say, well, now

2186
01:17:21,145 --> 01:17:22,715
that we're on board and now we have

2187
01:17:22,913 --> 01:17:25,459
shareholders money involved in this. Now you have

2188
01:17:25,459 --> 01:17:27,948
to find a much cheaper way Yeah producing

2189
01:17:28,084 --> 01:17:30,311
the same product, and we don't care if

2190
01:17:30,311 --> 01:17:32,398
the standard goes down. We just need it

2191
01:17:32,398 --> 01:17:33,994
done cheaper so we can see more return.

2192
01:17:34,234 --> 01:17:36,309
That's what happens say throughout the army for

2193
01:17:36,309 --> 01:17:38,385
sure. So everywhere, man. Take for example, Like

2194
01:17:38,385 --> 01:17:39,502
think things having to go to tinder and

2195
01:17:39,502 --> 01:17:41,506
stuff in government. So have to choose my

2196
01:17:41,506 --> 01:17:44,204
words carefully. But a long time ago, we

2197
01:17:44,204 --> 01:17:46,427
bought D. It's where you can just buy

2198
01:17:46,427 --> 01:17:48,587
stuff off the shelf. Right? Yep. The problem

2199
01:17:48,587 --> 01:17:50,416
with the military buying stuff off the shelf

2200
01:17:50,416 --> 01:17:52,484
is it's not in the system then. Right?

2201
01:17:52,723 --> 01:17:54,632
So you can't get replacement parts. You can't

2202
01:17:54,632 --> 01:17:55,746
get that kind of stuff like we bought

2203
01:17:55,746 --> 01:17:57,908
hundred kits of it. And we've just got

2204
01:17:57,908 --> 01:17:59,976
a hundred kits. Whereas usually in the military,

2205
01:18:00,056 --> 01:18:01,329
if you want a hundred kits of it,

2206
01:18:01,488 --> 01:18:03,716
you need, like, 500 kits of it because

2207
01:18:03,716 --> 01:18:05,148
people will break it, it needs to be

2208
01:18:05,148 --> 01:18:07,229
replaceable, gotta issue it to new people that

2209
01:18:07,229 --> 01:18:08,501
come in, all that kind of stuff. Right?

2210
01:18:08,659 --> 01:18:10,169
Yep. So then it goes onto to, like,

2211
01:18:10,248 --> 01:18:12,314
the block scales, which is where it's got

2212
01:18:12,314 --> 01:18:13,983
a a number and it can be ordered,

2213
01:18:14,141 --> 01:18:16,309
and then keep a certain number of them

2214
01:18:16,309 --> 01:18:18,223
on the shelf at all time ready to

2215
01:18:18,223 --> 01:18:21,254
go to replacement things. But what especially happens

2216
01:18:21,254 --> 01:18:22,690
in special forces is we get a lot

2217
01:18:22,690 --> 01:18:23,886
of what they call Do for or you

2218
01:18:23,886 --> 01:18:26,055
just buy it. Right? Yep. But years ago,

2219
01:18:26,215 --> 01:18:27,572
we bought a particular type of body armor,

2220
01:18:27,811 --> 01:18:29,487
and we just fitted out 1... I think

2221
01:18:29,487 --> 01:18:31,322
it was just a platoon initially, like, 30

2222
01:18:31,322 --> 01:18:33,594
guys got kid out with this fucking really

2223
01:18:33,654 --> 01:18:35,571
slick body armor. And it wasn't even the

2224
01:18:35,571 --> 01:18:37,328
plates. It was just the carriage of it.

2225
01:18:37,568 --> 01:18:39,485
Yep. And then we're like, we want this.

2226
01:18:39,979 --> 01:18:41,738
But it has to go to tinder. And

2227
01:18:41,738 --> 01:18:43,495
so then they go, okay. But you can't

2228
01:18:43,495 --> 01:18:45,893
say you want that brand. You have to

2229
01:18:45,893 --> 01:18:47,411
tell us what it is you want,

2230
01:18:48,131 --> 01:18:51,671
describe it. And anybody who meets that description

2231
01:18:52,285 --> 01:18:55,069
at the lowest price is gonna be the

2232
01:18:55,069 --> 01:18:56,995
provider of it. What we ended up with

2233
01:18:56,995 --> 01:19:00,104
was this fucking dog shit version. Why is

2234
01:19:00,104 --> 01:19:01,619
that? Because that's how the government system works.

2235
01:19:01,859 --> 01:19:03,453
Right? So... And that's to avoid corruption and

2236
01:19:03,453 --> 01:19:05,619
all kinds of stuff. But that's what slows

2237
01:19:05,619 --> 01:19:07,770
things down and avoids. And if there's an

2238
01:19:07,929 --> 01:19:10,001
Australian vendor of a product, you cannot buy

2239
01:19:10,001 --> 01:19:11,354
it. Oh, fuck, I don't even know where

2240
01:19:11,354 --> 01:19:12,470
that law is. But that is a law.

2241
01:19:12,630 --> 01:19:13,506
That if there's an Australian,

2242
01:19:14,078 --> 01:19:16,788
vendor of a foreign product, you have to

2243
01:19:16,788 --> 01:19:18,462
buy from that Australian vendor. You can't go

2244
01:19:18,462 --> 01:19:20,774
around them directly to the manufacturer. I don't

2245
01:19:20,774 --> 01:19:23,820
mind that. Yeah. As long as the australian

2246
01:19:23,820 --> 01:19:26,772
vendor can provide you with... Yeah. Have I

2247
01:19:26,772 --> 01:19:27,889
ever told you the story of,

2248
01:19:28,607 --> 01:19:30,533
Aqua terra and how they started. Who's aqua?

2249
01:19:30,771 --> 01:19:33,154
Aqua terra is gun runners in the country.

2250
01:19:33,551 --> 01:19:35,696
There's really 2. There's Na and there's Aqua

2251
01:19:35,696 --> 01:19:38,420
terra. So they're the biggest companies that import

2252
01:19:38,715 --> 01:19:40,961
military equipment. Right? So, like guns and stuff

2253
01:19:40,961 --> 01:19:41,280
like that.

2254
01:19:41,998 --> 01:19:44,952
Aqua terra, now this is tenth hand. The

2255
01:19:44,952 --> 01:19:46,627
guy that owned that was had a little

2256
01:19:46,627 --> 01:19:49,907
sale repair shop in Lo. And you could

2257
01:19:49,907 --> 01:19:51,815
stop in, get your sales repaired and away

2258
01:19:51,815 --> 01:19:53,881
you go. So 1 day, this guy comes

2259
01:19:53,881 --> 01:19:56,838
in, getting your sales repaired. And while he's

2260
01:19:56,838 --> 01:19:58,350
waiting for his sales to be repaired. He's

2261
01:19:58,350 --> 01:19:59,545
like, hey, What's that on the wall. And

2262
01:19:59,545 --> 01:20:01,216
he goes, oh, that's called a mustang survival

2263
01:20:01,216 --> 01:20:02,807
suit. Yeah. What is it? He as well.

2264
01:20:02,966 --> 01:20:06,085
It's a fucking, like, dry suit. That is

2265
01:20:06,085 --> 01:20:10,220
designed to survive in arctic temperatures with. They're

2266
01:20:10,220 --> 01:20:12,685
crazy expensive. They're like 10000 dollars each I've

2267
01:20:12,685 --> 01:20:14,771
got that 1. I'm aware of it because

2268
01:20:14,930 --> 01:20:17,162
I'm, you know, into it, and I know

2269
01:20:17,162 --> 01:20:19,235
the guys at Mustang who have made that

2270
01:20:19,235 --> 01:20:21,468
thing, and I've got this 1 here. So

2271
01:20:21,468 --> 01:20:22,207
this gentleman

2272
01:20:22,679 --> 01:20:24,753
says, oh, that's interesting. I'll take it. So

2273
01:20:24,753 --> 01:20:26,270
while he's sitting there getting his sales repaired,

2274
01:20:26,430 --> 01:20:28,823
he buys it. Was Tony Bo. And so

2275
01:20:28,823 --> 01:20:30,340
when he caps in Antarctica,

2276
01:20:30,754 --> 01:20:33,143
the rules around the rescue in Antarctica, If

2277
01:20:33,143 --> 01:20:34,178
you're in the water for more than 24

2278
01:20:34,178 --> 01:20:35,851
hours you're dead. Alright? Like, there's no way

2279
01:20:35,851 --> 01:20:38,240
you're surviving. So when the navy got there

2280
01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:39,037
6 days later,

2281
01:20:39,689 --> 01:20:42,072
to rescue him. They're expecting to find his

2282
01:20:42,072 --> 01:20:43,899
frozen fucking corpse and what they find is

2283
01:20:43,899 --> 01:20:46,932
him, alive in his mustang survival suit. So

2284
01:20:46,932 --> 01:20:49,179
the navy decide we have to figure out

2285
01:20:49,235 --> 01:20:51,537
everybody in these mustang well. They call mustang

2286
01:20:51,537 --> 01:20:53,864
and say, hey, we need 50000

2287
01:20:53,920 --> 01:20:54,658
of these

2288
01:20:54,967 --> 01:20:57,029
suits to fit out on all the ships,

2289
01:20:57,186 --> 01:20:58,851
and they, no, we've got an australian distributor.

2290
01:20:59,248 --> 01:21:00,595
You have to talk to him.

2291
01:21:01,309 --> 01:21:03,072
He's guy made a phone call. Yep. Ed

2292
01:21:03,072 --> 01:21:05,385
fog bought these suits at in Navy. Now

2293
01:21:05,385 --> 01:21:06,821
that could be a butcher story. Right? Like,

2294
01:21:06,980 --> 01:21:08,655
that's tenth hand Heard that story. But that's

2295
01:21:08,655 --> 01:21:09,931
how you got into the business of selling

2296
01:21:09,931 --> 01:21:11,127
stuff in this military because he's like, you

2297
01:21:11,127 --> 01:21:13,685
guys want anything else. It's this doesn't fucking

2298
01:21:13,685 --> 01:21:14,557
done of money of me.

2299
01:21:15,350 --> 01:21:17,015
Anyway, alright. We guess should go train of

2300
01:21:17,015 --> 01:21:19,472
dogs. Yeah. I like the plan and hopefully,

2301
01:21:19,964 --> 01:21:22,503
somebody will tinker around this inside the head.

2302
01:21:22,662 --> 01:21:24,804
Yeah. Maybe value in it or not or

2303
01:21:24,804 --> 01:21:26,867
not, but I'm ready. It certainly looks that

2304
01:21:26,867 --> 01:21:28,786
way. Need just probably another 6 months to

2305
01:21:28,786 --> 01:21:31,483
finish online course that I'm doing then I

2306
01:21:31,483 --> 01:21:33,386
can change to this. I really would like

2307
01:21:33,386 --> 01:21:34,894
to get that body of work done. Yeah.

2308
01:21:35,131 --> 01:21:36,819
But after that, I can change to this

2309
01:21:36,819 --> 01:21:40,006
if you'd be. Alright. Hey? That's it. For

2310
01:21:40,006 --> 01:21:41,997
another episode. Can Paradigm. Yeah. You did. Made

2311
01:21:41,997 --> 01:21:43,193
it to the end. We did. Good for

2312
01:21:43,193 --> 01:21:44,706
you. Yeah. You listened all the way through.

2313
01:21:45,198 --> 01:21:46,794
Yeah. I just wanna give a big shout

2314
01:21:46,794 --> 01:21:48,549
out for the episode we did last week.

2315
01:21:48,788 --> 01:21:50,384
Oh, yeah. I know that it was a

2316
01:21:50,384 --> 01:21:52,457
little bit convoluted and it went all around

2317
01:21:52,457 --> 01:21:54,212
the world and then came back a couple

2318
01:21:54,212 --> 01:21:55,899
of times. A bit like this 1. A

2319
01:21:55,899 --> 01:21:57,489
bit like this 1. It frustrated a few

2320
01:21:57,489 --> 01:21:59,103
people. I know that, but it also

2321
01:21:59,478 --> 01:22:01,863
gave me the scope to have some very

2322
01:22:01,863 --> 01:22:03,946
interesting conversations of people. As I said to

2323
01:22:03,946 --> 01:22:05,139
you, and I alluded to you in a

2324
01:22:05,139 --> 01:22:05,457
message.

2325
01:22:06,014 --> 01:22:08,240
It's give me the most reach to people

2326
01:22:08,240 --> 01:22:10,149
that don't feel confident in talking about this.

2327
01:22:10,307 --> 01:22:11,978
Mh. It was like therapy for me to

2328
01:22:11,978 --> 01:22:14,225
be honest, dumping that off my chest,

2329
01:22:14,945 --> 01:22:16,784
made me feel like I've just gotten rid

2330
01:22:16,784 --> 01:22:18,305
of a a burden that I've been carrying

2331
01:22:18,305 --> 01:22:20,225
around for a long time. Mh. And having

2332
01:22:20,225 --> 01:22:23,192
those humbling conversations with people. Thank you very

2333
01:22:23,192 --> 01:22:25,266
much by the way, for trusting me with

2334
01:22:25,266 --> 01:22:27,579
that confidence as well. Hopefully, you too will

2335
01:22:27,579 --> 01:22:29,573
be able to escape some of the prejudice

2336
01:22:29,573 --> 01:22:30,551
that you're feeling

2337
01:22:30,944 --> 01:22:33,731
I'm talking both vaccinated un vaccinated people who

2338
01:22:33,731 --> 01:22:35,961
were talking about the Covid thing in itself.

2339
01:22:36,279 --> 01:22:38,828
Not only that, but also not bought into,

2340
01:22:38,988 --> 01:22:42,603
but under stands my concerns and the long

2341
01:22:42,659 --> 01:22:44,805
reaching effect of what I think is a

2342
01:22:44,805 --> 01:22:48,484
greater problem with pharmaceutical companies meddling into

2343
01:22:49,113 --> 01:22:51,659
field. Mh. Some people said they found it

2344
01:22:51,659 --> 01:22:54,365
frustrating. Some people didn't understand the concept of

2345
01:22:54,365 --> 01:22:56,849
it, but also a majority of people said,

2346
01:22:57,090 --> 01:22:59,010
it's very plausible when you play it out.

2347
01:22:59,409 --> 01:23:01,250
And when you think deeply into it. And

2348
01:23:01,329 --> 01:23:02,369
I said, unfortunately,

2349
01:23:02,770 --> 01:23:04,770
that's where my mind went, and that's where

2350
01:23:04,849 --> 01:23:06,217
I spend a lot of the time doing

2351
01:23:06,217 --> 01:23:08,046
it. But anyway, I'm not gonna rehash the

2352
01:23:08,046 --> 01:23:08,546
whole

2353
01:23:08,921 --> 01:23:10,274
episode if you wanna go back and listen

2354
01:23:10,274 --> 01:23:11,887
to it. I know we never really

2355
01:23:12,439 --> 01:23:14,514
concluded anything of it because there is nothing

2356
01:23:14,514 --> 01:23:16,611
that I can conclude on it. It's only

2357
01:23:16,750 --> 01:23:17,250
a

2358
01:23:17,947 --> 01:23:20,422
suspicion. As I've alluded to before, I'm a

2359
01:23:20,422 --> 01:23:21,140
suspicious motherfucker.

2360
01:23:21,793 --> 01:23:24,923
I've been made that type of person from

2361
01:23:25,379 --> 01:23:27,689
interactions with my step father upward. It shaped

2362
01:23:27,689 --> 01:23:30,256
me into this person. I've become suspicious of

2363
01:23:30,256 --> 01:23:32,412
people, and then I'd become suspicious of things

2364
01:23:32,412 --> 01:23:34,088
in the industry and things in my life.

2365
01:23:34,327 --> 01:23:36,722
And it's not that I'm constantly waiting for

2366
01:23:36,722 --> 01:23:39,365
people to disappoint me. It's just that it

2367
01:23:39,365 --> 01:23:42,067
has given me a sense of I need

2368
01:23:42,067 --> 01:23:43,895
to see how things play out. Mh. I

2369
01:23:43,895 --> 01:23:46,935
need to look beyond the storefront or the

2370
01:23:46,935 --> 01:23:49,169
racket that's being presented to me. I think

2371
01:23:49,169 --> 01:23:50,605
in life, a lot of times what people

2372
01:23:50,605 --> 01:23:52,280
do is they play out a racket to

2373
01:23:52,280 --> 01:23:54,530
you. And then behind the storefront is the

2374
01:23:54,530 --> 01:23:56,605
real dealings of what's going on behind. So

2375
01:23:56,605 --> 01:23:58,760
in the back room, that's where the honesty

2376
01:23:58,760 --> 01:24:00,756
lies. And that's where I try and look

2377
01:24:00,756 --> 01:24:02,601
into in people that I deal with in

2378
01:24:02,601 --> 01:24:04,431
our businesses that I'm dealing with and so

2379
01:24:04,431 --> 01:24:06,101
forth is what's happening in that back room?

2380
01:24:06,261 --> 01:24:08,225
Mh. What's that back room discussion

2381
01:24:08,822 --> 01:24:11,608
forgive me if immediately, I push you away

2382
01:24:11,608 --> 01:24:13,279
sometimes, that's a sort of person I am.

2383
01:24:13,597 --> 01:24:15,189
I give a little bit of pushback because

2384
01:24:15,348 --> 01:24:16,701
I wanna know that I'm dealing with a

2385
01:24:16,701 --> 01:24:19,189
real person and not just somebody who's trying

2386
01:24:19,189 --> 01:24:21,270
to pitch something To or get something from

2387
01:24:21,270 --> 01:24:22,710
me. I need to know... Do I have

2388
01:24:22,710 --> 01:24:25,189
a friend here? Or is this a business

2389
01:24:25,189 --> 01:24:27,364
dealing? Because when I let my guard down

2390
01:24:27,364 --> 01:24:28,085
and I realized,

2391
01:24:28,564 --> 01:24:30,085
I thought you're my friend and this was

2392
01:24:30,085 --> 01:24:32,244
just a business dealing. It's fucking hurt me

2393
01:24:32,244 --> 01:24:34,085
to no end. Mh. That's my problem.

2394
01:24:34,659 --> 01:24:37,460
But that's what shaped me into that suspicious

2395
01:24:37,460 --> 01:24:39,719
person I'm talking about. I'm also

2396
01:24:40,020 --> 01:24:42,420
afraid for our industry genuinely afraid for our

2397
01:24:42,420 --> 01:24:43,994
industry when I think there's a higher power

2398
01:24:44,194 --> 01:24:46,338
playing with this like where, mh battery hen,

2399
01:24:46,577 --> 01:24:48,404
bread toe lay eggs for them. You know

2400
01:24:48,404 --> 01:24:49,993
what it would solve that problem? What's that?

2401
01:24:50,310 --> 01:24:53,265
My project to. Yeah. I agree. I agree.

2402
01:24:53,503 --> 01:24:55,569
I'm in agreeing with that. That's why I'm

2403
01:24:55,569 --> 01:24:57,000
interested in it, and I think it was

2404
01:24:57,000 --> 01:24:58,510
timely, and I think it was the right

2405
01:24:58,510 --> 01:25:00,670
time to talk about it because I really

2406
01:25:00,670 --> 01:25:02,895
feel that this would address a lot of

2407
01:25:02,895 --> 01:25:04,484
our problems and a lot of the meddling

2408
01:25:04,484 --> 01:25:06,470
that's going on and would also expose them

2409
01:25:06,470 --> 01:25:07,027
along the way.

2410
01:25:07,599 --> 01:25:08,800
Without us having to do it that they

2411
01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:12,000
would expose themselves and that's it for another

2412
01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:12,399
conspiracy.

2413
01:25:13,920 --> 01:25:16,087
That's it for episode Paradigm. Yep. As always,

2414
01:25:16,167 --> 01:25:17,519
if you like what we're hear, like Share

2415
01:25:17,519 --> 01:25:19,746
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2416
01:25:19,746 --> 01:25:21,416
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2417
01:25:21,416 --> 01:25:23,960
to do that is Patreon, jump to Patreon,

2418
01:25:24,119 --> 01:25:25,810
you can give us few bucks a month

2419
01:25:25,810 --> 01:25:27,570
that'll get you some cool stuff in there.

2420
01:25:28,050 --> 01:25:30,850
I have fixed an outing issue interestingly with

2421
01:25:30,850 --> 01:25:32,130
a dog the other day, and I'm about

2422
01:25:32,130 --> 01:25:33,729
to put that into Patreon and I believe.

2423
01:25:34,304 --> 01:25:36,063
So that'll be there. Why, I should. You

2424
01:25:36,063 --> 01:25:37,661
could get in a spring. Links are in

2425
01:25:37,661 --> 01:25:39,899
the show notes. Same as patreon. The links

2426
01:25:39,899 --> 01:25:41,177
are in the show notes. So wherever you're

2427
01:25:41,177 --> 01:25:42,376
listening to us. Click on 1 of those.

2428
01:25:42,536 --> 01:25:44,941
That imagine thing. If we get this facility,

2429
01:25:45,179 --> 01:25:46,848
how much space will have for tapestry? Oh,

2430
01:25:46,927 --> 01:25:49,154
it'd be tapestry whatever. Everywhere. Yeah. Yeah. That'll

2431
01:25:49,154 --> 01:25:50,425
be how we get accused the corruption.

2432
01:25:51,475 --> 01:25:53,335
Right. How much money to just spend on

2433
01:25:53,715 --> 01:25:54,835
paradigm da trees.

2434
01:25:55,395 --> 01:25:57,074
You make 8 dollars off of each 1.

2435
01:25:57,395 --> 01:25:58,649
Fucking hell you've made

2436
01:25:59,009 --> 01:26:00,225
16 dollars

2437
01:26:01,559 --> 01:26:01,878
corruption.

2438
01:26:04,110 --> 01:26:05,624
So do that. Yep. If you wanna get

2439
01:26:05,624 --> 01:26:06,581
in touch with this best way to do

2440
01:26:06,581 --> 01:26:08,992
that is jump into the Facebook discussion group.

2441
01:26:09,231 --> 01:26:11,389
Mh. Even though Facebook's a weird place, we

2442
01:26:11,389 --> 01:26:13,146
seem to be holding onto to people there.

2443
01:26:13,305 --> 01:26:17,076
We're engaged. We're having nice conversations. Nobody's tear

2444
01:26:17,076 --> 01:26:19,633
anybody apart. Or keeping our conspiracy theories to

2445
01:26:19,633 --> 01:26:21,470
a minimum in there, although we do it

2446
01:26:21,470 --> 01:26:23,003
a little bit. But if you're wanna get

2447
01:26:23,003 --> 01:26:24,521
in contact with us directly, you could shoot

2448
01:26:24,521 --> 01:26:26,837
us an email. We are info at the

2449
01:26:26,837 --> 01:26:28,515
canine paradigm dot com,

2450
01:26:29,168 --> 01:26:30,677
If you wanna tell me about how to

2451
01:26:30,677 --> 01:26:32,108
get this money to build facility, you shoot

2452
01:26:32,108 --> 01:26:33,935
me an email to Pat Seriously on this

2453
01:26:33,935 --> 01:26:35,445
amazon. I'm just trying to work out the

2454
01:26:35,524 --> 01:26:35,842
Math,

2455
01:26:36,414 --> 01:26:38,574
So we've got 10000 listeners in here, all

2456
01:26:38,574 --> 01:26:39,694
you have to do is crowd fund us

2457
01:26:39,694 --> 01:26:41,694
with 5000 dollars each. It's done. Yeah.

2458
01:26:42,335 --> 01:26:42,494
Okay.

2459
01:26:43,774 --> 01:26:43,935
Okay.

2460
01:26:45,225 --> 01:26:46,895
There might be might be a bit of

2461
01:26:46,895 --> 01:26:48,804
a rate Yeah might be too tall and

2462
01:26:48,804 --> 01:26:51,905
ask of everybody that's listening? Yep. Robert Group.

2463
01:26:52,064 --> 01:26:52,780
Where are you on this?

2464
01:26:56,685 --> 01:26:58,350
But you never know. You never. You never

2465
01:26:58,350 --> 01:26:59,619
know. Alright. Love you. Bye. Bye.