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Hello, kitties. It's your old pal John Kucir,

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the voice of the cryptkeeper,

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and you're listening to

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the bottom shelf.

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Oh, crap. Oh, we're almost at the mid

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month marker.

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Dallas.

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Dallas.

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What? I'm I'm reading assassination classroom. What do

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you want? We gotta get we gotta we

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gotta do another episode, man. We don't wanna

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get down to only doing 1 in the

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month again. We gotta grab something recent.

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Recent.

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Recent.

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I have a Reese's. I don't have a

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Reese's.

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Gosh. Everything's just amazing in theaters right now.

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Oh, yeah. So good. What's what's that thing

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in our cob labs over there?

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We got this thing that says madam

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madam

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madam madam Webb?

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Madam Webb? Supposed to be in the Spider

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man universe?

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I sense a disturbance in the web. Did

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someone say Spider Man?

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Hey, buddy. Why are you blooping?

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Prepare yourself to discover a world of terrible

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movies.

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High above the planet, Geekery, a group of

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intrepid explorers hover over the dangerous planet in

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their fabulous super orbital spacecraft.

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Their mission, to conduct a complete analysis of

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movies known throughout the universe as

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terrible.

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So grab your space popcorn, grab your freeze

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dried ice cream, and join us for today's

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mission of discovery and wonder.

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Are these movies better than the galaxy thinks?

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Or do they really belong

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on the bottom shelf?

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Welcome, movie lovers, movie haters, and movie

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apathetics.

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To this is another episode of the bottom

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shelf. Yay. And joining me today, as always,

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my cap oh, captain, my captain, we have

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Dallas

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the muscle mora.

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Hello. Nobody's ever called me the muscle. I

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feel I feel happy. I'm normally the fat

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guy in the corner.

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Well, and and then next to the fat

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guy in the corner, we have

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force ghost bam.

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Hello.

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I have returned.

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Boogie. Boogie.

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Spooky.

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That's the wrong kind of ghost, isn't it?

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That that's that's about as Halloween as we're

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probably gonna get this month.

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There's spiders. That's Halloweeny.

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Yeah. So we're we're doing something weird here

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and not going with the obvious theme for

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this month. We're doing our own little theme

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for October. We're having spider month,

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and,

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kicking it off this month, we are doing

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relatively

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newish

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schlock

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madam Webb. Yeah. Dallas,

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can

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you tell

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us a little bit intro the movie for

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us a little bit? Yeah. So let me

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pull up the database here.

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2024,

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Sony had to release a Spider Man film

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to keep their licensing.

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They dug deep into the beloved Spider Verse

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to bring to life madam Webb,

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realizing that they were dealing with a beloved

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property with an abundance of established floor. They

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hired Matt Zama,

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the very man who struck gold with his

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winning strategy of ignoring all the lore with

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his movies,

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Morbius and Power Rangers.

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But then with the desire to make a

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blockbuster movie proper,

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the Phil somehow

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unique,

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different,

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ungod.

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They hired S. J. Clarkson, who directed 30

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TV series and

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movie. That's

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winning strategies,

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starring Dakota,

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Johnson who,

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had about 50 shades of emotions that were

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indistinguishable.

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Quite talented. A confused Sydney Sweeney,

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Isabelle Mercedes or Mercied,

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who was still wondering where Swiper was, Celeste

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O'Connor, who was looking for a proton pack,

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and Tahar Rahim, who didn't realize they were

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actually filming all of his read throughs, not

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his actual acting

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scenes. And it was just an awkward situation.

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You you've got me looking forward to this.

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bam.

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Maybe you can read the back of the

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box and try to sell me on it.

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Okay. I'll do my best. Let's see here.

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Madame Web tells the standalone origin story of

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1 Marvel Publishing's most enigmatic heroines.

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The suspense driven thriller stars Dakota Johnson as

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Cassandra Webb, a paramedic in Manhattan who may

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have clairvoyant abilities.

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Forced to confront revelations about her past, she

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forges a relationship with 3 young women destined

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for powerful futures if they can all survive

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a deadly present.

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Did somebody say something about presents? I love

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presents.

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It this movie is a gift

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to who?

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Is there a term problem?

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But I I haven't watched it yet.

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Let's let's let's talk trivia. Okay? Maybe I

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can sell myself if I just access our

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Internet movie databases.

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Okay. It says here that

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this movie is unusual from car, Marvel Comics

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related movies as apparently, there is no

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post credit

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scene for this movie,

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we don't have to sit through the trailer

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the credits at least. Right? Oh, good. Because

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I really have to pee already.

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I'm not necessarily heartbroken over that. I mean,

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that that that thing's gotten old.

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though she's admitted in interviews that she has

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never seen a Marvel film except for a

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quarter of one of them. And when asked

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to name the past 3 Spider Man films,

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she was unable to name any of them

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correctly, listing them as follows.

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Spider Man, here he comes.

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Spider Man, and he's back.

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And then the goblet of Spider Man.

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This is this is

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giving me hope.

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This is a new hope?

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I'm actually interested in those.

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Marvel movie based on a character that did

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not have their own self titled comic series,

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had plans for either Andrew Garfield or Tom

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Holland to appear as Spider Man,

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but ultimately cut all references to Spider Man

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from the final version of this film.

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I have thoughts.

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Great. Take.

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The live action of debut this is the

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live action debut of Spider Man related characters

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Cassandra Webb,

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Julia Carpenter, Anya Corazon, and Mattie Franklin, and

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Ezekiel

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Sims. All of the women, except for Webb,

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have taken the mantle of Spider Woman,

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which is more famously held by Jessica Drew.

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This is this movie is loosely based on

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the book of Ezekiel

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storyline from the amazing Spiderman number 506

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through 508.

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And according to Adam,

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Marons, the filmmakers set the film in 2003

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so they could feature Britney Spears, Toxic,

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an inclusion taken by the skin of their

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teeth.

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Toxic was not published as a single until

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January 12, 2004. However,

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Britney Spears' album, In the Zone, was published

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on November 15,

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2003.

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So literally, they set this film in 2003

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so they could feature a

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20 year old Britney Spears song in November.

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I'm feeling more hulk ish than Spider Man

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ish after you're reading that trivia.

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Yeah. I was hoping that it might possibly

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sell me on this movie, but,

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like, let let let let's go into expectations

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because Do you wanna do that or do

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you wanna do community outreach first?

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Let's do community outreach because

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I have thoughts not for my expectations. Let's

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let's hit that outreach.

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Are we gonna go round robin, or are

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we gonna have someone just read them off?

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Let's let's do round robin. Sure. So, I

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will read, my dude, Jonathan Gilbert,

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who was on our Mortal Kombat episode, by

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the way, folks. Go check that out. Both

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of them, if I remember correctly. Right, John?

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I believe so. Yeah.

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Madame Web is one of those

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overhyped

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movies

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that had a chance to launch a franchise,

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and they just threw it away.

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The acting was lackluster. And oftentimes,

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Dakota Johnson's performance felt more like a table

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than a full production movie. The writing reminded

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me of an eighties b horror movie where

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everyone knows the killer is looking for them,

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but they make themselves both visible

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and vulnerable. The dinner scene,

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comes to mind for that trope.

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Over the entire movie felt overall, the entire

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movie felt like it was rushed or like

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the nineties Fantastic 4 movie,

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it was done

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to keep licensing rights with Sony. Except unlike

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the nineties Fantastic 4, Madame Web was actually

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released.

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In my opinion, the bottom shelf movie, it's

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a bottom shelf movie,

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mainly to be viewed by film students to

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learn how to not make a movie, in

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particular, a superhero movie. Based on what I've

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heard so far, I think I'd prefer the

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Nunavies Fantastic 4 movie.

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I've never been into Fantastic 4, so I

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have 0 dogs in that fight. Oh, it's

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fantastic.

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I'm sure.

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Just like the other 2 that I'm aware

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of. Or are there 3 that I know?

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Well, that goes to show you how interested

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I am. Well, here's one from,

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a friend of the show,

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John Frutiger.

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I do. Says it most certainly was a

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movie. It's been.

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It's spit in the face of a ton

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of established lore in order to fit as

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many characters as possible and tried to turn

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it from a suspend turn it into a

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suspense thriller that kept hinting at action, but

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never delivered.

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If you know the lore of the characters,

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then you see it, and you're

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severely underwhelmed.

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If you don't know the lore of the

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characters and you see it, then you're really

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confused.

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The plot and tie ins are completely incomprehensible

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for most people.

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Since I'm a fan of the movies that

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do that sort of time jump well,

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I was able to follow the disjointed logic,

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but I know that the big sticking point

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that was a big sticking point for a

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lot of people.

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And then he mentioned some,

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some spoilers to this, which I'm a read.

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So,

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it hinted at characters getting their getting their

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powers and being in a formidable force that

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never actually

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that but they never actually get them in

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the movie, and you never see this come

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to fruition.

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There is not a single legitimate fight seen

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in the entire film, and because you all

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you have are flashes and hints of what

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will happen in the future, you never get

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any you never get a good look at

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them suited up in their heroic grandness for

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any period long enough to admire it. Conclusion,

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it's a superhero movie in the same way

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that Unbreakable was a superhero movie, but with

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a worse plot.

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I'm trying to figure out if that means

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that John doesn't like

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that movie. Well, Unbreakable

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was

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it was essentially supposed to be

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only the first act of the story. Like,

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in my Shalomand said specifically, he he he

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wanted to

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do, like, just the first act. Like, up

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to where he the hero becomes the hero,

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and then he wanted to stop the story

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there because he really wanted to focus on

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the And I really wish he would have

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done that instead of making 2 more movies.

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But

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That's not true. I I I don't own

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the other 2 movies. I only have Unbreakable.

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I stopped it. I didn't even like Unbreakable.

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So I loved it. If I remember correctly,

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I think John saw Unbreakable with me when

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we were kids, and I'm pretty sure he

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enjoyed it back then too. Yeah. But I

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I I I think I understand what he's

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saying is that based on what he's

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talking here, you see them suited up, but

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they never actually do anything. Oh, they're trying

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to be unbreakable, but couldn't pull it off.

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Yeah. I think that's what he's saying.

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John, if that's not what you're saying, correct

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us.

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Alright.

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Alright.

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Dale

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spoke up and says, does it come in

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50 shades? But No. I hadn't seen it.

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Can't help you on this one.

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Alright.

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Our boy, Drake Tungsten,

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d Tungsten says,

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I've not seen it, but I've heard it's

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really dumb. They made Sydney Sweeney look kind

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of frumpy. Okay. And we got a few

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we got a few notes here from

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people in the geeks under grace,

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crew.

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We're not naming names for them for reasons.

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So first one says, love the cast, love

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the setup, never seen the 3rd act falls

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fall apart so bad.

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None of the vision comes true. Alright. From

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another member, forgettable, but not the worst movie.

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And then,

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from another one. I think you copied that

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same comment twice, bro. So what?

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Looking on the looking on the comments here,

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it looks like that last one is the

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same as the one that I just read.

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Oh, true story. Well, never mind. What's the

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Or is it a vision of the future?

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Or

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is Dallas I just had a really weird

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case of deja vu. Or is Dallas just

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really terrible at paste and copy?

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No. I we purposely aren't necessarily named name.

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There was a lot of people in the

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GUG community who gave us stuff, and so

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I I'd feel bad about naming names if

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we're not gonna name every person and read

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everyone their comments. But this is, like, these

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2 these the the 3 I had chosen,

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but these 2 specifically also they summarize basically

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what everyone was saying about it in the

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GUG community.

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Shout out to our friends at Geek Under

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Grace, by the way. Love those guys.

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Good friends of mine.

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So Alright. Let's go with our lowered

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expectations.

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Dallas, you can go first. My expectation

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is,

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I want to enjoy it.

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I have a tendency to see movies that

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are terrible and go, oh, that wasn't bad.

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And so that's what I'm hoping to do

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because,

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I like I like the idea of playing

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with characters that aren't Spider man. Don't get

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me wrong. Branson, don't be offended.

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Peter's cool, but,

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there's a lot out there, and I love

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the Spider verse movies,

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but they are pretty much focused around they're

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they're they're they're basically Miles Morales,

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movies.

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And so I'm excited to see other characters

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highlighted

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in a major way. And I'm hoping,

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if nothing else, this is like some other

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movies we talked about in the past where

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it's like, you know, if you remove the

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name,

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it's not a terrible movie. You know what

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I'm saying? Like, Dragon Ball Evolution. You remove

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Dragon Ball. It's it's an okay sci fi

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flick,

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martial arts flick. You remove Mario Brothers. Okay.

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You got a dystopian sci fi flick. It's

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it's fun to go with. So that's what

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I'm hoping for. Bam, being as you're the

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spider expert here, why don't you go next?

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I've not seen this movie before

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watching for the show.

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Heard a lot about it. Had every intention

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of seeing it when I saw the trailer,

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and then for whatever reason, I never got

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around to actually seeing it and then the

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reviews came out. And

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I readily admit I've got kind of a

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biased against it for a couple of reasons.

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1,

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I don't

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I don't like the idea

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of trying to build a universe of movies

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centered around Spider Man, but never actually including

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Spider Man. Spider Man doesn't have to be

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the focus of every movie in the universe,

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but to just

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not mention him at all. And I think

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I said this when we covered Venom, is,

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you know, the Spider man is a main

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part of Venom's backstory. So to see tell

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the story without Spider man, it just feels

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odd. And I'm afraid this is gonna be

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the same thing. We're gonna see a whole

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bunch of Spider man references, but no Spider

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man, and it's gonna be weird. Secondly,

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the

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arguing and yelling back and forth. I saw

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comments everywhere from this was the most amazing

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movie ever to this was an

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waste of money. And, basically, the two sides

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were arguing with each other saying, if you

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hate this movie, you're part of the problem,

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or if you love this movie,

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you're just pandering.

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So

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there's just a lot of stuff surrounding it.

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I'm gonna do my best

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to go in with a blank slate and

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appreciate it for what it is, but I

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don't have high hopes.

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And as far as myself,

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I will say this. There is a man

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who is very important to me, who was

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directly responsible for me wanting to become a

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podcaster.

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His name is Ben Avery, or whom I

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lovingly refer to as Ben Ben. I have

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only seen Ben Ben mad twice in my

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life,

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up up until and

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the very first time

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was on

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the strangers and aliens podcast that he does

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where he reviewed this movie.

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I prior to him reviewing that movie, I

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was unaware that Ben Ben could actually

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get mad. And, boy, was he mad. So

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I don't know that I can go in

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completely unbiased. I certainly can try,

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but

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I I don't have high hopes.

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I'll put it like that.

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As we go into the mood there, when

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you have the song. We got high hopes.

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I

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don't. I don't know. But slow it down

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and put it in a minor key.

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We

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have

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high hopes.

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We're dragging our feet, and I don't know

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how to watch this movie.

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I don't I don't I don't know how

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long Bam's force ghost is gonna last. So

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let's let's

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hit the theater.

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Dear listeners,

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this is your opportunity to escape. Our crew

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has just entered into the media projection chamber.

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What horrors and madness that they consume are

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unknown.

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Their mental state upon their return is unknown.

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You have been warned.

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This is the part where I wake up

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and realize that the past

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2 hours was a dream, and I can

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prevent all of that now. Ready?

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Go.

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Welcome, everybody, to this week's episode of the

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bot. No. Wait.

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Alright.

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That was a movie.

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Man, that's true.

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Man, that was true. Man, it was People

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people people people people

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people paid money to make that. It was

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it was exciting, and

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there was movement.

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It was just it was a rush, guys.

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Dallas sounds like an ASM Miller.

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He sounds like Bob Ross.

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So much that happened.

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Happy accents of Here here's here here we're

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gonna put a happy little plot hole,

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and then

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It's okay. There's no such thing as mistakes.

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We call them happy accidents.

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Yeah.

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No. This movie was a mistake. I I'm

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telegraphing.

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Alright. Let's let's

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maybe let's let's talk about this movie. Let's

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we this this needs to be discussed. Let's

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let's go spoiler free.

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If anybody wants to just dive in spoiler

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free, feel free to I have a spoiler

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free thing. So just so everybody knows, the

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budget was 8 $80,000,000

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for this

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piece of Oh, my gosh. Cinematic masterpiece. It

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any better.

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And it made opening weekend

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$15,000,000.

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Wow. Isn't that amazing? Oof. It's special. Real

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special. I'm sure there was a lot of

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happy little fires. Executives.

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Oh my gosh. I I'll I'll I'll I'll

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have a something legitimate. I I appreciate it

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some of it.

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Watching it, it was kinda oddly surreal at

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times because it kinda felt like 2,003.

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Like I can dig that. Like, as it

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drove like, they drove past, like, the blockbuster

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and then the music, and it was like

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and it's it's one of those things where

548
00:21:08,164 --> 00:21:10,265
it's a film that takes place in time

549
00:21:10,644 --> 00:21:13,605
and but it doesn't feel awkward. Like, it

550
00:21:13,605 --> 00:21:15,605
feels very natural to me because that's you

551
00:21:15,605 --> 00:21:18,164
know, that was my predominant teenage years right

552
00:21:18,164 --> 00:21:19,684
there. I was graduating high school and stuff

553
00:21:19,684 --> 00:21:21,765
like that. Whereas, there's some films I watch

554
00:21:21,765 --> 00:21:23,704
that they take place in 2003

555
00:21:24,220 --> 00:21:25,900
because they were made in 2003, and they

556
00:21:25,900 --> 00:21:28,000
feel very strangely out of place.

557
00:21:28,380 --> 00:21:30,019
Like, it's like like, you guys are what

558
00:21:30,019 --> 00:21:31,180
I'm talking about. Like, you watch movies, you're

559
00:21:31,180 --> 00:21:33,340
like, they're modern day, but they're all, like,

560
00:21:33,340 --> 00:21:36,380
high end fashion, specialized clothing. Like, everything looked

561
00:21:36,380 --> 00:21:38,700
very, like no. I people actually wore that.

562
00:21:38,700 --> 00:21:40,355
Like Yeah. That's the thing that people forget

563
00:21:40,355 --> 00:21:42,034
about is, like, when you watch movies, they're

564
00:21:42,034 --> 00:21:45,234
not nobody's wearing clothes that people actually wear.

565
00:21:45,234 --> 00:21:47,554
They're wearing, like, high end fashion, somebody's get

566
00:21:47,554 --> 00:21:49,714
paid to do some stuff. They make fun

567
00:21:49,714 --> 00:21:51,794
of, there's a there's a thing called the

568
00:21:51,794 --> 00:21:54,450
Disney look where you have these Disney characters

569
00:21:54,750 --> 00:21:57,470
in, like, on, like, Disney TV and the

570
00:21:57,470 --> 00:21:59,390
live action shows, and they're wearing these ridiculous

571
00:21:59,390 --> 00:21:59,890
outfits.

572
00:22:00,190 --> 00:22:03,330
And everyone's like, why are they wearing that?

573
00:22:03,470 --> 00:22:04,130
And it's

574
00:22:04,509 --> 00:22:07,809
no girl or young man wears those clothing

575
00:22:07,950 --> 00:22:09,805
at all. And in modern movies, that's how

576
00:22:09,805 --> 00:22:11,805
it is. But this, like, this felt like

577
00:22:11,805 --> 00:22:13,965
real life in some fashion. There's some stuff

578
00:22:13,965 --> 00:22:14,705
that was exaggerated,

579
00:22:15,085 --> 00:22:15,585
obviously,

580
00:22:16,525 --> 00:22:18,125
but some a lot of it was like,

581
00:22:18,125 --> 00:22:20,445
yeah. Okay. I remember seeing dudes wear that

582
00:22:20,445 --> 00:22:21,884
or girls wear that or I remember seeing

583
00:22:21,884 --> 00:22:22,829
these things take place.

584
00:22:24,269 --> 00:22:27,569
I can give a little spoiler free thought

585
00:22:27,710 --> 00:22:29,089
about this movie too.

586
00:22:29,710 --> 00:22:31,789
I think it wasn't in my trivia, but

587
00:22:31,789 --> 00:22:34,769
I'm almost for certain that Madame Web probably

588
00:22:34,909 --> 00:22:37,569
wasn't the original title for this movie.

589
00:22:38,805 --> 00:22:40,965
I I have the script right here, actually,

590
00:22:40,965 --> 00:22:42,744
and it was originally titled,

591
00:22:43,525 --> 00:22:45,465
Pepsi Product Placement, the movie.

592
00:22:48,565 --> 00:22:51,384
That's fair. That's fair. Because boy, howdy

593
00:22:52,630 --> 00:22:54,890
was Pepsi featured in this movie?

594
00:22:55,430 --> 00:22:56,089
I think

595
00:22:56,390 --> 00:22:58,150
there I will put it like this. There

596
00:22:58,150 --> 00:23:00,970
are more Pepsi product placements in this movie

597
00:23:01,190 --> 00:23:02,730
than there are fight scenes.

598
00:23:03,109 --> 00:23:05,769
Do with that, which you will. That's true.

599
00:23:08,404 --> 00:23:09,865
I felt like this movie

600
00:23:10,404 --> 00:23:10,904
I

601
00:23:11,205 --> 00:23:13,065
I I've spoken with a lot of writers,

602
00:23:13,605 --> 00:23:14,105
and

603
00:23:14,485 --> 00:23:16,485
a piece of advice that they've all given

604
00:23:16,485 --> 00:23:19,125
me is that you have to recognize that

605
00:23:19,125 --> 00:23:20,184
your first draft

606
00:23:20,539 --> 00:23:22,059
of whatever it is you're that you're writing,

607
00:23:22,059 --> 00:23:24,460
whether it's a novel, a comic book, a

608
00:23:24,460 --> 00:23:24,960
movie,

609
00:23:25,339 --> 00:23:27,980
whatever. Your first draft is always gonna be

610
00:23:27,980 --> 00:23:31,500
your worst draft. It's your suckiest draft. Don't

611
00:23:31,500 --> 00:23:33,684
try to make it perfect, just vomit on

612
00:23:33,684 --> 00:23:35,285
the page and get it out there. Don't

613
00:23:35,365 --> 00:23:37,525
because it's gonna be your worst draft. I

614
00:23:37,525 --> 00:23:40,965
felt like this movie was somebody's first draft

615
00:23:40,965 --> 00:23:41,785
of a script,

616
00:23:42,164 --> 00:23:44,404
and they just didn't go back and fix

617
00:23:44,404 --> 00:23:46,884
it. I have I have the I have

618
00:23:46,884 --> 00:23:48,484
I have it right now, Brent. Since it's

619
00:23:48,484 --> 00:23:50,779
right here. Yes. Alright. You know the the

620
00:23:50,779 --> 00:23:52,240
conspiracy murder boards

621
00:23:52,859 --> 00:23:55,259
where there's, like, there's pictures everywhere, and they're

622
00:23:55,259 --> 00:23:57,339
putting, like, strings. They're making, like, a way

623
00:23:57,339 --> 00:23:58,000
of a conspiracy.

624
00:23:58,539 --> 00:24:00,859
Yeah. Literally, that's all this was. It was,

625
00:24:00,859 --> 00:24:02,480
like, just a web of conspiracies.

626
00:24:03,019 --> 00:24:04,684
And, like, somebody take a picture of this

627
00:24:04,684 --> 00:24:06,865
and then film it in this order. Yeah.

628
00:24:07,404 --> 00:24:08,684
Well, I was just about to I was

629
00:24:08,684 --> 00:24:09,825
just about to back

630
00:24:10,445 --> 00:24:12,205
take take what Bam was saying and take

631
00:24:12,205 --> 00:24:13,644
it a step back and saying it feels

632
00:24:13,644 --> 00:24:15,644
like this the script of this movie felt

633
00:24:15,644 --> 00:24:16,785
like it was

634
00:24:17,179 --> 00:24:20,059
actually shot by outline, and they just told

635
00:24:20,059 --> 00:24:20,720
the characters,

636
00:24:21,099 --> 00:24:23,519
just say something that makes sense for this

637
00:24:23,660 --> 00:24:24,960
this part of the outline.

638
00:24:25,259 --> 00:24:26,799
That would work too. Yeah.

639
00:24:27,179 --> 00:24:29,660
It was and It's like there was no

640
00:24:29,660 --> 00:24:30,720
cleanup in post.

641
00:24:31,065 --> 00:24:31,565
No.

642
00:24:31,944 --> 00:24:32,444
And

643
00:24:32,744 --> 00:24:34,664
it was like this, it was like it

644
00:24:34,664 --> 00:24:36,524
was it was written by committee,

645
00:24:37,065 --> 00:24:37,565
and

646
00:24:38,184 --> 00:24:40,744
it was all people who don't who didn't

647
00:24:40,744 --> 00:24:44,940
understand how teenagers act. Yeah. Because I you

648
00:24:44,940 --> 00:24:46,240
know, it's not a spoiler,

649
00:24:46,619 --> 00:24:49,440
but I can guarantee you teenagers

650
00:24:49,740 --> 00:24:52,059
would not stand up on top of a

651
00:24:52,059 --> 00:24:52,559
table

652
00:24:52,859 --> 00:24:53,759
in a diner

653
00:24:54,139 --> 00:24:55,839
to dance to Britney Spears.

654
00:24:57,134 --> 00:24:58,355
And if they did

655
00:24:58,974 --> 00:25:00,894
if they did, they wouldn't be up there

656
00:25:00,894 --> 00:25:03,335
for very long. I I wanna I wanted

657
00:25:03,335 --> 00:25:04,275
to give you that.

658
00:25:04,654 --> 00:25:06,275
I knew some who did,

659
00:25:06,734 --> 00:25:08,414
but they would not be allowed to do

660
00:25:08,414 --> 00:25:09,394
it for very long.

661
00:25:09,839 --> 00:25:11,519
Right. The fact they got away with it

662
00:25:11,519 --> 00:25:13,940
as long as they did was was unrealistic.

663
00:25:14,559 --> 00:25:16,720
Yes. But is that a spoiler? I don't

664
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,240
know what's happening. I don't think that's I

665
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:19,679
don't think that's a spoiler. It doesn't give

666
00:25:19,679 --> 00:25:21,679
away anything. I wouldn't say this. I don't

667
00:25:21,679 --> 00:25:23,460
think you're wrong about that.

668
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,054
The talking about something completely different. There's this

669
00:25:27,054 --> 00:25:29,714
anime called ghost stories that is famous

670
00:25:30,414 --> 00:25:31,954
because it's dubbed

671
00:25:32,414 --> 00:25:34,994
terribly on purpose because people were like, nobody's

672
00:25:35,054 --> 00:25:37,214
gonna check, and so they just made up

673
00:25:37,214 --> 00:25:37,714
things.

674
00:25:38,174 --> 00:25:38,835
And it's

675
00:25:39,134 --> 00:25:40,015
it's it's

676
00:25:40,570 --> 00:25:42,730
wow. Like, there's some stuff that is just

677
00:25:42,730 --> 00:25:43,230
so,

678
00:25:44,490 --> 00:25:46,670
what's the word I'm looking for? Unhinged

679
00:25:47,210 --> 00:25:48,890
that they say in this in this thing.

680
00:25:48,890 --> 00:25:50,190
You're like, what?

681
00:25:53,210 --> 00:25:55,835
Because they're like, nobody's gonna care. And it

682
00:25:55,914 --> 00:25:57,674
some of the writing yeah. It kinda feels

683
00:25:57,674 --> 00:25:59,055
like they're, like, 4 words.

684
00:25:59,515 --> 00:26:00,255
Say this.

685
00:26:00,715 --> 00:26:01,195
I

686
00:26:01,595 --> 00:26:03,215
and so many of the reactions

687
00:26:04,234 --> 00:26:05,275
did not seem

688
00:26:05,674 --> 00:26:07,515
it was almost like someone said, okay. We

689
00:26:07,515 --> 00:26:09,535
really need this to happen in the movie,

690
00:26:09,595 --> 00:26:10,095
so

691
00:26:10,559 --> 00:26:12,960
say something to make it happen. Instead of,

692
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:14,480
let's figure out how to make this feel

693
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,240
natural. Let's try to figure out how to

694
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:17,299
make this feel organic.

695
00:26:18,559 --> 00:26:21,200
Characters were constantly making decisions that were not

696
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:21,940
in character

697
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:23,779
for the characters they were playing.

698
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:25,599
It was

699
00:26:26,375 --> 00:26:28,535
writing wise, it was a hot mess. It

700
00:26:28,535 --> 00:26:29,994
was an absolute hot mess.

701
00:26:30,934 --> 00:26:33,095
Yeah. I'd love to be more specific, but

702
00:26:33,095 --> 00:26:35,494
we got to wait for I will say

703
00:26:35,494 --> 00:26:38,234
acting was not great in this movie either.

704
00:26:38,455 --> 00:26:40,475
There was a lot of times that

705
00:26:40,809 --> 00:26:42,750
the acting felt really stilted,

706
00:26:43,369 --> 00:26:43,869
and

707
00:26:44,170 --> 00:26:44,670
the

708
00:26:45,130 --> 00:26:47,289
the majority of the villains lines were done

709
00:26:47,289 --> 00:26:48,109
in ADR.

710
00:26:48,730 --> 00:26:49,230
Yeah.

711
00:26:49,690 --> 00:26:52,570
And the ADR didn't always match up with

712
00:26:52,570 --> 00:26:54,484
his mouth. I guess that let's say it

713
00:26:54,484 --> 00:26:56,024
felt that way several times.

714
00:26:57,284 --> 00:27:00,325
So just black stars all around, I guess.

715
00:27:00,325 --> 00:27:01,384
I don't I

716
00:27:01,764 --> 00:27:03,044
I don't know what the opposite of a

717
00:27:03,044 --> 00:27:05,304
gold star is, but it's just like,

718
00:27:05,700 --> 00:27:06,200
no.

719
00:27:06,659 --> 00:27:08,740
Just feel the energy of the room here.

720
00:27:08,740 --> 00:27:10,359
Like, all 3 of us are just like,

721
00:27:11,460 --> 00:27:14,339
it's like, normally, I try. Normally, I try

722
00:27:14,339 --> 00:27:16,419
to mask my opinion about a movie until

723
00:27:16,419 --> 00:27:18,554
we get to the ratings, but I don't

724
00:27:18,554 --> 00:27:20,234
know that I can for the I I

725
00:27:20,315 --> 00:27:22,554
I'll try, but I I think I might

726
00:27:22,554 --> 00:27:24,154
have given it away. Let's,

727
00:27:24,634 --> 00:27:26,554
I was gonna make a song reference, but

728
00:27:26,554 --> 00:27:27,674
let's go ahead and jump to the,

729
00:27:28,394 --> 00:27:29,294
spoiler section.

730
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:31,179
Give it away.

731
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:36,700
Ladies and gentlemen,

732
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:38,700
the spoiler section.

733
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,059
Having been a teenager who has been assaulted

734
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,059
by people with weapons,

735
00:27:46,575 --> 00:27:47,554
I can 100%

736
00:27:47,934 --> 00:27:50,015
tell you that no teenager is going to

737
00:27:50,015 --> 00:27:52,255
leave a point of safety after the fact

738
00:27:52,255 --> 00:27:54,914
to go get something to eat. True that.

739
00:27:55,534 --> 00:27:57,954
That whole interaction with those girls

740
00:27:58,734 --> 00:28:01,430
in and Cassie was so weird.

741
00:28:02,690 --> 00:28:05,250
They were, like, they were they're playing over

742
00:28:05,250 --> 00:28:07,170
top that idea of, like, I don't even

743
00:28:07,170 --> 00:28:09,009
know what you call it. Like, the the

744
00:28:09,009 --> 00:28:09,509
brat

745
00:28:09,890 --> 00:28:10,390
persona

746
00:28:10,930 --> 00:28:12,529
of we're gonna do this, and we're gonna

747
00:28:12,529 --> 00:28:14,309
have fun. And and and here's the deal.

748
00:28:15,545 --> 00:28:17,464
So laying things out there, I wrote a

749
00:28:17,464 --> 00:28:18,984
lot of our our pre show stuff at

750
00:28:18,984 --> 00:28:20,424
the beginning of where we talked about where

751
00:28:20,424 --> 00:28:22,345
I was, like, describing the stuff. The direct

752
00:28:22,424 --> 00:28:24,184
the lady who directed it, and this is

753
00:28:24,184 --> 00:28:25,865
gonna I I'm getting to the point. All

754
00:28:25,865 --> 00:28:28,204
she's ever done was direct television,

755
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:30,980
shows in a singular

756
00:28:31,519 --> 00:28:34,160
TV movie. That's it. And I'm all for

757
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,240
giving people a opportunity to to do stuff

758
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,039
and grow and and make something happen. But

759
00:28:39,039 --> 00:28:40,820
the entirety of this movie,

760
00:28:41,244 --> 00:28:42,944
including the way those girls were acting,

761
00:28:43,244 --> 00:28:44,845
what you're what you're talking about just now,

762
00:28:44,845 --> 00:28:46,704
John, feels like it came from

763
00:28:47,085 --> 00:28:47,825
a CW

764
00:28:48,605 --> 00:28:51,085
TV show. I was thinking Saved by the

765
00:28:51,085 --> 00:28:53,250
Bell, but I could see that. I mean,

766
00:28:53,569 --> 00:28:56,690
the especially the ending. Holy crap. The ending

767
00:28:56,690 --> 00:28:59,410
felt like the outro credits of dadgum birds

768
00:28:59,410 --> 00:29:01,329
of prey, if any of me remembers that

769
00:29:01,329 --> 00:29:01,829
series.

770
00:29:02,609 --> 00:29:03,990
And I hate it because

771
00:29:04,450 --> 00:29:06,549
there's so much freaking potential

772
00:29:07,170 --> 00:29:08,230
with these ladies.

773
00:29:08,894 --> 00:29:09,634
Like, so

774
00:29:10,174 --> 00:29:12,894
much potential with the the characters that they

775
00:29:12,894 --> 00:29:13,634
have here.

776
00:29:14,015 --> 00:29:16,494
And, again, I I legitimately do not know

777
00:29:16,494 --> 00:29:18,255
most of these young ladies. I've seen Celeste

778
00:29:18,255 --> 00:29:20,174
O'Connor, and I like her. She was fun

779
00:29:20,174 --> 00:29:20,994
in in Ghostbusters.

780
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,000
I don't know the other ones. I have

781
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:24,940
no desire to watch 50 shades of gray.

782
00:29:25,079 --> 00:29:25,579
So

783
00:29:26,039 --> 00:29:29,160
sorry, lady, but there's so much here that

784
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,079
they could've done with. And then we get

785
00:29:31,079 --> 00:29:33,640
kept teasing all these things like, yes. Give

786
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,039
me this. Let's see this here. And they're

787
00:29:36,039 --> 00:29:37,099
like, no.

788
00:29:39,294 --> 00:29:41,054
In the in what you're you're tapping on

789
00:29:41,054 --> 00:29:42,434
a thought that I had that

790
00:29:42,734 --> 00:29:44,835
all the bad guys vision of the future

791
00:29:45,294 --> 00:29:46,734
look like a better movie than the one

792
00:29:46,734 --> 00:29:48,414
we watched. It's just like Yeah. Seeing the

793
00:29:48,414 --> 00:29:50,414
3 girls work together as a as a

794
00:29:50,414 --> 00:29:53,079
spider woman team, it's like, I wanna watch

795
00:29:53,079 --> 00:29:55,399
that movie. Why am I watching this? Even

796
00:29:55,399 --> 00:29:56,380
even that vision,

797
00:29:56,839 --> 00:29:59,639
why are they trying to kill him? Like,

798
00:29:59,639 --> 00:30:01,639
that that did more to paint them as

799
00:30:01,639 --> 00:30:03,399
the villains of this movie. Like, at that

800
00:30:03,399 --> 00:30:04,519
point of the movie, I was like, I

801
00:30:04,519 --> 00:30:06,464
kinda get why he's trying to find them.

802
00:30:06,544 --> 00:30:08,144
Because they just randomly show up in his

803
00:30:08,144 --> 00:30:10,304
apartment and kill him one day. He says,

804
00:30:10,304 --> 00:30:11,984
though, in, like, in in a in a

805
00:30:12,224 --> 00:30:13,044
just quickly

806
00:30:13,345 --> 00:30:14,724
while he's seducing

807
00:30:15,345 --> 00:30:17,585
the director of the FBI, something. I don't

808
00:30:17,585 --> 00:30:20,140
know what she is. And he's like, he

809
00:30:20,140 --> 00:30:23,579
goes Inspector McGuffin. They're they're after him because

810
00:30:23,579 --> 00:30:25,980
of what he becomes later. And so we

811
00:30:26,059 --> 00:30:27,900
that that's their way of going. This is

812
00:30:27,900 --> 00:30:29,339
how terrible of an individual I am, but,

813
00:30:29,339 --> 00:30:31,279
like, we don't know what he does.

814
00:30:31,740 --> 00:30:32,240
Right.

815
00:30:32,539 --> 00:30:33,919
And and and this is doubly

816
00:30:34,434 --> 00:30:35,255
this is doubly

817
00:30:35,795 --> 00:30:37,734
frustrating for me. And and when,

818
00:30:38,434 --> 00:30:40,134
John was read reading the,

819
00:30:40,515 --> 00:30:42,195
the trivia about how this was based on

820
00:30:42,195 --> 00:30:44,434
Ezekiel Sims, Dallas saw me lose my crap

821
00:30:44,434 --> 00:30:46,914
a little bit. I read the amazing Spider

822
00:30:46,914 --> 00:30:49,234
Man comic where they introduced Ezekiel Sims as

823
00:30:49,234 --> 00:30:49,815
a character.

824
00:30:50,210 --> 00:30:51,589
Yes. That whole story

825
00:30:52,130 --> 00:30:53,109
is all about

826
00:30:53,570 --> 00:30:56,130
a a a self sacrifice thing. Like, he

827
00:30:56,130 --> 00:30:58,210
is a guy who has spent his life

828
00:30:58,529 --> 00:31:00,769
he's not a villain. He's not a bad

829
00:31:00,769 --> 00:31:02,470
guy. He's just selfish.

830
00:31:03,125 --> 00:31:03,625
And

831
00:31:03,924 --> 00:31:05,545
in that comic arc,

832
00:31:06,005 --> 00:31:06,904
he literally

833
00:31:07,845 --> 00:31:11,365
gives sacrifices himself to save Peter. Like, there's

834
00:31:11,365 --> 00:31:13,144
this character named Morland who

835
00:31:13,445 --> 00:31:13,945
absorbs

836
00:31:15,125 --> 00:31:16,025
powers from,

837
00:31:16,485 --> 00:31:16,985
totemic

838
00:31:17,830 --> 00:31:20,570
superheroes who who have animals as their symbols.

839
00:31:21,110 --> 00:31:23,750
And Peter and Ezekiel get in a fight

840
00:31:23,750 --> 00:31:26,309
with Morland, and Ezekiel flat out like, he

841
00:31:26,309 --> 00:31:27,910
spends most of the ark saying, I don't

842
00:31:27,910 --> 00:31:30,150
get involved. I, you know, I I use

843
00:31:30,150 --> 00:31:32,234
my money to protect myself. And at the

844
00:31:32,234 --> 00:31:34,095
very end, he jumps in and

845
00:31:34,634 --> 00:31:37,355
get gives his life to save Peter. So

846
00:31:37,355 --> 00:31:39,275
the fact alone that they've made him the

847
00:31:39,275 --> 00:31:41,595
villain of this movie is a little bit

848
00:31:41,595 --> 00:31:44,234
offensive to start with because when I was

849
00:31:44,234 --> 00:31:45,694
first introduced to the character,

850
00:31:45,994 --> 00:31:48,269
he was a hero. A reluctant hero, but

851
00:31:48,269 --> 00:31:49,169
a hero nonetheless.

852
00:31:49,710 --> 00:31:51,869
And Sort of a Tony Stark sort of

853
00:31:51,869 --> 00:31:52,369
character.

854
00:31:52,909 --> 00:31:54,909
Yeah. Yeah. Like like, I don't wanna get

855
00:31:54,909 --> 00:31:56,769
involved. I don't wanna bother anything.

856
00:31:57,149 --> 00:31:58,130
But then he

857
00:31:58,509 --> 00:32:00,704
becomes that hero later. And so to see

858
00:32:00,704 --> 00:32:02,545
him as the villain like, I I stopped

859
00:32:02,545 --> 00:32:04,625
referring to him as Ezekiel. I I just

860
00:32:04,704 --> 00:32:06,325
this is somewhat different because

861
00:32:06,785 --> 00:32:07,605
that's not

862
00:32:08,065 --> 00:32:11,025
Ezekiel Sims. That that's that's just go read

863
00:32:11,025 --> 00:32:12,545
the comic if you wanna know what what

864
00:32:12,545 --> 00:32:14,224
Ezekiel Sims is supposed to be. That might

865
00:32:14,224 --> 00:32:17,179
be the next episode on Spider Man. Seriously,

866
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:18,299
I might go review

867
00:32:18,679 --> 00:32:21,240
that comic just to fix what Adam Webb

868
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:21,980
has done.

869
00:32:24,919 --> 00:32:25,980
Oh my gosh.

870
00:32:26,279 --> 00:32:28,380
That's wild. Absolutely wild.

871
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:30,140
Yeah. Pepsi.

872
00:32:30,924 --> 00:32:31,424
Yeah.

873
00:32:32,765 --> 00:32:34,924
I didn't see Cherry Pepsi, though. That would

874
00:32:34,924 --> 00:32:36,285
have made it better if they have shown

875
00:32:36,285 --> 00:32:38,625
Cherry Pepsi somewhere. Did that exist in 2003?

876
00:32:39,164 --> 00:32:41,805
Oh, yeah, bro. Come on, man. Pepsi Cherry

877
00:32:41,805 --> 00:32:45,005
Pepsi has been around all ever as long

878
00:32:45,005 --> 00:32:47,480
as I've been alive, at least. Yeah. Although

879
00:32:48,019 --> 00:32:49,859
back in the eighties, they called it wild

880
00:32:49,859 --> 00:32:52,680
cherry because Yeah. Because it's wild, man.

881
00:32:54,579 --> 00:32:57,480
I'm more of a Doctor Pepper guy myself.

882
00:32:57,539 --> 00:32:59,644
Yeah. I like Doctor Pepper. I pretty much

883
00:32:59,644 --> 00:33:02,044
don't drink anything with caffeine in it anymore,

884
00:33:02,044 --> 00:33:05,644
so I'm not any kind of caffeinated soda

885
00:33:05,644 --> 00:33:07,404
guy. I used to drink the best out

886
00:33:07,404 --> 00:33:08,384
of Mountain Dew.

887
00:33:09,244 --> 00:33:11,325
Like, Mountain Dew was my drink. That was.

888
00:33:11,325 --> 00:33:13,244
Oh, I did too until my anxiety set

889
00:33:13,244 --> 00:33:16,519
in. Hey, welcome to the Cola talk. Today,

890
00:33:16,819 --> 00:33:19,220
we're talking to our favorite Cola drinks from

891
00:33:19,220 --> 00:33:22,099
the eighties nineties and beyond. And it's still

892
00:33:22,099 --> 00:33:24,440
more interesting than this than this movie.

893
00:33:24,900 --> 00:33:27,779
Do you remember Serge? I remember Serge. I

894
00:33:27,779 --> 00:33:31,035
remember that. It came back, bro. It tried.

895
00:33:32,134 --> 00:33:34,134
I had one and I'm like, yep, that

896
00:33:34,134 --> 00:33:35,975
tasted like the nineties. And Can we talk

897
00:33:35,975 --> 00:33:38,055
about the fact that they've replaced the name

898
00:33:38,055 --> 00:33:40,535
for Sierra Mist? And for some reason, it

899
00:33:40,535 --> 00:33:42,789
tastes different now? It it tastes the same

900
00:33:42,789 --> 00:33:44,470
to me, but you know why they changed

901
00:33:44,470 --> 00:33:46,309
the name. Right? Yeah. There was some, like,

902
00:33:46,869 --> 00:33:48,390
they were doing a cease and desist on

903
00:33:48,390 --> 00:33:51,210
a lady whose name was Sierra Mist. Right.

904
00:33:51,350 --> 00:33:53,109
And they were trying to take over her

905
00:33:53,109 --> 00:33:55,830
socials because that was her name. Yeah. So

906
00:33:55,830 --> 00:33:57,855
she sued them. She was she was bad

907
00:33:57,855 --> 00:33:58,835
for their brand.

908
00:34:00,815 --> 00:34:03,215
So she sued them. Yeah. And so that's

909
00:34:03,215 --> 00:34:06,654
awesome. It's is it starry now? Yeah. Yeah.

910
00:34:06,654 --> 00:34:08,894
Starry bits? But it it tastes different to

911
00:34:08,894 --> 00:34:11,409
me, though. Oh, it's it's I think it's,

912
00:34:11,809 --> 00:34:12,309
psychosomatic,

913
00:34:12,610 --> 00:34:14,449
my dude, because It took a Sierra Mist

914
00:34:14,449 --> 00:34:16,369
was was was is a staple. Sierra Mist

915
00:34:16,369 --> 00:34:19,090
and Mountain Dew Code Red, those were my

916
00:34:19,090 --> 00:34:20,849
drinks I had on my lunch breaks at

917
00:34:20,849 --> 00:34:23,329
Hollywood video. I did like Code Red. Code

918
00:34:23,329 --> 00:34:25,684
Red was good. Yeah. Yeah.

919
00:34:26,385 --> 00:34:28,144
So we're talking about the movies. I was

920
00:34:28,144 --> 00:34:29,505
about to say the fact the fact that

921
00:34:29,505 --> 00:34:31,905
we just spent probably about 5 minutes talking

922
00:34:31,905 --> 00:34:34,325
about soda instead of this movie should speak

923
00:34:35,025 --> 00:34:35,525
volume.

924
00:34:35,905 --> 00:34:37,364
Like, oh, my. This movie

925
00:34:37,690 --> 00:34:40,570
for for as for as much flash and

926
00:34:40,570 --> 00:34:42,090
bang as there was in this movie. And

927
00:34:42,090 --> 00:34:44,570
there was there was a lot of visual

928
00:34:44,570 --> 00:34:45,690
effect flash in this movie.

929
00:34:47,369 --> 00:34:49,070
It's a pretty forgettable movie.

930
00:34:49,610 --> 00:34:50,110
It

931
00:34:50,489 --> 00:34:52,885
it tries to. I agree with Froediger in

932
00:34:52,885 --> 00:34:54,724
that it tries to cram too much into

933
00:34:54,724 --> 00:34:56,344
this movie, and as a result,

934
00:34:56,724 --> 00:34:58,565
nothing comes out of it. I think that

935
00:34:58,565 --> 00:35:00,324
might be 90% of the problem is they

936
00:35:00,324 --> 00:35:01,764
just try and they they they have a

937
00:35:01,764 --> 00:35:03,385
problem with doing this with,

938
00:35:03,924 --> 00:35:05,864
Spider Man properties, and Sony,

939
00:35:06,269 --> 00:35:09,230
specifically, is cramming so much in. Celeste and

940
00:35:09,230 --> 00:35:09,730
I,

941
00:35:10,349 --> 00:35:11,710
Celeste is gonna be on the show originally,

942
00:35:11,710 --> 00:35:13,710
but she, couldn't be stay up this late.

943
00:35:13,710 --> 00:35:14,989
But we were talking about it, and it

944
00:35:14,989 --> 00:35:16,510
would have been so much better if they

945
00:35:16,510 --> 00:35:18,465
had just not included the girls at all.

946
00:35:18,625 --> 00:35:19,684
Had just been Cassie,

947
00:35:20,144 --> 00:35:20,965
kinda learning

948
00:35:21,344 --> 00:35:23,265
what the crap is happening, taking the trip

949
00:35:23,265 --> 00:35:23,925
to Peru,

950
00:35:24,945 --> 00:35:28,065
dealing with the the the jungle Spider Man

951
00:35:28,065 --> 00:35:28,565
people,

952
00:35:28,945 --> 00:35:31,744
and even having Ezekiel chasing. I'm okay if

953
00:35:31,744 --> 00:35:34,005
Ezekiel being a bad guy if they just

954
00:35:34,130 --> 00:35:34,949
make him

955
00:35:35,329 --> 00:35:36,230
interesting. And,

956
00:35:37,329 --> 00:35:38,469
like, he'll he's chasing

957
00:35:38,769 --> 00:35:39,670
her for whatever reason

958
00:35:40,050 --> 00:35:40,550
and

959
00:35:40,929 --> 00:35:43,329
end it there with a vision of the

960
00:35:43,329 --> 00:35:43,829
future.

961
00:35:44,210 --> 00:35:46,309
But the way they did this whole thing,

962
00:35:46,755 --> 00:35:49,554
like, I like, because the way it started,

963
00:35:49,554 --> 00:35:51,315
I'll be okay. We're gonna play by the

964
00:35:51,315 --> 00:35:51,815
typical,

965
00:35:52,275 --> 00:35:55,074
you know, time future rules. And what's gonna

966
00:35:55,074 --> 00:35:58,434
happen is that Ezekiel's gonna, quote, unquote, die,

967
00:35:58,434 --> 00:36:00,295
but we're gonna see that he didn't die,

968
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:01,960
and that's why the girls are attacking him

969
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,599
later. That's gonna be the there's no reason

970
00:36:04,599 --> 00:36:06,059
for them to have powers.

971
00:36:06,519 --> 00:36:08,300
It's not even addressed. Do anything.

972
00:36:08,599 --> 00:36:10,680
It's not even addressed. And I could I

973
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:11,820
could I could understand

974
00:36:12,119 --> 00:36:12,280
the

975
00:36:13,034 --> 00:36:15,755
because she has future telling powers, make her

976
00:36:15,755 --> 00:36:18,335
the protector of of of somebody.

977
00:36:18,714 --> 00:36:20,234
But I think the story would have worked

978
00:36:20,234 --> 00:36:22,394
better if with that vein, if they had

979
00:36:22,394 --> 00:36:23,934
dropped it to just 1 girl.

980
00:36:24,474 --> 00:36:27,034
Choose one of the future Spider Woman, and

981
00:36:27,034 --> 00:36:27,534
then

982
00:36:28,070 --> 00:36:30,230
let let the only time you see her

983
00:36:30,230 --> 00:36:32,550
in a suit is when I was about

984
00:36:32,550 --> 00:36:33,449
to call her Jessica.

985
00:36:33,829 --> 00:36:35,449
Cassandra. When Cassandra

986
00:36:36,150 --> 00:36:38,389
has a vision of the future, she knows

987
00:36:38,389 --> 00:36:40,469
what the single girl becomes. And I think

988
00:36:40,469 --> 00:36:41,829
you could have made it work with any

989
00:36:41,829 --> 00:36:42,809
of the girls, honestly.

990
00:36:43,805 --> 00:36:46,204
Or just take one movie about the 3,

991
00:36:46,204 --> 00:36:48,445
the team of the 3 going after the

992
00:36:48,445 --> 00:36:50,605
dude. Yeah, that would have been a fun

993
00:36:50,605 --> 00:36:51,105
movie.

994
00:36:51,405 --> 00:36:54,045
Yeah, that would have worked too. It's it's

995
00:36:54,045 --> 00:36:54,864
almost like

996
00:36:55,244 --> 00:36:57,244
they picked the worst possible part of the

997
00:36:57,244 --> 00:36:59,010
story to tell. You know?

998
00:37:01,570 --> 00:37:03,090
I just had that just gave me a

999
00:37:03,090 --> 00:37:05,650
thought. I thought about that part in the

1000
00:37:05,650 --> 00:37:08,769
Bible where David's being pursued by Paul and

1001
00:37:08,769 --> 00:37:11,829
then David cuts off a piece of Paul's

1002
00:37:14,394 --> 00:37:16,014
garments, not Paul, Saul's garments

1003
00:37:16,554 --> 00:37:18,554
in the table. He's taken a dump in

1004
00:37:18,554 --> 00:37:21,855
the cave. Yeah. Like, this movie is just

1005
00:37:21,994 --> 00:37:24,255
a big focus on Saul taking a dump.

1006
00:37:27,819 --> 00:37:30,539
Yes. To put it in perspective, yes, it's

1007
00:37:30,539 --> 00:37:32,859
a part of a much better and more

1008
00:37:32,859 --> 00:37:35,579
meaningful narrative. But just because it's part of

1009
00:37:35,579 --> 00:37:37,420
it doesn't mean that it's gonna hold up

1010
00:37:37,420 --> 00:37:40,139
on its own. Right? Yeah. Well, it's a

1011
00:37:40,139 --> 00:37:42,174
lot. Sorry. Go on, Ritzel. I was just

1012
00:37:42,174 --> 00:37:44,255
gonna say, my my first exposure to Madame

1013
00:37:44,255 --> 00:37:46,414
Web was actually the nineties cartoon. Spider Man

1014
00:37:46,574 --> 00:37:48,255
Heck yes. Spider Man nineties cartoon. That's the

1015
00:37:48,255 --> 00:37:49,614
first time I ever knew that Madame Web

1016
00:37:49,614 --> 00:37:50,594
was even a character.

1017
00:37:50,974 --> 00:37:53,454
And so I have a very specific idea

1018
00:37:53,454 --> 00:37:55,214
in my head of what Madame Web is

1019
00:37:55,214 --> 00:37:56,734
supposed to look like, what she's supposed to

1020
00:37:56,734 --> 00:37:58,570
be capable of, and

1021
00:37:58,949 --> 00:37:59,929
this ain't it.

1022
00:38:00,309 --> 00:38:01,289
This ain't it.

1023
00:38:01,909 --> 00:38:03,590
You know, the the fact that she can

1024
00:38:03,590 --> 00:38:05,769
see the future, I think that her blindness

1025
00:38:06,309 --> 00:38:07,590
should have been a bigger part of the

1026
00:38:07,590 --> 00:38:10,070
story. What if what if the reason she

1027
00:38:10,070 --> 00:38:11,849
starts having visions of the future,

1028
00:38:12,315 --> 00:38:15,275
what triggers that power is that she goes

1029
00:38:15,275 --> 00:38:15,775
blind.

1030
00:38:16,074 --> 00:38:17,994
This is something that Celeste asked us. Why

1031
00:38:17,994 --> 00:38:21,295
were her powers so, like, absolutely nonexistent

1032
00:38:21,755 --> 00:38:24,074
until this point of the movie? Like, she's

1033
00:38:24,074 --> 00:38:26,234
clearly a woman in her thirties or something

1034
00:38:26,234 --> 00:38:28,110
like that. Maybe close to 40 something years

1035
00:38:28,110 --> 00:38:30,210
old. She's clearly an older woman.

1036
00:38:31,390 --> 00:38:33,869
Why is her powers just now kicking in?

1037
00:38:33,869 --> 00:38:35,869
Because she died. No. They started kicking in

1038
00:38:35,869 --> 00:38:37,730
before that. Oh, yeah. They were working before.

1039
00:38:37,950 --> 00:38:40,484
No. They didn't. Yes. Oh, they did. Yeah.

1040
00:38:40,484 --> 00:38:42,644
They did. They started right when oh. Well,

1041
00:38:42,644 --> 00:38:44,884
I can't help you. I've I forgot that

1042
00:38:44,884 --> 00:38:47,144
she had her first premonition before she died.

1043
00:38:47,204 --> 00:38:49,364
It would have been great if, it's weird.

1044
00:38:49,364 --> 00:38:50,404
It would have been great if she died

1045
00:38:50,404 --> 00:38:52,085
first. But, no, like, it would have made

1046
00:38:52,085 --> 00:38:53,539
more sense if she had died first, and

1047
00:38:53,539 --> 00:38:55,859
then Mhmm. It triggered something. Like, it was,

1048
00:38:55,859 --> 00:38:57,139
like, one of, like, the venom still in

1049
00:38:57,139 --> 00:38:59,059
her body and it healed her and also

1050
00:38:59,059 --> 00:39:00,739
unlocked some stuff in her when it healed

1051
00:39:00,739 --> 00:39:03,780
her. But it just didn't make sense. Like,

1052
00:39:03,780 --> 00:39:05,780
there's not a lot of thought in some

1053
00:39:05,780 --> 00:39:08,335
of the stuff. And I I Right. Like,

1054
00:39:08,335 --> 00:39:10,355
there's so much lost opportunity

1055
00:39:11,055 --> 00:39:13,215
here. They could have done great stuff with

1056
00:39:13,215 --> 00:39:13,875
all this.

1057
00:39:14,175 --> 00:39:16,335
Sony could've done taken this store the the

1058
00:39:16,414 --> 00:39:19,055
just this whole world they're building here and

1059
00:39:19,055 --> 00:39:21,969
ran and done some amazing stuff outside of

1060
00:39:21,969 --> 00:39:24,849
Marvel proper as a whole. Yep. Disney would

1061
00:39:24,849 --> 00:39:26,869
not have gotten a fraction of the money,

1062
00:39:26,930 --> 00:39:28,230
and it would have been amazing.

1063
00:39:28,530 --> 00:39:30,769
But it and here's the deal. This is

1064
00:39:30,849 --> 00:39:32,930
I heard somebody explain this. Sony has to

1065
00:39:32,930 --> 00:39:35,764
do put out a Spider man based movie

1066
00:39:35,824 --> 00:39:37,905
every so every so often in order to

1067
00:39:37,905 --> 00:39:38,724
keep the licensing.

1068
00:39:39,105 --> 00:39:41,664
And, basically, what it was is this movie

1069
00:39:41,664 --> 00:39:43,744
was there. Oh, quick. Throw out a script

1070
00:39:43,744 --> 00:39:45,984
because we are about to lose all the

1071
00:39:45,984 --> 00:39:47,799
spider money. It's the same thing they do

1072
00:39:47,799 --> 00:39:50,119
with Morbius. They just Yeah. There's something out

1073
00:39:50,119 --> 00:39:52,519
there. Yeah. And with crazy layers That's pretty

1074
00:39:52,519 --> 00:39:53,960
par for the course. That's the reason why

1075
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,059
we got those, I guess, 3

1076
00:39:56,359 --> 00:39:56,859
terrible

1077
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,400
Fantastic 4 movies is because they were trying

1078
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,179
to hang on to that license.

1079
00:40:01,704 --> 00:40:03,724
Mhmm. Does some of the Fantaspor?

1080
00:40:04,025 --> 00:40:06,824
No. That was a 20th Century Fox. Somebody

1081
00:40:06,824 --> 00:40:07,804
outside of

1082
00:40:08,184 --> 00:40:08,684
Marvel.

1083
00:40:09,065 --> 00:40:10,764
But, yeah, that that's the reason why.

1084
00:40:11,224 --> 00:40:12,824
Too. So yeah. I'd

1085
00:40:13,704 --> 00:40:14,764
and I get that

1086
00:40:15,110 --> 00:40:17,210
as a business decision, why?

1087
00:40:17,510 --> 00:40:20,789
But they're they're playing with characters that see,

1088
00:40:20,789 --> 00:40:23,670
that's that's the thing about the the quarter

1089
00:40:23,670 --> 00:40:25,670
of the Marvel Universe that is specific to

1090
00:40:25,670 --> 00:40:26,489
Spider Man.

1091
00:40:26,789 --> 00:40:29,285
It is so vast on its own that

1092
00:40:29,285 --> 00:40:32,244
you actually could have an entire universe of

1093
00:40:32,244 --> 00:40:32,744
stories

1094
00:40:33,045 --> 00:40:34,405
that have nothing to do with the rest

1095
00:40:34,405 --> 00:40:36,825
of Marvel. Kind of like Batman and DC.

1096
00:40:37,125 --> 00:40:41,125
Right. Batman's universe is so fleshed out that

1097
00:40:41,125 --> 00:40:42,985
you could have a whole,

1098
00:40:44,289 --> 00:40:46,769
universe of stories. A whole TV show about

1099
00:40:46,769 --> 00:40:48,230
Gotham that doesn't feature

1100
00:40:49,329 --> 00:40:50,469
Batman at all.

1101
00:40:50,929 --> 00:40:53,489
So it's it's not that they're hurting for

1102
00:40:53,489 --> 00:40:55,569
characters. They they're they're they've got plenty of

1103
00:40:55,569 --> 00:40:58,344
characters to play with. Mhmm. But it

1104
00:40:59,065 --> 00:41:00,905
and I get the the the business side

1105
00:41:00,905 --> 00:41:03,224
of it, but I almost wish what I

1106
00:41:03,224 --> 00:41:04,364
wish they could do

1107
00:41:04,824 --> 00:41:06,985
is and I had thought about this way

1108
00:41:06,985 --> 00:41:09,625
back when when they were first wrapping up

1109
00:41:09,625 --> 00:41:11,005
things with with Marvel.

1110
00:41:11,385 --> 00:41:12,765
Let them have a movie

1111
00:41:13,139 --> 00:41:13,639
where

1112
00:41:14,099 --> 00:41:15,880
Peter Parker and Miles Morales

1113
00:41:16,500 --> 00:41:18,900
finally meet, and they do their Spider Verse

1114
00:41:18,900 --> 00:41:20,199
thing, and then

1115
00:41:20,500 --> 00:41:23,960
let Miles Morales become the official Spider Man

1116
00:41:24,019 --> 00:41:24,839
of the MCU.

1117
00:41:25,344 --> 00:41:28,224
Let Peter Parker become the official Spider Man

1118
00:41:28,224 --> 00:41:30,224
of Sony. And then that way, they don't

1119
00:41:30,224 --> 00:41:32,545
have to play together anymore. And Sony can

1120
00:41:32,545 --> 00:41:34,085
make their Spider Verse movies,

1121
00:41:34,545 --> 00:41:36,485
and Marvel can make all their

1122
00:41:36,864 --> 00:41:39,445
Marvel movies with a Spider Man emblem,

1123
00:41:39,780 --> 00:41:40,280
and

1124
00:41:40,579 --> 00:41:42,980
have fun. Go to town. And you don't

1125
00:41:42,980 --> 00:41:45,059
have to worry about playing catch up with

1126
00:41:45,059 --> 00:41:47,460
any kind of connected universe anymore. To be

1127
00:41:47,460 --> 00:41:49,380
perfectly honest, I don't think anybody I don't

1128
00:41:49,380 --> 00:41:50,199
think the

1129
00:41:50,660 --> 00:41:53,195
word Marvel movie carries the weight it once

1130
00:41:53,195 --> 00:41:55,434
did anymore either. So It doesn't. Oh, it

1131
00:41:55,434 --> 00:41:58,394
doesn't. It doesn't. That's why that's I mean,

1132
00:41:58,394 --> 00:41:59,514
I hate to say it, but that's why

1133
00:41:59,514 --> 00:42:01,434
I think it ought to be Bells Morales

1134
00:42:01,434 --> 00:42:03,434
with the MCU and Peter Parker with the

1135
00:42:03,434 --> 00:42:04,255
SOTY verse.

1136
00:42:04,554 --> 00:42:05,375
Mhmm. Because

1137
00:42:06,079 --> 00:42:08,480
Peter Parker is the classic character, and Sony's

1138
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,420
trying to build off of those classic characters.

1139
00:42:10,559 --> 00:42:12,320
And that's not a knock against Miles Morales.

1140
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,420
I love Miles Morales' Spider Man. Mhmm.

1141
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:16,980
I thoroughly enjoy his story.

1142
00:42:17,519 --> 00:42:19,199
But for what Sony is trying to do,

1143
00:42:19,199 --> 00:42:20,684
Peter Parker just works better.

1144
00:42:21,244 --> 00:42:23,505
Mhmm. I can give you that. Alright. Well,

1145
00:42:24,204 --> 00:42:26,605
does anybody have anything else they wanna say

1146
00:42:26,605 --> 00:42:29,505
or thoughts they wanna share prior to giving

1147
00:42:30,045 --> 00:42:30,545
your

1148
00:42:30,925 --> 00:42:31,425
rating?

1149
00:42:31,724 --> 00:42:32,704
Let's let's

1150
00:42:33,300 --> 00:42:35,460
include the fact that that that they did

1151
00:42:35,460 --> 00:42:37,860
try to squeeze in some Spiderman isms in

1152
00:42:37,860 --> 00:42:40,980
it. They Yes. They had a a young

1153
00:42:40,980 --> 00:42:41,800
Ben Parker

1154
00:42:42,260 --> 00:42:45,140
who was wearing the the the the Ben

1155
00:42:45,140 --> 00:42:45,640
Parker,

1156
00:42:46,884 --> 00:42:47,784
what do you call it,

1157
00:42:49,284 --> 00:42:49,784
knitted

1158
00:42:50,164 --> 00:42:52,404
jacket thing, that we see in the movies

1159
00:42:52,404 --> 00:42:52,904
later.

1160
00:42:53,525 --> 00:42:54,244
They had,

1161
00:42:54,884 --> 00:42:56,984
Peter. Technically, they had Peter.

1162
00:42:57,684 --> 00:43:00,119
Yeah. And it wasn't it wasn't a and

1163
00:43:00,119 --> 00:43:02,059
I appreciate it. This wasn't a,

1164
00:43:02,359 --> 00:43:04,519
you know, we're gonna ignore the existence of

1165
00:43:04,519 --> 00:43:06,460
Peter Parker and all that as a whole.

1166
00:43:06,519 --> 00:43:08,679
It was those Jimmy, there's a Peter Parker

1167
00:43:08,679 --> 00:43:11,400
there. Mhmm. And but it was super before

1168
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,480
his before he was Yeah. Broke right as

1169
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,815
he's being born. And they had a form

1170
00:43:16,195 --> 00:43:17,414
of the famous line,

1171
00:43:17,795 --> 00:43:20,114
but that was listed as when you take

1172
00:43:20,114 --> 00:43:21,014
on the responsibility,

1173
00:43:21,875 --> 00:43:24,275
great power will come, which I kinda like

1174
00:43:24,275 --> 00:43:26,195
the way that's phrased out. I legitimately like

1175
00:43:26,195 --> 00:43:28,280
that. I did too. I I I thought

1176
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:29,880
that was a nice nod to the the

1177
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:30,780
source material,

1178
00:43:31,079 --> 00:43:33,239
but also looking at that concept from a

1179
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:36,519
completely different angle. It's the idea that when

1180
00:43:36,519 --> 00:43:38,219
you choose to take all the responsibility,

1181
00:43:38,519 --> 00:43:40,875
that's what gives you the power. Instead of

1182
00:43:40,875 --> 00:43:42,474
you've got this power, now you have to

1183
00:43:42,474 --> 00:43:43,295
have the responsibility.

1184
00:43:43,755 --> 00:43:46,155
I like that reversal. I will say if

1185
00:43:46,155 --> 00:43:47,594
you want to talk about the Spider Man

1186
00:43:47,594 --> 00:43:49,614
isms or the spider isms,

1187
00:43:50,074 --> 00:43:50,815
the spasms,

1188
00:43:51,914 --> 00:43:52,414
and

1189
00:43:52,875 --> 00:43:53,934
it doesn't matter.

1190
00:43:54,349 --> 00:43:56,349
At the end when they're all in the

1191
00:43:56,349 --> 00:43:59,150
hospital room, and she's all like, oh, being

1192
00:43:59,150 --> 00:44:01,150
an uncle's great. It's all the fun of

1193
00:44:01,150 --> 00:44:03,090
having a kid with none of the responsibility.

1194
00:44:04,190 --> 00:44:06,269
And then she's like, that's what he thinks.

1195
00:44:06,269 --> 00:44:07,949
It's just like she's making light of the

1196
00:44:07,949 --> 00:44:10,244
fact that, oh, Spider Man's parents are gonna

1197
00:44:12,565 --> 00:44:14,565
die. That's just she she just has the

1198
00:44:14,565 --> 00:44:16,425
grin on her face. It's like, how inappropriate.

1199
00:44:16,724 --> 00:44:19,445
That's just more proof that the writing had

1200
00:44:19,445 --> 00:44:21,445
zero thought behind it. They just put it

1201
00:44:21,445 --> 00:44:23,065
down because they were like, teehee.

1202
00:44:23,684 --> 00:44:24,744
Yeah. Definitely.

1203
00:44:25,285 --> 00:44:27,670
So it yeah. There was a lot of

1204
00:44:27,670 --> 00:44:29,269
things true for most that was true for

1205
00:44:29,269 --> 00:44:31,030
most of the movie. They were having reactions

1206
00:44:31,030 --> 00:44:33,510
that just didn't make sense. Like, the the

1207
00:44:33,510 --> 00:44:35,670
the girls are being hunted by a killer.

1208
00:44:35,670 --> 00:44:36,869
They're out in the middle of the woods,

1209
00:44:36,869 --> 00:44:38,950
and I think someone mentioned this earlier. Hey.

1210
00:44:38,950 --> 00:44:40,650
I'm hungry. Let's just go to a diner.

1211
00:44:40,805 --> 00:44:42,965
Yeah. And and and eat. And so they're

1212
00:44:42,965 --> 00:44:44,184
sitting there. They're eating.

1213
00:44:44,805 --> 00:44:47,545
Again, supposedly being hunted down by this killer.

1214
00:44:47,845 --> 00:44:49,845
And then, hey. There's a bunch of cute

1215
00:44:49,845 --> 00:44:51,525
boys at the table. Let's go flirt with

1216
00:44:51,525 --> 00:44:52,744
them. And then,

1217
00:44:53,079 --> 00:44:54,519
hey. There's a song I like. Let's get

1218
00:44:54,519 --> 00:44:56,039
on the table and dance. We're supposed to

1219
00:44:56,039 --> 00:44:57,659
be laying low. We're supposed to

1220
00:44:58,119 --> 00:45:00,519
not be easy to find. It it it

1221
00:45:00,519 --> 00:45:01,659
was almost like

1222
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:03,799
they said, we want this fight scene in

1223
00:45:03,799 --> 00:45:06,554
this diner. But here's the problem. They have

1224
00:45:06,554 --> 00:45:09,135
effectively removed themselves from all digital cameras.

1225
00:45:09,514 --> 00:45:10,815
How are we going to

1226
00:45:11,275 --> 00:45:12,094
make them

1227
00:45:12,474 --> 00:45:14,315
give give an excuse for why the killer

1228
00:45:14,315 --> 00:45:16,315
can find them there? I know. Let's have

1229
00:45:16,315 --> 00:45:18,315
a guy see them making a fool of

1230
00:45:18,315 --> 00:45:20,474
themselves and call the phone. You know, call

1231
00:45:20,474 --> 00:45:22,769
the police and say, hey. Those 3 girls

1232
00:45:22,769 --> 00:45:24,230
that were supposedly kidnapped,

1233
00:45:24,530 --> 00:45:27,090
yeah, they're totally fine flirting with a football

1234
00:45:27,090 --> 00:45:28,789
team at this diner.

1235
00:45:29,250 --> 00:45:31,190
You know, it just all of it seemed

1236
00:45:31,650 --> 00:45:33,969
random. Well, even though, like, all the stuff

1237
00:45:33,969 --> 00:45:35,890
that was really random that we're, like, all

1238
00:45:35,890 --> 00:45:37,474
of a sudden there's action. Those are all

1239
00:45:37,474 --> 00:45:39,275
the things they put together in the trailer

1240
00:45:39,275 --> 00:45:40,474
to make us think this is an action

1241
00:45:40,474 --> 00:45:42,635
packed movie. Right. And and so I put

1242
00:45:42,635 --> 00:45:44,474
up brought it up in in our community

1243
00:45:44,474 --> 00:45:47,835
outreach about how they deceptively piece the trailers

1244
00:45:47,835 --> 00:45:49,630
together to go, man, they're gonna be we're

1245
00:45:49,630 --> 00:45:52,109
gonna have the the 3 spider women going

1246
00:45:52,109 --> 00:45:54,429
at it, fighting. Let's go. You know, we're

1247
00:45:54,429 --> 00:45:56,670
thinking that Cassandra's been training these young ladies

1248
00:45:56,670 --> 00:45:58,349
to be mighty warriors of the web or

1249
00:45:58,349 --> 00:46:00,210
whatever you wanna say. And

1250
00:46:00,670 --> 00:46:02,609
all they did was just paste and copy.

1251
00:46:02,855 --> 00:46:04,375
I mean, at first when I first saw

1252
00:46:04,375 --> 00:46:06,054
the trailer, I thought I was like, oh,

1253
00:46:06,054 --> 00:46:07,894
are they are they playing with, like, Spidey

1254
00:46:07,894 --> 00:46:09,094
when he was wearing the black suit and

1255
00:46:09,094 --> 00:46:10,534
he was working for shield? Like, what's going

1256
00:46:10,534 --> 00:46:12,214
on here? And he goes, no. No. That's

1257
00:46:12,214 --> 00:46:12,714
Ezekiel.

1258
00:46:13,174 --> 00:46:15,269
Okay. Cool. And you see him

1259
00:46:15,590 --> 00:46:18,070
awkwardly in costume, out of costume in the

1260
00:46:18,070 --> 00:46:20,710
same scene. Yeah. And then can we can

1261
00:46:20,710 --> 00:46:22,250
somebody explain to me

1262
00:46:22,710 --> 00:46:24,090
the dream sequence

1263
00:46:24,390 --> 00:46:25,210
where she's

1264
00:46:25,670 --> 00:46:28,230
talking to Ezekiel, getting this information all of

1265
00:46:28,230 --> 00:46:30,375
a sudden, and then will you see that?

1266
00:46:30,375 --> 00:46:32,535
How does that happen? Very convenient that your

1267
00:46:32,535 --> 00:46:34,535
ability to see the future also gives you

1268
00:46:34,535 --> 00:46:35,035
telepathy

1269
00:46:35,414 --> 00:46:35,914
because

1270
00:46:36,295 --> 00:46:36,795
reasons.

1271
00:46:37,335 --> 00:46:38,934
I mean Just like the ability to see

1272
00:46:38,934 --> 00:46:40,614
the future also allows you to be in

1273
00:46:40,614 --> 00:46:41,835
3 places at once

1274
00:46:42,135 --> 00:46:43,355
because reasons.

1275
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,219
But he didn't know who Cassie was

1276
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,160
until after that till, like like, it was,

1277
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:51,800
like, a like, till she got back. He

1278
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:53,099
had no idea who she was.

1279
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,239
I can't explain it to you. This is

1280
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:58,119
a this is a literary device called deus

1281
00:46:58,119 --> 00:46:58,940
ex machina

1282
00:46:59,474 --> 00:46:59,974
where

1283
00:47:00,434 --> 00:47:01,175
it happens

1284
00:47:01,555 --> 00:47:02,614
because it happens

1285
00:47:03,315 --> 00:47:04,295
because it happens.

1286
00:47:04,755 --> 00:47:07,255
The whole movie was like that. Yeah.

1287
00:47:08,835 --> 00:47:09,335
Mhmm.

1288
00:47:10,515 --> 00:47:12,579
Let's get our rating, guys. Yeah. Yes. Do

1289
00:47:12,579 --> 00:47:15,219
that. Let's do that. Dallas, why don't you

1290
00:47:15,219 --> 00:47:17,619
go ahead and discuss the ratings, give the

1291
00:47:17,619 --> 00:47:19,800
definition to possible new listeners.

1292
00:47:20,260 --> 00:47:21,460
Yeah. So if you guys are new to

1293
00:47:21,460 --> 00:47:23,000
the bottom shelf, we have a

1294
00:47:24,074 --> 00:47:26,954
4 tier system for rating movies. It's it's

1295
00:47:26,954 --> 00:47:29,114
very complicated. There's a lot of math and

1296
00:47:29,114 --> 00:47:30,014
number crunching.

1297
00:47:30,474 --> 00:47:32,155
It's been really rough because Branson was our

1298
00:47:32,155 --> 00:47:34,954
resident mathematic person. Now he's off being forced

1299
00:47:34,954 --> 00:47:35,454
ghosty.

1300
00:47:35,835 --> 00:47:39,199
Anyways, so that being said, top shelf, this

1301
00:47:39,199 --> 00:47:41,619
is really hard to get this. You go,

1302
00:47:41,839 --> 00:47:43,519
I need to own this. I want to

1303
00:47:43,519 --> 00:47:46,400
own this on Blu ray, DVD, VHS, if

1304
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:47,380
that's your jam.

1305
00:47:47,759 --> 00:47:50,799
And I wanna have this. Middle shelf is

1306
00:47:51,164 --> 00:47:53,005
I'd watch it maybe feel streaming. You know,

1307
00:47:53,005 --> 00:47:54,045
if it was on the bat in the

1308
00:47:54,045 --> 00:47:55,505
background, I might watch it.

1309
00:47:56,045 --> 00:47:59,184
Bottom shelf probably will never watch this again.

1310
00:47:59,324 --> 00:47:59,824
Just

1311
00:48:00,204 --> 00:48:02,204
even if it's on TV, I'll just flip

1312
00:48:02,204 --> 00:48:03,985
past it and go on with my life.

1313
00:48:04,125 --> 00:48:06,650
And then we have the dumpster fire

1314
00:48:07,030 --> 00:48:09,429
where we say, I will actively keep people

1315
00:48:09,429 --> 00:48:12,309
from watching this movie ever again. Let it

1316
00:48:12,309 --> 00:48:15,210
burn from existence and never be a thing.

1317
00:48:15,349 --> 00:48:17,670
And to our knowledge, to this date, no

1318
00:48:17,670 --> 00:48:18,809
film has ever

1319
00:48:19,244 --> 00:48:21,565
made it into space, but rumors speak of

1320
00:48:21,565 --> 00:48:23,565
a strange film about a bald headed kid

1321
00:48:23,565 --> 00:48:25,085
with a blue arrow. I don't know what's

1322
00:48:25,085 --> 00:48:25,904
what that's about.

1323
00:48:26,204 --> 00:48:29,085
Yeah. Yeah. So who wants to jump in

1324
00:48:29,085 --> 00:48:29,984
on this first?

1325
00:48:30,364 --> 00:48:31,884
I will because I feel like my answer

1326
00:48:31,884 --> 00:48:34,304
might be different from yours. Uh-oh. Okay.

1327
00:48:34,659 --> 00:48:37,059
Go for it. Peek behind the kimono as

1328
00:48:37,059 --> 00:48:39,780
John says. He he goes, oh my gosh.

1329
00:48:39,780 --> 00:48:40,679
And he was

1330
00:48:41,380 --> 00:48:43,619
suggesting his thing, and I went, well, I'm

1331
00:48:43,619 --> 00:48:45,719
dusting off my top shelf here, boys.

1332
00:48:46,019 --> 00:48:47,719
So that being said,

1333
00:48:48,425 --> 00:48:49,704
I was dusting my top shelf because it

1334
00:48:49,704 --> 00:48:51,304
was dirty. No. I'm putting this on the

1335
00:48:51,304 --> 00:48:52,445
bottom shelf, actually.

1336
00:48:54,184 --> 00:48:55,545
I was kinda in between, like, if it's

1337
00:48:55,545 --> 00:48:57,304
in the background and somebody's like, I wanna

1338
00:48:57,304 --> 00:48:59,704
watch this. Okay. Just so I could be

1339
00:48:59,704 --> 00:49:01,385
angry again at the fact that there's so

1340
00:49:01,385 --> 00:49:02,525
many missed opportunities,

1341
00:49:03,019 --> 00:49:04,940
but it's a bombshell film. It's not one

1342
00:49:04,940 --> 00:49:07,019
of them just, like, throw it away into

1343
00:49:07,019 --> 00:49:09,900
the ether and let it be forgotten. It's

1344
00:49:09,900 --> 00:49:12,059
almost already forgotten. I don't we don't have

1345
00:49:12,059 --> 00:49:13,579
to we don't have to put in dumpster

1346
00:49:13,579 --> 00:49:15,260
fire, but it is a I think it

1347
00:49:15,260 --> 00:49:16,539
is a great thing to point out to

1348
00:49:16,539 --> 00:49:18,885
go, this is what we could do. Like,

1349
00:49:18,885 --> 00:49:19,785
these are great

1350
00:49:20,164 --> 00:49:22,085
characters, and I I I want to stress

1351
00:49:22,085 --> 00:49:23,364
this because some people are gonna listen to

1352
00:49:23,364 --> 00:49:25,125
this and go, you're just angry because these

1353
00:49:25,125 --> 00:49:27,625
are women. No. I these are great characters.

1354
00:49:27,925 --> 00:49:28,425
Genuinely

1355
00:49:28,805 --> 00:49:32,579
amazing characters that have depth, that have warmth

1356
00:49:32,579 --> 00:49:35,619
to them, just the script. And I I,

1357
00:49:35,619 --> 00:49:37,220
again, I don't know who any of these

1358
00:49:37,220 --> 00:49:39,780
actresses are except for the one, and I

1359
00:49:39,780 --> 00:49:42,099
hope that this is a Matt problem of

1360
00:49:42,099 --> 00:49:42,599
direction

1361
00:49:43,220 --> 00:49:46,019
and script writing because these characters they've been

1362
00:49:46,019 --> 00:49:48,375
given can do some amazing things. So I'll

1363
00:49:48,375 --> 00:49:50,235
put it on the bottom shelf. Alright.

1364
00:49:50,855 --> 00:49:52,155
I'll go next so

1365
00:49:52,535 --> 00:49:54,775
Bam can be in the uncomfortable position of

1366
00:49:54,775 --> 00:49:55,994
being the tie breaker.

1367
00:49:57,974 --> 00:50:01,089
I would equate watching the for me, for

1368
00:50:01,089 --> 00:50:03,329
for the experience I had watching this movie,

1369
00:50:03,329 --> 00:50:04,869
I would put it on par

1370
00:50:05,170 --> 00:50:06,949
with drinking a lukewarm

1371
00:50:07,569 --> 00:50:09,670
cup of somebody else's vomit.

1372
00:50:09,969 --> 00:50:10,469
No.

1373
00:50:12,050 --> 00:50:14,335
Okay. I I as I when I put

1374
00:50:14,335 --> 00:50:16,494
this movie on, I kept choking it down

1375
00:50:16,494 --> 00:50:17,795
because I had to,

1376
00:50:18,175 --> 00:50:19,715
not because I wanted to,

1377
00:50:20,015 --> 00:50:22,655
which would be like if somebody told me

1378
00:50:22,655 --> 00:50:24,175
I had to drink a cup of someone

1379
00:50:24,175 --> 00:50:26,335
else's vomit, it would be very much a

1380
00:50:26,335 --> 00:50:27,474
similar situation.

1381
00:50:29,579 --> 00:50:30,800
I like

1382
00:50:31,500 --> 00:50:33,900
I sat all day looking for reasons not

1383
00:50:33,900 --> 00:50:36,380
to actually watch this movie until I had

1384
00:50:36,380 --> 00:50:36,880
to.

1385
00:50:37,660 --> 00:50:40,160
And then when I put it on, I

1386
00:50:40,460 --> 00:50:43,340
kept fidgeting with my phone and other things

1387
00:50:43,340 --> 00:50:46,005
around me because I just I was so

1388
00:50:46,005 --> 00:50:47,545
disengaged with this movie.

1389
00:50:49,444 --> 00:50:51,605
I didn't I you know, I'm not I'm

1390
00:50:51,605 --> 00:50:53,924
not gonna drag this out with flowery speed

1391
00:50:54,244 --> 00:50:56,565
dumpster fire. I this this needs to cease

1392
00:50:56,565 --> 00:50:57,090
to exist.

1393
00:50:57,969 --> 00:50:59,650
Not so much because I want to prevent

1394
00:50:59,650 --> 00:51:01,730
other people from watching this movie. I want

1395
00:51:01,730 --> 00:51:04,930
to prevent me from ever accidentally walking in

1396
00:51:04,930 --> 00:51:06,930
on it at some point in time. Like,

1397
00:51:06,930 --> 00:51:07,430
I

1398
00:51:08,210 --> 00:51:10,789
know that, like, this is mortal combat annihilation

1399
00:51:11,594 --> 00:51:12,335
territory for me.

1400
00:51:12,875 --> 00:51:13,275
So

1401
00:51:13,755 --> 00:51:15,835
I I genuinely respect that. I'm just gonna

1402
00:51:15,835 --> 00:51:16,815
tell you, I

1403
00:51:17,195 --> 00:51:20,335
I was almost there with you, and so

1404
00:51:20,635 --> 00:51:23,195
I I'm barely on the bottom. It's hanging

1405
00:51:23,195 --> 00:51:25,355
on. It's like the bottom is, like, singeing.

1406
00:51:25,355 --> 00:51:27,000
The plastic's melting a little bit. It was

1407
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:28,539
kinda like that video where

1408
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:30,920
Kevin was trying to light the fog on

1409
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:33,239
fire Mhmm. But it just wouldn't light at

1410
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:35,500
first. It's that's where it's at. Your

1411
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:38,780
your your rating is like the red headed

1412
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:39,980
glasses girl

1413
00:51:40,454 --> 00:51:42,295
from this movie at in the end scene

1414
00:51:42,295 --> 00:51:44,215
when she's just hanging on right over the

1415
00:51:44,215 --> 00:51:45,195
burning door.

1416
00:51:47,655 --> 00:51:48,155
Basically.

1417
00:51:48,695 --> 00:51:51,195
Alright, Bam. Break this tie for us.

1418
00:51:52,295 --> 00:51:54,215
Just peer into the webs and be everywhere,

1419
00:51:54,215 --> 00:51:54,715
Bryson.

1420
00:51:56,519 --> 00:51:57,420
Because reasons.

1421
00:51:58,039 --> 00:51:59,579
Yeah. I've actually

1422
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:02,300
flip flopped back and forth with my ratings

1423
00:52:02,519 --> 00:52:04,599
for the exact reasons that both of you

1424
00:52:04,599 --> 00:52:05,340
have cited.

1425
00:52:06,519 --> 00:52:08,695
I, for a little while, was in the

1426
00:52:08,695 --> 00:52:09,755
camp of the,

1427
00:52:10,135 --> 00:52:13,414
this is terrible. This is this this this

1428
00:52:13,414 --> 00:52:16,054
should not exist. This is I I hate

1429
00:52:16,054 --> 00:52:18,454
the time I spent watching this. Like, there

1430
00:52:18,454 --> 00:52:19,894
was a reason I never got around to

1431
00:52:19,894 --> 00:52:20,954
see it in theaters.

1432
00:52:21,570 --> 00:52:23,170
And and now that I've seen it, I'm

1433
00:52:23,170 --> 00:52:24,550
not glad that I saw it.

1434
00:52:25,730 --> 00:52:27,969
But on the flip side, I've also thought,

1435
00:52:27,969 --> 00:52:30,210
Dallas, what you thought about there is such

1436
00:52:30,210 --> 00:52:31,989
potential there if they had just

1437
00:52:32,450 --> 00:52:35,329
worked with it more. Picked one story, polished

1438
00:52:35,329 --> 00:52:37,775
it, done something with it other than just

1439
00:52:37,775 --> 00:52:40,094
vomited it out, it had the potential to

1440
00:52:40,094 --> 00:52:41,234
be something greater.

1441
00:52:41,614 --> 00:52:43,554
So what I'm wrestling with is,

1442
00:52:44,094 --> 00:52:46,335
do I rate it based on what it

1443
00:52:46,335 --> 00:52:46,835
is

1444
00:52:47,375 --> 00:52:49,559
or what it could be? And

1445
00:52:50,099 --> 00:52:51,319
as far as I understand,

1446
00:52:51,699 --> 00:52:53,460
the way this rating works is we're not

1447
00:52:53,460 --> 00:52:55,699
rating the show or the movie based on

1448
00:52:55,699 --> 00:52:58,420
what it could be. We're rating it based

1449
00:52:58,420 --> 00:52:59,559
on what it is.

1450
00:52:59,859 --> 00:53:01,480
And there are too many flaws.

1451
00:53:02,465 --> 00:53:03,985
I don't know that it offends me to

1452
00:53:03,985 --> 00:53:05,824
the point that I would actively try to

1453
00:53:05,824 --> 00:53:08,324
tell people not to watch it, but

1454
00:53:08,625 --> 00:53:10,085
I can't really find

1455
00:53:10,545 --> 00:53:13,605
anything redeemable about it in its form

1456
00:53:14,065 --> 00:53:15,719
right now. So

1457
00:53:16,260 --> 00:53:18,119
based on the fact that it is not

1458
00:53:18,500 --> 00:53:19,000
good

1459
00:53:19,460 --> 00:53:22,039
now, I'm gonna have to dumpster fire it.

1460
00:53:22,820 --> 00:53:25,239
Alright. So there you have it, everybody.

1461
00:53:25,619 --> 00:53:27,380
It we're this movie is going to be

1462
00:53:27,380 --> 00:53:28,519
scrubbed from existence.

1463
00:53:29,385 --> 00:53:31,405
Never shall we speak of it again.

1464
00:53:32,905 --> 00:53:34,605
What are we talking about? Right.

1465
00:53:35,065 --> 00:53:37,625
We're gonna talk about some weak connections, I

1466
00:53:37,625 --> 00:53:39,085
think. About what?

1467
00:53:43,670 --> 00:53:46,070
Welcome. It hasn't gone into the dumpster fire

1468
00:53:46,070 --> 00:53:48,309
yet, Dallas. We haven't tossed it there yet.

1469
00:53:48,309 --> 00:53:49,530
So Oh.

1470
00:53:50,230 --> 00:53:52,010
So welcome to the weak connection

1471
00:53:52,550 --> 00:53:54,710
portion of the podcast where we try to

1472
00:53:54,710 --> 00:53:55,210
find

1473
00:53:55,670 --> 00:53:56,170
something

1474
00:53:56,795 --> 00:53:58,494
redeemable, something redemptive,

1475
00:53:59,035 --> 00:54:00,815
some kind of forced message,

1476
00:54:01,195 --> 00:54:01,695
because

1477
00:54:02,075 --> 00:54:02,894
it is,

1478
00:54:04,394 --> 00:54:07,195
from the movie we just watched. You should

1479
00:54:07,195 --> 00:54:08,015
learn CPR.

1480
00:54:08,715 --> 00:54:09,215
Yes.

1481
00:54:13,019 --> 00:54:13,519
Well,

1482
00:54:13,900 --> 00:54:16,480
does anybody have anything redemptive for this movie?

1483
00:54:16,780 --> 00:54:20,300
Yeah, I do. Go for it, mister light

1484
00:54:20,300 --> 00:54:21,440
shining in the darkness.

1485
00:54:21,900 --> 00:54:24,400
You're the blue one, Branson. Oh, that's me.

1486
00:54:24,619 --> 00:54:26,059
I was I was talking about you. I

1487
00:54:26,059 --> 00:54:27,920
thought Bam I thought Bam said he didn't.

1488
00:54:28,275 --> 00:54:30,775
I did. I do, actually. Oh, well,

1489
00:54:31,315 --> 00:54:32,835
either one of you can go. So the

1490
00:54:32,835 --> 00:54:34,514
Spider fan takes take the lead on this

1491
00:54:34,514 --> 00:54:37,574
one. Spider fan. Spider fan

1492
00:54:37,875 --> 00:54:38,775
does whatever

1493
00:54:39,155 --> 00:54:40,534
a Spider fan does.

1494
00:54:41,875 --> 00:54:42,375
Alrighty.

1495
00:54:44,059 --> 00:54:46,059
On my Spider fan podcast, this is the

1496
00:54:46,059 --> 00:54:47,659
part where I'd say my spider sense is

1497
00:54:47,659 --> 00:54:48,159
tingling.

1498
00:54:49,659 --> 00:54:51,440
We mentioned before the

1499
00:54:51,980 --> 00:54:54,400
nod to with great power comes great responsibility,

1500
00:54:54,539 --> 00:54:56,559
and they said, once you accept the responsibility,

1501
00:54:56,940 --> 00:54:58,320
that's when great power

1502
00:54:58,755 --> 00:54:59,255
comes.

1503
00:54:59,635 --> 00:55:00,074
And,

1504
00:55:00,514 --> 00:55:01,974
I actually really appreciated

1505
00:55:02,514 --> 00:55:03,894
the reversal of that,

1506
00:55:04,914 --> 00:55:06,934
because it gives the idea of

1507
00:55:07,234 --> 00:55:08,994
you don't wait for you to have the

1508
00:55:08,994 --> 00:55:09,494
ability

1509
00:55:09,875 --> 00:55:11,795
to do what is right. You just do

1510
00:55:11,795 --> 00:55:13,340
what is right and trust that that when

1511
00:55:13,340 --> 00:55:15,179
the moment comes, you'll have the ability to

1512
00:55:15,179 --> 00:55:16,880
do what you need to do. Mhmm.

1513
00:55:17,739 --> 00:55:19,659
It reminds me of a something that I

1514
00:55:19,659 --> 00:55:20,159
hear,

1515
00:55:20,619 --> 00:55:22,699
quoted in churches a lot. God does not

1516
00:55:22,699 --> 00:55:25,099
call the equipped. He equips the called. Mhmm.

1517
00:55:25,260 --> 00:55:28,079
And we see examples of that throughout scripture,

1518
00:55:29,324 --> 00:55:33,005
where God calls men and women who, at

1519
00:55:33,005 --> 00:55:35,644
the time God calls them, are not prepared

1520
00:55:35,644 --> 00:55:37,644
to do the thing that God has called

1521
00:55:37,644 --> 00:55:39,885
them to do. But over time, through God's

1522
00:55:39,885 --> 00:55:42,204
redemptive work, he prepares them. He puts them

1523
00:55:42,204 --> 00:55:43,905
at the right place at the right time

1524
00:55:44,139 --> 00:55:44,960
so that they

1525
00:55:45,500 --> 00:55:47,019
can do the things that they are called

1526
00:55:47,019 --> 00:55:47,679
to do.

1527
00:55:48,539 --> 00:55:49,359
Huge example

1528
00:55:49,900 --> 00:55:50,400
is

1529
00:55:50,780 --> 00:55:51,280
Gideon.

1530
00:55:51,579 --> 00:55:53,039
When he's hiding

1531
00:55:53,340 --> 00:55:54,800
from the Philistine army,

1532
00:55:55,980 --> 00:55:58,934
trying to sort out wheat, and an angel

1533
00:55:58,934 --> 00:56:01,015
appears before him and and calls him a

1534
00:56:01,015 --> 00:56:03,994
mighty man of valor. At that point, Gideon

1535
00:56:04,055 --> 00:56:04,795
is not

1536
00:56:05,175 --> 00:56:07,755
a mighty man of valor. He's literally hiding

1537
00:56:07,974 --> 00:56:09,275
so that he doesn't get,

1538
00:56:09,974 --> 00:56:10,474
assaulted

1539
00:56:11,015 --> 00:56:13,739
while he's separating wheat from chaff. But

1540
00:56:14,139 --> 00:56:17,099
God calls him to lead the armies of

1541
00:56:17,099 --> 00:56:19,980
Israel against the Philistine army. And and and

1542
00:56:19,980 --> 00:56:21,579
really not even a full army. He he

1543
00:56:21,579 --> 00:56:23,179
breaks it down to just 300 bid by

1544
00:56:23,179 --> 00:56:24,400
the time it's over with.

1545
00:56:24,940 --> 00:56:25,260
But,

1546
00:56:25,994 --> 00:56:28,654
just that and there there's several other examples,

1547
00:56:29,594 --> 00:56:31,355
but the one I the one I really

1548
00:56:31,355 --> 00:56:33,454
wanna focus on is actually in Daniel,

1549
00:56:34,394 --> 00:56:35,694
Daniel chapter 3.

1550
00:56:36,074 --> 00:56:38,429
Let me find the verse here. So, basically,

1551
00:56:39,849 --> 00:56:40,349
Nebuchadnezzar

1552
00:56:40,890 --> 00:56:41,869
has this dream

1553
00:56:42,250 --> 00:56:44,890
of this big statue with 4 different metals,

1554
00:56:44,890 --> 00:56:48,170
and Daniel interprets it, and everything's cool. So

1555
00:56:48,170 --> 00:56:51,210
he builds a giant golden statue and tells

1556
00:56:51,210 --> 00:56:52,829
everyone that the nation of,

1557
00:56:53,434 --> 00:56:55,235
is it Babylon Leviticus or is it Babylonian

1558
00:56:55,235 --> 00:56:57,555
king? Right? He tells everyone in Babylon, when

1559
00:56:57,555 --> 00:56:59,315
you hear the trumpet, you need to bow

1560
00:56:59,315 --> 00:57:01,394
down and worship the statue. And there were

1561
00:57:01,394 --> 00:57:02,375
these 3 guys,

1562
00:57:02,994 --> 00:57:04,695
Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego.

1563
00:57:04,994 --> 00:57:06,595
That's not their Hebrew names, but I don't

1564
00:57:06,595 --> 00:57:08,535
remember their Hebrew names. Shadrach, and Benny.

1565
00:57:09,539 --> 00:57:11,719
Yeah. From the vegetale lore.

1566
00:57:12,820 --> 00:57:14,980
But they refused to bow. They refused to

1567
00:57:14,980 --> 00:57:16,200
worship. And so Nebuchadnezzar,

1568
00:57:17,940 --> 00:57:20,340
calls them out on it. And he says,

1569
00:57:20,340 --> 00:57:22,265
chapter 3 starting with verse 15, now if

1570
00:57:22,265 --> 00:57:23,704
you are ready when you hear the sound

1571
00:57:23,704 --> 00:57:26,824
of the hornpipe, lyre, trigon, harp, bagpipe, and

1572
00:57:26,824 --> 00:57:28,425
every kind of music, to fall down and

1573
00:57:28,425 --> 00:57:30,105
worship the image that I have made, well

1574
00:57:30,105 --> 00:57:32,265
and good. But if you do not worship,

1575
00:57:32,265 --> 00:57:34,344
you shall immediately be cast into a burning

1576
00:57:34,344 --> 00:57:36,570
fiery furnace. And who is the god who

1577
00:57:36,570 --> 00:57:38,269
will deliver you out of my hands?

1578
00:57:38,650 --> 00:57:41,050
Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego answered and said to

1579
00:57:41,050 --> 00:57:42,190
the king, oh, Nebuchadnezzar,

1580
00:57:42,490 --> 00:57:44,010
we have no need to answer you in

1581
00:57:44,010 --> 00:57:46,329
this matter. If this be so, our god,

1582
00:57:46,329 --> 00:57:48,010
whom we serve, is able to deliver us

1583
00:57:48,010 --> 00:57:50,275
from the burning fiery furnace, and he will

1584
00:57:50,275 --> 00:57:52,114
deliver us out of your hand, o king.

1585
00:57:52,114 --> 00:57:53,635
But if not, be it known to you,

1586
00:57:53,635 --> 00:57:55,474
o king, that we will not serve gods

1587
00:57:55,474 --> 00:57:57,235
or worship the golden image that you have

1588
00:57:57,235 --> 00:57:58,775
set up. So, basically,

1589
00:57:59,394 --> 00:58:01,335
these three guys tell Nebuchadnezzar,

1590
00:58:02,195 --> 00:58:05,150
look, you really don't have a position to

1591
00:58:05,150 --> 00:58:05,969
threaten us

1592
00:58:06,269 --> 00:58:07,949
because the god we serve is more than

1593
00:58:07,949 --> 00:58:10,269
capable of delivering this out of delivering us

1594
00:58:10,269 --> 00:58:11,170
out of this fire.

1595
00:58:11,710 --> 00:58:13,789
But if even if he does it even

1596
00:58:13,789 --> 00:58:16,114
if he does it, we're not bowing to

1597
00:58:16,114 --> 00:58:18,534
your statue. We serve the one true God.

1598
00:58:18,835 --> 00:58:21,014
And even if it leads to our death,

1599
00:58:21,315 --> 00:58:24,034
we're not backing down. And as the story

1600
00:58:24,034 --> 00:58:26,034
goes, they lead him it they lead them

1601
00:58:26,034 --> 00:58:27,714
into the fiery furnace, and the thing is

1602
00:58:27,714 --> 00:58:29,820
so hot that the people forcing these 3

1603
00:58:29,820 --> 00:58:32,460
guys into the furnace die from heat, from

1604
00:58:32,460 --> 00:58:34,140
the heat of it. And they walk into

1605
00:58:34,140 --> 00:58:34,800
the furnace,

1606
00:58:35,099 --> 00:58:37,099
and they don't burn. Not only do they

1607
00:58:37,099 --> 00:58:39,260
not burn, but Nebuchadnezzar says that he sees

1608
00:58:39,260 --> 00:58:41,440
a 4th man in the fire with them

1609
00:58:41,525 --> 00:58:43,045
who has a face like the son of

1610
00:58:43,045 --> 00:58:45,204
god. And we've come to learn that that

1611
00:58:45,204 --> 00:58:47,285
is actually an appearance of Jesus in the

1612
00:58:47,285 --> 00:58:47,945
Old Testament.

1613
00:58:48,244 --> 00:58:48,744
And

1614
00:58:49,045 --> 00:58:51,204
what I think is amazing about that story

1615
00:58:51,204 --> 00:58:54,244
is that Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego did not

1616
00:58:54,244 --> 00:58:54,744
know

1617
00:58:55,199 --> 00:58:56,260
walking to the furnace

1618
00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:58,099
that God would

1619
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:01,119
deliver them. They knew God was perfectly capable

1620
00:59:01,119 --> 00:59:02,980
of it, but there was no guarantee.

1621
00:59:03,359 --> 00:59:05,440
So they walked to that furnace willing to

1622
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:07,059
die, willing to be burned,

1623
00:59:07,425 --> 00:59:09,664
because they knew this was the law that

1624
00:59:09,664 --> 00:59:11,425
God had set down. We serve the one

1625
00:59:11,425 --> 00:59:13,505
true God, and we're not gonna step down

1626
00:59:13,505 --> 00:59:15,985
from it. They were willing to say, this

1627
00:59:15,985 --> 00:59:17,684
is the law. This is what we do.

1628
00:59:17,824 --> 00:59:19,344
And because they were willing to take that

1629
00:59:19,344 --> 00:59:20,945
leap, because they were willing to take that

1630
00:59:20,945 --> 00:59:22,625
step to say, okay. If we burn, we

1631
00:59:22,625 --> 00:59:25,500
burn, Then god comes in and delivers them.

1632
00:59:25,559 --> 00:59:27,639
God doesn't prevent them from going to the

1633
00:59:27,639 --> 00:59:28,139
furnace.

1634
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:30,920
God delivers them while they are in the

1635
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:32,139
midst of that furnace.

1636
00:59:32,599 --> 00:59:34,380
God doesn't put out the flames.

1637
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:37,000
God just keeps them from burning while they

1638
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:38,059
are in the flames.

1639
00:59:38,445 --> 00:59:40,765
And I really got that vibe with with

1640
00:59:40,765 --> 00:59:43,644
this this quote of Madame Webb of when

1641
00:59:43,644 --> 00:59:45,184
God has called you to do something,

1642
00:59:45,485 --> 00:59:46,625
you take it on

1643
00:59:46,925 --> 00:59:49,164
whether you feel qualified to do it or

1644
00:59:49,164 --> 00:59:49,664
not.

1645
00:59:50,125 --> 00:59:51,344
As a matter of fact,

1646
00:59:51,644 --> 00:59:53,639
if God is calling you to do it,

1647
00:59:53,719 --> 00:59:55,420
you're probably not qualified,

1648
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:58,519
which is exactly why God calls you. Because

1649
00:59:58,519 --> 01:00:00,119
then he gives you the power. He gives

1650
01:00:00,119 --> 01:00:02,599
you what you need. He equips you, and

1651
01:00:02,599 --> 01:00:05,079
that brings glory to him because people look

1652
01:00:05,079 --> 01:00:06,519
at that and say, man, there's no way

1653
01:00:06,519 --> 01:00:09,105
that guy could do that, but he's doing

1654
01:00:09,105 --> 01:00:09,765
it anyway.

1655
01:00:10,144 --> 01:00:10,644
Why?

1656
01:00:10,945 --> 01:00:12,625
And that opens a platform for us to

1657
01:00:12,625 --> 01:00:14,304
talk about Jesus and to say, well, the

1658
01:00:14,304 --> 01:00:16,385
reason we're able to do this is because

1659
01:00:16,385 --> 01:00:19,265
of Jesus, because we have a relationship with

1660
01:00:19,265 --> 01:00:21,585
Christ. And so that was my my weak

1661
01:00:21,585 --> 01:00:23,980
connection in the one of the few redeemable

1662
01:00:24,039 --> 01:00:26,760
things about this movie was that concept is

1663
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:27,980
that you don't wait around

1664
01:00:28,679 --> 01:00:31,000
to have to to be equipped to do

1665
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:32,920
what god calls you to do. You just

1666
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:34,440
step out in faith and do what god

1667
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:36,199
calls you to do, and then he gives

1668
01:00:36,199 --> 01:00:38,394
you the power as you're being obedient to

1669
01:00:38,394 --> 01:00:39,534
him. Alright.

1670
01:00:39,835 --> 01:00:41,775
Good deal. Captain Mora?

1671
01:00:42,074 --> 01:00:44,234
Yeah. Mine I have there's a couple that

1672
01:00:44,234 --> 01:00:45,594
I have that I can run with. I

1673
01:00:45,594 --> 01:00:47,755
wanna kinda piggyback off of Branson's because I

1674
01:00:47,914 --> 01:00:49,755
it was mine was based on the same

1675
01:00:49,755 --> 01:00:50,494
line also,

1676
01:00:51,199 --> 01:00:53,440
with that line of, you know, we take

1677
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:55,440
up responsibility, great power will come upon you.

1678
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:57,440
And there's a level of of fear when

1679
01:00:57,440 --> 01:00:59,359
the Lord goes, hey. You're gonna go do

1680
01:00:59,359 --> 01:01:00,819
something, and you're like, uh-uh.

1681
01:01:01,599 --> 01:01:02,099
And

1682
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:04,319
the impact of you walking in that, I

1683
01:01:04,319 --> 01:01:06,315
wanna encourage folks in that. It may be

1684
01:01:06,315 --> 01:01:07,994
scary, but there's a lasting impact that you

1685
01:01:07,994 --> 01:01:09,275
don't know about on the back end of

1686
01:01:09,275 --> 01:01:09,775
that.

1687
01:01:10,635 --> 01:01:12,014
I was thinking about Ananias

1688
01:01:12,635 --> 01:01:12,795
in,

1689
01:01:14,155 --> 01:01:15,454
in Acts chapter 9.

1690
01:01:15,914 --> 01:01:16,974
Paul, for context,

1691
01:01:18,590 --> 01:01:20,530
you know, he was out persecuting the Christians,

1692
01:01:20,590 --> 01:01:22,449
gets knocked off his high horse, literally,

1693
01:01:22,750 --> 01:01:24,690
gets blinded, and then he's,

1694
01:01:25,070 --> 01:01:27,869
laid up in a place waiting for for

1695
01:01:27,869 --> 01:01:29,789
the something to happen. The Lord tells him

1696
01:01:29,789 --> 01:01:31,949
to go and wait. And God shows up

1697
01:01:31,949 --> 01:01:33,489
to Ananias, and he's like, hey.

1698
01:01:34,114 --> 01:01:36,594
You're a disciple. You're cool. Get up and

1699
01:01:36,594 --> 01:01:38,194
go to this house, and you're gonna pray

1700
01:01:38,194 --> 01:01:39,255
for Saul of Tarsus.

1701
01:01:39,554 --> 01:01:41,094
And he's like, no.

1702
01:01:44,275 --> 01:01:45,014
Not happened,

1703
01:01:45,394 --> 01:01:45,894
Jesus.

1704
01:01:46,675 --> 01:01:49,969
He's trying to kill us. That kills people.

1705
01:01:50,829 --> 01:01:52,590
Yeah. You know? He's like he's looking at

1706
01:01:52,590 --> 01:01:54,590
he's looking at an impossible situation. He's looking

1707
01:01:54,590 --> 01:01:56,510
at a situation and goes, that man is

1708
01:01:56,510 --> 01:01:58,269
out to kill me, and you want me

1709
01:01:58,269 --> 01:01:59,550
to go pray for him? I mean, have

1710
01:01:59,550 --> 01:02:00,690
you missed the memo?

1711
01:02:01,734 --> 01:02:03,815
What's going on? And the Lord says, no.

1712
01:02:03,815 --> 01:02:06,315
Go do this. Because there's a lasting impact,

1713
01:02:06,375 --> 01:02:08,054
and there may be a situation where you're

1714
01:02:08,054 --> 01:02:09,335
called to do it and you have fear.

1715
01:02:09,335 --> 01:02:11,335
But if you walk in that, it may

1716
01:02:11,335 --> 01:02:13,655
not make sense, but the Lord will empower

1717
01:02:13,655 --> 01:02:15,175
you to do some stuff, to walk some

1718
01:02:15,175 --> 01:02:17,110
amazing things, and there will be a lasting

1719
01:02:17,110 --> 01:02:19,510
impact that will change the world. And, again,

1720
01:02:19,510 --> 01:02:22,230
piggybacking on what Branson said, it's not about

1721
01:02:22,230 --> 01:02:24,630
making us look good, but it's about pointing

1722
01:02:24,630 --> 01:02:25,769
to a greater purpose.

1723
01:02:26,550 --> 01:02:28,489
Nothing we do is for us.

1724
01:02:28,875 --> 01:02:30,255
It's for the greater purpose.

1725
01:02:31,114 --> 01:02:31,614
We,

1726
01:02:32,235 --> 01:02:36,155
so great, kinda minor minor segue. Recently, this

1727
01:02:36,155 --> 01:02:37,614
podcast was featured on blueberry.com

1728
01:02:38,394 --> 01:02:41,195
as podcast of the month, and, they asked

1729
01:02:41,195 --> 01:02:42,474
several questions. But one of the things to

1730
01:02:42,474 --> 01:02:44,780
point out was, like, what we do here

1731
01:02:44,780 --> 01:02:46,619
with this podcast is part of a greater

1732
01:02:46,619 --> 01:02:47,119
vision.

1733
01:02:47,500 --> 01:02:49,420
And we have fun. We laugh. We make

1734
01:02:49,420 --> 01:02:51,179
jokes, but it's to let people know who

1735
01:02:51,179 --> 01:02:53,019
love and cared for. It sounds to not

1736
01:02:53,019 --> 01:02:54,619
to the not to look at us and

1737
01:02:54,619 --> 01:02:57,679
go, John is the greatest podcaster alive.

1738
01:02:58,114 --> 01:02:59,795
I mean, it's true, but that's not the

1739
01:02:59,795 --> 01:03:02,275
point. That's I mean but it's to point

1740
01:03:02,275 --> 01:03:04,514
people back to the hope, to Christ. And

1741
01:03:04,514 --> 01:03:05,014
so,

1742
01:03:05,554 --> 01:03:07,894
I just wanna add my thoughts into Branson's

1743
01:03:07,954 --> 01:03:10,755
thing. Cool. And I'm gonna be the apostate

1744
01:03:10,755 --> 01:03:12,355
and not have anything for this. So,

1745
01:03:14,309 --> 01:03:15,910
can I just point out the fact that

1746
01:03:15,910 --> 01:03:17,450
they never explained why,

1747
01:03:18,230 --> 01:03:19,130
what's his face's

1748
01:03:19,750 --> 01:03:21,989
spider suit never showed up on the cameras

1749
01:03:21,989 --> 01:03:22,809
in the subway?

1750
01:03:23,190 --> 01:03:25,349
They did not. Just throwing that out there.

1751
01:03:25,349 --> 01:03:26,864
Another gaping plot hole.

1752
01:03:29,585 --> 01:03:30,244
So anyway,

1753
01:03:31,585 --> 01:03:34,244
I think that's all we got here. So

1754
01:03:34,625 --> 01:03:36,385
I want to thank everybody for tuning in.

1755
01:03:36,385 --> 01:03:38,324
Follow us on the socials at,

1756
01:03:39,105 --> 01:03:40,940
well, why don't you go ahead and fly

1757
01:03:40,940 --> 01:03:42,859
us out because I'm still don't got the

1758
01:03:42,859 --> 01:03:44,000
socials down, Dallas.

1759
01:03:45,260 --> 01:03:46,880
I I just made a mess of it.

1760
01:03:46,940 --> 01:03:49,679
Yeah. Hey. First off, if you like Branson,

1761
01:03:49,819 --> 01:03:52,139
if you like enjoying this conversation about Spider

1762
01:03:52,139 --> 01:03:53,819
Man and you wanna hear about some Spider

1763
01:03:53,819 --> 01:03:55,119
Man stuff that doesn't suck,

1764
01:03:55,684 --> 01:03:58,565
you should check out the spider fan the

1765
01:03:58,565 --> 01:04:00,585
friendly neighborhood spider fan podcast

1766
01:04:01,125 --> 01:04:02,264
hosted by Branson,

1767
01:04:02,965 --> 01:04:05,144
the boykin. The boykin's the boykins,

1768
01:04:06,164 --> 01:04:08,324
where he does that. He reviews he's reviewing

1769
01:04:08,324 --> 01:04:10,639
them in chronological, in order, except for, apparently,

1770
01:04:10,639 --> 01:04:12,319
the next episode where he's not gonna do

1771
01:04:12,319 --> 01:04:12,980
it in order.

1772
01:04:13,519 --> 01:04:14,000
But

1773
01:04:14,319 --> 01:04:16,480
It it'll it'll be a special episode. Be

1774
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:18,400
a special. I'll I'll record it and keep

1775
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:20,000
it in my back pocket for a a

1776
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:21,760
month where I don't have an episode. But

1777
01:04:21,945 --> 01:04:24,184
that's fair. Yeah. That's fair. Yeah. But either

1778
01:04:24,184 --> 01:04:25,485
way, Branson is,

1779
01:04:26,025 --> 01:04:28,025
he's got, that going on. But if you

1780
01:04:28,025 --> 01:04:29,485
wanna check out more of

1781
01:04:29,945 --> 01:04:31,485
of the bottom shelf,

1782
01:04:31,785 --> 01:04:33,085
check out our our

1783
01:04:33,465 --> 01:04:35,785
our socials. We're on Facebook and Instagram. Look

1784
01:04:35,785 --> 01:04:37,565
for the bottom shelf podcast.

1785
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:39,280
Also really wanna encourage you guys to check

1786
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:41,440
out the Discord channel because this is part

1787
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:43,119
of the Geek Devotions Podcast Network, which is

1788
01:04:43,119 --> 01:04:44,719
part of Geek Devotions. And we have a

1789
01:04:44,719 --> 01:04:46,639
Discord channel, and we have a whole channel

1790
01:04:46,639 --> 01:04:48,159
where we talk about bad movies. We have

1791
01:04:48,159 --> 01:04:51,199
channels within the whole Discord channel talking about

1792
01:04:51,199 --> 01:04:53,305
life, We encourage people. A lot of the

1793
01:04:53,305 --> 01:04:55,465
the comments came from that area. So we

1794
01:04:55,465 --> 01:04:57,625
really encourage you guys, be part of our

1795
01:04:57,625 --> 01:04:59,385
community. Let us love you. Let us encourage

1796
01:04:59,385 --> 01:05:00,525
you where you're at.

1797
01:05:00,985 --> 01:05:01,965
Alright. And,

1798
01:05:03,065 --> 01:05:04,525
also go check out geekdevotions.com.

1799
01:05:05,900 --> 01:05:08,719
That's you can find everything on the podcast

1800
01:05:08,940 --> 01:05:10,160
network there

1801
01:05:10,539 --> 01:05:12,000
and then some. So

1802
01:05:12,300 --> 01:05:14,719
with that, thanks everybody for listening,

1803
01:05:15,340 --> 01:05:15,840
and,

1804
01:05:17,260 --> 01:05:19,074
stay devoted, I guess. Peace

1805
01:05:19,534 --> 01:05:20,034
and

1806
01:05:20,335 --> 01:05:20,835
love.