1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:02,240 Hey, everybody. Thank you for tuning back in 2 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:04,639 to the automation podcast. Sean Tierney here with 3 00:00:04,639 --> 00:00:07,459 Insights. And in today's episode, I wanna recap 4 00:00:07,679 --> 00:00:09,859 my trip to Schneider Electric's 5 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:14,125 Innovation Summit in Las Vegas, and it was 6 00:00:14,125 --> 00:00:15,664 November. 7 00:00:15,804 --> 00:00:17,484 So I am recording this during the week 8 00:00:17,484 --> 00:00:18,925 of Thanksgiving, and it will come out the 9 00:00:18,925 --> 00:00:21,244 following week. And so you guys are seeing 10 00:00:21,244 --> 00:00:21,564 this, 11 00:00:22,285 --> 00:00:23,744 early December, late November. 12 00:00:24,125 --> 00:00:26,445 And, I wanted to film this though this 13 00:00:26,445 --> 00:00:29,449 week of Thanksgiving because I wanted to kinda 14 00:00:29,449 --> 00:00:31,449 share all my thoughts and what I've seen 15 00:00:31,449 --> 00:00:33,289 and everything while it was still fresh in 16 00:00:33,289 --> 00:00:36,409 my mind. And, if you're watching this, you 17 00:00:36,409 --> 00:00:38,010 can see that I'm in my office this 18 00:00:38,010 --> 00:00:41,049 time recording here. And, I get a little 19 00:00:41,049 --> 00:00:43,289 presentation I'm gonna walk through that's gonna help 20 00:00:43,289 --> 00:00:45,155 me as I discuss this. You're not gonna 21 00:00:45,155 --> 00:00:47,475 miss anything if you're listening, but, it'll help 22 00:00:47,475 --> 00:00:49,634 me kinda with, you know, different topics I 23 00:00:49,634 --> 00:00:51,714 wanna talk about and cover. So in any 24 00:00:51,714 --> 00:00:53,234 case, before we get to any of that, 25 00:00:53,234 --> 00:00:55,094 as you probably know, we've covered 26 00:00:55,475 --> 00:00:57,780 Schneider Electric quite a bit since 2022 when 27 00:00:57,780 --> 00:00:59,879 Louis Arone came on to talk about automation 28 00:00:59,939 --> 00:01:01,960 expert and universal IO. 29 00:01:02,500 --> 00:01:03,000 And 30 00:01:03,379 --> 00:01:05,939 I thought that was interesting, but that wasn't 31 00:01:05,939 --> 00:01:08,340 really, I think, a good introduction to the 32 00:01:08,340 --> 00:01:10,500 whole of Schneider Electric, and it wasn't meant 33 00:01:10,500 --> 00:01:12,744 to be. You know, then way later, we 34 00:01:12,744 --> 00:01:15,084 had, Jay Cortell arranged several interviews. 35 00:01:15,584 --> 00:01:17,224 I think the first was with Joel and 36 00:01:17,224 --> 00:01:17,724 Mahoa 37 00:01:18,424 --> 00:01:22,204 on their machine level PLCs. That's the Modicon 38 00:01:22,344 --> 00:01:23,965 PLCs and the, 39 00:01:24,905 --> 00:01:28,250 machine expert development software. Of course, everything's named 40 00:01:28,250 --> 00:01:28,750 EcoStruxure 41 00:01:29,049 --> 00:01:30,349 from, Schneider Electric. 42 00:01:30,810 --> 00:01:31,370 And then, 43 00:01:31,849 --> 00:01:34,010 you know, we had drives on. We had, 44 00:01:34,409 --> 00:01:36,010 actually, we had we talked about drives a 45 00:01:36,010 --> 00:01:37,850 couple different times. We talked about HMIs. We 46 00:01:37,850 --> 00:01:38,829 talked about IPCs. 47 00:01:39,915 --> 00:01:41,114 We talked about all kinds of stuff. We 48 00:01:41,114 --> 00:01:43,454 even had the TSYS Island folks on. 49 00:01:43,754 --> 00:01:45,274 So all of those episodes, you know, I'll 50 00:01:45,274 --> 00:01:46,634 put something up on the screen, and I'll 51 00:01:46,634 --> 00:01:48,474 put links in the description. So if you 52 00:01:48,474 --> 00:01:51,055 wanna go check those the previous episodes out, 53 00:01:51,594 --> 00:01:54,219 you can. And, just a lot of great 54 00:01:54,219 --> 00:01:56,700 information that I've learned over since 2022 about 55 00:01:56,700 --> 00:01:59,019 Schneider, because previous to that, I really only 56 00:01:59,019 --> 00:02:00,379 had spent a lot of time with Rockwell 57 00:02:00,379 --> 00:02:01,040 and Siemens. 58 00:02:01,420 --> 00:02:04,379 So, just, very interesting stuff. I know there's 59 00:02:04,379 --> 00:02:06,219 a lot of Schneider users out there too. 60 00:02:06,219 --> 00:02:06,614 So, 61 00:02:07,655 --> 00:02:08,634 in any case, 62 00:02:09,655 --> 00:02:11,495 then, of course, this year, we got a 63 00:02:11,574 --> 00:02:13,735 we got our first Monacan PLC, so we 64 00:02:13,735 --> 00:02:17,094 did a first time programming that. And, we 65 00:02:17,094 --> 00:02:17,594 also, 66 00:02:18,455 --> 00:02:18,955 was 67 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:21,599 sponsored to take a look at their new 68 00:02:21,599 --> 00:02:23,620 Edge IO NTS platform, 69 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:25,360 which I thought was really cool, and I 70 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,360 did, like, almost an hour episode on that. 71 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:27,919 You guys, 72 00:02:28,319 --> 00:02:29,939 saw that a week or two ago. 73 00:02:30,319 --> 00:02:32,900 And, just it was just a blast unboxing 74 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:34,639 a box of IO and using it for 75 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:37,574 the first time. And so, Schneider had approached 76 00:02:37,574 --> 00:02:39,734 me earlier in the year about, actually, two 77 00:02:39,734 --> 00:02:41,655 different sponsorships. They wanted me to come out 78 00:02:41,655 --> 00:02:42,555 to their show, 79 00:02:43,014 --> 00:02:45,094 and, and I talked to other people about 80 00:02:45,094 --> 00:02:46,694 their shows, and I was getting crickets. So 81 00:02:46,694 --> 00:02:48,534 when Schneider said, hey. Do you wanna come 82 00:02:48,534 --> 00:02:49,870 out and do, like, six, 83 00:02:50,489 --> 00:02:52,169 interviews at the show? I said, yes. And 84 00:02:52,169 --> 00:02:54,030 then they later contacted me and said, hey. 85 00:02:54,169 --> 00:02:55,930 Can we get you to do three sponsored 86 00:02:55,930 --> 00:02:58,189 videos as well? I'm like, yes. 87 00:02:58,569 --> 00:03:00,729 This is great. Right? So, these type of 88 00:03:00,729 --> 00:03:02,729 sponsorships make it affordable to go to these 89 00:03:02,729 --> 00:03:05,034 shows because if the show's not local, I 90 00:03:05,034 --> 00:03:06,555 mean, there's a couple thousand dollars with just 91 00:03:06,555 --> 00:03:08,634 in expenses alone. I know. I just did 92 00:03:08,634 --> 00:03:09,294 my expenses. 93 00:03:09,594 --> 00:03:09,914 And, 94 00:03:10,474 --> 00:03:12,155 so they help cover that, and then we 95 00:03:12,155 --> 00:03:13,754 get content out of it. Right? Because just 96 00:03:13,754 --> 00:03:14,894 walking around a show, 97 00:03:15,194 --> 00:03:17,354 that doesn't provide any content, really. I mean, 98 00:03:17,354 --> 00:03:19,034 you can generate content out of it. But 99 00:03:19,034 --> 00:03:20,014 if it's not sponsored, 100 00:03:20,379 --> 00:03:21,659 you know, this is it's not like we're 101 00:03:21,659 --> 00:03:24,379 in the health or, you know, beauty or 102 00:03:24,379 --> 00:03:24,879 fitness 103 00:03:25,259 --> 00:03:27,180 segments where we're gonna get millions of views 104 00:03:27,180 --> 00:03:29,199 and actually make a decent money on ads. 105 00:03:29,500 --> 00:03:30,560 This is a small, 106 00:03:30,939 --> 00:03:32,719 tight knit group of engineers, 107 00:03:33,205 --> 00:03:36,185 electricians, and technicians who use PLCs, HMI, SCADA, 108 00:03:36,645 --> 00:03:39,525 VFD sensors. And, you know, there's only about 109 00:03:39,525 --> 00:03:41,284 80,000 of us, maybe a little bit more, 110 00:03:41,284 --> 00:03:42,965 maybe a little bit less. So there's not 111 00:03:42,965 --> 00:03:44,884 enough ad revenue out there to to, 112 00:03:45,284 --> 00:03:46,504 to to kinda random, 113 00:03:47,180 --> 00:03:49,900 episodes. So in any case, that said, I 114 00:03:49,900 --> 00:03:50,799 did want to, 115 00:03:51,580 --> 00:03:53,500 take this opportunity to go to the summit. 116 00:03:53,500 --> 00:03:55,519 First time I've been to a Schneider event. 117 00:03:55,819 --> 00:03:57,580 And, let me go ahead and pull up 118 00:03:57,580 --> 00:03:57,819 the, 119 00:03:58,620 --> 00:04:01,280 screen here. And this event really had, 120 00:04:02,284 --> 00:04:04,784 three different audiences it was targeting. 121 00:04:05,245 --> 00:04:08,284 And the first audience was the industry people 122 00:04:08,284 --> 00:04:10,625 like me, people who are interested in PLCs, 123 00:04:10,685 --> 00:04:11,185 HMI, 124 00:04:11,564 --> 00:04:12,784 that kind of stuff. Right? 125 00:04:13,405 --> 00:04:16,125 VFDs, soft starters, you know, the whole, ball 126 00:04:16,125 --> 00:04:17,819 of wax. And then 127 00:04:18,199 --> 00:04:21,400 the second group they are, targeting was power. 128 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:23,879 People who have to do things with power 129 00:04:23,879 --> 00:04:25,660 generation or power utilization. 130 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:28,199 Right? And that's really not my ball of 131 00:04:28,199 --> 00:04:30,680 wax. And then the third, group was data 132 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:32,704 center people. Right? And the power and the 133 00:04:32,704 --> 00:04:34,164 data center are really kinda 134 00:04:34,464 --> 00:04:36,944 coming together because of all the data centers 135 00:04:36,944 --> 00:04:39,985 being built in America. Right? And so it 136 00:04:39,985 --> 00:04:42,464 was really these three tiers they were, focused 137 00:04:42,464 --> 00:04:45,104 on. I think they were aiming for around 138 00:04:45,104 --> 00:04:45,664 2,000, 139 00:04:45,985 --> 00:04:48,919 customers to show up or maybe that's 2,000 140 00:04:48,919 --> 00:04:51,879 total. I don't know. But, it's not, in 141 00:04:51,879 --> 00:04:54,120 in line with the biggest events you would 142 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,919 had anywhere. And I also think because they 143 00:04:56,919 --> 00:04:59,319 had three different segments, which makes sense because 144 00:04:59,319 --> 00:05:00,615 the company does it all, 145 00:05:01,814 --> 00:05:03,834 you know, I don't know if they targeted 146 00:05:04,055 --> 00:05:05,115 a lot of, 147 00:05:05,574 --> 00:05:08,935 you know, the industry people, especially when energy 148 00:05:08,935 --> 00:05:10,454 is so hot, right, and data centers are 149 00:05:10,454 --> 00:05:12,055 so hot. But there were some there, and 150 00:05:12,055 --> 00:05:13,574 there were a lot of industry products there. 151 00:05:13,574 --> 00:05:15,014 I would say they probably had a third 152 00:05:15,014 --> 00:05:17,180 of the floor. I didn't measure, but that's 153 00:05:17,180 --> 00:05:18,800 just my opinion. And, 154 00:05:19,740 --> 00:05:20,860 in any case, so, 155 00:05:21,259 --> 00:05:22,860 I went out there, and I kinda learned 156 00:05:22,860 --> 00:05:24,480 a lot of this while I was there. 157 00:05:24,540 --> 00:05:26,220 But, in any case, if you look at 158 00:05:26,220 --> 00:05:27,899 the if you're watching the screen, you can 159 00:05:27,899 --> 00:05:29,644 see the the website. And I'll try to 160 00:05:29,644 --> 00:05:30,464 include links, 161 00:05:30,925 --> 00:05:32,305 to anything I talk about, 162 00:05:33,084 --> 00:05:33,824 in the description, 163 00:05:34,204 --> 00:05:36,785 but, you know, on both audio and video. 164 00:05:37,004 --> 00:05:39,004 But, you know, if you wanna go and 165 00:05:39,004 --> 00:05:40,685 check out what was there. But here is 166 00:05:40,845 --> 00:05:44,220 the subtitle is energy tech, automation, AI, and 167 00:05:44,220 --> 00:05:44,720 grid. 168 00:05:45,020 --> 00:05:47,420 So AI was kind of with woven between 169 00:05:47,420 --> 00:05:49,980 everything. As you imagine, it's a topic these 170 00:05:49,980 --> 00:05:52,060 days. Right? So let me get my mouse 171 00:05:52,060 --> 00:05:54,319 onto the right screen here, and 172 00:05:55,115 --> 00:05:56,875 let's go to the next slide. So we 173 00:05:56,875 --> 00:05:58,254 stayed at the Fontainebleau 174 00:05:59,115 --> 00:05:59,615 Fontainebleau, 175 00:06:00,714 --> 00:06:01,214 Fontainebleau, 176 00:06:02,634 --> 00:06:03,134 hotel, 177 00:06:03,514 --> 00:06:05,995 and this hotel was a fairly new hotel. 178 00:06:05,995 --> 00:06:07,914 I think it was built in 2023 179 00:06:07,914 --> 00:06:09,540 or opened in 2023, 180 00:06:09,779 --> 00:06:12,439 And I I really like the conference section, 181 00:06:13,540 --> 00:06:15,379 although it was quite a walk from the 182 00:06:15,379 --> 00:06:15,879 hotel, 183 00:06:16,420 --> 00:06:19,060 and they obviously make you walk through their 184 00:06:19,060 --> 00:06:21,139 casino to do that. So or the edge 185 00:06:21,139 --> 00:06:21,960 of their casino 186 00:06:22,634 --> 00:06:24,794 And, which, you know, it's Las Vegas, so 187 00:06:24,794 --> 00:06:27,675 that's expected. They even the airport made you 188 00:06:27,675 --> 00:06:29,694 walk through the airport casino. It's like 189 00:06:30,074 --> 00:06:31,834 they're just trying to get you to gamble, 190 00:06:31,834 --> 00:06:33,694 I guess. I don't know. I always lose, 191 00:06:34,154 --> 00:06:36,569 so I don't I don't gamble because every 192 00:06:36,569 --> 00:06:38,729 time I've gambled, I've lost. I don't think 193 00:06:38,729 --> 00:06:41,129 I've ever won much at all. So it's 194 00:06:41,129 --> 00:06:43,209 really just throwing money away from me. But 195 00:06:43,209 --> 00:06:44,029 in any case, 196 00:06:45,289 --> 00:06:47,129 yeah. So this facility was really cool. It 197 00:06:47,129 --> 00:06:47,769 was good for, 198 00:06:48,889 --> 00:06:50,029 conventions and whatnot. 199 00:06:50,504 --> 00:06:52,025 I think if I did this again, I'd 200 00:06:52,025 --> 00:06:53,944 probably just stay at a Holiday Inn Express 201 00:06:53,944 --> 00:06:55,384 and rent the car, and I'm gonna tell 202 00:06:55,384 --> 00:06:57,865 you why. This it's so nice to be 203 00:06:57,865 --> 00:07:00,365 at the hotel, but being an East Coaster. 204 00:07:00,425 --> 00:07:02,845 Right? So I'm usually drinking coffee 205 00:07:03,225 --> 00:07:05,550 probably before 05:00 every morning. 206 00:07:06,110 --> 00:07:08,750 Well, 05:00, you know, 05:00 eastern time, there 207 00:07:08,750 --> 00:07:12,029 was nothing open. There was nothing open until, 208 00:07:12,029 --> 00:07:13,250 like, eight or nine eastern 209 00:07:14,110 --> 00:07:15,169 in Las Vegas. 210 00:07:15,470 --> 00:07:17,229 So how do you get coffee? Well, you 211 00:07:17,229 --> 00:07:18,990 think you're gonna, you know, you're gonna get 212 00:07:18,990 --> 00:07:20,834 it in your room? No. That's one of 213 00:07:20,834 --> 00:07:22,274 the things that this hotel did not do. 214 00:07:22,274 --> 00:07:23,634 They did not have coffee in the room. 215 00:07:23,634 --> 00:07:25,954 So, you know, I thought, should I travel 216 00:07:25,954 --> 00:07:28,035 with a coffee pot or just stay somewhere 217 00:07:28,035 --> 00:07:30,274 else next time? But, if you don't drink 218 00:07:30,274 --> 00:07:32,220 coffee, probably not a big deal for you. 219 00:07:32,379 --> 00:07:34,459 Although, I will say, you know, being used 220 00:07:34,459 --> 00:07:36,639 to getting up and eating breakfast at 5AM, 221 00:07:36,939 --> 00:07:39,500 the room service is, like all these hotels 222 00:07:39,500 --> 00:07:40,779 that run $3,400 223 00:07:40,779 --> 00:07:43,040 a night, extremely expensive. So, 224 00:07:43,819 --> 00:07:45,834 me, just give me a Dunkin' Donuts coffee 225 00:07:45,834 --> 00:07:47,354 and a sandwich, and I'm gonna be happy 226 00:07:47,354 --> 00:07:49,115 every morning. Not that's that's what I eat 227 00:07:49,115 --> 00:07:50,014 every morning, but, 228 00:07:50,394 --> 00:07:52,314 when I'm traveling, that that'll put a smile 229 00:07:52,314 --> 00:07:54,314 on my face every morning. So in any 230 00:07:54,314 --> 00:07:56,314 case, that was, that was tough. Now I'm 231 00:07:56,314 --> 00:07:57,675 having the coffee in the morning, and I 232 00:07:57,675 --> 00:07:59,539 ended up paying for some of that very 233 00:07:59,539 --> 00:08:01,319 expensive coffee at some point because 234 00:08:01,620 --> 00:08:03,000 I just needed my coffee. 235 00:08:03,459 --> 00:08:03,779 But, 236 00:08:04,339 --> 00:08:06,419 once you get over out of your hotel 237 00:08:06,419 --> 00:08:07,779 in the morning and you went over to 238 00:08:07,779 --> 00:08:09,300 the actually, where the show was in the 239 00:08:09,539 --> 00:08:11,539 you know, down that long corridor and then 240 00:08:11,539 --> 00:08:14,564 up the the other flight of elevators to 241 00:08:14,564 --> 00:08:15,944 get to the convention area. 242 00:08:16,485 --> 00:08:19,285 They had this beautiful registration booth. You walk 243 00:08:19,285 --> 00:08:20,725 up to a tablet. You put your name 244 00:08:20,725 --> 00:08:21,865 in. Hit print, 245 00:08:22,324 --> 00:08:24,564 badge. Somebody behind the counter gives you a 246 00:08:24,564 --> 00:08:26,649 badge. It was very nicely done. And the 247 00:08:26,649 --> 00:08:28,490 other thing I liked was that they had 248 00:08:28,490 --> 00:08:29,949 these huge displays. 249 00:08:31,129 --> 00:08:33,129 I wouldn't call them TVs. They're just huge, 250 00:08:33,129 --> 00:08:35,850 huge displays behind them that had the whole 251 00:08:35,850 --> 00:08:37,470 agenda for the day. 252 00:08:37,850 --> 00:08:39,370 So I thought that was great because if 253 00:08:39,370 --> 00:08:40,745 you're, like, you didn't have to pull out 254 00:08:40,825 --> 00:08:42,024 you know, if you're talking to somebody, hey. 255 00:08:42,024 --> 00:08:43,144 You wanna go see this? You wanna go 256 00:08:43,144 --> 00:08:44,504 see that? You didn't have to pull out 257 00:08:44,504 --> 00:08:46,184 your phone. But I will say their app 258 00:08:46,184 --> 00:08:48,745 was excellent. I really and I've used a 259 00:08:48,745 --> 00:08:50,924 lot of these apps. They're usually excellent. 260 00:08:51,225 --> 00:08:52,825 Their app was excellent. I give their app 261 00:08:52,825 --> 00:08:54,879 five out of five stars because it was 262 00:08:54,879 --> 00:08:57,440 just really easy to use, and my my, 263 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:00,959 emailed agenda that was through the marketing firm 264 00:09:00,959 --> 00:09:03,120 didn't have all the correct room numbers, but 265 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,759 the app had everything correct. So, in any 266 00:09:05,759 --> 00:09:08,879 case, great app, great registration desk, very friendly, 267 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,164 Schneider people. And so the first thing I 268 00:09:11,164 --> 00:09:12,924 did was, beginning of the show, a lot 269 00:09:12,924 --> 00:09:14,605 of times you'll have this media breakfast you 270 00:09:14,605 --> 00:09:16,764 go to. Right? And so a media breakfast 271 00:09:16,764 --> 00:09:18,605 is where you hear what the company wants 272 00:09:18,605 --> 00:09:19,745 the media to publish. 273 00:09:20,205 --> 00:09:22,044 Okay? And so you go to a standard 274 00:09:22,044 --> 00:09:24,705 breakfast and just chat with other attendees, but, 275 00:09:24,830 --> 00:09:27,090 you know, I I'm there as media. Right? 276 00:09:27,149 --> 00:09:28,750 I'm here to do interviews. I'm here to 277 00:09:28,750 --> 00:09:30,909 create videos, sponsored videos. So I'm like, I'm 278 00:09:30,909 --> 00:09:32,509 gonna go to the media breakfast. And I 279 00:09:32,509 --> 00:09:34,269 was a little disappointed because usually when I 280 00:09:34,269 --> 00:09:37,304 hear media breakfast, I'm thinking breakfast. This is 281 00:09:37,304 --> 00:09:38,365 like a light 282 00:09:38,745 --> 00:09:40,845 continental. Right? And and, again, 283 00:09:41,384 --> 00:09:42,825 as somebody who eats at 05:00 in the 284 00:09:42,825 --> 00:09:44,904 morning when your when your media breakfast says 285 00:09:44,904 --> 00:09:47,465 07:30 and there's really no edible food unless 286 00:09:47,465 --> 00:09:48,445 you like continental 287 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:50,519 kind of stuff. And it wasn't like the 288 00:09:50,519 --> 00:09:52,379 bagels and donuts either. So, 289 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:54,519 but in any case, that that's on the 290 00:09:54,519 --> 00:09:56,519 hotel. That's what they do. And, 291 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,259 you know, no no ding against Schneider. 292 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:01,160 But in any case, I thought this was 293 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:04,024 very interesting. Not having known much about what 294 00:10:04,024 --> 00:10:06,664 they do with the energy companies, they were 295 00:10:06,664 --> 00:10:09,705 sharing a whole portfolio of grid management software. 296 00:10:09,705 --> 00:10:11,544 So they got a bunch of five different 297 00:10:11,544 --> 00:10:12,044 packages 298 00:10:12,504 --> 00:10:15,784 of EcoStruxure just for grid, like managing assets 299 00:10:15,784 --> 00:10:19,139 and transmission operation. They call it the digital 300 00:10:19,139 --> 00:10:23,139 digital grid platform and, just some very interesting 301 00:10:23,139 --> 00:10:23,639 stuff. 302 00:10:24,100 --> 00:10:25,700 I actually took some pictures of the slides 303 00:10:25,700 --> 00:10:27,399 because I was like, this is really cool. 304 00:10:28,100 --> 00:10:29,985 You know, they they say they can boost 305 00:10:29,985 --> 00:10:33,184 up to 60% reduction in deployment time and 306 00:10:33,184 --> 00:10:35,284 all these other things. So very interesting. 307 00:10:35,824 --> 00:10:36,884 Lots of details, 308 00:10:37,745 --> 00:10:38,804 in in this presentation, 309 00:10:39,264 --> 00:10:41,345 and I thought it was, was very good. 310 00:10:41,345 --> 00:10:42,084 Even though, 311 00:10:42,850 --> 00:10:44,529 you know, it's not my bowl of wax. 312 00:10:44,529 --> 00:10:45,970 And and this is they were talking about 313 00:10:45,970 --> 00:10:48,610 this thing called the EcoStruxure Foresight, which is 314 00:10:48,610 --> 00:10:50,629 a new product that has AI built in, 315 00:10:50,690 --> 00:10:52,129 and, I'll talk about that a little bit 316 00:10:52,129 --> 00:10:54,529 more in a moment here. So, then we 317 00:10:54,529 --> 00:10:56,690 had the keynote. So this was actually quite 318 00:10:56,690 --> 00:10:58,434 a bit of ways from where we were. 319 00:10:58,434 --> 00:11:00,434 It's in the theater, so it was a 320 00:11:00,434 --> 00:11:02,615 good, I don't know, five minute walk 321 00:11:02,995 --> 00:11:04,514 to get from the, you know, I think 322 00:11:04,514 --> 00:11:06,615 we were in Floor 4 or Floor 6, 323 00:11:06,754 --> 00:11:08,514 down the elevator and then across to the 324 00:11:08,514 --> 00:11:10,995 theater. And, still in the same building, but 325 00:11:10,995 --> 00:11:12,615 in a different part of the complex. 326 00:11:13,049 --> 00:11:14,970 And, the theater that was really nice, I 327 00:11:14,970 --> 00:11:16,590 had took a lot of pictures of it. 328 00:11:16,889 --> 00:11:17,129 And, 329 00:11:17,850 --> 00:11:19,690 you know, I had two options for the 330 00:11:19,929 --> 00:11:21,289 let me just go ahead to the theater. 331 00:11:21,289 --> 00:11:22,970 I had two options where to sit. So 332 00:11:22,970 --> 00:11:24,809 one media group hired me to do videos 333 00:11:24,809 --> 00:11:26,774 that had front row seats. The other group 334 00:11:26,774 --> 00:11:29,014 that hired me to do podcasts or sponsored 335 00:11:29,014 --> 00:11:29,514 podcasts, 336 00:11:29,975 --> 00:11:31,335 they had a bit a back row. And 337 00:11:31,335 --> 00:11:32,855 I decided to do the back row just 338 00:11:32,855 --> 00:11:33,355 because 339 00:11:33,815 --> 00:11:35,335 the people sitting in the front, they look 340 00:11:35,335 --> 00:11:37,254 like they were shoulder to shoulder, like, they 341 00:11:37,254 --> 00:11:39,434 were in those regular just folding chairs, 342 00:11:40,309 --> 00:11:42,389 and they were packed pretty tight, I thought. 343 00:11:42,389 --> 00:11:43,750 And then in the back, I just had 344 00:11:43,750 --> 00:11:45,909 this beautiful view because I sat right along 345 00:11:45,909 --> 00:11:48,250 the aisle, and it was a comfy chair, 346 00:11:48,309 --> 00:11:50,730 not a, like, a a a dining chair. 347 00:11:51,029 --> 00:11:53,190 And, I just got this beautiful view of 348 00:11:53,190 --> 00:11:55,595 everything. Right? And, I I was just using 349 00:11:55,595 --> 00:11:57,274 my phone. I didn't I didn't bring any, 350 00:11:57,514 --> 00:11:59,835 any fancy camera equipment with me. I was 351 00:11:59,835 --> 00:12:01,754 actually told told that it would be better 352 00:12:01,754 --> 00:12:03,355 to get, for the videos to do it 353 00:12:03,355 --> 00:12:04,815 on my phone because it's, 354 00:12:05,434 --> 00:12:06,254 more authentic. 355 00:12:06,955 --> 00:12:09,149 But in any case, that's what they said. 356 00:12:09,389 --> 00:12:11,629 And, but it was a beautiful theater. Now 357 00:12:11,629 --> 00:12:13,870 they say online it holds up to 3,800 358 00:12:13,870 --> 00:12:14,370 people. 359 00:12:14,750 --> 00:12:16,110 I don't think if you look at the 360 00:12:16,110 --> 00:12:18,509 seating area in the front, beef before you 361 00:12:18,509 --> 00:12:20,430 get to these rows, I think I counted 362 00:12:20,430 --> 00:12:21,790 the chairs. Try to count the chairs. There's 363 00:12:21,790 --> 00:12:23,365 about a thousand people down there. So I 364 00:12:23,365 --> 00:12:26,404 would say they probably had between their 1,402,000 365 00:12:26,404 --> 00:12:27,465 people they were expecting 366 00:12:27,845 --> 00:12:28,825 come to the show. 367 00:12:29,205 --> 00:12:29,605 And, 368 00:12:30,485 --> 00:12:32,565 but the way they integrated these screens, one 369 00:12:32,565 --> 00:12:34,965 big screen, two vertical screens, and then outside 370 00:12:34,965 --> 00:12:37,304 of the stage area, two more vertical screens. 371 00:12:37,639 --> 00:12:39,639 Really, for the for the sites, it sounds 372 00:12:39,639 --> 00:12:40,539 good. Great. And, 373 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:42,840 here's another picture of it with everybody sitting 374 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:44,759 down. We're getting ready to start here. And 375 00:12:44,759 --> 00:12:46,440 I did put up a video with some 376 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,200 of this footage. So if you guys wanna 377 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:49,960 check that out, that'll be in the description 378 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:50,620 as well. 379 00:12:51,075 --> 00:12:53,235 And, actually, I'll link to the article at 380 00:12:53,235 --> 00:12:54,514 the blog because I have all the videos 381 00:12:54,514 --> 00:12:55,735 in one in one post. 382 00:12:56,274 --> 00:12:58,115 In any case, this started out with a 383 00:12:58,115 --> 00:13:00,375 drum, like, kind of a dramatic 384 00:13:00,675 --> 00:13:03,315 drum, almost like a blue man group type 385 00:13:03,315 --> 00:13:06,029 of without all the messy stuff. But, so 386 00:13:06,029 --> 00:13:08,669 the street drummers and they did this, two 387 00:13:08,669 --> 00:13:09,970 and a half minute drumming, 388 00:13:11,629 --> 00:13:12,909 I don't know what you call it. They 389 00:13:12,909 --> 00:13:16,029 played the song. And the graphics behind them 390 00:13:16,029 --> 00:13:17,549 were just going great. I mean, it was 391 00:13:17,549 --> 00:13:19,709 just it was just amazing. It was going 392 00:13:19,709 --> 00:13:21,355 through all the high points for Schneider as 393 00:13:21,355 --> 00:13:23,855 they were doing this really awesome drumming, solo. 394 00:13:24,235 --> 00:13:26,075 And, I actually put a copy of this. 395 00:13:26,075 --> 00:13:28,014 Because right now, it's for members only 396 00:13:28,475 --> 00:13:29,754 on YouTube. I don't know if I can 397 00:13:29,754 --> 00:13:31,995 switch it to everybody because I think that's, 398 00:13:32,715 --> 00:13:34,394 I think it's copyrighted. But maybe I'll do 399 00:13:34,394 --> 00:13:36,299 that and just see. I'm not monetizing it. 400 00:13:36,379 --> 00:13:38,059 It's it's their song, not mine, but it 401 00:13:38,059 --> 00:13:40,059 was just so impressive. What a great opening 402 00:13:40,059 --> 00:13:41,899 act. Only two and a half minutes, but 403 00:13:41,899 --> 00:13:44,299 the drums and the beats, yeah, really good. 404 00:13:44,299 --> 00:13:45,759 I and the choreographed 405 00:13:46,459 --> 00:13:48,620 video that was playing behind them was just 406 00:13:48,620 --> 00:13:49,120 awesome. 407 00:13:49,565 --> 00:13:51,565 Just really awesome. I mean, these drummers made 408 00:13:51,565 --> 00:13:53,485 sure they hit the right high points when 409 00:13:53,485 --> 00:13:55,164 the the screen changed, and I just thought 410 00:13:55,164 --> 00:13:57,004 they did a great job with that. And 411 00:13:57,004 --> 00:13:58,684 then from there, we had, 412 00:13:59,565 --> 00:14:02,605 just a lotta lotta data. So I'll just 413 00:14:02,605 --> 00:14:04,620 go over this one slide. They say by 414 00:14:04,620 --> 00:14:05,680 2026, 415 00:14:06,220 --> 00:14:09,660 they expect industrial electrical demand to surge by 416 00:14:09,660 --> 00:14:11,120 15% in The USA. 417 00:14:11,660 --> 00:14:13,440 And then by 2028, 418 00:14:13,660 --> 00:14:15,680 peak demand will be greater than 419 00:14:16,139 --> 00:14:17,120 peak supply. 420 00:14:17,500 --> 00:14:19,514 That's what they're saying. These are estimates. And 421 00:14:19,514 --> 00:14:20,735 then by 2050, 422 00:14:20,955 --> 00:14:22,254 the electricity demand 423 00:14:22,634 --> 00:14:23,934 should be more than double 424 00:14:24,475 --> 00:14:26,254 what it is today. Now 425 00:14:26,714 --> 00:14:28,714 I don't think I don't think this trend 426 00:14:28,714 --> 00:14:31,274 will go exactly like that. Right? I mean, 427 00:14:31,274 --> 00:14:34,075 necessity is the mother of all invention. Right? 428 00:14:34,075 --> 00:14:37,509 So if, if, we're running out of electricity 429 00:14:37,730 --> 00:14:39,889 production, people will make more power plants or 430 00:14:39,889 --> 00:14:42,129 people will become more efficient while there'll be 431 00:14:42,129 --> 00:14:43,810 new sources of energy and new ways to 432 00:14:43,810 --> 00:14:45,830 store energy, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. 433 00:14:46,210 --> 00:14:48,050 But this is the trend they're seeing today. 434 00:14:48,050 --> 00:14:50,305 Right? And so they had just a ton 435 00:14:50,305 --> 00:14:52,325 of slides like this, full of this information. 436 00:14:52,705 --> 00:14:54,465 They had so many that I actually released 437 00:14:54,465 --> 00:14:56,625 a video, which I put some music to 438 00:14:56,625 --> 00:14:58,144 it, bought a little music track to put 439 00:14:58,144 --> 00:14:59,904 with it, and I released it on all 440 00:14:59,904 --> 00:15:01,929 the platforms. So you could just see all 441 00:15:01,929 --> 00:15:03,450 the slides I took pictures of. I think 442 00:15:03,450 --> 00:15:05,070 there's, like, 20 or so slides 443 00:15:05,450 --> 00:15:07,850 and, just a lot of information. And even 444 00:15:07,850 --> 00:15:09,370 though I'm not in the power industry, I 445 00:15:09,370 --> 00:15:10,830 thought I found that so interesting. 446 00:15:12,490 --> 00:15:13,950 Then they had this video, 447 00:15:14,355 --> 00:15:17,315 which is is in the LinkedIn video that 448 00:15:17,315 --> 00:15:19,315 they they did. They live streamed this keynote. 449 00:15:19,315 --> 00:15:20,914 So I'll link to the live stream in 450 00:15:20,914 --> 00:15:21,575 the description. 451 00:15:22,274 --> 00:15:24,274 Also, this video I'm gonna talk about right 452 00:15:24,274 --> 00:15:26,115 now is at about twenty eight minutes and 453 00:15:26,115 --> 00:15:29,309 thirty seconds. They had this history of Schneider 454 00:15:29,309 --> 00:15:31,570 Electric. You know, Schneider's bought so many companies. 455 00:15:31,790 --> 00:15:33,470 But this was as somebody who host the 456 00:15:33,470 --> 00:15:35,790 steer of automation podcast, I was like, this 457 00:15:35,790 --> 00:15:36,769 is so cool. 458 00:15:37,550 --> 00:15:39,149 So in any case, they started out with, 459 00:15:39,149 --> 00:15:40,210 like, square d. 460 00:15:40,664 --> 00:15:43,565 Right? The first Oculus enclosed fuse 461 00:15:44,664 --> 00:15:47,144 back in nineteen o five. And then they 462 00:15:47,144 --> 00:15:48,985 had some other favorites they had, and I 463 00:15:48,985 --> 00:15:51,784 just interviewed the, the engineer who did the, 464 00:15:52,024 --> 00:15:55,084 the firmware for the, Modicon o 84. 465 00:15:56,769 --> 00:15:58,929 So they had the first PLC. Now they 466 00:15:58,929 --> 00:16:00,289 said 1968. 467 00:16:00,289 --> 00:16:02,610 I would probably say more 1969 468 00:16:02,610 --> 00:16:04,470 because, you know, inception 469 00:16:04,850 --> 00:16:07,110 and deployment. You know, there's a difference there. 470 00:16:07,424 --> 00:16:09,345 Yes. Marley came up with the idea in 471 00:16:09,345 --> 00:16:10,245 '68, 472 00:16:10,784 --> 00:16:13,664 but they didn't install it into GM until 473 00:16:13,664 --> 00:16:14,625 '69. So, 474 00:16:15,664 --> 00:16:16,804 what are you gonna say? 475 00:16:17,184 --> 00:16:19,105 Then they had Wanderway, and I was wondering 476 00:16:19,105 --> 00:16:22,485 why they had Wanderway listed as '20 2003. 477 00:16:22,639 --> 00:16:24,399 Because as we've seen on the History Automation 478 00:16:24,399 --> 00:16:24,899 podcast, 479 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:27,120 Gary wrote the wrote a book about the 480 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,539 history of one to wear and, my cohost. 481 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,740 And, yeah, that was that was, like, mid 482 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:36,304 or early nineties, late eighties. So I don't 483 00:16:36,304 --> 00:16:37,424 know what the I don't know what that 484 00:16:37,424 --> 00:16:39,825 date is signifying, but it's probably a wonder 485 00:16:39,825 --> 00:16:41,745 way product they released. Maybe it's a driver 486 00:16:41,745 --> 00:16:43,204 driver suite or something. 487 00:16:43,584 --> 00:16:44,964 And then OSI pie. 488 00:16:45,264 --> 00:16:47,825 So of that from my understanding in talking 489 00:16:47,825 --> 00:16:50,245 to them, Schneider now fully owns Aviva. 490 00:16:50,879 --> 00:16:52,800 So, originally, they couldn't buy the thing a 491 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,840 100 because FTC was like, you're monopolizing, but, 492 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:56,340 eventually, 493 00:16:57,840 --> 00:16:59,279 I guess they own it completely. That's what 494 00:16:59,279 --> 00:17:00,639 somebody told me on the show floor, so 495 00:17:00,639 --> 00:17:02,100 I'm a Schneider person. So, anyways, 496 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:04,580 having used OSI pie 497 00:17:05,284 --> 00:17:07,284 a lot as historian, in fact, to talk 498 00:17:07,284 --> 00:17:09,684 historian with Rockwell, I've really became to like 499 00:17:09,684 --> 00:17:11,544 it a lot and understand it a lot. 500 00:17:11,605 --> 00:17:13,125 And so I have a soft spot that's 501 00:17:13,125 --> 00:17:14,404 showing a big three and a half inch 502 00:17:14,404 --> 00:17:17,125 floppy disk, and they're showing the date as 503 00:17:17,125 --> 00:17:18,505 1980, I believe. 504 00:17:19,039 --> 00:17:19,279 So, 505 00:17:19,839 --> 00:17:22,319 that video is well worth watching. If you 506 00:17:22,319 --> 00:17:24,000 don't wanna watch the whole watch the whole, 507 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,079 I think it's two hours, the whole keynote, 508 00:17:26,079 --> 00:17:28,319 which I enjoyed, but, again, I was captive 509 00:17:28,319 --> 00:17:30,339 audience. I would definitely recommend 510 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:32,399 I think it's twenty eight minutes and thirty 511 00:17:32,399 --> 00:17:34,179 seconds. Again, I'll put that in the description. 512 00:17:34,865 --> 00:17:37,285 Definitely wanna check out that, that video. 513 00:17:38,144 --> 00:17:39,424 You know, a lot of these companies are 514 00:17:39,424 --> 00:17:41,664 American companies we're talking about, even though Schneider's 515 00:17:41,664 --> 00:17:44,305 a global company. And Snyder still makes thousands 516 00:17:44,305 --> 00:17:45,525 and thousands of products 517 00:17:45,904 --> 00:17:47,125 in America too. 518 00:17:47,429 --> 00:17:47,929 So, 519 00:17:48,389 --> 00:17:50,230 yeah. So even though they're a global company, 520 00:17:50,230 --> 00:17:51,210 it's it's still 521 00:17:51,829 --> 00:17:53,509 nice to see that there. And they even 522 00:17:53,509 --> 00:17:55,429 had stuff in there about Telemech and other 523 00:17:55,429 --> 00:17:57,909 other companies that weren't American, but, it was 524 00:17:57,909 --> 00:17:58,889 just very interesting 525 00:17:59,349 --> 00:18:01,335 stuff. And then they had the big foresight. 526 00:18:01,335 --> 00:18:03,174 And the thing that I remember about foresight 527 00:18:03,174 --> 00:18:04,955 is, yeah, they had some slides and everything, 528 00:18:05,414 --> 00:18:07,355 but, they did this AI demo. 529 00:18:08,455 --> 00:18:08,775 And, 530 00:18:09,974 --> 00:18:11,734 it looked like it was actually running live 531 00:18:11,734 --> 00:18:13,575 because it had that delay you would expect 532 00:18:13,575 --> 00:18:15,670 from an AI like a chat g p 533 00:18:15,670 --> 00:18:17,690 t or a grok or one of those. 534 00:18:17,830 --> 00:18:20,730 And, but he was talking with an Alexa 535 00:18:20,789 --> 00:18:21,690 like voice. 536 00:18:22,150 --> 00:18:23,830 I almost wonder if they hired the same 537 00:18:23,830 --> 00:18:25,049 actress who did Alexa 538 00:18:25,350 --> 00:18:26,970 because it sounded very similar. 539 00:18:27,590 --> 00:18:29,714 Well, to me, it sounded the same. But 540 00:18:29,714 --> 00:18:32,194 in any case, it was pretty cool. I 541 00:18:32,194 --> 00:18:34,294 don't think we'll be using that feature 542 00:18:34,755 --> 00:18:36,115 in the near future, but, 543 00:18:36,755 --> 00:18:38,615 I'm sure it's it's coming. Right? 544 00:18:39,315 --> 00:18:40,994 And then, they talked about, 545 00:18:42,035 --> 00:18:44,054 all the products they made in The USA 546 00:18:44,529 --> 00:18:46,609 because it cost US US audience, and they 547 00:18:46,609 --> 00:18:47,829 talked about the Altivar 548 00:18:48,210 --> 00:18:50,769 six thirty drive. I thought that was interesting, 549 00:18:50,769 --> 00:18:52,609 and I didn't know anything about that drive 550 00:18:52,609 --> 00:18:53,109 prior. 551 00:18:53,490 --> 00:18:54,230 And then, 552 00:18:55,329 --> 00:18:57,410 from there, after the keynote was done, we 553 00:18:57,410 --> 00:18:59,734 were scheduled to do a park, a a 554 00:18:59,734 --> 00:19:02,394 show floor tour. They called it the Innovation 555 00:19:02,615 --> 00:19:05,095 Park. And this was for media, and, 556 00:19:05,815 --> 00:19:07,494 let's see here. Let me just go one 557 00:19:07,494 --> 00:19:09,654 more. And so before we took that tour, 558 00:19:09,654 --> 00:19:11,434 I tried to get a a a pan, 559 00:19:11,494 --> 00:19:12,934 because you only see in a very short 560 00:19:12,934 --> 00:19:15,480 piece if you're watching of this pan. So 561 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:17,080 you can tell just by looking at it, 562 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:18,600 the floor's pretty empty because the door is 563 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:19,340 just open. 564 00:19:19,799 --> 00:19:20,299 And, 565 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:22,619 people are just coming in, 566 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:24,840 and you can see the size of it. 567 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:26,759 It's not the size of an auto meet, 568 00:19:26,759 --> 00:19:28,775 okay, or other big shows like that, but 569 00:19:28,775 --> 00:19:30,734 it still was big. There was there was 570 00:19:30,734 --> 00:19:32,974 lots of stuff there. I would say if 571 00:19:32,974 --> 00:19:34,194 you've been to an RAOTM 572 00:19:34,894 --> 00:19:35,875 bigger than that, 573 00:19:36,335 --> 00:19:36,734 but, 574 00:19:37,134 --> 00:19:38,494 in any case, it was it was good 575 00:19:38,494 --> 00:19:39,855 size, but, again, it's not the size of 576 00:19:39,855 --> 00:19:42,130 an automate show or a massive show like 577 00:19:42,130 --> 00:19:45,009 that. You know, again, target audience, 2,000 people. 578 00:19:45,009 --> 00:19:46,630 Right? So in any case, 579 00:19:47,410 --> 00:19:49,009 I was waiting there for the media tour. 580 00:19:49,009 --> 00:19:50,289 They gave me a pair a pair of, 581 00:19:50,529 --> 00:19:53,329 earbuds and a little receiver, and the guy 582 00:19:53,329 --> 00:19:55,410 giving the tour had a microphone, which worked 583 00:19:55,410 --> 00:19:57,934 really well because as the as the, show 584 00:19:57,934 --> 00:20:00,095 floor filled up, it it could be hard 585 00:20:00,095 --> 00:20:02,414 to hear people. So in any case, here 586 00:20:02,414 --> 00:20:04,575 is our tour guide. This is, 587 00:20:05,055 --> 00:20:05,555 Jesse, 588 00:20:05,934 --> 00:20:08,894 who's super nice guy, super great guy, and, 589 00:20:09,710 --> 00:20:11,150 he's hold I asked him if he'd hold 590 00:20:11,150 --> 00:20:12,349 up the picture because at one point, he 591 00:20:12,349 --> 00:20:13,809 was talking about the history of, 592 00:20:14,190 --> 00:20:16,349 the their industrial products, and he had a 593 00:20:16,349 --> 00:20:18,990 picture of the Monacan o 84. And so 594 00:20:18,990 --> 00:20:20,509 I asked if he could hold it up 595 00:20:20,509 --> 00:20:21,630 so I could take a picture because I 596 00:20:21,630 --> 00:20:23,335 wanted to send it to Chuck who was 597 00:20:23,335 --> 00:20:25,255 on that team who developed that product because 598 00:20:25,255 --> 00:20:27,575 we just interviewed him. So just kinda say, 599 00:20:27,575 --> 00:20:29,434 hey. They're still talking about you guys. 600 00:20:29,735 --> 00:20:30,795 But in any case, 601 00:20:31,255 --> 00:20:33,515 Jesse was pretty awesome to work with and 602 00:20:33,575 --> 00:20:35,095 a good spot for holding up that picture. 603 00:20:35,095 --> 00:20:35,910 And then, of course, 604 00:20:36,390 --> 00:20:37,769 as they're going through the 605 00:20:38,070 --> 00:20:40,250 energy side after a while, I'm like, okay. 606 00:20:40,309 --> 00:20:41,830 I need I need to go see some 607 00:20:41,830 --> 00:20:43,349 industry stuff. So I went over and I 608 00:20:43,349 --> 00:20:45,190 saw the Edge IO, which you guys all 609 00:20:45,190 --> 00:20:46,630 know I and I should say Edge IO 610 00:20:46,630 --> 00:20:48,730 NTS because they have other Edge IO products, 611 00:20:49,430 --> 00:20:51,029 like the the well, we'll see in a 612 00:20:51,029 --> 00:20:52,475 minute. But in any case, they had all 613 00:20:52,475 --> 00:20:54,335 of the, Edge IO products out. 614 00:20:54,955 --> 00:20:57,934 And, they had a nice, display for the 615 00:20:58,154 --> 00:20:58,654 Modicon, 616 00:20:59,195 --> 00:20:59,695 m 617 00:21:00,955 --> 00:21:01,455 five 618 00:21:01,835 --> 00:21:02,335 eighty. 619 00:21:02,715 --> 00:21:04,075 I think it's an e pack. I'll have 620 00:21:04,075 --> 00:21:05,934 to put my glasses on for this one. 621 00:21:07,195 --> 00:21:08,589 And And it was interesting because they had 622 00:21:08,589 --> 00:21:10,210 redundant power supplies, redundant 623 00:21:10,750 --> 00:21:11,869 controllers. They had, 624 00:21:12,509 --> 00:21:14,049 some Hirschman redundancy, 625 00:21:14,589 --> 00:21:15,650 redundant switches. 626 00:21:16,029 --> 00:21:17,410 It was just a very interesting, 627 00:21:18,349 --> 00:21:19,329 layout and, 628 00:21:20,315 --> 00:21:21,755 you know, just showing off this line. I 629 00:21:21,755 --> 00:21:23,355 don't I don't I haven't had anybody come 630 00:21:23,355 --> 00:21:25,434 on to talk about this in-depth, so I 631 00:21:25,434 --> 00:21:27,755 don't know much about it, but, it looked 632 00:21:27,755 --> 00:21:28,255 impressive. 633 00:21:28,795 --> 00:21:30,634 And, then they also had you know, they 634 00:21:30,634 --> 00:21:33,580 own Foxborough, the Foxborough DCS system. So you 635 00:21:33,580 --> 00:21:35,840 could see some Foxborough there. They had Tricon. 636 00:21:36,220 --> 00:21:37,759 I believe that's part of Triconix. 637 00:21:38,059 --> 00:21:40,160 So they had some Triconix stuff there. 638 00:21:40,860 --> 00:21:42,640 I wanted to say hi to the Triconix 639 00:21:42,779 --> 00:21:45,200 guys for Gary, but I I got distracted. 640 00:21:45,259 --> 00:21:46,845 I had so much going on. And then 641 00:21:46,845 --> 00:21:49,085 they, of course, had the Monicon x 80 642 00:21:49,085 --> 00:21:50,684 IO, which is the what we saw on 643 00:21:50,684 --> 00:21:53,244 the five eighty, and then, the Edge IO. 644 00:21:53,244 --> 00:21:55,085 So as I'm walking around here, I'm seeing 645 00:21:55,085 --> 00:21:56,944 a lot of stuff I've never seen before, 646 00:21:57,724 --> 00:21:59,244 you know, especially when it comes to the 647 00:21:59,244 --> 00:22:01,345 Foxboro DCS system or Triconix. 648 00:22:02,269 --> 00:22:05,150 But, in this, your Foxborough Edge IO, so 649 00:22:05,150 --> 00:22:07,390 that's a different type of Edge IO, n 650 00:22:07,390 --> 00:22:09,650 t h instead of n t s. 651 00:22:10,509 --> 00:22:11,009 So 652 00:22:11,390 --> 00:22:13,630 in any case and then this guy, the 653 00:22:13,630 --> 00:22:16,214 Monacan m six sixty. So I was, talking 654 00:22:16,214 --> 00:22:17,434 to Kareem, who I interviewed, 655 00:22:17,815 --> 00:22:19,335 and some other folks there, and they were, 656 00:22:19,335 --> 00:22:21,195 like, really hyped about this. So 657 00:22:21,575 --> 00:22:23,734 it looks like an IPC. Okay? So think 658 00:22:23,734 --> 00:22:24,555 of an IPC. 659 00:22:26,134 --> 00:22:28,535 I don't know. Eight inches by three inches 660 00:22:28,535 --> 00:22:29,035 by 661 00:22:30,130 --> 00:22:30,630 six 662 00:22:31,009 --> 00:22:32,529 inches. Kinda like, you know, that, you know, 663 00:22:32,529 --> 00:22:34,049 a box. Right? It's a box. A shoe 664 00:22:34,049 --> 00:22:34,549 box. 665 00:22:35,410 --> 00:22:36,210 In any case, 666 00:22:36,769 --> 00:22:38,869 they were hyped about this because this unit 667 00:22:39,250 --> 00:22:42,130 comes with Linux and comes with machine expert 668 00:22:42,130 --> 00:22:43,650 run time, a code sys run time on 669 00:22:43,650 --> 00:22:45,184 it. And they said it can do up 670 00:22:45,184 --> 00:22:46,964 to 300 axis of motion. 671 00:22:47,424 --> 00:22:49,025 It has Intel chips in it, so it's 672 00:22:49,025 --> 00:22:50,945 very fast. But it also can, 673 00:22:51,345 --> 00:22:52,805 also run simultaneously 674 00:22:53,345 --> 00:22:53,845 Windows. 675 00:22:54,305 --> 00:22:56,305 So you can run your skater or HMI 676 00:22:56,305 --> 00:22:57,684 on there as well. 677 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,039 And they tell me that you could also 678 00:23:00,039 --> 00:23:02,220 put in automation expert run time. 679 00:23:02,679 --> 00:23:04,359 So you can make it a a a 680 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:04,859 DPAC 681 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:06,119 or a, 682 00:23:06,679 --> 00:23:09,179 or just a regular, machine expert PLC, 683 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:11,179 all simultaneously. 684 00:23:12,255 --> 00:23:14,434 And so they're very excited about that, especially 685 00:23:14,575 --> 00:23:16,815 they kept saying 300 axes of motion. I'm 686 00:23:16,815 --> 00:23:18,994 like, wow. That's a lot of axes. 687 00:23:19,615 --> 00:23:22,255 So that's the Monacan m six sixty. And 688 00:23:22,255 --> 00:23:23,154 then, of course, 689 00:23:24,590 --> 00:23:26,750 I I was interviewing different people, and when 690 00:23:26,750 --> 00:23:28,430 we're talking about drives, we started talking about 691 00:23:28,430 --> 00:23:30,430 soft starters. So I went over to see 692 00:23:30,430 --> 00:23:32,269 a look at their current gen soft starter, 693 00:23:32,269 --> 00:23:34,190 which has too many features for me to 694 00:23:34,190 --> 00:23:34,690 even, 695 00:23:35,390 --> 00:23:36,990 mention, but it has a lot of features 696 00:23:36,990 --> 00:23:39,075 you would think of in a drive and 697 00:23:39,075 --> 00:23:41,474 not in a soft starter. So very interesting 698 00:23:41,474 --> 00:23:43,875 there. And then, because we took the look 699 00:23:43,875 --> 00:23:45,015 at the brand new, 700 00:23:45,954 --> 00:23:46,454 HVAC, 701 00:23:48,194 --> 00:23:50,194 drive from Schneider. Now they have an existing 702 00:23:50,194 --> 00:23:51,634 one. This is the one that's in beta 703 00:23:51,634 --> 00:23:53,940 right now. So coming out in 2025. 704 00:23:54,159 --> 00:23:55,759 So they have a brand this brand new 705 00:23:55,759 --> 00:23:57,759 HVAC drive. They're gonna have multiple versions. This 706 00:23:57,759 --> 00:24:00,159 is just one of the different versions, but, 707 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:02,019 the stuff it does, 708 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:04,480 you know and it's designed for for the 709 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,720 HVAC industry, so it has all those protocols. 710 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:07,220 Right? 711 00:24:07,694 --> 00:24:10,494 And then, they had this, simple on machine 712 00:24:10,494 --> 00:24:10,994 drive, 713 00:24:11,454 --> 00:24:14,174 which was or machine Mount Drive, which, had 714 00:24:14,174 --> 00:24:16,174 IO link in it. So I grabbed some, 715 00:24:16,414 --> 00:24:17,794 grab a picture of that. 716 00:24:18,255 --> 00:24:20,894 And then, of course, they process VFDs as 717 00:24:20,894 --> 00:24:21,954 well or VSDs. 718 00:24:23,170 --> 00:24:23,670 K. 719 00:24:24,049 --> 00:24:26,049 And then this one, and that's, Kareem in 720 00:24:26,049 --> 00:24:27,330 the picture. I did get a chance to 721 00:24:27,330 --> 00:24:29,009 interview him. He was great. We talked so 722 00:24:29,009 --> 00:24:29,509 much. 723 00:24:29,890 --> 00:24:32,450 Mahua came over. We talked to her, and 724 00:24:32,450 --> 00:24:33,890 I hope to do an interview. I I 725 00:24:33,890 --> 00:24:35,625 actually owe her an email. Hope to get 726 00:24:35,625 --> 00:24:37,464 her on the podcast to talk all about 727 00:24:37,464 --> 00:24:39,404 this assistant AI. 728 00:24:40,025 --> 00:24:41,865 So, you know, we we see all the 729 00:24:41,865 --> 00:24:42,525 big companies 730 00:24:42,825 --> 00:24:45,085 working with Microsoft, working with Copilot 731 00:24:45,625 --> 00:24:47,625 to to produce products. And and one of 732 00:24:47,625 --> 00:24:49,144 the things I thought was interesting about this 733 00:24:49,224 --> 00:24:50,430 and now this comes with 734 00:24:50,990 --> 00:24:52,450 automation expert platform, 735 00:24:52,830 --> 00:24:53,890 and I believe 736 00:24:54,430 --> 00:24:54,930 you, 737 00:24:55,390 --> 00:24:56,369 actually can, 738 00:24:56,990 --> 00:24:58,690 license this, like, as a subscription 739 00:24:59,390 --> 00:25:01,630 for an on premise solution, but that's not 740 00:25:01,630 --> 00:25:03,464 out today. But in any case, 741 00:25:04,505 --> 00:25:06,184 they're training it on what they have, so 742 00:25:06,184 --> 00:25:07,865 it'll actually bring up samples out of their 743 00:25:07,865 --> 00:25:09,325 own sample code libraries. 744 00:25:10,265 --> 00:25:12,265 But you and when it's released, you will 745 00:25:12,265 --> 00:25:13,964 be able to train it on your processes. 746 00:25:14,184 --> 00:25:15,404 It'll be your own 747 00:25:16,019 --> 00:25:16,680 on premise 748 00:25:17,539 --> 00:25:20,019 AI that you can train, that the information 749 00:25:20,019 --> 00:25:21,779 will never be sent to Schneider or anybody 750 00:25:21,779 --> 00:25:23,700 else. And I think that's cool because a 751 00:25:23,700 --> 00:25:25,859 lot of companies have you know, you have 752 00:25:25,859 --> 00:25:27,779 people getting ready to retire, and they wanna 753 00:25:27,779 --> 00:25:29,160 start training the AI 754 00:25:29,585 --> 00:25:31,664 with you know? Here's the questions, and here's 755 00:25:31,664 --> 00:25:32,325 the answers. 756 00:25:32,785 --> 00:25:34,785 And, you know, so the next generation will 757 00:25:34,785 --> 00:25:36,305 be able to come in and say, hey. 758 00:25:36,305 --> 00:25:37,585 What did Joe used to do when this 759 00:25:37,585 --> 00:25:39,585 happened? Right? So I thought that was very 760 00:25:39,585 --> 00:25:41,184 cool, and I'm I'm I I like the 761 00:25:41,184 --> 00:25:43,380 way people are deploying these. When I I'm 762 00:25:43,380 --> 00:25:45,220 finding myself more and more going to a 763 00:25:45,220 --> 00:25:47,960 GRONC or a GRONC or a CHAT GPTP 764 00:25:48,500 --> 00:25:50,920 when Internet searches fail me because 765 00:25:51,299 --> 00:25:53,700 Internet searches, they seem to have gotten dumber 766 00:25:53,700 --> 00:25:55,940 over the years. And, the AI, though, is 767 00:25:55,940 --> 00:25:57,565 trying to put it in the context, you 768 00:25:57,565 --> 00:25:59,744 know, put the information in the context. So, 769 00:26:00,365 --> 00:26:02,285 it's just a much better way to search. 770 00:26:02,285 --> 00:26:02,785 Right? 771 00:26:03,244 --> 00:26:04,924 So in any case, in a quest, they 772 00:26:04,924 --> 00:26:06,924 always had the machines in motion just like 773 00:26:06,924 --> 00:26:09,244 every show. They had, you know, robots, and 774 00:26:09,244 --> 00:26:11,579 they had the track systems and whatnot. So 775 00:26:11,659 --> 00:26:13,500 that's kind of a view of the industry 776 00:26:13,500 --> 00:26:14,859 side. I do wanna show off this. This 777 00:26:14,859 --> 00:26:16,000 was a full size, 778 00:26:16,619 --> 00:26:17,980 I don't know how many inches, a 100 779 00:26:17,980 --> 00:26:20,220 or over a 100 inches, probably well, I 780 00:26:20,220 --> 00:26:22,460 don't wanna guess. But this is a curved 781 00:26:22,460 --> 00:26:24,240 screen that was running a video 782 00:26:24,700 --> 00:26:25,339 talking about, 783 00:26:26,255 --> 00:26:28,735 liquid cooling data centers, which I thought was 784 00:26:28,735 --> 00:26:29,394 so interesting. 785 00:26:29,775 --> 00:26:32,654 But, just this beautiful, gorgeous, large screen, and 786 00:26:32,654 --> 00:26:33,695 I got to meet the guy who did 787 00:26:33,695 --> 00:26:35,315 all the three d work for it. 788 00:26:35,695 --> 00:26:36,755 Very cool company, 789 00:26:37,295 --> 00:26:38,975 and very cool job they did on that 790 00:26:38,975 --> 00:26:39,715 three d. 791 00:26:40,250 --> 00:26:40,750 Alright. 792 00:26:41,289 --> 00:26:42,570 So that that was a lot of the 793 00:26:42,570 --> 00:26:43,769 day, and then I had a session to 794 00:26:43,769 --> 00:26:45,690 go to. It's how real companies are using 795 00:26:45,690 --> 00:26:46,590 today's technology 796 00:26:46,970 --> 00:26:49,049 to scale innovation and set records doing that. 797 00:26:49,049 --> 00:26:50,170 And I was supposed to do a sponsored 798 00:26:50,170 --> 00:26:52,410 video on this, except when we got in 799 00:26:52,410 --> 00:26:54,255 there, these four are very nice, 800 00:26:54,974 --> 00:26:55,795 very smart, 801 00:26:56,414 --> 00:26:58,275 very what's the word I'm looking for? 802 00:26:58,734 --> 00:26:59,634 Earnest people. 803 00:27:00,654 --> 00:27:02,494 We're not talking about how real companies are 804 00:27:02,494 --> 00:27:03,714 using today's technology 805 00:27:04,015 --> 00:27:06,299 to scale innovation and set records doing it. 806 00:27:06,380 --> 00:27:08,539 They were talking about I I would have 807 00:27:08,539 --> 00:27:10,240 called this four different 808 00:27:10,539 --> 00:27:11,039 companies 809 00:27:11,740 --> 00:27:12,720 journey through 810 00:27:13,500 --> 00:27:16,160 four different companies take a journey into 811 00:27:16,700 --> 00:27:17,200 carbon 812 00:27:17,660 --> 00:27:18,160 sequestration. 813 00:27:19,100 --> 00:27:22,335 So or carbon neutral power because that's what 814 00:27:22,335 --> 00:27:23,775 they all did. They were all about taking 815 00:27:23,775 --> 00:27:25,934 carbon out of the atmosphere. That's what I 816 00:27:25,934 --> 00:27:27,615 got out of it. At some point, I 817 00:27:27,615 --> 00:27:29,634 kinda even threw my hands up. I'm like 818 00:27:29,694 --> 00:27:31,875 I'm like, are we gonna talk about 819 00:27:32,414 --> 00:27:35,454 using today's technology to scale innovation and set 820 00:27:35,454 --> 00:27:37,789 records, or are we gonna talk about how 821 00:27:37,789 --> 00:27:39,549 can we take carbon out of the atmosphere? 822 00:27:39,549 --> 00:27:40,910 And I get it. I get it. One 823 00:27:40,910 --> 00:27:41,890 guy's like, yeah. 824 00:27:42,430 --> 00:27:43,650 I we have the biggest, 825 00:27:44,190 --> 00:27:47,570 carbon with, you know, open air carbon withdrawal 826 00:27:47,630 --> 00:27:49,630 system, c o two sucker out of the 827 00:27:49,630 --> 00:27:51,170 ear system in the world. 828 00:27:52,005 --> 00:27:54,404 They weren't they were doing it because they 829 00:27:54,404 --> 00:27:56,025 wanted to sell the c o two. 830 00:27:56,404 --> 00:27:58,244 And they were doing it they were owned 831 00:27:58,244 --> 00:28:00,345 by, like, a oil company or petrochemical 832 00:28:00,644 --> 00:28:02,904 company. So I'm like, alright. Whatever. 833 00:28:03,285 --> 00:28:05,785 In any case, they were all very earnest. 834 00:28:05,849 --> 00:28:07,609 They all had their heart in their missions 835 00:28:07,609 --> 00:28:08,970 that this was what they wanted to do 836 00:28:08,970 --> 00:28:09,789 with their lives, 837 00:28:10,089 --> 00:28:12,089 but I was waiting for how they were 838 00:28:12,089 --> 00:28:13,309 using Schneider technology 839 00:28:13,609 --> 00:28:16,490 to, to scale innovation and set records doing 840 00:28:16,490 --> 00:28:19,450 it. And that title was probably some marketing 841 00:28:19,450 --> 00:28:21,845 person, And that happens at every show. Every 842 00:28:21,845 --> 00:28:23,365 show I've been to, there's been one like 843 00:28:23,365 --> 00:28:25,684 this where the the title doesn't really meet 844 00:28:25,684 --> 00:28:28,105 the meet my expectations anyways. 845 00:28:28,484 --> 00:28:30,884 But, then we had a session, how connected 846 00:28:30,884 --> 00:28:32,424 networks are fueling industrial 847 00:28:32,724 --> 00:28:33,224 growth. 848 00:28:33,990 --> 00:28:35,450 And so this was 849 00:28:36,630 --> 00:28:37,210 really how 850 00:28:37,670 --> 00:28:38,650 connect networks 851 00:28:39,109 --> 00:28:41,289 in our systems, whether they be automation, 852 00:28:41,670 --> 00:28:42,650 industrial automation, 853 00:28:43,190 --> 00:28:44,570 power, energy buildings, 854 00:28:45,430 --> 00:28:45,930 fueling, 855 00:28:47,430 --> 00:28:48,329 I would say 856 00:28:50,195 --> 00:28:52,914 how how AI is using that information to 857 00:28:52,914 --> 00:28:55,414 help people be more effective and more efficient. 858 00:28:55,634 --> 00:28:57,955 And so they had ServiceNow in there, and 859 00:28:57,955 --> 00:28:59,974 they were really talking a lot about 860 00:29:00,595 --> 00:29:01,095 AI 861 00:29:01,930 --> 00:29:04,250 and how you can now use that data 862 00:29:04,250 --> 00:29:05,630 you have on the plant floor 863 00:29:06,009 --> 00:29:06,910 to help you 864 00:29:07,690 --> 00:29:09,930 either prompt you that something's wrong or help 865 00:29:09,930 --> 00:29:11,230 you walk through a scenario, 866 00:29:12,410 --> 00:29:14,509 you know, through using some an automated, 867 00:29:15,625 --> 00:29:18,025 instead of using a standard operating procedure, use 868 00:29:18,025 --> 00:29:19,944 something that's a little bit more automated and 869 00:29:19,944 --> 00:29:21,704 a little bit more intelligent. So it was 870 00:29:21,704 --> 00:29:24,105 an interesting session as well, and, 871 00:29:25,224 --> 00:29:27,625 they're really talking about the the collaboration of 872 00:29:27,625 --> 00:29:30,345 Veeva and ServiceNow. They're going out of different 873 00:29:30,345 --> 00:29:32,480 ways. You know, ServiceNow is more about the 874 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,039 standard operating procedures, automating that, where Aviva is 875 00:29:35,039 --> 00:29:37,279 more about automating alarms and events and data 876 00:29:37,279 --> 00:29:39,859 collection and, you know, analytics and all that. 877 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:41,839 But, I thought it was a very interesting 878 00:29:41,839 --> 00:29:42,980 session as well 879 00:29:43,444 --> 00:29:43,765 and, 880 00:29:44,404 --> 00:29:46,805 really didn't, you know, didn't come away with 881 00:29:46,805 --> 00:29:49,045 anything I could actually use, but still wasn't 882 00:29:49,045 --> 00:29:51,065 as interesting to talk about and think about. 883 00:29:51,125 --> 00:29:52,484 And then after that, I had I had 884 00:29:52,484 --> 00:29:53,845 to do an interview, and then I had 885 00:29:53,845 --> 00:29:55,365 to sit down, I shouldn't say I have 886 00:29:55,365 --> 00:29:56,724 to. I had the pleasure of doing an 887 00:29:56,724 --> 00:29:59,220 interview with a Schneider product manager, and then 888 00:29:59,220 --> 00:30:00,920 I sit I sat down with, 889 00:30:02,259 --> 00:30:05,059 a product team from France. So three different 890 00:30:05,059 --> 00:30:06,179 people and, 891 00:30:06,660 --> 00:30:07,160 Bobby, 892 00:30:08,179 --> 00:30:10,819 Robin, and Olivia. And it was just such 893 00:30:10,819 --> 00:30:11,720 a great conversation. 894 00:30:12,274 --> 00:30:13,794 I learned so much. I didn't even know 895 00:30:13,794 --> 00:30:15,554 what control expert was. They explained it to 896 00:30:15,554 --> 00:30:17,315 me, and it was we we I wanted 897 00:30:17,315 --> 00:30:18,994 to do an interview. That didn't work out, 898 00:30:18,994 --> 00:30:20,674 so I got the I actually saw Louis 899 00:30:20,674 --> 00:30:22,674 Arone there too for a moment, when I 900 00:30:22,674 --> 00:30:24,194 went to sit down with these folks and 901 00:30:24,194 --> 00:30:26,279 got to say hi to him. And, we're 902 00:30:26,279 --> 00:30:28,359 gonna try to get together up in, Andover 903 00:30:28,359 --> 00:30:31,000 someday. I'd like to see the, the Modicon, 904 00:30:31,319 --> 00:30:33,159 o 84 they have up there. But in 905 00:30:33,159 --> 00:30:35,000 any case, that was a great sit down. 906 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:36,599 I really appreciate them taking time out of 907 00:30:36,599 --> 00:30:39,704 their afternoon. And then there was this fireside 908 00:30:40,004 --> 00:30:42,105 chat with NVIDIA's Rev 909 00:30:43,365 --> 00:30:43,865 Labarian. 910 00:30:45,044 --> 00:30:46,724 Probably didn't pronounce that right. But in any 911 00:30:46,724 --> 00:30:48,585 case, I thought this was very interesting. 912 00:30:49,444 --> 00:30:51,924 And, you know, NVIDIA was talking about so 913 00:30:51,924 --> 00:30:54,264 this is a VP who handles Omniverse, 914 00:30:55,349 --> 00:30:57,450 and, well, you think digital twin. 915 00:30:57,829 --> 00:31:00,250 And he went through this the conversation of, 916 00:31:00,869 --> 00:31:03,690 number one, I never thought of this, but 917 00:31:03,750 --> 00:31:06,230 NVIDIA has always kinda done digital twins because 918 00:31:06,230 --> 00:31:07,369 they had to simulate 919 00:31:07,990 --> 00:31:10,454 how the chips they designed worked because they're 920 00:31:10,454 --> 00:31:11,755 very expensive to make. 921 00:31:12,134 --> 00:31:13,894 So you don't wanna make a whole bunch 922 00:31:13,894 --> 00:31:16,154 of platters of chips that don't work. Right? 923 00:31:16,855 --> 00:31:19,015 And so early on, they learned to create 924 00:31:19,015 --> 00:31:19,515 simulations, 925 00:31:20,295 --> 00:31:22,075 or digital twins of their microprocessors, 926 00:31:22,615 --> 00:31:23,355 their GPUs, 927 00:31:23,809 --> 00:31:26,230 and other chips so that they could ensure 928 00:31:26,289 --> 00:31:27,190 that they worked 929 00:31:27,809 --> 00:31:29,890 as desired, as designed, as, you know, they 930 00:31:29,890 --> 00:31:31,970 wanted them to work. And it was it 931 00:31:31,970 --> 00:31:33,730 was really awesome to hear that kind of 932 00:31:33,730 --> 00:31:35,490 part of the conversation. I mean, he went 933 00:31:35,490 --> 00:31:37,335 as far as saying, if an engineer tried 934 00:31:37,335 --> 00:31:39,654 to sabotage us by to make the trip 935 00:31:39,654 --> 00:31:41,414 chip not work, we would never produce it 936 00:31:41,414 --> 00:31:43,434 because we would find that in the simulation. 937 00:31:44,295 --> 00:31:45,894 I wouldn't have thrown the gauntlet down to 938 00:31:45,894 --> 00:31:47,654 that one, but in any case, he made 939 00:31:47,654 --> 00:31:48,855 a good point about that. And so it 940 00:31:48,855 --> 00:31:50,474 was a very interesting conversation. 941 00:31:50,855 --> 00:31:52,075 Then he talked about, 942 00:31:52,380 --> 00:31:54,320 he had a conversation here about 943 00:31:54,779 --> 00:31:57,259 how they were looking to model the real 944 00:31:57,259 --> 00:31:59,180 world. They wanted to make their digital twins 945 00:31:59,180 --> 00:32:01,259 better and how they couldn't find they weren't 946 00:32:01,259 --> 00:32:02,960 looking to look and couldn't find a system. 947 00:32:03,180 --> 00:32:04,539 They stumbled upon what, 948 00:32:04,940 --> 00:32:05,599 the folks, 949 00:32:06,474 --> 00:32:08,474 Pixar, who makes Toy Story, they stumbled upon 950 00:32:08,474 --> 00:32:09,454 what they used. 951 00:32:09,914 --> 00:32:12,154 Right? And they built on it over time, 952 00:32:12,154 --> 00:32:13,994 and they ended up it's this, 953 00:32:15,434 --> 00:32:15,934 something, 954 00:32:16,315 --> 00:32:17,454 virtual scene, 955 00:32:17,914 --> 00:32:18,414 descriptor, 956 00:32:19,194 --> 00:32:21,799 language, or something. Anyways, long story short, 957 00:32:22,099 --> 00:32:24,279 they ended up developing that more, 958 00:32:24,819 --> 00:32:25,319 and, 959 00:32:25,940 --> 00:32:27,940 they have other partners on it, including Pixar, 960 00:32:27,940 --> 00:32:30,339 but other people from industry as part of 961 00:32:30,339 --> 00:32:32,740 this group that's managing this new spec so 962 00:32:32,740 --> 00:32:34,694 that when you have a digital twin, you 963 00:32:34,694 --> 00:32:36,075 have descriptions for 964 00:32:36,534 --> 00:32:38,714 everything that's part of that digital twin, 965 00:32:39,095 --> 00:32:41,974 including, you know, size, dimension, color, texture, all 966 00:32:41,974 --> 00:32:44,694 that good stuff. And, Schneider announced that the 967 00:32:44,694 --> 00:32:46,454 event in in the session that they had 968 00:32:46,454 --> 00:32:48,009 joined that consortium 969 00:32:48,470 --> 00:32:51,609 around that, that standard. And I cannot remember 970 00:32:51,669 --> 00:32:53,750 right now, but, I just thought that was 971 00:32:53,750 --> 00:32:55,049 very interesting as well. 972 00:32:55,349 --> 00:32:57,690 And, so that was it for day one. 973 00:32:59,190 --> 00:33:01,275 Date so I was beat because, you know, 974 00:33:01,275 --> 00:33:02,555 I matter of fact, they were supposed to 975 00:33:02,555 --> 00:33:04,095 go to dinner with them at 06:30 976 00:33:04,394 --> 00:33:06,154 to a very fancy restaurant, but that was 977 00:33:06,154 --> 00:33:08,154 seven, eight, 09:30 my time. I'm usually in 978 00:33:08,154 --> 00:33:09,434 bed by that time, and I was just 979 00:33:09,434 --> 00:33:11,914 wiped out because of, you know, having gotten 980 00:33:11,914 --> 00:33:14,154 up so early. So I spent the day 981 00:33:14,154 --> 00:33:15,674 two, the morning, and, yeah, I got got 982 00:33:15,674 --> 00:33:17,200 up at, like, 02:30 in the morning. And 983 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,039 I worked, for eight hours on the first 984 00:33:19,039 --> 00:33:21,279 video I was sponsored to do. And then 985 00:33:21,279 --> 00:33:23,359 I, did some sessions, hit the show floor, 986 00:33:23,359 --> 00:33:24,720 and then I had four more interviews to 987 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,160 do, and then I had another video to 988 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,160 do. So that was my day, the second 989 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,335 day. And so spent that eight hours in 990 00:33:30,335 --> 00:33:32,335 the morning creating that sponsored video because it 991 00:33:32,335 --> 00:33:33,394 was due that day. 992 00:33:33,695 --> 00:33:36,174 And then, I jumped into a session called 993 00:33:36,174 --> 00:33:37,795 Igniting Industrial Competitiveness 994 00:33:38,575 --> 00:33:40,674 with Open Software Defined Automation. 995 00:33:41,230 --> 00:33:42,990 Like, that is a mouthful, but I think 996 00:33:42,990 --> 00:33:45,250 this has more to do with Automation Expert. 997 00:33:45,950 --> 00:33:48,450 And, what they talked about really was, 998 00:33:48,990 --> 00:33:50,210 again, very interesting. 999 00:33:50,829 --> 00:33:54,429 You know, why did Schneider Electric even move 1000 00:33:54,429 --> 00:33:57,224 forward with Automation Expert? Right? So they started 1001 00:33:57,605 --> 00:33:58,585 just shortly 1002 00:33:59,524 --> 00:34:01,544 before, if I understand the timeline, 1003 00:34:01,845 --> 00:34:04,644 I sat down with Louis Arone in 2022. 1004 00:34:04,644 --> 00:34:06,904 I think they probably started around 2020. 1005 00:34:08,244 --> 00:34:09,929 And the whole idea was, 1006 00:34:11,210 --> 00:34:12,889 and I I even asked them at some 1007 00:34:12,889 --> 00:34:14,730 point, and they didn't say anything, not in 1008 00:34:14,730 --> 00:34:16,650 this session, but other people. It almost seems 1009 00:34:16,650 --> 00:34:18,650 like they're competing with code system a little 1010 00:34:18,650 --> 00:34:19,150 bit. 1011 00:34:19,449 --> 00:34:20,269 So this 1012 00:34:20,809 --> 00:34:24,909 their open software defined platform or automation platform, 1013 00:34:25,335 --> 00:34:27,974 you know, basically, it's you program it with 1014 00:34:27,974 --> 00:34:28,954 Automation Expert, 1015 00:34:29,655 --> 00:34:31,914 and you can download it to any any 1016 00:34:32,054 --> 00:34:35,275 device you want, and that supports Automation Expert. 1017 00:34:35,494 --> 00:34:37,335 So there it seems to me like they're 1018 00:34:37,335 --> 00:34:39,815 almost taking the place in this area of 1019 00:34:39,815 --> 00:34:40,315 Codesys. 1020 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,239 But the the reason for this is 1021 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,619 and this, gentleman, Whit from ExxonMobil, 1022 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,739 explained how expensive it is for them to 1023 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,500 upgrade from legacy systems to new systems. Right? 1024 00:34:53,755 --> 00:34:56,014 And so we don't see this a lot 1025 00:34:56,875 --> 00:34:58,795 if your system's only twenty years old because 1026 00:34:58,795 --> 00:35:00,795 most of the 20 old systems can be 1027 00:35:00,795 --> 00:35:03,594 easily migrated into today's system. Right? But if 1028 00:35:03,594 --> 00:35:06,074 you go farther back, right, if we go 1029 00:35:06,074 --> 00:35:08,429 thirty, forty years ago, you know, we all 1030 00:35:08,429 --> 00:35:08,929 know, 1031 00:35:09,230 --> 00:35:11,309 like, on the on probably side, migrating a 1032 00:35:11,309 --> 00:35:12,609 PLC five to ControlLogix, 1033 00:35:13,550 --> 00:35:14,829 there's some work they have to do. You 1034 00:35:14,829 --> 00:35:16,750 know, the import utility will import a lot, 1035 00:35:16,750 --> 00:35:18,190 but there's still a lot of work to 1036 00:35:18,190 --> 00:35:19,630 do, a lot of engineering work. I mean, 1037 00:35:19,630 --> 00:35:20,764 days. Right? 1038 00:35:21,304 --> 00:35:22,204 And so, 1039 00:35:24,264 --> 00:35:26,105 you know, for them, they they don't have 1040 00:35:26,105 --> 00:35:26,764 no downtime. 1041 00:35:27,065 --> 00:35:28,744 So they have to do this, like, systems 1042 00:35:28,744 --> 00:35:31,704 in parallel, and it's crazy. So it it 1043 00:35:31,704 --> 00:35:33,545 can cost them hundreds of millions of dollars 1044 00:35:33,545 --> 00:35:36,389 to make do these migrations, especially large DCS 1045 00:35:36,389 --> 00:35:38,789 systems. And so they they'll they were really 1046 00:35:38,789 --> 00:35:41,769 looking for, you know, open software automation 1047 00:35:42,070 --> 00:35:44,230 or, you know, OPath, or they were looking 1048 00:35:44,230 --> 00:35:47,030 for something that would reduce this. They want 1049 00:35:47,030 --> 00:35:49,934 a common software layer like c plus plus. 1050 00:35:49,934 --> 00:35:50,434 Right? 1051 00:35:50,735 --> 00:35:52,255 And not that they they said that, but 1052 00:35:52,255 --> 00:35:54,255 think about, like, every computer can run programs 1053 00:35:54,255 --> 00:35:56,494 made with c plus plus. Right? So that's 1054 00:35:56,494 --> 00:35:58,255 what they wanted. They wanted the hardware to 1055 00:35:58,255 --> 00:35:59,555 be separate from the software. 1056 00:36:00,175 --> 00:36:02,335 And so Schneider jumped in on this and, 1057 00:36:02,335 --> 00:36:03,954 you know, with automation expert. 1058 00:36:04,679 --> 00:36:05,179 And, 1059 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,599 to me, again, very similar to Codesys from 1060 00:36:08,599 --> 00:36:09,980 my viewpoint in many ways 1061 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,359 because, you know, if you have a Codesys 1062 00:36:12,359 --> 00:36:14,679 prep program, you can should be able to 1063 00:36:14,679 --> 00:36:16,280 use it in any Codesys PLC. Right? 1064 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,339 Especially if you're making it into a library. 1065 00:36:19,905 --> 00:36:22,085 I'm assuming that. I'm not a CodeSys expert. 1066 00:36:22,625 --> 00:36:23,684 But in any case, 1067 00:36:24,224 --> 00:36:26,065 you know, that's what their thought was with 1068 00:36:26,065 --> 00:36:27,765 open automation. But, also, 1069 00:36:29,184 --> 00:36:31,585 the thing here is that your programs can 1070 00:36:31,585 --> 00:36:33,184 actually when you have a program, it can 1071 00:36:33,184 --> 00:36:35,285 actually be for multiple devices. 1072 00:36:35,799 --> 00:36:37,639 So you may have one control scheme that 1073 00:36:37,639 --> 00:36:39,880 actually downloads to a controller and to a 1074 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,219 VFD. Right? And some of their VFDs, 1075 00:36:42,599 --> 00:36:44,199 do have a d packs on them. Right? 1076 00:36:44,199 --> 00:36:46,299 Or the capabilities have d packs. 1077 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,139 So very interesting. 1078 00:36:48,519 --> 00:36:49,900 I don't think I did it justice. 1079 00:36:50,204 --> 00:36:51,885 I did create a sponsored video on this 1080 00:36:51,885 --> 00:36:54,045 kinda going through what what said because he 1081 00:36:54,045 --> 00:36:56,864 went into detail about how, you know, migrating, 1082 00:36:57,485 --> 00:36:59,485 is so expensive, and that's why they want 1083 00:36:59,565 --> 00:37:01,744 they they love having industrial hardware. 1084 00:37:02,559 --> 00:37:04,319 But just like computers in their in their 1085 00:37:04,319 --> 00:37:06,079 data center, they wanna be able to upgrade 1086 00:37:06,079 --> 00:37:06,579 them 1087 00:37:07,119 --> 00:37:08,799 to the best in breed when they want 1088 00:37:08,799 --> 00:37:11,380 and still take forward that software. So 1089 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:13,139 is this the future? 1090 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,039 I don't know. I don't know. You know, 1091 00:37:15,039 --> 00:37:16,799 Apple is still doing great out there with 1092 00:37:16,799 --> 00:37:18,744 its iPhone. It's not part of the Android 1093 00:37:18,744 --> 00:37:19,244 ecosystem. 1094 00:37:20,025 --> 00:37:22,184 Right? So, we see people trying to come 1095 00:37:22,184 --> 00:37:24,505 in and challenge that. Windows phone didn't challenge 1096 00:37:24,505 --> 00:37:27,065 it well, but we're seeing, we're seeing people 1097 00:37:27,065 --> 00:37:29,324 continue to try to challenge that two dominant, 1098 00:37:29,730 --> 00:37:31,329 you know and I actually see them more 1099 00:37:31,329 --> 00:37:33,829 and more Linux on the personal PC side 1100 00:37:34,050 --> 00:37:36,449 because even in gaming, they're getting they're getting 1101 00:37:36,449 --> 00:37:37,250 so good at, 1102 00:37:39,250 --> 00:37:41,329 taking Windows games and running them on Linux 1103 00:37:41,329 --> 00:37:43,625 that, you know, if that trend continues, that's 1104 00:37:43,625 --> 00:37:45,704 gonna put a hurt on Windows as the 1105 00:37:45,704 --> 00:37:47,164 dominant platform in 1106 00:37:47,465 --> 00:37:49,005 in PCs. Right? So 1107 00:37:49,385 --> 00:37:50,445 interesting stuff. 1108 00:37:51,625 --> 00:37:52,605 And with that, 1109 00:37:53,385 --> 00:37:55,804 that was kind of it for the show. 1110 00:37:57,210 --> 00:37:58,989 What do I have content? So 1111 00:37:59,369 --> 00:38:02,349 already, I have the slideshow from the keynote. 1112 00:38:02,889 --> 00:38:05,130 I have two sponsored videos that I've already 1113 00:38:05,130 --> 00:38:08,409 done. I recorded five podcasts. There's another one 1114 00:38:08,409 --> 00:38:10,045 I'm supposed to record at some point, but 1115 00:38:10,045 --> 00:38:11,385 I recorded five already. 1116 00:38:12,244 --> 00:38:14,324 Mahua, I can't wait to get together with 1117 00:38:14,324 --> 00:38:15,924 her and schedule a time to do a, 1118 00:38:16,164 --> 00:38:17,464 an episode on 1119 00:38:18,244 --> 00:38:18,565 the, 1120 00:38:20,005 --> 00:38:20,904 on the AI. 1121 00:38:21,684 --> 00:38:24,449 And then, we got this podcast. I I 1122 00:38:24,449 --> 00:38:26,609 did some other posting, but just a lot 1123 00:38:26,609 --> 00:38:27,909 of content from 1124 00:38:28,210 --> 00:38:30,449 the summit. It was very interesting. I'm glad 1125 00:38:30,449 --> 00:38:32,489 I went. The flight out there and have 1126 00:38:32,609 --> 00:38:34,150 not having coffee, I'll tell you. 1127 00:38:34,690 --> 00:38:36,710 I don't mean to be a crybaby, but 1128 00:38:36,929 --> 00:38:37,909 give me my coffee. 1129 00:38:38,344 --> 00:38:40,105 In any case, I did wanna share that 1130 00:38:40,105 --> 00:38:42,184 with you. Just just my what I did. 1131 00:38:42,184 --> 00:38:43,625 And, look, I traveled most of the day 1132 00:38:43,625 --> 00:38:45,944 Monday and all and all day Thursday. So 1133 00:38:45,944 --> 00:38:47,385 it was two days of a show, but 1134 00:38:47,385 --> 00:38:49,005 four days. So I thank Schneider 1135 00:38:49,464 --> 00:38:51,885 through their different media partners for the sponsorship 1136 00:38:51,944 --> 00:38:52,440 because 1137 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:54,139 none of that would have been possible. 1138 00:38:54,519 --> 00:38:56,679 And we just spent 2 just just just 1139 00:38:56,679 --> 00:38:59,800 the travel expenses alone was was $2. So, 1140 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:01,420 you know, when you're self employed, 1141 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:03,319 you have to find a a way to 1142 00:39:03,319 --> 00:39:04,380 cover every expense. 1143 00:39:04,724 --> 00:39:05,224 But, 1144 00:39:06,085 --> 00:39:08,164 I'm hoping you guys enjoyed that. Please check 1145 00:39:08,164 --> 00:39:10,005 out the content. And, again, in the links, 1146 00:39:10,005 --> 00:39:12,244 I'm gonna include links to the show, to 1147 00:39:12,244 --> 00:39:12,905 the keynote. 1148 00:39:13,684 --> 00:39:15,445 To go to the twenty eight thirty to 1149 00:39:15,445 --> 00:39:17,144 see that awesome video on the history. 1150 00:39:18,159 --> 00:39:20,159 I'll include links to the automation blog where 1151 00:39:20,159 --> 00:39:21,699 I have all the videos I've done, 1152 00:39:22,159 --> 00:39:24,000 some of my members only, which depending if 1153 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:25,440 you're on YouTube, you'd go to YouTube and 1154 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,460 see the members only. And then, 1155 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,559 really, I just hope you guys, found this, 1156 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:31,300 interesting. 1157 00:39:32,295 --> 00:39:34,695 I did wanna share what I, my experience 1158 00:39:34,695 --> 00:39:36,394 of being out of that show with you. 1159 00:39:36,454 --> 00:39:38,775 And, with that, I wanna just wish you 1160 00:39:38,775 --> 00:39:40,074 all good health and happiness. 1161 00:39:40,454 --> 00:39:42,155 And until next time, my friends. 1162 00:39:43,574 --> 00:39:44,074 Peace.