1 00:00:00,315 --> 00:00:01,765 - This week on the RV podcast, 2 00:00:02,225 --> 00:00:05,285 - Are you ready for the great cicada apocalypse? 3 00:00:05,655 --> 00:00:09,325 We'll talk to one of North America's top experts about 4 00:00:09,325 --> 00:00:12,125 what you may encounter soon on your camping trips. 5 00:00:13,065 --> 00:00:16,485 - And can creditors seize your RV if you go bankrupt, 6 00:00:17,075 --> 00:00:18,565 even if it's your full-time home? 7 00:00:18,915 --> 00:00:22,125 They did for an Arizona couple, and we'll tell you about it. 8 00:00:23,205 --> 00:00:25,045 - National Park Week is almost here, 9 00:00:25,065 --> 00:00:26,645 and that means free entry 10 00:00:26,705 --> 00:00:29,205 and lots of festivities at national parks 11 00:00:29,845 --> 00:00:31,765 starting this Saturday, April 20th, 12 00:00:32,385 --> 00:00:34,645 - All this plus the RV News of the week. 13 00:00:35,425 --> 00:00:39,165 - And your questions coming up in episode 4 93 14 00:00:39,385 --> 00:00:40,445 of the RV podcast. 15 00:00:56,535 --> 00:00:58,245 Hello everybody. I'm Mike. 16 00:00:58,265 --> 00:01:01,245 We, and this is my lifelong traveling companion 17 00:01:01,265 --> 00:01:02,925 and my bride Jennifer. 18 00:01:03,705 --> 00:01:05,765 And yes, we still are under the weather. 19 00:01:06,345 --> 00:01:07,685 - We keep sharing germs. 20 00:01:07,685 --> 00:01:09,325 They go back and forth, so, oh my gosh. 21 00:01:09,325 --> 00:01:10,325 Forgive me if I cough. 22 00:01:11,005 --> 00:01:12,765 - , I should say up. - So now you cough. 23 00:01:12,835 --> 00:01:16,565 - Yeah, now I cough. Um, yeah, we've been swapping this drum 24 00:01:16,705 --> 00:01:19,925 for two weeks now, and, uh, it got so bad for me. 25 00:01:20,005 --> 00:01:23,405 I had, this is the first time I've not been able to do, uh, 26 00:01:23,665 --> 00:01:24,725 an ask us anything. 27 00:01:25,245 --> 00:01:28,085 I was just too much under the weather, so we missed it. 28 00:01:28,085 --> 00:01:30,285 This, uh, this past, uh, uh, Sunday. 29 00:01:31,075 --> 00:01:33,565 Hopefully we'll be back next Sunday with more. 30 00:01:34,145 --> 00:01:37,005 Um, but it's been a bugger getting rid of this, isn't it? 31 00:01:37,515 --> 00:01:39,685 - Yeah. I think it's more like three weeks. Yeah. 32 00:01:40,385 --> 00:01:41,565 - Oh, well, but - Who's counting 33 00:01:41,745 --> 00:01:42,765 - And who's gonna complain? 34 00:01:43,345 --> 00:01:46,085 But we did see a bumper sticker coming outta the doctor's 35 00:01:46,085 --> 00:01:48,605 appointment today that kinda, uh, helped us 36 00:01:48,625 --> 00:01:50,845 to realize we don't wanna complain. It 37 00:01:50,845 --> 00:01:52,725 - Said, keep up your complaining and 38 00:01:53,265 --> 00:01:54,685 - God will let you live longer. 39 00:01:55,445 --> 00:01:58,445 . So, I get it. I get it. Okay. 40 00:01:59,025 --> 00:02:01,645 Uh, hey, just a quick reminder that our video version 41 00:02:01,645 --> 00:02:05,285 of the podcast is available for you to watch, uh, at, uh, 42 00:02:05,355 --> 00:02:07,325 YouTube, uh, on our YouTube channel, 43 00:02:07,325 --> 00:02:09,525 youtube.com/rv lifestyle. 44 00:02:09,945 --> 00:02:12,485 And of course, you can listen to the audio version on all 45 00:02:12,485 --> 00:02:14,125 of your favorite podcast apps, 46 00:02:14,945 --> 00:02:17,245 and we would love to get your reviews. 47 00:02:17,345 --> 00:02:21,045 If you like this podcast, um, boy, we just love those four, 48 00:02:21,055 --> 00:02:22,645 those five star, four star, 49 00:02:22,645 --> 00:02:24,765 five star reviews, whatever you feel appropriate. 50 00:02:25,185 --> 00:02:27,405 Um, if you like it, please let us know. 51 00:02:27,465 --> 00:02:29,165 If you don't like it, just don't tell anybody. 52 00:02:29,165 --> 00:02:31,485 Please . And here's our feelings, . 53 00:02:31,985 --> 00:02:33,765 So, but we hope you do like it. 54 00:02:33,945 --> 00:02:36,045 The, the more reviews we get, the, uh, 55 00:02:36,185 --> 00:02:38,765 the more the podcast is shown, uh, uh, 56 00:02:38,825 --> 00:02:41,445 and, uh, featured on the various podcast apps. 57 00:02:41,545 --> 00:02:43,005 So that's why we ask for 'em. 58 00:02:43,425 --> 00:02:46,085 So, uh, we hope that you have been watching 59 00:02:46,825 --> 00:02:50,805 our ongoing five part series on class B RVs 60 00:02:50,805 --> 00:02:52,525 that we started over the weekend. 61 00:02:53,265 --> 00:02:56,805 Uh, we have, uh, let's see, the fifth one, uh, was released, 62 00:02:56,865 --> 00:03:00,205 uh, this morning as this podcast is being released on, 63 00:03:00,265 --> 00:03:01,645 uh, April 17th. 64 00:03:02,425 --> 00:03:06,485 And, uh, the, the sixth one, which will be kind of the best 65 00:03:06,505 --> 00:03:07,965 of the best, what we like, the best, 66 00:03:08,035 --> 00:03:11,005 that will be on our podcast channel on Saturday. 67 00:03:11,945 --> 00:03:13,125 So we hope you can check it out. 68 00:03:13,265 --> 00:03:15,085 - And then what are we gonna do? Well, 69 00:03:15,085 --> 00:03:16,085 - I don't know. 70 00:03:16,085 --> 00:03:18,245 There's a lot of different RVs out there, but, uh, true. 71 00:03:18,425 --> 00:03:19,845 We wanna go camping in ours. 72 00:03:20,025 --> 00:03:22,925 Uh, we brought our fifth wheel home from Tennessee last 73 00:03:22,925 --> 00:03:26,205 week, and it's, uh, sitting out there calling me. 74 00:03:26,585 --> 00:03:28,405 So I'm ready if you're ready. 75 00:03:29,365 --> 00:03:31,205 - I can't believe - You've been home a week. 76 00:03:31,225 --> 00:03:32,845 And what did you say today? I'd like 77 00:03:32,845 --> 00:03:34,285 - To go someplace even - Though we're sick. 78 00:03:34,875 --> 00:03:36,645 Yeah. Uh, and, 79 00:03:36,745 --> 00:03:39,365 and this we may not be our normal 80 00:03:40,645 --> 00:03:43,525 bulent chit chatters in this podcast today 81 00:03:43,525 --> 00:03:46,365 because, uh, we, we tend to both cough 82 00:03:46,385 --> 00:03:47,445 and our voices are a little 83 00:03:47,445 --> 00:03:48,485 - Strange. I'm trying not to cough. 84 00:03:48,705 --> 00:03:49,925 - Yep. And it's, it's hard. 85 00:03:50,385 --> 00:03:53,525 Um, but hey, um, uh, check out that podcast thing 86 00:03:53,525 --> 00:03:54,725 and if you haven't subscribed 87 00:03:54,725 --> 00:03:56,365 to our YouTube channel, please do so. 88 00:03:56,825 --> 00:04:00,085 Uh, we're at youtube.com/rv lifestyle. 89 00:04:00,585 --> 00:04:01,925 And by the way, we love to get your 90 00:04:02,085 --> 00:04:03,325 comments and your questions. 91 00:04:03,385 --> 00:04:07,405 Our private email is Mike and jen@rvlifestyle.com. 92 00:04:07,715 --> 00:04:10,405 When we, when we come right back here, the, uh, 93 00:04:10,825 --> 00:04:13,205 RV Social Media Buzz with Wendy Boyer. 94 00:04:13,285 --> 00:04:16,045 Stay with us. 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165 00:07:37,935 --> 00:07:39,195 You know, you're out there in the rig. 166 00:07:39,195 --> 00:07:41,195 There's all these different temperature fluctuations, 167 00:07:41,215 --> 00:07:42,515 and he was concerned about this. 168 00:07:42,975 --> 00:07:44,235 So lots of people chimed in. 169 00:07:44,335 --> 00:07:46,755 Doreen was one of many who said, during the camping season, 170 00:07:46,815 --> 00:07:49,275 she just leaves it all out there in her rig, 171 00:07:49,275 --> 00:07:52,515 doesn't worry about it, but brings it inside off season 172 00:07:52,695 --> 00:07:53,715 to keep the freshness. 173 00:07:54,255 --> 00:07:56,115 Uh, despina, I love what she wrote. 174 00:07:56,175 --> 00:07:58,835 She sounds like she's very serious about her spices, 175 00:07:58,835 --> 00:08:00,275 making her own blends. 176 00:08:00,655 --> 00:08:04,235 And then when she's cooking with them, she, uh, takes a pan. 177 00:08:04,255 --> 00:08:06,555 She kinda does a dry heat to kind of bring 178 00:08:06,675 --> 00:08:08,595 that flavor out when she's cooking. 179 00:08:09,215 --> 00:08:11,835 And she says, you know, she uses an airtight container 180 00:08:11,835 --> 00:08:14,795 and it's fine, but she also brings them in off season. 181 00:08:15,415 --> 00:08:19,235 And Brenda said she did once have some spice a spice go bad 182 00:08:19,235 --> 00:08:20,515 when she was out RVing. 183 00:08:20,815 --> 00:08:22,035 Um, and so she suggested 184 00:08:22,035 --> 00:08:24,595 that James put some rice in his spice, um, 185 00:08:24,825 --> 00:08:27,275 container depending on what type of shaker lid it has, 186 00:08:27,735 --> 00:08:29,355 and that should help with the freshness. 187 00:08:29,455 --> 00:08:32,155 So some ideas there for our RV chefs. 188 00:08:32,695 --> 00:08:35,995 Um, also in our RV lifestyle community, we had a post 189 00:08:36,415 --> 00:08:39,915 by Paul in our travel planning and trip space. 190 00:08:40,295 --> 00:08:44,035 And I love this post and it really got people talking. 191 00:08:44,615 --> 00:08:48,755 So Paul is planning a big epic bucket list trip this summer. 192 00:08:48,845 --> 00:08:50,435 We're talking 6,000 miles. 193 00:08:50,545 --> 00:08:51,995 He's starting in North Carolina, 194 00:08:52,325 --> 00:08:54,035 going all the way up that East Coast. 195 00:08:54,625 --> 00:08:57,485 He's gonna be hitting Maine, new Brunswick, Nova Scotia, 196 00:08:57,485 --> 00:08:58,525 prince Edward Island. 197 00:08:59,275 --> 00:09:01,045 He's even going to Newfoundland 198 00:09:01,105 --> 00:09:03,805 and he's going to be there for the Iceberg Festival. 199 00:09:03,945 --> 00:09:05,125 How exciting is that? 200 00:09:05,305 --> 00:09:07,605 So he was just sharing this with, um, the group. 201 00:09:07,785 --> 00:09:10,205 And many people were excited for him to be able 202 00:09:10,205 --> 00:09:11,205 to make a trip like this. 203 00:09:11,665 --> 00:09:14,365 Um, Ken send, make sure you eat lots of lobster for him. 204 00:09:14,865 --> 00:09:16,885 And many people, including Tina, Sheila, 205 00:09:16,885 --> 00:09:19,125 and others, said, please share your pictures with us. 206 00:09:19,185 --> 00:09:20,325 And Paul said he will. 207 00:09:20,745 --> 00:09:22,685 And that's one thing I love about the community, 208 00:09:22,685 --> 00:09:24,805 is just there's true friendships being formed there, 209 00:09:24,825 --> 00:09:27,445 and people really do wanna see pictures of his adventure. 210 00:09:27,505 --> 00:09:29,125 So I can't wait to see those. Paul. 211 00:09:30,185 --> 00:09:32,805 And then meanwhile over in our Facebook group, 212 00:09:32,945 --> 00:09:34,205 we had a post from Amber 213 00:09:34,345 --> 00:09:38,285 and she said, how firm is the 10 year rule in RV parks? 214 00:09:39,025 --> 00:09:40,725 And what she's talking about is a rule 215 00:09:40,725 --> 00:09:42,965 that some campgrounds have prohibiting RVs 216 00:09:42,965 --> 00:09:45,205 that are more than 10 years old from camping there. 217 00:09:45,705 --> 00:09:48,045 And Amber has an older rig and she's, she's concerned. 218 00:09:48,545 --> 00:09:50,005 So this sparked a big discussion. 219 00:09:50,005 --> 00:09:52,365 We're talking more than 300 comments. 220 00:09:53,185 --> 00:09:55,725 And the bottom line is enforcement really varies. 221 00:09:56,225 --> 00:09:59,005 Bob said he experienced this at a campground in Las Vegas. 222 00:09:59,435 --> 00:10:00,445 They wouldn't even let him. 223 00:10:00,475 --> 00:10:02,325 They wouldn't even consider letting him stay there 224 00:10:02,565 --> 00:10:03,965 'cause his rigs more than 10 years old. 225 00:10:04,425 --> 00:10:06,965 And Diana, she camps a lot in resorts. 226 00:10:07,065 --> 00:10:09,965 And she said that in 10 years of camping, 227 00:10:10,075 --> 00:10:12,165 only two times has she run into a place 228 00:10:12,165 --> 00:10:13,445 that did not have this rule. 229 00:10:13,905 --> 00:10:14,925 And Mark said, you know, 230 00:10:14,925 --> 00:10:17,885 if the park's advertising a 10 year enforcement rule, 231 00:10:17,885 --> 00:10:19,605 then you better believe they're going to, 232 00:10:19,985 --> 00:10:21,645 you know, put that into action. 233 00:10:22,385 --> 00:10:25,205 But the good news is, most campgrounds don't have this rule. 234 00:10:25,205 --> 00:10:26,925 If you're camping in a state 235 00:10:26,985 --> 00:10:29,005 or federal campground, no problem. 236 00:10:29,555 --> 00:10:33,645 Private campgrounds, they might have, um, they might ask you 237 00:10:33,745 --> 00:10:35,125 for a picture of your rig. 238 00:10:35,125 --> 00:10:36,605 If your rigs more than 10 years old, 239 00:10:36,945 --> 00:10:39,045 you show them the picture that your rigs nice, 240 00:10:39,115 --> 00:10:42,245 well maintained, cared for, then no problem staying there. 241 00:10:42,425 --> 00:10:44,485 So, um, good question from Amber 242 00:10:44,825 --> 00:10:47,325 and, uh, hopefully her mind is at ease. 243 00:10:47,945 --> 00:10:49,645 So that's it for me this week. 244 00:10:49,745 --> 00:10:50,845 I'm Wendy Boyer, 245 00:10:50,905 --> 00:10:52,845 and I'll see you over at the RV Lifestyle 246 00:10:52,845 --> 00:10:54,325 Community or Facebook group. 247 00:10:54,995 --> 00:10:56,685 - Well, thank you very much, Wendy Boyer. 248 00:10:56,985 --> 00:10:59,765 As always, we appreciate your, uh, keeping tabs 249 00:10:59,785 --> 00:11:01,845 of all those fun conversations over there on 250 00:11:01,845 --> 00:11:02,925 social media. And it 251 00:11:02,925 --> 00:11:05,085 - Really is nice when people share pictures, 252 00:11:05,085 --> 00:11:06,965 especially they go on these big trips 253 00:11:07,145 --> 00:11:08,685 or even a trip, that's not epic 254 00:11:08,835 --> 00:11:10,885 because not all of us can go there. 255 00:11:11,585 --> 00:11:14,925 And it's fun to look at everything. It's like being there. 256 00:11:15,155 --> 00:11:17,525 - Yeah, I love to see people share their mm-Hmm, 257 00:11:17,565 --> 00:11:18,565 their experiences like that. 258 00:11:18,585 --> 00:11:21,605 And that's what there, um, check out if you haven't joined 259 00:11:21,625 --> 00:11:23,165 by the way, check out our, uh, 260 00:11:23,235 --> 00:11:25,565 community dot rv lifestyle.com. 261 00:11:26,105 --> 00:11:29,605 Um, this is a great, uh, source for all questions 262 00:11:29,705 --> 00:11:31,805 and comments and relationships, uh, 263 00:11:31,805 --> 00:11:33,245 relating to the RV lifestyle. 264 00:11:33,505 --> 00:11:35,845 You'll find a very welcoming community there. 265 00:11:35,865 --> 00:11:37,365 We invite you to come over, click over 266 00:11:37,365 --> 00:11:41,885 and joins absolutely free community dot rv lifestyle.com. 267 00:11:42,475 --> 00:11:45,645 When we come back, we're gonna talk about the great cicada 268 00:11:46,055 --> 00:11:47,725 apocalypse coming soon. 269 00:11:49,255 --> 00:11:52,195 We just heard about a land offering out west 270 00:11:52,415 --> 00:11:54,485 for our RVs in Arizona. 271 00:11:54,875 --> 00:11:57,485 They're selling five acre RV ranches, 272 00:11:57,725 --> 00:12:00,005 starting at only $49,900. 273 00:12:00,665 --> 00:12:02,925 The company offering it is affiliated 274 00:12:03,035 --> 00:12:04,125 with the people Jennifer 275 00:12:04,265 --> 00:12:06,445 and I bought our Tennessee property from. 276 00:12:06,635 --> 00:12:09,685 They do a great job. 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Now, 302 00:13:18,305 --> 00:13:19,305 - How do they know that? 303 00:13:19,305 --> 00:13:20,845 Does somebody count 'em? Well, yes. 304 00:13:20,865 --> 00:13:23,005 As a matter of fact, our guest counts 'em. 305 00:13:23,505 --> 00:13:25,245 He, he's a cicada counter. 306 00:13:26,065 --> 00:13:28,605 Now for our viewers who will be out camping, 307 00:13:29,395 --> 00:13:31,285 what should you expect out there in 308 00:13:31,285 --> 00:13:35,405 what the media is calling the cicada apocalypse? 309 00:13:36,025 --> 00:13:37,245 To help us prepare 310 00:13:37,425 --> 00:13:39,405 and learn more, we have a very special 311 00:13:39,405 --> 00:13:40,645 guest on our show today, Dr. 312 00:13:40,795 --> 00:13:41,845 Jean Ksky. 313 00:13:42,105 --> 00:13:46,925 He is an entomologist and a cicada expert from Mount St. 314 00:13:46,925 --> 00:13:50,565 Joseph University in Cincinnati, Ohio. And Dr. 315 00:13:50,785 --> 00:13:53,525 Kresky says, this is a big deal. 316 00:13:54,915 --> 00:13:56,485 - Well, Dr. Kresky, it's a pleasure 317 00:13:56,485 --> 00:13:57,565 to have you with us on the 318 00:13:57,565 --> 00:13:58,565 - Podcast today. 319 00:13:58,855 --> 00:14:00,925 - Let's, let's just sort of start with, we've heard 320 00:14:00,985 --> 00:14:04,365 so much about this, uh, basic questions and back. 321 00:14:04,555 --> 00:14:05,565 What is a cicada? 322 00:14:06,145 --> 00:14:09,485 Uh, what do they look like and what's their lifecycle? 323 00:14:09,775 --> 00:14:10,775 We'll start with that. 324 00:14:11,725 --> 00:14:13,655 - Well, uh, periodical cicadas belong 325 00:14:13,655 --> 00:14:15,175 to the insect order hempter, 326 00:14:15,175 --> 00:14:16,455 and that's as technical, let's get with 327 00:14:16,455 --> 00:14:17,535 that, that type of material. 328 00:14:17,915 --> 00:14:21,175 Uh, but they are closely related to things like, uh, aphids, 329 00:14:21,475 --> 00:14:22,975 bed bugs, stink bugs. 330 00:14:23,405 --> 00:14:25,015 They're sucking insects. 331 00:14:25,475 --> 00:14:28,815 Uh, and, uh, they're on 3,400 species worldwide. 332 00:14:28,815 --> 00:14:32,215 And there are seven species of periodical cicadas 333 00:14:32,245 --> 00:14:34,695 that live only in the eastern half of the United States. 334 00:14:35,635 --> 00:14:37,975 Uh, we, in addition to the periodical scs, many 335 00:14:37,975 --> 00:14:40,495 of the states have annual cicadas that will be merging in, 336 00:14:41,315 --> 00:14:45,255 in, uh, oh, probably around the 1st of July to mid-July 337 00:14:45,405 --> 00:14:47,455 through, uh, September. 338 00:14:47,795 --> 00:14:51,765 But the periodical SCADAs will coming out in May, late April 339 00:14:51,765 --> 00:14:53,325 or early May, depending where, where, 340 00:14:53,375 --> 00:14:55,965 where we're seeing the expecting the population to emerge. 341 00:14:56,585 --> 00:15:00,765 And, um, uh, what makes these insects somewhat special is 342 00:15:00,765 --> 00:15:02,965 that they have these incredible life cycles. 343 00:15:03,515 --> 00:15:07,245 It's the longest life cycle of an insect species 344 00:15:07,425 --> 00:15:09,725 for everyone in the, in the species. 345 00:15:10,225 --> 00:15:13,245 For example, some termites, uh, termite queens can live up 346 00:15:13,245 --> 00:15:15,525 to 50 years, but not the workers . 347 00:15:15,525 --> 00:15:17,125 They don't get the pleasure that long life. 348 00:15:17,625 --> 00:15:21,965 But, uh, uh, we have, uh, two life cycles, 17 year cicadas, 349 00:15:21,965 --> 00:15:23,845 which are more northern in their distribution compared 350 00:15:23,845 --> 00:15:25,045 to the 13 year cicadas. 351 00:15:25,625 --> 00:15:29,725 And, uh, why this year is getting all the attention is 352 00:15:29,725 --> 00:15:31,485 that we have two different broods. 353 00:15:31,745 --> 00:15:33,005 And a brood is a year class. 354 00:15:33,595 --> 00:15:35,565 It's like, uh, uh, all the cicadas 355 00:15:35,565 --> 00:15:37,645 that come out in a particular year that designates a brood. 356 00:15:37,645 --> 00:15:40,085 And it's almost like the graduating class of 2024. 357 00:15:40,085 --> 00:15:41,405 They'll have a reunion in, 358 00:15:41,465 --> 00:15:43,085 in 17 years, if you will, . 359 00:15:43,145 --> 00:15:47,445 And so, uh, uh, we have two broods emerging brooded, uh, 13, 360 00:15:47,445 --> 00:15:49,285 which is a 17 year cicada that'll be 361 00:15:49,285 --> 00:15:50,325 merging in northern Illinois. 362 00:15:50,425 --> 00:15:54,845 And, and, uh, uh, northwestern Indiana. 363 00:15:55,205 --> 00:15:57,045 Southern was extreme, Southern Wisconsin 364 00:15:57,105 --> 00:15:58,165 and northeastern Iowa. 365 00:15:58,585 --> 00:16:01,365 And then brewed 19, which is a 13 year cicada, 366 00:16:01,365 --> 00:16:04,005 goes all the way from central Illinois, almost all 367 00:16:04,005 --> 00:16:07,885 of Missouri, a swath through the southern states, uh, uh, 368 00:16:08,925 --> 00:16:11,685 Arkansas, Kentucky, Western Kentucky, middle of Tennessee, 369 00:16:12,005 --> 00:16:14,445 northern Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, Georgia, 370 00:16:14,505 --> 00:16:16,525 and into South Carolina, North Carolina. 371 00:16:16,595 --> 00:16:19,245 Just a few, a few spots in Virginia, uh, 372 00:16:19,305 --> 00:16:20,565 and one county in Maryland. 373 00:16:21,105 --> 00:16:24,445 And, uh, why this is exciting is, um, number one, 374 00:16:24,445 --> 00:16:26,365 the last time these two broods came out together was 375 00:16:26,365 --> 00:16:28,005 in 1803. 376 00:16:28,065 --> 00:16:29,725 We had Thomas Jefferson as president 377 00:16:29,725 --> 00:16:30,885 of the United States at that time. 378 00:16:32,345 --> 00:16:37,005 And, uh, second unlike other times when these dual broods 379 00:16:37,005 --> 00:16:38,405 come out, which happens about 30, a 30 380 00:16:38,405 --> 00:16:42,445 or more times over the course of a 200 year period, uh, uh, 381 00:16:42,875 --> 00:16:43,925 they actually have an area 382 00:16:43,925 --> 00:16:45,685 where there'll be a slight overlap. 383 00:16:46,895 --> 00:16:48,915 And that's creating a lot of excitement for people. 384 00:16:50,205 --> 00:16:52,995 - Lemme just back it up when we talk about, you know, 385 00:16:53,275 --> 00:16:56,555 13 years, 17 years, what are they doing during that time? 386 00:16:56,555 --> 00:16:58,955 They're just in the soil. Uh, where are they? 387 00:16:59,055 --> 00:17:01,715 And they're still alive, but we don't see 'em. 388 00:17:01,815 --> 00:17:02,835 Uh, where do they go? 389 00:17:03,295 --> 00:17:05,075 - That's right. Uh, uh, during, 390 00:17:05,075 --> 00:17:07,235 later in the summer when the eggs hatch, the egg, 391 00:17:07,255 --> 00:17:09,235 the nymphs, uh, which are about, uh, oh, 392 00:17:09,235 --> 00:17:11,435 about three millimeters in ville, drop to the ground 393 00:17:11,815 --> 00:17:13,235 and immediately go underground. 394 00:17:13,735 --> 00:17:16,355 Uh, they're very susceptible to spiders, ants 395 00:17:16,375 --> 00:17:19,075 and beetles, uh, when they come out as, as immatures. 396 00:17:19,535 --> 00:17:20,955 And they, for the first few weeks, 397 00:17:20,955 --> 00:17:23,395 they'll be feeding on grassroots, just below the surface. 398 00:17:23,535 --> 00:17:26,395 And then by New Year's day, they'll be eight to 12 inches 399 00:17:26,395 --> 00:17:28,595 below the surface, sucking on a tree root. 400 00:17:29,135 --> 00:17:30,875 Uh, they're not hibernating, they're not sleeping. 401 00:17:30,905 --> 00:17:33,395 They're, they're slow, they're not very active 402 00:17:33,395 --> 00:17:34,755 because it's cooler down there. 403 00:17:35,055 --> 00:17:37,755 But they'll be down there, uh, uh, tunneling, 404 00:17:37,905 --> 00:17:40,595 feeding on a tree root, moving to another tree root. 405 00:17:41,735 --> 00:17:42,875 And then, uh, 406 00:17:42,875 --> 00:17:44,835 they'll be molting four times shedding their skin 407 00:17:44,835 --> 00:17:47,475 underground and turning to the next immature stage. 408 00:17:48,375 --> 00:17:50,735 And then as they get older, they'll move a little closer. 409 00:17:52,035 --> 00:17:54,695 So right now they're probably between, oh, I'd say four 410 00:17:54,695 --> 00:17:55,855 and eight inches below the surface, 411 00:17:55,915 --> 00:17:57,095 the ones that are coming out this year. 412 00:17:58,725 --> 00:18:01,145 And, uh, uh, just, uh, what, 413 00:18:01,145 --> 00:18:02,665 what really seems like there's going on right now, 414 00:18:02,665 --> 00:18:04,465 because it's still spring, even though the temperature's 415 00:18:04,465 --> 00:18:07,385 been warm, our trees haven't leaked out yet. 416 00:18:08,245 --> 00:18:10,425 And they count the numbers of years 417 00:18:10,565 --> 00:18:12,825 by monitoring the fluid flow in the tree. 418 00:18:13,485 --> 00:18:15,185 And so they still think it's 16 years. 419 00:18:15,375 --> 00:18:18,225 It's not until later in the spring when the leaves, uh, 420 00:18:18,395 --> 00:18:20,425 start to form and the trees produce their flowers 421 00:18:20,655 --> 00:18:22,985 that they'll realize, ah, it's 17 years, we gotta get going. 422 00:18:25,255 --> 00:18:29,065 - It's amazing, though, that their clock, whatever clock 423 00:18:29,065 --> 00:18:33,065 that is, that insects have is that precise that we know. 424 00:18:33,065 --> 00:18:35,345 Mm-Hmm, . So they emerge from the soil, 425 00:18:36,085 --> 00:18:37,905 and then that's when we'll see them 426 00:18:38,565 --> 00:18:39,825 and I suppose, hear them. 427 00:18:40,655 --> 00:18:43,105 What do they do? They obviously go eat the leaves 428 00:18:43,205 --> 00:18:44,585 or they, what do they do? 429 00:18:45,015 --> 00:18:46,905 - Well, they, they, they have, uh, uh, 430 00:18:46,905 --> 00:18:47,905 they have sucking mouth parts. 431 00:18:47,905 --> 00:18:49,865 So they don't, they don't chew the leaves, 432 00:18:50,285 --> 00:18:53,025 but they do eat, uh, they literally are able to puncture 433 00:18:53,135 --> 00:18:54,465 with their, with their sucking mouth parts. 434 00:18:54,465 --> 00:18:56,265 They can puncture just below the bark and get, 435 00:18:56,285 --> 00:18:57,425 and remain hydrated. 436 00:18:58,005 --> 00:18:59,065 That's very important for them. 437 00:18:59,485 --> 00:19:01,265 But what they wanna do is as soon as they come out 438 00:19:01,265 --> 00:19:03,305 of the ground, they'll find a vertical surface, 439 00:19:03,415 --> 00:19:04,785 they'll crawl up that surface, 440 00:19:04,785 --> 00:19:07,825 they'll split open their immature skin, if you will, 441 00:19:07,825 --> 00:19:09,185 their, uh, exoskeleton. 442 00:19:09,405 --> 00:19:10,985 And the adult gets pulled out, 443 00:19:11,155 --> 00:19:12,625 pulls themselves out, I should say. 444 00:19:12,695 --> 00:19:15,225 They'll hang nearly upside down, uh, 445 00:19:15,225 --> 00:19:18,305 before they grab, do a sit up, grab, hold, pull their, 446 00:19:18,395 --> 00:19:19,825 their, their abdo in free. 447 00:19:19,825 --> 00:19:21,825 And then they pump their wings full of fluid 448 00:19:21,845 --> 00:19:22,985 to stretch them out. 449 00:19:23,485 --> 00:19:25,865 And then they take another hour 450 00:19:25,865 --> 00:19:29,145 or two, uh, to actually darken their exoskeleton, harden it, 451 00:19:29,445 --> 00:19:31,065 and they have the, they're these beautiful 452 00:19:31,665 --> 00:19:35,705 red-eyed black bodied orange, uh, winged in, 453 00:19:35,705 --> 00:19:38,385 or, uh, orange tin wing veins, uh, uh, of insects. 454 00:19:38,385 --> 00:19:39,825 But they're still not ready to do their thing yet. 455 00:19:40,095 --> 00:19:42,665 They will then climb up to the very tops of trees 456 00:19:42,965 --> 00:19:44,745 for five days because they have 457 00:19:44,745 --> 00:19:46,305 to continue their maturation process. 458 00:19:46,805 --> 00:19:47,985 And then they'll start singing. 459 00:19:49,075 --> 00:19:50,405 - They start, what, after five days? 460 00:19:50,585 --> 00:19:52,165 Oh, start making their noise. Yeah, 461 00:19:52,275 --> 00:19:53,275 - They start making the noise. 462 00:19:53,275 --> 00:19:55,565 And what then only the males have the, the, the, the, 463 00:19:55,565 --> 00:19:57,365 the sound producing structures, the timbers. 464 00:19:58,105 --> 00:20:00,885 And, uh, they'll, uh, they'll start, as I said, 465 00:20:00,885 --> 00:20:02,045 five days after they emerge. 466 00:20:02,665 --> 00:20:05,805 And during this time, more and more cicadas are emerging. 467 00:20:05,805 --> 00:20:07,125 They don't all emerge in one day. 468 00:20:07,455 --> 00:20:10,285 It'll take anywhere from, uh, a week to two weeks for all 469 00:20:10,285 --> 00:20:11,325 of them to come out of the ground. 470 00:20:11,865 --> 00:20:12,885 But after five days, 471 00:20:12,885 --> 00:20:14,485 you'll start hearing some weak choruses. 472 00:20:14,695 --> 00:20:18,525 After 10 days, it's louder, still, after, 473 00:20:19,215 --> 00:20:22,645 after, uh, the three, two, the two weeks, 474 00:20:22,645 --> 00:20:25,285 three weeks going into three weeks, it reaches its cacophony 475 00:20:25,285 --> 00:20:28,365 as, as more and more adults are screaming in the trees. 476 00:20:28,945 --> 00:20:31,205 And the, uh, the sound is quite large. 477 00:20:31,305 --> 00:20:34,525 Uh, I should say a large, large and sound, uh, is at loud. 478 00:20:35,025 --> 00:20:39,485 Uh, I have measured cicadas singing at 96 decibels. 479 00:20:40,105 --> 00:20:43,245 - Really - Put that in perspective at the university. 480 00:20:43,245 --> 00:20:44,805 There's the, the Sisters of Charity, uh, 481 00:20:45,085 --> 00:20:47,005 cemetery across the street from Mount Angeles University 482 00:20:47,585 --> 00:20:50,285 is on the flight path into CVG Cincinnati, 483 00:20:50,445 --> 00:20:51,645 Northern Kentucky International Airport. 484 00:20:52,065 --> 00:20:53,485 And during the Cicada emergency, 485 00:20:53,585 --> 00:20:55,125 you don't hear the jets flying in. 486 00:20:55,985 --> 00:20:57,605 - No. And they do, they, 487 00:20:57,825 --> 00:20:59,765 do they do the singing as you call it? 488 00:20:59,785 --> 00:21:02,765 Do they do that all day long, uh, or in the evening, 489 00:21:03,025 --> 00:21:05,925 or this is gonna be 24 hour, uh, 490 00:21:06,035 --> 00:21:07,525 cacophony for us for a while? 491 00:21:08,025 --> 00:21:09,165 - No, it basically, uh, 492 00:21:09,235 --> 00:21:11,045 they'll start singing about 10 in the morning, 493 00:21:11,225 --> 00:21:12,605 and then as it gets warmer 494 00:21:12,605 --> 00:21:14,045 and the day gets hotter, about two o'clock, 495 00:21:14,045 --> 00:21:15,085 they're reaching their loudest. 496 00:21:15,085 --> 00:21:17,965 And they'll continue doing that until, uh, the, it gets 497 00:21:17,965 --> 00:21:19,725 to be, uh, uh, towards sundown. 498 00:21:19,725 --> 00:21:21,565 And then the, a few more will stop singing. 499 00:21:21,865 --> 00:21:24,565 And they may go maybe a few minutes after sundown, 500 00:21:24,565 --> 00:21:25,885 but no, they'll be quiet at night 501 00:21:25,885 --> 00:21:27,645 because when they're, when they're singing, 502 00:21:27,645 --> 00:21:29,205 they're ad males are advertising, 503 00:21:29,545 --> 00:21:31,565 I'm a cicada, I could be eaten . 504 00:21:31,565 --> 00:21:34,685 And so they, they stay quiet at night as a means of, uh, 505 00:21:34,685 --> 00:21:35,725 keeping predators, 506 00:21:35,725 --> 00:21:37,285 nocturnal predators from finding them easily. 507 00:21:37,945 --> 00:21:39,685 - Now, I was, we're in, I'm in Florida, 508 00:21:39,785 --> 00:21:42,845 and the other morning I took my dog for a walk at a, 509 00:21:42,845 --> 00:21:45,125 at a local park, about 10 o'clock in the morning. 510 00:21:45,785 --> 00:21:48,165 And I thought I heard cicadas, then I heard 511 00:21:48,765 --> 00:21:50,325 a loud noise in the woods, 512 00:21:50,425 --> 00:21:52,565 and it sounded like, like insects. 513 00:21:52,975 --> 00:21:55,525 Would those be cicadas, or is, or is that a different time? 514 00:21:55,905 --> 00:21:57,445 - That's probably tho those are probably some 515 00:21:57,445 --> 00:22:00,445 of the tree crickets or some of the, uh, uh, 516 00:22:01,055 --> 00:22:02,565 Orrin insects that also sing. 517 00:22:03,105 --> 00:22:06,525 Um, the, uh, uh, periodical, SCS used 518 00:22:06,525 --> 00:22:08,205 to be known from the panhandle in Florida. 519 00:22:08,205 --> 00:22:09,245 There are historical records, 520 00:22:09,705 --> 00:22:12,165 but they have not been seen for many decades. 521 00:22:12,745 --> 00:22:14,085 Uh, and a number of my colleagues 522 00:22:14,085 --> 00:22:15,365 and I have gone down there looking for them. 523 00:22:15,945 --> 00:22:17,605 Uh, right now, the farthest south, 524 00:22:17,605 --> 00:22:20,525 they gets probably the Macon, Georgia area, uh, okay. 525 00:22:20,835 --> 00:22:22,605 Towards Florida. And there was something 526 00:22:22,605 --> 00:22:25,765 to get down into the, uh, uh, lo uh, uh, north of, uh, 527 00:22:25,945 --> 00:22:27,365 of New Orleans and Louisiana. 528 00:22:27,905 --> 00:22:28,905 But, uh, 529 00:22:30,345 --> 00:22:33,485 - Now we're gonna see how, guess how many, 530 00:22:33,515 --> 00:22:36,165 when we talk about, I've heard billions, trillions 531 00:22:36,915 --> 00:22:40,125 give us a sense of sense, particularly in those areas 532 00:22:40,125 --> 00:22:41,645 where there's gonna be the double hatch. 533 00:22:41,865 --> 00:22:43,525 Uh mm-Hmm. , what are we going 534 00:22:43,525 --> 00:22:44,845 to see? How many are we gonna see? 535 00:22:45,475 --> 00:22:48,525 - Well, nationwide, uh, I've, the, the, the, 536 00:22:48,525 --> 00:22:49,765 I've been in a number of estimates. 537 00:22:50,225 --> 00:22:52,845 Uh, uh, some of the more readily, I think the more, 538 00:22:52,945 --> 00:22:57,365 you know, general estimate was around like 256 billion 539 00:22:58,075 --> 00:22:59,565 over the entire distribution. 540 00:23:00,385 --> 00:23:03,285 Um, and the area of, uh, and, 541 00:23:03,305 --> 00:23:05,645 and that, that's based on a census that was done in the, 542 00:23:05,865 --> 00:23:08,325 in the fifties by Hank Dus from the Field Museum. 543 00:23:08,345 --> 00:23:10,845 And he went out and put down quadrants 544 00:23:10,845 --> 00:23:12,325 and counted all the holes. 545 00:23:13,525 --> 00:23:15,305 The emergence holes were the, the cicadas came out 546 00:23:16,625 --> 00:23:18,045 and they live under the, these 547 00:23:18,045 --> 00:23:19,085 are holes that are under trees. 548 00:23:19,325 --> 00:23:20,525 'cause they come up from the, where the, 549 00:23:20,525 --> 00:23:21,565 where the tree roots are. 550 00:23:23,125 --> 00:23:26,545 And based on the estimates he was getting for one acreage 551 00:23:26,685 --> 00:23:30,345 of, of ground under trees would be about 552 00:23:30,345 --> 00:23:32,145 1.8 million. Wow. 553 00:23:33,125 --> 00:23:36,065 - In an acre. - I did the same process, uh, here in, 554 00:23:36,065 --> 00:23:37,345 in the suburbs of Cincinnati. 555 00:23:37,685 --> 00:23:39,225 And we don't have that many in Cincinnati 556 00:23:39,425 --> 00:23:40,745 'cause of all the clear cutting and what have you. 557 00:23:40,745 --> 00:23:42,225 But, uh, but we were getting 558 00:23:42,225 --> 00:23:43,425 about three quarters of a million. 559 00:23:43,765 --> 00:23:45,670 But either way, that's still still a lot of bugs 560 00:23:46,085 --> 00:23:48,725 - , what it is, a lot of what, what, uh, 561 00:23:49,255 --> 00:23:51,445 areas will have the most, is there a state 562 00:23:51,445 --> 00:23:54,085 that's gonna be cicada central, so to speak? 563 00:23:54,595 --> 00:23:56,085 - Well, the, what's what's interesting 564 00:23:56,085 --> 00:23:57,885 as I mentioned earlier, is that this year we have these two 565 00:23:57,885 --> 00:24:00,245 different broods coming out, a 13 year cicada, uh, 566 00:24:00,585 --> 00:24:02,405 and a 17 year cicada brood. 567 00:24:02,905 --> 00:24:06,045 And, uh, uh, there is a small area of overlap, 568 00:24:06,145 --> 00:24:09,205 but those areas are right at the most southern extreme 569 00:24:09,425 --> 00:24:12,845 of brood 13 and the most northern extreme of brood 19. 570 00:24:12,865 --> 00:24:15,685 So we're not expecting massive numbers at that little spot. 571 00:24:16,435 --> 00:24:19,725 Okay. But, uh, uh, the census, uh, information 572 00:24:19,725 --> 00:24:22,645 that was done, uh, by, uh, d back in the, uh, fifties, 573 00:24:23,135 --> 00:24:25,685 those areas are gonna be getting cicadas this year. 574 00:24:25,745 --> 00:24:28,885 And so the, the some of the, I'm expecting some 575 00:24:28,885 --> 00:24:32,645 of the biggest and loudest numbers to be in the, uh, uh, out 576 00:24:32,645 --> 00:24:34,125 outside the suburb out suburbs 577 00:24:34,125 --> 00:24:36,325 and north, just outside of Chicago, uh, 578 00:24:36,325 --> 00:24:37,565 where they'll have incredible numbers. 579 00:24:38,065 --> 00:24:39,645 Uh, parts of southern Illinois 580 00:24:39,825 --> 00:24:42,285 and rural Missouri should have really good numbers 581 00:24:42,425 --> 00:24:43,445 as well, and be loud. 582 00:24:44,185 --> 00:24:47,005 - Now, do these pose any hazard to people? 583 00:24:47,005 --> 00:24:49,565 They don't bite it. You say they just suck, uh, 584 00:24:50,115 --> 00:24:52,565 tree the tree leaves or whatever it is, but 585 00:24:53,235 --> 00:24:54,235 - Tree roots, yeah. 586 00:24:54,235 --> 00:24:56,485 - Yeah. Do, do they cause any, they they 587 00:24:56,485 --> 00:24:57,485 - Don't bite. 588 00:24:58,245 --> 00:25:01,455 Well, they don't, cause they don't bite, they don't sting. 589 00:25:01,955 --> 00:25:04,575 Uh, they some, if you, if people have said 590 00:25:04,575 --> 00:25:06,415 that there were reports like in the 19th century 591 00:25:06,415 --> 00:25:07,495 of them stinging people, 592 00:25:07,795 --> 00:25:09,575 but when those were investigated, they all turned out 593 00:25:09,575 --> 00:25:12,895 to be related to cicada killer wasps, which come out later, 594 00:25:12,955 --> 00:25:14,135 not during the periodical sc 595 00:25:14,135 --> 00:25:16,255 and people getting stung by wasps in many cases. 596 00:25:17,075 --> 00:25:20,255 But, uh, uh, the only damage they can do, 597 00:25:20,315 --> 00:25:22,735 and it's not a real damage per se, they're not like the, 598 00:25:22,735 --> 00:25:25,095 they're not like grasshoppers that chew things up 599 00:25:25,095 --> 00:25:26,215 or what have you, uh, 600 00:25:26,355 --> 00:25:29,695 is when the female lays her eggs in the trees, uh, 601 00:25:30,165 --> 00:25:33,415 that sometimes causes the branch, the tip of the branch 602 00:25:33,515 --> 00:25:36,375 to break and leaves with her and turn brown 603 00:25:36,435 --> 00:25:37,735 and sort of dangle there. 604 00:25:37,915 --> 00:25:39,295 And that we call that flagging. 605 00:25:39,755 --> 00:25:42,295 And, uh, that it looks like they've been hit 606 00:25:42,295 --> 00:25:44,975 by a big hailstorm, uh, all the brown leaves. 607 00:25:45,115 --> 00:25:47,775 But it turns out that overall is, is actually beneficial 608 00:25:47,775 --> 00:25:49,255 because even though it doesn't look nice 609 00:25:49,785 --> 00:25:51,775 right now in the tree, it results in a, 610 00:25:51,805 --> 00:25:53,295 like a natural pruning. 611 00:25:53,595 --> 00:25:55,855 It results in a larger leaf set 612 00:25:55,855 --> 00:25:57,375 and flower set this next year. 613 00:25:59,375 --> 00:26:01,835 - Now there, how big are they? 614 00:26:02,425 --> 00:26:04,195 I've seen what, an inch and a half or so? 615 00:26:05,145 --> 00:26:07,765 - An inch and a half, uh, to two inches depending on the, 616 00:26:07,765 --> 00:26:09,165 there's three species that'll be coming out 617 00:26:09,165 --> 00:26:10,685 with the 17 year cicadas. 618 00:26:10,685 --> 00:26:13,405 And four species are the 13 year scs. 619 00:26:13,665 --> 00:26:17,085 Uh, the, the large species is about, uh, two, uh, uh, 620 00:26:17,085 --> 00:26:18,125 about up to two inches. 621 00:26:18,345 --> 00:26:20,365 And the smaller two species are about an inch 622 00:26:20,365 --> 00:26:22,005 and a half with, from head to the tip of the wing. 623 00:26:22,705 --> 00:26:24,725 - And so, uh, now one of the things I I, 624 00:26:24,845 --> 00:26:28,165 I read a story someplace about, uh, one effect 625 00:26:28,165 --> 00:26:32,285 of all this is we're going to have a lot of gorged wildlife, 626 00:26:32,545 --> 00:26:35,285 the animals that feed on cicadas. 627 00:26:35,345 --> 00:26:36,405 Is that, is that true? 628 00:26:37,815 --> 00:26:40,505 - Well, these, they, they are gonna be, that's part 629 00:26:40,505 --> 00:26:42,505 of their, uh, whole defensive mechanism. 630 00:26:43,065 --> 00:26:46,725 Uh, the cicadas come out, uh, in large numbers 631 00:26:46,865 --> 00:26:48,405 to satiate their predators. 632 00:26:48,405 --> 00:26:51,405 Those to give their predators so many cicadas to eat 633 00:26:51,795 --> 00:26:53,445 that they get tired of eating them. 634 00:26:53,985 --> 00:26:56,165 And then the end result is when they, when they, 635 00:26:56,185 --> 00:26:58,845 as they tired of eating cicadas, there's still millions more 636 00:26:58,845 --> 00:27:02,405 to reproduce, uh, the illustration, I'd like to con that, 637 00:27:02,405 --> 00:27:04,365 that people can't necessarily get their mind around it, 638 00:27:04,365 --> 00:27:06,405 but I always say, imagine if you walk outside today 639 00:27:06,625 --> 00:27:08,405 and you found the world swarming 640 00:27:08,405 --> 00:27:09,885 with flying Hershey's kisses 641 00:27:10,895 --> 00:27:11,895 - . 642 00:27:11,895 --> 00:27:12,005 Yeah, 643 00:27:12,455 --> 00:27:14,815 - I know Ivy a few, but that's a few. 644 00:27:14,815 --> 00:27:17,775 Yes. Sometimes, sometimes, uh, it could be too much 645 00:27:17,775 --> 00:27:19,175 of a good thing and you will get, 646 00:27:19,895 --> 00:27:21,255 i I won't eat them for a while. 647 00:27:21,635 --> 00:27:25,575 Uh, so, uh, uh, the, uh, uh, the survival strategy, 648 00:27:25,615 --> 00:27:27,095 periodic call cicadas is come up, 649 00:27:27,095 --> 00:27:28,775 these big numbers overwhelm the predators 650 00:27:28,775 --> 00:27:29,815 with all the prey they can eat. 651 00:27:30,115 --> 00:27:31,535 And they're still millions to go. 652 00:27:31,955 --> 00:27:33,815 The annual cicadas, which you have in Florida, 653 00:27:35,325 --> 00:27:37,825 and we have here in the Midwest as well, they're gonna, 654 00:27:38,055 --> 00:27:40,185 they will, they'll start emerging in July 655 00:27:40,185 --> 00:27:41,825 after the periodical scales are done. 656 00:27:42,695 --> 00:27:44,505 They are, they come out in small numbers. 657 00:27:44,975 --> 00:27:46,585 They're cryptically colored. 658 00:27:46,585 --> 00:27:50,025 They look like they're covered in camouflage green, brown, 659 00:27:50,045 --> 00:27:52,585 and khaki and, and black and what have you. 660 00:27:52,605 --> 00:27:53,905 And they're up in a tree and you 661 00:27:53,905 --> 00:27:55,225 hear 'em calling and you're staring. 662 00:27:55,285 --> 00:27:58,265 The that's, it's, it's backlit. So you can't see 'em easily. 663 00:27:58,845 --> 00:28:00,905 That's their maid of, of, uh, method 664 00:28:00,905 --> 00:28:01,905 of avoiding being eaten. 665 00:28:02,015 --> 00:28:04,145 They just can't be found easily. Yeah. 666 00:28:04,285 --> 00:28:08,185 Uh, whereas the periodics, they're, they're clumsy flyers. 667 00:28:08,185 --> 00:28:10,425 I've seen birds pick 'em off in the air 668 00:28:11,325 --> 00:28:12,505 - Now they they do fly. 669 00:28:13,125 --> 00:28:16,025 - Oh, yes. They can fly up two about a mile over the course 670 00:28:16,025 --> 00:28:17,825 of, uh, the, the most they'll fly would be probably 671 00:28:17,825 --> 00:28:18,905 about a month, about a mile. 672 00:28:18,925 --> 00:28:22,505 But many fly only just a few hundred yards, uh, mostly 673 00:28:22,605 --> 00:28:24,345 to find a tree to sing in, 674 00:28:24,405 --> 00:28:26,745 and then a tree to lay the female layer eggs in. 675 00:28:27,525 --> 00:28:29,585 - Now, the, uh, our audience, of course, 676 00:28:29,585 --> 00:28:30,865 is gonna be out there camping. 677 00:28:30,865 --> 00:28:33,145 They're in RVs to do, 678 00:28:33,415 --> 00:28:36,385 will we be seeing them splattering against windshields 679 00:28:36,405 --> 00:28:39,225 or covering our RVs and wooded areas? 680 00:28:40,175 --> 00:28:43,465 - Well, the, you they're talking about the only things, 681 00:28:43,575 --> 00:28:45,665 they're only gonna be present in the eastern half of the us. 682 00:28:46,325 --> 00:28:48,265 Uh, you can fly into them 683 00:28:48,265 --> 00:28:50,545 and they can, they can splatter the car if you'll, 684 00:28:50,545 --> 00:28:52,345 but not, they're not gonna be like the love bugs you get in 685 00:28:52,745 --> 00:28:54,185 northern Florida or central Florida. 686 00:28:54,415 --> 00:28:58,305 Yeah. Uh, there'll be, there'll be a few, uh, the, uh, uh, 687 00:28:58,895 --> 00:29:00,945 most likely people will hear 'em if they're lucky, 688 00:29:00,965 --> 00:29:02,785 if they're lucky enough to be in the middle of this thing. 689 00:29:02,785 --> 00:29:04,625 It's like, it's like a David Attenborough 690 00:29:04,625 --> 00:29:05,825 special in your backyard. 691 00:29:06,365 --> 00:29:08,505 Uh, you know, and these things emerge. It's just amazing. 692 00:29:08,965 --> 00:29:10,945 Uh, they come, they, they, the NIMS crawl out 693 00:29:10,945 --> 00:29:11,985 of these holes in the ground 694 00:29:12,445 --> 00:29:14,065 and they find a vertical surface. 695 00:29:14,165 --> 00:29:16,505 And I've seen 'em do this on trees, on brick walls, 696 00:29:16,645 --> 00:29:17,825 on fences, on tires. 697 00:29:18,285 --> 00:29:19,705 And they slowly climb up, 698 00:29:19,705 --> 00:29:21,305 and then they'll go through the process of shedding their 699 00:29:21,305 --> 00:29:23,385 skin, just getting outta the shell, takes an hour 700 00:29:23,385 --> 00:29:26,065 and a half, and then they're, so, they're all white, 701 00:29:26,065 --> 00:29:27,625 but their wings, look, they look like normal skate, 702 00:29:27,625 --> 00:29:29,305 but just all white, and then takes another hour 703 00:29:29,305 --> 00:29:30,665 and a half for them to turn dark 704 00:29:30,925 --> 00:29:32,265 as they darken their exoskeleton. 705 00:29:32,765 --> 00:29:35,665 And so it's a slow, gradual process. 706 00:29:36,485 --> 00:29:39,065 And, uh, uh, it, it's, uh, you know, if you're lucky 707 00:29:39,065 --> 00:29:40,905 to be there and your, and you got your grandkids 708 00:29:40,905 --> 00:29:43,685 or your kids, get out there, get a flashlight, watch this, 709 00:29:43,825 --> 00:29:45,285 you got the limited peripheral vision. 710 00:29:45,705 --> 00:29:47,925 And it's, it's, it's engrossing. 711 00:29:48,265 --> 00:29:51,365 Uh, I've often said periodical scada are the gateway drugs 712 00:29:51,425 --> 00:29:53,325 to natural history for kids . 713 00:29:53,705 --> 00:29:57,085 And so if they're, if they're lucky to, to enjoy this 714 00:29:57,105 --> 00:29:59,685 and see this, they will never forget it. 715 00:30:00,305 --> 00:30:01,965 - Uh, that's awesome. - I've had conversations with, 716 00:30:01,965 --> 00:30:06,245 with people who, uh, remembered the 1936 emergence, 717 00:30:06,345 --> 00:30:08,445 and they talk about what happened to this as a kid. 718 00:30:08,785 --> 00:30:10,645 And then 17 years later, they're married, 719 00:30:10,645 --> 00:30:11,645 they got a daughter of their own, 720 00:30:11,645 --> 00:30:12,805 this woman that was telling me the story. 721 00:30:12,865 --> 00:30:15,765 And then 34 years later, she had granddaughter. 722 00:30:15,775 --> 00:30:16,925 She's showing the cicadas too. 723 00:30:17,205 --> 00:30:18,485 I don't think she's still with us, 724 00:30:19,175 --> 00:30:23,515 but I'll bet dollars to donuts that that family, 725 00:30:23,605 --> 00:30:25,595 every time brewed 10 emerges in sense, 726 00:30:25,905 --> 00:30:28,035 they tell a story about great grandma and grandma 727 00:30:28,495 --> 00:30:29,635 and their great uncle. 728 00:30:30,175 --> 00:30:32,595 - Oh, well, I'm sure many of us will be doing this, 729 00:30:32,595 --> 00:30:36,155 and we will have a whole new appreciation of this Dr. 730 00:30:36,475 --> 00:30:39,595 Christie, because of your enthusiasm and your expertise. 731 00:30:39,825 --> 00:30:42,315 Well, I wanna thank you so much. Certainly, 732 00:30:42,315 --> 00:30:43,635 - And I hope your, I hope your list, 733 00:30:43,715 --> 00:30:45,395 I hope your listeners will get Cicada Safari 734 00:30:45,395 --> 00:30:47,075 and help us map 'em, map, map 735 00:30:47,075 --> 00:30:48,075 where they are when they encounter 736 00:30:48,155 --> 00:30:49,075 'em. That'd be very helpful. Yeah. 737 00:30:49,075 --> 00:30:51,395 - Is a place they should go to report all of this stuff. 738 00:30:51,395 --> 00:30:52,395 And we'll put a link. 739 00:30:53,415 --> 00:30:55,115 - Cicada Safari is a free app. 740 00:30:55,455 --> 00:30:58,075 Uh, we don't tell, give any data to anything else. 741 00:30:58,075 --> 00:31:00,035 We just ask people to download the app. 742 00:31:00,375 --> 00:31:02,435 Uh, find cicada, periodical, cicadas, 743 00:31:02,505 --> 00:31:04,715 take their turn out their locations, services 744 00:31:04,815 --> 00:31:06,115 or GPS on their phone, 745 00:31:06,495 --> 00:31:08,395 and they submit, it goes right to the app. 746 00:31:08,535 --> 00:31:10,795 And if it's verified as a cicada goes live on the app. 747 00:31:10,795 --> 00:31:12,795 So you can, if, if people wanna see where they are, 748 00:31:13,465 --> 00:31:14,595 just get Cicada Sari. 749 00:31:14,595 --> 00:31:15,635 There's a live map of 750 00:31:15,635 --> 00:31:17,915 where people have been reporting cicadas on there, and it's, 751 00:31:17,975 --> 00:31:18,835 - And the link is set. It, 752 00:31:18,935 --> 00:31:21,755 - Uh, that's the, uh, cicada safari.org is the website. 753 00:31:21,985 --> 00:31:24,715 Okay. And the Cicada Safari app is available at the app, 754 00:31:24,735 --> 00:31:26,995 at the Apple App Store or Google Play. 755 00:31:27,455 --> 00:31:30,995 - We will, we will. I, I will get it on mine before, uh, 756 00:31:31,215 --> 00:31:33,155 before I, uh, process the interview. 757 00:31:33,295 --> 00:31:36,355 So thank you, Dr. Kisky. You've been a delight to interview. 758 00:31:36,355 --> 00:31:40,245 Thank, happy cicada hunting. . Thank you. Well, 759 00:31:40,245 --> 00:31:42,645 - Do you think we're gonna need, uh, boots to 760 00:31:43,365 --> 00:31:44,525 navigate those cicadas? 761 00:31:45,045 --> 00:31:46,685 - I don't know, but it sounds like there's gonna be some 762 00:31:46,705 --> 00:31:49,085 mighty good eat out there For critters that like 763 00:31:49,085 --> 00:31:50,085 to eat cicadas, 764 00:31:50,385 --> 00:31:54,085 - Snakes, skunks, possums, raccoons, uh, 765 00:31:54,395 --> 00:31:57,285 they're all gonna be gorged, and cicadas. 766 00:31:57,285 --> 00:31:59,445 They say. 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And 800 00:33:41,685 --> 00:33:43,725 - They did this apparently in front of their kids. 801 00:33:44,505 --> 00:33:46,685 Um, there, there's a viral video. 802 00:33:46,865 --> 00:33:50,485 The men can be seen standing on the side of a cliff pushing 803 00:33:51,255 --> 00:33:53,725 rocks out of this federally protected area, 804 00:33:53,725 --> 00:33:55,325 setting them tumbling below. 805 00:33:56,065 --> 00:33:59,005 And as they push and shove a panic sounding little girl 806 00:33:59,005 --> 00:34:01,285 watches and screams, daddy don't fall. 807 00:34:02,425 --> 00:34:04,925 - And the appalling vandalism happened the evening 808 00:34:05,065 --> 00:34:08,125 of April 7th along Redstone Dunes Trail. 809 00:34:08,635 --> 00:34:12,365 Lake Meads National Recreation Area is a massive one 810 00:34:12,365 --> 00:34:15,085 and a half million acre park in Nevada 811 00:34:15,555 --> 00:34:18,205 with about 6 million visitors each year. Let's 812 00:34:18,205 --> 00:34:19,485 - Hope these guys are caught 813 00:34:19,745 --> 00:34:21,325 and, um, we'll be glad 814 00:34:21,325 --> 00:34:22,805 to tell you about that when that happens. 815 00:34:23,985 --> 00:34:25,725 - And our next story, a full-time, 816 00:34:25,875 --> 00:34:30,325 Arizona Couple are left homeless after filing for bankruptcy 817 00:34:30,365 --> 00:34:33,925 because the court says the RV homes are not protected under 818 00:34:33,995 --> 00:34:35,325 homestead exemptions. 819 00:34:36,105 --> 00:34:39,045 - Now, this Arizona couple were full-timers, 820 00:34:39,665 --> 00:34:40,925 and they ended up homeless 821 00:34:40,955 --> 00:34:43,525 because, um, they filed for bankruptcy 822 00:34:44,065 --> 00:34:47,645 and their RV did not count as a home. 823 00:34:48,025 --> 00:34:51,845 The couple, Steven and Mary Drummond lived in a 2017 Tiffin. 824 00:34:52,305 --> 00:34:55,805 Uh, they moved into it in 2018 when they bought it, 825 00:34:56,025 --> 00:34:59,285 and, uh, when they filed for bankruptcy in 2022. 826 00:34:59,905 --> 00:35:02,285 - Now, under Arizona's homestead exemption, 827 00:35:02,555 --> 00:35:04,485 when a person files for bankruptcy, 828 00:35:04,855 --> 00:35:08,725 there home is exempt from seizure up 829 00:35:08,725 --> 00:35:10,125 to a certain dollar amount 830 00:35:10,185 --> 00:35:12,645 to protect the filers from becoming homeless. 831 00:35:13,115 --> 00:35:15,325 - When the Drummonds filed for bankruptcy, 832 00:35:15,325 --> 00:35:18,805 they had a 2012 car, and they're tiffin 833 00:35:18,805 --> 00:35:22,805 because they had sold everything to travel, but both the car 834 00:35:22,805 --> 00:35:25,285 and the RV were seized by creditors. 835 00:35:25,285 --> 00:35:28,125 And that's left them now without a place to 836 00:35:28,125 --> 00:35:29,125 - Live. 837 00:35:29,125 --> 00:35:30,525 And if they had kept their sticks 838 00:35:30,625 --> 00:35:33,725 and bricks, creditors would not have been permitted 839 00:35:33,725 --> 00:35:36,725 to take their home under the state's home, home 840 00:35:37,435 --> 00:35:38,685 Homestead exemption 841 00:35:39,185 --> 00:35:41,685 and the couple's story certainly gives everybody 842 00:35:42,085 --> 00:35:45,485 consideration about selling everything and hitting the road. 843 00:35:46,025 --> 00:35:47,445 You know, it gives you something to think about 844 00:35:47,555 --> 00:35:50,245 - Because as wonderful as full-time travel can be, 845 00:35:50,245 --> 00:35:51,445 things do happen. 846 00:35:52,305 --> 00:35:54,925 And um, man, that's, that's pretty sad. Very sad. 847 00:35:55,115 --> 00:35:57,245 Lots of things to think about in, uh, 848 00:35:57,705 --> 00:35:59,925 before you become a full timer. 849 00:36:00,905 --> 00:36:03,725 Uh, alright. Plan now for free entry 850 00:36:04,065 --> 00:36:06,485 to all national parks this Saturday. 851 00:36:07,305 --> 00:36:09,445 - And if you're near a National park this Saturday, 852 00:36:09,735 --> 00:36:11,845 April 20th, you can enter for free 853 00:36:11,985 --> 00:36:14,125 to kick off National Park Week. 854 00:36:14,965 --> 00:36:18,125 - National Park Week is a nine day celebration 855 00:36:18,345 --> 00:36:19,725 of all things parks 856 00:36:20,265 --> 00:36:22,165 and national parks throughout the country. 857 00:36:22,695 --> 00:36:23,965 It'll be free on Saturday, 858 00:36:24,185 --> 00:36:26,925 and there'll be special activities through April 28th. 859 00:36:26,945 --> 00:36:28,405 The every day will have a theme. 860 00:36:29,025 --> 00:36:32,085 Uh, you can find all those different themes, uh, uh, 861 00:36:32,085 --> 00:36:33,085 when you get to the park, 862 00:36:33,085 --> 00:36:34,525 they'll tell you what they're out there. 863 00:36:34,585 --> 00:36:37,965 But from Junior Rangers to volunteer appreciation 864 00:36:38,105 --> 00:36:42,125 to Arts in the Parks, um, we'll put a link in the show notes 865 00:36:42,145 --> 00:36:45,245 for this episode, uh, RV lifestyle.com/podcast. 866 00:36:45,585 --> 00:36:47,285 And you can see all the things happening. 867 00:36:47,945 --> 00:36:51,805 - Now, there are six free National Park admission days this 868 00:36:51,805 --> 00:36:54,725 year with the next one being June 19th. 869 00:36:54,905 --> 00:36:56,365 So circle that on your calendar. 870 00:36:56,905 --> 00:37:00,245 And if you're looking for a national park that made our list 871 00:37:00,305 --> 00:37:03,045 as a favorite for our viewers, we'll let you know. 872 00:37:03,235 --> 00:37:05,165 - Just look into the description below. 873 00:37:05,165 --> 00:37:06,365 We'll put a link to it 874 00:37:06,545 --> 00:37:11,285 and, uh, you'll find it in, uh, RV lifestyle.com/podcast. 875 00:37:12,385 --> 00:37:14,885 - Now, Washington State is considering a plan 876 00:37:14,885 --> 00:37:18,045 to raise all campsite fees for 2025. 877 00:37:18,715 --> 00:37:21,085 Camping at a state park in Washington is likely 878 00:37:21,185 --> 00:37:23,205 to cost more in 2025. 879 00:37:23,785 --> 00:37:25,325 As the Washington State Parks 880 00:37:25,345 --> 00:37:28,285 and Recreation Commission is considering a price increase 881 00:37:28,785 --> 00:37:30,285 to keep up with inflation 882 00:37:30,935 --> 00:37:32,165 - Under that proposal. 883 00:37:32,345 --> 00:37:35,565 The cost of a basic standard campsite in season 884 00:37:36,465 --> 00:37:39,125 and a basic site is no water, no electric 885 00:37:39,125 --> 00:37:43,765 or sewer would go from $32 to $37 a night. 886 00:37:44,305 --> 00:37:48,485 - And a full utility campsite at a popular spot in season 887 00:37:48,895 --> 00:37:52,485 would rise from $50 a night to $56 a night. 888 00:37:53,185 --> 00:37:55,565 And when it's off season, it'll be less. 889 00:37:56,265 --> 00:37:58,765 But, uh, the most, the prices would increase 890 00:37:59,685 --> 00:38:01,325 whatever season is $6 per night. 891 00:38:01,815 --> 00:38:05,925 - Washington has about 6,400 campsites prices were last 892 00:38:06,035 --> 00:38:09,805 updated in 2020, and they're part of a growing trend. 893 00:38:09,805 --> 00:38:11,085 We're seeing this all around the country, 894 00:38:11,085 --> 00:38:12,725 different state parks 895 00:38:12,725 --> 00:38:15,165 and the different states up in their camping rates. 896 00:38:15,875 --> 00:38:19,165 When we return, we have the RV questions of the week. 897 00:38:19,225 --> 00:38:22,205 So stay with us when we're asked. 898 00:38:22,205 --> 00:38:25,605 What's the most important modification we made to our rv? 899 00:38:25,835 --> 00:38:28,965 It's an easy answer. Battle borne batteries. 900 00:38:28,965 --> 00:38:32,925 Battle borne batteries are quality, safe, reliable lithium 901 00:38:33,485 --> 00:38:34,885 batteries that allow us 902 00:38:35,225 --> 00:38:38,005 to stay out there off the grid longer. 903 00:38:38,515 --> 00:38:40,245 Lithium batteries charge faster. 904 00:38:40,475 --> 00:38:42,725 They charge fuller, they're longer lasting, 905 00:38:42,725 --> 00:38:43,725 they're maintenance free. 906 00:38:44,065 --> 00:38:46,485 And battle borne batteries are protected 907 00:38:46,505 --> 00:38:48,765 by a 10 year guarantee. 908 00:38:49,385 --> 00:38:53,525 Now in our case, they just dropped into the existing a GM 909 00:38:53,845 --> 00:38:56,125 batteries that we have, and they'll probably be the 910 00:38:56,125 --> 00:38:57,245 same on your rig too. 911 00:38:57,625 --> 00:39:01,205 Battle borne battery experts can get those in your rig, 912 00:39:01,235 --> 00:39:02,885 just like they did with ours. 913 00:39:02,885 --> 00:39:04,965 They can also match you up with the right cabling, 914 00:39:04,985 --> 00:39:07,845 the inverter, the charger, the solar controller, everything. 915 00:39:08,685 --> 00:39:11,765 Jennifer and I swear by our battle borne batteries, 916 00:39:11,835 --> 00:39:14,845 they allow us to boondock off the grid. 917 00:39:15,095 --> 00:39:16,285 Check 'em out. Go 918 00:39:16,285 --> 00:39:19,525 to rv lifestyle.com/lithium rv 919 00:39:19,525 --> 00:39:21,725 lifestyle.com/lithium. 920 00:39:23,825 --> 00:39:25,235 Welcome back, everybody. 921 00:39:25,305 --> 00:39:28,435 Time now for the RV questions of the week. 922 00:39:28,535 --> 00:39:30,075 And before we take, uh, 923 00:39:30,095 --> 00:39:31,875 the two questions we're gonna answer this week, 924 00:39:32,035 --> 00:39:34,515 I wanna remind you that we love to get your comments 925 00:39:34,815 --> 00:39:36,955 and your questions, and you can reach us 926 00:39:36,955 --> 00:39:38,115 through our private email. 927 00:39:38,535 --> 00:39:42,435 And that is Mike and jen@rvlifestyle.com. 928 00:39:43,035 --> 00:39:45,795 - Question number one, generally when I book a site, 929 00:39:45,955 --> 00:39:48,515 I book the night before and the night 930 00:39:48,515 --> 00:39:50,475 after my length of stay. 931 00:39:50,985 --> 00:39:54,075 What I'm saying is, if I'm going to stay nine nights, 932 00:39:54,075 --> 00:39:57,635 beginning on a Friday, I'll book Thursday night so 933 00:39:57,635 --> 00:39:58,875 that the site is mine. 934 00:39:59,545 --> 00:40:01,355 That way I can get into, 935 00:40:01,425 --> 00:40:03,755 into the campground early on Friday. 936 00:40:04,225 --> 00:40:07,595 Then on the tail end of the stay, I book an extra night 937 00:40:07,615 --> 00:40:10,235 so I don't have to get caught up in the rush 938 00:40:10,815 --> 00:40:12,355 of people checking out. 939 00:40:13,275 --> 00:40:16,475 I do a later checkout. I pay for those nights. 940 00:40:16,775 --> 00:40:18,155 The site is just empty. 941 00:40:18,835 --> 00:40:20,355 I do let the campground know 942 00:40:20,465 --> 00:40:22,155 that I won't be there the final night, 943 00:40:22,575 --> 00:40:24,915 but they've told me that they can't book 944 00:40:24,915 --> 00:40:26,035 it because it's mine. 945 00:40:26,995 --> 00:40:29,995 Ultimately. Is that wrong if I'm not there on those two 946 00:40:29,995 --> 00:40:31,675 nights, even though I paid for them? 947 00:40:32,505 --> 00:40:34,155 Also, it should be noted that most 948 00:40:34,155 --> 00:40:37,275 of my camping is on private campgrounds, 949 00:40:37,415 --> 00:40:38,715 and this is from Brad. 950 00:40:39,385 --> 00:40:41,395 - Well, I I don't think that there's a 951 00:40:42,085 --> 00:40:45,235 gonna be a clear consensus on this, Brad, that, uh, 952 00:40:45,475 --> 00:40:46,675 I understand your reasoning. 953 00:40:46,795 --> 00:40:48,635 I think a lot of people will agree with you, 954 00:40:49,375 --> 00:40:50,795 but I think a lot of 'em will not. 955 00:40:50,975 --> 00:40:55,115 And I'm one of those who do think that this is wrong, um, 956 00:40:55,225 --> 00:40:57,555 that that borders on being selfish 957 00:40:58,265 --> 00:41:01,155 because you're tying up spots that others could use 958 00:41:01,455 --> 00:41:04,755 and enjoy, even though you know you're not gonna 959 00:41:04,755 --> 00:41:05,795 be on that campsite. 960 00:41:06,395 --> 00:41:08,195 I mean, you said to yourself that you tell the park, 961 00:41:08,195 --> 00:41:09,235 yeah, I'm not gonna be there. 962 00:41:09,415 --> 00:41:11,875 Uh, the, the, the last night that you book 963 00:41:11,895 --> 00:41:15,155 and pay for, well, and they explained to you that 964 00:41:15,155 --> 00:41:17,835 because you have technically leased that site, 965 00:41:17,835 --> 00:41:20,195 they can't rent it out to somebody who could use it. 966 00:41:21,135 --> 00:41:24,315 So it, it's hard to get a campsite, Brad. 967 00:41:24,375 --> 00:41:26,355 And some people only have limited times 968 00:41:26,385 --> 00:41:27,395 when they can get away. 969 00:41:27,765 --> 00:41:29,595 Oftentimes you'll find them making, 970 00:41:29,895 --> 00:41:31,035 uh, different arrangements. 971 00:41:31,035 --> 00:41:34,565 Maybe they, they can get one for, uh, Friday and Saturday, 972 00:41:34,785 --> 00:41:37,165 but, uh, to get one on Thursday, 973 00:41:37,165 --> 00:41:39,165 they gotta go book a different night. 974 00:41:39,785 --> 00:41:42,405 And if you've got that tied up on Friday, on Thursday, 975 00:41:42,405 --> 00:41:44,445 they can't get in and there goes their 976 00:41:44,445 --> 00:41:45,645 whole plan for that weekend. 977 00:41:46,465 --> 00:41:48,205 So I just don't think it's a very 978 00:41:48,525 --> 00:41:49,725 considerate practice for others. 979 00:41:49,755 --> 00:41:51,445 It's very convenient for you, 980 00:41:52,185 --> 00:41:54,405 but I don't think it's very con considerate. 981 00:41:54,785 --> 00:41:57,845 - Now, something that I see going on here is 982 00:41:57,845 --> 00:42:01,005 that this isn't a national park or a state park 983 00:42:01,065 --> 00:42:03,965 or a county park, I would say absolutely no, 984 00:42:04,175 --> 00:42:05,205 - Don't do it on. No, sure, 985 00:42:05,205 --> 00:42:06,205 - Don't do. 986 00:42:06,205 --> 00:42:07,405 Sure don't. But you're saying it's a private campground. 987 00:42:08,505 --> 00:42:11,085 So it seems to me like at a private campground, 988 00:42:11,105 --> 00:42:12,925 if somebody came in late at night, 989 00:42:12,925 --> 00:42:14,565 they could rent out that spot. 990 00:42:15,385 --> 00:42:18,565 But I don't know, it, it's, uh, it's thin ice. 991 00:42:18,915 --> 00:42:22,565 - Well, anyway, I don't think it's, it's a good practice 992 00:42:22,565 --> 00:42:24,245 and it's not very considerate of others. 993 00:42:24,385 --> 00:42:27,525 But, um, you ask, don't be mad at me. That's my answer. 994 00:42:27,985 --> 00:42:31,125 We are all entitled to different opinions here, right? Okay. 995 00:42:31,885 --> 00:42:34,565 I hope , I hate to make anybody mad and, you know, 996 00:42:34,665 --> 00:42:36,645 but, um, I do understand your reasoning, 997 00:42:36,645 --> 00:42:38,325 but I just don't think that's a good practice. 998 00:42:38,745 --> 00:42:42,325 - Now the second question is when I've thought about bar 999 00:42:42,345 --> 00:42:45,685 of soap or shower gel, and this question is, my husband 1000 00:42:45,865 --> 00:42:47,765 and I sold our house in October 1001 00:42:47,865 --> 00:42:52,605 and moved into our fifth wheel as a stop gag while we plan 1002 00:42:52,625 --> 00:42:54,765 and build a new home a few hours away. 1003 00:42:55,255 --> 00:42:57,685 We've been in the fifth wheel for almost six months. 1004 00:42:58,105 --> 00:43:00,645 And tonight he asked me to find a bar of soap 1005 00:43:00,645 --> 00:43:02,885 that he can use in the shower he hates. 1006 00:43:03,545 --> 00:43:06,445 That's a double hate liquid body wash. 1007 00:43:06,965 --> 00:43:10,765 I read somewhere that bar soap is bad in RVs, 1008 00:43:11,105 --> 00:43:12,685 but can't find any information. 1009 00:43:13,445 --> 00:43:14,925 I prefer liquid body wash, 1010 00:43:15,465 --> 00:43:19,685 but wanted to see if there's a bar soap he can use here. 1011 00:43:20,065 --> 00:43:23,285 Any advice is so appreciated. And this is from Linda. 1012 00:43:23,875 --> 00:43:25,645 - Well, I'm with your husband Linda. 1013 00:43:25,805 --> 00:43:29,565 I hate liquid soap too, and I always use bar soap. 1014 00:43:30,385 --> 00:43:32,605 And, um, I don't know if there's a real right 1015 00:43:32,665 --> 00:43:35,605 or wrong answer, but it seems to stack up 1016 00:43:35,605 --> 00:43:37,725 that a bar soap is probably a little better. 1017 00:43:37,865 --> 00:43:40,565 Uh, a quick internet search says that as far 1018 00:43:40,565 --> 00:43:42,605 as cleaning action goes, uh, 1019 00:43:43,185 --> 00:43:45,445 it really doesn't make any difference between a bar 1020 00:43:45,545 --> 00:43:48,605 and liquid, but from an environmental point of view, 1021 00:43:48,605 --> 00:43:50,485 and we're coming on to Earth Day next week, 1022 00:43:50,905 --> 00:43:54,845 but from an environmental point of view, bar soap winds, uh, 1023 00:43:54,865 --> 00:43:57,285 the liquid version requires a plastic bottle. 1024 00:43:57,425 --> 00:44:00,165 And that takes more energy to produce than the wrapping 1025 00:44:00,165 --> 00:44:01,485 of a bar of soap. 1026 00:44:02,235 --> 00:44:05,525 Plus a bar of soap on average lasts six times 1027 00:44:06,065 --> 00:44:08,445 longer than its liquid counterpart. 1028 00:44:09,305 --> 00:44:11,765 So that's my opinion. And again, I don't know, 1029 00:44:11,835 --> 00:44:13,405 what does Jennifer say? Well, 1030 00:44:13,485 --> 00:44:14,805 - I don't know if this is true or not, 1031 00:44:14,825 --> 00:44:18,085 but I heard this, that liquid soap is good to use 1032 00:44:18,285 --> 00:44:21,365 'cause it doesn't clinging to the walls of the shower, 1033 00:44:21,475 --> 00:44:24,205 whereas a bar of soap makes more scum. 1034 00:44:24,435 --> 00:44:25,445 - Yeah, a soap scum. 1035 00:44:25,955 --> 00:44:28,285 - Yeah. That, uh, it's more work to get off. 1036 00:44:28,425 --> 00:44:30,285 It clings to everything. Coats it. 1037 00:44:30,285 --> 00:44:32,140 You know what that's like, like when everything gets covered 1038 00:44:32,140 --> 00:44:34,485 with that scum, and I heard that, 1039 00:44:34,905 --> 00:44:36,325 but I don't know if it's the truth. 1040 00:44:36,745 --> 00:44:38,805 - Um, uh, it, it probably is. 1041 00:44:38,985 --> 00:44:41,325 So bottom line is, it's a toss up. 1042 00:44:41,785 --> 00:44:43,445 You let your husband use the bar soap 1043 00:44:43,445 --> 00:44:44,725 and you can use the liquid soap. 1044 00:44:44,725 --> 00:44:46,365 And we got two happy campers. Hey. 1045 00:44:46,365 --> 00:44:47,365 - And he can clean the shower 1046 00:44:48,365 --> 00:44:49,365 - . 1047 00:44:49,365 --> 00:44:51,725 Yes. He can clean the shower. There you go. All right. 1048 00:44:51,735 --> 00:44:54,165 Again, don't forget, we wanna get your questions, Mike 1049 00:44:54,185 --> 00:44:56,605 and jen@rvlifestyle.com. 1050 00:44:56,945 --> 00:45:00,005 Hey, we're usually a lot more talkative and more fun, 1051 00:45:00,185 --> 00:45:02,245 but, um, believe it or not, just tired 1052 00:45:02,245 --> 00:45:04,325 or so, so we're gonna, we're gonna go. I, I feel 1053 00:45:04,325 --> 00:45:05,645 - Like I'm fun, . 1054 00:45:07,705 --> 00:45:10,325 - All right. Hey, we will be back next week 1055 00:45:10,585 --> 00:45:13,085 and, uh, we can't wait to, uh, to have you with us. 1056 00:45:13,545 --> 00:45:16,245 So stay with us, uh, on the blog, on the podcast, 1057 00:45:16,505 --> 00:45:18,445 on our RV Lifestyle community. 1058 00:45:18,785 --> 00:45:20,925 And don't forget, uh, our YouTube channel, 1059 00:45:21,225 --> 00:45:22,965 RV Lifestyle, the YouTube channel. 1060 00:45:22,965 --> 00:45:24,245 Would love to see you there as well. 1061 00:45:24,505 --> 00:45:26,845 Thanks for watching and listening to the podcast. 1062 00:45:27,455 --> 00:45:28,285 - Happy trails.