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What's your what's your Instagram handle?

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Oh god. Wild dash Idaho hope wild underscore

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Okay. So so recently, you did the scope

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drop test and you were? Yeah.

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I'm proud Dropped me some m. Did. So

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this

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to me that shared it. I was proud

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of them. It did well, it stirred some

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shit to me like, Reading man's doing that

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right like so people. There was a guy

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who said it was not ethical to drop

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my gut.

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What kind of fuck a deal doesn't think

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it's ethical

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your equipment So it's more ethical to have

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a shitty scope that doesn't work. That's lot

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just mains stone.

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Welcome.

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Thank you for joining us today on this

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session.

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I understand that your urges have been increasing

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dramatically,

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when it comes to shooting and killing things.

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Some may say it's comparable to

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Joe Biden urges

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fond the little ones.

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Can

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that is

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Rest assured because today we embark into the

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world of shooting and hunting,

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joining us now.

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Jake Bo

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and ryan avery.

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The host and then c host.

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We we had to explain what colored c

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was to Jake fun. His mind went dark

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quickly. We had to get it back on

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the road. This intro because, there's somebody here

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that loves killing. Yeah. In fact, has quotes

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about killing, and, dreams about it all fucking

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year long,

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mister DDA

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mu.

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Yep. Damn.

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Nailed it.

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Nice. It takes a while. Yeah. I then

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Joe Biden to talk about Joe. We just

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had Joe Biden, you know, on a debate.

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Sniffing them kids. Yeah. Sniffing kids.

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Anyways. I'm I'm proud to say he just

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got... He he wasn't even Trump, he fucked

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himself. Biden fucking himself. They're all full of

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shit. I like the part where Trump said

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he didn't even know he was He's like,

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I don't know. I don't what he said.

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I don't think he knows what when he

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said either. When he starts battling, he looks

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over at him I'm like, what the fuck

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is he guy he was even keeping a

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straight face though. Like, while he was double

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all over himself, I just fucking with the

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straight face. I only saw the parts that

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came into highlights on Instagram. Oh shit. Like

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pretty much Trump look forward the whole time,

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but when when that old Joe start Ba,

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he'd be like,

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what you talk about Willis?

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Not geez.

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We we know we were not. We are

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not good hosts because last time we offered

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him some whiskey. Yeah. But we know he

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doesn't drink. No. Dude... But We we even

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offer him some whiskey? That's true? Do you

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want some whiskey? III am on vacation.

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Really? What's up? Did I heard 1 where

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you guys talk about nobody ever takes the

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whiskey.

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Whiskey last time we On fuck. I'm gonna

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go. I'm gonna go find the ice. Hold

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Alright. You gotta do your getting pause or.

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No. No. We'll keep going.

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The funny thing is is we've probably had...

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What do we about, like, 70 podcasts jake?

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There's dust on them. 70, and I think

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you drink and the guy from wiser precision.

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Are, like, the only 2 people that have

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drinks since we've been in here. So everybody

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else is rude. Yeah.

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Yeah. It's pretty rude. Right. 1 of those

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up there is a big money bottle

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I don't know which 1 it is.

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We tried the... I think it was a

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Colonel Taylor with you last time? No. We're

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crown. Polish this 1? Yeah.

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Crown. I just wrecked. Oh, yeah Yeah. I

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mean, we I'll drink some crown with you.

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Yeah. I'm not fancy. Yeah. I mean, it's

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it's kinda fancy but

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not too fans. We

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we haven't had you what you on here

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about it a year ago. Was like, exactly

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a year ago. And what the rock stock

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wasn't even an existing was.

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the tee action machining wasn't a thing. I'm

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actually super impressed with how those came out.

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I think that podcast was actually the

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where I gave you guys the idea for

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that. Because me and my ward we some

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actions. Yeah. You

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and another dude on Rock slide always there's

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was a few people that did it. I

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definitely didn't come up with it on my

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own. No No. But it was Y and

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that sad, something Josh Sad maybe. I no

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idea. Had a light action that we came...

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That... That's what turned into it. Guys made

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it much much, much nicer. Did you get

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the nit right too? Yes.

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Oh, shit. Yeah. He... He when when Jake

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gets back on here, we has. We have

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to talk about a particular guy on rock

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slide that cracks me up. Thank you, sir.

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We're... We got into... Last time he was

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here above the ice. The right of the

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ice top. We got into... He was kind

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of the idea. Last time he was here

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about the lightning.

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Him and the guy sad. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

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Yeah. That's what we're was talking about. And

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I was talking about the...

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We bring up threads on rock slide. And

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I was, gonna bring up a thread. Well

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I wanna bring up the 1 that said

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the nit right sucked and wasn't slick which...

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I was gonna bring that up too. Which

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was the first time out of the 3

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actions that I have that I'd be, like,

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That guy gonna gun oil salesman and come

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my fuck on. It's fucking waste slick if

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you do your part. It's incredible. You can

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you could take 1 of your guys machine

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deck, which I have a machine action that's

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not not.

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I I fucking... I can't Did. I brought

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this 1 because it's about to be chamber

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with the bounce Interrupt. It's gonna have to

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be chamber with the barrel. So air all

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the guts are out. Right? Yeah. And you

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just... It it comic slick. Like, it feels

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smoother than a factory tee action that doesn't

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have anything done to it.

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Yeah. I don't... When he... When I was

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reading that, so

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people always think that I'm the nice guy

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and Jake's the asshole on this spot. I'm

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really the asshole and Jake is the nice

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Jack is also the hosts. Because I read

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this... Thread, and then I tell Jake and

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he's like, oh, he just emailed me. Yeah.

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And I'm like, you need to tell this

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guy. He's fucking retarded. Yep. And he's gonna

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know who he is. I don't really care.

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But I'm like, john that I read you

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my reply. Yeah. And Jake's diplomatic,

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and then form gets on there and says,

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hey.

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You might wanna put some fucking lube on

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the fucking thing. Yeah. I might wanna put

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a little bit of grease on that thing.

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I don't know, man. I've run mine dry

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and they are still just slick... Oh, I

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was the coffee mechanism, basically. Oh, okay. So

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brand new. We just put it back together

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and get get it. And of course, you

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know, just like any new rifle or any

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new thing on the fucking planet usually is

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something's a little stiff to start. Yeah. You

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know, and needs whatever. But I'm thinking advantages

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on machining like stuff wears in. Yeah. Yeah

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how michelle's make some oil on there and

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shit? The shit that me and rut? I

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mean, are you fucking serious dude? Like,

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flick.

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What's that a 10 5 degree? Not very

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steep.

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You can hear it. And I'm thinking to

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myself, either there's something wrong with this action.

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And that's what I told them. Yeah. There's

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there's... Because I'm thinking man mine are almost

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2 god damn slick. Mh. So I have

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seen some tee actions, prep way less than

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you guys, obviously, but

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some of them are not as slick as

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other. Like there no I agree this same.

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You talking just back? Well, Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

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In fact, we had a couple real rough

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ones at the shooting school here a couple

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weeks ago. I don't know if that was

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horrible conditions it was. I was. That sand

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was like, it was so abrasive and rough,

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and, like, it just... If if there was

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any any conditions that you could mess a

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gun up with. That was definitely. The second

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week with the rain was even worse. Yeah.

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Kicked up all that toll around that ship.

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So we pulled we pulled the guy's rifle.

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We brought 2 rifles back. 1 of them

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was complaining about feeding and and the 2

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threes are the most picky you about feeding.

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Yeah. They got a thumbnail to grab that

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shell. Keaton takes it, cleans everything up takes

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3 different mag and it's flawless feeding. With

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3 different t bags could not duplicate the

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problem? Didn't he shi it?

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And... I think they shi it up at

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the class. Oh, did they? Yeah. Yeah. I

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can test that it was not working at

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the class. So we had to be partly

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conditions because there were fucking problems with them.

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Yeah. And the thing that's funny and you

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talk about take actions that are different factory

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wise. I do notice because I have had

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quite a few stainless steel. You can get

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some, like, fucking

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chip, like, stainless steel, like, they have some

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fucking rough marks or something. Mh. But it

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works, you know, get 20000 rounds on it.

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Everything just works. Yeah. Yeah. They just fucking

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most people don't shoot 20000 rounds a whole.

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But I'm just saying the stainless can be

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worse than the blue at first.

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Oh, so before before we get too carried

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away, it actually kind of applies to the

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to the guys, you know, reaching out to

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you through Dms and then emailing me and

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complain all the shit. But I kinda wanna

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touch just for a few minutes. It made...

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It doesn't really apply to having here, but

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I'm sure you have input on this, but

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I wanted to

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just talk about small business for a second.

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Because I think it all applies the rock

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applies everything that we're doing.

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And,

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you know, like this guy, for example, when

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he has the problem with the action. Did

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he coulda have called Mh. And talk to

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me, like specifically, we could talked through the

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problem, but instead,

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he's posts a thread.

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He's Dm and you. He's emailing us.

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And the way these guys are emailing to

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try to get a problem so felt, like,

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All we wanna do is send out perfect

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shit. But everything's not gonna be perfect,

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but we are willing to do anything it

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takes to, like, help a customer right. And

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that's how I end of the email that

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I read you said,

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un no munitions will always do whatever it

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takes to make a customer happy? How could

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I make you happy Because he didn't really

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he didn't really complained about something specifically he

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was just whining. Mh You know? To be...

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Just so it's

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honestly, it's true. He didn't Dm me. That

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was a post on the thread. Okay. Okay.

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He didn't dm me about that action. Yep.

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But he jumps on a public forum. Oh,

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correct. Yep. To complain about the issues having

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with 1 of our products. We'll, take that

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to another level is there so much

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hearsay

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bullshit on the rock stock that you've... I

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came to you and I said, hey, they

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said this came out of this came out

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unknown and this came out unknown. And you're

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like, no. That, you know, distance... So anyways,

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you went in and kinda cleaned that up

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that There's a lot of bullshit that's not

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true on that 3 people are just taking

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information and false information and running with it.

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But at the same time, I also admitted

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that they could potentially get false information from

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1 of my people because we have 20

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people, 20 plus people here. And we get

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these guys that will call and email every

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extension and every email address trying to get

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a different answer. And at some point, you're

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gonna get 1.

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And then they get 1. It's like to

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have this fucking cookie. They wanna go share

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with everybody. And it wasn't even the correct

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case because the employee didn't have the correct

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information. It's like fucking Tmz did. Yeah. They

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running back. If here's the thing. If you

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don't talk to form,

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me or Jake, you're probably don't have the

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right information. So this all sounds kinda... And

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I don't want this to come off negative.

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So I was walking

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We were closing up shop today. And as

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I was walking back to the shop and

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look around.

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And I think to myself, holy shit. Just

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look at all this shit.

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Like, there's just

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shit upon shit. There's million dollars of shit.

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Just in this fucking building. Right? I'm looking

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around. I'm thinking back as like I got

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in trailer park boy said. Yeah. I'm like,

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so Building shit. I'm building like, I'm picturing

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in my mind, I'm building the fucking cabinetry

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that I bought it at lowe's and countertops

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in the fucking scene. Car garage over there,

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where we started.

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And then I look around here and even

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looking in here and even being here with

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you guys, like, everything like, I'm so fucking

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thankful.

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Go then everything has happened the way it

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had happened. Everything had to line up perfectly

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due. The stars had to align, Covid had

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to happen. We would not be here. I

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had to meet Ryan, and I had to

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everybody I've met

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that's helped in business and helped us grow

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like everything had to happen in a perfect

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fucking order for all of us to be

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sent here today.

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And and then I hear... And then it's...

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There then there's this guy. And I just

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told Ryan the other day. Wish people could

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just understand

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how much we care. Like, the whole rock

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stock thing.

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I just wanted it to be perfect. I

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wanted to be... I wanted it to be

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perfect so bad that I'm gonna put my

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ass on an airplane Sunday and go help

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fix the problem.

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And anyway, so these people... I think they're

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so used to bad companies and bad customer

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service that everybody's forgotten what it's like

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to work with... Everything used to be a

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small business.

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Everybody used to trade with each other, You

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know, barter. I don't honestly to

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totally agree with you, but they give some...

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Not not even giving people credit. Like, my

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job is is technical troubleshooting.

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And

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It's incredible how many people take the least

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direct route to try to fix a problem.

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Yeah. Everybody has to come up with some

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crazy fucking idea of what could be happening

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And in almost universally, it's always the simplest

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thing that could go wrong that did go

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wrong. And instead of, like, looking at all

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of the obvious shit in front of. They

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gotta look for some boutique reason why things

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didn't work. Yeah. It's like, it's never the

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obvious thing. It's like, well, maybe instead of,

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like, just coming up with 10 different things

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you could do to complain about something like,

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call the most direct resource you have to

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try to get to the bottom of the

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actual problem? Yep. And say, hey, is is

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there a fix for this? Do I even

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have a problem? Yep. A lot of times

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as people just using their own shit wrong.

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You. That's what I find a lot. Though.

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But it's like, man. You just...

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The I don't know if people's brains just

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don't work in like, a linear logical path.

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But I think at the same time too

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though from the from the big

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corporate side to small business, they expect not

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to get any attention.

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So because they think they're not gonna get

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any attention for their problem, they try to

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use this public forum to raise enough

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fucking bullish about it. Somebody's gonna pay attention

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to them It's just not that way. Like,

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we are just not that way here. I

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don't care how big we get. You know,

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I teach all the people the same thing

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the customer in front is the most important

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person in the building and so on and

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all. Everything... I don't wanna... Obviously, I shouldn't

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say publicly that we're gonna help you at

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any fucking way we can no matter what

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happens, but basically, that's it. I mean, they're...

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We've given refunds to guys on shit they

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bought 2 years ago.

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You know, whatever the situation is, we're just

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here to fucking help

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people expect

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customer no service. Yes. They and they they

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assume they can take any nugget of negativity,

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and not just rock. This is just human

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nature. And run back and say, u. These

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guys fuck me. Yeah. And I I see

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it over and over again rock side and

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it's... Every company like you could take... I

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see 1 like and not too long. I

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so I went on x and what's talking

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go. Chances are. It's just like you you

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could talk to the wrong person at You,

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You could talk to the wrong in nice.

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Yeah. If you get the wrong answer, the

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answer you don't like, don't go right back

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and bash it online, try to talk to

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somebody else there because chances are, If you

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talk to the right person, you're gonna get

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your way. No. But people just wanna run

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back and say, oh, this company fuck me

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if you're reasonable. Yes. Same amount of reason

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asshole out in here. But I will say

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Jake has changed my mind on some of

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this because I am

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fuck that guy. Like, I I probably in

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my mind say that 50 times a day.

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And Jake has changed my mind from the

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answer is yes. And I don't I don't

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know you want me to say this. That's

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fine. But he's way it is. And I'm

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always the answer is no.

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So I'm like,

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Jake's answer is yes. So now we have

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we have a team of 3 guys, a

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shoot to hunt, and I always tell them.

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I said, I... Am a classical no guy,

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but I gotta agree with Jake. The answer

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is always yes when the customer comes to

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us. So... And it and it it

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snowball balls into this thing of I can't

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say how, like, it's kind of like,

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rhetoric, but it's, like a positive thing to

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where chances are, we're not in the business.

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Shoot to U isn't fucking anybody. You're going

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to get your stock. You just gotta give

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us a little bit of patient and not

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run back and say, oh, I got them.

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By at the same time, so with all

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this being said, mostly what we're saying is

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almost... I don't wanna call it negative, but

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it... But so on the positive side, We

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don't often say thank you to the listeners.

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Thank you to all of the customers of

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unknown.

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Thank it to everybody does get on rock

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side to, you know, have a good time

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and and involve themselves and post and read.

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Thank you for, you know, shoot tons evolving

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into other things, And,

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anyway, so when I was walking through the

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shop, you know, it was almost like a

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tears shed kind a moment. I shut it

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You what I mean, but it was like,

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a holy shit. Not crying your.

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Yeah. I'm like

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I was like, holy shit, you know, that

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look look at all this stuff that has

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happened.

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And then when I say shit, I just

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mean because, you know, it's 8000 square feet

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stuff, and I don't wanna say that I'm,

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you know, all it's all my stuff. That's

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not what I mean It's like,

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I know that I'm only 1 person we

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can never do it without the 20 other

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people that work here, and we try to

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hire the best people that care the most

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about what we do and all that good

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shit, but it takes a big team of

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people to make shit happen. And yeah. So

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I'm thankful for

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care for the business that's developed in 5

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years, and again, for the listeners and whatnot,

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all you guys are helping in 1 way,

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shape or form is on, you know, if

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you're supporting us. And Yeah. And the people

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that I have that I call friends now,

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which I... I would include you 2 guys

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is, I would have never had without this

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industry. I wouldn't. I'd never met you. Would

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had never met a Jake. And the 1

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percent kinda of fucking... You know, the squeaky

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wheels get greased and they're they're negative fucker.

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Mh. To where there's 99 really fucking fantastic

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all their percent. Yeah. So I'm not cry

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And there is dude... There's a lot of,

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you know, of all the industries you could

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be in. There's a lot of good people

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in the hunting industry.

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Because it... Again, it takes a team. I

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mean, if you if dion only, if you

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think about all the different gear that you

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have

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all the testing and shit that you went

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through and all the favors and help the

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you asked up differently people that gets you

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to where you're at in your hunting experience.

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Yeah. It's you out there fucking busting in

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your ass, but fuck it takes a a

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world of people that create all these products

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and care about the hunting industry in order

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to get you to where you were. Well,

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God, even at the closer level, like, for

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for a lot of years that, oh, I

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just hump by myself. I'm doing this all

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by myself God. There's been so many people

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help me along the way. So many people

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that I've gotten some little nugget of information

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from even outside of the hunting world and

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just so many so many friends that have

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have given me good advice and and helped

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me with things that I could've have otherwise

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done.

523
00:17:01,341 --> 00:17:03,413
Well, and like, just for instance, in that

524
00:17:03,413 --> 00:17:05,086
this is what's crazy about the hunting industry.

525
00:17:05,658 --> 00:17:07,013
I roll up to the podcast,

526
00:17:07,411 --> 00:17:09,881
and Joan doing a gun drug bill outside.

527
00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:11,714
And if you wouldn't see that in a

528
00:17:11,714 --> 00:17:13,865
lot of other freaking kind of industry. No.

529
00:17:14,104 --> 00:17:16,755
Very interesting Nodding in. Yeah. Because we're kinda

530
00:17:16,755 --> 00:17:18,355
shadow band. We're kind of people think for

531
00:17:18,355 --> 00:17:20,515
these outsiders and we all kinda stick together.

532
00:17:20,674 --> 00:17:21,714
You can even say what it was. Did

533
00:17:21,714 --> 00:17:23,234
it was it was a fucking... It was

534
00:17:23,234 --> 00:17:25,324
a magnum rifle primer that may as well

535
00:17:25,324 --> 00:17:26,778
be fucking crack far

536
00:17:27,153 --> 00:17:28,981
those may throw big crack on. Do crack.

537
00:17:29,220 --> 00:17:31,129
Yes. Help Yes. Help him a buddy Carl

538
00:17:31,129 --> 00:17:33,212
out here. Yeah. Had a panic tac when

539
00:17:33,212 --> 00:17:34,804
he figured out he had 5000 of the

540
00:17:34,804 --> 00:17:36,635
wrong primer. There you go. But again, so

541
00:17:36,635 --> 00:17:38,068
that's a friend in the industry, and maybe

542
00:17:38,068 --> 00:17:39,103
he would do the same thing for you,

543
00:17:39,183 --> 00:17:40,695
at least you hope it I know I

544
00:17:40,695 --> 00:17:42,384
would. Everybody's looking out for each other And

545
00:17:42,384 --> 00:17:44,057
the same thing happens with primer here, Do

546
00:17:44,057 --> 00:17:45,412
we have few good people. I don't sell

547
00:17:45,412 --> 00:17:47,484
primer really. But, you know, if a fucking

548
00:17:47,484 --> 00:17:49,172
guy comes in and he's gonna miss hunt

549
00:17:49,172 --> 00:17:50,523
because he needs a ari a fucking. He

550
00:17:50,523 --> 00:17:52,271
needs a hundred Cci 02:50 he's fuck man.

551
00:17:52,430 --> 00:17:54,259
Here you go. Yeah. He gonna ruin somebody's

552
00:17:54,259 --> 00:17:55,610
hunt over that shit. You know, But... There's

553
00:17:55,610 --> 00:17:57,279
a lot of horse trading in this industry.

554
00:17:57,438 --> 00:17:59,845
There is There is. Anyway, so that's kind

555
00:17:59,845 --> 00:18:01,841
of a the negative side of small business

556
00:18:01,841 --> 00:18:02,878
where we're we're not gonna tell the whole

557
00:18:02,878 --> 00:18:04,177
business story, but just

558
00:18:04,634 --> 00:18:05,912
everyday operations, man. It's

559
00:18:07,281 --> 00:18:09,187
We don't have businesses the whole story. Yeah.

560
00:18:09,426 --> 00:18:11,411
It's fucking small... Well, small business in general

561
00:18:11,411 --> 00:18:13,556
is just fucking hard. Dude. Day in, day

562
00:18:13,556 --> 00:18:15,223
out, You know, you don't have the opportunity

563
00:18:15,223 --> 00:18:16,827
to burn out and put somebody else there,

564
00:18:16,906 --> 00:18:18,177
you know, we're here every day, and

565
00:18:19,130 --> 00:18:20,877
and we care. Otherwise, we wouldn't be here

566
00:18:20,877 --> 00:18:23,656
every day so... Yeah. The backbone just small

567
00:18:23,656 --> 00:18:26,451
businesses a backbone America still. Yeah. And nobody

568
00:18:26,451 --> 00:18:28,599
knows the stresses of small business owners they

569
00:18:28,599 --> 00:18:30,588
just don't. And if you can fucking help

570
00:18:30,588 --> 00:18:31,724
small business whatever

571
00:18:32,338 --> 00:18:33,770
you get to choose where you spend your

572
00:18:33,770 --> 00:18:35,693
money. They talk about this with farming and

573
00:18:35,693 --> 00:18:37,682
food and, you know, whether it be organic

574
00:18:37,682 --> 00:18:39,113
or, you know, buy and grocery store that

575
00:18:39,113 --> 00:18:40,306
kind of shit. But you choose where you

576
00:18:40,306 --> 00:18:40,783
spend your money.

577
00:18:41,499 --> 00:18:42,851
You can spend your money at Cab capella

578
00:18:42,851 --> 00:18:44,220
or shields or you can spend your money

579
00:18:44,220 --> 00:18:45,735
with a small business that carries the same

580
00:18:45,735 --> 00:18:47,409
product for the same retail price. You know,

581
00:18:47,569 --> 00:18:48,685
just be aware of that, and,

582
00:18:49,801 --> 00:18:51,315
it can make a big fucking difference. I

583
00:18:51,315 --> 00:18:54,127
saw little real on Instagram 1 time. And

584
00:18:54,127 --> 00:18:56,125
it was this little doughnut shopper cupcake shop

585
00:18:56,125 --> 00:18:57,483
and and a customer comes in the door

586
00:18:57,483 --> 00:18:58,921
and there's a screen and of course, the

587
00:18:58,921 --> 00:18:59,880
the owners there and

588
00:19:00,774 --> 00:19:02,134
As she comes in and then they they

589
00:19:02,134 --> 00:19:03,575
order some donuts or a cupcakes case where

590
00:19:03,575 --> 00:19:05,014
they walk out, and then you see the

591
00:19:05,014 --> 00:19:07,095
2 women like, duck down behind the fuck

592
00:19:07,095 --> 00:19:09,268
encounter right there and they're they're fucking. Doing

593
00:19:09,268 --> 00:19:11,818
they're happy got this fucking happy dance go

594
00:19:11,818 --> 00:19:12,854
on to you because that might've have been

595
00:19:12,854 --> 00:19:14,447
their first order or they're said, whatever it

596
00:19:14,447 --> 00:19:16,678
was, but that 1 single sale, and I

597
00:19:16,678 --> 00:19:18,373
can remember this shit because

598
00:19:18,924 --> 00:19:20,117
when we first started, you opened the unit,

599
00:19:20,276 --> 00:19:21,627
you opened the fucking website up, and it

600
00:19:21,627 --> 00:19:22,661
was a buddy of mind that bought the

601
00:19:22,661 --> 00:19:24,411
first thing it was a hat named Alfonso

602
00:19:24,411 --> 00:19:26,796
down in california. But every order that came

603
00:19:26,796 --> 00:19:28,307
in, new order.

604
00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:30,799
You know, We fucking it was a fucking

605
00:19:30,799 --> 00:19:32,720
deal man. And that's what small bit like

606
00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:34,400
that. And now it comes indy, we get

607
00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:35,894
a hundred orders a day, and you kinda

608
00:19:36,014 --> 00:19:37,690
delete a as going through your email, but

609
00:19:37,690 --> 00:19:39,526
it's, you know, that's a fucking. It is

610
00:19:39,606 --> 00:19:41,202
It's funny You said that because I've sold

611
00:19:41,202 --> 00:19:42,399
lots of things in my life, but the

612
00:19:42,399 --> 00:19:43,995
first cup orders from shoot to Hunter, like,

613
00:19:44,648 --> 00:19:47,675
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Fuck Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Alright.

614
00:19:47,914 --> 00:19:49,427
Well, we should probably talk to the guest

615
00:19:49,427 --> 00:19:52,534
that's here. Yep. About shooting and such and

616
00:19:52,534 --> 00:19:53,091
big meal.

617
00:19:53,664 --> 00:19:55,424
Yeah. Yeah. The first question of order I've

618
00:19:55,424 --> 00:19:57,424
already asked you, but you got a big

619
00:19:57,424 --> 00:19:59,025
deer found out there in the world. Yeah.

620
00:19:59,505 --> 00:20:00,625
We'll see if he turns into what a...

621
00:20:00,784 --> 00:20:02,144
What I'm hoping he turns... Or if he's

622
00:20:02,144 --> 00:20:04,388
even still alive. The motherfuckers is already a

623
00:20:04,388 --> 00:20:05,976
monster. He's not turning into nothing.

624
00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:09,786
He was wide, but he didn't he didn't

625
00:20:09,786 --> 00:20:12,193
score super good. Good lord. We we... I

626
00:20:12,193 --> 00:20:14,271
asked Jim Car that's been... I'd like to

627
00:20:14,271 --> 00:20:15,070
ask you this question.

628
00:20:15,629 --> 00:20:16,529
How early

629
00:20:16,988 --> 00:20:18,666
in the season, do you know you have

630
00:20:18,666 --> 00:20:20,185
a deer that's probably gonna be big.

631
00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,140
Man. It's it's tough, but

632
00:20:25,319 --> 00:20:26,759
some deer will be a month ahead of

633
00:20:26,759 --> 00:20:28,599
others. Like... So you'll find some deer that

634
00:20:28,599 --> 00:20:30,528
looks like they're totally finished at the end

635
00:20:30,528 --> 00:20:32,757
of July and some deer packing it on

636
00:20:32,757 --> 00:20:33,950
right up till the end of August.

637
00:20:34,587 --> 00:20:36,918
So it's it's hard to say, but it

638
00:20:37,228 --> 00:20:40,170
I mean, mid July, early July, you can

639
00:20:40,170 --> 00:20:41,998
usually kinda tell what they're gonna turn into.

640
00:20:42,157 --> 00:20:43,985
Like, if if there's some of them that

641
00:20:43,985 --> 00:20:45,994
are like, holy crap. That's obviously gonna be

642
00:20:45,994 --> 00:20:47,195
something good. You don't know if he's gonna

643
00:20:47,195 --> 00:20:49,355
have long times. You don't know, like, necessarily

644
00:20:49,355 --> 00:20:50,955
how he's gonna score. If he's got extras.

645
00:20:51,115 --> 00:20:53,035
He probably hasn't started sprout those off yet.

646
00:20:53,195 --> 00:20:55,838
But like, you can, you know, big bases

647
00:20:55,838 --> 00:20:58,066
and eye guards are are pretty undeniable.

648
00:20:58,862 --> 00:20:59,362
So

649
00:20:59,896 --> 00:21:01,647
Actually goes along with the question. So what

650
00:21:01,647 --> 00:21:02,863
we drew a a tag

651
00:21:03,174 --> 00:21:04,613
We don't need to talk about units are,

652
00:21:04,693 --> 00:21:06,291
like, what... If there's in the unit or

653
00:21:06,291 --> 00:21:07,809
not, but basically, the the tag runs from

654
00:21:07,969 --> 00:21:10,686
August first to December first. So Mh. When

655
00:21:10,846 --> 00:21:13,418
I... When Ryan, when I took... Runs from...

656
00:21:13,817 --> 00:21:16,850
August first t. August t to to December

657
00:21:16,850 --> 00:21:18,686
first. Yes. So when told Ryan that we

658
00:21:18,686 --> 00:21:20,203
do the tag. He's like, oh, man. The

659
00:21:20,203 --> 00:21:22,293
first week of September is awesome. I'm almost

660
00:21:22,293 --> 00:21:23,808
thinking to myself what the fuck the first

661
00:21:23,808 --> 00:21:26,121
week of September. Well explain that when they're

662
00:21:26,121 --> 00:21:28,275
growing their ant, they stay out in the

663
00:21:28,275 --> 00:21:29,631
open more because they don't wanna fuck their

664
00:21:29,631 --> 00:21:30,109
ant up.

665
00:21:30,986 --> 00:21:31,486
Now

666
00:21:31,798 --> 00:21:33,389
I would have never thought about that. So

667
00:21:33,389 --> 00:21:34,980
the the point... The question is is you

668
00:21:34,980 --> 00:21:37,764
know from that August t to December first

669
00:21:37,764 --> 00:21:39,848
date, like, what are you what date range

670
00:21:39,848 --> 00:21:41,598
are you picking in a unit you haven't

671
00:21:41,598 --> 00:21:41,917
scout?

672
00:21:43,110 --> 00:21:44,702
With the hopes of finding what you're looking

673
00:21:44,702 --> 00:21:45,895
them. Well, Why I wouldn't I scout it.

674
00:21:46,134 --> 00:21:48,699
Well, as pretend in New York. Wanna preface

675
00:21:48,699 --> 00:21:51,416
this. You know where it's at. K. And

676
00:21:51,416 --> 00:21:52,315
these deer

677
00:21:52,934 --> 00:21:55,092
have a lot more timber. K. Than most

678
00:21:55,092 --> 00:21:56,690
of the deer you hadn't as far as

679
00:21:56,690 --> 00:21:57,010
thickness.

680
00:21:57,744 --> 00:21:59,981
So... But they seem to disappear as soon

681
00:21:59,981 --> 00:22:01,499
as that fucking bill. It's gone.

682
00:22:02,298 --> 00:22:03,198
Hunting season

683
00:22:03,736 --> 00:22:04,855
for that tag for me.

684
00:22:05,507 --> 00:22:06,939
Would start the day I knew I drew

685
00:22:06,939 --> 00:22:09,007
the tag, and it in the day I

686
00:22:09,007 --> 00:22:10,837
killed the deer, which should probably be towards

687
00:22:10,837 --> 00:22:11,792
the earlier end of it,

688
00:22:12,522 --> 00:22:14,348
because the longer you wait, the less likely

689
00:22:14,348 --> 00:22:16,572
you less likely you are to refined anything.

690
00:22:17,048 --> 00:22:19,589
And I don't think it's necessarily a correlation

691
00:22:19,589 --> 00:22:21,177
between their ant being fuzzy and them not

692
00:22:21,177 --> 00:22:23,177
in. Not wanting to go into thick stuff.

693
00:22:23,892 --> 00:22:26,615
I think it correlates with food source changes

694
00:22:26,908 --> 00:22:29,370
from weather. Mh. So about the same time

695
00:22:29,449 --> 00:22:31,372
Velvet gets rubbed off, we have our first

696
00:22:31,372 --> 00:22:31,930
big frost.

697
00:22:33,127 --> 00:22:35,678
You freeze their food a couple times, and

698
00:22:35,678 --> 00:22:37,991
it's no longer gonna be their primary food

699
00:22:37,991 --> 00:22:39,767
source. Mh. Like, as

700
00:22:40,237 --> 00:22:42,381
as the season changes the food source changes.

701
00:22:43,255 --> 00:22:46,749
So that coincides exactly with them shedding velvet.

702
00:22:46,828 --> 00:22:48,194
And I think it has as much to

703
00:22:48,194 --> 00:22:50,350
do with deer being harder to find or

704
00:22:50,350 --> 00:22:51,707
moving or changing areas.

705
00:22:52,665 --> 00:22:53,623
I think it has as much to do

706
00:22:53,623 --> 00:22:55,140
with that as actually shedding the velvet. So

707
00:22:55,140 --> 00:22:57,135
there's not a certain time frame from August

708
00:22:57,135 --> 00:22:59,141
30 December first that you would target.

709
00:22:59,698 --> 00:23:01,528
As early as kill time. I mean, as

710
00:23:01,528 --> 00:23:02,880
early as you can. It doesn't matter when

711
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:04,790
you kill it, you know, after after September

712
00:23:04,790 --> 00:23:06,142
first, the rack is gonna be what the

713
00:23:06,142 --> 00:23:08,567
rack is. Yeah. I mean, then

714
00:23:08,942 --> 00:23:11,011
you might have a little ball up, but

715
00:23:11,011 --> 00:23:12,125
they might have a little bit of, like,

716
00:23:12,523 --> 00:23:15,089
extra blood at the... Tip of the Ant

717
00:23:15,089 --> 00:23:17,726
where it's not totally formed yet. But the

718
00:23:17,726 --> 00:23:19,964
the ant itself will be physically the same

719
00:23:19,964 --> 00:23:21,962
size. They'll just be adding, like, extra bone

720
00:23:21,962 --> 00:23:24,294
density to it. No. But it's it's I

721
00:23:24,294 --> 00:23:25,812
mean, the size of the size by that

722
00:23:25,812 --> 00:23:27,969
point. Does whether it's in velvet or hard

723
00:23:27,969 --> 00:23:29,327
ant, does I have any more a lure

724
00:23:29,327 --> 00:23:31,338
to you Way the other velvet? Really? Because

725
00:23:31,418 --> 00:23:32,691
I kinda have this I kinda have the

726
00:23:32,691 --> 00:23:34,997
same feeling. Yeah. It's so ugly. Yeah. It's

727
00:23:34,997 --> 00:23:36,588
so ugly and it stinks and it's just...

728
00:23:36,826 --> 00:23:38,815
It's, like greasy in your hands and it

729
00:23:38,815 --> 00:23:40,662
comes off like with... Any things. You gotta

730
00:23:40,662 --> 00:23:42,416
be even careful you strap it your backpack.

731
00:23:42,656 --> 00:23:44,889
U. I can't stand velvet it. Really? Well,

732
00:23:45,128 --> 00:23:47,441
basically, all the bucks that I've been around

733
00:23:47,441 --> 00:23:49,515
after the t of August, You can't hardly

734
00:23:49,515 --> 00:23:50,588
keep I it's

735
00:23:51,204 --> 00:23:53,036
in North idaho It's fucking hard to keep

736
00:23:53,036 --> 00:23:55,268
any velvet it anyways. When do you see...

737
00:23:56,383 --> 00:23:58,309
When do you see... Like, you've done most

738
00:23:58,309 --> 00:24:00,616
of your hunting, Southern Idaho, Central Idaho, I'm

739
00:24:00,616 --> 00:24:02,684
assuming. When do you see them mostly what

740
00:24:02,684 --> 00:24:03,320
day they stripped?

741
00:24:05,009 --> 00:24:07,965
It's anywhere from, like, right at the end

742
00:24:07,965 --> 00:24:11,001
of August to about September tenth. But like,

743
00:24:11,081 --> 00:24:13,090
you see some variability in that too. So,

744
00:24:13,170 --> 00:24:15,075
like, last year, there were deer that weren't

745
00:24:15,075 --> 00:24:16,741
stripped until the middle of September, but it

746
00:24:16,741 --> 00:24:19,202
was also like a really delayed growing season.

747
00:24:20,970 --> 00:24:21,470
Because

748
00:24:21,930 --> 00:24:23,289
what I always... And I I am not

749
00:24:23,289 --> 00:24:25,210
a mule hunter. I'm not because I think

750
00:24:25,210 --> 00:24:27,710
they're they're lesser of the 2 species. But

751
00:24:28,170 --> 00:24:28,410
the...

752
00:24:29,462 --> 00:24:31,396
Hunting up here and watching them

753
00:24:31,773 --> 00:24:33,606
as soon as, you know, we're hunting North

754
00:24:33,606 --> 00:24:34,961
idaho thick timber. Mh.

755
00:24:35,599 --> 00:24:37,365
As soon as that fuck strip they seem

756
00:24:37,365 --> 00:24:38,713
to never stay on the open, and I

757
00:24:38,713 --> 00:24:40,856
never really thought about the frost. Well, that

758
00:24:40,856 --> 00:24:42,522
always insects maybe It's more than that too.

759
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:44,682
It's more than that too. So like, you're

760
00:24:44,682 --> 00:24:46,515
really at a transitional time for the deer.

761
00:24:46,674 --> 00:24:48,905
So from the time they strip velvet,

762
00:24:49,383 --> 00:24:50,897
the most available, like,

763
00:24:52,107 --> 00:24:55,377
protein source available food that the highest quality

764
00:24:55,377 --> 00:24:56,835
food sources are now

765
00:24:57,291 --> 00:24:59,445
gone. Essentially, the summer feed is the best

766
00:24:59,445 --> 00:25:00,960
feed for them to put on body mass.

767
00:25:01,691 --> 00:25:05,106
So it's now no longer super beneficial for

768
00:25:05,106 --> 00:25:07,409
them to gorge themselves on on food if

769
00:25:07,409 --> 00:25:09,728
it's just enough to keep them sustained. Well

770
00:25:09,728 --> 00:25:12,271
it's also when their coat changes and they

771
00:25:12,271 --> 00:25:15,133
get their thicker fur. So now they're un

772
00:25:15,133 --> 00:25:16,723
uncomfortable warm if it's hot out.

773
00:25:18,335 --> 00:25:20,815
So their their activity level goes down dramatically.

774
00:25:20,974 --> 00:25:22,494
When does that happen the fur? Right about

775
00:25:22,494 --> 00:25:24,494
the same time they strip velvet. Okay. So

776
00:25:24,494 --> 00:25:26,507
they're getting the thicker coat put on, so

777
00:25:26,507 --> 00:25:28,886
it's uncomfortable. They're too warm. So they're gonna

778
00:25:28,886 --> 00:25:30,473
be less active. The food isn't as good,

779
00:25:30,711 --> 00:25:32,535
so it doesn't benefit them as much to

780
00:25:32,535 --> 00:25:33,011
gorge on it.

781
00:25:33,742 --> 00:25:36,133
Their coats getting heavier. So they're warmer. They

782
00:25:36,133 --> 00:25:37,248
don't wanna be out in the sun because

783
00:25:37,248 --> 00:25:38,603
they're gonna be too hot. So they're gonna

784
00:25:38,603 --> 00:25:40,913
be they're gonna rest more, and they're gonna

785
00:25:40,913 --> 00:25:42,847
be basically just

786
00:25:43,318 --> 00:25:45,147
hold up on whatever best food they have

787
00:25:45,147 --> 00:25:47,135
available in shady places. So really, that first

788
00:25:47,135 --> 00:25:49,122
week of September is really the best choice.

789
00:25:49,599 --> 00:25:51,054
Yeah. If you... To find

790
00:25:51,428 --> 00:25:53,591
Well, find them before that, And the first

791
00:25:53,591 --> 00:25:55,344
week is the most likely week. I mean,

792
00:25:55,663 --> 00:25:57,734
it's... You're gonna have the most recent information

793
00:25:57,734 --> 00:25:59,806
that week. Mh. And then every week after

794
00:25:59,806 --> 00:26:01,319
that is just a change. And, I mean,

795
00:26:01,399 --> 00:26:02,116
you're just going from...

796
00:26:02,848 --> 00:26:05,163
From every few week period, you have these

797
00:26:05,163 --> 00:26:07,796
little bits of change in their routine. And

798
00:26:07,796 --> 00:26:09,551
little bit it's bits of change in their

799
00:26:09,551 --> 00:26:11,639
motivator for why and how they're doing things.

800
00:26:11,878 --> 00:26:12,595
And basically,

801
00:26:13,153 --> 00:26:14,450
once you get towards

802
00:26:15,145 --> 00:26:18,187
maybe October twentieth 20 fifth for then they're

803
00:26:18,187 --> 00:26:20,253
gonna start thinking about rut. And and in

804
00:26:20,253 --> 00:26:21,763
some areas of the state, then they have

805
00:26:21,763 --> 00:26:24,545
to start thinking about migrating too. So there's

806
00:26:24,545 --> 00:26:26,214
just a lot of stuff going on in

807
00:26:26,214 --> 00:26:29,422
the fall, the month specifically from or specifically

808
00:26:29,422 --> 00:26:31,820
from the beginning of September till, like, mid

809
00:26:31,820 --> 00:26:34,057
to late October. There's a lot of different

810
00:26:34,057 --> 00:26:36,615
motivator going on that are driving their behavior.

811
00:26:37,108 --> 00:26:39,019
And I don't think it's the the huge

812
00:26:39,019 --> 00:26:41,486
mystery of Big bucks just disappearing that everybody

813
00:26:41,486 --> 00:26:43,158
likes to claim it is. It's like, there's

814
00:26:43,158 --> 00:26:45,386
there's real things happening around them that they

815
00:26:45,386 --> 00:26:47,793
are responding to. And it's not voodoo.

816
00:26:48,912 --> 00:26:50,909
Just watching... Like I said, I haven't not

817
00:26:50,909 --> 00:26:52,827
meal a, but I'm always honey at that

818
00:26:52,827 --> 00:26:55,579
time. And I'll see these bucks, the same

819
00:26:55,718 --> 00:26:58,195
day every day in the same general location.

820
00:26:58,595 --> 00:26:59,713
And then it soon like I was telling

821
00:26:59,713 --> 00:27:01,152
you as soon as it hits, like, the

822
00:27:01,152 --> 00:27:03,640
8 night tenth of September then I see

823
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:04,992
them sporadically, and then I don't see them

824
00:27:04,992 --> 00:27:07,059
at all. Like, September twentieth. I don't see

825
00:27:07,059 --> 00:27:09,047
him again it all hardly. Mh. So it's...

826
00:27:09,365 --> 00:27:11,035
They're probably still right there. I mean, I

827
00:27:11,114 --> 00:27:13,197
I think they within September, but problem is

828
00:27:13,276 --> 00:27:13,753
I'm looking...

829
00:27:14,310 --> 00:27:15,583
I don't not hunting a lot of stuff.

830
00:27:15,742 --> 00:27:17,731
You're honey. I'm hunting and fucking clear cuts

831
00:27:17,731 --> 00:27:20,453
and open brush fields. The then everything else

832
00:27:20,453 --> 00:27:22,608
is fucking hard temp make timber. Mh. So

833
00:27:22,608 --> 00:27:24,125
they're there probably are in the temperature, they're

834
00:27:24,125 --> 00:27:25,322
just not out in the open anymore. So

835
00:27:25,402 --> 00:27:25,881
I was telling,

836
00:27:26,839 --> 00:27:28,435
Jake, Like, man, I'd really try to kill

837
00:27:28,435 --> 00:27:30,286
him. And We're also going to Africa, So

838
00:27:30,286 --> 00:27:31,643
we're coming back, like the fourth or third.

839
00:27:31,882 --> 00:27:34,196
Yeah. I said, you're gonna have, like, a

840
00:27:34,196 --> 00:27:36,112
week really good right there that go after

841
00:27:36,112 --> 00:27:37,879
it hard. Yeah. So soon to get back.

842
00:27:38,436 --> 00:27:40,106
Yeah. And it's my daughter's tag, So I

843
00:27:40,106 --> 00:27:41,220
have to get my daughter where we're going.

844
00:27:41,459 --> 00:27:43,288
Right? So that that poses a another...

845
00:27:43,925 --> 00:27:43,980
So

846
00:27:44,897 --> 00:27:46,573
difficulty in the hunt. So what about

847
00:27:48,009 --> 00:27:50,003
do you know anything about peak rut in

848
00:27:50,083 --> 00:27:53,122
North Idaho versus Central Southern. I know time

849
00:27:53,122 --> 00:27:55,424
changed change. The timelines are sometimes a little

850
00:27:55,424 --> 00:27:58,599
bit different in the rut is dictated by

851
00:27:58,599 --> 00:28:01,157
the amount of hours of daylight. So it's

852
00:28:01,157 --> 00:28:03,229
it's not a temperature thing, and the re

853
00:28:03,229 --> 00:28:03,729
happens

854
00:28:04,184 --> 00:28:06,336
no matter what. Everybody, you mean You look

855
00:28:06,336 --> 00:28:08,248
at fucking Alma act right now and figure

856
00:28:08,248 --> 00:28:10,000
out what daylight?

857
00:28:11,046 --> 00:28:13,344
Some herd will be, like, different week... I

858
00:28:13,344 --> 00:28:15,325
mean, it's it's all gonna be happening around

859
00:28:15,325 --> 00:28:18,115
the first week of November. K. And you'll

860
00:28:18,115 --> 00:28:19,942
see route behavior for the whole month, but

861
00:28:19,942 --> 00:28:22,404
the overwhelming majority of the breeding is happening

862
00:28:22,404 --> 00:28:23,914
right around then. So that would be the

863
00:28:23,914 --> 00:28:26,552
second most opportune we. To go out and...

864
00:28:26,790 --> 00:28:27,905
If you want to try to get lucky.

865
00:28:28,065 --> 00:28:29,498
Like, if you don't have something found, but

866
00:28:29,498 --> 00:28:30,772
it you... It's not reliable.

867
00:28:31,409 --> 00:28:31,909
What

868
00:28:32,364 --> 00:28:32,864
this

869
00:28:33,399 --> 00:28:35,638
piggyback on that, what? I've heard Robbie Den,

870
00:28:36,747 --> 00:28:38,673
what he says about this. Electro to your

871
00:28:39,045 --> 00:28:42,309
your side of it. What makes if... That

872
00:28:42,309 --> 00:28:43,602
dough probably not

873
00:28:43,975 --> 00:28:44,689
in est.

874
00:28:45,244 --> 00:28:47,544
What makes that butt kick into readiness even

875
00:28:47,544 --> 00:28:49,228
though that hasn't happened yet. And it's like...

876
00:28:49,388 --> 00:28:51,304
It's last week. Second week the last week

877
00:28:51,304 --> 00:28:54,018
of October. It's literally dictated by the amount

878
00:28:54,018 --> 00:28:56,572
of hours. So it's not smelling anything. They

879
00:28:56,572 --> 00:28:59,613
just know something's... Their testosterone spool up? Yeah.

880
00:28:59,852 --> 00:29:01,522
Yeah. Is it. Mh,

881
00:29:02,477 --> 00:29:02,795
interesting.

882
00:29:03,829 --> 00:29:05,758
Well, I mean, like from my perspective, I

883
00:29:05,758 --> 00:29:07,756
do not have the opportunity as a small

884
00:29:07,756 --> 00:29:10,234
business owner to go spend fucking 7 weeks

885
00:29:10,234 --> 00:29:12,871
of scouting to find my biggest mule here

886
00:29:12,871 --> 00:29:14,960
in Idaho. I don't have that opportunity. You

887
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:15,914
could put it like I said...

888
00:29:16,392 --> 00:29:17,584
I could put in a hard 4 days.

889
00:29:17,982 --> 00:29:20,208
Okay. So so on top of that, when

890
00:29:20,367 --> 00:29:21,719
I'm saying the plus were just come back

891
00:29:21,719 --> 00:29:23,245
from after all this and I plus have

892
00:29:23,245 --> 00:29:24,620
my daughter with me. So

893
00:29:25,632 --> 00:29:27,700
hiking super long distance. Is not gonna be

894
00:29:27,700 --> 00:29:28,098
an option.

895
00:29:29,053 --> 00:29:30,565
Staying out for 6 weeks is not gonna

896
00:29:30,565 --> 00:29:31,122
be an option...

897
00:29:32,095 --> 00:29:34,575
A long term scout beforehand is not an

898
00:29:34,575 --> 00:29:35,934
option. K. So I'm trying to think about,

899
00:29:36,015 --> 00:29:37,454
like, if I'm gonna invest time with my

900
00:29:37,454 --> 00:29:38,335
daughter to go do this,

901
00:29:38,989 --> 00:29:40,187
And right now I feeling like the week

902
00:29:40,187 --> 00:29:42,025
after we get back from Africa and then

903
00:29:42,025 --> 00:29:44,102
the first week of November. There is an

904
00:29:44,102 --> 00:29:45,060
upside. K?

905
00:29:45,953 --> 00:29:46,987
Very low standards.

906
00:29:48,101 --> 00:29:49,851
Did. I tell you hey. We were talking

907
00:29:49,851 --> 00:29:50,510
about this.

908
00:29:51,123 --> 00:29:53,845
He's he's the shallow house cool there. Fuck

909
00:29:53,845 --> 00:29:55,678
yeah Yeah. They're all pretty. I said, well,

910
00:29:55,757 --> 00:29:58,148
what are you looking for? He's like, very

911
00:29:58,148 --> 00:30:00,873
low. Very low. Did. I mean, I I

912
00:30:00,873 --> 00:30:03,029
imagine whatever you would consider like, a mid

913
00:30:03,029 --> 00:30:05,743
sized deer. K? Is a monster for us.

914
00:30:05,903 --> 00:30:08,138
What we talk... Is it standards are real

915
00:30:08,138 --> 00:30:10,228
deer. The small day. I I'm gonna fog

916
00:30:10,228 --> 00:30:11,823
that deer, we saw down at fucking sam.

917
00:30:12,381 --> 00:30:14,375
Eyed lens kind of a deer. Okay. I'm

918
00:30:14,375 --> 00:30:15,810
gonna fight a picture of what I would

919
00:30:15,810 --> 00:30:17,644
swell I would think is a fucking monster

920
00:30:17,644 --> 00:30:19,000
and you're okay. But I'm gonna find the...

921
00:30:19,254 --> 00:30:20,765
So you guys keep good. So here's here's

922
00:30:20,765 --> 00:30:22,674
the reality of it at least at least

923
00:30:22,674 --> 00:30:24,584
in Central Idaho and I think this applies

924
00:30:24,584 --> 00:30:27,288
to most places plus or minus 10 inches.

925
00:30:28,338 --> 00:30:28,838
Most

926
00:30:29,295 --> 00:30:31,845
mature mule dear, don't get much bigger than

927
00:30:31,845 --> 00:30:32,403
01:50.

928
00:30:32,801 --> 00:30:34,316
If you find a hundred and 50 to

929
00:30:34,316 --> 00:30:36,561
a hundred and 60 inch mule deer, that

930
00:30:36,561 --> 00:30:38,149
may be as big as he ever gets

931
00:30:38,149 --> 00:30:39,897
no matter how many years extra you give

932
00:30:39,897 --> 00:30:40,055
him.

933
00:30:40,850 --> 00:30:43,153
So when you when you see people dogg

934
00:30:43,153 --> 00:30:44,995
on a hundred and 50 inch. Deer, like,

935
00:30:45,154 --> 00:30:47,458
that is that is probably a deer at

936
00:30:47,458 --> 00:30:50,000
his best. A shot I've shot 2 milled

937
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:50,159
deer,

938
00:30:51,113 --> 00:30:52,805
aged, teeth 8, tooth aged

939
00:30:53,512 --> 00:30:54,465
there were 7 and a half and 8

940
00:30:54,465 --> 00:30:56,134
and a half. 1 was 01:35 and 1

941
00:30:56,134 --> 00:30:59,234
was 01:52. Mh. Old, big body dear. That

942
00:30:59,234 --> 00:31:00,824
is... Yeah. That is that is a big

943
00:31:00,824 --> 00:31:02,988
deer. Hundred 50 inch deer. Is a big

944
00:31:02,988 --> 00:31:05,881
deer. I wish people would kinda reestablish their

945
00:31:06,019 --> 00:31:09,051
benchmark. Like, okay. 01:50 is a very respectable

946
00:31:09,051 --> 00:31:09,450
mule deer.

947
00:31:10,184 --> 00:31:11,144
And, like, honestly,

948
00:31:11,625 --> 00:31:13,865
most years, I'm overjoyed to find a hundred

949
00:31:13,865 --> 00:31:15,384
and 70 each year. I feel like that's

950
00:31:15,384 --> 00:31:17,384
an exceptional deer in a general unit.

951
00:31:20,192 --> 00:31:20,692
Monster.

952
00:31:22,186 --> 00:31:23,941
It's all it's honestly probably a hundred and

953
00:31:23,941 --> 00:31:25,239
40 inch shares. Like.

954
00:31:25,776 --> 00:31:27,291
At a quick glance. That's it. That is

955
00:31:27,291 --> 00:31:29,220
probably That is a deer that could be

956
00:31:29,220 --> 00:31:30,575
at the peak of his life as big

957
00:31:30,575 --> 00:31:32,010
as he ever gets. He was living on

958
00:31:32,010 --> 00:31:34,003
the south alfalfa patch on a ranch that

959
00:31:34,003 --> 00:31:36,075
we hunt for Cow. Mh. Down in salmon.

960
00:31:36,569 --> 00:31:37,690
And we happened to be driving down 1

961
00:31:37,690 --> 00:31:38,890
of the roads in the ranch, and he

962
00:31:38,890 --> 00:31:40,009
was just sitting there in the middle dude.

963
00:31:40,170 --> 00:31:41,769
He looked at us. Like, his shit didn't

964
00:31:41,769 --> 00:31:42,009
stink.

965
00:31:42,809 --> 00:31:44,089
And we looked at him like it was

966
00:31:44,089 --> 00:31:45,450
the biggest mule that I've seen because it

967
00:31:45,450 --> 00:31:47,702
was. K. Literally, that's the biggest mule that

968
00:31:47,782 --> 00:31:48,682
I've ever seen

969
00:31:49,220 --> 00:31:51,697
in the wild. So to me as a

970
00:31:51,697 --> 00:31:52,896
monster. Yeah. And what do you think it

971
00:31:52,896 --> 00:31:53,615
is a 01:40?

972
00:31:54,029 --> 00:31:55,941
Yeah at a quick glance. If... Yeah. If

973
00:31:55,941 --> 00:31:56,100
that,

974
00:31:56,817 --> 00:31:58,650
I don't even... He doesn't have Eye guards.

975
00:31:59,207 --> 00:31:59,924
So... Yeah. No.

976
00:32:01,293 --> 00:32:02,408
Yeah. Maybe 01:40.

977
00:32:03,204 --> 00:32:04,557
He see That's a good that. And I

978
00:32:04,557 --> 00:32:06,468
said we... That's a good deer. We can

979
00:32:06,468 --> 00:32:08,140
sick. Good Dear. We can do. That's a

980
00:32:08,140 --> 00:32:10,063
good dear. That's right. We can do better.

981
00:32:10,222 --> 00:32:12,922
There's only 60 tags. There's only 60 tags

982
00:32:12,922 --> 00:32:15,304
data this tag Yeah. There's a guy that

983
00:32:15,304 --> 00:32:17,631
we know. I'm gonna have to to you

984
00:32:17,686 --> 00:32:18,083
trade,

985
00:32:19,054 --> 00:32:20,652
Talking me. There's another guy we know though.

986
00:32:20,812 --> 00:32:24,249
You could trade product for scouting. Really? Yeah.

987
00:32:24,568 --> 00:32:25,527
I know the guy we're talking about. You.

988
00:32:25,847 --> 00:32:27,125
It's a different guy? No. It's that guy.

989
00:32:27,365 --> 00:32:28,820
Yeah Yeah. Yeah. I wanna put him on

990
00:32:28,820 --> 00:32:30,259
the spot. Yeah. He's was trying to slow

991
00:32:30,259 --> 00:32:31,620
down on that side, but, yeah. I think

992
00:32:31,700 --> 00:32:32,980
I know exactly who you're talking about too.

993
00:32:33,140 --> 00:32:34,980
And he already told me. He goes, oh,

994
00:32:35,140 --> 00:32:36,820
I know where he says I know Dear.

995
00:32:36,980 --> 00:32:38,673
Yeah if really guy I think it is,

996
00:32:38,833 --> 00:32:40,671
He knows where Deer are everywhere. Yeah. Well,

997
00:32:40,751 --> 00:32:41,789
yeah. I'm might have to go on that

998
00:32:41,789 --> 00:32:43,388
route for this desk. Scouting... I just talk

999
00:32:43,388 --> 00:32:45,546
to these scouting right now. Yeah. Yeah. I

1000
00:32:45,546 --> 00:32:47,791
call that guy for advice. Yeah. For sure.

1001
00:32:48,188 --> 00:32:50,015
Well, generally, he gives us advice and I

1002
00:32:50,015 --> 00:32:51,365
feel like, a we're loading him man right

1003
00:32:51,365 --> 00:32:52,875
now. Yeah. But I would. I don't wanna

1004
00:32:52,875 --> 00:32:54,543
see the unit or where he. Yeah. Yeah.

1005
00:32:54,702 --> 00:32:56,052
Yeah. He's the guy. Yeah.

1006
00:32:56,703 --> 00:32:58,452
Are you only at Idaho?

1007
00:33:00,201 --> 00:33:00,598
I have...

1008
00:33:01,234 --> 00:33:02,824
I'm going to Alaska for Moose.

1009
00:33:03,460 --> 00:33:04,746
And and then I have... I have 1

1010
00:33:04,746 --> 00:33:06,093
other out of state home. What's the whole...

1011
00:33:06,330 --> 00:33:08,867
Lot, I'm... We're really interested Alaska shit, lately.

1012
00:33:09,025 --> 00:33:11,007
What's the whole plan? The whole plan is

1013
00:33:11,165 --> 00:33:14,224
I got... III hit I hit the absolute

1014
00:33:14,281 --> 00:33:15,077
neighbor lottery.

1015
00:33:16,032 --> 00:33:16,532
Wow.

1016
00:33:16,987 --> 00:33:18,578
My... I had a next door neighbor move

1017
00:33:18,578 --> 00:33:20,806
in at the beginning of November last year.

1018
00:33:21,299 --> 00:33:21,778
And

1019
00:33:22,974 --> 00:33:24,888
yeah, His was his wife moved in first,

1020
00:33:25,367 --> 00:33:26,643
and I wouldn't talk to her. She's like,

1021
00:33:26,882 --> 00:33:28,078
my husband's hunting. And I'm like well, Can

1022
00:33:28,078 --> 00:33:29,275
mean a lot of different. I think this

1023
00:33:29,275 --> 00:33:30,312
dialogue in my head. That can mean a

1024
00:33:30,312 --> 00:33:31,918
lot of different things. Could be a guy

1025
00:33:31,918 --> 00:33:33,347
who wants to bore me for 20 minutes

1026
00:33:33,347 --> 00:33:34,856
about the 1 time he saw Cal 7

1027
00:33:34,856 --> 00:33:36,523
years ago. Mh. Or he could be like

1028
00:33:36,523 --> 00:33:37,634
me. You know, On the other end of

1029
00:33:37,634 --> 00:33:39,460
this there's a spectrum who respect me and

1030
00:33:39,460 --> 00:33:41,466
my wife have? It'd conversation all the time.

1031
00:33:41,865 --> 00:33:43,380
So and so hunt, I was, like, well,

1032
00:33:43,539 --> 00:33:45,853
does he hunt? Like But it's... I think

1033
00:33:46,012 --> 00:33:47,368
I would say but does he kill shit.

1034
00:33:47,767 --> 00:33:49,043
Please supposed define that.

1035
00:33:50,890 --> 00:33:52,557
And she she happened mention Always he's... He's

1036
00:33:52,557 --> 00:33:54,463
in the frank tunnel. And I guy might

1037
00:33:54,463 --> 00:33:56,528
be might be pretty cool, and she told

1038
00:33:56,528 --> 00:33:57,958
me he's flo was gonna be in there

1039
00:33:57,958 --> 00:33:59,467
for a couple weeks. Well 4 days later.

1040
00:34:00,277 --> 00:34:01,631
I see you guy pulling the house and,

1041
00:34:02,188 --> 00:34:04,020
go over there and visit with him. Start

1042
00:34:04,020 --> 00:34:05,612
talking with him and I'm like, hey, Tag

1043
00:34:05,612 --> 00:34:07,762
out. He's like, oh, no, the. The weather

1044
00:34:07,762 --> 00:34:09,527
wasn't right. Ended up coming out. And thinking

1045
00:34:09,527 --> 00:34:11,276
my head. Chicken shit loser came out because

1046
00:34:11,276 --> 00:34:12,173
the weather wasn't.

1047
00:34:12,628 --> 00:34:14,456
But you were flown in. And I mentioned

1048
00:34:14,456 --> 00:34:16,940
something dope. I'm like, that's kinda lame. And

1049
00:34:17,179 --> 00:34:18,780
he's like, oh, no. I got my own

1050
00:34:18,780 --> 00:34:21,099
airplane. It's I'll like, I'll fly back in

1051
00:34:21,099 --> 00:34:23,039
when the weather gets better. I

1052
00:34:23,420 --> 00:34:24,719
shit. I gotta cool

1053
00:34:26,233 --> 00:34:27,507
for a while and I'm looking over and

1054
00:34:27,507 --> 00:34:29,101
he's got alaska plates on his truck, and

1055
00:34:29,101 --> 00:34:30,535
I'm like, oh, I thought you guys are

1056
00:34:30,535 --> 00:34:32,367
from Washington. He's like, oh, well, we had

1057
00:34:32,367 --> 00:34:34,757
a house in Washington. I'm actually Alaska resident.

1058
00:34:35,489 --> 00:34:36,523
And I'm like, oh, really?

1059
00:34:37,238 --> 00:34:39,385
Mike, you do pilot, play the alaska residue.

1060
00:34:39,623 --> 00:34:41,293
Any up there He's like oh, yeah. We

1061
00:34:41,293 --> 00:34:42,645
we got a lot up there between me

1062
00:34:42,645 --> 00:34:44,173
and my brother. We hope... We help kill

1063
00:34:44,173 --> 00:34:46,411
14 moose last year? And I was like,

1064
00:34:46,490 --> 00:34:48,088
jesus, do you just spend the whole fall

1065
00:34:48,088 --> 00:34:49,686
pack and moose? I didn't pack any of

1066
00:34:49,686 --> 00:34:50,165
them. I'm, like,

1067
00:34:51,058 --> 00:34:53,054
please explain. Yeah. He's like, well, I got

1068
00:34:53,054 --> 00:34:54,970
an air boat, and it's got a crane

1069
00:34:54,970 --> 00:34:56,247
on the front of it. So we'll kill

1070
00:34:56,247 --> 00:34:57,684
the moose, and then I've just run the

1071
00:34:57,684 --> 00:34:58,882
air boat up to when we load him

1072
00:34:58,882 --> 00:34:59,680
whole once?

1073
00:35:00,014 --> 00:35:01,529
He's like, my brother's got 1 too. So

1074
00:35:01,529 --> 00:35:03,045
we'll team up with boats and we go

1075
00:35:03,045 --> 00:35:04,320
out and we we help all our neighbor's

1076
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,314
kill moose, guys. If you're over 65, you

1077
00:35:06,314 --> 00:35:07,988
can, like, if you're and your alaska resident,

1078
00:35:08,148 --> 00:35:10,000
you can sign your tag. Over to another

1079
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,480
alaska resident to harvest your moose. U. So

1080
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,239
he's out there just Whale and Moose for

1081
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:14,900
to make.

1082
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,359
That's. Fantastic, and they takes a bunch of

1083
00:35:17,359 --> 00:35:19,766
friends out. A over air boat new goal.

1084
00:35:20,005 --> 00:35:21,673
Air boats, the way to hot moves to

1085
00:35:21,912 --> 00:35:23,978
Alaska. Yeah. We'll see how we'll have to

1086
00:35:23,978 --> 00:35:25,409
figure out how we did, after. Yeah. Yeah.

1087
00:35:25,648 --> 00:35:25,806
Yeah.

1088
00:35:26,619 --> 00:35:28,140
So not gone have starbucks so you tell

1089
00:35:28,140 --> 00:35:29,579
the story. Like, man, this is... You know,

1090
00:35:29,660 --> 00:35:31,820
this is... That's that's freaking incredible Like, yeah,

1091
00:35:32,220 --> 00:35:33,420
you wanna go. Yes.

1092
00:35:34,394 --> 00:35:36,312
Yes. I do. I was I I will...

1093
00:35:36,552 --> 00:35:38,310
Did you guys... What time do Wanna buy

1094
00:35:38,310 --> 00:35:39,828
ticket? Hey. Did you guys dock right there?

1095
00:35:40,068 --> 00:35:41,347
Oh yeah. Yeah.

1096
00:35:42,066 --> 00:35:42,945
Yeah. Well,

1097
00:35:44,476 --> 00:35:46,866
So so like, I committed it. I can

1098
00:35:46,866 --> 00:35:48,938
write that instantly, and I'm like, okay. I'm

1099
00:35:48,938 --> 00:35:50,850
gonna be the best neighbor this guy is.

1100
00:35:51,183 --> 00:35:53,169
Ever had go. Hey you need to up

1101
00:35:53,169 --> 00:35:54,122
at a bow that side of your lawn,

1102
00:35:54,679 --> 00:35:57,141
every time so Like, we had a pretty

1103
00:35:57,141 --> 00:35:58,968
good winner for Southern Idaho last year. We

1104
00:35:58,968 --> 00:36:00,159
ended up getting quite a bit of snow,

1105
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:01,924
so, Like, called them 1 day. I'm like

1106
00:36:01,924 --> 00:36:03,436
hey, man. I just... I I don't wanna

1107
00:36:03,436 --> 00:36:04,550
be rude, but I got I got a

1108
00:36:04,550 --> 00:36:06,061
side by side with a snow plow on

1109
00:36:06,061 --> 00:36:08,130
it. You cool if I plow your drive.

1110
00:36:08,289 --> 00:36:09,961
It's snowed like, 10 inches or whatever. I

1111
00:36:09,961 --> 00:36:11,731
do... Do a bunch of driveway for my

1112
00:36:11,731 --> 00:36:13,485
neighbors. I had 1... I had a neighbor

1113
00:36:13,485 --> 00:36:15,640
lady actually complained about me Plow or sidewalk

1114
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,315
for. No shit. Yeah. I guess, she liked

1115
00:36:17,315 --> 00:36:18,845
plow. Like, okay. I'm whatever. I I'm just

1116
00:36:18,845 --> 00:36:20,121
trying to be helpful or whatever. So like

1117
00:36:20,121 --> 00:36:22,432
now, I just ask everybody's usually really happy

1118
00:36:22,432 --> 00:36:24,026
to have this stop out for him. No

1119
00:36:24,026 --> 00:36:26,669
shit. So so his response was Yeah. And

1120
00:36:26,669 --> 00:36:28,019
and when you get done, you can come

1121
00:36:28,019 --> 00:36:29,766
in and fold my laundry and

1122
00:36:30,481 --> 00:36:31,752
we want some room to repay.

1123
00:36:33,261 --> 00:36:35,264
Okay. We're gonna get along. Good. So I

1124
00:36:35,264 --> 00:36:37,332
every anytime a fucking a flake of snow

1125
00:36:37,332 --> 00:36:39,105
hit his driveway How's was plowing

1126
00:36:40,356 --> 00:36:42,755
this funny department. So he's he's actually commercial

1127
00:36:42,755 --> 00:36:44,900
fishermen, and and he's gone a lot this

1128
00:36:44,900 --> 00:36:47,522
winter. So 1 day, I just finished plowing

1129
00:36:47,522 --> 00:36:48,237
his driveway.

1130
00:36:48,808 --> 00:36:50,320
I'm out I'm out in my driveway,

1131
00:36:51,115 --> 00:36:53,024
pull my daughter around on a sled, and

1132
00:36:53,103 --> 00:36:54,615
I see the garage door come up and

1133
00:36:54,615 --> 00:36:56,682
his wife's got a snow shovel in her

1134
00:36:56,682 --> 00:36:58,766
hand. She's all geared up, like, a full

1135
00:36:58,766 --> 00:37:01,550
on snow bib, full outfit. She opens the

1136
00:37:01,550 --> 00:37:03,699
garage door and she's already confused look on

1137
00:37:03,699 --> 00:37:04,827
her face because I just... Plow.

1138
00:37:06,732 --> 00:37:09,034
That's awesome. Nice. Yeah. I hit the neighbor

1139
00:37:09,034 --> 00:37:11,653
jackpot. Hell Sounds like it. Nice. So. Yeah

1140
00:37:11,653 --> 00:37:13,002
you definitely come back on tell the story.

1141
00:37:13,653 --> 00:37:14,927
We've been interested in going in and trying

1142
00:37:14,927 --> 00:37:16,519
to do a moose thing or Car or...

1143
00:37:16,838 --> 00:37:18,669
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't even know air

1144
00:37:18,669 --> 00:37:20,261
boats were a thing in Alaska. I didn't

1145
00:37:20,261 --> 00:37:21,590
tell right now. But you could take them

1146
00:37:21,949 --> 00:37:23,627
everywhere. I thought that was like, a Georgia

1147
00:37:23,627 --> 00:37:25,385
swamp type of situation. I did I did

1148
00:37:25,385 --> 00:37:27,223
too. It was fun Louisiana Bayou you. So

1149
00:37:27,382 --> 00:37:28,981
I can't hunt the unit they hunt because

1150
00:37:29,061 --> 00:37:30,831
I'm a non res so we were researching

1151
00:37:30,831 --> 00:37:32,506
other stuff. He's like, I this area. It

1152
00:37:32,506 --> 00:37:33,724
looks good. Because he's flying

1153
00:37:34,181 --> 00:37:35,059
flying roundup up there.

1154
00:37:36,414 --> 00:37:37,372
I'm looking at stuff. He's like I found

1155
00:37:37,372 --> 00:37:38,568
a bunch of moose in this spot, but

1156
00:37:38,648 --> 00:37:39,605
I don't know if we can hunt it.

1157
00:37:40,018 --> 00:37:41,446
I'm having a hard time figuring out who

1158
00:37:41,446 --> 00:37:43,192
the land managing agency is for this. He's,

1159
00:37:43,271 --> 00:37:44,699
like, if you could research this, that would

1160
00:37:44,699 --> 00:37:46,525
help. So I I figured out who it

1161
00:37:46,525 --> 00:37:49,237
is for this. Certain, like, wilderness area and

1162
00:37:49,237 --> 00:37:50,585
he's like, I wanna I wanna find the

1163
00:37:50,585 --> 00:37:52,171
travel and see if we can use the

1164
00:37:52,171 --> 00:37:54,313
air boat. Mh. And and I finally get

1165
00:37:54,313 --> 00:37:55,756
a hold of a lady in tells me

1166
00:37:55,756 --> 00:37:56,789
where to look it. I'm like I want

1167
00:37:56,789 --> 00:37:57,821
you to send me a link to where

1168
00:37:57,900 --> 00:37:59,171
I can see this on a website. I

1169
00:37:59,171 --> 00:38:01,100
want, like, everything in writing, just

1170
00:38:01,474 --> 00:38:02,903
crush your t's dot your eyes type of

1171
00:38:02,903 --> 00:38:05,085
shit. She So I sent him a screenshot

1172
00:38:05,140 --> 00:38:07,520
of of the, like, travel restrictions for the

1173
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,107
area, then we find out the air boats

1174
00:38:09,107 --> 00:38:11,666
legal and his response. Like... III give him

1175
00:38:11,666 --> 00:38:12,862
all my homework that he gave me and,

1176
00:38:12,942 --> 00:38:15,175
like, here's here's the here's the report, and

1177
00:38:15,175 --> 00:38:17,648
he just responded with. Oh, it's gonna be

1178
00:38:17,648 --> 00:38:18,286
a blood bad.

1179
00:38:20,930 --> 00:38:23,235
Like, that is that is exactly what I

1180
00:38:23,235 --> 00:38:25,143
wanna to do. So in your mind, do

1181
00:38:25,143 --> 00:38:26,733
you have, like, a... What you're looking for?

1182
00:38:27,210 --> 00:38:29,766
So he's flying his airplane around there all

1183
00:38:29,766 --> 00:38:31,195
the time and he says he doesn't even

1184
00:38:31,195 --> 00:38:33,338
go after a moose less is 65 plus.

1185
00:38:33,576 --> 00:38:36,454
Oh, yes. That sound like like, I I

1186
00:38:36,454 --> 00:38:38,292
was asking him questions about how to make

1187
00:38:38,292 --> 00:38:38,931
sure it's legal.

1188
00:38:39,570 --> 00:38:41,329
He's like it's not gonna be a problem.

1189
00:38:42,368 --> 00:38:45,405
So Getting awesome. It's yeah 65 inches, like,

1190
00:38:45,659 --> 00:38:48,449
like, fucking huge. Yeah. Why. So 5 5

1191
00:38:48,449 --> 00:38:50,202
and a half feet. Yeah. Holy.

1192
00:38:50,681 --> 00:38:52,912
Fucking monster. Yeah. Boo.

1193
00:38:54,042 --> 00:38:55,712
So... So then you do... Then you had

1194
00:38:55,712 --> 00:38:57,302
to come back and hunt the lonely meal.

1195
00:38:57,700 --> 00:38:59,449
Oh, man. I'm excited about that too, though.

1196
00:39:01,199 --> 00:39:03,289
I I I've shot A moose. So I've

1197
00:39:03,289 --> 00:39:04,809
been on a few moose kills and they're

1198
00:39:04,809 --> 00:39:07,050
cool. I do wanna shoot it Alaskan Yukon,

1199
00:39:07,210 --> 00:39:07,710
but

1200
00:39:08,090 --> 00:39:10,585
I'd still rather shouldn't know. That... Your moose

1201
00:39:10,585 --> 00:39:12,505
was the 1 you shot at, like, 2

1202
00:39:12,505 --> 00:39:13,724
zip codes away, wasn't,

1203
00:39:14,025 --> 00:39:16,105
you. Know. I'm hundred for a month and

1204
00:39:16,184 --> 00:39:18,184
I. My wife basically said this is...

1205
00:39:19,319 --> 00:39:20,997
This is it. Because I was actually working

1206
00:39:20,997 --> 00:39:21,716
multiple jobs.

1207
00:39:22,355 --> 00:39:24,432
And she's like, dude, you've been gone for

1208
00:39:24,432 --> 00:39:26,110
a month, Killer alec, or kill Moose.

1209
00:39:26,843 --> 00:39:28,119
So it was... Was the only when I

1210
00:39:28,119 --> 00:39:29,715
saw, and it was 1775

1211
00:39:29,715 --> 00:39:30,911
yards away to Jesus.

1212
00:39:31,948 --> 00:39:33,623
Died next to a road though Right? Died

1213
00:39:33,623 --> 00:39:35,457
on the road. Died on the road. My

1214
00:39:35,457 --> 00:39:37,464
buddy had my buddy with Yeah we, like

1215
00:39:37,623 --> 00:39:39,454
Jet boat or air boat. We I had

1216
00:39:39,454 --> 00:39:41,922
tracks and we rode right to it. That's

1217
00:39:41,922 --> 00:39:43,276
what impressed me about tracks. If he dragged

1218
00:39:43,276 --> 00:39:46,152
that moose out uphill. Nice. Like holy shit.

1219
00:39:46,310 --> 00:39:47,580
It's they're really good till they come off.

1220
00:39:47,976 --> 00:39:49,484
Well, until they snap or you snapping it

1221
00:39:49,484 --> 00:39:51,309
up. They break a lot of stuff. They

1222
00:39:51,309 --> 00:39:52,420
do break a lot of axles.

1223
00:39:53,229 --> 00:39:54,608
But... Yeah. But

1224
00:39:55,547 --> 00:39:56,106
moose are cool.

1225
00:39:56,825 --> 00:39:57,385
I would say,

1226
00:39:58,184 --> 00:39:59,463
go get your fill and you'll be back

1227
00:39:59,463 --> 00:40:01,460
to, Yeah through in no time. Yeah. Forms.

1228
00:40:02,511 --> 00:40:04,972
I'm pretty much convinced. I'm gonna use the

1229
00:40:04,972 --> 00:40:06,401
22 creed that you guys just belt me,

1230
00:40:06,559 --> 00:40:08,703
but he's talking me to using the 22

1231
00:40:08,703 --> 00:40:10,788
creed on and I'm like... Was that'd be

1232
00:40:10,788 --> 00:40:12,306
that'd be pretty cool to shoot a big

1233
00:40:12,306 --> 00:40:14,623
old Alaska moose way to create more. Oh,

1234
00:40:14,783 --> 00:40:16,701
no. You gonna video it? I'll try to.

1235
00:40:16,860 --> 00:40:18,954
Yeah. That dude it's gonna work. What bullet?

1236
00:40:19,355 --> 00:40:20,394
80 8LD.

1237
00:40:20,714 --> 00:40:22,795
Didn't work. Yeah. The el... I do dude

1238
00:40:22,954 --> 00:40:24,714
I was so proud of you for given

1239
00:40:24,714 --> 00:40:26,315
the horn people the right name for their

1240
00:40:26,315 --> 00:40:26,474
bullet?

1241
00:40:27,129 --> 00:40:29,599
Murder bullet. The El d murder. Mh. Dude.

1242
00:40:29,918 --> 00:40:31,274
I... I tell. All time that came from

1243
00:40:31,274 --> 00:40:32,868
you. Not me, but people keep connecting me

1244
00:40:32,868 --> 00:40:34,303
to Head, like no. I actually stole it

1245
00:40:34,303 --> 00:40:35,831
from my buddy zach. I can't steal it.

1246
00:40:35,991 --> 00:40:36,491
I

1247
00:40:37,026 --> 00:40:37,504
regret.

1248
00:40:37,902 --> 00:40:40,075
I don't like to take people's credit, but

1249
00:40:40,451 --> 00:40:42,442
it'll work. Yeah. I don't have any doubts

1250
00:40:42,442 --> 00:40:43,796
it'll work. I don't give a if it's

1251
00:40:43,796 --> 00:40:46,843
fur. Front side. And after shooting after after

1252
00:40:46,843 --> 00:40:48,919
doing the shooting school, I can shoot some

1253
00:40:48,919 --> 00:40:49,876
bullets real fast now.

1254
00:40:50,675 --> 00:40:51,335
Oh, there's

1255
00:40:51,952 --> 00:40:54,998
3 late. Dump double tap seems like it's

1256
00:40:54,998 --> 00:40:56,912
under doing it at this point. Alright. You

1257
00:40:56,912 --> 00:40:59,623
will get into that. So you went to

1258
00:40:59,623 --> 00:41:02,015
the Shoot university the 0 to 600. Mh.

1259
00:41:02,429 --> 00:41:03,623
Give us your feedback.

1260
00:41:05,296 --> 00:41:07,685
I feel like I got away with doing

1261
00:41:07,685 --> 00:41:09,597
a lot of shit wrong for a long

1262
00:41:09,597 --> 00:41:12,164
time, and I had no as a guy

1263
00:41:12,164 --> 00:41:12,965
who's probably...

1264
00:41:13,445 --> 00:41:14,965
I mean, I... I felt like I was

1265
00:41:14,965 --> 00:41:17,605
pretty proficient. Like, comparatively, you you put me

1266
00:41:17,605 --> 00:41:18,965
into a group of most hunters, and I

1267
00:41:18,965 --> 00:41:21,210
felt like, I I would... You know, stand

1268
00:41:21,210 --> 00:41:23,034
stand well with that group regardless of who

1269
00:41:23,034 --> 00:41:23,430
it was.

1270
00:41:24,540 --> 00:41:26,284
I didn't realize how much shit I had

1271
00:41:26,284 --> 00:41:27,711
no idea how wrong I was doing it.

1272
00:41:28,123 --> 00:41:30,907
Like, just the fundamentals of of all of

1273
00:41:30,907 --> 00:41:32,578
the little things that I didn't know what

1274
00:41:32,737 --> 00:41:34,567
I was doing was embarrassing.

1275
00:41:36,565 --> 00:41:38,254
I got away with a lot because

1276
00:41:38,943 --> 00:41:40,766
situational, like, I would find a deer, and

1277
00:41:40,846 --> 00:41:42,193
I was never in a rush to shoot

1278
00:41:42,193 --> 00:41:44,276
him. I'd set up camera, I'd dig a

1279
00:41:44,276 --> 00:41:45,550
hole out on the hillside. To make a

1280
00:41:45,550 --> 00:41:46,983
nice flat spot to shoot from.

1281
00:41:47,619 --> 00:41:49,768
I would dry fire on the animal 15

1282
00:41:49,768 --> 00:41:52,258
times till the cross hairs didn't move

1283
00:41:52,568 --> 00:41:53,998
and I could get away with a lot

1284
00:41:53,998 --> 00:41:55,768
under those circumstances, but

1285
00:41:57,412 --> 00:41:58,389
I feel like

1286
00:41:58,921 --> 00:42:01,144
outside of my little world that I created

1287
00:42:01,144 --> 00:42:03,870
for myself, in in my killing scenario. I

1288
00:42:03,870 --> 00:42:05,546
probably wouldn't have been very effective.

1289
00:42:06,744 --> 00:42:08,659
You were the state you are the same

1290
00:42:08,659 --> 00:42:10,096
as me in that aspect I grew up.

1291
00:42:10,655 --> 00:42:12,820
In all my honey was ambush hunting of

1292
00:42:12,820 --> 00:42:14,811
some sort dry firing.

1293
00:42:15,209 --> 00:42:17,519
I... Basically, all the cards were stacked in

1294
00:42:17,519 --> 00:42:19,373
my favor. Oh, yeah. And

1295
00:42:19,844 --> 00:42:21,594
So inform. You gotta try this, and I'm

1296
00:42:21,594 --> 00:42:24,059
like, okay. I'll try it. Thinking, just be

1297
00:42:24,059 --> 00:42:25,809
another thing. I'm gonna ace this shit. Yeah.

1298
00:42:25,969 --> 00:42:26,923
And I get out there and I look

1299
00:42:26,923 --> 00:42:29,250
like a complete cluster Fuck. Yeah. And I'm

1300
00:42:29,250 --> 00:42:31,329
like, oh, well, you get me off the

1301
00:42:31,329 --> 00:42:32,849
ground, and I fucking suck.

1302
00:42:33,730 --> 00:42:35,570
And this basically broke me down for 4

1303
00:42:35,570 --> 00:42:36,849
days. And I've been through a few times

1304
00:42:36,849 --> 00:42:38,938
now, but As a whole, it makes you

1305
00:42:38,938 --> 00:42:40,610
a more well rounded Marks.

1306
00:42:41,088 --> 00:42:43,078
Now I don't have to have that setup

1307
00:42:43,078 --> 00:42:45,569
up. I'm still... I still want to afford

1308
00:42:45,626 --> 00:42:48,273
myself. Every opportunity to take as much time

1309
00:42:48,273 --> 00:42:49,948
as I can and be as prepared as

1310
00:42:50,107 --> 00:42:51,942
I can. And I don't think it's a

1311
00:42:51,942 --> 00:42:53,936
bad idea if you can drive fire on

1312
00:42:53,936 --> 00:42:56,265
an animal multiple times and get calm dig

1313
00:42:56,265 --> 00:42:57,945
out a flat spot in hill. Like, that's

1314
00:42:57,945 --> 00:42:59,704
never a bad idea if you have it,

1315
00:43:00,505 --> 00:43:02,184
but it's nice to not need it. Mh.

1316
00:43:02,425 --> 00:43:03,945
Because it's not always there. Well, and you're

1317
00:43:03,945 --> 00:43:05,405
an analytical. You're a

1318
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:07,708
you think things out. What did we suck

1319
00:43:07,708 --> 00:43:07,867
at?

1320
00:43:08,822 --> 00:43:10,891
There's something we suck that. The the whole

1321
00:43:10,891 --> 00:43:12,802
shooting thing. Food, lodging,

1322
00:43:13,533 --> 00:43:16,398
shooting. The food was ridiculously good. Yeah. I

1323
00:43:16,398 --> 00:43:19,182
knew definitely a suck. What what? What would

1324
00:43:19,182 --> 00:43:21,251
you say the lodging was really nice.

1325
00:43:22,779 --> 00:43:24,372
I I was in the friends and family

1326
00:43:24,372 --> 00:43:25,727
group, and there was a lot of people.

1327
00:43:26,205 --> 00:43:28,298
No. So that it it went a bit

1328
00:43:28,356 --> 00:43:30,360
slow, but it sounded like it was... Way

1329
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,843
the hell faster the next week way faster

1330
00:43:32,898 --> 00:43:34,881
paid people, which, you know, I'm I'm not

1331
00:43:34,881 --> 00:43:36,546
complaining, And that's just... I got... I got

1332
00:43:36,546 --> 00:43:38,230
invited to do the thing. I was so

1333
00:43:38,230 --> 00:43:39,510
grateful for the opportunity.

1334
00:43:41,030 --> 00:43:43,110
Honestly, man, That's about the only... Oh, I

1335
00:43:43,110 --> 00:43:43,430
got 1.

1336
00:43:44,150 --> 00:43:45,510
Make that Get up right here.

1337
00:43:46,403 --> 00:43:47,919
I keep me up till 1 at night.

1338
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:49,675
You got you gotta say to the microphone.

1339
00:43:50,234 --> 00:43:52,947
Till, make form get up earlier in the

1340
00:43:52,947 --> 00:43:53,665
morning. Yeah.

1341
00:43:54,396 --> 00:43:55,829
He did actually he did actually get up

1342
00:43:55,829 --> 00:43:57,181
a little bit earlier the next week. He

1343
00:43:57,181 --> 00:43:58,931
did A little... Like the like, the whole

1344
00:43:58,931 --> 00:44:00,443
week, they were shooting by...

1345
00:44:01,731 --> 00:44:02,208
09:30.

1346
00:44:02,686 --> 00:44:04,992
My body wakes up between 5 and 6

1347
00:44:04,992 --> 00:44:05,549
every day,

1348
00:44:06,344 --> 00:44:07,935
regardless of what the alarm clock does.

1349
00:44:09,128 --> 00:44:09,628
So

1350
00:44:10,257 --> 00:44:12,404
Nick, Nick said he was sitting down on

1351
00:44:12,404 --> 00:44:13,143
his little

1352
00:44:13,518 --> 00:44:15,347
chair for so long that the lando owner

1353
00:44:15,347 --> 00:44:16,755
came by and said, do you wanna go

1354
00:44:16,873 --> 00:44:17,612
shoot some.

1355
00:44:18,623 --> 00:44:20,848
Didn't take. You took groundhog gonna eat before

1356
00:44:20,848 --> 00:44:23,177
and the school started would day. Oh, gee

1357
00:44:23,313 --> 00:44:23,790
very.

1358
00:44:24,346 --> 00:44:25,698
Yeah. So that... Yeah.

1359
00:44:26,668 --> 00:44:27,626
Earlier. Yeah.

1360
00:44:28,265 --> 00:44:30,101
And I guess, you know, on the flip

1361
00:44:30,101 --> 00:44:32,277
side, I'm not a morning person either, but

1362
00:44:32,335 --> 00:44:34,650
then it wouldn't go till midnight. Yeah. Yeah.

1363
00:44:35,143 --> 00:44:36,441
I do think there is

1364
00:44:37,376 --> 00:44:40,086
as as dumb as it seemed, I do

1365
00:44:40,086 --> 00:44:41,521
think there is a little bit of method

1366
00:44:41,521 --> 00:44:43,928
def forms madness for keeping you up. Till

1367
00:44:43,928 --> 00:44:46,161
you're really late and then have... Like, keeping

1368
00:44:46,161 --> 00:44:47,676
up till you're really tired than having you

1369
00:44:47,676 --> 00:44:49,829
go straight to bad afterwards because I do

1370
00:44:49,829 --> 00:44:52,244
think the retention is better, Mh. Of the

1371
00:44:52,302 --> 00:44:52,802
information

1372
00:44:53,353 --> 00:44:55,917
but I think that could happen at 11

1373
00:44:56,687 --> 00:44:58,671
more than, like... Well, the same as it

1374
00:44:58,671 --> 00:45:00,814
doesn't midnight 1. The the biggest feedback that

1375
00:45:00,973 --> 00:45:01,608
I got was,

1376
00:45:02,498 --> 00:45:04,914
I really didn't think that we would shoot

1377
00:45:05,213 --> 00:45:06,969
a thousand rounds. Yeah. We shot a lot.

1378
00:45:07,208 --> 00:45:09,842
Yeah. That's probably the average We went through

1379
00:45:09,842 --> 00:45:11,532
about a thousand rounds. I went voice scout

1380
00:45:11,532 --> 00:45:12,565
on some of it too, and I shot

1381
00:45:12,565 --> 00:45:14,630
a little bit extra every. Oh, I would

1382
00:45:14,630 --> 00:45:17,093
look over and Dion would have, like, 3

1383
00:45:17,093 --> 00:45:20,130
meg set up. Oh, and he 10:10 round

1384
00:45:20,130 --> 00:45:20,630
mag

1385
00:45:22,197 --> 00:45:24,345
that poor 6 5 creed or P was

1386
00:45:24,345 --> 00:45:26,670
getting worked. Other than the P got ran

1387
00:45:26,670 --> 00:45:28,505
hard and the 02:23 got ran really hard.

1388
00:45:28,664 --> 00:45:30,738
At 1 point, I I remember looking back.

1389
00:45:30,898 --> 00:45:32,493
I was getting so much mirage off the

1390
00:45:32,493 --> 00:45:33,849
barrel I looked back at form. I'm like,

1391
00:45:34,168 --> 00:45:36,177
you got any, like, cool ways to cool

1392
00:45:36,177 --> 00:45:37,772
these down. He threw me a water bottle

1393
00:45:37,852 --> 00:45:39,686
He just poured it over the barrel.

1394
00:45:40,484 --> 00:45:42,159
It was steam pouring off of it.

1395
00:45:43,515 --> 00:45:44,871
Yeah. Yeah. I was running it.

1396
00:45:45,762 --> 00:45:48,705
Nice. So you... I'm I'm guessing you would

1397
00:45:48,705 --> 00:45:50,932
recommend it. Yeah. No. It was good. Right.

1398
00:45:51,092 --> 00:45:51,887
It was definitely good.

1399
00:45:52,619 --> 00:45:54,857
Your food was the food was stupid good.

1400
00:45:56,135 --> 00:45:58,532
We... We... I was really surprised. I was

1401
00:45:58,532 --> 00:45:59,492
not expecting that.

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1419
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Myself and buddy ward. We stopped at a

1420
00:46:49,803 --> 00:46:51,557
grocery store in town because we didn't, like...

1421
00:46:51,717 --> 00:46:53,232
We we knew there was gonna be some

1422
00:46:53,232 --> 00:46:54,920
food, but it's like, it's Like, I don't

1423
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,066
know if like dinners, do we need to

1424
00:46:57,066 --> 00:46:59,291
have lunches? So we we brought we didn't

1425
00:46:59,291 --> 00:47:01,596
eat it. Goddamn thing that we brought the

1426
00:47:01,596 --> 00:47:03,678
food was so good. You know I've been

1427
00:47:03,678 --> 00:47:05,587
the multiple shooting schools and the... I've had

1428
00:47:05,587 --> 00:47:07,416
bad food, and it can... Even if you

1429
00:47:07,416 --> 00:47:09,326
have good training, it can still be like,

1430
00:47:09,564 --> 00:47:12,046
a turn off. Mh. So we all decided

1431
00:47:12,046 --> 00:47:14,434
we have got to have fantastic food. Yeah.

1432
00:47:14,752 --> 00:47:17,219
The training was legit, and the food was

1433
00:47:17,219 --> 00:47:19,461
just like, Like, it didn't even make sense.

1434
00:47:19,699 --> 00:47:22,083
Know. Didn't makes sense. She she she come

1435
00:47:22,083 --> 00:47:23,911
out every day or every other day they

1436
00:47:23,911 --> 00:47:25,818
refresh everything and bring the new stuff and

1437
00:47:25,818 --> 00:47:27,901
she had a phenomenal job. Well, I was

1438
00:47:27,901 --> 00:47:29,256
weird because It seemed like she was really

1439
00:47:29,256 --> 00:47:31,088
worried about making sure everybody was happy with

1440
00:47:31,088 --> 00:47:32,921
it. I'm like, this is like the best

1441
00:47:32,921 --> 00:47:35,152
stuff I've ever. Hey. Like, why are you

1442
00:47:35,152 --> 00:47:35,471
worried?

1443
00:47:36,028 --> 00:47:36,528
She

1444
00:47:37,476 --> 00:47:39,622
like my wife stayed the second week solely

1445
00:47:39,622 --> 00:47:40,893
so she can eat more of the food.

1446
00:47:41,847 --> 00:47:44,151
She did. She's like, I fucking say, I'll

1447
00:47:44,151 --> 00:47:46,393
shoot. It'll, all cherry pick my shot. Yeah

1448
00:47:46,393 --> 00:47:47,832
get in there and and work on some

1449
00:47:47,832 --> 00:47:49,450
stuff, but I'm here for the food

1450
00:47:49,829 --> 00:47:51,507
because camille can cook. Yeah.

1451
00:47:52,386 --> 00:47:54,796
No then the The place was legit too.

1452
00:47:55,036 --> 00:47:58,547
Like, the location was cool. It was insanely

1453
00:47:58,547 --> 00:48:00,862
windy, which was beneficial for the class, I

1454
00:48:00,862 --> 00:48:01,420
think. Like,

1455
00:48:02,074 --> 00:48:03,191
actually seeing the guns...

1456
00:48:04,388 --> 00:48:06,144
Well, yeah, foreman and I are kind of

1457
00:48:06,144 --> 00:48:08,059
friends at this point, but, like, to demonstrate

1458
00:48:08,059 --> 00:48:10,068
things, He he actually threw a fist full

1459
00:48:10,068 --> 00:48:12,456
of dirt into my action and had me

1460
00:48:12,456 --> 00:48:14,286
run the gun. And then he did the

1461
00:48:14,286 --> 00:48:16,913
same thing on another action to prove that

1462
00:48:16,913 --> 00:48:19,061
like, hey, this gonna work with dirt in

1463
00:48:19,061 --> 00:48:22,255
it. This gun won't. And legitimately, my gun

1464
00:48:22,255 --> 00:48:24,242
worked, the trigger got super hard. Like, it

1465
00:48:24,242 --> 00:48:26,546
it was legitimately probably a 10 pound trigger

1466
00:48:26,546 --> 00:48:28,634
pull. But every time I pulled the trigger

1467
00:48:28,634 --> 00:48:29,989
the... That like did that like trigger the

1468
00:48:30,149 --> 00:48:30,867
Ocd a little bit?

1469
00:48:31,664 --> 00:48:32,164
I

1470
00:48:32,541 --> 00:48:34,136
I'm not I wasn't too worried. It's a

1471
00:48:34,136 --> 00:48:35,651
tool for me Like, I wasn't too worried

1472
00:48:35,651 --> 00:48:37,573
about it. Everybody else I think was more

1473
00:48:37,573 --> 00:48:39,558
surprised than I was. I did a I

1474
00:48:39,558 --> 00:48:41,463
did a pistol class with form, and and

1475
00:48:41,463 --> 00:48:43,051
he was, you know, we we were joking

1476
00:48:43,051 --> 00:48:44,498
around. Is telling me, like, me a command

1477
00:48:44,498 --> 00:48:45,857
to do with the gun. Somebody told him

1478
00:48:45,857 --> 00:48:47,454
to throw a s chicago on the ground.

1479
00:48:47,614 --> 00:48:48,893
He literally chuck it. So I was like,

1480
00:48:49,292 --> 00:48:50,730
okay. I'm not surprised at all. Like, he

1481
00:48:50,730 --> 00:48:52,182
does that with his gonna He's gonna he's

1482
00:48:52,182 --> 00:48:54,097
gonna do that with mine. So, I wasn't

1483
00:48:54,097 --> 00:48:55,692
upset and then right afterwards, he did it

1484
00:48:55,692 --> 00:48:58,643
with with a remington to 700 base custom,

1485
00:48:59,121 --> 00:49:00,956
and it stopped working. The trigger quit.

1486
00:49:01,608 --> 00:49:02,720
His gun, but it didn't quit in mind.

1487
00:49:02,799 --> 00:49:05,102
So I was like, he he... He's all

1488
00:49:05,102 --> 00:49:06,713
about proving everything

1489
00:49:07,484 --> 00:49:10,701
like, with evidence. Like, here's Here's the actual

1490
00:49:10,757 --> 00:49:13,145
functional reason why I say what I say

1491
00:49:13,145 --> 00:49:14,418
and I can prove it. And...

1492
00:49:15,054 --> 00:49:16,487
He's he's got a method do his madness.

1493
00:49:16,805 --> 00:49:18,769
I do appreciate about him is he's not

1494
00:49:19,287 --> 00:49:20,403
he's not afraid to shoot in front of

1495
00:49:20,403 --> 00:49:22,395
people? The bear... Did you guys shoot at

1496
00:49:22,395 --> 00:49:23,590
the. I don't know we get to that.

1497
00:49:24,068 --> 00:49:25,900
The... At the second class they're like, we.

1498
00:49:26,234 --> 00:49:27,505
Think it was the second cause. He's was

1499
00:49:27,505 --> 00:49:29,490
like week... Nobody's he's hitting the bear. I

1500
00:49:29,490 --> 00:49:30,841
hit the bear but I didn't hit it

1501
00:49:30,841 --> 00:49:32,350
inside the right pink. Right. Right. Had to

1502
00:49:32,350 --> 00:49:33,859
be in see. Had to be his size

1503
00:49:33,859 --> 00:49:36,599
bear, which are mini bears. Yeah. Yeah. So

1504
00:49:36,657 --> 00:49:38,728
he... They got down. And is, like nobody

1505
00:49:38,728 --> 00:49:40,083
to get this bear. So he got down

1506
00:49:40,083 --> 00:49:41,596
with a fucking 3 8 which I hate

1507
00:49:41,596 --> 00:49:43,110
3 0 eights which you guys fucking going

1508
00:49:43,110 --> 00:49:44,942
shoot. We tricked you into shoot through shooting

1509
00:49:44,942 --> 00:49:45,261
03:08.

1510
00:49:45,834 --> 00:49:48,225
And he fucking... Like, he's not afraid to

1511
00:49:48,225 --> 00:49:49,979
demonstrate you know that you can't hit the

1512
00:49:49,979 --> 00:49:51,812
mirror. Absolutely. And he'll get down and he'll

1513
00:49:51,812 --> 00:49:53,247
shoot the things and he'll shoot the targets

1514
00:49:53,247 --> 00:49:55,099
and you're like, Oh, well, he can do

1515
00:49:55,099 --> 00:49:56,780
what he's saying he. Here's here's 1 of

1516
00:49:56,780 --> 00:49:58,619
the things that was the most dramatic to

1517
00:49:58,619 --> 00:50:00,300
me that I saw over the course of

1518
00:50:00,300 --> 00:50:02,139
the week with a bunch of other shooter

1519
00:50:02,139 --> 00:50:05,034
shooting mostly 02:20 threes, and I thought I

1520
00:50:05,034 --> 00:50:07,034
was gonna gain part of it shooting a

1521
00:50:07,034 --> 00:50:08,795
hot rod 65P,

1522
00:50:09,275 --> 00:50:11,674
launching 01:40 sevens at close to 3100.

1523
00:50:13,210 --> 00:50:15,050
It didn't make my hit rate much better.

1524
00:50:16,329 --> 00:50:18,090
Like, I thought I was cheating as much

1525
00:50:18,090 --> 00:50:20,658
as I could cheat the wind and black

1526
00:50:20,658 --> 00:50:22,165
ballistic and all that... Like I thought I

1527
00:50:22,165 --> 00:50:23,197
was gaming it. Mh.

1528
00:50:23,990 --> 00:50:25,338
And when it come to actually hitting stuff,

1529
00:50:25,497 --> 00:50:27,338
it didn't make me hit more. I didn't

1530
00:50:27,338 --> 00:50:28,851
see... Like, it was a it was a

1531
00:50:28,851 --> 00:50:30,604
little bit of a benefit, but nowhere near

1532
00:50:30,604 --> 00:50:32,515
what I thought it was. I thought that

1533
00:50:32,515 --> 00:50:33,869
too, and I didn't see as much as

1534
00:50:33,869 --> 00:50:35,860
yours, but I thought Ward with the 02:22

1535
00:50:35,860 --> 00:50:37,950
creed Yeah. That thing is actually cheating. It

1536
00:50:37,950 --> 00:50:39,706
is cheating, but it still had a lot.

1537
00:50:39,945 --> 00:50:42,977
It still showed you the scenarios where that

1538
00:50:42,977 --> 00:50:45,465
shit still fails. Yeah. And the 02:20 threes

1539
00:50:45,465 --> 00:50:48,199
don't necessarily fail. Like, you're not you're not

1540
00:50:48,257 --> 00:50:51,048
handicap that much. You really aren't handicapped that

1541
00:50:51,048 --> 00:50:52,883
much by a gun with what would seem

1542
00:50:52,883 --> 00:50:56,002
like inferior bliss. 6. Although if if there

1543
00:50:56,002 --> 00:50:56,502
was

1544
00:50:57,115 --> 00:50:58,705
if there was a cheat code for it,

1545
00:50:58,864 --> 00:51:01,646
it's a stupid fast 22 calorie 6 mil.

1546
00:51:02,139 --> 00:51:03,197
Like for actually

1547
00:51:03,653 --> 00:51:04,472
shoot ability

1548
00:51:05,168 --> 00:51:07,799
and what your likelihood is of hitting that

1549
00:51:07,799 --> 00:51:08,119
target,

1550
00:51:08,836 --> 00:51:11,875
like, the the ballistic don't matter as much

1551
00:51:11,875 --> 00:51:13,699
as you like to think they do. The

1552
00:51:13,699 --> 00:51:15,523
guns are just easier to shoot. They gotta

1553
00:51:15,523 --> 00:51:17,348
be stupid inside like, if you look, you

1554
00:51:17,348 --> 00:51:19,348
know, if the west tells you. If you

1555
00:51:19,348 --> 00:51:21,103
look at the 22 creed or A6UM,

1556
00:51:21,741 --> 00:51:24,692
they are giving you magnum big magnum performance.

1557
00:51:24,931 --> 00:51:28,042
Mh. And way way less recoil. Yeah. It's

1558
00:51:28,042 --> 00:51:28,521
just fact.

1559
00:51:29,732 --> 00:51:32,683
What's your what's your Instagram handle? Oh god.

1560
00:51:33,161 --> 00:51:35,634
Wild dash Idaho hope wild underscore Idaho. Okay.

1561
00:51:35,794 --> 00:51:37,788
So recently, you did the scope drop test

1562
00:51:37,788 --> 00:51:38,346
and you were?

1563
00:51:39,635 --> 00:51:41,465
I trying I dropped me some m. Did.

1564
00:51:41,703 --> 00:51:42,101
So this

1565
00:51:42,817 --> 00:51:44,726
to me that shared. I was proud of

1566
00:51:44,726 --> 00:51:46,556
them. It did. Well, it stirred some shit

1567
00:51:46,556 --> 00:51:48,805
to me like, reading comment doing that right

1568
00:51:48,805 --> 00:51:50,405
like so people... There was a guy who

1569
00:51:50,405 --> 00:51:52,485
said it was not ethical to drop my

1570
00:51:52,485 --> 00:51:52,724
game.

1571
00:51:53,525 --> 00:51:55,204
What kind of fuck a d doesn't think

1572
00:51:55,204 --> 00:51:55,945
it's ethical

1573
00:51:56,485 --> 00:51:58,739
to your equipment. So it's more ethical to

1574
00:51:58,739 --> 00:52:00,980
have a shitty scope that doesn't work. That's

1575
00:52:00,980 --> 00:52:02,739
lot just main stuff. So that's the point

1576
00:52:02,820 --> 00:52:04,019
I was gonna bring up is there's some

1577
00:52:04,260 --> 00:52:05,873
let's say, there's some high level shooters around

1578
00:52:05,873 --> 00:52:07,709
in the Instagram world that laugh at the

1579
00:52:07,709 --> 00:52:09,784
whole scope drop test. Yeah. And to me,

1580
00:52:09,944 --> 00:52:11,461
there are people like the guy you're talking

1581
00:52:11,461 --> 00:52:13,536
about, they don't want to know their scope

1582
00:52:13,536 --> 00:52:15,542
is gonna fail. They don't want to know

1583
00:52:15,542 --> 00:52:17,371
their rifle gonna fail. They just wanna believe

1584
00:52:17,371 --> 00:52:19,121
that because they spent whatever amount of money

1585
00:52:19,121 --> 00:52:20,871
on it, that it's just gonna work all

1586
00:52:20,871 --> 00:52:22,873
the time. Yeah. And this goes back to

1587
00:52:22,873 --> 00:52:24,302
the training, but also kinda... I think you're

1588
00:52:24,302 --> 00:52:25,494
a lot like forming and that way you

1589
00:52:25,494 --> 00:52:27,161
like to demonstrate things and see how things

1590
00:52:27,161 --> 00:52:28,512
actually prove. Or they'll prove it to me.

1591
00:52:28,750 --> 00:52:30,179
Yeah. Prove it to me. And you're you're

1592
00:52:30,179 --> 00:52:30,679
so

1593
00:52:31,229 --> 00:52:34,022
you're so involved in your hunting world that

1594
00:52:34,022 --> 00:52:35,619
that you wanna know like you said dry

1595
00:52:35,619 --> 00:52:37,135
fire 10 times on the deer with... If

1596
00:52:37,215 --> 00:52:38,731
I saw a big ads deer, like, you're

1597
00:52:38,731 --> 00:52:40,183
kinda deer if I would be able to

1598
00:52:40,183 --> 00:52:42,101
drive for 10 times. Well, here's the difference

1599
00:52:42,101 --> 00:52:44,818
though. I've seen that dear 10 times exactly

1600
00:52:44,818 --> 00:52:45,377
summer. Yeah.

1601
00:52:46,016 --> 00:52:47,395
I know that if

1602
00:52:47,709 --> 00:52:49,785
If the situation is not right today. Yeah

1603
00:52:49,864 --> 00:52:51,621
I'm a kill tomorrow. So pretend like I

1604
00:52:51,621 --> 00:52:52,978
can seat for here, there's 1 of those

1605
00:52:52,978 --> 00:52:54,494
fu that spent have much money on a

1606
00:52:54,494 --> 00:52:56,091
vortex razor Gen 3, and they got it

1607
00:52:56,091 --> 00:52:57,619
up on top of their rifle, And they

1608
00:52:57,619 --> 00:52:59,923
just... They don't wanna know if it's gonna

1609
00:52:59,923 --> 00:53:00,717
hold 0 not. I mean,

1610
00:53:01,750 --> 00:53:03,021
what are they doing that? How are they...

1611
00:53:03,181 --> 00:53:05,187
How are they, you know, hitting handicap themselves

1612
00:53:05,187 --> 00:53:06,384
or what would you say to those people

1613
00:53:06,384 --> 00:53:08,938
out there that don't believe in drop testing

1614
00:53:08,938 --> 00:53:09,416
your rifle.

1615
00:53:11,092 --> 00:53:13,661
I mean, did not believe that the world's

1616
00:53:13,661 --> 00:53:15,736
around because you can't see the curve. Like,

1617
00:53:15,976 --> 00:53:17,353
I mean, seriously.

1618
00:53:18,609 --> 00:53:20,858
It's real easy to test for yourself. Like,

1619
00:53:21,097 --> 00:53:23,482
get go get a very soft padded cushion.

1620
00:53:23,720 --> 00:53:26,503
A very large soft padded cushion. Mh. Drop

1621
00:53:26,503 --> 00:53:27,775
that gun a few times and see if

1622
00:53:27,775 --> 00:53:30,023
it moved. Yeah. But the sad reality is

1623
00:53:30,023 --> 00:53:31,621
that guy probably also doesn't even have a

1624
00:53:31,621 --> 00:53:32,660
good 0. True.

1625
00:53:33,539 --> 00:53:36,016
Very true. Like, you your shit so wrong

1626
00:53:36,016 --> 00:53:37,710
that you can't tell what right is. Yeah.

1627
00:53:37,949 --> 00:53:40,190
I talked to a really good, pretty dang

1628
00:53:40,190 --> 00:53:41,469
good competitive shooter 2 day,

1629
00:53:42,349 --> 00:53:43,710
and we were talking about the drop test,

1630
00:53:43,869 --> 00:53:45,469
and he was a non believer before.

1631
00:53:46,124 --> 00:53:47,401
He's like, you what, You know what I

1632
00:53:47,401 --> 00:53:48,998
what, clicked me into it. And he goes,

1633
00:53:49,157 --> 00:53:50,754
I got around to these shoots, and he

1634
00:53:50,754 --> 00:53:51,653
goes, I

1635
00:53:52,350 --> 00:53:54,585
took a drop test, and I did my

1636
00:53:54,585 --> 00:53:56,987
testing in found this this particular scope did

1637
00:53:56,987 --> 00:53:58,894
hold 0 and Rocks I confirmed to hold

1638
00:53:58,894 --> 00:53:59,054
0,

1639
00:53:59,768 --> 00:54:01,040
he said, when I go to the range

1640
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:02,471
and he goes, I'm talking about some other

1641
00:54:02,471 --> 00:54:03,424
high level shooters.

1642
00:54:04,313 --> 00:54:06,779
I go. I shoot the 900 yard target.

1643
00:54:07,177 --> 00:54:08,927
I shoot the maybe shoot the 1200 yard

1644
00:54:08,927 --> 00:54:10,597
target. He goes and I'm done z.

1645
00:54:11,408 --> 00:54:13,157
These guys are out there 0 for 2

1646
00:54:13,157 --> 00:54:15,623
and 3 fucking hours. Yep. Because they get

1647
00:54:15,623 --> 00:54:17,771
to a particular shoot and their guns not

1648
00:54:17,771 --> 00:54:19,282
0. He goes minus. Yep.

1649
00:54:20,012 --> 00:54:21,282
Mine 0 just like it was at home.

1650
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:23,899
Yep. I don't see why that they're not

1651
00:54:23,899 --> 00:54:25,644
catching onto that unless they don't want to

1652
00:54:25,644 --> 00:54:27,408
or they're paid not to be. Yeah. They're

1653
00:54:27,408 --> 00:54:28,606
not paid... They're paid not to see it.

1654
00:54:28,765 --> 00:54:30,601
Well, the frustrating thing is that it's such

1655
00:54:30,601 --> 00:54:32,378
an easy thing to prove

1656
00:54:32,915 --> 00:54:34,671
1 way or the other. It's not hard

1657
00:54:34,671 --> 00:54:35,150
to prove.

1658
00:54:35,724 --> 00:54:37,243
It's not hard to make sure your zeros

1659
00:54:37,243 --> 00:54:38,122
is actually right.

1660
00:54:39,001 --> 00:54:40,599
It's not hard to make sure your scope

1661
00:54:40,599 --> 00:54:41,239
holds 0.

1662
00:54:42,038 --> 00:54:43,636
Everybody has the equipment they need to do

1663
00:54:43,636 --> 00:54:44,275
it. Mh.

1664
00:54:45,328 --> 00:54:47,079
I don't know what the reluctance is. So

1665
00:54:47,079 --> 00:54:48,353
if you guys haven't it seen a drop

1666
00:54:48,353 --> 00:54:49,865
test at action, we do have a... We're...

1667
00:54:50,024 --> 00:54:51,059
We do have a video We've been working

1668
00:54:51,059 --> 00:54:52,650
on for a damn long time now basis.

1669
00:54:52,904 --> 00:54:54,421
Got 2 videos of throwing guns on the

1670
00:54:54,421 --> 00:54:56,098
ground. If you wanna check my. Jump on

1671
00:54:56,257 --> 00:54:56,757
Dion

1672
00:54:57,455 --> 00:54:58,732
Instagram there, and he filmed it, and he

1673
00:54:58,732 --> 00:55:00,350
did a very good job demonstrating

1674
00:55:00,728 --> 00:55:02,245
exactly what it goes through during the test.

1675
00:55:02,658 --> 00:55:06,075
And yeah. Dion actually above and beyond.

1676
00:55:06,631 --> 00:55:08,300
In the drop test. It's even more than

1677
00:55:08,300 --> 00:55:09,730
we actually do on Rock slide.

1678
00:55:10,301 --> 00:55:12,444
Because you're fucking ground was it's getting harder.

1679
00:55:12,603 --> 00:55:15,143
Yeah. Yeah. That got ounces. So that got...

1680
00:55:15,460 --> 00:55:17,127
Well, what's bad. I did. So I did

1681
00:55:17,127 --> 00:55:19,617
it. I did a 9 drop drop test

1682
00:55:19,617 --> 00:55:20,816
right before that,

1683
00:55:21,695 --> 00:55:23,693
and I didn't... Like, I had the camera

1684
00:55:23,693 --> 00:55:25,291
set up wrong. Because I'm I'm literally just

1685
00:55:25,291 --> 00:55:27,463
taking my phones enough... Phone scope, the all

1686
00:55:27,463 --> 00:55:28,979
una adapter or whatever. And then I'm I'm,

1687
00:55:29,059 --> 00:55:30,495
like, flicking my screen to where it does

1688
00:55:30,495 --> 00:55:32,809
the selfie camera, and then I I turned

1689
00:55:32,809 --> 00:55:34,485
my spotting scope around, and that's my that's

1690
00:55:34,485 --> 00:55:36,645
my phone holder tripod. Yeah. But I had

1691
00:55:36,645 --> 00:55:37,916
it set up to where, like, you couldn't

1692
00:55:37,916 --> 00:55:39,424
see the gun actually hit the ground like

1693
00:55:39,424 --> 00:55:40,932
oh, shitty. And I shot it and it,

1694
00:55:41,012 --> 00:55:42,520
like, hit it didn't hit the center of

1695
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:44,443
the center like, the the 1 I post

1696
00:55:44,443 --> 00:55:46,199
did, but it hit the bottom, like, cut

1697
00:55:46,199 --> 00:55:47,235
the line on the jaw.

1698
00:55:48,034 --> 00:55:50,906
And and that 1 was nasty. The gun

1699
00:55:50,906 --> 00:55:53,462
bounced hard. Like get bounced back up to,

1700
00:55:53,541 --> 00:55:55,286
like, knee height from a waist height drop.

1701
00:55:55,445 --> 00:55:57,507
And I'm like, I cringe when I did

1702
00:55:57,507 --> 00:56:00,068
it odd freaking form text me Like, did

1703
00:56:00,068 --> 00:56:01,822
you see that drop? Did you sue the

1704
00:56:01,822 --> 00:56:03,734
fountain it was way worse on the first

1705
00:56:03,734 --> 00:56:05,487
1, but you couldn't see the gun hit

1706
00:56:05,487 --> 00:56:07,097
the ground. I'm like, that's not good enough.

1707
00:56:07,336 --> 00:56:08,931
There's a bunch of nay say out there

1708
00:56:08,931 --> 00:56:10,447
gonna talk shit if they can't see the

1709
00:56:10,447 --> 00:56:12,042
whole thing. Yeah. So it's like, I want

1710
00:56:12,122 --> 00:56:14,116
I want all of the carnage to be

1711
00:56:14,116 --> 00:56:15,812
visible. Mh. And

1712
00:56:16,762 --> 00:56:17,957
Yeah. I mean, I...

1713
00:56:18,913 --> 00:56:20,825
There's a lot less weird shit that happens

1714
00:56:20,825 --> 00:56:23,135
when all your stuff works. Yeah. So we...

1715
00:56:23,693 --> 00:56:25,366
That onto your story. We were up shooting.

1716
00:56:25,859 --> 00:56:27,714
At the school. Yeah. And form

1717
00:56:28,092 --> 00:56:29,846
a rock like fell that he was standing

1718
00:56:29,846 --> 00:56:32,398
on, and he had the 03:08 wooden gun

1719
00:56:32,398 --> 00:56:32,898
the.

1720
00:56:33,275 --> 00:56:35,362
Yeah. Western 2 by 4 gun. No. The

1721
00:56:35,681 --> 00:56:36,659
Montana. Oh.

1722
00:56:37,592 --> 00:56:38,867
And he had that m on it and

1723
00:56:38,867 --> 00:56:40,619
it fell. Like it fell. He dropped it.

1724
00:56:40,777 --> 00:56:41,972
There's a couple more cubes in there if

1725
00:56:41,972 --> 00:56:43,326
you want. He fucking bent.

1726
00:56:43,898 --> 00:56:46,289
The fucking front of it in. Mh. And

1727
00:56:46,289 --> 00:56:48,042
went and check 0 steals 0. No. Shit.

1728
00:56:48,281 --> 00:56:49,795
But that goes back to this, people say,

1729
00:56:49,875 --> 00:56:51,641
why do you do it? Well, I don't

1730
00:56:51,641 --> 00:56:53,068
know. I would guess I'm the clumsy just

1731
00:56:53,068 --> 00:56:53,624
hunter in the world.

1732
00:56:54,338 --> 00:56:56,242
I fall on my gun. I'd knocked my

1733
00:56:56,242 --> 00:56:58,883
gun over. My gun rides around in a

1734
00:56:58,938 --> 00:57:00,789
truck that fucking gets bounced around on truck.

1735
00:57:01,029 --> 00:57:03,190
A horse side by side of quad. Goats,

1736
00:57:03,589 --> 00:57:03,829
quad.

1737
00:57:04,630 --> 00:57:07,269
I'm millennium... I want to eliminate every variable

1738
00:57:07,429 --> 00:57:08,789
I have because I don't know people know

1739
00:57:08,789 --> 00:57:10,630
this, but public land hunting does not getting

1740
00:57:10,630 --> 00:57:12,294
easier. So when I get that shot of

1741
00:57:12,294 --> 00:57:13,958
the lifetime, I wanna know that fucker 0.

1742
00:57:14,592 --> 00:57:16,905
My my whole thing behind it is. I

1743
00:57:16,905 --> 00:57:20,156
put way too goddamn much into every 1

1744
00:57:20,156 --> 00:57:23,170
of the deer I kill. Like, I you

1745
00:57:23,170 --> 00:57:25,335
almost can't even claim skill on it. It...

1746
00:57:25,574 --> 00:57:28,295
It's embarrassing how many hours I put into

1747
00:57:28,295 --> 00:57:31,014
killing 1 deer. Mh. Like, I put more

1748
00:57:31,014 --> 00:57:33,175
hours into killing the buck I killed last

1749
00:57:33,175 --> 00:57:35,267
year. Then most people will into the next

1750
00:57:35,267 --> 00:57:36,546
10 hunting season. Mh.

1751
00:57:37,824 --> 00:57:40,061
I'm not gonna fuck that up for anything.

1752
00:57:40,541 --> 00:57:42,552
I'd have a question about that. Did you

1753
00:57:42,552 --> 00:57:43,189
drop test your bow?

1754
00:57:46,535 --> 00:57:48,526
I've dropped it before but those things are

1755
00:57:48,526 --> 00:57:50,677
fragile and you gotta be careful. More importantly.

1756
00:57:50,836 --> 00:57:52,047
Did you drive fire it first.

1757
00:57:54,041 --> 00:57:54,780
Did you.

1758
00:57:55,477 --> 00:57:57,630
I I just... I have it on video.

1759
00:57:58,109 --> 00:58:00,023
I drew on that I drew on that

1760
00:58:00,023 --> 00:58:02,433
buck 5 or 6 times. Okay. Ward was

1761
00:58:02,433 --> 00:58:04,989
across the canyon filming me. Every time I'd

1762
00:58:04,989 --> 00:58:06,587
stand up, and III didn't I didn't have

1763
00:58:06,587 --> 00:58:08,105
a shot while he was bed. U.

1764
00:58:08,759 --> 00:58:10,512
So this is some crazy shit. Like, I

1765
00:58:10,512 --> 00:58:12,186
was above that buck for 3 hours and

1766
00:58:12,186 --> 00:58:14,657
the whole time I'm I'm thinking, like, how

1767
00:58:14,657 --> 00:58:17,304
can I make my situation better? I I

1768
00:58:17,304 --> 00:58:20,025
literally climbed out of the rock I was

1769
00:58:20,025 --> 00:58:23,144
sitting in above that buck and grabbed other

1770
00:58:23,144 --> 00:58:25,794
rocks to stack. Down to make flat footing.

1771
00:58:25,954 --> 00:58:27,948
So I'd, like, a flat stable place to

1772
00:58:27,948 --> 00:58:30,101
stand up to shoot from. So you also

1773
00:58:30,101 --> 00:58:32,095
dig your shooting spots, but you also built

1774
00:58:32,095 --> 00:58:33,850
up your Yeah. I I built I build

1775
00:58:33,850 --> 00:58:36,285
a shooting position for archer tree shots too

1776
00:58:36,744 --> 00:58:40,025
for form. Like, I was I was as

1777
00:58:40,025 --> 00:58:42,025
as form likes to say gaming every bit

1778
00:58:42,025 --> 00:58:43,713
of it. So I, like, I built a

1779
00:58:43,713 --> 00:58:46,098
flat stable shoot... Standing position to shoot from.

1780
00:58:46,337 --> 00:58:47,848
I took my quiver off because it was

1781
00:58:47,848 --> 00:58:49,757
pretty windy. I laid arrows out in front

1782
00:58:49,757 --> 00:58:51,682
of me. I was ready to western on

1783
00:58:51,682 --> 00:58:53,598
that bike. You could say you were stacking

1784
00:58:53,598 --> 00:58:55,273
the odds in your face. I was stacking

1785
00:58:55,273 --> 00:58:56,411
out on my favor

1786
00:58:56,789 --> 00:58:57,289
and

1787
00:58:57,667 --> 00:58:58,167
and

1788
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:00,640
While that buck was embedded, and I could

1789
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:02,400
just see, like, half of his body,

1790
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:04,720
I would stand up and draw my book.

1791
00:59:05,039 --> 00:59:07,695
Far. 82 yards. I bought the boat 2

1792
00:59:07,695 --> 00:59:08,335
weeks before it.

1793
00:59:08,974 --> 00:59:10,494
You shot the deer at 82 yard? Yeah.

1794
00:59:10,815 --> 00:59:12,815
Holy shit. And it was Robbie that said,

1795
00:59:12,894 --> 00:59:13,855
why don't you use bow on it? Yeah.

1796
00:59:14,015 --> 00:59:15,215
It was Robbie that talked to me into

1797
00:59:15,295 --> 00:59:16,929
Bow hunting it. But

1798
00:59:17,387 --> 00:59:18,984
I... Like I said, I drew on that

1799
00:59:18,984 --> 00:59:20,820
buck 5 or 6 times because I'm, like,

1800
00:59:21,459 --> 00:59:23,215
I don't want the first time I shoot

1801
00:59:23,215 --> 00:59:24,892
at this buck to be the first time

1802
00:59:24,972 --> 00:59:27,142
I've looked at him through a keep Mh,

1803
00:59:27,381 --> 00:59:29,695
and a sight. Yeah. Because every... I know

1804
00:59:29,775 --> 00:59:32,010
I... Because I know from experience, every time

1805
00:59:32,169 --> 00:59:33,685
I put cross hairs on a big buck,

1806
00:59:34,099 --> 00:59:35,614
and I dry fire on them. I get

1807
00:59:35,614 --> 00:59:37,766
a little bit less nervous. Well, so 82...

1808
00:59:38,085 --> 00:59:39,838
Some people might say the 82 yards, you

1809
00:59:39,838 --> 00:59:42,723
know, is borderline 9. Like, 800 yards. Is

1810
00:59:42,723 --> 00:59:43,998
borderline, let's call you out. Was called it

1811
00:59:43,998 --> 00:59:45,910
a 800 yard fucking rifle shot. From a

1812
00:59:45,910 --> 00:59:47,583
guy and you're telling everybody you just bought

1813
00:59:47,583 --> 00:59:49,677
this boat 2 weeks. I mean, how practiced

1814
00:59:50,068 --> 00:59:51,998
I know how you are, but how practiced

1815
00:59:52,055 --> 00:59:54,859
were you before that moment. So in

1816
00:59:56,584 --> 00:59:58,753
I shot 2 or 3 times every single

1817
00:59:58,753 --> 01:00:01,090
day, leading up to that. And

1818
01:00:01,549 --> 01:00:02,828
you made your drone arrows and all that

1819
01:00:02,828 --> 01:00:04,506
shit? Yeah. All my shit was dialed in.

1820
01:00:04,666 --> 01:00:04,905
Yeah.

1821
01:00:06,038 --> 01:00:07,788
My cousin who's pretty much the reason I

1822
01:00:07,788 --> 01:00:10,175
got serious into hunting that that, like, helped

1823
01:00:10,175 --> 01:00:11,766
me get started in all of this.

1824
01:00:13,293 --> 01:00:15,361
Got, like 2009 ish.

1825
01:00:16,077 --> 01:00:16,577
He

1826
01:00:17,032 --> 01:00:19,179
was a professional competitive archer.

1827
01:00:19,975 --> 01:00:22,559
And I started as a bow hunter. And

1828
01:00:22,697 --> 01:00:24,690
I used to shoot the ever living shit

1829
01:00:24,690 --> 01:00:26,364
out of a bow. Okay. So you were

1830
01:00:26,364 --> 01:00:28,199
a bow hunter at 1 time. And I

1831
01:00:28,199 --> 01:00:30,590
would shoot competitively. I'd shoot lee, because I'd

1832
01:00:30,590 --> 01:00:32,595
go to 5 hour 3, like, 3 d

1833
01:00:32,595 --> 01:00:35,300
shoots a year. Like, I shot leagues every

1834
01:00:35,300 --> 01:00:37,289
single week for 3 or 4 years. Mh.

1835
01:00:37,528 --> 01:00:39,119
Like, I I could shoot a bow. So

1836
01:00:39,119 --> 01:00:41,048
it wasn't like It wasn't like I just

1837
01:00:41,048 --> 01:00:43,206
got into bow hunting. I knew I knew

1838
01:00:43,206 --> 01:00:45,204
how to shoot a bow. I have really,

1839
01:00:45,364 --> 01:00:48,480
really good form. The muscle memory still there,

1840
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:50,483
like, definitely not as good as I used

1841
01:00:50,483 --> 01:00:52,309
to be. K. But I shot like I

1842
01:00:52,309 --> 01:00:54,135
said, 3 times a day every single day.

1843
01:00:54,452 --> 01:00:56,596
You you weren't a beginner at that point.

1844
01:00:56,849 --> 01:00:58,440
And the last arrows out of that bow,

1845
01:00:58,679 --> 01:01:02,338
I shot, 2 arrow group at 70 yards,

1846
01:01:02,577 --> 01:01:04,406
and the arrows were touching with my Broad

1847
01:01:04,406 --> 01:01:05,043
heads. So it's like,

1848
01:01:05,775 --> 01:01:07,614
and and the shoot 2, like, the the

1849
01:01:07,614 --> 01:01:09,775
corrected distance for the angle was 69 yards.

1850
01:01:09,934 --> 01:01:11,135
So it's like, that was as far as

1851
01:01:11,214 --> 01:01:12,734
I had pins too. So it's like, I

1852
01:01:12,734 --> 01:01:13,190
know

1853
01:01:13,626 --> 01:01:15,851
my shit is right at that distance. And

1854
01:01:15,851 --> 01:01:17,146
the last time I shot

1855
01:01:17,679 --> 01:01:19,824
and not really that distance, but that corrected

1856
01:01:19,824 --> 01:01:20,324
distance

1857
01:01:20,794 --> 01:01:22,151
like the arrows were touching. So it's like,

1858
01:01:22,470 --> 01:01:24,704
if I feel calm, I know I'm capable

1859
01:01:24,704 --> 01:01:26,700
of making the shot. And the 1 thing

1860
01:01:26,780 --> 01:01:28,376
I've got from shooting a lot of big

1861
01:01:28,376 --> 01:01:28,536
deer,

1862
01:01:29,189 --> 01:01:31,027
is a pretty good nerve for shooting big

1863
01:01:31,027 --> 01:01:31,107
deer.

1864
01:01:32,065 --> 01:01:33,744
Like, when I shoot at an animal, it's

1865
01:01:33,744 --> 01:01:35,101
as good as I can shoot when I'm

1866
01:01:35,101 --> 01:01:37,429
not shooting an animal, which is the thing

1867
01:01:37,429 --> 01:01:38,938
a lot of people struggle with. Like a

1868
01:01:38,938 --> 01:01:40,447
lot of people fall apart when it comes

1869
01:01:40,447 --> 01:01:41,797
to that last critical moment.

1870
01:01:42,830 --> 01:01:45,530
But I know I can build my situation

1871
01:01:45,530 --> 01:01:46,189
to where

1872
01:01:46,579 --> 01:01:48,653
I can be calm in that situation. You

1873
01:01:48,653 --> 01:01:49,930
were just on the front of a magazine

1874
01:01:49,930 --> 01:01:51,685
2 what Magazine was that? Western hunter Magazine.

1875
01:01:51,845 --> 01:01:53,201
And how big was that deer?

1876
01:01:54,093 --> 01:01:56,081
So when I when I scored them that

1877
01:01:56,081 --> 01:01:56,581
night

1878
01:01:57,036 --> 01:01:59,820
with 3 other people there, I got 02:16

1879
01:01:59,820 --> 01:02:01,666
and a half, but I he broke a

1880
01:02:01,666 --> 01:02:03,736
tying off when he fell. He chipped another

1881
01:02:03,736 --> 01:02:06,046
tin, and I scored a time that was

1882
01:02:06,046 --> 01:02:07,479
an inch... Almost an inch and a half,

1883
01:02:07,638 --> 01:02:08,912
but technically not sc.

1884
01:02:09,724 --> 01:02:12,991
His his actual official boone crockett score with

1885
01:02:12,991 --> 01:02:15,701
the Velvet stripped after the drying period was

1886
01:02:15,701 --> 01:02:19,550
02:04 and something. Okay. Like, official score scored

1887
01:02:19,550 --> 01:02:21,410
him. I think if he had a broke

1888
01:02:21,710 --> 01:02:23,950
and and fallen off, he'd have been, like,

1889
01:02:24,110 --> 01:02:26,030
02:08 ish. And where does that fall in

1890
01:02:26,030 --> 01:02:26,510
the book there?

1891
01:02:27,482 --> 01:02:29,235
Biggest shit for archer tree. U.

1892
01:02:30,271 --> 01:02:32,581
There's a lot bigger bucks that official category.

1893
01:02:32,980 --> 01:02:34,675
What's that? Biggest shit for,

1894
01:02:36,899 --> 01:02:39,473
I I don't I don't know. The whole

1895
01:02:39,850 --> 01:02:42,323
separate scoring system for archer tree feels like

1896
01:02:42,323 --> 01:02:44,157
a fucking consolation prize to me. I think

1897
01:02:44,157 --> 01:02:46,072
it's stupid. I think Boone Crockett gets the

1898
01:02:46,072 --> 01:02:48,483
official scoring body. I would agree. I think

1899
01:02:48,483 --> 01:02:50,640
if it doesn't... If it doesn't score official

1900
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:53,277
boone and crockett net, then it's not. Mh.

1901
01:02:53,597 --> 01:02:55,275
It... I mean, it's still a huge book.

1902
01:02:55,515 --> 01:02:57,839
It's I'm not taking anything away from from

1903
01:02:57,839 --> 01:03:00,624
any buck scores over 200 inches. But like,

1904
01:03:01,579 --> 01:03:02,874
not net non typical

1905
01:03:03,661 --> 01:03:05,092
awards is 02:15

1906
01:03:05,171 --> 01:03:06,284
Mh. Per boone and Crockett.

1907
01:03:07,475 --> 01:03:07,975
So

1908
01:03:08,588 --> 01:03:09,565
it had to be

1909
01:03:09,938 --> 01:03:12,337
the biggest year or 1 of the top

1910
01:03:12,337 --> 01:03:13,527
2 in the state last year.

1911
01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:16,227
I don't know of any bigger deer killed

1912
01:03:16,306 --> 01:03:18,450
Idaho last year. I was asking Jim because

1913
01:03:18,450 --> 01:03:20,117
he's feels it was a tough. Like, I'm

1914
01:03:20,117 --> 01:03:22,278
pretty sure Dion the biggest deer shot in

1915
01:03:22,358 --> 01:03:24,666
I do. Yeah. For sure with the bow,

1916
01:03:24,905 --> 01:03:25,382
Badass ass.

1917
01:03:26,178 --> 01:03:26,417
Yeah.

1918
01:03:27,372 --> 01:03:28,407
That is so badass.

1919
01:03:29,619 --> 01:03:31,936
Speaking of killing Big deer, we should probably

1920
01:03:31,936 --> 01:03:33,396
talk a little bit about your

1921
01:03:33,934 --> 01:03:36,113
your online subscription you're gonna maybe

1922
01:03:36,492 --> 01:03:38,250
do for us. We're we're thinking about doing

1923
01:03:38,250 --> 01:03:38,330
thing.

1924
01:03:39,538 --> 01:03:40,649
It's kinda like only fans.

1925
01:03:42,315 --> 01:03:44,220
It's gonna fall feet. Still a lot of

1926
01:03:44,220 --> 01:03:44,458
feet.

1927
01:03:46,377 --> 01:03:47,647
What is the deal with the feet of

1928
01:03:47,647 --> 01:03:49,234
session guys? Is that do anything for you?

1929
01:03:49,472 --> 01:03:50,979
I don't I don't have it either So

1930
01:03:51,138 --> 01:03:52,963
I don't fucking get. Feet kinda gross my

1931
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:53,835
Yeah. Me too.

1932
01:03:55,284 --> 01:03:56,642
That's what they'll. That's what the foot look...

1933
01:03:56,882 --> 01:03:58,160
What the foot looks good. It still grow.

1934
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:00,238
So I don't even know. There are some

1935
01:04:00,238 --> 01:04:02,076
gross fucking floating out there. I don't wanna

1936
01:04:02,076 --> 01:04:03,250
see them even if they are good.

1937
01:04:03,848 --> 01:04:04,726
IIII

1938
01:04:04,726 --> 01:04:06,242
say this that I have never looked at

1939
01:04:06,242 --> 01:04:08,396
this stuff, but I hear stuff. The dudes

1940
01:04:08,396 --> 01:04:11,044
pay more for chicks with hairy feet. No

1941
01:04:11,044 --> 01:04:12,722
shit. Yeah. Fuck. I got hairy feet. Let's

1942
01:04:12,722 --> 01:04:14,320
get out Yeah. I'm on that place. Do

1943
01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:16,398
it. But fuck check. What fuck you have

1944
01:04:16,398 --> 01:04:18,257
hobbit you have hobbit feet. Let's

1945
01:04:18,636 --> 01:04:20,489
check those tricks. Well to say you're a

1946
01:04:20,489 --> 01:04:21,130
check with her...

1947
01:04:22,170 --> 01:04:23,289
How the fuck do they know it's a

1948
01:04:23,289 --> 01:04:25,529
foot? Yes. They wouldn't. Yeah. They're also fucking

1949
01:04:25,529 --> 01:04:27,210
her fart in jars and shipping them Dude.

1950
01:04:27,369 --> 01:04:29,144
I can get down with the heart. You

1951
01:04:29,144 --> 01:04:30,763
can make some money that way,

1952
01:04:32,740 --> 01:04:33,939
like, how do you know it's a chick

1953
01:04:33,939 --> 01:04:35,457
fart when it shows up Right? You know

1954
01:04:35,457 --> 01:04:37,670
there's don't? Yeah. He just says her far

1955
01:04:37,789 --> 01:04:39,380
don't stink and hand you a jar nothing

1956
01:04:39,380 --> 01:04:40,017
in? Yeah.

1957
01:04:40,654 --> 01:04:42,643
Good. Let's say. Hey, how do they know

1958
01:04:42,643 --> 01:04:44,952
it's a woman's foot? If they want hairy

1959
01:04:44,952 --> 01:04:46,623
feet if they pay more for hairy feet,

1960
01:04:47,594 --> 01:04:49,350
I'm in. That's what I heard. Yeah. Yeah,

1961
01:04:49,510 --> 01:04:51,186
Jesus. We're have to bring some cameras I

1962
01:04:51,186 --> 01:04:51,905
went downhill quick.

1963
01:04:53,661 --> 01:04:55,736
So so, y, You're gonna have this class.

1964
01:04:55,976 --> 01:04:58,140
Yeah. So I'm working I'm working with the

1965
01:04:58,140 --> 01:05:00,230
shoot to hunt guys, and I'm gonna... I'm

1966
01:05:00,445 --> 01:05:02,989
I'm going to more than just tell people

1967
01:05:02,989 --> 01:05:04,976
things to look for. I'm gonna explain a

1968
01:05:04,976 --> 01:05:05,476
process

1969
01:05:06,422 --> 01:05:08,431
for how to find areas

1970
01:05:08,884 --> 01:05:10,711
and ways to be as effective as you

1971
01:05:10,711 --> 01:05:11,028
can be.

1972
01:05:11,743 --> 01:05:13,967
Because it's not just like, here's the here's

1973
01:05:13,967 --> 01:05:15,158
the methods I use.

1974
01:05:16,048 --> 01:05:18,044
Because the methods I use don't work for

1975
01:05:18,044 --> 01:05:19,342
everybody else because

1976
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:21,875
a big part of where the best place

1977
01:05:21,875 --> 01:05:23,391
to hunt is where you live.

1978
01:05:24,604 --> 01:05:26,462
And you wanna have

1979
01:05:26,921 --> 01:05:29,157
as much access to the deer you hunt

1980
01:05:29,157 --> 01:05:31,016
as you possibly can. And there's value

1981
01:05:31,568 --> 01:05:34,457
that is not proportionally placed to

1982
01:05:34,992 --> 01:05:36,903
what's the best place I can hunt, not

1983
01:05:36,903 --> 01:05:39,053
necessarily the best place everybody can hunt regionally.

1984
01:05:39,292 --> 01:05:40,819
I mean, it's it's not a 1 to

1985
01:05:40,819 --> 01:05:42,729
1. Like, the best unit in the country

1986
01:05:42,729 --> 01:05:44,480
that's not close to you that you can't

1987
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:47,185
hunt every decade is not the best unit.

1988
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:48,956
The best unit you can hunt is the

1989
01:05:48,956 --> 01:05:51,112
closest 1 to your house that produces reasonably

1990
01:05:51,112 --> 01:05:53,028
good meal there. That's the place you're gonna

1991
01:05:53,028 --> 01:05:54,385
be most. What you say the best tag

1992
01:05:54,385 --> 01:05:56,301
in the state was earlier? The best tag

1993
01:05:56,301 --> 01:05:56,780
for me.

1994
01:05:57,514 --> 01:05:59,587
Is a general Idaho deer tag. That is

1995
01:05:59,587 --> 01:06:00,704
the best tag in the state as far

1996
01:06:00,704 --> 01:06:01,342
as I'm concerned.

1997
01:06:02,458 --> 01:06:04,134
But so we're gonna have we're gonna have

1998
01:06:04,134 --> 01:06:06,367
the online shooting school that he just talked

1999
01:06:06,367 --> 01:06:06,925
about with form.

2000
01:06:07,657 --> 01:06:09,646
We're gonna have Jake's reloading class.

2001
01:06:10,442 --> 01:06:12,829
We're gonna have Dion Mo tag, the 1

2002
01:06:12,829 --> 01:06:15,309
in only, his meal dear class. I'm pretty

2003
01:06:15,309 --> 01:06:17,132
sure I got Robbie and hook doing his

2004
01:06:17,132 --> 01:06:18,956
because the thing is is you know this

2005
01:06:19,036 --> 01:06:21,018
Robbie hunts 1000 percent different than you in

2006
01:06:21,018 --> 01:06:21,970
my opinion. Oh Well,

2007
01:06:22,778 --> 01:06:25,005
honestly, he hunts a lot the same. Like,

2008
01:06:25,085 --> 01:06:26,596
there... There's a lot different, but a lot

2009
01:06:26,596 --> 01:06:27,869
the same. And I look at it and

2010
01:06:27,869 --> 01:06:29,777
and from the outside looking in, it would

2011
01:06:29,777 --> 01:06:30,652
look a lot different.

2012
01:06:31,464 --> 01:06:33,060
But I think if you put me in

2013
01:06:33,060 --> 01:06:35,294
his situation, I would be doing things away

2014
01:06:35,294 --> 01:06:36,970
he does it because he lives in a

2015
01:06:36,970 --> 01:06:39,458
different place. Right. He hunts different units. He

2016
01:06:39,458 --> 01:06:41,532
hunts different with his lifestyle? He has he

2017
01:06:41,532 --> 01:06:43,128
has different... That's... And that's part of it

2018
01:06:43,128 --> 01:06:45,440
too. Like, part of the formula is what

2019
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:46,477
resources do you have?

2020
01:06:47,275 --> 01:06:48,870
I mean, can you ride a dirt bike?

2021
01:06:49,522 --> 01:06:50,477
Do you have horses?

2022
01:06:51,114 --> 01:06:52,467
Are you in good shape? Are you in

2023
01:06:52,467 --> 01:06:54,456
bad shape? Like all of these things are

2024
01:06:54,456 --> 01:06:57,481
are critically important deciding factors and where and

2025
01:06:57,481 --> 01:06:58,197
how you should hunt?

2026
01:06:58,929 --> 01:06:59,168
Like,

2027
01:07:00,045 --> 01:07:01,720
do you have a boat? There's a lot

2028
01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:03,475
of great places that you can drive across

2029
01:07:03,475 --> 01:07:05,628
a lake and be all by yourself? Like,

2030
01:07:06,027 --> 01:07:08,362
the... It's it's not necessarily

2031
01:07:09,072 --> 01:07:10,743
This is how I hunt. This is how

2032
01:07:10,743 --> 01:07:13,608
you should hunt. It's here's how I look

2033
01:07:13,608 --> 01:07:16,256
at things. Here's the lens I look at

2034
01:07:16,313 --> 01:07:17,348
opportunities through.

2035
01:07:18,558 --> 01:07:21,113
And here's the different filters I apply to

2036
01:07:21,113 --> 01:07:24,327
these different opportunities because, like, there's some opportunities

2037
01:07:24,386 --> 01:07:26,461
that I'm not willing to invest the time

2038
01:07:26,461 --> 01:07:29,032
energy and resources into, and there's other opportunities

2039
01:07:29,032 --> 01:07:30,791
that I am. So it's... And I was

2040
01:07:30,951 --> 01:07:32,309
I was talking with Luke about this when

2041
01:07:32,309 --> 01:07:33,588
we were talking about how to how to

2042
01:07:33,588 --> 01:07:35,846
build out this program and the curriculum.

2043
01:07:36,478 --> 01:07:38,642
It's like, you are you are creating

2044
01:07:39,331 --> 01:07:40,678
a, I can't remember the term you used

2045
01:07:40,678 --> 01:07:41,708
for it To sound a way smarter what

2046
01:07:41,867 --> 01:07:43,001
I'm about to say, But

2047
01:07:44,025 --> 01:07:45,305
Basically, You never say that about Loop.

2048
01:07:46,905 --> 01:07:48,744
He's good at some stuff, and he's hilarious.

2049
01:07:48,985 --> 01:07:50,265
He is good. At some. He's a super

2050
01:07:50,265 --> 01:07:51,065
good dude. Yeah.

2051
01:07:52,279 --> 01:07:54,831
Basically, you need to create a filter for

2052
01:07:54,831 --> 01:07:56,905
each and every hunt that you apply...

2053
01:07:57,463 --> 01:07:59,776
Like, this is the reasoning and logic that

2054
01:07:59,856 --> 01:08:01,371
I'm gonna apply to this hunt.

2055
01:08:02,263 --> 01:08:05,203
And and this is gonna affect, like, how

2056
01:08:05,283 --> 01:08:07,111
I value certain opportunities.

2057
01:08:07,905 --> 01:08:10,369
It's not every everything is not at face

2058
01:08:10,369 --> 01:08:10,766
value,

2059
01:08:11,258 --> 01:08:12,925
Like, you can... There's a lot of great

2060
01:08:12,925 --> 01:08:15,308
resources out there, like epics phenomenal. They have

2061
01:08:15,308 --> 01:08:16,578
a lot of great information.

2062
01:08:17,372 --> 01:08:19,119
But the unit they say is the best

2063
01:08:19,119 --> 01:08:19,993
may not be the best.

2064
01:08:20,644 --> 01:08:22,793
For you. It may be the best for

2065
01:08:22,793 --> 01:08:25,819
them with with their lifestyle and how they

2066
01:08:25,819 --> 01:08:27,968
go about things and their access to the

2067
01:08:27,968 --> 01:08:28,468
area

2068
01:08:29,335 --> 01:08:32,113
but you need to understand how to value

2069
01:08:32,113 --> 01:08:35,130
certain opportunities. And I see so many people

2070
01:08:35,130 --> 01:08:37,846
sq things. Like, I I know so many

2071
01:08:37,846 --> 01:08:40,313
guys that are waiting for this this draw

2072
01:08:40,313 --> 01:08:42,221
tag before they really figure out how to

2073
01:08:42,221 --> 01:08:44,804
hunt. Like, they're waiting for... This draw opportunity

2074
01:08:44,939 --> 01:08:46,447
before they take a couple weeks off in

2075
01:08:46,447 --> 01:08:47,639
the summer to go scouting.

2076
01:08:48,194 --> 01:08:50,338
And the sad reality is that, yeah, that

2077
01:08:50,338 --> 01:08:52,664
that unit might be marginally better

2078
01:08:53,052 --> 01:08:55,117
than a general unit they have access to

2079
01:08:55,117 --> 01:08:57,578
every year. But the reality of it is

2080
01:08:57,578 --> 01:08:59,721
is that if they put that much time

2081
01:08:59,721 --> 01:09:01,627
energy and effort and resources,

2082
01:09:02,358 --> 01:09:03,653
into the general unit

2083
01:09:04,505 --> 01:09:06,891
for 2 or 3 years, the opportunity in

2084
01:09:06,891 --> 01:09:09,038
that general unit is probably better than that

2085
01:09:09,038 --> 01:09:09,515
draw unit.

2086
01:09:10,804 --> 01:09:12,717
Like the likelihood of them killing a big

2087
01:09:12,717 --> 01:09:14,948
buck is much, much, much greater in a

2088
01:09:14,948 --> 01:09:16,941
general unit most times than it is in

2089
01:09:16,941 --> 01:09:19,029
that draw unit you may never get. And

2090
01:09:19,029 --> 01:09:21,362
they just... They spend their whole

2091
01:09:22,216 --> 01:09:24,528
window of opportunity. Like, the... There's there's is

2092
01:09:24,528 --> 01:09:26,361
a window of opportunity where you are,

2093
01:09:27,011 --> 01:09:30,422
able enough and financially able enough to execute

2094
01:09:30,422 --> 01:09:31,056
on these things,

2095
01:09:32,008 --> 01:09:34,149
and they will waste their time.

2096
01:09:35,116 --> 01:09:36,569
Waiting for something

2097
01:09:37,022 --> 01:09:39,246
to happen and then not be good enough

2098
01:09:39,246 --> 01:09:40,516
to make good on that opportunity.

2099
01:09:42,104 --> 01:09:42,604
I

2100
01:09:42,993 --> 01:09:45,220
didn't, you know, Call and ask you by

2101
01:09:45,220 --> 01:09:47,288
accident. I talk hunting pretty much every day

2102
01:09:47,288 --> 01:09:48,720
just like you do just like Jake does,

2103
01:09:49,850 --> 01:09:52,649
And I don't outside of Robbie, your strategy,

2104
01:09:52,810 --> 01:09:54,510
your thought process, your meticulous

2105
01:09:55,369 --> 01:09:55,689
brain.

2106
01:09:56,569 --> 01:09:57,069
I've

2107
01:09:57,384 --> 01:09:59,457
I know there's not a lot of people

2108
01:09:59,457 --> 01:10:01,450
like you. I don't I don't mean that

2109
01:10:01,450 --> 01:10:01,929
good or bad.

2110
01:10:03,524 --> 01:10:05,836
But the way your thought process is is

2111
01:10:05,836 --> 01:10:06,075
unique.

2112
01:10:07,124 --> 01:10:07,918
Docking. Mh.

2113
01:10:08,792 --> 01:10:11,729
Yeah. We they're moose. No. It's true. Like,

2114
01:10:11,888 --> 01:10:12,627
there's no

2115
01:10:13,397 --> 01:10:14,294
lots of people

2116
01:10:14,603 --> 01:10:16,113
I would say I would throw you and

2117
01:10:16,193 --> 01:10:18,657
Robin, like, Jim. And Jim is is his

2118
01:10:18,657 --> 01:10:20,327
focus on his kids more now, so he's

2119
01:10:20,327 --> 01:10:22,155
not, you know, out there slamming and deer

2120
01:10:22,155 --> 01:10:23,847
like he could be. But

2121
01:10:24,395 --> 01:10:26,800
meticulous side of you guys. It's like almost

2122
01:10:26,855 --> 01:10:27,252
autistic.

2123
01:10:27,728 --> 01:10:30,506
Yeah. Yeah. And there's... That... And Robbie talks

2124
01:10:30,506 --> 01:10:32,093
about it a lot. Travis H who is

2125
01:10:32,093 --> 01:10:34,250
in Travis H. She's another 1 those guys

2126
01:10:34,250 --> 01:10:35,520
that I look at. It's like, that guy

2127
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:36,789
knows the shit out of how to find

2128
01:10:36,789 --> 01:10:39,328
and kill big deer. Yep. But but every

2129
01:10:39,328 --> 01:10:40,518
1 of us is so 80.

2130
01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:43,706
It's like these meals your guys are like

2131
01:10:43,706 --> 01:10:46,640
cult autistic. We all use straight spotting scope.

2132
01:10:47,829 --> 01:10:48,329
Your.

2133
01:10:49,033 --> 01:10:50,778
We're all weird. We're all weird. You might

2134
01:10:50,778 --> 01:10:52,204
dock but you're still straight. Yeah.

2135
01:10:53,394 --> 01:10:55,455
Yeah. But there's... I mean, there's so much

2136
01:10:55,455 --> 01:10:57,697
more to it than just... The the this

2137
01:10:57,697 --> 01:10:59,372
is how I do it, do it like

2138
01:10:59,372 --> 01:11:02,085
me. And and, like, I you can see

2139
01:11:02,085 --> 01:11:04,055
it with some of these guys. It's it's

2140
01:11:04,494 --> 01:11:06,814
It's really obvious for for somebody you kinda

2141
01:11:06,814 --> 01:11:08,574
knows how some of it works. It's like,

2142
01:11:08,655 --> 01:11:11,314
man, there's there is a different way of

2143
01:11:11,375 --> 01:11:13,457
operating. That some of these guys do. The

2144
01:11:13,457 --> 01:11:16,099
guys that are finding and killing big bucks

2145
01:11:16,234 --> 01:11:16,734
consistently

2146
01:11:17,265 --> 01:11:19,407
in units that nobody thinks there should be

2147
01:11:19,407 --> 01:11:20,145
big bucks

2148
01:11:20,693 --> 01:11:22,603
they're they are doing something different.

2149
01:11:23,399 --> 01:11:26,104
Do you worry talking forums worried about this.

2150
01:11:26,343 --> 01:11:28,094
So I'll bring it up. Do you worry

2151
01:11:28,094 --> 01:11:29,208
about giving up your secrets?

2152
01:11:30,659 --> 01:11:32,039
The sad reality

2153
01:11:33,060 --> 01:11:35,060
is that with all of the information in

2154
01:11:35,060 --> 01:11:38,579
the world and somebody laying everything out, most

2155
01:11:38,579 --> 01:11:40,747
people are still on buy vortex.

2156
01:11:41,225 --> 01:11:43,056
They're still... They still aren't gonna do the

2157
01:11:43,056 --> 01:11:45,047
work. There's... Like, like I was telling... I

2158
01:11:45,047 --> 01:11:46,003
don't remember if it was on the podcast

2159
01:11:46,003 --> 01:11:47,436
or not when we're were talking earlier, and

2160
01:11:47,436 --> 01:11:49,679
it's like, it's... It's embarrassing how many days

2161
01:11:49,838 --> 01:11:52,303
I spend being unsuccessful to kill 1 deer.

2162
01:11:53,019 --> 01:11:55,722
Like, the sad reality is that most people

2163
01:11:55,722 --> 01:11:57,551
still won't do the work. Like... Yeah.

2164
01:11:58,204 --> 01:12:00,685
I I hope that people will benefit greatly

2165
01:12:00,685 --> 01:12:02,845
from the information that I'm gonna share with

2166
01:12:02,845 --> 01:12:05,085
them. I hope that people feel like it's

2167
01:12:05,085 --> 01:12:07,251
worthwhile. Like, it The the thing I was

2168
01:12:07,251 --> 01:12:09,635
most concerned with when you approached me about

2169
01:12:09,635 --> 01:12:11,940
this is that can I produce something that's

2170
01:12:11,940 --> 01:12:14,246
gonna be worth somebody's hard earned money to

2171
01:12:14,246 --> 01:12:14,484
buy?

2172
01:12:15,929 --> 01:12:17,439
And I hope that people make good on

2173
01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:19,768
it, but the sad reality is that most

2174
01:12:19,824 --> 01:12:23,003
guys probably still won't do the things they

2175
01:12:23,003 --> 01:12:23,877
have to do to be.

2176
01:12:24,689 --> 01:12:27,400
To to be impacting me. At least. Mh.

2177
01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:30,192
There's... I think I hope everybody that gets

2178
01:12:30,192 --> 01:12:32,185
it's gonna find something that is absolutely making

2179
01:12:32,185 --> 01:12:34,753
it worthwhile and increases their odds sis. Yeah.

2180
01:12:35,073 --> 01:12:36,831
I think the odds of somebody being a

2181
01:12:36,831 --> 01:12:38,749
fucking weird. Some bitch like me and doing

2182
01:12:38,749 --> 01:12:40,347
what it... Doing everything I do to the

2183
01:12:40,347 --> 01:12:41,945
point where screws up a hunt for me

2184
01:12:41,945 --> 01:12:42,505
is pretty low.

2185
01:12:43,238 --> 01:12:44,748
It's funny You say, well I spent a

2186
01:12:44,748 --> 01:12:46,658
lot because Robbie explains that I am. If

2187
01:12:46,658 --> 01:12:48,646
you look at me as per day spent

2188
01:12:48,646 --> 01:12:51,135
to kill this deer. I'm a fucking terrible

2189
01:12:51,135 --> 01:12:52,494
hunter. Right I think it's funny how you

2190
01:12:52,494 --> 01:12:54,574
guys say that. But also, if... That's what

2191
01:12:54,574 --> 01:12:56,095
makes you kill the big deer in the

2192
01:12:56,095 --> 01:12:56,734
end. Yeah.

2193
01:12:57,550 --> 01:12:59,627
I like to think I can consistently produce

2194
01:12:59,627 --> 01:13:01,645
a buck that most people would be like

2195
01:13:01,783 --> 01:13:03,701
overjoyed with in the best draw unit in

2196
01:13:03,701 --> 01:13:04,580
the state of Idaho.

2197
01:13:05,313 --> 01:13:06,823
I wanna do that every single year in

2198
01:13:06,823 --> 01:13:08,573
a general unit. That's easy for Jake.

2199
01:13:10,243 --> 01:13:11,992
01:40 babies 01:40.

2200
01:13:13,439 --> 01:13:15,752
I think the sad reality is that, like,

2201
01:13:16,630 --> 01:13:19,501
I know so many guys that have every

2202
01:13:19,501 --> 01:13:22,052
skill and ability I have that don't kill

2203
01:13:22,052 --> 01:13:22,770
the deer I do.

2204
01:13:23,503 --> 01:13:25,892
I know so many guys who III

2205
01:13:25,892 --> 01:13:27,803
am not good at a lot of the

2206
01:13:27,803 --> 01:13:30,113
parts of this. Like, as I learned a

2207
01:13:30,113 --> 01:13:31,626
couple weeks ago and Have said for years,

2208
01:13:32,039 --> 01:13:33,159
I'm not the best shooter.

2209
01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:36,219
I I don't have the best vision. I'm

2210
01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:38,279
I'm not that great a glass. I'll sit

2211
01:13:38,279 --> 01:13:40,206
down with you know, I've... I take a

2212
01:13:40,206 --> 01:13:41,556
lot of other people hunting and have a

2213
01:13:41,556 --> 01:13:42,987
lot of people that I try and help

2214
01:13:42,987 --> 01:13:43,542
coach along.

2215
01:13:44,416 --> 01:13:46,164
And most of them see as many or

2216
01:13:46,164 --> 01:13:47,117
more dear than I do.

2217
01:13:48,084 --> 01:13:49,985
It's just I'm gonna be out there, the

2218
01:13:49,985 --> 01:13:51,966
whole goddamn day every day, and I'm gonna

2219
01:13:51,966 --> 01:13:53,551
do it 10 times more than them through

2220
01:13:53,551 --> 01:13:55,943
the summer. But like, there's so many people

2221
01:13:55,943 --> 01:13:58,241
that have every skill and ability that I

2222
01:13:58,241 --> 01:13:58,741
have

2223
01:13:59,668 --> 01:14:01,015
and don't get the results I do.

2224
01:14:02,300 --> 01:14:03,814
What, do you think most of them settle?

2225
01:14:04,690 --> 01:14:06,205
I think it's a lot of settling, and

2226
01:14:06,364 --> 01:14:07,720
I think it's a lot of people who

2227
01:14:07,720 --> 01:14:09,394
don't have whatever weird thing. It is my

2228
01:14:09,394 --> 01:14:11,322
brain that don't let me quit. Why we

2229
01:14:11,322 --> 01:14:12,518
talk about. There's a lot of hunters that

2230
01:14:12,518 --> 01:14:13,635
wanna go out and hunt, but they don't

2231
01:14:13,635 --> 01:14:15,708
actually wanna kill something. Yeah. So same guys

2232
01:14:15,708 --> 01:14:17,703
that don't actually wanna test drop test or

2233
01:14:17,703 --> 01:14:19,138
whatever their rifle. They don't wanna know their

2234
01:14:19,138 --> 01:14:21,068
rifle not gonna shoot. They just wanna they

2235
01:14:21,068 --> 01:14:22,424
wanna go out there with. And I do

2236
01:14:22,424 --> 01:14:24,737
think in my opinion, and I'll say this

2237
01:14:24,737 --> 01:14:27,050
as an Elk counter. I think it's easier

2238
01:14:27,050 --> 01:14:29,363
to find a decent bowl because just their

2239
01:14:29,363 --> 01:14:30,341
size, they're herd

2240
01:14:30,733 --> 01:14:32,801
to kill in a deer, and I see

2241
01:14:32,801 --> 01:14:35,108
people like, settle on Elk? And I'm like,

2242
01:14:35,267 --> 01:14:37,828
dude. Why why are you doing that? I

2243
01:14:37,828 --> 01:14:39,500
imagine it's also a lot more so in

2244
01:14:39,500 --> 01:14:42,047
here. And so much so much of my

2245
01:14:42,047 --> 01:14:44,356
success is predicated off a past success. It's

2246
01:14:44,356 --> 01:14:47,479
like, I've... So I've been in enough situations

2247
01:14:47,479 --> 01:14:49,793
where the odds are stacked against me, and

2248
01:14:49,793 --> 01:14:51,948
it doesn't look like the likely outcome is

2249
01:14:51,948 --> 01:14:54,194
me being successful. But I've also had so

2250
01:14:54,194 --> 01:14:55,865
much success in the past that I know

2251
01:14:55,865 --> 01:14:56,502
to not settle.

2252
01:14:57,139 --> 01:15:00,003
And I keep trying and trying and trying

2253
01:15:00,003 --> 01:15:02,232
and trying and trying until shit works.

2254
01:15:02,965 --> 01:15:04,243
Where I think a lot of guys would

2255
01:15:04,243 --> 01:15:06,320
have just said, hey, everything looks wrong.

2256
01:15:07,519 --> 01:15:09,356
I'm gonna tag out on this book. Mh.

2257
01:15:09,756 --> 01:15:10,930
I prefer just to be happy with this

2258
01:15:11,050 --> 01:15:13,439
small 5 and maybe 1 quarter here. And

2259
01:15:13,439 --> 01:15:14,873
just life life is just a lot of

2260
01:15:14,873 --> 01:15:17,104
guy through late much happy. And Life is

2261
01:15:17,104 --> 01:15:19,334
just easier that way. How that that actually

2262
01:15:19,334 --> 01:15:21,581
you another question. How many times have you

2263
01:15:21,581 --> 01:15:24,931
went into the general either archer or fucking

2264
01:15:24,931 --> 01:15:26,765
rifle season and you didn't have a buck?

2265
01:15:27,563 --> 01:15:28,840
It's been a couple times in the last

2266
01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:29,876
few years. Is her? Yeah.

2267
01:15:30,689 --> 01:15:31,968
Most of the time I've got something found,

2268
01:15:32,127 --> 01:15:33,966
but it's been really tough the last few

2269
01:15:33,966 --> 01:15:36,304
years. Like, deer hunting in Idaho

2270
01:15:36,922 --> 01:15:38,520
has been exceptionally hard.

2271
01:15:39,494 --> 01:15:41,015
Pretty much since 20 17.

2272
01:15:41,734 --> 01:15:45,175
Like the... That that winter. That we destroyed

2273
01:15:45,175 --> 01:15:48,229
our. It's mostly winter. Yeah. Winter as as

2274
01:15:48,229 --> 01:15:49,909
much as people like to think that we

2275
01:15:49,909 --> 01:15:52,650
control things, we really, really don't. The weather

2276
01:15:52,789 --> 01:15:54,329
controls the deer as

2277
01:15:55,125 --> 01:15:58,405
More than anything by like tenfold. Mh If

2278
01:15:58,405 --> 01:16:01,204
we have good moisture and mild winners, the

2279
01:16:01,204 --> 01:16:02,085
deer will do well.

2280
01:16:03,059 --> 01:16:04,757
If we have bad winners

2281
01:16:05,296 --> 01:16:07,453
and a dry climate, we're not gonna grow

2282
01:16:07,453 --> 01:16:09,132
deer. Like, we're gonna kill deer in the

2283
01:16:09,132 --> 01:16:10,411
winter, and we're not gonna grow them in

2284
01:16:10,411 --> 01:16:10,810
the summer.

2285
01:16:11,703 --> 01:16:13,698
Deer sites. This is my opinion from the

2286
01:16:13,698 --> 01:16:15,077
outside. I keep hearing this

2287
01:16:15,614 --> 01:16:16,114
overcrowded

2288
01:16:16,572 --> 01:16:18,966
overcrowded. I've always seen people. That's easy to

2289
01:16:18,966 --> 01:16:20,733
dis disprove. So that hasn't been the case

2290
01:16:20,733 --> 01:16:22,801
for me. If I've seen those people. If

2291
01:16:22,801 --> 01:16:23,517
you look, so,

2292
01:16:24,313 --> 01:16:25,984
another real good friend of mine, Ryan hat

2293
01:16:25,984 --> 01:16:28,472
field hasn't... Awesome awesome book that if you

2294
01:16:28,472 --> 01:16:29,909
care at all about Deere and Idaho, you

2295
01:16:29,909 --> 01:16:32,466
should buy. Yes 2. He 2 books. Yeah.

2296
01:16:32,786 --> 01:16:32,946
Yeah.

2297
01:16:34,394 --> 01:16:35,662
So in in his book,

2298
01:16:37,802 --> 01:16:39,703
what is Idaho greatest meal. Yep. In his

2299
01:16:39,703 --> 01:16:42,102
book, Idaho greatest mule dear, the... I don't

2300
01:16:42,102 --> 01:16:43,059
remember if it's the first 1 or the

2301
01:16:43,059 --> 01:16:44,336
second 1 I'm pressures in the first 1.

2302
01:16:45,292 --> 01:16:47,707
It points out how many hunters

2303
01:16:48,404 --> 01:16:50,238
in the state of Idaho are hunting gear

2304
01:16:50,238 --> 01:16:50,716
every year.

2305
01:16:51,766 --> 01:16:53,756
You know, it... It's also phony that people

2306
01:16:53,756 --> 01:16:55,586
complain about non residents because we have cap

2307
01:16:55,586 --> 01:16:58,211
non residents in every unit now. Yep. But...

2308
01:16:58,783 --> 01:17:00,241
We have less hunter

2309
01:17:00,699 --> 01:17:03,093
participation than we had through some of the

2310
01:17:03,093 --> 01:17:05,248
best years we had deer hunting and Idaho.

2311
01:17:05,488 --> 01:17:06,659
I don't remember the exact years. I don't

2312
01:17:06,859 --> 01:17:08,208
remember the exact numbers. I'm not gonna make

2313
01:17:08,208 --> 01:17:09,479
shit up just to say a number.

2314
01:17:10,274 --> 01:17:12,021
But at the amount of hunters we have,

2315
01:17:12,180 --> 01:17:14,246
hunting mule deer or deer in general in

2316
01:17:14,246 --> 01:17:15,914
the state of Idaho right now is no

2317
01:17:15,914 --> 01:17:17,284
higher than it's been in the past.

2318
01:17:18,164 --> 01:17:19,765
I think a lot of what people are

2319
01:17:19,765 --> 01:17:21,784
complaining about now is that

2320
01:17:22,484 --> 01:17:23,284
people hunt longer,

2321
01:17:24,019 --> 01:17:25,692
So there's not more people, but the people

2322
01:17:25,692 --> 01:17:27,206
that are there are there longer. And I

2323
01:17:27,206 --> 01:17:29,118
think the biggest reason why people complain about

2324
01:17:29,118 --> 01:17:31,841
non residents. There's 2 reasons. 1. They try

2325
01:17:31,841 --> 01:17:33,591
harder than you, they're more successful than you.

2326
01:17:33,909 --> 01:17:36,136
They quit complaining about people that are better

2327
01:17:36,136 --> 01:17:37,569
than you. You can try harder and be

2328
01:17:37,569 --> 01:17:40,042
better too. Like, the guys who come from

2329
01:17:40,042 --> 01:17:42,578
another state and pay non resident prices are

2330
01:17:42,578 --> 01:17:44,322
not showing up for the weekend and they're

2331
01:17:44,322 --> 01:17:46,564
not gonna not quit. Like, They're not gonna

2332
01:17:46,564 --> 01:17:48,324
show up and not try hard. They're trying

2333
01:17:48,324 --> 01:17:50,005
harder than you, and they're probably better.

2334
01:17:52,805 --> 01:17:55,380
And the other thing... Yeah. I got sidetracked.

2335
01:17:58,020 --> 01:17:59,140
That's 1 of the things that makes me

2336
01:17:59,140 --> 01:18:00,739
angry because I'm a non resident in a

2337
01:18:00,739 --> 01:18:02,340
lot more states than I'm a resident in.

2338
01:18:02,833 --> 01:18:04,979
And when people complain about non residents, it's

2339
01:18:04,979 --> 01:18:06,966
like, the they're... Oh, their numbers are capped.

2340
01:18:07,284 --> 01:18:08,555
There's a certain amount of them that can

2341
01:18:08,555 --> 01:18:10,384
hunt every unit every year. There's not more

2342
01:18:10,384 --> 01:18:12,468
of them than there is you. You're just

2343
01:18:12,468 --> 01:18:15,419
seeing them coincidentally, and they probably are in

2344
01:18:15,419 --> 01:18:17,094
better places because they're probably better hunters.

2345
01:18:17,971 --> 01:18:20,045
Better it's better East outer. Yeah. This goes

2346
01:18:20,045 --> 01:18:22,533
back to the what we started with. People

2347
01:18:22,533 --> 01:18:24,612
just wanna fucking bitch and wine about things.

2348
01:18:25,171 --> 01:18:27,488
I, to this day, there are there are

2349
01:18:27,488 --> 01:18:29,966
units like, we'll take... We'll spotlight 1 unit

2350
01:18:29,966 --> 01:18:31,975
because it... I've been there. 39 is a

2351
01:18:31,975 --> 01:18:33,885
fucking busy place. Yeah. You can't fuck up

2352
01:18:33,885 --> 01:18:35,795
39. It's already fucked. It's already fucked up.

2353
01:18:35,953 --> 01:18:37,943
But you can find big fucking deer in

2354
01:18:37,943 --> 01:18:38,421
39.

2355
01:18:38,754 --> 01:18:39,949
Killed a 9 and a half year old

2356
01:18:39,949 --> 01:18:42,182
deer in 39 years ago. Me and Jim

2357
01:18:42,182 --> 01:18:44,574
found a fucking monster. We fucked up on

2358
01:18:44,574 --> 01:18:46,726
it. So I mean, you can find them.

2359
01:18:47,046 --> 01:18:48,975
It's... I don't see that as being the

2360
01:18:48,975 --> 01:18:50,649
problem. I think when you go back to

2361
01:18:50,649 --> 01:18:52,962
those earlier days, there was more private land,

2362
01:18:53,122 --> 01:18:55,115
and it was easier honey. They could shoot

2363
01:18:55,115 --> 01:18:56,791
that little buck they wanted to shoot from

2364
01:18:56,791 --> 01:18:58,561
the road. Now you probably gotta work little

2365
01:18:58,561 --> 01:19:00,715
harder. And those non residents are working harder

2366
01:19:00,715 --> 01:19:02,948
than you. Agree with that. Well, in 30

2367
01:19:02,948 --> 01:19:05,739
nine's such a weird situation. Like, if if

2368
01:19:05,739 --> 01:19:08,466
you wanna look look far enough back.

2369
01:19:09,185 --> 01:19:12,057
Like, 39 is kind of ham by winter

2370
01:19:12,057 --> 01:19:12,296
range,

2371
01:19:13,972 --> 01:19:15,502
for people who are from you're with Southern

2372
01:19:15,661 --> 01:19:17,969
Idaho. There's actually an area called deer flat.

2373
01:19:18,128 --> 01:19:19,902
It's clear over towards caldwell will

2374
01:19:20,357 --> 01:19:22,904
20 plus, maybe 30 miles away from Boise.

2375
01:19:23,143 --> 01:19:25,948
That was historical winter inch for mule. All

2376
01:19:25,948 --> 01:19:28,185
of them mule that winter on the Boise

2377
01:19:28,185 --> 01:19:29,145
front in the mountains,

2378
01:19:29,703 --> 01:19:32,101
used to winter 20 plus miles further away.

2379
01:19:32,341 --> 01:19:33,274
So, like, her

2380
01:19:34,114 --> 01:19:36,354
Winter range is is kind of 1 of

2381
01:19:36,354 --> 01:19:39,154
the more critical components of what dictates the

2382
01:19:39,154 --> 01:19:41,488
carrying capacity of a deer herd. Now if

2383
01:19:41,488 --> 01:19:43,243
they have really, really good summer range, they

2384
01:19:43,243 --> 01:19:44,998
can basically starve most of the winter and

2385
01:19:44,998 --> 01:19:46,594
they won't die. If it's not a hard

2386
01:19:46,594 --> 01:19:47,073
enough winner.

2387
01:19:47,791 --> 01:19:50,118
But You know, there's there's so much going

2388
01:19:50,118 --> 01:19:52,351
on in this whole thing. And and those

2389
01:19:52,351 --> 01:19:54,584
deer are even shifting further south than what

2390
01:19:54,584 --> 01:19:56,679
their historical winter ranges is just from,

2391
01:19:57,549 --> 01:20:00,256
new neighborhoods being built and in development. But...

2392
01:20:00,893 --> 01:20:02,565
Well, the thing is me is stop bitch,

2393
01:20:02,724 --> 01:20:04,476
look harder or the efficient game gonna make

2394
01:20:04,476 --> 01:20:06,639
some revenues that nobody likes. See. Yeah. Fishing.

2395
01:20:06,877 --> 01:20:08,864
When fishing game gives us a a solution,

2396
01:20:09,023 --> 01:20:10,613
it's nothing. It's not We want. And we

2397
01:20:10,613 --> 01:20:12,917
rarely ever go back. Yeah. And I don't

2398
01:20:12,917 --> 01:20:14,427
want what they're... And that's not fishing games

2399
01:20:14,427 --> 01:20:16,827
fault. No. They're taking in the community... They

2400
01:20:16,827 --> 01:20:18,497
community their comments. They're trying to get people

2401
01:20:18,497 --> 01:20:20,484
to stop whining. They manage people more than

2402
01:20:20,484 --> 01:20:23,204
they manage game. So when you complain, in

2403
01:20:23,204 --> 01:20:24,903
your television fishing game, there's a problem

2404
01:20:25,441 --> 01:20:27,518
more likely than not their solution is to

2405
01:20:27,518 --> 01:20:27,997
manage you.

2406
01:20:29,195 --> 01:20:29,435
Correct.

2407
01:20:30,090 --> 01:20:31,764
To get the whine to stop, and the

2408
01:20:31,764 --> 01:20:33,041
wine will never stop. Yeah.

2409
01:20:33,997 --> 01:20:36,710
Alright. We're getting into our 20 minutes. We

2410
01:20:36,710 --> 01:20:39,023
gotta talk real quick about your new Jimmy

2411
01:20:39,023 --> 01:20:39,740
and the bolt knobs.

2412
01:20:41,184 --> 01:20:42,612
Yeah. I put some stuff out on the

2413
01:20:42,612 --> 01:20:44,436
table if you guys are watching on Youtube

2414
01:20:44,436 --> 01:20:45,784
there. We talked a little bit about. This

2415
01:20:45,784 --> 01:20:47,689
was an inspiration from the...

2416
01:20:48,498 --> 01:20:49,055
The thread.

2417
01:20:49,692 --> 01:20:51,364
So the nit dried and lightning cuts on

2418
01:20:51,364 --> 01:20:53,274
this action here. Something we're still doing something

2419
01:20:53,274 --> 01:20:54,150
still very popular.

2420
01:20:54,787 --> 01:20:56,354
We can remove 4 ounces off the ash

2421
01:20:56,554 --> 01:20:57,671
you can nit dry it, or you can

2422
01:20:57,671 --> 01:20:58,469
delete or code it.

2423
01:20:59,268 --> 01:21:00,305
From the horse's mouth.

2424
01:21:01,183 --> 01:21:03,019
What's the lead time? I know we changed

2425
01:21:03,019 --> 01:21:04,455
it? We gotta be open and honest it

2426
01:21:04,455 --> 01:21:06,069
was. 6 or 8 weeks. Oh, yeah. So

2427
01:21:06,069 --> 01:21:07,350
it was set it was basically you said

2428
01:21:07,350 --> 01:21:09,109
at 3 weeks for machining and 3 weeks

2429
01:21:09,109 --> 01:21:11,109
for nit tried. That was my bad because

2430
01:21:11,109 --> 01:21:12,550
somebody said 6, So I split it in

2431
01:21:12,550 --> 01:21:14,645
2 in reality was 6 for both. Okay.

2432
01:21:14,885 --> 01:21:16,805
Now we're just... We're we're at 12 weeks.

2433
01:21:17,845 --> 01:21:19,845
Sometimes it doesn't take that long. Sometimes it

2434
01:21:19,845 --> 01:21:21,364
does. It has to do with batch and

2435
01:21:21,364 --> 01:21:22,324
how many... We have to wait for a

2436
01:21:22,324 --> 01:21:23,939
certain amount of actions before we can send

2437
01:21:23,939 --> 01:21:25,695
them in. So there's some, you know,

2438
01:21:26,573 --> 01:21:28,250
some different things there. But it says 12

2439
01:21:28,250 --> 01:21:30,645
weeks in the product description, but, still doing

2440
01:21:30,645 --> 01:21:32,561
it still available, and now we have a

2441
01:21:32,561 --> 01:21:35,356
new can what we're gonna have several different

2442
01:21:35,356 --> 01:21:37,417
bolt handles and knobs, but the current 1

2443
01:21:37,417 --> 01:21:39,399
that's the most popular is the short standard

2444
01:21:39,399 --> 01:21:40,429
with the 1 inch ball.

2445
01:21:41,078 --> 01:21:43,462
This is forms design and forms approved.

2446
01:21:44,097 --> 01:21:47,038
Malicious. For malicious. You got... You you buy.

2447
01:21:47,277 --> 01:21:48,787
I got what Would you buy 3 4

2448
01:21:48,945 --> 01:21:49,445
Instead

2449
01:21:50,552 --> 01:21:53,365
what's your opinion on the... Its ability to

2450
01:21:53,823 --> 01:21:55,019
improve your bolt cycling?

2451
01:21:55,577 --> 01:21:57,890
When you actually understand the mechanics of how

2452
01:21:57,890 --> 01:21:59,326
you're supposed to run a bolt? They are

2453
01:21:59,326 --> 01:22:01,497
much, much better. Oh, yeah. Like it as

2454
01:22:01,497 --> 01:22:03,415
as a naive person going into it, I

2455
01:22:03,415 --> 01:22:05,433
would've have thought they were kinda silly. Mh

2456
01:22:05,812 --> 01:22:07,591
But when when form

2457
01:22:08,065 --> 01:22:08,565
physically

2458
01:22:08,945 --> 01:22:11,744
demonstrates and explains to you why you want

2459
01:22:11,744 --> 01:22:12,465
this design.

2460
01:22:13,265 --> 01:22:14,305
So a few things they do,

2461
01:22:15,439 --> 01:22:17,434
number 1 where they're a little bit shorter,

2462
01:22:17,593 --> 01:22:19,509
you are less likely to bump it. 1

2463
01:22:19,509 --> 01:22:21,981
of 1 of the issues with the Tee

2464
01:22:21,981 --> 01:22:23,826
design is that the bolt where it hangs

2465
01:22:23,826 --> 01:22:25,573
out if you are to bump the bolt

2466
01:22:25,573 --> 01:22:26,527
up slightly,

2467
01:22:26,925 --> 01:22:28,354
you can get a light strike on the

2468
01:22:28,354 --> 01:22:30,498
primer. So that's 1 of the issues with

2469
01:22:30,498 --> 01:22:31,849
the tee Where these are no shorter?

2470
01:22:32,658 --> 01:22:34,408
Or these are shorter, you're less likely to

2471
01:22:34,408 --> 01:22:36,554
screw that up. Yeah. So it'll still fire

2472
01:22:36,554 --> 01:22:37,905
from, you know, a few degrees up at

2473
01:22:37,905 --> 01:22:41,165
a position. Yeah. But your your engagement and

2474
01:22:41,165 --> 01:22:42,015
your fire pin

2475
01:22:43,252 --> 01:22:44,689
ignition is not the same. Yeah. You will

2476
01:22:44,689 --> 01:22:46,685
get light primer strikes if it is up

2477
01:22:46,685 --> 01:22:49,000
high enough. Mh. So you are less likely

2478
01:22:49,000 --> 01:22:50,596
to bump. It's more out of the way,

2479
01:22:50,837 --> 01:22:53,077
so you can be... Sloppy and not screw

2480
01:22:53,077 --> 01:22:54,664
up the gun. Like, it's it's a you

2481
01:22:54,664 --> 01:22:55,775
screwing up the gun issue.

2482
01:22:56,886 --> 01:22:59,281
The other thing where it comes out straight.

2483
01:22:59,520 --> 01:23:01,503
It also puts it at a position where

2484
01:23:01,503 --> 01:23:04,043
if you are properly on the gun, you

2485
01:23:04,043 --> 01:23:06,344
don't actually have to remove your wrist from

2486
01:23:06,344 --> 01:23:07,590
the gun. Like, you can

2487
01:23:07,948 --> 01:23:10,586
without moving your arm nearly as much as

2488
01:23:10,586 --> 01:23:12,743
the normal bolt, you are able to cycle

2489
01:23:12,743 --> 01:23:15,480
the bolt almost entirely with a wrist movement

2490
01:23:15,795 --> 01:23:18,029
which makes you way faster on cycling the

2491
01:23:18,029 --> 01:23:20,025
bolt, and it's also moving the gun less,

2492
01:23:20,185 --> 01:23:21,860
the less you move your position and the

2493
01:23:21,860 --> 01:23:23,457
less you move the gun, the faster you

2494
01:23:23,457 --> 01:23:24,988
can make a follow ups shot. We're gonna

2495
01:23:24,988 --> 01:23:27,139
have a video of him doing form doing

2496
01:23:27,139 --> 01:23:29,631
it because... Oh, yeah, It looks like almost

2497
01:23:29,927 --> 01:23:31,600
medic. He can run the boat with the

2498
01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:33,367
first... 2 fingers and fire with his middle

2499
01:23:33,367 --> 01:23:35,038
finger and almost look like a full freaking

2500
01:23:35,038 --> 01:23:37,108
auto. Yeah. It's a pretty... Yeah. It's fast.

2501
01:23:37,426 --> 01:23:39,734
It's really. Hey. Once... Yeah. Once I saw

2502
01:23:39,734 --> 01:23:41,007
how they worked, it's like, I need that

2503
01:23:41,007 --> 01:23:43,020
a lot of those. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah.

2504
01:23:43,180 --> 01:23:44,619
So new bolt handle knob. Now there's gonna

2505
01:23:44,619 --> 01:23:47,020
be also a long standard and then some

2506
01:23:47,020 --> 01:23:47,520
skeleton

2507
01:23:47,820 --> 01:23:49,739
versions as well as, several other bolt knobs.

2508
01:23:51,190 --> 01:23:52,860
But that's the only 1 that's available for

2509
01:23:52,860 --> 01:23:54,212
the moment. The rest will be out and

2510
01:23:54,212 --> 01:23:56,120
in within a couple months. We got new

2511
01:23:56,199 --> 01:23:57,393
Ammo cad just come out.

2512
01:23:58,267 --> 01:23:59,858
This 1 is a 3 stack 223.

2513
01:24:00,589 --> 01:24:01,944
The reason why we come out with this

2514
01:24:01,944 --> 01:24:03,618
is is simply to solve some issues with

2515
01:24:03,618 --> 01:24:05,530
the other 2 round type of holders. Most

2516
01:24:05,530 --> 01:24:07,523
of those issues revolve on the the ammunition

2517
01:24:07,523 --> 01:24:08,002
falling out.

2518
01:24:09,292 --> 01:24:10,569
A lot of guys, like, 33 x feet,

2519
01:24:10,728 --> 01:24:11,844
we'll be walking through the woods of the

2520
01:24:11,844 --> 01:24:13,041
rifle. You got 2 rounds on the side

2521
01:24:13,041 --> 01:24:14,238
of the rifle because it's a single feed.

2522
01:24:14,396 --> 01:24:15,434
And by the time you get back the

2523
01:24:15,434 --> 01:24:17,427
rounds are gone. This can't happen with that.

2524
01:24:18,640 --> 01:24:20,399
Have a short magnum short standard and and

2525
01:24:20,399 --> 01:24:22,000
then a 3 round 223 so far.

2526
01:24:23,279 --> 01:24:26,569
Ryan requested a larger Jimmy. So not because

2527
01:24:26,569 --> 01:24:28,869
he's larger in stature, but because his pressures

2528
01:24:28,869 --> 01:24:29,028
are.

2529
01:24:30,297 --> 01:24:33,130
So before we had basically a 4 inch

2530
01:24:33,329 --> 01:24:34,609
version for just the end of the suppressor.

2531
01:24:34,770 --> 01:24:36,050
This was kinda of my idea to cover

2532
01:24:36,050 --> 01:24:38,050
all the different links, but Ryan brought up

2533
01:24:38,050 --> 01:24:40,130
that you like it to be basically full

2534
01:24:40,130 --> 01:24:40,770
gi full

2535
01:24:41,344 --> 01:24:42,378
fit 1718.

2536
01:24:42,697 --> 01:24:44,447
Full coverage. 1.71

2537
01:24:44,447 --> 01:24:46,355
0.8 I should say diameter kit. Yeah. And

2538
01:24:46,355 --> 01:24:48,742
then it's also 7 inches long now. Yeah.

2539
01:24:48,980 --> 01:24:51,148
It's waterproof. It's so if it's really hard

2540
01:24:51,148 --> 01:24:53,146
to tape up, like, a a Skype with

2541
01:24:53,146 --> 01:24:54,824
a break on the end, you doesn't tape

2542
01:24:54,824 --> 01:24:56,103
the shit out of it. Yeah. All the

2543
01:24:56,103 --> 01:24:58,180
new brake suppressor coming out from thunder and

2544
01:24:58,180 --> 01:24:58,341
whatnot.

2545
01:24:59,474 --> 01:25:00,989
Yeah. So this is a magnum short and

2546
01:25:00,989 --> 01:25:03,384
a magnum long, basically 4 inch suppressor and

2547
01:25:03,384 --> 01:25:05,617
7 inch suppressor. So the 7 inch inches

2548
01:25:05,617 --> 01:25:06,336
the new size.

2549
01:25:07,385 --> 01:25:08,815
Having to be a rock stock out here

2550
01:25:08,815 --> 01:25:10,722
just for whatever. Then we got the new

2551
01:25:10,722 --> 01:25:11,222
tk

2552
01:25:11,914 --> 01:25:12,414
magazine

2553
01:25:12,789 --> 01:25:14,299
just kinda sitting here as a teaser or

2554
01:25:14,299 --> 01:25:16,382
the bottom metal done, the mag are almost

2555
01:25:16,382 --> 01:25:17,100
all the way done.

2556
01:25:17,817 --> 01:25:20,447
So we'll have a Proprietary bottom and mag

2557
01:25:20,447 --> 01:25:22,201
will allow for 3.5

2558
01:25:22,201 --> 01:25:23,078
inches plus,

2559
01:25:24,448 --> 01:25:26,304
inside the magazine. It's gonna be

2560
01:25:27,159 --> 01:25:30,270
5 rounds standard and 4 rounds magnum that

2561
01:25:30,270 --> 01:25:32,105
includes belt at magnum. We actually tested this.

2562
01:25:32,265 --> 01:25:34,273
The idea behind this bottom mag guys that

2563
01:25:34,273 --> 01:25:35,251
you could take a

2564
01:25:35,626 --> 01:25:38,091
a tee rifle out of the factory box

2565
01:25:38,091 --> 01:25:40,557
and drop this bottom and mag replace the

2566
01:25:40,557 --> 01:25:41,848
bolt stop so which it will come with,

2567
01:25:42,008 --> 01:25:43,526
and you're gonna bump all the way from

2568
01:25:43,526 --> 01:25:45,363
334 up to 354.

2569
01:25:46,082 --> 01:25:47,760
So 2 full tenths of an inch added

2570
01:25:47,760 --> 01:25:48,319
to your length,

2571
01:25:49,451 --> 01:25:50,963
and additional magazine capacity.

2572
01:25:52,556 --> 01:25:54,387
Yeah. So that's a that's just about to

2573
01:25:54,387 --> 01:25:56,140
come out here in a minute. Lots of

2574
01:25:56,140 --> 01:25:58,860
nice new little. Tri it. And we're not

2575
01:25:58,860 --> 01:26:00,610
gonna stop there. We're we're in the process

2576
01:26:00,610 --> 01:26:02,281
of working on a tee bolt, and that

2577
01:26:02,281 --> 01:26:03,712
will evolve into a tee action.

2578
01:26:04,524 --> 01:26:06,604
This will be a a Us made ti

2579
01:26:06,604 --> 01:26:08,125
action that probably has all the bells and

2580
01:26:08,125 --> 01:26:09,805
whistles already attached to it, but still a

2581
01:26:09,805 --> 01:26:10,925
ticket trigger all that good stuff.

2582
01:26:12,539 --> 01:26:13,979
Yeah. We're probably not gonna stop there. It'll

2583
01:26:13,979 --> 01:26:16,939
be everything and anything. Now we have Dion

2584
01:26:16,939 --> 01:26:19,020
testing out some primer. Oh, yeah. I brought

2585
01:26:19,020 --> 01:26:21,395
those so we scored some white River energetic

2586
01:26:21,514 --> 01:26:22,865
primer and I wanna see if I wanna

2587
01:26:22,865 --> 01:26:24,796
be carrying those here at the shop. So

2588
01:26:25,409 --> 01:26:27,795
he has the Ocd level for proper testing.

2589
01:26:28,033 --> 01:26:28,828
So I gave them

2590
01:26:29,544 --> 01:26:31,550
I have the right disorders. You you do.

2591
01:26:31,710 --> 01:26:32,770
He has the autism.

2592
01:26:33,149 --> 01:26:34,909
So... You gotta touch the.

2593
01:26:36,350 --> 01:26:37,229
He's on the spectrum.

2594
01:26:37,949 --> 01:26:39,710
So when he comes back, let's know basically

2595
01:26:39,710 --> 01:26:42,438
do some Es Ssd slash velocity testing compared

2596
01:26:42,438 --> 01:26:45,070
to the normal Cci 02:50 slash fed 02:15

2597
01:26:45,070 --> 01:26:47,383
match primer most of us are using. As

2598
01:26:47,383 --> 01:26:49,536
you all well know large rifle primer in

2599
01:26:49,536 --> 01:26:51,067
general are extremely hard to get.

2600
01:26:52,024 --> 01:26:53,698
Yeah. So that's white River Energetic is a

2601
01:26:53,698 --> 01:26:55,773
new Us prime supplier back east,

2602
01:26:56,490 --> 01:26:58,245
and we'll see how that goes pretty soon

2603
01:26:58,245 --> 01:27:00,135
once he, I'm sure it'll have a report

2604
01:27:00,572 --> 01:27:02,641
I'm a shoot points next week Gotta go.

2605
01:27:02,801 --> 01:27:04,313
No. Got a sweet new apple to try

2606
01:27:04,313 --> 01:27:05,824
to burn down. No. Yeah. What do you

2607
01:27:05,824 --> 01:27:08,468
got? Got... I got me Tikka. A take

2608
01:27:08,468 --> 01:27:10,464
to a. Take. 22 cr. What do we

2609
01:27:10,464 --> 01:27:12,301
do as a chic sport ace barrel. Yep.

2610
01:27:12,539 --> 01:27:13,997
Flute. Yep. Got

2611
01:27:14,535 --> 01:27:15,094
did it all up.

2612
01:27:16,052 --> 01:27:16,930
7 or 7 and a half.

2613
01:27:17,902 --> 01:27:19,176
I think I thought it was 7.7.

2614
01:27:20,052 --> 01:27:21,326
I might be making that up. 7 and

2615
01:27:21,326 --> 01:27:22,760
a half, maybe. Yeah. Let's is call 7

2616
01:27:22,760 --> 01:27:23,475
and a half. K.

2617
01:27:24,671 --> 01:27:25,706
88 Yield.

2618
01:27:26,039 --> 01:27:27,314
Yes. Alright. Good deal.

2619
01:27:28,192 --> 01:27:29,387
Potentially killing a moose here in a minute.

2620
01:27:29,627 --> 01:27:30,903
Hoping to killing him moose. Did you got

2621
01:27:30,903 --> 01:27:33,215
it though. We've got to Yeah. Get gonna

2622
01:27:33,215 --> 01:27:34,570
triple tap him because I shoot that fast.

2623
01:27:35,622 --> 01:27:36,261
What's your.

2624
01:27:37,858 --> 01:27:39,454
Alright. You got last word what you got

2625
01:27:39,454 --> 01:27:41,210
for us? Anything? Oh, man. I don't know.

2626
01:27:41,369 --> 01:27:42,646
I'm just excited about the new stuff you

2627
01:27:42,646 --> 01:27:43,126
guys are making.

2628
01:27:43,698 --> 01:27:45,685
I get... I'd... Well, it'd be honest with,

2629
01:27:45,765 --> 01:27:47,116
a lot that, you know, a lot of

2630
01:27:47,116 --> 01:27:48,706
this the at least the whole tee side

2631
01:27:48,706 --> 01:27:49,898
of things has to do with guys like

2632
01:27:49,898 --> 01:27:51,170
yourself. I know you went through your pro...

2633
01:27:51,265 --> 01:27:52,699
Us as of getting through, you know, getting

2634
01:27:52,699 --> 01:27:54,374
rid of 700 stuff moving into tee for

2635
01:27:54,374 --> 01:27:56,765
your reason. Had gone sale. Like, literally, I've

2636
01:27:56,765 --> 01:27:58,918
got I've got on video with a high

2637
01:27:58,918 --> 01:28:01,560
1 eighties buck. Us where I go to

2638
01:28:01,560 --> 01:28:03,468
shoot him as he's walking through the timber

2639
01:28:03,468 --> 01:28:05,614
literally set up a camera. I'm on the

2640
01:28:05,614 --> 01:28:08,135
gun. I'm, like, dry firing. As I can

2641
01:28:08,412 --> 01:28:09,999
see bits and pieces of him through the

2642
01:28:09,999 --> 01:28:12,380
timber. He steps into the opening our run

2643
01:28:12,380 --> 01:28:12,855
a bullet,

2644
01:28:13,570 --> 01:28:14,522
like the safety off.

2645
01:28:15,806 --> 01:28:18,743
Click. Yep. Gun doesn't go off. And I'm

2646
01:28:18,823 --> 01:28:20,728
I'm having a panic attack then I I

2647
01:28:20,728 --> 01:28:22,553
pull the bullet out. Dry fire, the gun

2648
01:28:22,553 --> 01:28:24,239
a whole bunch of times, move the camera

2649
01:28:24,239 --> 01:28:26,072
to the next opening, deer happens to walk

2650
01:28:26,072 --> 01:28:27,266
into it and I get him killed. But

2651
01:28:27,426 --> 01:28:29,439
I got it on video of this gun

2652
01:28:29,497 --> 01:28:31,189
fucking up to No. And it was a

2653
01:28:31,189 --> 01:28:32,389
it was a trigger problem. It wasn't the

2654
01:28:32,389 --> 01:28:34,710
gun. It was it was Remington 700 trigger.

2655
01:28:34,869 --> 01:28:37,189
Like, there's just issues with Remington 700 triggers.

2656
01:28:37,429 --> 01:28:38,869
And I've had hunts where I've gone...

2657
01:28:39,524 --> 01:28:42,145
And I I know from experience where guns,

2658
01:28:42,305 --> 01:28:44,847
like, stuff freezes. I was negative 8 on

2659
01:28:44,847 --> 01:28:47,167
a hunt, and I I remember every... Hour.

2660
01:28:47,326 --> 01:28:48,993
I was setting alarm to remind myself to

2661
01:28:48,993 --> 01:28:51,533
drive fire gun just nothing froze. Like, I'm

2662
01:28:51,533 --> 01:28:53,359
gonna run this bolt and and drop the

2663
01:28:53,359 --> 01:28:55,344
firing and pan every hour so that I

2664
01:28:55,344 --> 01:28:57,984
know it's not frozen. Mh. And the tic

2665
01:28:57,984 --> 01:29:00,212
are just... They're they're not immune,

2666
01:29:01,247 --> 01:29:02,760
but you're a lot less likely to have

2667
01:29:02,760 --> 01:29:05,244
that stupid shit ruin your hunt. No. At

2668
01:29:05,244 --> 01:29:06,600
to call it the nor title special where

2669
01:29:06,600 --> 01:29:09,073
it gets s right before red for dark

2670
01:29:09,073 --> 01:29:11,068
and that freezes up hard. Yeah. And it's

2671
01:29:11,068 --> 01:29:13,141
really screwed me out of things where the

2672
01:29:13,141 --> 01:29:13,641
ticket

2673
01:29:14,113 --> 01:29:15,784
does... I'm not gonna say, Tik always will

2674
01:29:15,784 --> 01:29:17,218
run, but you can get it also when

2675
01:29:17,218 --> 01:29:18,413
it is fucked up, you can get it

2676
01:29:18,413 --> 01:29:20,244
to run faster. You don't have to take

2677
01:29:20,244 --> 01:29:21,838
it and totally warm it up to get

2678
01:29:21,838 --> 01:29:23,286
it to work again. You can bang on

2679
01:29:23,286 --> 01:29:24,480
it. You can run it a few times

2680
01:29:24,480 --> 01:29:26,550
and then it'll start fire and and that

2681
01:29:26,550 --> 01:29:28,618
matter, especially for... Well, and shit, like a

2682
01:29:28,618 --> 01:29:31,006
little, like, I've learned... I learned from from

2683
01:29:31,006 --> 01:29:33,093
super cold weather hunts, like don't sleep with

2684
01:29:33,093 --> 01:29:35,428
your gun in your tent. You will condensate

2685
01:29:35,487 --> 01:29:37,801
that thing out and you will freezing out

2686
01:29:37,801 --> 01:29:39,875
your gun. Mh. Like, leave it outside. Is

2687
01:29:39,875 --> 01:29:41,713
it as hard as it is on my

2688
01:29:41,713 --> 01:29:43,774
brain to just leave the gun outside and

2689
01:29:43,774 --> 01:29:45,438
say it's better getting snow on it.

2690
01:29:46,388 --> 01:29:49,263
Like, it's just... The the that that that's

2691
01:29:49,263 --> 01:29:51,650
what that's what. That's what made the Jimmy

2692
01:29:51,650 --> 01:29:53,479
become born has as a product is that

2693
01:29:53,559 --> 01:29:56,357
Ryan had his... Upside down as his solution

2694
01:29:56,357 --> 01:29:57,947
for not having, you know, it frees up

2695
01:29:57,947 --> 01:30:00,332
inside. Puts the rifle upside down. Mh. And

2696
01:30:00,332 --> 01:30:02,002
he just... He had to find something to

2697
01:30:02,002 --> 01:30:04,005
put the suppressor or whatever. Yeah. And that's

2698
01:30:04,005 --> 01:30:05,595
what that's where the Jimmy came from. Yeah.

2699
01:30:05,755 --> 01:30:07,424
Yeah Yeah that's what first hunts. I the

2700
01:30:07,424 --> 01:30:08,696
same thing. I leave mine against the tree,

2701
01:30:08,855 --> 01:30:10,286
like upside down with come times in the

2702
01:30:10,286 --> 01:30:12,448
tent and, you will run into problems shit

2703
01:30:12,448 --> 01:30:14,764
freezing up. You have less issues with the

2704
01:30:14,764 --> 01:30:15,083
tee.

2705
01:30:16,041 --> 01:30:16,520
Absolutely.

2706
01:30:16,999 --> 01:30:19,074
So anyways, yeah. So we're we're all in

2707
01:30:19,074 --> 01:30:20,591
on the tee shit. You guys ever have

2708
01:30:20,591 --> 01:30:21,884
tea guide Ideas your? Welcome to

2709
01:30:22,841 --> 01:30:24,518
let us know, but we're not gonna stop

2710
01:30:24,518 --> 01:30:25,635
till we have all the parts.

2711
01:30:26,434 --> 01:30:28,509
Yep. I didn't tell, Jake. We're gonna change

2712
01:30:28,509 --> 01:30:29,946
this up a little bit. We were pulling...

2713
01:30:30,345 --> 01:30:30,399
Welcome

2714
01:30:31,399 --> 01:30:33,800
given away, rings, the premier or the tee

2715
01:30:33,800 --> 01:30:35,719
rings for Youtube

2716
01:30:36,279 --> 01:30:37,640
subscribers, but now we're gonna change it up

2717
01:30:37,640 --> 01:30:38,679
because we need some speak pipes.

2718
01:30:39,332 --> 01:30:41,868
Okay. So if we use your speak pipe,

2719
01:30:42,185 --> 01:30:44,247
we're gonna give you either your choice of

2720
01:30:44,247 --> 01:30:47,038
premier rings or take ring. So... Oh, I

2721
01:30:47,038 --> 01:30:48,315
gotta do is go to the website. It

2722
01:30:48,315 --> 01:30:49,910
says leave a message right on the front

2723
01:30:49,910 --> 01:30:50,069
page.

2724
01:30:50,867 --> 01:30:52,702
Leave us a message. And if we answer

2725
01:30:52,702 --> 01:30:54,217
that 1, we will send you something. And

2726
01:30:54,297 --> 01:30:55,892
Ryan's buy, so bring them on.

2727
01:30:56,943 --> 01:30:58,136
Oh, we didn't talk about that.

2728
01:30:59,408 --> 01:31:01,716
Your idea, baby. Okay. I guess Bio.

2729
01:31:02,671 --> 01:31:04,676
Oh, alright. So you Please leave us a

2730
01:31:04,676 --> 01:31:06,349
speak. If It's really simple and easy. And

2731
01:31:06,349 --> 01:31:08,181
if you have a question for me or

2732
01:31:08,341 --> 01:31:10,253
Jake in No, It has to be a

2733
01:31:10,253 --> 01:31:12,418
good question. Yeah. Well, you can't... Like, we

2734
01:31:12,418 --> 01:31:13,850
get a lot of stupid fucking questions. I

2735
01:31:13,850 --> 01:31:15,362
hate. The can't just should be Luke calling

2736
01:31:15,362 --> 01:31:16,895
in talking about jake

2737
01:31:18,557 --> 01:31:20,704
Yeah. You do that. People say there's no

2738
01:31:20,704 --> 01:31:22,692
stupid questions. I agree. There's just stupid fucking

2739
01:31:22,692 --> 01:31:24,997
people. Yeah. So don't be stupid. That'll be

2740
01:31:24,997 --> 01:31:27,224
right by decisions so you better first trying

2741
01:31:27,224 --> 01:31:29,542
your hardest. Yeah Yeah. Get credit. Yeah. You

2742
01:31:29,542 --> 01:31:32,082
no no fucking credit. But if you're serious

2743
01:31:32,082 --> 01:31:33,273
and you have a question for me, Jake,

2744
01:31:33,353 --> 01:31:34,543
you can also get a ahold of us

2745
01:31:34,543 --> 01:31:36,210
off the record at podcast at shoot ton

2746
01:31:36,210 --> 01:31:38,291
dot com. You can find Dion at.

2747
01:31:40,756 --> 01:31:43,936
Hey it is a it's on rock. Instagram

2748
01:31:43,936 --> 01:31:46,480
my name. Instagram. Wild underscore idaho.

2749
01:31:47,131 --> 01:31:48,719
You're... I'm not real active on there. And

2750
01:31:48,719 --> 01:31:50,625
what's cross rock slide lot And what's your

2751
01:31:50,625 --> 01:31:52,769
name on Rock slide? Just my name. Dot.

2752
01:31:53,007 --> 01:31:54,992
Yeah. There you go. I totally what I

2753
01:31:54,992 --> 01:31:55,810
think I

2754
01:31:56,198 --> 01:31:57,862
Honestly, though, I don't think it let me

2755
01:31:57,862 --> 01:31:59,367
do just my name though. It might have

2756
01:31:59,367 --> 01:32:00,342
been like a length

2757
01:32:00,872 --> 01:32:01,269
requirement.

2758
01:32:01,743 --> 01:32:03,504
I think it's just the though isn't I

2759
01:32:03,504 --> 01:32:05,259
thought it was d. I thought free. Oh,

2760
01:32:05,418 --> 01:32:07,970
I think it is D. Yeah. There's only

2761
01:32:07,970 --> 01:32:09,406
1 of you dude. Yeah. It's just me.

2762
01:32:10,443 --> 01:32:11,799
Alright. Thanks for listening. Thank you.