Welcome to the Bishop Strickland hour.
My name is Terry Barber and I'm honored again to be with Bishop Strickland.
Thanks again,
Bishop Strickland for taking an hour every week to share the gospel with us.
Thanks Terry.
Bishop Strickland.
I have so many tweets from you because I was out for a week and I just I'm
excited because you tweeted thanking Cardinal Burke, uh,
because of a interview, he did,
you said we must stand firm for the truth that Jesus Christ lived suffered
died in rose to share with humanity and faithful
Catholics must remain in the church.
Hold Bishop's accountable to the apostolic tradition.
Now I wanna get into this because it inspires us.
Lay people when Cardinals and bishops like yourself, tell us, Hey,
wait a minute. You need to stick to the perennial teachings of the church.
You can't be making this stuff up. I made a promise.
So let me just quote something that he said. He said,
if everyone leaves the church, uh,
would otherwise fall into the hands of those who destroy the faith and the
practice Bishop, uh, Cardinal Burke said that, uh,
he said he encouraged Catholics to remain in the church in fidelity to who
Christ, not to the Bishop, sorry, Bishop,
but to Jesus Christ and the work from within the church for much
needed ecclesiastical reform,
even should it require openly correcting bishops when
they betray the faith. Now, Bishop Strickland,
I heard Pope Francis in 2017 to the Italian Bishop saying,
it's okay to criticize me. If you think I'm making a mistake.
You've said the same thing to me that when we study the catechism,
if I said something that wasn't consistent, don't wait until after the show,
bring it up now. And I'll stand corrected. Now,
Cardinal Burke is calling on guys like me to address things with
bishops and Cardinals and even the Pope to say, wait a minute,
how does this stand with our, you know, apostolic teachings?
Does that make you a little uncomfortable or are you glad the Cardinal did that?
No, I, I tweeted it because I was very glad to see Cardinal Burke,
very clear mm-hmm and not attacking anyone,
but supporting our faith in Jesus Christ and calling
all of us. We really all in the same reality,
we are merely human beings, men and women,
and yes,
we have different roles and we have greatly learned people,
but we all have to humbly look to Christ. Yeah,
he is the Godman. He is God's divine son.
And we are all humbled before him. Yeah.
To look to him, to see his truth more clearly,
we can see that truth in the Eucharist and all the sacraments.
He is the word of God incarnate. So yes, in the word of God,
with the challenges and the beautiful messages of God is love.
But also just like in this past week's gospel,
Jesus used very divisive words, right? And very,
um, words that
people in his time probably bristled at and people bristle at still.
Yeah. He says, if you don't hate father and mother, brother, and sister,
wife, or husband, you can't be my disciple.
That's strong to say, you must hate. And what Christ is getting at.
And what I tried to say to the people. And it's the same thing.
Ultimately mm-hmm, ,
it's about being of the truth and what Christ is getting
at in that gospel. And what Cardinal Burke is getting at is we have to
do everything to stay with the truth. Christ is truth in car.
So staying with Christ is by definition, staying with the truth,
like you just said, any Pope, Bishop Cardinal,
any other human being mm-hmm we can all make mistakes.
We can all misstep. Yeah.
We can all state things that we really didn't even intend to say it that way.
But that's how it's interpreted. That's our human weak human reality,
but we're all called to look to Christ.
And I was so glad to see Cardinal Burke very clearly saying,
we look to Christ. He speaks of the apostolic tradition.
Another way of talking about that is the positive faith. Amen.
And every Bishop has when their
ordained Bishop or consecrated, Bishop, whichever term you use,
when you become a Bishop,
you make many promises in public before the people of God
and before the ordained pellets. And one of those promises,
which is key right now is you will guard the deposit of faith.
That's exactly what Cardinal Burke is talking about.
You as a baptized husband, father, grandfather. Yep.
You're called to guard the deposit of faith from your baptism. Amen.
Not with the same gravity as a Bishop has you,
haven't made a public promise to do that,
but you have made vows of baptism that you have
repeated and renewed. I'm sure many times over,
and it comes down to the same truth.
We are to guard a truth that is beyond us.
That is outside us. That is found in the incarnate son of God.
So both of us get excited about these things because we
need to exactly the world is in,
in desperate need of clarity and truth in the church,
in our nation in and globally, truth is real.
Truth is, has a face. Yep.
Truth is incarnate among us in Jesus Christ.
The son of God who is still with us. Amen.
That's what Cardinal Burke is reminding us that we can't just roll over
and say, oh, well this Bishop or this church leader said something.
We don't believe that's the truth, but we're not supposed to say anything.
Yes we are. Amen.
We're supposed to speak up all of us to guard the deposit of faith to guard
the truth. That is Jesus Christ. And when you know him personally,
yes. When you develop that personal connection to Jesus Christ, as,
as a real person present in the Eucharist and the power of his word
present in our lives, deeply living within us,
then we're going to stand up and like the saints and the martyrs.
If we have to, we'll give our lives for the truth of Christ.
Wow. Yeah. You and Bishop, you and Cardinal Burke are on the same page.
He said this about the Senate. I just thought this one paragraph said it. Well,
he said, Catholics must bear, witness to the truth.
How many times have you said that?
All kinds of times he said Cardinal Burke said addressing the distress of
Orthodox Catholics at an agenda of a ProSal bishops,
such as those in Germany and Ireland who are aggressively pushing
for another church and another faith that says it pretty clear.
Bert tries to bolster the laity in their witness to Christ saying
in the tradition of the church, a Senate is a way to find out how to,
are you ready?
I've heard this from too many bishops defend and promote the Catholic faith,
not to create another church or another faith.
I think these good Catholics, as painful as it is,
must remain in their communities and fight for the truth of the faith.
To me, that's inspiring. Bishop Strickland, have a Cardinal say, don't run,
fight this out.
Yeah, absolutely.
And then the last thing I won, last thing,
but one of the things he said was so beautiful. He said,
we thus remain with Christ.
Even if we have to speak very openly with our own bishops,
when they propose something that does not correspond to the Catholic faith,
we must return to sacred tradition.
You've been saying that for a couple years with me, but you know,
Bishop Strickland, it's nice to hear a Cardinal,
just say the same thing you're saying to us,
because he's emphasizing a need to be faithful to the church's
apostolic tradition,
the Cardinal declared to call fidelity to Catholic doctrine.
And I like what he says, when we get accused of rigidity, he says,
it's simply wrong.
Burke reminds lay faithful that they have a right and duty to express their
concerns about the church, to their pastors. He also recalls to the bishops,
their duty to uphold to faith,
which they undertook by an oath at their Episcopal consecration.
Can you explain what you made that promise? What is that all about?
Well, it's the, what we were talking about, guarding the deposit of faith. Good.
And there are many questions in there that are,
are asking various facets of that support,
the church that Christ died for. Yeah. And rose for.
Got it. That's what it's about. It's about Jesus Christ.
And we use apostolic tradition deposit of faith,
but it's about what did Jesus say? What did he tell us?
What is the tradition of understanding of what Jesus said when he was with
us? Yeah. He's the son of God who rose from the dead. Yep.
We better listen to him.
Amen. Cardinal Burke. Thank you for your clarity. We need this.
If you wanna share, read the whole article it's at life site news folks.
I love giving references to resources for you because you won't go wrong with
Cardinal Burke. You know, his background.
What do you call him as the head cannon lawyer? What's that term? Uh,
Bishop Strickland, that he was the, uh, head of the, uh,
cannon law in Rome for many years under Benedict the 16th.
And so he should know cannon law better than anyone else. And he keeps saying,
I hear him say it a lot.
That the last cannon of cannon law says it's all can laws for is for the
salvation of souls. And I like the way Bishop sheen says it. If souls are saved,
everything is saved. If souls aren't saved, nothing is saved.
When we come back from the break, I'd like to, uh, comment about, uh,
Bishop Robert Barron. He, I listen to him all the time.
I don't necessarily, you know, think about salvation. I have questions on,
but I love his scripture commentaries. And he seems to, uh,
and I'll just tease the audience before the break.
Now that he's an ordinary of a diocese rather than an auxiliary Bishop and
correct me if I'm wrong. But when you're an auxiliary Bishop,
you're kind of like, uh, not,
you don't have authority that a Bishop has in his own diocese.
He's kind of just working for the Archbishop of that diocese.
But it seems that when Bishop Baron became a Bishop up in Minnesota,
I mean, he just came out with a strong statement against, uh,
the president of the United States,
which I'd never heard him say regarding abortion.
He's coming out and calling the, the president to repentance. And I thought,
wow, Bishop Baron, thank you for doing that.
And I wanna talk about that with Bishop Joseph Strickland on the
tweet that you said, because you seem to be, uh,
going all over the country saying that a boy, Bishop fed a boy. And I, I,
I just say, it's nice to hear that stay with this family. We'll be right back.
Welcome.
Back to the Bishop Strickland hour. My name's Terry Barber,
and we've been covering a couple tweets that Bishop Strickland has talked about.
And one of them was with, uh, Bishop Robert Baron.
Who's now an ordinary and I guess Bishop Strickland,
I should turn it to you what that means versus an auxiliary Bishop.
But he's really just speaking up for the unborn and I'm hearing more and more
bishops, you know, pointing this out because, uh, I, I think,
and maybe I'm wrong, but in a, an ordinary Bishop, like you are,
you're not an auxiliary Bishop.
Is it true that you have more responsibility for the diocese than an
auxiliary Bishop for a larger diocese? Is, is,
is there a distinction made there for authority?
Yeah, absolutely. The, uh,
the ordinary or the diocese and Bishop mm-hmm is the authority in
the diocese. Certainly the auxiliary, Bishop or bishops,
if he has an auxiliary collaborate with him, but the Bishop is the, yeah,
the canonical authority for the diocese,
just like a pastor is for a parish and then may have
assistant priest,
but they just don't have the same responsibility or authority that the,
the Bishop does. So, okay. I'm glad to see, frankly, um,
Bishop Baron, it's an added responsibility,
a more weighty responsibility,
but he seems to be speaking up more and we
need to, as we've talked about before,
we need a chorus of bishops calling president Biden and all
the other mm-hmm elected officials, Nancy Pelosi.
That really certainly if they claim to be Catholic,
that puts it at a whole different level,
but these politicians Catholic or not,
we've got to stand for the truth and we've got to challenge them on these
atrocities of abortion. I mean,
I just read that New York state just enacted a law or
passed a law yeah. Or was enacted yet, but basically, um,
legalizing in infanticide, oh God,
28 days after birth, Unbelievable, uh, killing children.
And you know, it just gets crazier all the time and we've got to,
again,
lovingly and clearly speak the truth of the sanctity of life.
So I'm, I applaud Bishop Baron for speaking up.
And I have an idea that he will hear more from him because he is
a diocese and Bishop now with that responsibility and that
authority.
Right. I agree. And you know, what, what you tweeted about, uh, you, you know,
I love the little quick tweets that you say Jesus, uh, Christ is Lord.
And then underneath this tweet, uh,
true bravery is following Christ in a world that hates him.
It seems what you just described. The world has gone nuts.
Let's just put it in Verna in the vernacular. I mean, it's a,
it's crazy out there. We're in California,
we see things like New York happening. And it,
it seems to me that that quote that you put true BA bravery is
following Christ in a world that hates him. It seems that it hates them,
hates Jesus Christ because the moral teachings of Christianity are at
odds with the world. And it's always been the case. I mean,
it's not like this is a new, you know, dynamic, but that's why, uh,
who's influencing who the church is influencing the world,
or is the world influencing the church, Bishop Strickland.
I'm gonna give you my opinion.
We got too much influencers outside the church today. That's my take.
Absolutely. All right. And hatred of, uh, as that,
um,
photo or that image that I tweeted, um,
it really speaks so profoundly because as we said
earlier, truth is Christ Christ is truth incarnate. Yep.
So he is the face of truth. So hatred of the truth,
it's hatred of Christ, amen. And many people do hate the truth.
They don't want to pay attention to what is true.
They wanna shape it according to what they've decided. And it,
it just isn't reality. And it's not going to last,
it may last the rest of our lifetime. I mean, hopefully not, but hopefully will,
people will wake up to the truth and we'll start moving back from some of this.
But like you said, more and more,
we're seeing leaders and yes, and families that,
and on the local level and on the national, on the global level,
people rejecting the truth. When you reject the truth,
Dave facto, you are rejecting Jesus Christ because he is truth. Amen.
And that's what we see many people, you know, I will post things,
even just a scripture passage with no commentary.
And I'll see people just attacking it and say, who said this?
And this is horrible. And it, it is like, it's the word of God people. Yeah.
And yeah, it's challenging.
But all of the word of God together brings us the revealed truth
of who we are and who God is. And we better listen.
Wow. You just talk about tweets. You tweeted father, uh, Jared,
he has a, he had assume he's a chaplain for colleges.
And you had a tweet that you support what he's doing. He says this,
and then I'll ask your comment, what you tweeted about. He says,
as I get to know all these awesome college students,
this chaplain says more and more.
One thing is coming in crystal clear.
They're not interested in weak Catholicism. Oh, that's great to hear.
They want truth. They want beauty. They want goodness.
They want tradition. They want community.
They want authentic masculinity.
They want authentic femininity. They want heaven. I love it.
They want other souls to get there with them. Wow.
What a priest? I don't know who this priest is, Bishop,
but I'm glad you tweeted what he said.
Cuz it gives me hope for our young people.
Yeah. He, he said it well. And,
and that's what we have to realize is many
people. Yeah. We've talked about how the world is,
is rejecting the truth and hates Christ hates the truth. But many people,
many people because of what they're hearing are waking up and hungering for the
truth. And we've got to share it with them because this,
the truth that Christ has revealed to us by his very life,
his very presence among us, truth incarnate. It's,
it's what sets us free. It's what helps us flourish.
It brings the solution to all the problems we see in the world.
And I think a lot of young people, a lot of people, whatever age,
but a lot of young people are,
they've been steeped in the world's got the answers.
The world is going to fix everything.
And they're beginning to recognize that that's not happening.
And they are looking for the real truth.
That is Christ himself.
Well said that quote from the priest,
talking to the college students reminds me of Archbishop sheen
70 years ago. And I just keep saying it,
I know I sound like a broken record about Bishop sheen,
but he said the day that man forgets that love is identical
with sacrifice.
He will ask how a God of love could demand mortification
and self denial. I tie that right into what the priest was talking about.
Young people want the authentic truth. And if we're giving them milk toast,
Catholicism that says, you know, just, no, don't worry about the good Friday,
your suffering penance, you know, mortification self. Now that's old school.
Just just know that you're gonna all get to heaven. See, that's not true.
And I think what Bishop sheen said 70 years applies to us just like what this
priest said today. Would you agree with that? Bishop Strickland?
Absolutely. Yeah. Um, powerful. We've got to share the truth.
Yeah. And be challenged by the truth. All of us. And, and that's,
we're just living in a time where people are trying to make the truth,
something they've decided and it, it doesn't work. Um, and it,
it brings harm in this life.
And it causes us to forget about the salvation of souls,
which is the whole purpose of the church that Christ established.
Well, to talk about speaking the truth,
another Plet in Archbishop up in Portland, Oregon,
you tweeted this, you said I'm grateful that Archbishop sample has spoken.
So clearly here about the plague of lies that is strangling our
world, all faith leaders, all God's faithful.
People must speak the truth to the lies that are flooding our culture.
Truth is the greatest mercy. I underlined that. What you just said,
truth is the greatest mercy. Well, what did he do?
The Archbishop condemned abortion transgenderism ideology.
He said a man's body doesn't make sense without a woman's body and a
woman's body doesn't make sense without a man's body. My good friend, father,
Joe FCI from Ignatius press at a family conference was saying the same thing.
And he was saying that a man and a woman are made to,
to be together. That's the way God designed it. He said, you know, uh,
any other way of having this union, the parts don't work.
They won't fit because God designed a man in a certain way and a woman,
a certain way. It wasn't, uh,
designed any other way to have a woman and a woman for marriage or a man and a
man having conjugal love. They can't, that's not the what God designed.
So Bishop Strickland here again, another brother,
Bishop speaking out boldly on these issues that I'm sure he got a lot of
hate mail for that.
Oh, I'm sure. And he's in a very difficult place. I mean,
I'm in Texas, which thankfully is, is better. But uh,
all of the false messaging about gender ideology,
about the,
the right to kill unborn children in abortion,
all of these false messages are, we're not protected from 'em anywhere.
Certainly there's some places that have embraced them more fully and we have to
pray for those places. But we, we need to, all of us recognize,
we've got to proclaim the truth and share that truth and stand
strong for the truth,
because there are too many people that are being swept into the
confusion and into the,
the darkness that comes from denying the
truth.
Well, we'll talk about another Bishop. I,
I don't think we've ever had this many bishops on the same page and I just wanna
expose people that we've got hope in the church there's successors of the
apostles are going, wait a minute, wait time out. This isn't right.
I've gotta speak up because that's what I'm supposed to do as a successor of the
apostle Bishop McManus. I don't even,
I've never heard his name before he's out up in the Dakotas. He said,
he said this, that was unbelievable. South Dakota's bishops span,
publicly transgender people from holy communion, thus,
when a person experiences,
same sex attraction or some form of gender dysphoria,
he said, such struggles do not change the biological fact. So in other words,
you can have these tendencies, but you don't act on them. And he's saying that,
uh, something that I would think he's really gonna get nailed for, uh,
by the public here, especially the administration,
who's pushing so hard in our Congress right now and the democratic parties right
at we, as we speak right now, we're trying to push through, uh, these, uh,
laws that will embolden homosexuals to have these kind of rights.
So Bishop Strickland, again, you said another Bishop. I support,
I love it. When you say that, because sometimes I was thinking,
when I first met you like, man,
why aren't there more Bishop Stricklands around that's what I said to
myself. But I see that more and more coming out.
And I'm sure you said his decision will be labeled as an attack by those
who choose to ignore what the truth God is revealed to us.
The Bishop is simply supporting the truth and sharing the truth is
always the greatest charity. Oh man, you we're gonna come back from a break.
He says, you should, my heart embraces the truth.
This is powerful that a Bishop will reach out and say this to people.
He must really love his flock because he's willing to take it on the chin for
his flock. And that's what Jesus Christ did.
And he's another Christ as a Bishop and priest, while stay with us family,
we'll be back with more of the Bishop Strickland hour.
Welcome back to the Terry, the Bishop Strickland hour, but mixed up on my shows,
Bishop Strickland. I love the tweets you've been giving.
They're so inspirational in times where some people can look at, you know,
we see the facts for every one Catholic that comes into the church eight or
leaving. Okay, that's a tragedy.
We have to acknowledge that we got problems on our hands and we need to respond
in a proportionate measure by sharing the good news of Christ and his church.
Uh, you, you quoted Saint Augustine, Bishop and doctor of the church. What a,
how can you go wrong? Bishop went quoting Saint Augustine. He says,
you have made us for yourself. Oh Lord.
And our hearts are restless until they rest in you. And in your quote,
I want you to expand on this. You said our world is filled with restlessness.
Yes. Mental illness is at its peak com suicides at its peak right now
because so many have rejected God, the father,
son and holy spirit well said,
may hearts awaken to our only hope for peace and fulfillment,
almighty God until they do their restlessness will continue to bring
harm and sadness. San Augustine, pray for us.
What a great message to the world to say, look, all this nonsense of, you know,
um, worldliness, uh, uh, the problem with drug addiction,
suicide. We got, um, sex addictions. When you know,
we have the answer and I'm not quite sure Bishop Strickland enough people in our
church are saying, look to Christ. That's what you're saying. Isn't it.
Absolutely look to God, father, son,
and spirit like Saint Augustine says so well,
our hearts are restless to the rest in God because we come from God.
We are made in the image and likeness of God. And that's,
that's what we've forgotten into too, too many ways.
Even those of us who claim to be people of faith,
we need to really reflect on what that means and
to be made in the image and likeness of God is really what St.
Augustine is talking about. We're not going to be fulfilled.
We're not going to be at peace.
We're not going to be ourselves until we are with
God.
Amen.
I'm gonna throw you a curve ball because I know the last segment you can't join
us cuz you've got another meeting to go to.
But I think you're a pretty good ball player, a Bishop Strickland.
He could hit my curve ball.
I had a quote that I found over the weekend that blew me away. And I said,
I gotta share this with the Bishop on air fair, no on air. And uh,
statement says a religion whose people give nothing,
cost them nothing. And who suffered, nothing is worth nothing.
And I thought, well, I agree with that statement. You know,
this is a great statement to make today. And I said to myself, who said,
that was that Bishop Shane? No, I can agree with this man.
Even though he tore the church apart in the fifth, 16th century,
that was Martin Luther. Does that shock you? Bishop STR it shocked me.
Yeah, but you see a, a clock can be right twice.
a day, even if it's not working properly.
But God bless Martin Luther. When he said this,
a religion whose people give nothing, cost them nothing and who suffer,
nothing is worth nothing.
And I think of how that applies to when I read that over the weekend, I thought,
see, that's why we have to ask more of our flock and not be like,
I'll give you an example.
You probably heard the Dutch church that came out and said,
we're not gonna have weekly masses anymore.
Cuz it's just too expensive with the electricity and heating. You know,
we just can't do that. We have a shortage of clergy and uh,
this church in it's 4% of the Catholics, only 4% go to church.
Now it's sad. But what,
what I didn't like is that in 1966,
the Dutch bishops way back right after the council came out with a
catechism that was heretical, the church had to condemn it.
They didn't believe in angels, a devil and you know,
all these modernistic ideas, the, the Dutch church taught in their catechism.
And I believe this is the fruit of false teaching disbelief.
Your thoughts. Absolutely. Yeah. When you disengage from the truth.
Yeah. You be, you become more and more lost. Yeah.
And that happened in the Dutch church and it's happening all
over the church. Now we've got to return to the truth, return to Christ.
Yeah. And face, face the challenges.
I mean that quote from Martin Luther is very interesting. And like you said,
I mean, he,
he was a reformer who went the wrong direction and yeah. You know,
and there, there are plenty of, um,
reasons why that happened historically and everything.
And I certainly am no expert in and Martin Luther,
but what he says is very true and it really
reminds me of what Christ says in the gospel. Exactly.
And just simply,
if you want to be my disciple, you must take up your cross and follow me.
That's part of what Martin Luther is saying.
If we don't sacrifice anything, if we don't have any skin in the game,
then you know,
religion is just kinda like a parlor gun game or club to belong to.
And it means just about that much. And sadly,
too many people have create treated their faith that way.
Especially since COVID too many people have said,
well, I don't enjoy this parlor game anymore or it's too inconvenient.
Or for whatever reason, they just let go of it. Thankfully,
there are also many people that have,
have deepened their faith and are holding even more tenaciously
kind of going back to those people that are already beginning to do what
Cardinal Burke yeah. Was asking of the,
the laity stand up for the truth,
call your Bishop back to the truth. Challenge us. And as I've said,
many times, Terry, yeah, I'm ready to be challenged if,
if it's not in the, the catechism mm-hmm ,
if it's contrary to the faith,
if it's not according to what the church teaches and it,
and we can go to extreme in all kinds of different directions. Yeah.
We can be more Catholic than, than Catholicism, right? If we,
if we choose to, yeah. I mean, we've got to stay with Christ. Amen.
Stay with his church.
Well said Bishop Strickland, we don't go an hour,
an hour show without talking about the holy Eucharist.
Our lady defending the, uh, unborn every single show.
And this is no difference. You are quoting Saint Francis of Assisi.
And I think most people don't think of Saint Francis of Assisi, uh,
speaking so beautifully about the holy Eucharist.
They think about butterfly sometimes. And you know, he was good for the nature,
but here's the quote you said, man, should tremble.
The world should vibrate. All heaven should be deeply moved.
When the son of God appears on the altar in the hands
of the priest, I'm gonna,
I'm gonna cut this out and look at it every time I go to mass,
this is a powerful quote. Give us your thoughts on it.
Well, I agree. It's a, it's a powerful quote.
And I think it does say something to us, um,
because it's from St. Francis. Yeah. Like you said, we,
we tend to think of him as, and he is, he love the animals, loves creation.
Um, the TruBid door of love and all of that.
But I think that what is the source
of that love is Jesus Christ present in the Eucharist. And, and I think he,
he talks about as we continue this Eucharistic revival,
I think that's a great quote for really reinvigorating our
awe and our reverence and our understanding of what happens at
that altar and what happens for me as a priest,
I need to be in awe and everyone at mass,
we all need to be in awe at what happens to that bread and wine.
As we say,
the words of Christ himself in those words are
words of Christ. This is my body. This is my blood.
That's the awesome gift and responsibility of priesthood
is what the priest says at the Eucharistic altar and as priests
and bishops, we're challenged to really live that.
And so are all who come forward and receive the body and blood of Christ. So,
and, uh, as we've talked about before, mm-hmm, ,
there's so many great quotes from so many saints who speak
on the importance of the Eucharist and how Christ is really present
and how we must develop a deeper and deeper reverence.
It, it goes back to what we were talking about earlier.
The Lord is present there, the Lord of truth, truth incarnate.
And so all the reverence for the Eucharist,
the blessed sacrament is about reverence for the reality of Christ.
We need him desperately in a world of darkness and false
messages.
And the Eucharist is that beacon of light for all of us to be nurtured
by truth incarnate in the Eucharist. I mean,
it is awesome if we just take the time to really think about it
and take the time to reverently,
enter into the liturgy of the mass and to reverently approach the
Eucharistic altar to receive the body and blood soul and divinity of Christ.
Well, Bishop Strickland, I think of what you tweeted about Dr.
Scott Hahn and 33 years ago, I met Dr.
Hah and recorded his first conversion story that millions of copies have gone
around the world. And he's written books on the fourth cup, a lamb supper.
I remember listening to this convert, awaken my, uh,
catechesis on the holy Eucharist. And he, you know, he's like, uh,
Henry Newman in a sense, he awoken, uh, a, uh, a, a, a,
a part of the Catholic church that said we're cradle Catholics,
but we didn't know our, uh,
we have had IIA that we forgot about the fathers of the church and covenantal
theology. You quoted Dr.
Hah in a tweet that says in the old Testament,
earthly worship was carried out,
merely in the imitation of heaven worship.
Now in Jesus Christ,
heaven and earth have been United in a great cosmic liturgy
with the angels and saints worshiping together.
The mass is the combined worship of heaven and earth,
a Folsom worship of the communion of the saints. 33 years ago.
I remember him talking like that and I went, wow.
I never heard anybody talk like that. That makes sense.
I I've heard Fulton sheen. Talk about that worship, but what made you,
uh, quote Dr. Hahn on the holy Eucharist? What,
what gave you inspiration on that?
Well, he just says it. Well, what is so important for us to remember?
The mass is not just some sort of a community gathering.
Mm-hmm it is heaven and earth coming together well said,
but that's what we, that's where the reverence comes from.
We are touching heaven. Amen. Who come to the Eucharistic altar.
That's another one of those to read before you get the holy mass every day,
Bishop Strickland. I know you gotta run.
I'll I'll tie it down on the fourth segment. Thanks again for joining us.
Can we get it now? Not even a quick blessing. I should have got it quicker.
We'll be back with, uh, the Bishop Strickland, our stay with us family.
God bless.
Welcome back to the Bishop Strickland hour. Unfortunately,
he had to run to a meeting and I'm always amazed how he makes a commitment one
hour, a week,
as busy as he is in his diocese to speak to us,
our listeners about the Catholic faith.
And I just love it using the catechism of the Catholic church and his tweets.
And I wanted to talk a little bit about a tweet,
even though he can't join me for this. But again,
he's constantly been talking about the truth. You know,
the truth is what sets us free. And here's the,
the latest tweet about the truth. He said this,
he quoted this in a tweet when God wanted to
create fish,
he spoke to the sea when God wanted to create trees,
he spoke to the earth, but when God wanted to create man,
he turned to himself. God said,
let us make man in our image and in our likeness
and Genesis. Now, if you take a fish outta water,
what's gonna happen, it will die.
And when you remove a tree from soil,
it will also die. Likewise,
when man is disconnected from God, he dies.
You like that analogy. I did.
We're like fish in the water with God we're made.
That's our that's our environment. God is our natural environment.
We were created to live in his presence.
We have to be connected to him because it is only in him
that life exists. Let us stay connected to God,
God, without man is still God. But man,
without God is nothing.
I think of that because as if Bishop Strickland was here, I'd say Saturdays,
I go to a breakfast with a lot of old guys from high school.
50 years ago, my, my baseball coach,
who's 81 years old is there.
And after the breakfast,
one of the Protestant men that good Protestant guy says to me, well,
he had asked me for a catechism of the Catholic church,
cuz I talk about our Catholic faith,
a lot to these men on these Saturday breakfasts.
And he read the catechism and he thought, man, what a beautiful, he told me.
He said, this is a beautiful, beautiful, um,
statement regarding, um, you know, the catechism on faith,
hope and charity. I've never read anything so beautiful.
So we've been talking about Catholicism and he said to me,
if the truth takes me into the church, I'm willing to come. I thought, well,
God bless him. That's the kind of men we need. Well, today or Saturday,
he said to me, Terry, can I ask you a question?
What does it mean to be living with God?
And it's kinda like living in the presence of God.
So I asked that a little prayer to my guardian angel to answer him the best way
I can. I said, well, you know, in the Bible and talks about the, our father,
Jesus teaches us how to pray. And our father who art in heaven,
hallowed be th name by kingdom, come by, will be done doing the will of God.
You're living in the presence of God.
And how do you do that by fulfilling your date,
your duties in your state and life, whether you're a good father or mother,
whatever your duties are, that's how you fulfill living with God. And he went,
wow. I never thought of that. Well, that was God speaking.
But you see people want the truth.
They know whether they're even a committed Christian.
They know the world is in trouble. They sense it.
And they're looking for truth.
And that's why we as Catholics have to speak up every time and not feel like,
oh, I can't say anything. Who am I to say it? You can speak up for the truth.
You know why? Cuz that's what sets us free.
Now I wanted to, uh,
send another little tweet that, that, um,
Bishop Strickland points out and every year he does this on September 5th.
Why Saint Teresa Calcutta died? I think 1999,
uh, 1997, excuse me.
And he quoted her saying prayer is the breadth of
life to our soul.
Holiness is impossible without it. Well, salvation is,
is impossible. Without it remember our Saint of Dr. The church,
Saint Alfonso's Lago said one who prays will be saved.
One who doesn't pray will be lost.
And that's why we need to be, you know, conscious of prayer in our life.
And that's important.
And as Bishop Strickland is pointing out in another tweet right before
Thanksgiving, I know this is coming up November,
we're in the middle of September, but he says,
as we move towards the feast of Jesus Christ,
king of the universe and draw close to another liturgical year,
the close of the year in November,
let us acknowledge Christ the king today. And every day,
may his reign over our world. Draw us closer to good.
The true and the beautiful.
And I say this because again,
mother Teresa died September 5th, 1997 at the
age of 87. And in the tweet,
there's a beautiful greeting with her in St.
Peter's Basilica a few months before she died.
One of the last times the saints were seen together,
mother Teresa and Saint John Paul too.
So that's a beautiful one.
And now I'd like to finish up the show where we started and that was Cardinal
Burke. Talking about Catholics must remain in the church,
hold Bishop's accountable to the apostolic tradition.
And he talked again and about how we have to
stay faithful to this doctrine. And don't people who call us rigid.
They're simply wrong.
Cardinal Burt reminds lay Fe people lay faithful that they have a right and
duty to express their concerns about the church to their pastors.
He's referring to cannon two 12.
He also recalled to the Bishop's their duty to uphold the faith,
which they undertook by oath at their Episcopal consecration.
If he didn't hear Bishop Strickland talk earlier in the show about what a Bishop
promises, when he's made a Bishop, wow, it's powerful.
He said the dynamism of the Catholic faith comes from continuity.
It doesn't come from breaking the apostolic teachings. He said,
be said,
the faith is God's work and comes through us through the tradition of the
apostles. He said, again, this is not rigidity, but he said,
but fidelity to tradition and the bishops are obliged to do so
by their oath. They took when they were ordained to be bishops,
to call fidelity to Catholic doctrine,
rigidity is simply wrong.
The faithful have a right in duty to express their concerns about
the church. Believers should openly exercise that, right?
It's in Canon login to 12.
And remember Gardner doubled down on the need for good Catholics like us to
correct bishops. This is exactly what Bishop sheen did in 1972.
When he said, who's gonna save the church. It's not the bishops Cardinals,
the Pope. He says it's to lay people.
So we have our marching orders and the Cardinals really telling good Catholics
to correct their bishops when they have spoken or acted against the faith saying
in cases where the faith is betrayed, even within the church,
it is even more important for her to insist on Catholic doctrine
and practices.
They must understand that they are not free to do so,
but they're obliged to defend the faith. In these times,
obedience. This is a powerful statement. Folks,
Bishop Cardinal Burke says obedience can never command us to do anything
that is against our faith and good morals. Give an example.
The Bishop tells you, you no longer should believe in the Trinity.
You can tell him to go pound sand.
I'm gonna make reparation prayer for your conversion.
That's not what the Catholic church teaches or like the Cardinal from Germany
when he was in Chicago, he said, sodomy is okay.
Now the Bible was wrong. No, but Cardinal, you are wrong. And I,
and I have an obligation to tell him that and a charity,
cuz I want him to repent of what he just did.
It's scandalous that a Cardinal would say sodomy is okay,
and that the Bible is wrong. That's so arrogant.
And you know, these are the guys that we need to make reparation for.
When our lady said,
souls are going to hell because no one knows how to pray and make
sacrifices for them.
We need to make prayers of sacrifices for these Ts who have
abandoned the apostolic teachings of the church.
And I like what the Cardinal said.
They must understand that they're not free to do so,
but they're obliged to defend the Catholic faith in these times. We are,
and this is a great line.
Obedience can never command us to do anything that is against the faith,
faith and good morals. I agree. Cardinal Burke.
You know, I mean,
if the Bishop told me that I had to change about my belief in the real presence,
I'd say go pound sand. I'm gonna repent.
I'm gonna ask you to repent of that false teaching. And we've had this before,
okay. This is not new. Well, this is, you know,
especially 500 years ago now when asked what practical means
the faithful might use in defense of the faith.
Here's what Cardinal Burke pointed out.
He said the effectiveness of the means of communications,
as well as the publications of great Catholic classics.
Go back to the fathers of the church, the doctors of the church. I agree.
And he said, first of all, perk said,
faith will need to use the means of communications to spread the message.
And for example,
to publish ecclesial exposion of the Catholic faith from the fathers
of the church, the great theologians,
the reliable authors of the present insist on taking, talking to,
uh, pastors about these issues.
Cardinal Burke remains a strong voice for us in the Catholic world.
And we appreciate his outspoken defense of the Catholic authentic doctrines
and practices. And if you think about it, what happened in the fourth century?
When, uh, one of the fathers of the church,
we talked about this earlier last month when, um,
the doctor of the church confronted one of the, um,
one of the, um, head guys that were running the show, uh,
in the secular world. And I'm trying to think of his name. I can't,
but it'll come to me and he wouldn't let him receive holy communion,
cuz he had committed a serious sin,
allowing 8,000 women and children to be murdered.
And the Bishop, I think it's Bishop, uh, my engineer will tell me,
I'm sure Bishop, I think, uh, not Anselm, but it was a fourth century,
Bishop Dr. Of the church. He wouldn't even let him in the church.
And what did he do? He called him to repentance. And six months later,
he repented and said, you're right, I'm wrong. And then two years after that,
he died in the state of grace objectively.
And we wouldn't have that Saint if he didn't do that because it would've been a
syn mission for not speaking out to that sinner,
just like it's a sinal mission,
not to speak to people who are for killing unborn babies
that are baptized Catholics outta charity.
We have to correct them cuz we want to see them in heaven. Wow.
This is the Bishop Strickland. Now he had to run for that last segment,
but I hope you enjoyed the show as much as I did. I just wanna remind you,
our lady said it at Fatima,
that souls are going to hell because no one's there to pray and make sacrifices.
We can pray for these bishops,
especially the good ones that are coming out and speaking out for the faith.
They need our prayer support. We should support them in every way we can,
because what they're doing is going upstream.
Even some of their brother bishops are not gonna be happy because they've spoken
out so boldly. Well,
so be it we've been here before folks let's keep it in prayer.
And if I was on the other show, I'd say, would Jesse,
what state should we be living in a state of grace,
a state shouldn't we be sit living in state of mortal sin,
get the confession at least once a month. That would be my recommendation.
We'll see you next week on the, on the Bishop Strickland hour on Virgin,
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