1 00:00:00,799 --> 00:00:02,240 Thank you for tuning back in to the 2 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:04,559 automation podcast. My name is Sean Tierney from 3 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:05,940 Insights in Automation. 4 00:00:06,319 --> 00:00:07,519 And this week on the show, we have 5 00:00:07,519 --> 00:00:09,199 a special guest, somebody who hasn't been on 6 00:00:09,199 --> 00:00:11,759 in four years. We have Michael Bone from 7 00:00:11,759 --> 00:00:12,259 PI. 8 00:00:12,804 --> 00:00:15,625 They're the folks who manage technologies like PROFINET 9 00:00:15,685 --> 00:00:17,765 and IO Link. And Michael's come on this 10 00:00:17,765 --> 00:00:20,644 week to talk specifically about IO Link. We're 11 00:00:20,644 --> 00:00:22,484 gonna talk about what it is. We're gonna 12 00:00:22,484 --> 00:00:24,005 talk about when you should use it, and 13 00:00:24,005 --> 00:00:26,244 we're gonna talk about the technical details of 14 00:00:26,244 --> 00:00:28,750 IO Link, like, all the things, like, engineering 15 00:00:28,750 --> 00:00:30,510 minds like to know about. So I think 16 00:00:30,510 --> 00:00:31,789 you guys are gonna enjoy this. It took 17 00:00:31,789 --> 00:00:33,789 about two to three hours to edit this 18 00:00:33,789 --> 00:00:36,189 one, and I really enjoyed going back through 19 00:00:36,189 --> 00:00:37,549 it. You know, we recorded it, I think, 20 00:00:37,549 --> 00:00:39,309 four weeks ago. So I hadn't seen it 21 00:00:39,309 --> 00:00:40,664 in four weeks, but I really did enjoy 22 00:00:40,664 --> 00:00:42,104 it. I really think you guys will enjoy 23 00:00:42,104 --> 00:00:43,804 it too. And that brings up another point. 24 00:00:44,184 --> 00:00:47,325 Organizations like PI and ISA and other organizations, 25 00:00:47,465 --> 00:00:49,884 they're not vendors. They don't sell stuff. Right? 26 00:00:50,265 --> 00:00:52,344 And so this episode is not sponsored by 27 00:00:52,344 --> 00:00:53,004 a vendor. 28 00:00:53,489 --> 00:00:53,989 And, 29 00:00:54,369 --> 00:00:55,890 you know, as I was going through it 30 00:00:55,890 --> 00:00:57,729 yesterday, I was like, you know, there's a 31 00:00:57,729 --> 00:00:59,089 lot of great slides in here. I wanna 32 00:00:59,089 --> 00:01:00,949 share it with the public. So I've decided 33 00:01:01,009 --> 00:01:03,489 to sponsor this episode myself, and I'll use 34 00:01:03,489 --> 00:01:04,930 this as an opportunity to tell you a 35 00:01:04,930 --> 00:01:06,689 little bit about my company and the automation 36 00:01:06,689 --> 00:01:09,645 blog, the automation school, and the content I 37 00:01:09,645 --> 00:01:11,984 have planned to release this fall, including 38 00:01:12,444 --> 00:01:15,825 content on these products right here, all focused 39 00:01:15,885 --> 00:01:17,484 on IO Link. And I just actually did 40 00:01:17,484 --> 00:01:19,724 a live stream with these, products in front 41 00:01:19,724 --> 00:01:21,484 of me. I'll be doing more tomorrow, and 42 00:01:21,484 --> 00:01:23,250 I'll be adding lessons to my, 43 00:01:23,810 --> 00:01:26,049 courses as well on these products. So in 44 00:01:26,049 --> 00:01:27,969 any case, but before we get to that, 45 00:01:27,969 --> 00:01:29,730 let's go ahead and jump right into the 46 00:01:29,730 --> 00:01:32,049 show and hear from Michael and learn all 47 00:01:32,049 --> 00:01:35,409 about IO Link. I wanna welcome back Michael 48 00:01:35,409 --> 00:01:37,189 to the show. It has been 49 00:01:37,965 --> 00:01:40,305 four years. He was last on in podcast 50 00:01:40,364 --> 00:01:41,344 76, 51 00:01:42,284 --> 00:01:45,564 back in September 2021. So just going on 52 00:01:45,564 --> 00:01:46,305 four years. 53 00:01:46,685 --> 00:01:48,685 Michael, thank you for coming back on the 54 00:01:48,685 --> 00:01:49,185 show. 55 00:01:49,645 --> 00:01:50,545 If you could, 56 00:01:51,150 --> 00:01:53,423 a lot of people may not remember four 57 00:01:53,423 --> 00:01:55,696 years ago. Mhmm. So before we jump into 58 00:01:55,696 --> 00:01:57,969 your presentation, which which I am so excited 59 00:01:57,969 --> 00:02:00,243 about talking about IO Link again. But before 60 00:02:00,243 --> 00:02:02,516 we jump into that, could you please tell 61 00:02:02,516 --> 00:02:04,790 me a little bit about yourself and a 62 00:02:04,790 --> 00:02:06,814 little bit about PI? Yeah. Sure. First of 63 00:02:06,814 --> 00:02:07,395 all, my 64 00:02:08,094 --> 00:02:08,594 pleasure, 65 00:02:09,055 --> 00:02:10,895 to be back on on the podcast. It 66 00:02:10,895 --> 00:02:11,854 was a lot, a lot of fun. I 67 00:02:11,854 --> 00:02:12,675 remember that 68 00:02:13,055 --> 00:02:14,814 back in in 2021, 69 00:02:14,814 --> 00:02:15,215 and, 70 00:02:16,014 --> 00:02:17,775 I'm glad to be be back doing it 71 00:02:17,775 --> 00:02:20,509 again. I started with PI North America in 72 00:02:20,509 --> 00:02:21,330 2011 73 00:02:21,389 --> 00:02:23,090 as the technical marketing director. 74 00:02:23,469 --> 00:02:24,769 And since 2016, 75 00:02:24,909 --> 00:02:27,229 I've been the executive director running the show 76 00:02:27,229 --> 00:02:29,250 and chairman of the board since last year. 77 00:02:29,629 --> 00:02:29,870 I, 78 00:02:30,715 --> 00:02:33,215 have the, let's say, pleasure to serve 79 00:02:33,674 --> 00:02:35,995 as the deputy chairman of PI on a 80 00:02:35,995 --> 00:02:38,014 global scale since 2015, 81 00:02:38,394 --> 00:02:39,935 and I come from a 82 00:02:40,394 --> 00:02:42,155 prior to working for PI, I worked for 83 00:02:42,155 --> 00:02:44,794 a sensor manufacturer who had some interfaces on 84 00:02:44,794 --> 00:02:47,400 there that that brought me an introduct to 85 00:02:47,460 --> 00:02:48,680 to Profibus and Profinet. 86 00:02:49,219 --> 00:02:50,599 And before that, I studied, 87 00:02:51,139 --> 00:02:53,699 physics and and math at at Penn State 88 00:02:53,699 --> 00:02:54,199 University. 89 00:02:54,979 --> 00:02:56,900 Just, really quick for those. I'm I'm sure 90 00:02:56,900 --> 00:02:58,919 many of you are familiar with with PI, 91 00:02:59,694 --> 00:03:01,534 but, it was started in the late eighties. 92 00:03:01,534 --> 00:03:02,354 Half a dozen 93 00:03:02,655 --> 00:03:04,655 companies and universities got together, and they wrote 94 00:03:04,655 --> 00:03:05,314 the PROFIBUS 95 00:03:05,854 --> 00:03:07,715 spec, and that evolved into 96 00:03:08,334 --> 00:03:10,894 the into into PROFIBUS DP and PROFIBUS PA 97 00:03:10,894 --> 00:03:12,995 for process automation in the early two thousands. 98 00:03:13,569 --> 00:03:15,810 PROFINET came under the umbrella. And the reason 99 00:03:15,810 --> 00:03:17,110 I bring all this up is because 100 00:03:17,489 --> 00:03:19,969 there are some newer technologies under our umbrella 101 00:03:19,969 --> 00:03:22,129 that I I think the audience might wanna 102 00:03:22,129 --> 00:03:23,889 know about. Of course, EyeLink is is the 103 00:03:23,889 --> 00:03:25,169 one that we'll talk about today, and that 104 00:03:25,169 --> 00:03:27,189 was in 02/2009. 105 00:03:27,224 --> 00:03:29,145 But there are some others like Umlocks, which 106 00:03:29,145 --> 00:03:30,925 is a location tracking standard. 107 00:03:31,465 --> 00:03:34,764 There's one called MTP, module type package, 108 00:03:35,305 --> 00:03:38,125 NOAA, NAMR open architecture, also under our umbrella. 109 00:03:38,185 --> 00:03:39,724 And, basically, what we do is 110 00:03:40,585 --> 00:03:41,645 promote, maintain, 111 00:03:42,729 --> 00:03:44,669 write the specs, turn them into standards, 112 00:03:45,050 --> 00:03:46,810 and the work on those specs is done 113 00:03:46,810 --> 00:03:49,870 in working groups, which are staffed by volunteers, 114 00:03:50,889 --> 00:03:52,430 engineers from member companies. 115 00:03:52,729 --> 00:03:54,650 They donate their time to to develop the 116 00:03:54,650 --> 00:03:55,150 specs, 117 00:03:56,435 --> 00:03:58,754 for these technologies we have under our umbrella. 118 00:03:58,754 --> 00:04:00,034 And we're a little bit unique in that 119 00:04:00,034 --> 00:04:00,935 we're decentralized. 120 00:04:01,555 --> 00:04:02,055 So 121 00:04:02,675 --> 00:04:04,834 we have competence centers and test labs and 122 00:04:04,834 --> 00:04:06,995 training centers located throughout the world. It's not 123 00:04:06,995 --> 00:04:08,294 all just in one headquarter 124 00:04:08,594 --> 00:04:09,414 kind of place, 125 00:04:10,060 --> 00:04:12,300 and they're all independent. But they have a 126 00:04:12,300 --> 00:04:14,780 contract or quality of services agreement with PI 127 00:04:14,780 --> 00:04:16,459 that says, hey. If you have a question 128 00:04:16,459 --> 00:04:18,379 about the technologies, go to a competent center. 129 00:04:18,379 --> 00:04:19,980 If you want further training, go to a 130 00:04:19,980 --> 00:04:21,819 training center. If you want to to test 131 00:04:21,819 --> 00:04:23,694 the device, go to a test lab. And 132 00:04:23,694 --> 00:04:26,495 then they are all working with regional PI 133 00:04:26,495 --> 00:04:26,995 associations 134 00:04:27,615 --> 00:04:29,855 of which we PI North America is one 135 00:04:29,855 --> 00:04:32,735 of them. We were founded in 1994 136 00:04:32,735 --> 00:04:34,014 by a guy by the name of Mike 137 00:04:34,014 --> 00:04:35,935 Bryant. At that time, we were called Probibus 138 00:04:35,935 --> 00:04:36,754 Trade Organization. 139 00:04:38,069 --> 00:04:39,269 And we are the and now I didn't 140 00:04:39,269 --> 00:04:40,870 come up with this this name. We are 141 00:04:40,870 --> 00:04:43,669 the North American Rio League. This is a 142 00:04:43,750 --> 00:04:44,729 an IO Link 143 00:04:45,349 --> 00:04:48,169 designation, a regional IO Link interest group, 144 00:04:48,870 --> 00:04:50,889 which means that we have a a separate 145 00:04:51,725 --> 00:04:53,725 contract and and quality of services agreement with 146 00:04:53,725 --> 00:04:55,185 the IO Link community 147 00:04:55,485 --> 00:04:57,745 to to promote and and work with members, 148 00:04:58,205 --> 00:04:59,904 specifically for IO Link here in 149 00:05:00,365 --> 00:05:03,585 in North America. And we're nonprofit, member supported. 150 00:05:04,205 --> 00:05:06,365 I got nothing. So you're talking about products 151 00:05:06,365 --> 00:05:08,500 and and and stuff at the beginning. I 152 00:05:08,500 --> 00:05:09,960 got nothing to sell today. 153 00:05:10,340 --> 00:05:12,520 We're we're working solely on on technology. 154 00:05:13,060 --> 00:05:14,259 You know, I do wanna throw out there, 155 00:05:14,259 --> 00:05:16,500 though, you have a great update every month 156 00:05:16,500 --> 00:05:17,800 about all the new products 157 00:05:18,340 --> 00:05:20,340 that fall in the buckets of IO Link, 158 00:05:20,340 --> 00:05:21,400 PROFINET, PROFIBUS, 159 00:05:22,145 --> 00:05:23,904 and a lot of those new products across 160 00:05:23,904 --> 00:05:26,064 our IO Link. So while they may not 161 00:05:26,064 --> 00:05:27,685 have products of their own, 162 00:05:28,064 --> 00:05:30,545 they do keep the, industry up to date 163 00:05:30,545 --> 00:05:32,944 on who's joining up and signing up, for 164 00:05:32,944 --> 00:05:34,865 these new these you know, the jump on 165 00:05:34,865 --> 00:05:37,229 board and release new products that, that, you 166 00:05:37,229 --> 00:05:39,629 know, meet these specifications. And you know what? 167 00:05:39,629 --> 00:05:42,349 Maybe you're not using PROFINET because you're using 168 00:05:42,349 --> 00:05:43,649 brand x or y. 169 00:05:44,029 --> 00:05:46,189 You still probably use an IO Link. So 170 00:05:46,349 --> 00:05:49,229 Oh, that's for sure. Very interesting very interesting 171 00:05:49,229 --> 00:05:52,154 updates that you publish every month and, as 172 00:05:52,154 --> 00:05:53,754 a blog. And, I know when I was 173 00:05:53,754 --> 00:05:55,115 doing the news for a couple years, I 174 00:05:55,115 --> 00:05:56,395 would always, go to your site to look 175 00:05:56,395 --> 00:05:58,314 for new updates. Cool. Yeah. Yeah. I guess, 176 00:05:58,475 --> 00:05:59,435 I got a slide on that at the 177 00:05:59,435 --> 00:06:00,714 end, but the the you're referring to the, 178 00:06:00,875 --> 00:06:01,535 the PROFINews. 179 00:06:02,235 --> 00:06:04,870 Yes. The PROFINews. Yeah. Yeah. That's a that's 180 00:06:04,870 --> 00:06:06,229 that's been a baby and a labor of 181 00:06:06,229 --> 00:06:06,729 love, 182 00:06:07,589 --> 00:06:09,110 for a while now. And and, oh, man, 183 00:06:09,110 --> 00:06:11,029 it's it's it's incredible because every month, the 184 00:06:11,029 --> 00:06:12,709 most when we track this kind of stuff, 185 00:06:12,709 --> 00:06:14,709 obviously, the most popular article is the new 186 00:06:14,709 --> 00:06:16,389 products. Well, because that's what, right, that's what 187 00:06:16,389 --> 00:06:17,750 people want is the stuff they can buy, 188 00:06:17,750 --> 00:06:18,810 the stuff they can use. 189 00:06:19,305 --> 00:06:20,985 Yeah. Yeah. That's and we got another one 190 00:06:20,985 --> 00:06:22,824 coming out next week, and every month, we 191 00:06:22,824 --> 00:06:24,365 we push that out, and it's always 192 00:06:24,904 --> 00:06:26,605 half a dozen or a dozen new products, 193 00:06:26,745 --> 00:06:28,665 half of which are are IO Link. I 194 00:06:28,665 --> 00:06:30,824 mean, it's just growing like crazy. Yeah. And 195 00:06:30,824 --> 00:06:32,504 you guys have had some good articles. I 196 00:06:32,504 --> 00:06:33,960 think you had a great series, and I'm 197 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,199 now I'm stretching it. So stretching the old 198 00:06:36,199 --> 00:06:38,120 memory here. I thought you had a great 199 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:39,819 series on on, MTP, 200 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,040 which I really enjoyed. Did did I remember 201 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:42,699 that correctly? 202 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:44,680 Yeah. We we try and, you know, we 203 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,000 try and get some editorial content in there. 204 00:06:47,764 --> 00:06:49,605 It's it calls it falls into, like, three 205 00:06:49,605 --> 00:06:51,524 main buckets. What's new products? What are new 206 00:06:51,524 --> 00:06:53,764 trainings and events that are coming up? And 207 00:06:53,764 --> 00:06:55,544 then and then some editorial content. 208 00:06:56,084 --> 00:06:58,004 I think I think what we're driving at 209 00:06:58,004 --> 00:06:59,444 is I think we need to do maybe 210 00:06:59,444 --> 00:07:01,639 an MTP podcast here at some point in 211 00:07:01,639 --> 00:07:03,399 the down the road. Probably. Yeah. Down the 212 00:07:03,399 --> 00:07:04,139 road. Definitely. 213 00:07:04,519 --> 00:07:06,519 Definitely. I I'm still you know, I still 214 00:07:06,519 --> 00:07:09,000 have a very casual understanding of it. But, 215 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:10,360 let me throw it back to you because 216 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:12,535 I kinda jumped in and interrupted your your 217 00:07:12,535 --> 00:07:13,514 your, update. 218 00:07:13,895 --> 00:07:15,175 No. It's good. It saves it saves us 219 00:07:15,175 --> 00:07:16,455 at the end when when that slide, we 220 00:07:16,455 --> 00:07:18,455 can just just jump over it. Now we've 221 00:07:18,455 --> 00:07:19,895 we've got it covered, and it's and it's 222 00:07:19,895 --> 00:07:21,975 an and it's an important one. But you 223 00:07:21,975 --> 00:07:23,415 kinda you kinda gave me a nice lead 224 00:07:23,415 --> 00:07:24,775 into the to the next one, which talks 225 00:07:24,775 --> 00:07:25,139 about, 226 00:07:25,620 --> 00:07:27,220 the Ireland community. And I'll start from the 227 00:07:27,220 --> 00:07:29,080 bottom, work my way up as being fieldbus 228 00:07:29,300 --> 00:07:29,800 independent. 229 00:07:30,580 --> 00:07:31,939 I just wanna break in here for a 230 00:07:31,939 --> 00:07:34,180 moment and thank you folks in the audience 231 00:07:34,180 --> 00:07:36,199 who've signed up for my membership program. 232 00:07:36,580 --> 00:07:39,395 Really, really appreciate you all. Eighteen months ago, 233 00:07:39,395 --> 00:07:41,555 after reviewing ten plus years of being on 234 00:07:41,555 --> 00:07:42,055 YouTube, 235 00:07:42,754 --> 00:07:44,514 you know, it was pretty obvious that there's 236 00:07:44,514 --> 00:07:46,835 no real revenue on YouTube. I mean, it 237 00:07:46,835 --> 00:07:48,694 comes in at maybe 1% 238 00:07:49,074 --> 00:07:50,295 of my monthly expenses. 239 00:07:50,789 --> 00:07:53,189 And so that ad revenue there is just 240 00:07:53,189 --> 00:07:55,509 not something to rely on going forward because 241 00:07:55,509 --> 00:07:57,430 it's not something that's been reliable in the 242 00:07:57,430 --> 00:07:59,750 past. And so I set up the membership 243 00:07:59,750 --> 00:08:03,050 program both on YouTube and at the automationblog.com. 244 00:08:03,355 --> 00:08:04,875 And I wanna thank all of you who 245 00:08:04,875 --> 00:08:06,875 signed up. I, we have a $5 tier, 246 00:08:06,875 --> 00:08:08,154 which I know most people sign up at, 247 00:08:08,154 --> 00:08:09,514 and then we have a couple other higher 248 00:08:09,514 --> 00:08:11,514 tiers. And so I just wanted to thank 249 00:08:11,514 --> 00:08:13,995 you all for doing that. You are actually 250 00:08:14,154 --> 00:08:17,055 the membership program's probably 3% of my monthly, 251 00:08:17,610 --> 00:08:20,410 revenue. And so that's, you know, one or 252 00:08:20,410 --> 00:08:22,009 two times more, than, 253 00:08:22,649 --> 00:08:24,569 what the YouTube revenue was. So thank you 254 00:08:24,569 --> 00:08:26,410 all for that. And I hope that, some 255 00:08:26,410 --> 00:08:27,610 of you who are not part of the 256 00:08:27,610 --> 00:08:31,050 membership program will consider becoming a member, supporting 257 00:08:31,050 --> 00:08:33,315 my work so I can do videos that 258 00:08:33,315 --> 00:08:35,634 are not always sponsored videos. Now I love 259 00:08:35,634 --> 00:08:37,154 sponsored videos. I love it when a vendor 260 00:08:37,154 --> 00:08:38,995 sends me a piece of hardware and then 261 00:08:38,995 --> 00:08:40,434 sits down with me and teach me how 262 00:08:40,434 --> 00:08:41,634 to use it so I can create a 263 00:08:41,634 --> 00:08:42,134 video 264 00:08:42,674 --> 00:08:45,139 ad free and share with you on how 265 00:08:45,139 --> 00:08:46,660 to use that product, or maybe they just 266 00:08:46,660 --> 00:08:48,419 come on the podcast and sponsor it to 267 00:08:48,419 --> 00:08:50,340 make it ad free so we can tell 268 00:08:50,340 --> 00:08:52,899 their story about their product or service. And 269 00:08:52,899 --> 00:08:54,580 I I will continue to do that going 270 00:08:54,580 --> 00:08:57,139 forward, but I would really also like to 271 00:08:57,139 --> 00:08:57,879 do more 272 00:08:58,214 --> 00:09:01,975 audience generated type of, content. So content where 273 00:09:01,975 --> 00:09:03,975 you generate the idea and say, Sean, why 274 00:09:03,975 --> 00:09:05,495 don't you try this? Or, Sean, why don't 275 00:09:05,495 --> 00:09:07,414 you do this? And a lot of those 276 00:09:07,414 --> 00:09:09,975 topics that the audience wants to see, they're 277 00:09:09,975 --> 00:09:12,615 not necessarily topics that the vendor wants to 278 00:09:12,615 --> 00:09:15,470 promote with advertising dollars. Okay? And so that's 279 00:09:15,470 --> 00:09:17,950 the whole purpose of the, membership program. Like 280 00:09:17,950 --> 00:09:19,710 I said, right now, it's around 3% of 281 00:09:19,710 --> 00:09:22,269 my monthly income comes from and I'm talking 282 00:09:22,269 --> 00:09:24,590 about the business income, not my personal income, 283 00:09:24,590 --> 00:09:26,830 the business income. 3% of what the business 284 00:09:26,830 --> 00:09:29,070 needs to, to move forward and pay its 285 00:09:29,070 --> 00:09:31,835 bills every month. But, still, I that that, 286 00:09:31,835 --> 00:09:33,514 you know, so many of you have decided 287 00:09:33,514 --> 00:09:35,434 to jump in and support me. I just 288 00:09:35,434 --> 00:09:37,434 wanted to stop and say thank you very 289 00:09:37,434 --> 00:09:39,195 much from the bottom of my heart. And 290 00:09:39,195 --> 00:09:41,375 if you're not part of the membership program 291 00:09:41,434 --> 00:09:43,675 and you're doing financially well, please consider if 292 00:09:43,675 --> 00:09:46,549 you enjoy. This is episode two forty six 293 00:09:46,690 --> 00:09:48,149 of the automation podcast. 294 00:09:48,529 --> 00:09:50,289 Every episode has been free. The audio has 295 00:09:50,289 --> 00:09:52,129 been free for all 246 296 00:09:52,129 --> 00:09:53,970 of them. And most of those episodes I 297 00:09:53,970 --> 00:09:56,529 funded myself just by well, you can understand 298 00:09:56,529 --> 00:09:57,809 how you fund something when you don't have 299 00:09:57,809 --> 00:09:59,804 the income coming in. But in any case, 300 00:09:59,804 --> 00:10:01,804 if you enjoy it, please consider becoming a 301 00:10:01,804 --> 00:10:03,245 member, and we can branch out and do 302 00:10:03,245 --> 00:10:05,644 other things together. And with that, let's go 303 00:10:05,644 --> 00:10:07,245 ahead and jump back into this week's episode 304 00:10:07,245 --> 00:10:09,424 and learn more about IO Link. 305 00:10:09,804 --> 00:10:11,264 So like you said, yeah. I mean, 306 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:12,340 organizationally, 307 00:10:12,879 --> 00:10:15,040 the IO Link community came to PI in 308 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,519 2009 and organizationally under PI because we have 309 00:10:17,519 --> 00:10:19,379 the infrastructure for working groups and 310 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:22,399 and IP policies and contracts and things like 311 00:10:22,399 --> 00:10:24,480 that. But the IO Link community has their 312 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,134 own steering committee, and from the from the 313 00:10:27,134 --> 00:10:29,215 outset and from every IO Link event that 314 00:10:29,215 --> 00:10:30,595 we do and everything that we do 315 00:10:31,054 --> 00:10:32,595 is is independent 316 00:10:33,215 --> 00:10:33,455 of, 317 00:10:34,415 --> 00:10:36,575 of any Profibus or Profinet stuff. And we 318 00:10:36,575 --> 00:10:38,434 try really, really hard to maintain that independence, 319 00:10:39,855 --> 00:10:41,394 no matter what vendor you're using. 320 00:10:41,750 --> 00:10:43,990 And there, at this point, we've got 500 321 00:10:43,990 --> 00:10:46,389 companies in the IO Link community, and it's 322 00:10:46,389 --> 00:10:49,110 really just growing by by leaps and bounds. 323 00:10:49,509 --> 00:10:51,289 So we kinda track this stuff 324 00:10:52,470 --> 00:10:53,610 by nodes 325 00:10:54,149 --> 00:10:56,490 and all the IO Link companies. 326 00:10:56,834 --> 00:10:57,574 They send 327 00:10:58,434 --> 00:11:00,855 their node count to an independent auditor, 328 00:11:01,634 --> 00:11:02,134 collects 329 00:11:02,434 --> 00:11:03,174 the counts, 330 00:11:03,554 --> 00:11:06,294 and gives us back an an an anonymous 331 00:11:06,355 --> 00:11:08,355 total. So we don't know where or who 332 00:11:08,355 --> 00:11:10,214 is selling them, but we get the total. 333 00:11:10,419 --> 00:11:12,419 And you can just see this this hockey 334 00:11:12,419 --> 00:11:13,960 stick exponential growth. 335 00:11:14,340 --> 00:11:17,299 Particularly in 2023, there was some supply chain 336 00:11:17,299 --> 00:11:18,980 over purchasing that that went on. I mean, 337 00:11:18,980 --> 00:11:20,980 that's like we're looking at a a growth 338 00:11:20,980 --> 00:11:22,340 rate of 89% 339 00:11:22,340 --> 00:11:24,674 there, which is obviously unsustainable. But 340 00:11:24,995 --> 00:11:25,495 still, 341 00:11:26,355 --> 00:11:28,595 last year, 9,700,000 342 00:11:28,595 --> 00:11:29,654 nodes were added. 343 00:11:30,914 --> 00:11:31,414 Again, 344 00:11:31,794 --> 00:11:33,334 because it's field bus independent, 345 00:11:34,674 --> 00:11:36,134 it really has no competitor. 346 00:11:36,595 --> 00:11:38,115 And that's what's kinda cool about IO Link. 347 00:11:38,115 --> 00:11:39,769 I mean, you wanna do and and you 348 00:11:39,769 --> 00:11:40,589 don't need 349 00:11:41,449 --> 00:11:43,129 to choose a field bus and therefore get 350 00:11:43,129 --> 00:11:44,409 IO Link. You can use any field bus 351 00:11:44,409 --> 00:11:46,329 or industrial container protocol, and IO Link works 352 00:11:46,329 --> 00:11:48,250 with it. You know, I wanna just, mention 353 00:11:48,250 --> 00:11:50,009 for the audio listeners. If we go back 354 00:11:50,009 --> 00:11:51,855 to 2012, it looks like 355 00:11:52,334 --> 00:11:54,815 we're probably at the 1,000,000 mark or below 356 00:11:54,815 --> 00:11:55,315 it. 357 00:11:55,695 --> 00:11:58,254 And as you go to, you know, 2022, 358 00:11:58,254 --> 00:12:01,394 you look like you're 35,700,000. 359 00:12:01,695 --> 00:12:03,899 Is that 2022 or 2023? 360 00:12:04,059 --> 00:12:05,420 Yeah. That's the 2022. 361 00:12:05,420 --> 00:12:06,940 Exactly. 35,700,000.0. 362 00:12:06,940 --> 00:12:07,440 Yeah. 363 00:12:07,820 --> 00:12:09,660 And then at, the end of twenty twenty 364 00:12:09,660 --> 00:12:11,180 three, we're at 51.6. 365 00:12:11,180 --> 00:12:13,040 So you talked about that, you know, overbuying. 366 00:12:13,500 --> 00:12:15,500 And then at the end of 2024, we're 367 00:12:15,500 --> 00:12:17,360 at 61,300,000.0. 368 00:12:18,084 --> 00:12:20,004 So you can just see from, you know, 369 00:12:20,004 --> 00:12:21,205 2022 to, 370 00:12:21,684 --> 00:12:22,745 2024, 371 00:12:22,964 --> 00:12:25,284 you went from 35 to 61. 372 00:12:25,284 --> 00:12:27,284 So the adoption, like you said, it's a 373 00:12:27,284 --> 00:12:29,845 hockey stick. The adoption has really picked up. 374 00:12:29,845 --> 00:12:31,445 And I think you you hit the nail 375 00:12:31,445 --> 00:12:33,544 on the head because it is fieldbus independent. 376 00:12:33,950 --> 00:12:36,049 It's a way to just get more information 377 00:12:36,190 --> 00:12:38,990 out of our devices, like sensors and photo 378 00:12:38,990 --> 00:12:41,169 eyes, you know, and it's just you know? 379 00:12:41,309 --> 00:12:43,230 I mean, though, these chipsets that come in 380 00:12:43,230 --> 00:12:45,250 these, devices now are just amazing. 381 00:12:46,750 --> 00:12:48,669 And that's what, I mean, that's what the 382 00:12:48,669 --> 00:12:49,845 whole point of this is. 383 00:12:50,485 --> 00:12:52,184 You're you're not gonna put a 384 00:12:52,804 --> 00:12:56,725 $5 ethernet chip, like, enter $5 ethernet interface 385 00:12:56,725 --> 00:12:58,404 on a $15 386 00:12:58,404 --> 00:12:59,784 proximity sensor. But 387 00:13:00,644 --> 00:13:03,064 computing and memory has gotten really, really small 388 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,600 and really, really cheap that it's on just 389 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:06,339 about everything. 390 00:13:07,759 --> 00:13:10,000 And so this proximity sensor not only can 391 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:11,679 tell you if, like, for example, let's say 392 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:12,960 it's on a conveyor belt. It cannot only 393 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:14,320 tell you if the box is there or 394 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:15,919 not, but it can tell you how many 395 00:13:15,919 --> 00:13:18,054 blue boxes would buy or how many red 396 00:13:18,054 --> 00:13:19,975 boxes would buy or if the box that's 397 00:13:19,975 --> 00:13:22,634 going by is off kilter or or misaligned 398 00:13:22,774 --> 00:13:24,134 or something like that. But how do you 399 00:13:24,134 --> 00:13:27,195 get that data out in in inexpensively, and 400 00:13:27,495 --> 00:13:29,254 here we are. IO Link is is the 401 00:13:29,254 --> 00:13:30,709 way to do it. I'm sad to see 402 00:13:30,709 --> 00:13:32,470 a lot of these sensors too come with 403 00:13:32,470 --> 00:13:35,269 humidity, temperature, and all these other things should 404 00:13:35,269 --> 00:13:36,629 be like, really? I can get that out 405 00:13:36,629 --> 00:13:39,289 of my photo eye. But yeah. Multivariable. Exactly. 406 00:13:39,350 --> 00:13:41,589 Yeah. Yeah. You know, traditionally, with an analog 407 00:13:41,589 --> 00:13:43,110 interface, how did you get that? You couldn't 408 00:13:43,110 --> 00:13:45,184 get it. Mhmm. But now with a digital 409 00:13:45,184 --> 00:13:46,884 interface, which is what we're talking about, digitalization 410 00:13:46,945 --> 00:13:48,225 in the last meter, now you can get 411 00:13:48,225 --> 00:13:50,084 that informate that data, that information, 412 00:13:50,704 --> 00:13:52,464 and do some pretty cool stuff with it. 413 00:13:52,464 --> 00:13:53,684 Yes. You can. Yeah. 414 00:13:54,065 --> 00:13:55,424 I'll talk a little bit about the architecture 415 00:13:55,424 --> 00:13:56,730 a little bit here to kind of get 416 00:13:56,730 --> 00:13:58,330 a little bit into the technical side of 417 00:13:58,330 --> 00:13:59,149 things about 418 00:13:59,450 --> 00:14:01,129 how IO Link works, but it they're kind 419 00:14:01,129 --> 00:14:02,809 of some main devices, and that's the IO 420 00:14:02,809 --> 00:14:04,350 Link masters and the IO Link devices. 421 00:14:05,690 --> 00:14:08,029 And these IO Link masters are available for 422 00:14:08,250 --> 00:14:10,889 we have here 16 different industrial Ethernet or 423 00:14:10,889 --> 00:14:11,865 field bus systems. 424 00:14:12,345 --> 00:14:14,044 21 manufacturers offer 425 00:14:14,745 --> 00:14:17,304 central PLC, like an IO Link master built 426 00:14:17,304 --> 00:14:18,985 into the backplane of the PLC if you 427 00:14:18,985 --> 00:14:19,644 so desired. 428 00:14:20,024 --> 00:14:22,024 And the number of devices that so that 429 00:14:22,024 --> 00:14:23,945 hockey stick we showed before is just exploding. 430 00:14:23,945 --> 00:14:24,924 I mean, we've got 431 00:14:26,169 --> 00:14:27,450 60 something million sold, 432 00:14:28,889 --> 00:14:29,950 and we have 433 00:14:30,649 --> 00:14:33,210 tens of thousands of unique IO Link devices 434 00:14:33,210 --> 00:14:33,710 from 435 00:14:34,250 --> 00:14:36,750 hundreds of different device manufacturers that have implemented 436 00:14:36,809 --> 00:14:37,470 this interface. 437 00:14:38,054 --> 00:14:39,654 And for those that if there's anybody on 438 00:14:39,654 --> 00:14:41,254 the podcast that wants to do this and 439 00:14:41,254 --> 00:14:42,394 add this to their sensors, 440 00:14:42,934 --> 00:14:44,534 there are a number of different companies that 441 00:14:44,534 --> 00:14:45,034 help 442 00:14:45,575 --> 00:14:46,075 with, 443 00:14:46,934 --> 00:14:49,514 product design, either with the chips, the transceivers, 444 00:14:49,654 --> 00:14:51,789 the software stacks, and then a number of 445 00:14:51,789 --> 00:14:54,110 companies that help provide technical support in order 446 00:14:54,110 --> 00:14:54,929 to do that. 447 00:14:57,309 --> 00:14:59,409 So an IO Link system kind of 448 00:14:59,789 --> 00:15:02,029 is made up of four parts. Like I 449 00:15:02,029 --> 00:15:03,934 said, you have the IO Link master. That's 450 00:15:03,934 --> 00:15:06,254 the gateway between the IO Link devices, the 451 00:15:06,254 --> 00:15:08,195 IO Link interface, and the higher level communication 452 00:15:08,254 --> 00:15:10,654 system, such as the fieldbus or the in 453 00:15:10,735 --> 00:15:12,514 industrial Ethernet protocol or backplane. 454 00:15:13,134 --> 00:15:15,455 You have the devices. This is the exciting 455 00:15:15,455 --> 00:15:18,414 part. Your sensors, your switch gears, your valves, 456 00:15:18,414 --> 00:15:21,830 your signal lamps, maybe some simple actuators, whatever 457 00:15:21,830 --> 00:15:23,830 the case may be. You've got a IO 458 00:15:23,830 --> 00:15:26,090 Link cable, just a three wire unshielded, 459 00:15:26,470 --> 00:15:27,290 super simple 460 00:15:27,910 --> 00:15:30,389 connection between the master and the devices. And 461 00:15:30,389 --> 00:15:32,730 then every device has an IODD 462 00:15:33,110 --> 00:15:35,529 or IO Link device description file, 463 00:15:36,125 --> 00:15:38,625 and I'll explain how that gets used to 464 00:15:38,684 --> 00:15:41,485 engineer and parameterize the IO Link system and 465 00:15:41,485 --> 00:15:42,465 the and the devices. 466 00:15:43,485 --> 00:15:44,384 And what this 467 00:15:45,085 --> 00:15:46,065 kind of enables 468 00:15:47,164 --> 00:15:47,804 you know, 469 00:15:48,205 --> 00:15:48,705 traditionally, 470 00:15:49,644 --> 00:15:50,705 communication only 471 00:15:51,069 --> 00:15:53,009 reached the IO level. 472 00:15:53,309 --> 00:15:55,809 You had connection between the PLCs 473 00:15:56,669 --> 00:15:59,870 and the and the the the IO, and 474 00:15:59,870 --> 00:16:01,809 then it kinda stopped there because all those 475 00:16:01,949 --> 00:16:02,929 sensors and actuators 476 00:16:03,414 --> 00:16:04,235 were not accessible. 477 00:16:05,335 --> 00:16:07,815 They were analog, and you got your one 478 00:16:07,815 --> 00:16:09,815 process data. You brought process signal, and that's 479 00:16:09,815 --> 00:16:10,634 where it ended. 480 00:16:11,254 --> 00:16:13,495 But with IO Link, what we do is 481 00:16:13,495 --> 00:16:14,634 we enable that communication 482 00:16:15,014 --> 00:16:15,514 bidirectional, 483 00:16:16,134 --> 00:16:18,690 cyclic and acyclic, and that's the cool part, 484 00:16:19,409 --> 00:16:20,389 all the way from 485 00:16:20,929 --> 00:16:23,029 higher level systems, not only to the PLC 486 00:16:23,090 --> 00:16:25,409 or especially from the PLC, but down all 487 00:16:25,409 --> 00:16:26,309 the way down 488 00:16:26,690 --> 00:16:28,929 to the simple sensors and actuators, which are 489 00:16:28,929 --> 00:16:29,750 now accessible. 490 00:16:30,289 --> 00:16:32,174 And you kinda touched on this before where 491 00:16:32,334 --> 00:16:34,514 these chipsets have gotten really, really 492 00:16:35,294 --> 00:16:37,855 smart and really, really powerful. And it's not 493 00:16:37,855 --> 00:16:38,355 that 494 00:16:38,735 --> 00:16:39,235 the 495 00:16:39,615 --> 00:16:42,095 it's not that any of these use cases 496 00:16:42,095 --> 00:16:42,834 that are 497 00:16:43,214 --> 00:16:44,894 that are being solved with IO Link that 498 00:16:44,894 --> 00:16:46,815 none of them are new. What's new is 499 00:16:46,815 --> 00:16:48,059 the ease with which 500 00:16:48,940 --> 00:16:50,080 they can be solved. 501 00:16:50,779 --> 00:16:52,379 So because you can get all this extra 502 00:16:52,379 --> 00:16:54,480 data out, things like OEE, 503 00:16:55,419 --> 00:16:58,080 showing things like downtime tracking, track and trace, 504 00:16:58,379 --> 00:17:02,059 predictive maintenance, for example, remote monitoring, recipe management, 505 00:17:02,059 --> 00:17:03,855 SPC, all these things. It's not that these 506 00:17:03,855 --> 00:17:04,835 use cases are 507 00:17:05,214 --> 00:17:06,734 now being solved. The you know, we've we've 508 00:17:06,734 --> 00:17:08,255 been doing this for a long, long time. 509 00:17:08,255 --> 00:17:10,035 It's just the ease with which because 510 00:17:10,974 --> 00:17:12,195 because it's a standard 511 00:17:12,734 --> 00:17:14,575 and because all this stuff is standardized in 512 00:17:14,575 --> 00:17:16,174 how it gets from the the the device 513 00:17:16,174 --> 00:17:18,035 to the master and upwards to the controller, 514 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:20,559 it just makes it easier. If you spend 515 00:17:20,559 --> 00:17:23,279 all your effort trying to gather and collect 516 00:17:23,279 --> 00:17:26,079 and sanitize the data because every device is 517 00:17:26,079 --> 00:17:28,079 different and, you know, that's just that's just 518 00:17:28,079 --> 00:17:30,400 a mess, and the ROI disappears really fast 519 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:32,179 on any kind of project to do that. 520 00:17:32,365 --> 00:17:33,724 But if we have a standard on how 521 00:17:33,724 --> 00:17:35,884 to do that, then we make it very, 522 00:17:35,884 --> 00:17:38,125 very easy to do, and everything can come 523 00:17:38,125 --> 00:17:38,625 in, 524 00:17:39,484 --> 00:17:41,565 quite nicely. And and and it just and 525 00:17:41,565 --> 00:17:42,924 it just works a whole lot easier. You 526 00:17:42,924 --> 00:17:45,049 start getting access to that data. And so 527 00:17:45,049 --> 00:17:46,650 what we're starting to see is connections being 528 00:17:46,650 --> 00:17:49,210 made. You know, you talk about the the 529 00:17:49,210 --> 00:17:50,509 flattening of the 530 00:17:50,890 --> 00:17:52,029 traditional automation 531 00:17:52,490 --> 00:17:55,289 hierarchy where now not only is that IO 532 00:17:55,289 --> 00:17:57,505 block or that sensor connected to a to 533 00:17:57,505 --> 00:17:59,825 a PLC, but it's got some extra data. 534 00:17:59,825 --> 00:18:01,744 Like you said, like, this little photo I 535 00:18:01,744 --> 00:18:04,484 might have a a a temperature or 536 00:18:05,184 --> 00:18:05,765 a a moisture, 537 00:18:07,664 --> 00:18:09,359 you know, sensor also in there, 538 00:18:10,079 --> 00:18:11,859 just because it's part of the the chipset. 539 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:14,960 But the PLC don't care about that. He 540 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:16,319 just wants to know about the, you know, 541 00:18:16,319 --> 00:18:18,079 the information from the photo eye. So what 542 00:18:18,079 --> 00:18:19,220 do you do with all this 543 00:18:19,519 --> 00:18:21,140 extra beautiful information 544 00:18:21,615 --> 00:18:24,015 that isn't necessarily processed data? Well, maybe the 545 00:18:24,015 --> 00:18:25,615 MES wants to know about that. So how 546 00:18:25,615 --> 00:18:27,615 do you get that? And in a running 547 00:18:27,615 --> 00:18:29,615 factory, in a brownfield environment, rule number one 548 00:18:29,615 --> 00:18:30,115 is 549 00:18:30,815 --> 00:18:32,355 don't touch the running PLC. 550 00:18:32,894 --> 00:18:33,394 Yeah. 551 00:18:33,775 --> 00:18:35,315 And rule number two is 552 00:18:35,789 --> 00:18:37,250 see rule number one. 553 00:18:38,910 --> 00:18:40,670 That thing is running, and any minute of 554 00:18:40,670 --> 00:18:42,430 downtime costs more than any one thing on 555 00:18:42,430 --> 00:18:43,730 the on the factory floor. 556 00:18:44,190 --> 00:18:45,710 Before we go on, I did wanna break 557 00:18:45,710 --> 00:18:46,830 in here and tell you a little bit 558 00:18:46,830 --> 00:18:48,910 about my website, theautomationschool.com, 559 00:18:48,910 --> 00:18:50,670 where I do my online training. I also 560 00:18:50,670 --> 00:18:52,644 do in person training. And you probably don't 561 00:18:52,644 --> 00:18:54,964 know that that all started back in 2014 562 00:18:54,964 --> 00:18:57,285 with a Kickstarter I ran for my first 563 00:18:57,285 --> 00:18:59,285 PLC basics course. At the time, it was 564 00:18:59,285 --> 00:19:00,505 called microprogrammable 565 00:19:01,125 --> 00:19:01,625 controller 566 00:19:02,005 --> 00:19:03,605 basics, and I ended up changing it just 567 00:19:03,605 --> 00:19:05,960 the PLC basics. But in any case, 568 00:19:06,339 --> 00:19:09,319 since then, I've had added a dozen courses 569 00:19:09,779 --> 00:19:11,859 on a various number of topics, and you'll 570 00:19:11,859 --> 00:19:13,779 find them all at the automationschool.com. 571 00:19:13,779 --> 00:19:15,140 But what I really wanted to talk to 572 00:19:15,140 --> 00:19:16,500 you about is why. Why did I do 573 00:19:16,500 --> 00:19:18,554 that? Well, I had spent twenty five years 574 00:19:18,554 --> 00:19:21,755 as a certified authorized Rockwell Automation distributor specialist 575 00:19:21,755 --> 00:19:24,015 covering PLCs, HMIs, SCADA, MES, 576 00:19:24,714 --> 00:19:27,115 and other stuff too. Right? And I knew 577 00:19:27,115 --> 00:19:27,855 from visiting, 578 00:19:28,394 --> 00:19:31,194 customers in the plant every single workday, almost 579 00:19:31,194 --> 00:19:31,934 every workday, 580 00:19:32,859 --> 00:19:35,119 that there was a real need for affordable 581 00:19:35,259 --> 00:19:37,259 training. So the first thing is, you know, 582 00:19:37,259 --> 00:19:39,359 large companies have large expensive, 583 00:19:39,660 --> 00:19:40,559 large paychecks, 584 00:19:40,859 --> 00:19:43,099 and lots of overhead, so they gotta charge 585 00:19:43,099 --> 00:19:44,960 a lot. Right? And so 586 00:19:45,315 --> 00:19:46,755 that was a problem because a lot of 587 00:19:46,755 --> 00:19:48,194 the people I was working with, you know, 588 00:19:48,194 --> 00:19:51,095 the controls engineers, automation engineers, high end electricians 589 00:19:51,154 --> 00:19:51,815 and technicians, 590 00:19:52,674 --> 00:19:54,755 they had to fund their training themselves. Their 591 00:19:54,755 --> 00:19:56,274 company was sort of like, no. We trained 592 00:19:56,274 --> 00:19:58,319 this guy back in the nineties, and then 593 00:19:58,319 --> 00:19:59,519 he will have to get a better job. 594 00:19:59,519 --> 00:20:01,519 So we're not spending money on training. And 595 00:20:01,519 --> 00:20:02,960 so all these people were having to train 596 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:04,500 themselves, and it was unaffordable 597 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:05,940 to either, 598 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:09,299 you know, buy the the, vendors courses. 599 00:20:09,845 --> 00:20:11,605 Or even if the the company did have 600 00:20:11,605 --> 00:20:14,265 training dollars, it was unaffordable to send them 601 00:20:14,325 --> 00:20:16,404 away for a week to a $3,000 602 00:20:16,404 --> 00:20:19,845 course somewhere halfway across the country, probably $3,000 603 00:20:19,845 --> 00:20:21,684 worth of travel and hotels too. Right? And 604 00:20:21,684 --> 00:20:23,285 then they go where without one of their 605 00:20:23,285 --> 00:20:25,470 smartest guys, right, one of their best people, 606 00:20:25,549 --> 00:20:27,470 because you you that's usually who you're gonna 607 00:20:27,470 --> 00:20:29,789 train and and uplift through the through the 608 00:20:29,789 --> 00:20:31,710 organization. Either people are doing good on the 609 00:20:31,710 --> 00:20:33,309 lower level, you wanna bring them up and 610 00:20:33,309 --> 00:20:34,369 train them on automation. 611 00:20:34,829 --> 00:20:35,569 And so 612 00:20:36,269 --> 00:20:39,484 that's why I started the the, automationschool.com 613 00:20:39,484 --> 00:20:41,644 because of the the try to provide I 614 00:20:41,644 --> 00:20:43,724 knew the the courses would never be Hollywood 615 00:20:43,724 --> 00:20:46,444 quality. I mean, this isn't Hollywood quality. Right? 616 00:20:46,444 --> 00:20:48,204 But I knew it could be helpful and 617 00:20:48,204 --> 00:20:49,664 and, you know, be affordable 618 00:20:50,045 --> 00:20:52,140 by just filming them in my garage. Right? 619 00:20:52,220 --> 00:20:54,079 And, you know, picking up some used equipment 620 00:20:54,220 --> 00:20:56,380 and putting together the episodes. And the site 621 00:20:56,380 --> 00:20:58,640 has grown so much. We have thousands of, 622 00:20:59,099 --> 00:21:01,420 students from over a 150 countries. We have 623 00:21:01,420 --> 00:21:04,220 hundreds of, vendors we work with. But the 624 00:21:04,220 --> 00:21:06,220 other thing I did is, is made up 625 00:21:06,220 --> 00:21:08,605 by one's own forever. Right? So more like 626 00:21:08,605 --> 00:21:10,684 an ebook or an audiobook or an m 627 00:21:10,684 --> 00:21:12,444 p three album. Right? And the reason I 628 00:21:12,444 --> 00:21:14,204 did that and I understand why the vendors 629 00:21:14,204 --> 00:21:15,964 don't do that because they're like, well, they'll 630 00:21:15,964 --> 00:21:17,565 sign up one guy in the I and 631 00:21:17,565 --> 00:21:19,724 e shop, and he'll share his password for 632 00:21:19,724 --> 00:21:20,224 everybody. 633 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,480 You know, that could happen. Right? People could 634 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:24,400 rob a bank too. But I'm like, you 635 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:25,460 know, most people, 636 00:21:25,839 --> 00:21:27,279 when they buy a course and I saw 637 00:21:27,279 --> 00:21:29,359 this. I was on an independent platform for 638 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,359 a while, and on that platform, they showed 639 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,440 you how the progress of every student. Most 640 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:35,440 people buy the course well before they're ready 641 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:36,674 to take it. And I'm like, I'm not 642 00:21:36,674 --> 00:21:39,075 gonna charge people a monthly fee or only 643 00:21:39,075 --> 00:21:41,255 give them access to to a short window 644 00:21:41,554 --> 00:21:43,234 if, you know, they have good intentions now, 645 00:21:43,234 --> 00:21:44,674 but it takes them a while to actually 646 00:21:44,674 --> 00:21:45,654 free up their schedule 647 00:21:46,034 --> 00:21:47,554 to get into the course and take it. 648 00:21:47,554 --> 00:21:49,154 So that's why my courses are buy one's 649 00:21:49,154 --> 00:21:51,130 own forever. And it can you know, as 650 00:21:51,130 --> 00:21:52,650 they grow, the price goes up because I'm 651 00:21:52,650 --> 00:21:54,250 adding more and more content, and I do 652 00:21:54,250 --> 00:21:56,170 split them out and make cheaper versions over 653 00:21:56,170 --> 00:21:58,490 time. But, those people who buy in early, 654 00:21:58,490 --> 00:22:00,250 they get the like, my s seven course. 655 00:22:00,250 --> 00:22:01,849 Like, I think it originally came out at 656 00:22:01,849 --> 00:22:03,849 40 or $50, and now it's $200 because 657 00:22:03,849 --> 00:22:05,130 I've added so much to it over the 658 00:22:05,130 --> 00:22:07,384 years. But in any case, same with ControlLogix 659 00:22:07,524 --> 00:22:08,264 and CompactLogix. 660 00:22:09,524 --> 00:22:10,804 And then the other thing too is I 661 00:22:10,804 --> 00:22:11,764 want them to be able to take it 662 00:22:11,764 --> 00:22:13,125 more than once. Right? So if you take 663 00:22:13,125 --> 00:22:15,125 a let's say you take a ControlLogix course. 664 00:22:15,125 --> 00:22:16,804 Right? You don't use it for a couple 665 00:22:16,804 --> 00:22:18,565 years, you probably gonna have to take it 666 00:22:18,565 --> 00:22:20,609 again. And I don't want you to feel 667 00:22:20,609 --> 00:22:22,130 like you have to pay a monthly fee 668 00:22:22,130 --> 00:22:23,809 to do that. It's like an ebook or 669 00:22:23,809 --> 00:22:25,809 an m p three album. You bought it. 670 00:22:25,809 --> 00:22:27,329 You bought access to it, I guess I 671 00:22:27,329 --> 00:22:29,490 should say, and now it's yours. Right? And 672 00:22:29,490 --> 00:22:31,170 the other thing too is I support my 673 00:22:31,170 --> 00:22:34,144 students personally. Okay? So I check the website 674 00:22:34,144 --> 00:22:35,984 every day for questions, every work day. I 675 00:22:35,984 --> 00:22:37,825 should say, you know, I do take Sundays 676 00:22:37,825 --> 00:22:39,664 off. So in any case, if you're if 677 00:22:39,664 --> 00:22:41,505 it's a work day, though, and I'm working, 678 00:22:41,505 --> 00:22:43,424 I'm not on vacation or traveling for business, 679 00:22:43,424 --> 00:22:45,265 I'm up there. I'm answering questions. And I 680 00:22:45,265 --> 00:22:47,184 should say, even when I'm traveling on business, 681 00:22:47,184 --> 00:22:49,789 I'm I'm on there answering questions. So although 682 00:22:49,789 --> 00:22:51,070 if I don't have any hardware, there's some 683 00:22:51,070 --> 00:22:52,450 questions you can't ask. Right? 684 00:22:52,990 --> 00:22:54,350 I guess I should have said some questions 685 00:22:54,350 --> 00:22:56,509 you can't answer. But in any case, I 686 00:22:56,509 --> 00:22:59,490 just wanted to share that with you. Theautomationschool.com, 687 00:22:59,710 --> 00:23:00,529 a high quality 688 00:23:00,830 --> 00:23:01,809 online courses, 689 00:23:02,265 --> 00:23:05,305 five star rated, buy once, own forever, and 690 00:23:05,305 --> 00:23:07,865 guess what? I'm updating all the PLC courses, 691 00:23:07,865 --> 00:23:10,025 and if you already own or buy one 692 00:23:10,025 --> 00:23:11,865 of the existing PLC courses, you not only 693 00:23:11,865 --> 00:23:13,705 get the updated lessons that get added to 694 00:23:13,705 --> 00:23:15,865 that course, you get the new course completely 695 00:23:15,865 --> 00:23:17,940 free. So I'm not gonna charge you for 696 00:23:17,940 --> 00:23:20,980 just an updated version of a class on 697 00:23:20,980 --> 00:23:22,740 the same core on the same product. Right? 698 00:23:22,740 --> 00:23:24,420 That would be kinda silly in my opinion. 699 00:23:24,420 --> 00:23:26,820 So, I hope you guys appreciate that. Again, 700 00:23:26,820 --> 00:23:28,019 if you didn't know any of this, if 701 00:23:28,019 --> 00:23:29,299 you have any questions, if you go over 702 00:23:29,299 --> 00:23:30,974 to the automationschool.com, 703 00:23:31,054 --> 00:23:32,414 at the very top of the site, you'll 704 00:23:32,414 --> 00:23:34,174 see links to contact me, set up a 705 00:23:34,174 --> 00:23:36,335 meeting, leave me a voice mail, fill out 706 00:23:36,335 --> 00:23:38,174 a form. You know, I have many ways 707 00:23:38,174 --> 00:23:39,615 you can get in touch with me. And 708 00:23:39,615 --> 00:23:41,454 if you have multiple people you wanna sign 709 00:23:41,454 --> 00:23:43,535 up, I do have multiple seat discounts starting 710 00:23:43,535 --> 00:23:44,434 at three seats. 711 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:45,480 And, 712 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:47,480 I do actually work with a number of 713 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,720 Fortune 500 companies who, you know, enroll maybe 714 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,160 10 people at a time to get that 715 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:51,660 discount. 716 00:23:52,039 --> 00:23:54,119 And you know what? Unlike the big vendors, 717 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:55,799 if somebody you sign somebody up and they 718 00:23:55,799 --> 00:23:56,859 all take the courses, 719 00:23:57,464 --> 00:23:59,304 I'll let you replace that person for free 720 00:23:59,304 --> 00:24:01,144 of charge. You don't have to pay anything 721 00:24:01,144 --> 00:24:03,065 extra. If you sign up Joe and he 722 00:24:03,065 --> 00:24:04,744 decides to quit or leave or not to 723 00:24:04,744 --> 00:24:05,244 learn, 724 00:24:05,545 --> 00:24:07,304 you can put Bob in his place. That's 725 00:24:07,304 --> 00:24:09,224 not a problem. Now I have said some 726 00:24:09,224 --> 00:24:11,704 situations where the same spot kept getting replaced 727 00:24:11,704 --> 00:24:13,559 or replaced or replaced. At some point, I 728 00:24:13,559 --> 00:24:15,480 do charge a maintenance fee to to switch 729 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,640 the names out. And then, hey. Look. If 730 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,480 Joe leaves and he took, you know, two 731 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,179 out of three courses, I'll prorate 732 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,720 refilling that seat with the new person. Right? 733 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,025 So whatever percentage of the lessons he took 734 00:24:26,184 --> 00:24:28,345 versus the total number of lessons, I'll prorate 735 00:24:28,345 --> 00:24:30,025 it. So, you know, we've had number of 736 00:24:30,025 --> 00:24:31,545 cases where somebody goes through half of the 737 00:24:31,545 --> 00:24:34,345 content then leaves, so we can reset that 738 00:24:34,345 --> 00:24:36,664 seat for half price. And I that's something 739 00:24:36,664 --> 00:24:37,384 you won't find, 740 00:24:37,785 --> 00:24:40,140 any major vendors doing as well. So if 741 00:24:40,140 --> 00:24:41,820 you have any questions about that, reach out 742 00:24:41,820 --> 00:24:43,259 to me over at the automation school dot 743 00:24:43,259 --> 00:24:44,859 com. And with that said, let's jump right 744 00:24:44,859 --> 00:24:45,599 back into 745 00:24:46,059 --> 00:24:48,400 this week's episode of the automation podcast. 746 00:24:48,779 --> 00:24:49,599 In a brownfield 747 00:24:50,460 --> 00:24:53,180 installation, what we're seeing these these cool little 748 00:24:53,180 --> 00:24:54,000 edge gateways, 749 00:24:54,924 --> 00:24:56,445 And what they'll do is they'll grab the 750 00:24:56,445 --> 00:24:56,945 bus, 751 00:24:57,484 --> 00:24:59,164 they'll collect some data, and pump it out 752 00:24:59,164 --> 00:25:01,005 the other side via, you know, maybe an 753 00:25:01,005 --> 00:25:03,644 IT protocol that that the IT guys wanna 754 00:25:03,644 --> 00:25:05,265 know about or, you know, like an MQTT 755 00:25:05,404 --> 00:25:06,599 or an OPC UA. 756 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:08,919 Of course, in a in a greenfield, in 757 00:25:08,919 --> 00:25:10,440 a new installation where you've got a brand 758 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:11,179 new PLC, 759 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,160 yeah, get the data there. That guy has 760 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:14,839 all the brains, has all the all the 761 00:25:14,839 --> 00:25:16,519 information in one ply in all in one 762 00:25:16,519 --> 00:25:18,359 place, so get it from the PLC. But 763 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:18,940 in Brownfield, 764 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:20,940 I the edge gateways, 765 00:25:21,424 --> 00:25:23,365 even some IO Link masters 766 00:25:24,065 --> 00:25:24,804 are being 767 00:25:25,184 --> 00:25:27,345 put on the market that have not only 768 00:25:27,345 --> 00:25:28,565 an industrial Ethernet 769 00:25:29,105 --> 00:25:30,785 interface, you know, just on one port, on 770 00:25:30,785 --> 00:25:33,924 the same port, industrial Ethernet interface for control, 771 00:25:34,180 --> 00:25:36,420 but that interface will also speak like a 772 00:25:36,420 --> 00:25:39,059 higher level IT protocol like an MQTT or 773 00:25:39,059 --> 00:25:40,580 an OPC UA, so you can get it 774 00:25:40,580 --> 00:25:42,580 even from the IO Link master that data 775 00:25:42,580 --> 00:25:45,059 is is accessible. So the different ways to 776 00:25:45,059 --> 00:25:45,640 get it, 777 00:25:46,974 --> 00:25:48,734 and, and that's kind of the whole point 778 00:25:48,734 --> 00:25:50,654 is is getting that data from the sensors 779 00:25:50,654 --> 00:25:52,335 to the to the master and then further 780 00:25:52,335 --> 00:25:52,835 upwards. 781 00:25:53,375 --> 00:25:55,534 We actually covered a product on the show 782 00:25:55,534 --> 00:25:56,034 that 783 00:25:56,335 --> 00:25:58,734 had two ports. It had one for your 784 00:25:58,734 --> 00:26:01,134 fieldbus Yeah. And then it had a separate 785 00:26:01,134 --> 00:26:04,089 one for your IT or your IOT or 786 00:26:04,089 --> 00:26:04,910 your MQTT, 787 00:26:05,609 --> 00:26:07,609 which I thought was so inventive too because 788 00:26:07,609 --> 00:26:10,009 now the control system gets its data, and 789 00:26:10,009 --> 00:26:12,349 it's under control. But reporting wise, 790 00:26:12,730 --> 00:26:14,009 you know, that's kind of the best of 791 00:26:14,009 --> 00:26:15,375 both both worlds. You don't have to have 792 00:26:15,375 --> 00:26:17,134 two sensors. You can send it to data 793 00:26:17,134 --> 00:26:17,875 both ways. 794 00:26:18,414 --> 00:26:20,494 And, yeah, just it's the way you can 795 00:26:20,494 --> 00:26:22,575 do with these things and, you know, a 796 00:26:22,575 --> 00:26:24,335 lot of the sensors you probably have out 797 00:26:24,335 --> 00:26:26,654 there, I've noticed that some vendors, every sensor 798 00:26:26,654 --> 00:26:28,750 they sell is IO Link. So Yeah. You 799 00:26:28,750 --> 00:26:30,910 may already have it installed and not know 800 00:26:30,910 --> 00:26:32,829 it because the price difference to add it 801 00:26:32,829 --> 00:26:33,730 to some products. 802 00:26:34,109 --> 00:26:35,869 Once you get up to the fanciest sensors, 803 00:26:35,869 --> 00:26:38,190 of course, not the simplest sensors, but once 804 00:26:38,190 --> 00:26:39,950 you get up to the fanciest sensors, it's 805 00:26:39,950 --> 00:26:41,809 it's, you know, there's a lot of horsepower 806 00:26:41,869 --> 00:26:43,664 in that chipset. So, you know, they can 807 00:26:43,664 --> 00:26:45,745 add IO Link for for pennies on the 808 00:26:45,745 --> 00:26:48,164 dollar. So very interesting stuff, though. 809 00:26:48,545 --> 00:26:50,065 Yeah. That's that's a good point. And and, 810 00:26:50,065 --> 00:26:51,904 you know, of course, we could spend all 811 00:26:51,904 --> 00:26:53,765 day talking about IT, OT, 812 00:26:54,144 --> 00:26:56,670 and the segmentation of networks and all who's 813 00:26:56,670 --> 00:26:58,590 who owns the IP addresses. And we I 814 00:26:58,590 --> 00:27:00,670 mean, that's a whole separate topic. But in 815 00:27:00,670 --> 00:27:01,950 cases like that, yeah, it's cool. You got 816 00:27:01,950 --> 00:27:02,850 a separate port. 817 00:27:03,230 --> 00:27:04,590 IT can do what they want on their 818 00:27:04,590 --> 00:27:06,750 one port. And if but, hey, don't touch 819 00:27:06,750 --> 00:27:09,710 me in the control realm because Mhmm. This 820 00:27:09,710 --> 00:27:11,090 is my this is my realm. 821 00:27:12,375 --> 00:27:13,735 And and you bring up another good point, 822 00:27:13,735 --> 00:27:15,335 and that's kind of there's a I don't 823 00:27:15,335 --> 00:27:16,535 I don't wanna say that, you know, there's 824 00:27:16,615 --> 00:27:18,855 there isn't, like, a thick black line between, 825 00:27:18,855 --> 00:27:19,914 okay, this sensor 826 00:27:20,455 --> 00:27:23,575 is simple, therefore, should have IO link, or 827 00:27:23,575 --> 00:27:23,940 this 828 00:27:24,419 --> 00:27:26,759 sensor is complex, therefore, should have its own 829 00:27:27,059 --> 00:27:28,039 industrial Ethernet, 830 00:27:28,899 --> 00:27:30,899 interface. There's almost a little bit of a 831 00:27:30,899 --> 00:27:32,819 gray area, but you're right. I mean Mhmm. 832 00:27:33,940 --> 00:27:35,379 We kinda leave it up to the vendors 833 00:27:35,379 --> 00:27:36,519 to decide. Hey. 834 00:27:36,819 --> 00:27:38,359 My thing needs the horsepower 835 00:27:39,220 --> 00:27:41,484 that and it's so complex that I need 836 00:27:41,484 --> 00:27:43,724 something like, like, an industrial Ethernet protocol. But, 837 00:27:43,724 --> 00:27:45,884 oh, you know what? This other central line 838 00:27:45,884 --> 00:27:47,805 is tailored for low cost, and so, therefore, 839 00:27:47,805 --> 00:27:49,085 I'm gonna put IO Link on it. But 840 00:27:49,085 --> 00:27:50,605 that's, you know, that's up to them to 841 00:27:50,605 --> 00:27:51,345 to decide. 842 00:27:51,884 --> 00:27:53,484 So when we talk about IO Link in 843 00:27:53,484 --> 00:27:54,305 terms of benefits, 844 00:27:54,869 --> 00:27:56,950 we kinda like to make the analogy with 845 00:27:56,950 --> 00:27:57,450 USB 846 00:27:57,829 --> 00:28:00,470 because everybody knows USB. You got your USB 847 00:28:00,470 --> 00:28:02,470 cable. You plug it into your computer on 848 00:28:02,470 --> 00:28:03,829 one end. On the other end, you plug 849 00:28:03,829 --> 00:28:05,670 it into your you know, you plug your 850 00:28:05,670 --> 00:28:07,029 mouse in or you plug your keyboard in, 851 00:28:07,029 --> 00:28:09,015 and you plug your key your printer in. 852 00:28:10,055 --> 00:28:13,815 Automatically, it it uses the same cable. It's 853 00:28:13,815 --> 00:28:16,714 always the same. Everything everybody's using that interface, 854 00:28:17,015 --> 00:28:18,454 and we kinda see the same thing with 855 00:28:18,454 --> 00:28:21,195 IO Link where it's just a unified, unshielded 856 00:28:21,255 --> 00:28:23,279 three wire sensor cable, and it can use 857 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:24,019 be used 858 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:25,059 with all 859 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:26,820 IO Link devices. 860 00:28:27,360 --> 00:28:28,340 Up until now, 861 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:29,940 you know, if you had 862 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,039 smart devices, right, memory and computing power is 863 00:28:33,039 --> 00:28:35,120 smaller and cheaper. Up until now, to get 864 00:28:35,120 --> 00:28:35,620 that 865 00:28:35,954 --> 00:28:39,174 extra information out, you would need multiple cables. 866 00:28:39,315 --> 00:28:41,654 The wiring is time consuming. It's expensive. 867 00:28:42,835 --> 00:28:43,654 They're large, 868 00:28:43,954 --> 00:28:45,095 costly to 869 00:28:46,755 --> 00:28:48,134 to install and maintain. 870 00:28:48,914 --> 00:28:50,519 But But with iolink, you just you just 871 00:28:50,519 --> 00:28:51,960 plug it in. It's a simple m 12 872 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:52,460 plug, 873 00:28:52,839 --> 00:28:54,279 and then you don't have all these spare 874 00:28:54,279 --> 00:28:56,359 parts of different cable types. It's just one 875 00:28:56,359 --> 00:28:56,859 cable 876 00:28:57,399 --> 00:28:57,899 and, 877 00:28:58,519 --> 00:29:00,380 easy to maintain, thin, flexible. 878 00:29:00,759 --> 00:29:02,200 I've got a I've got an example here 879 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:03,825 I'd like to highlight, and I'll try and 880 00:29:03,984 --> 00:29:05,345 talk through it for those that are that 881 00:29:05,345 --> 00:29:07,444 are listening instead of instead of viewing. 882 00:29:07,825 --> 00:29:10,384 This is an example of 256 883 00:29:10,384 --> 00:29:12,005 IOs via 16 884 00:29:13,664 --> 00:29:14,164 fieldbus 885 00:29:14,544 --> 00:29:16,704 modules. So, like, fieldbus like remote IOs or 886 00:29:16,704 --> 00:29:18,384 whatever the case may be. So we're connecting 887 00:29:18,384 --> 00:29:20,650 them to a PLC out in the field. 888 00:29:20,650 --> 00:29:22,750 And to do that, we would need 16 889 00:29:23,769 --> 00:29:26,090 fieldbus modules in order to do that. These 890 00:29:26,090 --> 00:29:27,870 are just let's let's call them simple 891 00:29:28,890 --> 00:29:31,610 DI, you know, digital input proximity sensors. Mhmm. 892 00:29:31,610 --> 00:29:33,470 Mhmm. With IO Link, 893 00:29:34,615 --> 00:29:36,855 we can do that via just one fieldbus 894 00:29:36,855 --> 00:29:38,855 module. So that's just one IP address or 895 00:29:38,855 --> 00:29:39,355 one 896 00:29:40,134 --> 00:29:42,375 IO Link master. So already you're cutting out 897 00:29:42,375 --> 00:29:43,994 15 of those more expensive 898 00:29:44,454 --> 00:29:44,954 devices. 899 00:29:45,255 --> 00:29:46,855 And then we use what are called so 900 00:29:46,855 --> 00:29:48,474 called IO Link hubs, 901 00:29:49,559 --> 00:29:51,579 which bring those DI signals, 902 00:29:52,519 --> 00:29:54,279 put it all on one IO Link connection, 903 00:29:54,279 --> 00:29:55,799 put it into IO Link master, and send 904 00:29:55,799 --> 00:29:57,880 it out the other side. And with that, 905 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,919 we can connect if you imagine these 272 906 00:30:00,919 --> 00:30:01,419 IOs 907 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,815 as shown here via just one 908 00:30:04,275 --> 00:30:07,234 fieldbus module. So it's showing just huge, huge, 909 00:30:07,234 --> 00:30:07,734 huge 910 00:30:08,275 --> 00:30:10,615 savings simply on cost alone, 911 00:30:11,075 --> 00:30:11,974 due to the wiring. 912 00:30:12,595 --> 00:30:14,515 And, that that one cable, it fits all 913 00:30:14,515 --> 00:30:16,914 sensor types. So simple sensors, like a proximity 914 00:30:16,914 --> 00:30:18,269 sensor all the way up to 915 00:30:18,670 --> 00:30:20,609 complex devices like pressure, temperature, 916 00:30:22,269 --> 00:30:24,289 signal lamps, and even simple actuators 917 00:30:24,830 --> 00:30:27,089 all use the same IO Link cable. 918 00:30:27,549 --> 00:30:29,390 So where an IO Link device would be 919 00:30:29,390 --> 00:30:31,694 giving you not just on or off, but 920 00:30:31,774 --> 00:30:33,615 a lot of other information and some of 921 00:30:33,615 --> 00:30:34,835 that analog information. 922 00:30:35,694 --> 00:30:37,054 If all you had was a dumb device, 923 00:30:37,054 --> 00:30:38,734 well, now I can put 16 of them 924 00:30:38,734 --> 00:30:40,335 or so, you know, some number of them 925 00:30:40,335 --> 00:30:40,575 together 926 00:30:41,294 --> 00:30:43,454 Mhmm. Bring them into a hub. And each 927 00:30:43,615 --> 00:30:45,375 since each device only has an on or 928 00:30:45,375 --> 00:30:45,779 off, 929 00:30:46,340 --> 00:30:48,099 where a regular IO Link device would have 930 00:30:48,099 --> 00:30:49,940 lots of other information, you can now just 931 00:30:49,940 --> 00:30:51,539 join them all together and say, okay. Here 932 00:30:51,539 --> 00:30:53,640 we go. Here's inputs one through x. 933 00:30:54,099 --> 00:30:56,259 It's, almost like multiplexing, put it all together 934 00:30:56,259 --> 00:30:57,779 on one and then Mhmm. Pump it out 935 00:30:57,779 --> 00:30:59,720 the other side. Yeah. Perfect. 936 00:31:00,099 --> 00:31:02,634 The other way we relate IO Link to 937 00:31:02,634 --> 00:31:04,414 USB is kind of in the the identification 938 00:31:04,634 --> 00:31:05,375 and parameterization. 939 00:31:06,234 --> 00:31:07,375 So if we look at how you 940 00:31:07,755 --> 00:31:09,914 plug your printer into your computer, you plug 941 00:31:09,914 --> 00:31:12,634 it in, and automatically, your computer says, oh, 942 00:31:12,634 --> 00:31:14,494 okay. I know that that's a 943 00:31:15,599 --> 00:31:18,740 HP something something desk check printer and and 944 00:31:19,039 --> 00:31:20,720 okay. How do you wanna do you wanna 945 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,640 do color or black and white? Do you 946 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:23,380 wanna do 947 00:31:23,759 --> 00:31:25,299 full duplex? Do you wanna do 948 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,920 back and white, back and front on on 949 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:29,384 the printing? And the same is true for 950 00:31:29,865 --> 00:31:31,464 for IO Link. So you plug in that 951 00:31:31,464 --> 00:31:33,545 IO Link sensor into your IO Link master. 952 00:31:33,545 --> 00:31:35,464 It reads it. It says, hey. The dialing 953 00:31:35,464 --> 00:31:36,825 says, hey. This is who I am. This 954 00:31:36,825 --> 00:31:38,845 is my type. This is my serial number. 955 00:31:38,984 --> 00:31:40,744 Every device has a vendor ID and a 956 00:31:40,744 --> 00:31:41,644 device ID. 957 00:31:42,105 --> 00:31:43,945 And then the IO Link master goes up 958 00:31:43,945 --> 00:31:45,380 and gets the IODD 959 00:31:45,759 --> 00:31:46,960 file, and I'll show that here in a 960 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,640 little bit, and then you can start that 961 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,339 parametrization. And it's just like 962 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:52,980 it's just like a USB. It's it's, 963 00:31:53,599 --> 00:31:55,599 no special knowledge is required. You can format 964 00:31:55,599 --> 00:31:57,200 changes very, very easily. You can even do 965 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:58,640 them on the fly, for example, with an 966 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:00,180 HMI on the on the machine. 967 00:32:00,904 --> 00:32:02,444 And, the identification 968 00:32:03,224 --> 00:32:03,724 methods 969 00:32:04,184 --> 00:32:05,565 make sure that you don't 970 00:32:06,025 --> 00:32:08,265 plug in a wrong device into an IO 971 00:32:08,345 --> 00:32:09,404 Nialink port, 972 00:32:09,944 --> 00:32:11,325 which could stop the machine. 973 00:32:11,625 --> 00:32:14,204 It'll it'll it'll recognize that and prevent, 974 00:32:14,825 --> 00:32:15,804 incorrect connections. 975 00:32:17,119 --> 00:32:20,319 It allows you to exchange devices very easily 976 00:32:20,319 --> 00:32:22,480 of the same type or the the same 977 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:23,299 same manufacturer, 978 00:32:23,599 --> 00:32:24,819 same same device. 979 00:32:25,919 --> 00:32:27,759 So just like USB, it it it kinda 980 00:32:27,759 --> 00:32:29,085 works in that way. And then the other 981 00:32:29,085 --> 00:32:30,605 way, it's kind of like USBs in the 982 00:32:30,605 --> 00:32:32,684 diagnostics, and this is a really, really powerful 983 00:32:32,684 --> 00:32:35,085 part of IO Link. So when your printer 984 00:32:35,085 --> 00:32:36,605 says, I'm out of paper or I'm out 985 00:32:36,605 --> 00:32:38,444 of toner or there's a paper jam, it 986 00:32:38,444 --> 00:32:40,684 sends that signal, standardized signal to the to 987 00:32:40,684 --> 00:32:41,424 the computer, 988 00:32:42,110 --> 00:32:44,110 to your computer, your PC, and you know 989 00:32:44,110 --> 00:32:46,350 exactly what what to do, how to fix 990 00:32:46,350 --> 00:32:48,029 your your printer, why your printer isn't working 991 00:32:48,029 --> 00:32:49,150 the same as true for IO Link. We've 992 00:32:49,150 --> 00:32:50,529 standardized these diagnostics. 993 00:32:50,910 --> 00:32:53,549 So this is a, a photo eye saying, 994 00:32:53,549 --> 00:32:56,289 hey, under voltage or over temperature or 995 00:32:56,794 --> 00:32:58,815 the the window on the photo eye has 996 00:32:59,115 --> 00:33:01,454 gotten dirty, so signal quality is deteriorating. 997 00:33:02,234 --> 00:33:03,934 So we standardized all this, 998 00:33:04,234 --> 00:33:05,994 so that these diagnostics all come in the 999 00:33:05,994 --> 00:33:08,894 same way, and, you can, you know, 1000 00:33:09,275 --> 00:33:11,275 fix any any problem as fast as possible 1001 00:33:11,275 --> 00:33:12,680 to to to, 1002 00:33:13,460 --> 00:33:14,440 minimize downtime. 1003 00:33:14,900 --> 00:33:16,660 And in the case of things like signal 1004 00:33:16,660 --> 00:33:19,240 quality, hey. The the the window's getting dirty. 1005 00:33:19,380 --> 00:33:20,920 This enables things like 1006 00:33:21,860 --> 00:33:23,860 preventative maintenance. Oh, I know I'm going into 1007 00:33:23,860 --> 00:33:25,605 a planned shutdown next week. 1008 00:33:26,085 --> 00:33:27,285 Now's the time to go out and clean 1009 00:33:27,285 --> 00:33:28,585 those sensors kind of thing, 1010 00:33:28,884 --> 00:33:30,644 because I know that they're I know that 1011 00:33:30,644 --> 00:33:33,525 the signal's going is deteriorating. So some cool 1012 00:33:33,525 --> 00:33:34,345 things like that, 1013 00:33:34,724 --> 00:33:37,125 that wouldn't be possible with a traditional analog 1014 00:33:37,125 --> 00:33:39,525 signal, which we're showing here. And it also 1015 00:33:39,525 --> 00:33:40,505 makes really 1016 00:33:41,059 --> 00:33:43,539 no sense. I mean, in this example, what 1017 00:33:43,539 --> 00:33:45,380 we're showing here is a generic this is 1018 00:33:45,380 --> 00:33:47,380 a pre pressure sensor. You know, it does 1019 00:33:47,380 --> 00:33:48,119 its measurement. 1020 00:33:48,740 --> 00:33:50,660 It then does some amplification, and then to 1021 00:33:50,660 --> 00:33:52,179 stabilize the signal, it does an a to 1022 00:33:52,179 --> 00:33:53,880 d, puts it into a micro, 1023 00:33:54,285 --> 00:33:57,164 which does some temperature compensation linearization. But then, 1024 00:33:57,164 --> 00:33:57,664 traditionally, 1025 00:33:58,445 --> 00:33:59,884 prior to IO Link, what you do is 1026 00:33:59,884 --> 00:34:01,644 then do another data a to send it 1027 00:34:01,644 --> 00:34:02,384 out via 1028 00:34:02,845 --> 00:34:04,285 zero to 10 volts or four to 20 1029 00:34:04,285 --> 00:34:07,085 milliamps, whatever, into the into a, an a 1030 00:34:07,085 --> 00:34:07,710 to d 1031 00:34:08,269 --> 00:34:10,449 card on the backplane of the PLC, 1032 00:34:10,829 --> 00:34:12,670 I mean, this is just this is just 1033 00:34:12,670 --> 00:34:13,170 crazy. 1034 00:34:13,710 --> 00:34:15,969 It's it's time consuming. It's, 1035 00:34:16,589 --> 00:34:19,089 the the signal is still susceptible to interference. 1036 00:34:19,630 --> 00:34:21,614 The the analog inputs on the cards on 1037 00:34:21,614 --> 00:34:24,054 the PLC are expensive. There's manual calibration of 1038 00:34:24,054 --> 00:34:24,714 the signal. 1039 00:34:25,255 --> 00:34:26,614 But with IO Link, it just makes sense. 1040 00:34:26,614 --> 00:34:28,454 You take that signal right from the micro, 1041 00:34:28,454 --> 00:34:30,714 pump it out digitally via an IO Link 1042 00:34:30,934 --> 00:34:31,434 inexpensive 1043 00:34:31,815 --> 00:34:33,034 interface to your, 1044 00:34:33,860 --> 00:34:34,760 to your IO. 1045 00:34:35,219 --> 00:34:35,539 And, 1046 00:34:36,179 --> 00:34:37,800 we use that unshielded 1047 00:34:39,539 --> 00:34:41,480 three wire inexpensive cable, 1048 00:34:42,900 --> 00:34:44,900 and then you get all those parameters and 1049 00:34:44,900 --> 00:34:47,525 diagnostics. And, really, that's the point of using 1050 00:34:47,525 --> 00:34:49,525 IO Link is all that extra data, all 1051 00:34:49,525 --> 00:34:51,605 that extra information that that comes along with 1052 00:34:51,605 --> 00:34:52,905 the the process data. 1053 00:34:53,525 --> 00:34:54,885 Yeah. And so those of you who are 1054 00:34:54,885 --> 00:34:57,144 listening, I mean, what we saw there was 1055 00:34:58,005 --> 00:34:59,460 to to shoot out a four to 20 1056 00:34:59,460 --> 00:35:01,539 milliamp signal or zero to 10 volt signal, 1057 00:35:01,539 --> 00:35:03,539 it had to convert it from the digital 1058 00:35:03,539 --> 00:35:05,320 value that was inside the device 1059 00:35:05,780 --> 00:35:06,519 to analog, 1060 00:35:06,820 --> 00:35:08,019 then I have to pump it out. And, 1061 00:35:08,019 --> 00:35:09,780 you know, we always have to worry about 1062 00:35:09,780 --> 00:35:12,019 noise and, you know, shielding and all that, 1063 00:35:12,019 --> 00:35:13,380 you know, depending on the length of the 1064 00:35:13,380 --> 00:35:14,465 run. And then 1065 00:35:15,085 --> 00:35:17,885 in the PLC analog card, it's converting it 1066 00:35:17,885 --> 00:35:19,885 from analog back to digital, so you have 1067 00:35:19,885 --> 00:35:21,805 that zero to 32,000 1068 00:35:21,805 --> 00:35:23,485 value or zero to 64,000, 1069 00:35:23,485 --> 00:35:26,765 whatever your PLC does. And so IO Link 1070 00:35:26,765 --> 00:35:29,085 does eliminate that. It eliminates the noise of 1071 00:35:29,085 --> 00:35:30,900 your traditional analog. And I know I've met 1072 00:35:30,900 --> 00:35:32,500 so many customers say we have no noise 1073 00:35:32,500 --> 00:35:34,500 issues on our analog, and that's great. But 1074 00:35:34,500 --> 00:35:36,980 not everybody's in that same boat. So you're 1075 00:35:36,980 --> 00:35:38,579 eliminating that d to a and then a 1076 00:35:38,579 --> 00:35:40,739 to d, and that's that's you're keeping everything 1077 00:35:40,739 --> 00:35:43,264 digital. So you're not only getting a cleaner, 1078 00:35:43,324 --> 00:35:45,425 more accurate value from your device, 1079 00:35:45,885 --> 00:35:48,364 you're also getting all those additional pieces of 1080 00:35:48,364 --> 00:35:49,664 information and the ability 1081 00:35:50,125 --> 00:35:52,125 to be maybe configured to products. Some of 1082 00:35:52,125 --> 00:35:52,864 these products 1083 00:35:53,324 --> 00:35:55,164 need to be changed based on the type 1084 00:35:55,164 --> 00:35:57,489 of product they're sensing, you know, the type 1085 00:35:57,489 --> 00:35:59,489 of fluid going through, the recipe that's being 1086 00:35:59,489 --> 00:35:59,989 drawn, 1087 00:36:00,369 --> 00:36:02,849 the lighting, the colors. So all those different 1088 00:36:02,849 --> 00:36:03,349 things, 1089 00:36:03,730 --> 00:36:05,809 you you know, with a typical analog signal, 1090 00:36:05,809 --> 00:36:06,930 you're not gonna be able to send back 1091 00:36:06,930 --> 00:36:09,410 and do a configuration to it. So, go 1092 00:36:09,410 --> 00:36:10,994 ahead. Back to you, Michael. No. You're right. 1093 00:36:10,994 --> 00:36:12,994 Exactly. We we have I I took this 1094 00:36:12,994 --> 00:36:14,614 line out of this deck for the for, 1095 00:36:14,674 --> 00:36:17,234 you know, for for brevity, but we show 1096 00:36:17,234 --> 00:36:17,734 examples 1097 00:36:18,194 --> 00:36:20,994 of of particularly food and bev, right, where 1098 00:36:20,994 --> 00:36:23,315 you have batches, different I'm running a different 1099 00:36:23,315 --> 00:36:24,914 batch. I'm running a different product. I need 1100 00:36:24,914 --> 00:36:25,494 a different 1101 00:36:25,820 --> 00:36:28,059 label on the on the bottle or whatever 1102 00:36:28,059 --> 00:36:30,000 I'm running through the the the machine. 1103 00:36:30,940 --> 00:36:32,940 You reconfigure that via the HMI. It sends 1104 00:36:32,940 --> 00:36:34,219 all that stuff down to the sensors. Okay. 1105 00:36:34,219 --> 00:36:35,179 Now I know I'm looking for 1106 00:36:35,820 --> 00:36:37,760 I should be sensing this instead of this. 1107 00:36:38,285 --> 00:36:40,385 Yeah. It could be a clear bottle sensor, 1108 00:36:40,525 --> 00:36:41,825 the clear bottle detector 1109 00:36:42,204 --> 00:36:44,765 that the bottles change colors. So it's has 1110 00:36:44,765 --> 00:36:46,765 a different setting, or it could be background 1111 00:36:46,765 --> 00:36:48,785 suppression depending on the color of the product. 1112 00:36:48,844 --> 00:36:50,525 You need a different setting or a color 1113 00:36:50,525 --> 00:36:52,525 sensor. Maybe you're making different products and the 1114 00:36:52,525 --> 00:36:54,699 different colors, and so, you know, all this 1115 00:36:54,699 --> 00:36:55,680 is now configurable 1116 00:36:56,619 --> 00:36:58,860 through your PLC, through your control system, through 1117 00:36:58,860 --> 00:37:00,460 your HMI, which I just think is so 1118 00:37:00,460 --> 00:37:02,800 cool. Yeah. It's it's it's super cool. 1119 00:37:03,500 --> 00:37:05,420 Alright. Let's get a little bit technical here. 1120 00:37:05,420 --> 00:37:06,940 I think for some of the engineers, that 1121 00:37:06,940 --> 00:37:08,974 might be nice. The IO Link signal 1122 00:37:09,594 --> 00:37:11,534 and 24 volt power supply, 1123 00:37:11,835 --> 00:37:13,114 like like we talked about before, it's it's 1124 00:37:13,114 --> 00:37:15,434 an m 12 connector. So you've got five 1125 00:37:15,434 --> 00:37:15,934 pins. 1126 00:37:17,034 --> 00:37:19,034 Your pin one is your high, pin three 1127 00:37:19,034 --> 00:37:20,234 is your low, and then pin four is 1128 00:37:20,234 --> 00:37:21,994 your CQ line. That's that's where the IO 1129 00:37:21,994 --> 00:37:23,079 Link digital 1130 00:37:23,539 --> 00:37:24,119 signal lives. 1131 00:37:25,219 --> 00:37:28,039 It's serial. It's bidirectional. It's point to point. 1132 00:37:28,579 --> 00:37:30,679 And then we also have on that same 1133 00:37:30,980 --> 00:37:33,539 pin four, if you so desired, you could 1134 00:37:33,539 --> 00:37:34,039 also 1135 00:37:34,420 --> 00:37:36,420 parameterize your device via IO Link, set it 1136 00:37:36,420 --> 00:37:37,985 all up, and then put it in what's 1137 00:37:37,985 --> 00:37:40,224 known as a CO mode or simple IO 1138 00:37:40,224 --> 00:37:41,505 mode. And I'll show that on the next 1139 00:37:41,505 --> 00:37:43,265 slide too if maybe you've just got a 1140 00:37:43,265 --> 00:37:44,164 digital IO, 1141 00:37:44,625 --> 00:37:45,364 that you want 1142 00:37:45,905 --> 00:37:47,525 a fast switching interface. 1143 00:37:48,065 --> 00:37:48,885 So pins 1144 00:37:49,289 --> 00:37:51,849 one and three are our power. Pins two 1145 00:37:51,849 --> 00:37:53,230 and five are freely assignable. 1146 00:37:53,929 --> 00:37:55,449 So for example, if you wanted to use 1147 00:37:55,449 --> 00:37:57,610 that pin four for your IO Link signal 1148 00:37:57,610 --> 00:37:59,630 and then separately have your own 1149 00:38:00,090 --> 00:38:02,175 DI or DQ line, you could do that 1150 00:38:02,894 --> 00:38:05,135 using a three wire, four wire, five wire 1151 00:38:05,135 --> 00:38:07,054 cable. And then what's cool also in IO 1152 00:38:07,054 --> 00:38:08,494 Link and we're starting to see this more 1153 00:38:08,494 --> 00:38:09,074 and more 1154 00:38:09,535 --> 00:38:11,775 is we call this port class b, same 1155 00:38:11,775 --> 00:38:13,715 m 12 connector, same five pins, 1156 00:38:14,349 --> 00:38:16,829 but pins two and five provide a separate 1157 00:38:16,829 --> 00:38:17,730 power supply 1158 00:38:18,109 --> 00:38:19,730 for additional power because 1159 00:38:20,109 --> 00:38:21,869 and this is cool. We're starting to see 1160 00:38:21,869 --> 00:38:24,510 more and more IO link just, like, simple 1161 00:38:24,510 --> 00:38:25,010 actuators 1162 00:38:25,550 --> 00:38:26,530 Mhmm. On the market. 1163 00:38:27,305 --> 00:38:28,825 And that's really neat. So let's say you've 1164 00:38:28,825 --> 00:38:30,905 got some simple linear actuator, not not a 1165 00:38:30,905 --> 00:38:33,704 complex, you know, driver, you know, or motor 1166 00:38:33,704 --> 00:38:35,625 or something like that, but a a simple 1167 00:38:35,625 --> 00:38:36,445 linear actuator. 1168 00:38:36,744 --> 00:38:38,825 You can drive that via IO Link if 1169 00:38:38,825 --> 00:38:40,744 you just gotta move something really, you know, 1170 00:38:40,744 --> 00:38:43,150 maybe maybe even within connected to the same 1171 00:38:43,150 --> 00:38:43,650 ports, 1172 00:38:44,030 --> 00:38:45,630 on the master as some other sensors, and 1173 00:38:45,630 --> 00:38:46,750 so you can do that logic in the 1174 00:38:46,750 --> 00:38:48,909 master itself, you know, simple simple stuff like 1175 00:38:48,909 --> 00:38:49,409 that. 1176 00:38:49,869 --> 00:38:51,789 But that's also possible with IO Link where 1177 00:38:51,789 --> 00:38:52,769 you can drive it, 1178 00:38:53,390 --> 00:38:54,849 not just sense it, but also 1179 00:38:55,184 --> 00:38:57,344 actuate it with with IO Link. So that's 1180 00:38:57,344 --> 00:38:58,945 that's some cool stuff that's coming down the 1181 00:38:58,945 --> 00:38:59,445 line. 1182 00:39:00,224 --> 00:39:01,744 You know, and I found that all the 1183 00:39:01,744 --> 00:39:03,744 IO Link devices I had here, they came 1184 00:39:03,744 --> 00:39:06,625 with the SIO mode already set up. So 1185 00:39:06,625 --> 00:39:08,065 I was able to use the photo eyes 1186 00:39:08,065 --> 00:39:09,925 and the proxies and all the other devices 1187 00:39:10,309 --> 00:39:11,210 just as simple 1188 00:39:11,750 --> 00:39:14,389 IO devices and without even touching the IO 1189 00:39:14,389 --> 00:39:16,230 Link side of it, which I think is 1190 00:39:16,230 --> 00:39:18,469 cool because, you know, in in many cases, 1191 00:39:18,469 --> 00:39:20,389 you just need a photo eye to get 1192 00:39:20,389 --> 00:39:22,230 up and running. Right? Yeah. And that's and 1193 00:39:22,230 --> 00:39:23,269 that's how they come out of the box. 1194 00:39:23,269 --> 00:39:24,710 So out of the box, it's in that 1195 00:39:24,710 --> 00:39:25,635 CO mode. 1196 00:39:26,434 --> 00:39:28,034 And I think you you kinda touched on 1197 00:39:28,034 --> 00:39:30,514 this before. Maybe many customers have IO Link 1198 00:39:30,514 --> 00:39:32,514 devices Yeah. On their machine. They don't even 1199 00:39:32,514 --> 00:39:33,795 know it Mhmm. Because they took it out 1200 00:39:33,795 --> 00:39:34,994 of the box. They needed that photo. They 1201 00:39:34,994 --> 00:39:36,454 plugged it in and away they went. 1202 00:39:36,835 --> 00:39:38,195 But there's also that all all that extra 1203 00:39:38,195 --> 00:39:39,474 stuff. If they wanted to, they could get 1204 00:39:39,474 --> 00:39:41,010 down into the IO Link part of it. 1205 00:39:41,090 --> 00:39:44,130 Mhmm. Maybe to reparameterize it, or what if 1206 00:39:44,130 --> 00:39:44,949 you got to 1207 00:39:45,730 --> 00:39:46,050 change, 1208 00:39:46,530 --> 00:39:48,210 you still wanna use the CO mode. You 1209 00:39:48,210 --> 00:39:49,809 just want that digital input. What if you 1210 00:39:49,809 --> 00:39:52,130 wanna change the switching distance, for example, something 1211 00:39:52,130 --> 00:39:52,789 like that? 1212 00:39:53,170 --> 00:39:54,610 I don't want it to switch at one 1213 00:39:54,610 --> 00:39:55,889 meter. I want it to switch at two 1214 00:39:55,889 --> 00:39:57,094 meters or whatever. 1215 00:39:57,795 --> 00:39:59,394 So all that all that can be configured 1216 00:39:59,394 --> 00:40:00,534 via IO Link. 1217 00:40:01,474 --> 00:40:03,155 So on the if we if we talk 1218 00:40:03,155 --> 00:40:05,414 about the the IO Link communication itself, 1219 00:40:05,795 --> 00:40:08,355 there are three transmission speeds, comms one, two, 1220 00:40:08,355 --> 00:40:09,094 and three. 1221 00:40:09,635 --> 00:40:10,614 Comm one is 1222 00:40:11,210 --> 00:40:14,730 4.8 kilobits per second. COM two is 38.4 1223 00:40:14,730 --> 00:40:16,670 kilobits per second, and COM three 1224 00:40:16,969 --> 00:40:19,449 is 230.4 1225 00:40:19,449 --> 00:40:20,589 kilobits per second. 1226 00:40:21,769 --> 00:40:24,029 IO Link masters support all three 1227 00:40:24,329 --> 00:40:25,309 comm modes, 1228 00:40:25,655 --> 00:40:28,375 but devices are free to choose based on 1229 00:40:28,375 --> 00:40:30,855 what they're sending. If it's temperature, maybe you 1230 00:40:30,855 --> 00:40:33,014 don't need COM three because that's changing more 1231 00:40:33,014 --> 00:40:33,514 slowly 1232 00:40:33,894 --> 00:40:36,454 than something like like like we're talking about 1233 00:40:36,454 --> 00:40:37,894 a proximity sensor, which may want to send 1234 00:40:37,894 --> 00:40:39,900 that a little bit more quickly and uses 1235 00:40:39,900 --> 00:40:42,539 that that COM three mode. Many, many devices 1236 00:40:42,539 --> 00:40:44,780 use COM three mode because still two hundred 1237 00:40:44,780 --> 00:40:46,780 two hundred thirty kilobits per second, that's, you 1238 00:40:46,780 --> 00:40:48,460 know, that's not gonna that's not gonna kill 1239 00:40:48,460 --> 00:40:51,359 you. And then a typical cycle time, 1240 00:40:51,659 --> 00:40:52,780 because this is the question we get all 1241 00:40:52,780 --> 00:40:53,900 the time, is what kind of cycle time 1242 00:40:53,900 --> 00:40:56,465 can be achieved? It's about a millisecond at 1243 00:40:56,465 --> 00:40:59,025 at com three. So if you're, you know, 1244 00:40:59,025 --> 00:41:00,164 trying to go submillisecond, 1245 00:41:01,184 --> 00:41:02,625 you know, maybe IO Link is not is 1246 00:41:02,625 --> 00:41:04,405 not the solution at that point. 1247 00:41:04,704 --> 00:41:07,125 But for many, many applications, that one millisecond 1248 00:41:07,859 --> 00:41:08,599 cycle time 1249 00:41:09,059 --> 00:41:09,559 can 1250 00:41:10,019 --> 00:41:12,019 can, can accomplish whatever they need to. And 1251 00:41:12,019 --> 00:41:13,940 then what's cool is that from the EyeLink 1252 00:41:13,940 --> 00:41:14,839 master's perspective, 1253 00:41:15,619 --> 00:41:17,159 it'll have eight or 16 1254 00:41:17,460 --> 00:41:19,940 sensors connected to it. Each device can be 1255 00:41:19,940 --> 00:41:22,635 set independently. So on this port this device, 1256 00:41:22,635 --> 00:41:24,875 I'm talking at this comm rate and this 1257 00:41:24,875 --> 00:41:25,695 cycle time. 1258 00:41:26,394 --> 00:41:28,635 This other port number two, I'm speaking at 1259 00:41:28,635 --> 00:41:29,215 a different 1260 00:41:29,515 --> 00:41:31,434 transmission speed and a different cycle time and 1261 00:41:31,434 --> 00:41:32,494 so on and so forth, 1262 00:41:33,035 --> 00:41:35,355 you know, so that you're not sending data 1263 00:41:35,355 --> 00:41:35,855 unnecessarily 1264 00:41:36,235 --> 00:41:37,260 that is simply just 1265 00:41:38,619 --> 00:41:40,960 being sent for the purposes of being sent. 1266 00:41:41,500 --> 00:41:43,039 And that's and that's pretty cool. 1267 00:41:43,340 --> 00:41:45,579 And a lot of times, you don't because 1268 00:41:45,579 --> 00:41:47,679 you're not reading a digital on off, 1269 00:41:48,619 --> 00:41:50,940 you don't the speed, you're you're actually getting 1270 00:41:50,940 --> 00:41:52,300 a value, and that value 1271 00:41:53,304 --> 00:41:54,844 a lot of times your PLC 1272 00:41:55,304 --> 00:41:57,224 is not gonna be running faster than a 1273 00:41:57,224 --> 00:41:58,605 millisecond scan time. 1274 00:41:59,224 --> 00:42:01,244 So if you're getting your value updated, 1275 00:42:02,025 --> 00:42:03,644 you know, faster than the PLC, 1276 00:42:04,105 --> 00:42:06,505 then that's a then then that's really what 1277 00:42:06,505 --> 00:42:07,784 you need. Do you know how fast is 1278 00:42:07,784 --> 00:42:08,925 your PLC running? 1279 00:42:09,300 --> 00:42:11,619 How fast can your program controller use that 1280 00:42:11,619 --> 00:42:12,119 value? 1281 00:42:12,500 --> 00:42:14,019 And, you know, I'd be hard pressed to 1282 00:42:14,019 --> 00:42:15,940 see a lot of applications where they're breaking 1283 00:42:15,940 --> 00:42:18,180 that one millisecond update rate. The other thing 1284 00:42:18,180 --> 00:42:20,260 too is just because we're talking at the 1285 00:42:20,260 --> 00:42:22,280 speed doesn't mean the actual calculation 1286 00:42:22,739 --> 00:42:24,680 is even possible in a millisecond. 1287 00:42:25,454 --> 00:42:28,575 So, you know, temperature changes, things that that 1288 00:42:28,575 --> 00:42:31,715 sensors there's limit limitations to the physical world. 1289 00:42:31,855 --> 00:42:33,055 You know? And, you know, I I don't 1290 00:42:33,055 --> 00:42:34,414 know if anybody's ever said this to you 1291 00:42:34,414 --> 00:42:36,414 before, Michael, but when I first saw the 1292 00:42:36,414 --> 00:42:38,275 whole comm thing, I thought that was confusing 1293 00:42:38,335 --> 00:42:40,114 because having grown up with PCs, 1294 00:42:40,539 --> 00:42:42,859 I always thought of comp one, comp two, 1295 00:42:42,859 --> 00:42:45,019 comp one group. Right? And these are really 1296 00:42:45,019 --> 00:42:47,259 just bought what I would call from the 1297 00:42:47,259 --> 00:42:50,059 old days, sewer rates. Right? Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. 1298 00:42:50,219 --> 00:42:52,299 Insight why why they is it just maybe 1299 00:42:52,299 --> 00:42:55,039 because it was the standard started overseas or 1300 00:42:55,175 --> 00:42:56,954 any idea why they went with CALM? 1301 00:42:57,574 --> 00:42:59,175 I'm not gonna lie to you. That's the 1302 00:42:59,175 --> 00:43:01,734 first time I've gotten that question. Really? Okay. 1303 00:43:01,734 --> 00:43:03,514 Why they're called that yeah. 1304 00:43:03,974 --> 00:43:05,655 Let's just let's just rewrite this. They call 1305 00:43:05,655 --> 00:43:07,734 it BOD one, BOD two, BOD three. I 1306 00:43:07,734 --> 00:43:09,755 know. It's just so weird. But, anyways, 1307 00:43:10,139 --> 00:43:11,900 sorry sorry, audience. I just have That's a 1308 00:43:11,900 --> 00:43:13,420 good one. That's a good one. Nope. I'll 1309 00:43:13,420 --> 00:43:14,559 take that one back. 1310 00:43:17,500 --> 00:43:19,739 Alright. So IO Link data comes in a 1311 00:43:19,739 --> 00:43:20,880 couple different flavors. 1312 00:43:21,420 --> 00:43:23,260 You have your process data. That's your bread 1313 00:43:23,260 --> 00:43:24,699 and butter, what you're using to run the 1314 00:43:24,699 --> 00:43:25,519 run the factory. 1315 00:43:26,135 --> 00:43:26,714 Transmitted cyclically 1316 00:43:27,414 --> 00:43:28,315 in a Telegram, 1317 00:43:29,014 --> 00:43:29,514 the 1318 00:43:29,894 --> 00:43:32,214 the data size is defined by the device, 1319 00:43:32,214 --> 00:43:33,994 and it can be up to 32 1320 00:43:34,454 --> 00:43:34,954 bytes 1321 00:43:35,255 --> 00:43:37,835 for each device, both input and output. 1322 00:43:38,579 --> 00:43:41,000 Along with that comes a value 1323 00:43:41,380 --> 00:43:43,780 bit indicating whether the process data is valid 1324 00:43:43,780 --> 00:43:46,039 or invalid, and this can be transmitted 1325 00:43:46,340 --> 00:43:49,480 is transmitted cyclically with the the process data. 1326 00:43:50,434 --> 00:43:53,094 And then you have things that happen acyclically. 1327 00:43:53,635 --> 00:43:55,894 These would be device data like parameters, 1328 00:43:57,394 --> 00:43:59,734 identification data, diagnostic information, 1329 00:44:00,994 --> 00:44:03,480 and these happen on request of the IO 1330 00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,199 Link master. Obviously, a lot of that happens 1331 00:44:06,199 --> 00:44:07,179 during startup, 1332 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:09,579 but also can happen during runtime 1333 00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:11,640 if, as shown here on the slide with 1334 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:13,179 the with the last case, events 1335 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,579 can be error messages. So the 1336 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,460 the, the device will set a flag. 1337 00:44:18,815 --> 00:44:19,315 Hey. 1338 00:44:19,615 --> 00:44:22,515 There's a short circuit or so, and then 1339 00:44:22,974 --> 00:44:25,155 the the master can pull 1340 00:44:25,535 --> 00:44:28,914 that device for more information, more diagnostic information, 1341 00:44:29,855 --> 00:44:32,894 based on that event flag that's that's set 1342 00:44:32,894 --> 00:44:34,409 by the set by the device. 1343 00:44:35,210 --> 00:44:35,949 And so, 1344 00:44:36,969 --> 00:44:38,589 the the question we always get 1345 00:44:39,210 --> 00:44:40,809 at this point is, how do I make 1346 00:44:40,809 --> 00:44:42,429 this all work? How do I 1347 00:44:42,889 --> 00:44:44,889 integrate this stuff into my into my plant? 1348 00:44:44,889 --> 00:44:46,569 Before we go any further, I did wanna 1349 00:44:46,569 --> 00:44:48,574 jump back and tell you about a service 1350 00:44:48,574 --> 00:44:50,174 I'm doing that I don't think I've talked 1351 00:44:50,174 --> 00:44:51,234 about very much, 1352 00:44:52,094 --> 00:44:54,014 and it's comes in two different flavors. First 1353 00:44:54,014 --> 00:44:55,775 of all, I've actually had some vendors and 1354 00:44:55,775 --> 00:44:57,635 companies reach out to me and say, Sean, 1355 00:44:57,694 --> 00:44:59,295 I know you don't wanna travel all around 1356 00:44:59,295 --> 00:45:01,054 the country with all your equipment. Right? That's 1357 00:45:01,054 --> 00:45:02,429 not what you do, but we want you 1358 00:45:02,429 --> 00:45:03,949 to come out and teach us something. Would 1359 00:45:03,949 --> 00:45:05,789 you come out and do a lecture? We'll 1360 00:45:05,789 --> 00:45:06,929 set up our own equipment. 1361 00:45:07,309 --> 00:45:08,829 And, can you come out and just run 1362 00:45:08,829 --> 00:45:10,429 us through some of the products and teach 1363 00:45:10,429 --> 00:45:12,589 us some of your knowledge, and you don't 1364 00:45:12,589 --> 00:45:14,429 have to worry about bringing all the equipment 1365 00:45:14,429 --> 00:45:16,214 with you. And so that's something I really 1366 00:45:16,214 --> 00:45:17,654 don't talk about much, but I do wanna 1367 00:45:17,654 --> 00:45:19,574 tell you that if you're looking for training 1368 00:45:19,574 --> 00:45:21,414 and you need it on-site, of course, you 1369 00:45:21,414 --> 00:45:23,094 do have to pay for my travel time. 1370 00:45:23,094 --> 00:45:24,375 But if you do want me to come 1371 00:45:24,375 --> 00:45:25,894 out for a day or two days or 1372 00:45:25,894 --> 00:45:27,434 for a week and do training 1373 00:45:27,780 --> 00:45:29,380 on any of the products I train online 1374 00:45:29,380 --> 00:45:30,739 now. Now if you want me to come 1375 00:45:30,739 --> 00:45:32,019 out and do training on a product I 1376 00:45:32,019 --> 00:45:33,940 don't already have a curriculum on, I can't 1377 00:45:33,940 --> 00:45:36,179 do it. The building the curriculum is where 1378 00:45:36,179 --> 00:45:37,780 all of my costs is on the training. 1379 00:45:37,780 --> 00:45:40,019 Right? I shouldn't say that. The web service 1380 00:45:40,019 --> 00:45:41,860 in in in the back end does cost 1381 00:45:41,860 --> 00:45:44,154 something every month as well, but most of 1382 00:45:44,154 --> 00:45:46,394 the time it goes into and that's really 1383 00:45:46,394 --> 00:45:48,815 what being self employed is it's time. Right? 1384 00:45:48,875 --> 00:45:50,714 Most of the time goes into build building 1385 00:45:50,714 --> 00:45:52,875 the curriculum. So if you have a need 1386 00:45:52,875 --> 00:45:54,795 for somebody like Sean, we can't do a 1387 00:45:54,795 --> 00:45:57,030 webinar. We can't do a Teams meeting. We 1388 00:45:57,110 --> 00:45:59,030 we can't do online training. We want you 1389 00:45:59,030 --> 00:46:00,510 to come out. And, again, I just got 1390 00:46:00,510 --> 00:46:01,690 a call on this yesterday. 1391 00:46:02,230 --> 00:46:03,670 Yes. I can do that. As long as 1392 00:46:03,670 --> 00:46:05,349 the curriculum I'm gonna teach you is something 1393 00:46:05,349 --> 00:46:06,730 I already have existing. 1394 00:46:07,190 --> 00:46:09,429 And, I'm not gonna hand out lab books. 1395 00:46:09,429 --> 00:46:10,999 We can buy you lab books if you 1396 00:46:10,999 --> 00:46:13,045 want. People sell great lab books for $80.90 1397 00:46:13,045 --> 00:46:14,863 dollars a pop. If you want lab books, 1398 00:46:14,863 --> 00:46:16,682 I'd be more than happy to include that 1399 00:46:16,682 --> 00:46:18,728 in the quote. But in any case, I 1400 00:46:18,955 --> 00:46:20,773 that's one thing I do. The other thing 1401 00:46:20,773 --> 00:46:22,592 I've been doing with vendors is they've hired 1402 00:46:22,592 --> 00:46:24,411 me to come out and interview them at 1403 00:46:24,411 --> 00:46:26,360 their trade show. So, usually, what happens is 1404 00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,940 somebody will sponsor a podcast for $5.99. 1405 00:46:29,079 --> 00:46:31,000 They'll come on. We'll do the interview. I'll 1406 00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:32,760 edit it all up. I'll put their links 1407 00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,079 in. We'll talk about the thumbnail, and then 1408 00:46:35,079 --> 00:46:37,400 we'll release it ad free. Right? And so 1409 00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,900 that covers my cost of producing that episode 1410 00:46:40,074 --> 00:46:42,074 roughly. Right? We just raised it from $4.99 1411 00:46:42,074 --> 00:46:44,315 to $5.99 because most of the shows were 1412 00:46:44,315 --> 00:46:45,994 were actually upside down on, so we need 1413 00:46:45,994 --> 00:46:47,114 to raise it a little bit to make 1414 00:46:47,114 --> 00:46:49,114 sure we're covering our cost. But in any 1415 00:46:49,114 --> 00:46:52,474 case, sometimes vendors have, you know, they have 1416 00:46:52,474 --> 00:46:54,329 their own trade show, and they may have 1417 00:46:54,329 --> 00:46:56,170 all of their product specialists there. And they're 1418 00:46:56,170 --> 00:46:58,170 like, hey, Sean. We would like to do 1419 00:46:58,170 --> 00:47:00,430 six or seven interviews at the trade show. 1420 00:47:00,650 --> 00:47:02,730 Would you come out and actually record them 1421 00:47:02,730 --> 00:47:04,650 there? We'll pay your flight. We'll pay your 1422 00:47:04,650 --> 00:47:06,329 hotel and your expenses to get there and 1423 00:47:06,329 --> 00:47:08,015 back. And so that's another thing I haven't 1424 00:47:08,015 --> 00:47:09,614 talked about much that I'm doing. I'm working 1425 00:47:09,614 --> 00:47:12,095 with some, you know, top five vendors to 1426 00:47:12,095 --> 00:47:14,015 do that, and I've done it in the 1427 00:47:14,015 --> 00:47:15,695 past. And so I did wanna explain it 1428 00:47:15,695 --> 00:47:17,454 to you if you're a vendor listening or 1429 00:47:17,454 --> 00:47:18,095 if you are, 1430 00:47:18,575 --> 00:47:20,175 talking to your vendor, like, you should have 1431 00:47:20,175 --> 00:47:21,695 Sean come out and interview all your people. 1432 00:47:21,695 --> 00:47:23,269 You have them all in one place. Let 1433 00:47:23,269 --> 00:47:24,789 them know that they can contact me about 1434 00:47:24,789 --> 00:47:26,389 doing that. Again, you can contact me at 1435 00:47:26,389 --> 00:47:27,929 theautomationblog.com, 1436 00:47:28,070 --> 00:47:29,369 LinkedIn, YouTube, 1437 00:47:29,750 --> 00:47:31,109 theautomationschool.com, 1438 00:47:31,109 --> 00:47:32,630 pretty much any way you want. You can 1439 00:47:32,630 --> 00:47:34,329 write me snail mail if you want. 1440 00:47:34,630 --> 00:47:36,150 But in any case, I do wanna share 1441 00:47:36,150 --> 00:47:37,829 that, and we also have in person training. 1442 00:47:37,829 --> 00:47:39,324 I think I've talked to you guys about 1443 00:47:39,324 --> 00:47:41,164 this quite a bit. We do custom in 1444 00:47:41,164 --> 00:47:43,265 person training for as little as two people, 1445 00:47:43,485 --> 00:47:45,885 $900 a day up to four people. And 1446 00:47:45,885 --> 00:47:47,164 so if you wanna get some people in 1447 00:47:47,164 --> 00:47:49,005 here, we can actually do Allen Bradley and 1448 00:47:49,005 --> 00:47:50,844 Siemens in two days back to back. One 1449 00:47:50,844 --> 00:47:52,679 day Allen Bradley, one day Siemens. So if 1450 00:47:52,679 --> 00:47:54,139 you wanna learn two PLCs 1451 00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:55,800 in two days back to back now I 1452 00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:57,639 do have somebody ask me, hey, Sean. Where's 1453 00:47:57,639 --> 00:48:00,199 your schedule of upcoming courses? And back in 1454 00:48:00,199 --> 00:48:01,960 my previous life of twenty five years, we 1455 00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:03,639 were always trying to sign people up and 1456 00:48:03,639 --> 00:48:04,380 then canceling, 1457 00:48:05,599 --> 00:48:07,019 you know, events and classes 1458 00:48:07,565 --> 00:48:09,644 because, we wouldn't get enough people to meet 1459 00:48:09,644 --> 00:48:11,485 the vendors minimum. So I don't wanna do 1460 00:48:11,485 --> 00:48:13,485 that. So I don't have actually any dates 1461 00:48:13,485 --> 00:48:15,405 now. I have been talking with doing a 1462 00:48:15,405 --> 00:48:17,265 intensive POC boot camp, 1463 00:48:17,565 --> 00:48:19,244 but, you know, I just got so much 1464 00:48:19,244 --> 00:48:20,765 things going on in my life right now 1465 00:48:20,765 --> 00:48:22,289 that I don't think I could pull that 1466 00:48:22,289 --> 00:48:24,230 together this fall. But in any case, 1467 00:48:24,610 --> 00:48:26,530 if you need some training, you wanna send 1468 00:48:26,530 --> 00:48:28,369 your people here, we can even start at, 1469 00:48:28,369 --> 00:48:30,369 like, noontime and then end the final day 1470 00:48:30,369 --> 00:48:31,969 at noontime so you can get your flights 1471 00:48:31,969 --> 00:48:33,650 and travel and all that. We're one hour 1472 00:48:33,650 --> 00:48:35,894 away from Albany, New York, and that's a 1473 00:48:35,894 --> 00:48:37,414 great little airport to fly in and out 1474 00:48:37,414 --> 00:48:38,614 of. Actually, I'm flying out of it in 1475 00:48:38,614 --> 00:48:40,215 November. They'll go to a trade show, 1476 00:48:40,614 --> 00:48:43,015 to interview vendors, vendors, product people. But in 1477 00:48:43,015 --> 00:48:44,614 any case, I just wanna break in. There's 1478 00:48:44,614 --> 00:48:45,974 something about my company. I don't think I 1479 00:48:45,974 --> 00:48:47,735 ever talked to you guys about much, and 1480 00:48:47,735 --> 00:48:49,255 so I just wanted to insert it here 1481 00:48:49,255 --> 00:48:51,750 since I'm sponsoring this episode and eating the 1482 00:48:51,750 --> 00:48:53,670 cost to produce it. I wanted to share 1483 00:48:53,670 --> 00:48:54,809 that with you. And now, 1484 00:48:55,110 --> 00:48:56,630 I won't be back until the end of 1485 00:48:56,630 --> 00:48:58,309 the show, so please enjoy the rest of 1486 00:48:58,309 --> 00:49:00,390 this episode. Send any feedback you have to 1487 00:49:00,390 --> 00:49:02,869 me, and, we'll talk to you at the 1488 00:49:02,869 --> 00:49:03,690 end of the show. 1489 00:49:04,474 --> 00:49:05,835 And it kinda works like this. So you 1490 00:49:05,835 --> 00:49:06,574 have your 1491 00:49:07,034 --> 00:49:07,775 IO Link 1492 00:49:08,635 --> 00:49:11,914 device, which has an IODD file, which we 1493 00:49:11,914 --> 00:49:15,054 mentioned earlier, that gets ingested by a parameterization 1494 00:49:15,355 --> 00:49:17,054 tool. The parameterization tool 1495 00:49:17,539 --> 00:49:20,019 comes with the IO Link master. Could be 1496 00:49:20,019 --> 00:49:21,159 a separate piece of software. 1497 00:49:21,460 --> 00:49:22,280 In some cases, 1498 00:49:22,579 --> 00:49:24,359 could be a web page 1499 00:49:24,739 --> 00:49:27,380 built into the IO Link master itself. Depends 1500 00:49:27,380 --> 00:49:29,079 on depends on the vendor. 1501 00:49:29,735 --> 00:49:31,494 But then what happens after that, how that 1502 00:49:31,494 --> 00:49:34,054 data goes from the IO Link master to 1503 00:49:34,054 --> 00:49:34,875 the controller, 1504 00:49:35,175 --> 00:49:35,835 the PLC, 1505 00:49:36,855 --> 00:49:37,355 is 1506 00:49:37,735 --> 00:49:39,914 fieldbus specific. So you have your own, 1507 00:49:41,015 --> 00:49:41,515 fieldbus 1508 00:49:43,030 --> 00:49:45,670 file, you know, GSD or EDS or ESI, 1509 00:49:45,670 --> 00:49:47,510 whatever the case may be, which is ingested 1510 00:49:47,510 --> 00:49:49,109 by the engineering tool of the of the 1511 00:49:49,109 --> 00:49:50,949 PLC and kind of outside way outside the 1512 00:49:50,949 --> 00:49:52,730 scope of of of IO Link. 1513 00:49:53,429 --> 00:49:56,089 And so the EDS file, the GSD file, 1514 00:49:56,414 --> 00:49:58,574 and and that is the that data then 1515 00:49:58,574 --> 00:50:01,315 gets sent via fieldbus, and that's the sum 1516 00:50:01,695 --> 00:50:03,775 of all the IO Link device data from 1517 00:50:03,775 --> 00:50:06,114 all the ports on the IO Link 1518 00:50:06,574 --> 00:50:07,074 master, 1519 00:50:08,574 --> 00:50:10,355 where that IO Link communication 1520 00:50:11,054 --> 00:50:11,554 as 1521 00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:13,980 as defined by the IODD file, 1522 00:50:14,519 --> 00:50:16,760 configures the port for the master and for 1523 00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:19,339 the devices. And so an IODD file 1524 00:50:20,039 --> 00:50:22,679 is provided by the devices, and every device 1525 00:50:22,679 --> 00:50:25,500 manufacturer must provide an IODD for their device. 1526 00:50:26,555 --> 00:50:28,815 It can be downloaded from the IODD 1527 00:50:29,275 --> 00:50:30,735 finder, which is a website, 1528 00:50:31,755 --> 00:50:33,375 and, it it describes 1529 00:50:33,675 --> 00:50:35,835 what the entire device does. It describes the 1530 00:50:35,835 --> 00:50:38,095 process data length, the process data structure, 1531 00:50:39,079 --> 00:50:41,079 the parameter the name of the parameters, what 1532 00:50:41,079 --> 00:50:43,640 range to expect, the data types, the addresses 1533 00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:45,880 of the parameters in the in the in 1534 00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:47,260 the indexes and subindexes. 1535 00:50:48,119 --> 00:50:50,140 It can talk about GUI information, 1536 00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,420 pages on which a parameter shall be displayed, 1537 00:50:53,855 --> 00:50:55,614 names of parameter pages, all this kind of 1538 00:50:55,614 --> 00:50:57,214 stuff is in an IODD file. It's a 1539 00:50:57,214 --> 00:50:58,275 it's a zip file 1540 00:50:58,734 --> 00:51:00,434 where you have that IODD 1541 00:51:00,974 --> 00:51:03,855 as an XML. So that's how we format 1542 00:51:03,855 --> 00:51:06,014 the file. So it's it's both and this 1543 00:51:06,014 --> 00:51:08,650 is the key part, both machine readable and 1544 00:51:08,950 --> 00:51:10,630 and human readable. It's got a little picture 1545 00:51:10,630 --> 00:51:13,210 of the device, picture of the manufacturer logo. 1546 00:51:13,670 --> 00:51:15,050 And with your permission, 1547 00:51:15,430 --> 00:51:17,990 maybe I can show the IODD finder. It's, 1548 00:51:18,230 --> 00:51:22,164 ioddfinder.io-link.com. 1549 00:51:22,465 --> 00:51:22,965 Mhmm. 1550 00:51:23,824 --> 00:51:25,664 Looks simple enough. Let's say we wanna look 1551 00:51:25,664 --> 00:51:27,744 at a I'm gonna type in something here. 1552 00:51:27,744 --> 00:51:29,045 Max ref. 1553 00:51:30,144 --> 00:51:31,985 Let's pick this. So this is just a 1554 00:51:32,065 --> 00:51:33,445 this is a reference design, 1555 00:51:34,029 --> 00:51:36,429 not an actual product that that, an end 1556 00:51:36,429 --> 00:51:38,509 user would employ in their in their factory, 1557 00:51:38,509 --> 00:51:39,009 but 1558 00:51:39,309 --> 00:51:41,230 a reference design of something that maybe a 1559 00:51:41,230 --> 00:51:42,690 device manufacturer would use. 1560 00:51:43,309 --> 00:51:45,789 And it's shows the manufacturer name, the article 1561 00:51:45,789 --> 00:51:48,690 name number, the product name, the device ID. 1562 00:51:48,764 --> 00:51:49,664 All that stuff 1563 00:51:50,045 --> 00:51:53,005 is ingested by the parameterization tool, which then 1564 00:51:53,005 --> 00:51:54,605 uses that information to go up to this 1565 00:51:54,605 --> 00:51:55,744 IODD finder 1566 00:51:56,204 --> 00:51:57,824 and grab the IODD 1567 00:51:58,284 --> 00:52:00,684 file shown here, which can be downloaded if 1568 00:52:00,684 --> 00:52:02,519 you wanted to look at it yourself. But 1569 00:52:02,519 --> 00:52:04,119 in the past few years, we implemented what's 1570 00:52:04,119 --> 00:52:05,019 called an IODD 1571 00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:06,940 viewer, which is pretty cool, 1572 00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:10,199 which takes that nice XML file and parses 1573 00:52:10,199 --> 00:52:10,699 it. 1574 00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:13,739 So in human readable form, 1575 00:52:14,119 --> 00:52:15,500 if you wanted to compare 1576 00:52:15,965 --> 00:52:17,644 quickly, hey. I'm an end user. I wanna 1577 00:52:17,644 --> 00:52:18,144 compare 1578 00:52:19,244 --> 00:52:21,644 the IODD file from device vendor a to 1579 00:52:21,644 --> 00:52:23,405 device vendor b to kinda see what kind 1580 00:52:23,405 --> 00:52:25,244 of features they have. You could do that 1581 00:52:25,244 --> 00:52:26,144 all very easily, 1582 00:52:26,445 --> 00:52:28,784 and that's shown here in the IODD viewer. 1583 00:52:29,690 --> 00:52:32,269 What's really what's really neat about 1584 00:52:32,889 --> 00:52:34,269 this IODD finder 1585 00:52:34,889 --> 00:52:37,369 is that it has two ways it it 1586 00:52:37,369 --> 00:52:38,349 it gets accessed. 1587 00:52:39,049 --> 00:52:41,885 That's this website that I just showed here. 1588 00:52:42,184 --> 00:52:44,425 So as in humans are are accessing it, 1589 00:52:44,425 --> 00:52:45,244 but it's also 1590 00:52:45,704 --> 00:52:47,485 accessible via API. 1591 00:52:48,265 --> 00:52:50,664 And we we track the the traffic to 1592 00:52:50,664 --> 00:52:51,644 the Audi divider, 1593 00:52:52,025 --> 00:52:54,265 and the vast, vast majority of the traffic 1594 00:52:54,265 --> 00:52:56,284 comes via API. So these are 1595 00:52:56,869 --> 00:52:58,730 IO Link masters that 1596 00:52:59,030 --> 00:53:00,809 just had a device connected to them. 1597 00:53:01,430 --> 00:53:03,829 Parameter is I'm sorry. Parameterization tool that has 1598 00:53:03,829 --> 00:53:05,430 a you know, or connected to the IO 1599 00:53:05,430 --> 00:53:07,190 Link master that had device connected them. They 1600 00:53:07,190 --> 00:53:09,510 go up to the AudiD finder, and they 1601 00:53:09,510 --> 00:53:11,684 pull down that IODD file for the device 1602 00:53:11,684 --> 00:53:13,324 that was just connected so that now they 1603 00:53:13,324 --> 00:53:14,224 they can be, 1604 00:53:15,085 --> 00:53:15,585 configured. 1605 00:53:16,204 --> 00:53:18,125 And that's really, really cool stuff. So all 1606 00:53:18,125 --> 00:53:19,724 these IODD files are in one spot, in 1607 00:53:19,724 --> 00:53:20,464 one database 1608 00:53:20,925 --> 00:53:23,405 up there for for viewing or via the 1609 00:53:23,405 --> 00:53:25,025 IODD viewer or for access 1610 00:53:26,079 --> 00:53:27,760 from any number of IO Link tools out 1611 00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:28,260 there. 1612 00:53:29,359 --> 00:53:32,079 So when we're talking about API access, we're 1613 00:53:32,079 --> 00:53:35,059 talking about the tool we're using to configure 1614 00:53:35,119 --> 00:53:37,440 the master. So it could be a web 1615 00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:39,280 page built into the master, or it could 1616 00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,275 be a separate software program. Do I have 1617 00:53:41,275 --> 00:53:44,094 that correct? Yeah. Right. So the parameterization tool, 1618 00:53:44,315 --> 00:53:46,414 yeah, is usually is usually a software 1619 00:53:46,795 --> 00:53:48,335 package that'll run on your computer 1620 00:53:49,114 --> 00:53:50,315 connecting to your, 1621 00:53:50,635 --> 00:53:52,815 IO Link master that parameterizes 1622 00:53:53,114 --> 00:53:55,280 the IO Link master. Yeah. Excellent. Or through 1623 00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:57,840 the network somehow. Maybe through the network. Yeah. 1624 00:53:57,840 --> 00:53:59,139 Goes out and grabs that 1625 00:53:59,519 --> 00:54:02,579 IODD file from the IODD finder to, 1626 00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:05,519 you know, to parameterize that port in that 1627 00:54:05,519 --> 00:54:06,019 device. 1628 00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,139 Which is excellent because in previous 1629 00:54:10,085 --> 00:54:12,585 iterations of smart networks and smart devices, 1630 00:54:13,364 --> 00:54:15,304 you always have to go searching a vendor's 1631 00:54:15,364 --> 00:54:17,764 website, and then people would get the wrong 1632 00:54:17,764 --> 00:54:19,525 file, and then I would be in the 1633 00:54:19,525 --> 00:54:22,005 field saying this is never gonna work because 1634 00:54:22,005 --> 00:54:24,460 you get the wrong device file. If they 1635 00:54:24,460 --> 00:54:26,140 can't give you the right device file, you'll 1636 00:54:26,140 --> 00:54:27,980 never get it to work. You know? And 1637 00:54:27,980 --> 00:54:30,719 so this is much better having the organization 1638 00:54:31,019 --> 00:54:33,500 have everybody require everybody who has IO Link 1639 00:54:33,500 --> 00:54:34,400 to put their 1640 00:54:35,019 --> 00:54:37,820 IODD files in the one place so everybody 1641 00:54:37,820 --> 00:54:39,525 can always find it. And so the software 1642 00:54:39,525 --> 00:54:41,844 tools can find it automatically for you, which 1643 00:54:41,844 --> 00:54:44,025 is just a huge a huge change 1644 00:54:44,484 --> 00:54:46,184 versus what we went through in the nineties. 1645 00:54:46,885 --> 00:54:49,864 Exactly. We came on a CD or something 1646 00:54:50,005 --> 00:54:51,864 or what I mean, God only knows. 1647 00:54:52,739 --> 00:54:54,679 I'm gonna switch gears a little bit here, 1648 00:54:55,139 --> 00:54:57,940 talk about two topics subtopics within the IO 1649 00:54:57,940 --> 00:54:59,860 Link domain, and one of them is IO 1650 00:54:59,860 --> 00:55:01,079 Link wireless. 1651 00:55:02,579 --> 00:55:03,139 This is, 1652 00:55:04,260 --> 00:55:05,985 what we call is bridging the gap. 1653 00:55:06,465 --> 00:55:08,465 So it's an IEC standard, six eleven thirty 1654 00:55:08,465 --> 00:55:10,195 nine as of November 1655 00:55:10,195 --> 00:55:11,045 2023, 1656 00:55:11,744 --> 00:55:12,405 and it's 1657 00:55:12,945 --> 00:55:14,724 enabling connections that 1658 00:55:15,265 --> 00:55:16,244 simply weren't 1659 00:55:16,545 --> 00:55:17,045 possible 1660 00:55:17,345 --> 00:55:17,845 before 1661 00:55:18,545 --> 00:55:19,920 for IO Link. 1662 00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:23,219 And in an example here, we're showing a 1663 00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:25,380 a smart machine tool 1664 00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:28,319 where the IO Link sensor is integrated into 1665 00:55:28,319 --> 00:55:30,339 the chuck of the lathe. 1666 00:55:30,799 --> 00:55:33,380 Now that guy is spinning at 6,000 RPMs. 1667 00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:35,219 That connection 1668 00:55:35,534 --> 00:55:37,775 simply couldn't be possible couldn't be done any 1669 00:55:37,775 --> 00:55:38,514 other way 1670 00:55:39,375 --> 00:55:42,835 than with IO Link wireless or, let's say, 1671 00:55:43,454 --> 00:55:45,954 independent movers. So you've seen these moving systems 1672 00:55:46,414 --> 00:55:48,734 where you've got the either floating or on 1673 00:55:48,734 --> 00:55:50,574 a on a rail the other track systems 1674 00:55:50,574 --> 00:55:52,760 exactly. If you integrate the smarts of IO 1675 00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:55,579 Link onto the movers themselves instead of using, 1676 00:55:56,679 --> 00:55:59,079 SCARA or Delta robots to do the to 1677 00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:00,920 I mean, that's you're saving huge amounts of 1678 00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:03,159 cost Mhmm. That way if the if those 1679 00:56:03,159 --> 00:56:04,840 guys can move on their own, and they 1680 00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:06,525 use IO Link wireless to do that. 1681 00:56:07,005 --> 00:56:09,264 Slip rings where certainly sending power, 1682 00:56:09,964 --> 00:56:11,824 is is well known, but sometimes 1683 00:56:12,284 --> 00:56:14,525 communication can be tricky via slip ring. Mhmm. 1684 00:56:14,525 --> 00:56:17,484 Yeah. End of arm tooling, like robot robot 1685 00:56:17,484 --> 00:56:19,324 end of arms where you have a you're 1686 00:56:19,324 --> 00:56:20,844 gonna change the tool at the end of 1687 00:56:20,844 --> 00:56:21,505 the arm. 1688 00:56:22,530 --> 00:56:23,670 It's more lightweight, 1689 00:56:24,610 --> 00:56:25,750 saving on on 1690 00:56:26,369 --> 00:56:28,630 robot cost that way. Less fewer 1691 00:56:29,730 --> 00:56:31,349 lighter robots can be used, 1692 00:56:32,289 --> 00:56:34,869 but it's it's, it's cool. It the architecture 1693 00:56:35,010 --> 00:56:36,390 looks pretty much the same, 1694 00:56:38,315 --> 00:56:39,214 where you have 1695 00:56:39,675 --> 00:56:41,375 your field level, your IO, 1696 00:56:41,835 --> 00:56:44,554 and instead of wired connections, it's it's simply 1697 00:56:44,554 --> 00:56:45,614 a wireless connection. 1698 00:56:46,234 --> 00:56:47,914 Is that wired? It's it's wireless. And and 1699 00:56:47,914 --> 00:56:49,594 what's different about IO Link Wireless is that 1700 00:56:49,594 --> 00:56:51,250 it was built for industry. So I think 1701 00:56:51,250 --> 00:56:53,809 in the past, people have been burned by 1702 00:56:53,809 --> 00:56:56,610 wireless technologies that made some promises that didn't 1703 00:56:56,610 --> 00:56:56,690 maybe 1704 00:56:57,650 --> 00:56:59,436 you know, they they couldn't meet the the 1705 00:56:59,436 --> 00:57:02,130 the the the rigorous environment and and requirements 1706 00:57:02,130 --> 00:57:02,630 of 1707 00:57:03,045 --> 00:57:04,885 of industry, but that was different. It was 1708 00:57:04,885 --> 00:57:06,244 built for industry from the start. So it 1709 00:57:06,244 --> 00:57:08,824 uses the two point two point four gig 1710 00:57:08,885 --> 00:57:10,505 license free ISM band. 1711 00:57:10,964 --> 00:57:11,924 And what we do is a 1712 00:57:12,885 --> 00:57:14,344 is this frequency hopping 1713 00:57:15,125 --> 00:57:15,864 so that 1714 00:57:16,550 --> 00:57:18,010 we use the same IO link, 1715 00:57:19,590 --> 00:57:20,889 you know, data structure. 1716 00:57:21,349 --> 00:57:24,150 We do this frequency hopping, and it's it's 1717 00:57:24,150 --> 00:57:26,630 a cycle of five milliseconds. So you're not 1718 00:57:26,630 --> 00:57:27,989 going to get that one millisecond time that 1719 00:57:27,989 --> 00:57:30,174 you get via wired IO link. We do 1720 00:57:30,174 --> 00:57:30,994 a five millisecond 1721 00:57:31,454 --> 00:57:33,855 cycle time, and then it's using this frequency 1722 00:57:33,855 --> 00:57:35,554 hopping method. It's basically 1723 00:57:35,934 --> 00:57:36,755 cable grade, 1724 00:57:38,094 --> 00:57:38,594 connection, 1725 00:57:38,974 --> 00:57:40,674 10 to the minus nine error probability. 1726 00:57:41,295 --> 00:57:43,295 You can have hundreds of wireless devices in 1727 00:57:43,295 --> 00:57:46,250 a machine, and it's deterministic. It's designed it 1728 00:57:46,250 --> 00:57:48,329 is designed from the outside for both for 1729 00:57:48,329 --> 00:57:50,809 control, of course, but, of course, also for 1730 00:57:50,809 --> 00:57:53,210 for monitoring and maybe, like, a brownfield. You 1731 00:57:53,210 --> 00:57:53,610 wanna 1732 00:57:54,010 --> 00:57:54,750 you can't 1733 00:57:55,130 --> 00:57:57,690 get IO Link to a sensor or something 1734 00:57:57,690 --> 00:57:59,735 that you can maybe use IO Link wireless 1735 00:57:59,735 --> 00:58:01,655 to get access to some some hard to 1736 00:58:01,655 --> 00:58:02,474 reach sensor. 1737 00:58:02,855 --> 00:58:04,375 Well, you know, I thought that I think 1738 00:58:04,375 --> 00:58:05,974 this is so interesting. We actually had a 1739 00:58:05,974 --> 00:58:07,815 company on, I think, a year or two 1740 00:58:07,815 --> 00:58:10,614 ago, who does IO Link wireless, and that 1741 00:58:10,614 --> 00:58:12,055 was the first time I had heard of 1742 00:58:12,055 --> 00:58:12,389 it. 1743 00:58:13,349 --> 00:58:16,569 And he said, yeah. Hundreds of devices. Right? 1744 00:58:18,150 --> 00:58:19,210 It's pretty amazing, 1745 00:58:20,309 --> 00:58:21,909 especially if you have a lot of a 1746 00:58:21,909 --> 00:58:23,449 lot of things, the smart devices 1747 00:58:23,750 --> 00:58:25,909 that need to be, you know, free from 1748 00:58:25,909 --> 00:58:28,655 the network, need to be wireless. Maybe, you 1749 00:58:28,655 --> 00:58:30,655 know, the slip ring communications has been a 1750 00:58:30,655 --> 00:58:32,114 problem for years and years. 1751 00:58:33,534 --> 00:58:36,195 This because this is frequency hopping, it eliminates 1752 00:58:36,335 --> 00:58:37,394 a lot of the, 1753 00:58:38,014 --> 00:58:39,074 problems with, 1754 00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:42,059 you know, interference. Right? Yeah. Right. Exactly. 1755 00:58:42,519 --> 00:58:43,179 And and, 1756 00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:45,960 you know, it's just and I I highly 1757 00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:48,039 recommend people look into this if you're if 1758 00:58:48,039 --> 00:58:50,119 you're challenged. You can't run a wire to 1759 00:58:50,119 --> 00:58:52,300 every sent every sensor or every device. 1760 00:58:53,394 --> 00:58:56,214 This is definitely some very interesting technology. 1761 00:58:57,315 --> 00:58:58,534 And just like with, 1762 00:58:58,914 --> 00:59:00,434 so we we I I didn't mention it 1763 00:59:00,434 --> 00:59:02,355 explicitly, but when we're talking about IO Link 1764 00:59:02,355 --> 00:59:05,174 wiring, there's a 20 meter limit 1765 00:59:05,635 --> 00:59:07,494 Mhmm. For wired IO Link. 1766 00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:09,960 And we, you know, we talk about the 1767 00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:11,719 same thing for IO Link wireless that you're 1768 00:59:11,719 --> 00:59:12,619 not gonna be going 1769 00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:14,699 hundreds of meters wireless, 1770 00:59:16,199 --> 00:59:18,599 via via via IO Link wireless. So we 1771 00:59:18,599 --> 00:59:20,840 we stick to that 20 meter limit for 1772 00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:22,380 IO Link wireless as well. 1773 00:59:22,815 --> 00:59:24,815 Great for a cell. Great for a robot. 1774 00:59:24,815 --> 00:59:26,914 Great for a robot tools. Right? 1775 00:59:27,695 --> 00:59:29,855 But, yeah, this is not gonna replace your 1776 00:59:29,855 --> 00:59:31,934 Wi Fi or your LTE or anything like 1777 00:59:31,934 --> 00:59:33,534 that. Yeah. If you're or if you're in 1778 00:59:33,534 --> 00:59:35,454 a, you know, a tank farm or something, 1779 00:59:35,454 --> 00:59:36,755 you're not going long distances 1780 00:59:37,054 --> 00:59:39,949 Mhmm. Across across a a plant like that. 1781 00:59:40,809 --> 00:59:42,190 Alright. In the last couple minutes, 1782 00:59:43,130 --> 00:59:44,909 one more thing I wanna talk about. This 1783 00:59:45,130 --> 00:59:45,949 is pretty new. 1784 00:59:46,329 --> 00:59:48,570 That's you're not gonna find devices out or 1785 00:59:48,570 --> 00:59:50,329 at least many devices out on the network 1786 00:59:50,329 --> 00:59:51,070 like this, 1787 00:59:51,369 --> 00:59:53,550 but this is functional safety 1788 00:59:54,065 --> 00:59:55,125 for IO Link. 1789 00:59:55,585 --> 00:59:58,485 So IO Link safety is really clever name. 1790 00:59:59,105 --> 01:00:00,724 IO Link safety because today, 1791 01:00:01,505 --> 01:00:03,765 you've got if you wanna do functional safety, 1792 01:00:04,065 --> 01:00:05,684 you've got your FSCPs 1793 01:00:06,305 --> 01:00:08,164 or your functional safety communication 1794 01:00:08,465 --> 01:00:11,579 protocols like FSOE or SIP safety or PROFIsafe, 1795 01:00:11,639 --> 01:00:13,500 whatever the case may be. Mhmm. 1796 01:00:14,199 --> 01:00:15,559 You connect it out to your remote IO, 1797 01:00:15,559 --> 01:00:16,619 but every single 1798 01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:18,840 device needs a different interface. If it's a 1799 01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:21,079 relay, it needs a maybe a DO. If 1800 01:00:21,079 --> 01:00:21,820 it's a 1801 01:00:22,764 --> 01:00:24,925 estop, it needs a DI. If it's a 1802 01:00:24,925 --> 01:00:27,264 analog signal, it needs its own functional safe, 1803 01:00:27,724 --> 01:00:28,704 analog input. 1804 01:00:30,125 --> 01:00:31,885 With IO Link safety, we can get rid 1805 01:00:31,885 --> 01:00:34,525 of all those separate interfaces. Just use IO 1806 01:00:34,525 --> 01:00:36,910 Link for that, for any kind of safety 1807 01:00:36,910 --> 01:00:40,110 measure functional safety measuring sensor, functional safety switching 1808 01:00:40,110 --> 01:00:42,670 device. Maybe if the drive has a safe 1809 01:00:42,670 --> 01:00:44,190 input on it that it that it that 1810 01:00:44,190 --> 01:00:46,190 it could use, all that can be done 1811 01:00:46,190 --> 01:00:48,750 with a functionally safe IO Link master and 1812 01:00:48,750 --> 01:00:49,394 IO Link 1813 01:00:50,195 --> 01:00:51,974 safety. And, it's 1814 01:00:52,994 --> 01:00:54,914 it's the same concept as as IO Link 1815 01:00:54,914 --> 01:00:55,815 where we're transmitting 1816 01:00:56,515 --> 01:00:58,195 this data via IO Link, but we transmit 1817 01:00:58,195 --> 01:01:00,614 both safety and standard data from a device. 1818 01:01:01,315 --> 01:01:02,695 You can migrate, 1819 01:01:03,699 --> 01:01:06,340 IO Link safety and OSSD, so output switching 1820 01:01:06,340 --> 01:01:07,160 signal devices 1821 01:01:07,539 --> 01:01:08,199 can be 1822 01:01:08,820 --> 01:01:10,039 done in the same product. 1823 01:01:10,660 --> 01:01:13,780 The masters also offer generic IO Link standard 1824 01:01:13,780 --> 01:01:14,280 operation. 1825 01:01:14,739 --> 01:01:17,214 They also they offer the OSSD mode. And 1826 01:01:17,214 --> 01:01:19,534 it's cool because you don't need any switches 1827 01:01:19,534 --> 01:01:20,594 for safety addressing. 1828 01:01:21,135 --> 01:01:23,635 The the watch log time is set automatically. 1829 01:01:24,014 --> 01:01:26,574 You can exchange devices without a specific tool 1830 01:01:26,574 --> 01:01:28,494 just like with regular IO Link, and then 1831 01:01:28,494 --> 01:01:30,414 it's just that regular IO Link connection of 1832 01:01:30,414 --> 01:01:32,355 20 meters, flexible, no shielding, 1833 01:01:32,909 --> 01:01:33,409 inexpensive. 1834 01:01:34,269 --> 01:01:36,030 And this is this is pretty new stuff. 1835 01:01:36,030 --> 01:01:37,869 We just just and I'm talking, like, this 1836 01:01:37,869 --> 01:01:38,369 month, 1837 01:01:38,750 --> 01:01:41,710 got the the TUV, the TUV certification for 1838 01:01:41,710 --> 01:01:42,609 IO Link safety. 1839 01:01:43,309 --> 01:01:45,789 So we're we're expecting this to ramp up 1840 01:01:45,789 --> 01:01:47,969 quickly over the next couple of years again 1841 01:01:48,014 --> 01:01:49,714 for the same reason that IO Link, 1842 01:01:50,414 --> 01:01:52,654 grew so so fast, and that's the no 1843 01:01:52,654 --> 01:01:55,054 comp no competitor, and, you know, you're saving 1844 01:01:55,054 --> 01:01:56,894 on a lot a lot of costs by 1845 01:01:56,894 --> 01:01:59,954 by using it. Does it simplify the wiring? 1846 01:02:00,094 --> 01:02:01,315 Because in your photo 1847 01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:03,839 on the screen, you show the safety sensor 1848 01:02:03,839 --> 01:02:05,440 with the two, let's say, two, 1849 01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:06,819 relays. Right? 1850 01:02:07,119 --> 01:02:09,359 Mhmm. And, you have to acquire both of 1851 01:02:09,359 --> 01:02:11,359 those up to the to the input, the 1852 01:02:11,359 --> 01:02:14,019 safety input. Right? Functional safety digital in. 1853 01:02:14,545 --> 01:02:17,505 With IO Link safety, are we running just 1854 01:02:17,505 --> 01:02:18,485 one cable? 1855 01:02:18,945 --> 01:02:21,265 Just one cable. Yeah. It's the same same 1856 01:02:21,265 --> 01:02:23,284 IO Link cable. Exactly. Yeah. 1857 01:02:23,744 --> 01:02:26,885 So just like with, let's say, SIP safety 1858 01:02:26,945 --> 01:02:27,765 or a PROFIsafe, 1859 01:02:28,369 --> 01:02:30,469 where you're still just running one Ethernet cable. 1860 01:02:30,929 --> 01:02:32,769 Mhmm. Here, we're just running one IO link 1861 01:02:32,769 --> 01:02:35,170 cable. So you're you are simplifying installation, I 1862 01:02:35,170 --> 01:02:35,670 think. 1863 01:02:36,130 --> 01:02:37,650 Yeah. And it's and and it uses some 1864 01:02:37,650 --> 01:02:40,289 of the similar concepts, mainly that that whole, 1865 01:02:40,530 --> 01:02:41,590 black channel principle, 1866 01:02:42,925 --> 01:02:44,925 that we know from all that all the 1867 01:02:44,925 --> 01:02:46,704 that all the functionally safe, 1868 01:02:47,244 --> 01:02:48,684 protocols use that, 1869 01:02:49,164 --> 01:02:51,105 what you care about is making sure 1870 01:02:51,405 --> 01:02:53,324 that that signal gets from one end to 1871 01:02:53,324 --> 01:02:55,484 the other. Now it's a whole heck of 1872 01:02:55,484 --> 01:02:56,304 a lot easier 1873 01:02:56,670 --> 01:02:58,690 with IO Link because IO Link is 1874 01:02:59,150 --> 01:02:59,969 point to point, 1875 01:03:00,349 --> 01:03:01,409 not going over a network. 1876 01:03:01,869 --> 01:03:02,369 So, 1877 01:03:02,989 --> 01:03:04,349 that that becomes a whole heck of a 1878 01:03:04,349 --> 01:03:05,869 lot easier, but it's yeah. That's great. I 1879 01:03:05,869 --> 01:03:07,550 mean, it's just one one wire. You you 1880 01:03:07,550 --> 01:03:09,454 don't have to okay. Did I plug it 1881 01:03:09,454 --> 01:03:09,954 in? 1882 01:03:10,255 --> 01:03:12,275 You know? Is it normally open, normally closed? 1883 01:03:12,574 --> 01:03:13,695 Do you have both? Do you have three 1884 01:03:13,695 --> 01:03:15,934 of them? It's just that one IO Link 1885 01:03:15,934 --> 01:03:16,434 connection. 1886 01:03:17,695 --> 01:03:19,934 Alright. I think I'll wrap it up quickly 1887 01:03:19,934 --> 01:03:20,434 here. 1888 01:03:21,534 --> 01:03:23,840 So a lot of this focused on end 1889 01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:24,980 users, people installing 1890 01:03:25,519 --> 01:03:27,599 IO Link in their machines or in their 1891 01:03:27,599 --> 01:03:28,420 in their factories. 1892 01:03:29,039 --> 01:03:30,900 But for the if any listeners are 1893 01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:34,640 sensor manufacturers, device manufacturers, there are really two 1894 01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:36,320 main ways to get an IO Link device 1895 01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:36,820 certificate. 1896 01:03:37,235 --> 01:03:39,715 There's, the membership route, and then there's a 1897 01:03:39,715 --> 01:03:42,434 license model for those that may, for whatever 1898 01:03:42,434 --> 01:03:44,135 reason, choose not to become a member. 1899 01:03:45,635 --> 01:03:45,954 And, 1900 01:03:46,914 --> 01:03:48,994 with the license model, you I'll start on 1901 01:03:48,994 --> 01:03:50,489 the right hand side to work backwards. You 1902 01:03:51,530 --> 01:03:52,670 implement IO Link, 1903 01:03:53,050 --> 01:03:54,570 request the test in an IO Link test 1904 01:03:54,570 --> 01:03:56,489 center, then you get your IO Link vendor 1905 01:03:56,489 --> 01:03:58,250 ID from PI, and then you get your 1906 01:03:58,250 --> 01:04:00,829 product tested at the test center. And then 1907 01:04:01,130 --> 01:04:02,590 every device has a manufacturer 1908 01:04:03,130 --> 01:04:03,630 declaration. 1909 01:04:04,255 --> 01:04:06,175 And when I mentioned the IODD finder before, 1910 01:04:06,175 --> 01:04:08,574 when when a device manufacturer uploads that IODD 1911 01:04:08,574 --> 01:04:10,894 file to the IODD finder, they also at 1912 01:04:10,894 --> 01:04:12,335 least in the last couple of years, we've 1913 01:04:12,335 --> 01:04:13,934 we've we've asked and required them to do 1914 01:04:13,934 --> 01:04:16,815 that. They also upload the manufacturer declaration. So 1915 01:04:16,815 --> 01:04:18,389 end users can see, 1916 01:04:18,769 --> 01:04:21,909 hey. The manufacturer has tested this device, certified, 1917 01:04:22,610 --> 01:04:24,690 and, and they can rest assured that it's 1918 01:04:24,690 --> 01:04:26,690 it's gonna work as specified per per the 1919 01:04:26,690 --> 01:04:27,989 IO Link specs and standards. 1920 01:04:28,289 --> 01:04:29,809 And then in the in the license model, 1921 01:04:29,809 --> 01:04:31,969 you gotta purchase a license per device and 1922 01:04:31,969 --> 01:04:33,190 acquire patent rights. 1923 01:04:33,885 --> 01:04:35,824 Just about nobody goes this route, 1924 01:04:36,364 --> 01:04:37,105 but it was 1925 01:04:37,565 --> 01:04:38,625 initiated for 1926 01:04:39,164 --> 01:04:40,385 political reasons. Some 1927 01:04:40,684 --> 01:04:41,184 companies 1928 01:04:41,724 --> 01:04:42,465 or company, 1929 01:04:42,765 --> 01:04:44,465 didn't wanna join PI, 1930 01:04:45,164 --> 01:04:45,664 but 1931 01:04:45,965 --> 01:04:47,164 just about nobody, 1932 01:04:47,565 --> 01:04:49,699 does that. And most go the membership model 1933 01:04:49,699 --> 01:04:51,299 route where you join, get your IO Link 1934 01:04:51,299 --> 01:04:52,039 vendor ID, 1935 01:04:52,339 --> 01:04:54,179 implement IO Link, and then we allow members 1936 01:04:54,179 --> 01:04:56,579 to self test using any number of testers 1937 01:04:56,579 --> 01:04:57,639 that are out on the market. 1938 01:04:57,940 --> 01:04:59,940 And then you can sign the manufacturer declaration 1939 01:04:59,940 --> 01:05:01,639 yourself, which is basically self certification. 1940 01:05:02,235 --> 01:05:05,035 If you wanna learn more, these slides were 1941 01:05:05,035 --> 01:05:05,535 taken 1942 01:05:06,235 --> 01:05:06,735 from 1943 01:05:07,515 --> 01:05:09,215 a slide deck that's presented 1944 01:05:10,235 --> 01:05:12,635 couple times throughout the year at an IO 1945 01:05:12,635 --> 01:05:15,030 Link one day workshop. And this is a 1946 01:05:15,110 --> 01:05:16,969 this is a a very special 1947 01:05:17,510 --> 01:05:18,730 Sean Tierney, 1948 01:05:21,590 --> 01:05:22,090 resource. 1949 01:05:22,469 --> 01:05:23,050 We don't, 1950 01:05:23,429 --> 01:05:26,309 you know, display this everywhere. But if anybody 1951 01:05:26,309 --> 01:05:27,909 wants to get access to this stuff, they 1952 01:05:27,909 --> 01:05:32,105 can go to, io-link.us/2020five. 1953 01:05:32,105 --> 01:05:33,625 It'll ask for a little password. The password 1954 01:05:33,625 --> 01:05:36,045 is twenty twenty five, and you can download 1955 01:05:36,344 --> 01:05:38,045 the the training class manual, 1956 01:05:38,824 --> 01:05:41,864 the so, the full slide deck that is 1957 01:05:41,864 --> 01:05:42,764 that is performed 1958 01:05:43,065 --> 01:05:45,329 and and really demonstrated at these 1959 01:05:45,730 --> 01:05:47,170 IO Link workshops. So like I said, we 1960 01:05:47,170 --> 01:05:48,289 do four of these throughout the year. We 1961 01:05:48,289 --> 01:05:50,769 did two already, one in Seattle, one in 1962 01:05:50,769 --> 01:05:53,329 Philly, Philadelphia, and then we've got two coming 1963 01:05:53,329 --> 01:05:56,150 up in October, one in Vancouver, British Columbia, 1964 01:05:56,210 --> 01:05:58,710 and one in Richmond, Virginia. So if anybody's 1965 01:05:59,010 --> 01:06:00,950 listening and and in those areas, 1966 01:06:01,545 --> 01:06:02,764 it's a free class. 1967 01:06:03,385 --> 01:06:05,244 You get lunch. You get 1968 01:06:05,864 --> 01:06:07,704 a day of learning all about IO Link. 1969 01:06:07,704 --> 01:06:09,324 We do a lot a lot of demonstrations. 1970 01:06:09,385 --> 01:06:11,224 We get down into the the bits and 1971 01:06:11,224 --> 01:06:13,224 bytes a little bit. And then what's cool 1972 01:06:13,224 --> 01:06:15,969 is at these events, a bunch of vendors, 1973 01:06:16,269 --> 01:06:17,869 maybe a dozen or so show up with 1974 01:06:17,869 --> 01:06:18,369 products. 1975 01:06:18,670 --> 01:06:20,510 So if you wanna walk the room, it's 1976 01:06:20,510 --> 01:06:21,789 kinda like a little bit of a micro 1977 01:06:21,789 --> 01:06:22,289 fair, 1978 01:06:22,670 --> 01:06:24,510 and they support the event, which is how 1979 01:06:24,510 --> 01:06:26,030 end users are able to come and get 1980 01:06:26,030 --> 01:06:27,525 a free class and get a free lunch. 1981 01:06:29,045 --> 01:06:31,764 So go to iolink.us/events. 1982 01:06:31,764 --> 01:06:33,924 And if you're in in those areas, we 1983 01:06:33,924 --> 01:06:35,525 welcome you to to join us at at 1984 01:06:35,525 --> 01:06:36,505 one of these classes. 1985 01:06:36,885 --> 01:06:39,605 And that's my that's my plug. Yeah. Yeah. 1986 01:06:39,605 --> 01:06:41,284 And I I just wanna focus in on 1987 01:06:41,284 --> 01:06:43,719 this for those who are driving. So Vancouver, 1988 01:06:44,099 --> 01:06:44,920 British Columbia, 1989 01:06:45,380 --> 01:06:46,599 October 1. 1990 01:06:46,900 --> 01:06:48,119 Oh, yeah. Yeah. Richmond, 1991 01:06:48,420 --> 01:06:48,920 Virginia. 1992 01:06:49,460 --> 01:06:51,079 Right? East Coast people. 1993 01:06:51,380 --> 01:06:57,825 October 28 in i0-link.us/events. 1994 01:06:57,885 --> 01:06:59,485 So just wanted to say that again because 1995 01:06:59,485 --> 01:07:01,724 sometimes they're driving, they're like, well, I didn't 1996 01:07:01,724 --> 01:07:03,885 hear it or you know? So, hey. Look. 1997 01:07:03,885 --> 01:07:05,164 If you're on the East Coast with me 1998 01:07:05,164 --> 01:07:06,465 and you're near Richmond, 1999 01:07:06,844 --> 01:07:09,644 October 28, sign up early. Don't sign up 2000 01:07:09,644 --> 01:07:11,930 often. Just sign up once. But but, you 2001 01:07:11,930 --> 01:07:13,210 know, if you have friends you wanna meet 2002 01:07:13,210 --> 01:07:14,730 there, you don't have them do that. And, 2003 01:07:14,890 --> 01:07:16,970 it's great that the vendors come and make 2004 01:07:16,970 --> 01:07:18,190 the events possible. 2005 01:07:18,570 --> 01:07:20,090 Yeah. And it's it's nice just to get 2006 01:07:20,090 --> 01:07:21,769 that one out. So many so many of 2007 01:07:21,769 --> 01:07:23,050 us are so busy. It's nice to get 2008 01:07:23,050 --> 01:07:24,809 that one on one with the vendors. I've 2009 01:07:24,809 --> 01:07:26,809 actually been with the vendors at these shows, 2010 01:07:26,809 --> 01:07:29,984 and it's the the audience that it's attendees 2011 01:07:29,984 --> 01:07:32,464 usually have some awesome questions. And a lot 2012 01:07:32,464 --> 01:07:34,005 of times, they ask you about things 2013 01:07:34,304 --> 01:07:35,905 not even related to it, but, you know, 2014 01:07:35,905 --> 01:07:37,344 they just see you, so they wanna talk 2015 01:07:37,344 --> 01:07:39,664 to you. So definitely wanna shout out to 2016 01:07:39,664 --> 01:07:41,184 all the vendors who are gonna be there 2017 01:07:41,184 --> 01:07:42,970 as well. Yeah. It's it's it's it's a 2018 01:07:42,970 --> 01:07:44,430 great I mean, it's learning. 2019 01:07:44,809 --> 01:07:46,489 It's it's product if you want it to 2020 01:07:46,489 --> 01:07:49,450 be, but the content like this, is it's 2021 01:07:49,450 --> 01:07:50,730 not salesy at all. I mean, it is 2022 01:07:50,730 --> 01:07:52,750 a it's an it is an educational event. 2023 01:07:52,890 --> 01:07:53,930 But if you do wanna talk to the 2024 01:07:53,930 --> 01:07:55,450 vendors, then that's that's great. They're there to 2025 01:07:55,450 --> 01:07:56,410 help you out. Because at the end of 2026 01:07:56,410 --> 01:07:58,065 the day, you can't you can't buy an 2027 01:07:58,065 --> 01:07:59,984 IO link. Right? I mean, it it's just 2028 01:07:59,984 --> 01:08:02,304 a standard. It's just a what you can 2029 01:08:02,304 --> 01:08:04,224 buy are the products that use it. And 2030 01:08:04,224 --> 01:08:06,465 so that's why, we work together with the 2031 01:08:06,465 --> 01:08:08,304 vendors to to do to put these events 2032 01:08:08,304 --> 01:08:08,804 on. 2033 01:08:09,344 --> 01:08:11,869 Yeah. It's awesome. Yeah. And they're and they're 2034 01:08:12,250 --> 01:08:13,549 I mean, it's it's really impressive 2035 01:08:14,010 --> 01:08:15,210 that they're willing to get in a room 2036 01:08:15,210 --> 01:08:16,829 with, really, their competitors 2037 01:08:17,770 --> 01:08:19,550 and and do this and put this together. 2038 01:08:20,170 --> 01:08:21,770 The last one I wanna mention is profuse 2039 01:08:21,770 --> 01:08:22,890 news, but we talked about that at the 2040 01:08:22,890 --> 01:08:24,435 beginning. This is that monthly 2041 01:08:25,295 --> 01:08:27,694 newsletter that we that we send out to 2042 01:08:27,694 --> 01:08:28,895 130,000 2043 01:08:28,895 --> 01:08:30,114 of our closest friends, 2044 01:08:30,494 --> 01:08:31,475 and maybe you're 2045 01:08:31,935 --> 01:08:33,774 receiving PROFINews. If not, you can go to 2046 01:08:33,774 --> 01:08:36,114 the website. It's simply profinews.com 2047 01:08:36,630 --> 01:08:38,170 and, subscribe to PROFINews, 2048 01:08:38,550 --> 01:08:40,949 where those new products, particularly IO Link products 2049 01:08:40,949 --> 01:08:42,390 are mentioned and and, 2050 01:08:43,270 --> 01:08:43,930 and highlighted. 2051 01:08:44,550 --> 01:08:46,470 Yeah. One thing I like about this is, 2052 01:08:46,470 --> 01:08:47,989 you know, if you get too much email 2053 01:08:47,989 --> 01:08:50,229 like me from sources you don't want it 2054 01:08:50,229 --> 01:08:50,729 from, 2055 01:08:52,055 --> 01:08:53,734 You know, it's nice that you can go 2056 01:08:53,734 --> 01:08:55,255 to the website and pull it down when 2057 01:08:55,255 --> 01:08:57,595 you wanna see it. Right? So so maybe 2058 01:08:57,814 --> 01:08:59,574 it's you've been a couple months. You wanna 2059 01:08:59,574 --> 01:09:00,935 see what's new on IO Link. You can 2060 01:09:00,935 --> 01:09:02,715 go up there. Their website is excellent. 2061 01:09:03,095 --> 01:09:04,295 You can go and look at all the 2062 01:09:04,295 --> 01:09:06,695 articles, all the different, new products that have 2063 01:09:06,695 --> 01:09:08,649 come out. And you don't have to if 2064 01:09:08,649 --> 01:09:09,689 you you know, I know a lot of 2065 01:09:09,689 --> 01:09:12,010 people like the newsletter subscriptions. I'm one of 2066 01:09:12,010 --> 01:09:12,250 those, 2067 01:09:12,969 --> 01:09:15,369 Gen x's who don't, and and it'll at 2068 01:09:15,369 --> 01:09:17,849 least you know, I want, like like, I 2069 01:09:17,849 --> 01:09:19,609 wanna hear from Michael. I wanna hear from 2070 01:09:19,609 --> 01:09:22,155 Tom. I wanna hear from students like Daniel 2071 01:09:22,155 --> 01:09:24,494 I was emailing yesterday. You know, I'd 2072 01:09:25,114 --> 01:09:27,034 I'd every vendor, there's, you know, hundreds we 2073 01:09:27,034 --> 01:09:28,715 follow. If I had a newsletter from each 2074 01:09:28,715 --> 01:09:30,314 of those, it would my inbox would be 2075 01:09:30,314 --> 01:09:32,954 full. So but in any case, it's excellent, 2076 01:09:32,954 --> 01:09:35,215 guys. It's it's no fluff. It's really. 2077 01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:37,719 And and I've discovered new vendors from just 2078 01:09:37,719 --> 01:09:39,399 following that list. You know? These people I 2079 01:09:39,399 --> 01:09:41,800 didn't didn't know from my past. And, in 2080 01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:43,479 any case, highly recommend you guys all check 2081 01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:44,760 it out at least once or twice a 2082 01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:46,380 year if you don't want the email. 2083 01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:48,439 I appreciate that. Yeah. And, like and and 2084 01:09:48,439 --> 01:09:49,640 like I said and and right there at 2085 01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:51,414 the top, there's a button that says product 2086 01:09:51,414 --> 01:09:53,354 news. Click that, and then there'll be 2087 01:09:53,895 --> 01:09:57,175 every month's worth of new products section article 2088 01:09:57,175 --> 01:09:59,034 that we published for our newsletter. 2089 01:09:59,654 --> 01:10:01,814 There's some great articles up there too. So, 2090 01:10:02,375 --> 01:10:04,135 thank you very much for publishing them, and 2091 01:10:04,135 --> 01:10:05,810 keep up the great work on those. I 2092 01:10:05,810 --> 01:10:07,329 know we enjoyed them during the couple years 2093 01:10:07,329 --> 01:10:09,010 I was doing the news. We would, go 2094 01:10:09,010 --> 01:10:10,310 up there on a regular basis. 2095 01:10:11,489 --> 01:10:14,869 We're gonna send out issue number 251, 2096 01:10:15,890 --> 01:10:19,034 next week. Oh, wow. So every month, that's, 2097 01:10:19,435 --> 01:10:21,275 you know, do the math. Twenty years worth 2098 01:10:21,275 --> 01:10:21,775 of 2099 01:10:23,275 --> 01:10:26,095 crazy. Crazy. Job. Good job. Keep it up. 2100 01:10:27,755 --> 01:10:30,395 That's all I got. Once again, thanks thanks 2101 01:10:30,395 --> 01:10:31,529 for having me, Sean. 2102 01:10:32,010 --> 01:10:34,090 Michael, I really appreciate you coming on, and 2103 01:10:34,090 --> 01:10:35,770 that was a great update. And thank you 2104 01:10:35,770 --> 01:10:38,429 for including some real technical details in there. 2105 01:10:39,449 --> 01:10:40,510 We will be, 2106 01:10:41,529 --> 01:10:43,550 using the opportunity of having this 2107 01:10:45,210 --> 01:10:45,710 episode 2108 01:10:46,170 --> 01:10:46,670 to 2109 01:10:47,095 --> 01:10:48,314 go ahead and, 2110 01:10:49,414 --> 01:10:51,354 cover more IO Link products. 2111 01:10:52,055 --> 01:10:52,555 So, 2112 01:10:52,935 --> 01:10:54,614 we have had a number of vendors send 2113 01:10:54,614 --> 01:10:57,114 us products, but with non sponsored products. 2114 01:10:57,494 --> 01:10:59,255 So it's it's hard to find time to 2115 01:10:59,255 --> 01:11:00,375 use things when when, 2116 01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:02,359 know, everybody says, well, play with it in 2117 01:11:02,359 --> 01:11:04,119 your free time. I think we've all heard 2118 01:11:04,119 --> 01:11:06,599 that. And, but in any case so we 2119 01:11:06,599 --> 01:11:08,599 have new lessons coming. We have new videos 2120 01:11:08,599 --> 01:11:10,920 coming. We have new demos coming. So stay 2121 01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:13,399 tuned, folks. But, again, Michael, thank you so 2122 01:11:13,399 --> 01:11:16,314 much for coming back on the automation podcast. 2123 01:11:16,314 --> 01:11:18,475 Let's not wait four years. Let's say you're 2124 01:11:18,475 --> 01:11:20,235 back on in a few months to talk 2125 01:11:20,235 --> 01:11:21,454 about MTP 2126 01:11:21,994 --> 01:11:23,755 and, because I think that'd be cool and 2127 01:11:23,755 --> 01:11:25,994 then maybe Noah later on. Yeah. But thanks 2128 01:11:25,994 --> 01:11:27,675 again for coming on the show. Really appreciate 2129 01:11:27,675 --> 01:11:30,119 it. Oh, my pleasure. My pleasure. Well, I 2130 01:11:30,119 --> 01:11:31,560 hope you enjoy this episode, and I wanna 2131 01:11:31,560 --> 01:11:33,079 thank Michael for coming on the show and 2132 01:11:33,079 --> 01:11:34,840 bringing us up to speed on IO Link. 2133 01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:37,000 We hope to get Michael back on in 2134 01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:38,859 the coming months to talk about MTP 2135 01:11:39,319 --> 01:11:40,060 and Noah, 2136 01:11:40,824 --> 01:11:42,425 and some of the other things that they've 2137 01:11:42,425 --> 01:11:44,585 added to their portfolio since we had them 2138 01:11:44,585 --> 01:11:46,664 on four years ago. But with that said, 2139 01:11:46,664 --> 01:11:48,904 I also wanna thank all the members out 2140 01:11:48,904 --> 01:11:51,625 there who've joined my membership program. I look 2141 01:11:51,625 --> 01:11:53,304 forward to today where we can grow that 2142 01:11:53,304 --> 01:11:55,739 above the two to 3% mark and actually 2143 01:11:55,739 --> 01:11:57,359 start doing content dedicated 2144 01:11:57,739 --> 01:11:58,239 for, 2145 01:11:58,619 --> 01:12:00,539 what the members are asking for. Right? So 2146 01:12:00,539 --> 01:12:02,139 you guys can ask, hey. Cover this, cover 2147 01:12:02,139 --> 01:12:03,659 that, and we can actually afford to do 2148 01:12:03,659 --> 01:12:05,420 that. So thank you all the members out 2149 01:12:05,420 --> 01:12:07,579 there. I know you just love to support 2150 01:12:07,579 --> 01:12:10,095 the channel, and, you know, you really are 2151 01:12:10,095 --> 01:12:12,494 very busy like most of us are. So, 2152 01:12:12,734 --> 01:12:14,094 in any case, I just wanted to take 2153 01:12:14,094 --> 01:12:15,614 a minute to thank you. And I also 2154 01:12:15,614 --> 01:12:17,135 wanna thank all my students over at the 2155 01:12:17,135 --> 01:12:18,814 Automation School. Did you know I've added a 2156 01:12:18,814 --> 01:12:21,310 bunch of new, lessons lately? So especially to 2157 01:12:21,310 --> 01:12:23,550 the POC classes. So in any case and 2158 01:12:23,550 --> 01:12:25,310 I got a bunch more planned this fall 2159 01:12:25,310 --> 01:12:27,070 and a lot planned on IO Link. So 2160 01:12:27,070 --> 01:12:28,510 you're gonna see a lot of content from 2161 01:12:28,510 --> 01:12:30,750 me at IO Link, both on the lunchtime 2162 01:12:30,750 --> 01:12:31,970 show that I've been doing, 2163 01:12:32,555 --> 01:12:34,875 as well as in some upcoming episodes of 2164 01:12:34,875 --> 01:12:37,515 the automation show and the automation minute. So, 2165 01:12:37,755 --> 01:12:39,034 it's something I've wanted to do for a 2166 01:12:39,034 --> 01:12:41,055 long time, and the stars are just aligned. 2167 01:12:41,195 --> 01:12:43,515 So, we'll be covering IO Link a lot 2168 01:12:43,515 --> 01:12:45,390 both on the blog, on the channel, and 2169 01:12:45,390 --> 01:12:47,789 over at the automation school as well. And 2170 01:12:47,789 --> 01:12:49,229 with that, that's all I got to say. 2171 01:12:49,229 --> 01:12:50,750 Thank you very much for making it to 2172 01:12:50,750 --> 01:12:51,949 the end of the show. I wanna wish 2173 01:12:51,949 --> 01:12:54,189 you all good health and happiness. And until 2174 01:12:54,189 --> 01:12:55,250 next time, my friends, 2175 01:12:55,949 --> 01:12:56,449 peace.