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like, let's like, let's eat something and so

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we sat down finally, long day of hiking.

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comes up there their and needs we gotta

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leave in about right now.

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And Like, I'm not leaving. I gotta jump

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in this story. Go. Yeah. This was a

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lot... This wasn't like, we gotta leave right

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now. This was like a... Like hour and

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a half conversation of Jim knew where these

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bulls were as these elsewhere,

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and we kinda knew there were some elk

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up in this other spot. Where we were.

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and so Jim comes this night.

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Night, like, probably midnight like And so should

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we've been up early next day getting the

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goats ready hiking up this hill, get up

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there, and it's no, like, small feet. I

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mean,

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for... I mean, maybe for Annabel, Jim, for

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me, it's no small feet. And I'm like,

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if there's any elk here. U.

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it's pitch black. So I'm following my dad.

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a minute.

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I think we're lost. We like circle back

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around to Ryan.

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I'm like, what the heck?

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what am I right now. Both of them

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are pretty local after the feet

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hernandez

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crazy, man, but we just wanna let you

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know that we appreciate your support and most

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importantly,

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enjoy the podcast. Enjoy a podcast.

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so.

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He has runs street rock roof crew.

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Yeah. You have quite a few South American.

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The not fucking South American. What wallet?

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Guatemala?

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Yeah. So that's central Central America. Well, it's

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all south. There is a central in between

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the north and the south. All south of

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me. It's the middle part.

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He has a

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grip those people helping him about. Yeah. How's

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that going? How's that business going? What's going?

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Okay? It's stressful.

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Is that how you tow your tore your

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arm off there?

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Kinda. How's Oh, yeah. Tell. It started it

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there. Jim Torres bi up. He's had it

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rep pinned. Gotta tell him how you tried

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to save some sheet rock in fucking. It

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just a reaction to seen a you rug

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falling over the wall.

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And Reached over to ran over to try

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to catch it with my left hand. I

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don't know why. That she just let the

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freaking forget 25 dollar thing hit the floor,

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but I need it. I felt the pop.

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doctor got it I mri, and then I

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didn't know what... And I didn't know what

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the... I knew something it tore.

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muscle. And then I we went up going,

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my brother came up and we went up

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to the mountains. And

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do some fishing in some scouting.

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and I was trying to protect my arm,

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but I was up on a ridge, and

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there was a bunch of snow, on a

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right when you hit the get the top

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of it really steep on a ridge. Mh

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in a snow it's pretty warm and the

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snow. I popped the... I kinda post, you

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know, fell through the snow and as soon

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as I got out of the snow.

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I slipped down the hill, probably, I don't

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know, 20 30 feet so lighting, and I

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had to pull in my hand.

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In a my left hand hit the hit

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a rock. I don't know, the pole hit

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a rock. It... I just felt it snap

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and unravel, and Thought my vice it to

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move up my arm or my

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that just happened bad.

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Many miles from the truck? We... I don't

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about 5 or so. 6.

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Anyway, They spent the... I, I got,

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I, I... My had... I'd had messaged a,

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my wife and she messaged the doctor to

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go. I when nothing we could do today

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or it was, like, on a Saturday.

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Nothing we get to do today. So just

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come in on Monday.

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So so then I came in on Monday,

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And they go, well, we already know you

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build your biceps. So we have to have

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surgery on it. Did they had to Mri

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the week before. I didn't know about it.

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then they said,

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I'm no something else happens, like, a lot

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different.

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My whole form had, Like purple, like, lined

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that moved up it, and my bicycle it.

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Moved, like, this happened been since. It felt

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like a different spot. So anyways, it was...

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They just... They didn't never mri, but they

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And then I went into Surgery on monday.

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It was there an additional failure at that

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point or same thing? Yeah. We're just more

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shredded. Yeah. I don't know. Fucked it up

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worse. Yeah. He just said, we're... You know,

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so I don't I don't really know the

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whole thing because that when I went in

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on Monday did you the...

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They said they had to get to surgery

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right away. And so on Monday, I didn't

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really get to see the doctor much.

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6 hours. Mh.

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and the doctor was gone when I woke

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up, and And so... But then he just

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told Jenny that the

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they had to dig a long way to

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try to find out tenant. And then when

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I talked to the next day. Yeah. We

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really had a dig hard for that attending.

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Way up your by set... Did he,

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he said, well, you lost about 2 and

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a half centimeters of normal, what I would

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normally recover. So I had to pull that

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circuit tight. That's all I told, so I

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didn't really... I haven't been back in them.

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Yeah. Have you bent it straight? No. I've

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been in this thing the whole hold, so

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I know what going

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So Jim comes from a long line of

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fucking injuries.

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So you you've told me the other day

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that both your shoulders, they say are beyond

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repair the knee replacements. Yep. You broke your

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back. Yeah. You've had to have the tendon

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in your foot cut and you're Yeah. Like

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the big army. Yeah. Yep. Your hips fucked

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up. Yeah. But that that was... That's what...

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I was finally getting back to it after

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in January.

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I tore my gas lateral alice muscle off

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the bone.

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Well, that would kinda put me down for

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a while. So I'll just get straight. I'm

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I'm gonna get get back into it now.

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You need to slow down a little bit.

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Yeah. Maybe I'm just falling apart. I don't

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know. Did literally. Well, when you get 60.

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This is... You're the...

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on the podcast the most. Mh. And he

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has his daughter,

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her elk cunning, I guess prowess. So she's

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here a few, share a few stories, and

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we're here to talk why

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a little bit of scouting and how Jim

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has 4 daughters and 3 of the 4

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daughters hunt and probably 4 of the 4

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daughters. A hunt.

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How is... Not just hunt but murder shit.

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The difference. There's guys with 4 sons in

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the 4... None of the 4 sons hunt.

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Or, like, how did you cultivate

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this... I guess it's... We talked earlier, like,

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competitive nature in daughters because she's... You would

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say she's almost a world class athlete. So

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Is this true? This does help when you're

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hunting, of course. Yeah. Yeah it doesn't run

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a little bit? Mh. Yeah. Yeah. What do

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you what do you what do you run?

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For track, I run the 800 meters and

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the 1600,

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and I like the 402.

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Is 802

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laps. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I love it. I

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actually ended up winning state this year in

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it. Oh, shit. And I the best time

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in Of Idaho for it too. Oh, yeah.

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So yeah. Congratulations. You're too awesome. Times stage

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champion Yeah. In 800 meter. You went as

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a freshman? Yeah. And a sophomore. And then

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you win the mile too? Yeah. Wow.

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You're going into junior? Yeah. 2 You're gonna

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still... Obviously Gonna continue to do this. Mh.

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You'll open it... Takes you into college? Yeah.

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I wanna scholarship. Nice. You've been talking to

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anybody yet.

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Imagine this will be the summer. Yeah. They

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can't really come to you until after your

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sophomore year. Yep. Okay. But, obviously, holding 2

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fucking state championships in your belt already you

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gonna do alright? Yeah. Yeah. Think... I think

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they're going to find you. Yeah. Yep. Yeah.

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You may have to do a little bit

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of, you know, we talk about a a

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boy place football too, nothing like what you're

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doing right now, but... I think you gotta

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do a little bit of self promotion too.

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Like, if there's somewhere, you do want to

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go a specific college you wanna go. There's

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definitely some room for...

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In other words, don't just sit back and

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wait for shit to fall and you're not.

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Sometimes you gotta go get what you want

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to. Yep. Yeah. We put Aubrey played college

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basketball and we put her a reel together.

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Her highlights,

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and we started... Where she wanted to go

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we'd send them. Mh. And tracks different because

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it's, you know, it's you and your time,

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Well, basketball, there's there's so many basketball players.

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There's 6 8 on a team. Mh. So

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it's hard to, you know, get through all

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those girls to work your time.

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Is your time and you can see where

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you stand. So it's a little simpler, but

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I'd still make a sizzle real start sending

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it to police. Yeah. Luke can help you

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with that. Okay. That'd be awesome. Yeah. Yeah

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Yep. Definitely. Did you wanna go to a

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certain place?

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I know your dad that wants you to

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go anywhere where he can't drive to and

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make sure you're not becoming to let feel

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the same? I You. I don't wanna go

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away from home. I love my way so

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much. Like, I'm so close to them. And

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does any of the, like, Oregon states known

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for football let's say or any the local

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kind of Schools known for running. Oregon would

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be known for Oregon. Yeah. It's... Yeah. So

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then that's a goal. Really good. Yeah. Mh.

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Definitely. Do like 8 hours away. I know

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it's.

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Yeah. That's not bad. 8 hours is not

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bad. Liberal is fucked. Yeah. Yeah. You just

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gotta stay strong. Yeah.

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Yeah. Is there...

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At any, like... I know, like, Ls isn't

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You related? It's just gonna say. So, like,

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is there any correlation with being in warm

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weather that, basically they run better time because

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they can run more? Yeah. I think it

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has to do a little bit with elevation

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too, Like, like, people that live in higher

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elevation when they come down. To, like sea

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level for a race. They do so much

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better. They look like they might be worse.

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But... Oh, they're like better because they've been

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training up there. They go to like Colorado

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and run a little bit. Northern Arizona has,

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like for... They're not that big of a

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school, but they have, like, the best distant

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running. Mh. Yeah. For... And I don't know

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what it is about them, but they... Always

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kinda dominate even the national. You don't, with

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the Ls you and everybody.

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You can always train 2 with 1 of

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those oxygen, like, deprivation masks saw. I've seen

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those. Yeah. Yeah.

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It's just Anything past about 10:10 yards is

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too far. I can't even breathe sitting here

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for the past.

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Oh, and so I got it... I got

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listen

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tell us out of all your hunting that

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you've done in your life, what what story

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stands out the most in your head. What

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memory do you think of most or, you

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know, tell a story that that that stick

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to your head.

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Without outside influence. Yeah.

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So last year's was pretty crazy, but the

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year before that, when I got my biggest

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Elk ever,

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it was a nightmare, and I've I'm gonna

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be honest. You that multiple times with that

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trip. Yeah. It was a... You almost cried

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multiple. Oh, I did. You did cry multiple.

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Yeah. Be honest. It was it was not

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Well tell the tell the story. So

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I remember, like...

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On the... So me and Wright, my dad

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drove down there before us, I don't know

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if he had work or something like that,

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but me and Ryan drove down there, and

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we started hiking up the mountain that my

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dad told us to go up. But then

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he was... Apparently he was trying to reach

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us the whole entire time to tell us

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not to go up that mountain. Oh, shit.

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So we with a her goat. Yeah. With

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a her go. Shit. So we hiked all

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the way up there. Is just the video.

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No.

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No.

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Well, there was a video where somebody puts

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underwear on the scope there coming on. That

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was okay. Okay.

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Okay. Okay. I'm with you. Go ahead. But

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anyways,

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so we get all the way up there.

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It's fine... It's like, dark, and then Ryan's

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it's like, let's like, let's eat something and

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so we sat down finally. Long day of

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hiking, And then all of a sudden, my

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dad comes up there and he's like, we

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gotta leave in about right now.

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And Like, I'm not leaving. I gotta jump

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in this story. Go. Yeah This was a

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lot... This wasn't like, we gotta leave right

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now. This was like, a hour and a

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half conversation of Jim do where these bulls

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were. This these elsewhere.

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And we kinda knew there were some milk

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up in this other spot. Where we were.

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And the... And so Jim comes night

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night. Like, probably midnight. Yeah yeah. And so

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should we've been up early next day getting

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the goats ready hiking up this hill, get

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up there, and it's no, like, small feet.

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I mean,

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for... I mean, maybe for Annabel, Jim for

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me. It's no small feet. And I'm like,

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I'm... I'll I'll just stay it, you know,

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I'm... I'll just stay up here and see

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if there's any elk here. U.

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Anyways, continue on. So he decides to stay,

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and me and my dad, take off He's

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like, we gotta go fast. So we start

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hiking.

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And

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it's pitch blacks so I'm following my dad

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He has the flashlight and he's like, wait

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a minute. I think we're lost. We, like,

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circle back around to Ryan.

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I'm like, what the heck is... What do

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you guys do with that?

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And my like, I don't know. Oh, They're

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like, oh, no. So we just take off

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again. And nobody's slept. This is still the

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middle of the night. Oh, yeah. This is

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it's just an again. Goodness. And so we

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start...

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Hiking and we get into these clips, and

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I'm just terrified. I'm like, happens if 1

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of us slip and fall off, and then

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nobody's 1 gonna be able to come and

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find us. So I'm just terrified. We're hiking

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all the way down and it's taking a

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long time. Again, it's pitch black and it's

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steep. So we're going down. So it's scary

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like, who's gonna roll, you know. And so

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we finally,

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get down to, like, an area where my

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dad said he parked the quad

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because it was, like, way in there because

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he couldn't drive in there with a truck.

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And so we don't get on the quad

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and I think that we didn't have the

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key at the time. So we were using,

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like, a bobby pin discount.

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I left it at home.

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You forgot the key. Yeah.

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So using a bop Bobby Pin Right. Safety

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Pants. So know I, I think.

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What are you call at?

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I guess a paper clip paper.

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And then we take off, I remember, and

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I'm just, like, so tired from doing all

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this hiking,

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and I just...

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I think I just start to fall asleep,

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but then my dad, like, were lost.

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We don't know where work. Oh, yeah. No.

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Then the lights turned off. And I just

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undone. I'm like, mom, and we were just

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driving in circles and, like, it was like,

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this flat. Like, you just couldn't fit. And

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I was terrified, and we tried calling my

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mom and she was able to answer, but

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she couldn't help us.

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And I was just I was terrified. Like,

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I'm like, we're gonna be lost forever, and

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I tried using tried using a flashlight and

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shining it to drive, but it just didn't

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work. It wasn't a strong enough flight. So

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it was just

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absolutely terrifying. Like,

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But brain into my burn into my memory.

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This take from when you started on the

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quad till where actually found the truck.

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Hour half. Because what happened was I was

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in such a hurry to get up to

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you guys that I didn't bring any batteries.

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So I had a the flat... I'm been

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talking like, it was like a flashlight. That

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was so damn. Yeah. And and in the

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there's a road there, like this or road,

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but you know how those roads are up

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there to kinda... And you can't you couldn't

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see the road. I could... I I could...

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See the roads. Like, I keep driving off

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at a sage rush and like,

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how far were you parked from... Where was

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the 4 wheeler was to the truck? How

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far was that drive 20 many miles? I

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was probably, like, 2 or so me. But

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what happened was? We're half first? I I

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kept on trying to, like, thinking I was

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the road was turning. I couldn't see And

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so then I just keep turning they're like,

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I just say right. You know, So I

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kept...

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I... So did you ever find the elk

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that you were supposed to be hurrying up

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to find... Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We did.

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So we got to the truck. Or whatever

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eventually and then went to sleep and then

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early in the morning, might have like we

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gotta go. We're gonna be late. So we

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start hiking up this not and There's a

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trail, Like, there's like, a kind of a

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trail. He's like, no. Gotta take the shortcut.

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So we start going up. You back up

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for a second. It basically, we got to

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the truck and it was time to drive.

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So she fell asleep in the truck, and

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we drove to the But, heather... Was about

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an hour drive. So we got there...

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We we showed up the trail head at,

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like, 04:54

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40, and I was like, we are... I

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got her up. I I seen a horse

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trailer at the... And I I think the

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guys were saddle up the horses.

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I, we gotta go now. So that's when

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she woke up. Yeah. So I basically got

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to sleep like, how how long it took

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to get there. U. So, yeah. I was

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totally really tired. And then we started hiking

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up the in my dad's shortcut, so we

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just got point.

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Can we just stop for a second He's

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like. Gotta go up to the top. And

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so my... Alright. So where you keep on

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hiking? And then I think do we run

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into people?

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No. It was what happened was we found,

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we got up first... Right when we got

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to the ridge, Ice. About 1 of the

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hurdles oaks because we had seen. And I

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made you get down, and I got remember

493
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I got mad at you. Yeah. Because I

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thought you blew it. No no worries. Can

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I say? Okay. So he not he started

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getting Mad. He's like, what the heck wrong

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with you Like, I didn't do anything. He's

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like, the Elk Gone now and we... Like,

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there's no more chances. And I'm like, shoot.

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Can Well, ended up being some other hunters,

501
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I think like this... Was an outfit. Outfit.

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That jump with their horses and stuff like

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that. Yeah.

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So the herd took off, And was that

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the heard that my a was in? Mh.

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So I... We... I could hear It was

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really loud.

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And so my dad that we gotta get

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ready to shoot now. And he's like, annabelle,

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you shoot the biggest 1, You should the

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biggest bowl and make sure it's not a

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cow. And he's like, you gotta do it.

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I'm like, Alright. And they're all. You guys...

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You got to the top of the ridge

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and you said the Elk were gone. Oh,

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yeah. So and Is going a little too

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faster. I am. So they they were gone.

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They went down as canyon. So we had

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to want about another mile. U. And we

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knew they just bought them again. And we

521
00:16:27,870 --> 00:16:30,029
couldn't sp down in this deep hole. And,

522
00:16:30,830 --> 00:16:32,830
so we didn't... We were there. It it

523
00:16:32,830 --> 00:16:33,570
was probably

524
00:16:34,442 --> 00:16:36,031
noon before we spotted him again.

525
00:16:36,508 --> 00:16:37,143
And what happened?

526
00:16:38,176 --> 00:16:39,447
There was some. Oh,

527
00:16:40,321 --> 00:16:42,489
what happened to Res some fucking bruise

528
00:16:42,799 --> 00:16:44,150
I could tell there were some guys down

529
00:16:44,150 --> 00:16:46,455
the down off the. Small. He looks right

530
00:16:46,455 --> 00:16:47,250
in that elk.

531
00:16:47,647 --> 00:16:48,760
There were some there were some guys down

532
00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:50,588
in the bottom. They were bug. Remember there...

533
00:16:50,747 --> 00:16:51,542
I could tell the were people.

534
00:16:52,431 --> 00:16:53,783
And they whine up my... And that's whenever

535
00:16:53,863 --> 00:16:54,919
I said, hey, let's

536
00:16:55,294 --> 00:16:56,567
I heard them Bug, and in I crap,

537
00:16:56,646 --> 00:16:57,759
we need to go and hit this spot

538
00:16:57,759 --> 00:16:59,191
because his bulls are are gonna run out

539
00:16:59,191 --> 00:17:01,036
of that canyon right now. So we ran

540
00:17:01,036 --> 00:17:01,513
over to this

541
00:17:02,230 --> 00:17:04,060
we ran over to this ridge where you

542
00:17:04,060 --> 00:17:05,652
could see it across. You gotta give that

543
00:17:05,652 --> 00:17:07,324
picture to put on the podcast. Yep. Yeah.

544
00:17:07,801 --> 00:17:09,552
Ran over this ridge where you can glass

545
00:17:09,552 --> 00:17:12,996
across. It literally, like, 30 seconds later and

546
00:17:12,996 --> 00:17:15,549
it came out because I... Those people... IIII

547
00:17:15,549 --> 00:17:17,065
heard people walking on a trail down though.

548
00:17:17,399 --> 00:17:18,837
And you hear, you know, a person Vehicle.

549
00:17:18,997 --> 00:17:20,994
Oh, yeah. And nobody didn't tolerate that right

550
00:17:20,994 --> 00:17:23,631
off. So we in position and that's where

551
00:17:23,950 --> 00:17:24,110
Annabel.

552
00:17:24,764 --> 00:17:26,997
Though about your story about. Oh, I seen

553
00:17:26,997 --> 00:17:28,512
a big born about a whole, like 60

554
00:17:28,512 --> 00:17:30,904
cows. So, like... Yeah. So he's like, you

555
00:17:30,904 --> 00:17:32,339
gotta shoot and so is, I think, a

556
00:17:32,339 --> 00:17:34,903
thousand 24 yards away. That the elk word

557
00:17:34,903 --> 00:17:37,369
running. Oh. Because I remember that. And then,

558
00:17:37,767 --> 00:17:39,278
they were running, and I'm like, okay. Here

559
00:17:39,358 --> 00:17:40,733
I go. And I shoot

560
00:17:41,202 --> 00:17:43,828
they they east... We stopped him right before

561
00:17:43,828 --> 00:17:45,101
you shot right over the top. You know,

562
00:17:45,419 --> 00:17:47,090
I measured it, you know, at that little

563
00:17:47,090 --> 00:17:49,098
opening. Yeah. They were able well... My dad

564
00:17:49,098 --> 00:17:49,977
was able to see how far away they.

565
00:17:50,217 --> 00:17:51,416
Like, I don't if I'm gonna be able

566
00:17:51,416 --> 00:17:53,334
to make this. Is, like, really far. He's

567
00:17:53,334 --> 00:17:54,772
like, we'll just try and send then I

568
00:17:54,772 --> 00:17:56,610
shoot and then I'm not... I was, like,

569
00:17:57,023 --> 00:17:58,851
the whole moment by so fast as I'm

570
00:17:58,851 --> 00:18:00,202
was so nervous. I'm like, this is my

571
00:18:00,202 --> 00:18:02,666
only chance to get it. And so I

572
00:18:02,746 --> 00:18:04,017
I shoot and then I'm not sure if

573
00:18:04,176 --> 00:18:06,190
I... Got it the first time, so I

574
00:18:06,190 --> 00:18:07,069
think I shot again,

575
00:18:08,029 --> 00:18:10,429
and then did they come closer or... Yeah.

576
00:18:10,669 --> 00:18:12,669
So you hit the bull and ran straight

577
00:18:12,669 --> 00:18:13,984
at us. Down.

578
00:18:14,443 --> 00:18:15,642
All the other ones kept on running away.

579
00:18:16,122 --> 00:18:17,960
And were able to get down she suppressed?

580
00:18:18,439 --> 00:18:20,677
Yeah. Yeah. He ran straight out, and then

581
00:18:20,677 --> 00:18:22,355
she put another shot into him. Okay.

582
00:18:23,168 --> 00:18:23,961
65P.

583
00:18:24,199 --> 00:18:26,579
Yep. 01:47. So you range your range of

584
00:18:26,579 --> 00:18:28,721
range? Is she doing her wrong dials? I

585
00:18:28,721 --> 00:18:30,045
a dial because she was set on the

586
00:18:30,164 --> 00:18:31,835
And let's just let's also put this in

587
00:18:31,835 --> 00:18:33,267
there because people are gonna hear, oh, a

588
00:18:33,267 --> 00:18:35,256
thousand and 28 yards or whatever it was.

589
00:18:36,131 --> 00:18:36,608
These girls...

590
00:18:37,736 --> 00:18:40,197
Shoot a lot and annabel is an absolute

591
00:18:40,197 --> 00:18:42,817
zombie on the rifle. Mh. When she points

592
00:18:42,817 --> 00:18:43,452
at something,

593
00:18:44,325 --> 00:18:46,250
when she shoots, her fundamentals are good enough,

594
00:18:46,330 --> 00:18:49,119
it's going to probably die. Mh. So put.

595
00:18:49,358 --> 00:18:50,554
I was dialing as we're going, so I

596
00:18:50,554 --> 00:18:51,908
knew exactly and I were a bullet hidden.

597
00:18:52,147 --> 00:18:53,674
So I doesn't. She had a good rest

598
00:18:53,674 --> 00:18:55,183
in everything, but I would, you know, something

599
00:18:55,183 --> 00:18:55,421
nice.

600
00:18:57,010 --> 00:18:59,631
And then, yeah. So I thought I got

601
00:18:59,631 --> 00:19:01,219
it and so I started celebrating and I'm

602
00:19:01,219 --> 00:19:03,694
like, like, I'm like Screaming. I'm so happy

603
00:19:03,694 --> 00:19:05,279
and my dad's like, we've gotta go look

604
00:19:05,279 --> 00:19:06,943
for it now. U. And I said, Okay.

605
00:19:07,260 --> 00:19:09,638
Dark timber. Yeah. So they're they're in rates

606
00:19:09,638 --> 00:19:11,725
me. This is what I hate reaches. U.

607
00:19:12,124 --> 00:19:13,900
I'm not getting the messages

608
00:19:14,278 --> 00:19:16,113
in time at all and they're you never

609
00:19:16,113 --> 00:19:18,042
get the messages. No. I'm in reach. I

610
00:19:18,042 --> 00:19:19,396
knew they would be in reaching because I

611
00:19:19,396 --> 00:19:21,070
was... My plan was to look for Elk

612
00:19:21,070 --> 00:19:22,743
the next day and tell if there's was

613
00:19:22,743 --> 00:19:23,619
elk where we I was at.

614
00:19:24,988 --> 00:19:26,578
And I got a message from finally, like,

615
00:19:26,737 --> 00:19:27,611
bolt down or something,

616
00:19:28,406 --> 00:19:29,439
but they weren't coming in order.

617
00:19:30,154 --> 00:19:31,664
So there was, like, I was very confused.

618
00:19:31,903 --> 00:19:34,308
Yeah. And I get down to the truck,

619
00:19:34,468 --> 00:19:36,221
start driving back and pop a tire.

620
00:19:37,338 --> 00:19:37,896
I have the goats.

621
00:19:39,490 --> 00:19:40,925
So I had to go as a Mack,

622
00:19:41,499 --> 00:19:43,513
Yeah. Found the only dude in Mack

623
00:19:44,050 --> 00:19:45,804
to fix a flat. Okay. It's lucky because

624
00:19:45,804 --> 00:19:48,116
on a weekend, I believe. U. So they're

625
00:19:48,116 --> 00:19:49,471
waiting for me anyway anyways, go through the

626
00:19:49,471 --> 00:19:51,242
rest of your. Your your heartache I'm trying

627
00:19:51,242 --> 00:19:53,098
to find it. I'll go ahead. Okay. So

628
00:19:53,237 --> 00:19:55,174
we go down there and start looking, and

629
00:19:55,711 --> 00:19:58,026
we can't find it anywhere, and I, like...

630
00:19:58,839 --> 00:20:00,431
Okay. And might, like, let's just keep on

631
00:20:00,431 --> 00:20:02,661
looking. So we look for about probably like,

632
00:20:03,378 --> 00:20:04,094
over an hour,

633
00:20:05,289 --> 00:20:07,614
and I start crying. Like, I'm like, Are

634
00:20:07,614 --> 00:20:09,209
you kidding me? We've done all this? That's

635
00:20:09,209 --> 00:20:11,203
an emotional moment. And it's not, like, I

636
00:20:11,203 --> 00:20:13,675
was so upset. No. And so, like, 30

637
00:20:13,675 --> 00:20:15,271
hours you haven't slept yet. Yeah. I have

638
00:20:15,271 --> 00:20:17,206
not something a while. And so

639
00:20:17,919 --> 00:20:19,676
I think my dad, like, I was really

640
00:20:19,676 --> 00:20:20,955
upset and I went up and just sat

641
00:20:20,955 --> 00:20:22,393
on the rock. And my dad's like, I'm

642
00:20:22,393 --> 00:20:22,952
gonna go look.

643
00:20:24,150 --> 00:20:24,650
And

644
00:20:25,043 --> 00:20:26,393
I'm like, fine. You're not gonna find it.

645
00:20:26,631 --> 00:20:28,377
But I actually started to tell, like, dad

646
00:20:28,377 --> 00:20:29,886
just don't anymore. We've already looked for so

647
00:20:29,886 --> 00:20:32,029
long. It's kinda pointless at this point in.

648
00:20:32,188 --> 00:20:33,954
So He's like, I'm just gonna go try

649
00:20:33,954 --> 00:20:35,787
again, and I'm like, okay, fine. So I

650
00:20:35,787 --> 00:20:38,495
sit there. I'm just upset, obviously, and my

651
00:20:38,495 --> 00:20:40,487
dad, like, if I stick 1 of my

652
00:20:40,487 --> 00:20:41,841
poles in the air. That means I found

653
00:20:41,841 --> 00:20:43,290
it. And I'm like, okay.

654
00:20:44,326 --> 00:20:45,839
And so I'm just sitting there for a

655
00:20:45,839 --> 00:20:46,636
really long time.

656
00:20:47,194 --> 00:20:48,787
And then he all of a sudden starts,

657
00:20:48,867 --> 00:20:50,858
like, maybe, like, 20 minutes. I... I'll, it's

658
00:20:50,858 --> 00:20:52,942
been a while. But... Anyways, he start screaming.

659
00:20:53,181 --> 00:20:54,533
I found it. I found it and I

660
00:20:54,533 --> 00:20:56,681
just start, like, jumping and, like, screaming and,

661
00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:58,352
like, I was so like tears of joy.

662
00:20:58,511 --> 00:21:00,273
I was... So happy because... Moment is almost

663
00:21:00,273 --> 00:21:01,544
as good as when you dropped the ball

664
00:21:01,544 --> 00:21:02,973
on the first place. Oh, it no. It

665
00:21:02,973 --> 00:21:04,561
was like, the best feeling ever. And so

666
00:21:04,561 --> 00:21:06,149
my dad comes up to me finally, and

667
00:21:06,149 --> 00:21:06,467
he said,

668
00:21:07,499 --> 00:21:08,109
all, so

669
00:21:09,103 --> 00:21:11,011
I thought I found it, but it was

670
00:21:11,011 --> 00:21:11,170
just...

671
00:21:12,283 --> 00:21:13,078
That's a branch.

672
00:21:14,270 --> 00:21:16,735
I started. You're kidding. I've never heard this

673
00:21:16,735 --> 00:21:17,235
part.

674
00:21:17,704 --> 00:21:19,458
Crying Are you messing with her? Are you

675
00:21:19,458 --> 00:21:19,958
really

676
00:21:20,734 --> 00:21:21,234
the

677
00:21:21,770 --> 00:21:22,669
and I'm like that

678
00:21:23,125 --> 00:21:24,561
that's you sit on the rock.

679
00:21:26,888 --> 00:21:28,245
And then he told me, and I was,

680
00:21:28,325 --> 00:21:29,681
like, so... I was a make sure, like,

681
00:21:29,921 --> 00:21:31,038
I was mad for a second, but then

682
00:21:31,198 --> 00:21:32,874
I was just so happy and we finally

683
00:21:32,874 --> 00:21:35,121
went there, and I was just, like, so

684
00:21:35,121 --> 00:21:36,712
relieved. Like, that was so many hours of

685
00:21:36,712 --> 00:21:39,417
just worry, and I don't know. And so,

686
00:21:39,576 --> 00:21:40,553
yeah, that was

687
00:21:41,897 --> 00:21:43,727
A lot longer than the an hour. So

688
00:21:43,727 --> 00:21:46,034
we... We would happened is the when bull

689
00:21:46,034 --> 00:21:48,102
ran at us when she shot again.

690
00:21:48,754 --> 00:21:50,270
I seen no tracks like, he went down

691
00:21:50,270 --> 00:21:51,787
to this 1 hill, so I kept checking

692
00:21:51,787 --> 00:21:52,186
for blood.

693
00:21:53,064 --> 00:21:55,059
And we looked every... I mean, I followed

694
00:21:55,059 --> 00:21:56,256
every single way I could go. I didn't

695
00:21:56,256 --> 00:21:58,182
see anything. And it was, like, man, I

696
00:21:58,182 --> 00:21:59,217
know she ate it. I see him pump

697
00:21:59,217 --> 00:22:00,012
up, like, you know,

698
00:22:00,807 --> 00:22:02,080
it was a good shot. And then

699
00:22:04,164 --> 00:22:05,597
we went up actually go walking all the

700
00:22:05,597 --> 00:22:06,871
way back up the hill where she shot

701
00:22:06,871 --> 00:22:07,030
from.

702
00:22:07,747 --> 00:22:09,339
And I was like, looking, rick could possibly

703
00:22:09,339 --> 00:22:11,170
win, And then I didn't think I thought

704
00:22:11,170 --> 00:22:13,015
of the long shot there was... 1 little

705
00:22:13,015 --> 00:22:15,077
way. I was like, maybe it didn't come

706
00:22:15,077 --> 00:22:16,902
that way, you know, like, 1 little way

707
00:22:16,902 --> 00:22:18,489
like a little hook in... Like, a little

708
00:22:18,489 --> 00:22:20,845
hook. Yeah. And in. So I wind up

709
00:22:21,122 --> 00:22:23,026
why I wind up looking all around again.

710
00:22:23,184 --> 00:22:24,692
I kinda gave up, and I'm like, you

711
00:22:24,692 --> 00:22:25,326
know, actually...

712
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:27,786
She was pretty... She would really upset really.

713
00:22:28,118 --> 00:22:29,708
Mean, she was, like, broken down because I

714
00:22:29,708 --> 00:22:30,900
think she... You know, a whole night and

715
00:22:30,900 --> 00:22:32,569
no sleeping. So we wind up,

716
00:22:33,921 --> 00:22:35,431
I was feeling really bad. You know, as

717
00:22:35,431 --> 00:22:36,623
much as a good bowl I wanted to

718
00:22:36,623 --> 00:22:37,911
go to waste. And I know she hit

719
00:22:37,911 --> 00:22:38,707
it. And

720
00:22:39,662 --> 00:22:40,219
I wind up,

721
00:22:40,935 --> 00:22:43,085
actually say a prayer and wind up I'm

722
00:22:43,085 --> 00:22:44,597
like, god. Just... III

723
00:22:44,597 --> 00:22:46,047
gave up, and because I didn't find right.

724
00:22:46,287 --> 00:22:48,202
The way I went... Didn't find it. And

725
00:22:48,202 --> 00:22:49,479
so I just thought, I'm walking back to

726
00:22:49,479 --> 00:22:51,075
here. I'm like, now be awesome with that

727
00:22:51,075 --> 00:22:52,591
thing We just wrapped on a tree or

728
00:22:52,591 --> 00:22:52,830
something,

729
00:22:53,483 --> 00:22:55,623
you know, and I'm walking, and it was

730
00:22:55,623 --> 00:22:56,970
a way that you would not... I could

731
00:22:56,970 --> 00:22:59,664
not even imagine he woulda went. And and

732
00:22:59,902 --> 00:23:01,508
Look and like, First I thought I was

733
00:23:01,508 --> 00:23:03,184
saying something. The bullet, you could tell you

734
00:23:03,184 --> 00:23:04,461
he went up and he fell backwards.

735
00:23:05,340 --> 00:23:06,777
He only went, like, a hundred and 50

736
00:23:06,777 --> 00:23:08,772
yards, but he went the total up opposite

737
00:23:08,772 --> 00:23:10,621
direction you would expect. Yeah. And he had

738
00:23:10,621 --> 00:23:11,416
fell backwards and, like,

739
00:23:12,528 --> 00:23:14,754
bend up in a tree. Oh, shit. Yeah.

740
00:23:15,946 --> 00:23:17,949
That was cool. That's quite a story. And

741
00:23:17,949 --> 00:23:20,027
finally, when Ryan got up there, though, and

742
00:23:20,027 --> 00:23:20,746
we finally,

743
00:23:21,305 --> 00:23:22,903
cut it off, It was, like, pitch black

744
00:23:22,903 --> 00:23:25,940
again. U. We start walking back down, and

745
00:23:25,940 --> 00:23:27,865
it... Took a long time, and I remember...

746
00:23:28,263 --> 00:23:29,615
Ryan gave me 1 of the goats to

747
00:23:29,615 --> 00:23:31,286
take care of. And I was...

748
00:23:32,161 --> 00:23:32,956
It was so stubborn,

749
00:23:33,449 --> 00:23:35,439
And, like, my dad had, like, the the

750
00:23:35,518 --> 00:23:37,190
Oc o'connor or whatever and, like, they were

751
00:23:37,190 --> 00:23:38,623
all carrying this stuff. I didn't carry that

752
00:23:38,623 --> 00:23:41,273
much. I don't think at that time. And

753
00:23:41,744 --> 00:23:43,259
I was just, like, that go kept I'm

754
00:23:43,259 --> 00:23:44,615
pulling... Trying to pull me into the river

755
00:23:44,615 --> 00:23:45,891
or whatever. Like, it was just pulling me

756
00:23:45,891 --> 00:23:47,486
all over the place. And it was, like,

757
00:23:47,726 --> 00:23:48,842
it was a journey to get back to.

758
00:23:49,002 --> 00:23:50,198
It took forever, and we ended up getting

759
00:23:50,198 --> 00:23:51,807
back, like, I remember, it was like, 2

760
00:23:51,807 --> 00:23:53,715
or, like, No. 444,

761
00:23:53,874 --> 00:23:55,304
it was 4, and I'm Slept in the

762
00:23:55,304 --> 00:23:56,735
back of the truck until, like,

763
00:23:57,609 --> 00:23:59,531
really late the next day like, wow. You

764
00:23:59,531 --> 00:24:01,119
definitely needed need some sleep. Because I just

765
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,343
went passed out. But I was so happy

766
00:24:03,343 --> 00:24:05,487
that I was like, sunburn everything, but I

767
00:24:05,487 --> 00:24:07,884
was so happy that next day, like, relief

768
00:24:07,884 --> 00:24:09,949
and all that stuff. Nice. She said when

769
00:24:10,028 --> 00:24:11,617
I get there. She wasn't happy to see

770
00:24:11,617 --> 00:24:13,443
me. She was just dang happy to see

771
00:24:13,443 --> 00:24:15,508
the goat. That's right. I'll be the same

772
00:24:15,508 --> 00:24:15,747
way.

773
00:24:16,953 --> 00:24:18,543
I was, I'm not gonna carry this... We're

774
00:24:18,543 --> 00:24:20,054
not gonna take 2 trips out... What did

775
00:24:20,054 --> 00:24:21,564
you get there? Oh, I got there right

776
00:24:21,564 --> 00:24:24,028
at dark, holy shit. Like Had to go

777
00:24:24,028 --> 00:24:26,039
into town and they weren't they weren't exactly

778
00:24:26,428 --> 00:24:28,016
Close to the road. Yeah. And then I

779
00:24:28,016 --> 00:24:29,525
had to reload the goats, rep put all

780
00:24:29,525 --> 00:24:31,907
their painters on, start hiking in. Yeah. And

781
00:24:31,907 --> 00:24:34,265
I wasn't exactly sure where he was, but

782
00:24:34,463 --> 00:24:36,051
once I got to the top and it's

783
00:24:36,051 --> 00:24:38,060
pretty flat and it kinda came to my

784
00:24:38,195 --> 00:24:39,624
senses of how it went down.

785
00:24:40,339 --> 00:24:43,053
But I'll give Jim props. He took a

786
00:24:43,053 --> 00:24:44,402
man load out of there with that head.

787
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:44,958
Yeah.

788
00:24:45,593 --> 00:24:46,783
I don't know what you had was well

789
00:24:46,783 --> 00:24:48,132
over a hundred pounds. Yeah.

790
00:24:50,526 --> 00:24:52,031
My foot... That was after my foot was

791
00:24:52,031 --> 00:24:54,170
good... That was... I remember walking the the

792
00:24:54,170 --> 00:24:55,279
foot was the biggest problem.

793
00:24:55,992 --> 00:24:56,626
Yeah. I...

794
00:24:57,679 --> 00:24:58,880
We didn't have enough quotes to carry the

795
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:00,400
whole thing or what? Not... They can't carry

796
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,000
that head, but he didn't we basically took

797
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:03,440
the whole head out. She's getting... She got

798
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,293
it mounted. So he had the head to

799
00:25:05,293 --> 00:25:06,092
hide and everything.

800
00:25:06,731 --> 00:25:08,649
It it was well over a hundred pounds.

801
00:25:09,528 --> 00:25:11,526
Yeah. The and the ghost did good and

802
00:25:11,526 --> 00:25:12,245
ability good, my...

803
00:25:13,298 --> 00:25:14,574
A good day, but you did have a

804
00:25:14,574 --> 00:25:16,169
lot of time on your feet. Mh.

805
00:25:16,807 --> 00:25:18,003
Probably me I was. Always makes it worth

806
00:25:18,003 --> 00:25:19,359
at the next day, though, probably 50 hours.

807
00:25:19,519 --> 00:25:20,874
No that, but the story for later too,

808
00:25:20,954 --> 00:25:22,230
like, that's the story that sticks out.

809
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:24,151
What did she end up actually hitting it?

810
00:25:25,183 --> 00:25:27,168
She hit 1 and she hit... The that

811
00:25:27,168 --> 00:25:28,914
second shot was really good shot. The first

812
00:25:28,914 --> 00:25:30,677
shot was a little high. Mh.

813
00:25:31,392 --> 00:25:33,061
But second shot was, I mean, he went

814
00:25:33,061 --> 00:25:34,809
about it. It was a long shot. It

815
00:25:34,809 --> 00:25:36,001
didn't went but it didn't hit in heart,

816
00:25:36,239 --> 00:25:36,557
but

817
00:25:37,431 --> 00:25:38,782
so went about a hundred and 50 yard,

818
00:25:38,941 --> 00:25:39,234
but

819
00:25:39,832 --> 00:25:41,666
and downhill, they can go downhill quickly. Yep.

820
00:25:41,985 --> 00:25:44,057
Even when they're dead. Yep. But... I don't

821
00:25:44,057 --> 00:25:45,094
know what it was weird how it played

822
00:25:45,094 --> 00:25:46,710
in my mind where I watched him run

823
00:25:46,848 --> 00:25:48,379
or when she hit him I seen him

824
00:25:48,379 --> 00:25:49,737
go a different direction and he went. Like,

825
00:25:50,136 --> 00:25:52,373
that 1 direction he he went. I did

826
00:25:52,373 --> 00:25:54,131
not see that. I even know. Like, how

827
00:25:54,131 --> 00:25:55,583
my brain played a trick on me. Yeah.

828
00:25:55,821 --> 00:25:56,934
Maybe just being down there here. You seen

829
00:25:56,934 --> 00:25:58,284
him go this way, but he really went

830
00:25:58,284 --> 00:26:00,509
this way. What's crazy is they were... These

831
00:26:00,509 --> 00:26:02,258
elk were pretty much right on the trail.

832
00:26:02,909 --> 00:26:03,946
And they have a video of it. And

833
00:26:03,946 --> 00:26:06,179
there was probably a hundred elk. Mh. It's

834
00:26:06,179 --> 00:26:07,934
crazy. Like, they're just feeding across this big

835
00:26:07,934 --> 00:26:10,167
sage brush flat. No. Yeah. And then that

836
00:26:10,167 --> 00:26:11,284
was that was from a... That was up

837
00:26:11,284 --> 00:26:13,054
at the top where the outfit had busted

838
00:26:13,054 --> 00:26:14,811
them. Yeah. They were just actually bringing a

839
00:26:14,811 --> 00:26:15,211
hundred out.

840
00:26:16,329 --> 00:26:18,806
That's October. And that was October first. So

841
00:26:19,126 --> 00:26:20,894
they brought a hundred out it's bow around.

842
00:26:21,054 --> 00:26:22,645
It's the same tag that they have again

843
00:26:22,645 --> 00:26:22,963
this here.

844
00:26:24,316 --> 00:26:25,907
Okay. Okay. Yep. Same place.

845
00:26:26,782 --> 00:26:28,294
2 of them. Right? Did you 2? 2.

846
00:26:28,532 --> 00:26:31,182
Yeah. So it'd be Charlotte and to be

847
00:26:31,182 --> 00:26:31,981
determined. Yeah.

848
00:26:33,500 --> 00:26:35,178
Here's a jim drew the tag, so it

849
00:26:35,178 --> 00:26:36,377
he could give it to Ana annabel or

850
00:26:36,377 --> 00:26:36,537
amy.

851
00:26:37,576 --> 00:26:38,535
Depends on how that arm does.

852
00:26:39,426 --> 00:26:39,665
Yeah.

853
00:26:40,462 --> 00:26:42,214
So as far as go back to the

854
00:26:42,214 --> 00:26:44,205
beginning Ana annabel on your first elk cut,

855
00:26:44,364 --> 00:26:46,913
we have a video of it. Mh. What?

856
00:26:48,044 --> 00:26:49,580
Like, what do you think drives

857
00:26:50,038 --> 00:26:51,175
the car girls

858
00:26:51,633 --> 00:26:54,265
to go hunting? Like, most girls don't hunt?

859
00:26:54,664 --> 00:26:56,817
Even if their father is a hardcore hunter

860
00:26:56,817 --> 00:26:57,375
like your dad,

861
00:26:58,106 --> 00:26:59,957
why do you think in your own words

862
00:27:00,252 --> 00:27:01,603
that you have 3 out of your 4

863
00:27:01,603 --> 00:27:03,351
and probably 4 out of 4 girls at

864
00:27:03,351 --> 00:27:03,509
hunt?

865
00:27:04,860 --> 00:27:06,704
So I don't know. I just know... Like,

866
00:27:06,864 --> 00:27:08,939
the second I turned 10, for some reason,

867
00:27:09,178 --> 00:27:10,855
I just wanted to go hunting. So bad.

868
00:27:11,094 --> 00:27:12,531
Like, I saw my dad is done. Like,

869
00:27:12,770 --> 00:27:14,047
ever since I was little, he'd always, like,

870
00:27:14,127 --> 00:27:15,817
come home after his hunts, and I'm like,

871
00:27:15,976 --> 00:27:17,011
I just thought it was so cool. Like,

872
00:27:17,329 --> 00:27:19,000
I like loved it. I don't know if

873
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:20,353
people won't usually think that way. But...

874
00:27:21,547 --> 00:27:23,218
And like, I said, like, like you guys

875
00:27:23,218 --> 00:27:25,543
say, my sisters are pretty competitive, and So

876
00:27:25,543 --> 00:27:26,741
when they see. I I do it. Oh,

877
00:27:26,820 --> 00:27:28,736
they wanna do it too. Yeah. So I

878
00:27:28,736 --> 00:27:30,253
think that's kinda how it all falls in,

879
00:27:30,333 --> 00:27:31,850
like, oh, I'm gonna do better than you.

880
00:27:32,089 --> 00:27:33,526
It's always like, who's gonna shoot the better

881
00:27:33,526 --> 00:27:35,452
elk this year. You know, Not that kind

882
00:27:35,452 --> 00:27:37,438
of stuff. But, like, it all started with

883
00:27:37,438 --> 00:27:39,185
how bad. I always saw my dad, like,

884
00:27:39,503 --> 00:27:41,091
go hunting and he's, like, that cut type

885
00:27:41,091 --> 00:27:42,442
of dad that care so much. He's, like,

886
00:27:42,933 --> 00:27:44,045
He wants to make it fun for you,

887
00:27:44,204 --> 00:27:45,713
even though, like, we argue and stuff like

888
00:27:45,713 --> 00:27:45,872
that.

889
00:27:47,698 --> 00:27:48,731
I at the end of the day, I'll

890
00:27:48,731 --> 00:27:50,240
get us a smoothie and say it's okay.

891
00:27:50,478 --> 00:27:51,828
You know, But no. It's...

892
00:27:52,799 --> 00:27:54,315
In the heat of the moment the dads

893
00:27:54,315 --> 00:27:56,950
could be pretty tough. Yeah. I see gel

894
00:27:57,029 --> 00:27:57,987
Jim y'all his mom.

895
00:28:01,914 --> 00:28:04,229
What do you shoot at? No. He's she

896
00:28:04,229 --> 00:28:05,586
didn't wanna make a shot and he's like,

897
00:28:05,746 --> 00:28:07,582
mom up her waist in our freaking time.

898
00:28:07,981 --> 00:28:08,620
Shoot yelp.

899
00:28:11,506 --> 00:28:13,173
So that's... End of just if you think

900
00:28:13,173 --> 00:28:16,110
is competitive nature. Kinda also fostered from your

901
00:28:16,110 --> 00:28:18,173
dad, you know Mh. So... Does help when

902
00:28:18,173 --> 00:28:18,991
you have a

903
00:28:20,174 --> 00:28:21,847
a dad that pushes himself so hard he's

904
00:28:21,847 --> 00:28:24,797
falling apart. Yes. Yes. And we've had never

905
00:28:24,797 --> 00:28:26,550
given up. A lot of arguments. He pushes

906
00:28:26,550 --> 00:28:27,507
me a lot, like,

907
00:28:28,399 --> 00:28:29,997
Again. And it's really hard sometimes, but then

908
00:28:30,077 --> 00:28:32,474
I'm so thankful for it because you'd see

909
00:28:32,474 --> 00:28:34,072
a lot of other kids today. They're not

910
00:28:34,072 --> 00:28:36,324
pushed by, like, their parents or whatever. And

911
00:28:36,324 --> 00:28:38,397
even though, like, sometimes it's difficult. Like,

912
00:28:39,194 --> 00:28:41,108
it's made me a better person and, like,

913
00:28:41,427 --> 00:28:42,304
I've gotten to do a lot of cool

914
00:28:42,304 --> 00:28:44,138
things because of it. And so I'm just

915
00:28:44,138 --> 00:28:47,180
really thankful. Like... That my dad is so,

916
00:28:47,260 --> 00:28:49,331
like, he wants us to do good. In

917
00:28:49,331 --> 00:28:51,163
running and hunting, like, he... You can see

918
00:28:51,163 --> 00:28:52,995
he genuinely cares. Mh. And he wants me

919
00:28:52,995 --> 00:28:53,712
to be good. So.

920
00:28:54,364 --> 00:28:55,875
Does he push you harder in the hunting

921
00:28:55,875 --> 00:28:58,760
side or running tonight? Like, physically and mentally

922
00:29:00,169 --> 00:29:01,998
running. Yeah. I make a lot of mistakes,

923
00:29:02,077 --> 00:29:03,588
like hunting like, he gets mad me about

924
00:29:03,588 --> 00:29:05,033
that kind of stuff. I'm willing to go,

925
00:29:05,112 --> 00:29:06,621
like, if I'm gonna get a good Elk,

926
00:29:06,779 --> 00:29:09,241
I'm willing to go wherever it, I have

927
00:29:09,241 --> 00:29:11,067
to go. But with running at first, it

928
00:29:11,067 --> 00:29:13,151
started, but It was so hard. My dad's,

929
00:29:13,231 --> 00:29:14,268
like, you need to go run on the

930
00:29:14,268 --> 00:29:15,703
treadmill, and I'm like, I do not want

931
00:29:15,703 --> 00:29:19,293
to. Like, things fight every time. Mh. There's

932
00:29:19,293 --> 00:29:21,127
not a lot of not only... I would

933
00:29:21,127 --> 00:29:21,765
say kids.

934
00:29:22,336 --> 00:29:24,003
Girl or boy. There's not a lot of

935
00:29:24,003 --> 00:29:25,987
men that would stay up for 50 plus

936
00:29:25,987 --> 00:29:28,447
hours and put in 20 plus miles in

937
00:29:28,447 --> 00:29:30,534
that terrain. Yeah They're just not

938
00:29:30,844 --> 00:29:32,679
So it's pretty cool. Would you give... What

939
00:29:32,679 --> 00:29:34,433
do you got a tip for any young

940
00:29:34,433 --> 00:29:35,949
females that are starting to hunt? You got

941
00:29:35,949 --> 00:29:36,449
any

942
00:29:36,986 --> 00:29:38,762
tips or tactics or any

943
00:29:39,538 --> 00:29:40,176
words of advice?

944
00:29:42,337 --> 00:29:43,529
I don't know. I guess I guess you

945
00:29:43,529 --> 00:29:45,912
kinda just gotta make it fun sometimes. Like,

946
00:29:46,071 --> 00:29:48,454
I pretend to... Like, I'm talking to myself

947
00:29:48,454 --> 00:29:49,963
throughout the whole entire hunt. Like I'm... I'm

948
00:29:49,963 --> 00:29:51,810
gonna do this now. Out loud or to

949
00:29:51,810 --> 00:29:54,124
yourself. Both. We might have know him how

950
00:29:54,124 --> 00:29:56,117
crazy it was like using. Hey, guys. What's

951
00:29:56,117 --> 00:29:57,553
up. We'll come back to my channel. But

952
00:29:57,553 --> 00:29:58,989
even if I don't how you and I'm

953
00:29:58,989 --> 00:30:00,480
talking to myself about my

954
00:30:00,998 --> 00:30:03,231
imaginary channel, like, make it fun for yourself.

955
00:30:03,550 --> 00:30:05,065
And, like, I don't know. Find a way

956
00:30:05,065 --> 00:30:05,565
to

957
00:30:07,139 --> 00:30:08,096
put it in a way you like it

958
00:30:08,096 --> 00:30:09,851
because obviously, it's hard, but if you put

959
00:30:09,851 --> 00:30:11,621
it. In a different way or think about

960
00:30:11,621 --> 00:30:13,217
it in a different way, like, this is

961
00:30:13,217 --> 00:30:15,052
gonna be worth it in the end. And

962
00:30:15,211 --> 00:30:16,568
I don't know Sometimes that can push you

963
00:30:16,568 --> 00:30:18,577
or, like, think, I don't know. Especially if

964
00:30:18,577 --> 00:30:20,090
you've done multiple hunts, you're like, okay. I

965
00:30:20,090 --> 00:30:21,205
usually end up happy at the end of

966
00:30:21,205 --> 00:30:22,480
a hunt. And I know this is the

967
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,153
hard part, but you just gotta push through,

968
00:30:24,551 --> 00:30:26,383
and you'll have a cool story or or

969
00:30:26,383 --> 00:30:27,753
you're you're gonna... You know,

970
00:30:28,550 --> 00:30:30,942
have something cool. So that you've done. And

971
00:30:30,942 --> 00:30:32,377
so I don't know if other people think

972
00:30:32,377 --> 00:30:34,370
that way, but Not a lot of people

973
00:30:34,370 --> 00:30:35,486
get to see L like that in the

974
00:30:35,486 --> 00:30:37,253
wild either. A it's a dry... Once you

975
00:30:37,253 --> 00:30:38,446
see it the first time, or you kill

976
00:30:38,446 --> 00:30:40,037
a big bowl like that as fucking. It's

977
00:30:40,037 --> 00:30:42,026
addict. Mh. How many bulls you on to

978
00:30:42,026 --> 00:30:44,037
now? Out, in total Elk

979
00:30:44,810 --> 00:30:44,944
It's

980
00:30:46,017 --> 00:30:48,797
I honestly don't know. 7, but... Yeah. You've

981
00:30:48,797 --> 00:30:50,464
shot at least 5 bulls. Right? Is Yeah.

982
00:30:50,623 --> 00:30:51,600
At least and then

983
00:30:51,973 --> 00:30:53,188
2 cows and

984
00:30:53,658 --> 00:30:54,932
I don't remember how many bulls at least

985
00:30:54,932 --> 00:30:56,844
5. That bull in your story is about

986
00:30:56,844 --> 00:30:58,516
3 times bigger than my biggest bowl.

987
00:31:00,109 --> 00:31:01,862
It's it's in their palace and it's upstairs.

988
00:31:02,021 --> 00:31:02,180
It's...

989
00:31:02,912 --> 00:31:04,105
Good. Is is a good.

990
00:31:04,741 --> 00:31:06,889
What is what's your favorite piece of gear?

991
00:31:07,127 --> 00:31:08,480
Last question? Favorite piece of gear?

992
00:31:11,755 --> 00:31:13,186
Go on every hunt or it has to

993
00:31:13,186 --> 00:31:14,697
go with you. Hiking poles.

994
00:31:15,333 --> 00:31:17,893
Checking poles? Checking poles. Yeah. Because, like, you're

995
00:31:17,893 --> 00:31:19,169
going up the seat mountains, you're gonna fall

996
00:31:19,169 --> 00:31:21,163
over, if you don't have those things. And

997
00:31:21,163 --> 00:31:23,794
so definitely for me. And also a good

998
00:31:23,794 --> 00:31:25,069
backpack. Because when I didn't have a good

999
00:31:25,069 --> 00:31:27,557
backpack, my back and hips start really bad.

1000
00:31:27,876 --> 00:31:29,551
Speaking that, What is that backpack because it

1001
00:31:29,551 --> 00:31:31,306
fits the girls? Like, what is that name

1002
00:31:31,306 --> 00:31:33,755
of that? Yeah. So it is Western? Start

1003
00:31:34,272 --> 00:31:36,499
Oh, shoot. He built it for kids as

1004
00:31:36,499 --> 00:31:38,033
a pro. Right? Yeah. Western

1005
00:31:39,124 --> 00:31:40,476
oh. I should note too he's on rock

1006
00:31:40,476 --> 00:31:42,465
sign. I can. Then I know it. Good.

1007
00:31:42,719 --> 00:31:44,628
It's a great backpack. Yeah. The game changer

1008
00:31:44,628 --> 00:31:47,196
for the girl. She actually packed this last

1009
00:31:47,253 --> 00:31:48,764
hut. She packed the most she's ever packed

1010
00:31:48,764 --> 00:31:50,924
out before. In the pack, you know, because

1011
00:31:50,924 --> 00:31:53,384
they don't make packs for kids, Mh. Or

1012
00:31:53,384 --> 00:31:55,765
smaller frame people. And they... Like, when we

1013
00:31:55,765 --> 00:31:57,114
did it before, I just felt bad all

1014
00:31:57,114 --> 00:31:58,558
the time because the pack is, like, you

1015
00:31:58,558 --> 00:31:59,910
could see just weighing on her shoulder. You

1016
00:31:59,910 --> 00:32:02,138
know, just totally off. The chest straps choking

1017
00:32:02,138 --> 00:32:03,808
them to death. Yeah. It's not even. Or

1018
00:32:03,808 --> 00:32:05,399
shoulders or hips are ripping it apart, you

1019
00:32:05,399 --> 00:32:06,274
know, But this pack,

1020
00:32:07,563 --> 00:32:08,600
I don't know why I can't say off

1021
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,434
top my head Western. It's... They're out in

1022
00:32:10,514 --> 00:32:12,987
North Dakota. Western adventures or western outdoors. I...

1023
00:32:13,146 --> 00:32:15,220
Yeah. Western. I can't. Band it's right off.

1024
00:32:15,699 --> 00:32:16,097
We'll get,

1025
00:32:18,339 --> 00:32:20,242
Western packs for arcade for kids.

1026
00:32:20,876 --> 00:32:21,114
Yeah.

1027
00:32:21,907 --> 00:32:24,524
Western edge. That's it. Yep. Western edge gear.

1028
00:32:25,254 --> 00:32:27,412
It's amazing how well that fit you and

1029
00:32:27,412 --> 00:32:29,809
emmy. Oh, it's actually comfortable. Like, compared to

1030
00:32:29,809 --> 00:32:31,248
the other backpacks I've had to take. Oh,

1031
00:32:31,408 --> 00:32:33,326
and even just by itself, like, I feel

1032
00:32:33,326 --> 00:32:35,416
like it just... Fits to the point where

1033
00:32:35,416 --> 00:32:36,772
it's like I can put more weight on.

1034
00:32:37,011 --> 00:32:39,005
But before it's like, weighing me down and

1035
00:32:39,085 --> 00:32:40,361
I'm just like, I'm gonna fall down the

1036
00:32:40,361 --> 00:32:42,834
mountain if I'm not, you know, but I

1037
00:32:42,834 --> 00:32:44,922
don't have it un uncomfortable. So. It's made

1038
00:32:44,922 --> 00:32:45,480
a big difference.

1039
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That's part about being the oldest annabel, You

1040
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don't get the hand down. You know now.

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Well Jim, we should pivot to Scouting. And

1062
00:33:44,106 --> 00:33:45,543
Right. Scouting expert.

1063
00:33:46,261 --> 00:33:48,257
Yep. We literally had Dion on last week

1064
00:33:48,257 --> 00:33:49,693
and he said, yeah. You're you're a guy

1065
00:33:49,693 --> 00:33:50,251
to listen to.

1066
00:33:51,223 --> 00:33:52,254
I don't know if he's right or wrong,

1067
00:33:52,413 --> 00:33:53,444
but he said...

1068
00:33:55,347 --> 00:33:57,433
So it's it's July

1069
00:33:57,964 --> 00:33:58,281
twelfth.

1070
00:33:59,407 --> 00:34:00,914
Going Scouting, and what are we looking for?

1071
00:34:01,628 --> 00:34:02,898
It's it's a good time to be out.

1072
00:34:03,295 --> 00:34:04,961
This the last couple... It was this heat

1073
00:34:04,961 --> 00:34:06,072
right now that we have is kinda...

1074
00:34:06,722 --> 00:34:08,074
Slows things down a little bit, But,

1075
00:34:09,028 --> 00:34:10,539
yeah. It's time you wanna be out Scout.

1076
00:34:11,335 --> 00:34:13,322
Is there any particular things you look for

1077
00:34:13,322 --> 00:34:15,231
like, as far as train features or you're

1078
00:34:15,231 --> 00:34:16,995
going up to look for Are they still

1079
00:34:16,995 --> 00:34:18,425
red pretty dang red color? Yeah

1080
00:34:19,220 --> 00:34:21,921
Higher the higher country are like, so some

1081
00:34:21,921 --> 00:34:24,067
of that lower stuff, you know, you get

1082
00:34:24,067 --> 00:34:25,988
drier... They... Are they start to blend in

1083
00:34:25,988 --> 00:34:27,578
a little bit more. Where I like to

1084
00:34:27,578 --> 00:34:29,008
hit the green, you know, because I was

1085
00:34:29,008 --> 00:34:30,438
just up the other day and they were

1086
00:34:30,438 --> 00:34:32,916
really red. So the high country, they're... It's

1087
00:34:32,916 --> 00:34:34,506
prime time for high country right now. The

1088
00:34:34,506 --> 00:34:35,460
high country just opened up.

1089
00:34:36,254 --> 00:34:37,526
And the bucks are just moving up there,

1090
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:39,989
and I always find animals when they first

1091
00:34:39,989 --> 00:34:40,943
get to their summer range.

1092
00:34:41,594 --> 00:34:43,189
They're out. They're eye out a lot more

1093
00:34:43,189 --> 00:34:44,465
than they are, You know when they get...

1094
00:34:44,784 --> 00:34:46,378
I feel like they get their fat put

1095
00:34:46,378 --> 00:34:47,973
on and they, you know, than they start

1096
00:34:47,973 --> 00:34:48,292
to, like,

1097
00:34:49,010 --> 00:34:50,699
kinda change their habits a little bit. So

1098
00:34:50,859 --> 00:34:52,695
I'm always been a fan of earlier scouting

1099
00:34:52,695 --> 00:34:52,934
better.

1100
00:34:53,733 --> 00:34:55,489
So, like, say, you got a lower country,

1101
00:34:56,047 --> 00:34:58,842
like, couple weeks ago up Scouting. Maybe it's

1102
00:34:58,842 --> 00:34:59,640
more in a couple weeks now.

1103
00:35:00,688 --> 00:35:02,751
Yeah. I'll pull up. And I was finding

1104
00:35:02,751 --> 00:35:04,498
good bucks. I was pretty... I was pretty

1105
00:35:04,498 --> 00:35:06,005
excited about it. We didn't actually get a

1106
00:35:06,005 --> 00:35:06,720
tag in the area, But,

1107
00:35:08,408 --> 00:35:09,847
and that was a little bit lower country,

1108
00:35:10,326 --> 00:35:12,244
and they're the... They pop so we're good

1109
00:35:12,244 --> 00:35:14,401
against the, you know, the green terrain. Now

1110
00:35:14,401 --> 00:35:16,488
that's already dried up. You know, so they'll

1111
00:35:16,488 --> 00:35:18,632
still pop. But right now, the high country

1112
00:35:18,632 --> 00:35:20,775
is that, you know, is really green, and

1113
00:35:20,775 --> 00:35:22,839
the bucks are just, you know, pulling up

1114
00:35:22,839 --> 00:35:23,339
into,

1115
00:35:23,650 --> 00:35:25,409
pulling home right now. It was a good

1116
00:35:25,409 --> 00:35:26,929
time to be fine now. So it is

1117
00:35:26,929 --> 00:35:29,010
like mid July. How do you... Even early

1118
00:35:29,170 --> 00:35:30,849
July I just that... I'm just fine when

1119
00:35:30,849 --> 00:35:33,336
they first get to their they're they're home

1120
00:35:33,336 --> 00:35:34,688
for the rest of summer. Mh. Almost feel

1121
00:35:34,688 --> 00:35:36,119
like they're... I feel like they're like, a

1122
00:35:36,119 --> 00:35:37,391
kid in candy shop for a couple weeks.

1123
00:35:37,630 --> 00:35:39,379
And that's the early June, mid June. However,

1124
00:35:39,538 --> 00:35:41,788
right now, is like, my countries July, early

1125
00:35:42,027 --> 00:35:44,105
July. And and not that they won't be

1126
00:35:44,105 --> 00:35:46,023
always visible and spot. I just find out,

1127
00:35:46,103 --> 00:35:47,702
like, that early part where they opt that

1128
00:35:47,702 --> 00:35:49,380
new shoots coming up, You know, they're that...

1129
00:35:49,794 --> 00:35:51,712
At home. I just see... I see bigger...

1130
00:35:51,871 --> 00:35:53,630
Yeah, I see him a little more quicker.

1131
00:35:54,029 --> 00:35:54,268
You know?

1132
00:35:55,067 --> 00:35:56,905
Do you change your method for Elk to

1133
00:35:56,905 --> 00:35:57,065
deer?

1134
00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:59,632
Yeah. Elk. I mean, I'm looking more at,

1135
00:36:00,987 --> 00:36:02,183
it's a good time to Elk, you know,

1136
00:36:02,263 --> 00:36:04,176
the Elk tend to, you know, the bucks

1137
00:36:04,176 --> 00:36:05,532
when they hit home. They're using in that

1138
00:36:05,532 --> 00:36:05,771
area.

1139
00:36:06,503 --> 00:36:08,969
They elk, you know, like, like in, you

1140
00:36:08,969 --> 00:36:10,800
know, depending like, in even high country, lot

1141
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:12,630
of the calories are, you know, they're down...

1142
00:36:12,789 --> 00:36:14,472
You know, they're down you know don't, c

1143
00:36:14,472 --> 00:36:15,980
and steel. You know, they're just coming out

1144
00:36:15,980 --> 00:36:17,805
now. So I find elk move around a

1145
00:36:17,805 --> 00:36:19,891
little bit. I'm more looking for terrain and

1146
00:36:20,106 --> 00:36:21,454
you'll find a battle or herd of bulls

1147
00:36:21,454 --> 00:36:23,532
up high, you know, and then cows pull

1148
00:36:23,532 --> 00:36:25,119
up. So like... There's still some movement going

1149
00:36:25,119 --> 00:36:25,596
on with without.

1150
00:36:26,469 --> 00:36:28,135
Do you change, like, so mid July right

1151
00:36:28,135 --> 00:36:30,730
now? Do you change your basically your you

1152
00:36:31,008 --> 00:36:32,920
strategy in August at all? Or you're looking

1153
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:34,275
for the same general. I'm looking for the

1154
00:36:34,275 --> 00:36:36,027
same general areas. I like to I like

1155
00:36:36,027 --> 00:36:38,098
to, in the the best time to hit

1156
00:36:38,098 --> 00:36:39,793
a new area. I feel is

1157
00:36:40,422 --> 00:36:42,170
earlier. You know, Like, if you're gonna scout

1158
00:36:42,170 --> 00:36:43,362
a new basin or a new country.

1159
00:36:44,077 --> 00:36:45,983
Like, that earlier. That way you're... You have

1160
00:36:45,983 --> 00:36:48,684
a better... III considered all your odds. Say

1161
00:36:48,684 --> 00:36:49,557
you're going to a new country.

1162
00:36:50,448 --> 00:36:52,998
And like I've said before, maybe on this

1163
00:36:52,998 --> 00:36:55,968
podcast is the like, sometimes you have

1164
00:36:56,982 --> 00:36:58,986
you know, Feel like there's a window of

1165
00:36:58,986 --> 00:37:00,997
the time where those bucks are

1166
00:37:01,531 --> 00:37:01,928
out more.

1167
00:37:02,724 --> 00:37:04,552
You know, you wearing even bulls out more

1168
00:37:04,552 --> 00:37:06,302
feeding more they're easier to see. That's why,

1169
00:37:06,461 --> 00:37:08,627
like, early seizing. Early scouting to at least

1170
00:37:08,627 --> 00:37:10,064
find out where they're at because when it

1171
00:37:10,064 --> 00:37:12,140
dries up and they get a little bit

1172
00:37:12,140 --> 00:37:15,094
more wary in your terrain. Mh. They seem

1173
00:37:15,094 --> 00:37:16,472
to be out less. So

1174
00:37:17,103 --> 00:37:18,456
You might have to... They might still be

1175
00:37:18,456 --> 00:37:19,569
there, but you have to look a lot

1176
00:37:19,569 --> 00:37:20,842
hard to find them. And if you don't

1177
00:37:20,842 --> 00:37:22,512
know they're there, and you're looking at new

1178
00:37:22,512 --> 00:37:25,057
terrain, I'd rather find bucks that pop real

1179
00:37:25,057 --> 00:37:28,102
quick. Then, you know, it's it's always easier

1180
00:37:28,102 --> 00:37:29,378
to look hard in an area that you

1181
00:37:29,378 --> 00:37:31,292
know there's bucks than rather... Okay. I think

1182
00:37:31,292 --> 00:37:32,909
there might be bucks in this country. So

1183
00:37:33,206 --> 00:37:34,403
you just tend to look a little bit

1184
00:37:34,403 --> 00:37:36,174
less hard, I think. Know, But if you

1185
00:37:36,174 --> 00:37:37,772
knew they were in there, you're gonna look

1186
00:37:37,772 --> 00:37:38,971
harder. I'm gonna look in that glass a

1187
00:37:38,971 --> 00:37:40,889
lot harder. And if you expect to see

1188
00:37:40,889 --> 00:37:42,806
something, I think it's just that confidence. I

1189
00:37:42,806 --> 00:37:44,738
expect I'm gonna see something here. You So

1190
00:37:44,738 --> 00:37:46,328
then you can... You'll be glass and harder

1191
00:37:46,328 --> 00:37:47,600
behind trees, you know, where you need to

1192
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,349
be glass versus, like, I don't have a

1193
00:37:49,349 --> 00:37:50,621
clue if they're freaking anything in you're or

1194
00:37:50,621 --> 00:37:52,450
not. So you know, like, to put the

1195
00:37:52,450 --> 00:37:53,404
effort fork the glass.

1196
00:37:54,294 --> 00:37:56,046
To make it worked it, you know? And

1197
00:37:56,046 --> 00:37:58,594
you're talking earlier when when Jake was talking

1198
00:37:58,594 --> 00:38:00,584
about. This early season deer tag,

1199
00:38:01,301 --> 00:38:03,067
he used the moon a lot can you

1200
00:38:03,067 --> 00:38:05,454
kinda explain that? Yeah. I just... I mean,

1201
00:38:05,614 --> 00:38:08,081
I'm... I don't I don't know for for

1202
00:38:08,081 --> 00:38:08,399
deer,

1203
00:38:09,832 --> 00:38:11,184
especially boxes you can blow it up a

1204
00:38:11,184 --> 00:38:11,662
little bit Rhett?

1205
00:38:12,715 --> 00:38:13,994
Even even even a

1206
00:38:14,875 --> 00:38:16,875
even bulls, I just find a little bit

1207
00:38:16,875 --> 00:38:18,875
more consistency with that new moon. I've seen...

1208
00:38:19,195 --> 00:38:20,715
I see some great days with a full

1209
00:38:20,715 --> 00:38:23,361
moon. But I've also had... And and I've

1210
00:38:23,361 --> 00:38:25,035
also had on a full moon in a

1211
00:38:25,035 --> 00:38:26,629
spot out. For instance like,

1212
00:38:27,745 --> 00:38:28,861
say my 1 brothers hunt.

1213
00:38:29,514 --> 00:38:30,950
We seem like, where do we see it?

1214
00:38:31,109 --> 00:38:32,806
We seen a ton of bucks that after

1215
00:38:32,864 --> 00:38:34,619
late afternoon? Is that a full moon? It's

1216
00:38:34,619 --> 00:38:36,295
full moon? Oh, yeah. There was the morning.

1217
00:38:36,629 --> 00:38:39,172
40 bucks. Yeah. In the morning? The morning

1218
00:38:39,172 --> 00:38:41,478
before, we see, like, maybe 2 bucks. The

1219
00:38:41,478 --> 00:38:41,955
next morning,

1220
00:38:42,670 --> 00:38:44,260
full moon, first thing in the morning I

1221
00:38:44,260 --> 00:38:45,692
get up after we packed that buck out.

1222
00:38:45,930 --> 00:38:48,014
40 I glanced everything. I seem too dear

1223
00:38:48,014 --> 00:38:49,368
in the whole mountain. Because they just ain't

1224
00:38:49,368 --> 00:38:51,517
out. Like, they have a less consistent... You

1225
00:38:51,517 --> 00:38:52,791
know, they may might of fed all night,

1226
00:38:52,950 --> 00:38:53,609
and then

1227
00:38:54,159 --> 00:38:55,991
They might they might be more... They might...

1228
00:38:56,230 --> 00:38:57,846
They might there might be days that they're

1229
00:38:57,903 --> 00:39:00,213
more out in the evening time and they're

1230
00:39:00,213 --> 00:39:01,249
not out in the morning time. You know

1231
00:39:01,249 --> 00:39:02,922
there's just a little less consistency whenever you

1232
00:39:02,922 --> 00:39:04,633
have a dark, it's usually

1233
00:39:05,170 --> 00:39:06,607
more consistent first thing in the morning, they're

1234
00:39:06,607 --> 00:39:07,564
gonna be out for a couple hours You

1235
00:39:07,564 --> 00:39:09,958
know. It's just a consistent thing rather than

1236
00:39:10,038 --> 00:39:12,123
You know. Like, I looked there was 40

1237
00:39:12,123 --> 00:39:13,315
bucks we've seen the night before. And I

1238
00:39:13,315 --> 00:39:14,823
looked that whole mountain ridge over. Again, the

1239
00:39:14,823 --> 00:39:16,356
next morning to see him through any just

1240
00:39:16,411 --> 00:39:19,373
fine. No. There was nothing. You know. So

1241
00:39:19,508 --> 00:39:21,987
this consistency, you know, this is September 20

1242
00:39:21,987 --> 00:39:23,657
24 here. So you're right about the beginning

1243
00:39:23,657 --> 00:39:25,885
of the of the month there. Yeah. With

1244
00:39:25,885 --> 00:39:28,367
a new moon on the third. So that

1245
00:39:28,367 --> 00:39:29,960
that time right there is gonna be the

1246
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:31,554
best because they don't have any light that

1247
00:39:31,554 --> 00:39:33,625
night to be feeding. Yep. So they're gonna

1248
00:39:33,625 --> 00:39:35,034
be out like you said, consistently

1249
00:39:35,394 --> 00:39:36,594
consistently in the morning. So if we hunt

1250
00:39:36,594 --> 00:39:38,514
that next week, that'd be a good... Yeah.

1251
00:39:38,755 --> 00:39:40,594
And and I know people have... I mean,

1252
00:39:40,914 --> 00:39:41,875
I mean, we... You know,

1253
00:39:42,768 --> 00:39:44,045
full moon or no full moon you gotta

1254
00:39:44,045 --> 00:39:45,721
go and you gotta go. But. And you

1255
00:39:45,721 --> 00:39:46,838
can have just as good and luck. I

1256
00:39:46,838 --> 00:39:47,955
mean, you see more bucks on a moon,

1257
00:39:48,195 --> 00:39:50,603
but I'm just saying that consistency. You, you're

1258
00:39:50,603 --> 00:39:52,277
gonna have a crappy morning. Like, I I've

1259
00:39:52,277 --> 00:39:53,153
had more crappy,

1260
00:39:53,871 --> 00:39:55,465
you know, like, you get to a basin

1261
00:39:55,465 --> 00:39:56,660
you wanted a glass for a long time

1262
00:39:56,660 --> 00:39:57,776
and you go up there in full mood

1263
00:39:57,776 --> 00:39:59,468
and You think there's nothing in there. And

1264
00:39:59,468 --> 00:40:00,827
then you go back a week later 2

1265
00:40:00,827 --> 00:40:01,226
weeks later,

1266
00:40:02,025 --> 00:40:03,703
and I've had it, you know, I've seen

1267
00:40:03,703 --> 00:40:04,843
30 bucks in the basin

1268
00:40:05,701 --> 00:40:07,951
and and we go back. It just happens

1269
00:40:07,951 --> 00:40:09,224
to do full moon, I'm not even thinking

1270
00:40:09,224 --> 00:40:11,929
about it. In any of the temperature differences

1271
00:40:11,929 --> 00:40:12,963
make a difference too, you know if it's

1272
00:40:12,963 --> 00:40:13,996
hot. We're cool.

1273
00:40:14,569 --> 00:40:15,764
I've also had it where we're go and

1274
00:40:15,764 --> 00:40:17,197
you're expecting to see all these bucks and

1275
00:40:17,197 --> 00:40:18,869
then you don't see anything, so you lose

1276
00:40:18,869 --> 00:40:20,860
that confidence in there. Mh. You know, or

1277
00:40:20,860 --> 00:40:22,374
we didn't see anything we went back, and

1278
00:40:22,374 --> 00:40:24,060
then I've had a... But 1 of my

1279
00:40:24,060 --> 00:40:26,049
best spots. I just happened to go there

1280
00:40:26,049 --> 00:40:26,686
during her full moon.

1281
00:40:27,481 --> 00:40:28,516
The first time I've been in there could

1282
00:40:28,516 --> 00:40:29,232
it look great to me.

1283
00:40:30,027 --> 00:40:32,673
And I didn't see Jack. Mh. But the

1284
00:40:32,673 --> 00:40:33,790
only thing The reason I went back there

1285
00:40:33,790 --> 00:40:35,545
again because I've seen tracks everywhere. Was like

1286
00:40:35,545 --> 00:40:36,980
you he was tracked up, but I'm, so

1287
00:40:37,060 --> 00:40:38,974
I went happened to go back there, you

1288
00:40:38,974 --> 00:40:40,251
know, actually during the season.

1289
00:40:40,824 --> 00:40:42,179
And I was like, man, I'm just gonna

1290
00:40:42,179 --> 00:40:43,775
try it. And we went in there we

1291
00:40:43,775 --> 00:40:45,689
seen, I, 30 bucks. It 1 of the

1292
00:40:45,689 --> 00:40:47,284
best hunting days ever. Mh, but it was

1293
00:40:47,284 --> 00:40:48,640
a spot that I had scout during the

1294
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:49,836
summer on a full moon.

1295
00:40:50,729 --> 00:40:52,403
I didn't see anything. Something like I seemed

1296
00:40:52,403 --> 00:40:53,599
like a 1 cow pop out of the

1297
00:40:53,599 --> 00:40:55,193
timber. No. They would go back and it

1298
00:40:55,193 --> 00:40:56,549
loaded it up. But you don't know. But

1299
00:40:56,549 --> 00:40:58,542
but I knew that... Being... Another thing when

1300
00:40:58,542 --> 00:41:00,391
you're scout, and you're always looking for sign,

1301
00:41:00,710 --> 00:41:01,986
You know, like, no matter what during day.

1302
00:41:02,146 --> 00:41:03,981
If you're walking. You're looking. You're like, okay,

1303
00:41:04,220 --> 00:41:05,496
Just tracks all over here. Is nothing in

1304
00:41:05,496 --> 00:41:07,570
here. You know? You're always getting a picture

1305
00:41:07,570 --> 00:41:08,686
no matter what you're doing. Like.

1306
00:41:09,500 --> 00:41:11,179
Even when you're driving to, you know, driving

1307
00:41:11,179 --> 00:41:13,500
roads, you're always looking what you might wanna

1308
00:41:13,500 --> 00:41:14,619
be checking out in the evening, so you're

1309
00:41:14,619 --> 00:41:17,034
not wasting time, you valuable time, but You're

1310
00:41:17,034 --> 00:41:19,028
definitely always looking at the train and, like,

1311
00:41:19,188 --> 00:41:20,146
you'll look at and you see bunch of

1312
00:41:20,146 --> 00:41:22,859
old crap everywhere. Yeah. Good indication it might

1313
00:41:22,859 --> 00:41:25,268
just be winter range. But, Yeah. So Like

1314
00:41:25,268 --> 00:41:26,543
in this situation, if we were gonna go

1315
00:41:26,623 --> 00:41:28,537
Scout... We we should probably go Scout next

1316
00:41:28,537 --> 00:41:30,850
month during the new moon time frame there,

1317
00:41:31,010 --> 00:41:32,445
and then you're gonna know kinda what to

1318
00:41:32,445 --> 00:41:33,562
expect the next month. Yeah.

1319
00:41:34,534 --> 00:41:35,888
Yep. I like the... I like the new

1320
00:41:35,888 --> 00:41:37,242
moon. I mean, if you have if you

1321
00:41:37,242 --> 00:41:39,074
can control it. Now there's other things that,

1322
00:41:39,153 --> 00:41:41,065
like I said, like, to say it just

1323
00:41:41,065 --> 00:41:42,419
happens to be the beginning part of the

1324
00:41:42,419 --> 00:41:44,265
month, it happens to be, like, a hundred

1325
00:41:44,265 --> 00:41:46,413
degrees versus like... And then in middle, it's

1326
00:41:46,413 --> 00:41:48,004
black cooler, you know, that temperature will make

1327
00:41:48,004 --> 00:41:50,333
a difference for sure. Mh. And then

1328
00:41:50,644 --> 00:41:52,399
if you get... And then if you know

1329
00:41:52,399 --> 00:41:54,552
there's a bunch of fires coming and fires

1330
00:41:54,552 --> 00:41:56,387
could that unravel all this, you know, with

1331
00:41:56,546 --> 00:41:58,780
Scott with smoke. You know. That can unravel

1332
00:41:58,780 --> 00:42:01,666
everything. There's there's things Yeah. That's another reason

1333
00:42:01,666 --> 00:42:03,821
to go earlier than later. Yeah. I've had

1334
00:42:03,821 --> 00:42:05,178
areas I waited to go scout.

1335
00:42:05,976 --> 00:42:07,412
You know, you go wait to go scout

1336
00:42:07,412 --> 00:42:08,151
later and

1337
00:42:08,624 --> 00:42:10,143
you go, I'm gonna go Scout this in

1338
00:42:10,302 --> 00:42:12,220
August or whatever and then all set in

1339
00:42:12,220 --> 00:42:13,738
fires just get, you know, start burning somewhere

1340
00:42:13,738 --> 00:42:16,055
and, you know what happens with happens. Mh.

1341
00:42:16,869 --> 00:42:17,369
So

1342
00:42:17,748 --> 00:42:18,786
we have when Dion on.

1343
00:42:19,585 --> 00:42:21,742
I'm not a far from a mule dear

1344
00:42:21,742 --> 00:42:23,420
expert. I I like Elk a little more.

1345
00:42:23,914 --> 00:42:26,063
But I'm always looking for deer when I'm

1346
00:42:26,063 --> 00:42:27,996
looking for elk. And I noticed

1347
00:42:28,849 --> 00:42:30,146
the first 10 days

1348
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:31,477
when they're velvet,

1349
00:42:32,448 --> 00:42:32,687
dear.

1350
00:42:33,963 --> 00:42:35,957
I see him pretty much every day. Mh.

1351
00:42:36,356 --> 00:42:38,031
As soon as they pop their Velvet off,

1352
00:42:38,829 --> 00:42:40,583
I don't see him as much. My thought

1353
00:42:40,583 --> 00:42:43,391
was, I've what Heard is like, insects and

1354
00:42:43,391 --> 00:42:45,146
all different kinds of things that they they

1355
00:42:45,146 --> 00:42:46,981
start hitting the timber. They're not because so

1356
00:42:46,981 --> 00:42:48,816
concerned about being out in the open,

1357
00:42:49,629 --> 00:42:52,121
what is your thoughts on why they kinda

1358
00:42:52,339 --> 00:42:54,093
disappear from those big opening areas they were

1359
00:42:54,093 --> 00:42:56,883
in previously? I'll say the insects,

1360
00:42:58,252 --> 00:42:59,229
insects, but also,

1361
00:42:59,603 --> 00:43:01,431
like, their their horn... You know, they they

1362
00:43:01,431 --> 00:43:02,783
like to be... They probably... I don't think

1363
00:43:02,783 --> 00:43:05,031
they like rubbing their horns against brush whenever

1364
00:43:05,246 --> 00:43:06,598
they're in velvet, you know,

1365
00:43:07,409 --> 00:43:08,849
then they go... They'll they'll move down into

1366
00:43:08,849 --> 00:43:10,369
the timber a little bit more, you know,

1367
00:43:11,089 --> 00:43:12,929
later broad, I think because they don't like

1368
00:43:12,929 --> 00:43:14,529
that. You know, when whenever it's,

1369
00:43:15,583 --> 00:43:17,099
whenever they have that velvet in there and

1370
00:43:17,099 --> 00:43:18,932
they're... Though they're more apt to be vetted

1371
00:43:18,932 --> 00:43:20,687
up under, you know, behind a scrub pine

1372
00:43:20,687 --> 00:43:22,760
or something, you know? And it's just probably

1373
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:24,195
just because they don't have... They're not wack.

1374
00:43:24,688 --> 00:43:26,437
Ant answers all the time on stuff. Yeah.

1375
00:43:26,596 --> 00:43:27,868
And, like, D,

1376
00:43:28,742 --> 00:43:30,809
phenomenal hunter, but he doesn't hunt a lot

1377
00:43:30,809 --> 00:43:33,051
of the stuff that we hunt. And where

1378
00:43:33,051 --> 00:43:34,904
we're gonna be hunting for this tag that

1379
00:43:35,279 --> 00:43:37,667
Jake's daughter has. And these are like, fucking

1380
00:43:37,667 --> 00:43:38,167
hunting

1381
00:43:38,860 --> 00:43:40,611
close to black tails, man. They're not very

1382
00:43:40,611 --> 00:43:42,936
out very long. They got fucking tons of

1383
00:43:42,936 --> 00:43:45,249
timber to hide in. So it's very difficult

1384
00:43:45,249 --> 00:43:47,163
after that the shed or this who they

1385
00:43:47,163 --> 00:43:48,838
shed that velvet, it's hard to find them.

1386
00:43:49,077 --> 00:43:50,991
Oh, It is. Definitely. And and the thing

1387
00:43:50,991 --> 00:43:53,425
about it. Here where we're we're on is

1388
00:43:53,485 --> 00:43:55,565
is their feed sources, that's 1 thing about

1389
00:43:55,565 --> 00:43:57,324
down there, you know, some a lot of

1390
00:43:57,324 --> 00:43:59,059
other classic new country. They have

1391
00:43:59,659 --> 00:44:01,496
more feed sources that are just... They haven't

1392
00:44:01,496 --> 00:44:03,494
be... They're open... You know, they're can be

1393
00:44:03,494 --> 00:44:03,973
open up here.

1394
00:44:04,932 --> 00:44:07,103
They get their brushes and stuff from it

1395
00:44:07,103 --> 00:44:08,458
don't have to be open. You know. Mh.

1396
00:44:08,617 --> 00:44:10,052
You know, obviously, they like a little bit

1397
00:44:10,052 --> 00:44:11,964
more sunlight, you, for me, you know, because

1398
00:44:11,964 --> 00:44:14,036
you get more shrubs and stuff, but they

1399
00:44:14,036 --> 00:44:16,285
could... Appear to the consistency if they don't

1400
00:44:16,285 --> 00:44:17,641
have to go to this open basin to

1401
00:44:17,641 --> 00:44:19,476
get their food because there's not a... You

1402
00:44:19,476 --> 00:44:20,833
know, there's not a lot of it. So

1403
00:44:20,833 --> 00:44:22,324
do you think they don't make

1404
00:44:22,684 --> 00:44:24,681
big moves of I've asked Robbie of Sd.

1405
00:44:25,161 --> 00:44:27,478
They're probably still within that mile. They're just

1406
00:44:27,478 --> 00:44:29,795
more timber up. Yep. Yeah. I think the

1407
00:44:29,795 --> 00:44:31,726
deer... Especially up here. They don't migrate very

1408
00:44:31,726 --> 00:44:33,082
for at all. They just go down slow.

1409
00:44:33,401 --> 00:44:34,918
You know, they're not they're not going to

1410
00:44:34,918 --> 00:44:36,833
a winter range, like, some areas, you know,

1411
00:44:37,072 --> 00:44:39,164
there's areas down, other spots that I go,

1412
00:44:39,325 --> 00:44:41,085
they're, you know they're they're 60 mile 1

1413
00:44:41,085 --> 00:44:42,365
range. You know? Mh.

1414
00:44:43,164 --> 00:44:44,445
These ones pretty much live where they live.

1415
00:44:44,684 --> 00:44:45,724
So they're they're gonna work their way up

1416
00:44:45,724 --> 00:44:47,300
to their summer basin, and then they're work

1417
00:44:47,419 --> 00:44:49,643
then they'll kinda have a faster track back

1418
00:44:49,643 --> 00:44:51,311
down to their their winter range, you know?

1419
00:44:52,264 --> 00:44:53,399
Well these ones are

1420
00:44:53,852 --> 00:44:55,043
just slope differences.

1421
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:55,574
Then

1422
00:44:56,331 --> 00:44:57,685
The other thing I got a question for

1423
00:44:57,685 --> 00:44:59,517
you is you've told me multiple times that

1424
00:44:59,517 --> 00:45:01,748
a certain burn came back that was deer

1425
00:45:01,748 --> 00:45:04,536
friendly came back Elk friendly or vice versa.

1426
00:45:04,869 --> 00:45:05,748
What what does that mean?

1427
00:45:06,867 --> 00:45:08,246
It just... So,

1428
00:45:09,344 --> 00:45:10,943
you know, until you get in there, you

1429
00:45:10,943 --> 00:45:12,301
can't really tell. You know, there's... It may...

1430
00:45:12,461 --> 00:45:14,313
They might all look really green. Some of

1431
00:45:14,313 --> 00:45:15,268
them don't. But

1432
00:45:16,064 --> 00:45:18,293
and some... You know, they're elk typically like

1433
00:45:18,293 --> 00:45:20,681
different foods and mule, you know, you you

1434
00:45:20,681 --> 00:45:21,556
you get a lot of grasses,

1435
00:45:22,049 --> 00:45:24,925
So, usually burns come back out friendly quicker.

1436
00:45:25,325 --> 00:45:27,162
You know, you got a lot more other

1437
00:45:27,162 --> 00:45:29,000
grasses and certain forbes that they're eating.

1438
00:45:29,653 --> 00:45:31,247
Come up right away. I mean, can you

1439
00:45:31,247 --> 00:45:33,558
look glass across at a Canyon and on

1440
00:45:33,558 --> 00:45:35,072
a fresh bird and say, oh, that's definitely

1441
00:45:35,072 --> 00:45:37,039
gonna build. Yeah. You can. And you move

1442
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:38,840
you're looking for is, like, the type of...

1443
00:45:39,079 --> 00:45:40,920
You do gotta know what is growing back.

1444
00:45:41,079 --> 00:45:42,920
I've been tricked 1 time on it. There

1445
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,239
was an area that had burnt, and it...

1446
00:45:45,559 --> 00:45:47,410
What it had a brush at the deer

1447
00:45:47,410 --> 00:45:47,569
light.

1448
00:45:49,644 --> 00:45:51,001
And the... You know, so I always founded

1449
00:45:51,001 --> 00:45:52,437
deer around that brush no matter what. And

1450
00:45:52,596 --> 00:45:52,916
I went...

1451
00:45:53,570 --> 00:45:55,170
First time I went look at it. I

1452
00:45:55,170 --> 00:45:57,170
looked at it from afar, you know, because

1453
00:45:57,250 --> 00:45:59,489
I wasn't I was I wasn't really scouting

1454
00:45:59,489 --> 00:46:00,690
yet I had to go do something, but

1455
00:46:00,769 --> 00:46:02,860
I was driving and I pulled over, where

1456
00:46:02,940 --> 00:46:04,456
I can see the bridge from a, you

1457
00:46:04,456 --> 00:46:06,848
know, 5 miles away or whatever. And I

1458
00:46:06,928 --> 00:46:08,124
I put a spotter up there and I

1459
00:46:08,124 --> 00:46:09,480
glass, and I've seen all that brush. Oh

1460
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,568
my gosh, sweet that brush came back. I

1461
00:46:11,568 --> 00:46:14,039
thought it did. But a total different brush

1462
00:46:14,039 --> 00:46:15,872
had grown up there and when I actually

1463
00:46:15,872 --> 00:46:17,068
went up there to go look for mule,

1464
00:46:17,307 --> 00:46:18,662
because it was always a meal spot not

1465
00:46:18,742 --> 00:46:20,275
Lx spot. Yeah and I wanna went up

1466
00:46:20,275 --> 00:46:21,795
there. I no brush was totally different. And

1467
00:46:21,795 --> 00:46:23,235
was, like, it was the same color looked

1468
00:46:23,235 --> 00:46:24,275
in the same spots, but it was a

1469
00:46:24,275 --> 00:46:25,315
different brush. You know?

1470
00:46:26,035 --> 00:46:27,715
And it came back right away and it

1471
00:46:27,715 --> 00:46:27,875
was.

1472
00:46:28,688 --> 00:46:29,802
There were so many elk up there,

1473
00:46:30,837 --> 00:46:32,350
the Elk eating that brush, but the deer

1474
00:46:32,350 --> 00:46:34,102
weren't touching it, and I didn't see hardly

1475
00:46:34,102 --> 00:46:36,013
any deer. And then that burn,

1476
00:46:36,903 --> 00:46:38,649
really never came back to

1477
00:46:39,284 --> 00:46:41,030
I I feel... I think it burnt a

1478
00:46:41,030 --> 00:46:41,903
lot harder, harder.

1479
00:46:42,538 --> 00:46:44,046
So they actually never came back,

1480
00:46:44,617 --> 00:46:46,283
completely for mule. A lot of the brushes

1481
00:46:46,283 --> 00:46:47,791
they had before, and they come back. I

1482
00:46:47,791 --> 00:46:48,584
don't know if they got scorched.

1483
00:46:49,615 --> 00:46:51,464
And then, you know, there's some

1484
00:46:52,013 --> 00:46:53,449
There's a couple other elk carriers,

1485
00:46:54,406 --> 00:46:55,762
a couple of areas that came back really

1486
00:46:55,762 --> 00:46:57,597
good for Elk that I know of. And...

1487
00:46:58,394 --> 00:46:59,670
But the deer... You know, the deer had...

1488
00:46:59,829 --> 00:47:01,839
The deer brush take longer to grow. Well,

1489
00:47:01,999 --> 00:47:04,716
they might take 5 years. So a couple

1490
00:47:04,716 --> 00:47:07,512
areas I've noticed they they came phenomenal to

1491
00:47:07,512 --> 00:47:09,270
your country, like, way better than they'd ever

1492
00:47:09,270 --> 00:47:11,200
been before. But all these brushes that maybe

1493
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:12,237
just as a little bit of a in

1494
00:47:12,237 --> 00:47:14,391
there. I don't know if the fire spread

1495
00:47:14,391 --> 00:47:16,167
brush around, but that some

1496
00:47:16,624 --> 00:47:18,618
allowed these brushes to thrive, and, you know,

1497
00:47:18,698 --> 00:47:19,495
getting rid of that timber.

1498
00:47:20,068 --> 00:47:21,824
And then these brushes came back and the

1499
00:47:21,824 --> 00:47:23,738
mule just... I mean, you you could look

1500
00:47:23,738 --> 00:47:24,557
at the patches

1501
00:47:25,094 --> 00:47:26,210
and the mule are gonna be on those

1502
00:47:26,210 --> 00:47:27,566
patches. You know? So you just look at

1503
00:47:27,566 --> 00:47:28,922
the brush. Okay? I see that brush Just

1504
00:47:28,922 --> 00:47:30,534
gonna be deer there. Deer there, You know,

1505
00:47:31,014 --> 00:47:32,534
you look at another burn what look might...

1506
00:47:33,014 --> 00:47:34,614
Somebody might see it looks as good as

1507
00:47:34,614 --> 00:47:36,375
that burn. But you look at it, And

1508
00:47:36,375 --> 00:47:37,734
when you get in there, you notice the

1509
00:47:37,734 --> 00:47:39,094
deer ain't touching that stuff, You know,

1510
00:47:40,147 --> 00:47:41,981
And and so that they're not gonna be

1511
00:47:41,981 --> 00:47:43,098
at a place They don't wanna eat, you

1512
00:47:43,098 --> 00:47:43,258
know?

1513
00:47:45,012 --> 00:47:46,071
So you talked about

1514
00:47:46,847 --> 00:47:49,080
scouting for a, let's say, early season tag.

1515
00:47:49,654 --> 00:47:51,891
What about scouting in the same situation, you

1516
00:47:51,891 --> 00:47:53,489
know, with this tag we're talking about, But

1517
00:47:53,489 --> 00:47:55,566
but you you strike out on the early

1518
00:47:55,806 --> 00:47:56,525
September week.

1519
00:47:57,178 --> 00:47:59,272
And you're gonna do some scout for the

1520
00:47:59,410 --> 00:48:01,322
the writing week. Yeah. So

1521
00:48:02,039 --> 00:48:03,155
1 of 1 of the things you go

1522
00:48:03,155 --> 00:48:05,083
on look at, what I... I mean... Looking

1523
00:48:05,083 --> 00:48:06,679
at the whole time you're scout when you're

1524
00:48:06,679 --> 00:48:08,114
driving up there. You wanna be looking for

1525
00:48:08,114 --> 00:48:10,587
access. Mh. And then look for win range

1526
00:48:10,587 --> 00:48:11,703
stuff too, you know where you're on, you

1527
00:48:11,703 --> 00:48:13,378
know, where where these deer going to? It's

1528
00:48:13,378 --> 00:48:15,066
always has a store. You'll see you look

1529
00:48:15,066 --> 00:48:16,098
on side of the mountain, and you'll see

1530
00:48:16,098 --> 00:48:18,878
game trails, You know? I'm always just taking

1531
00:48:18,878 --> 00:48:20,228
account of these things, and you wanna look...

1532
00:48:20,784 --> 00:48:22,292
You don't wanna also think about access say

1533
00:48:22,292 --> 00:48:23,642
you got a lot of snow. I mean,

1534
00:48:24,135 --> 00:48:25,335
there might be spots you're not gonna, you

1535
00:48:25,335 --> 00:48:26,694
know you're gonna get to. So you're looking

1536
00:48:26,694 --> 00:48:27,194
for

1537
00:48:27,654 --> 00:48:28,154
your

1538
00:48:28,454 --> 00:48:30,054
places that look like you can hunt you

1539
00:48:30,054 --> 00:48:31,894
effectively. I'd rather go in a spot that

1540
00:48:31,974 --> 00:48:33,821
I look like... Know, like, I'm... You know,

1541
00:48:33,900 --> 00:48:35,407
if you could think you can hunt it

1542
00:48:35,407 --> 00:48:36,914
versus the you think you can it. Like

1543
00:48:36,914 --> 00:48:39,293
mh, like, say just a a nasty freaking

1544
00:48:39,293 --> 00:48:40,482
ridge that you don't think you can hunt.

1545
00:48:40,720 --> 00:48:42,092
You mean, you're looking for spots that look

1546
00:48:42,092 --> 00:48:43,608
like they'd be fun to hunt. Okay. We're

1547
00:48:43,608 --> 00:48:46,322
good on effectively. But you're also... You know,

1548
00:48:46,562 --> 00:48:48,158
you gotta think that there's gonna be deer

1549
00:48:48,158 --> 00:48:50,328
there or whatever you're looking for. So I'm

1550
00:48:50,328 --> 00:48:51,387
always looking for,

1551
00:48:51,765 --> 00:48:53,441
you know, the spots you can hunt effectively

1552
00:48:53,441 --> 00:48:55,356
as you're going, but you're also looking for

1553
00:48:55,356 --> 00:48:56,873
those game trails. Like, if there's a bunch

1554
00:48:56,873 --> 00:48:58,150
of game trails that you could tell that...

1555
00:48:58,404 --> 00:49:00,473
The winter wintertime they're down? Mh. That's a

1556
00:49:00,473 --> 00:49:02,543
good that's a good indication. You know? Okay.

1557
00:49:03,577 --> 00:49:05,647
So... So when they're moving, how does the

1558
00:49:05,647 --> 00:49:07,637
rut coincide with moving to winter range?

1559
00:49:09,005 --> 00:49:10,838
Snow depth sometimes, you know, So that them

1560
00:49:10,838 --> 00:49:13,227
there's definitely a lot of things that, you

1561
00:49:13,227 --> 00:49:13,466
know,

1562
00:49:14,820 --> 00:49:16,333
that come to play depending on the area.

1563
00:49:16,572 --> 00:49:18,099
Like, you know, like, the bucks that we're

1564
00:49:18,099 --> 00:49:19,532
gonna be looking at. They don't move a

1565
00:49:19,532 --> 00:49:20,327
long ways to,

1566
00:49:20,963 --> 00:49:22,872
for your for your daughter's type. U. They

1567
00:49:22,872 --> 00:49:24,145
don't move a long ways the winter range.

1568
00:49:24,398 --> 00:49:25,747
So you're gonna be looking for nose.

1569
00:49:26,382 --> 00:49:27,730
And a lot of times, they're only gonna

1570
00:49:27,730 --> 00:49:29,317
move down a little bit, You know? So

1571
00:49:29,317 --> 00:49:30,134
we're not talking

1572
00:49:30,507 --> 00:49:30,983
big best.

1573
00:49:31,634 --> 00:49:33,952
Majority. But but but what you're gonna be

1574
00:49:33,952 --> 00:49:35,390
looking at we're saying in the early season

1575
00:49:35,390 --> 00:49:36,668
we're we're hunting the top of the ridge

1576
00:49:36,668 --> 00:49:38,026
or we're where we're finding the deer at.

1577
00:49:38,186 --> 00:49:40,669
Mh. You're gonna be looking for Okay. These

1578
00:49:40,669 --> 00:49:42,333
deer... If they get you get 2 or

1579
00:49:42,333 --> 00:49:43,838
3 feet of snow up here, you deer

1580
00:49:43,838 --> 00:49:45,581
are gonna probably pull down into this... And

1581
00:49:45,581 --> 00:49:46,770
that's where we found a lot of these...

1582
00:49:46,944 --> 00:49:49,414
Bucks that we found, in November, Know, they

1583
00:49:49,414 --> 00:49:50,689
might have been a little bit higher in

1584
00:49:51,007 --> 00:49:52,840
September or, you know, early, but they just

1585
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:54,527
moved down to these brush fields stocks you're

1586
00:49:54,527 --> 00:49:56,195
looking for those, like, brush fields that the

1587
00:49:56,195 --> 00:49:58,102
deer are gonna like. See an Office brush

1588
00:49:58,102 --> 00:49:59,770
and not? U. You're gonna be looking... Okay.

1589
00:49:59,929 --> 00:50:02,171
They're gonna probably pull into here. And and

1590
00:50:02,171 --> 00:50:04,402
then you gotta kinda just kinda... Yeah. Estimate

1591
00:50:04,482 --> 00:50:06,553
Dolby in that. So generally kinda of the

1592
00:50:06,553 --> 00:50:08,306
worst the terrain, the worst the country you're

1593
00:50:08,306 --> 00:50:09,661
hunting in the less the deer are gonna

1594
00:50:09,661 --> 00:50:11,909
move between summer and winter range. Yeah. Yeah.

1595
00:50:12,070 --> 00:50:13,909
Yeah. We don't have we don't have we

1596
00:50:13,909 --> 00:50:15,670
don't have deer... We don't have winner range

1597
00:50:15,670 --> 00:50:16,949
up here. That's why we have a limit

1598
00:50:16,949 --> 00:50:18,550
to supply at meal. Mh. And we don't

1599
00:50:18,550 --> 00:50:20,878
have, like, download low... Yeah. The order brush

1600
00:50:20,878 --> 00:50:21,855
fields. Gotcha.

1601
00:50:23,183 --> 00:50:24,296
Correct. Too much timber.

1602
00:50:26,919 --> 00:50:27,317
Gym.

1603
00:50:28,047 --> 00:50:28,923
II1

1604
00:50:28,923 --> 00:50:29,639
more question for you.

1605
00:50:31,151 --> 00:50:33,458
How many phones has your dad broker lost?

1606
00:50:35,527 --> 00:50:37,014
So many. They just drop out of the

1607
00:50:37,134 --> 00:50:38,247
car and then oh, crack.

1608
00:50:39,043 --> 00:50:39,282
Oh,

1609
00:50:39,918 --> 00:50:41,190
he's gone through so many phones.

1610
00:50:42,224 --> 00:50:43,259
My mom's gone through, like,

1611
00:50:44,706 --> 00:50:47,489
2 or 3. Like, she only gets a

1612
00:50:47,489 --> 00:50:49,318
new phone when that phone doesn't work anymore.

1613
00:50:49,556 --> 00:50:51,783
My dad just like, oh, dropped this phone

1614
00:50:51,783 --> 00:50:53,553
to it. Like, last year he dropped his

1615
00:50:53,553 --> 00:50:54,672
phone into the lake.

1616
00:50:56,031 --> 00:50:57,330
And which

1617
00:50:58,109 --> 00:50:59,947
he's... I need that phone. I need to

1618
00:50:59,947 --> 00:51:01,705
make some important calls and be, like, try,

1619
00:51:01,865 --> 00:51:04,039
like, searching down there and, yeah, he basically.

1620
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:06,039
At least the nice thing about phones today

1621
00:51:06,039 --> 00:51:08,119
is everything just kinda transferred Acr remember we

1622
00:51:08,119 --> 00:51:10,534
were getting, like, the first iphone or the

1623
00:51:10,534 --> 00:51:12,449
flip phone or the Nokia and shit where

1624
00:51:12,449 --> 00:51:14,206
you... You were just asked out. You had

1625
00:51:14,206 --> 00:51:16,520
to re input everybody's name, where re put

1626
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:18,276
all their phone numbers back in all that

1627
00:51:18,276 --> 00:51:20,047
shit. And then they had some cables and

1628
00:51:20,047 --> 00:51:22,360
some little doo ads that would transfer shit.

1629
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,674
Now it's just clicking. Yeah. Your phone is

1630
00:51:24,674 --> 00:51:24,994
replicated.

1631
00:51:25,712 --> 00:51:26,190
No problem.

1632
00:51:26,922 --> 00:51:28,675
So I let Jim my Bt.

1633
00:51:29,392 --> 00:51:30,188
But yeah.

1634
00:51:30,905 --> 00:51:32,897
And I guess get it back from him,

1635
00:51:33,853 --> 00:51:34,649
and there's some issues.

1636
00:51:35,859 --> 00:51:36,497
I told you that.

1637
00:51:37,614 --> 00:51:38,172
I dropped it.

1638
00:51:39,369 --> 00:51:42,343
Do you just drop it. So he bent

1639
00:51:42,561 --> 00:51:44,974
both... Of the eye cups eye.

1640
00:51:45,534 --> 00:51:46,894
Okay. It is on a 95.

1641
00:51:47,295 --> 00:51:48,414
Oh, shit. At t x.

1642
00:51:49,135 --> 00:51:51,534
There's no scope cap anymore. Either there's no

1643
00:51:51,534 --> 00:51:53,944
scope cover at the front anymore. And there's

1644
00:51:53,944 --> 00:51:55,619
this big... I don't know if I told

1645
00:51:55,699 --> 00:51:58,092
Him this there's this big slit in the

1646
00:51:58,092 --> 00:51:58,650
front glass.

1647
00:51:59,447 --> 00:52:01,122
So I just send it all the sw.

1648
00:52:01,362 --> 00:52:01,681
U.

1649
00:52:02,334 --> 00:52:03,074
And they

1650
00:52:03,532 --> 00:52:05,687
sent me a message back and they're not.

1651
00:52:05,847 --> 00:52:08,322
They're pretty professional, but basically, they said, I

1652
00:52:08,322 --> 00:52:09,599
broke every lens but 1.

1653
00:52:12,248 --> 00:52:14,243
Face every lens but 1 inside the beach

1654
00:52:14,243 --> 00:52:15,380
x 95

1655
00:52:15,997 --> 00:52:18,151
system has to be replaced. And did they

1656
00:52:18,151 --> 00:52:20,065
fix it all? They fix it and Jim,

1657
00:52:20,224 --> 00:52:22,474
you know, I told Jim charge to charged

1658
00:52:22,474 --> 00:52:24,474
it up. Fix it. No problem. Okay. They

1659
00:52:24,474 --> 00:52:25,914
charge you to fix it. Oh, yeah. They

1660
00:52:25,914 --> 00:52:27,675
charge. How much damage are we talking about

1661
00:52:27,675 --> 00:52:29,535
here? 900 bones. Oh.

1662
00:52:30,645 --> 00:52:31,598
Ami at June. Yeah.

1663
00:52:32,472 --> 00:52:34,377
Yeah. Yeah at least you got fresh glass

1664
00:52:34,377 --> 00:52:36,283
out of the deal. Yeah. It's pretty fresh.

1665
00:52:36,918 --> 00:52:39,002
What you notice he keeps j me about

1666
00:52:39,002 --> 00:52:40,460
brown it again. Yeah.

1667
00:52:41,715 --> 00:52:43,151
Well now the glasses do we can see

1668
00:52:43,151 --> 00:52:44,906
better. Yeah. Maybe that, maybe he did your

1669
00:52:44,906 --> 00:52:47,553
favor. Yeah... I'm updated now. There you go.

1670
00:52:49,227 --> 00:52:49,546
Yeah.

1671
00:52:50,583 --> 00:52:52,576
What happened? What happened to those things? Well,

1672
00:52:52,735 --> 00:52:54,744
I went up, you know, how Been... Know

1673
00:52:54,744 --> 00:52:56,338
don't I have those slick tripod pods. I

1674
00:52:56,338 --> 00:52:57,455
went through quite a few though, You don't,

1675
00:52:57,774 --> 00:52:59,608
the leg break, why I when the legs

1676
00:52:59,608 --> 00:53:00,405
go floppy on me.

1677
00:53:01,123 --> 00:53:02,239
It I was on this I was on

1678
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:04,643
the glass on these rocks. You, it'll probably,

1679
00:53:04,722 --> 00:53:06,706
like, 20 feet down. Anyways, those glass on

1680
00:53:06,706 --> 00:53:07,103
the rock,

1681
00:53:07,738 --> 00:53:09,802
you know, for familiar in a, when of

1682
00:53:09,802 --> 00:53:10,992
the legs won't flop up, you know that

1683
00:53:10,992 --> 00:53:13,885
thing's, pop heavy. Yeah. That they heavy. Yeah.

1684
00:53:14,125 --> 00:53:16,204
It they just flipped My gosh. Does he

1685
00:53:16,204 --> 00:53:17,965
get, like, the 06:24 out there with a

1686
00:53:17,965 --> 00:53:20,780
fucking 15 pounds set on top? 06:34. I

1687
00:53:20,780 --> 00:53:21,839
think 6.

1688
00:53:23,339 --> 00:53:23,839
Yeah

1689
00:53:24,940 --> 00:53:27,820
harder for. All fucking cumbersome. Yeah. The reason

1690
00:53:27,820 --> 00:53:29,505
you like Slick the because Slick has, like,

1691
00:53:29,585 --> 00:53:32,360
a guarantee basically warranty. I I've had I've

1692
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:34,026
had fix a couple 06:30 fours. And if

1693
00:53:34,026 --> 00:53:35,691
you crack 1 of those legs, they just

1694
00:53:35,691 --> 00:53:37,376
fix it for you. Yeah. He did have

1695
00:53:37,376 --> 00:53:38,892
a leg took him forever to fix Yeah.

1696
00:53:39,131 --> 00:53:40,646
Oh, really. Yeah I Don't know it was

1697
00:53:40,646 --> 00:53:42,560
from the Covid stuff or wherever I never

1698
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:43,756
got it back. I took forever to get.

1699
00:53:43,916 --> 00:53:45,293
So I... It goes to California.

1700
00:53:46,324 --> 00:53:47,443
Well, they were saying they were missing some

1701
00:53:47,443 --> 00:53:48,822
parts from some like.

1702
00:53:49,281 --> 00:53:51,518
Okay. That's Always tell me and Robby have

1703
00:53:51,598 --> 00:53:54,395
Jim stories because Robby known Jim Long I

1704
00:53:54,395 --> 00:53:57,126
have. And Robbie Says, Jim Jim could fuck

1705
00:53:57,126 --> 00:53:57,686
up an an.

1706
00:53:59,123 --> 00:54:00,402
Well, I think it's fine too because... When

1707
00:54:00,561 --> 00:54:02,413
I first started out with you. We get

1708
00:54:02,413 --> 00:54:04,645
a bed of this spot, and Ryan's like

1709
00:54:04,645 --> 00:54:06,478
walking all over in these circles And I

1710
00:54:06,478 --> 00:54:07,515
said, what the fuck you do he goes,

1711
00:54:07,594 --> 00:54:08,391
it's the circle of gym.

1712
00:54:09,109 --> 00:54:11,438
How about lose it. I didn't know you

1713
00:54:11,438 --> 00:54:13,675
at the time. Right the, you know, it

1714
00:54:13,675 --> 00:54:15,833
all kind of cave to fruition after a

1715
00:54:15,833 --> 00:54:17,671
while. We we learned what the circle of

1716
00:54:17,671 --> 00:54:19,363
agenda was. But Jim is... 1 of the

1717
00:54:19,363 --> 00:54:21,359
best scouting hunting people that I've ever met.

1718
00:54:21,838 --> 00:54:23,514
He's also got the worst case of Edd

1719
00:54:23,594 --> 00:54:25,590
I've ever met. Mh. Yeah. So it's it's

1720
00:54:25,590 --> 00:54:26,149
part of the deal.

1721
00:54:28,478 --> 00:54:30,227
Well, we run into an hour. You guys

1722
00:54:30,227 --> 00:54:31,261
have any... Do you have any more questions,

1723
00:54:31,420 --> 00:54:31,499
Jake?

1724
00:54:33,487 --> 00:54:34,839
Well, I get... We we did talk about,

1725
00:54:34,998 --> 00:54:36,588
so we pretty much covered how to scout

1726
00:54:36,588 --> 00:54:38,074
for for that tag and

1727
00:54:38,433 --> 00:54:39,868
What about... Do you ever do any east

1728
00:54:39,868 --> 00:54:42,260
scouting? Yeah. Definitely I'm old do. Yeah yeah.

1729
00:54:42,419 --> 00:54:43,854
So I do. I like, I mean, Have

1730
00:54:43,854 --> 00:54:46,086
a, like, during off season? No. I...

1731
00:54:46,819 --> 00:54:48,415
I'm obsessed with it, you know, like, they'll

1732
00:54:48,415 --> 00:54:50,968
always looking for spots, but you gotta... Like,

1733
00:54:51,128 --> 00:54:52,643
you can't just find a spot on the

1734
00:54:52,643 --> 00:54:55,371
gale East Scouting. Mh. And you gotta you

1735
00:54:55,371 --> 00:54:57,127
gotta kinda correlate that with the country you

1736
00:54:57,127 --> 00:54:58,804
actually see, You know? If you can look

1737
00:54:58,804 --> 00:55:01,038
at Google or whatever all Day on? Mh.

1738
00:55:01,198 --> 00:55:03,448
And then until you can... Unless you you'd

1739
00:55:03,448 --> 00:55:05,204
already know the country, you know what the

1740
00:55:05,204 --> 00:55:07,039
what the drain you know what, you know,

1741
00:55:07,119 --> 00:55:09,195
what you're looking at. And so I mean,

1742
00:55:09,275 --> 00:55:11,030
it's a good tool. Mh. The least you

1743
00:55:11,030 --> 00:55:12,724
know what... You know, what it kinda looks

1744
00:55:12,724 --> 00:55:14,244
like. But until you go in there and

1745
00:55:14,244 --> 00:55:15,764
you go, okay, this brush. I'm looking at.

1746
00:55:16,005 --> 00:55:17,364
This is what I'm looking at. I've seen

1747
00:55:17,364 --> 00:55:19,204
areas that, you know, it'll look great on

1748
00:55:19,284 --> 00:55:20,619
Google Earth and you go to them under

1749
00:55:20,739 --> 00:55:22,811
Oh, yeah. The just a drain don't use,

1750
00:55:22,970 --> 00:55:25,041
you know? Yeah. So it's it's it's just

1751
00:55:25,041 --> 00:55:26,635
it's a good tool though. But it it

1752
00:55:26,635 --> 00:55:28,324
helps you eliminate a lot of countries. Like,

1753
00:55:28,403 --> 00:55:30,318
in this situation, if I... You know, if

1754
00:55:30,477 --> 00:55:31,833
I hired you to go Scout out for

1755
00:55:31,833 --> 00:55:33,907
this tag, for example, are you... You're just

1756
00:55:33,907 --> 00:55:35,661
gonna rely on your local knowledge at the

1757
00:55:35,661 --> 00:55:37,097
moment, or you're gonna do East out East

1758
00:55:37,097 --> 00:55:39,903
out East county first because, like, a a

1759
00:55:39,903 --> 00:55:41,260
lot of, you know, they're they're getting more.

1760
00:55:41,499 --> 00:55:43,493
Man. It's... I kinda don't like it. Yeah.

1761
00:55:43,732 --> 00:55:45,965
Be it because then it loves everybody else

1762
00:55:45,965 --> 00:55:47,720
to have you amazing and stuff, but... Yeah.

1763
00:55:48,215 --> 00:55:49,574
They're coming out with new features all the

1764
00:55:49,574 --> 00:55:51,574
time, you know, like, you know, like, all

1765
00:55:51,574 --> 00:55:54,135
this lidar shit and... Yeah. Well, new features,

1766
00:55:54,295 --> 00:55:55,094
you know, you're able to see,

1767
00:55:55,735 --> 00:55:57,426
you know, you you know, more real time,

1768
00:55:57,585 --> 00:55:59,818
you know, closer to the actual year, you

1769
00:55:59,818 --> 00:56:02,210
don't in in and with the. Mean, like

1770
00:56:02,210 --> 00:56:04,045
the images and stuff are refreshed more often.

1771
00:56:04,284 --> 00:56:05,400
Yeah. And then you got, you know, like,

1772
00:56:05,813 --> 00:56:07,806
until you get more refreshed in images, like,

1773
00:56:07,965 --> 00:56:08,762
say a burn burns.

1774
00:56:10,036 --> 00:56:11,630
And a lot of times, you, before, you

1775
00:56:11,630 --> 00:56:12,927
might not be able to see it

1776
00:56:13,399 --> 00:56:14,916
even a couple years ago, you couldn't you

1777
00:56:14,916 --> 00:56:16,432
wouldn't know what the burn looked like? You

1778
00:56:16,432 --> 00:56:18,428
might know what burnt, You know, Like, he's

1779
00:56:18,428 --> 00:56:20,025
looking on Onyx and it shows... Oh hey,

1780
00:56:20,184 --> 00:56:21,461
there was a fire in this area. U.

1781
00:56:21,621 --> 00:56:23,072
But until you act she go physically see

1782
00:56:23,072 --> 00:56:24,986
it. You don't really know until it refresh.

1783
00:56:25,225 --> 00:56:27,320
You can even pay for a fresh skin

1784
00:56:27,458 --> 00:56:29,612
now. You can pick an area. Right? Ryan?

1785
00:56:29,931 --> 00:56:32,257
You so Mark say, Mark say? Yep. We

1786
00:56:32,257 --> 00:56:34,084
did a whole podcast on East County The

1787
00:56:34,084 --> 00:56:35,831
saying, basically, you can pick this area. You

1788
00:56:35,831 --> 00:56:37,816
can literally pay for a live satellite up

1789
00:56:37,816 --> 00:56:39,404
feet of that of that area. Yeah. So

1790
00:56:39,404 --> 00:56:40,833
it it just allows it a lot more.

1791
00:56:41,231 --> 00:56:42,920
So is a bit definitely a good tool

1792
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:44,755
that be kinda wasting a lot of

1793
00:56:45,154 --> 00:56:46,351
miles on if you didn't have.

1794
00:56:47,069 --> 00:56:48,106
When I start a Scout,

1795
00:56:49,317 --> 00:56:50,831
well, I've been when I I kinda I

1796
00:56:50,831 --> 00:56:52,743
got stuff scouting early. You know? It...

1797
00:56:53,619 --> 00:56:55,133
It was all about map. I had maps.

1798
00:56:55,293 --> 00:56:57,284
There no there were no images. No. And

1799
00:56:57,284 --> 00:56:58,001
then I remember...

1800
00:56:58,654 --> 00:57:00,332
Okay. I think this basin is gonna be

1801
00:57:00,332 --> 00:57:01,931
open here or this is gonna base and

1802
00:57:01,931 --> 00:57:03,369
kinda looking and you just have to go

1803
00:57:03,369 --> 00:57:04,647
go freaking and hiking in here and go

1804
00:57:04,647 --> 00:57:07,298
see. You might be just disappointed. This disappointed

1805
00:57:07,298 --> 00:57:08,974
a lot, You know, hawk that's crap. Ain't

1806
00:57:08,974 --> 00:57:10,332
gonna see nothing there then you get to...

1807
00:57:11,050 --> 00:57:13,126
You know, so so now it's just got

1808
00:57:13,126 --> 00:57:15,462
better easier and easier for everybody, which

1809
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:17,932
it it... It's... I I guess it's good

1810
00:57:17,932 --> 00:57:19,131
for a as a whole, but, you know,

1811
00:57:19,291 --> 00:57:21,048
for individuals to shine out. I think it's,

1812
00:57:21,129 --> 00:57:22,887
you know, the gaps closing. Yep. You know?

1813
00:57:23,046 --> 00:57:25,455
Yep. Onyx is showing more you know, access

1814
00:57:25,455 --> 00:57:27,047
points. You guys were able to shoot further.

1815
00:57:27,446 --> 00:57:29,697
Yep. And then just, like, access points that

1816
00:57:29,914 --> 00:57:31,905
you had to, like, kinda figure out on

1817
00:57:31,905 --> 00:57:34,067
your own before, now you could pretty much

1818
00:57:34,067 --> 00:57:35,655
look at Onyx and, oh, hey. I can

1819
00:57:35,655 --> 00:57:36,688
get in here. I can get in here.

1820
00:57:36,847 --> 00:57:38,514
I can get in here, You know, And

1821
00:57:38,514 --> 00:57:39,626
it makes it... You know, just a lot

1822
00:57:39,626 --> 00:57:42,350
easier for the, more casual guys than

1823
00:57:42,819 --> 00:57:43,139
Yeah.

1824
00:57:44,176 --> 00:57:46,492
Don't only... Jim Kid, He he would rival,

1825
00:57:46,651 --> 00:57:48,088
Mark let say and what he does Es.

1826
00:57:48,487 --> 00:57:50,403
Bet. He'd, like, what lot of the stuff

1827
00:57:50,403 --> 00:57:51,760
that I watched and got.

1828
00:57:52,332 --> 00:57:55,032
From his east scouting marks east scouting, class

1829
00:57:55,112 --> 00:57:58,289
Jim's already. Nobody. He's pretty nerdy. Yeah. I'm...

1830
00:57:59,003 --> 00:58:00,036
1 of the things like, when I was

1831
00:58:00,036 --> 00:58:01,227
out in the. Did I'd be sitting on

1832
00:58:01,227 --> 00:58:03,073
your front. Could sit on looking at maps

1833
00:58:03,073 --> 00:58:04,427
or Google or I could sit on there

1834
00:58:04,427 --> 00:58:06,977
for, like, hour. Like, it doesn't like it's

1835
00:58:06,977 --> 00:58:08,650
like, fun. But what you show, like you

1836
00:58:08,650 --> 00:58:10,083
show me something send me something like, like

1837
00:58:10,083 --> 00:58:12,167
a video gave I is I'm like, hey.

1838
00:58:12,485 --> 00:58:13,756
What is just route? I measure ralph. Okay.

1839
00:58:13,994 --> 00:58:14,869
Oh, that would be a cool way to

1840
00:58:14,869 --> 00:58:15,107
get up there.

1841
00:58:15,902 --> 00:58:17,411
You know? What's funny about Jim is, like,

1842
00:58:17,491 --> 00:58:18,683
the tools that he showed me be like,

1843
00:58:18,842 --> 00:58:20,208
I... He would send me someone like Well,

1844
00:58:20,288 --> 00:58:21,799
what the fuck is that? Yeah. So then

1845
00:58:22,038 --> 00:58:23,549
Go like, he's walt's right there and Go

1846
00:58:23,549 --> 00:58:25,140
figure that out and I'm like, damn. So

1847
00:58:25,140 --> 00:58:26,811
you'd have spent hours.

1848
00:58:27,464 --> 00:58:29,781
As on Google earth. Mh. Yep. Definitely When

1849
00:58:29,861 --> 00:58:31,379
I'm when I'm when I was away from

1850
00:58:31,778 --> 00:58:33,536
you know, like an, like, not able to

1851
00:58:33,536 --> 00:58:34,735
scout physically, Be.

1852
00:58:35,468 --> 00:58:37,700
Okay. I'm wanted... That's... I guess the the

1853
00:58:37,700 --> 00:58:39,773
strong point to Adhd is, like, you can

1854
00:58:39,773 --> 00:58:40,969
focus on certain things that you like to.

1855
00:58:41,208 --> 00:58:42,722
Everything else kinda like, falls the away wayside.

1856
00:58:45,203 --> 00:58:48,142
Extremely focused at 1. Yeah. My last my

1857
00:58:48,142 --> 00:58:49,731
last question for you, Annabel. Mh.

1858
00:58:50,605 --> 00:58:52,923
I have a daughter that is is a

1859
00:58:52,923 --> 00:58:55,089
similar age to you, and I'm curious,

1860
00:58:56,969 --> 00:58:58,318
do you know what you wanna do for

1861
00:58:58,318 --> 00:58:59,923
a living when you grow up, I mean

1862
00:58:59,923 --> 00:59:01,599
this at at this age of 16, you

1863
00:59:01,599 --> 00:59:03,196
gotta realize that the world's approaching you pretty

1864
00:59:03,196 --> 00:59:04,952
quickly. Yeah. I'm sure your dad's preparing you

1865
00:59:04,952 --> 00:59:07,107
in his own way. But do you see

1866
00:59:07,107 --> 00:59:07,607
yourself

1867
00:59:07,985 --> 00:59:08,039
like

1868
00:59:08,954 --> 00:59:11,578
in today's, like, not being able to afford

1869
00:59:11,578 --> 00:59:13,486
a house, that kind of thing, focusing on

1870
00:59:13,486 --> 00:59:15,076
college, trying not to pay too much for

1871
00:59:15,076 --> 00:59:16,428
college, trying to get a scholarship and all

1872
00:59:16,428 --> 00:59:17,302
that. Do you see yourself?

1873
00:59:17,953 --> 00:59:18,931
Staying at home

1874
00:59:19,307 --> 00:59:20,739
for an extended period of time? I mean,

1875
00:59:20,899 --> 00:59:22,411
more than the age of 18, let's say?

1876
00:59:22,650 --> 00:59:24,242
Or do you have an idea of what

1877
00:59:24,242 --> 00:59:25,538
you wanna do for a living

1878
00:59:25,929 --> 00:59:27,679
I... What what what is it? What does

1879
00:59:27,679 --> 00:59:28,792
it? What does it look like in a

1880
00:59:28,792 --> 00:59:30,780
16 year old girl's brain? I don't know.

1881
00:59:31,019 --> 00:59:31,258
I...

1882
00:59:33,024 --> 00:59:34,699
I don't, a lot of kids. I don't

1883
00:59:34,778 --> 00:59:36,055
I don't know my age wanna move out

1884
00:59:36,055 --> 00:59:37,809
and there ready to go and be on

1885
00:59:37,809 --> 00:59:39,963
their own. But I'm really not. Like, I,

1886
00:59:40,122 --> 00:59:42,117
like, love being at home and stuff like

1887
00:59:42,117 --> 00:59:42,276
that.

1888
00:59:42,929 --> 00:59:44,918
But I've been asking my mom Like, what

1889
00:59:44,918 --> 00:59:46,111
should I do when I grew up? I

1890
00:59:46,111 --> 00:59:47,623
just can't figure it out because I'm just

1891
00:59:47,623 --> 00:59:47,782
like,

1892
00:59:48,498 --> 00:59:50,822
I... I'm not a big school person, so

1893
00:59:50,822 --> 00:59:52,335
anything that I do is gonna have to

1894
00:59:52,335 --> 00:59:54,007
be something like, I have a little bit

1895
00:59:54,007 --> 00:59:56,338
of 80 issue that my dad has. So

1896
00:59:56,555 --> 00:59:58,226
I, like, have a hard time focusing on

1897
00:59:58,226 --> 00:59:58,465
things.

1898
00:59:59,038 --> 00:59:59,515
Okay. A lot.

1899
01:00:00,550 --> 01:00:01,823
I have a hard time focusing on things

1900
01:00:01,823 --> 01:00:04,131
that I don't really necessarily care about. So

1901
01:00:04,290 --> 01:00:06,041
I feel like if whatever I do, I...

1902
01:00:06,121 --> 01:00:07,235
It's gonna be have to be something I

1903
01:00:07,235 --> 01:00:09,161
really love to do. Because if it's not,

1904
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:10,993
I don't think I'm gonna be able to

1905
01:00:10,993 --> 01:00:13,622
perfect it or even try. And so that's

1906
01:00:13,622 --> 01:00:15,454
why I'm just... I've been, like, running through,

1907
01:00:15,534 --> 01:00:16,888
like, what kind of things am I good

1908
01:00:16,888 --> 01:00:18,500
at that I could... Du for a career.

1909
01:00:18,739 --> 01:00:20,980
Mh. I just can't. You don't know yet.

1910
01:00:21,139 --> 01:00:22,500
No. I don't. Wow.

1911
01:00:22,980 --> 01:00:24,579
Well, let's say that you get a scholarship

1912
01:00:24,579 --> 01:00:26,512
and you go run track it, at Oregon

1913
01:00:26,512 --> 01:00:28,426
state for 4 years and you do fantastic,

1914
01:00:28,586 --> 01:00:28,825
and then,

1915
01:00:29,862 --> 01:00:31,297
you know, you leave but you well, obviously,

1916
01:00:31,378 --> 01:00:32,973
you gotta pick... You gotta pick some point

1917
01:00:32,973 --> 01:00:34,488
of direction when you go to college. Right?

1918
01:00:34,648 --> 01:00:36,970
Like, you gotta point at teaching or pointed

1919
01:00:36,970 --> 01:00:38,478
at this or that and I think I

1920
01:00:38,478 --> 01:00:39,034
wanna get, like,

1921
01:00:39,748 --> 01:00:41,574
something for business. Like, I either wanna own

1922
01:00:41,574 --> 01:00:43,796
my own business. Mh. Or I don't know.

1923
01:00:44,034 --> 01:00:44,193
Like,

1924
01:00:45,003 --> 01:00:46,753
definitely a business because my dad owns a

1925
01:00:46,753 --> 01:00:48,741
business, and it's like, I know it can

1926
01:00:48,741 --> 01:00:50,650
be stressful sometimes, but it seems kinda nice

1927
01:00:50,650 --> 01:00:51,150
to

1928
01:00:51,859 --> 01:00:53,930
be able to control your own, you know,

1929
01:00:54,169 --> 01:00:55,842
what you do instead of being stuck onto

1930
01:00:55,842 --> 01:00:56,661
somebody else's

1931
01:00:57,117 --> 01:00:58,471
at, like, hours or whatever,

1932
01:00:58,964 --> 01:01:00,081
Well, you're kind of in a room of

1933
01:01:00,081 --> 01:01:01,758
business owners at the moment. So... Yeah. So...

1934
01:01:02,077 --> 01:01:04,152
It is it's a whole another world than

1935
01:01:04,152 --> 01:01:05,909
a than a 9 to 5 for somebody

1936
01:01:05,909 --> 01:01:08,717
else. Yeah. It definitely becomes addict. Like, imagine

1937
01:01:08,717 --> 01:01:09,754
the 3 of us. Probably I don't wanna

1938
01:01:09,754 --> 01:01:11,349
go work for nobody else anymore once you

1939
01:01:11,349 --> 01:01:13,661
do your own thing. Yeah. Employ. Yeah. It

1940
01:01:13,661 --> 01:01:16,134
is. It is a lot of fucking... It's

1941
01:01:16,134 --> 01:01:17,330
a it's a shit ton of work.

1942
01:01:17,984 --> 01:01:18,543
It can be

1943
01:01:19,342 --> 01:01:21,819
it can feel un rewarding it sometimes and

1944
01:01:21,819 --> 01:01:23,337
the stress level can go through the roof,

1945
01:01:23,497 --> 01:01:25,668
but I don't think I'd have any... You

1946
01:01:25,668 --> 01:01:27,339
gotta be the certain type of person to

1947
01:01:27,339 --> 01:01:28,851
be cut out for it. There are people

1948
01:01:28,851 --> 01:01:29,351
that

1949
01:01:29,885 --> 01:01:31,795
can't handle that level the stress or hours

1950
01:01:31,795 --> 01:01:33,227
worked and things like that. But if you're

1951
01:01:33,227 --> 01:01:35,074
tough like your dad. Sure you'd be. I'm

1952
01:01:35,074 --> 01:01:36,829
sure you be just finding nothing else more

1953
01:01:36,829 --> 01:01:38,744
rewarding though, you know, as as a whole

1954
01:01:38,744 --> 01:01:40,420
as as having your own thing. Yeah. Like,

1955
01:01:40,500 --> 01:01:41,936
my when my dad used to work for,

1956
01:01:42,016 --> 01:01:44,096
like... Like, the oil company, like, when he

1957
01:01:44,096 --> 01:01:45,922
was on, like, 2 weeks on 2 weeks

1958
01:01:45,922 --> 01:01:47,986
off. It was really hard, like, he was

1959
01:01:47,986 --> 01:01:50,704
obviously working for someone or, like, for this

1960
01:01:50,704 --> 01:01:52,542
place. And what as soon as he switched

1961
01:01:52,542 --> 01:01:54,859
over, like, I I know there's been stressful

1962
01:01:54,859 --> 01:01:56,937
times, but it's been a lot better. Like,

1963
01:01:57,177 --> 01:01:58,295
I've been able to see my dad a

1964
01:01:58,295 --> 01:02:00,146
lot more, like, He's just been around a

1965
01:02:00,146 --> 01:02:01,023
lot more and

1966
01:02:01,581 --> 01:02:03,734
it's stressful sometimes time, but the same time

1967
01:02:03,734 --> 01:02:05,728
it's not. Because when you wanna wanna go

1968
01:02:05,728 --> 01:02:07,003
to... When you wanna go on a trip,

1969
01:02:07,163 --> 01:02:08,771
you don't have to, like, be like, well,

1970
01:02:08,930 --> 01:02:10,442
I have to go do this. You can.

1971
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:11,555
I don't know. You can kinda find your

1972
01:02:11,555 --> 01:02:13,862
way around it. And so it's been kinda

1973
01:02:13,862 --> 01:02:15,691
cool to watch my dad go from working

1974
01:02:15,691 --> 01:02:18,500
for someone to having his own business, and

1975
01:02:18,500 --> 01:02:20,820
it's encouraging. So Yeah. Makes me wanna have

1976
01:02:20,820 --> 01:02:23,219
my own business too. So another aspect of

1977
01:02:23,219 --> 01:02:25,219
it. Aubrey was glad that I had my

1978
01:02:25,219 --> 01:02:26,260
own business because

1979
01:02:26,912 --> 01:02:28,426
I could go to all of her sporting

1980
01:02:28,426 --> 01:02:30,816
events. That's big thing. And people underestimate that

1981
01:02:30,816 --> 01:02:33,307
too. Oh, yeah. The the kids have...

1982
01:02:34,003 --> 01:02:35,969
Across country stuff has been

1983
01:02:36,409 --> 01:02:37,768
insane amount. There was no... I would miss...

1984
01:02:38,007 --> 01:02:38,747
I would missed

1985
01:02:39,366 --> 01:02:41,204
2 thirds of their meats, you know? And...

1986
01:02:41,524 --> 01:02:42,722
Because you were working 2 weeks on 2

1987
01:02:42,722 --> 01:02:44,800
weeks off? Yeah. And and... And even when

1988
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:46,970
I was working you know, construction. You know?

1989
01:02:47,688 --> 01:02:49,362
I mean, that would be even last, you

1990
01:02:49,362 --> 01:02:50,877
know, there... So there is, you know,

1991
01:02:51,913 --> 01:02:53,507
I I make it a point... Because I'm

1992
01:02:53,507 --> 01:02:54,007
kinda,

1993
01:02:54,639 --> 01:02:56,559
I basically take their, like, their sports almost

1994
01:02:56,559 --> 01:02:58,480
as an investment, You know, I'm not gonna...

1995
01:02:59,119 --> 01:03:00,319
III

1996
01:03:00,319 --> 01:03:02,400
put it as a high priority my, you

1997
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:03,199
life, so I'm not gonna...

1998
01:03:04,094 --> 01:03:05,844
So I I do make sure I make

1999
01:03:05,844 --> 01:03:06,639
those things happen,

2000
01:03:07,594 --> 01:03:09,264
where I had no control over that before,

2001
01:03:09,821 --> 01:03:10,139
you know?

2002
01:03:11,429 --> 01:03:13,027
Well said, we wanna to. If you ever

2003
01:03:13,027 --> 01:03:14,626
if you ever wanna come have the life,

2004
01:03:15,025 --> 01:03:16,624
you know, live live a few days in

2005
01:03:16,624 --> 01:03:17,983
the life of a business owner, I'm sure

2006
01:03:17,983 --> 01:03:18,862
you can do this shit with your dad,

2007
01:03:19,021 --> 01:03:21,193
be welcome to come around here or hang

2008
01:03:21,193 --> 01:03:22,868
on with Ryan and myself and see what

2009
01:03:22,868 --> 01:03:24,543
it takes to. Oh, yeah. That'd be awesome.

2010
01:03:24,782 --> 01:03:26,695
I love that. Yeah. He way under than

2011
01:03:26,695 --> 01:03:29,327
roof or she rocking. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Probably

2012
01:03:29,327 --> 01:03:31,972
she probably quitting. Does she... That's right? Be

2013
01:03:31,972 --> 01:03:32,632
that's why.

2014
01:03:33,009 --> 01:03:34,205
That's last she said she could come hang

2015
01:03:34,205 --> 01:03:35,799
out, it makes some guns and shit or,

2016
01:03:35,879 --> 01:03:37,155
you know, you can come back in Sara

2017
01:03:37,155 --> 01:03:38,351
for a little while or whatever. We have

2018
01:03:38,844 --> 01:03:40,515
we got another young lady your named Emily,

2019
01:03:40,674 --> 01:03:42,345
who comes and she works summers here in

2020
01:03:42,345 --> 01:03:44,573
the Circle department. So... That's cool. Yeah. You

2021
01:03:44,573 --> 01:03:46,722
can always hang out and see if it's

2022
01:03:46,722 --> 01:03:47,597
something you'd wanna do.

2023
01:03:48,328 --> 01:03:50,077
I wanna see in the Olympics. I know

2024
01:03:50,077 --> 01:03:51,826
that's. That would be awesome too. 4 years.

2025
01:03:52,065 --> 01:03:54,132
That's... So so she didn't say what she

2026
01:03:54,132 --> 01:03:55,881
wanna, but I know that's the only things.

2027
01:03:56,374 --> 01:03:58,206
To like, they're, like, in her brain, like,

2028
01:03:58,286 --> 01:03:59,640
she hasn't got past that. Like, yep. Oh,

2029
01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:01,473
I'm gonna run professionally. I no other there

2030
01:04:01,473 --> 01:04:02,190
ain't no other...

2031
01:04:02,827 --> 01:04:04,022
Thought you would say it, but that's what

2032
01:04:04,022 --> 01:04:05,217
cheap you at the moment. Yeah.

2033
01:04:06,108 --> 01:04:07,060
I don't wanna sound like I'm like oh,

2034
01:04:07,298 --> 01:04:09,283
I'm gonna... That that's literally, like, ever since

2035
01:04:09,362 --> 01:04:11,030
I started running. I wanna go to the

2036
01:04:11,188 --> 01:04:12,776
Olympics 1. I wanna be a professional runner.

2037
01:04:13,014 --> 01:04:14,682
Mh. Because it's 1 of those things. That's

2038
01:04:14,682 --> 01:04:16,050
like, yeah at first, it was a little

2039
01:04:16,050 --> 01:04:17,884
rocky, but when I got hooked onto it,

2040
01:04:18,043 --> 01:04:20,217
I love it now. Like each race, it's

2041
01:04:20,355 --> 01:04:22,108
hard, but, like, you just love the feeling.

2042
01:04:22,347 --> 01:04:24,192
You know? Mh. And when I started to

2043
01:04:24,192 --> 01:04:26,257
see progress, that's really when I started to...

2044
01:04:26,813 --> 01:04:28,164
I didn't used to be very good, but

2045
01:04:28,164 --> 01:04:29,991
as I see myself going up. It's just...

2046
01:04:30,402 --> 01:04:32,067
It's really cool. And I love it. That's

2047
01:04:32,067 --> 01:04:33,731
your fucking old. Don't let it go. Yeah.

2048
01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:36,741
And it's like, I get my... Sorry. My

2049
01:04:36,741 --> 01:04:38,507
my dad, like, you guys say he's, like,

2050
01:04:38,827 --> 01:04:41,141
obsessed, like, you know, like, looking for mountains

2051
01:04:41,141 --> 01:04:43,398
and stuff like that. He's, like, obsessed with

2052
01:04:43,855 --> 01:04:45,372
statistics or however you say it or whatever.

2053
01:04:45,692 --> 01:04:47,777
But anyways, he'll come out of, like, their

2054
01:04:47,777 --> 01:04:49,527
room who the okay, Got all these times.

2055
01:04:49,686 --> 01:04:51,914
He got he's gone through each person. Looked

2056
01:04:51,914 --> 01:04:53,679
at their times for the year. Yeah. A

2057
01:04:53,679 --> 01:04:55,191
pac pass. This is how fast you gotta

2058
01:04:55,191 --> 01:04:57,339
be to make it. Yes. He like, he

2059
01:04:57,339 --> 01:04:59,329
got it down like, he... Oh, my goodness.

2060
01:04:59,567 --> 01:05:01,238
It's crazy. Like, he won't he can't load

2061
01:05:01,238 --> 01:05:04,041
the dishwasher. Can't the clean up after himself

2062
01:05:04,041 --> 01:05:05,636
after he makes himself a sandwich, but he

2063
01:05:05,636 --> 01:05:07,391
can come out and tell us every single

2064
01:05:07,391 --> 01:05:08,747
time of the person that's gonna be in

2065
01:05:08,747 --> 01:05:11,140
my race. Nice. That's thought I love it

2066
01:05:11,140 --> 01:05:12,655
though. That's a dad's job. Yep.

2067
01:05:13,626 --> 01:05:15,059
I found out real quick with jim. He

2068
01:05:15,059 --> 01:05:17,288
is a numbers driven human. Mh.

2069
01:05:17,846 --> 01:05:19,119
He met he's a math.

2070
01:05:19,677 --> 01:05:20,234
Yeah. I know.

2071
01:05:21,363 --> 01:05:21,682
Nice.

2072
01:05:22,318 --> 01:05:23,752
Anything else any parting shots?

2073
01:05:24,389 --> 01:05:27,096
Yeah. So I guess, real quick on 1

2074
01:05:27,096 --> 01:05:28,688
of the things that, you know, to get

2075
01:05:28,688 --> 01:05:29,246
the girls?

2076
01:05:30,056 --> 01:05:31,726
I, you know, how... You, they all wanna

2077
01:05:31,726 --> 01:05:33,157
hunt with me and spend time. It was

2078
01:05:33,157 --> 01:05:33,316
kinda...

2079
01:05:34,031 --> 01:05:35,701
I I was thought when I was... I

2080
01:05:35,701 --> 01:05:38,104
grew up with 9 bra brothers. And so

2081
01:05:38,264 --> 01:05:39,543
I was thought, I'd have ways to go

2082
01:05:39,543 --> 01:05:41,541
hunting with and train for football. That. I

2083
01:05:41,541 --> 01:05:43,139
was... I love football when I was younger

2084
01:05:43,139 --> 01:05:45,376
and thought... So then that's where the training

2085
01:05:45,376 --> 01:05:46,835
for the track came in. But

2086
01:05:47,469 --> 01:05:49,143
I like, Anna bell. I involved her, like,

2087
01:05:49,302 --> 01:05:50,179
as soon as she could be on a

2088
01:05:50,179 --> 01:05:51,853
backpack. She was in she was going with

2089
01:05:51,853 --> 01:05:53,367
me in the mountains and just trying to

2090
01:05:53,367 --> 01:05:54,961
made it made it, like, the whole time

2091
01:05:54,961 --> 01:05:57,229
we... She was growing up with

2092
01:05:57,686 --> 01:05:59,199
making that at something that I want her

2093
01:05:59,199 --> 01:06:00,713
go do with me. You know, making it

2094
01:06:00,713 --> 01:06:01,909
fun, and we're just making her be out

2095
01:06:01,909 --> 01:06:03,838
there with me, not like, Oh, hey. When

2096
01:06:03,838 --> 01:06:05,035
you turn 10, we're gonna go honey. And

2097
01:06:05,035 --> 01:06:06,712
it was like, it was pretty much a

2098
01:06:06,712 --> 01:06:08,149
part of her role life going up, you

2099
01:06:08,149 --> 01:06:08,308
know?

2100
01:06:09,107 --> 01:06:10,863
So later, so she would she would see

2101
01:06:10,863 --> 01:06:12,220
me bring animal home, so she would wanna

2102
01:06:12,220 --> 01:06:14,142
go mess with the guts or whatever, you

2103
01:06:14,142 --> 01:06:16,547
know? So she she wasn't scared of anything

2104
01:06:16,682 --> 01:06:18,031
because she'd been around it a lot. You

2105
01:06:18,031 --> 01:06:19,460
know? Yeah. I made at a point they

2106
01:06:19,460 --> 01:06:21,144
have her go you know, with... Hey, well,

2107
01:06:21,223 --> 01:06:22,655
plan with guts could make or break a

2108
01:06:22,655 --> 01:06:24,564
hunter, I guess. If you're afraid of blood

2109
01:06:24,564 --> 01:06:26,473
or a afraid of organs, you know, that

2110
01:06:26,473 --> 01:06:26,973
could

2111
01:06:27,364 --> 01:06:28,240
I could mess it up for you other.

2112
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:29,355
I said I wanna be a surgeon. And

2113
01:06:29,355 --> 01:06:30,869
my mom's like, are you... Like, I used

2114
01:06:30,869 --> 01:06:31,984
to say I'm like, I'm gonna be a

2115
01:06:31,984 --> 01:06:33,418
surgeon, like, a doctor. And my mom's like,

2116
01:06:33,498 --> 01:06:34,628
are you scared of that kind... Definitely like.

2117
01:06:34,866 --> 01:06:36,934
No. Yeah. Only problem would be the learning

2118
01:06:36,934 --> 01:06:39,082
part I think. Yeah. But I'm not scared

2119
01:06:39,082 --> 01:06:40,355
of any of that kind of stuff in.

2120
01:06:40,673 --> 01:06:41,867
I was a weird kid. I told my

2121
01:06:41,867 --> 01:06:43,868
parents. I wanted to be a friend. Pathologist

2122
01:06:43,868 --> 01:06:45,479
was basically doing eye top.

2123
01:06:46,010 --> 01:06:48,152
Yeah. I. That's shit. It doesn't mess them

2124
01:06:48,152 --> 01:06:49,579
yet at all. Yeah. Yeah.

2125
01:06:50,866 --> 01:06:52,617
Thanks for coming on. Yeah. Thank you. Appreciate

2126
01:06:52,617 --> 01:06:55,563
you guys. Yeah. Alright. Thanks, Listen. Alright. Thanks.