1 00:00:46,899 --> 00:00:49,509 - Hello and welcome back to the show. 2 00:00:49,509 --> 00:00:50,589 I hope you're going well. 3 00:00:50,589 --> 00:00:52,179 How has your weekend been? 4 00:00:52,179 --> 00:00:53,679 Chances are, it was a long one for 5 00:00:53,679 --> 00:00:55,389 you if you were lucky enough to enjoy 6 00:00:55,689 --> 00:00:57,819 the public holidays over Easter. 7 00:00:57,819 --> 00:00:59,709 I'm planning this is recording this 8 00:00:59,714 --> 00:01:00,999 one ahead of time and I'm planning 9 00:01:01,004 --> 00:01:02,979 on heading away with family and just. 10 00:01:02,979 --> 00:01:05,439 Spending a few days relaxing and 11 00:01:05,709 --> 00:01:07,389 enjoying each other's company. 12 00:01:07,389 --> 00:01:08,559 So I'm really looking forward to that 13 00:01:08,559 --> 00:01:10,299 and also enjoying other people's cooking. 14 00:01:10,299 --> 00:01:12,759 My family are much better at cooking 15 00:01:12,759 --> 00:01:14,229 than me and they quite enjoy it. 16 00:01:14,229 --> 00:01:15,609 So, uh, I'm looking forward to that side 17 00:01:15,609 --> 00:01:18,519 of things too, and just being together 18 00:01:18,519 --> 00:01:20,529 and having Lando there with us too 19 00:01:20,579 --> 00:01:22,779 and his extended family. 20 00:01:23,379 --> 00:01:25,689 Now, this week on the podcast, I have 21 00:01:25,919 --> 00:01:28,659 two guests, and I think this might be 22 00:01:28,659 --> 00:01:29,859 the first time that I've actually had 23 00:01:29,859 --> 00:01:32,109 two people on the other side of the mic. 24 00:01:33,279 --> 00:01:35,699 The two people that I'm talking about are 25 00:01:35,704 --> 00:01:38,829 Melissa Ambrosini and Nick Broadhurst. 26 00:01:39,085 --> 00:01:42,325 This is a very, very cool episode 27 00:01:42,325 --> 00:01:44,605 because I actually subscribe to 28 00:01:44,605 --> 00:01:46,585 Melissa's podcast many years ago. 29 00:01:46,735 --> 00:01:48,115 It's called the Melissa Ambrosini 30 00:01:48,325 --> 00:01:50,035 Show, and it was one of the very first 31 00:01:50,035 --> 00:01:51,865 podcasts that I actually listened to. 32 00:01:52,165 --> 00:01:53,635 So now to have her on my own 33 00:01:53,635 --> 00:01:55,765 podcast is a pretty cool moment. 34 00:01:56,215 --> 00:01:58,795 , Melissa and Nick, they have just 35 00:01:58,795 --> 00:02:01,735 released in the past week their 36 00:02:01,825 --> 00:02:04,615 book, which is called Time Magic. 37 00:02:04,645 --> 00:02:08,115 Reclaim Your Time, Reclaim Your Life. 38 00:02:08,715 --> 00:02:10,005 And this book is going to help you 39 00:02:10,005 --> 00:02:11,715 discover the surprising ways that 40 00:02:11,715 --> 00:02:15,405 you are losing time and the simple, 41 00:02:15,435 --> 00:02:18,615 very practical ways to claim it back. 42 00:02:18,705 --> 00:02:21,485 And then how to make the most 43 00:02:21,735 --> 00:02:23,775 of that time that you free up. 44 00:02:23,805 --> 00:02:25,905 ? What should you be doing with that time? 45 00:02:26,125 --> 00:02:27,445 This is for people that are feeling 46 00:02:27,445 --> 00:02:30,505 time poor, stretched and stressed out 47 00:02:31,105 --> 00:02:33,235 parents, entrepreneurs, employees, 48 00:02:33,595 --> 00:02:35,005 creatives, and anyone hungry for 49 00:02:35,005 --> 00:02:37,795 a more spacious, meaningful life. 50 00:02:37,885 --> 00:02:39,235 I was pretty happy as I read through 51 00:02:39,235 --> 00:02:40,585 that I had a few of these things in 52 00:02:40,585 --> 00:02:43,135 place and other areas were just, uh, 53 00:02:43,135 --> 00:02:44,875 I could see how I could take things 54 00:02:44,875 --> 00:02:47,245 to the next level to make things 55 00:02:47,245 --> 00:02:50,065 again for me, more calm, more spacious 56 00:02:50,065 --> 00:02:54,115 more organised and to continue to 57 00:02:54,115 --> 00:02:57,835 refine and improve the way that 58 00:02:57,835 --> 00:03:00,475 I'm spending my time and making the 59 00:03:00,475 --> 00:03:02,425 most of the time that I have to do 60 00:03:02,425 --> 00:03:04,165 the things that matter most for me. 61 00:03:04,675 --> 00:03:06,295 So as you tune into this episode, 62 00:03:06,295 --> 00:03:08,245 you're going to hear how the two of 63 00:03:08,245 --> 00:03:09,985 them made time to actually write this 64 00:03:09,985 --> 00:03:11,725 book and why they have written it. 65 00:03:12,265 --> 00:03:14,065 How particularly Melissa's life has 66 00:03:14,065 --> 00:03:15,835 changed now that she has welcomed 67 00:03:15,835 --> 00:03:19,135 her first bub,, Bambi into her life. 68 00:03:19,335 --> 00:03:21,415 Their biggest tips to get started on 69 00:03:21,415 --> 00:03:24,595 today when it comes to reclaiming your 70 00:03:24,595 --> 00:03:27,835 time and much, much more in this episode. 71 00:03:28,075 --> 00:03:29,185 So grateful for the two of 72 00:03:29,185 --> 00:03:30,715 them to coming on the podcast. 73 00:03:30,745 --> 00:03:33,025 They recorded this on the day that their 74 00:03:33,055 --> 00:03:35,215 book was released into the world, so it 75 00:03:35,215 --> 00:03:37,675 was a really exciting day, and I know 76 00:03:37,675 --> 00:03:39,655 that you're going to love this episode. 77 00:03:39,655 --> 00:03:41,425 So without further ado, allow 78 00:03:41,425 --> 00:03:43,825 me to introduce you to Melissa 79 00:03:43,825 --> 00:03:45,985 Ambrosini and Nick Broadhurst. 80 00:03:50,991 --> 00:03:52,551 thank you both first of all for being 81 00:03:52,551 --> 00:03:54,351 here and making the time to do this 82 00:03:54,351 --> 00:03:55,101 episode. 83 00:03:55,392 --> 00:03:57,342 We are so excited to be here. 84 00:03:57,448 --> 00:03:58,435 And congratulations. 85 00:03:58,435 --> 00:04:00,055 Today is the actual launch day 86 00:04:00,060 --> 00:04:01,555 for your new book Time Magic. 87 00:04:01,555 --> 00:04:02,965 So what a thrill and honor to chat 88 00:04:02,970 --> 00:04:04,405 with you on this really exciting day. 89 00:04:04,996 --> 00:04:05,296 Thank you. 90 00:04:05,296 --> 00:04:06,466 It's, it's super exciting. 91 00:04:06,466 --> 00:04:07,906 It's, um, it's been a lot of work 92 00:04:07,906 --> 00:04:09,236 to get it to this point, but, we're 93 00:04:09,236 --> 00:04:11,546 excited to see what everyone thinks. 94 00:04:11,546 --> 00:04:12,806 It's slightly nerve wracking actually, 95 00:04:12,806 --> 00:04:14,777 because yeah, you start getting reviews. 96 00:04:14,777 --> 00:04:16,097 We did see the first review come 97 00:04:16,097 --> 00:04:17,117 back and it was very positive, 98 00:04:17,117 --> 00:04:17,837 so we're happy with that. 99 00:04:18,897 --> 00:04:20,967 It is absolutely jam-packed your 100 00:04:20,967 --> 00:04:23,667 book, uh, with so many practical 101 00:04:23,667 --> 00:04:26,577 tips and also reflections and stories 102 00:04:26,577 --> 00:04:29,037 from both yourselves and also your 103 00:04:29,037 --> 00:04:31,047 peers, your friends, uh, incredible 104 00:04:31,052 --> 00:04:32,487 people from around the world around 105 00:04:32,492 --> 00:04:34,497 how they make time work for them. 106 00:04:34,887 --> 00:04:36,687 I wanna start off with why 107 00:04:36,687 --> 00:04:38,291 did you write this book? 108 00:04:38,507 --> 00:04:39,887 Well, I think for us, you know, 109 00:04:39,917 --> 00:04:42,677 we weren't always the way we are. 110 00:04:42,707 --> 00:04:44,267 We have come from backgrounds 111 00:04:44,267 --> 00:04:46,607 where I was incredibly time poor. 112 00:04:46,607 --> 00:04:49,007 I went from being a successful, um, 113 00:04:49,007 --> 00:04:51,707 musician to working in real estate 114 00:04:51,767 --> 00:04:53,897 and all of a sudden I had no time. 115 00:04:53,927 --> 00:04:56,987 And I used to spend time with my 116 00:04:56,987 --> 00:04:59,897 son, my young son at the time, and 117 00:04:59,897 --> 00:05:01,157 I just wasn't present with him. 118 00:05:01,157 --> 00:05:02,267 I was on the phone, I was 119 00:05:02,267 --> 00:05:03,177 trying to close a deal. 120 00:05:03,277 --> 00:05:04,952 It was the worst feeling. 121 00:05:04,952 --> 00:05:06,482 And you know, I always say you 122 00:05:06,482 --> 00:05:07,592 should never regret anything. 123 00:05:07,592 --> 00:05:08,762 But if I could go back and change 124 00:05:08,792 --> 00:05:10,832 anything, it would be being present 125 00:05:10,832 --> 00:05:12,722 with with Leo when he was younger. 126 00:05:13,262 --> 00:05:14,972 And that's because I was really time poor. 127 00:05:14,972 --> 00:05:16,232 I didn't know these things. 128 00:05:17,042 --> 00:05:19,442 Nick tells a story how he would be 129 00:05:19,442 --> 00:05:22,412 playing cricket with Leo and throwing the 130 00:05:22,417 --> 00:05:24,512 ball with one hand and be on the phone, 131 00:05:24,512 --> 00:05:27,242 closing deals on with the other hand. 132 00:05:27,272 --> 00:05:30,092 And that's just not how he wants to 133 00:05:30,092 --> 00:05:32,042 do life or how either of us wanna do. 134 00:05:32,567 --> 00:05:32,784 Yeah. 135 00:05:32,814 --> 00:05:34,014 So Melissa was similar. 136 00:05:34,014 --> 00:05:36,384 She, well, I'll let you tell the story, 137 00:05:36,384 --> 00:05:37,944 but you were very much a people pleaser. 138 00:05:37,944 --> 00:05:39,224 You said yes to everything. 139 00:05:39,453 --> 00:05:39,843 Yep. 140 00:05:39,873 --> 00:05:41,733 That was me, said yes to every 141 00:05:41,733 --> 00:05:43,293 single thing that came my way. 142 00:05:43,293 --> 00:05:44,643 Wanting to people please. 143 00:05:44,648 --> 00:05:46,773 That came from like a long lineage 144 00:05:46,773 --> 00:05:48,093 of people pleasers, like my 145 00:05:48,093 --> 00:05:49,473 mother, my mother's mother, my 146 00:05:49,478 --> 00:05:51,483 mother's mother's mother, you know? 147 00:05:51,483 --> 00:05:53,523 And it was deeply ingrained 148 00:05:53,523 --> 00:05:54,963 within me and it actually burnt 149 00:05:54,968 --> 00:05:57,753 me out and burnt my adrenals. 150 00:05:57,758 --> 00:05:59,943 And I ended up with chronic fatigue 151 00:05:59,943 --> 00:06:01,563 and adrenal fatigue and ended up in 152 00:06:01,563 --> 00:06:05,463 hospital and that's a similar time to 153 00:06:05,463 --> 00:06:07,683 when I really started my journey and 154 00:06:07,683 --> 00:06:09,213 I realized that the way that I was 155 00:06:09,213 --> 00:06:13,563 living my life was not serving me. 156 00:06:13,623 --> 00:06:15,633 It wasn't inspiring me and it was 157 00:06:15,633 --> 00:06:18,003 not how I wanted to live my life. 158 00:06:18,336 --> 00:06:19,786 You write about that so well 159 00:06:19,786 --> 00:06:20,956 in Mastering Your Mean Girl. 160 00:06:20,956 --> 00:06:22,216 I'm due for a reread of that. 161 00:06:22,216 --> 00:06:23,026 I was just trying to find it. 162 00:06:23,026 --> 00:06:24,316 I'm like, I've lent it to someone. 163 00:06:24,606 --> 00:06:25,536 , but you covered that so well. 164 00:06:25,536 --> 00:06:26,976 And do you know what my 165 00:06:27,556 --> 00:06:29,886 favorite line from your book is? 166 00:06:29,886 --> 00:06:30,396 This one? 167 00:06:30,401 --> 00:06:31,446 And it really reflects on 168 00:06:31,451 --> 00:06:32,946 what you've just both said. 169 00:06:32,946 --> 00:06:34,926 Page 72, if you're happy 170 00:06:34,926 --> 00:06:35,796 for me to read it out. 171 00:06:35,796 --> 00:06:37,681 It says, "Remember, it can be 172 00:06:37,681 --> 00:06:39,991 uncomfortable to disappoint someone else 173 00:06:40,051 --> 00:06:42,181 in order to not disappoint yourself, 174 00:06:42,391 --> 00:06:44,581 but your ability to create the spacious, 175 00:06:45,131 --> 00:06:46,801 priority driven schedule and life. 176 00:06:46,801 --> 00:06:48,871 of your dreams rises in direct 177 00:06:48,876 --> 00:06:51,421 proportion to your ability 178 00:06:51,421 --> 00:06:53,131 to tolerate that discomfort. 179 00:06:54,461 --> 00:06:55,658 That's so good, babe. 180 00:06:55,668 --> 00:06:56,088 So good. 181 00:06:56,088 --> 00:06:57,378 And that hit me across the face and 182 00:06:57,378 --> 00:06:59,549 I said no to something a few days 183 00:06:59,549 --> 00:07:02,069 ago that normally I would say yes to. 184 00:07:02,369 --> 00:07:03,919 And, um, I've recently become a Mum. 185 00:07:04,024 --> 00:07:06,604 I have a, an almost seven month old son. 186 00:07:06,604 --> 00:07:07,504 He's downstairs with my 187 00:07:07,504 --> 00:07:08,584 partner at the moment. 188 00:07:09,004 --> 00:07:11,254 And um, it has made me much 189 00:07:11,254 --> 00:07:13,594 more, , protective of my time. 190 00:07:13,954 --> 00:07:15,004 And I know that these are 191 00:07:15,004 --> 00:07:17,074 lessons that are for me to learn. 192 00:07:17,074 --> 00:07:19,444 I'm a people pleaser too, and 193 00:07:20,044 --> 00:07:21,514 recognizing when I was about to 194 00:07:21,514 --> 00:07:23,284 jump in to say yes, absolutely. 195 00:07:23,374 --> 00:07:24,874 And I was only doing that for the 196 00:07:24,874 --> 00:07:26,374 other person out of the fear that 197 00:07:26,374 --> 00:07:28,804 they may not like me if I said no. 198 00:07:29,164 --> 00:07:32,134 What part of reclaiming your time 199 00:07:32,134 --> 00:07:34,614 do you think this own practice and 200 00:07:34,614 --> 00:07:37,464 I guess strength and awareness plays 201 00:07:37,469 --> 00:07:38,994 in being able to say no to other 202 00:07:38,994 --> 00:07:40,644 people and their priorities when it 203 00:07:40,644 --> 00:07:41,724 feels like they're encroaching on 204 00:07:41,729 --> 00:07:43,464 us and maybe we don't even realize. 205 00:07:43,980 --> 00:07:45,180 Well, I think it starts 206 00:07:45,185 --> 00:07:46,200 with awareness, right? 207 00:07:46,860 --> 00:07:48,060 It really starts with awareness. 208 00:07:48,060 --> 00:07:50,910 And when you become aware of how, 209 00:07:50,915 --> 00:07:53,925 like truly how precious time is you've 210 00:07:53,925 --> 00:07:56,145 gotta sort of understand that first 211 00:07:56,265 --> 00:07:58,245 in order to, then it's like anything, 212 00:07:58,725 --> 00:07:59,955 if someone goes through a massive 213 00:07:59,955 --> 00:08:01,905 health crisis, all of a sudden their 214 00:08:01,905 --> 00:08:03,355 health becomes a massive priority. 215 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:03,495 Right? 216 00:08:03,495 --> 00:08:05,145 And they change a lot of things in 217 00:08:05,150 --> 00:08:06,795 their life about the way they live. 218 00:08:07,305 --> 00:08:08,235 Same with time when you 219 00:08:08,235 --> 00:08:09,525 realize how precious it is. 220 00:08:09,530 --> 00:08:11,115 In fact, I'll give you some statistics. 221 00:08:11,625 --> 00:08:12,855 So you, you would've known from the 222 00:08:12,855 --> 00:08:14,555 book, we worked with a statistician 223 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:15,615 to figure out like, how are 224 00:08:15,615 --> 00:08:16,995 we actually spending our time? 225 00:08:17,365 --> 00:08:18,965 And when you look at 226 00:08:18,965 --> 00:08:21,180 on average, we are living around 79, 227 00:08:21,180 --> 00:08:23,625 80 years on, on average, the average 228 00:08:23,625 --> 00:08:25,965 person is sleeping for about 26 years. 229 00:08:26,385 --> 00:08:28,605 We are working for just over 13 years. 230 00:08:28,935 --> 00:08:32,355 We're on our phones for almost 13 years. 231 00:08:32,568 --> 00:08:33,815 And that's actually interesting 232 00:08:33,815 --> 00:08:36,335 because that statistic is also 233 00:08:36,335 --> 00:08:40,055 based on when a average 15 year old 234 00:08:40,055 --> 00:08:42,515 child will get their first phone. 235 00:08:43,180 --> 00:08:44,855 But these days they're getting 236 00:08:44,855 --> 00:08:46,025 phones much younger than that. 237 00:08:46,025 --> 00:08:47,585 So you can probably turn up the 238 00:08:47,585 --> 00:08:49,355 number of years on the phone there. 239 00:08:49,425 --> 00:08:50,325 which is pretty scary. 240 00:08:50,595 --> 00:08:52,395 There's almost 10 years watching tv. 241 00:08:52,395 --> 00:08:53,655 There's almost five years 242 00:08:53,655 --> 00:08:54,975 doing domestic duties. 243 00:08:55,335 --> 00:08:56,985 We are eating for almost 244 00:08:56,990 --> 00:08:58,965 four years, which is, 245 00:08:58,965 --> 00:09:00,135 I'd like to increase that one. 246 00:09:00,135 --> 00:09:01,025 That's, I'm cool with that. 247 00:09:01,175 --> 00:09:02,305 Yeah, that's a great 248 00:09:02,305 --> 00:09:02,495 good one. 249 00:09:03,658 --> 00:09:04,798 We're spending about three and a half 250 00:09:04,798 --> 00:09:07,438 years on vacations, just over three 251 00:09:07,438 --> 00:09:09,058 years on holidays, which is great. 252 00:09:09,257 --> 00:09:10,270 A lot of people don't get 253 00:09:10,270 --> 00:09:11,500 that in their lifetime. 254 00:09:12,017 --> 00:09:13,577 Schooling for 1.6 years. 255 00:09:13,577 --> 00:09:14,657 But I was just gonna say like, 256 00:09:14,927 --> 00:09:17,207 just over three years in your 257 00:09:17,212 --> 00:09:19,187 whole life on holidays, like for 258 00:09:19,187 --> 00:09:22,427 me, I'm like, that's not enough. 259 00:09:22,517 --> 00:09:23,417 You know what I mean? 260 00:09:24,077 --> 00:09:24,797 It's not enough. 261 00:09:24,797 --> 00:09:25,937 And then so when you add all these 262 00:09:25,942 --> 00:09:28,517 things up, you end up with, if you 263 00:09:28,517 --> 00:09:30,617 imagine if you zoom out and you look 264 00:09:30,617 --> 00:09:32,412 at your life as a pie chart And where 265 00:09:33,242 --> 00:09:34,562 you're spending your time, the biggest 266 00:09:34,562 --> 00:09:37,052 chunk being sleep, of course, and 267 00:09:37,052 --> 00:09:39,572 what's left at the end of your life. 268 00:09:39,992 --> 00:09:41,462 For the things that bring us the 269 00:09:41,462 --> 00:09:43,712 most, meaning it's just over a 270 00:09:43,712 --> 00:09:46,892 year, which is really quite scary. 271 00:09:47,312 --> 00:09:49,832 So when we actually found these numbers, 272 00:09:50,208 --> 00:09:51,768 it's spurred us on even more to write this 273 00:09:51,768 --> 00:09:54,288 book because we realized we are living in 274 00:09:54,528 --> 00:09:57,708 a way which has afforded us to carve out 275 00:09:57,938 --> 00:10:00,528 a lot of space for the things we love, and 276 00:10:00,558 --> 00:10:02,778 we wanted to show people how to do that. 277 00:10:02,778 --> 00:10:04,728 And we had sort of done it our 278 00:10:04,728 --> 00:10:06,468 own way separately and then coming 279 00:10:06,468 --> 00:10:08,148 together had sort of amplified that. 280 00:10:08,268 --> 00:10:09,678 And time magic really is the 281 00:10:10,258 --> 00:10:11,718 solution to that question of, 282 00:10:12,018 --> 00:10:13,188 you know, where did my time go? 283 00:10:13,188 --> 00:10:14,688 I haven't got enough hours in the day. 284 00:10:14,693 --> 00:10:17,328 That common feeling that we tend to have 285 00:10:17,688 --> 00:10:19,878 and time magic is the solution to that. 286 00:10:20,158 --> 00:10:21,728 You write in the book about one of. 287 00:10:21,728 --> 00:10:24,088 your friends Who, um, has a very 288 00:10:25,298 --> 00:10:28,448 I think, familiar story that he was 289 00:10:28,508 --> 00:10:30,608 working all hours of the day working 290 00:10:30,608 --> 00:10:32,468 around the clock until he hit, I think 291 00:10:32,468 --> 00:10:34,088 it was, he decided he was going to reach 292 00:10:34,093 --> 00:10:36,578 50 and then he would retire and then he 293 00:10:36,578 --> 00:10:38,738 would enjoy life and spend time with his 294 00:10:38,738 --> 00:10:41,228 children and spend time with his wife. 295 00:10:41,588 --> 00:10:44,018 But over those years of him working all 296 00:10:44,018 --> 00:10:45,818 hours, not really being there at dinner 297 00:10:45,818 --> 00:10:48,308 time or for his kids' activities you 298 00:10:48,308 --> 00:10:49,808 write that the marriage broke down. 299 00:10:50,513 --> 00:10:53,393 He's now living a single life and not 300 00:10:53,393 --> 00:10:55,313 really able to see his kids as much as 301 00:10:55,313 --> 00:10:56,603 he would like and all that type of thing. 302 00:10:56,603 --> 00:10:59,513 And it's such a familiar story around 303 00:11:00,443 --> 00:11:03,563 not I think living presently in the time 304 00:11:03,563 --> 00:11:05,723 we have now and thinking, I'm gonna do 305 00:11:05,723 --> 00:11:07,943 this so that I can have that time later. 306 00:11:08,678 --> 00:11:10,598 I would love to hear for you that, 307 00:11:10,648 --> 00:11:13,018 , both of you, you've implemented these 308 00:11:13,018 --> 00:11:15,208 strategies in your book and you've 309 00:11:15,213 --> 00:11:18,478 created more of that time to do 310 00:11:18,483 --> 00:11:19,828 the things that you want to do now. 311 00:11:19,828 --> 00:11:21,568 What does that look like for both of you? 312 00:11:21,568 --> 00:11:23,548 I know that Nick, it sounds like, some 313 00:11:23,548 --> 00:11:26,248 rock climbing and abs sailing and surfing. 314 00:11:26,518 --> 00:11:27,768 Anything else that you are 315 00:11:27,773 --> 00:11:29,038 doing, just that you adore? 316 00:11:29,038 --> 00:11:30,238 And then for you Melissa, 317 00:11:30,238 --> 00:11:31,318 what that looks like as well. 318 00:11:31,348 --> 00:11:33,028 How are you choosing to spend time 319 00:11:33,033 --> 00:11:34,768 now that you've really consciously 320 00:11:34,768 --> 00:11:37,223 and intentionally created more space? 321 00:11:37,423 --> 00:11:40,663 Well, for me, Music, really music 322 00:11:40,663 --> 00:11:43,723 is almost everything I do to create 323 00:11:43,723 --> 00:11:45,403 more space, goes towards creating more 324 00:11:45,403 --> 00:11:49,243 space to, to do my music because we're 325 00:11:49,243 --> 00:11:52,993 already living a life which allows 326 00:11:52,993 --> 00:11:54,733 us to spend time in nature to be with 327 00:11:54,733 --> 00:11:56,413 our friends, to have time together. 328 00:11:56,963 --> 00:11:58,703 Not as much as we would like always. 329 00:11:58,733 --> 00:12:01,133 I mean, certainly we have to improve. 330 00:12:01,133 --> 00:12:03,353 Like anyone, you know, we, when you have 331 00:12:03,353 --> 00:12:05,183 a book launch, you know, things change, 332 00:12:05,753 --> 00:12:07,133 you know, so we have lots of interviews 333 00:12:07,133 --> 00:12:09,053 today, so things change for us today. 334 00:12:09,423 --> 00:12:11,253 But for me, and we'll talk about this 335 00:12:11,253 --> 00:12:12,753 later I'm sure, it comes down to what 336 00:12:12,758 --> 00:12:14,403 brings me the greatest sense of meaning. 337 00:12:16,158 --> 00:12:18,048 Meaning the definition of meaning is 338 00:12:18,048 --> 00:12:21,318 when you feel that you are contributing 339 00:12:21,438 --> 00:12:22,818 to something bigger than yourself. 340 00:12:23,568 --> 00:12:24,798 And to me, that's my music. 341 00:12:24,803 --> 00:12:27,408 So there's lots of things we do 342 00:12:27,618 --> 00:12:28,818 personally, which Melissa can speak 343 00:12:28,818 --> 00:12:30,558 to, but for me it's about music. 344 00:12:30,588 --> 00:12:32,478 And when I'm in that zone and I have 345 00:12:32,478 --> 00:12:33,888 no distractions and I'm writing, 346 00:12:34,578 --> 00:12:36,918 that's when I feel like I'm truly 347 00:12:36,918 --> 00:12:39,498 living my dharma, I'm here, like 348 00:12:39,498 --> 00:12:41,238 I'm really alive in those moments. 349 00:12:42,828 --> 00:12:46,068 And for me, a majority of my time 350 00:12:46,068 --> 00:12:48,648 is spent with my beautiful daughter. 351 00:12:48,708 --> 00:12:51,858 So that that is just the best. 352 00:12:51,858 --> 00:12:55,308 It lights me up so much, and 353 00:12:55,338 --> 00:12:56,748 I love just being with her. 354 00:12:56,748 --> 00:12:58,008 I love playing with her. 355 00:12:58,008 --> 00:12:59,993 I love taking her to the beach, 356 00:13:00,293 --> 00:13:02,153 going and seeing the animals, you 357 00:13:02,153 --> 00:13:03,833 know, we just have the best time. 358 00:13:03,833 --> 00:13:05,213 I love having conversations with her. 359 00:13:05,213 --> 00:13:06,443 I just love sitting with her 360 00:13:06,443 --> 00:13:08,723 and chatting whilst she eats. 361 00:13:08,753 --> 00:13:11,543 So my daughter is like my number one. 362 00:13:11,633 --> 00:13:14,628 And that's where I spend a lot of my time. 363 00:13:14,628 --> 00:13:16,368 And then also with my 364 00:13:16,368 --> 00:13:17,928 work, which I love doing. 365 00:13:17,958 --> 00:13:18,948 You know, I love my 366 00:13:18,948 --> 00:13:20,418 work, I love my podcast. 367 00:13:20,418 --> 00:13:23,878 I love my Holy Mama community, my books, 368 00:13:23,878 --> 00:13:25,498 you know, I love all of the work that I 369 00:13:25,498 --> 00:13:27,058 get to do, all of the women that I get to 370 00:13:27,058 --> 00:13:30,208 support, And then my friends, you know, 371 00:13:30,213 --> 00:13:33,958 spending time with our friends is such a 372 00:13:33,958 --> 00:13:37,438 huge priority because I love it so much. 373 00:13:37,438 --> 00:13:39,418 It makes us feel so good. 374 00:13:39,628 --> 00:13:41,278 I am a generator in human 375 00:13:41,283 --> 00:13:43,558 design, so for me, I get full 376 00:13:43,558 --> 00:13:45,448 from interactions with people. 377 00:13:45,898 --> 00:13:47,548 So we do lots of that. 378 00:13:47,553 --> 00:13:50,033 And then a lot of, you know, that time 379 00:13:50,063 --> 00:13:52,643 with our friends and with my daughter, 380 00:13:52,648 --> 00:13:54,803 our daughter, is always in nature, so 381 00:13:55,300 --> 00:13:57,930 mostly at the beach or outside at a park. 382 00:13:57,930 --> 00:14:00,030 We are always outside unless 383 00:14:00,035 --> 00:14:01,680 it is raining, we are outside. 384 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:04,200 And so that's where I spend a lot 385 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,460 of my time , and also with Nick. 386 00:14:06,465 --> 00:14:08,800 But you know, that's definitely an area 387 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:12,040 where we could improve because you know, 388 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:15,100 since having a child as you know, you 389 00:14:15,100 --> 00:14:17,940 have to be even more intentional with 390 00:14:18,970 --> 00:14:20,850 creating the space for your partner. 391 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:22,680 Like you have to be really intentional 392 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:25,020 cuz you know, everything shifts and 393 00:14:25,020 --> 00:14:27,303 you know, this whole book is about 394 00:14:28,052 --> 00:14:30,322 creating a life that is meaningful 395 00:14:30,352 --> 00:14:34,312 for you because we only get one. 396 00:14:34,725 --> 00:14:36,555 This isn't the dress rehearsal. 397 00:14:36,765 --> 00:14:38,865 You don't get to 60 then retire, 398 00:14:38,865 --> 00:14:40,155 then start living your life. 399 00:14:40,275 --> 00:14:42,345 You don't wait till Friday afternoon and 400 00:14:42,345 --> 00:14:44,415 then start living and enjoying your life. 401 00:14:44,655 --> 00:14:46,635 You enjoy your life today. 402 00:14:46,815 --> 00:14:48,675 You treat every day like a 403 00:14:48,675 --> 00:14:51,075 holiday or a vacation every day. 404 00:14:51,435 --> 00:14:53,745 So how can you bring that 405 00:14:53,745 --> 00:14:55,625 magic into your every day life? 406 00:14:55,975 --> 00:14:58,580 That time magic into your everyday 407 00:14:58,585 --> 00:15:01,860 life because we only get one and 408 00:15:01,890 --> 00:15:03,420 we don't know when it's over. 409 00:15:03,450 --> 00:15:04,350 We don't know when that 410 00:15:04,350 --> 00:15:05,820 curtain is going to come down. 411 00:15:05,820 --> 00:15:06,870 No one does. 412 00:15:06,990 --> 00:15:08,370 We don't have a crystal ball. 413 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:10,560 We don't know when the people in our life, 414 00:15:11,130 --> 00:15:13,140 when their curtain is going to come down. 415 00:15:13,260 --> 00:15:15,510 We may only have one or two more 416 00:15:15,510 --> 00:15:17,310 Christmases with our parents. 417 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:19,990 You know, like we don't actually know. 418 00:15:20,290 --> 00:15:22,660 And so all of this stuff like was just 419 00:15:22,660 --> 00:15:26,665 so at the forefront of our mind and we 420 00:15:26,665 --> 00:15:28,615 were like, how are we living our life? 421 00:15:28,615 --> 00:15:30,205 Like we needed to make some really big 422 00:15:30,205 --> 00:15:31,795 changes when we first got together, 423 00:15:31,795 --> 00:15:33,955 and this is why this book was born. 424 00:15:34,015 --> 00:15:36,265 And because so many of our friends kept 425 00:15:36,265 --> 00:15:40,060 on saying to us, how do you do it all? 426 00:15:40,300 --> 00:15:43,960 How do you have thriving careers and a 427 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:45,940 thriving family and still have time to 428 00:15:45,940 --> 00:15:48,100 go to the beach for an hour every day? 429 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:50,200 Like how do you do it all? 430 00:15:50,620 --> 00:15:52,600 And we share everything in the book. 431 00:15:52,605 --> 00:15:55,480 And healthy boundaries is a huge part. 432 00:15:55,990 --> 00:15:57,580 And also discipline, you know, 433 00:15:57,580 --> 00:15:59,500 discipline and consistency. 434 00:15:59,650 --> 00:16:01,660 They play a huge role as well. 435 00:16:01,660 --> 00:16:05,260 But you know, life is so precious and we 436 00:16:05,260 --> 00:16:08,280 need to live every day like it's the best 437 00:16:08,515 --> 00:16:10,555 day ever because it is the best day ever. 438 00:16:10,808 --> 00:16:12,188 I did one of the activities in your 439 00:16:12,188 --> 00:16:14,091 book around writing out what you are 440 00:16:14,091 --> 00:16:15,771 prioritizing, and then also what you want 441 00:16:15,776 --> 00:16:17,091 to prioritize and what makes you happy. 442 00:16:17,091 --> 00:16:19,431 And I realized making my son 443 00:16:19,431 --> 00:16:21,411 giggle is just if I can do that 444 00:16:21,416 --> 00:16:23,451 every day, oh, that is a good day. 445 00:16:23,461 --> 00:16:25,141 Yeah, if I can make time for that, that 446 00:16:25,141 --> 00:16:27,091 is just what brings me so much joy. 447 00:16:27,091 --> 00:16:28,796 And I think, um, just being in the 448 00:16:29,646 --> 00:16:32,221 moment with him and being silly. 449 00:16:32,271 --> 00:16:33,561 * That's been really fun now 450 00:16:33,561 --> 00:16:35,001 that I have a, a child it's 451 00:16:35,001 --> 00:16:36,141 kind of brought that out to me. 452 00:16:36,141 --> 00:16:37,761 And I love both of your funny videos 453 00:16:37,761 --> 00:16:38,931 that you do, and I'm sure a lot 454 00:16:38,931 --> 00:16:40,161 goes on behind the scenes where 455 00:16:40,341 --> 00:16:42,021 you're just being goofy and laughing 456 00:16:42,026 --> 00:16:44,691 and just, um, enjoying the moment. 457 00:16:45,141 --> 00:16:48,321 I would love to ask how you went 458 00:16:48,321 --> 00:16:51,231 about creating time, making time 459 00:16:51,231 --> 00:16:52,581 to actually write this book. 460 00:16:52,581 --> 00:16:53,511 What did that practically 461 00:16:53,511 --> 00:16:54,261 look like for you? 462 00:16:54,266 --> 00:16:55,551 it's no small task. 463 00:16:55,881 --> 00:16:56,361 How did you. 464 00:16:56,471 --> 00:16:56,741 make that work? 465 00:16:56,741 --> 00:16:57,801 Well it's It's interesting 466 00:16:57,801 --> 00:16:59,511 because this book initially 467 00:16:59,511 --> 00:17:00,861 had a totally different title. 468 00:17:01,281 --> 00:17:03,261 We wrote 80,000 words 469 00:17:03,261 --> 00:17:04,721 of it, four years ago. 470 00:17:05,251 --> 00:17:07,081 There was probably 50% of it was in there. 471 00:17:07,081 --> 00:17:08,671 I would say 40, 50%. 472 00:17:09,161 --> 00:17:10,271 but it had a different sort 473 00:17:10,271 --> 00:17:11,441 of message, a different angle. 474 00:17:11,801 --> 00:17:15,011 And then Covid, good 475 00:17:15,011 --> 00:17:16,121 old covid comes around. 476 00:17:17,141 --> 00:17:18,476 And we just sort of had this, 477 00:17:18,476 --> 00:17:19,616 or Melissa had this intuition 478 00:17:19,621 --> 00:17:20,906 that this was not the next book. 479 00:17:20,906 --> 00:17:23,726 And she said about writing comparisonitis. 480 00:17:24,326 --> 00:17:26,156 And um, of course during Covid there 481 00:17:26,156 --> 00:17:28,346 was this huge spike in obviously 482 00:17:28,376 --> 00:17:30,866 device usage and social media. 483 00:17:30,866 --> 00:17:32,516 So it was an important time for 484 00:17:32,516 --> 00:17:34,426 comparisonitis to come out and 485 00:17:34,426 --> 00:17:35,986 so we put this on ice basically. 486 00:17:36,076 --> 00:17:38,416 And it was interesting during covid, 487 00:17:39,016 --> 00:17:41,626 the sales in the personal development of 488 00:17:41,626 --> 00:17:43,726 self-help books really went down quite 489 00:17:43,726 --> 00:17:45,976 a lot and fiction went through the roof 490 00:17:45,981 --> 00:17:48,256 cause people were wanting an escape. 491 00:17:48,326 --> 00:17:48,386 Yeah. 492 00:17:48,386 --> 00:17:49,846 You know, which is fair enough, I 493 00:17:49,846 --> 00:17:50,866 was reading fiction during Covid. 494 00:17:51,536 --> 00:17:53,456 And he's never really read fiction 495 00:17:53,456 --> 00:17:55,226 so that, you know, we are all 496 00:17:55,226 --> 00:17:57,986 about mindset and entrepreneurship 497 00:17:57,986 --> 00:17:59,246 and personal development. 498 00:17:59,246 --> 00:18:00,776 So for him to kind of go, Hmm, I 499 00:18:00,776 --> 00:18:02,486 wanna read fiction, I was like, wow. 500 00:18:02,550 --> 00:18:03,736 It also inspired me to 501 00:18:03,736 --> 00:18:04,756 write a fiction novel. 502 00:18:04,756 --> 00:18:06,019 So I wrote a fiction novel which 503 00:18:06,059 --> 00:18:09,319 is based on journal entries that 504 00:18:09,319 --> 00:18:10,669 we kept at the beginning of our 505 00:18:10,669 --> 00:18:12,409 relationship and I fictionalized it. 506 00:18:12,989 --> 00:18:15,509 But it's kind of A star is born mixed 507 00:18:15,514 --> 00:18:17,699 with 50 shades of gray and a bit 508 00:18:17,699 --> 00:18:20,129 of celestine prophecy or something. 509 00:18:20,609 --> 00:18:21,329 It's pretty cool. 510 00:18:21,329 --> 00:18:23,039 And so that's the next book. 511 00:18:23,094 --> 00:18:25,574 So then, our publisher reached 512 00:18:25,574 --> 00:18:27,434 out and said, what's happening with 513 00:18:27,434 --> 00:18:29,444 that book we signed four years ago? 514 00:18:29,444 --> 00:18:31,484 You know, and we're like, 515 00:18:31,484 --> 00:18:33,854 well what do you think? 516 00:18:33,854 --> 00:18:35,204 They said, we think it's great timing. 517 00:18:35,204 --> 00:18:36,494 So we sort of sat down and went 518 00:18:36,494 --> 00:18:37,694 through it again and realized, 519 00:18:38,084 --> 00:18:39,754 oh, it's mostly there, but we 520 00:18:39,754 --> 00:18:42,184 now see what this book is about. 521 00:18:42,189 --> 00:18:43,504 And then the title came to 522 00:18:43,504 --> 00:18:44,764 us, which is Time Magic. 523 00:18:45,074 --> 00:18:45,794 It was actually called 524 00:18:45,799 --> 00:18:47,474 79 Marbles before that. 525 00:18:48,144 --> 00:18:49,854 It's a totally different sort of concept. 526 00:18:49,934 --> 00:18:51,554 So, yeah, that's how the book came about. 527 00:18:51,554 --> 00:18:53,744 And in terms of creating space for it, as 528 00:18:53,744 --> 00:18:55,424 I said, we had a lot of it written and we 529 00:18:55,424 --> 00:18:57,434 had to sit down and kind of rewrite it. 530 00:18:57,434 --> 00:18:59,354 So it was almost like starting from 531 00:18:59,354 --> 00:19:00,734 scratch, even though we had a lot of it 532 00:19:00,734 --> 00:19:03,884 already, and we did it in our own time. 533 00:19:03,889 --> 00:19:04,874 We had deadlines. 534 00:19:05,084 --> 00:19:06,974 Melissa always hits her deadlines early. 535 00:19:07,334 --> 00:19:08,924 I hit it right on the day 536 00:19:08,954 --> 00:19:10,094 because that's how I operate. 537 00:19:10,293 --> 00:19:11,613 But we're really proud of it. 538 00:19:11,613 --> 00:19:13,143 You know, it was, it was a big effort, 539 00:19:13,143 --> 00:19:14,853 but it came out very well we think. 540 00:19:15,003 --> 00:19:17,133 And I think, you know, I got this 541 00:19:17,133 --> 00:19:19,593 huge download that Comparisonitis 542 00:19:19,593 --> 00:19:23,253 was next, and I called my publisher 543 00:19:23,253 --> 00:19:25,323 and I was like we can't do this one. 544 00:19:25,323 --> 00:19:26,493 And, and they were like, why? 545 00:19:26,493 --> 00:19:28,023 And I was like, you just have to trust me. 546 00:19:28,053 --> 00:19:30,213 Like my intuition is saying no. 547 00:19:30,273 --> 00:19:31,773 And so they were like, okay. 548 00:19:31,773 --> 00:19:32,733 And cause I've done all 549 00:19:32,733 --> 00:19:33,603 of my books with them. 550 00:19:33,603 --> 00:19:34,653 They're incredible. 551 00:19:34,743 --> 00:19:36,063 Harper Collins in Australia, 552 00:19:36,063 --> 00:19:37,353 they're just the best ever. 553 00:19:37,473 --> 00:19:41,763 And so we put that on ice like Nick said. 554 00:19:42,123 --> 00:19:45,033 And I truly believe that another 555 00:19:45,033 --> 00:19:48,933 reason why Time Magic wanted to come 556 00:19:48,933 --> 00:19:51,333 out now as opposed to a few years ago. 557 00:19:52,098 --> 00:19:53,898 Not only, you know, covid, but 558 00:19:53,898 --> 00:19:56,868 because it needed for me to ride 559 00:19:56,868 --> 00:19:58,368 it from the lens of a mother. 560 00:19:58,908 --> 00:20:00,618 And I wasn't yet a mother 561 00:20:01,128 --> 00:20:02,828 and I was a step mumma. 562 00:20:02,888 --> 00:20:05,108 Which is very different to being a mother, 563 00:20:05,108 --> 00:20:06,698 especially to a mother of a newborn. 564 00:20:07,088 --> 00:20:09,698 And so I feel like Time Magic was 565 00:20:09,698 --> 00:20:12,488 like, go and become a mother and 566 00:20:12,488 --> 00:20:14,588 then write from that perspective. 567 00:20:14,678 --> 00:20:16,758 And so, yeah, you know, like that 568 00:20:17,798 --> 00:20:19,443 is put through the whole book. 569 00:20:19,533 --> 00:20:21,243 Which is so important because it's 570 00:20:21,243 --> 00:20:24,453 very different for someone to, you 571 00:20:24,453 --> 00:20:26,453 know, talk about time, who doesn't 572 00:20:26,453 --> 00:20:28,853 have children and yeah, it's a 573 00:20:28,858 --> 00:20:30,203 different perspective, you know? 574 00:20:30,632 --> 00:20:32,222 That leads me to my next question, 575 00:20:32,222 --> 00:20:33,812 Melissa, cuz it is a whole new way of, 576 00:20:33,842 --> 00:20:36,452 of, uh, figuring out life hey, when you 577 00:20:36,457 --> 00:20:41,467 do have a a bub, a kid and they like bring 578 00:20:41,617 --> 00:20:45,717 so much joy and they need so much time and 579 00:20:45,717 --> 00:20:47,577 we want to spend so much time with them. 580 00:20:47,877 --> 00:20:49,597 I was listening to a podcast for your 581 00:20:49,597 --> 00:20:52,357 500 episodes podcast that you both did 582 00:20:52,357 --> 00:20:53,947 and you shared on there a little bit 583 00:20:53,947 --> 00:20:56,637 about, I think just that readjustment 584 00:20:56,637 --> 00:21:00,537 into you used to get so much done and 585 00:21:00,567 --> 00:21:02,787 seek productivity and be able to do so 586 00:21:02,787 --> 00:21:05,997 many things, just the realization and the 587 00:21:05,997 --> 00:21:08,877 adjustment to Okay, right now I've got 588 00:21:08,877 --> 00:21:11,517 to be kind to myself, I think, and look 589 00:21:11,517 --> 00:21:13,917 at resetting my own expectations that 590 00:21:13,917 --> 00:21:16,647 I'm only putting on myself in the more 591 00:21:16,647 --> 00:21:18,777 limited hours that I have for my work. 592 00:21:19,347 --> 00:21:21,697 I would love you to share, what that 593 00:21:21,697 --> 00:21:25,617 work schedule looks like now in terms 594 00:21:25,617 --> 00:21:28,557 of how you are making that part of your 595 00:21:28,557 --> 00:21:30,487 day or part of . Your week and just 596 00:21:30,492 --> 00:21:31,627 what's working for you now in terms of 597 00:21:31,627 --> 00:21:31,717 that? 598 00:21:31,717 --> 00:21:31,777 I'm 599 00:21:32,147 --> 00:21:35,513 Still to figure it out babes. 600 00:21:35,543 --> 00:21:38,843 You know, I'm, I am definitely not, 601 00:21:39,113 --> 00:21:40,943 there's no such thing as perfect, 602 00:21:40,943 --> 00:21:42,773 and I always talk about this in 603 00:21:42,833 --> 00:21:44,933 all of my books, all of my work. 604 00:21:44,933 --> 00:21:46,783 There's no such thing as the 605 00:21:46,788 --> 00:21:50,063 perfect day, the perfect routine, 606 00:21:50,063 --> 00:21:52,043 the perfect work schedule. 607 00:21:52,793 --> 00:21:55,163 It's all perfect and it's all not perfect. 608 00:21:55,223 --> 00:21:57,663 And so, I think one of the biggest 609 00:21:57,663 --> 00:22:01,911 things for mothers is to readjust 610 00:22:01,916 --> 00:22:04,421 your expectation on yourself when 611 00:22:04,426 --> 00:22:06,371 it comes to the amount of work that 612 00:22:06,371 --> 00:22:07,991 you can get done in one day, or 613 00:22:07,991 --> 00:22:09,671 that you do get done in one day. 614 00:22:09,941 --> 00:22:11,771 So what happens is when I finally went 615 00:22:11,771 --> 00:22:14,951 back to work after a year off, I still 616 00:22:14,951 --> 00:22:17,411 had that same expectation on myself 617 00:22:17,416 --> 00:22:19,511 to do and achieve and work the same 618 00:22:19,511 --> 00:22:22,391 way like I was before I had Bambi. 619 00:22:22,601 --> 00:22:24,941 And that is absolutely 620 00:22:25,286 --> 00:22:27,036 ludicrous and not possible. 621 00:22:27,056 --> 00:22:30,506 And so I've had to reprogram 622 00:22:30,656 --> 00:22:33,026 my expectation on myself, be 623 00:22:33,031 --> 00:22:36,196 kinder and literally rewire how 624 00:22:36,196 --> 00:22:38,621 I think about achievement and 625 00:22:38,621 --> 00:22:40,331 success and all of those things. 626 00:22:40,331 --> 00:22:42,131 And it's been huge. 627 00:22:42,131 --> 00:22:44,351 You know, that transition from Maiden to 628 00:22:44,351 --> 00:22:46,961 Mother, which we call Matresence, and I 629 00:22:46,961 --> 00:22:49,601 talk about this in Holy Mama, my program. 630 00:22:49,931 --> 00:22:54,221 It is such a huge transition and it is 631 00:22:54,221 --> 00:22:57,341 definitely not given enough support. 632 00:22:57,341 --> 00:22:59,884 It's not given enough airtime. 633 00:23:00,529 --> 00:23:02,239 You know, out there, it's, it's 634 00:23:02,239 --> 00:23:05,659 such a huge transition and we 635 00:23:05,659 --> 00:23:07,129 need to support women who are 636 00:23:07,129 --> 00:23:08,389 going through that transition. 637 00:23:08,509 --> 00:23:11,689 And so it's about constantly shifting 638 00:23:11,689 --> 00:23:12,919 and finding what works for you. 639 00:23:12,919 --> 00:23:15,049 And, and we are always doing that. 640 00:23:15,139 --> 00:23:17,569 And as the children get older and older, 641 00:23:17,574 --> 00:23:20,179 like you will have to keep transitioning 642 00:23:20,179 --> 00:23:22,669 and have to keep shifting things and 643 00:23:22,669 --> 00:23:25,643 going, okay, well she's okay to have more 644 00:23:25,643 --> 00:23:28,143 time with her nanny, or whatever it is. 645 00:23:28,553 --> 00:23:30,893 So it's about constantly tuning 646 00:23:30,923 --> 00:23:34,553 in and checking in and readjusting 647 00:23:34,853 --> 00:23:36,683 with when your children grow. 648 00:23:37,143 --> 00:23:38,733 And I think for me it's like 649 00:23:39,663 --> 00:23:41,966 Monday to Friday, you know, I get a 650 00:23:41,966 --> 00:23:44,336 section of time to work and, and the 651 00:23:44,336 --> 00:23:47,576 other times I am present with her. 652 00:23:47,636 --> 00:23:50,516 You know, I try very hard 653 00:23:50,516 --> 00:23:51,626 not to touch my phone. 654 00:23:51,626 --> 00:23:54,116 I don't ever take calls when I'm with her. 655 00:23:54,656 --> 00:23:56,426 The only time I really touch my 656 00:23:56,426 --> 00:23:58,346 phone when I'm with her is to put 657 00:23:58,351 --> 00:24:01,016 on music and it's very important. 658 00:24:01,021 --> 00:24:02,546 And if I do need to do something, 659 00:24:02,551 --> 00:24:03,866 like I'll say, Nick, I need to 660 00:24:03,866 --> 00:24:05,966 quickly go send an email in my office. 661 00:24:05,966 --> 00:24:07,016 Can you please just take 662 00:24:07,016 --> 00:24:08,546 her for a couple of minutes? 663 00:24:08,966 --> 00:24:10,826 But it's really important to me that 664 00:24:10,826 --> 00:24:12,176 when I'm with her, I'm with her. 665 00:24:12,176 --> 00:24:13,706 And when I'm working, I'm working. 666 00:24:14,221 --> 00:24:16,591 And being really kind and gentle to 667 00:24:16,591 --> 00:24:18,781 myself and soft and readjusting my 668 00:24:18,781 --> 00:24:22,411 expectations has been huge for me. 669 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:23,990 And yourself. 670 00:24:23,990 --> 00:24:25,300 Nick, what's it look like for you? 671 00:24:25,971 --> 00:24:26,217 Yeah. 672 00:24:26,217 --> 00:24:27,327 I think for me it's a bit 673 00:24:27,327 --> 00:24:28,887 different because there's 674 00:24:28,887 --> 00:24:31,167 less need on me from Bambi. 675 00:24:31,857 --> 00:24:32,727 That's more placed on 676 00:24:32,727 --> 00:24:34,077 Melissa at this sort of age. 677 00:24:34,977 --> 00:24:36,837 So it hasn't changed a whole lot for me. 678 00:24:36,897 --> 00:24:38,727 I would just in general, I just think 679 00:24:38,727 --> 00:24:40,617 that my life's a lot richer because 680 00:24:40,622 --> 00:24:43,842 when I do come out from my office and I 681 00:24:43,842 --> 00:24:46,902 have this beautiful little fairy fairy 682 00:24:47,292 --> 00:24:49,362 running around, naked eating watermelon 683 00:24:49,362 --> 00:24:50,802 or something, you know, like, and it's 684 00:24:50,802 --> 00:24:54,132 just, it just makes life so much richer. 685 00:24:54,222 --> 00:24:56,352 And you know, I've got a 17 year 686 00:24:56,352 --> 00:24:58,212 old son, which still amazes me, 687 00:24:58,212 --> 00:24:59,472 Ashley, when, when I say that. 688 00:24:59,500 --> 00:25:01,540 And he's in his final year of school 689 00:25:01,540 --> 00:25:04,040 and you know, he'll be out in the, in 690 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:05,690 the wild world doing his own thing. 691 00:25:05,740 --> 00:25:06,820 Which is just incredible. 692 00:25:06,850 --> 00:25:08,650 So I don't think it's 693 00:25:08,650 --> 00:25:09,940 changed a lot to be honest. 694 00:25:09,990 --> 00:25:12,360 But what has become very apparent to me 695 00:25:12,360 --> 00:25:16,323 is I want more children because why not 696 00:25:16,323 --> 00:25:18,423 amplify, multiply the feeling you have. 697 00:25:18,573 --> 00:25:20,673 I mean, it's so beautiful having 698 00:25:21,183 --> 00:25:22,953 children in your life and having family. 699 00:25:22,953 --> 00:25:25,113 And I don't, I don't wanna say 700 00:25:25,113 --> 00:25:26,823 the older you get, but the older 701 00:25:26,823 --> 00:25:27,993 you get, the more years you live, 702 00:25:27,993 --> 00:25:30,813 you realise what else is there? 703 00:25:30,873 --> 00:25:32,253 You know, like there is meaning, 704 00:25:32,253 --> 00:25:33,543 of course there is dharma. 705 00:25:33,543 --> 00:25:34,773 All these things are important, 706 00:25:35,463 --> 00:25:37,383 but ultimately spending time with 707 00:25:37,383 --> 00:25:40,383 the people you love is number one. 708 00:25:40,683 --> 00:25:42,843 And you don't love anyone, like 709 00:25:42,848 --> 00:25:44,043 you love your own children. 710 00:25:44,793 --> 00:25:46,173 So I'm pretty excited 711 00:25:46,173 --> 00:25:47,573 to explore having more. 712 00:25:49,398 --> 00:25:52,338 Definitely, definitely is 713 00:25:52,338 --> 00:25:53,838 definitely on the cards. 714 00:25:53,838 --> 00:25:54,978 Absolutely. 715 00:25:55,038 --> 00:25:57,888 And I truly feel like it's my 716 00:25:57,888 --> 00:26:00,348 most important work, you know? 717 00:26:00,348 --> 00:26:01,128 Yes. 718 00:26:01,128 --> 00:26:04,578 Books and podcasts and supporting all 719 00:26:04,583 --> 00:26:06,378 of the women that, that I support. 720 00:26:06,378 --> 00:26:07,668 And Nick with his music and 721 00:26:07,668 --> 00:26:08,958 everything that he does. 722 00:26:09,348 --> 00:26:11,868 Yes that is all so important and, and 723 00:26:11,868 --> 00:26:15,108 brings us so much joy, but ultimately 724 00:26:15,318 --> 00:26:20,748 my most job is raising my daughter, 725 00:26:21,768 --> 00:26:24,078 and if I'm not doing a good job there, 726 00:26:24,078 --> 00:26:27,728 if I'm, just not present, overwhelmed, 727 00:26:27,733 --> 00:26:31,448 stressed, angry, reactive, then I'm 728 00:26:31,478 --> 00:26:34,538 totally missing the point of life. 729 00:26:34,958 --> 00:26:39,428 And so that's where the deep work happens. 730 00:26:39,488 --> 00:26:42,458 You know, right there in our four walls. 731 00:26:42,953 --> 00:26:44,153 That is the most important 732 00:26:44,153 --> 00:26:46,043 work in our four walls. 733 00:26:46,712 --> 00:26:48,569 Last couple of questions for you both. 734 00:26:48,632 --> 00:26:50,252 People have to read the book to get all 735 00:26:50,252 --> 00:26:52,802 the incredible insights and tips and 736 00:26:52,802 --> 00:26:54,899 tricks, but if there were just three tips 737 00:26:55,019 --> 00:26:56,129 that you could give to someone that's 738 00:26:56,129 --> 00:27:00,194 listening and thinking, this is really 739 00:27:00,194 --> 00:27:03,704 calling to me to find, create more time 740 00:27:03,704 --> 00:27:06,524 for being there with my kids or my family 741 00:27:06,524 --> 00:27:08,684 or travel or looking after and being there 742 00:27:08,684 --> 00:27:10,664 with my aging grandparents or what or my 743 00:27:10,664 --> 00:27:12,434 health, whatever it looks like to them. 744 00:27:12,944 --> 00:27:15,224 What are three of your favorite 745 00:27:15,254 --> 00:27:16,904 ways to get started now? 746 00:27:17,270 --> 00:27:19,460 I'll start with a little micro strategy. 747 00:27:19,940 --> 00:27:23,120 Something which is, it may seem small, 748 00:27:23,810 --> 00:27:26,030 but it's these little things that you do 749 00:27:26,465 --> 00:27:28,535 in the book, when you add them all up is 750 00:27:28,535 --> 00:27:30,605 where you start to get a lot of time back. 751 00:27:31,325 --> 00:27:33,575 And one of those is just an app which we 752 00:27:33,635 --> 00:27:35,705 absolutely swear by, which you would've 753 00:27:35,705 --> 00:27:37,505 read in the book called One Password. 754 00:27:38,405 --> 00:27:40,175 And I dunno how people 755 00:27:40,175 --> 00:27:41,675 live without one password. 756 00:27:41,735 --> 00:27:43,655 Now to be clear, it's, it doesn't 757 00:27:43,655 --> 00:27:44,735 mean you have one password. 758 00:27:44,740 --> 00:27:45,335 If everything. 759 00:27:45,965 --> 00:27:47,465 It just is this vault, which 760 00:27:47,465 --> 00:27:49,235 captures every single login, all 761 00:27:49,235 --> 00:27:50,405 your credit card details, your 762 00:27:50,905 --> 00:27:52,565 passports, your software licenses. 763 00:27:53,015 --> 00:27:54,515 You know, just kind of your 764 00:27:54,515 --> 00:27:55,835 entire life is in this thing. 765 00:27:55,835 --> 00:27:57,185 It's fully encrypted, it's never 766 00:27:57,185 --> 00:27:59,915 been hacked, and it just means that 767 00:27:59,915 --> 00:28:01,715 when you do have to buy something or 768 00:28:01,715 --> 00:28:03,215 you do need some sort of information 769 00:28:03,215 --> 00:28:04,775 or you need to log into a website, 770 00:28:04,985 --> 00:28:06,965 it's just instant click of a button. 771 00:28:07,265 --> 00:28:08,795 And how much time, if you add 772 00:28:08,795 --> 00:28:10,955 it up over a lifetime, do we 773 00:28:10,955 --> 00:28:13,115 spend searching for passwords? 774 00:28:13,195 --> 00:28:16,375 There's probably 40, 50 days maybe of just 775 00:28:16,375 --> 00:28:17,905 stuffing around looking for these things. 776 00:28:18,175 --> 00:28:20,095 And not only that, then like clicking 777 00:28:20,095 --> 00:28:21,655 forget password, then you've gotta go 778 00:28:21,655 --> 00:28:23,125 to your email and then you've gotta 779 00:28:23,125 --> 00:28:24,535 wait for the email to come in, and 780 00:28:24,540 --> 00:28:26,235 then you've gotta reset your password. 781 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,405 So yeah, add up all of 782 00:28:28,405 --> 00:28:29,845 that over a lifetime. 783 00:28:29,905 --> 00:28:31,355 And it's just a waste of time. 784 00:28:32,135 --> 00:28:33,245 And I think it bubbles up that 785 00:28:33,245 --> 00:28:34,565 frustration hey, as well, which 786 00:28:34,565 --> 00:28:36,005 Isn't, isn't really the energy 787 00:28:36,005 --> 00:28:36,925 we wanna be having with us in our 788 00:28:37,075 --> 00:28:37,135 day. 789 00:28:37,135 --> 00:28:37,930 No, and I think as well, just 790 00:28:37,930 --> 00:28:39,250 to add to that, um, one of the 791 00:28:39,250 --> 00:28:40,480 reasons these little things are 792 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,490 important is, for example, security. 793 00:28:42,940 --> 00:28:44,650 Now we dunno how it happened, but we 794 00:28:44,650 --> 00:28:46,510 had a massive Facebook hack recently 795 00:28:46,870 --> 00:28:48,760 where both of our pages were stolen. 796 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:49,900 We had thousands of 797 00:28:49,900 --> 00:28:51,040 thousands of dollars stolen. 798 00:28:51,530 --> 00:28:53,630 , it's been eight weeks now and Facebook 799 00:28:53,635 --> 00:28:55,040 still haven't given our pages back. 800 00:28:55,500 --> 00:28:57,630 Shame on you meta we're, you know, 801 00:28:57,630 --> 00:28:59,580 it's just like criminal the way that 802 00:28:59,670 --> 00:29:00,960 they've treated us, to be honest. 803 00:29:02,144 --> 00:29:03,554 Even though we have the best security 804 00:29:03,554 --> 00:29:04,664 that we think, we feel like we 805 00:29:04,664 --> 00:29:07,004 do, somehow it still got hacked. 806 00:29:07,004 --> 00:29:09,134 So it just goes to show the importance 807 00:29:09,164 --> 00:29:11,894 of having amazing digital hygiene. 808 00:29:12,224 --> 00:29:13,574 Cuz somewhere along the line 809 00:29:13,664 --> 00:29:15,374 something happened and someone got in. 810 00:29:15,374 --> 00:29:16,724 Now it just, maybe it's just a very, 811 00:29:16,729 --> 00:29:18,014 very smart hacker, I don't know. 812 00:29:18,734 --> 00:29:20,384 But two-factor authentication on 813 00:29:20,384 --> 00:29:22,274 everything these days is so important. 814 00:29:22,574 --> 00:29:24,494 And in one password you can literally 815 00:29:24,494 --> 00:29:26,984 scan those QR codes and it, and 816 00:29:26,984 --> 00:29:28,304 it will save that information. 817 00:29:28,309 --> 00:29:29,894 So next time you need to enter a six 818 00:29:29,894 --> 00:29:31,334 digit thing to get into something. 819 00:29:32,264 --> 00:29:33,509 Puts it in automatically for you. 820 00:29:33,989 --> 00:29:35,459 So these little things 821 00:29:35,459 --> 00:29:36,179 are really important. 822 00:29:36,179 --> 00:29:37,409 So that's one. 823 00:29:37,409 --> 00:29:39,179 What's one of your top tips, baby? 824 00:29:39,602 --> 00:29:39,692 I 825 00:29:39,692 --> 00:29:42,902 think one of my favorite ones in the 826 00:29:42,902 --> 00:29:48,752 book is actually looking at where 827 00:29:48,752 --> 00:29:50,702 you're spending your time digitally. 828 00:29:50,822 --> 00:29:54,632 And you can do that on your phone and 829 00:29:54,632 --> 00:29:57,422 you can look at what apps you're using, 830 00:29:57,759 --> 00:29:58,929 like where you're spending your time. 831 00:29:58,929 --> 00:30:01,509 And I think most people don't do that 832 00:30:01,509 --> 00:30:03,129 because they don't wanna know the answer 833 00:30:03,423 --> 00:30:03,873 Yep. 834 00:30:03,873 --> 00:30:05,163 I saw mine pop up the other day 835 00:30:05,163 --> 00:30:06,543 without me wanting to see it. 836 00:30:06,543 --> 00:30:07,863 And I'm like, oh, wow. 837 00:30:07,863 --> 00:30:09,083 How did that add up? 838 00:30:09,083 --> 00:30:10,299 I know, right? 839 00:30:11,049 --> 00:30:12,729 It's shocking and embarrassing. 840 00:30:13,914 --> 00:30:16,014 Like really, it's, it's, yeah. 841 00:30:16,044 --> 00:30:17,514 For me anyway, I'll speak from 842 00:30:17,514 --> 00:30:18,684 my own personal experience. 843 00:30:19,224 --> 00:30:22,224 So I think when we look at the actual 844 00:30:22,229 --> 00:30:24,684 data and go, okay, I'm spending 845 00:30:25,284 --> 00:30:27,564 five hours on Instagram a day. 846 00:30:27,654 --> 00:30:28,434 Wow. 847 00:30:28,684 --> 00:30:29,174 Okay. 848 00:30:29,604 --> 00:30:30,094 Okay. 849 00:30:30,624 --> 00:30:31,854 Something needs to shift here. 850 00:30:32,124 --> 00:30:35,724 So looking at the actual data and then 851 00:30:36,444 --> 00:30:39,384 asking yourself, am I okay with this? 852 00:30:40,704 --> 00:30:42,144 When I put my head on my pillow 853 00:30:42,144 --> 00:30:44,784 at night, am I okay with where 854 00:30:44,784 --> 00:30:47,484 my precious time was spent today? 855 00:30:47,884 --> 00:30:51,294 And so if not, do something about it. 856 00:30:51,864 --> 00:30:52,554 You know, there's so many 857 00:30:52,554 --> 00:30:53,214 things that you can do. 858 00:30:53,214 --> 00:30:55,014 You can put limits on different 859 00:30:55,014 --> 00:30:56,124 apps and things like that. 860 00:30:56,124 --> 00:30:58,164 There's so many things you can do, but for 861 00:30:58,164 --> 00:31:01,974 me, that is a really big one and a very 862 00:31:01,974 --> 00:31:03,984 low hanging fruit for a lot of people. 863 00:31:05,154 --> 00:31:05,334 Yeah. 864 00:31:05,334 --> 00:31:07,194 And so I'll say the third one would 865 00:31:07,454 --> 00:31:10,389 be, the chapter on Everyday Longevity. 866 00:31:11,769 --> 00:31:13,119 This was the one I loved writing 867 00:31:13,119 --> 00:31:15,249 the most, to be honest and it, it 868 00:31:15,249 --> 00:31:16,419 looks quite different and we had 869 00:31:16,419 --> 00:31:17,889 to actually reduce it quite a lot. 870 00:31:17,919 --> 00:31:19,509 There was a whole section on the 871 00:31:19,509 --> 00:31:21,309 environment originally in the book. 872 00:31:21,593 --> 00:31:22,943 I was making the point that, 873 00:31:23,033 --> 00:31:25,133 okay, cool so we're, we're now 874 00:31:25,133 --> 00:31:26,273 making the most of our time. 875 00:31:26,273 --> 00:31:27,653 We've reclaimed in this book 876 00:31:27,653 --> 00:31:29,423 you can reclaim up to 16 years. 877 00:31:29,428 --> 00:31:30,293 That's our promise to you. 878 00:31:30,293 --> 00:31:31,643 Just by implementing what we talk 879 00:31:31,643 --> 00:31:33,023 about in the book, which is incredible. 880 00:31:33,023 --> 00:31:33,353 Right? 881 00:31:33,713 --> 00:31:34,343 16 years. 882 00:31:34,343 --> 00:31:35,393 What's that worth to you? 883 00:31:35,603 --> 00:31:39,148 It's worth, it's priceless and then we 884 00:31:39,148 --> 00:31:40,948 teach you how to actually live longer. 885 00:31:41,068 --> 00:31:42,958 That's the point of everyday longevity. 886 00:31:43,018 --> 00:31:44,938 And for one of these activities or 887 00:31:44,938 --> 00:31:46,768 strategies to make it into that chapter, 888 00:31:47,008 --> 00:31:48,478 it had to meet certain criteria. 889 00:31:48,478 --> 00:31:50,188 It had to be either free to do 890 00:31:50,188 --> 00:31:51,778 or very cheap and accessible, 891 00:31:52,108 --> 00:31:54,238 scientifically proven, very effective. 892 00:31:54,718 --> 00:31:58,258 And we can now using the strategies 893 00:31:58,258 --> 00:31:59,938 and time magic, get the time back, 894 00:32:00,538 --> 00:32:02,158 spend more time doing things we love 895 00:32:02,158 --> 00:32:04,823 and now, Add more time onto our life. 896 00:32:05,243 --> 00:32:06,833 And again, what's that worth to you? 897 00:32:06,893 --> 00:32:07,913 What's an extra year 898 00:32:07,913 --> 00:32:09,353 or two years, 10 years? 899 00:32:09,353 --> 00:32:10,253 What's that worth to you? 900 00:32:10,493 --> 00:32:12,383 And it can be done by following those 901 00:32:12,383 --> 00:32:16,298 strategies in that chapter and telling. 902 00:32:16,418 --> 00:32:17,408 She's tapping me on the bottom, 903 00:32:17,408 --> 00:32:18,398 so she wants to say something. 904 00:32:18,558 --> 00:32:21,698 I was just gonna add to, that, you know 905 00:32:21,788 --> 00:32:24,038 the book is about reclaiming your time, 906 00:32:24,038 --> 00:32:27,008 adding 16 years to your life if you follow 907 00:32:27,428 --> 00:32:29,978 the steps that we talk about in the book. 908 00:32:30,218 --> 00:32:32,438 But there's no point in adding years to 909 00:32:32,438 --> 00:32:34,008 your life if you don't have your health. 910 00:32:35,013 --> 00:32:36,543 Your physical and your mental health. 911 00:32:36,543 --> 00:32:39,693 So that's why the everyday longevity and 912 00:32:39,693 --> 00:32:41,883 all of the health hacks were put inside 913 00:32:41,883 --> 00:32:44,583 the book because we want you to live long, 914 00:32:44,913 --> 00:32:48,873 meaningful, happy, and healthy lives. 915 00:32:49,203 --> 00:32:50,793 I want to be, I was saying 916 00:32:50,793 --> 00:32:52,023 this in an interview yesterday. 917 00:32:52,023 --> 00:32:53,423 I want to be doing yoga 918 00:32:54,093 --> 00:32:55,653 still when I'm 100. 919 00:32:55,653 --> 00:32:59,778 Like Nick's grandma, she was 95 and still 920 00:32:59,778 --> 00:33:02,958 able to do yoga, and that is the goal. 921 00:33:02,958 --> 00:33:04,488 You know, we don't wanna be riddled 922 00:33:04,488 --> 00:33:06,738 with the disease and, and all sorts 923 00:33:06,738 --> 00:33:09,648 of things physically and mentally when 924 00:33:09,653 --> 00:33:11,418 we're in our second half of our life. 925 00:33:11,418 --> 00:33:13,668 We wanna be thriving, running 926 00:33:13,668 --> 00:33:16,128 around with our great-grandchildren. 927 00:33:16,428 --> 00:33:18,168 That's where we wanna be. 928 00:33:18,173 --> 00:33:19,608 So it's the things that you do 929 00:33:19,608 --> 00:33:23,423 today that will manifest that. 930 00:33:24,533 --> 00:33:24,683 Yeah. 931 00:33:24,683 --> 00:33:25,583 I just wanna add to that, that 932 00:33:25,583 --> 00:33:26,963 it's really important, our mindset 933 00:33:26,963 --> 00:33:29,753 around health and longevity and what 934 00:33:29,753 --> 00:33:32,213 is our belief system about aging. 935 00:33:32,333 --> 00:33:35,033 Because for me personally, I have a 936 00:33:35,033 --> 00:33:37,793 very, very inbuilt, I'm not too sure 937 00:33:37,793 --> 00:33:39,863 where it came from, but my, my belief 938 00:33:39,863 --> 00:33:42,143 system is that every year I'm getting 939 00:33:42,143 --> 00:33:44,513 better, I'm getting stronger, smarter, 940 00:33:44,543 --> 00:33:46,923 faster, more mobile, more flexible. 941 00:33:47,513 --> 00:33:49,043 That's not something, it's not 942 00:33:49,043 --> 00:33:50,333 a story I'm telling myself. 943 00:33:50,333 --> 00:33:51,743 It's my actual belief system, which 944 00:33:51,743 --> 00:33:53,963 I've somehow developed through whatever, 945 00:33:53,993 --> 00:33:55,193 because I obviously lost my health 946 00:33:55,193 --> 00:33:57,773 years ago and I had to rebuild myself. 947 00:33:58,373 --> 00:33:59,483 And I honestly feel 948 00:33:59,483 --> 00:34:00,593 that's what's happening. 949 00:34:00,803 --> 00:34:04,163 And if, if that's not your belief system, 950 00:34:04,283 --> 00:34:06,083 I would really implore you to one, 951 00:34:06,113 --> 00:34:08,603 read the book and two, to start working 952 00:34:08,603 --> 00:34:10,943 on your mindset around health aging. 953 00:34:11,333 --> 00:34:12,473 You are gonna be a reflection 954 00:34:12,473 --> 00:34:13,643 of what your thoughts are. 955 00:34:13,733 --> 00:34:14,813 If you think you're gonna be 80 956 00:34:14,813 --> 00:34:16,283 years old and decrepit, that's 957 00:34:16,633 --> 00:34:17,333 probably what's gonna happen. 958 00:34:17,693 --> 00:34:19,163 If you think you'll be 80 years old 959 00:34:19,493 --> 00:34:21,293 and running marathons, you can do that. 960 00:34:21,293 --> 00:34:22,013 And there's this great 961 00:34:22,018 --> 00:34:23,843 guy, forgotten his name. 962 00:34:23,843 --> 00:34:25,493 He's on Rich Rolls podcast recently. 963 00:34:25,523 --> 00:34:26,753 He's a centenarian and he's a hundred 964 00:34:26,753 --> 00:34:28,913 years old, and he was diagnosed 965 00:34:28,913 --> 00:34:31,433 with terminal colon cancer at 69, 966 00:34:32,363 --> 00:34:33,653 who's given three years to live. 967 00:34:34,113 --> 00:34:37,023 His son gave him this book on. 968 00:34:37,578 --> 00:34:39,078 How to basically heal from cancer. 969 00:34:39,078 --> 00:34:41,598 It was a macro biotic diet at the time. 970 00:34:42,018 --> 00:34:44,748 So he went fully plant-based and not only 971 00:34:44,748 --> 00:34:47,988 is he still alive, he's got about 30 or 40 972 00:34:47,988 --> 00:34:51,888 world records in marathons and decathlons 973 00:34:51,888 --> 00:34:53,298 and like all these sorts of things. 974 00:34:53,588 --> 00:34:55,238 He's still potentially gonna do one more 975 00:34:55,688 --> 00:34:56,828 marathon and he's a hundred years old, 976 00:34:56,828 --> 00:34:57,188 right. 977 00:34:57,217 --> 00:34:59,503 So imagine his belief system, right? 978 00:34:59,503 --> 00:35:02,383 And, and through this he found such 979 00:35:02,383 --> 00:35:04,543 strong meaning, his new meaning, 980 00:35:04,543 --> 00:35:06,163 his new purpose in life was around 981 00:35:06,433 --> 00:35:07,963 educating on sustainability. 982 00:35:08,503 --> 00:35:10,753 So he now has this really strong purpose 983 00:35:11,203 --> 00:35:12,823 and it shows because you listen to him, 984 00:35:12,823 --> 00:35:13,783 he would never know he is a hundred 985 00:35:13,783 --> 00:35:16,153 years old because he's changed his belief 986 00:35:16,153 --> 00:35:18,913 system around what it's like to to age. 987 00:35:18,913 --> 00:35:20,563 So I think that's a really, really 988 00:35:20,563 --> 00:35:21,643 important thing to mention as 989 00:35:22,146 --> 00:35:23,766 It's so inspiring hey, to see people 990 00:35:23,766 --> 00:35:26,686 that perhaps change and shift our own 991 00:35:26,691 --> 00:35:29,693 assumptions, , of way life is meant 992 00:35:29,693 --> 00:35:31,613 to be done and shows us, hang on a 993 00:35:31,613 --> 00:35:33,413 minute I can rethink that and I can 994 00:35:33,413 --> 00:35:35,953 see other possibilities out there. 995 00:35:36,283 --> 00:35:38,323 So thank you so much both for being here. 996 00:35:38,323 --> 00:35:39,913 Final question, is there anything that I 997 00:35:39,913 --> 00:35:42,759 haven't asked you that you would share? 998 00:35:42,759 --> 00:35:47,600 Ooh, just what is your life worth to you? 999 00:35:47,660 --> 00:35:50,810 You know what is nothing that 1000 00:35:50,810 --> 00:35:51,830 I want you to ask me, but just, 1001 00:35:51,830 --> 00:35:53,120 I just wanted to share this. 1002 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,360 Like we only get one. 1003 00:35:57,110 --> 00:35:59,570 We only get one and like it makes 1004 00:35:59,570 --> 00:36:01,130 me emotional even saying that, 1005 00:36:01,130 --> 00:36:02,600 just thinking about my daughter, 1006 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:06,200 that I only get like one with her. 1007 00:36:06,710 --> 00:36:10,640 I like in this time, Space and reality, 1008 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,410 like I'm sure we've had many past 1009 00:36:12,410 --> 00:36:13,820 lives together and I'm sure we'll 1010 00:36:13,820 --> 00:36:15,560 have many in the future together. 1011 00:36:16,100 --> 00:36:18,830 But like in this body, in 1012 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,605 this time, space, reality. 1013 00:36:21,785 --> 00:36:22,625 This is it. 1014 00:36:22,865 --> 00:36:24,095 This is it. 1015 00:36:24,485 --> 00:36:26,855 And so we really do need to make the 1016 00:36:26,855 --> 00:36:29,705 most of this beautiful one magical, 1017 00:36:30,235 --> 00:36:31,835 precious life that we have been gifted. 1018 00:36:32,555 --> 00:36:34,865 And we teach you how to do that in 1019 00:36:34,865 --> 00:36:37,835 Time Magic because it's so important. 1020 00:36:37,925 --> 00:36:39,395 And you are important. 1021 00:36:39,395 --> 00:36:40,565 Your children are important. 1022 00:36:40,565 --> 00:36:42,395 The work that you do is important and we 1023 00:36:42,395 --> 00:36:45,865 wanna help you unleash that and live a 1024 00:36:45,870 --> 00:36:50,215 life that is meaningful and inspiring to 1025 00:36:50,215 --> 00:36:52,945 you and it's going to look different for 1026 00:36:53,725 --> 00:36:56,245 everyone, and this is really important. 1027 00:36:56,545 --> 00:36:59,365 You know, my ideal day is going to look 1028 00:36:59,370 --> 00:37:01,855 different to someone else's ideal day. 1029 00:37:02,155 --> 00:37:05,575 My ideal year, my ideal life 1030 00:37:05,605 --> 00:37:07,555 is, is going to look different. 1031 00:37:07,555 --> 00:37:09,385 And it's not about comparing, go and 1032 00:37:09,390 --> 00:37:11,965 read comparisonitis if you need to stop 1033 00:37:11,965 --> 00:37:14,335 comparing, but it's not about comparing. 1034 00:37:14,335 --> 00:37:17,275 It's about finding what is meaningful 1035 00:37:17,275 --> 00:37:19,555 to you and doing those things. 1036 00:37:19,555 --> 00:37:22,815 We also talk about rest and why rest? 1037 00:37:22,849 --> 00:37:23,539 Oh my gosh. 1038 00:37:23,599 --> 00:37:24,649 It was so funny actually 1039 00:37:24,649 --> 00:37:26,199 reading that part and um, 1040 00:37:27,624 --> 00:37:28,614 I was reading, I'm like, yeah, but 1041 00:37:28,614 --> 00:37:30,024 what is what do we do for rest. 1042 00:37:30,024 --> 00:37:31,194 And then you wrote the line that's 1043 00:37:31,194 --> 00:37:33,084 like, okay, now for you A types or 1044 00:37:33,084 --> 00:37:34,824 people pleasers or perfectionists, 1045 00:37:34,824 --> 00:37:35,754 if you're wondering, what am 1046 00:37:35,754 --> 00:37:36,864 I meant to be doing for rest? 1047 00:37:36,864 --> 00:37:38,424 Here's some ideas. 1048 00:37:38,784 --> 00:37:40,584 And I realized that one of them for 1049 00:37:40,584 --> 00:37:42,774 me at the minute is lying outside on 1050 00:37:42,774 --> 00:37:44,544 a mat in the sun and you write about 1051 00:37:44,544 --> 00:37:46,224 that and how amazing that can be. 1052 00:37:46,224 --> 00:37:47,904 And just lying there with Lando, 1053 00:37:47,904 --> 00:37:49,404 my son, and maybe reading some 1054 00:37:49,404 --> 00:37:51,241 books or but yeah, I loved that 1055 00:37:51,361 --> 00:37:53,023 I had to laugh when you actually 1056 00:37:53,023 --> 00:37:54,070 gave examples because we need them. 1057 00:37:54,070 --> 00:37:55,567 Well this is the thing, like 1058 00:37:55,573 --> 00:37:57,597 lot of mamas especially, 1059 00:37:57,597 --> 00:37:59,067 they're like, rest, what's that? 1060 00:37:59,067 --> 00:38:00,417 And how do I do that? 1061 00:38:00,417 --> 00:38:01,797 And what does that look like? 1062 00:38:02,157 --> 00:38:04,137 And so, and it's going to change 1063 00:38:04,647 --> 00:38:06,207 as you evolve and that's really 1064 00:38:06,207 --> 00:38:07,647 important to remember as well. 1065 00:38:07,647 --> 00:38:09,777 Like rest is going to look different 1066 00:38:09,777 --> 00:38:11,547 at different phases and also, 1067 00:38:12,447 --> 00:38:14,577 when we were writing the book, we 1068 00:38:14,577 --> 00:38:16,797 speak about what brings you joy. 1069 00:38:16,827 --> 00:38:18,237 So many people we were asking 1070 00:38:18,237 --> 00:38:19,557 were like, well, I don't know. 1071 00:38:19,557 --> 00:38:21,177 And haven't even given themselves the 1072 00:38:21,177 --> 00:38:24,177 opportunity to ponder that question. 1073 00:38:24,597 --> 00:38:27,117 And so for me, this year, this season 1074 00:38:27,122 --> 00:38:29,697 in my life, I sat with myself and I 1075 00:38:29,697 --> 00:38:32,067 was like, what really lights me up? 1076 00:38:32,127 --> 00:38:32,937 What really lights 1077 00:38:32,937 --> 00:38:33,207 me up? 1078 00:38:33,932 --> 00:38:35,222 And one of them was dancing. 1079 00:38:35,222 --> 00:38:37,142 So I went back to dance classes this 1080 00:38:37,142 --> 00:38:39,812 year, which has brought me so much joy. 1081 00:38:40,332 --> 00:38:43,962 I've started sewing, which is so beautiful 1082 00:38:43,962 --> 00:38:46,032 and creative and brings me so much joy. 1083 00:38:46,092 --> 00:38:48,012 And then another thing, gardening. 1084 00:38:48,012 --> 00:38:48,762 You know, Nick and I 1085 00:38:48,762 --> 00:38:49,842 are studying gardening. 1086 00:38:49,842 --> 00:38:51,222 We're doing a gardening course 1087 00:38:51,222 --> 00:38:53,742 and we're planting so much of our 1088 00:38:53,742 --> 00:38:55,812 own produce, which is awesome. 1089 00:38:56,352 --> 00:38:58,092 And so doing that is 1090 00:38:58,092 --> 00:38:59,322 really bringing me joy. 1091 00:38:59,327 --> 00:39:01,002 And so these three little things that 1092 00:39:01,002 --> 00:39:03,242 I don't monetize they have no agenda. 1093 00:39:03,242 --> 00:39:05,582 They're just the, the purpose of doing 1094 00:39:05,582 --> 00:39:09,002 them is because they bring me joy, and 1095 00:39:09,062 --> 00:39:11,222 we need to take that time to figure out 1096 00:39:11,227 --> 00:39:14,822 what those things or thing is for us, 1097 00:39:14,882 --> 00:39:18,662 and to do that every day if we can, and 1098 00:39:18,662 --> 00:39:21,242 live every day, like it's the best day 1099 00:39:21,272 --> 00:39:23,492 ever because it is the best day ever. 1100 00:39:23,996 --> 00:39:24,556 So Good. 1101 00:39:24,556 --> 00:39:24,946 Melissa? 1102 00:39:24,951 --> 00:39:25,546 thank you for sharing. 1103 00:39:25,546 --> 00:39:25,696 what? 1104 00:39:25,696 --> 00:39:26,476 about you, Nick? 1105 00:39:26,497 --> 00:39:28,687 Well more just to make the point that, um, 1106 00:39:28,837 --> 00:39:30,877 a lot of books about time are about time 1107 00:39:30,877 --> 00:39:33,980 management and we make it very clear that 1108 00:39:33,980 --> 00:39:35,450 this is not a book about time management, 1109 00:39:35,450 --> 00:39:38,600 cuz time management tends to be learning 1110 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,060 how to squash more into your day. 1111 00:39:42,125 --> 00:39:44,735 How to get more done, you know? 1112 00:39:45,035 --> 00:39:46,055 And that's not what 1113 00:39:46,055 --> 00:39:47,195 this book is, is about. 1114 00:39:47,225 --> 00:39:49,355 It's about creating this spacious 1115 00:39:49,745 --> 00:39:51,425 life that you know, that you're 1116 00:39:51,425 --> 00:39:52,955 worthy of, that you dream of. 1117 00:39:53,555 --> 00:39:55,475 And it's a very, as you know, 1118 00:39:55,475 --> 00:39:57,005 it's an extremely practical book. 1119 00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:58,910 You know, this is a book where 1120 00:39:58,910 --> 00:40:01,010 it's not theory, it is like, 1121 00:40:01,070 --> 00:40:03,350 right, step one, go and do this. 1122 00:40:03,350 --> 00:40:04,790 Step two, go and do this. 1123 00:40:04,790 --> 00:40:05,180 You know? 1124 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,120 So a friend of ours, Sally, who is 1125 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:09,410 reading it over the weekend, so she 1126 00:40:09,410 --> 00:40:10,790 could leave a review for us today. 1127 00:40:11,130 --> 00:40:12,450 And for anyone listening, if you have 1128 00:40:12,450 --> 00:40:14,070 read it, we would be so grateful for a 1129 00:40:14,070 --> 00:40:15,720 review on Amazon because it really, it 1130 00:40:15,720 --> 00:40:18,510 just helps spread the book into more 1131 00:40:18,510 --> 00:40:20,730 people's what's algorithmic really. 1132 00:40:20,735 --> 00:40:23,045 So if you can, we, we do know this 1133 00:40:23,050 --> 00:40:24,845 book is an absolute game changer for 1134 00:40:24,845 --> 00:40:27,245 people, so we want to get it out there. 1135 00:40:27,575 --> 00:40:30,335 But, um, Sally said, you know, I was 1136 00:40:30,335 --> 00:40:31,835 gonna read it in one sitting, but I 1137 00:40:31,895 --> 00:40:34,085 just need to sort of digest it, you 1138 00:40:34,090 --> 00:40:36,155 know, because there's a lot to do. 1139 00:40:36,555 --> 00:40:37,995 But it's all good because if you spend 1140 00:40:37,995 --> 00:40:39,795 the time and you do it, you're going 1141 00:40:39,795 --> 00:40:42,190 to free up a truckload of time right. 1142 00:40:42,530 --> 00:40:44,895 And as we say, up to 16 years, even 1143 00:40:44,895 --> 00:40:47,535 if you just do like one thing, you 1144 00:40:47,535 --> 00:40:49,185 might get a year of your life back. 1145 00:40:50,085 --> 00:40:51,315 Just one, you know? 1146 00:40:51,405 --> 00:40:53,775 So just wanted to make that point 1147 00:40:53,780 --> 00:40:55,725 because, uh, you know, books about 1148 00:40:55,725 --> 00:40:57,885 time can seem really dry sometimes. 1149 00:40:57,885 --> 00:40:59,505 This is a, this is a fun, playful 1150 00:40:59,505 --> 00:41:01,365 book, but it's very, very practical. 1151 00:41:01,665 --> 00:41:02,775 And we have our productivity 1152 00:41:02,775 --> 00:41:04,095 system there called, um, Tick 1153 00:41:04,095 --> 00:41:05,235 or flick, which I created. 1154 00:41:05,835 --> 00:41:08,685 And that again, is an absolute game 1155 00:41:08,685 --> 00:41:10,765 changer if you use Tick or Flick 1156 00:41:10,765 --> 00:41:12,330 your life will never be the same. 1157 00:41:12,335 --> 00:41:13,050 Simple as that. 1158 00:41:13,143 --> 00:41:14,864 I'm gonna start implementing that one. 1159 00:41:14,864 --> 00:41:16,184 I have my own version, but 1160 00:41:16,184 --> 00:41:17,414 I'm like, this is next level. 1161 00:41:19,874 --> 00:41:20,564 So good. 1162 00:41:20,894 --> 00:41:22,634 Well, thank you so much to both of you for 1163 00:41:22,639 --> 00:41:24,494 being here today for making the time to do 1164 00:41:24,494 --> 00:41:26,594 this, and the biggest congratulations on 1165 00:41:26,594 --> 00:41:28,784 getting this book out there in the world. 1166 00:41:28,844 --> 00:41:30,314 You're both incredible people. 1167 00:41:30,314 --> 00:41:31,454 Thank you for sharing the work 1168 00:41:31,454 --> 00:41:32,864 that you do, and I wish you both. 1169 00:41:32,869 --> 00:41:33,074 all. 1170 00:41:33,570 --> 00:41:34,490 Thank you, Emily. 1171 00:41:34,490 --> 00:41:36,310 Thank you so much for having us.