WEBVTT 00:00:19.000 --> 00:00:19.000 [silence] 00:00:19.000 --> 00:00:23.000 How many people watched "The Artemis 2"? 00:00:23.000 --> 00:00:27.000 You see any videos of it? 00:00:27.000 --> 00:00:31.000 Pink? 00:00:31.000 --> 00:00:35.000 There's that message 00:00:35.000 --> 00:00:39.000 from astronaut Victor Glover 00:00:39.000 --> 00:00:43.000 was 00:00:43.000 --> 00:00:47.000 just incredible. 00:00:47.000 --> 00:00:51.000 There's an Easter message that was taught on Easter, honestly. 00:00:51.000 --> 00:00:55.000 There's this thing 00:00:55.000 --> 00:00:59.000 that happens, and I haven't been into 00:00:59.000 --> 00:01:03.000 space stuff my whole life, right? We took the kids to NASA 00:01:03.000 --> 00:01:07.000 a while back, and it was cool. There's definitely been times where 00:01:07.000 --> 00:01:11.000 Marty and I've been sitting and we're like, "Did they really go to the moon?" 00:01:11.000 --> 00:01:15.000 That's just because 00:01:15.000 --> 00:01:19.000 there's a lot of things we could fix 00:01:19.000 --> 00:01:23.000 if we're that good at technology. 00:01:23.000 --> 00:01:27.000 But there's just 00:01:27.000 --> 00:01:31.000 crazy thing about this picture. 00:01:31.000 --> 00:01:35.000 The Artemis 2, if you don't know, NASA just sent a 00:01:35.000 --> 00:01:39.000 crew, I think it was 250,000 miles away from Earth. 00:01:39.000 --> 00:01:43.000 It's the furthest that anyone's ever gone into space. This is on the other side 00:01:43.000 --> 00:01:47.000 of the moon taking a picture of Earth, and you can see how small 00:01:47.000 --> 00:01:51.000 Earth looks. 00:01:51.000 --> 00:01:55.000 And it's just 00:01:55.000 --> 00:01:59.000 it's pretty incredible to look at. I think here 00:01:59.000 --> 00:02:03.000 Victor Glover talked from this kind of vantage point where he's 00:02:03.000 --> 00:02:07.000 seeing this on Easter of all days. 00:02:07.000 --> 00:02:11.000 And it reminds us that we're 00:02:11.000 --> 00:02:15.000 he tries to remind us that we are one. 00:02:15.000 --> 00:02:19.000 That we need each other. 00:02:19.000 --> 00:02:23.000 That love of neighbor 00:02:23.000 --> 00:02:27.000 is not optional. It's 00:02:27.000 --> 00:02:31.000 like the way that this world is supposed to work. 00:02:31.000 --> 00:02:35.000 It's the only way that we're going to make it through this together. 00:02:35.000 --> 00:02:39.000 And I think he lays this out beautifully. 00:02:39.000 --> 00:02:43.000 I'm going to 00:02:43.000 --> 00:02:47.000 maybe get that 00:02:47.000 --> 00:02:51.000 gut feeling like I do when I see it, but 00:02:51.000 --> 00:02:55.000 does something to me. Because when you zoom out 00:02:55.000 --> 00:02:59.000 like our astronauts got the opportunity to do, 00:02:59.000 --> 00:03:03.000 a lot of things that feel huge down here start 00:03:03.000 --> 00:03:07.000 looking to look different. 00:03:07.000 --> 00:03:11.000 Borders start looking smaller. 00:03:11.000 --> 00:03:15.000 Categories start looking smaller. Arguments start looking smaller. 00:03:15.000 --> 00:03:19.000 Tribes start looking smaller. And what starts looking bigger 00:03:19.000 --> 00:03:23.000 is the fact that we're all here together. 00:03:23.000 --> 00:03:27.000 All of us. 00:03:27.000 --> 00:03:31.000 Not just us in this like all of humanity is here together. 00:03:31.000 --> 00:03:35.000 Floating on this little blue ball in the sky. 00:03:35.000 --> 00:03:39.000 One human family, one fragile 00:03:39.000 --> 00:03:43.000 home, and one shared life. 00:03:43.000 --> 00:03:47.000 Over the last 00:03:47.000 --> 00:03:51.000 several years, psychologists and 00:03:51.000 --> 00:03:55.000 astronauts have got together and they've talked about this thing that 00:03:55.000 --> 00:03:59.000 Victor Glover experienced. What he was sharing with 00:03:59.000 --> 00:04:03.000 us from Artemis. 00:04:03.000 --> 00:04:07.000 They call it the overview effect. 00:04:07.000 --> 00:04:11.000 It's this shift that happens when 00:04:11.000 --> 00:04:15.000 astronauts see Earth from space and suddenly they experience this 00:04:15.000 --> 00:04:19.000 overwhelming sense of like beauty and fragility and 00:04:19.000 --> 00:04:23.000 unity and connectedness. 00:04:23.000 --> 00:04:27.000 It's not just that the Earth looks beautiful. 00:04:27.000 --> 00:04:31.000 The vantage point that they are at, they realize how 00:04:31.000 --> 00:04:35.000 artificial so many of our divisions are. 00:04:35.000 --> 00:04:39.000 And they realize how connected we are. 00:04:39.000 --> 00:04:43.000 They realize how much of what we fight over depends on 00:04:43.000 --> 00:04:47.000 being too close to the ground to actually see clearly. 00:04:47.000 --> 00:04:51.000 And 00:04:51.000 --> 00:04:55.000 it's part of why I wanted to kind of begin there today. 00:04:55.000 --> 00:04:59.000 Because last week at Easter we started 00:04:59.000 --> 00:05:03.000 opening up some big things and I 00:05:03.000 --> 00:05:07.000 know that some of the things I said landed differently for different people 00:05:07.000 --> 00:05:11.000 because I got your messages. 00:05:11.000 --> 00:05:15.000 For some of you maybe it felt freeing, for some of you maybe 00:05:15.000 --> 00:05:19.000 it felt new. And for some of you maybe 00:05:19.000 --> 00:05:23.000 it stirred up some questions and honestly that's good because at the arsenal we believe 00:05:23.000 --> 00:05:27.000 that growth happens in the questions and so we want to ask those questions. 00:05:27.000 --> 00:05:31.000 Bless you. 00:05:31.000 --> 00:05:35.000 He sneezed like me. 00:05:35.000 --> 00:05:39.000 But 00:05:39.000 --> 00:05:43.000 the thing is I don't want to just throw out big ideas 00:05:43.000 --> 00:05:47.000 and just keep moving like none of that matters. 00:05:47.000 --> 00:05:51.000 Some things I think need room that one Sunday 00:05:51.000 --> 00:05:55.000 doesn't give us the opportunity to really like talk about 00:05:55.000 --> 00:05:59.000 even though I talked for like almost an hour last week which I'm not supposed to do on Easter. 00:05:59.000 --> 00:06:03.000 They tell you don't do that. 00:06:03.000 --> 00:06:07.000 But I didn't have enough time to expand on a lot of these thoughts. So over the next like 00:06:07.000 --> 00:06:11.000 eight weeks or so we're going to slow down together. And 00:06:11.000 --> 00:06:15.000 I want to be honest and look through some of the things 00:06:15.000 --> 00:06:19.000 that we're talking about and some of the things that I brought up 00:06:19.000 --> 00:06:23.000 some of these things are they're not brand new to me but 00:06:23.000 --> 00:06:27.000 they're newer in like my larger arc of my 00:06:27.000 --> 00:06:31.000 faith journey. 00:06:31.000 --> 00:06:35.000 And so we're going to wrestle with some things together. 00:06:35.000 --> 00:06:39.000 There are things that I've been wrestling with like 00:06:39.000 --> 00:06:43.000 rethinking, unlearning, revisiting, sitting with, 00:06:43.000 --> 00:06:47.000 studying. So first of all I think I've told you guys this before 00:06:47.000 --> 00:06:51.000 if you're new here you'll hear it now. Like 00:06:51.000 --> 00:06:55.000 this is not me up here saying I solved 00:06:55.000 --> 00:06:59.000 it all. I don't ever want to be the answer guy 00:06:59.000 --> 00:07:03.000 that's not my job I think is a pastor. 00:07:03.000 --> 00:07:07.000 I'm not here to give the answer. I can tell you where I'm 00:07:07.000 --> 00:07:11.000 where I'm working through. I can invite you in to the conversation. I want to stir up questions. 00:07:11.000 --> 00:07:15.000 I want growth to happen in you. 00:07:15.000 --> 00:07:19.000 And so I mean if you've got like simple questions 00:07:19.000 --> 00:07:23.000 like math stuff I might be able to help you. 00:07:23.000 --> 00:07:27.000 But I want us to learn to ask better questions 00:07:27.000 --> 00:07:31.000 together. That's the hope of this. And the question over this whole series 00:07:31.000 --> 00:07:35.000 is who told you that? 00:07:35.000 --> 00:07:39.000 Who told you that? And the subtitle here says 00:07:39.000 --> 00:07:43.000 "How Fear, Shame and Bad Religion Distort the Way We See God." 00:07:43.000 --> 00:07:47.000 Who told you that? 00:07:47.000 --> 00:07:51.000 Because sometimes the deeper question I don't think is 00:07:51.000 --> 00:07:55.000 what do I believe? Sometimes it's 00:07:55.000 --> 00:07:59.000 where did that come from? Who taught me that? 00:07:59.000 --> 00:08:03.000 Who told me what God is like? 00:08:03.000 --> 00:08:07.000 Who told me that what people are like? 00:08:07.000 --> 00:08:11.000 Who told me who belongs and who doesn't? Who told me who is my enemy? 00:08:11.000 --> 00:08:15.000 Who's supposed to be my friend? Because one of the things 00:08:15.000 --> 00:08:19.000 that we've talked about for a long time and what the overview effect 00:08:19.000 --> 00:08:23.000 is, is this experience of that emotion 00:08:23.000 --> 00:08:27.000 awe. And what it does, it helps us 00:08:27.000 --> 00:08:31.000 expose how many of the lines we live by 00:08:31.000 --> 00:08:35.000 were handed to us before we ever really examined them. 00:08:35.000 --> 00:08:41.000 Dr. Keltner, the guy that I talk about all the time, 00:08:41.000 --> 00:08:45.000 psychologist who studies awe. He talks about how awe changes our perspective. 00:08:45.000 --> 00:08:49.000 It makes us feel small, but not in a bad way 00:08:49.000 --> 00:08:53.000 and in the best way possible. In a freeing way that 00:08:53.000 --> 00:08:57.000 it widens the frame. Think of an astronaut flying out 00:08:57.000 --> 00:09:01.000 into space and seeing how small Earth begins to get 00:09:01.000 --> 00:09:04.520 in their perspective and their vantage point. This is this experience of, 00:09:04.520 --> 00:09:08.520 expanding your view, zooming out. 00:09:08.520 --> 00:09:12.520 It reminds us that we're part of something bigger than our own fear, 00:09:12.520 --> 00:09:16.520 our own ego, our own tribe, 00:09:16.520 --> 00:09:20.520 our own little world. 00:09:20.520 --> 00:09:24.520 And I think, I think this is why the overview effect is such 00:09:24.520 --> 00:09:28.520 like a powerful image of this message because what astronauts are describing 00:09:28.520 --> 00:09:32.520 is not just beauty. Like if you listen to 00:09:32.520 --> 00:09:36.520 Victor and if you just put in the overview effect and 00:09:36.520 --> 00:09:40.520 astronauts in YouTube, NASA actually did this 00:09:40.520 --> 00:09:44.520 series where they interviewed astronauts. I was going to show it today, but it's like 8 minutes. 00:09:44.520 --> 00:09:48.520 I want to talk. I'm just kidding. 00:09:48.520 --> 00:09:52.520 I was going to play it, but I have another video later. 00:09:52.520 --> 00:09:56.520 But they all say the same 00:09:56.520 --> 00:10:00.520 thing. When they zoom out 00:10:00.520 --> 00:10:04.520 things just, the perspective just changes. We can't see 00:10:04.520 --> 00:10:08.520 all the separation that we're so used to. 00:10:08.520 --> 00:10:12.520 All we see is this 00:10:12.520 --> 00:10:16.520 ball. And when they describe it, it's 00:10:16.520 --> 00:10:20.520 pretty cool. When they talk about like, depending on where they're at 00:10:20.520 --> 00:10:24.520 what's on the moon or where at in space, they can see 00:10:24.520 --> 00:10:28.520 the atmosphere, the ring around her. It's like green or 00:10:28.520 --> 00:10:32.520 blue. And I think in the video later, 00:10:32.520 --> 00:10:36.520 Christina will talk about it. 00:10:36.520 --> 00:10:40.520 They say like we're all inside of this thing together 00:10:40.520 --> 00:10:44.520 floating on this little ball through earth together. And 00:10:44.520 --> 00:10:48.520 what happens on one side of the earth that maybe we can't see on the ground but from up there 00:10:48.520 --> 00:10:52.520 they can affect what happens on the other side. Like there's 00:10:52.520 --> 00:10:56.520 it all works together. 00:10:56.520 --> 00:11:00.520 And they're not just describing 00:11:00.520 --> 00:11:04.520 beauty when they talk about it. This beautiful earth, they're describing 00:11:04.520 --> 00:11:08.520 belonging. 00:11:08.520 --> 00:11:12.520 It's the shock of remembering that we are all connected. 00:11:12.520 --> 00:11:16.520 And this is what "aw" does. 00:11:16.520 --> 00:11:20.520 "aw" teaches us what fear 00:11:20.520 --> 00:11:24.520 made us forget. And that's 00:11:24.520 --> 00:11:28.520 where I want to start this series and this conversation. Not with like the 00:11:28.520 --> 00:11:32.520 rupture of trust. Last week when we talked about the 00:11:32.520 --> 00:11:36.520 garden, Genesis 3, we're going to talk about that today. 00:11:36.520 --> 00:11:40.520 The trust rupture in the relationship between humanity 00:11:40.520 --> 00:11:44.520 and God. We're not going to start this with 00:11:44.520 --> 00:11:48.520 that trust rupture or with guilt first but with kind of the bigger 00:11:48.520 --> 00:11:52.520 picture. We're going to zoom out a little bit. Because I think one of the tragedies of the human 00:11:52.520 --> 00:11:56.520 story is that we become so used to 00:11:56.520 --> 00:12:00.520 looking at life like from ground level. Most of us 00:12:00.520 --> 00:12:04.520 that's the only level we can be at unless you can fly. 00:12:04.520 --> 00:12:08.520 I haven't figured that out yet but 00:12:08.520 --> 00:12:12.520 I tried to fly a helicopter a while back. Paid money 00:12:12.520 --> 00:12:16.520 go out. Like Jayden and I went. My 21 year old. We were like 00:12:16.520 --> 00:12:20.520 let's go learn how to fly helicopters. That is not easy. I was like I don't know 00:12:20.520 --> 00:12:24.520 I thought I wanted to do this. I love flying in helicopters. 00:12:24.520 --> 00:12:28.520 There's so many things you have to do. We almost died. 00:12:28.520 --> 00:12:32.520 And we were like probably 20 feet from the ground. 00:12:32.520 --> 00:12:36.520 I don't know if it felt like it. The instructor was like 00:12:36.520 --> 00:12:40.520 all right you're going to hover so I'm going to let go and you can hover 00:12:40.520 --> 00:12:44.520 and so we were like I don't know how far we were. We weren't very far. 00:12:44.520 --> 00:12:48.520 But to hover you have to like use your feet and make sure nothing moves 00:12:48.520 --> 00:12:52.520 and like a slight movement and you're like 00:12:52.520 --> 00:12:56.520 you're gone and Jayden was better at it than me. 00:12:56.520 --> 00:13:00.520 I'm old. But we haven't figured out how to fly yet so the only 00:13:00.520 --> 00:13:04.520 vantage point we get is ground level. And that's kind of 00:13:04.520 --> 00:13:08.520 it's fear level. It's tribal level. It's 00:13:08.520 --> 00:13:12.520 we no longer even notice how 00:13:12.520 --> 00:13:16.520 small our vision has become. And then 00:13:16.520 --> 00:13:20.520 I started thinking about Paul. 00:13:20.520 --> 00:13:24.520 And what Paul talks about on this because Paul in his own version of overview 00:13:24.520 --> 00:13:28.520 gives us some explanations on what this looks like for us. 00:13:28.520 --> 00:13:32.520 Paul says that we're 00:13:32.520 --> 00:13:36.520 all in Adam. 00:13:36.520 --> 00:13:40.520 So we go back to the starting point and he starts with this idea that we are all that humanity 00:13:40.520 --> 00:13:44.520 is in Adam. In 1 Corinthians 15-21 00:13:44.520 --> 00:13:48.520 Paul says for since death came through a man 00:13:48.520 --> 00:13:52.520 the resurrection of the dead comes also through a man. 00:13:52.520 --> 00:13:56.520 22 says for as in Adam 00:13:56.520 --> 00:14:00.520 all die. Now Paul is talking about humanity here. 00:14:00.520 --> 00:14:04.520 He's comparing Adam and Christ. 00:14:04.520 --> 00:14:08.520 As in Adam all die. All of us are in 00:14:08.520 --> 00:14:12.520 one man, humanity. And when you 00:14:12.520 --> 00:14:16.520 go back to the beginning in Genesis 3 we talk about 00:14:16.520 --> 00:14:20.520 last week the idea that this is a moment 00:14:20.520 --> 00:14:24.520 where not just Adam and his relationship with God was 00:14:24.520 --> 00:14:28.520 broken but humanity's relationship with God is broken. 00:14:28.520 --> 00:14:32.520 Humanities trust and God was broken. 00:14:32.520 --> 00:14:36.520 And Paul says because when Jesus 00:14:36.520 --> 00:14:40.520 said if you do this you will surely die Paul says that in Adam 00:14:40.520 --> 00:14:44.520 all die. So in Christ all will be made alive. 00:14:44.520 --> 00:14:48.520 Now if we're all that it's humanity we are connected 00:14:48.520 --> 00:14:52.520 there's all of us together in one man 00:14:52.520 --> 00:14:56.520 in one man. 00:14:56.520 --> 00:15:00.520 I think this gathering of connectedness 00:15:00.520 --> 00:15:04.520 matters. Because Paul's not 00:15:04.520 --> 00:15:08.520 telling a story about isolated individuals that 00:15:08.520 --> 00:15:12.520 are just floating around out in 00:15:12.520 --> 00:15:16.520 earth or out in the atmosphere 00:15:16.520 --> 00:15:20.520 or that are just spiritually disconnected 00:15:20.520 --> 00:15:24.520 from God and from each other. But he's telling a story about 00:15:24.520 --> 00:15:28.520 connectedness, about solidarity, about a shared humanity, 00:15:28.520 --> 00:15:32.520 a shared wound that happened. And then a shared rescue that happened. 00:15:32.520 --> 00:15:36.520 We were all in Adam. 00:15:36.520 --> 00:15:40.520 We were all caught up in this trust rupture in the relationship with 00:15:40.520 --> 00:15:44.520 God. And in Christ Paul says 00:15:44.520 --> 00:15:48.520 grace reaches all the way into 00:15:48.520 --> 00:15:52.520 the human family. 00:15:52.520 --> 00:15:56.520 So even there, both sides 00:15:56.520 --> 00:16:00.520 of the story it's not just personal. 00:16:00.520 --> 00:16:04.520 We've turned this thing into just our personal relationship with 00:16:04.520 --> 00:16:08.520 God. Right? But if you really, if you zoom 00:16:08.520 --> 00:16:12.520 out, if you pull this perspective back, if you step back and 00:16:12.520 --> 00:16:16.520 you look at the story of all of this, it is not just this 00:16:16.520 --> 00:16:20.520 personal relationship. It's communal. 00:16:20.520 --> 00:16:24.520 It's shared. It's connected. I think 00:16:24.520 --> 00:16:28.520 one of the deepest things that we have to recover 00:16:28.520 --> 00:16:32.520 is that when humanity lost sight of our union with God 00:16:32.520 --> 00:16:36.520 we also lost sight of our union with each other. 00:16:36.520 --> 00:16:40.520 And that's why this moment in the garden 00:16:40.520 --> 00:16:44.520 matters so much. It's why this thing that we call the fall 00:16:44.520 --> 00:16:48.520 of man matters so much. 00:16:48.520 --> 00:16:52.520 Because the fall is not just a story about one bad act. 00:16:52.520 --> 00:16:56.520 It's a story about what happens when human 00:16:56.520 --> 00:17:00.520 vision narrows. 00:17:00.520 --> 00:17:04.520 It's what happens when fear replaces trust. It's what happens 00:17:04.520 --> 00:17:08.520 when shame replaces openness, when accusation replaces 00:17:08.520 --> 00:17:12.520 communion, when separation becomes the story that we live inside of. 00:17:12.520 --> 00:17:16.520 And when you go back to Genesis 3 00:17:16.520 --> 00:17:20.520 it's exactly what begins to happen. This is the 00:17:20.520 --> 00:17:24.520 starting point for us. The serpent enters the story 00:17:24.520 --> 00:17:28.520 and doesn't begin by telling 00:17:28.520 --> 00:17:32.520 you to just do some action. 00:17:32.520 --> 00:17:36.520 Just behave. Just take the fruit. 00:17:36.520 --> 00:17:40.520 He begins with distorting God. 00:17:40.520 --> 00:17:44.520 The serpent says, the serpent was more crafty 00:17:44.520 --> 00:17:48.520 than any of the wild animals. The Lord God 00:17:48.520 --> 00:17:52.520 that the Lord God had made. I always cut there. I don't know what. 00:17:52.520 --> 00:17:56.520 Every time I read this I put a comma. I'm like, there's no comma. 00:17:56.520 --> 00:18:00.520 Anyway, he said to the woman, 00:18:00.520 --> 00:18:04.520 "Did God really say 00:18:04.520 --> 00:18:08.520 you must not eat from any tree in the garden?" The woman said to the serpent 00:18:08.520 --> 00:18:12.520 we may eat fruit from the trees in the garden but 00:18:12.520 --> 00:18:16.520 God did say you must not eat fruit from the tree 00:18:16.520 --> 00:18:20.520 that's in the middle of the garden and you must not touch it or you will die. 00:18:20.520 --> 00:18:24.520 A serpent? You'll not 00:18:24.520 --> 00:18:28.520 certainly die. What does that statement say? 00:18:28.520 --> 00:18:32.520 Now God's a liar. 00:18:32.520 --> 00:18:36.520 You're not going to die. God's lying to you. 00:18:36.520 --> 00:18:40.520 The serpent goes on to say to the woman, "For God knows 00:18:40.520 --> 00:18:44.520 that when you eat from it your eyes 00:18:44.520 --> 00:18:48.520 will be opened and you will be like God knowing good 00:18:48.520 --> 00:18:52.520 and evil." God knows 00:18:52.520 --> 00:18:56.520 what's going to happen. God lies to you. It says you're going to die because 00:18:56.520 --> 00:19:00.520 God knows what's going to happen. And obviously if God knows what's going to happen then he doesn't 00:19:00.520 --> 00:19:04.520 want you to experience that. He's keeping something from you. 00:19:04.520 --> 00:19:08.520 Did God really say God knows 00:19:08.520 --> 00:19:12.520 what's going to happen? In other words, can you really trust this God? 00:19:12.520 --> 00:19:16.520 Is God really like for you? 00:19:16.520 --> 00:19:20.520 Is God holding on 00:19:20.520 --> 00:19:24.520 to you? Is God holding out on you? 00:19:24.520 --> 00:19:28.520 Is God safe? Is God good? 00:19:28.520 --> 00:19:32.520 And that's the first 00:19:32.520 --> 00:19:36.520 fracture between humanity and a relationship with God. 00:19:36.520 --> 00:19:40.520 Can you trust God? 00:19:40.520 --> 00:19:44.520 Not the bite of the apple. 00:19:44.520 --> 00:19:48.520 It's the lie. 00:19:48.520 --> 00:19:52.520 When humanity began to believe 00:19:52.520 --> 00:19:56.520 the serpent changes the story. And once this false 00:19:56.520 --> 00:20:00.520 story about God enters the relationship everything else begins to unravel. 00:20:00.520 --> 00:20:04.520 That's right. I said before 00:20:04.520 --> 00:20:08.520 I'll say it again that the lie came first then 00:20:08.520 --> 00:20:12.520 the biting of the fruit. The lie came first then the 00:20:12.520 --> 00:20:16.520 disobedient act. But the believing of the lie is what led to 00:20:16.520 --> 00:20:20.520 anything else. 00:20:20.520 --> 00:20:24.520 Richard worse says it this way. The fall is not so much about doing wrong 00:20:24.520 --> 00:20:28.520 as it is about seeing wrongly. 00:20:28.520 --> 00:20:32.520 I think this helps 00:20:32.520 --> 00:20:36.520 clear up some lines in Genesis 3. 00:20:36.520 --> 00:20:40.520 This is not about an act of doing 00:20:40.520 --> 00:20:44.520 wrong. It is about what do you believe and what are you seeing? 00:20:44.520 --> 00:20:48.520 This was the shift 00:20:48.520 --> 00:20:52.520 in the relationship. It's not 00:20:52.520 --> 00:20:56.520 denying the disobedience that happened because that happened. 00:20:56.520 --> 00:21:00.520 But something real happens before that. 00:21:00.520 --> 00:21:04.520 Trust is ruptured. Consequences are real 00:21:04.520 --> 00:21:08.520 and then the exile is real where God says you can no longer 00:21:08.520 --> 00:21:12.520 stay here. But Roar helps us see that underneath the 00:21:12.520 --> 00:21:16.520 act is a shift in perception. 00:21:16.520 --> 00:21:20.520 It's a false way of seeing. And once that 00:21:20.520 --> 00:21:24.520 lie is believed they don't just see God differently. 00:21:24.520 --> 00:21:28.520 They see themselves differently too. 00:21:32.520 --> 00:21:36.520 That's what Genesis says that they were naked and unashamed in Genesis 00:21:36.520 --> 00:21:40.520 225. They were naked and they had no shame. 00:21:40.520 --> 00:21:44.520 They were open, relationally exposed 00:21:44.520 --> 00:21:48.520 and they had no shame. 00:21:48.520 --> 00:21:52.520 They didn't know what that meant. Because shame is to think 00:21:52.520 --> 00:21:56.520 that you are bad. There's something wrong 00:21:56.520 --> 00:22:00.520 with you. They didn't have that. 00:22:00.520 --> 00:22:04.520 The relationship trust was all there. 00:22:04.520 --> 00:22:08.520 And then suddenly in chapter 3 they're covering 00:22:08.520 --> 00:22:12.520 themselves. They're hiding themselves. They're afraid. 00:22:12.520 --> 00:22:16.520 They're blaming each other. 00:22:20.520 --> 00:22:24.520 Daniel, go back to Genesis, or you're already on it, my bad. 00:22:24.520 --> 00:22:28.520 They were both naked and they felt no shame. Shame is a belief. 00:22:28.520 --> 00:22:32.520 It's an emotion but it is driven by 00:22:32.520 --> 00:22:36.520 how you believe, what you believe about yourself. 00:22:36.520 --> 00:22:40.520 And then you go into Genesis 3 and the belief about themselves changes. 00:22:40.520 --> 00:22:44.520 And when it changes 00:22:44.520 --> 00:22:48.520 another act happens. They have to cover themselves. They've got to hide. 00:22:48.520 --> 00:22:52.520 Before any of that happened 00:22:52.520 --> 00:22:56.520 openness was natural. 00:22:56.520 --> 00:23:00.520 The relationship was good. But now openness feels dangerous. 00:23:00.520 --> 00:23:04.520 Before that presence was safe. Just to be in the presence of God 00:23:04.520 --> 00:23:08.520 was the safest thing for them. Now in Genesis 3 00:23:08.520 --> 00:23:12.520 presence feels threatening. 00:23:12.520 --> 00:23:16.520 And that right there is the narrowing of the perspective 00:23:16.520 --> 00:23:20.520 of the trust of the relationship. It's the rupture point. 00:23:20.520 --> 00:23:24.520 It's human story and like 00:23:24.520 --> 00:23:28.520 miniature. Like we can see us 00:23:28.520 --> 00:23:32.520 right there. This is us. Do we trust this? 00:23:32.520 --> 00:23:36.520 Because what happens is 00:23:36.520 --> 00:23:40.520 sin narrows our vision into 00:23:40.520 --> 00:23:44.520 separation. And when we talk about 00:23:44.520 --> 00:23:48.520 all, all widens 00:23:48.520 --> 00:23:52.520 it again into belonging. 00:23:52.520 --> 00:23:56.520 So we're going from separation, what we're trying to do is get back to belonging, to understand 00:23:56.520 --> 00:24:00.520 that we do belong in relationship, that we are in relationship, that we are at peace with 00:24:00.520 --> 00:24:04.520 God. 00:24:04.520 --> 00:24:08.520 And for some of us this type of language 00:24:08.520 --> 00:24:12.520 sounds different. 00:24:12.520 --> 00:24:16.520 So are you saying that 00:24:16.520 --> 00:24:20.520 Adam and Eve didn't sin? No 00:24:20.520 --> 00:24:24.520 they did sin. 00:24:24.520 --> 00:24:28.520 It was a while ago one of the things that we discussed and talked about was 00:24:28.520 --> 00:24:32.520 what is sin? 00:24:32.520 --> 00:24:36.520 Who told you what sin is? 00:24:36.520 --> 00:24:40.520 Who told you that? The Bible did. 00:24:40.520 --> 00:24:44.520 Somebody told you it. Somebody read it to you. Somebody told you 00:24:44.520 --> 00:24:48.520 what to see. But what is sin? 00:24:48.520 --> 00:24:52.520 For a lot of us it's 00:24:52.520 --> 00:24:56.520 the word for sin. It's an archery term. 00:24:56.520 --> 00:25:00.520 Anybody heard that? It's about 00:25:00.520 --> 00:25:04.520 missing the mark. 00:25:04.520 --> 00:25:08.520 To sin is to miss the mark. Now what 00:25:08.520 --> 00:25:12.520 happened for most of us is we were told what the mark is. 00:25:12.520 --> 00:25:16.520 What's the bullseye? 00:25:16.520 --> 00:25:20.520 If sin is missing the mark, what is the bullseye? 00:25:20.520 --> 00:25:24.520 Perfection. 00:25:24.520 --> 00:25:28.520 Right actions. 00:25:28.520 --> 00:25:32.520 Not doing the things that the Bible tells us not to do. 00:25:32.520 --> 00:25:36.520 Is that the mark? 00:25:36.520 --> 00:25:40.520 Because when I look at it from a 00:25:40.520 --> 00:25:44.520 relational perspective, when I look at it from a perception 00:25:44.520 --> 00:25:48.520 of relationship, when we look at it from Genesis 2 and Genesis 3 00:25:48.520 --> 00:25:52.520 where they go from unashamed to shame and hiding 00:25:52.520 --> 00:25:56.520 there is a mindset shift that happens. 00:25:56.520 --> 00:26:00.520 They no longer believe they are safe in a relationship with God. 00:26:00.520 --> 00:26:04.520 And if you're not safe in a relationship 00:26:04.520 --> 00:26:08.520 what do you do? 00:26:08.520 --> 00:26:12.520 I can't let you know what's wrong. What I've done wrong. 00:26:12.520 --> 00:26:16.520 I can't let you know that. So what mark did they miss? 00:26:16.520 --> 00:26:20.520 Was it the action? Was it not doing? 00:26:20.520 --> 00:26:24.520 Or was it doing the thing that God told them not to do? 00:26:24.520 --> 00:26:28.520 Francois de Trois says that sin is to believe less about 00:26:28.520 --> 00:26:32.520 yourself than God believes about you. 00:26:32.520 --> 00:26:36.520 To believe less about who you are 00:26:36.520 --> 00:26:40.520 than what God says about you. 00:26:40.520 --> 00:26:44.520 That sin. And now if we go to that 00:26:44.520 --> 00:26:48.520 as the mark, as the bull's eye 00:26:48.520 --> 00:26:52.520 now when shame enters 00:26:52.520 --> 00:26:56.520 and I no longer believe that I am everything that God says I am I have to hide. 00:26:56.520 --> 00:27:00.520 You guys have heard this 00:27:00.520 --> 00:27:04.520 in the difference between guilt 00:27:04.520 --> 00:27:08.520 and shame. Guilt is I did something wrong. Shame is 00:27:08.520 --> 00:27:12.520 I am wrong. There's something wrong with me. It is a belief about me. 00:27:12.520 --> 00:27:16.520 In this story in Genesis 3 both of those 00:27:16.520 --> 00:27:20.520 things happen. Guilt, Adam and Eve 00:27:20.520 --> 00:27:24.520 did something that they were told not to do. Guilty. 00:27:24.520 --> 00:27:28.520 But the bigger issue here is the 00:27:28.520 --> 00:27:32.520 shame that entered in. It's the 00:27:32.520 --> 00:27:36.520 disbelief and distrust of the relationship with God. 00:27:36.520 --> 00:27:40.520 Because in a healthy relationship 00:27:40.520 --> 00:27:44.520 if you mess up, you can come to the person 00:27:44.520 --> 00:27:48.520 because you trust them and you say I messed up. 00:27:48.520 --> 00:27:52.520 And that person 00:27:52.520 --> 00:27:56.520 can do a multitude of things but in a healthy 00:27:56.520 --> 00:28:00.520 trusting relationship and depending on how much you hurt them 00:28:00.520 --> 00:28:04.520 they can say well let's figure this out. 00:28:04.520 --> 00:28:08.520 Let's just work through this. I still love 00:28:08.520 --> 00:28:12.520 you. You're not broken. 00:28:12.520 --> 00:28:16.520 We just got to fix that. For so many of us 00:28:16.520 --> 00:28:20.520 the actions that we do are 00:28:20.520 --> 00:28:24.520 a ripple effect, a manifestation, 00:28:24.520 --> 00:28:28.520 a symptom of a disbelief about who we are. 00:28:28.520 --> 00:28:32.520 If I don't believe that I am everything that God says I am that I have to prove 00:28:32.520 --> 00:28:36.520 that I am better than you. 00:28:36.520 --> 00:28:40.520 And to prove that I'm better than you when performance becomes the thing 00:28:40.520 --> 00:28:44.520 I can't tell you when I mess up. So then we, what do we 00:28:44.520 --> 00:28:48.520 do? We all take a bunch of fig leaves and we 00:28:48.520 --> 00:28:52.520 sew them together and we hide. We hide what we're struggling with. 00:28:52.520 --> 00:28:56.520 We hide the things that we are doing that are wrong. 00:28:56.520 --> 00:29:00.520 That's a symptom. 00:29:00.520 --> 00:29:04.520 The disease that entered into humanity in the fall in Genesis 00:29:04.520 --> 00:29:08.520 3 is the misperception of who God is. 00:29:08.520 --> 00:29:12.520 It is a distrust of the character of God. And when that 00:29:12.520 --> 00:29:16.520 disease entered into Adam and if we are all connected 00:29:16.520 --> 00:29:20.520 and all one it enters into us and Jesus comes and says 00:29:20.520 --> 00:29:24.520 I'm going to fix this. 00:29:24.520 --> 00:29:28.520 I'm going to show you who you really are. 00:29:28.520 --> 00:29:32.520 Because 00:29:32.520 --> 00:29:36.520 in Genesis 3 the human family 00:29:36.520 --> 00:29:40.520 experienced a trust rupture with God. 00:29:40.520 --> 00:29:44.520 With the Creator. And what happens there? 00:29:44.520 --> 00:29:48.520 It creates division. 00:29:48.520 --> 00:29:52.520 We see each other differently now. 00:29:52.520 --> 00:29:56.520 It creates an us versus them. 00:29:56.520 --> 00:30:00.520 It creates enemy thinking. 00:30:00.520 --> 00:30:04.520 It creates suspicion of everything and everyone including God. 00:30:04.520 --> 00:30:08.520 It creates the need to label, 00:30:08.520 --> 00:30:12.520 to sort, to separate, to exclude, to draw 00:30:12.520 --> 00:30:16.520 borders and boundaries and say these people are wrong and these people 00:30:16.520 --> 00:30:20.520 are right and these people are good and these people are bad. 00:30:20.520 --> 00:30:24.520 At some level this all 00:30:24.520 --> 00:30:28.520 the fall, the brokenness, it all begins 00:30:28.520 --> 00:30:32.520 to lead us aside that we can define good and evil 00:30:32.520 --> 00:30:36.520 from inside of fear and apart from trust. 00:30:36.520 --> 00:30:40.520 And that's what God says to Adam and Eve. This is the tree 00:30:40.520 --> 00:30:44.520 of the knowledge of good and evil. 00:30:44.520 --> 00:30:48.520 Don't eat of it. 00:30:48.520 --> 00:30:52.520 Because you're not going to get discernment there. There's no wisdom 00:30:52.520 --> 00:30:56.520 there. It's judgment just soaked in separation. 00:30:56.520 --> 00:31:00.520 And once that consciousness enters 00:31:00.520 --> 00:31:04.520 into the story then everything starts fracturing. The self-fractures 00:31:04.520 --> 00:31:08.520 relationships fracture, communities fracture, nations fracture. 00:31:08.520 --> 00:31:12.520 And one of the clearest memories that I have when I was in Iraq 00:31:12.520 --> 00:31:16.520 this is my first deployment. I was sitting with a source 00:31:16.520 --> 00:31:20.520 an Iraqi that I was working with. He was a Shia Muslim 00:31:20.520 --> 00:31:24.520 and we've been working together for like eight months. 00:31:24.520 --> 00:31:28.520 I think I've told you guys about lucky. We call him lucky because he got shot five times 00:31:28.520 --> 00:31:32.520 and he survived. That's lucky. 00:31:32.520 --> 00:31:36.520 Lucky was Shia and we were sitting and talking and 00:31:36.520 --> 00:31:40.520 he was like going on and on and on about some neighbors that lived 00:31:40.520 --> 00:31:44.520 in the neighborhood adjacent to his neighborhood and they were Sunni 00:31:44.520 --> 00:31:48.520 Muslims and so Sunni Muslims and Shia Muslims they believe a little bit different thing about 00:31:48.520 --> 00:31:52.520 Islam and their religion. So 00:31:52.520 --> 00:31:56.520 he just like there was like a hatred. And I was like 00:31:56.520 --> 00:32:00.520 lucky like 00:32:00.520 --> 00:32:04.520 why don't you like them? He's like because 00:32:04.520 --> 00:32:08.520 I don't. But why don't you like them? 00:32:08.520 --> 00:32:12.520 Well because we don't. 00:32:12.520 --> 00:32:16.520 It's a push a little bit like but why? And he looks at me and buddy 00:32:16.520 --> 00:32:20.520 who was like probably in his 50s I think I don't know he lived a rough life he could have been like 00:32:20.520 --> 00:32:24.520 27. But 00:32:24.520 --> 00:32:28.520 he finally said I really don't know 00:32:28.520 --> 00:32:32.520 it's just what I've been told my whole life. 00:32:32.520 --> 00:32:36.520 And that sounds crazy 00:32:36.520 --> 00:32:40.520 but we all have that. 00:32:40.520 --> 00:32:44.520 How many people 00:32:44.520 --> 00:32:48.520 have we been taught to distrust? To dismiss? To fear? 00:32:48.520 --> 00:32:52.520 To judge? To other? 00:32:52.520 --> 00:32:56.520 Who told us that? 00:32:56.520 --> 00:33:00.520 Who told us those people were the problem? Who told us those neighbors 00:33:00.520 --> 00:33:04.520 were the threat? Who told us that division was normal? Who told us 00:33:04.520 --> 00:33:08.520 that we were supposed to live this way? Because we do. 00:33:08.520 --> 00:33:12.520 We do it in religion and politics 00:33:12.520 --> 00:33:16.520 with race, with class, with nationality, sexuality, denominations, ideology. 00:33:16.520 --> 00:33:20.520 We do it with whole groups of people we don't even know. 00:33:20.520 --> 00:33:24.520 Or that we barely know. 00:33:24.520 --> 00:33:28.520 A lot of the time if we're really honest the answer would 00:33:28.520 --> 00:33:32.520 be the same as buddies. I don't actually know why. That's just what I've been told. 00:33:32.520 --> 00:33:36.520 And this is why I think this emotion 00:33:36.520 --> 00:33:40.520 of all matters so much this idea that is zooming out. 00:33:40.520 --> 00:33:44.520 Because it makes us step back it makes us widen the frame it reminds 00:33:44.520 --> 00:33:48.520 you that reality is bigger than the categories that fear taught 00:33:48.520 --> 00:33:52.520 you to live inside of. 00:33:52.520 --> 00:33:56.520 And I think when I saw the video of Victor Glover 00:33:56.520 --> 00:34:00.520 I think that that is what he's trying to describe to us. 00:34:00.520 --> 00:34:04.520 These astronauts that they see earth and they suddenly the lines disappear. 00:34:04.520 --> 00:34:08.520 Not because pain isn't real. Not because conflict isn't real. 00:34:08.520 --> 00:34:12.520 Not because justice isn't or doesn't matter. 00:34:12.520 --> 00:34:16.520 But because from that vantage point the deeper truth becomes 00:34:16.520 --> 00:34:20.520 harder to ignore that we belong to each other. 00:34:24.520 --> 00:34:28.520 And when I hear them talk about it I can't help but think about 00:34:28.520 --> 00:34:32.520 Jesus in the gospel. 00:34:32.520 --> 00:34:36.520 Because Jesus says things that only makes sense if separation 00:34:36.520 --> 00:34:40.520 is not the deepest truth for us. 00:34:40.520 --> 00:34:44.520 Jesus tells us things in the gospel where he says to love your 00:34:44.520 --> 00:34:48.520 enemies. 00:34:48.520 --> 00:34:52.520 And we've talked about this. It's one of the most impossible things Jesus ever says. 00:34:52.520 --> 00:34:56.520 If enemy is the deepest reality in our lives then to love your 00:34:56.520 --> 00:35:00.520 enemy is crazy. 00:35:00.520 --> 00:35:04.520 But what if enemy thinking itself is part of the 00:35:04.520 --> 00:35:08.520 fallen imagination? Because if we are all connected and we are all one then I can't be 00:35:08.520 --> 00:35:12.520 more enemy because we're one. 00:35:12.520 --> 00:35:16.520 To hate you is to hate me. 00:35:16.520 --> 00:35:20.520 And I think in that, we've talked about this a while about 00:35:20.520 --> 00:35:24.520 in that conversation where Jesus says to love your enemy I think he is trying to 00:35:24.520 --> 00:35:28.520 explain to us that when you love someone who you think is your enemy they won't be your 00:35:28.520 --> 00:35:32.520 enemy for very long. Because I don't think Jesus 00:35:32.520 --> 00:35:36.520 is saying fake it till you make it kind of thing. 00:35:36.520 --> 00:35:40.520 You say like love them. Because when you do you're going to realize that they are 00:35:40.520 --> 00:35:44.520 human just like you. And they are struggling with 00:35:44.520 --> 00:35:48.520 their own identity just like you. And when you begin to 00:35:48.520 --> 00:35:52.520 remind each other of who you are and that you 00:35:52.520 --> 00:35:56.520 are loved not because of what you've done or not done but because of 00:35:56.520 --> 00:36:00.520 just being human. Being created by the creator 00:36:00.520 --> 00:36:04.520 that is love. When we begin to see each other is that way then 00:36:04.520 --> 00:36:08.520 we can't have enemies. 00:36:08.520 --> 00:36:12.520 I think he's teaching us to return to the reality of the garden 00:36:12.520 --> 00:36:16.520 because in the garden there were no enemies. There was 00:36:16.520 --> 00:36:20.520 communion, there was openness, there was union, there was shared life 00:36:20.520 --> 00:36:24.520 and Jesus comes into the world built on 00:36:24.520 --> 00:36:28.520 an us and them mentality and he says no no no love 00:36:28.520 --> 00:36:32.520 them your enemies. Why? 00:36:32.520 --> 00:36:36.520 Because love is the refusal to let 00:36:36.520 --> 00:36:40.520 separation have the final word. 00:36:40.520 --> 00:36:44.520 Are you going to Jesus' words in John 17? 00:36:44.520 --> 00:36:48.520 Before he goes to the cross he's praying. 00:36:52.520 --> 00:36:56.520 That they may be one. I ask not only 00:36:56.520 --> 00:37:00.520 for these disciples but also for all those who will one day believe in 00:37:00.520 --> 00:37:04.520 me through their message. I pray for them all to be joined together as 00:37:04.520 --> 00:37:08.520 one. Even as I as you and I father are joined together as one 00:37:08.520 --> 00:37:12.520 I pray for them to become one with us so that the world will recognize 00:37:12.520 --> 00:37:16.520 that you sent me. I pray that they will know that they are one. 00:37:18.520 --> 00:37:22.520 He prays for oneness. 00:37:22.520 --> 00:37:25.520 Jesus doesn't pray for a tighter tribe. He doesn't 00:37:25.520 --> 00:37:29.520 pray for cleaner categories. He doesn't pray for people to 00:37:29.520 --> 00:37:33.520 get better at dividing the world. 00:37:33.520 --> 00:37:37.520 He prays for oneness. Not sameness. Not control. 00:37:37.520 --> 00:37:41.520 Not forced uniformity. Oneness. 00:37:41.520 --> 00:37:45.520 Because that's the healing that the human story needed. 00:37:50.520 --> 00:37:54.520 Who told you? Who told you that? 00:37:54.520 --> 00:37:57.520 Who told you you were supposed to live afraid of each other. Who told you that 00:37:57.520 --> 00:38:01.520 division is wisdom. Who told you that your enemy is your enemy forever. 00:38:01.520 --> 00:38:05.520 Who told you that being human means living cut off from 00:38:05.520 --> 00:38:09.520 love. Who told you that separation 00:38:09.520 --> 00:38:13.520 is normal. 00:38:13.520 --> 00:38:17.520 The fall teaches us division but love 00:38:17.520 --> 00:38:21.520 teaches us we belong to each other again. They were working 00:38:21.520 --> 00:38:25.520 in this together and when we work in this together might 00:38:25.520 --> 00:38:29.520 actually start to experience the love and the connectedness and the oneness 00:38:29.520 --> 00:38:33.520 that we had in the garden in the first place. The mark 00:38:33.520 --> 00:38:37.520 of perfection was oneness and 00:38:37.520 --> 00:38:41.520 love without separation. We're going to end with a video 00:38:41.520 --> 00:38:45.520 from another astronaut that was on Artemis II. 00:38:55.520 --> 00:38:59.520 [silence] 00:39:25.520 --> 00:39:29.520 [silence] 00:39:55.520 --> 00:39:59.520 [silence] 00:39:59.520 --> 00:40:03.520 [silence] 00:40:03.520 --> 00:40:07.520 [silence] 00:40:07.520 --> 00:40:11.520 [silence] 00:40:11.520 --> 00:40:17.520 [silence] 00:40:17.520 --> 00:40:27.520 [silence] 00:40:27.520 --> 00:40:49.520 [silence] 00:40:49.520 --> 00:40:51.520 Planet Earth, you are a crew. 00:40:51.520 --> 00:40:55.520 She says that we're all in this together and if we're doing this together for each 00:40:55.520 --> 00:40:59.520 other then we will reach the destination that we all were made 00:40:59.520 --> 00:41:03.520 for. So the lie of the garden of the fall is 00:41:03.520 --> 00:41:07.520 separation then the truth of the gospel is that we belong. 00:41:07.520 --> 00:41:11.520 And we belong to each other. No more 00:41:11.520 --> 00:41:15.520 enemies, no separations, no us and them. This is what Jesus was teaching us over 00:41:15.520 --> 00:41:19.520 and over and over again. I love what 00:41:19.520 --> 00:41:23.520 awe does because it zooms out. 00:41:23.520 --> 00:41:27.520 It says all these divisions that you've created are just ground level 00:41:27.520 --> 00:41:31.520 things. Pull back a little bit 00:41:31.520 --> 00:41:35.520 and see that the human across from you no matter what they believe, what they say, who they 00:41:35.520 --> 00:41:39.520 are is part of you. 00:41:39.520 --> 00:41:43.520 You're all in a crew together and we got to learn how to love each other. 00:41:43.520 --> 00:41:47.520 But it takes a lot because this 00:41:47.520 --> 00:41:51.520 lie has been going on for a really, really, really long time. 00:41:51.520 --> 00:41:55.520 And the only way to change the lie is to do what we 00:41:55.520 --> 00:41:59.520 say every single week when we leave here. 00:41:59.520 --> 00:42:03.520 To love someone well, especially someone who thinks that you're not going 00:42:03.520 --> 00:42:07.520 to love them. Because that's what Jesus did. He went 00:42:07.520 --> 00:42:11.520 to the ones that didn't believe they were lovable. They were told by society 00:42:11.520 --> 00:42:15.520 over and over and over again they were not lovable. They didn't belong and Jesus went to them and said 00:42:15.520 --> 00:42:19.520 you do. And I love you and I'm here to show you why you do 00:42:19.520 --> 00:42:23.520 that. That is what removing ourselves from separation 00:42:23.520 --> 00:42:27.520 and stepping into trust with God and understanding that we belong. We are at peace with 00:42:27.520 --> 00:42:31.520 God that we are loved by God. Now we get to go love people 00:42:31.520 --> 00:42:35.520 well. Because that's what we were made to do. 00:42:35.520 --> 00:42:39.520 So go do that. Bring the garden 00:42:39.520 --> 00:42:43.520 to earth and go love each other well. 00:42:43.520 --> 00:42:47.520 We'll see you next week.