WEBVTT 00:00:19.000 --> 00:00:25.680 of you, you probably know this, but just a history, there was a verse in Proverbs 00:00:25.680 --> 00:00:32.320 that was brought up to me when I grew up in the church, and who else grew up in 00:00:32.320 --> 00:00:36.320 the church? You might grow up like, okay, some of them, man, raise your hand if you 00:00:36.320 --> 00:00:42.760 didn't grow up and and like, all right, they're like, they're like trauma, what's 00:00:42.760 --> 00:00:57.040 that? Different trauma, different trauma, we all got our own trauma. So I kind of got 00:00:57.040 --> 00:01:03.040 into a point where I was like, I don't understand why, like why is fear so 00:01:03.040 --> 00:01:17.240 prominent in teaching, in our faith, and then seeing kind of how our world is 00:01:17.240 --> 00:01:26.800 operating right now, and watching as churches and pastors were, I just, I saw 00:01:26.800 --> 00:01:32.240 a lot of fear, right? And it didn't make sense to me, like, why are we so 00:01:32.240 --> 00:01:37.240 afraid? Why is fear such, it's not a good motivator, we know it's not, and so when 00:01:37.240 --> 00:01:41.560 we started talking about that, you guys know this, but I did a video, somebody 00:01:41.560 --> 00:01:46.440 brought up a verse, the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom, I did, that 00:01:46.440 --> 00:01:51.880 doesn't make sense to me, how does fear lead you to wisdom? Didn't make sense, so 00:01:51.880 --> 00:01:55.680 deep dive on the word for fear, I'm not gonna tell you what it is, because I've 00:01:55.680 --> 00:02:03.720 got a question for you later, and found that ah, like, reverent ah was 00:02:03.720 --> 00:02:13.960 actually the word there, which is a different response than fear, and it's a 00:02:13.960 --> 00:02:19.440 perspective shift is really what it is, I'm gonna read you a passage real 00:02:19.440 --> 00:02:24.640 quick in Mark 4, you guys have heard this story I'm sure, so later that day, 00:02:24.640 --> 00:02:30.160 after it grew dark, Jesus said to His disciples, let's cross over to the other 00:02:30.160 --> 00:02:35.960 side of the lake, after they had sent the crowd away, they shoved off from shore 00:02:35.960 --> 00:02:40.960 with Him, as He had been teaching from the boat, and there were other boats that 00:02:40.960 --> 00:02:49.520 sailed with them, suddenly, as they were crossing the lake a ferocious 00:02:49.520 --> 00:02:56.720 tempest a rose, what's a tempest? It's ferocious, tempest a rose with violent winds 00:02:56.720 --> 00:03:02.000 and waves that were crashing into the boat until it was all but swamped, but 00:03:02.000 --> 00:03:08.040 Jesus was calmly sleeping in the stern, resting on a cushion, so they shook Him 00:03:08.040 --> 00:03:14.160 awake saying, "Teacher, don't you even care that we are all about to die, fully 00:03:14.160 --> 00:03:20.480 awake, He rebuked the storm and shouted to the sea," which I think is a miracle in 00:03:20.480 --> 00:03:26.080 itself, like they woke Him up and it says He was fully awake, like okay Jesus, showing 00:03:26.080 --> 00:03:31.880 off, fully awake, He rebuked the storm and shouted to the sea, "Hush, calm down," 00:03:31.880 --> 00:03:37.000 like He's talking to these kids, "all at once the winds stopped howling and the 00:03:37.000 --> 00:03:41.520 water became perfectly calm, then He turned to His disciples and said to them, 00:03:41.520 --> 00:03:48.040 "Why are you so afraid? Haven't you learned to trust yet?" But they were 00:03:48.040 --> 00:03:55.640 overwhelmed with fear and awe and said to one another, "Who is this man who has such 00:03:55.640 --> 00:04:01.840 authority that even the wind and the waves obey Him?" Jesus looked at him and 00:04:01.840 --> 00:04:08.480 He said, "Why are you so afraid? Haven't you learned to trust yet?" 00:04:08.720 --> 00:04:16.400 It feels to me like a lot of us are living in a Mark 4 moment. 00:04:17.560 --> 00:04:23.160 Jesus and His disciples, they're crossing the Sea of Galilee, the storm is raging 00:04:23.160 --> 00:04:30.120 and Jesus is asleep and the disciples are like, "Teacher, don't you care that 00:04:30.120 --> 00:04:36.080 we're all about to die? Like we're about to drown and you are sleeping." And I think 00:04:36.080 --> 00:04:43.560 that question feels familiar. Like, don't you care what's happening in our world? 00:04:43.560 --> 00:04:47.760 Don't you care what's happening in our country? Don't you care about the 00:04:47.760 --> 00:04:53.480 division, about the uncertainty? Don't you care about what might be coming next? 00:04:54.080 --> 00:05:01.680 And Jesus was sleeping. Now growing up I was told in moments like this that you 00:05:01.680 --> 00:05:06.120 just got to trust Jesus. You've got to have faith, you've got to trust Jesus. 00:05:06.120 --> 00:05:10.680 He knows what's coming next. He's got it. He's got ahead of us. You've got to 00:05:10.680 --> 00:05:23.680 trust Jesus, which sounds good. In His proper, like spiritually I would say, 00:05:23.680 --> 00:05:32.480 yes, makes sense. But how? Like, it seems so abstract to me. What do you mean? 00:05:32.480 --> 00:05:40.120 Like, I don't understand how this works. Like grip my teeth and it's a 00:05:40.120 --> 00:05:45.320 spiritual grit your teeth, pretending not to feel fear. It sounded like 00:05:45.320 --> 00:05:51.120 suppressing like anxiety and worrying to me. That's not true. I didn't know what it 00:05:51.120 --> 00:05:54.600 sounded like then. Now I look back and it's like no, we were just suppressing 00:05:54.600 --> 00:05:59.840 anxiety and fear and be like, I trust Jesus with all of it. But if you look 00:05:59.840 --> 00:06:04.600 closely at this story, the difference in that in that boat was not their 00:06:04.600 --> 00:06:11.080 position. They were in the same storm, same waves, same uncertainty, same lack 00:06:11.080 --> 00:06:18.560 of control. The difference wasn't the experience it was perspective. The 00:06:18.560 --> 00:06:24.600 disciples through fear were looking for certainty. They wanted the storm gone. 00:06:24.600 --> 00:06:33.080 They wanted control restored and they wanted predictability back. Jesus was 00:06:33.080 --> 00:06:39.320 just perceiving the moment differently. He wasn't denying the storm. He wasn't 00:06:39.320 --> 00:06:52.520 interpreting it through fear. He lived rooted in this reverent awe. And I think 00:06:52.520 --> 00:06:56.600 in the moment, Jesus calms the storm, I think there was a teaching moment there 00:06:56.600 --> 00:07:02.480 for his disciples. But I think the storm was just as much the teaching moment for 00:07:02.480 --> 00:07:10.520 them. And Jesus sleeping during the storm was a teaching moment for them. He was 00:07:10.520 --> 00:07:16.160 showing them what it looks like to not live in fear. Maybe to live in this 00:07:16.160 --> 00:07:22.480 place called awe. That all widens, if you look through a camera, you're like 00:07:22.480 --> 00:07:30.640 focused on something, awe would be like zooming out, widens the frame. Fear narrows 00:07:30.640 --> 00:07:37.720 it. It zooms right in on the thing that I'm afraid of. Fear says something bad is 00:07:37.720 --> 00:07:46.040 happening and I must control it. Or awe says something bigger is happening and I'm 00:07:46.040 --> 00:07:55.880 held within it. It's just a different perspective. The disciples were in fear 00:07:55.880 --> 00:08:00.200 of the storm. Jesus was in awe of the Father and an understanding of what the 00:08:00.200 --> 00:08:02.960 love looked like. They were in the same boat, different lens, and the lens 00:08:02.960 --> 00:08:10.040 determined their nervous system and the response in the moment. One produced 00:08:10.040 --> 00:08:21.920 panic, the other produced peace. So maybe trusting Jesus isn't this abstract idea. 00:08:21.920 --> 00:08:30.520 It's not forcing a belief, it's just shifting perspective. What we trust is what 00:08:30.520 --> 00:08:41.240 grows when this idea and this experience, this understanding of awe deepens. So here's 00:08:41.240 --> 00:08:47.520 what this gets interactive. We've been talking about this for six, eight months, 00:08:47.520 --> 00:08:55.360 something like that forever. Everybody take out your phones. I want you to take a 00:08:55.360 --> 00:09:03.960 selfie. I'm just kidding. It's not a test but I just want to check to see if I've 00:09:03.960 --> 00:09:08.760 been making sense over the past few months. Scan the QR code on the back of 00:09:08.760 --> 00:09:15.880 the seats. If you're in the front seat, just reach over. Scan the QR code. Let's 00:09:15.880 --> 00:09:29.360 see if this works. There should be a button there that says awe. Some questions. See 00:09:29.360 --> 00:09:43.760 what I did there? These dad jokes. While you're getting that pulled up, I took 00:09:43.760 --> 00:09:51.000 Jackson the other day to go get his eyes checked. The eye doctor asked him a question. 00:09:51.000 --> 00:09:59.880 He said, what is a pirate's favorite letter? See, you would think it's "R" but it's the 00:09:59.880 --> 00:10:09.560 "C" matey. I was like, that's amazing. He's like, dad's get it. You're going to use 00:10:09.560 --> 00:10:20.760 that one, aren't you? See, it be the "C" matey. You knew it already. All right, so everybody 00:10:20.760 --> 00:10:35.120 there? Now, start answering some questions. Huh? It's a quiz. There's a quote that I've 00:10:35.120 --> 00:10:42.000 said quite a bit. "Ah" is the counterweight to put in the word. Put in any word. You can 00:10:42.000 --> 00:10:49.440 come up with your own word. "Ah" is the counterweight. 00:10:49.440 --> 00:11:06.760 It's like the counter of, it's the, yeah. Like think of a, to balance something, you put 00:11:06.760 --> 00:11:20.340 a counterweight on, that like levels it, brings it so. "Ah" is the counterweight. Give you a 00:11:20.340 --> 00:11:48.760 lot of questions there. Yeah, see him. All right. No cheating. Who's the hunchcake? 00:11:48.760 --> 00:11:58.960 "Ah" is the counterweight. The next one was the "Ah" is the experience of blank and the 00:11:58.960 --> 00:12:23.720 need for blank. That one's multiple choice. I'll give you multiple choice on that one. 00:12:23.720 --> 00:12:30.580 All right. All right. Starting to see him now. Let's see. 00:12:30.580 --> 00:12:42.160 Is everybody done? All right. I'll give you a few more minutes. 00:12:53.720 --> 00:13:00.720 All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. 00:13:23.720 --> 00:13:49.720 All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. 00:13:49.720 --> 00:13:59.720 [ Silence ] 00:14:19.720 --> 00:14:38.720 [ Silence ] 00:14:38.720 --> 00:14:43.720 Alright. Let's see how you did. 00:14:43.720 --> 00:14:51.720 [ Silence ] 00:14:51.720 --> 00:14:57.720 Ah, is the counterweight two? 00:14:57.720 --> 00:14:59.720 Do we know? 00:14:59.720 --> 00:15:08.720 How do I see? I won't show you the correct answer yet. 00:15:08.720 --> 00:15:15.720 How do I see it? Show it. 00:15:15.720 --> 00:15:17.720 Switch to host mode. 00:15:17.720 --> 00:15:30.720 Alright. Is the counterweight two ego? Is the... 00:15:30.720 --> 00:15:33.720 Fear? Is a good one? 00:15:33.720 --> 00:15:38.720 Well, it's really whatever. 00:15:38.720 --> 00:15:42.720 It's whatever. Like, it is a counterweight two. 00:15:42.720 --> 00:15:48.720 The quote is ego, but fear was one. 00:15:48.720 --> 00:15:51.720 Alright. We'll go to the next one. 00:15:51.720 --> 00:15:55.720 Ah, is the experience of blank and the need for blank? 00:15:55.720 --> 00:16:00.720 Is it A, B, or C, or D? 00:16:00.720 --> 00:16:03.720 C? 00:16:03.720 --> 00:16:08.720 Is that the correct answer? 00:16:08.720 --> 00:16:11.720 B, vastness and accommodation. 00:16:11.720 --> 00:16:13.720 Ah, is the experience of vastness. 00:16:13.720 --> 00:16:18.720 So, we've explained this where, like, you experience something so big that it makes you feel small, but in a good way. 00:16:18.720 --> 00:16:22.720 And you need to accommodate for what you just experienced. 00:16:22.720 --> 00:16:26.720 Your mind can't comprehend it. You have to accommodate for what you just experienced. 00:16:26.720 --> 00:16:31.720 So, vastness and accommodation. Sorry. I know. This feels like school, right? 00:16:31.720 --> 00:16:34.720 Sorry, guys. You guys are... Look. Look. 00:16:34.720 --> 00:16:37.720 If I got to be back in school, you got to be back in school. 00:16:37.720 --> 00:16:43.720 Who knows the Hebrew word? 00:16:43.720 --> 00:16:46.720 You all do? Well, I know you do. What is it? 00:16:46.720 --> 00:16:53.720 Yerah. Yerah. 00:16:53.720 --> 00:16:56.720 Yerah. Okay. Next one. 00:16:56.720 --> 00:17:03.720 According to research, ah, most strongly increases self-importance... Oh, there you go. 00:17:03.720 --> 00:17:10.720 It's a material. Purpose. Purpose. It... You experience ah, it strongly increases experience. 00:17:10.720 --> 00:17:13.720 Purpose. Who got all of them right? 00:17:13.720 --> 00:17:18.720 Nobody. Man, I am terrible at this. Who got three right? 00:17:18.720 --> 00:17:25.720 Okay. All right. Two. One. 00:17:25.720 --> 00:17:29.720 Oh, there's one more. Sorry. Here, let's see. My fault. 00:17:29.720 --> 00:17:40.720 Last one. When I experience ah, I become more... 00:17:40.720 --> 00:17:45.720 Oh, there's the button I was looking for. 00:17:45.720 --> 00:17:57.720 When I experience ah, I become more... You got grateful, peaceful, aware, at peace, calm, empathetic... 00:17:57.720 --> 00:18:02.720 Quiet, positive. I like these. This is good. 00:18:02.720 --> 00:18:06.720 Oh, okay. We got another one. People add in stuff. 00:18:06.720 --> 00:18:11.720 Loving and lightened. Awesome, duh. Yes. 00:18:11.720 --> 00:18:16.720 Connected to the love of God. Peace-filled and good perspective. 00:18:16.720 --> 00:18:20.720 I see what you did there. Others focused, connected, amazed, aware and peaceful. 00:18:20.720 --> 00:18:27.720 Do you see psychological studies show that this is the truth. This is what happens. 00:18:27.720 --> 00:18:39.720 You become these things. So, again, we go back to looking at how should we be doing this thing as a faith community who follows Jesus? 00:18:39.720 --> 00:18:44.720 How do we get to wisdom? Is it through fear? 00:18:44.720 --> 00:18:49.720 Or is it through the perspective of yerah that is ah? 00:18:49.720 --> 00:18:54.720 Which takes us into a place where we are more loving, more kind, more caring, more generous. 00:18:54.720 --> 00:19:01.720 It almost sounds like it makes us more like Jesus. So... 00:19:01.720 --> 00:19:07.720 Here's what we're going to do now. 00:19:07.720 --> 00:19:19.720 I can see my screen. Uh-oh. We can stop sharing my screen. 00:19:19.720 --> 00:19:27.720 How many people put Happy National Cat Day down for the experience? Oh, alright. 00:19:27.720 --> 00:19:36.720 Alright. So, phone's down for now. Close your eyes. If you feel comfortable. 00:19:36.720 --> 00:19:45.720 Think of a recent moment where you were less reactive than you used to be. 00:19:45.720 --> 00:19:54.720 Maybe that's not yours. Were you a more patient? Were you a more grounded? 00:19:54.720 --> 00:20:12.720 Maybe more compassionate? And the question I have for you was, was that perfection, which in teaching of fear, the goal was perfection. 00:20:12.720 --> 00:20:25.720 But was that perfection, were you becoming perfect? Or was that what we like to call fruit? You experienced something and fruit is produced through you. 00:20:25.720 --> 00:20:32.720 Were you more patient? More grounded? More compassionate? Less reactive than you used to be. 00:20:32.720 --> 00:20:37.720 Alright, now open your eyes. Think about that. 00:20:37.720 --> 00:20:44.720 A group activity, find two or three people around you, and finish this sentence. 00:20:44.720 --> 00:20:48.720 And you're going to discuss it for a couple of minutes. Alright, we're diving into this thing a little bit. 00:20:48.720 --> 00:21:01.720 Lately, ah, has helped me blank. Lately, ah, has helped me, what? Two or three people come and talk, speak. 00:21:01.720 --> 00:21:08.720 Then you'll get some music. 00:21:31.720 --> 00:21:41.720 Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. 00:21:41.720 --> 00:22:09.720 Lately, ah, ah, ah, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. 00:22:09.720 --> 00:22:19.720 Lately, ah, ah, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. 00:22:19.720 --> 00:22:48.720 Lately, ah, ah, ah, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. 00:22:48.720 --> 00:23:03.720 Lately, ah, ah, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. 00:23:03.720 --> 00:23:32.720 Lately, ah, ah, ah, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. 00:23:32.720 --> 00:23:42.720 Lately, ah, ah, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. 00:23:42.720 --> 00:23:52.720 [BLANK_AUDIO] 00:24:12.720 --> 00:24:22.720 [BLANK_AUDIO] 00:24:37.360 --> 00:24:41.700 All right, all right, let's bring it back, bring back. 00:24:43.640 --> 00:24:47.600 Just put a pen in it, you can talk about it in a couple minutes when I'm done. 00:24:47.600 --> 00:24:51.840 [LAUGH] 00:24:51.840 --> 00:24:57.400 Now, a couple more things, if you set up the survey, 00:24:57.400 --> 00:25:00.840 pull your phone back out and answer the assessment. 00:25:03.840 --> 00:25:07.840 Since we began exploring, I feel less driven by fear and more shaped by peace. 00:25:07.840 --> 00:25:12.000 Answer this honestly, yes or no, has it really just been kind of an abstract idea? 00:25:12.720 --> 00:25:18.440 Do you feel like it has made any impact in life and relationships? 00:25:18.440 --> 00:25:28.440 [BLANK_AUDIO] 00:25:34.680 --> 00:25:35.680 All right. 00:25:35.680 --> 00:25:42.680 [BLANK_AUDIO] 00:25:42.720 --> 00:25:54.720 [BLANK_AUDIO] 00:25:54.720 --> 00:25:55.800 You wish what? 00:25:55.800 --> 00:25:59.160 [BLANK_AUDIO] 00:25:59.160 --> 00:26:05.640 I know, we should, proper research would have started with a pre, yeah. 00:26:05.640 --> 00:26:08.600 Look, I hadn't done my research in stats class yet, so. 00:26:08.600 --> 00:26:11.640 [BLANK_AUDIO] 00:26:11.640 --> 00:26:14.760 Somebody else has, you could have helped me, you could have told me. 00:26:14.760 --> 00:26:19.040 [LAUGH] 00:26:19.040 --> 00:26:24.560 We're gonna have to do one, we'll do a hypothesis, this will be our sample group. 00:26:24.560 --> 00:26:25.560 Yeah, okay. 00:26:25.560 --> 00:26:28.080 [BLANK_AUDIO] 00:26:28.080 --> 00:26:34.960 So, this is good, I like this. 00:26:34.960 --> 00:26:41.600 Since we began exploring awe, I feel less driven by fear and more shaped by peace. 00:26:41.600 --> 00:26:49.520 We are trending in a good direction, which is good. 00:26:49.520 --> 00:26:50.920 That's the hope, right? 00:26:50.920 --> 00:26:54.000 That's the fruit of this. 00:26:54.000 --> 00:26:56.560 Should be that you are experiencing peace in your life. 00:26:56.560 --> 00:27:01.560 That you are experiencing a transformation and relationship and 00:27:01.560 --> 00:27:10.160 how you see people, there's a two percent over there. 00:27:10.160 --> 00:27:13.600 That fear, Robert's still working on it, but. 00:27:13.600 --> 00:27:16.400 You knew, you knew what I was gonna say. 00:27:16.400 --> 00:27:20.160 [LAUGH] 00:27:20.160 --> 00:27:22.160 >> [INAUDIBLE] 00:27:22.160 --> 00:27:25.720 >> [LAUGH] 00:27:25.720 --> 00:27:31.280 >> We have said, well, it's almost four years now, Robert is on Robert's road to 00:27:31.280 --> 00:27:34.080 righteousness and we're, it's a long journey. 00:27:34.080 --> 00:27:38.080 [LAUGH] 00:27:38.080 --> 00:27:39.600 There's also a Q&A section on there. 00:27:39.600 --> 00:27:41.960 If you wanna ask a question, you can do that. 00:27:41.960 --> 00:27:43.160 We're not gonna go into them right now, but 00:27:43.160 --> 00:27:47.760 it'll be something that we can talk about as we go through all of this. 00:27:47.760 --> 00:27:50.280 But, it's one of those things where. 00:27:50.280 --> 00:28:01.480 [BLANK_AUDIO] 00:28:01.480 --> 00:28:06.760 This was never just this exciting thing about like, 00:28:06.760 --> 00:28:11.680 psychologically, I learned this, it was for me this light bulb moment of, 00:28:11.680 --> 00:28:19.480 hey, this actually works in the way that I believe Jesus did life. 00:28:19.480 --> 00:28:24.080 Where, when we experience these, these things, 00:28:24.080 --> 00:28:29.320 these moments of all, it actually brings us into a place where we are more 00:28:29.320 --> 00:28:36.320 connected and more willing to understand what it looks like to not just be focused 00:28:36.320 --> 00:28:43.680 on me, if awe is the counterweight to ego, then it begins to suppress ego. 00:28:43.680 --> 00:28:49.120 Where I am now more connected, more focused on others. 00:28:49.120 --> 00:28:52.440 Which seems to be what the gospel calls us to. 00:28:57.440 --> 00:29:00.720 I'll look at questions real quick, but, man, there's a lot now. 00:29:02.320 --> 00:29:05.720 How do we explain to someone, how do we explain awe to someone who's always 00:29:05.720 --> 00:29:08.040 living and seeing things through fear? 00:29:08.040 --> 00:29:11.360 I think there's, there's a couple different things that we've talked about 00:29:11.360 --> 00:29:18.080 throughout this series, that there's the big moments. 00:29:18.080 --> 00:29:23.080 The moments that you stand and you overlook the Grand Canyon and 00:29:23.080 --> 00:29:30.720 you are just mind blown, that this big hole exists, right? 00:29:30.720 --> 00:29:35.000 Just the beauty of it, or you drive through Northern California or 00:29:35.000 --> 00:29:42.440 Oregon into the trees and you see these matte, like just mind blowing. 00:29:42.440 --> 00:29:46.040 And it makes you realize that you're on this, there's some, 00:29:46.040 --> 00:29:49.560 this is much bigger than just me, there's something happening here. 00:29:51.000 --> 00:29:57.160 And then there's the moments of small moments where you meet someone. 00:29:57.160 --> 00:30:03.680 How many times do we meet someone, we see them, we know exactly who they are. 00:30:06.000 --> 00:30:13.000 And then they do something and you're like, oh, that is not what I expected from you. 00:30:13.000 --> 00:30:20.000 Something kind, something in you, I have to accommodate what I just experienced. 00:30:24.000 --> 00:30:30.000 A few years back, 2017, right around the time we started the arsenal, 00:30:30.000 --> 00:30:35.000 I was at a coffee shop and I'd gone in. 00:30:35.000 --> 00:30:40.000 At that point, I had a beard that looked like Duncan's. 00:30:40.000 --> 00:30:41.000 Some of you guys remember that. 00:30:41.000 --> 00:30:50.000 Beard looked like, you know, big, bushy beard, army veteran. 00:30:50.000 --> 00:30:54.000 And I walked into this coffee shop and got a coffee and there was a couple 00:30:54.000 --> 00:30:58.000 of pastors and some of their friends sitting and have some coffee. 00:30:58.000 --> 00:31:00.000 And they were having a pretty heated conversation. 00:31:00.000 --> 00:31:04.000 Not even heated, they were all very agreeable to each other. 00:31:04.000 --> 00:31:08.000 It was kind of, it was, it was getting loud. 00:31:08.000 --> 00:31:14.000 What they were talking about was at that point, Colin Kaepernick in the NFL 00:31:14.000 --> 00:31:25.000 had taken a knee during the National Anthem as a protest to violence 00:31:25.000 --> 00:31:30.000 and inequality for African Americans in the US. 00:31:30.000 --> 00:31:36.000 And this pastor looks at me and he goes, Chad, you're going to agree with us. 00:31:36.000 --> 00:31:38.000 Come here, you're going to have a good perspective. 00:31:38.000 --> 00:31:40.000 You're a veteran. 00:31:40.000 --> 00:31:44.000 And I looked at him and I was like, because I heard the conversation. 00:31:44.000 --> 00:31:48.000 And I was like, I don't think I'm going to agree with what you think I am. 00:31:48.000 --> 00:31:50.000 And he was like, really? 00:31:50.000 --> 00:31:51.000 You're a veteran. 00:31:51.000 --> 00:31:53.000 Like, you're an offended. 00:31:53.000 --> 00:32:02.000 And I looked at him and I said, man, I think this is what freedom looks like. 00:32:02.000 --> 00:32:08.000 And so for me, I feel like I'm not offended. 00:32:08.000 --> 00:32:16.000 I think the moment there is to step back and say, why does he feel like he needs to do this? 00:32:16.000 --> 00:32:24.000 He's offended because there's some thing that has been told to us that is super important, 00:32:24.000 --> 00:32:32.000 but there's a human being trying to say something about harm. 00:32:32.000 --> 00:32:37.000 And so the question there is not, well, how do we fix this? 00:32:37.000 --> 00:32:38.000 He's offending me. 00:32:38.000 --> 00:32:43.000 No, it's, well, why does he feel like he needs to do this? 00:32:43.000 --> 00:32:47.000 That's that moment of stepping back. 00:32:47.000 --> 00:32:51.000 I don't know the experience of Colin Kaepernick. 00:32:51.000 --> 00:32:57.000 I don't know the experience of being a black person in our country. 00:32:57.000 --> 00:33:06.000 So I have to step back and accommodate and listen and be curious. 00:33:06.000 --> 00:33:09.000 And that's what all does. 00:33:09.000 --> 00:33:12.000 It's the step back. 00:33:12.000 --> 00:33:15.000 It's the zoom out. 00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:18.000 You may not, you may not still agree. 00:33:18.000 --> 00:33:22.000 But at least you zoomed out. 00:33:22.000 --> 00:33:26.000 And now you know that there are people that have a different opinion about things than 00:33:26.000 --> 00:33:33.000 you and they're not terrible human beings. 00:33:33.000 --> 00:33:41.000 And I think we need that right now more than anything to zoom out, step back. 00:33:41.000 --> 00:33:50.000 A lot of times, ways that we treat each other as human beings, 00:33:50.000 --> 00:33:56.000 especially negative ways that we treat each other, is all driven out of some form of fear. 00:33:56.000 --> 00:34:03.000 So I have to step back and accommodate and say, well, what are they afraid of? 00:34:03.000 --> 00:34:07.000 And then begin to ask and wonder. 00:34:07.000 --> 00:34:10.000 Uncertainty is a good place to live. 00:34:10.000 --> 00:34:16.000 Wonder is the outcome of experiencing awe. 00:34:16.000 --> 00:34:18.000 You live in this place of wonder. 00:34:18.000 --> 00:34:28.000 I think this drives us into a moment where we are more loving, more kind, more caring, less offended. 00:34:28.000 --> 00:34:37.000 It makes me in Galatians 3, I think it's the passion translation. 00:34:37.000 --> 00:34:46.000 Paul's talking about what it looks like to experience being a person who's living in Christ. 00:34:46.000 --> 00:34:48.000 What does a new creation look like? 00:34:48.000 --> 00:34:56.000 And one of the things he says in there is to be unoffendable in your patience with others. 00:34:56.000 --> 00:35:00.000 And this is the only way we can do that. 00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:10.000 We are connected. If someone sings something in Spanish, just step back. 00:35:10.000 --> 00:35:16.000 If you don't understand, it's going to be okay. 00:35:16.000 --> 00:35:21.000 Just enjoy it. 00:35:21.000 --> 00:35:26.000 Right? 00:35:26.000 --> 00:35:29.000 I'm going to look at these questions and I'll get back to them. 00:35:29.000 --> 00:35:35.000 I'm just going to read a passage and we're done. 00:35:35.000 --> 00:35:42.000 If fear is the root of our life, then the fruit will look like fear. 00:35:42.000 --> 00:35:48.000 And if awe is the root, then I believe the fruit will look like Jesus. 00:35:48.000 --> 00:35:57.000 And I love how the passion translation translates Galatians 5 and the list of the fruit of the spirit. 00:35:57.000 --> 00:36:02.000 So if we live in this place, we're rooted in this experience of awe, we're looking for it. 00:36:02.000 --> 00:36:11.000 We are trying to find new things to give us wonder. 00:36:11.000 --> 00:36:14.000 Our relationships begin to look like this. 00:36:14.000 --> 00:36:25.000 But the fruit produced by the Holy Spirit within you is divine love in all its varied expressions. 00:36:25.000 --> 00:36:36.000 It's the way that overflows, the peace that subdues, patience that endures, kindness in action. 00:36:36.000 --> 00:36:47.000 A life full of virtue, faith that prevails, gentleness of heart, and strength of spirit. 00:36:47.000 --> 00:36:54.000 Because I'm going to say never set the law above these qualities for they are meant to be limitless. 00:36:54.000 --> 00:37:02.000 Keep in mind that we who belong to Jesus, the anointed one, have already experienced crucifixion. 00:37:02.000 --> 00:37:07.000 Paul says that we've died in Christ. 00:37:07.000 --> 00:37:11.000 It's no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me. 00:37:11.000 --> 00:37:18.000 He was on to say for everything connected with our self-life was put to death on the cross and crucified with Messiah. 00:37:18.000 --> 00:37:25.000 We must live in the Holy Spirit and follow after Him, so may we never be arrogant. 00:37:25.000 --> 00:37:31.000 Or look down on another for each of us is an original. 00:37:31.000 --> 00:37:37.000 We must forsake all jealousy that diminishes the value of others. 00:37:37.000 --> 00:37:48.000 I believe this is the fruit of always step back. We find these moments of all. 00:37:48.000 --> 00:37:52.000 One of the best ways to experience it is to see other people. 00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:59.000 It's called through moral kindness when you see someone else be morally kind to another person. 00:37:59.000 --> 00:38:05.000 You experience this, oh, that's the moment of all. 00:38:05.000 --> 00:38:08.000 That's the moment of all. It becomes contagious. 00:38:08.000 --> 00:38:12.000 That's that moment where there's tears into your eyes. You're not sad. 00:38:12.000 --> 00:38:16.000 What was that? That's all. 00:38:16.000 --> 00:38:21.000 Because it shows you what humanity can be when we step back. 00:38:21.000 --> 00:38:30.000 We see people as originals and as people to be loved and as valuable. 00:38:30.000 --> 00:38:35.000 And we need that more than anything right now. 00:38:35.000 --> 00:38:43.000 Imagine if the church was driven by experiences of all and not fear. 00:38:43.000 --> 00:38:50.000 Then I think transformation happens in our world, in our country, but in our community. 00:38:50.000 --> 00:38:54.000 We're going to start here. 00:38:54.000 --> 00:38:58.000 Let's go experience this. Let's go love people well. 00:38:58.000 --> 00:39:01.000 Find those moments of all. 00:39:01.000 --> 00:39:04.000 So the fruit can produce through you. 00:39:04.000 --> 00:39:11.000 And you'll see love in all its great virtues, varying forms, expressions. 00:39:11.000 --> 00:39:15.000 Love you guys. Let's go love well. We'll see you next week. 00:39:15.000 --> 00:39:15.000 That's not true.