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Hello, kitties. It's your old pal John Kucir,

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the voice of the Cryptkeeper.

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And you're listening to

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the bottom shelf.

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Must build

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Gundam.

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Alright. Must build

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Gundam.

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Dallas.

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Must. Dallas. How long how long have you

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been in here? Atomic bazookas.

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Why does it smell like Atomic bazookas. Armpit

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and

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unwashedness.

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Bro. Are you the new type? Bro. Bro.

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It's time to Hey. It we've already missed

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one movie this month. We gotta do come

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on. Let's go. My funnels are out. I

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can't leave. Tell you what tell you what.

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I I have a movie here. It puts

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the f in f 91.

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I don't do race cars.

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No. It's Gundam

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f 91,

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the movie. Did you say Gundam f 91?

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Yes.

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Follow follow the terrible movie, Dallas. Gundam.

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Follow the terrible movie. I spilled Gundam.

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Prepare yourself to discover a world of terrible

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movies.

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High above the planet Gekari, a group of

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intrepid explorers hover over the dangerous planet in

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their

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super orbital spacecraft.

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Their mission, to conduct a complete analysis of

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movies known throughout the universe as terrible.

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So grab your space popcorn, grab your freeze

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dried ice cream, and join us for today's

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mission of discovery and wonder.

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Are these movies better than the galaxy thinks?

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Or do they really belong

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on the bottom shelf?

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Hello, movie lovers and movie haters. Welcome to

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the bottom shelf, the podcast where every movie

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has a place. Our podcast is part of

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the Geek Devotions podcast network, a podcast network

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of podcasts. They're devoted to know your love.

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So if y'all will pass this moment to

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this, we love you. We care about you.

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There is a plan and a purpose for

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your life. Do not give up.

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Every time you say don't give up, I'm

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auto I my mind automatically goes to, that

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song by Peter Gabriel that nobody that nobody

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who listens to this podcast is probably old

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enough to remember.

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So it was a completely wasted reference for

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me to even throw that out there right

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now. Hi, everybody. I'm John.

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Hey, John. How are you doing, buddy?

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Hi.

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So

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what are we doing?

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You you promised me Gundam. I did promise

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you Gundam.

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Do you know anything about this movie? Oh,

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I know everything about this movie. Not everything.

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I know a lot, though, and I'm excited.

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Alright.

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They post up. Alright. In 1991, Gundam creator

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Tomino

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was working on a new Gundam series that

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was supposed to draw new fans

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to the now

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decade old franchise

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struggling to sell more toys,

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codenamed, hey state Gundam. This new project had

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major names connected to the projects.

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And this particular movie, Gundam f 91, was

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starred Koji,

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Tsujinati,

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who played with Indian who was Indianwasha, and

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he was in Street Fighter 2.

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Tsuchani.

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Tsuchani?

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Tsujitani.

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Tsujitani.

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Yumi Toma, who I'm Tekken 5 and Ama

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Goddess.

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production of the new series was unfortunately filled

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with a lot of arguing,

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a lot of,

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big headedness,

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basically,

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and led to a choppy movie,

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unfortunately. We can get more details with that

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later because it was rough. Alright.

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Now let me let me pick up the

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back of this this,

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we'll pick up the back. Let me pick

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up this box and read the back.

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It's going to be a good one today,

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folks.

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So it's universal century 1, 2, 3. Oh,

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God. It's a 1980s rap song.

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Universal Century 123

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After a generation of peace, the Earth Federation

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has begun to build new space colonies to

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house humanity's growing population.

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But a new force, the aristocratic

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crossbone vanguard,

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plans to seize and colonize the newly constructed

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frontier side for itself.

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As their home becomes a battlefield, a handful

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of young civilians struggle to escape the conflict.

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To save his friends and family, the reluctant

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warrior

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Seabook, Arno,

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becomes the new pilot

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of a new Gundam, which bears the code

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name f 91.

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So what what do the comms tell us

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about this movie? What what external

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signals have we received,

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in reference to this movie? Oh, we got

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quite a bit, but we're gonna call it

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down a little bit coming into our feed

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One person said, there were some parts of

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the story that need

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further details.

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The mecha designs were great in its animation

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too.

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Oh, I completely skipped my bit because I

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went to directly yours. I apologize for that,

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but we can do this.

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I see here one person said, I don't

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think it's infamous enough in the Gundam fandom

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nor mainstream enough to be on the bottom

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cover it on the bottom shelf.

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Oh my goodness. In all honesty, I watched

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it, and the only negative feedback I can

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it feels so rushed. It could have been

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or an even better. Otherwise, it's a good

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movie. The soundtrack is top notch.

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up there to introduce people to the franchise.

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and may have been a bit better focusing

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on world building a bit more. Overall, good

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stuff. Mhmm.

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on the plot and pacing.

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Iron Mask wasn't really a compelling villain,

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probably the 2nd worst shark clone in the

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F ninety one suffers from its production. I

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decent story, kind of gutted and rushed.

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have a great time, and I hope it

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goes well, and the engagement is through the

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roof. No. Thank you. Well

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let's hit some trivia because I skipped that

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because I'm a big dumb dummy who ate

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you're fine. Who ate dummy flakes for breakfast.

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At this Miss Countryside

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contest at the beginning of the film, a

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background character wears a jacket that reads beautiful

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life, Tomino,

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a reference to Gundam co creator,

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Yoshi Yuki, Tomino,

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Carrozo

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iron mask, Rona's characters based off the famous

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star wars villain, Darth Vader.

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even more. Iron Mask is a cyber new

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type with Darth Vader.

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While Darth Vader is a cyber Sith, both

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have powers.

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Also, Iron Mask and Darth Vader are half

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and more machine. So they're like, math doesn't

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work because you can only be half and

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half.

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this is only this is the only Gundam

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feature to be given an MPAA

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It's rated PG 13 for pervasive sci fi

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violence

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instrumental arrangements

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of the ending song Eternal Wind

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Ho Home. Ho Ho. Amy

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Ho. Amy Hua

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Hikaru.

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Kaze no Naka

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bears a striking resemblance to Wilson Phillips Hold

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On, which will excite my wife because that

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song is her jam. Really? Cool.

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Eternal Wind. I thought she was just jamming

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over there to some sweet 19 nineties, 19

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Japanese pop. Well, you know, they came out

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about the same time.

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I the hold on and the and the

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j pop. I mean, like, literally within probably

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a year of each other, maybe 2. So

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let's hit let's hit those expectations.

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Badap.

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We don't have a bumper for expectations. What

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are you expecting, Dallas?

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a lot of a mess. Alright. So cards

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on the table,

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I I own this movie. I I

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I yes. I was telling Celeste when I

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pulled it off. Is anybody shocked by about

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that at all? Maybe. I don't know. So

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bookshelf, and I said, this this has a

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special place in my heart,

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because it was one of the first,

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legal Gundam things I ever bought off of

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Amazon.

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And I ordered it, and I ordered,

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the movie that continued

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Robotech at the same time, and I got

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them both. And,

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I am expecting to,

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enjoy the animation.

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I'm expecting to,

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be angry that there are plot holes that

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could have been done better,

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and I'm going to enjoy it. There is

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probably gonna be a low in the middle,

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though. I am expecting that. Mhmm. Well, that's

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par for the course for Gundam, isn't it?

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As far as my expectations are,

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Gundams real hit and miss with me.

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There are series I like. There are series

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I'm not such a fan of. I apologize,

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but Gundam Wing is one of them for

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me. I'm not.

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I try to like it, but really, you

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know, makes me want to peel my skin

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off with a carrot peeler.

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Unless you didn't say mandolin. We're now trying

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to ban mandolin's now. And if you heard

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about that, I haven't, but I agree with

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this because

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I did my. Okay. So I'm for when

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I'm not podcasting, I'm a medical coder and

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I did my externship

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in an urgent care clinic and I saw

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more than 1 person coming in with blood

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soaked

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fabric on their arm

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because they were mandolin without a guard.

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And

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I like one lady just forearm completely opened

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up.

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Yeah. It was gnarly.

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So I get it. I don't necessarily support

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that. I'm very much, you know, freedom of

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decision type person, but I understand the reasoning

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behind it. But getting getting back to my

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my my expectations,

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I feel

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like

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peek behind the curtain here. I I don't

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think it's any shock that to say that

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Dallas is one who picked this movie,

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but I feel like you know me well

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enough to know whether or not I'm going

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to enjoy something. So I'm putting my trust

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in you for this one, Dallas,

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to

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that. I I I am expecting to see

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something

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that at least there's a logical reason why

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someone would expect me to enjoy it. You

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you're trying to see if I was in

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a good mood when I told you we're

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watching this.

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I here here's the thing. I know you

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were because we picked this right after Geekcon.

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So What was this or the alternative,

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which was an acid trip chopped together version

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of Gundam called Captain Cosmos?

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Yeah. But the link we had for that

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disappeared. So Yeah. How weird was that? Hey.

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You know what?

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September was a weird month, and we're only

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getting one episode out. So it all worked.

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Every so often, you can see God working

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behind the scenes. It worked miracles for John.

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Well, let's let's get in and see if

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what

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if I like this.

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Dear listeners,

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this is your opportunity to escape.

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Our crew has just entered into the media

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projection chamber.

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What horrors and matters that they consume are

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unknown?

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Their mental state upon their return is

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unknown.

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You have been warned.

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So what do you think, Sean? I don't

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understand how in the same scene, the animation

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can vary

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so much from shot to shot.

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There'll be there was like literally moments in

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this movie where

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the animation would be

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fantastic.

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And then,

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like, at at a blink of an eye,

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all of a sudden, it degrades, like, someone

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threw some

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some turpentine

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on the cell while we were watching it,

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and it just would blur and turn into

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a big color y

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mess. Yeah.

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You're not gonna I'm not gonna lie. That

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that

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that is one of the things about the

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film that does irk me is the,

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how choppy things get. And but here, you

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gotta remember though, and this is the problem.

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The reasoning that this is the case, and

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this is this is the back history of

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it.

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Again, a lot of disagreements, a lot of

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issues within the production.

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It was getting really, really bad. Production got

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held up, and then there was a deadline.

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And they're basically, like, we can't make a

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deadline

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for a series

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at all. And this is, again, this is

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supposed to be like a spearhead for a

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new era. This is like the Heisei era

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of Gundam. Mhmm. And Tomino had this whole

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mindset of of I don't wanna do the

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same thing. He was afraid that of continuing

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based off of just the original Gundam

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that

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people wouldn't really appreciate it because it's nothing

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fresh, nothing new, and he saw that as

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a weakness in in his storytelling. And so

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he was trying to create something brand new,

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but because of all the issues taking place

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and kind and there was a new, way

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of thinking of of production

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Mhmm. At the time in Japan,

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it really

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caused some issues. And so they're like, we

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have enough to do a movie ish. And

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so they kinda pieced together things,

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and then they had to fill in some

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gaps within a small time frame. Yeah. And

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at the same time, they're like, we gotta

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make some stuff happen. So, like, the opening

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scene where you have the,

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the enemy, I say enemy, the crossbone Gundams

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or mobile suits,

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cutting and getting into,

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the the base.

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That was beautifully animated. Like, it was cinematic.

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I thought it was gorgeous. I thought it

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was a great thing, but then you had

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other weird shots. You're like, oh, this is

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the nineties, isn't it?

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Yeah.

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And then, like,

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I I I'm glad that you eventually told

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me that this was originally supposed to be

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a series that got reduced down to a

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movie.

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Mhmm.

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Because when I first started watching it, there

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were some time jumps.

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Yeah. And

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it

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got a little bit irritating from time to

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time. It like

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I am tap dancing around this because I

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don't want to name specifics, but

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it's some it's a spoiler free comment that

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should be made

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should be made

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if whoever is listening to this is going

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to see this movie. Yeah, Definitely. Because you

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can't go into it expecting

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a consistent continuity.

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There are gonna be some gaping plot holes

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that you're gonna see in this movie that

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some might find irksome.

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Yeah. They really do jump into it. I

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remember you texted me. You're like, wow. They

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really just go after it right right out

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the gate.

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And, and they do, but they jump so

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much. There was, like, a whole, like, musical

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montage where they it feels like they jumped

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a month of storytelling.

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Oh, for sure. And that was, like, one

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of my biggest, you know,

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if if all you listen to from the

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Geek Devotions Network is the show.

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First of all, welcome. We're a whole network.

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Please check out some of our other shows.

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But outside of that,

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I used to co host with Dallas and

439
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and Branson,

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who used to be on this show on

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another show called

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the Gundam Watch. The Gundam Watch. Thank you.

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I sorry. I just was blanking on it.

444
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My mind is still in not Cuba.

445
00:17:07,910 --> 00:17:09,990
I've been I've been playing Far Cry 6

446
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again. I have 126

447
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hours in on it.

448
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But,

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yeah, so I was on the Gundam watch

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and

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it's the same thing that I was experiencing

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with Gundam Wing, where

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what we were watching

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the continuity of it, like the spaces between

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episodes wasn't always consistent. So sometimes there'd be

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several months between episodes. And it's just like

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if you can wrap your mind around that,

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you may have a better time with this

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movie

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because this this movie will jump,

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and

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it's hard to follow the logic if you

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don't understand

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that time has passed.

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Yeah. That is definitely a,

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a weak point of the film. And as

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you guys heard in the in the community

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comments,

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a lot of people point pointed that out.

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Just these gaping holes of storytelling. But, again,

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it's because they pieced together what they had

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to make a movie. This was supposed to

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be a a full length series of itself.

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Mhmm.

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I would one person mentioned about it being

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OVA. I would have liked to have seen

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this at least made into an OVA,

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and something else done with it. Mhmm.

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But it was definitely

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definitely rough. I will say this, though, even

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though that with that case, there were certain

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small details that they added within the animation

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that I thought were unnecessary, but it was

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cool. Like, there's a whole scene where,

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and the This is not the spoiler section,

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sir. Well, this is a spoiler. It's just,

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like, small thing. Like, there's a whole point

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where, like, one of the characters is, like,

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crawling and there's a snake.

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Mhmm. And, and it's, like, why why do

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that other than just to have a a

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detailed animation?

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There was another moment where one of the,

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the Jagans,

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which is a type of mobile suit had

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been knocked out of the sky, and you

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see,

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a hand

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twitching out of a malfunction just randomly Mhmm.

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As the thing is about to blow up.

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So they did it we we mentioned this

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also on the Gundam watch when we reviewed,

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Kukuru's Island, the and I think this is

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a touch of Tom of Tomino and some

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of that early team. They like to add

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these small,

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realistic details within the story,

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just to give you something to,

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reengage you at times.

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Yeah. I I can I can see that?

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So,

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I I'm trying to think of anything spoiler

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anything else spoiler free,

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that I can think of. It did feel

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a little a little bit over along

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for what it was.

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Yeah.

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And when you said that they added that

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they had their they had to punch it

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up a little bit and add some some

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stuff in there. I think that was the

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wrong maneuver. I think they should have edited

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some stuff out for a more concise and

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preferably a more consistent story. But Yeah. I

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can see that. But, again, I think it

526
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was so much there's so much done and

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not done. It's like, where do you build

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a bridge? Where do you not build a

529
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bridge situation?

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And there are places, like, I could've used

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the bridge here, but at the same time,

532
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like, man, that bridge would have been an

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episode and a half. Right. And so it

534
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was I they were in an impossible situation,

535
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but it had to go out because, really,

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they had to

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they needed to be able to launch,

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the new era of Gundam. Yeah. This wasn't

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a great launching. There's a lot of I

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think that it actually it was a double

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feature premiere

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in theaters in Japan of this

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and a new SD Gundam that came out,

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which was an interesting maneuver. For a second

545
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there, I thought you were gonna say that

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they it was a double feature with this

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and then that, g Gundam movie that we

548
00:20:36,774 --> 00:20:39,755
watched previously. G Saver. Yeah. G Saver.

549
00:20:41,575 --> 00:20:42,075
Woof.

550
00:20:45,109 --> 00:20:47,130
That's so funny. That's yuck.

551
00:20:48,710 --> 00:20:50,390
Yeah. That was a that was a thing

552
00:20:50,390 --> 00:20:53,190
that happened, ladies and gentlemen. No. But the

553
00:20:53,190 --> 00:20:55,429
SD Gundam coming out plus this at the

554
00:20:55,429 --> 00:20:56,170
same time.

555
00:20:57,144 --> 00:20:58,825
And at the same time, you also had

556
00:20:58,825 --> 00:20:59,625
happening out,

557
00:21:00,424 --> 00:21:03,384
in between a couple OVAs. You had, Gundam

558
00:21:03,384 --> 00:21:03,884
double,

559
00:21:04,585 --> 00:21:06,825
Gundam 80 war in the pocket and Gundam

560
00:21:06,825 --> 00:21:09,884
83 stardust memory, which were both really, really

561
00:21:10,309 --> 00:21:12,410
good OVAs that came out,

562
00:21:13,990 --> 00:21:15,990
at the same, right literally at the same

563
00:21:15,990 --> 00:21:17,589
time. But there's an SD movie that came

564
00:21:17,589 --> 00:21:19,349
out also, and it was, like, one of

565
00:21:19,349 --> 00:21:21,750
those, like, really, like again, they're targeting 2

566
00:21:21,750 --> 00:21:24,089
different audiences. This is more for your teenage

567
00:21:24,150 --> 00:21:24,890
adult audience.

568
00:21:25,294 --> 00:21:26,815
SD Gundam was meant for your children. And

569
00:21:26,815 --> 00:21:27,694
so is there a way of trying to

570
00:21:27,694 --> 00:21:28,194
engage

571
00:21:28,494 --> 00:21:29,554
2 different crowds

572
00:21:29,855 --> 00:21:31,615
and bring them in? Did it work the

573
00:21:31,615 --> 00:21:32,115
greatest?

574
00:21:32,494 --> 00:21:33,214
Not really.

575
00:21:33,775 --> 00:21:36,095
1 of the pocket, Stardust, miss memory. I

576
00:21:36,095 --> 00:21:38,210
apologize. I'm burping. Stardust memory,

577
00:21:38,509 --> 00:21:41,089
those are really solid OVAs or shorts.

578
00:21:41,390 --> 00:21:42,289
Gundam Victory,

579
00:21:43,069 --> 00:21:44,829
it's okay. It has mixed reviews. I've yet

580
00:21:44,829 --> 00:21:46,349
to actually watch it, but it has a

581
00:21:46,349 --> 00:21:48,429
lot of mixed reviews. But then you have

582
00:21:48,429 --> 00:21:50,529
Mobile Fighter g Gundam, which,

583
00:21:51,164 --> 00:21:52,924
is kind of split. People are like, I

584
00:21:52,924 --> 00:21:54,384
don't know about this,

585
00:21:54,845 --> 00:21:56,765
because they because they have this mindset of

586
00:21:56,765 --> 00:21:59,164
OG Gundam. But people like you, you really

587
00:21:59,164 --> 00:22:01,485
liked what you saw of g Gundam. And,

588
00:22:01,805 --> 00:22:03,904
Drew from the Cellcast, he loves g Gundam,

589
00:22:03,990 --> 00:22:05,750
and I can see why. It it's just

590
00:22:05,829 --> 00:22:07,109
for me, it was just so different from

591
00:22:07,109 --> 00:22:08,950
what I knew. And, I think it really

592
00:22:09,029 --> 00:22:11,509
probably the reason why I enjoyed it. Yeah.

593
00:22:11,509 --> 00:22:13,349
I can see that. But we didn't see

594
00:22:13,349 --> 00:22:16,250
a real revival of Gundam until 96

595
00:22:16,630 --> 00:22:17,714
with Gundam Wing.

596
00:22:18,194 --> 00:22:18,694
Ironically,

597
00:22:19,474 --> 00:22:20,615
which you dislike.

598
00:22:21,154 --> 00:22:23,255
It's not so much I dislike it. It's

599
00:22:23,474 --> 00:22:25,154
it's one of it's it's sort of like,

600
00:22:25,714 --> 00:22:27,575
it's sort of like onions on pizza.

601
00:22:27,954 --> 00:22:29,554
It's not something I'm going to choose, but

602
00:22:29,554 --> 00:22:31,359
if somebody else puts it on there, I'm

603
00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,200
not gonna be like, oh, that's disgusting. I

604
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:34,720
can't eat it. You know? Yeah. Yeah. I

605
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,720
get that. And I appreciate that about you.

606
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,200
So, again, it's it was an attempt to

607
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:40,799
launch something new. And it there was a

608
00:22:40,799 --> 00:22:42,720
it was a new era, legitimately. Like, there's

609
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:44,079
a lot of things that they're changing. Because

610
00:22:44,079 --> 00:22:44,579
beforehand,

611
00:22:45,055 --> 00:22:47,455
outside of the SD Gundams, everything was locked

612
00:22:47,455 --> 00:22:47,955
into

613
00:22:48,335 --> 00:22:48,835
this

614
00:22:49,134 --> 00:22:51,375
universal century world. Mhmm. And I that needs

615
00:22:51,375 --> 00:22:53,375
to explain for those who are listening. This

616
00:22:53,375 --> 00:22:54,994
goes all the way back to first Gundam,

617
00:22:55,455 --> 00:22:56,755
from, like, 1979.

618
00:22:57,535 --> 00:22:58,035
79.

619
00:22:58,609 --> 00:23:01,750
And it kinda spans forward. You had Gundam,

620
00:23:02,369 --> 00:23:04,690
Zeta Gundam, Double Zeta, but then you had

621
00:23:04,690 --> 00:23:06,470
a movie called Char's Counterattack,

622
00:23:07,570 --> 00:23:08,789
that came out 1988.

623
00:23:09,730 --> 00:23:11,170
And it was supposed to be, like, the

624
00:23:11,170 --> 00:23:14,144
wrap up of everything. Mhmm. This this movie

625
00:23:14,144 --> 00:23:15,525
was supposed to be a relaunch,

626
00:23:16,144 --> 00:23:19,044
and it takes place 30 years after

627
00:23:19,585 --> 00:23:21,744
the events of stars counter attack. And so

628
00:23:21,744 --> 00:23:23,184
that's what they're talking about, a new era,

629
00:23:23,184 --> 00:23:23,924
a new generation.

630
00:23:24,224 --> 00:23:25,184
Yeah. So

631
00:23:25,904 --> 00:23:27,605
Alright. Let's let's

632
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,220
let's spoil this thing, shall we?

633
00:23:30,839 --> 00:23:32,619
Okay. Let's rock and roll, babe.

634
00:23:37,319 --> 00:23:38,380
Ladies and gentlemen,

635
00:23:39,079 --> 00:23:40,299
the spoiler section.

636
00:23:44,244 --> 00:23:44,744
Okay.

637
00:23:45,525 --> 00:23:47,845
So now we can talk about things that

638
00:23:47,845 --> 00:23:49,785
are actually in this

639
00:23:50,404 --> 00:23:52,724
movie. I will say, first of all, I

640
00:23:52,724 --> 00:23:53,944
am glad that,

641
00:23:54,884 --> 00:23:56,664
what's her face didn't turn into

642
00:24:00,069 --> 00:24:01,930
Cecily? Yeah. No. Yeah.

643
00:24:02,470 --> 00:24:04,470
No. She did not. And but even, like,

644
00:24:04,470 --> 00:24:04,970
Cecily,

645
00:24:06,069 --> 00:24:07,910
her and, I'm trying to pull up what

646
00:24:07,910 --> 00:24:10,410
her brother's name was. They were very much

647
00:24:10,894 --> 00:24:13,634
a shadow, a mirror of,

648
00:24:14,414 --> 00:24:15,634
Shar and,

649
00:24:16,255 --> 00:24:19,534
Cecilia from the first Gundam series. Doesn't shock

650
00:24:19,534 --> 00:24:22,095
me. Mhmm. I I I gotta ask because

651
00:24:22,095 --> 00:24:25,690
I don't remember seeing anything happened. What happened

652
00:24:25,690 --> 00:24:27,070
to her brother? Like,

653
00:24:27,529 --> 00:24:29,930
he's like cousin Oliver on the Brady Bunch.

654
00:24:29,930 --> 00:24:32,250
Like, he stepped he stepped out the door

655
00:24:32,250 --> 00:24:34,570
and got abducted by aliens or something and

656
00:24:34,570 --> 00:24:36,974
just never showed up again. I'm really not

657
00:24:36,974 --> 00:24:38,734
sure. I I don't know if if again,

658
00:24:38,734 --> 00:24:40,335
it just in because in the first opening

659
00:24:40,335 --> 00:24:43,214
of everything, there's so much happening. Mhmm. So

660
00:24:43,214 --> 00:24:46,255
many explosions, so much other things. I don't

661
00:24:46,255 --> 00:24:48,095
know if his of his mobile suit got

662
00:24:48,095 --> 00:24:50,015
destroyed in a fight or what. Because there

663
00:24:50,015 --> 00:24:52,519
are several. There's one character that at towards

664
00:24:52,519 --> 00:24:54,759
the end that she defected from the crossbow

665
00:24:54,759 --> 00:24:55,259
vanguard,

666
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:56,220
joined,

667
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,960
this rebellious group, and you get this, like

668
00:25:00,039 --> 00:25:02,279
yeah. Emery, she's excited. She's like, I can't

669
00:25:02,279 --> 00:25:04,174
do this. I can't follow you because you

670
00:25:04,335 --> 00:25:06,494
you've become a murderer. And then he's like,

671
00:25:06,494 --> 00:25:07,394
alright. Bet.

672
00:25:07,695 --> 00:25:09,535
Gone. Like, she's just she's out of there.

673
00:25:09,535 --> 00:25:11,214
And you you saw her for, like like,

674
00:25:11,214 --> 00:25:13,214
she had maybe a total of, like, maybe

675
00:25:13,214 --> 00:25:15,295
4 minutes of speaking in the entirety of

676
00:25:15,295 --> 00:25:17,490
the whole Yeah. Movie. And they they make

677
00:25:17,490 --> 00:25:19,089
her out like she's gonna be a giant

678
00:25:19,089 --> 00:25:21,330
character in this movie, and then they, like,

679
00:25:21,330 --> 00:25:23,250
kill her the next scene. I mean, she

680
00:25:23,250 --> 00:25:25,670
had a special mobile suit, a special painting,

681
00:25:25,970 --> 00:25:28,529
special designation, everything, and then just boom. And

682
00:25:28,529 --> 00:25:31,410
again but this again, this is the fault

683
00:25:31,410 --> 00:25:33,315
of it. Of yeah. This should have been

684
00:25:33,315 --> 00:25:35,154
a folding series. Mhmm. We would have seen

685
00:25:35,154 --> 00:25:36,775
a lot of character growth out of her

686
00:25:36,994 --> 00:25:38,914
and a lot of things I feel like.

687
00:25:38,914 --> 00:25:40,674
Speaking of of character growth that I I

688
00:25:40,674 --> 00:25:42,694
was frustrated with, the fact that,

689
00:25:43,474 --> 00:25:46,380
c book, he goes from being like, I

690
00:25:46,380 --> 00:25:48,159
don't wanna do it, to

691
00:25:48,619 --> 00:25:49,679
I'm a beast.

692
00:25:50,859 --> 00:25:51,359
Like

693
00:25:51,740 --> 00:25:52,799
like Yeah.

694
00:25:53,419 --> 00:25:54,880
Like but, again, that's

695
00:25:55,259 --> 00:25:57,819
over over a 50 episode series. I could

696
00:25:57,819 --> 00:26:00,134
rock with that. Mhmm. But in a 2

697
00:26:00,134 --> 00:26:01,515
hour movie, that was just

698
00:26:02,215 --> 00:26:04,055
it it was hard. And that that's the

699
00:26:04,055 --> 00:26:06,295
that's the biggest frustration for me about this

700
00:26:06,295 --> 00:26:07,035
is because

701
00:26:07,815 --> 00:26:11,035
this watching this is a tale of 2

702
00:26:11,335 --> 00:26:11,835
observations.

703
00:26:12,679 --> 00:26:13,179
Mhmm.

704
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,000
It and I will I will I will

705
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:18,380
quote this in the same

706
00:26:18,839 --> 00:26:20,380
spirit that how

707
00:26:20,759 --> 00:26:23,420
one of my favorite comedians, Josh Johnson, described

708
00:26:23,799 --> 00:26:24,539
p. Diddy.

709
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:26,059
Horrible rapper,

710
00:26:26,664 --> 00:26:27,724
terrific villain.

711
00:26:30,424 --> 00:26:32,445
This is a terrible movie,

712
00:26:33,065 --> 00:26:36,204
fantastic TV show. Oh, yeah. Absolutely.

713
00:26:36,664 --> 00:26:38,744
Like, I I I can see what they

714
00:26:38,744 --> 00:26:40,664
wanted to do, and I can see how

715
00:26:40,664 --> 00:26:42,240
they were going about it. And I'm like,

716
00:26:42,559 --> 00:26:43,299
the entire

717
00:26:43,759 --> 00:26:45,279
I mean, there was one point where I

718
00:26:45,279 --> 00:26:47,039
literally messaged you while I was watching this.

719
00:26:47,039 --> 00:26:49,039
I'm like, did this series ever release? Like,

720
00:26:49,039 --> 00:26:51,039
is there a way to I I will

721
00:26:51,039 --> 00:26:52,339
watch this with subtitles.

722
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:56,179
I will watch it without subtitles and and

723
00:26:56,704 --> 00:26:58,404
step up my learning Japanese.

724
00:26:59,025 --> 00:26:59,525
Like,

725
00:27:00,065 --> 00:27:01,924
I want it. Give it to me.

726
00:27:03,424 --> 00:27:03,924
It's

727
00:27:04,384 --> 00:27:06,625
it's just frustrating on that on that front

728
00:27:06,625 --> 00:27:08,244
for me. Yeah. But

729
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,960
you can definitely tell that the time spent

730
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:12,799
was in the first 30 minutes of this

731
00:27:12,799 --> 00:27:15,119
movie. Like like the first 30 minutes of

732
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:16,900
this movie feels like it was a complete

733
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:17,460
episode.

734
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:18,420
Mhmm.

735
00:27:19,279 --> 00:27:21,759
Because that that got worse. Like the voice

736
00:27:21,759 --> 00:27:22,980
acting was great.

737
00:27:23,455 --> 00:27:25,875
The animation was mostly great.

738
00:27:26,255 --> 00:27:28,914
And boy, did they try to work your

739
00:27:29,134 --> 00:27:29,634
emotions

740
00:27:29,934 --> 00:27:32,335
in the first. Oh, man. 20 minutes of

741
00:27:32,335 --> 00:27:34,815
this. When they when they ragdolled that little

742
00:27:34,815 --> 00:27:37,320
kid, Arthur. Mhmm. I was I was like,

743
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,119
oh my gosh. I'd forgotten how devastating that

744
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:40,859
scene was.

745
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,559
And just, like, having that poor child sitting

746
00:27:43,559 --> 00:27:44,380
there just

747
00:27:44,759 --> 00:27:47,320
just gone. Yeah. And it it the the

748
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,079
way the body was flopping around while they

749
00:27:49,079 --> 00:27:50,680
were trying when that kid was trying to

750
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,125
revive him, was it as someone who works

751
00:27:53,125 --> 00:27:54,644
in the medical field, I can tell you

752
00:27:54,644 --> 00:27:55,625
that that body

753
00:27:55,924 --> 00:27:58,085
looked like a dead body. Like, there's there's

754
00:27:58,085 --> 00:28:00,184
very been very few times I have seen

755
00:28:00,565 --> 00:28:02,964
in anime where I'm like, yeah, that's a

756
00:28:02,964 --> 00:28:03,464
corpse.

757
00:28:03,889 --> 00:28:05,569
Yeah. Like, for the most part for the

758
00:28:05,569 --> 00:28:07,569
most part, you're like, oh, that's a drawing,

759
00:28:07,569 --> 00:28:09,649
and I can understand what they're but the

760
00:28:09,649 --> 00:28:11,809
the when I was watching it, like, it

761
00:28:11,809 --> 00:28:13,509
registered in my mind corpse.

762
00:28:14,130 --> 00:28:15,190
Mhmm. Definitely.

763
00:28:15,490 --> 00:28:16,529
But they give us that's what I was

764
00:28:16,529 --> 00:28:18,529
talking about earlier, though. Like, the small details

765
00:28:18,529 --> 00:28:20,294
and, like, they put a lot of love

766
00:28:20,294 --> 00:28:22,615
and attention into certain aspects of this all

767
00:28:22,615 --> 00:28:24,934
the way through. Mhmm. And, if you listen

768
00:28:24,934 --> 00:28:25,994
to the Gundam watch,

769
00:28:26,615 --> 00:28:28,534
podcast, you guys will hear me say often,

770
00:28:28,534 --> 00:28:30,394
one of the reasons I love the Gundam

771
00:28:30,454 --> 00:28:32,474
series is because it does a great job

772
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,160
of of highlighting the tragedy of war. And

773
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,000
Oh, for sure. The fur the first sequence

774
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:39,380
in this movie is a giant

775
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,480
buffet of the horrors of war. Like, the

776
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,960
realistic horrors of war. And we're not talking

777
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,279
about just death, but the feelings of of

778
00:28:47,279 --> 00:28:47,779
betrayal,

779
00:28:48,095 --> 00:28:50,575
the feelings of loss, the the being unaware.

780
00:28:50,575 --> 00:28:51,634
The first sequence,

781
00:28:51,934 --> 00:28:54,414
it was giving me, like, World War 2

782
00:28:54,414 --> 00:28:55,394
invasion vibes.

783
00:28:55,934 --> 00:28:57,855
Like like, I like, it really felt like,

784
00:28:57,855 --> 00:28:59,615
you know, this was in Europe and the

785
00:28:59,615 --> 00:29:02,430
Nazis were attacking. Mhmm. And people are scrambling,

786
00:29:02,430 --> 00:29:03,710
trying to figure out, trying to get to

787
00:29:03,710 --> 00:29:04,210
bunkers,

788
00:29:04,589 --> 00:29:06,589
just trying to understand what's happening. And then

789
00:29:06,589 --> 00:29:09,390
there's these emotions of going, who's attacking us?

790
00:29:09,390 --> 00:29:11,710
And then you see the the things begin

791
00:29:11,710 --> 00:29:13,710
to bloom where there's a sense of betrayal

792
00:29:13,710 --> 00:29:15,865
because you're like, my family's doing this or

793
00:29:16,065 --> 00:29:17,904
Mhmm. That person's family do is doing that

794
00:29:17,904 --> 00:29:19,825
or you're because your parents did this. We

795
00:29:19,825 --> 00:29:22,065
hate you now. Right. And it's just this

796
00:29:22,065 --> 00:29:24,545
mass chaos of and you have these children

797
00:29:24,545 --> 00:29:26,464
who are innocent. And, again, this is one

798
00:29:26,464 --> 00:29:27,345
of the reason why I love it. Of

799
00:29:27,345 --> 00:29:28,865
course, those who know me, I I have

800
00:29:28,865 --> 00:29:31,079
a I have a a strong part, love

801
00:29:31,079 --> 00:29:32,380
for for kids and teenagers.

802
00:29:32,759 --> 00:29:34,759
They're thrown into this mess, and they're just

803
00:29:34,759 --> 00:29:35,579
trying to survive.

804
00:29:37,079 --> 00:29:39,320
It reminded me and may it may be

805
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:40,759
that some people might think I'm being a

806
00:29:40,759 --> 00:29:41,740
little bit melodramatic,

807
00:29:42,119 --> 00:29:44,859
and I may be. But it reminded me

808
00:29:44,944 --> 00:29:46,865
for those of you who are old enough

809
00:29:46,865 --> 00:29:49,765
and were there when 9 11 happened,

810
00:29:50,304 --> 00:29:50,964
I was

811
00:29:51,265 --> 00:29:53,744
the looks I saw on the on the

812
00:29:53,744 --> 00:29:54,724
people's face

813
00:29:55,025 --> 00:29:55,525
faces

814
00:29:56,944 --> 00:29:57,444
immediately

815
00:29:57,744 --> 00:30:00,799
afterwards, the feeling of that feeling of utter

816
00:30:00,799 --> 00:30:01,299
powerlessness

817
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:03,140
and confusion

818
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:05,859
and all that.

819
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,320
Like, what I felt on that day, I

820
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,080
saw a lot on the faces of that,

821
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,240
and I'm like, that is real. Like, whoever

822
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,835
animated that understands that feeling. Oh, yeah. Because

823
00:30:16,875 --> 00:30:19,595
Absolutely. I mean, it was man, it's so

824
00:30:19,595 --> 00:30:22,075
much there. And, again, as we said, the

825
00:30:22,075 --> 00:30:24,554
animation does suffer through. There's moments throughout it

826
00:30:24,554 --> 00:30:25,755
where you're like, okay. They put a little

827
00:30:25,755 --> 00:30:27,134
bit extra attention into it,

828
00:30:27,674 --> 00:30:29,515
because they understood this is gonna be on

829
00:30:29,515 --> 00:30:31,549
a big screen. Like, some of the space

830
00:30:31,549 --> 00:30:33,150
fights where there was a lot of lighting

831
00:30:33,150 --> 00:30:35,410
taking place, it was interesting. Those were cool.

832
00:30:36,509 --> 00:30:39,630
But, there something special about that first 30

833
00:30:39,630 --> 00:30:42,190
minutes, man, where, I mean, it grabs you.

834
00:30:42,190 --> 00:30:44,210
It really grabs you off the bat.

835
00:30:45,115 --> 00:30:47,674
I also would have liked to have seen

836
00:30:47,674 --> 00:30:49,595
the character development of,

837
00:30:50,394 --> 00:30:52,554
what's her face. I can't I'm bad with

838
00:30:52,554 --> 00:30:53,534
names in these.

839
00:30:54,075 --> 00:30:54,575
Cecilia?

840
00:30:54,875 --> 00:30:55,375
Yes.

841
00:30:55,994 --> 00:30:58,529
Whatever her name was. The the one who

842
00:30:58,529 --> 00:31:00,369
was the friend who ended up being the

843
00:31:00,369 --> 00:31:01,350
daughter of the

844
00:31:01,730 --> 00:31:02,230
villain.

845
00:31:02,610 --> 00:31:03,110
Right.

846
00:31:04,289 --> 00:31:05,809
I would have loved to see her character

847
00:31:05,809 --> 00:31:08,070
development because there was a lot of

848
00:31:08,769 --> 00:31:09,269
shifting

849
00:31:09,570 --> 00:31:10,549
on her part.

850
00:31:10,850 --> 00:31:11,350
Mhmm.

851
00:31:11,775 --> 00:31:12,835
That really

852
00:31:13,695 --> 00:31:15,154
made me want to understand

853
00:31:15,615 --> 00:31:18,894
what happened in the scenes that weren't Sicily,

854
00:31:18,894 --> 00:31:20,755
not Sicily. It's Sicily. Yeah. Yeah.

855
00:31:22,174 --> 00:31:23,775
I got I got I got to remember

856
00:31:23,775 --> 00:31:25,950
her. I got I knew that she's the

857
00:31:25,950 --> 00:31:28,049
place where delicious food comes from.

858
00:31:30,430 --> 00:31:33,630
That's fair. But because she take her character,

859
00:31:33,630 --> 00:31:35,970
takes some twists and turns. And

860
00:31:36,505 --> 00:31:39,404
is she brainwashed or is she buying in

861
00:31:39,464 --> 00:31:41,304
sort of thing? And I would have loved

862
00:31:41,304 --> 00:31:42,125
to have seen

863
00:31:42,505 --> 00:31:44,585
the progress of that because I almost thought

864
00:31:44,585 --> 00:31:46,204
that she was gonna be the

865
00:31:48,184 --> 00:31:48,684
dissociative

866
00:31:49,065 --> 00:31:49,565
identity

867
00:31:49,944 --> 00:31:50,444
disorder

868
00:31:50,759 --> 00:31:52,299
Oh, yeah. Lady

869
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:53,980
from Wing.

870
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,519
Mhmm. I I because there was a lot

871
00:31:56,519 --> 00:31:58,119
of stuff they did miss that I saw

872
00:31:58,119 --> 00:32:00,440
them do in Wing, and I'm, like, I

873
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,039
bet some of the what they did in

874
00:32:02,039 --> 00:32:04,440
Wing was some recycled ideas from this too.

875
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,794
Oh, I'm sure. I I again, this is

876
00:32:06,794 --> 00:32:08,554
one of those things where there was so

877
00:32:08,554 --> 00:32:10,315
much that happened, and this was such a

878
00:32:10,315 --> 00:32:13,054
a a weird point of of Gundam history.

879
00:32:13,275 --> 00:32:15,375
And there's so many ideas that just weren't

880
00:32:15,595 --> 00:32:17,515
taken and used. Now they did take some

881
00:32:17,515 --> 00:32:19,035
of it. They did a lot they apparently

882
00:32:19,035 --> 00:32:20,740
did a lot of 3 lines from what

883
00:32:20,740 --> 00:32:22,579
I'm reading in the in the in the

884
00:32:22,579 --> 00:32:23,319
weed channels,

885
00:32:24,179 --> 00:32:24,679
that,

886
00:32:25,380 --> 00:32:27,460
some of it was weed through Gundam victory,

887
00:32:27,460 --> 00:32:29,000
which, again, I like to see,

888
00:32:30,179 --> 00:32:32,339
but you're right. I mean, there's definitely elements

889
00:32:32,339 --> 00:32:34,900
they took from this, and they have sprinkled

890
00:32:34,900 --> 00:32:36,835
through the rest of Gundam ness. But at

891
00:32:36,835 --> 00:32:38,355
the same time, that's that's one of the

892
00:32:38,355 --> 00:32:40,434
beauties of Gundam that I like, though, John,

893
00:32:40,434 --> 00:32:42,515
is the fact that they do that throughout

894
00:32:42,515 --> 00:32:43,654
the entire franchise.

895
00:32:44,035 --> 00:32:46,194
And There's nothing wrong with that. I I

896
00:32:46,355 --> 00:32:46,855
No.

897
00:32:47,394 --> 00:32:50,069
People do that in classical music all the

898
00:32:50,069 --> 00:32:52,470
time. It's called using a theme, and then

899
00:32:52,470 --> 00:32:54,230
you you can use a theme at one

900
00:32:54,230 --> 00:32:55,210
point and then

901
00:32:55,509 --> 00:32:57,349
bring it back at a different point. And

902
00:32:57,349 --> 00:32:59,210
it's it's all a part of the same

903
00:32:59,829 --> 00:33:00,329
composition,

904
00:33:01,109 --> 00:33:04,035
but you have the same theme that ends

905
00:33:04,035 --> 00:33:06,275
up weaving through it. So it's there's nothing

906
00:33:06,275 --> 00:33:08,275
wrong with that if it's done right. If

907
00:33:08,275 --> 00:33:10,195
it's something that you lean on too hard,

908
00:33:10,195 --> 00:33:11,894
then it feels a bit derivative.

909
00:33:12,515 --> 00:33:13,414
Yeah. Definitely.

910
00:33:13,715 --> 00:33:15,575
And so but the way they do it

911
00:33:15,679 --> 00:33:16,960
through a lot of Gundam stuff, I feel

912
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,119
like it's great because it's it's always that

913
00:33:19,119 --> 00:33:21,380
whole, like, we're capturing a new audience, but

914
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,519
the old audience, they see things that that

915
00:33:23,599 --> 00:33:26,319
that's the nostalgia that's grabbing them. A great

916
00:33:26,319 --> 00:33:28,400
example of it in the Gundam franchise, I

917
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,434
think, is Gundam Seed. And I'm referencing that

918
00:33:31,434 --> 00:33:33,034
because they just had a movie drop in

919
00:33:33,034 --> 00:33:34,734
theaters a couple, months ago,

920
00:33:35,514 --> 00:33:37,674
which is, kind of a a capping of

921
00:33:37,674 --> 00:33:38,815
this of the franchise.

922
00:33:39,194 --> 00:33:41,534
But that is such a, I mean,

923
00:33:41,835 --> 00:33:45,289
parallel universe of the original Gundam. Mhmm. And

924
00:33:45,289 --> 00:33:47,150
a lot of OGs could be like, man.

925
00:33:47,369 --> 00:33:50,029
Like, it like, it captured the Gundam franchise

926
00:33:50,089 --> 00:33:51,609
in a a special way. There's some people

927
00:33:51,609 --> 00:33:53,450
who who just hate it still. But I

928
00:33:53,690 --> 00:33:56,009
from the people I know, like, it captured

929
00:33:56,009 --> 00:33:58,194
because they're like, it's new, it's fresh or

930
00:33:58,194 --> 00:33:59,875
some interesting things taking place. But there's so

931
00:33:59,875 --> 00:34:01,794
many parallels that go back to that original

932
00:34:01,794 --> 00:34:04,934
that recapture the nostalgia that people had. Yeah.

933
00:34:06,674 --> 00:34:08,594
And it's hard to talk about spoilers in

934
00:34:08,594 --> 00:34:10,195
this movie because there is so much time

935
00:34:10,195 --> 00:34:12,139
jump. So there's a lot of stuff that

936
00:34:12,139 --> 00:34:15,059
you have to fill in Yeah. Mentally that

937
00:34:15,059 --> 00:34:15,960
isn't there.

938
00:34:17,460 --> 00:34:19,539
What did you think of the motivation behind

939
00:34:19,539 --> 00:34:20,359
Cosmo Babylon?

940
00:34:20,659 --> 00:34:21,400
This aristocratic

941
00:34:21,699 --> 00:34:24,114
cross bone vanguard of this whole, like, where

942
00:34:24,114 --> 00:34:26,594
where the aristocrats were were meant to lead,

943
00:34:26,594 --> 00:34:28,914
and while we're at it, we're going to

944
00:34:28,914 --> 00:34:29,414
kill

945
00:34:29,715 --> 00:34:31,715
9 tenths of the world because we don't

946
00:34:31,715 --> 00:34:32,535
like them.

947
00:34:33,474 --> 00:34:35,414
Well, that wasn't the entire

948
00:34:35,954 --> 00:34:37,255
that wasn't the entire,

949
00:34:38,675 --> 00:34:39,175
plot

950
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,199
of the the oh, the Crossbone Vanguard. I

951
00:34:42,199 --> 00:34:43,480
was I thought you're talking about the Roma

952
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,119
family because the Roma fam like like the

953
00:34:46,119 --> 00:34:47,820
Roma family wanted the the

954
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:50,619
what the Cosmo Babylon.

955
00:34:51,639 --> 00:34:52,139
Whereas

956
00:34:52,599 --> 00:34:53,739
the the

957
00:34:54,554 --> 00:34:56,255
pirates, I'm just going to call them pirates.

958
00:34:56,394 --> 00:34:57,135
That's fair.

959
00:34:57,675 --> 00:35:00,315
Whereas the pirates just wanted to kill 9

960
00:35:00,315 --> 00:35:02,474
tenths of humanity. Like, so it was kind

961
00:35:02,474 --> 00:35:03,534
of like a subplot

962
00:35:03,835 --> 00:35:04,335
underneath

963
00:35:05,114 --> 00:35:05,614
the

964
00:35:06,315 --> 00:35:08,074
villain. It was sort of like,

965
00:35:08,730 --> 00:35:11,309
I'm trying to remember characters from Wing to

966
00:35:11,929 --> 00:35:14,190
give it as an example, but it's basically

967
00:35:14,250 --> 00:35:14,969
like Lady

968
00:35:15,929 --> 00:35:18,429
on Wing having her own agenda

969
00:35:18,889 --> 00:35:20,190
or not or,

970
00:35:21,135 --> 00:35:24,434
Trey's having his own agenda versus Zack's Marquise.

971
00:35:24,894 --> 00:35:26,974
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So you you you get

972
00:35:26,974 --> 00:35:27,474
that.

973
00:35:28,335 --> 00:35:28,835
And

974
00:35:29,215 --> 00:35:31,614
that's that's, again, another theme that you see

975
00:35:31,614 --> 00:35:34,539
happen throughout Gundam is is who's the true

976
00:35:34,539 --> 00:35:36,699
villain is a is a constant theme that

977
00:35:36,699 --> 00:35:37,760
goes through there.

978
00:35:39,099 --> 00:35:41,920
So it's like the idea of

979
00:35:43,179 --> 00:35:43,679
like

980
00:35:44,059 --> 00:35:46,480
what grandpa wanted in this movie

981
00:35:47,125 --> 00:35:50,005
wasn't a bad ideal to strive for, but

982
00:35:50,005 --> 00:35:51,605
I felt how he was going about it

983
00:35:51,605 --> 00:35:52,905
was wrong. Whereas

984
00:35:53,285 --> 00:35:54,105
Iron Mask,

985
00:35:54,565 --> 00:35:55,065
who

986
00:35:56,325 --> 00:35:58,184
was the leader of the

987
00:35:58,805 --> 00:35:59,305
pirates,

988
00:35:59,619 --> 00:36:01,139
as I'm going to call them, was the

989
00:36:01,139 --> 00:36:03,380
one who wanted the extermination of the 9

990
00:36:03,380 --> 00:36:04,440
tenths of humanity.

991
00:36:05,300 --> 00:36:05,800
So

992
00:36:06,579 --> 00:36:09,639
it's almost 2 separate agendas that are

993
00:36:10,019 --> 00:36:10,839
woven together.

994
00:36:11,219 --> 00:36:12,375
Yeah. So

995
00:36:12,914 --> 00:36:15,255
we're on one hand, one's a good idea

996
00:36:15,315 --> 00:36:18,195
that was being gone about wrong, and the

997
00:36:18,195 --> 00:36:19,494
other one is just completely

998
00:36:20,035 --> 00:36:20,535
awful.

999
00:36:20,835 --> 00:36:22,275
But but that's the thing. At the same

1000
00:36:22,275 --> 00:36:23,954
time, Iron Mask, when I when I was

1001
00:36:23,954 --> 00:36:25,875
looking at his ideas, especially when you understand

1002
00:36:25,875 --> 00:36:27,329
the fact that he's a cyber new type.

1003
00:36:27,489 --> 00:36:29,170
Mhmm. And what happens with that, and we

1004
00:36:29,170 --> 00:36:30,610
need we should probably get to that conversation

1005
00:36:30,610 --> 00:36:32,849
here in a minute. It it felt like

1006
00:36:32,849 --> 00:36:33,349
the

1007
00:36:33,650 --> 00:36:34,469
the extreme

1008
00:36:34,769 --> 00:36:36,869
logical conclusion of causal babelon.

1009
00:36:37,890 --> 00:36:38,710
But, I mean,

1010
00:36:39,570 --> 00:36:41,430
you could say the extreme

1011
00:36:42,244 --> 00:36:44,804
the the extreme end of any sort of

1012
00:36:44,804 --> 00:36:47,065
political ideal is always gonna

1013
00:36:47,445 --> 00:36:48,744
be some form

1014
00:36:49,445 --> 00:36:50,184
of radicalization.

1015
00:36:51,204 --> 00:36:52,505
Oh, totally. That is

1016
00:36:53,765 --> 00:36:54,985
always gonna end

1017
00:36:55,289 --> 00:36:57,449
wrong. You never wanna go to the extreme

1018
00:36:57,449 --> 00:37:00,030
end of one way or another on anything,

1019
00:37:00,969 --> 00:37:02,969
which is well, I'm not gonna get into

1020
00:37:02,969 --> 00:37:04,750
that on this podcast. But

1021
00:37:06,570 --> 00:37:07,065
but

1022
00:37:08,105 --> 00:37:10,284
so I would say I can't

1023
00:37:10,905 --> 00:37:13,545
where I understand what you're saying. I can't

1024
00:37:13,545 --> 00:37:14,045
necessarily

1025
00:37:14,425 --> 00:37:16,505
say that it has to go that go

1026
00:37:16,505 --> 00:37:17,964
to that length.

1027
00:37:18,984 --> 00:37:19,484
So,

1028
00:37:20,500 --> 00:37:22,019
But it was the length of the like,

1029
00:37:22,019 --> 00:37:23,460
that was the thing is, like, what happened

1030
00:37:23,460 --> 00:37:25,460
with Crossbow and Vanguard and then where our

1031
00:37:25,460 --> 00:37:27,239
mass was going. And, again,

1032
00:37:27,619 --> 00:37:29,460
we'll have to get into the conversation about

1033
00:37:29,460 --> 00:37:30,820
new types and cyber new types here in

1034
00:37:30,820 --> 00:37:32,660
a little bit, but it is the it

1035
00:37:32,660 --> 00:37:33,640
is the demented

1036
00:37:34,019 --> 00:37:36,734
run of that ideal that was brought to

1037
00:37:36,734 --> 00:37:39,474
him by his by his father. Right. So,

1038
00:37:40,255 --> 00:37:42,174
and so but speaking of the conspiracy they

1039
00:37:42,174 --> 00:37:44,414
had, I did find interesting, and I I'm

1040
00:37:44,494 --> 00:37:46,494
I I've missed this for years. I've watched

1041
00:37:46,494 --> 00:37:48,014
this a 1000 times. But there was a

1042
00:37:48,014 --> 00:37:49,375
whole conversation about

1043
00:37:49,849 --> 00:37:52,809
first air federation was like, they're just let

1044
00:37:52,809 --> 00:37:54,250
them figure it out. We're not gonna deal

1045
00:37:54,250 --> 00:37:55,710
with it. Blah blah blah.

1046
00:37:56,010 --> 00:37:58,829
And, and they're talking about the whole situation,

1047
00:37:59,050 --> 00:38:00,670
and there's a revelation that

1048
00:38:00,969 --> 00:38:01,469
the,

1049
00:38:02,650 --> 00:38:04,965
the colonies that they have, they're built in

1050
00:38:04,965 --> 00:38:05,765
a very classical,

1051
00:38:07,445 --> 00:38:10,885
European high class way. And somebody goes had

1052
00:38:10,885 --> 00:38:12,985
the revelation going, this was

1053
00:38:13,365 --> 00:38:15,525
on purpose. Like, it it takes years to

1054
00:38:15,525 --> 00:38:17,460
build these. Mhmm. Minimum, you have at least

1055
00:38:17,460 --> 00:38:18,900
30 years that these have been built because

1056
00:38:18,900 --> 00:38:21,239
this all takes place after, Char's counterattack.

1057
00:38:21,780 --> 00:38:23,719
And they're like, somebody in their federation

1058
00:38:24,099 --> 00:38:26,840
is working with crossbow to make this happen.

1059
00:38:26,980 --> 00:38:28,340
And I would have loved to see that

1060
00:38:28,340 --> 00:38:30,420
storyline play out a little bit more about

1061
00:38:30,420 --> 00:38:31,239
the deception

1062
00:38:31,539 --> 00:38:32,199
in the

1063
00:38:32,715 --> 00:38:34,655
in the, the working of

1064
00:38:34,954 --> 00:38:37,375
Crossbone and dash Cosmo Babylonia

1065
00:38:37,994 --> 00:38:38,494
into,

1066
00:38:39,355 --> 00:38:41,114
the Earth Federation? Because, again, that was another

1067
00:38:41,114 --> 00:38:43,114
thing. It's like, nobody was a good guy.

1068
00:38:43,114 --> 00:38:45,195
No. It was just the kids on the

1069
00:38:45,195 --> 00:38:47,239
boat and which again is kind of a

1070
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,420
running theme within Gundam of you got this

1071
00:38:49,639 --> 00:38:50,920
the small crew of people who are just

1072
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,079
trying to survive and live life, and you

1073
00:38:53,079 --> 00:38:55,800
have you have some good people in the

1074
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:57,480
in the federation, but then you have a

1075
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:58,815
lot of crap people who are like, hey.

1076
00:38:58,815 --> 00:39:00,414
If we use the kids as human shields,

1077
00:39:00,414 --> 00:39:01,315
they won't attack

1078
00:39:01,695 --> 00:39:03,875
us versus the other cats who are, like,

1079
00:39:03,934 --> 00:39:05,295
blowing up stuff. And at the same time,

1080
00:39:05,295 --> 00:39:06,494
I I had to laugh in the front

1081
00:39:06,494 --> 00:39:08,594
end because they're coming guns blazing,

1082
00:39:08,894 --> 00:39:11,295
destroying stuff, and yet the crossbow and Vanguard

1083
00:39:11,295 --> 00:39:13,349
guys are like, citizens, we're not here to

1084
00:39:13,349 --> 00:39:15,369
hurt you. I'm like, then stop shooting us.

1085
00:39:16,710 --> 00:39:19,609
I that that's another thing that that I've

1086
00:39:19,909 --> 00:39:22,710
learned to appreciate about Gundam 2 is the

1087
00:39:22,949 --> 00:39:24,489
that there aren't

1088
00:39:24,949 --> 00:39:26,409
in war, there aren't

1089
00:39:27,405 --> 00:39:27,905
100%

1090
00:39:29,005 --> 00:39:32,204
villain or hero sides. There's only Mhmm.

1091
00:39:32,684 --> 00:39:35,585
Sides that have both heroes and villains.

1092
00:39:36,125 --> 00:39:36,625
Mhmm.

1093
00:39:36,925 --> 00:39:37,425
And

1094
00:39:38,125 --> 00:39:40,525
so and I think that's I mean, if

1095
00:39:40,525 --> 00:39:41,824
you really wanna get

1096
00:39:42,250 --> 00:39:42,750
highbrow

1097
00:39:43,050 --> 00:39:45,530
about it or meta, as the kids say

1098
00:39:45,530 --> 00:39:46,269
these days,

1099
00:39:47,690 --> 00:39:48,670
you know, that's

1100
00:39:49,769 --> 00:39:51,070
that's kind of

1101
00:39:51,369 --> 00:39:54,410
the message of the of this is just

1102
00:39:54,410 --> 00:39:54,795
like

1103
00:39:55,835 --> 00:39:58,815
they want to expose the realities of it,

1104
00:39:59,114 --> 00:40:00,954
but in a safe spot, in a safe

1105
00:40:00,954 --> 00:40:03,514
space, if that makes sense. Yeah. It's like,

1106
00:40:03,514 --> 00:40:04,554
I know what I want to say, but

1107
00:40:04,554 --> 00:40:06,234
I can't force it out of my mouth.

1108
00:40:06,234 --> 00:40:08,074
I was having this issue last night, too,

1109
00:40:08,074 --> 00:40:09,135
on playing games.

1110
00:40:09,500 --> 00:40:11,819
Oh, man. That's terrible. Yeah. Especially when you're

1111
00:40:11,819 --> 00:40:13,420
the DM and you have to tell people

1112
00:40:13,420 --> 00:40:14,480
what's going on.

1113
00:40:15,179 --> 00:40:16,219
You sound like Let me ask you this.

1114
00:40:16,380 --> 00:40:17,199
Porky pig.

1115
00:40:17,579 --> 00:40:19,659
Oh, no. Let me ask you this. The

1116
00:40:19,659 --> 00:40:22,059
conversations about new types, cyber new types Mhmm.

1117
00:40:22,300 --> 00:40:24,079
I I was really intrigued by,

1118
00:40:24,724 --> 00:40:25,945
how you would respond

1119
00:40:26,485 --> 00:40:27,144
to it.

1120
00:40:28,164 --> 00:40:29,545
Those of you listening to,

1121
00:40:30,724 --> 00:40:32,565
the Gundam watch, you know that when Branson

1122
00:40:32,565 --> 00:40:33,465
was going through

1123
00:40:33,765 --> 00:40:35,285
the original Gundam, there's a lot of stuff

1124
00:40:35,285 --> 00:40:37,445
to talk about cyber about new types. He

1125
00:40:37,445 --> 00:40:39,969
was lost a lot of the times because

1126
00:40:39,969 --> 00:40:41,170
the way that the movies that he and

1127
00:40:41,170 --> 00:40:43,010
I watched chalked things up. It took out

1128
00:40:43,010 --> 00:40:43,750
some information.

1129
00:40:44,369 --> 00:40:45,349
How were you

1130
00:40:45,809 --> 00:40:47,650
with this conversation? Do you understand what they're

1131
00:40:47,650 --> 00:40:49,170
talking about? Do you know what's taking place

1132
00:40:49,170 --> 00:40:51,510
with new types and cyber new types?

1133
00:40:51,934 --> 00:40:54,974
I was able to follow because I did

1134
00:40:54,974 --> 00:40:58,114
listen to the Gundam watch before I entered

1135
00:40:58,175 --> 00:40:59,235
the Gundam watch.

1136
00:40:59,855 --> 00:41:00,355
So,

1137
00:41:00,974 --> 00:41:03,614
like, I you explained the concept on there.

1138
00:41:03,614 --> 00:41:05,054
And so I'm like, so when they brought

1139
00:41:05,054 --> 00:41:06,335
it into this, I'm like, oh, okay. I

1140
00:41:06,335 --> 00:41:07,590
know what they're talking about.

1141
00:41:08,070 --> 00:41:10,230
But they did not explain it in this

1142
00:41:10,230 --> 00:41:10,730
movie

1143
00:41:11,030 --> 00:41:13,030
very well, I mean, they did, but not

1144
00:41:13,030 --> 00:41:15,510
very well. They basically are like someone who's

1145
00:41:15,510 --> 00:41:17,289
born a natural that can

1146
00:41:17,750 --> 00:41:20,730
automatically know it. Right. Right. Right.

1147
00:41:21,094 --> 00:41:22,875
That I was wondering about that,

1148
00:41:23,654 --> 00:41:24,934
because I I saw the same thing. I

1149
00:41:24,934 --> 00:41:27,494
was like except they kind of explain it

1150
00:41:27,494 --> 00:41:28,635
at times Mhmm.

1151
00:41:29,255 --> 00:41:31,094
But don't really go deeply into it. And

1152
00:41:31,094 --> 00:41:33,174
when they drop the the term cyber new

1153
00:41:33,174 --> 00:41:33,659
type,

1154
00:41:34,380 --> 00:41:35,819
at the end when they were referring to

1155
00:41:35,819 --> 00:41:37,599
the Iron Mask, I was, like, man,

1156
00:41:37,980 --> 00:41:40,299
the the gravitas of him being a cyber

1157
00:41:40,299 --> 00:41:41,679
new type is

1158
00:41:42,460 --> 00:41:44,619
so big, but I don't think it makes

1159
00:41:44,619 --> 00:41:46,219
sense for a crowd that doesn't know what

1160
00:41:46,219 --> 00:41:48,114
that is. Mhmm. And I and I'm I'm

1161
00:41:48,114 --> 00:41:51,494
hating that there was not a longer series

1162
00:41:51,795 --> 00:41:54,594
to explain this here. Me too, but for

1163
00:41:54,594 --> 00:41:55,414
different reasons.

1164
00:41:57,554 --> 00:41:58,855
Would you like to understand,

1165
00:42:00,130 --> 00:42:01,889
the concept of cyber new type, or do

1166
00:42:01,889 --> 00:42:03,489
you already know because you listen to the

1167
00:42:03,489 --> 00:42:04,230
gun and watch?

1168
00:42:04,690 --> 00:42:06,849
I mean, it's not so much I I

1169
00:42:06,849 --> 00:42:08,630
like I was I was kinda putting

1170
00:42:08,929 --> 00:42:10,710
bits and pieces together,

1171
00:42:11,809 --> 00:42:13,409
just based off of what I knew a

1172
00:42:13,409 --> 00:42:16,125
new type was and then context cues from

1173
00:42:16,125 --> 00:42:17,664
the movie itself. So

1174
00:42:17,965 --> 00:42:19,565
I I think I've got a handle on

1175
00:42:19,565 --> 00:42:22,925
it. But Yeah. Okay. Cool. Well yeah. So

1176
00:42:22,925 --> 00:42:24,545
you understand it's it's a it's a

1177
00:42:24,844 --> 00:42:26,684
new type skin. These are people who Mhmm.

1178
00:42:26,765 --> 00:42:28,364
They kinda have the 6th sense in space.

1179
00:42:28,364 --> 00:42:30,630
But the cyber new types, though, man, it's

1180
00:42:30,630 --> 00:42:31,030
sad.

1181
00:42:31,589 --> 00:42:32,710
You don't really get into it till you

1182
00:42:32,710 --> 00:42:34,949
get into Gundam Zeta. And, I think I

1183
00:42:34,949 --> 00:42:36,710
have at least 2 reviews of it in

1184
00:42:36,710 --> 00:42:38,630
in the Gundam watch feed about it. But,

1185
00:42:39,030 --> 00:42:40,710
I think you actually kinda brought it up

1186
00:42:40,710 --> 00:42:42,730
a little bit when we did the Christmas

1187
00:42:42,789 --> 00:42:45,109
episode for the Gundam watch as well. Oh,

1188
00:42:45,109 --> 00:42:47,335
yeah. I think I did. I did. So

1189
00:42:47,454 --> 00:42:49,534
but it's just it's tragic because you literally

1190
00:42:49,534 --> 00:42:51,295
are stripping the mind of a person. And

1191
00:42:51,295 --> 00:42:52,574
this is this is why I was talking

1192
00:42:52,574 --> 00:42:55,135
about how Iron Mask's motivation to do what

1193
00:42:55,135 --> 00:42:57,375
he was doing, it's it's tragic to me

1194
00:42:57,375 --> 00:42:59,215
on multiple levels because if for him to

1195
00:42:59,215 --> 00:43:01,530
become a cyber new type, and you discover

1196
00:43:01,530 --> 00:43:03,289
it was forced upon him to be able

1197
00:43:03,289 --> 00:43:05,610
to achieve the goals that he felt like

1198
00:43:05,610 --> 00:43:07,449
he needed to do, but it pushed him

1199
00:43:07,449 --> 00:43:09,949
that far. It's a it's a tragic moment,

1200
00:43:10,650 --> 00:43:12,349
to see that take place. And,

1201
00:43:13,445 --> 00:43:15,284
we don't know much about his suit that

1202
00:43:15,284 --> 00:43:16,085
he had. The,

1203
00:43:16,804 --> 00:43:18,425
where was it? What was it called again?

1204
00:43:18,644 --> 00:43:19,945
I just had it up.

1205
00:43:20,405 --> 00:43:20,804
The,

1206
00:43:21,445 --> 00:43:21,945
rafalassea.

1207
00:43:22,804 --> 00:43:25,445
That thing's so cool. Dude, it it was

1208
00:43:25,445 --> 00:43:26,664
a monster, dude.

1209
00:43:27,159 --> 00:43:28,380
It's actually a

1210
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:30,460
mobile armor. It's

1211
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:32,699
a it's a it's it's electronic

1212
00:43:33,079 --> 00:43:33,579
Lovecraftian

1213
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:35,900
beast is what it is. Like

1214
00:43:36,599 --> 00:43:38,440
like, for those for those of you who

1215
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,460
are familiar with HP Lovecraft,

1216
00:43:41,405 --> 00:43:43,484
if you think of like the flat, the

1217
00:43:43,484 --> 00:43:45,585
flower beings from the

1218
00:43:46,844 --> 00:43:48,224
at the mountains of madness,

1219
00:43:48,925 --> 00:43:51,164
it looks like a cybernetic version of one

1220
00:43:51,164 --> 00:43:53,244
of those. Like, no joke. I looked at

1221
00:43:53,244 --> 00:43:54,684
that and I'm like, oh my gosh, it's

1222
00:43:54,684 --> 00:43:55,984
at the mountain of madness.

1223
00:43:56,630 --> 00:43:57,130
So

1224
00:43:57,989 --> 00:43:59,670
yeah. So it was cool. It's I did

1225
00:43:59,670 --> 00:44:01,510
a quick look. It's not using a psycho

1226
00:44:01,510 --> 00:44:02,809
frame system, which is,

1227
00:44:04,630 --> 00:44:07,530
oh, okay. It's using a a psycho system,

1228
00:44:07,590 --> 00:44:10,070
but not psycho frame, which resonates with people.

1229
00:44:10,070 --> 00:44:11,210
But the psycho system,

1230
00:44:11,945 --> 00:44:13,385
it does date back to the original Gundam

1231
00:44:13,385 --> 00:44:16,105
series, and people were losing the listeners right

1232
00:44:16,105 --> 00:44:17,465
now as I talk about this because they're

1233
00:44:17,465 --> 00:44:19,005
like, I don't know what he's saying.

1234
00:44:21,304 --> 00:44:23,784
So, yeah, even that links back, but it's

1235
00:44:23,784 --> 00:44:24,684
meant to resonate

1236
00:44:25,190 --> 00:44:27,849
with the new types and the psychonew types.

1237
00:44:27,990 --> 00:44:30,390
But the more they do it, the more

1238
00:44:30,390 --> 00:44:32,309
they lose their mind to the point that

1239
00:44:32,309 --> 00:44:33,829
you have what happens after the movie where

1240
00:44:33,829 --> 00:44:36,490
he's ready just to off his daughter.

1241
00:44:36,869 --> 00:44:39,214
Yeah. And can I just say I hated

1242
00:44:39,275 --> 00:44:39,775
the

1243
00:44:40,315 --> 00:44:41,295
more to come

1244
00:44:41,755 --> 00:44:43,375
ending of this movie?

1245
00:44:45,034 --> 00:44:47,434
I I feel like that that that's a

1246
00:44:47,434 --> 00:44:49,454
lie, sir, and you know it.

1247
00:44:49,849 --> 00:44:50,909
Yes and no.

1248
00:44:52,010 --> 00:44:54,010
Again, it was meant to be the launch

1249
00:44:54,010 --> 00:44:55,390
of a of a new era.

1250
00:44:55,769 --> 00:44:56,269
Technically,

1251
00:44:56,890 --> 00:44:59,690
there are some highly celebrated mangas that people

1252
00:44:59,690 --> 00:45:02,170
are screaming to be made into an anime

1253
00:45:02,170 --> 00:45:02,670
series

1254
00:45:03,234 --> 00:45:04,514
and only and half of them are in

1255
00:45:04,514 --> 00:45:06,755
English. I was actually looking for them earlier.

1256
00:45:06,755 --> 00:45:08,214
I couldn't find them on Amazon.

1257
00:45:08,835 --> 00:45:10,514
I've I checked by I found 1 on

1258
00:45:10,514 --> 00:45:12,214
Amazon, but it was in Japanese,

1259
00:45:14,114 --> 00:45:15,414
called Gundam Crossbone,

1260
00:45:15,769 --> 00:45:18,409
and it takes place several years after these

1261
00:45:18,409 --> 00:45:18,909
events.

1262
00:45:21,530 --> 00:45:22,349
Cecilie has,

1263
00:45:24,250 --> 00:45:25,710
forsaken her aristocratic

1264
00:45:26,250 --> 00:45:26,750
roots,

1265
00:45:27,210 --> 00:45:29,530
and her and Seabook are are handling some

1266
00:45:29,530 --> 00:45:30,510
stuff. And

1267
00:45:30,885 --> 00:45:31,625
people genuinely

1268
00:45:32,085 --> 00:45:33,065
like it, but

1269
00:45:33,525 --> 00:45:34,025
Sunrise

1270
00:45:34,885 --> 00:45:37,445
isn't touching it for some reason. Because they

1271
00:45:37,445 --> 00:45:38,184
hate us.

1272
00:45:38,485 --> 00:45:41,125
That's probably it. You're probably right. Probably it's

1273
00:45:42,965 --> 00:45:45,690
alright. Well, do you have any final thoughts

1274
00:45:45,690 --> 00:45:47,070
before we hit the ratings?

1275
00:45:48,489 --> 00:45:50,109
I think we've hit basically everything.

1276
00:45:50,570 --> 00:45:52,889
We can go beat by beat, but to

1277
00:45:52,889 --> 00:45:55,530
really spoil this, it it's hard. I'll say

1278
00:45:55,530 --> 00:45:56,030
this.

1279
00:45:56,329 --> 00:45:57,630
I genuinely enjoy

1280
00:45:58,250 --> 00:46:00,750
the mech designs of this,

1281
00:46:01,744 --> 00:46:03,505
across the board. I I thought they were

1282
00:46:03,505 --> 00:46:05,204
fascinating. I thought that the crossbones,

1283
00:46:06,065 --> 00:46:07,285
I appreciated the,

1284
00:46:08,625 --> 00:46:08,945
the,

1285
00:46:09,905 --> 00:46:10,485
the very

1286
00:46:10,945 --> 00:46:11,445
military

1287
00:46:11,824 --> 00:46:13,364
style looking that they were.

1288
00:46:14,349 --> 00:46:16,030
I think they took the Zaku design, and

1289
00:46:16,030 --> 00:46:17,710
they just ran with it in a whole

1290
00:46:17,710 --> 00:46:19,090
new way that I appreciated.

1291
00:46:19,710 --> 00:46:21,710
And I appreciate the way that they designed

1292
00:46:21,710 --> 00:46:23,070
the f 91. I thought it was a

1293
00:46:23,070 --> 00:46:24,989
cool I thought it was a cool suit.

1294
00:46:24,989 --> 00:46:27,710
Now information nobody cares about, it's a tiny

1295
00:46:27,710 --> 00:46:28,210
suit.

1296
00:46:29,125 --> 00:46:31,125
The way that they built the Munozky particle

1297
00:46:31,125 --> 00:46:33,125
engine that it runs on, it's actually more

1298
00:46:33,125 --> 00:46:33,625
efficient

1299
00:46:33,925 --> 00:46:35,445
nerd crap that people will care about again.

1300
00:46:35,445 --> 00:46:35,945
But,

1301
00:46:36,885 --> 00:46:39,125
it's tiny. Like, it's genuinely just like when

1302
00:46:39,125 --> 00:46:40,920
you see it, like, in video games, you're

1303
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:42,359
like, what is this little thing? You're like,

1304
00:46:42,359 --> 00:46:43,800
oh, it's got a big gun. And so

1305
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:44,619
it's pretty cool.

1306
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:49,900
As far as final thoughts for me,

1307
00:46:50,199 --> 00:46:51,819
if you're going to watch this movie,

1308
00:46:52,359 --> 00:46:54,839
don't go in expecting them to wrap up

1309
00:46:54,839 --> 00:46:56,574
all the loose ends by the end of

1310
00:46:56,574 --> 00:46:59,074
the movie because they left a few leads

1311
00:46:59,215 --> 00:46:59,715
untouched.

1312
00:47:00,335 --> 00:47:00,414
So

1313
00:47:01,295 --> 00:47:01,795
Mhmm.

1314
00:47:02,175 --> 00:47:04,094
You you could definitely tell they wanted this

1315
00:47:04,094 --> 00:47:06,735
to be a series, and it just didn't

1316
00:47:06,735 --> 00:47:07,235
happen.

1317
00:47:07,614 --> 00:47:10,400
Yeah. So well, let's go ahead and go

1318
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:11,460
into the ratings.

1319
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:15,539
We have

1320
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:18,420
4 different ratings here on

1321
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:19,219
the

1322
00:47:19,599 --> 00:47:22,659
bottom shelf. 1st ranking is the top shelf,

1323
00:47:22,934 --> 00:47:24,535
which is something to the effect of I

1324
00:47:24,535 --> 00:47:26,215
need to own this. I need to watch

1325
00:47:26,215 --> 00:47:27,275
this repeatedly.

1326
00:47:27,655 --> 00:47:30,474
I enjoyed it that much. Middle shelf is

1327
00:47:30,695 --> 00:47:32,934
I'd watch it again if it was streaming

1328
00:47:32,934 --> 00:47:34,775
or if someone else put it on. Bottom

1329
00:47:34,775 --> 00:47:37,275
shelf is I'm not gonna watch it again.

1330
00:47:37,335 --> 00:47:37,835
And,

1331
00:47:38,829 --> 00:47:40,670
you know, if you like it, great. I'm

1332
00:47:40,670 --> 00:47:41,650
not into it.

1333
00:47:42,109 --> 00:47:44,829
And Dumpster Fire is, I'm gonna actively try

1334
00:47:44,829 --> 00:47:46,829
to keep people from watching this movie, and

1335
00:47:46,829 --> 00:47:49,250
it needs to be wiped off of existence

1336
00:47:49,869 --> 00:47:51,010
forward and backwards.

1337
00:47:51,469 --> 00:47:51,855
So

1338
00:47:52,894 --> 00:47:53,954
that being said,

1339
00:47:54,655 --> 00:47:55,554
mister Mora,

1340
00:47:56,175 --> 00:47:58,414
how do you rate this movie? Like, I

1341
00:47:58,414 --> 00:47:59,635
actually have to ask.

1342
00:48:01,614 --> 00:48:04,255
Well, legitimately, like, it's a, I'm I'm conflicted

1343
00:48:04,255 --> 00:48:05,934
at times because, again, because of the choppiness

1344
00:48:05,934 --> 00:48:07,315
of it, it's hard to watch.

1345
00:48:07,869 --> 00:48:10,030
And I I genuinely question if somebody who's

1346
00:48:10,030 --> 00:48:12,030
not a hardcore Gundam fan or a Gundam

1347
00:48:12,030 --> 00:48:14,750
fan, period, would enjoy the film. But as

1348
00:48:14,750 --> 00:48:16,289
far for a personal thing,

1349
00:48:16,909 --> 00:48:18,750
again, I own it, and I was telling

1350
00:48:18,750 --> 00:48:20,429
Celeste, like, I really need to get this

1351
00:48:20,429 --> 00:48:21,329
on Blu ray.

1352
00:48:22,190 --> 00:48:23,684
I need to get an updated version of

1353
00:48:23,684 --> 00:48:26,244
this for on Blu ray. And so I'm

1354
00:48:26,244 --> 00:48:27,785
gonna have to top shelf this because

1355
00:48:28,085 --> 00:48:29,625
while we recognize these weaknesses,

1356
00:48:30,325 --> 00:48:32,885
you and I just spent an hour, and

1357
00:48:32,885 --> 00:48:35,380
for the most part, we're going, I want

1358
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,160
more. Like, where's the where's the rest? And

1359
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,420
so top shelf. So

1360
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:43,460
as far as I'm concerned, like,

1361
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:45,059
you know how

1362
00:48:45,599 --> 00:48:48,480
people always envision a scale where the top

1363
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:50,974
is touching the bottom like it's almost a

1364
00:48:50,974 --> 00:48:52,114
circular ideal.

1365
00:48:53,375 --> 00:48:55,454
This again for me is a tale of

1366
00:48:55,454 --> 00:48:56,195
2 different

1367
00:48:56,655 --> 00:48:57,155
things.

1368
00:48:57,614 --> 00:48:58,114
Okay.

1369
00:48:58,655 --> 00:49:00,594
And where I want to put this

1370
00:49:01,135 --> 00:49:01,635
is

1371
00:49:01,934 --> 00:49:04,755
where the bottom shelf and the top shelf

1372
00:49:04,815 --> 00:49:05,315
meet.

1373
00:49:05,730 --> 00:49:06,230
Oh,

1374
00:49:06,610 --> 00:49:08,610
like right in the middle of those, like

1375
00:49:08,610 --> 00:49:11,489
the dumpster fire is a completely separate entity

1376
00:49:11,489 --> 00:49:13,250
for my scale. Let's get it off the

1377
00:49:13,250 --> 00:49:16,150
scale before it infects everything else. Definitely.

1378
00:49:16,849 --> 00:49:17,349
Because

1379
00:49:18,074 --> 00:49:20,335
as far as this is as a movie,

1380
00:49:20,715 --> 00:49:23,034
like as a movie movie, I'll never watch

1381
00:49:23,034 --> 00:49:25,675
this again because this this as a movie,

1382
00:49:25,675 --> 00:49:27,614
it makes me mad because I can see

1383
00:49:28,554 --> 00:49:30,474
I can see how good it was supposed

1384
00:49:30,474 --> 00:49:32,414
to be. Right. But

1385
00:49:32,859 --> 00:49:35,099
it took up too much mental energy for

1386
00:49:35,099 --> 00:49:36,539
me to connect the dots that they were

1387
00:49:36,539 --> 00:49:38,800
putting in front of me. I get that.

1388
00:49:39,099 --> 00:49:39,599
Whereas

1389
00:49:40,219 --> 00:49:41,900
if they flesh this out and made the

1390
00:49:41,900 --> 00:49:44,539
series that they had intended to, I would

1391
00:49:44,539 --> 00:49:47,019
watch that series over and over again. Like

1392
00:49:47,019 --> 00:49:49,414
if because like what they put in front

1393
00:49:49,414 --> 00:49:51,894
of me was something I legitimately wanted more

1394
00:49:51,894 --> 00:49:53,275
of, but I didn't have

1395
00:49:53,894 --> 00:49:55,355
enough of it to

1396
00:49:55,815 --> 00:49:58,074
really satisfy me. So being as

1397
00:49:58,375 --> 00:49:58,875
this,

1398
00:49:59,630 --> 00:50:01,309
it will only be a movie. I have

1399
00:50:01,309 --> 00:50:03,170
to put it on the bottom shelf because

1400
00:50:03,630 --> 00:50:05,550
I can only rate it as what they

1401
00:50:05,550 --> 00:50:07,250
put in front of me. So

1402
00:50:07,550 --> 00:50:09,309
it it's not a movie that I would

1403
00:50:09,309 --> 00:50:11,070
want, and it's not something I can see

1404
00:50:11,070 --> 00:50:13,724
myself streaming again. So Alright.

1405
00:50:14,505 --> 00:50:16,744
So we're putting this, we're kinda split down

1406
00:50:16,744 --> 00:50:19,464
the middle. Yep. So And I'm kinda concerned

1407
00:50:19,464 --> 00:50:21,704
about where to ask for help. We're gonna

1408
00:50:21,704 --> 00:50:24,045
put this in the Devoted Geek Life, tonight.

1409
00:50:25,065 --> 00:50:26,950
And the thing is we don't have a

1410
00:50:26,950 --> 00:50:28,630
ton of people in Devoted Geek Life that

1411
00:50:28,630 --> 00:50:30,890
are mega Gundam fans. Makasi

1412
00:50:31,430 --> 00:50:33,269
might be able to jump in. I think

1413
00:50:33,269 --> 00:50:35,690
Nathan Marchand has a thought on it.

1414
00:50:36,710 --> 00:50:38,730
But if I drop this in the Gundams,

1415
00:50:39,269 --> 00:50:40,410
space that I have,

1416
00:50:41,375 --> 00:50:43,454
It's going to get a top shelf, if

1417
00:50:43,454 --> 00:50:44,114
not middle.

1418
00:50:44,894 --> 00:50:46,655
Mhmm. No. Let's just keep it in let's

1419
00:50:46,655 --> 00:50:48,894
let's keep it as family business then, and

1420
00:50:48,894 --> 00:50:50,275
whoever answers answers.

1421
00:50:50,655 --> 00:50:53,795
Alright. I am making the post now. Actually,

1422
00:50:53,855 --> 00:50:55,614
why don't you drop the link to it

1423
00:50:55,614 --> 00:50:58,630
so they can watch it too, if, somebody

1424
00:50:58,630 --> 00:51:01,429
wants to answer but hasn't seen it. Right.

1425
00:51:01,429 --> 00:51:02,070
But you're being at

1426
00:51:02,789 --> 00:51:04,869
we we did I watched it for free

1427
00:51:04,869 --> 00:51:05,369
on,

1428
00:51:06,309 --> 00:51:07,849
YouTube. So Right.

1429
00:51:08,390 --> 00:51:09,909
For those of you out there who

1430
00:51:10,550 --> 00:51:12,010
You're like, how is this happening?

1431
00:51:12,425 --> 00:51:12,925
Yeah.

1432
00:51:13,864 --> 00:51:15,005
So I got you, man.

1433
00:51:16,105 --> 00:51:17,784
So I I'm dropping the link in there

1434
00:51:17,784 --> 00:51:19,784
here in a second, and we'll go from

1435
00:51:19,784 --> 00:51:20,284
there.

1436
00:51:20,905 --> 00:51:22,125
That being said,

1437
00:51:23,144 --> 00:51:25,784
I think we'll have to and you'll we'll

1438
00:51:25,784 --> 00:51:27,484
we'll we'll release the

1439
00:51:28,029 --> 00:51:30,449
crowd rating at the beginning of the next

1440
00:51:30,509 --> 00:51:31,009
episode

1441
00:51:31,309 --> 00:51:34,029
because That's fair. I wanna get this out,

1442
00:51:34,029 --> 00:51:36,769
and I want whoever listens this to

1443
00:51:37,150 --> 00:51:39,630
feel compelled to visit us on the socials

1444
00:51:39,630 --> 00:51:42,105
to take part in this as well. So

1445
00:51:43,864 --> 00:51:45,385
I get that. So here's a question for

1446
00:51:45,385 --> 00:51:47,385
you, John. What's that? Want to reveal to

1447
00:51:47,385 --> 00:51:48,984
people before we go off to the next

1448
00:51:48,984 --> 00:51:52,105
segment, what we're doing next time or next

1449
00:51:52,105 --> 00:51:53,945
month. Don't put me on the spot, Dallas,

1450
00:51:53,945 --> 00:51:55,085
because I don't remember.

1451
00:51:57,809 --> 00:52:00,789
Madame Web or 1970 Spider Man. Oh.

1452
00:52:02,049 --> 00:52:02,549
Oh,

1453
00:52:03,089 --> 00:52:05,010
that's right. I forgot you're gonna force me

1454
00:52:05,010 --> 00:52:07,409
to watch Madame Web. I was supposed to

1455
00:52:07,409 --> 00:52:08,069
do nothing.

1456
00:52:10,514 --> 00:52:11,414
So, yeah,

1457
00:52:12,114 --> 00:52:14,835
we're gonna we're we're next month is spider

1458
00:52:14,835 --> 00:52:16,514
month for us here at,

1459
00:52:17,315 --> 00:52:18,534
at the bottom shelf.

1460
00:52:19,074 --> 00:52:19,574
So

1461
00:52:19,875 --> 00:52:21,894
that's gonna be a thing we're gonna do.

1462
00:52:22,010 --> 00:52:22,829
We're watching

1463
00:52:23,289 --> 00:52:23,789
spooky

1464
00:52:24,650 --> 00:52:26,589
spider shows. Nah.

1465
00:52:27,050 --> 00:52:27,550
Nah.

1466
00:52:28,329 --> 00:52:29,949
So bad. It's scary.

1467
00:52:30,250 --> 00:52:31,150
How about that?

1468
00:52:32,730 --> 00:52:33,230
Yeah.

1469
00:52:36,335 --> 00:52:38,094
I don't know. I'm I'm not tying it

1470
00:52:38,094 --> 00:52:39,775
in the I'm not tying it into the

1471
00:52:39,775 --> 00:52:41,234
spoopy ness. Like

1472
00:52:42,014 --> 00:52:42,514
so

1473
00:52:43,454 --> 00:52:44,594
Oh, cool beans.

1474
00:52:44,894 --> 00:52:46,974
So with that being said, let's get on

1475
00:52:46,974 --> 00:52:47,715
over to

1476
00:52:48,175 --> 00:52:49,715
the weak connection section

1477
00:52:50,230 --> 00:52:51,910
to find out what we have to say

1478
00:52:51,910 --> 00:52:53,930
about this movie. If it can be redeemed,

1479
00:52:54,150 --> 00:52:55,449
we shall try to.

1480
00:52:56,150 --> 00:52:57,769
This is a weak connection.

1481
00:52:59,430 --> 00:53:01,050
Alright. Welcome to the weak connection

1482
00:53:01,829 --> 00:53:03,610
area where we try to

1483
00:53:04,034 --> 00:53:06,434
find something redeeming about the movies that we

1484
00:53:06,434 --> 00:53:06,934
watch.

1485
00:53:08,594 --> 00:53:08,914
Do you

1486
00:53:09,875 --> 00:53:12,034
I I you always have one because you're

1487
00:53:12,034 --> 00:53:14,775
the resident pastor on hand, Dallas.

1488
00:53:15,795 --> 00:53:16,295
I

1489
00:53:16,755 --> 00:53:19,155
sort of have I have a parallel more

1490
00:53:19,155 --> 00:53:19,655
than

1491
00:53:20,090 --> 00:53:21,070
a weak connection.

1492
00:53:21,690 --> 00:53:23,630
But I'll let I'll let you go first.

1493
00:53:23,929 --> 00:53:24,989
Alright. So

1494
00:53:25,289 --> 00:53:26,609
my weak connection

1495
00:53:27,050 --> 00:53:28,809
I'll pull my notes here. I'm seeing about

1496
00:53:28,809 --> 00:53:30,030
the end of the movie where,

1497
00:53:31,130 --> 00:53:33,230
Seabook's mother who peers out of nowhere,

1498
00:53:34,005 --> 00:53:35,364
is talking to him while he's trying to

1499
00:53:35,364 --> 00:53:37,304
find Cecily and or Cecilia.

1500
00:53:38,244 --> 00:53:40,565
No. Cecily. Cecily. You're right. The place where

1501
00:53:40,565 --> 00:53:41,864
delicious food comes from.

1502
00:53:42,964 --> 00:53:44,184
Anyways, so,

1503
00:53:44,644 --> 00:53:46,829
but she's trying to help him find her

1504
00:53:46,989 --> 00:53:48,829
and, she's lost in space. And, again, this

1505
00:53:48,829 --> 00:53:50,829
is tapping into some of the the the

1506
00:53:50,829 --> 00:53:53,950
the magical new type powers, plot armor. But,

1507
00:53:54,670 --> 00:53:55,869
she says this to him because if you

1508
00:53:55,869 --> 00:53:57,390
only focus on just what's in front of

1509
00:53:57,390 --> 00:53:59,489
you, you'll never see anything.

1510
00:54:00,094 --> 00:54:02,014
You can't and and I was listening to

1511
00:54:02,014 --> 00:54:03,214
that, and I was really beginning to think

1512
00:54:03,214 --> 00:54:04,114
about the fact that,

1513
00:54:04,815 --> 00:54:06,494
you know, there's a lot of things that

1514
00:54:06,494 --> 00:54:08,514
when we're in moments where we're just

1515
00:54:08,815 --> 00:54:10,414
and we feel lost, and we just sort

1516
00:54:10,414 --> 00:54:11,855
of look at things right in front of

1517
00:54:11,855 --> 00:54:14,609
us, it we don't really see everything that's

1518
00:54:14,609 --> 00:54:16,369
taking place. And it's such an easy thing

1519
00:54:16,369 --> 00:54:17,030
to take place,

1520
00:54:17,730 --> 00:54:20,389
where we're panicked, where we're frustrated, where,

1521
00:54:21,170 --> 00:54:23,809
things are just thrown up, and we're we're

1522
00:54:23,809 --> 00:54:26,130
we're struggling. We're grasping at thought straws. It

1523
00:54:26,130 --> 00:54:28,704
makes sense. Nobody's faulting you when you're in

1524
00:54:28,704 --> 00:54:30,625
that mode. But what do we need to

1525
00:54:30,625 --> 00:54:31,284
do? Well,

1526
00:54:31,664 --> 00:54:32,804
we've gotta look beyond

1527
00:54:33,425 --> 00:54:35,105
just our moments. And I think about the

1528
00:54:35,105 --> 00:54:35,605
scriptures,

1529
00:54:36,304 --> 00:54:38,625
Proverbs chapter 3 verses 5 through 6, and

1530
00:54:38,625 --> 00:54:40,944
I'm reading from the, nearly inspired version. I

1531
00:54:40,944 --> 00:54:43,530
mean, the new international version. I'm sorry. It

1532
00:54:44,409 --> 00:54:46,090
says it's a old joke for you old

1533
00:54:46,090 --> 00:54:48,269
old heads out there. I like the NIV.

1534
00:54:48,570 --> 00:54:50,349
Fight me. It says this,

1535
00:54:50,730 --> 00:54:52,969
trust in the Lord with all your heart

1536
00:54:52,969 --> 00:54:55,150
and lean not on your own understandings.

1537
00:54:55,715 --> 00:54:57,474
In all your ways, submit to him, and

1538
00:54:57,474 --> 00:54:59,655
he will make your paths straight.

1539
00:55:00,195 --> 00:55:00,695
And,

1540
00:55:01,635 --> 00:55:03,315
what that means is, like, you're you need

1541
00:55:03,315 --> 00:55:04,675
to rely on on what the Lord has

1542
00:55:04,675 --> 00:55:06,755
for you. And what it's a conversation about

1543
00:55:06,755 --> 00:55:09,074
relying with all your heart. That means giving

1544
00:55:09,074 --> 00:55:11,550
up everything. Even if you are you're questioning

1545
00:55:11,550 --> 00:55:13,230
it, it doesn't look right, it doesn't you

1546
00:55:13,230 --> 00:55:14,670
don't under again, it says lean on your

1547
00:55:14,670 --> 00:55:16,670
understanding. Our understanding says we should not do

1548
00:55:16,670 --> 00:55:18,990
this. We should not do that. But if

1549
00:55:18,990 --> 00:55:20,349
we trust in what the Lord has for

1550
00:55:20,349 --> 00:55:21,650
us, it's different.

1551
00:55:22,775 --> 00:55:24,215
And we give him our whole heart. There's

1552
00:55:24,215 --> 00:55:26,135
a level of trust there. I know from

1553
00:55:26,135 --> 00:55:27,335
my own life, there are times and things

1554
00:55:27,335 --> 00:55:28,855
I chose to do that did not make

1555
00:55:28,855 --> 00:55:29,355
sense,

1556
00:55:29,735 --> 00:55:31,974
and it I I I struggled with the

1557
00:55:31,974 --> 00:55:33,114
decisions I made.

1558
00:55:33,974 --> 00:55:36,155
Even in as I'm coming out of traumatic

1559
00:55:36,215 --> 00:55:36,715
moments,

1560
00:55:37,590 --> 00:55:39,030
you know, coming out of a a very

1561
00:55:39,030 --> 00:55:40,890
traumatic moment with my family,

1562
00:55:41,349 --> 00:55:42,710
it did not make sense for me to

1563
00:55:42,710 --> 00:55:43,849
trust certain people

1564
00:55:44,150 --> 00:55:46,390
and to put my my faith in them

1565
00:55:46,390 --> 00:55:48,070
to help me out because I was hurt

1566
00:55:48,070 --> 00:55:50,795
so badly. Logic says I should have rebelled,

1567
00:55:50,795 --> 00:55:53,114
fought, done certain other things, but I decided

1568
00:55:53,114 --> 00:55:54,394
to trust in what the lord had for

1569
00:55:54,394 --> 00:55:56,555
me. And on the back end, I'm I'm

1570
00:55:56,555 --> 00:55:57,614
where I am now.

1571
00:55:58,474 --> 00:56:00,235
I'm not angry. I'm not bitter. I'm not

1572
00:56:00,235 --> 00:56:02,075
holding on to certain things because I trusted

1573
00:56:02,075 --> 00:56:04,414
in what the process I was walking through.

1574
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:07,079
And it's hard. It's not easy, and I

1575
00:56:07,079 --> 00:56:09,239
need to make sure I say that very

1576
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:09,739
clearly.

1577
00:56:10,039 --> 00:56:11,639
Trusting the Lord is not an easy thing

1578
00:56:11,639 --> 00:56:12,139
sometimes,

1579
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:14,039
especially when we're in the midst of trauma

1580
00:56:14,039 --> 00:56:15,719
and we're in the midst of depression and

1581
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:16,219
fear.

1582
00:56:16,519 --> 00:56:18,804
It's a scary thing because when we're in

1583
00:56:18,804 --> 00:56:20,885
those moments, our initial instinct is, I wanna

1584
00:56:20,885 --> 00:56:22,724
control it. I want my hands on it.

1585
00:56:22,724 --> 00:56:24,885
Because when we're out of control, we look

1586
00:56:24,885 --> 00:56:26,105
for what we can't control.

1587
00:56:26,405 --> 00:56:27,224
The thing is,

1588
00:56:27,525 --> 00:56:29,765
that's where why we trust the Lord because

1589
00:56:29,765 --> 00:56:31,525
we can't control it because he is the

1590
00:56:31,525 --> 00:56:33,210
one that's in control. You know, this is

1591
00:56:33,210 --> 00:56:36,730
the great cosmic being who created everything. He's

1592
00:56:36,730 --> 00:56:39,289
the reason why the earth floats perfectly in

1593
00:56:39,289 --> 00:56:41,210
orbit so we don't burn up or freeze.

1594
00:56:41,210 --> 00:56:43,389
He's the reason why our molecules don't just

1595
00:56:43,769 --> 00:56:44,989
separate and disappear.

1596
00:56:45,305 --> 00:56:46,905
He formed us in a way, and he

1597
00:56:46,905 --> 00:56:49,144
knows us, and we have to trust him.

1598
00:56:49,144 --> 00:56:51,625
It's hard. It really is hard. And I

1599
00:56:51,625 --> 00:56:53,325
think the way we get to that point

1600
00:56:53,545 --> 00:56:54,364
is by

1601
00:56:54,664 --> 00:56:56,505
we grow our trust in him, by loving

1602
00:56:56,505 --> 00:56:59,164
him, seeking him through the word, through prayer.

1603
00:56:59,450 --> 00:57:02,010
And then as we have these small moments

1604
00:57:02,010 --> 00:57:03,610
with him where we're like, man, I should

1605
00:57:03,610 --> 00:57:05,610
have made that, we need to recognize those

1606
00:57:05,610 --> 00:57:07,930
moments. We need to genuinely look back and

1607
00:57:07,930 --> 00:57:09,530
go, this was a moment that the the

1608
00:57:09,530 --> 00:57:11,610
Lord took care of me and and mark

1609
00:57:11,610 --> 00:57:13,530
that down in our spirits. You know, the

1610
00:57:13,530 --> 00:57:15,585
the people of Israel, when they traveled, they

1611
00:57:15,585 --> 00:57:16,644
made several markers

1612
00:57:17,025 --> 00:57:18,704
not to go, this is where we went

1613
00:57:18,704 --> 00:57:20,065
or this is where we were. Let's go

1614
00:57:20,065 --> 00:57:21,425
back to that moment and dwell on that,

1615
00:57:21,425 --> 00:57:22,625
but so they can take their kids and

1616
00:57:22,625 --> 00:57:24,385
go, hey. This is where we came from.

1617
00:57:24,385 --> 00:57:25,764
Look how far we've come.

1618
00:57:26,065 --> 00:57:27,905
Now you can go further because we were

1619
00:57:27,905 --> 00:57:29,619
here once, and we need to have our

1620
00:57:29,619 --> 00:57:31,059
own faith. We need to look at moments

1621
00:57:31,059 --> 00:57:33,139
where we were failing, we were dying, and

1622
00:57:33,139 --> 00:57:35,460
we felt like trash. And we go, man,

1623
00:57:35,460 --> 00:57:37,940
it sucked, but I made it through. And

1624
00:57:37,940 --> 00:57:39,219
I can look at several points of my

1625
00:57:39,219 --> 00:57:39,960
life. Even,

1626
00:57:41,075 --> 00:57:42,835
man, just just 8 years ago, Celeste and

1627
00:57:42,835 --> 00:57:44,035
I were going through a time frame where

1628
00:57:44,035 --> 00:57:45,954
we were, man, we were cooked. We were

1629
00:57:45,954 --> 00:57:47,815
exhausted. We were we were depressed.

1630
00:57:48,195 --> 00:57:50,035
And, you know, and we're doing good stuff.

1631
00:57:50,035 --> 00:57:51,715
We're serving the church faithfully. We're doing geek

1632
00:57:51,715 --> 00:57:53,655
devotions, but we were in a bad spot,

1633
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:56,079
not in our marriage, but just us personally

1634
00:57:56,079 --> 00:57:57,920
in our hearts and our spirit. But we

1635
00:57:57,920 --> 00:57:59,199
held on to what the Lord had for

1636
00:57:59,199 --> 00:58:01,360
us even though it didn't make sense. Mhmm.

1637
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:02,900
And we walked it out,

1638
00:58:03,199 --> 00:58:04,500
and here we are today.

1639
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:08,179
Mhmm. So that's my my, weak connection. Alright.

1640
00:58:08,559 --> 00:58:10,695
Well, I like I said, I have more

1641
00:58:10,695 --> 00:58:13,175
of a parallel than a weak connection, but

1642
00:58:13,175 --> 00:58:15,655
there was something that there was something that

1643
00:58:15,655 --> 00:58:17,735
kept reoccurring to me when I was watching

1644
00:58:17,735 --> 00:58:18,394
this movie,

1645
00:58:19,335 --> 00:58:19,835
specifically

1646
00:58:20,215 --> 00:58:20,954
with Sicily,

1647
00:58:22,454 --> 00:58:22,954
that

1648
00:58:23,300 --> 00:58:24,119
her story

1649
00:58:24,500 --> 00:58:27,380
reminded me a bit of the life of

1650
00:58:27,380 --> 00:58:27,880
Hezekiah

1651
00:58:28,179 --> 00:58:29,400
to a certain degree.

1652
00:58:29,940 --> 00:58:31,380
For those of you who aren't familiar with

1653
00:58:31,380 --> 00:58:33,139
it, you you guys can go check his

1654
00:58:33,139 --> 00:58:36,199
life out in 2nd Chronicles. It starts in

1655
00:58:36,579 --> 00:58:37,639
chapter 29.

1656
00:58:39,755 --> 00:58:43,375
Hezekiah's dad was a bad, bad dude named

1657
00:58:43,515 --> 00:58:44,015
Ahaz.

1658
00:58:45,195 --> 00:58:45,695
And

1659
00:58:46,235 --> 00:58:46,735
Ahaz

1660
00:58:47,515 --> 00:58:48,255
set up

1661
00:58:48,555 --> 00:58:49,055
temples

1662
00:58:49,355 --> 00:58:53,375
to pagan gods and Ashera poles and

1663
00:58:54,609 --> 00:58:56,369
the high places. And if you don't know

1664
00:58:56,369 --> 00:58:58,130
what any of those those things are, we'll

1665
00:58:58,130 --> 00:59:00,070
just say it's bad things.

1666
00:59:00,530 --> 00:59:02,050
It was bad things that the people of

1667
00:59:02,050 --> 00:59:04,710
Israel were told not to participate in.

1668
00:59:06,824 --> 00:59:07,324
And

1669
00:59:07,704 --> 00:59:09,644
Hezekiah comes around and,

1670
00:59:10,105 --> 00:59:12,585
boy, I tell you that he he's he's

1671
00:59:12,585 --> 00:59:14,664
he's a Bible hero of mine for for

1672
00:59:14,664 --> 00:59:15,405
real. Like,

1673
00:59:15,784 --> 00:59:17,784
I before before I got married, one of

1674
00:59:17,784 --> 00:59:19,385
my things was like, if I ever have

1675
00:59:19,385 --> 00:59:19,964
a kid,

1676
00:59:20,425 --> 00:59:21,784
if I ever have a son, his name's

1677
00:59:21,784 --> 00:59:22,670
gonna be

1678
00:59:24,089 --> 00:59:26,429
Hezekiah. But the thing about it is,

1679
00:59:26,809 --> 00:59:27,949
though, when Hezekiah

1680
00:59:28,889 --> 00:59:31,449
takes over after Ahaz, the first thing he

1681
00:59:31,449 --> 00:59:32,829
does is he rededicates

1682
00:59:33,449 --> 00:59:34,109
the kingdom

1683
00:59:35,224 --> 00:59:36,285
to God's purposes,

1684
00:59:36,824 --> 00:59:38,824
and he tears down the wicked things that

1685
00:59:38,824 --> 00:59:40,844
his father had instilled and

1686
00:59:41,545 --> 00:59:42,045
elevates

1687
00:59:42,505 --> 00:59:43,565
God to the position

1688
00:59:43,864 --> 00:59:44,605
or rather,

1689
00:59:45,144 --> 00:59:47,724
he doesn't elevate God because man can't elevate

1690
00:59:47,785 --> 00:59:48,605
God. But

1691
00:59:49,224 --> 00:59:49,965
he places

1692
00:59:50,630 --> 00:59:53,849
God as the central ideal for his kingdom

1693
00:59:53,910 --> 00:59:54,309
again,

1694
00:59:55,190 --> 00:59:55,690
which

1695
00:59:56,230 --> 00:59:59,349
encourages the people of Israel or rather not

1696
00:59:59,349 --> 00:59:59,849
Israel,

1697
01:00:00,230 --> 01:00:01,610
the people of Judah,

1698
01:00:02,070 --> 01:00:03,289
rather, to

1699
01:00:04,655 --> 01:00:05,234
re acknowledge

1700
01:00:06,494 --> 01:00:07,394
God's lordship.

1701
01:00:09,054 --> 01:00:11,714
And all that is to say that in

1702
01:00:12,094 --> 01:00:15,234
this show, Sicily does the same thing where

1703
01:00:15,695 --> 01:00:18,494
she sees the ideals that her grandfather and

1704
01:00:18,494 --> 01:00:19,739
father before her

1705
01:00:20,219 --> 01:00:21,199
have put forward.

1706
01:00:22,300 --> 01:00:23,280
And instead,

1707
01:00:23,579 --> 01:00:26,219
she turns away from that and actively seeks

1708
01:00:26,219 --> 01:00:28,079
to tear down these things that

1709
01:00:28,860 --> 01:00:31,360
have been implemented and are being implemented

1710
01:00:31,900 --> 01:00:33,360
that is being so destructive

1711
01:00:34,059 --> 01:00:35,440
to her people, basically.

1712
01:00:35,954 --> 01:00:36,454
Right.

1713
01:00:37,635 --> 01:00:39,394
And all that is to say that the

1714
01:00:39,394 --> 01:00:40,614
moral of this is

1715
01:00:40,994 --> 01:00:41,635
you don't

1716
01:00:42,114 --> 01:00:44,594
who your parents are, who your lineage is

1717
01:00:44,594 --> 01:00:46,855
doesn't define who you have to be.

1718
01:00:47,875 --> 01:00:48,535
A common

1719
01:00:49,050 --> 01:00:49,710
a common

1720
01:00:50,489 --> 01:00:53,210
a common phrase that's used among certain church

1721
01:00:53,210 --> 01:00:55,309
folk is generational curses,

1722
01:00:56,730 --> 01:00:59,150
which are brought up in the Bible. However,

1723
01:00:59,610 --> 01:01:02,410
we're under a new covenant, whereas we're no

1724
01:01:02,410 --> 01:01:04,670
longer under the under a curse.

1725
01:01:05,025 --> 01:01:07,684
And who you are doesn't have to be

1726
01:01:08,065 --> 01:01:08,964
that generational

1727
01:01:09,264 --> 01:01:09,764
curse,

1728
01:01:10,704 --> 01:01:13,905
because the Bible talks about generational blessing as

1729
01:01:13,905 --> 01:01:14,405
well.

1730
01:01:15,744 --> 01:01:16,244
And

1731
01:01:16,784 --> 01:01:17,764
when we become

1732
01:01:18,224 --> 01:01:18,724
Christians,

1733
01:01:19,409 --> 01:01:21,569
we are placed in a new a new

1734
01:01:21,569 --> 01:01:25,409
lineage where we become a of a royal

1735
01:01:25,409 --> 01:01:26,789
line, the Bible says.

1736
01:01:27,170 --> 01:01:27,670
Right.

1737
01:01:28,690 --> 01:01:31,809
So my encouragement to you is don't be

1738
01:01:31,809 --> 01:01:35,054
discouraged because of what you come from, who

1739
01:01:35,054 --> 01:01:36,434
you were or who

1740
01:01:36,894 --> 01:01:39,855
your family are, but be encouraged and be

1741
01:01:39,855 --> 01:01:41,775
of good cheer that we have a new

1742
01:01:41,775 --> 01:01:42,275
father

1743
01:01:42,655 --> 01:01:44,735
through Christ. And I think that might even

1744
01:01:44,735 --> 01:01:46,034
be a Bible verse somewhere.

1745
01:01:46,574 --> 01:01:47,074
But

1746
01:01:47,519 --> 01:01:49,119
yeah. So I mean, that that was the

1747
01:01:49,119 --> 01:01:51,140
common thought that kept going through my head

1748
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:51,780
when

1749
01:01:52,159 --> 01:01:53,539
I was watching this. So

1750
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:55,920
it's not as well thought out as I

1751
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:58,400
normally like to have these when I have

1752
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:00,640
them, but it's what I got. I like

1753
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:02,179
it. That was good. Huzzah.

1754
01:02:02,735 --> 01:02:03,474
Good job.

1755
01:02:04,574 --> 01:02:06,914
So with that being said,

1756
01:02:07,375 --> 01:02:08,655
how do you wanna close this out? We're

1757
01:02:08,655 --> 01:02:11,215
not really promoting anything at the moment, are

1758
01:02:11,215 --> 01:02:13,375
we? Is is it is there a theme

1759
01:02:13,375 --> 01:02:16,719
for October yet on the geek devotions front,

1760
01:02:16,719 --> 01:02:19,119
the comm talk? Yeah. It's, it's spooky. We're

1761
01:02:19,119 --> 01:02:21,359
we're talking about stuff that is, it's, it

1762
01:02:21,359 --> 01:02:23,359
talloweeny, but it's not so scary. But it's

1763
01:02:23,359 --> 01:02:23,679
it's,

1764
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:24,900
spooptober.

1765
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:26,659
Yeah. Okay.

1766
01:02:26,974 --> 01:02:29,695
Alright. Well, we might do a bonus episode

1767
01:02:29,695 --> 01:02:32,175
for some spoop next month. So you might

1768
01:02:32,175 --> 01:02:34,175
catch 3 because we only got one this

1769
01:02:34,175 --> 01:02:35,795
month, and I again, I apologize.

1770
01:02:36,494 --> 01:02:37,795
September was

1771
01:02:38,494 --> 01:02:40,755
hard all over. I'll put it like that.

1772
01:02:41,054 --> 01:02:41,550
Yeah.

1773
01:02:43,390 --> 01:02:44,690
So that being said,

1774
01:02:45,309 --> 01:02:46,750
how how do we land this? It's been

1775
01:02:46,750 --> 01:02:47,329
a minute.

1776
01:02:47,630 --> 01:02:48,989
Well, first off, we invite people to check

1777
01:02:48,989 --> 01:02:50,349
out the Discord channel and the rest of

1778
01:02:50,349 --> 01:02:51,469
the Geek to Ocean Network. Go to geek

1779
01:02:51,469 --> 01:02:53,565
toositions.com where you can find more episodes about

1780
01:02:53,565 --> 01:02:55,565
the bottom shelf, the Gundam watch. We read

1781
01:02:55,565 --> 01:02:57,344
allegedly, which John is a part of,

1782
01:02:57,804 --> 01:03:00,204
allegedly, and other fantastic podcasts. Don't forget to

1783
01:03:00,204 --> 01:03:01,885
check us on socials, Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter.

1784
01:03:01,885 --> 01:03:03,005
Don't look for Twitter because we don't have

1785
01:03:03,005 --> 01:03:04,944
that, but look for the bottom shelf.

1786
01:03:06,630 --> 01:03:08,389
And then you say something about Salonga, thanks

1787
01:03:08,389 --> 01:03:09,849
for all the fish. Or is that Celeste?

1788
01:03:10,230 --> 01:03:12,230
Celeste does that on We Read Allegedly. So

1789
01:03:12,549 --> 01:03:13,769
That's right. Oh, well.

1790
01:03:14,630 --> 01:03:17,190
Bye, everybody. And we'll hope to catch on

1791
01:03:17,190 --> 01:03:19,190
the next episode, and we hope to have

1792
01:03:19,190 --> 01:03:21,609
that out to you sooner rather than later.

1793
01:03:21,775 --> 01:03:23,315
Alright. Buy cheese puffs.

1794
01:03:23,614 --> 01:03:24,994
Stay fresh cheese bags.

1795
01:03:25,534 --> 01:03:26,034
Maybe.