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Hello, kitties. It's your old pal John Kaseer,

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the voice of the Cryptkeeper.

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And you're listening to

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the bottom shelf.

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I can't do it, Dallas. Play another round

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of street fighter with me? Look, I know

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you're not good at these games. No. No.

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No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No.

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No. I mean well, I mean, it's street

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fighter Jason, I suppose.

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No, I, I, I can't, I know we're,

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I know I said we need to figure

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out why these movies are in the dumpster,

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but I think we figured out in the

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last

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episode.

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I feel like there's a force compelling us

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to watch these. Like there's, they're trying to

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make us realize Dallas. Do you know what

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else I found down down down there, Dallas?

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Cookies?

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Suburban commando. What the crap? Bro. Why is

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this down there? That was a great Bro.

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There's something go there's something going on.

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Prepare yourself to discover a world of terrible

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movies.

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High above the planet Geekeri, a group of

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intrepid explorers

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hover over the dangerous planet in their fabulous

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super orbital spacecraft.

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Their mission, to conduct a complete analysis of

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movies known throughout the universe as terrible.

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So grab your space popcorn, grab your freeze

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dried ice cream, and join us for today's

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mission of discovery and wonder.

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Are these movies better than the galaxy thinks?

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Or do they really belong

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on the bottom shelf?

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Hello, everybody. Welcome movie lovers and movie haters.

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And welcome to the bottom shelf where every

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movie has a place. So my name is

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John and I am joined with the man,

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the myth, the legend,

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the 8 living wonder of the world.

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Dallas

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Mora. How you doing? I'm not sure about

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that last one, but how are you doing

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buddy? I'm doing all right. I'm just trying

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to hype you up. I appreciate it. I

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feel like we need to be hyped up

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after the last episode,

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bro. I don't know that I can do

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this again. I don't, I don't know that

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I can

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roast my childhood

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a second time. And this one was, this

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one was my jam. Like for real back

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in the day, the 2 big conversations

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in my neighborhood that I grew up on

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was 1. Well, first of all, it was

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Freddy versus Jason. Like, who who who was

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who could beat who? That was the prime

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that was the primary

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eighties argument I that I can remember.

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Were you into kickboxer or were you into

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blood sport?

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Oh, so this is like a a Star

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Wars, Star Trek thing? This is a Coke

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versus Pepsi. Our Wow. From my social circles

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in in elementary school. RC Cola, man. Well,

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you probably voted for Perot then, didn't you?

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Hercule Pero. Hello, everybody. Hello. Today, we're gonna

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talk, what are we talking about Dallas? We're

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so we are so just we're doing it

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again. We're talking about everything, but the movie

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and we haven't even watched this movie yet.

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Oh my gosh. Well, you pulled out a

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movie called kickboxer.

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So let me look at the database here.

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It says kickboxer

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1 year after producing bloodsport, mark disal,

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disalily,

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disalily

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decided to team up with Jean Claude Van

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Damme to purposefully tell a fictional martial arts

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story this time,

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starting starring a plethora of actors who cameoed

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everywhere else later, including Mario Lopez at home,

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Denis Alexio.

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Kickspot Kickboxer tells the story of how one

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man brought Muay Thai to the world through

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the power of cultural appropriation,

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especially in his later sequel apparently.

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This is a Wow, dude.

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That's so everybody Dallas told me he had

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these written up and he flat out told

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me, do not read them until we read

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them on the show. I want you to

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be surprised.

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Surprised is a word.

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So is shocked.

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Oh my gosh. Let me read the back

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of the box of this movie real quick.

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With the help of his brother and trainer,

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Kirk Van Dam, American kickboxing champion, Eric slow,

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Dennis Alexio arrives in Thailand to defeat the

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eastern warrior of the at their own sport.

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And his opponent, a ruthless fighter from and

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Thai champion, Tong Po,

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not only defeats Eric, but brutally delivers

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a series of illegal blows that which paralyze

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him for life.

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Crazed with anger, Kurt vows revenge at any

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cost, but first, he must learn the ancient

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techniques of kickboxing

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from Thai master

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Xianzhou.

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only comfort

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is the company of his master's niece, Mai

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Li. Hoping to disrupt Kurt's training, Tong Po

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abducts the innocent girl, ambitiously assaults her. Kurt

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delivers believing he is ready to meet Tong

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Po in the ring, challenge the champion who

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agrees on one condition. They must do battle

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in the ancient manner with fists found in

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rope and covered in broken glass. Their battle

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to the finish born of lust, power, and

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revenge will leave

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one man standing. Did they just give us

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the whole movie?

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Seriously. That sounds like we just got a

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book report. I like for real, like, okay.

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Like this is the actual review from the

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back. Like this is the back of the

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box, legitimately back of the, but we're not

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making this stuff up guys. Did they just

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give us the whole movie? Yeah. They

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kind of did. Like,

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I mean, should we have saved the back

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of the box for the spoiler section? Yes.

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I mean, all that's really left is the

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result of the end fight at this juncture.

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And it's Jean Claude. He won't allow himself

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to be defeated. Right.

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Jean Claude Van Damme thinks that he's Chuck

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Norris. Alright. Well, guys, thank you for joining

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us for the bottom shelf this week. I

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guess let's give it its due process.

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The eighties were wild with the back of

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these boxes, man. Yo.

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Alright. So trivia,

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this was actually the

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are these both correct, Dallas? I think these

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are leftover.

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Yeah. Those are leftover from you. Okay. Last

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time, yeah. I wanted to double check. I

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don't remember Rowdy Piper being in this movie.

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check. Alright. Here we go. Coming back in.

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Alright. So trivia here, we have

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Dennis Alexio who plays Eric Sloan,

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was the world lightweight,

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no world light heavyweight

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and world cruiserweight kickboxing champion in real life

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when they did this movie. Wow. No kidding.

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Yeah. So they got some royalty in here.

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The scene in which Kurt

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has meat tied to his leg and is

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chased by,

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Jian Chow's dog

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was inspired by a real life event in

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which young JCVD

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was ordered by his karate teacher to wear

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a productive suit and withstand attempts of a

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trained dog to pull him to the ground.

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The title held by Dennis Alexio's character in

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the movie, the International

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Sport Karate Association

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Heavyweight Championship

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is a real champion championship

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and has been held by Alexio during his

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fighting career. The belt in the movie, however,

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was not modeled after the actual belt. Okay.

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think these kind of build off of each

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other.

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Tong Po is mistakenly

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billed as playing himself during the film's credits.

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for this film and its sequel Kickboxer 2

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The Road back in 1991.

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and Kissey can be seen in 3 other

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JCVD movies along with, Lionheart

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in 2016,

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which right before the, we started recording Dallas

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and I just discovered,

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reboot of the kickboxer movie.

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that out, I guess. I don't know. I

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can't recommend it. I haven't seen it.

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fighter that gets his leg broken by Chang

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Lee.

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the guy who plays Tong Po is actually

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in this movie.

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Kiese plays,

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Mustafa

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alongside with another legionnaire who's trying to bring

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lion back from America

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Back to Africa in kickbox or vengeance, a

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remake of this movie.

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Casey has a brief in joke cameo as

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a prisoner who remarks you forgot about me

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as Van Dam walked past his cell. And

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then finally, Michael Casey was the technical advisor

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and choreographer when he overheard the production crew

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say they were looking for a tall, oriental

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looking guy with a background in Muay Thai.

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and got the part of Tong

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he is originally from Morocco.

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Interesting. So

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a lot of information and I hope it

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didn't bore

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you.

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All right. Cool. But there's a lot of

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information about everybody except for

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JCVD.

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Does that say something?

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Who am I to say?

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I'm just saying when somebody gets their career

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blasted off by playing a farcical kung fu

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fighter

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Right. So well,

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it's almost like they don't have to act.

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Oh my gosh.

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You know, did you know that Jean Claude

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Van Damme was the original person casted to

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play the predator?

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I can see that. He now this will

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say a lot about JCV

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as well.

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The reason why he didn't play the predator

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was because he wouldn't be able to have

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his face in the film. That does say

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a whole lot about him.

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That says a whole lot about him and

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something we're not surprised about either. The things

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you learn about the people that you thought

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were heroes. Let's go ahead and talk about

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expectations. Dallas,

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being as you

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I'm assuming you haven't seen this movie before.

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Have you seen this movie before? I have

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never. I think I'm I've seen the box

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for the later kickboxer movies. Mhmm.

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But I don't I've never seen this. I've

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never seen them. Why don't you go ahead

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and give us your expectations then? Being as

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I don't want to taint your expectations with

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that of my own.

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My expectations

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is that this will be

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like every

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other eighties martial arts movie that take place

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with the secret martial arts tournament. And having

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read the back of the box and having,

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I don't know, gotten the cliff notes of

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the movie already, I feel like I'm cheating

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with this one. I think it'll be fun.

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I think it'll be interesting. I like good,

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you know, eighties revenge story. So I'm down

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for this.

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Okay. So as far as my expectations are

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concerned, I'm gonna put it to you like

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this.

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When we first pulled these movies out of

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the dumpster and figured out that we were

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gonna be watching them for this.

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Mhmm. I was so excited to watch this

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movie because when we got into that argument

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back in the day with, if you were

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kickboxer

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or,

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Bloodsport,

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I was team kickboxer.

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So I was super excited. Well, after we

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watched Bloodsport,

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I'm terrified to watch this movie now. Cause

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I'm almost afraid that because I'm not in

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that eighties mindset anymore, this movie is not

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going to be as good as I remember

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it being. And I'm just going to burn

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down another section of my childhood.

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That's fair.

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So what what's my impression? I'm terrified.

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You were terrified?

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Oh my gosh. That's so funny. Alright. Well,

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let's find out.

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Yes.

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Let's.

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Dear listeners,

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this is your opportunity to escape.

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Our crew has just entered into the media

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projection chamber.

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What horrors and matters that they consume are

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unknown?

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Their mental state upon their return is

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unknown.

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You have been warned.

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Well, Joe, I'm disappointed. We should've watched this

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one before we did Bloodsport. I feel like

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Bloodsport would've made more sense because this is

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a prequel, isn't it? No. This movie has

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nothing to do with Bloodsport.

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This isn't a prequel to Bloodsport? No. John's

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not playing the exact same character in the

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exact same manner? No. Just that he's learning

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kung fu? No.

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Wow. Yeah. Well, that changes everything now. It

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actually turns out, oops, I did it again

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was what the script writer said after they

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watched the movie Bloodsport,

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and they were like, oh, I did that

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again. Oh. Somewhere, Frank Dukes is like, hey,

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that was my life too. I did that.

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That was me.

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Wait, is did the guy who wrote this

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movie, is that just a pen name for

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Frank Dukes?

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Maybe.

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Like like, for real everybody, if you're out

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there, there there are,

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there are 3 fake martial artists you really

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need to look into if if you really

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want a good lap. You need to look

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into Frank Dukes, you need to look into

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Ashita Kim, and you need to look into

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Count Dante.

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Count Dante.

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Mhmm. That's interesting.

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I don't know Count Dante.

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Count Dante

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Do we have time to go into this?

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This this just isn't the this isn't the

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time or place where it's not that it's

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inappropriate. It's just it would probably take me

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about an hour to explain Count Dante to

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you. Wow. So that being said, let's actually

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talk about this movie that is intentionally fake

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instead of accidentally fake. This was the same

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movie.

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Yeah.

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I I mean,

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this was basically Bloodsport,

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better choreography.

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Mostly better choreography. Like okay. And this is

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a conversation Dallas and I had again while

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watching this movie. I had mentioned to him,

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like, yo, despite the fact that this is

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essentially the same exact movie,

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the action to me seems better.

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And I think it's mostly because

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Van Damme

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the the Muay Thai is what Van Van

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Damme was trained in. Like, that's that's he's

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he is Belgium's champion

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kickboxer, which is Muay Thai,

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which on to a certain degree, and I

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said also said this to Dallas earlier, which

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to a certain degree is kind of like

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saying you're Alaska's

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champion

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bullfighter.

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But it it still is to be said

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that of all the Muay Thai fighters there

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are in Belgium,

394
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he was the best one at one point.

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Far be it for me to take Belgium's

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Chuck Norris away from them. Just not my

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cup of tea, and it very well could

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be that I remembered.

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For some reason, I just remembered Van Damme

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being a better actor, like being able to

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deliver wines better. I think it was, they

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were so inundated with him back in the

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day that we just assumed like, oh yeah,

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he's clearly

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gotta be a a great actor because he's

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everywhere.

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Right. I remembered him being a a better

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actor. And when we watched

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street fighter

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Mhmm. Initially,

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like, I thought, okay, well, he's bad in

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this because we found out exactly how much

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illicit substances he was using

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during that time frame. And, you know, drugs

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will mess you up. I'm gonna pause real

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quick because I just I did a goo

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I was trying to see what movies he's

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done. Try because I'm trying to go, what

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movies has he done that was good? I

420
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didn't realize this, but he voices freaking Johnny

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Cage

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in moral combat 1, the video game. That

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kills me. That's

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I didn't even realize that until just now.

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That's a ma that makes so much sense.

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But, yeah, I just remembered him being a

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better actor. And then when we watched street

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fighter for this, I figured, okay, well, bro

429
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was coked out of his mind for this.

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So I'll give him a pass on that.

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That makes sense. Mhmm.

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But coming back to these movies, it's just

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like, I don't believe a single thing that's

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coming out of your mouth. Like, I've watched

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better

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middle school theater programs.

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You know what I mean? It's like, I've

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watched I've watched our city's inner players kids

439
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programs do a Charlie Brown Christmas live on

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stage.

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That's terrible. And I believed them more than

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I believed that Jean Claude Van like, for

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real. Like, yeah, it's like he's never experienced

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a human emotion in his life to understand

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how to replicate one in front of a

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camera.

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I feel like that it like,

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last week or last time we recorded the

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with the time of the other movie, Bobby

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had left a comment saying that time cop

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was a good movie.

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And I remember time cop being good, but

453
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also remember him doing decent job with double

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team.

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I mean, I guess,

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I don't know.

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Like the last movie he ever, that ever

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came out in the theater that had him

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in it that I was actually quasi interested

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was the movie that he did with Dolph

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Lundgren. I think it was called universal soldier.

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Oh, yeah. This is that one. I never

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ended up seeing it just because at that

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time period when universal soldier finally came out,

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it was about the same time period that

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Terminator 2 came out. Right. And because they

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were so similar in tone and concept, I

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think

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Universal Soldier ended up getting buried. That was

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kind of the tipping point where

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he went off into

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street fighter land.

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I am going through his INDB right now.

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Uh-huh.

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And I feel like I should be ashamed

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at the number of these movies I've watched.

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Bro,

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you gotta understand, during that time period, it

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was about mindless violence and action. They're they're,

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like, for real.

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I remember the plot to Bloodsport being a

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lot more sweeping, like, than

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it was when we watched it. Like,

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it's just, there's so much that our memory

485
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and our imagination fills in on the back

486
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end

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that

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it's almost Like, once you hit the year

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2000, it becomes a little more foggy for

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me with his movies,

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which ones I've seen and not seen. Like,

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I saw him in Kung Fu Panda 2.

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He did great in that one as a

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crocodile. I've got the analogy for you, Dallas.

495
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Okay. Jean Claude Van Damme was the Andre

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Agassi of action films.

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That would make a lot of sense if

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I knew who that was.

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Andre

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Andre Agassi was a very promising

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tennis star in the late eighties, early nineties.

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Mhmm.

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He was everywhere. He was on all the

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Wheaties boxes because he had the long hair

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and the sunglasses.

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Like, he was the new guy that was

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making

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tennis young, hip, and cool. Right? And then

509
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he fell off because it started coming out

510
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about, like, Bro was getting into the excesses

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that come along with immediate stardom. Oof.

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And that's kinda what happened to JCVD. Like,

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he came in and he was the new

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action

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star or Right. He's got the French accent.

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Then the the illicit substances kinda take over

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and he fells off. You know what I

518
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mean? Right. So I'm sorry. I guess that

519
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one's more for the gen x leaning side

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of the zennials out there.

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It's probably,

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like, like that that's the reason why Dallas

523
00:19:50,725 --> 00:19:52,565
and I connect so hard is like, we're

524
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both part of the Xennial Michael micro generation,

525
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except I lean harder towards the gen X

526
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side and he leans harder towards the millennials.

527
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So we got all y'all covered with this

528
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stupid crap.

529
00:20:04,779 --> 00:20:05,279
Oh.

530
00:20:05,740 --> 00:20:07,360
Let's talk about this movie again.

531
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Hey. We're doing a movie today, guys. Y'all

532
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talk we already talk really, all we have

533
00:20:12,940 --> 00:20:14,700
to do if you guys really, really want

534
00:20:14,700 --> 00:20:16,575
us to to go through it is just

535
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go back and listen to the last episode,

536
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and we'll send you the exact same things.

537
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Okay. I'll say this. Hang on. Hang on,

538
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Dallas. Story wise. Hang on, Dallas. Just a

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second.

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Ladies and gentlemen,

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the spoiler section.

542
00:20:37,730 --> 00:20:38,630
Story wise,

543
00:20:39,090 --> 00:20:40,769
there was more to it in this than

544
00:20:40,769 --> 00:20:42,369
I felt like, although I did read a

545
00:20:42,369 --> 00:20:44,369
review, like an early review that came out

546
00:20:44,369 --> 00:20:46,315
about this movie, and they were like, there's

547
00:20:46,315 --> 00:20:48,714
no story. I was like, there's more story

548
00:20:48,714 --> 00:20:49,375
than this.

549
00:20:49,755 --> 00:20:51,674
One person did compare it to call it

550
00:20:51,674 --> 00:20:53,534
a a bloody version of

551
00:20:54,234 --> 00:20:56,575
of Karate Kid. I could see that.

552
00:20:56,875 --> 00:20:59,339
But I I thought the story was interesting.

553
00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:01,559
I'm gonna close your eyes. I rather

554
00:21:02,039 --> 00:21:03,799
I will not close my eyes. You stay

555
00:21:03,799 --> 00:21:04,779
over there, sir.

556
00:21:05,799 --> 00:21:07,240
Let let me try that again. I'm gonna

557
00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:10,200
try something. Dallas, close your eyes. Okay. All

558
00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:11,880
right. I'm gonna describe a movie. You tell

559
00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:13,099
me a movie I'm describing.

560
00:21:13,575 --> 00:21:15,515
A man goes to a nondescript

561
00:21:15,974 --> 00:21:19,394
Asian country in support of a significant, a

562
00:21:19,414 --> 00:21:19,914
significant

563
00:21:21,335 --> 00:21:22,394
close person

564
00:21:23,095 --> 00:21:25,174
who is going to said country for the

565
00:21:25,174 --> 00:21:26,714
sake of a fighting tournament

566
00:21:27,390 --> 00:21:28,450
at said tournament

567
00:21:29,150 --> 00:21:31,009
said friend is severely

568
00:21:31,309 --> 00:21:31,809
injured

569
00:21:32,190 --> 00:21:33,970
to the point where he can no longer

570
00:21:34,670 --> 00:21:35,170
fight

571
00:21:35,789 --> 00:21:38,910
supporting friend steps into said tournament to avenge

572
00:21:38,910 --> 00:21:41,330
the memory of befallen friend

573
00:21:41,914 --> 00:21:42,414
against

574
00:21:42,954 --> 00:21:46,095
the evil combatant who had injured this individual.

575
00:21:46,954 --> 00:21:48,734
At which point at the very end,

576
00:21:49,355 --> 00:21:51,454
supporting friend wins the tournament

577
00:21:51,914 --> 00:21:54,875
and has some kind of a romantic interest

578
00:21:54,875 --> 00:21:56,714
crammed in at the very last second for

579
00:21:56,714 --> 00:21:58,519
the sake of having somebody to be

580
00:21:58,900 --> 00:22:01,640
romantic with, and everybody's happy at the end.

581
00:22:01,940 --> 00:22:04,360
I'll take Mortal Kombat for 300, Alex.

582
00:22:05,140 --> 00:22:06,980
Like, for real. Did I just did I

583
00:22:06,980 --> 00:22:08,360
just describe Bloodsport

584
00:22:09,059 --> 00:22:10,120
or did I describe

585
00:22:10,705 --> 00:22:11,205
kickboxer?

586
00:22:12,065 --> 00:22:13,424
I feel really weird about the fact now

587
00:22:13,424 --> 00:22:14,865
that you got you say that because you

588
00:22:14,945 --> 00:22:17,025
it's both, but also Mortal Kombat. Like, that's

589
00:22:17,025 --> 00:22:19,025
the exact story life for Mortal Kombat. Now

590
00:22:19,025 --> 00:22:20,785
Jean Claude wasn't in Mortal Kombat. It was

591
00:22:20,785 --> 00:22:21,765
the guy from Highlander.

592
00:22:22,144 --> 00:22:25,025
Yeah. But Johnny Johnny Cage was inspired by

593
00:22:25,025 --> 00:22:27,349
Jean by Jean Claude Van Damme's character in

594
00:22:27,349 --> 00:22:29,750
Bloodsport. Dang. Are we doing 6 degrees of

595
00:22:29,750 --> 00:22:32,089
Kevin Bacon, but Jean Claude Van Damme? Yes.

596
00:22:34,309 --> 00:22:35,829
Then welcome to our show where we now

597
00:22:35,829 --> 00:22:37,750
play a new game called Van Damme. That's

598
00:22:37,750 --> 00:22:38,250
creepy.

599
00:22:40,335 --> 00:22:41,075
My gosh.

600
00:22:41,615 --> 00:22:43,775
Oh, man. I would be interested to see

601
00:22:43,775 --> 00:22:46,174
how we find Van Damme connections later on

602
00:22:46,174 --> 00:22:48,595
in life. But anyways I I I am

603
00:22:48,654 --> 00:22:50,914
bro. The same story. Wait. Wait. Kickbox.

604
00:22:51,455 --> 00:22:54,159
Okay. I just described the plot. We've both

605
00:22:54,319 --> 00:22:55,759
we've we can both agree that I just

606
00:22:55,759 --> 00:22:57,779
described the kickbox the both kickboxer

607
00:22:58,079 --> 00:22:58,579
and,

608
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,159
Bloodsport plot lines. Right? Mhmm. Now I want

609
00:23:02,159 --> 00:23:03,460
you to think about

610
00:23:03,919 --> 00:23:05,679
it's almost the same movie if you put

611
00:23:05,679 --> 00:23:08,144
it in a military aspect, street

612
00:23:08,525 --> 00:23:11,644
fighter. Yeah. Yeah, it really is. All these

613
00:23:11,644 --> 00:23:13,804
movies are just the Sean, Jean Claude van

614
00:23:13,804 --> 00:23:16,704
dam has been giving us the same movie

615
00:23:17,804 --> 00:23:20,605
for 40, almost 40 years. And we keep

616
00:23:20,605 --> 00:23:21,585
watching it.

617
00:23:22,710 --> 00:23:23,609
I don't

618
00:23:24,549 --> 00:23:26,149
bro. When was the last time you paid

619
00:23:26,149 --> 00:23:27,690
money to watch a JCVD

620
00:23:27,990 --> 00:23:28,490
movie?

621
00:23:28,869 --> 00:23:30,789
I think when I rented universal soldier when

622
00:23:30,789 --> 00:23:32,789
I was 9. Well, no, no, no. Cause

623
00:23:32,789 --> 00:23:34,869
you, you, you've seen the Expendables too. You

624
00:23:34,869 --> 00:23:37,315
saw Expendables too. I didn't pay for it

625
00:23:37,315 --> 00:23:38,434
though. I had to read it as a

626
00:23:38,434 --> 00:23:40,294
Hollywood video. Oh. Oh.

627
00:23:41,554 --> 00:23:43,575
That's even that's even sadder.

628
00:23:44,274 --> 00:23:44,774
Wow.

629
00:23:46,115 --> 00:23:48,115
I worked for Hollywood video. I watched everything

630
00:23:48,115 --> 00:23:49,714
for free. Yeah. I feel like we've talked

631
00:23:49,714 --> 00:23:52,609
about this entire movie. Like, this movie brings

632
00:23:52,609 --> 00:23:54,849
nothing new to the table. I am so

633
00:23:54,849 --> 00:23:56,789
saddened by this whole experience.

634
00:23:57,490 --> 00:23:59,569
I feel like there is an evil force

635
00:23:59,569 --> 00:24:01,409
out there that's forcing me to face the

636
00:24:01,409 --> 00:24:03,970
fact that I had terrible taste as a

637
00:24:03,970 --> 00:24:04,470
kid.

638
00:24:04,849 --> 00:24:05,349
Yeah.

639
00:24:05,650 --> 00:24:07,894
And I am I am afraid

640
00:24:08,355 --> 00:24:10,595
Dallas of where this is going to lead

641
00:24:10,595 --> 00:24:11,095
us.

642
00:24:12,195 --> 00:24:14,755
This is a slippery slope we're on. We're

643
00:24:14,755 --> 00:24:16,355
gonna make it. We're gonna be fine. You're

644
00:24:16,355 --> 00:24:18,674
being, you're being pro the, but the Bible

645
00:24:18,674 --> 00:24:20,355
says the truth shall set us free, but

646
00:24:20,355 --> 00:24:23,329
I feel, I don't feel free. I'd Feel

647
00:24:23,329 --> 00:24:23,829
attacked.

648
00:24:24,210 --> 00:24:25,190
I feel attacks.

649
00:24:26,289 --> 00:24:28,049
We'll be fine. We'll make it. I will

650
00:24:28,049 --> 00:24:30,450
say this over and over again in my

651
00:24:30,450 --> 00:24:32,470
notes. There's words like,

652
00:24:32,769 --> 00:24:36,549
again, this, again, like another eighties power ballad,

653
00:24:36,944 --> 00:24:38,085
More leg stretching.

654
00:24:38,384 --> 00:24:40,625
Like, it's everything that was, like, oh, we

655
00:24:40,625 --> 00:24:42,085
just did this in the last movie.

656
00:24:43,105 --> 00:24:45,524
I know. But one thing I also noticed

657
00:24:45,664 --> 00:24:46,964
about this movie and,

658
00:24:47,505 --> 00:24:49,184
Bloodsport, other than the fact that they're the

659
00:24:49,184 --> 00:24:51,284
same exact movie with a different soundtrack,

660
00:24:51,839 --> 00:24:53,940
is the fact that the songs are

661
00:24:54,319 --> 00:24:56,640
super similar between the two movies as well.

662
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,400
Like, I was waiting for the Kumite song

663
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,179
to come up in the middle of kickboxer.

664
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:02,480
Yeah. I can see that. I'll say this.

665
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,160
I found it interesting with seeing Jean Claude

666
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:05,940
play dumb at the beginning of the movie.

667
00:25:06,034 --> 00:25:07,894
That was interesting watching playing?

668
00:25:08,194 --> 00:25:09,954
Playing dumb as far as as he doesn't

669
00:25:09,954 --> 00:25:11,894
understand how to fight. Oh, okay.

670
00:25:12,914 --> 00:25:14,755
Like, that was interesting seeing him go through

671
00:25:14,755 --> 00:25:16,835
that training process and, like like, at the

672
00:25:16,835 --> 00:25:18,515
front end where he's, like, in awe of

673
00:25:18,515 --> 00:25:20,730
the other fighters and stuff like that. And,

674
00:25:21,130 --> 00:25:23,390
when his brother was basically,

675
00:25:24,089 --> 00:25:26,089
like, you know, stop with the tiptoe things.

676
00:25:26,089 --> 00:25:28,490
Hit. You know? Like that Mario Lopez at

677
00:25:28,490 --> 00:25:28,990
home.

678
00:25:29,450 --> 00:25:31,690
Yeah. Basically. Can I I got a question?

679
00:25:31,690 --> 00:25:33,605
What was the point of the dancing? Why

680
00:25:33,605 --> 00:25:35,785
why did we have to make him dance?

681
00:25:36,164 --> 00:25:37,525
I I don't ever wanna see this man

682
00:25:37,525 --> 00:25:40,085
dance again. I don't know. I mean, if

683
00:25:40,085 --> 00:25:40,744
you remember

684
00:25:41,045 --> 00:25:43,125
best of the best, they kinda did something

685
00:25:43,125 --> 00:25:45,144
similar to that to the bar scene. Did.

686
00:25:45,605 --> 00:25:47,309
Yep. Surely did. I think it was the

687
00:25:47,309 --> 00:25:48,990
thing in the eighties where they wanted to

688
00:25:48,990 --> 00:25:50,049
show these characters

689
00:25:50,349 --> 00:25:52,429
cut loose to try to humanize them a

690
00:25:52,429 --> 00:25:53,409
little bit. So

691
00:25:53,710 --> 00:25:55,470
you don't think that all they do is

692
00:25:55,470 --> 00:25:57,230
just train and that's all who they are.

693
00:25:57,230 --> 00:25:59,390
Like, they're trying kudos to them for trying

694
00:25:59,390 --> 00:26:02,025
to add dimension to their characters, but

695
00:26:02,505 --> 00:26:04,585
really, it just reminds me of the evil

696
00:26:04,585 --> 00:26:05,805
Peter Parker dance.

697
00:26:08,025 --> 00:26:10,664
Bam that comments for you. I will never,

698
00:26:10,664 --> 00:26:12,664
I will never let the evil Peter Parker

699
00:26:12,664 --> 00:26:13,164
dance.

700
00:26:13,785 --> 00:26:15,690
I'm I'm going to let him shimmy all

701
00:26:15,690 --> 00:26:19,069
the way to supervillain as he mildly inconveniences

702
00:26:19,369 --> 00:26:20,029
the public.

703
00:26:21,609 --> 00:26:22,429
What a schmuck.

704
00:26:22,890 --> 00:26:24,890
Oh my gosh. Yeah. Again, I'm I'm looking

705
00:26:24,890 --> 00:26:26,569
through this stuff. I I have no note,

706
00:26:26,809 --> 00:26:29,464
in this. Like, Jean Claude's ability to always

707
00:26:29,464 --> 00:26:31,464
have a battle buddy in every film is

708
00:26:31,464 --> 00:26:33,625
amazing. This is true. And I think that's

709
00:26:33,625 --> 00:26:35,464
the reason why he always came across as

710
00:26:35,464 --> 00:26:38,204
being more charismatic than he actually is.

711
00:26:38,585 --> 00:26:41,085
Mhmm. Is because he's written

712
00:26:41,384 --> 00:26:42,044
to have

713
00:26:42,630 --> 00:26:44,890
ultra like, if you notice, like, all his

714
00:26:44,950 --> 00:26:45,849
battle buddies

715
00:26:46,309 --> 00:26:48,950
or however you wanna call them, like, his

716
00:26:49,190 --> 00:26:51,450
the goose to his mad to his maverick

717
00:26:51,509 --> 00:26:52,970
is always more charismatic

718
00:26:53,269 --> 00:26:55,930
than he is. Mhmm. And so by the

719
00:26:57,005 --> 00:26:58,065
by the laws

720
00:26:58,525 --> 00:26:59,505
of deference,

721
00:27:00,205 --> 00:27:02,765
you're it kinda tricks your mind into thinking

722
00:27:02,765 --> 00:27:05,805
that, oh, well, he's friends with all these

723
00:27:05,805 --> 00:27:06,305
charismatic

724
00:27:06,684 --> 00:27:08,785
people, so thus, he is a charismatic

725
00:27:09,085 --> 00:27:10,065
person himself.

726
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,480
Oh, was that a whole like tracks like

727
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:13,380
type of mindset?

728
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,600
Right. But, I mean, if you were to

729
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,799
take, like I don't know these characters' names.

730
00:27:18,799 --> 00:27:20,240
Like, if I was if I was to

731
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,575
say from Bloodsport, if you were to take,

732
00:27:23,615 --> 00:27:25,154
Short Stack as a teenager

733
00:27:25,694 --> 00:27:28,734
and Booger from revenge of the nerds out

734
00:27:28,734 --> 00:27:29,554
of the equation,

735
00:27:30,095 --> 00:27:31,554
and all you have is JCVD,

736
00:27:32,335 --> 00:27:34,335
that's gonna be a boring movie and nobody's

737
00:27:34,335 --> 00:27:36,640
gonna wanna watch it. Like the thing about

738
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,480
it is, and that's, that's the thing that

739
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,240
I was noticing by the time we got

740
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:41,299
to the end of kickboxer

741
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:42,820
is that

742
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:44,900
John Claude Van Damme movies,

743
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,140
all the side characters are

744
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:48,820
what drive the movies.

745
00:27:49,214 --> 00:27:51,934
Mhmm. Because it all the all the side

746
00:27:51,934 --> 00:27:53,154
characters, all the NPCs,

747
00:27:53,535 --> 00:27:54,434
so to speak,

748
00:27:55,375 --> 00:27:56,914
they have more personality

749
00:27:57,934 --> 00:28:00,174
than his characters. You know what I mean?

750
00:28:00,174 --> 00:28:02,674
Which Like, you show up for those characters

751
00:28:02,734 --> 00:28:05,570
and and his fighting for these movies, basically.

752
00:28:05,710 --> 00:28:08,269
Yeah. And which makes me go, was it

753
00:28:08,269 --> 00:28:10,309
done on purpose? Like, were and if it

754
00:28:10,349 --> 00:28:12,190
it's on purpose, kudos to the to the

755
00:28:12,190 --> 00:28:13,950
people who did this, who who did the

756
00:28:13,950 --> 00:28:16,670
writing and did the directing going, hey. He's

757
00:28:16,670 --> 00:28:19,445
a great fighter. He's a great at certain

758
00:28:19,445 --> 00:28:22,404
things. However, his acting, it's wooden. We need

759
00:28:22,404 --> 00:28:24,484
somebody to to kinda puff it up to

760
00:28:24,484 --> 00:28:26,325
make things a little bit more for for

761
00:28:26,325 --> 00:28:27,224
somebody to

762
00:28:27,684 --> 00:28:30,484
see themselves in, I that's smart if they

763
00:28:30,484 --> 00:28:32,080
did it that way on purpose. I would

764
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:33,140
would have 100%

765
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,100
argue that it was, it it was intentional.

766
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,660
It that you can't you can't do that

767
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:39,220
twice

768
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:41,680
and not for it for it to not

769
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:42,340
be intentional.

770
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,125
Yeah. Definitely. So here's a fun question for

771
00:28:45,125 --> 00:28:46,964
you. How many kids do you think almost

772
00:28:46,964 --> 00:28:49,144
drowned or broke their shins trying to do

773
00:28:49,524 --> 00:28:52,005
the training sequences that he was doing? All

774
00:28:52,005 --> 00:28:52,585
of them.

775
00:28:53,524 --> 00:28:55,845
How many times did you almost die? Oh,

776
00:28:55,845 --> 00:28:57,224
I I did.

777
00:28:58,164 --> 00:28:58,744
I I

778
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,799
I I had the friends I did okay.

779
00:29:01,799 --> 00:29:02,299
So

780
00:29:02,759 --> 00:29:05,000
this is sounds so stupid, but Dallas will

781
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,000
understand what I mean when I use this

782
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:07,500
phrase

783
00:29:07,799 --> 00:29:09,559
because it was an eighties thing. If you

784
00:29:09,559 --> 00:29:11,799
weren't in the eighties, don't mock it. You

785
00:29:11,799 --> 00:29:14,404
won't understand it. But the friends that I

786
00:29:14,404 --> 00:29:15,704
did karate with

787
00:29:16,164 --> 00:29:17,305
Mhmm. In the eighties,

788
00:29:17,765 --> 00:29:19,065
did karate, they

789
00:29:19,444 --> 00:29:22,005
we were more interested in just beating each

790
00:29:22,005 --> 00:29:24,085
other up than actually trying to do a

791
00:29:24,164 --> 00:29:25,625
emulate what we saw.

792
00:29:25,924 --> 00:29:27,929
You know what I mean? Like, there I

793
00:29:27,929 --> 00:29:29,769
I was just thinking about it earlier. Like,

794
00:29:29,769 --> 00:29:32,329
I was having, like, eighties flashbacks, like, ever

795
00:29:32,329 --> 00:29:33,950
since we started this request.

796
00:29:34,329 --> 00:29:36,329
I was thinking about it earlier today about

797
00:29:36,329 --> 00:29:38,970
some of, like, the Pattersons down the street,

798
00:29:38,970 --> 00:29:41,289
and that's not me doxing anybody because they

799
00:29:41,289 --> 00:29:42,509
don't live there anymore.

800
00:29:43,174 --> 00:29:44,454
But the Paterson's down the street, I was

801
00:29:44,454 --> 00:29:46,214
thinking to myself. I'm like, Jesus. I remember

802
00:29:46,214 --> 00:29:48,615
having conversations about watching this movie over at

803
00:29:48,615 --> 00:29:50,054
their house and then being out in the

804
00:29:50,054 --> 00:29:51,755
front yard and ripping open

805
00:29:52,214 --> 00:29:55,494
sea batteries to try to try to create

806
00:29:55,494 --> 00:29:59,009
grenades with the battery acid and heavy metals

807
00:29:59,009 --> 00:29:59,750
on the inside.

808
00:30:00,049 --> 00:30:02,529
Like the eighties were wild. We had lawn

809
00:30:02,529 --> 00:30:03,029
darts.

810
00:30:03,410 --> 00:30:05,809
Just playing with chemicals and blades. Why not?

811
00:30:05,809 --> 00:30:06,950
I grew up fine.

812
00:30:07,970 --> 00:30:09,190
We're okay. We made

813
00:30:09,970 --> 00:30:11,190
it. I'm fine.

814
00:30:12,305 --> 00:30:14,065
Oh my gosh. I'm trying to see if

815
00:30:14,065 --> 00:30:15,825
there's anything worth talking about in my notes

816
00:30:15,825 --> 00:30:18,144
where it's just it was different. Again, it

817
00:30:18,265 --> 00:30:20,464
but It wasn't though. It wasn't different at

818
00:30:20,464 --> 00:30:22,464
all. It's just it's a different country, but,

819
00:30:22,464 --> 00:30:24,384
I mean, the the here's the thing about

820
00:30:24,384 --> 00:30:26,224
it, and and that here's something that will

821
00:30:26,305 --> 00:30:28,230
I can talk say about both movies that

822
00:30:28,230 --> 00:30:30,470
covers across them too, is that the way

823
00:30:30,470 --> 00:30:32,170
that the different call standards,

824
00:30:32,789 --> 00:30:36,089
comma, it comes across as being casual,

825
00:30:37,190 --> 00:30:38,329
casually racist.

826
00:30:38,710 --> 00:30:40,570
Mhmm. If that makes sense, the way that

827
00:30:40,710 --> 00:30:41,609
the way that

828
00:30:42,034 --> 00:30:43,974
Thai culture and the way they portrayed,

829
00:30:45,954 --> 00:30:48,355
Hong Kong culture and the way they portrayed

830
00:30:48,355 --> 00:30:52,115
African culture in bloodsport with the African fighter

831
00:30:52,115 --> 00:30:54,034
who, who they had rolling around like a

832
00:30:54,034 --> 00:30:54,534
monkey.

833
00:30:55,075 --> 00:30:56,454
Right. It all

834
00:30:57,089 --> 00:30:57,829
came across

835
00:30:58,690 --> 00:31:01,009
as being racist. And then I know somebody

836
00:31:01,009 --> 00:31:02,130
out there is to say, well, John, there

837
00:31:02,130 --> 00:31:04,369
is a monkey style kung fu where that

838
00:31:04,369 --> 00:31:05,190
does look

839
00:31:05,490 --> 00:31:07,569
like that. And I would say, yes, there

840
00:31:07,569 --> 00:31:08,069
is.

841
00:31:08,369 --> 00:31:10,289
But I would also say there's no reason

842
00:31:10,289 --> 00:31:12,414
to force the black guy, the only black

843
00:31:12,414 --> 00:31:13,775
guy in the movie to be the guy

844
00:31:13,775 --> 00:31:16,494
who's proficient in it. Right. You can't tell

845
00:31:16,494 --> 00:31:17,795
me that wasn't intentional.

846
00:31:18,174 --> 00:31:20,255
I'm sorry. Well, I mean, they got the

847
00:31:20,255 --> 00:31:22,494
white guy do Muay Thai. Well, that's the

848
00:31:22,494 --> 00:31:24,975
American coming to the Asian country to save

849
00:31:24,975 --> 00:31:27,490
them from themselves, which is also the way

850
00:31:27,710 --> 00:31:28,369
a theme

851
00:31:28,750 --> 00:31:31,250
across both these movies as well. Just putting

852
00:31:31,309 --> 00:31:33,149
that out there. In Bloodsport, they had a

853
00:31:33,149 --> 00:31:35,409
white guy doing Muay Thai. Oh, did they?

854
00:31:35,470 --> 00:31:38,849
Yeah. No. I didn't catch that. Yep. So

855
00:31:39,069 --> 00:31:40,335
yeah. It was that was one of the

856
00:31:40,335 --> 00:31:41,375
things that was said in one of the

857
00:31:41,375 --> 00:31:42,974
early reviews I saw from the original time

858
00:31:42,974 --> 00:31:44,654
frame, is that people they didn't like the

859
00:31:44,654 --> 00:31:47,075
stereotypes it was reinforcing that was coming out.

860
00:31:47,214 --> 00:31:49,634
There was one stereotype that I didn't appreciate,

861
00:31:50,174 --> 00:31:52,015
and it was a stereotype of Americans, the

862
00:31:52,015 --> 00:31:54,339
arrogance, the fighter. And this is something that

863
00:31:54,339 --> 00:31:56,019
I genuinely was struggling with when we watched

864
00:31:56,019 --> 00:31:57,159
this movie, which was

865
00:31:57,619 --> 00:32:00,179
his brother was so arrogant and so ignorant

866
00:32:00,179 --> 00:32:00,679
of

867
00:32:01,140 --> 00:32:02,919
Muay Thai. And, again,

868
00:32:03,220 --> 00:32:04,679
you and I were in 2024.

869
00:32:05,220 --> 00:32:07,960
I've known about Muay Thai actively since probably

870
00:32:08,179 --> 00:32:09,444
2000, 2,001,

871
00:32:10,065 --> 00:32:11,984
because I had friends who did it. And

872
00:32:12,224 --> 00:32:14,025
but Muay Thai did some research. It's been

873
00:32:14,025 --> 00:32:15,744
a we've had an American League since, like,

874
00:32:15,744 --> 00:32:16,404
the sixties

875
00:32:16,785 --> 00:32:19,744
here in the states. I can't imagine somebody

876
00:32:19,744 --> 00:32:23,444
being at the top level of kickboxing

877
00:32:24,224 --> 00:32:24,839
and not

878
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,019
at least somehow know

879
00:32:27,559 --> 00:32:28,059
about

880
00:32:28,519 --> 00:32:29,019
about

881
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,079
what Muay Thai is. And then to be

882
00:32:31,079 --> 00:32:33,179
the top person and to be so arrogant,

883
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,559
that was purely a movie trope put in

884
00:32:35,559 --> 00:32:37,375
for just to push the story forward, and

885
00:32:37,375 --> 00:32:38,575
it's the one that I feel like it's

886
00:32:38,575 --> 00:32:40,815
been played out. Because I I I've I

887
00:32:40,815 --> 00:32:42,755
have I've met top performing

888
00:32:43,134 --> 00:32:44,595
people in different fields.

889
00:32:45,054 --> 00:32:47,134
I have I have had full conversations with

890
00:32:47,134 --> 00:32:48,914
Olympic, o o Olympians,

891
00:32:49,650 --> 00:32:51,650
and the honor and respect they have for

892
00:32:51,650 --> 00:32:53,430
the art that they do and the predecessors

893
00:32:53,570 --> 00:32:55,890
to the art is it's massive because they

894
00:32:55,890 --> 00:32:57,250
understood that that's how they get to where

895
00:32:57,250 --> 00:32:59,590
they're at now. Now, again, I'm in 2024.

896
00:32:59,730 --> 00:33:01,490
Minds have changed quite a bit, but I

897
00:33:01,490 --> 00:33:02,769
struggled a lot with that on the front

898
00:33:02,769 --> 00:33:04,575
end of this movie. Well, I would be

899
00:33:04,575 --> 00:33:05,234
willing to

900
00:33:05,535 --> 00:33:07,335
push that further to say that this is

901
00:33:07,454 --> 00:33:10,255
25. I apologize. Kept saying 2024. That's fair.

902
00:33:10,255 --> 00:33:11,555
We just had the new year.

903
00:33:12,414 --> 00:33:14,174
I would say though that this is an

904
00:33:14,174 --> 00:33:16,654
archetypical character that you would find in the

905
00:33:16,654 --> 00:33:18,755
standard eighties action film,

906
00:33:19,359 --> 00:33:21,940
especially with the tournament style,

907
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:24,740
action film. In that,

908
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,220
there's the over cocky

909
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,220
natural talent that refuses to accept instruction.

910
00:33:32,444 --> 00:33:34,684
You find that with the guy that I

911
00:33:34,684 --> 00:33:35,904
refer to as Booger

912
00:33:36,444 --> 00:33:37,424
in Bloodsport.

913
00:33:37,884 --> 00:33:38,865
You know what I mean?

914
00:33:39,724 --> 00:33:42,845
You find that with his character, his brother's

915
00:33:42,845 --> 00:33:44,224
character in kickboxer,

916
00:33:44,980 --> 00:33:47,559
you find it with Chris Penn's character

917
00:33:47,940 --> 00:33:50,019
in best of the best and best of

918
00:33:50,019 --> 00:33:51,960
the best to Chris Penn again.

919
00:33:52,419 --> 00:33:53,960
Right. With the villain

920
00:33:54,500 --> 00:33:56,119
in order to 1

921
00:33:56,579 --> 00:33:57,079
demonstrate

922
00:33:57,460 --> 00:33:58,519
that cockiness

923
00:33:58,819 --> 00:33:59,720
is bad,

924
00:34:00,205 --> 00:34:01,744
but also to demonstrate

925
00:34:02,285 --> 00:34:03,345
how ruthless

926
00:34:03,725 --> 00:34:04,865
a villain is

927
00:34:05,404 --> 00:34:08,465
Right. To the point where it's super formulaic.

928
00:34:09,164 --> 00:34:11,244
Yeah. I can see that. I can see

929
00:34:11,244 --> 00:34:12,844
that. I've run out of things to talk

930
00:34:12,844 --> 00:34:13,344
about.

931
00:34:14,030 --> 00:34:16,190
I literally just spent the last 7 minutes

932
00:34:16,190 --> 00:34:17,010
talking about

933
00:34:17,469 --> 00:34:20,269
character archetypes rather than this movie because

934
00:34:20,750 --> 00:34:21,250
Yeah.

935
00:34:21,630 --> 00:34:24,510
Really, once once you've seen Bloodsport or you've

936
00:34:24,510 --> 00:34:26,670
seen The Karate Kid or you've seen The

937
00:34:26,670 --> 00:34:27,170
Kickboxer

938
00:34:27,630 --> 00:34:28,530
or you've seen

939
00:34:28,934 --> 00:34:30,954
best of the best or whatever.

940
00:34:31,494 --> 00:34:34,155
You've seen all these movies. The difference is

941
00:34:34,535 --> 00:34:36,454
what the core message is that they're trying

942
00:34:36,454 --> 00:34:37,035
to send

943
00:34:37,494 --> 00:34:39,735
or the setting that they're in outside of

944
00:34:39,735 --> 00:34:41,655
that. Those stories are gonna be the exact

945
00:34:41,655 --> 00:34:42,119
same.

946
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,920
It's it's like what people call the hero's

947
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,320
journey. The points are gonna end up lining

948
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:47,820
up

949
00:34:48,119 --> 00:34:50,360
along the lines. There are certain plot points

950
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,360
you're gonna end up expecting if you're watching

951
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,680
these movies. So Yeah. I mean, if you're

952
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:56,460
into that sort of,

953
00:34:56,835 --> 00:34:59,014
like, if you find repetition comfortable,

954
00:34:59,554 --> 00:35:00,295
so where

955
00:35:00,835 --> 00:35:03,394
there's nothing new or nothing to catch you

956
00:35:03,394 --> 00:35:04,675
off guard, then these are gonna be the

957
00:35:04,675 --> 00:35:06,195
types of movies that you're gonna be super

958
00:35:06,195 --> 00:35:08,699
into. And during the eighties, that was common

959
00:35:08,699 --> 00:35:10,940
place. You'd see that a lot with how

960
00:35:10,940 --> 00:35:12,639
TV was done in the eighties

961
00:35:13,339 --> 00:35:14,639
with TV shows

962
00:35:15,179 --> 00:35:16,159
in their sitcoms

963
00:35:16,699 --> 00:35:19,820
Mhmm. Where every episode like, everything was fluff

964
00:35:19,820 --> 00:35:22,235
and nothing mattered in the sitcoms during that

965
00:35:22,235 --> 00:35:22,974
time period.

966
00:35:23,594 --> 00:35:25,515
And that's kind of how the movies are

967
00:35:25,515 --> 00:35:27,614
too. Everything's fluff and nothing matters.

968
00:35:28,155 --> 00:35:30,875
Right. I can see that. So let's rate

969
00:35:30,875 --> 00:35:33,599
this because I'm rambling because I'm, I don't

970
00:35:33,599 --> 00:35:34,099
know.

971
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,680
This the these movies make me wanna talk,

972
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,840
but they they make me want to don't

973
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,559
make me wanna necessarily talk about the movie

974
00:35:42,559 --> 00:35:45,119
itself, but ideas that the movie gave me

975
00:35:45,119 --> 00:35:47,775
while I was watching it. Yeah. Alright. Well,

976
00:35:47,855 --> 00:35:49,534
let's get to the the rating system then.

977
00:35:49,534 --> 00:35:51,135
Here on the bottom shelf, we have 4

978
00:35:51,135 --> 00:35:53,855
levels on our rating system. Top shelf is,

979
00:35:53,855 --> 00:35:56,174
this is a fantastic movie. I think I

980
00:35:56,174 --> 00:35:57,614
need to own this so I can watch

981
00:35:57,614 --> 00:35:58,835
it several times.

982
00:35:59,295 --> 00:36:02,489
Hey. Hey. Middle shelf is, it's alright. If

983
00:36:02,489 --> 00:36:04,489
it's on streaming or whatever, I might watch

984
00:36:04,489 --> 00:36:07,050
it sometime, maybe. I don't know. It's not

985
00:36:07,050 --> 00:36:07,550
terrible.

986
00:36:07,849 --> 00:36:09,849
The bottom shelf is, this movie's bad. I

987
00:36:09,849 --> 00:36:11,929
don't wanna watch it again. Someone else might

988
00:36:11,929 --> 00:36:13,530
wanna watch it if it's your jam, but

989
00:36:13,530 --> 00:36:15,610
it's not for me, and I don't wanna

990
00:36:15,610 --> 00:36:17,594
see it. And then there's the dumpster fire,

991
00:36:17,594 --> 00:36:19,994
which is this doesn't have any place on

992
00:36:19,994 --> 00:36:22,394
any shelf. It needs to be destroyed and

993
00:36:22,394 --> 00:36:24,875
eradicated from existence, and I'm gonna go out

994
00:36:24,875 --> 00:36:26,315
of my way to make sure nobody else

995
00:36:26,315 --> 00:36:28,335
watches it. That being said,

996
00:36:28,679 --> 00:36:29,900
captain Dallas Mora,

997
00:36:30,359 --> 00:36:32,699
as I have invited you into my childhood

998
00:36:33,079 --> 00:36:36,039
to watch this and invited you to watch

999
00:36:36,039 --> 00:36:36,539
me

1000
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:37,900
become disenfranchised

1001
00:36:38,519 --> 00:36:40,780
with things that were once sacred,

1002
00:36:41,159 --> 00:36:43,424
please rate this film. It's not a good

1003
00:36:44,684 --> 00:36:45,184
movie.

1004
00:36:46,444 --> 00:36:49,505
Such a segue, bro. It's not. But

1005
00:36:49,964 --> 00:36:51,724
and I said at the beginning, it has

1006
00:36:51,724 --> 00:36:52,704
a better story,

1007
00:36:53,164 --> 00:36:53,664
and

1008
00:36:53,964 --> 00:36:54,864
part of me's

1009
00:36:55,210 --> 00:36:57,289
oddly curious as to how it got 4

1010
00:36:57,289 --> 00:36:57,789
more

1011
00:36:58,250 --> 00:36:59,929
movies out of it. It looks like in

1012
00:36:59,929 --> 00:37:02,429
the second one, they kill Kurt, and his

1013
00:37:02,570 --> 00:37:04,989
the unknown brother who we don't know about

1014
00:37:05,610 --> 00:37:08,090
has to fight Tong Po. And I kinda

1015
00:37:08,090 --> 00:37:09,804
wanna watch him for some reason. I wanna

1016
00:37:09,804 --> 00:37:11,804
know where we go with this. I don't

1017
00:37:11,804 --> 00:37:13,905
wanna own this movie ever, and

1018
00:37:14,445 --> 00:37:16,545
I'm thankful that Tubi has it for free.

1019
00:37:16,684 --> 00:37:18,224
I'm gonna put it on the middle shelf.

1020
00:37:18,364 --> 00:37:20,065
It's a better movie than Bloodsport.

1021
00:37:20,605 --> 00:37:20,925
And

1022
00:37:21,485 --> 00:37:23,485
Okay. So I wanna say, first of all,

1023
00:37:23,485 --> 00:37:24,864
welcome to team Kickboxer.

1024
00:37:25,530 --> 00:37:26,010
We have,

1025
00:37:27,210 --> 00:37:29,070
we have cookies in the back.

1026
00:37:29,449 --> 00:37:30,590
Feel free to help yourself.

1027
00:37:30,890 --> 00:37:31,630
Will do.

1028
00:37:33,210 --> 00:37:34,650
I'm glad you fell out on the wrong,

1029
00:37:34,650 --> 00:37:36,170
on the right side of history on that

1030
00:37:36,170 --> 00:37:37,070
one, my dude.

1031
00:37:39,204 --> 00:37:41,045
I'm gonna, I'm gonna join you on that

1032
00:37:41,045 --> 00:37:43,204
middle shelf. I do rank it as a

1033
00:37:43,204 --> 00:37:44,984
higher middle shelf than the Bloodsport,

1034
00:37:45,924 --> 00:37:47,684
not because I think it was a better

1035
00:37:47,684 --> 00:37:49,545
movie necessarily, but

1036
00:37:49,844 --> 00:37:52,480
I I do believe that the action in

1037
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,039
it was more believable. I believe that the

1038
00:37:55,039 --> 00:37:55,539
technique

1039
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,720
was better. I didn't feel the compulsion to

1040
00:37:58,720 --> 00:38:00,559
yell at the screen at the actors telling

1041
00:38:00,559 --> 00:38:02,320
them to put their hands up so they

1042
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,099
can have some form of defense.

1043
00:38:04,844 --> 00:38:07,164
Although there was one point at the end

1044
00:38:07,164 --> 00:38:09,664
of this movie where Tong Po's just standing

1045
00:38:09,724 --> 00:38:11,264
there with his hands down,

1046
00:38:11,644 --> 00:38:12,144
letting

1047
00:38:12,925 --> 00:38:13,425
JCVD

1048
00:38:13,965 --> 00:38:14,465
just

1049
00:38:15,005 --> 00:38:16,465
run a train on him.

1050
00:38:17,885 --> 00:38:19,769
Could I just wanna pause you real quick

1051
00:38:19,849 --> 00:38:21,710
because talking about how it's the same thing.

1052
00:38:22,010 --> 00:38:24,269
There's a moment where JC is

1053
00:38:24,650 --> 00:38:26,489
just getting in a kicking, like, back and

1054
00:38:26,489 --> 00:38:28,409
forth with with another Muay Thai fighter back

1055
00:38:28,409 --> 00:38:30,409
and forth, back and forth, just like he

1056
00:38:30,409 --> 00:38:30,909
did

1057
00:38:31,210 --> 00:38:33,505
with the Muay Thai fighter in Bloodsport.

1058
00:38:33,965 --> 00:38:35,324
It I mean, the exact same thing. They're

1059
00:38:35,324 --> 00:38:36,844
just like he's like, come on. They're just

1060
00:38:36,844 --> 00:38:38,844
back and forth kicking each other. Yeah. In

1061
00:38:38,844 --> 00:38:41,805
the ribs. I remember that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

1062
00:38:41,805 --> 00:38:44,445
Yeah. What else is there? Made me think

1063
00:38:44,445 --> 00:38:45,644
of something. It

1064
00:38:46,445 --> 00:38:48,769
bro. I just thought of another movie that

1065
00:38:48,769 --> 00:38:51,429
follows this whole story type that stars

1066
00:38:51,730 --> 00:38:53,030
that stars JCVD,

1067
00:38:53,809 --> 00:38:54,550
the quest.

1068
00:38:54,929 --> 00:38:55,829
Yep. Yep.

1069
00:38:57,650 --> 00:38:59,429
I was just thinking about the quest too.

1070
00:39:02,485 --> 00:39:04,664
Bro, get a different script writer.

1071
00:39:07,605 --> 00:39:08,905
Oh my God. All right.

1072
00:39:10,244 --> 00:39:12,005
That being said, let's go ahead and,

1073
00:39:12,500 --> 00:39:13,960
get on over to the,

1074
00:39:14,500 --> 00:39:17,539
weak connections section because there's nothing more we

1075
00:39:17,539 --> 00:39:19,319
can do here that's gonna be productive.

1076
00:39:20,019 --> 00:39:22,119
This is a weak connection.

1077
00:39:23,940 --> 00:39:26,179
Hello, everybody, and welcome to the weak connection

1078
00:39:26,179 --> 00:39:27,164
section. This is

1079
00:39:40,260 --> 00:39:42,340
Dallas Mora coming out of the Healing Place

1080
00:39:42,340 --> 00:39:43,320
Church in

1081
00:39:43,619 --> 00:39:44,760
Shreveport, Louisiana.

1082
00:39:45,780 --> 00:39:48,659
Pastor Dallas, long time listener, multiple time caller,

1083
00:39:48,659 --> 00:39:50,460
why don't you go ahead and give us

1084
00:39:50,460 --> 00:39:52,199
a one of those fantastic

1085
00:39:53,474 --> 00:39:56,295
weak connections that you always deliver so

1086
00:39:56,595 --> 00:39:57,894
so right twice.

1087
00:39:59,075 --> 00:40:01,255
Alright. I feel uncomfortable now in this podcast.

1088
00:40:02,434 --> 00:40:03,655
I'm in the building.

1089
00:40:05,635 --> 00:40:07,635
I feel about as uncomfortable as Jean Claude's

1090
00:40:07,635 --> 00:40:09,849
acting. So my thing so there was a

1091
00:40:09,849 --> 00:40:11,449
moment in the front end when, Jean Claude

1092
00:40:11,449 --> 00:40:12,750
was describing his

1093
00:40:13,130 --> 00:40:15,690
how him and his brother are brothers, but

1094
00:40:15,690 --> 00:40:17,929
they basically grew up apart. And he goes,

1095
00:40:17,929 --> 00:40:19,609
in some ways, we're different, but we're still

1096
00:40:19,609 --> 00:40:22,244
brothers. And there's this whole aspect of, like,

1097
00:40:22,485 --> 00:40:24,164
you still they're very different characters in the

1098
00:40:24,164 --> 00:40:25,465
front of the movie, but

1099
00:40:25,845 --> 00:40:27,365
there is an aspect of you may be

1100
00:40:27,365 --> 00:40:30,005
different from the people around you. But if

1101
00:40:30,005 --> 00:40:32,325
you're if you're brothers, you're you're brothers. And

1102
00:40:32,325 --> 00:40:34,644
that's the thing about as as Christians, we're

1103
00:40:34,644 --> 00:40:36,825
in this we're in this community of faith,

1104
00:40:37,139 --> 00:40:38,900
and it's kinda gone out of fashion. This

1105
00:40:38,900 --> 00:40:41,000
whole idea of calling somebody brother or sister.

1106
00:40:41,139 --> 00:40:42,199
You know? And

1107
00:40:42,579 --> 00:40:44,099
it's easy for us to kinda go, I

1108
00:40:44,099 --> 00:40:45,779
don't like that person. They're gonna stay over

1109
00:40:45,779 --> 00:40:48,920
there. But there's still our family in Christ.

1110
00:40:49,824 --> 00:40:51,344
I forgot to pull up the scripture, but

1111
00:40:51,344 --> 00:40:52,625
there is a passage where Jesus says that

1112
00:40:52,625 --> 00:40:54,065
they will know you're my disciple the way

1113
00:40:54,065 --> 00:40:55,664
you treat each other, the way that you

1114
00:40:55,664 --> 00:40:56,164
love

1115
00:40:56,465 --> 00:40:57,204
each other,

1116
00:40:57,505 --> 00:40:59,265
and we are called to love our brothers

1117
00:40:59,265 --> 00:41:00,644
and sisters in Christ regardless

1118
00:41:01,105 --> 00:41:02,625
of who they are or what they look

1119
00:41:02,625 --> 00:41:05,300
like or what they've done. Doesn't necessarily mean

1120
00:41:05,300 --> 00:41:06,739
that, like, if they've done us dirty or

1121
00:41:06,739 --> 00:41:08,179
if they've done wrong, that we just bring

1122
00:41:08,179 --> 00:41:09,619
them close to us, and we're gonna be

1123
00:41:09,619 --> 00:41:11,619
our best friends for life. No. We gotta

1124
00:41:11,619 --> 00:41:13,059
know how to put people in a place

1125
00:41:13,059 --> 00:41:14,820
where, like but we still show them love.

1126
00:41:14,820 --> 00:41:16,734
We still show them grace because they're still

1127
00:41:16,734 --> 00:41:18,434
our family in Christ.

1128
00:41:18,894 --> 00:41:20,815
Scott was preaching on a very similar message

1129
00:41:20,815 --> 00:41:22,974
about that today, actually, and he has a

1130
00:41:22,974 --> 00:41:25,375
great line. He goes, you can choose your

1131
00:41:25,375 --> 00:41:27,135
friends, but you cannot choose your brother and

1132
00:41:27,135 --> 00:41:29,949
sister in Christ because if they're in Christ,

1133
00:41:29,949 --> 00:41:31,570
then they are a sibling in Christ

1134
00:41:31,869 --> 00:41:33,010
regardless. And,

1135
00:41:33,390 --> 00:41:35,070
you know, we all have that Jerry Springer

1136
00:41:35,070 --> 00:41:36,510
side of the family, and maybe we and

1137
00:41:36,510 --> 00:41:37,789
we have some Jerry Springer side of the

1138
00:41:37,789 --> 00:41:39,150
family in the body of Christ, and we're

1139
00:41:39,150 --> 00:41:41,070
like, you're a bit crazy. You can stay

1140
00:41:41,070 --> 00:41:43,244
right there. But we still love them. We

1141
00:41:43,244 --> 00:41:45,005
still try to show them respect. We still

1142
00:41:45,005 --> 00:41:48,125
try to encourage them and walk through things

1143
00:41:48,125 --> 00:41:50,204
where we can, and so my encouragement to

1144
00:41:50,204 --> 00:41:52,525
us is we are like, geek devotions as

1145
00:41:52,525 --> 00:41:54,625
a whole, we are a multi

1146
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:56,659
denominational interdenominational

1147
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:58,320
ministry as a whole. We got people who

1148
00:41:58,320 --> 00:41:59,380
are baptist, Presbyterian.

1149
00:42:00,159 --> 00:42:02,239
We got baptistals like John here.

1150
00:42:02,559 --> 00:42:03,859
We got Presmicostal.

1151
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:05,380
I concur with that.

1152
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:08,800
But we have a a range of of

1153
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:10,864
things here, but we're still the family of

1154
00:42:10,864 --> 00:42:12,804
God. We may have some things that are

1155
00:42:13,025 --> 00:42:13,925
different theologically

1156
00:42:14,304 --> 00:42:16,484
about some stuff, but it's not salvific,

1157
00:42:16,945 --> 00:42:18,704
and it's okay. We can rock them out.

1158
00:42:18,704 --> 00:42:20,085
And there are people in our community

1159
00:42:20,385 --> 00:42:22,144
that we're all very different. We all see

1160
00:42:22,144 --> 00:42:24,065
things differently. We all operate differently on a

1161
00:42:24,065 --> 00:42:26,339
personality level, but we still love each other.

1162
00:42:26,639 --> 00:42:27,780
Say what? Nothing.

1163
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:29,780
I'm kidding everybody.

1164
00:42:31,119 --> 00:42:33,440
So but there's still our family in Christ,

1165
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,300
and we need to do our best to

1166
00:42:35,599 --> 00:42:37,844
encourage each other, help each other out. So

1167
00:42:37,925 --> 00:42:38,984
that's my weak connection.

1168
00:42:39,284 --> 00:42:40,804
No. What I said, Dallas, I'm not I'm

1169
00:42:40,804 --> 00:42:42,505
not throwing rocks and hiding hands.

1170
00:42:42,885 --> 00:42:44,644
What, what what I said was you you're

1171
00:42:44,644 --> 00:42:46,405
like, we all have all these differences, and

1172
00:42:46,405 --> 00:42:48,425
I'd whispered in the mic, and you're right.

1173
00:42:50,244 --> 00:42:52,469
I kid, though. That's cool. I actually have

1174
00:42:52,469 --> 00:42:53,449
one because

1175
00:42:54,309 --> 00:42:56,230
the connection I have wouldn't have made sense

1176
00:42:56,230 --> 00:42:59,050
until we covered this episode because the scripture

1177
00:42:59,190 --> 00:43:00,329
I'm pulling from

1178
00:43:00,789 --> 00:43:02,650
is from James

1179
00:43:03,190 --> 00:43:04,650
1 chapter 1

1180
00:43:05,085 --> 00:43:07,405
verse 17, which is every good gift and

1181
00:43:07,405 --> 00:43:09,724
every perfect gift is from above coming down

1182
00:43:09,724 --> 00:43:12,125
from our father of lights with whom there

1183
00:43:12,125 --> 00:43:13,184
is no variation

1184
00:43:14,045 --> 00:43:15,824
or shadow due to change.

1185
00:43:16,284 --> 00:43:19,005
And it was inspired by watching both of

1186
00:43:19,005 --> 00:43:20,385
these movies and

1187
00:43:20,980 --> 00:43:23,780
realizing between the two movies that there is

1188
00:43:23,780 --> 00:43:24,599
no variation

1189
00:43:25,460 --> 00:43:27,559
or shadow due to change

1190
00:43:28,099 --> 00:43:29,559
because they're the same movie.

1191
00:43:29,940 --> 00:43:32,099
And so it's a good analog of how

1192
00:43:32,099 --> 00:43:34,360
God is because God doesn't change

1193
00:43:34,934 --> 00:43:35,434
from

1194
00:43:35,735 --> 00:43:36,954
1988 to 1989,

1195
00:43:37,894 --> 00:43:42,055
his mercy and his precepts don't change from

1196
00:43:42,055 --> 00:43:45,094
1988 to 89. They are the same today,

1197
00:43:45,094 --> 00:43:48,279
yesterday, and forever. As the Bible says, Same

1198
00:43:48,279 --> 00:43:49,900
as the stories between kickboxer

1199
00:43:50,359 --> 00:43:51,179
and Bloodsport.

1200
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,199
God's love is never ending and always in

1201
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,460
and it always in enduring.

1202
00:43:59,079 --> 00:44:01,099
Same as the plot between kickboxer

1203
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:02,139
and Bloodsport.

1204
00:44:03,594 --> 00:44:06,635
Jesus will love you no matter what happens

1205
00:44:06,635 --> 00:44:08,655
in it, same as the storylines

1206
00:44:09,114 --> 00:44:10,175
between kickboxer

1207
00:44:10,474 --> 00:44:11,215
and Bloodsport.

1208
00:44:11,755 --> 00:44:13,195
This is what we can learn from these

1209
00:44:13,195 --> 00:44:13,934
two movies.

1210
00:44:14,315 --> 00:44:16,394
That despite the fact that there is no

1211
00:44:16,394 --> 00:44:18,735
variation between these two films,

1212
00:44:19,199 --> 00:44:21,199
we can learn from these movies that there

1213
00:44:21,199 --> 00:44:24,179
is also no variation in God. And sometimes,

1214
00:44:24,559 --> 00:44:26,880
no variation at all can be a very

1215
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:27,619
good thing.

1216
00:44:28,559 --> 00:44:31,280
The most tongue in cheek, weak connection I've

1217
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,119
ever seen you do. But it works so

1218
00:44:33,119 --> 00:44:34,019
well. Right?

1219
00:44:34,364 --> 00:44:36,625
It does. I wanna I saw

1220
00:44:37,324 --> 00:44:38,764
hey, Ben Ben. I don't know if you

1221
00:44:38,764 --> 00:44:40,925
listen to this show, but if you do,

1222
00:44:40,925 --> 00:44:42,784
I I need your opinion on this.

1223
00:44:44,764 --> 00:44:45,985
Oh my gosh.

1224
00:44:47,349 --> 00:44:47,849
Alright.

1225
00:44:48,150 --> 00:44:50,389
So that being said, thanks so much for

1226
00:44:50,389 --> 00:44:52,069
listening everybody. We had a lot of fun

1227
00:44:52,069 --> 00:44:54,409
making these. We're going into something super special

1228
00:44:54,789 --> 00:44:56,809
as you can tell with the mysterious

1229
00:44:57,349 --> 00:44:59,530
breaks that you're hearing in these transmissions.

1230
00:45:00,150 --> 00:45:01,210
Dun dun dun.

1231
00:45:01,664 --> 00:45:03,925
There's a big thing coming up.

1232
00:45:04,385 --> 00:45:06,465
I'm just kinda stepping outside the narrative at

1233
00:45:06,465 --> 00:45:08,545
the end of the episode here. Dallas and

1234
00:45:08,545 --> 00:45:10,304
I have plans for this year. We want

1235
00:45:10,304 --> 00:45:11,744
this year Oh, we got plans.

1236
00:45:12,224 --> 00:45:13,824
We want this year to be the year

1237
00:45:13,824 --> 00:45:16,929
that the bottom shelf really takes off. Not

1238
00:45:16,929 --> 00:45:18,469
because we're trying to be

1239
00:45:19,010 --> 00:45:19,510
hipster

1240
00:45:20,210 --> 00:45:20,710
podcast

1241
00:45:21,010 --> 00:45:23,969
idols and make a bajillion dollars, but mostly

1242
00:45:23,969 --> 00:45:25,909
just because we really like doing this.

1243
00:45:26,369 --> 00:45:28,130
And we think it would be really neat

1244
00:45:28,130 --> 00:45:30,264
if we could do this, like, as it

1245
00:45:30,264 --> 00:45:31,704
was for you guys to laugh at our

1246
00:45:31,704 --> 00:45:32,204
stupidity

1247
00:45:32,744 --> 00:45:34,684
and maybe do cool things and bring

1248
00:45:34,985 --> 00:45:37,784
famous people on to laugh at stupid things

1249
00:45:37,784 --> 00:45:40,025
with us. So I don't know. It's a

1250
00:45:40,025 --> 00:45:41,945
thought. If you wanna help us out, recommend

1251
00:45:41,945 --> 00:45:43,804
us to your friends, like and subscribe.

1252
00:45:44,184 --> 00:45:45,644
Go do stuff

1253
00:45:45,989 --> 00:45:47,750
to get our name out there, and tell

1254
00:45:47,750 --> 00:45:48,949
us what you want us to do to

1255
00:45:48,949 --> 00:45:51,030
help us get our name out there. Tell

1256
00:45:51,030 --> 00:45:53,449
us how we can serve you better.

1257
00:45:53,750 --> 00:45:55,510
Dallas, how can people tell us to how

1258
00:45:55,510 --> 00:45:57,670
to serve them better? Yeah. You can reach

1259
00:45:57,670 --> 00:46:00,014
out to us. We are on Instagram and

1260
00:46:00,014 --> 00:46:01,934
Facebook. Just look for the bottom shelf. Don't

1261
00:46:01,934 --> 00:46:04,014
forget to leave comments on the YouTube videos

1262
00:46:04,014 --> 00:46:06,355
we post up. Also, we have a discord

1263
00:46:06,414 --> 00:46:09,214
channel for the, Geek Devotions as a whole,

1264
00:46:09,214 --> 00:46:11,469
and we have a whole section in the

1265
00:46:11,469 --> 00:46:11,969
Discord,

1266
00:46:12,510 --> 00:46:13,949
for the bottom shelf, where we would love

1267
00:46:13,949 --> 00:46:15,469
to talk to you guys about the bottom

1268
00:46:15,469 --> 00:46:17,869
shelf and these terrible movies that all seem

1269
00:46:17,869 --> 00:46:19,469
to be the same things. And don't worry,

1270
00:46:19,469 --> 00:46:21,390
folks. As far as I know, we're not

1271
00:46:21,390 --> 00:46:23,489
doing any more Jean Claude Van Damme movies

1272
00:46:23,775 --> 00:46:26,594
this month. This month. Absolutely not.

1273
00:46:27,295 --> 00:46:28,974
I don't know. Now that we talked about

1274
00:46:28,974 --> 00:46:30,194
universal soldier

1275
00:46:30,734 --> 00:46:32,355
and the expendables too.

1276
00:46:35,054 --> 00:46:36,114
We'll find out.

1277
00:46:37,349 --> 00:46:39,989
Tune in next time on no next, next

1278
00:46:39,989 --> 00:46:41,829
month, next month. If you guys want to

1279
00:46:41,829 --> 00:46:43,670
participate with us next month, we are going

1280
00:46:43,670 --> 00:46:45,910
to be covering Indiana Jones and the temple

1281
00:46:45,910 --> 00:46:46,570
of doom,

1282
00:46:46,950 --> 00:46:49,289
as well as suburban commando.

1283
00:46:50,585 --> 00:46:52,984
Wow. Yes. Like, we we have made mention

1284
00:46:52,984 --> 00:46:54,764
of both those movies in

1285
00:46:55,144 --> 00:46:56,364
both these episodes.

1286
00:46:57,065 --> 00:46:59,545
And the reason is is because that those

1287
00:46:59,545 --> 00:47:00,525
movies legitimately

1288
00:47:01,065 --> 00:47:01,565
qualify

1289
00:47:01,864 --> 00:47:03,944
for the like, this is gonna be part

1290
00:47:03,944 --> 00:47:05,909
of our theme. There are some movies that

1291
00:47:05,909 --> 00:47:08,309
we're, like, trying to figure out from our

1292
00:47:08,309 --> 00:47:10,789
childhood. Like, did we just have bad taste

1293
00:47:10,789 --> 00:47:12,089
or what's going on?

1294
00:47:13,349 --> 00:47:15,030
So, yeah, come on this ride with us

1295
00:47:15,030 --> 00:47:16,650
this year because it's gonna be

1296
00:47:17,349 --> 00:47:18,010
a doozy,

1297
00:47:18,534 --> 00:47:20,375
and we want you to join along, join

1298
00:47:20,375 --> 00:47:22,054
on with us. Like I said, towards the

1299
00:47:22,054 --> 00:47:23,335
end of the year, there's going to be

1300
00:47:23,335 --> 00:47:25,255
a big, big, big, big event. That's going

1301
00:47:25,255 --> 00:47:26,474
to tie everything together

1302
00:47:27,014 --> 00:47:28,394
and there will be

1303
00:47:28,775 --> 00:47:29,275
prizes.

1304
00:47:30,135 --> 00:47:32,074
And when I say prizes, I mean,

1305
00:47:32,460 --> 00:47:34,460
prizes that you'll want. I'm not gonna give

1306
00:47:34,460 --> 00:47:36,219
you when I when I play when I

1307
00:47:36,219 --> 00:47:37,900
play the prize game, I play the prize

1308
00:47:37,900 --> 00:47:39,659
game for stuff that people will be excited

1309
00:47:39,659 --> 00:47:40,940
about. So I'm not gonna give you a

1310
00:47:40,940 --> 00:47:43,900
cracker jack thing. So stay tuned, everybody. It's

1311
00:47:43,900 --> 00:47:44,800
gonna be good.

1312
00:47:45,260 --> 00:47:47,885
But until next time, stay devoted.

1313
00:47:48,505 --> 00:47:49,405
Peace and love.