1 00:00:00,799 --> 00:00:02,960 Welcome back to the automation podcast. My name 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:05,040 is Sean Tierney from Insights. And this week 3 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:06,639 on the show, I meet back up with 4 00:00:06,639 --> 00:00:08,179 John Dattellum of Siemens 5 00:00:08,559 --> 00:00:11,039 to learn all about what's new in TIA 6 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:11,539 Portal 7 00:00:11,919 --> 00:00:13,460 version 21. 8 00:00:13,564 --> 00:00:15,084 Now before we jump into that, I do 9 00:00:15,084 --> 00:00:16,304 have one short announcement, 10 00:00:16,605 --> 00:00:18,704 and that is to thank this week's guest, 11 00:00:18,765 --> 00:00:21,984 Siemens, for sponsoring this episode and helping underwrite 12 00:00:22,044 --> 00:00:24,445 some of our costs to produce it. And 13 00:00:24,445 --> 00:00:27,004 in appreciation for the sponsorship, we're releasing it 14 00:00:27,004 --> 00:00:29,619 on all platforms ad free, and we're also 15 00:00:29,619 --> 00:00:32,199 including some helpful links to this week's topic 16 00:00:32,500 --> 00:00:33,479 in the description. 17 00:00:34,100 --> 00:00:35,780 That said, let's go ahead now and jump 18 00:00:35,780 --> 00:00:37,799 right into this week's episode of the automation 19 00:00:37,859 --> 00:00:40,979 podcast and learn about what's new in TIA 20 00:00:40,979 --> 00:00:43,155 Portal version 21. 21 00:00:43,954 --> 00:00:46,034 John, welcome back to the show. I'm excited 22 00:00:46,034 --> 00:00:47,975 to learn about what's new at TIA Portal. 23 00:00:48,274 --> 00:00:50,515 But for anybody who hasn't watched I mean, 24 00:00:50,515 --> 00:00:52,354 we've done so many episodes together over the 25 00:00:52,354 --> 00:00:54,515 years. But for anybody who's new to the 26 00:00:54,515 --> 00:00:56,034 show, would you just take a moment to 27 00:00:56,034 --> 00:00:58,309 tell them who you are? Yeah. John DeSellum. 28 00:00:58,309 --> 00:01:00,309 I'm with Siemens, of course, and my primary 29 00:01:00,309 --> 00:01:03,590 focus has been the engineering software. The TI 30 00:01:03,590 --> 00:01:04,090 portal 31 00:01:04,709 --> 00:01:06,729 is is one of those key components. 32 00:01:07,109 --> 00:01:08,709 And, yeah, you know, I come here a 33 00:01:08,709 --> 00:01:09,209 lot 34 00:01:09,590 --> 00:01:10,250 to focus 35 00:01:10,784 --> 00:01:12,484 on the concepts of 36 00:01:12,864 --> 00:01:14,564 the engineering software for the PLCs. 37 00:01:14,944 --> 00:01:15,844 And, of course, 38 00:01:16,305 --> 00:01:17,984 you know, we have my other counterparts that 39 00:01:17,984 --> 00:01:20,484 do the HMI and drives and the other 40 00:01:20,545 --> 00:01:23,390 product products as well. But, generally, I I 41 00:01:23,390 --> 00:01:24,769 focus on the TI portal 42 00:01:25,150 --> 00:01:26,129 and the overall 43 00:01:26,590 --> 00:01:28,989 arching engineering software. Yeah. And I was looking 44 00:01:28,989 --> 00:01:30,909 back at the previous episodes we did, and 45 00:01:30,909 --> 00:01:33,709 there's some of the most popular Siemens episodes 46 00:01:33,709 --> 00:01:36,430 we've done. Right? And so, thank you for 47 00:01:36,430 --> 00:01:38,385 coming back on and to bring us up 48 00:01:38,385 --> 00:01:40,305 to speed. And I believe TIA Portal v 49 00:01:40,305 --> 00:01:42,465 21, did that release in the fall or 50 00:01:42,465 --> 00:01:45,745 the winter? Fundamentally, November, December. Some of the 51 00:01:45,745 --> 00:01:46,484 stuff was 52 00:01:46,784 --> 00:01:47,284 published, 53 00:01:47,745 --> 00:01:50,864 available for download, or delivered to customers on 54 00:01:50,864 --> 00:01:51,685 annual agreements, 55 00:01:52,310 --> 00:01:52,969 in December 56 00:01:53,590 --> 00:01:55,129 and in into January. 57 00:01:55,430 --> 00:01:58,170 So, yeah, it was it was fundamentally announced 58 00:01:58,549 --> 00:02:00,890 at the SPS Nuremberg in Nuremberg, 59 00:02:01,430 --> 00:02:04,329 and all the components and the PLC hardware 60 00:02:04,629 --> 00:02:07,575 kind of roll out, December, January, February, March 61 00:02:08,134 --> 00:02:10,634 because there's some things that kinda lag 62 00:02:10,935 --> 00:02:13,495 after the engineering software. But, yeah, I started 63 00:02:13,495 --> 00:02:13,995 doing, 64 00:02:14,534 --> 00:02:16,955 TI portal step seven one cc safety 65 00:02:17,334 --> 00:02:19,495 December 5, I think, when I first had 66 00:02:19,495 --> 00:02:21,370 access to it in the cloud, and then 67 00:02:21,370 --> 00:02:24,650 I downloaded the DVD one. So, yeah, generally, 68 00:02:24,650 --> 00:02:26,729 what we do is we roll out every 69 00:02:26,729 --> 00:02:28,349 year in November, December, 70 00:02:28,810 --> 00:02:29,310 January 71 00:02:29,849 --> 00:02:30,909 these core components. 72 00:02:31,210 --> 00:02:33,550 TI portals, the overall arching framework 73 00:02:33,965 --> 00:02:36,205 and everything sits within it. One of the 74 00:02:36,205 --> 00:02:38,604 key components that your followers use is the 75 00:02:38,604 --> 00:02:40,544 step seven for the PLC engineering 76 00:02:40,924 --> 00:02:42,224 together with the safety, 77 00:02:42,685 --> 00:02:45,084 PLC sim, PLC sim advanced, and then, of 78 00:02:45,084 --> 00:02:46,784 course, WinCC for the HMIs, 79 00:02:47,324 --> 00:02:49,710 cinemics for the start drive. And that's kinda 80 00:02:49,710 --> 00:02:51,730 what I'll focus on today is those key 81 00:02:52,189 --> 00:02:52,689 components. 82 00:02:52,990 --> 00:02:55,169 But all the other components also 83 00:02:55,629 --> 00:02:56,849 get revisions 84 00:02:58,030 --> 00:02:58,530 related 85 00:02:58,830 --> 00:03:00,909 to the rollout at the end of the 86 00:03:00,909 --> 00:03:03,150 year, basically, every year to to kind of 87 00:03:03,150 --> 00:03:04,050 bring forward 88 00:03:04,349 --> 00:03:04,849 some 89 00:03:05,175 --> 00:03:07,594 new enhancements and functionalities that benefit 90 00:03:07,974 --> 00:03:10,474 our users, our customers in the field. Okay? 91 00:03:10,534 --> 00:03:12,455 Yeah. Sounds good. I'm excited to learn about 92 00:03:12,455 --> 00:03:13,194 what's new. 93 00:03:13,495 --> 00:03:15,094 Yeah. So I'll focus a little bit on 94 00:03:15,094 --> 00:03:18,134 on TF portal, step seven, some safety, PLC, 95 00:03:18,134 --> 00:03:19,354 some advanced, PCI, 96 00:03:19,655 --> 00:03:20,639 just as a hint, 97 00:03:21,039 --> 00:03:23,199 and then some overview of that. But, again, 98 00:03:23,199 --> 00:03:24,819 you know, I like to make sure customers 99 00:03:25,039 --> 00:03:25,860 have the perspective, 100 00:03:26,719 --> 00:03:29,280 you know, that they're gonna purchase a step 101 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,539 seven professional for the PLCs 102 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:33,620 or WinCC for the HMI. 103 00:03:33,965 --> 00:03:35,264 Comes with star drive. 104 00:03:35,805 --> 00:03:37,824 And then once they do that installation, 105 00:03:38,204 --> 00:03:38,864 it becomes 106 00:03:39,485 --> 00:03:41,025 the the overall software 107 00:03:41,644 --> 00:03:43,965 of TIA portal. And, of course, like, what 108 00:03:43,965 --> 00:03:46,284 we're focused on today, different from all the 109 00:03:46,284 --> 00:03:48,144 other podcasts that you can find 110 00:03:48,510 --> 00:03:50,669 in your thing in the past. I mean, 111 00:03:50,669 --> 00:03:52,430 we go back quite a quite a few 112 00:03:52,430 --> 00:03:55,469 years to v 17, I think. They're still 113 00:03:55,469 --> 00:03:57,550 all there. But the the v 21 just 114 00:03:57,550 --> 00:03:59,469 released, and this is what it looks like. 115 00:03:59,469 --> 00:04:01,634 So, of course, I play around in the 116 00:04:01,634 --> 00:04:04,215 real software. I do demonstrations for customers. 117 00:04:04,834 --> 00:04:06,674 I I tweak into the new features, but 118 00:04:06,674 --> 00:04:08,514 this is my view of my demo project. 119 00:04:08,514 --> 00:04:09,814 It's based on some hardware. 120 00:04:10,114 --> 00:04:12,114 This is real hardware in this case. We've 121 00:04:12,114 --> 00:04:13,414 got the engineering Copilot 122 00:04:14,114 --> 00:04:15,794 for Pierre Poreau. I'll mention that at the 123 00:04:15,794 --> 00:04:16,259 end, 124 00:04:16,740 --> 00:04:19,060 you know, as a little icon reminder there. 125 00:04:19,060 --> 00:04:21,699 But all the other components that are built 126 00:04:21,699 --> 00:04:24,439 in but the cool is a system centric 127 00:04:24,500 --> 00:04:25,000 approach. 128 00:04:25,379 --> 00:04:27,139 That's what we're doing with when when you 129 00:04:27,139 --> 00:04:29,779 look at TF portal, my project file is 130 00:04:29,779 --> 00:04:30,795 a project file 131 00:04:31,194 --> 00:04:32,654 of of the automation devices 132 00:04:33,355 --> 00:04:34,814 required for a solution. 133 00:04:35,194 --> 00:04:38,735 So I could have multiple PLCs, multiple HMIs, 134 00:04:39,355 --> 00:04:42,235 a slew of IO that's bridged across to 135 00:04:42,235 --> 00:04:42,895 the PLCs 136 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:45,620 and drives. This is a small little factor. 137 00:04:45,840 --> 00:04:47,779 But this is what's kinda cool about 138 00:04:48,319 --> 00:04:51,460 the the the perspective of Siemens and SIMATIC 139 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,000 and TI portal is is a system centric 140 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,819 approach that brings the benefits of uniform usability 141 00:04:57,199 --> 00:05:00,805 and consistent database for the whole automation solution. 142 00:05:01,105 --> 00:05:03,185 Now I wanna say something here for those 143 00:05:03,185 --> 00:05:05,345 who are listening. You're gonna like it because 144 00:05:05,345 --> 00:05:07,665 it looks just like version 20. So don't 145 00:05:07,665 --> 00:05:09,504 think like it's this brand new interface, and 146 00:05:09,504 --> 00:05:11,345 it's totally different. I'm looking at this, and 147 00:05:11,345 --> 00:05:12,805 I'm like, I feel so comfortable. 148 00:05:13,159 --> 00:05:15,079 You know, it's a it's the same user 149 00:05:15,079 --> 00:05:17,079 interface we all, you know, have learned to 150 00:05:17,079 --> 00:05:19,159 love and use over the years with Siemens. 151 00:05:19,159 --> 00:05:22,279 So it's not some major redo. It looks 152 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:25,159 very similar to '20 and '19 and '18 153 00:05:25,159 --> 00:05:26,805 and '17 and so on. So sorry. I 154 00:05:26,805 --> 00:05:28,165 didn't mean to interrupt, but I wanna let 155 00:05:28,165 --> 00:05:30,085 the the audience know that that you haven't, 156 00:05:30,085 --> 00:05:32,645 like, totally changed the user interface. It's the 157 00:05:32,725 --> 00:05:35,064 it's what we're very comfortable with using today. 158 00:05:35,605 --> 00:05:37,764 Yeah. And and that's a that's a very 159 00:05:37,764 --> 00:05:39,959 big point that I I I I I 160 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:41,240 I wanted to bring up in one of 161 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:42,919 our tech tips that we're gonna do in 162 00:05:42,919 --> 00:05:45,000 the next couple weeks or a month. But, 163 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,000 yeah, the the cool part is I can 164 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,419 download v 21. I can upgrade my v 165 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:51,259 19 or v 18, 166 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:53,180 and it's still all fundamentally 167 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:54,939 the same core functionality 168 00:05:55,774 --> 00:05:58,495 and the same usability. You there's not a 169 00:05:58,495 --> 00:06:00,354 need to relearn anything because 170 00:06:00,735 --> 00:06:02,194 the changes are enhancements 171 00:06:02,735 --> 00:06:03,634 to the existing 172 00:06:03,935 --> 00:06:06,175 what you're used to over the years. And 173 00:06:06,175 --> 00:06:08,014 the cool part is, as we see in 174 00:06:08,014 --> 00:06:09,689 some of the tech tips we're gonna do, 175 00:06:09,769 --> 00:06:11,529 is I I I can start small and 176 00:06:11,529 --> 00:06:14,509 use v 21 on my v 19 project 177 00:06:14,649 --> 00:06:15,149 and 178 00:06:15,689 --> 00:06:17,930 and still tweak around and and click around. 179 00:06:17,930 --> 00:06:18,430 But 180 00:06:18,730 --> 00:06:20,009 everything stays functional 181 00:06:20,330 --> 00:06:22,905 fundamentally the same except for, you know, a 182 00:06:22,905 --> 00:06:23,845 a few enhancements 183 00:06:24,465 --> 00:06:25,764 in the PLC hardware, 184 00:06:26,465 --> 00:06:28,944 in some of the functionality they bring brought 185 00:06:28,944 --> 00:06:31,525 forward because of customer feedback. But they're they're 186 00:06:31,665 --> 00:06:33,045 generally, like you said, 187 00:06:33,504 --> 00:06:34,769 not impactful 188 00:06:35,629 --> 00:06:37,709 to a big level. They're bringing more and 189 00:06:37,709 --> 00:06:40,029 more functionality, which is great stuff for our 190 00:06:40,029 --> 00:06:42,209 customers as we look into the future into, 191 00:06:42,269 --> 00:06:45,149 you know, twenty thirty and twenty forty. This 192 00:06:45,149 --> 00:06:47,889 is still gonna be, you know, the beast 193 00:06:48,134 --> 00:06:49,274 for doing audios. 194 00:06:49,654 --> 00:06:51,654 Yeah. And there's something about that that's just 195 00:06:51,654 --> 00:06:53,974 so positive that, you know, I jump around 196 00:06:53,974 --> 00:06:56,214 from 16 to 17 to 18 to 20 197 00:06:56,214 --> 00:06:57,894 and depending you know, I've done I don't 198 00:06:57,894 --> 00:06:59,495 know. I think I did 20 or 30 199 00:06:59,495 --> 00:07:02,454 Siemens videos last year, and it just it 200 00:07:02,454 --> 00:07:05,289 doesn't matter. Like, there's small differences between them, 201 00:07:05,289 --> 00:07:07,329 you know, these new features and and and, 202 00:07:07,329 --> 00:07:08,769 you know, newest stuff you can do with 203 00:07:08,769 --> 00:07:10,290 the newest software, but you can be just 204 00:07:10,290 --> 00:07:12,769 as efficient, in my opinion, in 16 as 205 00:07:12,769 --> 00:07:14,129 you can in 20. And I just love 206 00:07:14,129 --> 00:07:15,490 that, but let me turn it back to 207 00:07:15,490 --> 00:07:15,990 you. 208 00:07:16,370 --> 00:07:18,529 Absolutely. Yeah. Some of the some of the 209 00:07:18,529 --> 00:07:19,754 key things that, you know, 210 00:07:20,235 --> 00:07:22,795 come the reality of why v 21, it's 211 00:07:22,795 --> 00:07:24,495 it's the next generation hardware, 212 00:07:24,875 --> 00:07:27,035 the the the some of the functionality in 213 00:07:27,035 --> 00:07:29,754 the hardware that customers need, and then some 214 00:07:29,754 --> 00:07:32,495 of the enhancements that just take us to 215 00:07:32,634 --> 00:07:34,759 concepts that a lot of the 216 00:07:35,220 --> 00:07:36,579 automation guys are using. And we'll touch on 217 00:07:36,579 --> 00:07:38,500 some of that stuff today. But I pulled 218 00:07:38,500 --> 00:07:40,899 out this is the eye chart of all 219 00:07:40,899 --> 00:07:42,740 the things that get documented from all the 220 00:07:42,740 --> 00:07:45,639 different components from the WinCC, the step seven, 221 00:07:45,875 --> 00:07:48,754 the start drive, the cloud services. Basically, it's 222 00:07:48,754 --> 00:07:49,975 TF portal in the cloud. 223 00:07:50,275 --> 00:07:51,955 And then all these options, like I mentioned 224 00:07:51,955 --> 00:07:54,435 before, but every one of the product managers 225 00:07:54,435 --> 00:07:55,095 in headquarters, 226 00:07:55,875 --> 00:07:59,014 you know, drives some functionality improvement 227 00:07:59,410 --> 00:08:01,649 in the yearly releases of of these different 228 00:08:01,649 --> 00:08:02,149 topics 229 00:08:02,449 --> 00:08:05,410 to enhance it for our user experiences so 230 00:08:05,410 --> 00:08:06,850 that it gets better for the for the 231 00:08:06,850 --> 00:08:09,649 future. But you're right. It doesn't derail it 232 00:08:09,649 --> 00:08:11,649 from a perspective of having to start all 233 00:08:11,649 --> 00:08:13,895 over again. So I only picked out a 234 00:08:13,895 --> 00:08:15,574 a couple highlights on here, and then what 235 00:08:15,574 --> 00:08:17,014 I'm hoping to do is in a in 236 00:08:17,014 --> 00:08:18,775 a couple of our tech tips, we we 237 00:08:18,775 --> 00:08:20,714 help our customers or your followers 238 00:08:21,335 --> 00:08:23,654 dig into this deeper on their own. One 239 00:08:23,654 --> 00:08:25,254 of the cool things that, you know, I've 240 00:08:25,254 --> 00:08:25,754 always 241 00:08:26,419 --> 00:08:28,819 been adamant about is why is TIA Portal 242 00:08:28,819 --> 00:08:30,839 not tracking all the data of the 243 00:08:31,379 --> 00:08:34,100 information that I'm changing. And it's a lot 244 00:08:34,100 --> 00:08:36,100 of noise if I turn it on at 245 00:08:36,100 --> 00:08:37,079 the wrong time. 246 00:08:37,379 --> 00:08:40,125 But if my machine is up and running 247 00:08:40,664 --> 00:08:43,544 and I'm making a change or two related 248 00:08:43,544 --> 00:08:45,644 to enhancement on my machine, 249 00:08:46,184 --> 00:08:48,764 changing the the the block or the PLC, 250 00:08:49,625 --> 00:08:52,105 what they what they allowed is the ability 251 00:08:52,105 --> 00:08:54,879 to turn on a log and start filling 252 00:08:55,100 --> 00:08:56,799 a file on your computer 253 00:08:57,500 --> 00:09:00,059 with some of these things that happen while 254 00:09:00,059 --> 00:09:01,740 you're clicking through TF work. So this is 255 00:09:01,740 --> 00:09:03,039 new in v 21 256 00:09:03,259 --> 00:09:05,519 is this log file 257 00:09:05,980 --> 00:09:08,639 and the ability to turn on the log 258 00:09:08,700 --> 00:09:09,440 and then, 259 00:09:10,205 --> 00:09:13,004 save it on your local computer as a 260 00:09:13,004 --> 00:09:14,705 log file. It's it's fundamental. 261 00:09:15,085 --> 00:09:17,264 It's simple. It's not the elaborate 262 00:09:17,644 --> 00:09:19,804 tracking of some of the other systems that 263 00:09:19,804 --> 00:09:20,705 are third party 264 00:09:21,085 --> 00:09:24,190 backup and restore, but it is basically, fundamentally 265 00:09:24,250 --> 00:09:26,009 capturing some of the stuff in TI portal. 266 00:09:26,009 --> 00:09:28,889 And it's the first rendition, so b 21. 267 00:09:28,889 --> 00:09:30,410 So I I think this is gonna be 268 00:09:30,410 --> 00:09:33,450 something that we see evolve over time with 269 00:09:33,450 --> 00:09:36,170 more and more availability of the information that's 270 00:09:36,170 --> 00:09:38,634 there and and ability to to manage it, 271 00:09:38,875 --> 00:09:40,735 so it doesn't become too overwhelming. 272 00:09:41,595 --> 00:09:43,514 Yeah. I think for a somebody who's managing 273 00:09:43,514 --> 00:09:45,595 a maintenance department, turning that on would be 274 00:09:45,595 --> 00:09:48,154 great. Because if Joe is out sick and 275 00:09:48,154 --> 00:09:49,934 you're like, well, what did he do yesterday? 276 00:09:50,500 --> 00:09:51,539 He can go and look at the log 277 00:09:51,539 --> 00:09:53,299 and say, oh, he added that screen or 278 00:09:53,299 --> 00:09:55,220 he changed that wrong or whatever he did. 279 00:09:55,220 --> 00:09:56,120 So back to you. 280 00:09:56,500 --> 00:09:58,259 Yep. Yeah. I I think this is gonna 281 00:09:58,259 --> 00:09:59,860 be a good thing. I I think, you 282 00:09:59,860 --> 00:10:01,779 know, it's a it's a thing to explore 283 00:10:01,779 --> 00:10:03,299 and a thing to give us feedback as 284 00:10:03,299 --> 00:10:05,115 to what it's missing or or what its 285 00:10:05,195 --> 00:10:08,174 what its capabilities need to be be considered 286 00:10:08,235 --> 00:10:09,914 for the future. But, yeah, I think it's 287 00:10:09,914 --> 00:10:12,315 a huge step to the fact that TI 288 00:10:12,315 --> 00:10:14,975 portal knows the mouse click that you've done 289 00:10:15,274 --> 00:10:17,754 and what was what was done to a 290 00:10:17,754 --> 00:10:19,375 block, to a PLC tag, 291 00:10:19,740 --> 00:10:21,580 to a value in the in the data 292 00:10:21,580 --> 00:10:23,980 value. And the ability to kinda just land 293 00:10:23,980 --> 00:10:25,659 that somewhere so that you could filter through 294 00:10:25,659 --> 00:10:27,840 it is a is a great step. So, 295 00:10:28,379 --> 00:10:30,220 fundamentally, I you know, one of the first 296 00:10:30,220 --> 00:10:32,139 things I do is try to figure out 297 00:10:32,139 --> 00:10:33,825 where it's at and how to do it. 298 00:10:34,065 --> 00:10:35,504 But I I I went in here and 299 00:10:35,504 --> 00:10:36,565 I turned on 300 00:10:37,024 --> 00:10:38,004 the log changes, 301 00:10:38,465 --> 00:10:40,304 turned on my usernames that are set up 302 00:10:40,304 --> 00:10:42,865 in user management, and then I just went 303 00:10:42,865 --> 00:10:44,785 in and clicked through to make sure that 304 00:10:44,785 --> 00:10:46,759 it gave me a change. The cool part 305 00:10:46,759 --> 00:10:47,980 is in the log 306 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:49,580 inside the project 307 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:50,460 file, 308 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:52,519 there's a go to button. That little green 309 00:10:52,519 --> 00:10:54,759 arrow is always a help. If you have 310 00:10:54,759 --> 00:10:57,000 an error or a message related to a 311 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:58,920 compile of your code, you click on that. 312 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:00,600 It's gonna go right to where this object 313 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:02,245 is so so you can see exactly what 314 00:11:02,245 --> 00:11:02,745 happened. 315 00:11:03,205 --> 00:11:04,884 Thanks. So I I think this is, you 316 00:11:04,884 --> 00:11:06,904 know, the this is new in v '21. 317 00:11:06,965 --> 00:11:08,664 This is a good thing for our customers 318 00:11:08,804 --> 00:11:10,504 to turn on and explore 319 00:11:11,044 --> 00:11:13,365 how it looks and what it gives them 320 00:11:13,365 --> 00:11:16,019 and then how they potentially could use it 321 00:11:16,340 --> 00:11:18,920 into the some of their management systems and 322 00:11:19,059 --> 00:11:21,139 other tools that they're using there. And also 323 00:11:21,139 --> 00:11:23,379 our third party partners that do these kinds 324 00:11:23,379 --> 00:11:25,860 of backup and resource systems accessing this log 325 00:11:25,860 --> 00:11:28,580 might also be helpful. Another thing that's that's 326 00:11:28,580 --> 00:11:30,740 pretty significant that we've been working on the 327 00:11:30,740 --> 00:11:32,625 last couple years based on a lot of 328 00:11:32,625 --> 00:11:35,445 feedback from customers and the evolution of version 329 00:11:35,745 --> 00:11:36,884 control tools, 330 00:11:37,264 --> 00:11:38,324 a continuous integration, 331 00:11:38,865 --> 00:11:39,924 continuous development, 332 00:11:40,304 --> 00:11:43,204 is is a need for our PLC, 333 00:11:44,225 --> 00:11:46,884 ladder files or function block diagrams or 334 00:11:47,309 --> 00:11:47,809 the 335 00:11:48,269 --> 00:11:51,549 SCL documents, STL documents to be more user 336 00:11:51,549 --> 00:11:52,049 readable. 337 00:11:52,830 --> 00:11:53,730 In in the past, 338 00:11:54,269 --> 00:11:56,350 if I did an export of my TI 339 00:11:56,350 --> 00:11:57,570 portal ladder file, 340 00:11:58,029 --> 00:12:01,230 it was XML document and and very hard 341 00:12:01,230 --> 00:12:03,044 to read and very hard to pull out 342 00:12:03,284 --> 00:12:05,764 what the simple logic was behind it. Our 343 00:12:05,764 --> 00:12:08,004 our development folks have, you know, taken into 344 00:12:08,004 --> 00:12:10,264 consideration what users are trying to do 345 00:12:10,565 --> 00:12:12,664 with the version control interfaces, 346 00:12:13,524 --> 00:12:15,625 with text based documents, 347 00:12:16,429 --> 00:12:18,850 with their own openness tool sets, 348 00:12:19,230 --> 00:12:21,809 and they found a way to basically 349 00:12:22,750 --> 00:12:23,250 export 350 00:12:23,629 --> 00:12:26,610 the document or the ladder file XML. 351 00:12:26,990 --> 00:12:29,649 Instead of going to XML as the format, 352 00:12:30,004 --> 00:12:32,485 they're saving it as what's called SD source 353 00:12:32,485 --> 00:12:32,985 document. 354 00:12:33,524 --> 00:12:35,544 It's kind of a simple name, but, fundamentally, 355 00:12:35,684 --> 00:12:37,384 what they're doing is saving it 356 00:12:37,764 --> 00:12:40,884 as simple text. One cool thing about this 357 00:12:40,884 --> 00:12:42,644 is if I do this, it's gonna be 358 00:12:42,644 --> 00:12:45,449 versioned independent. So you look at this. I 359 00:12:45,449 --> 00:12:48,250 can save this off as my ladder file 360 00:12:48,250 --> 00:12:51,289 for my interface to my control, my valve, 361 00:12:51,289 --> 00:12:52,350 or my robot. 362 00:12:52,809 --> 00:12:54,750 And and when I save that off 363 00:12:55,129 --> 00:12:57,949 and I wanna replicate it, it's version independent. 364 00:12:58,524 --> 00:12:59,745 So there's no versioning 365 00:13:00,284 --> 00:13:02,464 built into it. So it will 366 00:13:02,764 --> 00:13:06,144 be it will live longer in my evolution 367 00:13:06,205 --> 00:13:07,825 of my automation 368 00:13:08,684 --> 00:13:11,325 when I use a version 22 or version 369 00:13:11,325 --> 00:13:14,410 23 in the future because that version data 370 00:13:14,410 --> 00:13:15,690 is not inside there and it's just that 371 00:13:15,690 --> 00:13:18,330 text. And, again, the the concept is that 372 00:13:18,330 --> 00:13:20,830 we're adhering to some DevOps 373 00:13:21,529 --> 00:13:22,029 concepts, 374 00:13:22,570 --> 00:13:24,269 continuous integration, continuous 375 00:13:24,730 --> 00:13:25,230 development, 376 00:13:25,725 --> 00:13:26,544 version management, 377 00:13:27,164 --> 00:13:27,664 tracking, 378 00:13:28,365 --> 00:13:31,245 source control. All those concepts that you you 379 00:13:31,245 --> 00:13:34,225 use in the software world, the programmers are 380 00:13:34,684 --> 00:13:37,084 evoluting or maturing to the concept. I can 381 00:13:37,164 --> 00:13:38,970 I wanna do that in the automation world? 382 00:13:39,049 --> 00:13:40,409 Well, the good news is you can still 383 00:13:40,409 --> 00:13:42,889 do it with TI portal, and we're building 384 00:13:42,889 --> 00:13:44,750 in the tools to to enable 385 00:13:45,370 --> 00:13:46,509 the the source documents 386 00:13:47,129 --> 00:13:47,789 to be 387 00:13:48,169 --> 00:13:50,490 interface to a version control interface and to 388 00:13:50,490 --> 00:13:52,985 be managed the same way you do other 389 00:13:52,985 --> 00:13:55,485 documents in Versus Code and other tool sets. 390 00:13:55,544 --> 00:13:58,105 So that's that's a that that's an interesting 391 00:13:58,105 --> 00:14:00,024 topic, and a lot of users are using 392 00:14:00,024 --> 00:14:01,625 TI portal with all the tool sets, the 393 00:14:01,625 --> 00:14:03,149 libraries, and the other tool sets 394 00:14:03,550 --> 00:14:06,029 to manage their projects in the engineering for 395 00:14:06,029 --> 00:14:09,230 efficient engineering to be more powerful. This is 396 00:14:09,230 --> 00:14:11,550 a big complicated slide that shows the the 397 00:14:11,550 --> 00:14:12,050 repositories 398 00:14:12,830 --> 00:14:14,910 and that kind of stuff that is part 399 00:14:14,910 --> 00:14:16,670 of it. And and this is a document 400 00:14:16,670 --> 00:14:18,370 that we can get into later or 401 00:14:18,674 --> 00:14:20,115 a tech tip that we can talk about 402 00:14:20,115 --> 00:14:22,434 later. This is this is another example of 403 00:14:22,434 --> 00:14:22,934 using 404 00:14:23,315 --> 00:14:25,075 in, one block. I don't know if you 405 00:14:25,075 --> 00:14:26,914 know you could do this, but even if 406 00:14:26,914 --> 00:14:29,815 it's a ladder block, I can mix, SCL 407 00:14:29,955 --> 00:14:31,549 together with FPD. 408 00:14:31,929 --> 00:14:33,850 And the cool part is now we don't 409 00:14:33,850 --> 00:14:36,570 care what you're doing in a ladder block. 410 00:14:36,570 --> 00:14:38,409 If I have a function block that's for 411 00:14:38,409 --> 00:14:39,230 drive control 412 00:14:39,690 --> 00:14:42,250 and it's function block x y z, I 413 00:14:42,250 --> 00:14:45,144 can mix some s c SCL for doing 414 00:14:45,144 --> 00:14:48,665 my mathematics for setting up the scaling or 415 00:14:48,665 --> 00:14:49,644 the following 416 00:14:50,105 --> 00:14:52,024 of the motion control, and then I can 417 00:14:52,024 --> 00:14:54,184 use lateralizer for some discrete all in the 418 00:14:54,184 --> 00:14:56,360 same single block. Now this isn't new. Right? 419 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:58,040 You've always been able to have, like, network 420 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:00,700 one b function block, network two b SCL, 421 00:15:00,759 --> 00:15:01,980 network three b 422 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:04,440 ladder. I think what's new here is that 423 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:06,600 you're supporting this in the source document export. 424 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:08,120 Is that what I am I understanding that 425 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,220 correctly? Exactly. Yep. Okay. 426 00:15:10,675 --> 00:15:11,175 Yep. 427 00:15:12,035 --> 00:15:13,335 In in in version 20, 428 00:15:13,795 --> 00:15:16,695 it was strictly latter. But in version 21, 429 00:15:16,754 --> 00:15:18,274 they do all that for the function block 430 00:15:18,274 --> 00:15:20,774 diagram and the SCL as well. And now 431 00:15:20,915 --> 00:15:23,610 if customers have this concept of mixed 432 00:15:24,089 --> 00:15:26,570 language editors in one block, they can also 433 00:15:26,570 --> 00:15:27,950 do this with the source document. 434 00:15:28,490 --> 00:15:30,889 Nice. And then in the settings of the 435 00:15:30,889 --> 00:15:33,610 workspace of TF portal, now you can set 436 00:15:33,610 --> 00:15:35,529 it up so that if you click and 437 00:15:35,529 --> 00:15:36,429 export the 438 00:15:36,809 --> 00:15:38,589 code instead of it being XML, 439 00:15:38,955 --> 00:15:41,134 you can set it to SD source document. 440 00:15:41,355 --> 00:15:42,875 You can set that so that it goes 441 00:15:42,875 --> 00:15:44,315 there. And you see the ones that are 442 00:15:44,315 --> 00:15:47,115 still gonna be XML, s t l, which 443 00:15:47,115 --> 00:15:48,095 is a German 444 00:15:48,554 --> 00:15:50,795 editor for the old statement list stuff, and 445 00:15:50,795 --> 00:15:52,875 graph has gotta be XML because it's so 446 00:15:52,875 --> 00:15:54,589 complex. But you can see all the other 447 00:15:54,589 --> 00:15:56,690 ones that now in b b 21 448 00:15:57,149 --> 00:16:00,269 support this concept of simple text, readable text. 449 00:16:00,269 --> 00:16:02,190 And then this is what the version control 450 00:16:02,190 --> 00:16:05,070 interface. Basically, inside my TI portal framework as 451 00:16:05,070 --> 00:16:05,730 an engineer, 452 00:16:06,110 --> 00:16:07,089 I have a repository, 453 00:16:07,709 --> 00:16:09,409 for example, git or other, 454 00:16:09,845 --> 00:16:12,745 and I I I I wanna manage my 455 00:16:12,884 --> 00:16:14,665 text code blocks 456 00:16:15,205 --> 00:16:17,384 related to the the version January 457 00:16:17,845 --> 00:16:18,745 x y z. 458 00:16:19,045 --> 00:16:21,699 And this is the version interface that's been 459 00:16:21,779 --> 00:16:23,639 I think it's been in since e sixteen. 460 00:16:24,019 --> 00:16:26,039 And it's evolved with more and more functionality 461 00:16:26,820 --> 00:16:28,740 up to where we are now today. So 462 00:16:28,740 --> 00:16:31,720 it includes the ability to do library objects, 463 00:16:31,940 --> 00:16:33,320 and it now includes 464 00:16:33,779 --> 00:16:36,394 the ability to do types. And a type 465 00:16:36,394 --> 00:16:38,954 block is where it's a it's a block 466 00:16:38,954 --> 00:16:42,074 that's kinda managed, like, outside the project file, 467 00:16:42,074 --> 00:16:44,714 and the versions are tracked in my project 468 00:16:44,714 --> 00:16:46,654 library or my global library 469 00:16:47,195 --> 00:16:48,334 and applied 470 00:16:48,714 --> 00:16:51,600 as a standard type. Cool. Yeah. Very cool. 471 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:55,299 Alright. Kinda changing topics. Another cool feature that 472 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:57,779 that kinda came through in b twenty one 473 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:01,460 and related to the the new firmware 474 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:04,500 used right here, firmware 4.1 475 00:17:04,744 --> 00:17:06,045 of the 1,500, 476 00:17:06,424 --> 00:17:08,424 is the ability if I have a a 477 00:17:08,424 --> 00:17:09,404 data block 478 00:17:09,945 --> 00:17:11,404 that was set up 479 00:17:11,945 --> 00:17:14,525 and running in my production machine 480 00:17:15,225 --> 00:17:18,205 and I set up all the data values 481 00:17:18,345 --> 00:17:19,965 for a recipe or 482 00:17:20,890 --> 00:17:22,750 for how I wanna run the machine. 483 00:17:23,049 --> 00:17:25,789 If we're running the machine and doing production 484 00:17:25,849 --> 00:17:28,190 for a set period of time, and 485 00:17:28,809 --> 00:17:30,650 I went back and I added a a 486 00:17:30,650 --> 00:17:31,150 variable 487 00:17:31,529 --> 00:17:32,430 to that block, 488 00:17:32,809 --> 00:17:34,490 in the past, you had to do some 489 00:17:34,490 --> 00:17:34,934 steps 490 00:17:35,414 --> 00:17:37,815 to ensure that you saved off the running 491 00:17:37,815 --> 00:17:39,755 values of the value of the 492 00:17:40,215 --> 00:17:42,535 values as a into a start value and 493 00:17:42,535 --> 00:17:43,195 a reset 494 00:17:43,735 --> 00:17:45,995 to ensure that you didn't lose your recipe 495 00:17:46,055 --> 00:17:49,259 or your setup values. Well, in version 21, 496 00:17:49,259 --> 00:17:51,599 this is a nice enhancement or feature 497 00:17:52,380 --> 00:17:55,200 brought forward to overcome that problem 498 00:17:55,659 --> 00:17:56,640 or that work 499 00:17:57,259 --> 00:17:59,819 process that was in there. And now I 500 00:17:59,819 --> 00:18:02,285 can modify a data block, a set of 501 00:18:02,285 --> 00:18:02,785 variables, 502 00:18:03,325 --> 00:18:05,664 where I modify or add additional 503 00:18:06,045 --> 00:18:07,105 variables in that 504 00:18:07,644 --> 00:18:08,464 data block, 505 00:18:08,924 --> 00:18:11,884 and the running values that exist in the 506 00:18:11,884 --> 00:18:14,144 PLC will keep their actual values. 507 00:18:14,750 --> 00:18:16,609 Now let me ask you about this. So 508 00:18:16,829 --> 00:18:18,129 in the course I teach, 509 00:18:18,429 --> 00:18:20,349 I have to walk I have to really 510 00:18:20,349 --> 00:18:22,669 walk through students to make sure they understand 511 00:18:22,669 --> 00:18:23,490 this because 512 00:18:24,269 --> 00:18:26,129 in in prior to '21, 513 00:18:26,269 --> 00:18:27,649 you had to do this beforehand. 514 00:18:27,950 --> 00:18:29,755 In your project, you have to you have 515 00:18:29,755 --> 00:18:32,154 to say in your data block, keep actual 516 00:18:32,154 --> 00:18:34,494 values and it assigned some memory for that. 517 00:18:34,634 --> 00:18:36,394 And you you may have to update that 518 00:18:36,394 --> 00:18:38,394 over time if you didn't assign enough memory 519 00:18:38,394 --> 00:18:40,875 to begin with. So what you're saying here 520 00:18:40,875 --> 00:18:42,714 is that this is a different way of 521 00:18:42,714 --> 00:18:44,690 doing it where if I make a change 522 00:18:44,690 --> 00:18:46,289 and then I wanna download it, it will 523 00:18:46,289 --> 00:18:48,369 give me the choice to keep actual values. 524 00:18:48,369 --> 00:18:49,830 Am I understanding that correctly? 525 00:18:50,210 --> 00:18:53,809 Exactly. Yep. Very that's very cool. Yeah. So 526 00:18:53,809 --> 00:18:55,730 the one thing about the data blocks that 527 00:18:55,730 --> 00:18:57,750 contains our variables for the process, 528 00:18:58,394 --> 00:19:00,795 the the one thing that was done inside 529 00:19:00,795 --> 00:19:02,894 Siemens different than some of the other guys 530 00:19:03,035 --> 00:19:05,674 is the setup of an an initial value 531 00:19:05,674 --> 00:19:07,835 or a start value. So I I build 532 00:19:07,835 --> 00:19:08,494 the machine, 533 00:19:08,795 --> 00:19:11,115 and I and I set up the control 534 00:19:11,115 --> 00:19:13,252 for a station or a or a motor 535 00:19:13,252 --> 00:19:15,950 or a valve, and I know the the 536 00:19:15,950 --> 00:19:17,490 values of certain variables 537 00:19:18,269 --> 00:19:20,750 that represent how it should always start up 538 00:19:20,750 --> 00:19:21,890 after a a shutdown 539 00:19:22,349 --> 00:19:23,250 or a reset 540 00:19:23,630 --> 00:19:25,170 so that that those 541 00:19:25,724 --> 00:19:26,704 values are 542 00:19:27,724 --> 00:19:30,605 initialization values or startup values so that I 543 00:19:30,605 --> 00:19:32,125 know my machine is gonna run the way 544 00:19:32,125 --> 00:19:34,924 I engineered it. And in in in the 545 00:19:34,924 --> 00:19:37,085 world of Siemens, that's known as the start 546 00:19:37,085 --> 00:19:37,585 value 547 00:19:37,990 --> 00:19:38,809 or the initial 548 00:19:39,109 --> 00:19:39,609 value. 549 00:19:40,069 --> 00:19:42,710 And and basically on a you know, my 550 00:19:42,710 --> 00:19:44,069 machine is all hosed up. I don't know 551 00:19:44,069 --> 00:19:45,990 what the maintenance guys did with some of 552 00:19:45,990 --> 00:19:46,569 the values. 553 00:19:46,869 --> 00:19:48,329 I I put it to stop 554 00:19:48,630 --> 00:19:50,515 or I power cycle it, and I start 555 00:19:50,515 --> 00:19:52,434 it back up. And the good news is 556 00:19:52,434 --> 00:19:54,515 I know that my start values are going 557 00:19:54,515 --> 00:19:55,015 to 558 00:19:55,714 --> 00:19:56,214 reinitialize 559 00:19:56,674 --> 00:19:58,134 to what was in engineered 560 00:19:58,595 --> 00:19:59,894 for the system. 561 00:20:00,355 --> 00:20:02,434 Without having to have a separate routine that 562 00:20:02,434 --> 00:20:03,335 does the initialization, 563 00:20:03,714 --> 00:20:04,994 which is what we would do in other 564 00:20:04,994 --> 00:20:05,494 PLCs. 565 00:20:05,950 --> 00:20:07,150 We would have to have a start up 566 00:20:07,150 --> 00:20:09,230 routine that says, you know, we're starting up. 567 00:20:09,230 --> 00:20:11,630 Let's reinitialize everything. But then on the flip 568 00:20:11,630 --> 00:20:12,130 side, 569 00:20:12,670 --> 00:20:15,390 we have a lot of instances where the 570 00:20:15,390 --> 00:20:17,710 operator is, like, he's the brain trust behind 571 00:20:17,710 --> 00:20:19,789 the machine, and he puts all the information 572 00:20:19,789 --> 00:20:20,769 in through the HMI. 573 00:20:21,265 --> 00:20:23,345 And so we don't wanna lose those values 574 00:20:23,345 --> 00:20:25,585 because, like, what if he's on vacation and 575 00:20:25,585 --> 00:20:27,585 nobody knows the secret sauce to all those 576 00:20:27,585 --> 00:20:29,664 values? So we don't want to we wanna 577 00:20:29,664 --> 00:20:32,144 avoid making a especially an online edit. If 578 00:20:32,144 --> 00:20:33,585 you take an old copy and download it, 579 00:20:33,585 --> 00:20:35,345 we always expect something bad to happen, but 580 00:20:35,809 --> 00:20:38,049 or potentially happen. But, you know, if somebody's 581 00:20:38,049 --> 00:20:40,470 making an online change, they're gonna fix something, 582 00:20:40,609 --> 00:20:42,710 you know, you you you wanna be cognizant 583 00:20:42,849 --> 00:20:45,009 of, hey. Will this erase all the values 584 00:20:45,009 --> 00:20:46,390 that were entered in the HMI? 585 00:20:46,769 --> 00:20:49,169 That's that's where something like this just gives 586 00:20:49,169 --> 00:20:51,865 me another way to avoid that. Correct. Yep. 587 00:20:51,865 --> 00:20:52,744 100%. 588 00:20:52,744 --> 00:20:54,664 Yeah. This is this is 100% 589 00:20:54,664 --> 00:20:55,724 the the big benefit 590 00:20:56,105 --> 00:20:58,125 of the new firmware 4.1. 591 00:20:58,585 --> 00:21:01,384 And the version 21 is that in a 592 00:21:01,384 --> 00:21:04,025 production environment, the the the operator or the 593 00:21:04,025 --> 00:21:06,025 maintenance guy makes a change to a a 594 00:21:06,025 --> 00:21:08,640 data block as a variable, he has the 595 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:10,900 option to keep the values. 100%. 596 00:21:11,039 --> 00:21:11,539 Nice. 597 00:21:12,079 --> 00:21:15,119 Another cool feature that's kinda evolved to v 598 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:16,900 v 18, v 19, v 20 599 00:21:17,519 --> 00:21:19,380 is the safety validation 600 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:23,195 assistant and and tool set. And and it's 601 00:21:23,195 --> 00:21:25,515 kinda based on the concept that, again, all 602 00:21:25,515 --> 00:21:27,434 the components that are related to an e 603 00:21:27,434 --> 00:21:27,934 stop 604 00:21:28,315 --> 00:21:30,974 or a contactor or a drive safe 605 00:21:31,674 --> 00:21:32,494 torque off 606 00:21:33,115 --> 00:21:35,355 are all part of the devices that are 607 00:21:35,355 --> 00:21:38,150 in my automation solution because I'm doing everything 608 00:21:38,150 --> 00:21:40,089 inside TF portal. So I have 609 00:21:40,470 --> 00:21:42,569 the the IO, the estop 610 00:21:42,950 --> 00:21:44,970 represented in my hardware configuration 611 00:21:45,750 --> 00:21:48,490 on PROFINET or wired to an IO point. 612 00:21:48,549 --> 00:21:50,970 I have my evaluation logic and my PLC, 613 00:21:51,214 --> 00:21:52,115 and I have my 614 00:21:52,654 --> 00:21:53,154 outputs 615 00:21:53,855 --> 00:21:54,914 or my drive 616 00:21:55,375 --> 00:21:57,075 all connected into TF portal. 617 00:21:57,454 --> 00:22:00,595 So some of our our smart application engineers 618 00:22:01,134 --> 00:22:03,695 in in headquarters has identified the ability to 619 00:22:03,695 --> 00:22:04,434 kind of 620 00:22:04,815 --> 00:22:07,289 write a little script to monitor 621 00:22:08,150 --> 00:22:10,950 the the the status of something that might 622 00:22:10,950 --> 00:22:13,509 be the estop or the safety gate related 623 00:22:13,509 --> 00:22:14,809 to the detect, 624 00:22:15,509 --> 00:22:17,750 what we intend that that should be done 625 00:22:17,750 --> 00:22:20,009 when that happens, and how to verify 626 00:22:20,575 --> 00:22:22,414 what the output does in the in the 627 00:22:22,414 --> 00:22:25,394 end result. So the Saiki validation assistant 628 00:22:25,695 --> 00:22:26,914 was evolved 629 00:22:27,455 --> 00:22:29,695 in v 21 I mean, v 20 and 630 00:22:29,695 --> 00:22:32,015 v 21. It's it's in the project tree. 631 00:22:32,015 --> 00:22:33,715 It's a cross functional device 632 00:22:34,319 --> 00:22:34,819 because 633 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,059 it allows me to pull 634 00:22:37,519 --> 00:22:38,019 inputs, 635 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,779 input data from wherever the ESOP might exist 636 00:22:42,079 --> 00:22:42,579 and 637 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:46,240 check how it's being controlled and then monitor 638 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,884 what's happening to my output device. So it 639 00:22:48,884 --> 00:22:51,125 allows it allows me to write a safety 640 00:22:51,125 --> 00:22:51,625 validation 641 00:22:52,484 --> 00:22:55,765 against what my safety expectations are for the 642 00:22:55,765 --> 00:22:57,705 system. So it basically 643 00:22:58,244 --> 00:23:00,164 works on the 15 hundreds, the 12 hundreds, 644 00:23:00,164 --> 00:23:01,144 and the g two. 645 00:23:01,525 --> 00:23:02,505 It it is 646 00:23:03,059 --> 00:23:05,539 fundamentally based on, you know, the concept of 647 00:23:05,539 --> 00:23:08,039 wherever I can get the input data, 648 00:23:08,659 --> 00:23:09,159 evaluate 649 00:23:09,539 --> 00:23:12,179 the results, and then determine what's going on 650 00:23:12,179 --> 00:23:12,679 there. 651 00:23:13,220 --> 00:23:16,464 And I basically write a little test, and 652 00:23:16,684 --> 00:23:19,244 it will validate my safety function outside the 653 00:23:19,244 --> 00:23:20,144 PLC code. 654 00:23:20,605 --> 00:23:22,464 And it generates a document, 655 00:23:23,404 --> 00:23:25,825 and it provides me a way of validating 656 00:23:25,964 --> 00:23:28,684 a safety function on my automation system before 657 00:23:28,684 --> 00:23:29,825 I start production. 658 00:23:30,349 --> 00:23:32,430 And then I can save that off in 659 00:23:32,430 --> 00:23:34,269 the library. I can save that off in 660 00:23:34,269 --> 00:23:35,650 exported tool sets. 661 00:23:35,950 --> 00:23:36,609 And then 662 00:23:37,150 --> 00:23:39,150 six months from now or a year from 663 00:23:39,150 --> 00:23:41,009 now when somebody makes a change, 664 00:23:41,789 --> 00:23:43,470 I can run that test again to make 665 00:23:43,470 --> 00:23:45,945 sure that they didn't disrupt my expectation of 666 00:23:46,164 --> 00:23:48,725 the safety. So this is a cool tool 667 00:23:48,725 --> 00:23:50,965 set that I kinda feel like everybody should 668 00:23:50,965 --> 00:23:53,144 be evaluating if it gives them 669 00:23:53,525 --> 00:23:54,184 a secondary 670 00:23:54,965 --> 00:23:56,025 way of validating 671 00:23:56,325 --> 00:23:58,164 a safety function in their in the tool 672 00:23:58,164 --> 00:24:00,920 set to ensure that it it remains 673 00:24:02,019 --> 00:24:04,759 as expected in the functionality that was intended 674 00:24:05,299 --> 00:24:07,299 in a process in their world. And and 675 00:24:07,299 --> 00:24:08,579 this is another thing that we could do 676 00:24:08,579 --> 00:24:10,694 as a as a tech tip later on. 677 00:24:10,694 --> 00:24:12,294 Yeah. I'd love to hear from anybody out 678 00:24:12,294 --> 00:24:15,355 there who's using fail safe controllers to, CPUs. 679 00:24:15,815 --> 00:24:17,414 Let us know. Run through this and let 680 00:24:17,414 --> 00:24:18,855 us know what you think. I don't do 681 00:24:18,855 --> 00:24:20,534 it. You know, being an instructor or in 682 00:24:20,534 --> 00:24:22,375 a in a YouTuber, I don't I don't 683 00:24:22,375 --> 00:24:23,654 I don't do a lot of safety, but 684 00:24:23,654 --> 00:24:24,855 I'd love to know what the field what 685 00:24:24,855 --> 00:24:26,134 the people out there in the field think 686 00:24:26,134 --> 00:24:28,720 of this. So back to you, John. Yep. 687 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:29,220 Absolutely. 688 00:24:29,839 --> 00:24:31,599 The other new key thing is the the 689 00:24:31,599 --> 00:24:34,079 next generation s 1,200. You you've got some 690 00:24:34,079 --> 00:24:35,920 of the first generation stuff there in your 691 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,559 in your lab and your your training. But 692 00:24:38,559 --> 00:24:39,859 last year in January, 693 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:41,924 Louis Navaros launched 694 00:24:42,884 --> 00:24:44,184 this second generation. 695 00:24:44,565 --> 00:24:46,424 It's kind of a redesigned hardware 696 00:24:47,045 --> 00:24:50,005 of the 1,200. It's intended to go longer 697 00:24:50,005 --> 00:24:51,865 into the future with the 15 hundreds. 698 00:24:52,404 --> 00:24:53,285 The objective is, 699 00:24:53,924 --> 00:24:55,465 is smaller footprint, 700 00:24:56,005 --> 00:24:58,769 less general for those types of critical, 701 00:24:59,630 --> 00:25:02,190 small spaces that these kinds these kind of 702 00:25:02,190 --> 00:25:05,150 devices fit into. And then the other key 703 00:25:05,150 --> 00:25:07,009 core to the to the actual 704 00:25:07,470 --> 00:25:10,029 functionality running in the PLC is it is 705 00:25:10,029 --> 00:25:11,085 truly more of a 706 00:25:11,644 --> 00:25:13,505 full blown 1,500 inside 707 00:25:13,964 --> 00:25:14,865 than it 708 00:25:15,404 --> 00:25:18,524 is of what was the gen one s 709 00:25:18,524 --> 00:25:20,284 seven twelve hundred that was a little bit 710 00:25:20,284 --> 00:25:22,044 different. So this is what it looks like. 711 00:25:22,044 --> 00:25:24,304 It's it's it's a little bit, I think, 712 00:25:24,829 --> 00:25:26,289 taller off the DIN rail, 713 00:25:26,670 --> 00:25:28,430 a little a little bit bigger this way, 714 00:25:28,430 --> 00:25:30,430 but the intent is to be a smaller 715 00:25:30,430 --> 00:25:31,730 footprint when it's mounted. 716 00:25:32,029 --> 00:25:33,570 There's these signal boards 717 00:25:34,430 --> 00:25:35,490 that allow you 718 00:25:36,509 --> 00:25:37,890 to expand this compact 719 00:25:38,255 --> 00:25:39,875 CPU beyond the 720 00:25:40,174 --> 00:25:42,335 IO points that are there. So I can 721 00:25:42,335 --> 00:25:44,575 add a signal board here that gives me 722 00:25:44,575 --> 00:25:46,654 more functionality, and then you've got your modules 723 00:25:46,654 --> 00:25:49,134 that sit there. Now this this device, there's 724 00:25:49,134 --> 00:25:51,350 a couple new ones at 12:16 725 00:25:51,350 --> 00:25:52,410 and 12:17. 726 00:25:52,710 --> 00:25:55,029 And then, of course, it's got PROFINET built 727 00:25:55,029 --> 00:25:55,529 in, 728 00:25:55,990 --> 00:25:58,549 and it can connect to e t 200 729 00:25:58,549 --> 00:26:00,470 SP remote IO or anything else that's on 730 00:26:00,470 --> 00:26:02,630 PROFINET and be a scanner just like anything 731 00:26:02,630 --> 00:26:02,894 else. 732 00:26:03,455 --> 00:26:04,894 Yeah. I would say to anybody out there 733 00:26:04,894 --> 00:26:07,455 using the, original s seven twelve hundred, which 734 00:26:07,455 --> 00:26:08,755 is a great small PLC, 735 00:26:09,375 --> 00:26:11,455 definitely check out. We had Lewis on. He 736 00:26:11,455 --> 00:26:13,455 did a a physical tour. I did an 737 00:26:13,455 --> 00:26:17,039 unboxing. Lewis went through the detailed slides. There's 738 00:26:17,039 --> 00:26:18,720 two of those. There's like the preview slides, 739 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,480 which we did a long time ago, but 740 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,400 the latest version of that was the detailed 741 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,940 final slide. So definitely wanna recommend anybody who's 742 00:26:26,079 --> 00:26:27,599 wanna look at the g two, check it 743 00:26:27,599 --> 00:26:29,414 out. We have plenty of content on it. 744 00:26:29,494 --> 00:26:31,494 And this this page shows, what's new in 745 00:26:31,494 --> 00:26:32,795 version 4.1. 746 00:26:33,255 --> 00:26:35,035 Yep. Exactly. Yeah. So 747 00:26:35,494 --> 00:26:36,154 and and 748 00:26:36,535 --> 00:26:37,414 4.1, 749 00:26:37,414 --> 00:26:40,055 the g two just got released earlier this 750 00:26:40,055 --> 00:26:42,455 week, so I'm just now gonna try and 751 00:26:42,455 --> 00:26:44,470 get some my hands on that firmware on 752 00:26:44,470 --> 00:26:47,210 the support side. But, yeah, the the OPC 753 00:26:47,269 --> 00:26:49,929 UA, this is cool about our our PLCs 754 00:26:50,149 --> 00:26:52,169 is, you know, it's truly a setup 755 00:26:52,470 --> 00:26:54,549 inside the hardware. It's not a third party 756 00:26:54,549 --> 00:26:55,450 device or 757 00:26:55,829 --> 00:26:58,464 secondary device slapped on the backplane of the 758 00:26:58,464 --> 00:27:00,565 PLC. It's actually built into the controllers, 759 00:27:01,184 --> 00:27:01,684 server, 760 00:27:01,984 --> 00:27:02,644 and client. 761 00:27:03,025 --> 00:27:04,944 Web pages are powerful. I I got a 762 00:27:04,944 --> 00:27:06,785 slide on that. Motion control is a big 763 00:27:06,785 --> 00:27:07,285 topic. 764 00:27:07,664 --> 00:27:10,144 What's new in v '21 and the PLC 765 00:27:10,144 --> 00:27:11,924 sim advanced is the 1,200. 766 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,640 G two is now supported in PLC sim 767 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:15,460 sim advanced. 768 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,420 There's a app near field communications 769 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:20,420 that you see the little 770 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,119 symbol on the front of the PLC, and 771 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,279 then some of the other functionalities come out 772 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,015 coming around in the PLC. Now some of 773 00:27:27,015 --> 00:27:29,174 the hardware modules that are related to the 774 00:27:29,174 --> 00:27:29,914 g two, 775 00:27:30,215 --> 00:27:30,715 specifically, 776 00:27:31,174 --> 00:27:33,974 like, fail safe IO modules for the g 777 00:27:33,974 --> 00:27:34,474 two 778 00:27:34,934 --> 00:27:36,734 plan for May 779 00:27:36,734 --> 00:27:37,734 2026, 780 00:27:37,734 --> 00:27:39,974 so later this year. But you can still 781 00:27:39,974 --> 00:27:41,849 do safety with the e 200 SP if 782 00:27:41,849 --> 00:27:43,929 if that's how you wanna start. Web pages 783 00:27:43,929 --> 00:27:45,690 are really a cool thing. You can set 784 00:27:45,690 --> 00:27:48,169 them up so that the user, even though 785 00:27:48,169 --> 00:27:49,549 they ping the IP address, 786 00:27:50,089 --> 00:27:52,429 they they have to log in with some 787 00:27:52,730 --> 00:27:53,869 login information. 788 00:27:54,329 --> 00:27:56,169 But if you give them the rights on 789 00:27:56,169 --> 00:27:56,990 the web pages, 790 00:27:57,315 --> 00:27:58,755 this this is the kind of a cool 791 00:27:58,755 --> 00:28:00,194 thing that you can do either from your 792 00:28:00,194 --> 00:28:00,694 workstation. 793 00:28:01,075 --> 00:28:02,994 Maybe you don't wanna get online with TI 794 00:28:02,994 --> 00:28:04,914 portal. You don't have TI portal or you 795 00:28:04,914 --> 00:28:06,615 wanna access it from your HMI. 796 00:28:07,075 --> 00:28:08,214 But there's a slew 797 00:28:08,835 --> 00:28:09,815 of read only 798 00:28:10,194 --> 00:28:10,694 diagnostics 799 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,720 or information related to the PLC that you 800 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,279 can get here without needing TI portal. And 801 00:28:16,279 --> 00:28:18,359 then if you enable some of the right 802 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:18,859 functionality, 803 00:28:19,559 --> 00:28:22,359 you can actually reset, run, stop, and do 804 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:23,340 some other functionality. 805 00:28:24,085 --> 00:28:26,265 But, yeah, fundamentally, the the new 806 00:28:26,565 --> 00:28:27,305 web pages 807 00:28:27,924 --> 00:28:30,164 on the full corner are intended to kinda 808 00:28:30,164 --> 00:28:31,845 be a new look and feel. And this 809 00:28:31,845 --> 00:28:34,005 is another slide that kinda highlights the the 810 00:28:34,005 --> 00:28:35,625 concepts of the new web pages 811 00:28:36,085 --> 00:28:37,465 for the for the PLCs. 812 00:28:38,380 --> 00:28:40,700 Very cool. So like I mentioned earlier, the 813 00:28:40,700 --> 00:28:42,940 other product managers for the other components around 814 00:28:42,940 --> 00:28:45,819 the TI portal also release version 21 for 815 00:28:45,819 --> 00:28:46,480 the PLC 816 00:28:47,099 --> 00:28:49,785 sim that's built in. PLC sim is the 817 00:28:50,265 --> 00:28:52,984 the the DVD that comes free with TF 818 00:28:52,984 --> 00:28:55,965 portal step seven that allows you to fundamentally 819 00:28:56,025 --> 00:28:58,605 simulate the PLC in a in a simple 820 00:28:58,825 --> 00:29:00,664 perspective the way we've always been able to 821 00:29:00,664 --> 00:29:03,144 do it. A PLC sim advanced is the 822 00:29:03,144 --> 00:29:05,570 tool that's used at a higher level for 823 00:29:05,570 --> 00:29:06,710 interfacing to 824 00:29:07,090 --> 00:29:10,150 other APIs and other technologies. But the PLC 825 00:29:10,210 --> 00:29:11,910 sim d 21 826 00:29:12,130 --> 00:29:14,869 brought some new user functionality for the user 827 00:29:15,250 --> 00:29:18,470 that brings more value for using PLC sim. 828 00:29:18,575 --> 00:29:20,414 Instead of using hardware, I can use PLC 829 00:29:20,414 --> 00:29:23,134 sim to test my system. It's I I 830 00:29:23,134 --> 00:29:25,154 love the PLC sim. That's what I fundamentally 831 00:29:25,295 --> 00:29:27,454 use together with the HMI sim and this 832 00:29:27,615 --> 00:29:29,714 and the stuff that comes around the motion. 833 00:29:29,775 --> 00:29:33,420 So there's functionality user new simple user interfaces 834 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,279 that that evolved in the PLC seven v 835 00:29:36,279 --> 00:29:37,019 21. 836 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,019 And PLC seven advanced 837 00:29:39,799 --> 00:29:42,359 rolled to version eight point o. And in 838 00:29:42,359 --> 00:29:45,035 that version eight point o, it it also 839 00:29:45,654 --> 00:29:47,414 evolved with a lot of enhancements that are 840 00:29:47,414 --> 00:29:48,475 related to hardware 841 00:29:48,855 --> 00:29:51,255 and other tool sets that are required. Now 842 00:29:51,255 --> 00:29:53,835 with the advanced, of course, it opens up 843 00:29:54,134 --> 00:29:55,434 the ability to 844 00:29:55,815 --> 00:29:58,215 have open interfaces of my Ethernet port on 845 00:29:58,215 --> 00:29:59,115 my PC 846 00:29:59,630 --> 00:30:01,570 or use an API to connect 847 00:30:02,190 --> 00:30:03,970 to third party or Siemens, 848 00:30:04,509 --> 00:30:05,009 tools 849 00:30:05,390 --> 00:30:07,549 that allow me to simulate or do virtual 850 00:30:07,549 --> 00:30:10,350 machine software. Another cool thing that that that 851 00:30:10,430 --> 00:30:12,509 that's gonna be rolled out in the version 852 00:30:12,509 --> 00:30:14,930 eight point o is the ability to kinda 853 00:30:15,355 --> 00:30:17,674 simulate the display that you see on the 854 00:30:17,674 --> 00:30:20,494 hardware PLC. This display is a very powerful 855 00:30:20,875 --> 00:30:22,954 interactive tool set that gives you all the 856 00:30:22,954 --> 00:30:23,454 informations 857 00:30:23,914 --> 00:30:24,974 going on with PLC. 858 00:30:25,515 --> 00:30:26,015 And 859 00:30:26,714 --> 00:30:28,234 a lot of users have asked, can I 860 00:30:28,234 --> 00:30:31,299 get the display somewhere else, which doesn't hasn't 861 00:30:31,359 --> 00:30:32,579 ever been evolved? 862 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,359 It's basically the web pages are intended to 863 00:30:35,359 --> 00:30:38,660 do that. But now it's gonna be possible 864 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,119 to kinda use it in the PLC some 865 00:30:41,119 --> 00:30:41,619 advanced 866 00:30:42,079 --> 00:30:44,075 as well. Another cool thing that's kinda come 867 00:30:44,075 --> 00:30:45,295 out is the documentation, 868 00:30:45,595 --> 00:30:47,055 the how to, the help. 869 00:30:47,515 --> 00:30:48,815 There's there's a new 870 00:30:49,595 --> 00:30:51,134 online view of the docs 871 00:30:51,914 --> 00:30:52,414 documentation, 872 00:30:52,875 --> 00:30:53,775 the help files 873 00:30:54,235 --> 00:30:56,140 that allows you to get to some more 874 00:30:56,140 --> 00:30:57,279 tutorial videos, 875 00:30:57,900 --> 00:31:00,539 some overviews of what's new. And and those 876 00:31:00,539 --> 00:31:02,380 are pretty powerful tools that you can use 877 00:31:02,380 --> 00:31:03,119 to also 878 00:31:03,579 --> 00:31:05,500 evaluate what's new in g app portal v 879 00:31:05,500 --> 00:31:06,799 21. So here's 880 00:31:07,180 --> 00:31:08,859 I always go to the what's new in 881 00:31:08,859 --> 00:31:10,515 the help. So k. Yep. 882 00:31:11,055 --> 00:31:13,375 And then I drag drag drag onto there. 883 00:31:13,375 --> 00:31:15,295 Let me share one of my screens real 884 00:31:15,295 --> 00:31:17,615 quick. Yeah. So here's what I mentioned a 885 00:31:17,615 --> 00:31:19,474 minute ago is the, docs, 886 00:31:19,775 --> 00:31:21,474 tiportal.cloudcloud. 887 00:31:21,535 --> 00:31:23,535 You can get to this without an installation 888 00:31:23,535 --> 00:31:24,515 of t I portal, 889 00:31:25,049 --> 00:31:25,549 but 890 00:31:26,009 --> 00:31:26,670 it's TIA, 891 00:31:27,370 --> 00:31:29,150 TF portal. It's all online. 892 00:31:29,450 --> 00:31:30,970 I'll send I'll get you this link so 893 00:31:30,970 --> 00:31:32,890 you can publish it as well. What I 894 00:31:32,890 --> 00:31:36,330 use is that docu folder, and I'll send 895 00:31:36,330 --> 00:31:37,610 you the link to that or this. And 896 00:31:37,610 --> 00:31:40,764 I'll go read in more clarity the, definition 897 00:31:40,764 --> 00:31:42,764 of what's new in v '21. What's cool 898 00:31:42,764 --> 00:31:43,964 about this is you can go back to 899 00:31:43,964 --> 00:31:45,964 the other versions and see what was new 900 00:31:45,964 --> 00:31:47,505 in v twenty one and get a perspective 901 00:31:47,644 --> 00:31:49,484 about what was gone in the back. I'll 902 00:31:49,484 --> 00:31:52,704 also jump to the sales and delivery release 903 00:31:52,924 --> 00:31:53,664 real quick 904 00:31:54,169 --> 00:31:56,089 and show you kind of, you know, how 905 00:31:56,089 --> 00:31:56,910 that's structured. 906 00:31:57,289 --> 00:32:00,569 This is the support site in our Siemens 907 00:32:00,569 --> 00:32:01,069 portal, 908 00:32:01,450 --> 00:32:04,089 and it highlights, you know, the concept of 909 00:32:04,089 --> 00:32:06,029 what was released in b twenty one. 910 00:32:06,424 --> 00:32:09,065 There's the detailed slides that I'm kinda going 911 00:32:09,065 --> 00:32:11,964 through here so anyone can download those. 912 00:32:12,505 --> 00:32:14,984 It's about 300 slides because of the detail 913 00:32:14,984 --> 00:32:16,825 of it. And then this is where you 914 00:32:16,825 --> 00:32:19,484 can get to the specifics of the details 915 00:32:19,544 --> 00:32:21,085 related to step seven 916 00:32:21,820 --> 00:32:22,640 what was 917 00:32:22,940 --> 00:32:25,180 detailed in in the release of step seven. 918 00:32:25,180 --> 00:32:26,220 And this is where you can get to 919 00:32:26,220 --> 00:32:27,840 the trial download of 920 00:32:28,220 --> 00:32:30,220 downloading the software. This is where I usually 921 00:32:30,220 --> 00:32:32,880 send our customers to go and get DVD 922 00:32:33,019 --> 00:32:33,840 number one 923 00:32:34,460 --> 00:32:37,184 and download this TI portal sub seven safety 924 00:32:37,184 --> 00:32:39,045 one cc version 21. 925 00:32:39,424 --> 00:32:40,964 And this will give them 926 00:32:41,345 --> 00:32:42,404 the basics 927 00:32:42,865 --> 00:32:43,365 of 928 00:32:43,664 --> 00:32:45,444 TI portal because it's all inclusive. 929 00:32:45,904 --> 00:32:48,464 And then, like, we always try to promote 930 00:32:48,464 --> 00:32:48,964 is, 931 00:32:49,359 --> 00:32:51,460 yeah, get the PLC sim. Absolutely. 932 00:32:52,399 --> 00:32:54,720 When you seek PLC sim version 21, this 933 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,099 is the free unlicensed, 934 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,299 and this will allow you to simulate PLC, 935 00:32:59,359 --> 00:33:00,099 the HMI, 936 00:33:00,559 --> 00:33:02,559 and the start and basically do what most 937 00:33:02,559 --> 00:33:04,694 of us wanna do. Yeah. And then if 938 00:33:04,694 --> 00:33:06,694 you wanna do more enhanced, then you can 939 00:33:06,694 --> 00:33:08,714 do a trial of the PLCs in advance. 940 00:33:08,775 --> 00:33:10,775 What's significant is every one of these things 941 00:33:10,775 --> 00:33:11,275 supports 942 00:33:12,214 --> 00:33:13,835 about a twenty one day trial. 943 00:33:14,214 --> 00:33:16,534 When you download it, it activates step seven 944 00:33:16,534 --> 00:33:17,194 or wincc, 945 00:33:17,990 --> 00:33:19,350 gives you a chance to get time to 946 00:33:19,350 --> 00:33:20,250 get the licenses. 947 00:33:20,789 --> 00:33:22,309 Which is great for students who just you 948 00:33:22,309 --> 00:33:23,910 know, they're they wanna go through and do 949 00:33:23,910 --> 00:33:26,390 all their labs. Maybe they have a license 950 00:33:26,390 --> 00:33:28,070 at work, but they're maybe they're learning at 951 00:33:28,070 --> 00:33:29,750 home. Yeah. So it's great that they can 952 00:33:29,750 --> 00:33:31,269 just go up there, grab a twenty one 953 00:33:31,269 --> 00:33:32,970 day when they're ready to do their labs. 954 00:33:33,045 --> 00:33:35,285 Don't do it before. They can't reset that 955 00:33:35,285 --> 00:33:37,205 twenty one days. But when they're done the 956 00:33:37,205 --> 00:33:38,484 course, they're like, oh, yeah. I'm gonna do 957 00:33:38,484 --> 00:33:40,325 my hands on. You know, they can go 958 00:33:40,325 --> 00:33:42,164 get a a trial for home. And, of 959 00:33:42,164 --> 00:33:43,445 course, they could do that with the cloud 960 00:33:43,445 --> 00:33:45,045 too. They don't actually have to download and 961 00:33:45,045 --> 00:33:46,869 install it on their own PC. Right? They 962 00:33:46,869 --> 00:33:48,309 could do a trial in the cloud as 963 00:33:48,309 --> 00:33:50,169 well as we've covered on the show previously. 964 00:33:50,789 --> 00:33:53,589 Yep. Exactly. Yep. So that that might be 965 00:33:53,589 --> 00:33:55,269 a a tech tip that we show, hey, 966 00:33:55,269 --> 00:33:57,029 how to get started with TF portal that 967 00:33:57,029 --> 00:33:58,649 I was thinking that we would do 968 00:33:58,950 --> 00:34:00,470 in the next week or so, one of 969 00:34:00,470 --> 00:34:01,690 the key things to help. 970 00:34:01,990 --> 00:34:03,755 Of course, this is another tech tip that 971 00:34:03,755 --> 00:34:05,434 we talked about doing was, you know, making 972 00:34:05,434 --> 00:34:07,214 an upgrade to v 21. 973 00:34:07,275 --> 00:34:08,574 The v 21 974 00:34:08,715 --> 00:34:10,954 will open anything as far back as v 975 00:34:10,954 --> 00:34:12,734 14. So I just basically 976 00:34:13,195 --> 00:34:15,355 select the project, and it's gonna do this 977 00:34:15,355 --> 00:34:17,570 little upgrade. I just did 978 00:34:17,950 --> 00:34:20,190 a test to see before I installed start 979 00:34:20,190 --> 00:34:22,750 drive that I needed to make the installation 980 00:34:22,750 --> 00:34:24,910 of the start drive because my project had 981 00:34:24,910 --> 00:34:26,670 drives in it. But that was no big 982 00:34:26,670 --> 00:34:28,349 deal. I installed start drive, and then I 983 00:34:28,349 --> 00:34:30,430 was able to complete the upgrade. But that 984 00:34:30,510 --> 00:34:32,025 that's another topic that I think we can 985 00:34:32,025 --> 00:34:33,944 do as a would affect the base. How 986 00:34:33,944 --> 00:34:35,405 easy is it to upgrade 987 00:34:35,944 --> 00:34:37,085 on my v 21? 988 00:34:37,224 --> 00:34:39,164 And if you have a V21 license, 989 00:34:40,025 --> 00:34:42,184 that license is good for v 20 and 990 00:34:42,184 --> 00:34:43,864 v 19 and v 18 and so on. 991 00:34:43,864 --> 00:34:44,364 Right? 992 00:34:44,664 --> 00:34:47,650 Correct. Yep. So if you're upgrading from 15 993 00:34:47,650 --> 00:34:49,829 or 16 or 17 to 21, 994 00:34:50,050 --> 00:34:52,390 you'll also have a license that works with 995 00:34:52,530 --> 00:34:54,550 all the previous versions down to 996 00:34:55,010 --> 00:34:56,610 is it v 14 or is it v 997 00:34:56,610 --> 00:34:58,849 16? I know that license goes back so 998 00:34:58,849 --> 00:34:59,349 far. 999 00:34:59,855 --> 00:35:01,454 There's step seven that'll go back to v 1000 00:35:01,454 --> 00:35:04,094 11. So, yeah, if I'm a user and 1001 00:35:04,094 --> 00:35:06,094 I have t f portal v 19 on 1002 00:35:06,094 --> 00:35:06,835 my computer, 1003 00:35:07,135 --> 00:35:09,214 my projects are v 19, my license is 1004 00:35:09,214 --> 00:35:09,875 v 19. 1005 00:35:10,335 --> 00:35:12,400 Right now, let's say that I just do 1006 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,579 the installation of v 21 1007 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:16,179 and I upgrade my licenses, 1008 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,900 my v 19 step seven, my v 1009 00:35:19,199 --> 00:35:21,619 19 WinCC and safety will upgrade 1010 00:35:22,159 --> 00:35:24,480 to a v 21 license. And when I 1011 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:25,619 launch v 19, 1012 00:35:26,105 --> 00:35:28,924 it will still see that v 21 license 1013 00:35:29,385 --> 00:35:31,324 as licensing for my v 19. 1014 00:35:31,625 --> 00:35:34,904 Nice. And same with basically, step seven goes 1015 00:35:34,904 --> 00:35:35,404 back 1016 00:35:35,704 --> 00:35:38,744 to v 11. WinCC Unified goes back to 1017 00:35:38,744 --> 00:35:41,739 v 16 when Unified was introduced. So there's 1018 00:35:41,739 --> 00:35:43,900 there's some differences in some of those things, 1019 00:35:43,900 --> 00:35:45,760 but our objective is that 1020 00:35:46,140 --> 00:35:48,539 a user that's running the machine at v 1021 00:35:48,539 --> 00:35:49,039 19 1022 00:35:49,660 --> 00:35:50,480 can upgrade 1023 00:35:51,420 --> 00:35:54,320 his workstation to v 21, upgrade his licenses 1024 00:35:54,380 --> 00:35:56,324 to v 21, and he can still work 1025 00:35:56,324 --> 00:35:58,885 in v 19 on the machine and do 1026 00:35:58,885 --> 00:36:00,565 everything that he still needs to do with 1027 00:36:00,565 --> 00:36:01,704 his equipment. 1028 00:36:02,244 --> 00:36:04,724 And then he could work on an a 1029 00:36:04,724 --> 00:36:05,445 new PLC, 1030 00:36:06,085 --> 00:36:08,644 an add on somewhere else that is using 1031 00:36:08,644 --> 00:36:10,619 the latest and greatest stuff. Yeah. That means 1032 00:36:10,619 --> 00:36:11,819 too. If you have a plant full of 1033 00:36:11,819 --> 00:36:12,559 v 18 1034 00:36:13,179 --> 00:36:14,639 and you need one more license, 1035 00:36:14,940 --> 00:36:16,699 that license is gonna work on a new 1036 00:36:16,699 --> 00:36:18,779 laptop on v 18 as well as v 1037 00:36:18,779 --> 00:36:19,679 21. 1038 00:36:19,739 --> 00:36:21,500 Yep. So it's just it's just the way 1039 00:36:21,579 --> 00:36:23,679 it just it's it's very well thought through. 1040 00:36:23,739 --> 00:36:24,559 Yeah. Exactly. 1041 00:36:24,875 --> 00:36:26,795 So I I do get that exact same 1042 00:36:26,795 --> 00:36:28,875 thing where, hey. I I I I I 1043 00:36:28,875 --> 00:36:29,855 want B 18. 1044 00:36:30,155 --> 00:36:31,914 I need a new installation. I need a 1045 00:36:31,914 --> 00:36:34,255 new license. I'm like, buy B 21. 1046 00:36:34,554 --> 00:36:36,574 The license will work for B 18. 1047 00:36:36,875 --> 00:36:38,795 You can download B 18 on our support 1048 00:36:38,795 --> 00:36:40,650 site. So I tried to keep this to 1049 00:36:40,650 --> 00:36:42,670 a short minimum so that it was digestible 1050 00:36:43,130 --> 00:36:44,010 by your audience. 1051 00:36:44,650 --> 00:36:46,809 Like you and I talked about, there's some 1052 00:36:46,809 --> 00:36:49,769 tech tip topics that we could break into. 1053 00:36:49,769 --> 00:36:51,230 These are just some of my suggestions 1054 00:36:51,769 --> 00:36:53,369 that we do in the next that I 1055 00:36:53,369 --> 00:36:55,214 think will you know, how to get started, 1056 00:36:55,275 --> 00:36:56,875 you know, with the with the cloud or 1057 00:36:56,875 --> 00:36:58,414 the DVD one, DVD 1058 00:36:58,875 --> 00:36:59,855 PLC sim. 1059 00:37:00,234 --> 00:37:02,974 You and I talk about upgrading the licensing. 1060 00:37:03,114 --> 00:37:04,574 So in the case 1061 00:37:05,195 --> 00:37:07,640 you're a user that has a v 16 1062 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,739 step seven, a v 16, 1063 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:11,019 once you 1064 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:11,900 see unified, 1065 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,840 what does that look like when I get 1066 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:16,760 an upgrade license and how do I upgrade 1067 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,320 it, project update, and then some of these 1068 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:20,760 other topics that we can talk about in 1069 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,035 a minute. Yeah. That's awesome. And what we'll 1070 00:37:23,035 --> 00:37:25,195 try to do too is include that link 1071 00:37:25,195 --> 00:37:26,954 to the full slide deck for because I 1072 00:37:26,954 --> 00:37:28,074 know some of you out there are gonna 1073 00:37:28,074 --> 00:37:30,474 wanna know every gory detail to see how 1074 00:37:30,474 --> 00:37:31,675 it can help you in your day to 1075 00:37:31,675 --> 00:37:33,355 day. So we'll try to include that in 1076 00:37:33,355 --> 00:37:36,469 the description as well since it's published and 1077 00:37:36,469 --> 00:37:38,089 it's available on their website 1078 00:37:38,389 --> 00:37:40,069 as we saw on the previous slide. So 1079 00:37:40,069 --> 00:37:42,389 that's pretty awesome. And really appreciate you coming 1080 00:37:42,389 --> 00:37:43,829 back on, John, to do this. I know 1081 00:37:43,829 --> 00:37:45,829 the audience really loves to know what's new 1082 00:37:45,829 --> 00:37:48,010 and what's happening, what new features are available, 1083 00:37:48,264 --> 00:37:49,945 and, that was a pretty good list you 1084 00:37:49,945 --> 00:37:50,525 put together. 1085 00:37:51,224 --> 00:37:53,945 Yeah. Couple couple more things just before I 1086 00:37:53,945 --> 00:37:57,065 sign off. Our our somatic PG, our laptop 1087 00:37:57,065 --> 00:37:58,984 computer, these are pretty powerful. These are pretty 1088 00:37:59,144 --> 00:38:00,824 I think you have the old m six. 1089 00:38:00,824 --> 00:38:02,420 These things are leaner, 1090 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,280 tighter, smaller. And, actually, last night when I 1091 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:06,880 left the restaurant, it fell out of my 1092 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,760 truck, and, and it survived. Hit the ice 1093 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,400 and snow, and it was on it just 1094 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,639 slipped over the top of the clothes that 1095 00:38:14,639 --> 00:38:15,839 I had in in the back of the 1096 00:38:15,839 --> 00:38:17,994 truck. But it landed on its on its 1097 00:38:17,994 --> 00:38:19,994 edge, and it still works today. But what's 1098 00:38:19,994 --> 00:38:22,074 cool about that is is the MD 57 1099 00:38:22,074 --> 00:38:24,315 a, somatic PG, I call it, but it 1100 00:38:24,315 --> 00:38:26,715 does deliver a fee 21. And then the 1101 00:38:26,715 --> 00:38:28,554 other two topics, I don't know have you 1102 00:38:28,554 --> 00:38:29,855 met Kristen Quasi? 1103 00:38:30,349 --> 00:38:32,190 We had Kristen on to go over industrial 1104 00:38:32,190 --> 00:38:32,690 computers. 1105 00:38:33,390 --> 00:38:35,469 Oh, yeah. That's right. And the yep. She 1106 00:38:35,469 --> 00:38:36,610 was the IPC. 1107 00:38:37,469 --> 00:38:40,030 She's now kind of taken over a new 1108 00:38:40,030 --> 00:38:42,924 role related to our our next next gen 1109 00:38:42,924 --> 00:38:45,005 topics. So this is her and I working 1110 00:38:45,005 --> 00:38:46,144 together, MIA, 1111 00:38:46,844 --> 00:38:49,405 last May, looking into the crystal ball into 1112 00:38:49,405 --> 00:38:51,324 the future. So I I talked to her 1113 00:38:51,324 --> 00:38:52,844 about getting on the on the on the 1114 00:38:52,844 --> 00:38:55,500 call to talk about our industrial copilot for 1115 00:38:55,500 --> 00:38:57,840 engineering for TF portal. Oh, yeah. Great. 1116 00:38:58,380 --> 00:39:00,380 So we'll do that in the next month 1117 00:39:00,380 --> 00:39:02,940 or two. And then the next generation is 1118 00:39:02,940 --> 00:39:04,400 gonna be this Medic AX 1119 00:39:04,940 --> 00:39:05,440 toolset 1120 00:39:05,739 --> 00:39:07,820 that gives users that wanna be in that 1121 00:39:07,820 --> 00:39:10,635 Versus code editor the ability to to code 1122 00:39:10,635 --> 00:39:12,474 in a different way than what what they 1123 00:39:12,474 --> 00:39:14,075 do today with TF portal. But there'll be 1124 00:39:14,075 --> 00:39:14,655 an overlap. 1125 00:39:15,195 --> 00:39:16,015 Thanks, Sean. 1126 00:39:16,394 --> 00:39:18,235 I really appreciate the time to kinda just 1127 00:39:18,235 --> 00:39:19,295 give your folks 1128 00:39:19,675 --> 00:39:21,275 an overview and then how to go out 1129 00:39:21,275 --> 00:39:23,070 there. I'll send you the links on how 1130 00:39:23,070 --> 00:39:25,010 to get to to to more information 1131 00:39:25,309 --> 00:39:26,670 so that they can learn more about it, 1132 00:39:26,670 --> 00:39:28,349 and they can always reach out to us 1133 00:39:28,349 --> 00:39:31,090 on, you know, your email, your social media, 1134 00:39:31,150 --> 00:39:31,890 or LinkedIn. 1135 00:39:32,670 --> 00:39:34,190 Yeah. I appreciate it. I try to check 1136 00:39:34,190 --> 00:39:36,494 that at least every day or two. Appreciate 1137 00:39:36,494 --> 00:39:39,375 everybody who, puts, questions up there on any 1138 00:39:39,375 --> 00:39:40,194 of the platforms. 1139 00:39:40,734 --> 00:39:42,335 Really appreciate you guys. I do try to 1140 00:39:42,335 --> 00:39:44,414 check them and, you know, finances when I 1141 00:39:44,414 --> 00:39:46,414 can. But in any case, John, thank you 1142 00:39:46,414 --> 00:39:47,775 again for coming on the show and bringing 1143 00:39:47,775 --> 00:39:49,315 us up to speed on TA portal 1144 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,559 v 21. Well, I hope you enjoyed that 1145 00:39:51,559 --> 00:39:53,239 episode, and I wanna thank John again for 1146 00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,000 taking time out of his busy schedule to 1147 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:56,680 come on the show and bring us up 1148 00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:58,059 to speed on TIA Portal 1149 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,599 version 21. I also wanna thank John for 1150 00:40:00,599 --> 00:40:02,380 providing the links in the description. 1151 00:40:02,684 --> 00:40:04,285 So if you guys wanna learn more, they're 1152 00:40:04,285 --> 00:40:07,085 all right there. I also wanna thank Siemens 1153 00:40:07,085 --> 00:40:10,045 for sponsoring this episode, helping underwrite some of 1154 00:40:10,045 --> 00:40:11,505 our course to produce it. 1155 00:40:11,805 --> 00:40:14,125 And, in appreciation, we released it on all 1156 00:40:14,125 --> 00:40:16,364 platforms ad free, and, of course, include those 1157 00:40:16,364 --> 00:40:17,425 links in the description. 1158 00:40:18,090 --> 00:40:19,849 That said, I also wanna thank you for 1159 00:40:19,849 --> 00:40:21,130 tuning in this week. You know, if you 1160 00:40:21,130 --> 00:40:22,430 have any thoughts or comments 1161 00:40:22,890 --> 00:40:25,369 on this week's episode, please leave them in 1162 00:40:25,369 --> 00:40:27,951 the comment area wherever you're watching this. And 1163 00:40:27,951 --> 00:40:29,951 I also wanna wish you all good health 1164 00:40:29,951 --> 00:40:32,451 and happiness. And until next time, my friends, 1165 00:40:33,311 --> 00:40:33,811 peace.