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Hello, and welcome to the
hundredth episode of Shaping Fire.

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I am your host Chango Lowes. Before
we get to the meat of the program,

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I'm gonna take a little bit of time here
at the top of the show and share some

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of the philosophy and themes behind the
Shaping Fire podcast that we've never

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really talked about in the
first a hundred episodes.

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I get questions about these things and
I figure I might as well, you know,

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what better time than a hundred episode
to share it with you. So number one is,

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uh,

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of course the main guide behind the
program is to make cannabis enthusiasts

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self-sufficient. Uh,

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I appreciate that access is increasing
across the United States as normalization

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kind of creeps in and, and it's good
to support those stores. However, um,

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I also think that patients should be able
to grow and produce their own medicine

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and preparations at home.

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And every episode of Shaping
Fire works towards that goal.

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Also,

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each episode I try to make sure is
packed with information that you can take

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action on.

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I try to include everything you need in
an episode to make a decision or take

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action, or at least feel like
you have a handle on that topic.

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Too often I listen to a podcast to learn,

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and I'm only given about 65 or
70% of the information I actually

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need. And so I still have to continue
my research to fill in the holes

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With Shaping Fire episodes,

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I really try to give you everything
you need to start making decisions.

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And sure, there's almost always
more research that's needed,

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but at least you know that you have the
basics covered and you can go forward on

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your second layer. Race
Research with Confidence. Um,

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I book Shaping Fire
episodes or my guests based

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on topics,

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and I don't do company profiles
and I don't do people profiles. Um,

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I find a topic that I'm interested
and I think that the audience would be

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interested in, and that is
undercover in cannabis media.

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After I've got that topic and
that I want what I want to cover,

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I then go and find a guest who is
an industry expert in that area,

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and then I invite them on the show. Um,

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every week I get lots of people
interested in being on the show,

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or they're press agents and,

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and they let me know that this
person is very interesting,

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except Shaping Fire is
not about that person.

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Shaping fire is about cannabis patients,

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and those are the people
who are important.

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And so I see my role as a role of service,

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bringing you topics that you
are interested in learning in,

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and then we just go and find
the right person for it.

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Before people are on my
show, we have a conversation.

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So they too understand that this show is
not about them, and it's not about me.

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Is this doing this show is a role
of service for cannabis patients,

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and that's how we treat it.

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And people who don't work in that way,

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they don't end up on shaping fire. So
that's how I choose guests. Similarly,

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I choose my advertisers based
on those same kinds of morals.

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I choose advertisers that have a message
or a product that I actually think

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that regenerative minded Cannabis
u are going to be interested in.

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And so because of that,
you don't see me, uh,

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accepting money from a
bottled salt fertilizer

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companies. And boy, do they
wanna be on the show. And gosh,

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have I had to turn down a lot of money,

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but it would be very difficult for
me to have all of these regenerative

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guests and then cut to,

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and commercial that is
some kind of a plus B salt

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nutrient for indoor. It just
would be out of integrity for me.

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And so I don't do it, um, online.

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I don't fight with trolls. I just
restrict them and move on with my life.

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You know, a lot of people really get
into the fight online, and I just don't,

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I just don't have the energy for it.

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I don't like that feeling of stress
in the middle of my chess when,

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when people are involved in
online fighting. So, so I just,

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I just don't even respond and I
block 'em or restrict them and get on

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with my life. I got way more
important things to do than,

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than internet fighting. My first podcasts,

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my first 55 of them were actually
for entrepreneur.com. Um,

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I worked with them for a
year doing weekly shows,

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and I recommend that you go over
to Go entrepreneur.com and, uh,

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check those out. Um, I love the
guys there. Um, but, you know,

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I realized that I was pretty darn
good at this podcasting thing,

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and I wanted to own all my own
intellectual property. So, um,

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I said goodbye to the fellas
and I wished them best,

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and we're all still friends. And, uh,

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and I formed Shaping Fire so that I
could be in control of my own destiny,

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choose my own advertisers, own my own
intellectual property, and move forward.

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And now, five years in, I think
that was a great decision. And, uh,

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happily I've been met with a lot of
success and can support myself, um,

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off the show. Uh,

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I've also done a hundred episodes of
Shaping Fire over the last five years, uh,

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20 per year, roughly twice a month
with, uh, a break around Christmas.

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So at 20 episodes a year. Um,
it's certainly not as, uh,

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fast as many podcasts that have got
weekly or even daily episodes. Uh,

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I've just never been
interested in that and I,

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I spend too much time curating
my content and, and finding, um,

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difficult to find guests and then
reading their books before they're on the

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show, or if they're a scientist, all
of their scientific papers. And, um,

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doing lots of episodes has just never
been attractive to me, attractive to me.

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I'd rather do less shows and have
them be more in depth. And that's,

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that isn't to to shame
anybody else's show. Like,

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there's lots of room in this
scene for lots of different shows,

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and people love different types
of entertainment and education.

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So while Shaping Fire isn't the show
that I'm gonna be smoking out with the

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guest and we're gonna be talking
about what we're smoking on, um,

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there's certainly a place for that.

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And I think that there's enough room
for everybody. And certainly, um,

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my audience appreciates
how, how I approach things.

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There's also the YouTube channel, in
case you're not familiar with that,

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there's almost 200 videos of, um,

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various speakers speaking on
cannabis and antigens. Um, and it's,

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it's kind of funny because the, the,

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the YouTube channel was an
accident actually. Um, when
I started traveling, um,

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back in 2015 or so, uh,

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people were flying me out to
speak at cannabis conventions. Um,

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you know, since I was at
the Cannabis convention,

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I was also going to see
really good speakers, and it,

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it seemed like a waste to not record them.

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So every time I went to see a speaker,

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I also recorded the speaker so
that I could bring home that

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content to you so you could enjoy
it without ever having to travel.

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And so I started dumping those
videos onto the YouTube channel,

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and, you know,

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eventually more and more people started
watching them and subscribing. And,

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you know, we've got over
10,000 subscribers now.

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I think we're at like 13,000
perhaps, and, you know, over,

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over a million and a half
minutes served and, you know,

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serving 30 to 40,000 people a
month. So, um, it's pretty good.

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It doesn't generate any money at all. Um,

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but it's just a good
resource for people. And,

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and I'm glad we started
it all that time ago.

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I talk in this episode a
lot about patients I've been
involved with, and I have,

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but I don't practice medicine. I'm not
a doctor. Um, or do I have an office?

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Nor do I charge a fee
for these consultations.

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So you'll hear me refer to
patients a lot in this episode.

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And this is simply because
when you are interviewing

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medical doctors and scientists every week

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and then speaking about that publicly,

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you start to attract people
with questions and stories.

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And then I tend to keep
in contact with people.

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And so it's been over this decade
of learning from patients that I

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have been able to amass this knowledge
for myself as a cannabis patient and to

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help the people around me here
on Vaon Island where I live. But,

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but it's important to be sure that,

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that I am not a doctor and, uh,

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I am not cosplaying as a doctor
at all, nor charging money.

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So not practicing medicine
without a license.

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And I always encourage you to talk to
your doctors about anything that you

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decide to do after listening
to Shaping Fire. That said,

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with this episode,

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I'm trying to offer this
dosing information in a way so

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people don't have to reach out to
me all the time. So, um, please,

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this is not an invitation to send me
Instagram messages and emails asking me

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about, um, your specific,
um, ailment. Um, I'm,

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I'm not really working with patients
anymore except for my local neighbors. So,

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so I hope that you get what
you need from this episode,

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and I tried to make it as complete
as possible just for that reason.

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So going forward, you can
expect more soil episodes,

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more regenerative techniques, more
making hash and oil and such at home,

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and of course, more cannabis and health.

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And I'm going to keep up
with the mushrooms, dmt, and
other antigen topics too.

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You are listening to Shaping Fire,
and I am your host, Chango LOEs.

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My guest today is, well, me sh go Los.

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I have been a cannabis educator for the
last decade and have been involved with

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cannabis medicine since 1989.

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I have listened to the stories of
more patients than I can count.

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I founded the VAs on Island Marijuana
Enthusiast Alliance many years ago to

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gather cannabis patients and those who
love them to share best practices and to

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bring in international guest speakers.
And boy oh boy, has that been a success.

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I presently spend my time producing the
Shaping Fire Podcast as I recover from

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burnout and study neuro
divergence. This is a long episode,

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but I was careful to add out
anything that felt like filler.

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My hope is that it's a comprehensive
guide for those who are new to dosing

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cannabinoids so they can take their next
steps toward healing with confidence.

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This is the first time I've
ever recorded solo like this,

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so perhaps cut me some slack. If
you like this sort of episode,

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please let me know because I have an
episode like this written on the 90 Day

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Cancer Protocol too that I do if you
happen to like this format. Okay, friends,

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let's go. So here we are friends.

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I have been wanting to record this
episode for a couple years now.

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It's one of the most common
things that I'm asked for.

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I I teach about dosing
a lot to, uh, you know,

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small groups of people in
their homes. And, uh, you know,

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occasionally I'm asked to do this talk
at, um, you know, at conventions or, or,

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or, you know, caregiver
events or whatever. Um,

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but those are always so informal and
there's always lots of questions. It,

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it never really, um, seemed appropriate
to, to put any of those recordings out.

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So for the first time here
for the hundredth episode,
I figured I would, uh, uh,

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give it a shot to, um, uh, put this
body of information that I've got, um,

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here for you, um, so that
you can, um, you know,

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potentially learn some yourself and
share it with caregivers and family and

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friends in a way that can get folks
up to speed on cannabis dosing

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in a way that, um,

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is useful to them in their
everyday life and isn't packed with

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misinformation. Cuz as we all know, most
of the information that you can get,

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um, from just searching
online is pretty bad. Um,

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but I will take a moment
and plug project c.org. Um,

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Martin Lee has done a great job
pulling together, um, you know,

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accurate cannabis information with, um,
excellent articles on different, um,

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medical conditions and using
cannabis for it. And, um,

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at the end of all the articles, um,

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they have got links to all of the
original cannabis white papers, um,

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on that particular cannabis
medical topic. So, um,

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if I would recommend that you go anywhere
else, it would be to, uh, project cbd.

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So this episode is primarily
designed for patients

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and those who love them. Um, you know,

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I pretty much consider everyone who
uses cannabis to be a, you know,

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air quotes cannabis
patient because, you know,

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even if you're just using
cannabis as a, you know, you know,

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recreationally cuz it, you know,

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makes you feel good and maybe
decreases your anxiety and, you know,

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causes you to have fun when you're out
in nature or playing video games or

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whatever, you're using
it, uh, to, you know,

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as a euphoric to improve your
life so that, um, you know,

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<laugh> you have a life
that's worth living, right?

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Things are hard now for a lot of people,

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and a lot of us turn to cannabis for
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and that's a good thing. Um,

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so I wanna point out that the
vocabulary I'll be using today is a

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layman's vocabulary, primarily. Um,

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it's true that I do a lot of teaching
to caregivers and doctors and nurses and

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things like that to help them
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assess and plan for and dose
cannabis medicine in their clinics.

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But the vast majority of the people that
I talk to are just like regular folks,

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you know, like somebody's mom, somebody's
uncle, somebody's neighbor, um,

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and, and hell,

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a lot of the times it's just the people
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the island where I live. And so, um,
that's, those are the people that, uh,

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you know, i, I talk to most because
I think that's where I can have, um,

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the most authentic, uh, impact. So, um,
this episode is, is for those folks,

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for you folks, um, who are don't, don't
necessarily have medical training,

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and yet you really want to have a
specific dosing information, um,

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for yourself or to help the people
that you like. So, um, you know,

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my experience is with,
um, consulting, teaching,

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however you wanna put it, for
over a thousand patients, um,

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for almost a decade
now. And also as a, um,

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a medicine maker for myself. I've had
a brain injury, a couple car accidents,

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things like that. And so, um,
I've had the opportunity to, uh,

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participate in the Washington
medical market, um, and,

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and learn lots of different feedback
from different types of patients at

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different ages and, uh, you know,

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economic levels on
different types of products,

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from tinture to flour to
edibles to, uh, you know, um,

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what we call rso. But, uh,
I don't prefer that name.

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I I prefer just full extract cannabis,
oil, all that stuff, you know, and, and,

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and after you spend this much time talking
with people and learning everybody's

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best practices and then giving suggestions
to people and then hearing back

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from them, you know, I've
developed a pretty, um, good, uh,

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body of information in my head. And
then, um, you know, four years ago, um,

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uh, I put together a study
on vaon on CBD oil dosing,

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I guess has five years ago. No. Um,

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and then three years ago I did
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and that brought up a whole bunch of, uh,

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very interesting applications for cbg and
we'll talk about that later. And then,

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um, I'm just setting up one right now
on C B D V, the Veron version of, uh,

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cannabidiol. And so, um, you know,

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these are opportunities that
really afford me a lot more, um,

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first person information than, than
even most clinical doctors. So,

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so here we go. During the first set,

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we're gonna talk about some basics
about the endocannabinoid system

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and, uh,

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different methods of use of cannabis
and their pros and cons specifically

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for patients. And then, uh, during the
second set, we're gonna talk about,

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um, the specific, uh, cannabinoids
that we are most familiar with, and we,

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and we have actual dosing
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to help get your head wrapped around, um,

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like how to actually apply this
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is all about very specific
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that once we talk about those medical

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you'll have a really good idea of
how to think through similar medical

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conditions and, and how to
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Because my goal with this
episode is not just like,

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give you a spreadsheet in your head of,
okay, if you've got this, take this,

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if you've got this, take this. Because
really every human is different.

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And in individualized
medicine is something that
we can attain with cannabis.

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So, so let's do that. And so instead
of just giving you very, um, you know,

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tight dosing specifications for,

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for assuming everybody's the same,

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I want to teach you how to think about
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why the dosing is the way it is. And,

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and so you can make subtle changes
based on you or your patient's needs,

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and you can be a mo more
dynamic cannabis user than,

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um, than you would be if you were
just, you know, hearing, you know,

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the specific milligrams
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people's dosing needs flexibility.

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Let's start by talking about
the endocannabinoid system.

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The endocannabinoid system is,
uh, the human body's primary,

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uh, regulatory system.

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It's kind of like a thermostat for all
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body. Um, if you've got a system
that's running hot, it cools it down.

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system that's sluggish, um,

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it fires it up and, um,

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it brings everything back to
the middle, A balanced place,

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what they call in, um, Chinese
medicine to tonify, right,

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to bring back into balance. And that's
what the endocannabinoid system does. Um,

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I think of it, and, and I often explain
it as being a second grade teacher.

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When the second grade
teacher is in the classroom,

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the kids are generally behaving, right?

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They're doing their work
and doing their thing. Um,

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but if somebody comes to the door and the
second grade teacher needs to step out

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into the hallway for a moment,
the kids will be fine for a while,

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but eventually some kid will, you know,

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crack up or make a noise and then another
kid will crack up and then, you know,

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eventually a bunch of the kids are
cracking up until the second grade teacher

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comes back into the room. Same thing
with your endocannabinoid system.

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When the endocannabinoid system
is thriving and strong, um,

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it is regulating all of those bodily
systems the way that it's supposed to. Um,

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the challenge comes into when, um,
our endocannabinoid system, um,

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becomes weakened and different
folks have different systems

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fall into dysregulation. Um, that's
one of the odd things of why,

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uh, endocannabinoid deficiency can look
so different because when you have a

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weakened endocannabinoid system, you know,

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different people have got different
second grade students that go bad, right?

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So some, somebody, somebody
might, um, see it in, uh,

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migraines and somebody else might get
it in irritable bowel syndrome and

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somebody else might get
fibromyalgia. And, um,

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since somebody else might get
a combination of these things,

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and the longer they ignore it,

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they start to stack up more and
more of these ailments from the

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endocannabinoid system no longer
effectively keeping their different bodily

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systems in balance.

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And so that's why it's so important to
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beginning becoming deficient.

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Some of the most common first things we
see are ibs, fibromyalgia, migraines,

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but also autoimmune issues and
Parkinson's and dementia. Um,

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these are all ailments that
at their core have got an

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endocannabinoid, um, base.

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So let's talk a little bit more
about endocannabinoid deficiency.

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So these are aspects of a
dysregulated endocannabinoid system,

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right?

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When the endocannabinoid
system is not making enough,

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uh, andogenous cannabinoids, which means
cannabinoids that are made in the body,

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um, it doesn't have enough signaling
molecules to go around the body and,

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and do the work and to
regulate these systems. And,

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you know, if you, if you refer to
Dr. Ethan Russo's original paper on,

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uh, endocannabinoid deficiency,

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and you look at the causes for
endocannabinoid deficiency,

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it reads just like a normal day in
America, listen to this. These are,

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these are the five, uh, big things.
So number one, environmental toxins,

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number two,

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pharmaceuticals that repress the immune
system or intentionally dysregulate the

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human body in some way, like chemo being
an extreme example. Um, but, you know,

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antibiotics are another example. So
it doesn't, it doesn't take much.

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You're just,

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we're just talking about
any pharmaceutical that's
gonna be repressing normal,

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uh, endocannabinoid operation, poor sleep,

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poor nutrition, and stress.
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that's just the modern world. So, um,

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it is very likely that most,

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if not everybody in the country has
got an endocannabinoid deficiency.

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And that explains why we've
got this is, you know,

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such a terrible situation with, uh,

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so many people getting
sick in different ways and,

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and having weakened immune
systems, which, you know,

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cause us to walk around our lives
with heightened anxiety and, uh,

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susceptible to all sorts of,
um, you know, disease and virus.

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So, you know, when teaching
specifically about C B D,

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cannabis medicine in general,
but really about cbd,

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some people become skeptical asking
how can one supplement help so

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many different ailments,

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but it's really just one thing
that CBD supports, right?

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And that's the endocannabinoid system,

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but that system touches
nearly everything in the body.

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So when we add a cannabidiol
c b D as a supplement,

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it just makes sense that if you would
strengthen the body's self-regulation

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system,

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that you would also empower the body to
make the changes it needs everywhere.

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So this is why they say,
oh, you got migraines cbd,

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you got irritable bowel
syndrome, you got, you know, cbd,

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you got poor sleep cbd, you got pain
cbd. It's like, ah, come on, man. Like,

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it can't be a panacea. But it is.

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And it isn't like it really does
help alleviate all of this suffering,

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but it's really just because
it's helping one system.

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And that system is the
endocannabinoid system,

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and that's the master regulatory system.

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So it's really just a
matter of perspective. Um,

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if you wanna learn more about this, uh,
firsthand from Dr. Ethan Russo, his,

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uh, seminal paper on that
from 2004 called Clinical

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Endocannabinoid Deficiency, um, is
available easily for free online.

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And if you go to the, uh, shaping Fire
website for this episode number 100,

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um, I've got a link to it, uh, for you
there. Um, also if you want to hear Dr.

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Ethan Russo talking about endocannabinoid
deficiency in medical cannabis,

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I actually did an interview with
him about endocannabinoid deficiency

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a long time ago, back in, uh, 2015, um,

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when I was still a partner
over@goentrepreneur.com and hosting the

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Go entrepreneur.com podcast.

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So if you go over the to
preneur.com into 2015,

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um, you can find my interview with Dr.

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Russo there before I left
Entrepreneur and started Shaping Fire.

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you can also read a very helpful
article on endocannabinoid nutrition,

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um, from 2016. Um, actually
it's not an article,

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it's another interview I did
with, uh, Ethan Russo, um,

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at Entrepreneur again. So, uh, I did a,

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I did a full year of weekly
episodes for them, like,

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I think I did like 54 episodes
before, um, before I wished them well,

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and came over and started, uh,
shaping Fire. So, so in 2016,

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that episode's called Endo
Cannabinoid Nutrition. And, um,

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it's probably really easy
if you just, you know,

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Google endocannabinoid Nutrition,

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Ethan Russo entrepreneur,
that'll get you there.

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Um, also, uh, more recently though, uh,

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if you want to learn more about
endocannabinoid mechanics,

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I also recommend shaping
Fire episodes 78 and 81,

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and they're both with Dr. Miab Shields,
who is an endocannabinoid researcher.

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And, uh, we talk in detail about
endocannabinoid mechanics and, um,

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you know, kind of the endocannabinoid
system in depth. And, um,

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and Miab is, uh, absolutely,
uh, a fantastic guest and, um,

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a, uh, pharmacologist and really
understands, um, you know, the,

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the biochemical, um, workings of,

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of the human body. So, all right, so,
so let's move on to the next section.

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You can always look up more on the
endocannabinoid system, but, uh,

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I think that that is a good enough
explanation for, for most folks, uh,

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to get a good picture of it in their head.

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So the next thing we're gonna talk
about is a method of use, right?

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How do you get the, um, uh,
cannabinoids into your body?

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And so,

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so how we jump from endo
cannabinoids to using the cannabis

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plant is pretty simple. Um, I mentioned
that the endo cannabinoid system,

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uh, creates and manages, uh, cannabinoids.

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And when they're made inside the
body, they're called endocannabinoids,

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cuz they're endogenous to
the body. They're, they're
germane to the body, they,

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they come from the body. Um,

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but if your body is not
making them because you have
endocannabinoid deficiency,

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you've gotta get them elsewhere.

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And then you've got to put them in your
body to strengthen your endocannabinoid

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00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:53,920
system, and hopefully you'd
be able to decrease those, um,

438
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:58,400
those five things that cause
endocannabinoid deficiency, right?

439
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:02,000
So that you can start making your own
again. Um, in the interim, you're gonna,

440
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:06,520
you're gonna supplement with
phyto cannabinoids, which are, uh,

441
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,360
cannabinoids that come
from plants. So, you know,

442
00:27:09,360 --> 00:27:13,880
your long term goal is actually to
take phyto cannabinoids from cannabis,

443
00:27:14,300 --> 00:27:18,040
but then also go back and,
and fix as best as you can,

444
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,240
the five things that cause endocannabinoid
deficiency, right? The poor sleep,

445
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:25,160
all right? Get better sleep,
poor nutrition, eat better
food, eat fresher food,

446
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:29,080
don't eat as much processed food,
environmental toxins. Well that's pretty,

447
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:32,240
that's, that's pretty difficult if
you live in the city. But, you know,

448
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:36,920
do what you can to decrease
environmental toxins. And then, um, uh,

449
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:38,400
decrease the, the, you know,

450
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,800
as much as you can the pharmaceuticals
in your life that are screwing up your

451
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,920
endocannabinoid system, which, uh, for,

452
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:49,360
for many of these ailments we
take pharmaceuticals for, um,

453
00:27:49,360 --> 00:27:54,120
we would be better to take a cannabis
medicine full of phyto cannabinoids

454
00:27:54,410 --> 00:27:56,240
to strengthen our endocannabinoid system,

455
00:27:56,240 --> 00:28:00,960
to let the endocannabinoid system solve
these issues for us instead of taking,

456
00:28:01,250 --> 00:28:06,160
um, more radicalized
pharmaceuticals, um, that often have,

457
00:28:06,410 --> 00:28:09,720
um, uh, unpleasant, um, side effects. So,

458
00:28:10,650 --> 00:28:14,640
so we want to get phyto
cannabinoids into our body and,

459
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,240
and those are in the plant. And so, um,

460
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:22,480
let's talk about the different
ways that you can, um, take,

461
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,550
um, the cannabis plant into your body.

462
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:31,200
Let's start with the most common way
that people get cannabis into their body,

463
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,000
which is by smoking it. So, um,

464
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:39,400
while the most traditional and
accepted way to use cannabis dosing

465
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:44,120
from smoking cannabis
plants is hard because it's

466
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:45,320
very inexact,

467
00:28:45,620 --> 00:28:50,560
and often patients don't have proper test
results for whatever they are smoking.

468
00:28:51,330 --> 00:28:53,760
Um, the inexact part is that you,

469
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:58,680
you don't know how much of
the flour or a joint or a bowl

470
00:28:58,810 --> 00:29:03,040
or bong to smoke to get the
dosage that you're shooting for.

471
00:29:03,290 --> 00:29:07,840
If you're, if you're shooting for
five or 10 milligrams of, of thc,

472
00:29:08,250 --> 00:29:12,200
um, you know, it's, it's a very, you
know, it could just be, you know, another,

473
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:17,120
an extra two puffs that take you from
where you wanna be to actually being more

474
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:21,320
medicated than you want to be. And, and
you've missed the zone that you want,

475
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,760
that you want to target, um, to
help you with your ailment. I mean,

476
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,360
we've all had the experience of,

477
00:29:27,490 --> 00:29:30,440
of wanting to have a little puffy
puff before we go somewhere,

478
00:29:30,580 --> 00:29:33,560
and it ends up coming on a lot
stronger. And then we're like, oh,

479
00:29:33,670 --> 00:29:35,040
I guess I can't leave right now.

480
00:29:35,180 --> 00:29:38,760
And you have to wait to come down a
bit before you go. Well, you know, if,

481
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:42,640
if you're in the social time of your day
and you don't have a lot of pressure on

482
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,000
you, well, that, that's, that's
fine, you know, you can do that. Um,

483
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,680
but if you've gotta like get, you know,

484
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:51,720
if you're in a lot of pain and you
have to get to work, if you are, uh,

485
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:55,040
if you're having a lot of suffering and
you have to stay sharp to take care of

486
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,200
your kids, you know, really, um,

487
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:01,720
smoking may not be the way to
go because it is so hard to

488
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:06,680
titrate your dosage and know exactly
what you're taking. Also, you know,

489
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:07,760
the, the, the, the,

490
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:12,600
the most patients don't have test
results for the flour that they're

491
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:17,080
smoking. Most folks don't get the flour
that they grow at home tested. Um,

492
00:30:17,230 --> 00:30:21,280
most folks don't get, um, uh, analysis,

493
00:30:21,610 --> 00:30:25,400
testing, um, when they buy
their weed from their neighbor.

494
00:30:26,460 --> 00:30:31,440
And, you know, if you're, if you're
shopping at a medical or a licensed, um,

495
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,880
you know, recreational store, you know,

496
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,200
they may or may not have
the analysis on hand.

497
00:30:37,710 --> 00:30:40,880
Some states they don't have to
have it there, they just, you know,

498
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:45,000
need to have it back at the original
grower and you can, you know,

499
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,000
email them for it, right?

500
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:51,400
So a big difference whether or not it's
available in the store or if it just

501
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:55,280
like theoretically exists in the
world, and you could ask for it also,

502
00:30:55,310 --> 00:30:57,480
just because, you know, the,

503
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:02,400
there is a certificate of analysis
in the store and you can look at it.

504
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:07,120
That doesn't necessarily mean those are
the ratios that are in your particular

505
00:31:07,150 --> 00:31:09,280
flower. Um, you know,

506
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,880
they're different parts of the plant
will develop different cannabinoids.

507
00:31:12,890 --> 00:31:15,160
So the things on the top
that are going to the,

508
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,080
the flowers on the top
that are getting, um, uh,

509
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:22,440
longer and more intense sunshine, they
will develop different cannabinoids then,

510
00:31:22,770 --> 00:31:24,640
um, flour that is, you know,

511
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:28,240
more in the interior or on
the middle or towards the low.

512
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,880
And so different parts of the plant are,

513
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:35,000
are actually going to be different
medicine to some degree. Um,

514
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:39,840
also smoking cannabis results
in cannabinoid conversion. Um,

515
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:40,800
you know, it's, it's,

516
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:45,720
it's kind of a myth that the lab
results that you are getting about your

517
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:50,680
flour is showing what exactly
is going into your body when

518
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,000
you smoke it. Um,

519
00:31:52,090 --> 00:31:56,960
we know from significant research
that when you combust, um,

520
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,560
the, the, the flour,

521
00:31:58,900 --> 00:32:02,840
the cannabinoids convert to
different cannabinoids often.

522
00:32:03,420 --> 00:32:08,280
And so, um, you get this, um,
you know, cannabinoid drift and,

523
00:32:08,410 --> 00:32:08,780
um,

524
00:32:08,780 --> 00:32:13,560
you would only know what you're actually
getting in your smoke by testing the

525
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,840
smoke, which is not something
that's available to nearly anybody.

526
00:32:16,940 --> 00:32:20,120
The reason why smoking is, you know,

527
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,640
move so fast is because
when you inhale the smoke,

528
00:32:23,070 --> 00:32:28,040
your lungs are very efficient at,
um, at bringing in cannabinoids,

529
00:32:28,090 --> 00:32:31,160
um, through the, through
the lung, and, um,

530
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:35,320
it's very quickly in the blood
and then it's very quickly, um,

531
00:32:35,450 --> 00:32:39,880
to your brain and distributed around
your body. So it's just the fastest.

532
00:32:40,460 --> 00:32:43,480
And so as soon as you smoke, you know,

533
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:47,560
within the first 10 to 15
minutes, you take this fast,

534
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,800
fast ride up, this rollercoaster,

535
00:32:51,100 --> 00:32:56,000
and then you slowly start to, you
know, come down over time. Um,

536
00:32:56,410 --> 00:33:01,000
whereas, uh, you know, when you
are using a different method,

537
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,880
which we'll talk about, you're not,
you're not going up really fast.

538
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:05,920
You're going up at a measured pace,

539
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:09,840
and you're coming down as a
measured pace and for repeatable,

540
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:13,600
for results and for continuing to be
able to be productive during your day.

541
00:33:13,990 --> 00:33:16,480
This is what is called for, uh,

542
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,120
most of the time for
patients rather than smoking.

543
00:33:19,650 --> 00:33:24,120
So obviously with the added caveat
that, um, you know, if you, uh,

544
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:29,040
have got a, an acute situation
as a patient and you need
medicine now, you know,

545
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:32,920
top of mind would be, uh,
severe pain patients, um,

546
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:36,920
and some types of, uh, you
know, anxiety patients.

547
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:41,040
Sometimes you need to smoke
now and you need the, the,

548
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:45,040
the cannabinoids to hit your bloodstream
now. And for those folks, certainly,

549
00:33:45,130 --> 00:33:48,960
um, smoking makes the most sense.
Um, but generally speaking,

550
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,920
for most ailments that most
cannabis patients have,

551
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:55,000
smoking will not be your option
cuz it's, it's too uncontrolled.

552
00:33:56,090 --> 00:34:00,920
So let's talk about cannabis
oil. So cannabis oil is, um,

553
00:34:00,940 --> 00:34:05,680
the concentrated resin that is found
in the trichomes on the cannabis

554
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:10,520
flour. Um, this is where the
majority of the medicine lives that,

555
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:15,040
that we remove from the plant.
Um, there are, uh, you know,

556
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:16,880
a lot of different, uh,

557
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:21,680
solvents that you can use to
remove cannabis oil from the plant

558
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:26,360
material. Um, over the years, um,
hydrocarbons have been very, you know,

559
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:30,480
pop popular, um, butane propane, and, um,

560
00:34:30,980 --> 00:34:34,520
but there's been a lot of pushback around
that because not everybody knows how

561
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:39,360
to purge, um, those hydrocarbons
from the oil correctly.

562
00:34:39,500 --> 00:34:43,480
And, and some of that can
end up in your human. Um,

563
00:34:43,590 --> 00:34:47,440
I much prefer, as does many, um, uh,

564
00:34:48,240 --> 00:34:52,960
medicine makers to use ethanol because
ethanol does a really good job at,

565
00:34:53,250 --> 00:34:55,560
uh, removing, uh, the,

566
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:59,940
the vital components of
the resin and, um, is,

567
00:34:59,940 --> 00:35:04,940
is quite easy to, uh, remove after
the fact, um, by just adding,

568
00:35:05,110 --> 00:35:10,060
um, a small amount of heat and the
alcohol just vapes off. So, um, it's,

569
00:35:10,060 --> 00:35:13,860
it's pretty hard to get into
trouble with ethanol and, uh,

570
00:35:13,870 --> 00:35:18,140
is is certainly what is most called
for for home medicine creation.

571
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:19,140
But honestly,

572
00:35:19,140 --> 00:35:23,540
I've got a lot of respect for licensed
companies that use ethanol too. Um,

573
00:35:23,540 --> 00:35:27,540
because even though it's a, it's a
little bit more, uh, laborious than, um,

574
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,940
you know, hydrocarbons often, um, uh,

575
00:35:30,940 --> 00:35:33,100
I think it gives a much
better snapshot of,

576
00:35:33,100 --> 00:35:37,060
of all of the healing potential
that is in, um, the resin. So,

577
00:35:37,890 --> 00:35:42,600
um, so yeah, a lot of people call it
rso, Rick Simpson Oil. Um, you know,

578
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,080
while Rick Simpson, uh,

579
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:48,400
deserves some respect for
popularizing rso, um, you know,

580
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,400
it's not like he invented
it, you know, um,

581
00:35:50,490 --> 00:35:54,760
he did bring it to a larger audience
and for that will ever be grateful.

582
00:35:55,730 --> 00:35:59,520
Um, but, you know, a lot of his original
recipes, you know, when we look at now,

583
00:35:59,730 --> 00:36:03,560
um, you know, they're using
dangerous solvents. And so, um,

584
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:07,760
that was a little sketchy, but,
you know, building on what, um,

585
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,200
Rick made popular, um,

586
00:36:10,720 --> 00:36:15,240
there are now more modern processes
that, for example, use ethanol, uh,

587
00:36:15,240 --> 00:36:17,760
which is the primary solvent use nowadays.

588
00:36:18,220 --> 00:36:22,800
And so we all still kind of call
it RSO because that's what people

589
00:36:23,030 --> 00:36:26,040
know it first. Um, but um,

590
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:29,760
it's been a whole bunch of other names
have been tried to be given to it. Um,

591
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:34,440
another popular one is feco, uh, full
extract cannabis oil. Unfortunately,

592
00:36:34,550 --> 00:36:37,040
FECO sounds like fecal
though, right? I don't,

593
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,680
I don't think fecal is ever gonna
like, catch on fully nationally,

594
00:36:40,700 --> 00:36:45,560
but full extract cannabis oil that, I
mean, that, that sounds good, <laugh>. Um,

595
00:36:45,900 --> 00:36:46,840
and, uh, and,

596
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:50,640
and so some companies have tried to name
their process different things, but,

597
00:36:50,730 --> 00:36:51,563
um,

598
00:36:51,750 --> 00:36:55,960
I'll probably sometimes accidentally
say RSO during this episode.

599
00:36:56,410 --> 00:37:01,400
Um, but I usually just, uh, I just
usually call it full, full, uh,

600
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:06,160
extract cannabis oil and just say those
words and don't usually use fico. But,

601
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:10,800
um, but now you're at least familiar
with the terminology. So, um,

602
00:37:10,980 --> 00:37:15,440
one of the reasons why using,
uh, full extract cannabis oil is,

603
00:37:15,650 --> 00:37:16,600
um, is,

604
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:21,400
is probably at the top of the list
of what to use as a patient is

605
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,200
because once the oil was made, um,

606
00:37:24,820 --> 00:37:28,840
all of the oil is pretty
uniform and homogenized. Um,

607
00:37:29,030 --> 00:37:32,360
it's not like, oh, this
part of the batch, um,

608
00:37:32,500 --> 00:37:35,560
has got these cannabinoids and this
part of the batch has got these other

609
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:39,840
cannabinoids. Um, once you have, um,

610
00:37:40,950 --> 00:37:45,640
soaked the cannabis in the
ethanol and then gone and

611
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,640
vaped off the ethanol,

612
00:37:48,140 --> 00:37:51,960
the the sticky resin that you're left
with is pretty homogenized and it's all

613
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:56,240
the same. And so when
you go ahead and you, um,

614
00:37:56,240 --> 00:38:00,960
send it off to a cannabis lab to have the

615
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:01,800
analytics done,

616
00:38:02,140 --> 00:38:07,000
you know that those analytics
are representative of all of the

617
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:08,000
medicine in the batch.

618
00:38:08,380 --> 00:38:10,760
And you can compare that to
what we were just talking about,

619
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:15,760
about cannabis flowers, where, um, the
flowers that are at the top, middle,

620
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:20,440
bottom or interior of the plant will
all have slightly different, um,

621
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:24,200
cannabinoid profiles. Um,
but by the time it's in oil,

622
00:38:24,290 --> 00:38:28,720
because it's all been put, you know,
it's all been soaked and, and, um,

623
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:33,520
vaped off together, your oil
is, is essentially uniform.

624
00:38:33,820 --> 00:38:35,680
And that's great. And, you know, if,

625
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:39,480
if you happen to live somewhere where
you don't have access to a cannabis lab,

626
00:38:40,770 --> 00:38:42,280
at least you know that when you,

627
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:47,240
when you take your first trials of
your oil to see how strong you made it,

628
00:38:47,470 --> 00:38:50,600
once you've, you know, you've taken it
three or four times and you're like,

629
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:55,080
okay, I know how much I need
as a patient of my stuff.

630
00:38:55,610 --> 00:38:59,760
Um, it's gonna be like that for the
rest of the, that oil that you take.

631
00:39:00,110 --> 00:39:03,760
It's not like, um, you're gonna take the
first couple and you'll be like, okay,

632
00:39:04,030 --> 00:39:06,160
I now know that I need, you know,

633
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:10,760
0.05 milliliters of this oil for the

634
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:14,440
medicinal experience that
I'm looking for only to like,

635
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:18,320
take that same amount four days later.
And you're like, oh my God, I'm so high.

636
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:18,680
Like,

637
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:22,880
that's not what medicinal cannabis about
is about medicinal cannabis is about

638
00:39:22,950 --> 00:39:27,920
repeatable results that you can rely
on to improve your health and improve

639
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,880
the strength of your endocannabinoid
system and allow you to take cannabinoids

640
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:36,480
while you can still function in life
by, by, you know, going to work or,

641
00:39:36,610 --> 00:39:40,960
or taking care of your family, or
I don't know if you're bad enough,

642
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:45,720
just live, right? So, um, we're
looking for repeatable results,

643
00:39:45,820 --> 00:39:48,960
and that is one great
aspect of cannabis oil.

644
00:39:49,930 --> 00:39:53,480
Another thing that's great about cannabis
oil is, um, you know, when you're,

645
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,800
when you're buying flour, um,

646
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:01,440
flour costs money. If it's got any part,

647
00:40:01,490 --> 00:40:05,200
it costs more money if it's got
any sort of bag of peel, right?

648
00:40:05,650 --> 00:40:07,080
So the,

649
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:11,600
the least expensive flour to
buy is flour that is ugly.

650
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:15,760
And I don't, I don't mean all molded
and and such, but I mean like,

651
00:40:16,030 --> 00:40:20,960
like mids and lowers and stuff that
was trimmed badly or wasn't trimmed

652
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:21,800
at all. Like,

653
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:26,240
this is the best stuff to be
making cannabis oil out of,

654
00:40:26,620 --> 00:40:31,480
and it also happens to be the cheapest
stuff in the market. And so, um,

655
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,840
it's not, it's not uncommon for a,

656
00:40:33,870 --> 00:40:38,000
a home grower to take all of
the tops off their plant and,

657
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:42,040
and cure them and either keep 'em or
sell them and then take all of the,

658
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:45,600
the lowers and either
process it themselves or,

659
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:50,560
or give it to a loved one who's a,
a patient to make into cannabis oil.

660
00:40:51,140 --> 00:40:55,840
And so, you know, back in the day,
you know, we used to call that trash,

661
00:40:56,100 --> 00:40:59,920
and so people would all like, where'd
you dump your trash? Because all,

662
00:40:59,980 --> 00:41:03,800
all of those, all that trim
that came off the plant, uh,

663
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,920
people weren't really doing
extraction yet. And so, um,

664
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:10,560
people were just trying to play find
places to dump it where no one would find

665
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:15,120
it and, and bust them back in the day.
And then, then all of a sudden, um,

666
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:16,880
people started, uh,

667
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:21,280
blasting bho in their backyards and
trim became like, really valuable.

668
00:41:21,940 --> 00:41:23,120
And then, you know,

669
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:27,360
we've just evolved from there that we
now use every part of the plant. And, um,

670
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,680
we're not gonna talk about
making cannabis oil today,

671
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,880
but I just want you to
understand that, um,

672
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:36,840
the advantages of cannabis
oil in its, um, uh,

673
00:41:37,700 --> 00:41:42,680
consistency of analytical results
throughout the batch and the

674
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,800
fact that once you put it
in a capsule and take it,

675
00:41:45,870 --> 00:41:50,200
your body will process the capsule
and, and take the cannabinoids in.

676
00:41:50,580 --> 00:41:54,960
And then you will slowly
feel, um, you know,

677
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:59,040
the cannabinoids or not
feel them depending on the
dose that you, you choose.

678
00:41:59,540 --> 00:42:04,440
And you'll slowly have an inten
intensity of cannabinoids and it'll

679
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:09,320
slowly go down. And that process usually
takes between three to four hours.

680
00:42:09,530 --> 00:42:14,240
So a patient who is, uh,
doing a cannabis oil protocol,

681
00:42:14,930 --> 00:42:19,800
um, will often take their capsule every
three to four hours, depending on,

682
00:42:19,850 --> 00:42:23,560
um, you know, their needs and,
and what they can afford. Um,

683
00:42:24,260 --> 00:42:27,880
the last thing I wanna say about the
cannabis oil is that, um, you know,

684
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:32,880
because it's usually, um, offered
in syringes, like oral syringes,

685
00:42:33,090 --> 00:42:36,880
um, it's also quite easy
to make, uh, capsules. Um,

686
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:41,840
most folks will pick up, um,
one milliliter capsules on eBay,

687
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:46,800
excuse me, one milliliter syringes,
oral syringes on eBay. And, uh,

688
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:50,800
you make your oil at home and you fill
your syringes. And then the, uh, the,

689
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,760
the, the nozzle,

690
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:58,720
the nipple non nozzle <laugh> on the
one milli milliliter syringe fits

691
00:42:58,720 --> 00:43:02,680
really nicely into a
number three size capsule.

692
00:43:03,300 --> 00:43:04,160
And so it,

693
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:08,520
it makes making your capsules really
easy and the sides of the syringes

694
00:43:08,820 --> 00:43:11,600
are marked. So you know whether or
not you're putting in, you know,

695
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:15,840
0.05 milliliter or 0.1 of a
milliliter, which is, you know,

696
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:20,800
usually where most people are.
Um, and, uh, and people can, uh,

697
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:25,480
take it by there. Um, one note, if you
are going to buy your own capsules,

698
00:43:25,970 --> 00:43:29,400
um, uh, I recommend that when
you buy them, buy them separated.

699
00:43:29,630 --> 00:43:31,360
I went years before you could,

700
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:35,880
before I realize that you could buy
your capsules separated. And so I,

701
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,960
I would just buy bags of capsules
that were, that looked like capsules,

702
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:43,200
then I'd have to separate them
all by hand before I filled

703
00:43:43,690 --> 00:43:47,560
my, um, my capsules with the
oil. And I gotta tell you,

704
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:51,560
when I was first starting making my
capsules after I got my dual concussion

705
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:55,160
resulting in a traumatic brain
injury, um, like that was,

706
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:57,720
that like filling capsules
was mentally a lot of work.

707
00:43:57,940 --> 00:44:00,640
And so I wanted to make the
process as slow as possible,

708
00:44:00,820 --> 00:44:04,200
and it would've been really nice to
have known that I could have just bought

709
00:44:04,950 --> 00:44:09,840
caps that came in, two bags separated.
So, um, so there's pro tip for you.

710
00:44:10,150 --> 00:44:13,000
Okay, let's talk about
tincture now. So, um,

711
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:17,840
one of the interesting things
about tincture is that tincture

712
00:44:18,050 --> 00:44:22,360
is at its most essential cannabis
oil that we just talked about,

713
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:27,480
suspended in ethanol. Um, because,

714
00:44:27,730 --> 00:44:29,680
uh, when you make the cannabis oil,

715
00:44:30,100 --> 00:44:34,600
you are using ethanol to
extract the resin components

716
00:44:34,710 --> 00:44:38,800
from the trichomes on the
flour with a tincture.

717
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:43,600
What you have is the
cannabis resin suspended in

718
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:47,720
ethanol, which is what's
used to extract it. Um,

719
00:44:47,720 --> 00:44:52,240
now it's certainly true that some
people will add, um, you know, uh,

720
00:44:52,240 --> 00:44:57,160
vegetable glycerin or coconut
or honey or a lot of other

721
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:01,440
things to adulterate the oil to make
it more palatable, right? Because, um,

722
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:05,360
a straight ethanol tincture, I mean,
that's got, that's got some bite to it,

723
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:06,280
right? Um,

724
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:10,360
I normally tell patients that if
they're making an ethanol tincture to be

725
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:11,560
prepared to just, you know,

726
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:14,960
take their dose and put it in a little
bit of water and then just drink the

727
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:18,320
water. Cuz you know, if you're, if
you're gonna be using, you know,

728
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,920
food grade ethanol at 190 proof,
say for example, ever clear,

729
00:45:22,230 --> 00:45:27,080
I mean ever clear burns most people's
tongues, right? And so, um, you know,

730
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:27,680
just putting it,

731
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:32,600
putting a little bit of water in a
sock glass or a shot glass and then

732
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:37,360
adding your tincture to that will
make the ethanol a lot more palatable

733
00:45:37,850 --> 00:45:42,800
if you happen to be in recovery from
alcohol. And, um, you, you know, are,

734
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:47,480
you're not, you, you have chosen to not
have any alcohol at all in your life.

735
00:45:48,010 --> 00:45:52,840
Um, what many patients do is that
they will make a, uh, hot tea,

736
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:54,720
not boiling, but just like hot tea,

737
00:45:55,260 --> 00:46:00,160
and then they'll put their tincture
into the hot tea and the tea

738
00:46:00,390 --> 00:46:05,320
just like let it sit for a couple minutes
and the hot tea will vape off, um,

739
00:46:05,700 --> 00:46:09,840
you know, the ethanol aspect of
it and will just leave the, uh,

740
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:13,720
cannabinoids the resin, uh, in the
tea. And then you just drink your tea.

741
00:46:13,720 --> 00:46:16,800
And that seems to work for them. Um, so,

742
00:46:17,010 --> 00:46:21,760
so one of the things that's great
about tincture is that when you put the

743
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:25,560
resin into the ethanol, um,

744
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:30,520
once you let it sit for a little bit,
it will, uh, self homogenize, it will,

745
00:46:30,810 --> 00:46:34,400
uh, become ubiquitous,
uh, throughout the jar.

746
00:46:34,460 --> 00:46:37,600
And which means that, um, if you,

747
00:46:37,930 --> 00:46:41,600
if you make your tincture and you strain
your tincture and then you let it sit

748
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:45,950
for, you know, a day and, and
let it come to, I don't know,

749
00:46:45,950 --> 00:46:48,990
I wanna say homeostasis, but I don't
think that's right. But if you wanna,

750
00:46:48,990 --> 00:46:53,630
if you give it time to
self homogenize, um, uh,

751
00:46:53,850 --> 00:46:58,430
you can go ahead and, and, and take
a sample out of it. Um, you know,

752
00:46:58,430 --> 00:47:02,670
I like using a Turkey baster.
Take a sample out of it and,

753
00:47:02,670 --> 00:47:06,990
and put it in a little one ounce
bottle and send it off to your, um,

754
00:47:07,470 --> 00:47:09,270
cannabis lab. And you'll
know that the test,

755
00:47:09,270 --> 00:47:12,750
that test results that
come back apply to, um,

756
00:47:12,950 --> 00:47:17,670
the entire jar of tincture that
you've made. And so, you know,

757
00:47:17,670 --> 00:47:20,150
that's the same thing I like about
cannabis oil, right? That it's,

758
00:47:20,150 --> 00:47:23,670
that it's uniform and it is one of the
biggest problems with smoking flour.

759
00:47:23,670 --> 00:47:27,190
Cause that's not uniform.
So, so tincture we like,

760
00:47:27,190 --> 00:47:31,320
because it's really easy for
anybody to make. And, um, you know,

761
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,400
if you don't add the adultery and,

762
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:38,000
and I don't add any adultery to the
stuff that I make for myself and, um,

763
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:42,160
the stuff that I make for my
parents because, um, you know,

764
00:47:42,770 --> 00:47:44,440
as we get older,

765
00:47:44,770 --> 00:47:49,360
it is more difficult to
shake a bottle of tincture.

766
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:53,400
And if, and if you've got, you
know, cannabis resin in there,

767
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:57,000
maybe a little bit of ethanol
and some glycerin, uh,

768
00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:01,560
those have all got different weights
and they will not be uniform in the,

769
00:48:01,620 --> 00:48:04,480
the, in the tincture bottle.
And so if you, if you, you know,

770
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:05,720
give it the kind of shake that you,

771
00:48:05,720 --> 00:48:08,880
you can imagine you do with a
tincture bottle, like you, you,

772
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,440
that's not gonna homogenize it,
right? You're just gonna like,

773
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,520
kind of mix it up a bit. Um,

774
00:48:13,740 --> 00:48:18,680
but that means that if you are
taking a tincture that has got THC

775
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:23,400
in it, which, um, you know, can
and can, can cause intoxication,

776
00:48:24,210 --> 00:48:28,760
um, you will not be getting
consistent doses, right? If, if one,

777
00:48:29,170 --> 00:48:30,003
um,

778
00:48:30,250 --> 00:48:34,800
if one squirt of the dropper is
usually gonna be five milligrams and,

779
00:48:34,820 --> 00:48:38,040
and your tincture has got, you know,

780
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:42,240
honey or glycerin or something else,
you're gonna get, you know, you, your,

781
00:48:42,240 --> 00:48:45,680
your your drop or could have
anywhere between like, you know,

782
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:50,000
maybe two to eight
milligrams of THC in it. Um,

783
00:48:50,220 --> 00:48:54,680
and that's a, that's a really
big swing for, uh, most patients,

784
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:59,000
especially new patients.
And so, um, so yeah, uh,

785
00:48:59,020 --> 00:49:02,520
and a lot of the, you know, a lot of
folks can't, they don't have the wrist,

786
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:07,120
you know, to be able to, to
shake it anymore because,
um, they've got arthritis.

787
00:49:07,250 --> 00:49:08,320
So, so, you know,

788
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:13,040
if you're making your own stuff
and you're making a C B D and

789
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:13,680
like the,

790
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:18,280
the actual amount at any particular
time doesn't matter as much

791
00:49:18,450 --> 00:49:22,040
as you making sure you take it four times
a day and making sure you get a daily

792
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:26,280
dose. Well, sure, you know,
put glycerin or, you know,

793
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:31,240
agave or honey or whatever
with your c because having

794
00:49:31,240 --> 00:49:35,440
each dose be exactly the same, it's
not really as big of a deal with cbd.

795
00:49:36,090 --> 00:49:39,640
Um, but with THC it
does because if, if you,

796
00:49:39,770 --> 00:49:44,240
if you go too high, um,
you know, you may get, uh,

797
00:49:44,430 --> 00:49:47,600
more THC than you are prepared
for at that part of your day.

798
00:49:48,690 --> 00:49:51,360
Another thing that's
great about tincture, um,

799
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:54,040
when it's in ethanol is that
it's, uh, shelf stable, right?

800
00:49:54,140 --> 00:49:56,640
And so for a lot of patients, um,

801
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:59,320
you don't have an opportunity
to make tincture all the time.

802
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:03,160
You might grow your few
outdoor plants every summer,

803
00:50:03,580 --> 00:50:05,320
and then you're gonna
wanna, you know, you'll,

804
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:10,040
you'll choose to process
that into tincture and that
tincture needs to last you

805
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:13,200
a whole year. And, um, you know, uh,

806
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:17,000
cannabis oil and tincture and
ethanol are both, you know,

807
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:21,200
quite shelf stable if you keep
them out of the sun and cool.

808
00:50:21,850 --> 00:50:26,680
Um, and, uh, cannabis oil specifically
does pretty well in the crispr.

809
00:50:27,290 --> 00:50:30,080
Um, but if you're putting
your, uh, you know,

810
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:33,680
you don't have to do that
with the tincture as much
because of the ethanol. Um,

811
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:38,400
you can either just store it in a
mason jar in a dark closet or, um,

812
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,760
if you, if you wanna stay, keep
strict controls over your use,

813
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:46,480
you can put it into one ounce tincture
bottles that you can pick up online for

814
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:50,960
places from places like specialty
bottle.com and then just, you know,

815
00:50:51,170 --> 00:50:55,720
um, fill those bottles for yourself,
label them and put them away.

816
00:50:55,720 --> 00:50:57,840
And for a lot of people, um,

817
00:50:59,030 --> 00:51:03,480
managing their tincture use that way
is very visual because, you know, like,

818
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:04,320
okay, I've got, I,

819
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:08,680
I've made 30 bottles and this
has gotta last me the year.

820
00:51:08,780 --> 00:51:12,920
And so you, you can just see them in
the box and as the box gets lower,

821
00:51:13,150 --> 00:51:15,080
you've got a really good, um,

822
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:19,920
visual example of of how
much you've got left and, uh,

823
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:21,280
<laugh> and, you know, if,

824
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:24,520
if you should be getting nervous and
maybe figuring out where to get some more

825
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:29,520
flour to make some more or, uh, more
hopefully you're just re you know,

826
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:33,920
reinforcing the peace of mind that you
are a self-sufficient cannabis patient

827
00:51:34,020 --> 00:51:36,560
and, and you can take care of
yourself and you got what you need.

828
00:51:36,610 --> 00:51:40,280
So that's great. Another thing
that's great about tincture is, uh,

829
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:43,760
being able to, uh, control
and fine tune your dosing.

830
00:51:44,170 --> 00:51:48,760
So with the cannabis oil that we talked
about, and certainly with smoking, um,

831
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:52,880
with cannabis oil, because
the oil is concentrated, um,

832
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:57,240
it's harder to hit low
numbers. So, um, you know,

833
00:51:57,270 --> 00:52:01,680
most of the time when I'm
talking to patients, if, if they,

834
00:52:01,810 --> 00:52:06,400
if their need is only for
five or 10 milligrams of, um,

835
00:52:07,370 --> 00:52:12,360
of thc, it makes sense that they
are going to use a tincture.

836
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:15,960
Because a tincture, you can, you
can get it down to, you know,

837
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:20,160
number of drops out of the dropper
if you want, whereas with oil,

838
00:52:20,740 --> 00:52:21,240
you know,

839
00:52:21,240 --> 00:52:25,720
which is essentially the resin without
the ethanol that's in the tincture,

840
00:52:26,290 --> 00:52:30,000
um, you know, it, it's
kind of hard to, um,

841
00:52:30,490 --> 00:52:35,320
extract resin from a
plant that's high in THC

842
00:52:35,940 --> 00:52:40,400
and get your doses dose down
to five or 10 milligrams.

843
00:52:40,580 --> 00:52:43,320
You know, you might,
you might, um, you know,

844
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:47,280
at 0.05 milliliter, which
is a usually one of the,

845
00:52:47,300 --> 00:52:50,080
the smallest markings on a syringe,

846
00:52:50,500 --> 00:52:54,320
you might already be up to
like 17 milligrams of thc.

847
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:58,000
And so when it comes to thc, um,

848
00:52:58,420 --> 00:53:03,400
I'm usually recommending that new
patients to THC focus on tincture.

849
00:53:04,140 --> 00:53:08,000
But if you have a very significant
ailment in your, um, your,

850
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:13,420
your tolerance is very high because
you're taking a whole bunch of THC

851
00:53:13,420 --> 00:53:17,620
every day, well, you've probably
graduated up to cannabis oil. Now that,

852
00:53:17,620 --> 00:53:22,380
that's different if we're talking
about C and CBG, where, um,

853
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:26,800
you know, if we're gonna, if we're
gonna grow a plant that has cbg, we,

854
00:53:26,930 --> 00:53:30,560
we might use tincture so that we
can have, make it last longer.

855
00:53:30,780 --> 00:53:35,680
But in most cases you're, you'll
probably make an oil, um, because,

856
00:53:36,020 --> 00:53:40,600
and then just make caps with,
you know, 0.05 in it, um,

857
00:53:40,690 --> 00:53:45,440
because it's just more convenient
and you don't have to use,

858
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:46,040
keep the,

859
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:50,320
the ethanol in the tincture bottles
and you can pre-make a whole bunch of

860
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:54,240
capsules because the difference, you
know, whether or not you take five, 10,

861
00:53:54,250 --> 00:53:58,320
or 20 milligrams of cbg, um,

862
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:02,200
it won't end up in you potentially getting
intoxicated like it would if you were

863
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:06,000
taking thc. So, um, you know,

864
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:10,200
when I make my CBG caps, um, I'm
a little more casual about it.

865
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:11,600
When I make my THC caps,

866
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:15,880
I'm very exacting because I don't want
to accidentally over medicate myself.

867
00:54:16,660 --> 00:54:20,080
But if I'm making CBG
caps, well, you know,

868
00:54:20,470 --> 00:54:23,920
I might watch TV while I'm doing it
or something, right? Because, um,

869
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:27,400
if I squirt a little bit
extra in, um, it's, it's,

870
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:30,760
it's not really going to be,
um, you know, bad in any way.

871
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:33,880
I might be a little
wasteful, um, but it, but it,

872
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:37,760
but it's not gonna make me
super stoned. And so, um,

873
00:54:38,070 --> 00:54:43,040
this is one of the reasons why
tinctures are good, because, um,

874
00:54:43,990 --> 00:54:45,760
once you have,

875
00:54:46,590 --> 00:54:51,120
once you've got test results
and you know how much is in one,

876
00:54:52,050 --> 00:54:56,120
um, one dropper of your tincture, if,

877
00:54:56,170 --> 00:54:58,000
if you wanna take a little bit less,

878
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:00,480
less one day or a little
bit more another day,

879
00:55:00,620 --> 00:55:04,160
you can totally make those changes
on the fly. And it gives you,

880
00:55:04,460 --> 00:55:09,160
you as a patient a lot of control.
And, and that's what, you know,

881
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:13,480
that's what we want. Um, some days
you might wake up and you know,

882
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:17,200
you have to go to a doctor's appointment
and so you want to go a little bit more

883
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:20,080
conservative on how much
THC tincture that you take,

884
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:23,960
cuz you know that you're gonna have
to interact with people in an hour or

885
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:27,000
something or maybe drive
there, right? Um, but,

886
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:31,400
but on another day you may have slept
really badly and you are experiencing,

887
00:55:31,770 --> 00:55:36,120
um, your ailment significantly and you
don't have anywhere to go and you might

888
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:38,040
triple your dosage cuz
you're like, you know,

889
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:42,480
all I'm gonna be able to do today is,
um, sit on the couch and, you know,

890
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:45,040
try to, try to not be
miserable. Well, you know,

891
00:55:45,110 --> 00:55:47,400
that gives you that kind of flexibility.

892
00:55:47,650 --> 00:55:51,880
If you've already made all of your
oil into capsules, well, you know,

893
00:55:51,990 --> 00:55:54,160
unless you've made
different potency capsules,

894
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:58,240
all your capsules are gonna be the
same strength. And so that is a,

895
00:55:58,240 --> 00:56:00,280
a great reason that, um, you know,

896
00:56:00,550 --> 00:56:04,440
tincture can be a superior
choice for patients.

897
00:56:05,330 --> 00:56:09,640
So let's talk about edibles. So,
um, edibles have got a place,

898
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:14,400
but I gotta admit that I am not the
biggest fan of edibles except for specific

899
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:18,120
kinds of patients. And, um, first
I'll talk a little bit about, um,

900
00:56:18,180 --> 00:56:21,600
why I tend to recommend cannabis
oil and tincture over edibles,

901
00:56:21,660 --> 00:56:23,080
but then we'll also talk about,

902
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:26,280
about why edibles are the perfect
thing for particular patients.

903
00:56:26,290 --> 00:56:28,240
So first of all, um,

904
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:32,840
edibles are usually
non-homogenized and, um, or,

905
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:36,840
or poorly homogenized, right?
Um, which means either,

906
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:40,640
either at home or at a,
uh, at a licensed, um,

907
00:56:41,240 --> 00:56:46,240
cannabis bakery, they are
infusing an oil, a fat,

908
00:56:46,240 --> 00:56:49,680
a butter, um, with cannabis, either the,

909
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:54,080
the flour or an oil or some, or
an isolate, I guess. And, um,

910
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:55,760
and they're mixing that into the oil.

911
00:56:56,180 --> 00:57:00,960
And then you add that oil
to your recipe of whatever

912
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:04,240
you're making for, for the
sake of this discussion.

913
00:57:04,240 --> 00:57:07,040
Let's say that they're making
brownies since that's so traditional.

914
00:57:07,900 --> 00:57:12,600
And so you mix it into your brownies and
then you bake your brownies. And, and,

915
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:15,200
and, you know, most of us
who have been, you know,

916
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:16,640
using cannabis for a few decades,

917
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:21,760
we've all had the experience
where you make a batch of

918
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:26,760
brownies and the first
brownie you have is a, uh,

919
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:29,000
different strength than the fifth brownie,

920
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:31,920
which is a different strength
than the 10th brownie, right?

921
00:57:32,530 --> 00:57:37,400
Because it's kind of just luck
of the draw where how much oil

922
00:57:37,470 --> 00:57:40,200
ends up at different
parts of the brownie pan.

923
00:57:40,500 --> 00:57:44,840
And so you could eat one and it could,
you know, you, you, you're like, okay,

924
00:57:44,950 --> 00:57:49,720
I know that if I eat, you know, a half a
brownie, that's about the right amount,

925
00:57:50,020 --> 00:57:52,280
and then you go to eat
a different brownie,

926
00:57:52,420 --> 00:57:56,880
and that half a brownie actually has
got a whole lot more oil on it just

927
00:57:57,390 --> 00:58:01,520
from luck, you know, from randomness.
And now suddenly you're like, you know,

928
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:05,520
really high and you need to go
lay down, and you're like, damn.

929
00:58:06,210 --> 00:58:09,560
Um, I really thought that all those
brownies were gonna be the same strength.

930
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:14,000
And that is very, very hard
to do with baked goods, um,

931
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,080
especially in the home, right? Like,

932
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:20,880
like this primarily happens when people
share the cookies or whatever that they

933
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:25,000
make at their house. And, um, you
know, they're, they're moving along,

934
00:58:25,220 --> 00:58:29,880
and they, they just mix the
brownie mix or whatever, um,

935
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:32,000
until it gets the right consistency, well,

936
00:58:32,330 --> 00:58:36,720
it being the right
consistency may not be also

937
00:58:37,140 --> 00:58:38,040
homogenized.

938
00:58:38,220 --> 00:58:42,280
And suddenly now you're making brownies
that where each one you have is a

939
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:46,800
lottery ticket to being
too stoned. So, um, uh,

940
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:50,240
that is, that is one significant
issue with edibles now. Now,

941
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:55,240
certainly in the commercial markets
where they are increasingly using, um,

942
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:59,680
isolate and they have more control
over their processes, um, you know,

943
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:04,040
they're a lot of these 10
milligram, uh, gummies, for example,

944
00:59:04,330 --> 00:59:07,800
they're quite, you know,
homogenized. Um, you know,

945
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:12,760
unless any company that's got a
worthwhile lab and kitchen is doing

946
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:17,000
a pretty good job putting those
together, so there's not huge swings. Um,

947
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:20,240
but that's not true, man. You, you
get a, you get a company that's,

948
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:25,160
that's newer or have less,
less experienced employees, um,

949
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:28,760
or you know, what's happening as, you
know, some states go medical, right?

950
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:31,480
Because you get all these people who are
trying to go professional for the first

951
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:36,320
time, and they, they, they made, they
made edibles at home, right? For their,

952
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:38,680
and, and now they're
suddenly trying to scale up,

953
00:59:38,860 --> 00:59:41,840
but they haven't learned their
lessons and best practices yet.

954
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:46,120
And so suddenly you've got a new company
in a medical market that's putting out

955
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:51,280
edibles with wild swings,
um, with their potency. And,

956
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:54,280
you know, they'll get complaints and
they'll get best practices, and, you know,

957
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:57,680
eventually with time
they'll be more consistent.

958
00:59:58,380 --> 01:00:01,840
But if you're buying from them
at a medical shop, you know,

959
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:06,040
early on in your state's process, uh,
chances are very high that you're,

960
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:09,000
you're gonna get something that's
got a certain level of risk to it.

961
01:00:09,770 --> 01:00:12,760
So that's homogenization also, um,

962
01:00:13,020 --> 01:00:15,680
for many of the patients
that I talk to, um,

963
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:20,200
they're not in a position to be taking
on these extra sugars and flowers

964
01:00:20,500 --> 01:00:22,040
and artificial colors,

965
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:26,520
and sometimes even artificial
flavorings that edibles have. Um,

966
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:29,000
especially if you are, um, you know,

967
01:00:29,090 --> 01:00:32,880
an advanced patient and you need
edibles, you know, four times a day.

968
01:00:33,290 --> 01:00:36,480
Oh my gosh. Like, let's go back to
the brownie example. Like, like,

969
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:40,360
you shouldn't be having a brownie
four times a day or a cookie,

970
01:00:40,850 --> 01:00:45,120
or probably a gummy.
And, um, and, you know,

971
01:00:45,260 --> 01:00:48,360
you may decide for you that
that's okay, and that's cool.

972
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:50,680
Like we're all our own empowered patients,

973
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:54,560
but I'm talking about general best
practices and generally speaking,

974
01:00:54,900 --> 01:00:56,920
the edibles that are, are available,

975
01:00:57,270 --> 01:01:01,800
you're not gonna be wanting to eat them
four times a day or maybe even every

976
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:05,320
evening before you go to bed, right?
If you're taking it for insomnia.

977
01:01:05,930 --> 01:01:10,040
So you gotta be really
aware of, of the, you know,

978
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:14,160
what your cannabinoids are
encapsulated in, right? Are they,

979
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:18,520
are they surrounded by, you
know, sugars and GMO flowers? Um,

980
01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:20,920
certainly there are really healthy, um,

981
01:01:22,430 --> 01:01:26,790
whole plant resin edibles
out there. They exist,

982
01:01:27,250 --> 01:01:28,510
but, um, they,

983
01:01:28,510 --> 01:01:32,230
they almost always cost more because
they're made with quality food products

984
01:01:33,250 --> 01:01:37,590
and, um, and, you know, they
might not have 'em by you. Um,

985
01:01:39,550 --> 01:01:43,860
so the next thing we're gonna talk about
is the delayed effect due to digesting,

986
01:01:43,860 --> 01:01:45,660
right? So, um, in,

987
01:01:45,660 --> 01:01:48,540
in our first example when we were
talking about smoking at top,

988
01:01:48,540 --> 01:01:51,940
one of the great things about
smoking is that it comes on so fast.

989
01:01:51,940 --> 01:01:56,580
You've got all, you know, you, you're
peaking on your cannabinoids in your,

990
01:01:56,580 --> 01:02:00,820
in your bloodstream at, you know, 10 to
15 minutes in, um, that's super fast,

991
01:02:00,820 --> 01:02:05,260
right? Um, edibles are the
opposite, right? Because, uh,

992
01:02:05,260 --> 01:02:07,420
you're gonna chew it up and
then you're gonna swallow it,

993
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:11,380
and then it hits your gut, and
then it goes through your liver,

994
01:02:11,380 --> 01:02:15,100
and then now it's in your, um, blood.

995
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:18,660
And so it comes on, um, you know,

996
01:02:18,660 --> 01:02:23,200
most people say between
30 to 45 minutes, but for,

997
01:02:23,380 --> 01:02:28,200
but everybody should be
aware that sometimes you do
get a, a, a sneaker edible,

998
01:02:28,260 --> 01:02:32,120
and it takes a while for your body to
process it. Maybe, maybe you had a,

999
01:02:32,150 --> 01:02:33,160
a meal earlier,

1000
01:02:33,780 --> 01:02:38,760
and so the edible is actually behind
all the other food that's gotta go

1001
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:42,680
through you. And so, yeah, sometimes
it does take two hours, but you know,

1002
01:02:42,790 --> 01:02:45,000
that's, that's, that's,

1003
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:49,320
that's pretty rare compared
to like 30 to 45 minutes. Um,

1004
01:02:49,780 --> 01:02:52,520
and so if you need relief now,

1005
01:02:52,970 --> 01:02:56,800
waiting for 45 minutes may not
be the right solution for you.

1006
01:02:56,800 --> 01:03:01,080
So that's something you gotta weigh
for yourself and your own needs. Um,

1007
01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:04,720
also one thing that's
interesting about it is that, um,

1008
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:07,200
when THC goes through the liver,

1009
01:03:07,490 --> 01:03:12,360
it changes to 11 hydroxy
THC in the liver. Um,

1010
01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:14,520
which means that, you know,
even though we're, you know,

1011
01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:17,600
we're talking about cannabis and
even though we're talking about thc,

1012
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:21,840
it's really a different form
and it, um, it feels different.

1013
01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:26,760
It acts differently on the body.
And so this is probably, um,

1014
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:27,640
where the,

1015
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:32,320
the best benefit of edibles
comes from because there are

1016
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:37,280
certain patients, um, I would put at
the top of the, the list, um, uh, uh,

1017
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:42,160
pain patients, um, rheumatoid
arthritis patients, and,

1018
01:03:42,450 --> 01:03:47,320
um, uh, pretty much any of the
inflammation, uh, diseases,

1019
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:50,680
lots of, um, uh, immune compromised folks.

1020
01:03:51,270 --> 01:03:56,080
They find that the 11 hydroxy
THC experience that comes from

1021
01:03:56,080 --> 01:04:00,000
an edible is far superior to them,

1022
01:04:00,550 --> 01:04:05,520
then a Delta nine thc, um, preparation.

1023
01:04:06,140 --> 01:04:10,400
And, um, so you'll have to
find this out for yourself.

1024
01:04:10,890 --> 01:04:12,200
Um, you know,

1025
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:17,170
11 hydroxy THC is not going

1026
01:04:17,170 --> 01:04:20,450
to be the choice for most patients,

1027
01:04:21,030 --> 01:04:24,850
but for those that it
works better for, um,

1028
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:30,090
they become very serious about
their edible consumptions and making

1029
01:04:30,090 --> 01:04:34,650
sure that they are finding the edible
that they can make homogenize that is low

1030
01:04:34,650 --> 01:04:35,240
in sugar,

1031
01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:40,210
that they can eat the smallest amount
of edible and get the more profound

1032
01:04:40,410 --> 01:04:42,090
effect. Um, and it,

1033
01:04:42,090 --> 01:04:46,370
and it really does become something
that the patients are dedicated to. So,

1034
01:04:47,100 --> 01:04:49,830
um, so yeah,

1035
01:04:49,870 --> 01:04:54,510
sometimes 11 hydroxy THC is the, is the
way to go, and you'll just have to, I,

1036
01:04:54,510 --> 01:04:57,790
if you are that patient, you will, you
will come to that realization yourself.

1037
01:04:57,790 --> 01:05:02,750
I just wanna let you know that it's there.
So, um, so that's edibles, right? Um,

1038
01:05:02,820 --> 01:05:07,270
a a very common way to take thc, um,

1039
01:05:08,170 --> 01:05:12,790
but also probably not
necessarily the best for most

1040
01:05:12,790 --> 01:05:14,710
patients, if you're gonna
be taking it every day,

1041
01:05:14,710 --> 01:05:19,040
because you can take a
tincture or a cannabis oil, um,

1042
01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:23,400
that's not gonna have any of those extra
sugars and flowers and colors. Oh, my,

1043
01:05:24,330 --> 01:05:28,540
okay, the last one we're gonna talk about
is suppositories. And, uh, you know,

1044
01:05:28,780 --> 01:05:33,300
suppositories are not used all
that much, um, because usually, um,

1045
01:05:33,510 --> 01:05:34,220
um, you know,

1046
01:05:34,220 --> 01:05:38,380
taking your cannabinoids orally is
gonna be appropriate for just about

1047
01:05:38,380 --> 01:05:39,500
everybody. Um,

1048
01:05:39,500 --> 01:05:43,340
but I have certainly worked with
patients who came to me because they were

1049
01:05:43,340 --> 01:05:44,780
having problems, uh,

1050
01:05:44,780 --> 01:05:49,580
taking their cannabis oil orally
because they had something going on

1051
01:05:49,580 --> 01:05:54,500
that was, um, you know, chronic
and dastardly with their gut.

1052
01:05:55,390 --> 01:05:57,780
Um, say for example, that their,

1053
01:05:57,780 --> 01:06:01,220
their gut was dysregulated and
they were not creating, um,

1054
01:06:01,220 --> 01:06:05,820
digestion enzymes properly.
And so, um, you know,

1055
01:06:05,820 --> 01:06:10,180
putting anything into their gut
was a really bad experience.

1056
01:06:10,670 --> 01:06:14,380
Um, or potentially, um, they have
something going on in their gut,

1057
01:06:14,380 --> 01:06:19,300
so they can't take any fats
or oils into their gut. Well,

1058
01:06:19,300 --> 01:06:19,780
you know,

1059
01:06:19,780 --> 01:06:23,940
it's true that cannabinoids in cannabis
oil are really great for the gut,

1060
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:29,100
but if the vehicle is an oily
resin from the plant, um, you know,

1061
01:06:29,370 --> 01:06:33,580
some patients, they can't be taking
any oil into their gut, and so,

1062
01:06:33,580 --> 01:06:38,340
or else you know, it, it causes, um, you
know, lots of grief and suffering. So,

1063
01:06:38,340 --> 01:06:40,900
so that might be a case as well. Um,

1064
01:06:40,900 --> 01:06:44,660
I'm sure that there are other ones that
I haven't come across, right? Like,

1065
01:06:44,660 --> 01:06:49,140
you know, potential, uh, ulcers or
lacerations in the gut that, that,

1066
01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:53,340
you know, you might not want
to get oil in as well. Um,

1067
01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:57,660
but for some people, they,
they need to, uh, skip the gut.

1068
01:06:58,270 --> 01:07:01,660
Um, also there, there are some other, uh,

1069
01:07:02,370 --> 01:07:06,860
ailments that, that suppositories are
just a great idea for, for example,

1070
01:07:07,470 --> 01:07:10,660
um, for mittal cramping, right?
For menstrual cramping, um,

1071
01:07:10,660 --> 01:07:15,100
you can use a suppository either in
the rectum or in the vagina, and, um,

1072
01:07:15,100 --> 01:07:19,940
you will get more targeted
placement of the cannabinoids

1073
01:07:19,950 --> 01:07:22,740
to relieve your symptoms. Um,

1074
01:07:22,740 --> 01:07:26,180
if you are gonna put cannabis
oil in, um, a vagina,

1075
01:07:26,350 --> 01:07:29,380
be really careful about
the amount you use, um,

1076
01:07:29,380 --> 01:07:33,300
because you don't want to throw off
the pH and, and cause other issues.

1077
01:07:34,110 --> 01:07:38,060
Um, luckily we don't really have
the same kind of, uh, pH issues, uh,

1078
01:07:38,060 --> 01:07:42,460
for the rectum. Um, also
rectal cancer, right?

1079
01:07:42,460 --> 01:07:47,340
If you are, uh, you know, if you are
dealing with, uh, uh, tumors or, or,

1080
01:07:48,110 --> 01:07:52,940
uh, such, um, in the rectum, a
placing the cannabis oil right there,

1081
01:07:53,230 --> 01:07:57,140
um, um, is going to increase
the level of, you know,

1082
01:07:57,140 --> 01:08:01,220
targeting that you can do for it. And
then also if you've got, like, you know,

1083
01:08:01,220 --> 01:08:03,460
just general hip pains,
right? If you've got,

1084
01:08:03,460 --> 01:08:08,460
if you've got pains or discomfort in,
you know, in the area between, say,

1085
01:08:08,460 --> 01:08:12,180
your belly button and your thighs,
right? Like that whole area,

1086
01:08:12,570 --> 01:08:17,320
applying it to the rectum may be
a solution that works for you.

1087
01:08:17,340 --> 01:08:21,360
Now, granted, most people are going to
take it orally, and it can work great,

1088
01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:24,080
but, um, you know, this
is where you decide,

1089
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:29,080
because every patient works out their
own protocol in the end. Um, you, you,

1090
01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:33,080
you know, you, you learn these things
from people who have done it before you,

1091
01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:35,160
like, I have, but you know,

1092
01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:38,920
you do this for two weeks and now you
are gonna become the expert on your body.

1093
01:08:39,220 --> 01:08:41,280
And that's what we're,
that's what, you know,

1094
01:08:41,510 --> 01:08:46,160
good cannabis educators are gonna do,
is give you all of the options and say,

1095
01:08:46,160 --> 01:08:49,360
choose what works for you. Um,
instead of saying, all right,

1096
01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:52,880
I have the solution for all
patients because, um, you know,

1097
01:08:53,230 --> 01:08:56,840
each patient is unique,
just like growing, um,

1098
01:08:56,840 --> 01:09:01,160
different types of cannabis are
unique, you know, uh, and, uh,

1099
01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:04,280
and we need to, we need
to treat each person, um,

1100
01:09:05,030 --> 01:09:08,900
in a way that works the
best for them. So, um, if,

1101
01:09:08,900 --> 01:09:12,060
if you've decided that suppositories
are something that, um,

1102
01:09:12,060 --> 01:09:13,340
that might be appropriate for you,

1103
01:09:13,340 --> 01:09:17,660
there's lots of great kits out there
for making your own at home. Uh, on,

1104
01:09:17,660 --> 01:09:21,980
for example, eBay, um, uh, they,
they sell these little molds, um,

1105
01:09:21,980 --> 01:09:25,180
that mold them into like a, like a
little suppository, like a football,

1106
01:09:25,180 --> 01:09:29,660
you know. And, um, there's a bunch of
different recipes, uh, that you can, um,

1107
01:09:29,660 --> 01:09:33,740
that you can use. Some people use shea
butter, some people use coconut oil.

1108
01:09:33,740 --> 01:09:38,380
Some people use a combination
along with a little bit of, uh,

1109
01:09:38,380 --> 01:09:42,580
full extract cannabis
oil. And, um, you know,

1110
01:09:42,580 --> 01:09:45,820
people find what they like.

1111
01:09:46,090 --> 01:09:51,060
Some people won't use Shay at all
because they don't care for it. Uh,

1112
01:09:51,060 --> 01:09:55,660
some people will have different,
uh, percentages of each, right?

1113
01:09:56,190 --> 01:09:59,620
Um, and so what you do is, you,
you would, you would make up,

1114
01:09:59,620 --> 01:10:03,460
you'd fill up these little molds with
whatever you're gonna put in your

1115
01:10:03,580 --> 01:10:06,500
suppository, and then you put 'em in the
freezer, right? And then they get hard,

1116
01:10:06,500 --> 01:10:10,780
and then you pop 'em out, like ice
cubes out of an ice cube tray. And, um,

1117
01:10:10,780 --> 01:10:13,620
and then when, when it's time to dose,

1118
01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:17,220
you just like pop one of those
outta the freezer and you,

1119
01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:22,300
you put it where you're gonna put
it. And, um, um, you know, <laugh>,

1120
01:10:22,300 --> 01:10:25,580
it's, you might be cold for a moment,
but, uh, it doesn't last long.

1121
01:10:25,580 --> 01:10:29,660
It's not like they're that big. And, um,
and then it, it melts where you put it.

1122
01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:33,700
And so, um, that can be a really
great win for, um, a lot of folks.

1123
01:10:34,430 --> 01:10:38,940
Um, that said, it doesn't
have to be that much work.

1124
01:10:39,190 --> 01:10:39,540
Um,

1125
01:10:39,540 --> 01:10:44,460
when I was first learning about
suppositories and practicing with them so

1126
01:10:44,460 --> 01:10:48,420
that, um, I could, um, teach
it to patient groups, um,

1127
01:10:48,610 --> 01:10:52,500
I went through that whole process and I'm
like, oh my God, this is so much work.

1128
01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:56,300
And, um, you know, it's so like, kind
of oily and everything on my fingers.

1129
01:10:57,350 --> 01:10:59,980
Um, in the end, um, you know,

1130
01:11:00,530 --> 01:11:05,420
I realized that you can also
just take a boring cellulose

1131
01:11:05,440 --> 01:11:10,020
cap that, um, that you
would use for cannabis oil.

1132
01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:12,500
You know, up in the cannabis oil
section when we talked about that,

1133
01:11:13,220 --> 01:11:14,720
you can just put your,

1134
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:19,680
your cannabis oil in a cellulose cap
and put that in your rectum too. Ah,

1135
01:11:19,680 --> 01:11:24,120
I don't think I would do that vaginally.
Um, I haven't had that experience. Um,

1136
01:11:24,120 --> 01:11:28,800
but, but, um, but in your rectum
it works. And, um, you know, the,

1137
01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:33,440
the, the fluid or that's in
your rectum will break down the,

1138
01:11:33,440 --> 01:11:36,840
the cap. And, and then you will,
you'll, you'll get the oil through the,

1139
01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:41,200
the rectal rectum wall, and
that works. Um, you know,

1140
01:11:41,570 --> 01:11:43,440
um, but you know,

1141
01:11:43,440 --> 01:11:47,760
most people do recommend against it just
because it's, it's kind of in elegant.

1142
01:11:48,500 --> 01:11:50,920
But, um, but you know,
if you're, if you're,

1143
01:11:50,930 --> 01:11:55,520
if you're a serious cannabis patient and
you are already to the point that you

1144
01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:59,520
need to be taking suppositories,
you are probably, um,

1145
01:11:59,680 --> 01:12:04,040
doing what you need to do and don't
really care about elegance anyway. Um,

1146
01:12:04,570 --> 01:12:06,440
so by the time you're at that point,

1147
01:12:06,440 --> 01:12:09,840
you're doing what you need to do to not
suffer. But, you know, there is, there,

1148
01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:12,040
there are the great options cuz you know,

1149
01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:16,280
there is nothing as luxurious as a
shea butter and coconut oil suppository

1150
01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:21,320
<laugh>, but, but you know, if you
don't have the time for that, um, or,

1151
01:12:21,330 --> 01:12:25,080
or the money for the inputs,
um, putting it in a, uh,

1152
01:12:25,080 --> 01:12:29,560
a vegan cellulose cap works
as well. Um, alright, so that,

1153
01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:33,480
that was a great topic to
end this set on. Um, so, uh,

1154
01:12:33,480 --> 01:12:38,160
so my goal at this point in the
show was for you to have, um,

1155
01:12:38,190 --> 01:12:42,480
a really solid understanding
of the different methods,

1156
01:12:43,050 --> 01:12:45,920
um, of cannabis, uh, intake,

1157
01:12:46,140 --> 01:12:49,560
and a good picture for yourself
of the endocannabinoid system,

1158
01:12:49,660 --> 01:12:54,440
why we are taking cannabis at
all so on from this platform.

1159
01:12:54,970 --> 01:12:59,800
Um, we will now in the second
set, um, uh, go into, uh,

1160
01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:05,000
specific cannabinoids and understanding
the amount of each that we would

1161
01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:07,480
wanna take, um, to
reach different effects.

1162
01:13:08,410 --> 01:13:11,160
So we're gonna go ahead and take
a short break and be right back.

1163
01:13:11,220 --> 01:13:15,800
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You are listening to the hundredth episode
of Shaping Fire, and I am your host,

1258
01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:18,920
Shang Golos. During the first set,

1259
01:19:18,920 --> 01:19:22,200
we talked about the endocannabinoids
and made sure you had a decent

1260
01:19:22,200 --> 01:19:23,360
understanding of that,

1261
01:19:23,420 --> 01:19:27,240
and then we talked about the different
methods of getting cannabinoids into your

1262
01:19:27,240 --> 01:19:27,980
body.

1263
01:19:27,980 --> 01:19:32,440
And so you're starting to get an
idea of how your body functions

1264
01:19:32,620 --> 01:19:36,280
and the different ways that we
can add the cannabinoids, um,

1265
01:19:36,410 --> 01:19:40,120
to meet your particular needs,
um, as a cannabis patient.

1266
01:19:40,610 --> 01:19:44,840
So now on, um, set two, what
we're gonna talk about is, um,

1267
01:19:44,840 --> 01:19:46,960
the specific dosing, um,

1268
01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:51,800
for particular cannabinoids
that are commonly available

1269
01:19:51,800 --> 01:19:55,400
and that we have actually got some
decent research on. So, you know,

1270
01:19:55,400 --> 01:19:59,640
I'm not gonna go through
all of the cannabinoids that
exist because some of them

1271
01:19:59,650 --> 01:20:03,040
we barely know anything
about yet. Um, however, um,

1272
01:20:03,040 --> 01:20:04,800
we do know quite a bit about, uh,

1273
01:20:05,020 --> 01:20:09,800
THC and cbd B D and we
know a bit about cbg

1274
01:20:10,220 --> 01:20:13,800
and so we are going to cover those.
And the idea is that, you know,

1275
01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:18,520
with those three, you can get well on
your way to, uh, relieving your symptoms.

1276
01:20:19,170 --> 01:20:23,320
Um, and also once you understand how
to think about individual cannabinoids,

1277
01:20:23,530 --> 01:20:27,800
as new cannabinoids become popular and
the research starts to come out, um,

1278
01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:28,120
you'll,

1279
01:20:28,120 --> 01:20:32,600
you'll have a good idea of how to think
through bringing a new cannabinoid into,

1280
01:20:33,090 --> 01:20:36,720
um, you know, your health
protocol. So, you know,

1281
01:20:37,250 --> 01:20:42,160
we have to start with a conversation
about isolates and whole plant,

1282
01:20:42,410 --> 01:20:47,000
um, resin. Um, I would've originally,
and I would've been the old days,

1283
01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:51,880
say that whole plant resin versus
isolates because historically I have

1284
01:20:51,880 --> 01:20:54,680
not been a fan of isolates. But, um,

1285
01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:59,680
over time as the quality from some
distributors have increased and,

1286
01:20:59,970 --> 01:21:04,800
um, you know, some people don't have
access to certain novel cannabinoids.

1287
01:21:05,170 --> 01:21:08,440
Um, it does, there is a
place for isolates, uh,

1288
01:21:08,490 --> 01:21:13,040
in the health program of many
cannabis patients. And so, uh,

1289
01:21:13,040 --> 01:21:16,600
I really can't, um, justify
writing them off anymore. Um,

1290
01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:20,320
though it's very important to know what
their good uses are and where their

1291
01:21:20,320 --> 01:21:24,760
limitations are. So, so first of all,
let's, um, let's go back a little bit.

1292
01:21:24,760 --> 01:21:29,360
So historically people sought
whole plant cannabinoids

1293
01:21:29,390 --> 01:21:32,640
simply because, um, it was the
only thing that existed. I mean,

1294
01:21:32,660 --> 01:21:37,440
the people took the plant and they used
the resin as they got it off the plant,

1295
01:21:37,440 --> 01:21:40,160
either by smoking the plant or, or, uh,

1296
01:21:41,080 --> 01:21:45,840
mechanically removing the
trichomes and making hash, um, or,

1297
01:21:45,900 --> 01:21:50,600
you know, as, as, uh, solvents were
developed, um, mixing it with, uh,

1298
01:21:50,600 --> 01:21:53,800
ethanol alcohol. Um, so whole
plant was like the whole deal.

1299
01:21:53,980 --> 01:21:57,680
But as technology evolved, um, the
creation of isolates became possible.

1300
01:21:57,940 --> 01:22:01,800
And pharmaceutical companies were very
interested in isolating these compounds

1301
01:22:02,090 --> 01:22:05,800
so that they could study 'em for
potential future healing products in the

1302
01:22:05,800 --> 01:22:09,640
future. And, um, you know, if you're
not familiar with the term isolate,

1303
01:22:09,640 --> 01:22:14,600
the isolate just means a single
molecule of the cannabinoids.

1304
01:22:14,600 --> 01:22:15,050
So,

1305
01:22:15,050 --> 01:22:19,960
so one single molecule of thc
or one single molecule of cbd,

1306
01:22:20,130 --> 01:22:24,640
whereas in a whole plant resin,
you're getting a melan of,

1307
01:22:24,640 --> 01:22:29,240
of different, um, cannabinoids
and flavanoids and, you know,

1308
01:22:29,270 --> 01:22:33,120
fats and all these other things that,
that make for this particular synergy,

1309
01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:37,480
which works so well with the
human body. So, you know,

1310
01:22:37,480 --> 01:22:40,480
the first time I saw that
there was a really good, uh,

1311
01:22:40,480 --> 01:22:43,800
reason to consider CBD is,
was in the early days of cbd,

1312
01:22:44,030 --> 01:22:48,960
before CBD plants were available
just anywhere. Um, there was a time,

1313
01:22:48,960 --> 01:22:51,960
you know, not too long ago, let's see, um,

1314
01:22:52,320 --> 01:22:55,360
let's call it like seven
or eight years ago, um,

1315
01:22:55,360 --> 01:23:00,080
where people started wanting C
B D, but getting your hands on,

1316
01:23:00,330 --> 01:23:02,680
on plants that were bred with CBD was,

1317
01:23:02,680 --> 01:23:06,400
was pretty challenging unless you lived
in California, you know, when you were,

1318
01:23:06,400 --> 01:23:09,320
you were getting 'em from folks there
who were intentionally trying to spread

1319
01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:11,840
them out. And so, um,

1320
01:23:12,290 --> 01:23:17,120
we got to a point where people wanted
CBD and they especially wanted C b D in

1321
01:23:17,120 --> 01:23:18,960
their cannabis oil concentrate,

1322
01:23:19,100 --> 01:23:23,960
but it just wasn't to be had in any
kind of significant dosage. And so,

1323
01:23:24,290 --> 01:23:28,440
uh, companies started
filling that void by, uh,

1324
01:23:28,440 --> 01:23:33,360
extracting CBD single molecule isolate
from the cannabis plant and selling

1325
01:23:33,360 --> 01:23:38,280
that separately as a powder. And, you
know, like I said, I was pretty, uh,

1326
01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:43,080
pretty against that at the time as,
as being an overprocessed product. Um,

1327
01:23:43,380 --> 01:23:47,280
but after I got over myself
and realized that, you know,

1328
01:23:47,280 --> 01:23:50,880
you didn't have to take
CBD powder alone and,

1329
01:23:50,880 --> 01:23:55,200
and we would eventually find out
that CBD powder is helpful for some

1330
01:23:55,460 --> 01:23:56,440
applications,

1331
01:23:57,430 --> 01:24:02,320
that the important thing was people
should have the understanding

1332
01:24:02,320 --> 01:24:06,960
that they can spike their
regular THC dominant cannabis

1333
01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:11,400
oil with C B D to expand
the benefits. A great deal.

1334
01:24:11,500 --> 01:24:14,640
And I, uh, I remember
speaking first with Dr.

1335
01:24:14,680 --> 01:24:18,920
Sunil Agarwal at the, uh,
Washington Cannabis Conference.

1336
01:24:19,270 --> 01:24:23,720
I asked him while he was speaking
whether or not he thought that spiking

1337
01:24:23,940 --> 01:24:28,440
THC dominant cannabis
oil with C B D to make it

1338
01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:33,240
slightly more whole plant, right?
Since, since CBD used to be in, uh,

1339
01:24:33,240 --> 01:24:36,400
land race plants, but we
progressively bred out over the years,

1340
01:24:36,610 --> 01:24:41,200
so our cannabis plants were stronger
in thc. So, you know, a a land race,

1341
01:24:41,270 --> 01:24:45,760
a natural plant actually has a
lot more C b D in it. Then, um,

1342
01:24:46,270 --> 01:24:47,960
then the bread plants that,

1343
01:24:47,960 --> 01:24:52,680
that are are used for
more recreational, um, uh,

1344
01:24:52,680 --> 01:24:55,920
use nowadays. And he said,
yeah, he's like, he said,

1345
01:24:55,920 --> 01:25:00,240
that would make sense to me, uh, to him,
Dr. Sunil Agarwal. And he said that,

1346
01:25:00,240 --> 01:25:01,640
um, you know, until,

1347
01:25:01,800 --> 01:25:06,400
until more plants can be evolved
that have a significant amount of CBD

1348
01:25:06,610 --> 01:25:08,880
in them, and they can be
distributed across the country,

1349
01:25:09,490 --> 01:25:12,680
if you can get CBD
isolate, go ahead and, and,

1350
01:25:12,680 --> 01:25:17,240
and add that into your brew
when you are making your,

1351
01:25:17,450 --> 01:25:21,200
um, your THC dominant RSO or cannabis oil.

1352
01:25:21,620 --> 01:25:25,680
And I was caught off guard, but I
considered myself, um, you know,

1353
01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:28,840
smarter for it. And then,
um, on an episode with Dr.

1354
01:25:28,840 --> 01:25:32,480
Ethan Russo about five years ago, I asked
him the same question. He said, yeah,

1355
01:25:32,480 --> 01:25:37,160
yeah, you know, if if you, if you need
CBD and you can't find whole plant cbd,

1356
01:25:37,230 --> 01:25:40,560
well go ahead and, and take the
isolate and then spike your,

1357
01:25:41,070 --> 01:25:45,800
your cannabis oil because your THC
dominant canus oil will have the thc of

1358
01:25:45,800 --> 01:25:49,320
course. Plus it'll have a whole
bunch of those other, you know, um,

1359
01:25:49,320 --> 01:25:53,560
flavonoids and can flavin and, and, and
novel cannabinoids and trace amounts.

1360
01:25:53,560 --> 01:25:56,640
And then you're adding a, um, you know,

1361
01:25:56,650 --> 01:26:01,640
he dose of C B D from the
isolate. And while, um,

1362
01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:03,960
everyone agreed that, that when possible,

1363
01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:08,760
it's always better to just extract the
plant and take the plant as is, um,

1364
01:26:08,760 --> 01:26:11,400
you know, we don't live in a perfect
world. And sometimes you need to,

1365
01:26:11,400 --> 01:26:15,400
sometimes you need to spike your oil
with a cannabinoid you need. So, um,

1366
01:26:15,930 --> 01:26:19,280
so another thing that's, uh, interesting
to consider when comparing, um,

1367
01:26:19,280 --> 01:26:23,000
ice isolates and the whole plant is that
in the early days of cannabis research,

1368
01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:26,200
they were doing cannabis research
with the whole plant resin, right?

1369
01:26:26,200 --> 01:26:29,320
And so the early studies that
you can look up when you,

1370
01:26:29,320 --> 01:26:33,560
when you read what they were using and,
and how they actually performed it, um,

1371
01:26:33,560 --> 01:26:35,640
they were extracting a, uh,

1372
01:26:35,640 --> 01:26:40,200
a THC dominant resin and
experimenting with that. But as,

1373
01:26:40,410 --> 01:26:44,240
um, you know, creeping normalization
started and, and companies,

1374
01:26:44,240 --> 01:26:47,400
pharmaceutical companies started, um, uh,

1375
01:26:47,720 --> 01:26:50,560
considering what pharmaceutical products
they were gonna make out of it. Well,

1376
01:26:50,560 --> 01:26:54,480
suddenly the medical study
scientific studies started, uh,

1377
01:26:54,480 --> 01:26:56,920
focusing more on isolate.
Because, you know,

1378
01:26:56,920 --> 01:27:00,240
the two main advantages of
isolate are that number one,

1379
01:27:00,340 --> 01:27:02,560
you do isolate the molecule.

1380
01:27:03,060 --> 01:27:06,360
And so you can be sure, um,

1381
01:27:06,360 --> 01:27:10,920
for repeatability of results
because, um, you can,

1382
01:27:12,580 --> 01:27:17,400
you can make that isolate molecule
discreet from all the other

1383
01:27:17,550 --> 01:27:21,560
components that are usually in resin.
And then second, you can't, um,

1384
01:27:23,300 --> 01:27:24,840
you can't patent the plant.

1385
01:27:25,020 --> 01:27:29,920
But if they made a medicine and they
made it out of isolate, uh, well,

1386
01:27:29,920 --> 01:27:32,480
then they would be able to patent that
and call it a product and sell it,

1387
01:27:32,480 --> 01:27:36,000
which is how you get
products likes ofx. So, um,

1388
01:27:36,170 --> 01:27:39,960
so if you look at the, uh, if you
look at the scientific studies now,

1389
01:27:39,960 --> 01:27:44,560
they are much more
dominantly using isolate now,

1390
01:27:45,330 --> 01:27:48,440
um, to varying results. And, um, and,

1391
01:27:48,440 --> 01:27:52,120
and one thing we know is generally you
need to take a whole lot more isolate to

1392
01:27:52,120 --> 01:27:56,320
get the same kind of results that you
normally get with a whole plant resin.

1393
01:27:56,940 --> 01:28:00,080
And, uh, and that when
you take isolate, um, it,

1394
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:04,680
your efficacy goes up to a point
and then it plateaus. Whereas, um,

1395
01:28:04,680 --> 01:28:08,440
when you take whole plant because of
all the synergistic materials, um,

1396
01:28:09,320 --> 01:28:13,280
generally speaking, the more you take,
the more reaction you're gonna get.

1397
01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:15,680
It's worthwhile to note too that, uh,

1398
01:28:15,680 --> 01:28:19,720
whether or not you want to use isolates
or a whole plant often just depends on

1399
01:28:19,720 --> 01:28:21,160
how much money you've got. Um,

1400
01:28:21,160 --> 01:28:24,560
there is no question that isolate is
far more affordable than a whole plant

1401
01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:28,160
resin. Um, you know, your
mileage may vary with it, but if,

1402
01:28:28,160 --> 01:28:31,600
if it's what you can afford and it
happens to give you benefit, we'll then,

1403
01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:35,480
you know, you should definitely go for
it. Um, it's really interesting, um,

1404
01:28:35,480 --> 01:28:40,360
as the market for cannabis medicines
and other fund products evolve,

1405
01:28:40,580 --> 01:28:44,480
how odd the, the price ratios
work. So, for example, um,

1406
01:28:44,960 --> 01:28:49,760
whole plant resin is
very expensive compared

1407
01:28:49,850 --> 01:28:53,560
to isolate single
molecule. And so, you know,

1408
01:28:53,560 --> 01:28:57,080
you need to have enough money
to be able to afford the resin.

1409
01:28:57,180 --> 01:28:59,400
And when it comes to CBD resin,

1410
01:28:59,470 --> 01:29:04,040
most patients their dosages as
much as they can actually afford,

1411
01:29:04,040 --> 01:29:07,040
because they always want
more. And so in this case,

1412
01:29:07,260 --> 01:29:11,760
the the resin is very expensive and the
isolate is very inexpensive. However,

1413
01:29:11,850 --> 01:29:16,600
in contrast, if you are a cancer
patient and you are trying to use,

1414
01:29:17,050 --> 01:29:20,600
um, THC to straight up beat the cancer,

1415
01:29:20,980 --> 01:29:25,320
and you're taking a 90 day THC
protocol versus doing chemo,

1416
01:29:25,470 --> 01:29:30,000
well suddenly now a THC
cannabis oil is very

1417
01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:32,080
affordable, right? Because, you know,

1418
01:29:32,830 --> 01:29:36,320
spending 1500 to $2,000 for, um,

1419
01:29:36,480 --> 01:29:40,520
60 syringes to take over 90 days, um,

1420
01:29:40,810 --> 01:29:45,560
is very affordable versus a round of
chemo and all the associated costs

1421
01:29:45,560 --> 01:29:50,360
of that. So, you know, um, we can't
jump to any conclusions about this is,

1422
01:29:50,360 --> 01:29:53,640
you know, cannabis medicine
is so expensive, or cannabis
medicine is so cheap,

1423
01:29:53,640 --> 01:29:55,240
or don't use this, or don't,

1424
01:29:55,330 --> 01:30:00,160
we really need to think it through
for each patient what their

1425
01:30:00,320 --> 01:30:03,520
unique needs are and what their
financial capabilities are.

1426
01:30:03,520 --> 01:30:05,920
So yet another reason why, you know,

1427
01:30:05,920 --> 01:30:10,480
we really don't wanna just group cannabis
patients into big buckets and tell

1428
01:30:10,480 --> 01:30:14,520
them what's good for everybody, because,
because each patient is really unique.

1429
01:30:15,490 --> 01:30:19,550
All right? With that discussion of
whole plant resin versus isolates, um,

1430
01:30:19,550 --> 01:30:22,790
past us, um, let's go
ahead and talk about, um,

1431
01:30:22,790 --> 01:30:26,390
the first cannabinoid we wanna
talk about in detail. And that,

1432
01:30:26,390 --> 01:30:31,350
of course is the very popular thc.
And by that I mean delta nine thc,

1433
01:30:31,630 --> 01:30:35,990
tetra hydro cannabinol. And so
this is the one that, um, you know,

1434
01:30:36,020 --> 01:30:40,190
people have known about, um, forever.
And it's the one that if you take enough,

1435
01:30:40,440 --> 01:30:44,790
um, you can get intoxicated. Um,
they referring to that as a euphoric.

1436
01:30:45,320 --> 01:30:47,070
Um, but you don't have to take that much.

1437
01:30:47,070 --> 01:30:50,870
And for most of the things that patients
need, um, you do not need to take, uh,

1438
01:30:50,870 --> 01:30:54,030
enough that, that you will
necessarily get high. But,

1439
01:30:54,030 --> 01:30:56,070
but let's talk about in in detail.

1440
01:30:56,600 --> 01:31:01,150
So a THC strongly activates the CB
one receptors in the body and the

1441
01:31:01,150 --> 01:31:04,710
endocannabinoid system
triggering a feeling of euphoria.

1442
01:31:05,450 --> 01:31:09,070
And this activation also
increases the blood flow,

1443
01:31:09,070 --> 01:31:12,550
blood flow to the prefrontal
cortex in the front of your brain,

1444
01:31:12,670 --> 01:31:16,670
which is the area that controls your
ability to focus as well as your motor

1445
01:31:16,670 --> 01:31:21,630
skills and attention and memory and like
your, your ability to make decisions.

1446
01:31:22,050 --> 01:31:26,950
And then THC also interacts with CB
two receptors, uh, providing the,

1447
01:31:26,950 --> 01:31:30,270
the analgesic or pain
relieving effect, um,

1448
01:31:30,270 --> 01:31:33,710
also giving muscle
relaxation and antic effects,

1449
01:31:33,710 --> 01:31:36,310
which is like helping
with nausea and vomiting.

1450
01:31:36,310 --> 01:31:38,390
When we're thinking about THC dosing,

1451
01:31:38,390 --> 01:31:43,110
we have to be really aware that there
are two different timeframes for thc.

1452
01:31:43,270 --> 01:31:44,020
You've got,

1453
01:31:44,020 --> 01:31:48,870
what can THC help with me
today and what will THC

1454
01:31:48,870 --> 01:31:51,110
help me with over, over the time?

1455
01:31:51,640 --> 01:31:56,550
So the short term effects of THC are,
number one, it's an analgesic that,

1456
01:31:56,550 --> 01:32:00,520
uh, lessens and softens your
experience of the pain. Um,

1457
01:32:00,520 --> 01:32:04,160
it's a distracting and meaning that you
forget about your ailment and you can

1458
01:32:04,160 --> 01:32:06,120
focus on other things for
a while, like, you know,

1459
01:32:06,120 --> 01:32:10,800
working or caring for the kids or focusing
on a fun activity. And, um, you know,

1460
01:32:10,800 --> 01:32:12,240
when I say it's a distracting, it,

1461
01:32:12,370 --> 01:32:16,280
it kind of just makes you forget about
the thing that you are suffering from,

1462
01:32:16,280 --> 01:32:19,680
which is why it's especially
good for PTSD patients, right?

1463
01:32:19,910 --> 01:32:21,600
They can set aside their,

1464
01:32:21,600 --> 01:32:25,760
their memories of a trauma or of a
war zone or a of a bad experience,

1465
01:32:26,380 --> 01:32:30,840
and for a moment be distracted
by the use of the thc,

1466
01:32:30,840 --> 01:32:35,720
which allows them to do other things
that give their life, um, value. And so,

1467
01:32:35,720 --> 01:32:36,560
and, and honestly,

1468
01:32:36,560 --> 01:32:41,240
that's one of the I I'd additional
ways that THC is an analgesic,

1469
01:32:41,240 --> 01:32:41,600
cuz like,

1470
01:32:41,600 --> 01:32:45,320
not only does it soften your experience
of the pain and kind of turn down the

1471
01:32:45,320 --> 01:32:48,040
volume, but then it distracts
you from it as well.

1472
01:32:48,040 --> 01:32:52,080
And so THC actually helps with
pain in, in two different modes.

1473
01:32:52,470 --> 01:32:55,520
It's also an
anti-inflammatory. And so, um,

1474
01:32:55,520 --> 01:32:58,960
this is used a lot by people
who are experiencing, you know,

1475
01:32:58,960 --> 01:33:00,960
rheumatoid arthritis or, you know,

1476
01:33:00,960 --> 01:33:05,120
just regular arthritis or of swelling
or in inflammation of the joints.

1477
01:33:05,690 --> 01:33:09,080
Uh, so in the, in the short
term, once you take some thc,

1478
01:33:09,520 --> 01:33:13,080
those will go down temporarily as
part of the short term effects.

1479
01:33:13,080 --> 01:33:16,200
We'll talk about that more in the
longer term effects. Um, as mentioned,

1480
01:33:16,200 --> 01:33:19,520
it's also an amatic, um, meaning
that it decreases nausea.

1481
01:33:19,750 --> 01:33:24,240
It's a muscle relaxant, which, which
decreases spasticity. And, and,

1482
01:33:24,240 --> 01:33:27,600
and if you're unfamiliar
with that, that is the, the,

1483
01:33:27,600 --> 01:33:32,440
the involuntary clenching of your muscles
that make your body feel all tight

1484
01:33:32,440 --> 01:33:35,880
and stuff. And and we can apply this
to lots of different types of patients,

1485
01:33:35,880 --> 01:33:40,400
right? Um, Parkinson's patients,
uh, who, um, have got tremors,

1486
01:33:40,650 --> 01:33:44,840
uh, also Parkinson's patients who start
to get crampy and they, they start to,

1487
01:33:44,840 --> 01:33:46,920
um, hunch over, um,

1488
01:33:46,920 --> 01:33:51,000
people who have got pain pretty much
anywhere in their body because very often

1489
01:33:51,340 --> 01:33:55,960
the other side of their body starts
to clench in response to the side that

1490
01:33:55,960 --> 01:33:58,680
you're trying to, um, keep safe, right?

1491
01:33:58,680 --> 01:34:02,080
You're trying to keep one side of
your body, um, out of harm's way,

1492
01:34:02,080 --> 01:34:04,960
which means that your other side
of your body is doing more work.

1493
01:34:05,060 --> 01:34:09,040
And those muscles, uh, tend
to get tight and annoyed. Um,

1494
01:34:09,140 --> 01:34:12,520
and then also when you have
muscles that are relaxed,

1495
01:34:12,520 --> 01:34:16,760
it decreases your experience of stress.
I mean, so often with stress, we, again,

1496
01:34:16,760 --> 01:34:20,320
we clench our body and as
soon as we're like, ah,

1497
01:34:20,340 --> 01:34:23,960
and you can kind of like open up
and your muscles feel relaxed, um,

1498
01:34:23,960 --> 01:34:28,480
your anxiety will go down with
it and the thc, THC can, um,

1499
01:34:28,480 --> 01:34:30,480
help with that as well. And then finally,

1500
01:34:30,570 --> 01:34:33,040
it can help with sleep due to relaxation,

1501
01:34:33,040 --> 01:34:37,200
because if you're having a hard time
sleeping because you're stressed out and

1502
01:34:37,200 --> 01:34:39,200
tight and in your pain, um,

1503
01:34:39,200 --> 01:34:44,080
you add some THC and suddenly your muscles
are relaxed and your pain is turned

1504
01:34:44,080 --> 01:34:47,600
down and you're kind of
distracted from it, and, um,

1505
01:34:47,710 --> 01:34:52,360
some varieties of THC can cause
drowsiness and lethargy will boom,

1506
01:34:52,360 --> 01:34:55,280
there you go. It's gonna help
with, um, with your sleep now.

1507
01:34:55,860 --> 01:34:58,800
And that lethargy can be
used for other things too,

1508
01:34:58,800 --> 01:35:01,680
or combined with other things.
So if, if you were to get a,

1509
01:35:01,950 --> 01:35:06,640
a THC plant that also is high in
terpenes like Meine or Lin Lu,

1510
01:35:06,640 --> 01:35:09,120
which are both relaxing, um, you're,

1511
01:35:09,120 --> 01:35:13,360
you're really setting up a good
combination for somebody who has insomnia,

1512
01:35:13,360 --> 01:35:18,240
especially if they're insomnia
is compounded by discomfort when

1513
01:35:18,240 --> 01:35:21,640
they're trying to, um, go
to sleep. It's also, uh,

1514
01:35:21,640 --> 01:35:23,720
really good for people who are, uh,

1515
01:35:23,720 --> 01:35:27,640
who have just had surgery because so
many of us, after we've had surgery,

1516
01:35:27,640 --> 01:35:29,080
we're like, okay, I'm feeling better.

1517
01:35:29,080 --> 01:35:31,280
I wanna like start moving around
the house. And we're like, no,

1518
01:35:31,280 --> 01:35:33,920
you're supposed to stay in that
bed for a week and, and like,

1519
01:35:33,920 --> 01:35:37,400
I'm supposed to bring you food
and, and people start to get antsy.

1520
01:35:37,400 --> 01:35:42,040
But if you give them some, some
cannabis tincture, well, you know,

1521
01:35:42,040 --> 01:35:45,480
they can, they can enjoy that lethargy,

1522
01:35:45,750 --> 01:35:49,720
take more naps and like, you know,
be more easily entertained with like,

1523
01:35:49,720 --> 01:35:54,000
color book coloring books and
crosswords and word searches and stuff.

1524
01:35:54,000 --> 01:35:56,880
Stuff that just like keeps them
in bed so their body can heal.

1525
01:35:57,740 --> 01:36:00,840
And the last short term effect of
thc, I'm gonna hit it here, is, um,

1526
01:36:00,840 --> 01:36:03,240
as an appetite, uh,
stimulant. And, you know,

1527
01:36:03,890 --> 01:36:06,800
we can all joke about
getting the munchies and,

1528
01:36:06,800 --> 01:36:11,040
and sometimes it is very funny and
sometimes it's dangerous cuz we eat all of

1529
01:36:11,040 --> 01:36:15,560
our food. But, um, but for folks who
actually are having a difficulty eating,

1530
01:36:16,010 --> 01:36:19,400
um, perhaps because they are
going through, um, you know,

1531
01:36:19,470 --> 01:36:22,720
a cancer treatment or some other
kind of treatment that, um,

1532
01:36:23,080 --> 01:36:26,160
suppresses the appetite
or they're depressed or,

1533
01:36:26,250 --> 01:36:29,080
or anything that's gonna
decrease the appetite, um,

1534
01:36:29,080 --> 01:36:33,480
very often if you use cannabis while
suddenly, um, you're feeling snacky,

1535
01:36:33,810 --> 01:36:38,680
um, because THC interacts with the
hunger part of the brain and also,

1536
01:36:38,850 --> 01:36:42,840
uh, thc, um, makes food taste
better and smell better.

1537
01:36:42,980 --> 01:36:46,760
And so you're more likely to,
uh, to smell or, you know,

1538
01:36:46,760 --> 01:36:49,440
smell food being made in the other room
and start to salivate and you're like,

1539
01:36:49,440 --> 01:36:52,200
oh my gosh, I'm actually
hungry. And so, uh,

1540
01:36:52,200 --> 01:36:54,600
so those are the short
term effects of thc.

1541
01:36:54,600 --> 01:36:58,920
So there are additional benefits
for specific ailments, but this,

1542
01:36:58,920 --> 01:37:02,520
this list gives you a good understanding
of the most commonly used benefits of

1543
01:37:02,660 --> 01:37:05,840
thc. And, and one or more of these are,

1544
01:37:05,840 --> 01:37:09,440
are probably appropriate for you or the
patient that you're working with. So,

1545
01:37:09,650 --> 01:37:12,680
so those are all the things that
THC will do for you now, today,

1546
01:37:12,930 --> 01:37:16,160
as soon as you take it. So now,

1547
01:37:16,160 --> 01:37:21,080
when taken over time from once a
day to twice a day or more for a few

1548
01:37:21,080 --> 01:37:25,680
weeks, these daily benefits
start to stack up. Um,

1549
01:37:25,940 --> 01:37:29,520
one of those reasons is a decrease
in chronic inflammation, right? If,

1550
01:37:29,520 --> 01:37:34,160
if you're taking THC and in
that moment you're pushing back

1551
01:37:34,180 --> 01:37:38,800
the inflammation a little bit, if
you continue to do that over time,

1552
01:37:39,260 --> 01:37:42,600
you will be decreasing
your overall inflammation,

1553
01:37:42,740 --> 01:37:46,520
not just decreasing it a little
bit for, for the next four hours.

1554
01:37:47,020 --> 01:37:50,600
But if you decrease it now and then
you take THC again in four hours,

1555
01:37:50,600 --> 01:37:53,520
and then you take it again in four
hours, and then you do that tomorrow,

1556
01:37:54,060 --> 01:37:57,520
you can, um, decrease your, I guess,

1557
01:37:57,920 --> 01:38:00,880
standard inflammation
that your body has, uh,

1558
01:38:00,880 --> 01:38:05,720
which buys you some time to decrease
your discomfort while you are

1559
01:38:05,720 --> 01:38:09,360
trying to figure out what is
causing your inflammation and,

1560
01:38:09,360 --> 01:38:13,320
and decreasing those and
decrease those causes. Um,

1561
01:38:13,520 --> 01:38:18,360
the second long term THC benefit
that I will tell you is probably

1562
01:38:18,540 --> 01:38:22,240
the one that's the most important,
and that is, uh, apoptosis, um,

1563
01:38:22,460 --> 01:38:25,800
THC kills cancer cells. And, um,

1564
01:38:25,990 --> 01:38:29,720
it's very interesting to watch
it happen in a Petri dish.

1565
01:38:29,950 --> 01:38:34,760
A a THC molecule come
up against a cancer cell

1566
01:38:35,300 --> 01:38:38,080
and, and burst its side wall, um,

1567
01:38:38,240 --> 01:38:42,480
which I swear has gotta be the word
where the term apoptosis comes from.

1568
01:38:42,900 --> 01:38:47,560
And, um, and it kills the cancer cell.
And so, you know, if you just took,

1569
01:38:47,930 --> 01:38:52,760
um, THC today, um, you know, it would
kill some cancer cells and that's great.

1570
01:38:52,860 --> 01:38:57,120
And that's why a lot of people
use it as a, um, you know, some,

1571
01:38:57,120 --> 01:39:00,720
a preventative for cancer. Because if
there are any cancer cells in your body,

1572
01:39:01,100 --> 01:39:04,480
the THC will hopefully mop them
up while they're still small.

1573
01:39:04,620 --> 01:39:09,480
But if you are taking THC every
day, you're, you're, you're,

1574
01:39:10,360 --> 01:39:14,970
you're killing cancer cells now and then
you're killing more in four hours and

1575
01:39:14,970 --> 01:39:17,170
then more in four hours,
and then more in four hours,

1576
01:39:17,170 --> 01:39:18,970
and then you sleep and then
you do it again tomorrow.

1577
01:39:19,350 --> 01:39:24,130
And so as you start to stack these
days, um, next to each other, um,

1578
01:39:24,130 --> 01:39:28,890
suddenly you are decreasing the size of
tumors and other forms of cancer. And,

1579
01:39:28,890 --> 01:39:32,010
and we have seen
significant, um, you know,

1580
01:39:32,010 --> 01:39:36,370
both scientific and anecdotal evidence
that this works for a great many people

1581
01:39:36,460 --> 01:39:41,090
on a variety of cancers.
And so, um, you know, uh,

1582
01:39:41,090 --> 01:39:44,410
hopefully there will be another
episode like this where, um,

1583
01:39:44,410 --> 01:39:48,650
where I'll be doing it solo and I
can, I can lay out the, um, you know,

1584
01:39:48,650 --> 01:39:52,730
the entire application of, of the
cancer protocol. But, uh, for now,

1585
01:39:52,730 --> 01:39:56,730
just understand that it causes apoptosis
and it's a great thing to take as a

1586
01:39:56,730 --> 01:40:00,250
preventative. And finally, um, kind
of in the same category as the,

1587
01:40:00,250 --> 01:40:04,090
as the appetite stimulant, that's
a short term effect long term, um,

1588
01:40:04,090 --> 01:40:06,690
you can get weight gain
from the appetite. And,

1589
01:40:06,710 --> 01:40:11,610
and so for people who have got like a
wasting disease or they're just losing

1590
01:40:11,610 --> 01:40:15,530
weight long term because they're
depressed, well, you know, the, the,

1591
01:40:15,530 --> 01:40:18,690
the munchies that you have today
and tomorrow and the third day,

1592
01:40:18,690 --> 01:40:21,250
they start to add up and you
start putting weight on and,

1593
01:40:21,250 --> 01:40:25,570
and hopefully start feeling
better. So, okay, so, um,

1594
01:40:25,570 --> 01:40:29,370
now that we've kind of got an idea of
what the short term effects are and the

1595
01:40:29,370 --> 01:40:32,810
longer term effects of
taking, uh, THC generally, um,

1596
01:40:32,810 --> 01:40:37,650
let's start about talking about some
real specifics of, of the amounts, the,

1597
01:40:37,650 --> 01:40:41,890
the milligrams that we're talking
about when taking thc. So, um,

1598
01:40:41,890 --> 01:40:44,650
the first benchmark we
wanna look at is, um,

1599
01:40:44,840 --> 01:40:49,810
a generally a sub
perceptible dosage of 2.5

1600
01:40:50,210 --> 01:40:55,000
milligrams. Now at 2.5 milligrams, um,
you really shouldn't feel it at all.

1601
01:40:55,000 --> 01:40:59,600
It would be, it would be a surprise
if your patient felt it. Now, um,

1602
01:40:59,600 --> 01:41:03,640
they may have anxiety about it, and so
they may think that they're feeling it,

1603
01:41:03,650 --> 01:41:07,200
um, because placebo is a strong thing. Um,

1604
01:41:07,340 --> 01:41:11,600
but generally at 2.3, unless, unless
somebody is exceptionally sensitive,

1605
01:41:11,600 --> 01:41:14,120
they're not gonna feel it yet. So 2.5 is,

1606
01:41:14,530 --> 01:41:19,320
is generally pretty safe for most
people, um, who are either, um,

1607
01:41:19,430 --> 01:41:24,160
scared of the intoxication experience
or they've got control issues and they

1608
01:41:24,160 --> 01:41:27,200
don't like to feel like they are
in any way, um, out of control.

1609
01:41:27,650 --> 01:41:30,240
Or perhaps they had a really negative, um,

1610
01:41:30,780 --> 01:41:34,920
THC high when they were younger, and
they just never wanna feel that again.

1611
01:41:34,920 --> 01:41:39,240
And yet they need THC for some
reason. And so for these people,

1612
01:41:39,240 --> 01:41:43,920
we start them off at, uh, 2.5,
uh, milligrams, which honestly,

1613
01:41:44,540 --> 01:41:49,520
the most of us who use cannabis
regularly might scoff at 2.5.

1614
01:41:49,850 --> 01:41:54,760
If you're taking 2.5 milligrams of
thc three to four times a day every

1615
01:41:54,760 --> 01:41:57,040
three to four hours, and
you're doing that every day,

1616
01:41:57,340 --> 01:42:01,760
you are going to see tremendous
results with your arthritis and,

1617
01:42:01,780 --> 01:42:06,600
and other sorts of
inflammatory, um, issues, um,

1618
01:42:06,750 --> 01:42:11,560
that just need to be addressed
every day in a small amount and not

1619
01:42:11,560 --> 01:42:15,640
today in a large amount.
So, so don't rule out, um,

1620
01:42:15,640 --> 01:42:18,840
2.5 milligrams. Uh, it can
also be used to, you know,

1621
01:42:18,840 --> 01:42:22,620
create appetite and,
uh, to a lesser extent,

1622
01:42:22,620 --> 01:42:24,260
but it is true to, uh,

1623
01:42:24,260 --> 01:42:27,020
give you a little bit of muscle
relaxation for just like physical comfort.

1624
01:42:27,590 --> 01:42:31,820
So that, that would be our first, our
first benchmark is 2.5 milligrams, but,

1625
01:42:31,820 --> 01:42:36,380
but five milligrams is where most
people start to feel it in some way.

1626
01:42:36,910 --> 01:42:41,660
Um, it's often compared to one glass of
wine for most people, and this is, this,

1627
01:42:41,660 --> 01:42:46,060
five milligrams is a, is the baseline
dose for most cannabis patients.

1628
01:42:46,330 --> 01:42:49,060
Once patients get comfortable here, um,

1629
01:42:49,290 --> 01:42:53,700
many to most we'll move up to
10 milligrams if they also like

1630
01:42:53,940 --> 01:42:58,860
the feeling of it being a slight
euphoric, right? Because if,

1631
01:42:58,860 --> 01:43:01,740
if the job that you need is
getting done at five milligrams,

1632
01:43:01,740 --> 01:43:06,380
but if you take 10 milligrams
and it's also pleasurable, well,

1633
01:43:06,440 --> 01:43:10,940
you know, a lot of people go to that
10 milligram mark pretty quickly, um,

1634
01:43:10,940 --> 01:43:13,860
just because they're like, well, if my
medicine can make me feel good, like,

1635
01:43:13,860 --> 01:43:18,540
okay, let's do that. Um, you'll
find that, uh, the majority of, uh,

1636
01:43:18,740 --> 01:43:23,460
edibles that are sold in, um, medical
and licensed recreational shops,

1637
01:43:23,950 --> 01:43:28,740
um, are 10 milligrams because
it, it just seems to be a, um, a,

1638
01:43:28,740 --> 01:43:31,700
a uniform dose that can, um,

1639
01:43:31,730 --> 01:43:36,500
help a wide range of people.
And so they'll give you,
you know, whatever it is,

1640
01:43:36,670 --> 01:43:40,060
uh, 10 milligram gummies,
10 milligram cookies, um,

1641
01:43:40,060 --> 01:43:43,540
10 milligram gum drops, you know,
like whatever. Um, they'll, they'll,

1642
01:43:43,540 --> 01:43:45,860
they'll likely give you
10 of those to a package.

1643
01:43:45,860 --> 01:43:47,700
So there'll be 10 milligrams each,

1644
01:43:47,760 --> 01:43:50,700
and then they'll be in a package of a
hundred milligrams that you can just take

1645
01:43:51,320 --> 01:43:55,160
yourself. And so, um, at, at this,

1646
01:43:55,170 --> 01:43:59,720
at this five to 10 area,
um, you're gonna need to,

1647
01:43:59,990 --> 01:44:03,440
I mean, if you don't have an
experience with cannabis already, um,

1648
01:44:04,790 --> 01:44:08,520
starting with 10 milligrams
might surprise you. And so, um,

1649
01:44:08,520 --> 01:44:13,080
this is one of the reasons
why I recommended, um,
tincture earlier in the show,

1650
01:44:13,450 --> 01:44:18,320
because if, if you have zero experience
with cannabis, um, starting with 10, um,

1651
01:44:18,680 --> 01:44:23,040
milligrams, it might be great, but
then also it, it might not be for you.

1652
01:44:23,040 --> 01:44:25,800
There's, there, there is a
lot of variability in folks,

1653
01:44:26,140 --> 01:44:30,280
and even though 10 milligrams sounds
low to people who use cannabis all the

1654
01:44:30,280 --> 01:44:31,320
time, um,

1655
01:44:31,320 --> 01:44:35,800
to somebody who's particularly sensitive
and they've got a lot of CB one and CB

1656
01:44:35,800 --> 01:44:36,480
two receptors,

1657
01:44:36,480 --> 01:44:40,960
and so their body takes on a
lot of that THC really fast.

1658
01:44:41,310 --> 01:44:44,440
They could have an
uncomfortable, um, you know,

1659
01:44:44,560 --> 01:44:48,880
dysphoric experience and it happens
all the time. So whenever possible,

1660
01:44:48,880 --> 01:44:49,800
you know, um,

1661
01:44:49,810 --> 01:44:54,640
perhaps start with a tincture
and experiment at 2.5 and five

1662
01:44:54,640 --> 01:44:59,120
and 10 and kind of find out
what your appropriate dosage

1663
01:44:59,330 --> 01:45:03,800
is for what you're trying to take
care of. Um, and then, and then to,

1664
01:45:04,090 --> 01:45:08,680
to understand what the really high end
of the numbers look like. Um, let's,

1665
01:45:08,680 --> 01:45:11,720
let's, let's talk about
extreme examples. So, so,

1666
01:45:11,720 --> 01:45:15,360
so if we're talking about like five
or 10 milligrams for most folks,

1667
01:45:15,410 --> 01:45:18,680
if taken regularly, um, in contrast,

1668
01:45:18,680 --> 01:45:23,360
it's common for cancer patients seeking
to beat the cancer to take as much as

1669
01:45:23,360 --> 01:45:28,120
750 milligrams of THC of
whole plant oil extract

1670
01:45:28,120 --> 01:45:32,880
every day divided into three
servings of 250 milligrams.

1671
01:45:32,890 --> 01:45:33,330
So,

1672
01:45:33,330 --> 01:45:38,160
so we're comparing a potential
10 milligram THC serving to

1673
01:45:38,160 --> 01:45:41,360
a 250 milligrams serving
three times a day.

1674
01:45:41,360 --> 01:45:46,320
That's a whole bunch and actually a
devastating amount actually. And, um,

1675
01:45:46,320 --> 01:45:49,360
you know, you don't start at
that, at that dosage. You know,

1676
01:45:49,360 --> 01:45:53,120
part of the cannabis, uh, cancer
protocol is that you tight trade in.

1677
01:45:53,120 --> 01:45:55,760
So you're starting with, you
know, lower amounts and then over,

1678
01:45:55,760 --> 01:45:59,720
over the weeks you increase the amount
that you're taking with the hope that by

1679
01:45:59,720 --> 01:46:03,480
the time you're taking 250
milligrams at a time, um,

1680
01:46:03,480 --> 01:46:08,120
that you've got some amount of THC
and awareness of what it is to be high

1681
01:46:08,120 --> 01:46:11,400
and, and, you know, awareness
of what it means to be, um,

1682
01:46:11,470 --> 01:46:14,000
kind of uncontrollably high. Um,

1683
01:46:14,000 --> 01:46:18,440
there are certainly people who can
handle 250 milligrams, um, you know,

1684
01:46:18,440 --> 01:46:19,273
no sweat,

1685
01:46:19,300 --> 01:46:24,280
but the vast majority of people
will be absolutely blown out at

1686
01:46:24,280 --> 01:46:28,160
250 milligrams to the
point that, you know,

1687
01:46:28,160 --> 01:46:30,400
they could be questioning
their sanity, right? Which is,

1688
01:46:30,400 --> 01:46:35,360
which is why you don't just take
250 milligrams without knowing what

1689
01:46:35,360 --> 01:46:37,280
you're doing and in a cancer protocol,

1690
01:46:37,340 --> 01:46:42,040
why you titrate your your way
in so you build up over time.

1691
01:46:42,550 --> 01:46:45,520
It's also important to
understand that the, the,

1692
01:46:45,520 --> 01:46:50,400
the maximum dose of THC that is
necessary for a patient is really their

1693
01:46:50,400 --> 01:46:51,180
call.

1694
01:46:51,180 --> 01:46:56,160
And even though somebody might not be
taking high levels of THC intentionally to

1695
01:46:56,160 --> 01:46:57,640
cause apoptosis in cancer,

1696
01:46:57,960 --> 01:47:02,920
there are other very unique patients
who take extraordinary amounts

1697
01:47:03,050 --> 01:47:06,080
of, of thc. Um, you know, my,

1698
01:47:06,210 --> 01:47:10,840
my my most significant example is my
buddy Nick Ryden, um, back in Michigan.

1699
01:47:10,840 --> 01:47:14,400
He's a cannabis and dog breeder
who also has Lyme disease.

1700
01:47:14,400 --> 01:47:17,280
And when I first visited
him at his home, uh,

1701
01:47:17,280 --> 01:47:22,040
I was astonished to see him taking 400
or 500 milligrams of THC and cannabis

1702
01:47:22,040 --> 01:47:26,760
oil three to four times a day. And I was
just astonished as, as he's just like,

1703
01:47:26,820 --> 01:47:31,000
you know, squirting these
syringes into his mouth to, um,

1704
01:47:31,050 --> 01:47:35,520
to help quell his seizures and
ease his pain. And, and, and I was,

1705
01:47:35,520 --> 01:47:38,960
I was just astonished watching it,
and I was actually afraid for him,

1706
01:47:38,960 --> 01:47:42,800
but he's like, oh man, I do this every
day. This is, this is all right. And,

1707
01:47:43,020 --> 01:47:44,960
and so, you know, this is,

1708
01:47:44,960 --> 01:47:49,400
this is where patients start to really
have to grow their own cannabis because

1709
01:47:49,400 --> 01:47:54,120
being able to afford that much as a
patient on the open market is, is, um,

1710
01:47:54,120 --> 01:47:58,840
very unrealistic. And so why I
always, um, you know, stand up for,

1711
01:47:58,840 --> 01:48:02,680
for patients having the rights to grow
their own and be, um, self-sufficient.

1712
01:48:04,000 --> 01:48:06,310
So the next thing we're gonna
talk about is, um, you know,

1713
01:48:06,310 --> 01:48:08,070
once you're going over 10 milligrams,

1714
01:48:08,070 --> 01:48:12,390
you're gonna learn how your particular
body responds, um, from thc,

1715
01:48:12,390 --> 01:48:17,350
and you can move away from dosage
guidelines, um, like this one. Um,

1716
01:48:17,350 --> 01:48:21,470
because all it's gonna take is,
is a couple weeks of you, uh,

1717
01:48:21,470 --> 01:48:26,150
taking THC every day and, and you are
going to learn what works for you.

1718
01:48:26,450 --> 01:48:31,230
And so guides like this
are to help you understand

1719
01:48:31,230 --> 01:48:35,230
how to think about cannabis
dosing, but once you're doing it,

1720
01:48:35,970 --> 01:48:39,750
you become the expert for your body
because everybody's body really is

1721
01:48:39,750 --> 01:48:43,550
different. This is why I always
recommend that people keep a, uh,

1722
01:48:43,550 --> 01:48:47,270
a dosing journal of their
cannabis use because, um,

1723
01:48:47,270 --> 01:48:51,590
over time you might forget how much
you used to take for this or that, or,

1724
01:48:51,590 --> 01:48:56,510
or you, you might wanna look back and
see how you try titrate it in. Um, also,

1725
01:48:56,600 --> 01:48:56,950
if,

1726
01:48:56,950 --> 01:49:01,750
if you're gonna bother to tell
your doctor about your THC use as,

1727
01:49:01,750 --> 01:49:04,950
as part of your overall
health solution, um,

1728
01:49:04,950 --> 01:49:08,510
doctors like really dig it if you can
show them that you're taking, that you're,

1729
01:49:08,510 --> 01:49:11,870
you know, keeping a journal and
that you're tracking this stuff, um,

1730
01:49:11,890 --> 01:49:15,590
cuz so many doctors are already very
suspicious of cannabis medicine,

1731
01:49:15,610 --> 01:49:20,590
but if you can show that you're
doing it in a controlled air quotes

1732
01:49:20,590 --> 01:49:24,950
responsible way, um, you know,
they might be more likely to, to,

1733
01:49:25,170 --> 01:49:29,350
you know, play with you and,
and, and not give you, you know,

1734
01:49:29,350 --> 01:49:33,370
a hard time about using it. So, um,

1735
01:49:33,370 --> 01:49:38,090
there are two varieties of black swan
patients that we need to talk about

1736
01:49:38,090 --> 01:49:42,650
before we end this, um, this
discussion of, of THC specifically.

1737
01:49:43,300 --> 01:49:48,080
Um, the first one, um, we're gonna
talk about our rapid metabolizers. Um,

1738
01:49:48,080 --> 01:49:52,760
there is a variety of human that just
metabolizes everything super fast.

1739
01:49:53,460 --> 01:49:54,040
And, uh,

1740
01:49:54,040 --> 01:49:58,560
I have worked with these patients
and they metabolize THC so fast and,

1741
01:49:58,780 --> 01:50:03,480
and often mushrooms and Ls,
L S D and, um, you know,

1742
01:50:03,760 --> 01:50:04,680
anything you give them, they,

1743
01:50:04,680 --> 01:50:08,760
they metabolize it super
fast to get almost no effect.

1744
01:50:09,460 --> 01:50:13,280
And, um, we have to know
that these folks exist. I,

1745
01:50:13,280 --> 01:50:16,080
I worked with this one patient who, um,

1746
01:50:16,300 --> 01:50:21,160
had no experience with cannabis prior,
and then they decided that they,

1747
01:50:21,170 --> 01:50:25,760
um, you know, needed to take it for
their health. And so they started with,

1748
01:50:25,760 --> 01:50:26,720
you know, the, you know,

1749
01:50:26,720 --> 01:50:31,360
the 2.55 milligram 10 milligram
and like didn't feel anything,

1750
01:50:31,360 --> 01:50:34,880
and so then moved up to 40
and didn't feel anything and,

1751
01:50:35,020 --> 01:50:38,200
and they found that their, um, uh,

1752
01:50:38,200 --> 01:50:40,720
efficacious dose was actually, um,

1753
01:50:40,720 --> 01:50:44,280
80 milligrams of THC at a time. And,

1754
01:50:44,340 --> 01:50:48,400
and this patient was still like doing
stuff around the house and being

1755
01:50:48,400 --> 01:50:50,360
productive and it's, it's,

1756
01:50:50,360 --> 01:50:55,080
it's actually what they needed
to take care of their, um,

1757
01:50:55,080 --> 01:50:58,040
their ailment and function
like a normal human. But,

1758
01:50:58,040 --> 01:51:02,640
but if you told me that somebody who had
only been taking THC for two weeks was

1759
01:51:02,640 --> 01:51:06,920
already at 80 milligrams, I would fear
for them, you know, that they, that,

1760
01:51:07,200 --> 01:51:09,880
that they were taking so
much that, um, you know, if,

1761
01:51:09,880 --> 01:51:13,840
if they took that 80 milligram amount
that they would have a very bad day. Um,

1762
01:51:13,840 --> 01:51:14,520
and yet this,

1763
01:51:14,520 --> 01:51:18,080
this patient just like worked titrated
themselves up over the course of four or

1764
01:51:18,080 --> 01:51:21,440
five days, and now they sit
at 80 milligrams and you know,

1765
01:51:21,630 --> 01:51:24,840
that kind of rapid
metabolizer is very rare,

1766
01:51:25,180 --> 01:51:27,440
but if you are a caregiver, you know,

1767
01:51:27,600 --> 01:51:32,600
it's also important that you know that
it exists. And if you are a patient, um,

1768
01:51:32,740 --> 01:51:35,240
now you have keywords to, um,

1769
01:51:35,240 --> 01:51:39,640
to search so that you can show
your caregivers that yes, you, you,

1770
01:51:39,640 --> 01:51:42,920
you may require this much thc. Um,

1771
01:51:43,820 --> 01:51:48,040
the second variety of black swan is that
it's estimated that about one in 10,000

1772
01:51:48,040 --> 01:51:52,640
patients are wildly sensitive
to thc. Um, the point where,

1773
01:51:52,640 --> 01:51:55,880
you know, only a, a gram
or two, or excuse me,

1774
01:51:55,880 --> 01:51:58,720
a milligram or two is, uh,

1775
01:51:58,720 --> 01:52:03,240
going to give them a very bad experience.
And I've only seen this once. Um,

1776
01:52:03,570 --> 01:52:07,840
uh, a patient, uh, reached out to me
during their very bad experience. They,

1777
01:52:07,840 --> 01:52:09,280
they took a, um,

1778
01:52:09,670 --> 01:52:13,200
a five milligram tincture
that they got at the, uh,

1779
01:52:13,360 --> 01:52:17,080
licensed store and they
experienced dysphoria,

1780
01:52:17,420 --> 01:52:18,840
hallucinations and,

1781
01:52:18,840 --> 01:52:23,520
and like intense energy for 12
hours from such a small dose.

1782
01:52:24,180 --> 01:52:27,560
And honestly, I wouldn't have
believed it if I hadn't first,

1783
01:52:27,970 --> 01:52:29,680
if I hadn't seen it firsthand.

1784
01:52:29,680 --> 01:52:32,840
And I was familiar with that
product and knew that, um,

1785
01:52:32,840 --> 01:52:35,840
that analytics on it were,
were likely right and,

1786
01:52:35,840 --> 01:52:38,680
and that that dose is so small and,

1787
01:52:38,680 --> 01:52:43,360
and should have such an incredibly
small effect. But I, I saw it happen.

1788
01:52:43,360 --> 01:52:44,440
And so, um,

1789
01:52:44,450 --> 01:52:48,920
we do do need to be aware that on the
rare occasion you can give a very small

1790
01:52:48,920 --> 01:52:53,240
dose to a patient and they
will have an outside resized

1791
01:52:53,920 --> 01:52:58,080
response to it. And, um, they're
gonna need some support in, you know,

1792
01:52:58,080 --> 01:53:01,320
just trying to stay calm and
feel okay until it wears off,

1793
01:53:01,320 --> 01:53:04,600
like towards the end of
the day. So, um, you know,

1794
01:53:04,600 --> 01:53:08,760
I hope for you that you don't come
across either rapid metabolizers or,

1795
01:53:08,810 --> 01:53:13,200
or hypersensitive folks
to THC because, um, it,

1796
01:53:13,200 --> 01:53:17,800
it's always a real surprise and,
and as a caregiver, um, you know,

1797
01:53:17,800 --> 01:53:20,360
you feel so bad for 'em, you know,
because they're, they're, they're,

1798
01:53:20,360 --> 01:53:24,600
they're trying to do their best with
cannabis medicine and now they're like

1799
01:53:24,600 --> 01:53:28,840
blown out and they've had a
really bad experience and, um,

1800
01:53:29,100 --> 01:53:33,600
and now they, they now they really hate
cannabis medicine. So, um, so I, I,

1801
01:53:33,600 --> 01:53:37,840
I hope that, um, I hope that you aren't
one and I hope that you don't, you know,

1802
01:53:37,840 --> 01:53:41,990
come across them in your work. All
right, so let's move on to CBD Now,

1803
01:53:41,990 --> 01:53:46,310
you probably have got a pretty good
idea how to work with THC at this point,

1804
01:53:46,310 --> 01:53:51,030
hopefully. So, so cbd, um,
which stands for cannabidiol,

1805
01:53:51,280 --> 01:53:54,670
uh, it activates the CB
one and CB two receptors,

1806
01:53:55,090 --> 01:53:58,750
but to a much lesser
extent than THC does. Um,

1807
01:53:58,750 --> 01:54:03,070
it doesn't cause intoxication, but it's
is certainly psychoactive. You know,

1808
01:54:03,070 --> 01:54:07,070
a lot of people say, oh, it's not
psychoactive, but, um, while it,

1809
01:54:07,070 --> 01:54:11,110
it won't get you high like THC
will, um, it is definitely,

1810
01:54:11,110 --> 01:54:15,830
certainly psychoactive in the sense that
it can change perceptions by bettering

1811
01:54:15,830 --> 01:54:17,430
your mood. Um,

1812
01:54:17,430 --> 01:54:22,190
how CBD exerts its therapeutic impact
on a molecular level is still being

1813
01:54:22,190 --> 01:54:26,550
sorted out. Um, cannabidiol
is a pleo pleotropic drug,

1814
01:54:26,550 --> 01:54:28,270
which I don't usually have much,

1815
01:54:28,420 --> 01:54:32,630
much opportunity to say in that it
produces many effects through multiple

1816
01:54:33,030 --> 01:54:33,990
molecular pathways.

1817
01:54:34,290 --> 01:54:39,270
The scientific literature has identified
more than 65 molecular targets of

1818
01:54:39,270 --> 01:54:43,590
C B D, and the study of these
pathways has always only just begun.

1819
01:54:43,600 --> 01:54:48,470
So while we do talk about
C B D interacting somewhat

1820
01:54:48,470 --> 01:54:50,470
with the CB one and CB two receptors,

1821
01:54:51,000 --> 01:54:54,030
it isn't that they overdose
don't interact with receptors,

1822
01:54:54,030 --> 01:54:58,990
they interact with a lot of things,
and we're just now trying to,

1823
01:54:58,990 --> 01:55:03,710
you know, figure out what those, what
those other types of, of receptors, um,

1824
01:55:03,710 --> 01:55:04,990
might be, what those might look like.

1825
01:55:06,340 --> 01:55:10,960
CBD is a very active signaling molecule,
and it's one of the most useful,

1826
01:55:11,610 --> 01:55:15,600
um, cannabinoids for the
endocannabinoid system. Um,

1827
01:55:15,600 --> 01:55:20,120
because of this variety
of 65 plus targets. Um,

1828
01:55:20,120 --> 01:55:23,160
it does a lot, uh, to support
the endocannabinoid system.

1829
01:55:23,410 --> 01:55:27,480
It feels very much like a utility
player, like whatever's needed, you know,

1830
01:55:27,480 --> 01:55:30,400
come, you know, fill in, you know, uh,

1831
01:55:30,400 --> 01:55:35,000
phyto cannabinoid version of CBD
to replace endo cannabinoids.

1832
01:55:35,500 --> 01:55:40,080
And so it's, um, it's definitely
a workhorse. Um, similar to thc,

1833
01:55:40,080 --> 01:55:44,040
CBD has benefits now
and benefits later, uh,

1834
01:55:44,040 --> 01:55:47,080
for certain THC is more
of a, help me today,

1835
01:55:47,080 --> 01:55:51,680
cannabinoid and CBD is a bit more
of a help me tomorrow cannabinoid,

1836
01:55:52,050 --> 01:55:54,360
because for most of its applications,

1837
01:55:54,360 --> 01:55:57,560
it takes time to strengthen
the endocannabinoid system.

1838
01:55:58,260 --> 01:56:02,480
But it's true that CBD two has
some today benefits. So, so let's,

1839
01:56:02,480 --> 01:56:05,880
let's talk about short term and long
term benefits just like we did with thc.

1840
01:56:06,650 --> 01:56:10,800
So, uh, shorter term
benefits of cbd. Number one,

1841
01:56:10,800 --> 01:56:15,040
the most low hanging fruit, uh,
brain chemistry, mood, anxiety,

1842
01:56:15,220 --> 01:56:19,600
and stress. Um, this is of, of all the
things that I tell people, you know,

1843
01:56:19,600 --> 01:56:24,600
you need to give CBD some time to
do its job when it comes to mood,

1844
01:56:24,600 --> 01:56:28,520
anxiety and stress. This is something
that it can help you, um, you know,

1845
01:56:28,520 --> 01:56:33,120
like within an hour depending on dose
and your receptibility to it. Um,

1846
01:56:33,120 --> 01:56:33,960
then the reason is,

1847
01:56:33,960 --> 01:56:38,600
is because cannabidiol
stimulates the five h t one a

1848
01:56:39,280 --> 01:56:40,360
serotonin receptor.

1849
01:56:40,660 --> 01:56:45,560
And so you take it and it goes
and it activates it and, um,

1850
01:56:45,910 --> 01:56:50,760
your mood, your brain chemistry
will start to even out. Um,

1851
01:56:50,890 --> 01:56:54,400
as we talked at the top of the
show in the first set, the,

1852
01:56:54,400 --> 01:56:58,280
the main goal of the endocannabinoid
system is to balance,

1853
01:56:59,380 --> 01:57:01,170
um, the body's other systems.

1854
01:57:01,630 --> 01:57:04,970
And that is what's what's
happening in this effect if,

1855
01:57:04,970 --> 01:57:09,330
if your chemistry has swung one way or
another, causing you to be either be,

1856
01:57:09,330 --> 01:57:11,450
you know, depressed or anxious, um,

1857
01:57:11,750 --> 01:57:16,170
CBD will help bring you back to the
balance place where you can be your best.

1858
01:57:16,700 --> 01:57:21,450
Um, it is also an antiemetic
and an anti nausea like THC is.

1859
01:57:21,550 --> 01:57:25,450
And when you use them together, they
work together to be even more effective.

1860
01:57:26,760 --> 01:57:31,700
And then C b D binds to, uh, they're
called Trip V one receptors, uh,

1861
01:57:31,820 --> 01:57:36,660
T R P V one receptors, which
also function as ion channels.

1862
01:57:36,680 --> 01:57:41,140
And so these trip V one s are
known to mediate pain, um,

1863
01:57:41,360 --> 01:57:43,860
and inflammation and body temperature.

1864
01:57:43,860 --> 01:57:48,420
But the main thing that people are
looking to it for is to mediate pain.

1865
01:57:48,550 --> 01:57:51,100
So, um, CBD of course,

1866
01:57:51,100 --> 01:57:55,180
is handling the experience of pain
very differently than THC does.

1867
01:57:55,240 --> 01:57:59,620
And so when people put cannabis all in
one bucket on how it helps with pain,

1868
01:58:00,150 --> 01:58:03,620
um, you know that they don't really
understand the medicine very well because,

1869
01:58:03,950 --> 01:58:06,060
uh, thc, as we've already learned,

1870
01:58:06,270 --> 01:58:10,380
it helps by being a natural
analgesic and decreasing the, um,

1871
01:58:10,640 --> 01:58:15,460
the muscle contraction as well as,
uh, being a distraction, right?

1872
01:58:15,460 --> 01:58:19,500
Well, C B D in its own way, um, it, uh,

1873
01:58:19,860 --> 01:58:24,140
activates the trip V one, which
mediates the pain perception.

1874
01:58:24,140 --> 01:58:28,780
So it kind of just like turns down
the volume of your experience of it.

1875
01:58:28,950 --> 01:58:32,460
So when, again, when you have
CBD and THC together, um,

1876
01:58:32,460 --> 01:58:36,580
they work really well at
decreasing pain today.

1877
01:58:38,070 --> 01:58:42,240
So the longer term pen of benefits of CBD
are usually what people are going for.

1878
01:58:42,240 --> 01:58:46,200
Very often the short term benefits,
people are looking to, uh,

1879
01:58:46,500 --> 01:58:50,680
THC for help, and, and they
may have heard CBD helps, but,

1880
01:58:50,680 --> 01:58:53,080
but realistically, c's, um,

1881
01:58:53,630 --> 01:58:58,600
most effective role is to strengthen
the endocannabinoid system so

1882
01:58:58,600 --> 01:59:00,680
it can do its job, right?

1883
01:59:01,020 --> 01:59:05,040
And so the longer term benefits
of CBD would be number one,

1884
01:59:05,040 --> 01:59:09,920
first and foremost to strengthen
the endocannabinoid system so it

1885
01:59:09,920 --> 01:59:14,160
can do its job in rebalancing,
uh, the various body's systems.

1886
01:59:14,660 --> 01:59:16,400
And the body can heal itself.

1887
01:59:16,400 --> 01:59:20,480
It just needs some more
signaling molecules and cbd,

1888
01:59:20,570 --> 01:59:23,880
because it targets these, um, 65, uh,

1889
01:59:23,880 --> 01:59:26,440
different receptors. Um,

1890
01:59:26,690 --> 01:59:30,240
it has a little bit of help
for all the different systems.

1891
01:59:30,580 --> 01:59:35,120
And so it is a great thing to supplement
yourself with every day to strengthen

1892
01:59:35,120 --> 01:59:37,440
your body's ability to
take care of itself.

1893
01:59:38,790 --> 01:59:42,650
CBD also exerts an
anti-cancer effect as well,

1894
01:59:42,750 --> 01:59:46,650
and I won't get too much into
the mechanics of it, but,

1895
01:59:46,650 --> 01:59:51,410
but what it does is it, it, it has an
anti-proliferative effect, which means,

1896
01:59:51,820 --> 01:59:56,050
um, it slows down cancer's
ability to replicate itself.

1897
01:59:56,590 --> 02:00:01,210
And, uh, again, if you're taking
it every day over time, uh,

1898
02:00:01,210 --> 02:00:05,970
you would have, uh, the
CBD slowing the, uh,

1899
02:00:06,250 --> 02:00:08,290
increase in number of cancer cells,

1900
02:00:08,390 --> 02:00:12,050
and then you'd also have THC
coming in and bursting those cells.

1901
02:00:12,050 --> 02:00:15,090
So they're a very good
team in this regard. Um,

1902
02:00:15,090 --> 02:00:17,210
also another great thing is that, um,

1903
02:00:17,210 --> 02:00:21,370
CBD tends to kick off the
body's housekeeping mechanisms.

1904
02:00:21,550 --> 02:00:26,250
And so it is helping take
care of, of things that if,

1905
02:00:26,250 --> 02:00:29,890
if allowed to go neglected
over a long term, um,

1906
02:00:29,950 --> 02:00:34,530
can get especially worse.
So for example, um, uh,

1907
02:00:34,600 --> 02:00:37,170
when you take C B D, um,

1908
02:00:37,620 --> 02:00:40,530
it activates the P P R gamma,

1909
02:00:40,650 --> 02:00:45,210
which degrades the amyloid
beta plaque in the brain.

1910
02:00:45,550 --> 02:00:48,290
And when this plaque builds up,

1911
02:00:48,500 --> 02:00:51,610
it is linked to the development
of Alzheimer's disease.

1912
02:00:52,030 --> 02:00:56,010
And so when you are taking C B D as a

1913
02:00:56,110 --> 02:01:00,690
prophylactic, like daily, just so
things don't get bad or worse for you,

1914
02:01:01,070 --> 02:01:04,410
you are actually sting off a,

1915
02:01:04,720 --> 02:01:08,050
a certain amount of potential
of Alzheimer's in the future.

1916
02:01:08,530 --> 02:01:10,970
We've also seen patients that have, like,

1917
02:01:10,970 --> 02:01:15,970
they're starting to have dementia and
then they start with a pretty heavy daily

1918
02:01:16,070 --> 02:01:20,850
use of C B D and their
dementia tends to calm down.

1919
02:01:21,380 --> 02:01:25,170
Um, both probably because of this, uh,

1920
02:01:25,170 --> 02:01:28,050
p P ar gamma activation. Um,

1921
02:01:28,230 --> 02:01:33,210
but also because C B D causes
neurogenesis the creation of

1922
02:01:33,210 --> 02:01:38,010
new brain cells, new neurons,
especially the ones that are,

1923
02:01:38,060 --> 02:01:38,440
uh,

1924
02:01:38,440 --> 02:01:43,200
dopamine excreting and these
dopamine excreting neurons,

1925
02:01:43,490 --> 02:01:47,360
um, help stave off, um,
things like Parkinson's.

1926
02:01:47,380 --> 02:01:52,280
And so it really is helpful
to use C B D on a daily basis.

1927
02:01:53,170 --> 02:01:55,560
Um, you know, probably for everybody,

1928
02:01:55,840 --> 02:01:59,920
since we know that just about everybody
is suffering from endocannabinoid

1929
02:01:59,920 --> 02:02:04,080
deficiency, but especially
as you're getting older and

1930
02:02:06,170 --> 02:02:08,860
your body isn't working
as well as it used to,

1931
02:02:08,860 --> 02:02:12,060
and you're starting to forget things and
you're starting to be more aware of a

1932
02:02:12,060 --> 02:02:15,140
potential dementia or
Parkinson's in your future, like,

1933
02:02:15,140 --> 02:02:19,740
like you don't wanna go too
long without supplementing your

1934
02:02:19,740 --> 02:02:23,180
endocannabinoid system so it can do
the business of keeping you healthy.

1935
02:02:25,650 --> 02:02:28,510
Now, if you really wanna
dive into understanding cbd,

1936
02:02:28,570 --> 02:02:33,470
the only place I recommend is project
c b.org that I mentioned at the top

1937
02:02:33,470 --> 02:02:36,550
of this show. Um, founder
Martin Lee has put together a,

1938
02:02:36,550 --> 02:02:40,030
an exceptional cannabis
resource for patients,

1939
02:02:40,030 --> 02:02:42,950
and it's the only online
source that I fully trust.

1940
02:02:43,080 --> 02:02:45,630
So the articles are
written in layman's terms,

1941
02:02:45,850 --> 02:02:50,310
and then they also provi provide direct
links to the original scientific papers.

1942
02:02:50,960 --> 02:02:54,710
So, so don't forget project
c d, it is a, it is a great,

1943
02:02:54,710 --> 02:02:56,950
and as far as I'm concerned,
the only place to go online.

1944
02:02:57,800 --> 02:03:02,630
So there's a great deal of confusion
and debate about the proper dosing

1945
02:03:02,720 --> 02:03:06,550
of C B D. So when using whole plant,

1946
02:03:06,720 --> 02:03:09,670
we can offer c b milligram suggestions,

1947
02:03:09,670 --> 02:03:14,590
but the other cannabinoids in the
resin will always play an uncontrolled

1948
02:03:14,590 --> 02:03:19,510
role because we don't know how C
B D might interact with the canna

1949
02:03:19,510 --> 02:03:23,870
flavin that is also in the resin and
what they might be doing synergistically

1950
02:03:24,150 --> 02:03:29,110
together. So CBD in a whole resin
goes further than just a CBD

1951
02:03:29,400 --> 02:03:32,910
isolate because it's got
its partners in the resin,

1952
02:03:32,910 --> 02:03:34,950
all the other components of
the resin, they're with it.

1953
02:03:35,410 --> 02:03:39,870
And so because of that CBD whole resin
will almost, nearly always give you a,

1954
02:03:40,040 --> 02:03:40,950
um, a better

1955
02:03:42,980 --> 02:03:47,320
efficacious experience than
just isolate alone. But again,

1956
02:03:47,490 --> 02:03:52,400
if you don't have access to CBD
resin or you can't afford it

1957
02:03:52,400 --> 02:03:57,040
at the amount that you need, uh, by
all means give a high quality cbd,

1958
02:03:57,170 --> 02:04:01,870
isolate a try and see if that
will help you. All right.

1959
02:04:01,870 --> 02:04:04,670
So with that, let's talk to,
let's talk some specific numbers.

1960
02:04:05,160 --> 02:04:10,030
So looking back to 2015, when I was
first recommending CBD to patients,

1961
02:04:10,250 --> 02:04:10,750
you know,

1962
02:04:10,750 --> 02:04:15,470
doctors willing to take a position
at all said that about 10 milligrams

1963
02:04:15,470 --> 02:04:19,470
per day of whole plant cbd, um,

1964
02:04:19,650 --> 02:04:20,910
was good for,

1965
02:04:20,910 --> 02:04:24,590
as a supplement that would support
a healthy person to stay healthy.

1966
02:04:25,250 --> 02:04:29,830
And I think that the actuality
for healthy people is probably

1967
02:04:30,310 --> 02:04:32,790
twice that. So 10 milligrams twice a day,

1968
02:04:32,790 --> 02:04:36,910
once in the morning and once again
after lunch, um, not in the evening.

1969
02:04:36,960 --> 02:04:41,240
Cuz about 20% of people find
CBD stimulating and, um,

1970
02:04:41,240 --> 02:04:44,560
not stimulating in a way of like coffee
or caffeine or anything like that.

1971
02:04:44,560 --> 02:04:47,640
It more stimulating where,
um, when people take this cbd,

1972
02:04:47,640 --> 02:04:51,560
suddenly their body wants to
do that housekeeping stuff
like removing the plaque

1973
02:04:51,560 --> 02:04:56,320
on the synapses in the brain and,
uh, cleaning up the mucus off the,

1974
02:04:56,340 --> 02:04:59,600
the, the, um, Celia in the gut.

1975
02:05:00,020 --> 02:05:04,360
And so you don't really want
to kick all that stuff off,

1976
02:05:04,690 --> 02:05:09,280
um, as you are, um, you know, trying
to, trying to go to sleep. And so,

1977
02:05:09,280 --> 02:05:11,160
but you know, that's only
about 20% of patients.

1978
02:05:11,160 --> 02:05:15,800
But I don't recommend that
people take, uh, C B d uh,

1979
02:05:15,800 --> 02:05:18,880
in the evening unless they've
already had a trial, right?

1980
02:05:18,880 --> 02:05:21,520
And you don't wanna do your trial like
on a work night or a school night or

1981
02:05:21,520 --> 02:05:24,240
something like that. Try it on
a, try it on a Saturday. So,

1982
02:05:24,240 --> 02:05:28,400
so that you make sure that you're
not reactive to C B D and, uh,

1983
02:05:28,400 --> 02:05:33,080
making it more difficult to sleep. So
as soon as you have something wrong,

1984
02:05:33,310 --> 02:05:37,240
that number of 10 milligrams
twice a day will jump up.

1985
02:05:37,660 --> 02:05:42,560
And if you're actively working on an
issue like arthritic inflammation,

1986
02:05:43,080 --> 02:05:45,880
migraines, IBS, or
something like that, um,

1987
02:05:45,880 --> 02:05:50,400
you immediately are gonna wanna jump up
to more like 20 to 40 milligrams twice a

1988
02:05:50,400 --> 02:05:52,760
day. Um, and,

1989
02:05:52,760 --> 02:05:57,040
and that will work on your endocannabinoid
system at a rate that you're likely

1990
02:05:57,200 --> 02:05:59,120
to see something even maybe within a week.

1991
02:05:59,340 --> 02:06:04,120
But I always recommend a full
month of daily C B D as a trial

1992
02:06:04,250 --> 02:06:05,240
because it,

1993
02:06:05,240 --> 02:06:10,200
it does take your body
some time to rebuild the
endocannabinoid system enough to

1994
02:06:10,360 --> 02:06:14,600
probably meet your goals. And
we don't know how many, uh, uh,

1995
02:06:16,020 --> 02:06:20,430
c b receptors that you have in your
body. You might have more or less.

1996
02:06:20,430 --> 02:06:25,230
So it may take longer for your body
to get the reaction to the daily

1997
02:06:25,230 --> 02:06:29,950
supplementation of CBD that you're
looking for. And, you know, a month is,

1998
02:06:30,020 --> 02:06:33,430
it's not too long, but it
is enough, right? If, if,

1999
02:06:33,430 --> 02:06:37,750
if you've taken it for a month and you're
taking enough every day and you're not

2000
02:06:37,750 --> 02:06:40,070
really seeing results at
the end of the month, well,

2001
02:06:40,070 --> 02:06:43,070
you might as well put
your money elsewhere. Now,

2002
02:06:43,080 --> 02:06:46,990
if you're dealing with something big
and chronic like rheumatoid arthritis or

2003
02:06:46,990 --> 02:06:50,310
lupus, or multiple sclerosis
or just wicked joint pain,

2004
02:06:51,330 --> 02:06:56,030
the right answer for most people is
probably to take as much as you can

2005
02:06:56,030 --> 02:07:00,750
afford. And this is so frustrating to
patients when I'm talking to them because,

2006
02:07:00,880 --> 02:07:01,470
um, you know,

2007
02:07:01,470 --> 02:07:06,230
if they've got something serious and
whole plant is expensive and sometimes

2008
02:07:06,230 --> 02:07:11,140
hard to find, um, they're just all
like, well, how much do I need?

2009
02:07:11,140 --> 02:07:14,780
And, and I'm all like, well, you know,
it's expensive. How much can you afford?

2010
02:07:14,780 --> 02:07:17,580
And which is a very frustrating
answer, and I, and I understand that.

2011
02:07:18,390 --> 02:07:22,580
So I try to give them an idea of how
many milligrams of CBD they want,

2012
02:07:22,800 --> 02:07:26,460
and then they start doing the math and
they're like, oh man, you know, that's,

2013
02:07:26,460 --> 02:07:29,940
that's half of a cbd, uh, syringe,

2014
02:07:30,680 --> 02:07:33,980
and I need that, you know, twice a day.
So you're going through like one a day.

2015
02:07:33,980 --> 02:07:36,160
And depending where
you are in the country,

2016
02:07:36,160 --> 02:07:41,080
those CBD syringes can be anywhere
between 30 and 80 bucks each. And,

2017
02:07:41,080 --> 02:07:43,960
um, it's not like the old
days where, um, you know, in,

2018
02:07:43,960 --> 02:07:48,600
in many states medical systems when
you were buying from, from the grower,

2019
02:07:49,170 --> 02:07:53,520
um, there was always a discount to
people who had, uh, chronic illnesses,

2020
02:07:53,760 --> 02:07:56,640
especially people who,
um, were fighting cancer.

2021
02:07:56,640 --> 02:08:00,760
Because by the time you're fighting
cancer, most people are broke when they,

2022
02:08:00,760 --> 02:08:04,480
when they find their way
to cannabis. And so, um,

2023
02:08:04,480 --> 02:08:09,280
it's very challenging to
recommend CBD for people who

2024
02:08:09,280 --> 02:08:13,080
who need a lot of it. And, you know,
perhaps for some of those people,

2025
02:08:13,510 --> 02:08:17,040
a good solution will be
to purchase C B D, um,

2026
02:08:17,040 --> 02:08:20,920
whole plant oil in a syringe, and
then maybe even spike it with,

2027
02:08:20,920 --> 02:08:25,610
with isolate to get more
bang for your buck. Now, um,

2028
02:08:25,760 --> 02:08:29,450
I have a chronic disease and I
take 80 milligrams twice a day,

2029
02:08:29,950 --> 02:08:32,050
but I grow my own and I make my own oil.

2030
02:08:32,050 --> 02:08:36,770
So my costs are much lower than at
a licensed store. And this, again,

2031
02:08:36,770 --> 02:08:40,010
is why I'm a big proponent of
cannabis patient self-sufficiency.

2032
02:08:40,350 --> 02:08:44,850
And I really hope that our society
continues to increase our support of that.

2033
02:08:45,700 --> 02:08:50,410
So before I go on to the
Black Swan patients around

2034
02:08:50,410 --> 02:08:51,243
cbd,

2035
02:08:51,640 --> 02:08:56,530
I wanna kind of like wrap up the numbers
of dosing that I was suggesting into

2036
02:08:56,530 --> 02:08:59,890
a little nicer package because,
um, I can imagine that it,

2037
02:08:59,890 --> 02:09:02,650
it might feel a little, a
little vague at this point,

2038
02:09:02,650 --> 02:09:06,410
especially when I've all like, take
as much as you can afford, right? So,

2039
02:09:06,410 --> 02:09:10,530
so we essentially have got
three different levels of,

2040
02:09:10,740 --> 02:09:12,490
of dosing and,

2041
02:09:12,490 --> 02:09:17,050
and to find out where your dosing
may need to be for your particular

2042
02:09:17,050 --> 02:09:21,810
ailment, again, I send
you back to, um, the, uh,

2043
02:09:21,810 --> 02:09:25,410
project CBD site because
on project cbd.org,

2044
02:09:25,410 --> 02:09:29,970
you can find the actual studies and you
can find out how much CBD they're giving

2045
02:09:29,970 --> 02:09:32,250
the patients, what
their results were like,

2046
02:09:32,250 --> 02:09:37,170
and if they were using a whole plant
or an isolate, uh, preparation.

2047
02:09:37,470 --> 02:09:41,090
And because at this point
you understand that, um,

2048
02:09:41,270 --> 02:09:46,050
the whole plant tends to be more, more
effective and then isolate, you can,

2049
02:09:46,050 --> 02:09:50,450
you can start to kind of gauge
where your particular needs are,

2050
02:09:50,740 --> 02:09:54,330
uh, for where you wanna
start your, your dosing,

2051
02:09:54,390 --> 02:09:57,250
and then you can start
making your changes after,

2052
02:09:57,250 --> 02:10:01,450
after you see or don't
see, um, effects. So those,

2053
02:10:01,450 --> 02:10:03,850
those three levels are, um, if you're,

2054
02:10:03,850 --> 02:10:06,570
if you're generally healthy and
you wanna stay that way, um,

2055
02:10:06,570 --> 02:10:10,210
shoot for 10 milligrams of
CBD twice a day as a minimum,

2056
02:10:10,210 --> 02:10:12,490
if you can afford or get your
hands on more, well, that's,

2057
02:10:12,490 --> 02:10:15,530
that's all the better. But, um, but the,

2058
02:10:15,530 --> 02:10:19,090
the doctors that I have talked to
and interviewed say that, you know,

2059
02:10:19,090 --> 02:10:21,690
if you're not actually actively
trying to fix something,

2060
02:10:21,760 --> 02:10:25,410
taking 10 milligrams twice a day
for 20 milligrams a day is a,

2061
02:10:25,410 --> 02:10:28,810
is a great place to go.
Um, the next level up are,

2062
02:10:28,810 --> 02:10:33,010
if there is something actively you're
trying to work on, like you're, um,

2063
02:10:33,240 --> 02:10:35,240
like migraines, like ibs,

2064
02:10:35,240 --> 02:10:38,920
like arthritic inflammation
in the arms or, or in, or,

2065
02:10:38,920 --> 02:10:43,040
or in your knees or whatever, and that,
that you're really talking about, um,

2066
02:10:43,040 --> 02:10:46,760
like 40 milligrams twice a day
at that middle, middle place.

2067
02:10:47,140 --> 02:10:50,520
And then of course, there's this
high end where, you know, if,

2068
02:10:50,520 --> 02:10:54,400
if they're using 200
milligram doses in trials, um,

2069
02:10:55,060 --> 02:10:59,280
not a lot of people can afford
200 milligrams of whole plant CBD

2070
02:10:59,930 --> 02:11:04,520
or maybe even isolate cbd.
And so you just, you know,

2071
02:11:04,520 --> 02:11:06,120
you take as much as you can and,

2072
02:11:06,120 --> 02:11:10,890
and perhaps you can find yourself
a syringe of c whole plant

2073
02:11:10,890 --> 02:11:15,050
and then spike it with some isolate
and get creative. And so, um,

2074
02:11:15,250 --> 02:11:19,210
while that seems a bit on the vague
side, there's a lot of different things.

2075
02:11:19,210 --> 02:11:23,850
There's dozens of different ailments
that CBD can help with. And,

2076
02:11:24,100 --> 02:11:27,730
um, you know, this isn't a
show just about dosing cbd.

2077
02:11:28,000 --> 02:11:30,930
I wanna teach you how to
think about how to dose cbd,

2078
02:11:31,470 --> 02:11:34,890
and then you can continue with a
little bit more of your own research.

2079
02:11:35,310 --> 02:11:37,010
And this will provide a,

2080
02:11:37,160 --> 02:11:41,210
a context for you to put that new
information in as you are, um,

2081
02:11:41,210 --> 02:11:45,210
designing your own protocol.
All right, so OneNote on, uh,

2082
02:11:45,210 --> 02:11:47,210
black swan patients around cbd.

2083
02:11:47,460 --> 02:11:52,210
So I have worked with one immune
compromised patient who also had

2084
02:11:52,570 --> 02:11:53,610
rheumatoid arthritis,

2085
02:11:53,870 --> 02:11:58,570
and we become delirious and
experience missing time after simply

2086
02:11:58,570 --> 02:12:03,250
ingesting 10 milligrams of
C in a whole plant cannabis

2087
02:12:03,250 --> 02:12:06,430
oil. And, you know,

2088
02:12:06,430 --> 02:12:09,150
and it was really hard to
believe it unless I had seen it.

2089
02:12:09,150 --> 02:12:10,470
And I saw it a few times.

2090
02:12:10,850 --> 02:12:15,590
And we know that it wasn't
very high in THC in the

2091
02:12:15,590 --> 02:12:19,110
oil because it was hemp
extracted and lab tested.

2092
02:12:19,290 --> 02:12:23,110
And so we're certain that the THC
component was under one milligram,

2093
02:12:23,250 --> 02:12:27,430
and yet something in this
patient was definitely activated.

2094
02:12:27,970 --> 02:12:29,590
And on more than one occasion,

2095
02:12:29,590 --> 02:12:32,750
because the patient had a long
history of using this same oil,

2096
02:12:34,100 --> 02:12:38,670
suddenly when they took
the oil at this low amount

2097
02:12:39,120 --> 02:12:41,670
of just 10 milligrams, they were,

2098
02:12:41,670 --> 02:12:44,350
they were losing entire afternoons and,

2099
02:12:44,410 --> 02:12:48,830
and were kind of delirious and tired
and had to sleep the rest of the day.

2100
02:12:49,920 --> 02:12:54,110
We still don't know what that is.
And when I talked to, you know,

2101
02:12:54,590 --> 02:12:57,430
canna apathic scientists, um, they,

2102
02:12:57,430 --> 02:12:59,470
they're skeptical and they
don't wanna believe me,

2103
02:12:59,470 --> 02:13:03,430
but I've been doing this a long time now
and I know this stuff to rule out and

2104
02:13:03,430 --> 02:13:05,910
so I see it. So, um,

2105
02:13:05,910 --> 02:13:10,070
I don't really tell you this to caution
you against CBD cuz CBD is so safe.

2106
02:13:10,600 --> 02:13:12,990
Um, but you know,

2107
02:13:12,990 --> 02:13:16,470
this is an extraordinarily rare thing
and I bring it up in case you are a

2108
02:13:16,470 --> 02:13:19,950
caregiver and you come across
a patient like this. Um, know,

2109
02:13:19,950 --> 02:13:23,550
just know that it's possible humans
are incredibly varied and knowing that

2110
02:13:23,550 --> 02:13:24,470
something is possible,

2111
02:13:24,470 --> 02:13:29,190
even if rare can help us guide
patients should they have this sort of

2112
02:13:29,190 --> 02:13:33,540
rare reaction. So before
we close this CBD section,

2113
02:13:33,540 --> 02:13:38,020
it's worthwhile to
mention that C B D A, um,

2114
02:13:38,260 --> 02:13:43,100
which is the acid and raw form
unheated form of CBD that is

2115
02:13:43,100 --> 02:13:44,420
present in the cannabis plant,

2116
02:13:44,850 --> 02:13:48,780
also has a strong affinity for
the five HT one A receptor,

2117
02:13:48,970 --> 02:13:50,820
even more so than cbd.

2118
02:13:51,760 --> 02:13:56,260
And preclinical studies indicate
that CBD A is also a potent

2119
02:13:56,290 --> 02:14:00,460
antiemetic nausea
stronger than CBD or thc,

2120
02:14:00,460 --> 02:14:02,740
which also have the antinausea properties.

2121
02:14:02,880 --> 02:14:06,420
And the reason why I dropped this
in here is just to kind of, uh,

2122
02:14:06,420 --> 02:14:10,700
ignite the idea in you
that while most of the

2123
02:14:10,700 --> 02:14:14,540
preparations of medicine that
we have are not the acid forms,

2124
02:14:14,550 --> 02:14:17,980
so most of the time what is
available to us is C B D,

2125
02:14:18,320 --> 02:14:23,020
not C B C B D A. And by
the time we take thc,

2126
02:14:23,020 --> 02:14:27,940
it's THC and not thc A we need to
remember that the acid forms that have

2127
02:14:27,940 --> 02:14:31,700
not be been decarboxylated or heated, um,

2128
02:14:31,730 --> 02:14:34,220
they have their own, uh,

2129
02:14:34,220 --> 02:14:38,020
sets of ways that they help the
endocannabinoid system. And,

2130
02:14:38,020 --> 02:14:42,940
and don't be shy about taking your
cannabinoids raw right from the plant.

2131
02:14:43,390 --> 02:14:47,980
Um, say for example, by making hash
and just eating it instead of, uh,

2132
02:14:47,980 --> 02:14:52,980
using some kind of preparation that,
uh, you have to heat it either by,

2133
02:14:53,830 --> 02:14:58,780
uh, making an extracted cannabis oil,
which you have to heat to remove the,

2134
02:14:58,910 --> 02:15:02,660
um, the ethanol, um, or, or, you know,

2135
02:15:02,660 --> 02:15:07,620
traditionally smoking thc
where the burning of it is the

2136
02:15:07,640 --> 02:15:10,620
decarboxylation process. So it's just in,

2137
02:15:10,620 --> 02:15:13,820
it's just valuable to understand that
these acid forms of these cannabinoids

2138
02:15:13,820 --> 02:15:17,940
often have entirely different useful
properties than their non-acid forms.

2139
02:15:18,660 --> 02:15:23,350
Okay, so the third one we're
gonna cover, um, in this set is,

2140
02:15:23,350 --> 02:15:25,870
is cbg. And, and we're
gonna cover this, um,

2141
02:15:25,880 --> 02:15:30,870
in a shorter amount of time than THC
and C B D cuz I would say that the vast

2142
02:15:31,270 --> 02:15:36,030
majority of people who are here are
looking for dosing recommendations for THC

2143
02:15:36,030 --> 02:15:36,530
and cbd,

2144
02:15:36,530 --> 02:15:39,710
cuz those are the ones that have been
studied the most and the ones that we can

2145
02:15:39,710 --> 02:15:44,390
get our hands on the most. But CBG is
now becoming increasingly available,

2146
02:15:44,680 --> 02:15:48,830
uh, ever since some C B G dominant, um,

2147
02:15:49,270 --> 02:15:53,510
cannabis plants, um, found their
way into the market, you know,

2148
02:15:53,510 --> 02:15:56,750
about five years ago now.
So, so now there are, uh,

2149
02:15:56,750 --> 02:16:01,430
many hemp farms that are growing
cbg, CBG dominant plants.

2150
02:16:01,730 --> 02:16:06,590
And so CBG is now available
in isolate form and, um,

2151
02:16:06,930 --> 02:16:10,430
and as a whole plant resin
too. Uh, I must admit,

2152
02:16:10,430 --> 02:16:15,190
I don't see CBG resin
available just anywhere. And,

2153
02:16:15,200 --> 02:16:15,790
um, you know,

2154
02:16:15,790 --> 02:16:19,350
I have to grow my own plants and make
it myself if I want it because, um,

2155
02:16:19,350 --> 02:16:22,550
it's not, it's not available in
the licensed recreational, um,

2156
02:16:22,620 --> 02:16:23,990
system where I live.

2157
02:16:24,600 --> 02:16:29,440
So one of the newest cannabinoids
to get attention and one with

2158
02:16:29,440 --> 02:16:33,640
very specific NU uses is CBG cannabigerol.

2159
02:16:34,370 --> 02:16:38,720
So I'm going to delineate two
specific uses for CBG and then,

2160
02:16:38,720 --> 02:16:40,560
and then give you the
dosing regimen for it.

2161
02:16:40,970 --> 02:16:45,920
So we found when we did our
research here on Vaon Island

2162
02:16:45,920 --> 02:16:50,680
three years ago when we gave CBG to
a round of patients and then did a

2163
02:16:50,680 --> 02:16:54,560
questionnaire afterwards
that, um, the number one, um,

2164
02:16:55,530 --> 02:16:59,360
uh, the number one thing
that people responded to was
that it helped neuropathic

2165
02:16:59,470 --> 02:17:00,303
pain.

2166
02:17:00,410 --> 02:17:05,200
So that's pain from some kind of
nervous system damage or dysregulation

2167
02:17:05,200 --> 02:17:05,520
like,

2168
02:17:05,520 --> 02:17:10,360
like a stabbing pain that seems
without cause or cold or numb

2169
02:17:10,360 --> 02:17:15,200
fingers or limbs, that, that feeling
of pins and needles, for example. Um,

2170
02:17:15,530 --> 02:17:19,720
um, and, and especially on
your, um, um, periphery, right?

2171
02:17:19,720 --> 02:17:24,400
The external parts of your
body. And so when people, uh,

2172
02:17:24,470 --> 02:17:29,080
take cbg, um, it
decreases that experience.

2173
02:17:29,260 --> 02:17:33,560
And, um, it is true. We don't, we don't
know exactly know why yet, but, uh,

2174
02:17:33,560 --> 02:17:36,120
we do know that it happens
and it, and it happens, um,

2175
02:17:36,790 --> 02:17:39,800
pretty consistently across
the board. Some of the,

2176
02:17:39,800 --> 02:17:42,760
some of the things that cannabis help
with, we have to very much say, oh,

2177
02:17:42,760 --> 02:17:44,760
your mileage may vary. But, um,

2178
02:17:44,800 --> 02:17:49,240
these two attributes in CBG seems to
be pretty reliable across the board.

2179
02:17:49,620 --> 02:17:53,440
And one of the great things about CBG is
that, um, it doesn't have intoxication.

2180
02:17:53,570 --> 02:17:56,520
So it, it, it, unless you are,

2181
02:17:56,540 --> 02:18:01,440
are taking a CBG from a
plant that it's married to

2182
02:18:01,860 --> 02:18:03,440
THC in the preparation, like,

2183
02:18:03,440 --> 02:18:08,280
like you don't grow a CBG
hemp plant. Instead, you,

2184
02:18:08,280 --> 02:18:12,880
you grow a one to one plant
that's one part CBG and one part

2185
02:18:13,180 --> 02:18:17,680
thc. So long as you're, you're not
intentionally adding the THC component,

2186
02:18:18,020 --> 02:18:19,720
CBG on its own won't get you high,

2187
02:18:19,720 --> 02:18:24,000
which makes it very reliable
for lots of people who have

2188
02:18:24,270 --> 02:18:28,360
pain, but they don't want to
feel any level of intoxication.

2189
02:18:28,360 --> 02:18:31,200
And CBG is incredibly reliable for this.

2190
02:18:32,360 --> 02:18:37,020
The second great use for CBG
is, uh, actually anxiety. Um,

2191
02:18:37,020 --> 02:18:40,620
I was really surprised when we got back
the questionnaires and, and there were,

2192
02:18:40,620 --> 02:18:44,620
there were multiple different flavors
of anxiety that people found great help

2193
02:18:44,620 --> 02:18:47,380
with. So, um, the first
one was social anxiety.

2194
02:18:47,380 --> 02:18:50,700
People said that it kind of like calmed
them down and it allowed them to be

2195
02:18:50,700 --> 02:18:55,460
social and interact with other people.
Uh, we also heard from people that, um,

2196
02:18:55,550 --> 02:19:00,060
it, uh, softened performance
anxiety, so public speaking or,

2197
02:19:00,270 --> 02:19:03,900
um, at the beginning of covid
when everyone was getting
on Zoom meetings for the

2198
02:19:03,900 --> 02:19:08,220
first time, you know, zoom meetings
are very socially awkward situations,

2199
02:19:08,220 --> 02:19:13,100
and a lot of people found
it very uncomfortable to be
doing these Zoom meetings.

2200
02:19:13,480 --> 02:19:18,300
And CBG helped people like cool out
so that they could, um, tolerate the,

2201
02:19:18,300 --> 02:19:23,100
the awkwardness stay calm and
engaged and, and be productive, uh,

2202
02:19:23,100 --> 02:19:27,320
in their Zoom meetings. And then
the third one was a real surprise.

2203
02:19:27,510 --> 02:19:30,960
Many patients would explain
it to me by, by putting their,

2204
02:19:30,960 --> 02:19:32,360
their hands on their hips and,

2205
02:19:32,360 --> 02:19:35,920
and thrusting their chest out like a
superhero would. And, and they'd say like,

2206
02:19:35,920 --> 02:19:40,440
it gives me the confidence of a superhero.
And after I heard that enough times,

2207
02:19:40,470 --> 02:19:45,450
I, I really had to start like listening
and thinking about it because people

2208
02:19:45,770 --> 02:19:48,810
really seem to get an increase
of confidence from it. Like,

2209
02:19:48,830 --> 02:19:51,930
and how they described
it is, I feel like, um,

2210
02:19:52,600 --> 02:19:56,930
I feel like I have the resources to
get what I need to get done today

2211
02:19:57,120 --> 02:20:01,610
versus, you know, if you wake up with
rumination and you're like, oh my gosh,

2212
02:20:01,610 --> 02:20:04,170
I just don't, I just don't have what
it takes to get through the day,

2213
02:20:04,170 --> 02:20:07,330
that can really just like
hold you back your entire day.

2214
02:20:07,470 --> 02:20:11,890
But if you start your day with a little
CBG and suddenly you're all like, okay,

2215
02:20:12,000 --> 02:20:14,810
I can handle this, let's go. And, um,

2216
02:20:15,500 --> 02:20:19,090
it showed up very significantly in
the questionnaires that we got back.

2217
02:20:19,110 --> 02:20:23,050
But then also in the three years
since then, um, uh, I just,

2218
02:20:23,050 --> 02:20:25,250
I just see it in patience
all the time when they,

2219
02:20:25,720 --> 02:20:30,620
when they tell me that they have sourced
it and they're using it and they're

2220
02:20:30,620 --> 02:20:34,540
loving it and they never wanna
not have it again. And so, um,

2221
02:20:34,720 --> 02:20:38,460
CBG cannabigerol can be relied on for, um,

2222
02:20:38,470 --> 02:20:42,860
as a really reliable anti-anxiety
with no intoxication. Okay,

2223
02:20:42,860 --> 02:20:44,980
so now the specific numbers
and milligrams that,

2224
02:20:44,980 --> 02:20:48,660
that we're seeing people
have success with, um, uh,

2225
02:20:48,660 --> 02:20:53,580
10 milligrams of CBG every
three hours does a great job for

2226
02:20:53,580 --> 02:20:58,180
both. So if you want to
use it as a pain reliever,

2227
02:20:58,280 --> 02:21:00,980
10 milligrams of CBG
every three hours does,

2228
02:21:00,980 --> 02:21:04,380
does usually has fantastic results. Um,

2229
02:21:04,380 --> 02:21:07,180
if you have got a very
high background anxiety,

2230
02:21:07,240 --> 02:21:10,780
you might need to take CBG
multiple times throughout the day,

2231
02:21:11,040 --> 02:21:12,580
but really for most folks,

2232
02:21:12,710 --> 02:21:17,020
they'll take it in the morning
and it kind of sets them on the,

2233
02:21:17,020 --> 02:21:19,340
on an anti-anxiety path for the day,

2234
02:21:19,400 --> 02:21:22,740
and they just seem to be like
okay with that one dose. Now,

2235
02:21:22,740 --> 02:21:25,100
if they have like a stress
event in the afternoon, um,

2236
02:21:25,100 --> 02:21:27,860
many people will take it
again. But really, um,

2237
02:21:27,970 --> 02:21:31,020
unless you already have chronic anxiety,

2238
02:21:31,020 --> 02:21:34,780
if you just like have a bit of anxiety
or if you have like morning rumination

2239
02:21:34,780 --> 02:21:36,060
that you need to get rid of,

2240
02:21:36,160 --> 02:21:40,660
you may get away with just taking 10
milligrams of whole plant CBG just once in

2241
02:21:40,660 --> 02:21:43,100
the morning and good for the
rest of the day. But, you know,

2242
02:21:43,100 --> 02:21:46,180
if your anxiety continues throughout
the day, you can certainly take it, um,

2243
02:21:46,270 --> 02:21:50,740
as needed because taking more, um,
has got no negative impact. Now,

2244
02:21:50,740 --> 02:21:55,580
20 milligrams makes it happen even
faster and with a bit more, um, spun.

2245
02:21:56,550 --> 02:21:58,980
So, uh, let's say that, um, you know,

2246
02:21:58,980 --> 02:22:02,780
generally you take 10 milligrams just
because you've got a high background

2247
02:22:02,780 --> 02:22:07,060
anxiety, but, um, today you need
to give a presentation, right?

2248
02:22:07,200 --> 02:22:11,980
And so your, your, your anxiety
is going to be especially peaked.

2249
02:22:11,980 --> 02:22:16,740
Well then go ahead and take 20 milligrams
and, and don't monkey around with it,

2250
02:22:16,740 --> 02:22:20,940
right? Um, and those are, those are great
low numbers, right? You know, if you,

2251
02:22:20,940 --> 02:22:25,560
if you think back to the thc we were
talking, you know, um, you know, 10,

2252
02:22:25,560 --> 02:22:30,320
you know, five or 10, but then the
c we were talking 80 and 200, well,

2253
02:22:30,320 --> 02:22:32,520
this is back down to, uh,

2254
02:22:32,580 --> 02:22:35,960
THC levels more like 10
or 20 milligrams and, uh,

2255
02:22:35,960 --> 02:22:38,880
makes it much more affordable
if you can find it,

2256
02:22:38,880 --> 02:22:43,600
because the CBG that is available to
you, um, just lasts a whole lot longer.

2257
02:22:44,730 --> 02:22:49,580
Okay? So, uh, to wrap up this
second set, we looked at, um,

2258
02:22:49,580 --> 02:22:50,740
the, the, you know,

2259
02:22:50,740 --> 02:22:55,380
how to think about dosing
for THC and for C B D and for

2260
02:22:55,600 --> 02:23:00,500
cbg. And granted there are a lot of
other cannabinoids out there, but,

2261
02:23:00,710 --> 02:23:01,543
um,

2262
02:23:02,160 --> 02:23:07,070
between the lack of
availability in most places and

2263
02:23:07,070 --> 02:23:11,590
the lack of the research about
what is an effective dose, um,

2264
02:23:11,980 --> 02:23:16,590
I don't wanna give you information
that is not solidified yet. And,

2265
02:23:16,650 --> 02:23:21,230
and so since these are the three
cannabinoids that most people, um,

2266
02:23:21,230 --> 02:23:26,110
have easier access to, this is, this is
what we are going to talk about today.

2267
02:23:26,770 --> 02:23:31,230
And as new cannabinoids become
more available in the future,

2268
02:23:31,230 --> 02:23:36,110
like for example, cbn, we're gonna
be seeing a lot more of CBN soon. Um,

2269
02:23:36,110 --> 02:23:38,910
you know, when that
comes, you will have, um,

2270
02:23:38,910 --> 02:23:43,910
you will have the proper understanding
and context to look at the studies that

2271
02:23:43,910 --> 02:23:48,910
are coming out and being published
on project cbd.org and learning

2272
02:23:48,910 --> 02:23:53,470
how to add that to your own particular
health protocol with cannabis medicine.

2273
02:23:54,090 --> 02:23:56,350
All right, so, um, uh,

2274
02:23:56,350 --> 02:23:59,430
we're gonna take our short break and
when we come back with set three,

2275
02:23:59,430 --> 02:24:03,310
we're gonna talk about,
um, some use cases, um, uh,

2276
02:24:03,310 --> 02:24:07,110
like arthritis and leg and joint
pain and neuropathy. And, and,

2277
02:24:07,110 --> 02:24:11,110
and we'll just talk about, um, thinking
through some of these use cases, um,

2278
02:24:11,120 --> 02:24:15,150
to make sure that you really understand
how to think through doing your dosing.

2279
02:24:15,150 --> 02:24:19,110
Because like I've said, everybody's
dosing in the end is unique. We,

2280
02:24:19,110 --> 02:24:22,390
we can give you these guides to
get you started, but in the end,

2281
02:24:22,390 --> 02:24:23,590
you will be divide,

2282
02:24:23,590 --> 02:24:28,350
devising your own protocol as you get to
understand how cannabis medicine works

2283
02:24:28,350 --> 02:24:31,910
and how it works with
your own body. So, uh,

2284
02:24:31,910 --> 02:24:33,790
we're going to take a short
break and be right back.

2285
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podcast. When I attend conventions
to speak or moderate panels,

2348
02:28:24,880 --> 02:28:27,560
I always record them and bring
the content home for you to watch.

2349
02:28:27,860 --> 02:28:30,880
The Shang Golo YouTube channel
has world class speakers,

2350
02:28:30,880 --> 02:28:34,520
including Zoe Sigmund's lecture,
understanding Your Endocannabinoid System,

2351
02:28:34,640 --> 02:28:36,560
Kevin Jory of Wonderland Nursery,

2352
02:28:36,560 --> 02:28:39,240
talking about breeding cannabis
for the best terpene profile.

2353
02:28:39,670 --> 02:28:42,800
Frenchie Canoles Lost Art
of the Hasian presentation,

2354
02:28:43,600 --> 02:28:47,160
Nicholas Mamu on Regenerative and
Polyculture cannabis growing Dr.

2355
02:28:47,160 --> 02:28:50,040
Sunil Agarwal on the history of
cannabis medicine around the world.

2356
02:28:50,270 --> 02:28:55,040
Eric Velos and Josh Rutherford on
Solventless Extraction and Jeff Lowen

2357
02:28:55,040 --> 02:28:58,520
Fells on the Soil Food Web. There
are several presentations from Dr.

2358
02:28:58,520 --> 02:29:02,560
Ethan Russo on terpenes and the
endocannabinoid system too. While there,

2359
02:29:02,560 --> 02:29:07,000
be sure to check out the three 10 Part
Shaping Fire Session series one with

2360
02:29:07,000 --> 02:29:10,720
Kevin Jory, one with Dr. Ethan
Russo, and one with Jeff Lowen Fells,

2361
02:29:10,860 --> 02:29:14,520
and even my own presentations on how
to approach finding your dream job in

2362
02:29:14,680 --> 02:29:16,760
cannabis and why we
choose cannabis business,

2363
02:29:16,760 --> 02:29:19,480
even though the risks
are so high As of today,

2364
02:29:19,480 --> 02:29:22,040
there's over 200 videos that
you can check out for free.

2365
02:29:22,330 --> 02:29:26,960
So go to youtube.com/sh golo or
click on the link in the newsletter.

2366
02:29:28,060 --> 02:29:31,370
Welcome back, you are listening
to Shaping Fire, episode 100,

2367
02:29:31,370 --> 02:29:35,330
and I am your host, Shang. Go Lo.
So here we are in the third set,

2368
02:29:35,330 --> 02:29:37,330
the big wrap up. So during the first set,

2369
02:29:37,380 --> 02:29:41,730
we learned about how our endocannabinoid
system functions and considered some of

2370
02:29:41,730 --> 02:29:46,330
the different ways to take cannabis
medicine into your body based on what, uh,

2371
02:29:46,330 --> 02:29:50,210
is gonna be best to suit, uh, the
ailment that you are working with.

2372
02:29:50,280 --> 02:29:53,770
During the second set, we
talked about very specific, um,

2373
02:29:53,770 --> 02:29:57,730
dosing strategies and how to
consider dosing protocols, um,

2374
02:29:57,730 --> 02:30:01,130
for the most popular three
cannabinoids that people, um,

2375
02:30:01,130 --> 02:30:05,650
look to supplement with
thc, C, B, D and cbg.

2376
02:30:05,950 --> 02:30:10,210
And here in set three, which hopefully
will be, uh, shorter than the first two,

2377
02:30:10,500 --> 02:30:14,930
um, we're gonna talk about,
um, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 specific,

2378
02:30:15,820 --> 02:30:16,890
um, um,

2379
02:30:17,400 --> 02:30:20,970
issues that people come to me
asking for dosing strategies for.

2380
02:30:21,150 --> 02:30:23,930
And we'll go over those
kind of swiftly since,

2381
02:30:23,930 --> 02:30:27,290
since you've heard most of the analysis
already earlier in the show. Um,

2382
02:30:27,290 --> 02:30:31,290
I'm just gonna tie them together,
um, which should, you know,

2383
02:30:31,290 --> 02:30:34,850
kind of give you a roadmap to how you
can think about them yourself. So,

2384
02:30:34,850 --> 02:30:36,290
alright, let's get right to it.

2385
02:30:36,420 --> 02:30:40,090
So the first one we're gonna talk
about is kind of this bucket of issues,

2386
02:30:40,090 --> 02:30:44,410
which is arthritis, leg and
joint pain and neuropathy.

2387
02:30:44,780 --> 02:30:48,370
Um, the thing that these all
have in common is that, uh,

2388
02:30:48,370 --> 02:30:52,810
it is an ongoing chronic
discomfort or pain, um,

2389
02:30:52,810 --> 02:30:55,370
most likely caused by inflammation.

2390
02:30:56,030 --> 02:31:00,930
And so even though it, it manifests
differently in these different issues, um,

2391
02:31:00,930 --> 02:31:02,410
they, they really do have, uh,

2392
02:31:02,410 --> 02:31:04,650
a lot of similarity in how
we're gonna treat them.

2393
02:31:05,150 --> 02:31:09,170
And so if somebody came to me with one
of three these, this is what I would say,

2394
02:31:09,460 --> 02:31:11,490
um, first of all, I would recommend, uh,

2395
02:31:11,490 --> 02:31:16,170
2.5 to five milligrams of THC
if they are intolerant of thc

2396
02:31:16,260 --> 02:31:18,570
or are especially
concerned about, you know,

2397
02:31:18,570 --> 02:31:23,040
feeling out of control or high
in any way. Um, and then if they,

2398
02:31:23,670 --> 02:31:28,160
I would also tell them that once
they built up a comfort with, uh,

2399
02:31:28,160 --> 02:31:32,480
taking thc, or if they already take
thc, perhaps they are a, you know,

2400
02:31:32,480 --> 02:31:33,960
a recreational toker or something,

2401
02:31:33,960 --> 02:31:36,960
then go ahead and start with
five to 10 milligrams. You know,

2402
02:31:36,960 --> 02:31:40,120
if they are THC tolerance, um, you know,

2403
02:31:40,120 --> 02:31:42,120
if you build up a
tolerance from daily use,

2404
02:31:42,120 --> 02:31:44,840
this number can go as high as
a hundred milligrams or more.

2405
02:31:44,840 --> 02:31:45,880
As we've already talked about,

2406
02:31:46,240 --> 02:31:50,120
these patients could probably benefit
from a tolerance break from the thc.

2407
02:31:50,120 --> 02:31:53,200
And I understand that some patients
cannot live a day without thc,

2408
02:31:53,200 --> 02:31:56,760
so I'm not being cocky about it or
ableist. What I'm trying to say is,

2409
02:31:56,760 --> 02:32:01,760
if you can work it out for a day
or two or more to not take THC to

2410
02:32:01,760 --> 02:32:04,840
bring your tolerance down from needing
to take a hundred milligrams a day,

2411
02:32:05,170 --> 02:32:09,320
it would probably be both physically
and financially of benefit to you.

2412
02:32:10,020 --> 02:32:13,920
And the last thing I would say
here is to consider a topical, um,

2413
02:32:13,950 --> 02:32:18,320
with arthritis and leg and joint
pain and often neuropathy, um,

2414
02:32:18,320 --> 02:32:23,320
you can actually use a THC based
topical localized and targeted to where

2415
02:32:23,320 --> 02:32:24,520
the discomfort's coming from.

2416
02:32:24,700 --> 02:32:28,040
And then that way you are
taking cannabinoids orally,

2417
02:32:28,280 --> 02:32:32,160
which will help with, uh,
systemic anti-inflammation.

2418
02:32:32,220 --> 02:32:36,160
But also when you place the topical
locally, you're getting, you know,

2419
02:32:36,160 --> 02:32:40,080
you're doubling down on making sure
that you're applying cannabinoids in the

2420
02:32:40,080 --> 02:32:40,913
proper area.

2421
02:32:41,410 --> 02:32:45,560
If you are making your own tinctures
and you are aware that topicals are

2422
02:32:45,560 --> 02:32:46,270
expensive,

2423
02:32:46,270 --> 02:32:51,080
I encourage you to just take some
of your tincture and, you know,

2424
02:32:51,080 --> 02:32:53,680
a ramn like they serve you
ketchup in at the restaurant.

2425
02:32:53,810 --> 02:32:57,320
Go ahead and put some kind of a hand
lotion or a massage lotion or like

2426
02:32:57,320 --> 02:33:01,160
luberderm or something in one of
those little, uh, ketchup rams.

2427
02:33:01,160 --> 02:33:04,560
And then put just a little bit of your
tincture in it and swirled around with,

2428
02:33:04,560 --> 02:33:08,400
with your finger. And now you
have made instant topical. Um,

2429
02:33:08,400 --> 02:33:12,440
it's what I used in the early days, um,
before I learned how to make topicals.

2430
02:33:12,440 --> 02:33:14,240
And it works absolutely fantastic.

2431
02:33:14,850 --> 02:33:18,280
So you can consider that and save a lot
of money on the kind of prices that they

2432
02:33:18,280 --> 02:33:21,600
charge for topicals at the
licensed stores. All right,

2433
02:33:21,600 --> 02:33:25,240
so that's a quick run through of arthritis
leg and joint pain and neuropathy.

2434
02:33:25,240 --> 02:33:27,480
Let's talk about cancer symptom relief.

2435
02:33:27,490 --> 02:33:31,680
So we're not talking about the full
fight cancer protocol here and,

2436
02:33:31,680 --> 02:33:33,520
and hopefully we'll do
this again sometime and,

2437
02:33:33,520 --> 02:33:36,120
and I'll talk about the cancer
fighting protocol in detail.

2438
02:33:36,230 --> 02:33:38,400
What we're talking about here is, um,

2439
02:33:38,620 --> 02:33:42,640
for patients who have
got cancer and are, um,

2440
02:33:42,640 --> 02:33:45,840
either simply just suffering from
the cancer and they, they're,

2441
02:33:45,840 --> 02:33:47,240
that's all they're doing. Um,

2442
02:33:47,240 --> 02:33:51,840
so they're looking for comfort or more
commonly they've chosen to go the route

2443
02:33:51,930 --> 02:33:54,560
of, uh, some variety of, uh, chemotherapy.

2444
02:33:54,860 --> 02:33:59,440
And so they are dealing with
the symptoms from the chemo, um,

2445
02:33:59,440 --> 02:34:03,800
stacked on top of the discomfort
and, um, from the cancer,

2446
02:34:04,290 --> 02:34:07,000
uh, experience itself.
So for these people,

2447
02:34:07,660 --> 02:34:11,320
the first thing I would
recommend is, um, uh, thc.

2448
02:34:11,700 --> 02:34:14,080
And that's gonna help
them in so many ways.

2449
02:34:14,220 --> 02:34:18,400
The first thing it's gonna do is just
make them them a little more comfortable

2450
02:34:18,400 --> 02:34:21,880
in their body. By the time
cancer has gotten advanced,

2451
02:34:21,880 --> 02:34:26,360
and especially if you are, um,
taking any kind of chemo, your,

2452
02:34:26,430 --> 02:34:31,360
your human meat suit is just not
feeling like your ally anymore. Um,

2453
02:34:31,360 --> 02:34:35,840
you've got aches and pains and things
aren't working properly and fluids aren't

2454
02:34:35,840 --> 02:34:40,840
moving properly, and it's just all
around lack of comfort. But, um,

2455
02:34:40,840 --> 02:34:45,840
taking five to 10 milligrams of
THC based tincture is going to

2456
02:34:45,840 --> 02:34:49,480
put you in a place where you feel a
little more comfortable in your body.

2457
02:34:49,480 --> 02:34:53,840
Your muscles are a little more relent
relaxed instead of just being clenched.

2458
02:34:54,620 --> 02:34:58,600
And, um, and you're a little
distracted from the THC too.

2459
02:34:58,980 --> 02:35:01,960
And you know, you haven't really
changed the status of your body.

2460
02:35:01,960 --> 02:35:06,320
Your body is still incredibly
uncomfortable and sick. However,

2461
02:35:07,180 --> 02:35:11,800
you can get a little bit of respite
just from the THC and the relaxation and

2462
02:35:11,800 --> 02:35:13,560
the, and the easing of your human.

2463
02:35:14,150 --> 02:35:18,320
Also that THC is very likely to
give you an appetite as well.

2464
02:35:18,700 --> 02:35:22,040
And as we know, um, cancer
patients, especially in chemo,

2465
02:35:22,040 --> 02:35:25,560
tend to lose their appetite. And we
really don't want you thinning down.

2466
02:35:25,560 --> 02:35:30,200
At the same time, we wanna try to
help you keep weight on so that, um,

2467
02:35:30,200 --> 02:35:34,880
you know, you don't slip into some
kind of a, a wasting, um, cycle. Uh,

2468
02:35:34,880 --> 02:35:38,200
cuz that's, that's not
usually a good sign. Um,

2469
02:35:38,200 --> 02:35:41,480
if you have access to
thc, a that's the, um,

2470
02:35:41,630 --> 02:35:46,240
that's THC that has not been
heated or decar vaccinated THC

2471
02:35:46,330 --> 02:35:48,920
is actually really effective in, um,

2472
02:35:48,920 --> 02:35:53,080
cancer patients for helping
rebuild appetite as well. Um,

2473
02:35:53,080 --> 02:35:54,480
just in case for you,

2474
02:35:54,900 --> 02:35:59,520
THC is not appetite forming,
uh, try the acid form.

2475
02:35:59,570 --> 02:36:04,280
Um, we get a lot of good results
with that here on the island, um,

2476
02:36:04,280 --> 02:36:07,880
ever since we started talking about
it. So that's been, uh, real positive.

2477
02:36:08,540 --> 02:36:09,200
And so,

2478
02:36:09,200 --> 02:36:13,240
and the last thing for cancer symptom
relief is to just simply take as much

2479
02:36:13,240 --> 02:36:17,920
whole plant C b D oil as as you can
afford, as we discussed earlier,

2480
02:36:17,920 --> 02:36:22,840
because your body's endocannabinoid
system is probably a

2481
02:36:22,840 --> 02:36:26,920
wreck from all of the pharmaceuticals
and especially if you are taking chemo

2482
02:36:27,740 --> 02:36:32,040
and your body's natural
balancing system is,

2483
02:36:32,220 --> 02:36:33,760
has been totally traumatized.

2484
02:36:34,140 --> 02:36:37,600
And so you're not properly
making signaling molecules and,

2485
02:36:37,880 --> 02:36:42,880
and endocannabinoids and you could
really benefit from dumping as much c b D

2486
02:36:42,880 --> 02:36:47,000
into your body as you can
likely afford. So, um, you know,

2487
02:36:47,000 --> 02:36:49,840
I I guess I should put a a top
on it. I wouldn't put, you know,

2488
02:36:49,840 --> 02:36:54,760
more than 400 milligrams of
whole plant into, um, you know,

2489
02:36:54,760 --> 02:36:58,520
a day. You, you probably, your body
probably couldn't process more than that.

2490
02:36:58,620 --> 02:37:03,560
And I actually don't have an opinion on,
uh, how much isolate is a maximum. Um,

2491
02:37:03,560 --> 02:37:04,960
and, and especially for cancer,

2492
02:37:05,030 --> 02:37:09,920
I would really recommend that you
use a whole plant preparation so

2493
02:37:09,920 --> 02:37:13,800
that you're getting all the secondary,
uh, novel cannabinoids and, um,

2494
02:37:14,020 --> 02:37:18,480
the other synergistic components that
we're not entirely certain how they help

2495
02:37:18,480 --> 02:37:21,640
out yet, like canif, flavin
and the others. For example,

2496
02:37:23,350 --> 02:37:28,070
let's talk about migraines. So migraines,
um, they're kind of low hanging fruit,

2497
02:37:28,360 --> 02:37:30,910
um, either works or it doesn't,

2498
02:37:31,330 --> 02:37:36,110
but what the dosage is is pretty
basic and it's 20 milligrams of whole

2499
02:37:36,110 --> 02:37:38,950
plant CBD two times a day minimum.

2500
02:37:39,560 --> 02:37:43,510
So you can take more if you'd
like, of course. Um, but, uh,

2501
02:37:43,510 --> 02:37:47,150
20 milligrams two times a day, uh,
seems to work pretty well for folks.

2502
02:37:47,740 --> 02:37:52,630
Once people realize whether or not
they are of the 20% of people who

2503
02:37:52,630 --> 02:37:57,350
are kept awake at night by CBD
because of it activating the

2504
02:37:57,350 --> 02:38:00,030
body's housekeeping, if
you're not one of those 20%,

2505
02:38:00,030 --> 02:38:02,670
go ahead and take it in
the evening too, which, uh,

2506
02:38:02,670 --> 02:38:05,750
hopefully will act as a prophylactic so
you don't wake up in the morning with a

2507
02:38:05,950 --> 02:38:10,870
migraine. But be aware that if you
are one of the 20% of people that CBD

2508
02:38:11,150 --> 02:38:12,750
keeps up at night, um,

2509
02:38:12,770 --> 02:38:17,110
you wanna avoid that cuz that probably
will increase your likelihood of actually

2510
02:38:17,110 --> 02:38:21,300
waking up with a migraine. I
also would have you consider, uh,

2511
02:38:21,300 --> 02:38:25,940
a small amount of THC for muscle
relaxation because we know that

2512
02:38:26,120 --> 02:38:30,980
not only does a relaxation
of the muscle sets help

2513
02:38:31,380 --> 02:38:35,100
decrease the likelihood of
migraines, but if you are, uh,

2514
02:38:35,100 --> 02:38:36,780
pretty severe migraine patient,

2515
02:38:37,370 --> 02:38:41,580
your body's fear of having another
migraine and going through that,

2516
02:38:41,580 --> 02:38:46,020
that cycle of pain and discomfort
itself can cause the body

2517
02:38:46,270 --> 02:38:49,180
to, um, constrict,

2518
02:38:49,300 --> 02:38:53,220
which in and of itself can cause
migraines and, and it just feels bad.

2519
02:38:53,220 --> 02:38:58,180
So if you're not resistant
to, uh, trying thc, um,

2520
02:38:58,180 --> 02:39:02,460
taking five milligrams of
a THC tincture along with

2521
02:39:02,840 --> 02:39:06,540
the 20 milligrams of C B D, um, uh,

2522
02:39:06,540 --> 02:39:11,380
will likely help you either
move out of a migraine or even

2523
02:39:11,380 --> 02:39:15,900
better, uh, be a preventative. I would
also consider, uh, have you consider, um,

2524
02:39:15,900 --> 02:39:19,220
microdosing psilocybin mushrooms at uh,

2525
02:39:19,600 --> 02:39:24,540
one milligrams, um, taken
20 days a month. Um,

2526
02:39:24,540 --> 02:39:28,620
if you'd like to learn more about working
with your migraine using psilocybin

2527
02:39:28,740 --> 02:39:33,700
mushrooms, I encourage you to listen to
shaping fire episodes 67 with Dr. Russo,

2528
02:39:33,700 --> 02:39:38,380
where we talk all about treating
migraines with cannabis and, um,

2529
02:39:38,720 --> 02:39:43,260
soy mushrooms. It's a good one. The next
one we're gonna talk about is insomnia.

2530
02:39:43,410 --> 02:39:45,700
Insomnia is incredibly common, um,

2531
02:39:45,960 --> 02:39:49,940
for me to hear about because so many
people have got it for different reasons

2532
02:39:49,940 --> 02:39:54,540
and it is actually pretty easy
to treat with, um, with cannabis.

2533
02:39:55,000 --> 02:39:56,780
The first question I
always ask people though,

2534
02:39:56,780 --> 02:40:00,140
when they tell me that they have insomnia
is not one that they generally like,

2535
02:40:00,280 --> 02:40:02,060
and that question is always, um,

2536
02:40:02,270 --> 02:40:05,780
do you drink coffee in the morning
because that is the first thing to go.

2537
02:40:06,000 --> 02:40:10,620
The halflife of the drug we
call caffeine is 14 hours.

2538
02:40:10,910 --> 02:40:15,520
So by the time you are drinking
tomorrow morning's coffee,

2539
02:40:15,900 --> 02:40:19,600
you are still on yesterday's caffeine
that you took in the morning.

2540
02:40:20,060 --> 02:40:22,560
And if this is continuing every day,

2541
02:40:22,950 --> 02:40:25,480
you're never not on caffeine,

2542
02:40:25,560 --> 02:40:28,560
which means that when you're
trying to go to sleep at night,

2543
02:40:28,740 --> 02:40:33,680
you are always fighting against a
stimulant that you took not only that

2544
02:40:33,680 --> 02:40:35,920
morning, but yesterday morning as well.

2545
02:40:36,460 --> 02:40:40,400
And so that would be the first
place is to stop drinking caffeine.

2546
02:40:41,170 --> 02:40:41,840
Um, second,

2547
02:40:41,840 --> 02:40:44,680
I would ask them what they think their
source of their insomnia or what,

2548
02:40:44,680 --> 02:40:49,440
what's the flavor? Um, insomnia
tends to fall into two categories.

2549
02:40:49,460 --> 02:40:52,800
One being some sort of discomfort or pain,

2550
02:40:52,980 --> 02:40:56,800
and then the other sort being some
sort of anxiety or rumination.

2551
02:40:57,180 --> 02:41:01,400
And then I would suggest for
them solutions for the pain

2552
02:41:01,850 --> 02:41:04,640
or the anxiety rumination. Um,

2553
02:41:04,780 --> 02:41:09,640
but oddly they do tend to be both
the same cannabis prescription,

2554
02:41:09,640 --> 02:41:14,400
which is five to 10 milligrams
of an indica tincture

2555
02:41:14,830 --> 02:41:17,760
made using purple
flowering cannabis plants.

2556
02:41:17,780 --> 02:41:21,960
Now I know that the terms sativa
and indica are antiquated,

2557
02:41:22,100 --> 02:41:26,360
but people are still using them and
they can be helpful when going to,

2558
02:41:26,660 --> 02:41:29,280
you know, a licensed store and
talking with a bud tenderer.

2559
02:41:29,280 --> 02:41:32,840
But what we're looking
for are, uh, a tinctures,

2560
02:41:33,310 --> 02:41:37,640
preferably made from plants
from the, you know, Afghanistan,

2561
02:41:37,960 --> 02:41:42,360
Pakistan region, um, that are purple
because these plants, um, are,

2562
02:41:42,690 --> 02:41:47,600
uh, heavily narcotic and lethargic
and that's what we wanna do, right?

2563
02:41:47,600 --> 02:41:52,280
We want to cause drowsiness and
we want to cause muscle relaxation

2564
02:41:52,280 --> 02:41:56,240
and we want to slow you down and make
you feel a little dreamy and then put you

2565
02:41:56,240 --> 02:42:00,560
to sleep. Also, these plants, these
purple flowering cannabis plants, um,

2566
02:42:00,560 --> 02:42:02,920
they're usually packed with the turpen,

2567
02:42:02,980 --> 02:42:05,920
the terpenes mirroring and lulu,

2568
02:42:06,080 --> 02:42:10,880
which also help you feel drowsy
and have you go to sleep. Um,

2569
02:42:10,880 --> 02:42:15,080
specifically if the insomnia is
caused by anxiety and rumination, um,

2570
02:42:15,080 --> 02:42:19,720
it would be really great, uh, to add
some CBG tincture to that as well.

2571
02:42:20,300 --> 02:42:24,120
And if the person that you're
working with or yourself, um,

2572
02:42:24,570 --> 02:42:29,400
is THC intolerant either on principle
or, or they're sensitive to it, um,

2573
02:42:29,400 --> 02:42:31,640
you can just give them cbg um,

2574
02:42:32,020 --> 02:42:36,520
CBG helps with both pain
and anxiety rumination. Um,

2575
02:42:37,050 --> 02:42:41,560
so taking between 10 milligrams
and 20 milligrams of CBG

2576
02:42:41,740 --> 02:42:46,120
for insomnia is very effective
for folks, especially if, um,

2577
02:42:46,120 --> 02:42:49,560
they are very much not
interested in taking THC

2578
02:42:50,800 --> 02:42:51,650
depression.

2579
02:42:51,760 --> 02:42:56,050
Depression would be 20
milligrams two times a day of CBD

2580
02:42:56,530 --> 02:43:00,330
where you're taking that because your
goal is to build up the endocannabinoid

2581
02:43:00,330 --> 02:43:04,850
system and to help regulate
the brain chemistry. Um,

2582
02:43:05,120 --> 02:43:07,850
this is something that you
wanna do long term, right?

2583
02:43:07,850 --> 02:43:11,680
CBD is not something that you're just
gonna take Monday and then Thursday and

2584
02:43:11,680 --> 02:43:16,160
then Sunday. No, no, no, you want to
take CBD every day because the benefits,

2585
02:43:16,160 --> 02:43:20,840
the primary benefits come from building
up your endocannabinoid system and

2586
02:43:20,840 --> 02:43:25,120
making it burley so it can do its
job regulating your body's systems.

2587
02:43:25,730 --> 02:43:29,280
So that would be, um, 20
milligrams two times a day,

2588
02:43:29,560 --> 02:43:33,280
three times if you can take it
in the evening, uh, of C B D.

2589
02:43:33,980 --> 02:43:37,880
And also to put yourself in a good mood
and make things a little more tolerable

2590
02:43:37,880 --> 02:43:40,480
while you're trying to
change yourself systemically.

2591
02:43:40,850 --> 02:43:44,200
Go ahead and try to get your hands
on some CBG tincture or oil as well,

2592
02:43:44,620 --> 02:43:49,280
and take 10 milligrams of that twice a
day in the morning and then after lunch.

2593
02:43:49,770 --> 02:43:51,720
Um, that cbg my goodness,

2594
02:43:51,720 --> 02:43:56,200
is it an effective anti-anxiety and it
just makes things feel a little better

2595
02:43:56,260 --> 02:44:00,760
and the confidence that it
brings really helps even out the

2596
02:44:00,760 --> 02:44:03,680
depression vibes of hopelessness.

2597
02:44:04,760 --> 02:44:09,540
And then I would also recommend
microdosing, psilocybin,
microdosing psilocybin,

2598
02:44:09,750 --> 02:44:10,100
um,

2599
02:44:10,100 --> 02:44:14,900
really helps improve your neural
network and pull you out of a funk.

2600
02:44:15,470 --> 02:44:18,060
Um, there's lots of research
on it to support it,

2601
02:44:18,060 --> 02:44:20,620
and I encourage you to check out the, um,

2602
02:44:20,620 --> 02:44:23,940
the microdose psilocybin
episodes on Shaping Fire.

2603
02:44:24,990 --> 02:44:29,090
And the last one we're gonna talk about
here is neuro divergent support. Um,

2604
02:44:29,090 --> 02:44:30,130
more and more people,

2605
02:44:30,130 --> 02:44:34,770
especially during quarantine
when our lives got less

2606
02:44:34,770 --> 02:44:39,730
thrilling and we were creating less
dopamine from having relatively

2607
02:44:39,730 --> 02:44:42,890
boring quarantined lives. Um,

2608
02:44:42,890 --> 02:44:47,130
a lot of people realized that they
have some flavor of neuro divergence.

2609
02:44:47,670 --> 02:44:49,970
And while you figure that out, um,

2610
02:44:49,970 --> 02:44:53,850
by doing your reading and
checking out the, uh, neuro,

2611
02:44:53,850 --> 02:44:58,850
neuro divergent community on TikTok,
I also recommend, um, these, um,

2612
02:44:58,850 --> 02:45:02,010
as potential things to help you get
through as you figure out the best

2613
02:45:02,010 --> 02:45:05,650
combination for you. Uh,
40 milligrams of cbd,

2614
02:45:05,650 --> 02:45:08,330
whole plant oil two times a day. Um,

2615
02:45:08,330 --> 02:45:11,730
this is of course because we wanna build
up that endocannabinoid system and we

2616
02:45:11,730 --> 02:45:16,610
wanna give our brain as many signaling
molecules as it can to do its

2617
02:45:16,610 --> 02:45:19,330
job because neuro divergent brains,

2618
02:45:19,330 --> 02:45:23,810
they are running hotter and faster than
other people's brains and they need

2619
02:45:23,810 --> 02:45:28,130
intentional support. Um,
you're not driving a, you know,

2620
02:45:28,130 --> 02:45:29,810
a regular car like everybody else.

2621
02:45:29,810 --> 02:45:34,370
You're driving a Formula One and Formula
One cars. They need specialty tires,

2622
02:45:34,370 --> 02:45:38,730
specialty oils, specialty
fluids, and so do you, my friend.

2623
02:45:39,300 --> 02:45:44,250
Um, and I was also helpful to, you know,
keep things in a good perspective by,

2624
02:45:44,260 --> 02:45:49,210
um, supplementing with CBG 10
milligrams two times a day. Um, and,

2625
02:45:49,210 --> 02:45:52,810
and the reason is just simply, it's hard
out there for neuro divergent folks.

2626
02:45:52,810 --> 02:45:56,570
This world was not designed
for the neuro divergent brain,

2627
02:45:56,750 --> 02:46:01,690
and that can get incredibly frustrating.
And so taking some cbg giving you that,

2628
02:46:01,690 --> 02:46:05,530
that confidence and a feeling that
you've got the resources to make it work,

2629
02:46:05,620 --> 02:46:10,240
it can really make your days more
tolerable. Um, I'd also recommend, uh,

2630
02:46:10,240 --> 02:46:14,280
200 milligrams of L theanine. Now,
this is not a cannabis, uh, product,

2631
02:46:14,280 --> 02:46:15,840
that's for sure. Um,

2632
02:46:15,940 --> 02:46:20,680
but I know that neuro divergent
folks who run hot and anxious, um,

2633
02:46:20,680 --> 02:46:24,600
find that L theanine,
200 milligrams of it, um,

2634
02:46:24,600 --> 02:46:28,200
really evens out the
spiky parts of the day,

2635
02:46:28,200 --> 02:46:32,040
the days that where you get
overstimulated and or harshed out

2636
02:46:32,790 --> 02:46:37,120
from, uh, from, you know,
feeling over sensory inputted.

2637
02:46:37,490 --> 02:46:40,600
Um, altheine does a really
great job taking out this,

2638
02:46:40,600 --> 02:46:44,960
the scratchiness of your day. And if you
happen to be a person that's into thc,

2639
02:46:44,960 --> 02:46:45,520
well, you know,

2640
02:46:45,520 --> 02:46:50,200
having some THC tincture just to make
you too feel more comfortable in your

2641
02:46:50,200 --> 02:46:54,920
body, that can o often feel strange to
you. Um, feel free to add, you know,

2642
02:46:54,920 --> 02:46:59,040
five to 10 milligrams
of thc, um, as you wish.

2643
02:47:00,360 --> 02:47:04,860
And good luck. So these, these, uh,

2644
02:47:04,860 --> 02:47:07,540
these six areas that I just, you know,

2645
02:47:07,710 --> 02:47:12,060
swiftly went through how I
would think through dosing

2646
02:47:12,060 --> 02:47:15,460
suggestions, I, I did this
not because, you know,

2647
02:47:15,460 --> 02:47:19,780
I can't go through everyth all the issues
that everybody has, but the idea is,

2648
02:47:19,780 --> 02:47:21,580
I I wanted to give you a couple pictures,

2649
02:47:21,580 --> 02:47:26,260
a couple examples of how you can
stack different, uh, cannabis,

2650
02:47:26,260 --> 02:47:30,900
different cannabinoids along
with different antigens like

2651
02:47:30,900 --> 02:47:35,420
psilocybin mushrooms, um, along
with occasional, you know,

2652
02:47:35,420 --> 02:47:39,900
herbal supplements like Altheine and some
common sense like perhaps don't drink

2653
02:47:39,900 --> 02:47:44,470
coffee if you're having
somnia. Um, so that you can,

2654
02:47:44,570 --> 02:47:47,950
you know, figure out a stack for
yourself that meets your needs. Um,

2655
02:47:47,950 --> 02:47:51,630
you don't have to do it the way other
people do. Individualized medicine is,

2656
02:47:51,630 --> 02:47:55,750
is a thing and your body is
unique. And so, um, keep a journal,

2657
02:47:56,020 --> 02:47:58,190
figure out what works for you and,

2658
02:47:58,190 --> 02:48:02,270
and don't let your family or
doctors push you around. Um,

2659
02:48:02,300 --> 02:48:07,030
I am a strong advocate of patients rights
as, as everybody knows, especially,

2660
02:48:07,280 --> 02:48:11,830
um, uh, cannabis patient
self-sufficiency. So, um,

2661
02:48:11,830 --> 02:48:15,350
it's your body take notes and,
and learn what's best for you.

2662
02:48:16,220 --> 02:48:19,400
And I guess that's a wrap. Um,
if you are still with us, uh,

2663
02:48:19,400 --> 02:48:22,320
thank you so much for listening
to this entire episode. Um,

2664
02:48:22,320 --> 02:48:24,920
it is the longest shaping
fire episode that, um,

2665
02:48:24,920 --> 02:48:29,280
I have published and I wanted to
get this all in one document, right?

2666
02:48:29,310 --> 02:48:31,160
I have been thinking about this show and,

2667
02:48:31,160 --> 02:48:33,440
and working on notes for
it for a long time now.

2668
02:48:34,020 --> 02:48:38,880
And if you know you have found the
time to listen to it for yourself, um,

2669
02:48:38,880 --> 02:48:39,960
I congratulate you.

2670
02:48:40,260 --> 02:48:44,240
And if you are listening to this because
you were a caregiver or someone you

2671
02:48:44,240 --> 02:48:49,160
love uses cannabis medicine, well I
really appreciate you too because, um,

2672
02:48:49,400 --> 02:48:53,600
cannabis patients need all the help
and support and love that we can get.

2673
02:48:54,290 --> 02:48:56,560
So, um, if you would
like to learn more, uh,

2674
02:48:56,560 --> 02:49:01,280
please peruse the first hundred
episodes of the Shaping Fire podcast and

2675
02:49:01,520 --> 02:49:04,280
subscribe to the show in
your favorite podcast app.

2676
02:49:04,280 --> 02:49:07,600
There are so many great episodes for, uh,

2677
02:49:07,600 --> 02:49:12,520
patients about patient health and for
how to cultivate your own cannabis in a

2678
02:49:12,520 --> 02:49:16,280
healthy and organic regenerative way.
Um, who knows if you're a patient,

2679
02:49:16,280 --> 02:49:18,040
maybe growing will be your new hobby.

2680
02:49:18,510 --> 02:49:21,680
I also recommend that you check out
the Shaping Fire YouTube channel,

2681
02:49:22,000 --> 02:49:25,560
where there are nearly 200
videos of speakers, um,

2682
02:49:25,840 --> 02:49:30,120
from all sorts of different conventions
and such that I have attended over the

2683
02:49:30,120 --> 02:49:33,920
years. And, um, I've just always
posted the videos there. Um,

2684
02:49:33,920 --> 02:49:38,840
so you can find those, um, uh,
topics ranging from cannabis to,

2685
02:49:38,890 --> 02:49:43,760
uh, mushrooms to IBO gain, all sorts
of different videos there on YouTube,

2686
02:49:43,760 --> 02:49:46,720
just, uh, search YouTube Shaping Fire.

2687
02:49:47,450 --> 02:49:52,240
So thanks for being here for
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2688
02:49:52,240 --> 02:49:53,920
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2689
02:49:54,720 --> 02:49:58,260
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2690
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2691
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2692
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2697
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2698
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2699
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2700
02:50:31,710 --> 02:50:35,180
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2701
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2704
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