1 00:00:02,499 --> 00:00:05,062 You're listening to the running around Charlotte podcast 2 00:00:05,276 --> 00:00:07,180 presented by the Health Charlotte Marathon. 3 00:00:07,673 --> 00:00:09,903 1 day 5 events with a race day 4 00:00:09,903 --> 00:00:12,531 distance for every goal and pace. Find out 5 00:00:12,531 --> 00:00:15,239 more or register at run charlotte dot com. 6 00:00:16,767 --> 00:00:18,677 The running around Charlotte Podcast is brought to 7 00:00:18,677 --> 00:00:21,382 you by our partners at Nova Health Orthopedic. 8 00:00:21,939 --> 00:00:23,690 Runners like you are always on the move. 9 00:00:24,023 --> 00:00:26,171 Twisted ankles and broken bones can't wait, and 10 00:00:26,171 --> 00:00:28,559 neither should you. Nova Health offers walk in 11 00:00:28,559 --> 00:00:30,946 appointments and same day care at select orthopedic 12 00:00:30,946 --> 00:00:32,776 clinics to help you get back on pace. 13 00:00:33,348 --> 00:00:36,054 Visit nova health dot org slash ortho now 14 00:00:36,054 --> 00:00:36,771 to learn more. 15 00:00:37,646 --> 00:00:39,238 Now, here are your hosts for the running 16 00:00:39,238 --> 00:00:40,193 around Charlotte podcast, 17 00:00:40,750 --> 00:00:42,661 Tim Rhodes and Dc casey. 18 00:00:45,947 --> 00:00:47,623 Head to the start of most any event, 19 00:00:47,783 --> 00:00:50,017 pop into most any running shop or join 20 00:00:50,017 --> 00:00:52,027 in on more and more club runs, and 21 00:00:52,027 --> 00:00:55,457 you'll see more faces, and paces, sizes, colors 22 00:00:55,457 --> 00:00:58,328 and shapes of runners than ever before. That's 23 00:00:58,328 --> 00:01:00,243 a beautiful thing for the running community and 24 00:01:00,243 --> 00:01:01,255 for runners themselves 25 00:01:01,851 --> 00:01:04,341 running has never been a more diverse universe, 26 00:01:04,876 --> 00:01:07,025 and there's plenty of room to grow. People 27 00:01:07,025 --> 00:01:09,333 of color make up an amazing 40 percent 28 00:01:09,333 --> 00:01:11,060 of runners in the fast growing 29 00:01:11,499 --> 00:01:13,736 18 to 24 age group. I'm gonna repeat 30 00:01:13,736 --> 00:01:14,695 that because that's important. 31 00:01:15,334 --> 00:01:17,912 40 percent of runners in the fast growing 32 00:01:18,051 --> 00:01:19,010 18 to 24, 33 00:01:19,504 --> 00:01:21,737 age group are now people of color. This 34 00:01:21,737 --> 00:01:22,875 is an exciting 35 00:01:23,572 --> 00:01:26,044 trend for running, of course, but also for 36 00:01:26,044 --> 00:01:28,357 folks who can now see that the running 37 00:01:28,357 --> 00:01:29,568 community is for them 2. 38 00:01:30,681 --> 00:01:31,953 Like us and I'll get to the end 39 00:01:31,953 --> 00:01:32,669 of this in a minute. 40 00:01:34,339 --> 00:01:37,202 He's long intro, man. Like us, our next 41 00:01:37,202 --> 00:01:39,245 guest on the show has seen that change 42 00:01:39,365 --> 00:01:41,685 first hand here in Charlotte and the local 43 00:01:41,685 --> 00:01:42,245 running scene. 44 00:01:42,885 --> 00:01:46,165 And we... He's helping welcome new runners into 45 00:01:46,165 --> 00:01:48,919 the community as a Nova health Charlotte marathon 46 00:01:49,059 --> 00:01:50,977 ambassador. His name is Darius Moore. 47 00:01:52,175 --> 00:01:54,333 You probably know him. And if you don't 48 00:01:54,333 --> 00:01:56,411 know them, you've probably seen him around Darius 49 00:01:56,411 --> 00:01:57,770 welcome to the show. How are you doing? 50 00:02:00,007 --> 00:02:00,880 Doing great guys. 51 00:02:01,832 --> 00:02:03,339 Appreciate. That was a great intro by the 52 00:02:03,339 --> 00:02:05,956 way. Well, it's it's the longest. So you've 53 00:02:05,956 --> 00:02:08,200 got a record now for the longest intro 54 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,828 on the running around trail podcast. Well deserved 55 00:02:10,828 --> 00:02:13,058 that we're all time. Yeah. Well engineer. 56 00:02:13,695 --> 00:02:14,730 Thank you. Thank you. 57 00:02:15,619 --> 00:02:17,527 Like, I I'm not saying drew. I'm not 58 00:02:17,527 --> 00:02:19,060 saying you're old, but 59 00:02:19,593 --> 00:02:21,977 but you're old you're even. No. But you're... 60 00:02:22,136 --> 00:02:23,566 But you're because I mean, Tim and I 61 00:02:23,566 --> 00:02:26,372 old. But you're Og Charlotte running, man. And 62 00:02:26,372 --> 00:02:27,728 if people don't know you yet. 63 00:02:29,004 --> 00:02:31,397 It's like. They will. Right at some point. 64 00:02:31,716 --> 00:02:33,471 So for for both of our list I'm 65 00:02:33,471 --> 00:02:35,394 meet them. Exactly for both of our listeners 66 00:02:35,394 --> 00:02:36,903 who don't know you yet. Go ahead and 67 00:02:36,903 --> 00:02:37,936 tell us who you are and what you're 68 00:02:37,936 --> 00:02:38,413 up to man. 69 00:02:39,525 --> 00:02:40,160 Absolutely, man. 70 00:02:40,955 --> 00:02:43,367 Right first off, I'm a avid runner. I 71 00:02:43,367 --> 00:02:46,483 love what the community of running. I've been... 72 00:02:47,282 --> 00:02:49,933 I'd say affiliated with the community about, 14, 73 00:02:50,252 --> 00:02:50,970 15 years now. 74 00:02:52,007 --> 00:02:54,240 First got started working with tim at room 75 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:55,538 for your life. And 76 00:02:55,995 --> 00:02:57,670 I first met tim. I think at 1 77 00:02:57,670 --> 00:02:59,127 of his races, and 78 00:02:59,917 --> 00:03:02,146 I just wanted to learn, like, about the 79 00:03:02,146 --> 00:03:04,374 industry and, like, what tools to use and 80 00:03:04,613 --> 00:03:06,443 he was a great resource in that regard, 81 00:03:06,603 --> 00:03:07,103 and 82 00:03:07,414 --> 00:03:09,331 we were able to, grow some stores and 83 00:03:09,331 --> 00:03:11,169 do some great things together, And then I've 84 00:03:11,169 --> 00:03:13,027 also, worked with Crc, 85 00:03:13,645 --> 00:03:14,145 and 86 00:03:14,459 --> 00:03:15,976 they've been great over there and, you know, 87 00:03:16,056 --> 00:03:16,934 they're growing as well. 88 00:03:18,690 --> 00:03:21,244 So kind from that standpoint, I've coached cross 89 00:03:21,244 --> 00:03:24,688 country, high school, middle school, I teach full 90 00:03:24,688 --> 00:03:25,962 time middle school now. 91 00:03:27,554 --> 00:03:29,704 So doing that, and I go to tons 92 00:03:29,704 --> 00:03:31,535 of run clubs. I remember when 93 00:03:32,107 --> 00:03:34,334 Not brewery had the only run Club in 94 00:03:34,493 --> 00:03:35,527 Charlotte, and we were like. 95 00:03:36,402 --> 00:03:39,913 Wow. Gosh. It was in saying. And I 96 00:03:39,913 --> 00:03:41,738 remember being there, like, just represent Run for 97 00:03:41,738 --> 00:03:43,245 your life I would set up a table. 98 00:03:43,641 --> 00:03:45,624 You know, we market the races, market the 99 00:03:45,624 --> 00:03:46,680 products and 100 00:03:46,988 --> 00:03:48,656 we go run, and it was like a 101 00:03:48,656 --> 00:03:51,197 race every Wednesday because of the numbers. Like, 102 00:03:51,277 --> 00:03:53,421 it would look like 2 300 people sometimes 103 00:03:53,421 --> 00:03:54,533 it's tiny little... 104 00:03:55,342 --> 00:03:57,168 Water and hole right there on a og 105 00:03:57,168 --> 00:03:57,644 g note. 106 00:03:58,676 --> 00:04:01,136 And to now see, what is blossom into 107 00:04:01,136 --> 00:04:03,534 is, like, you've got you know, numbers like 108 00:04:03,534 --> 00:04:05,682 mad miles on Tuesdays, their numbers 109 00:04:06,955 --> 00:04:08,943 phenomenal every single week. You've got 110 00:04:09,580 --> 00:04:11,902 you wooden robot on Tuesdays, which is great 111 00:04:11,902 --> 00:04:13,414 in South end. And I've seen them blow 112 00:04:13,414 --> 00:04:16,120 up and great things over there. And then 113 00:04:17,075 --> 00:04:18,959 I'm just seeing a community blow up from 114 00:04:19,159 --> 00:04:21,311 Last say, the past 14, 15 years is 115 00:04:21,311 --> 00:04:22,187 it's been outstanding. 116 00:04:23,064 --> 00:04:26,093 That's amazing. Yeah. I mean, it's. And and 117 00:04:26,093 --> 00:04:26,651 and there are. 118 00:04:27,303 --> 00:04:28,973 Like, if if you can't find a group 119 00:04:28,973 --> 00:04:31,439 to run with in Charlotte, you Nathan. Oh, 120 00:04:31,598 --> 00:04:31,678 yeah. 121 00:04:32,712 --> 00:04:33,928 They are every 122 00:04:34,397 --> 00:04:36,224 Right? Every day in the week. Like you 123 00:04:36,224 --> 00:04:38,551 say it used to be just on Wednesdays 124 00:04:38,608 --> 00:04:40,514 and nod. And then there were a couple 125 00:04:40,514 --> 00:04:42,280 more and they were like, yeah, Wednesday is 126 00:04:42,280 --> 00:04:44,351 apparently, a run club day. And then Yep. 127 00:04:44,670 --> 00:04:47,060 Slow not even slowly. It seemed like in 128 00:04:47,060 --> 00:04:48,812 a matter of just a couple of years. 129 00:04:49,768 --> 00:04:52,175 There was 1. Every night, and now there 130 00:04:52,175 --> 00:04:53,153 are multiple 131 00:04:53,770 --> 00:04:56,482 on every night. And now there... And now 132 00:04:56,482 --> 00:04:58,476 they're starting to go, okay. Maybe the night 133 00:04:58,476 --> 00:04:59,991 time is not the only time. Now there 134 00:04:59,991 --> 00:05:01,304 are plenty of morning 135 00:05:01,838 --> 00:05:05,421 running. Yeah. And it's like, wow. Mh. And 136 00:05:05,660 --> 00:05:06,934 I think 1 of the coolest things about 137 00:05:06,934 --> 00:05:08,628 it it's not only 138 00:05:09,019 --> 00:05:10,772 to your point, if you're not... If you 139 00:05:10,772 --> 00:05:12,764 can't find what you're not looking, but the 140 00:05:12,764 --> 00:05:14,141 other point of that is 141 00:05:15,394 --> 00:05:16,213 the number 142 00:05:16,844 --> 00:05:19,501 and size and shape and color and diversity 143 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,117 of folks that are out there at these 144 00:05:22,117 --> 00:05:23,635 run clubs at these races, 145 00:05:24,129 --> 00:05:25,963 at the running stores and all that stuff, 146 00:05:26,362 --> 00:05:29,153 it's really becoming more and more and more 147 00:05:29,153 --> 00:05:31,168 and more reflective of the community 148 00:05:31,545 --> 00:05:33,081 as a whole and not just 149 00:05:33,393 --> 00:05:35,859 what people think the running community looks like. 150 00:05:36,018 --> 00:05:36,177 Right? 151 00:05:37,212 --> 00:05:37,530 Yeah. 152 00:05:38,484 --> 00:05:39,916 Yeah. And that's been fun to see. 153 00:05:40,647 --> 00:05:42,397 Because I do remember, like, once upon a 154 00:05:42,397 --> 00:05:42,954 time before, 155 00:05:43,670 --> 00:05:45,659 you know, we had entities like Black runs, 156 00:05:45,898 --> 00:05:49,277 Yeah. And bad miles and... Run Latinos, and, 157 00:05:49,492 --> 00:05:51,321 you know, the the efforts always there. Like, 158 00:05:51,719 --> 00:05:53,946 I've worked with him on promoting races and 159 00:05:53,946 --> 00:05:56,427 it... And it's never been, like, oh we 160 00:05:56,427 --> 00:05:58,261 only go to certain neighborhoods. Or oh, we 161 00:05:58,261 --> 00:06:00,573 only promote 30 bit. Yeah. Tim has always 162 00:06:00,573 --> 00:06:01,689 been open to us, 163 00:06:02,406 --> 00:06:04,652 going wherever we could fill a need. You 164 00:06:04,652 --> 00:06:06,556 know, if if if if it was going 165 00:06:06,556 --> 00:06:08,697 to bank of America and, you know, setting 166 00:06:08,697 --> 00:06:10,918 up a table. I remember me, an old 167 00:06:10,918 --> 00:06:12,188 manager Justin Ka goliath, 168 00:06:12,759 --> 00:06:14,512 we went to alive at the 5, and 169 00:06:14,512 --> 00:06:16,424 that was, like, basically a big party Yeah. 170 00:06:16,583 --> 00:06:18,974 On the rooftop of the epicenter. And we 171 00:06:18,974 --> 00:06:20,726 were marketing for room for your life and, 172 00:06:20,806 --> 00:06:22,894 you know, marketing for at the time it 173 00:06:22,894 --> 00:06:25,150 was thunder road and, you know, then Nova 174 00:06:25,448 --> 00:06:27,045 came in and we got the Charlotte marathon, 175 00:06:27,205 --> 00:06:27,684 but, you know, 176 00:06:28,402 --> 00:06:29,919 we've always again tried to 177 00:06:30,717 --> 00:06:32,406 diversify, And I've always tried to... You know, 178 00:06:32,486 --> 00:06:34,707 put that at the forefront. And because I 179 00:06:34,707 --> 00:06:35,817 know what it did for me. I know 180 00:06:35,817 --> 00:06:37,166 what running did for me and being a 181 00:06:37,166 --> 00:06:38,832 part of community did for me health wise, 182 00:06:39,802 --> 00:06:41,475 and I just always wanna, you know, show 183 00:06:41,475 --> 00:06:43,547 people like, look, there is another way. And 184 00:06:43,626 --> 00:06:45,937 I love, you know, what I'm seeing. And, 185 00:06:46,017 --> 00:06:47,371 like I said, you see all these big 186 00:06:47,371 --> 00:06:50,091 groups coming up and everybody kinda together and 187 00:06:50,250 --> 00:06:52,552 Charlotte Running club themselves kinda being more, but, 188 00:06:53,187 --> 00:06:55,172 Mh. I think we'll being more involved in 189 00:06:55,172 --> 00:06:57,654 the community as well. And because I remember 190 00:06:57,654 --> 00:06:59,814 being on the board years ago, and we 191 00:06:59,814 --> 00:07:01,495 were... Again, trying to push for those things. 192 00:07:01,654 --> 00:07:03,894 And now I think, seeing it happen is 193 00:07:03,894 --> 00:07:05,894 like, huge. Like those little shook green way, 194 00:07:06,308 --> 00:07:08,161 runs they put together a magnificent, 195 00:07:08,615 --> 00:07:10,286 and now they go to the north side 196 00:07:10,286 --> 00:07:12,195 on Mall la Creek Green and those are 197 00:07:12,195 --> 00:07:14,524 huge. So It's really... It's really nice to 198 00:07:14,524 --> 00:07:16,045 see all the options that are coming out. 199 00:07:17,004 --> 00:07:19,485 Yeah. And and in and and when Tim 200 00:07:19,485 --> 00:07:20,125 and I were at, 201 00:07:21,498 --> 00:07:23,568 running Usa back in January, 202 00:07:23,966 --> 00:07:25,798 you know, there was a lot of talk 203 00:07:25,798 --> 00:07:26,037 about, 204 00:07:26,753 --> 00:07:28,744 and a lot of speakers that were talking 205 00:07:28,744 --> 00:07:29,460 about, you know, 206 00:07:30,190 --> 00:07:32,330 how you have to change and how you 207 00:07:32,330 --> 00:07:35,105 have to, you know, not change about how 208 00:07:35,105 --> 00:07:35,605 you 209 00:07:36,056 --> 00:07:37,008 see what you're doing, 210 00:07:37,499 --> 00:07:39,561 but how you have to actually do some 211 00:07:39,561 --> 00:07:43,551 things to Mh. Let other people know that 212 00:07:44,082 --> 00:07:46,320 they're welcome here. And it's... But even super 213 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,332 simple things. Like, hey, if 214 00:07:49,263 --> 00:07:51,093 I don't see myself as a person of 215 00:07:51,093 --> 00:07:52,547 color as a woman or 216 00:07:52,858 --> 00:07:54,213 you know, person who's gender fluid or whatever. 217 00:07:54,372 --> 00:07:56,045 If I don't see myself even in the 218 00:07:56,045 --> 00:07:56,545 marketing 219 00:07:56,922 --> 00:07:57,422 of 220 00:07:57,798 --> 00:08:00,746 what you're talking about, then I'm probably gonna 221 00:08:00,746 --> 00:08:01,862 see myself in real life, 222 00:08:02,833 --> 00:08:05,460 at an event or at your store or 223 00:08:05,460 --> 00:08:07,689 at your run club or whatever. And I 224 00:08:07,689 --> 00:08:08,565 think, mh. You know, 225 00:08:09,441 --> 00:08:12,241 the industry kind of being more cognizant of 226 00:08:12,241 --> 00:08:12,741 that 227 00:08:13,594 --> 00:08:15,367 at the same time, with, 228 00:08:15,822 --> 00:08:16,618 you know, with... 229 00:08:17,493 --> 00:08:19,022 I hate to keep I don't use the 230 00:08:19,022 --> 00:08:21,017 word with the pandemic. You know, it's like... 231 00:08:21,336 --> 00:08:23,331 And and so many people coming to running, 232 00:08:24,368 --> 00:08:25,485 I think this... 233 00:08:26,059 --> 00:08:29,249 Is such an incredible time for, especially for 234 00:08:29,249 --> 00:08:30,844 people like you who've put in the work 235 00:08:30,844 --> 00:08:34,035 for 14, 15 years. They you're like. Now 236 00:08:34,035 --> 00:08:35,471 that change is coming. 237 00:08:36,680 --> 00:08:38,430 Oh, yeah. And and some of it's here 238 00:08:38,430 --> 00:08:40,578 right now. Like, Tim said with the, you 239 00:08:40,578 --> 00:08:41,772 know, 40 percent of, 240 00:08:43,299 --> 00:08:46,011 you know, runners in a very desirable age 241 00:08:46,011 --> 00:08:48,723 bracket, which speaks volumes for the future of 242 00:08:48,723 --> 00:08:51,674 running that 40 percent of that growing age 243 00:08:51,674 --> 00:08:52,870 bracket is people of color. 244 00:08:53,922 --> 00:08:55,198 Yeah. That's an amazing step. 245 00:08:56,474 --> 00:08:58,228 Yeah. I gotta cure back. 246 00:09:01,258 --> 00:09:02,949 We just school about it Right It's like 247 00:09:02,949 --> 00:09:04,569 it's like it looks like 248 00:09:05,110 --> 00:09:07,269 and those are those are things that that 249 00:09:07,269 --> 00:09:10,389 speak to, you know, everything that's going on, 250 00:09:10,470 --> 00:09:12,160 you know, as far as... What the community 251 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:13,376 that Charlotte is not, 252 00:09:13,752 --> 00:09:13,990 you know, 253 00:09:14,786 --> 00:09:17,014 any different from a lot of fast growing 254 00:09:17,014 --> 00:09:19,105 communities in that it's not just, 255 00:09:19,798 --> 00:09:20,116 you know, 256 00:09:20,768 --> 00:09:23,079 1 kind of person moving here. It's all 257 00:09:23,079 --> 00:09:25,787 kinds of people moving here. All colors, all 258 00:09:25,787 --> 00:09:27,460 shapes and sizes, all, you know, 259 00:09:28,113 --> 00:09:30,822 potentially interested in wanting to persist participate in 260 00:09:30,822 --> 00:09:34,249 the running community. Right? Yep. Oh, yeah. When 261 00:09:34,249 --> 00:09:36,576 people wanna belong. You know, I think that, 262 00:09:36,656 --> 00:09:38,093 you know, it's the bottom line of it 263 00:09:38,093 --> 00:09:39,769 people wanna feel like they belong to something 264 00:09:39,769 --> 00:09:42,162 and they're safe and Yeah. They're seeing and 265 00:09:42,162 --> 00:09:42,822 they're valued. 266 00:09:44,092 --> 00:09:45,528 And if you can give them simple things 267 00:09:45,528 --> 00:09:46,964 like that. I, you know, I think that 268 00:09:46,964 --> 00:09:47,464 goes 269 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:48,479 miles. 270 00:09:49,037 --> 00:09:51,510 Yeah. No pun data. Goes miles. That's right. 271 00:09:52,148 --> 00:09:52,946 Yep. So 272 00:09:53,439 --> 00:09:55,517 I, you know, and III... You know, we 273 00:09:55,517 --> 00:09:58,335 talk about the the health benefits and and, 274 00:09:58,794 --> 00:10:01,031 you know, for the African American community and 275 00:10:01,031 --> 00:10:03,223 the latino community there Summit additional, 276 00:10:03,914 --> 00:10:06,694 health risks, you know, with diabetes and other 277 00:10:06,694 --> 00:10:10,053 other things that III just think it's so 278 00:10:10,109 --> 00:10:11,165 important for 279 00:10:12,509 --> 00:10:14,990 for everyone to be able to have an 280 00:10:14,990 --> 00:10:17,550 opportunity to your point, it's not just I 281 00:10:17,550 --> 00:10:20,029 wanna go run. It's I wanna belong to 282 00:10:20,029 --> 00:10:22,539 a community I want somebody to smile 283 00:10:22,915 --> 00:10:24,668 when I show up and say, I'm glad 284 00:10:24,668 --> 00:10:27,456 you're here. Thanks for coming back. So, you 285 00:10:27,456 --> 00:10:29,935 know, you opening those doors for people to 286 00:10:29,935 --> 00:10:32,556 walk through and walk into a community. I... 287 00:10:32,794 --> 00:10:34,383 I'm... I mean, I see it happen in 288 00:10:34,383 --> 00:10:36,210 the Mad miles, black men run black, 289 00:10:37,184 --> 00:10:39,184 girls run. I mean, it's just... 290 00:10:40,544 --> 00:10:42,544 I... I'm proud of it. I I don't 291 00:10:42,544 --> 00:10:43,664 have a ton to do with it, but 292 00:10:43,745 --> 00:10:45,458 I I'm proud of it because 293 00:10:45,912 --> 00:10:47,819 because it means something to our community. 294 00:10:48,773 --> 00:10:49,011 Yep. 295 00:10:50,283 --> 00:10:52,111 And it connects on that personal level. Right? 296 00:10:52,350 --> 00:10:53,303 I mean, you're you're... 297 00:10:54,193 --> 00:10:54,693 You're 298 00:10:55,149 --> 00:10:56,285 giving value 299 00:10:56,741 --> 00:10:59,925 and credibility to somebody. You're affirming like, hey. 300 00:11:00,323 --> 00:11:01,756 I'm glad you're here. You belong. 301 00:11:02,329 --> 00:11:03,528 I don't care what color you are. I 302 00:11:03,528 --> 00:11:05,206 don't care what shape you are. I don't 303 00:11:05,206 --> 00:11:06,964 care how fast you run. I don't care 304 00:11:06,964 --> 00:11:08,722 if you walk. I'm glad you're here. 305 00:11:11,294 --> 00:11:12,975 Yeah. And I think those are the bigger 306 00:11:12,975 --> 00:11:15,134 things. Like, when you talk about the pioneers 307 00:11:15,134 --> 00:11:16,894 of, you know, the running community right now, 308 00:11:17,134 --> 00:11:19,669 Like, the future in really good hands where 309 00:11:19,869 --> 00:11:21,307 know, again, you know, like, we started to 310 00:11:21,307 --> 00:11:22,746 show. We're kind of Og geez in this 311 00:11:22,746 --> 00:11:24,743 game. We've been doing it a long time. 312 00:11:24,983 --> 00:11:26,660 You guys longer than me, of course. But 313 00:11:27,379 --> 00:11:29,634 you just watching people, and I, you know, 314 00:11:29,794 --> 00:11:32,195 drop a few names. Again, Corn Jones would 315 00:11:32,195 --> 00:11:34,835 be Bad miles. It's done a fantastic job. 316 00:11:35,394 --> 00:11:37,642 Cj Lang, who is again, on the board 317 00:11:37,642 --> 00:11:40,106 of Directors of Crc. You got Eric Smith. 318 00:11:40,345 --> 00:11:40,743 You've got 319 00:11:41,537 --> 00:11:44,025 they have Dan. You got Angela Angela. 320 00:11:44,653 --> 00:11:46,164 Don't wanna mess her last name but she 321 00:11:46,164 --> 00:11:49,210 leaves run for midtown with me. Angela Nap. 322 00:11:50,062 --> 00:11:50,698 Yes. Mh. 323 00:11:51,590 --> 00:11:53,429 And you you got the morning run club, 324 00:11:53,590 --> 00:11:55,269 which is an all female layer run club. 325 00:11:55,509 --> 00:11:56,790 I forget the lady leave that. But you 326 00:11:56,790 --> 00:11:58,710 have all these leaders and to look at 327 00:11:58,710 --> 00:11:59,110 them and, 328 00:12:00,082 --> 00:12:02,636 and how passionate they are, and we didn't 329 00:12:02,636 --> 00:12:05,189 see these faces, you know, 14, 15 years 330 00:12:05,189 --> 00:12:07,597 ago, but they're coming in. They're coming in. 331 00:12:07,757 --> 00:12:10,230 They're coming in strong. They're coming in, well 332 00:12:10,230 --> 00:12:11,506 equipped, well informed, 333 00:12:13,340 --> 00:12:15,494 and it's really exciting to see. Like, it's 334 00:12:15,494 --> 00:12:16,531 really, like me. 335 00:12:17,104 --> 00:12:18,619 I remember when I was doing it and 336 00:12:18,619 --> 00:12:20,055 they it was just all about, you know, 337 00:12:20,135 --> 00:12:22,448 getting to the start line, training good, get 338 00:12:22,448 --> 00:12:24,043 to the start line, you know, maybe we 339 00:12:24,043 --> 00:12:25,638 hang out at a store or brewery every 340 00:12:25,638 --> 00:12:26,889 once in a while, but 341 00:12:27,567 --> 00:12:29,482 I don't think we had is... I don't 342 00:12:29,482 --> 00:12:30,301 think the comrade 343 00:12:31,077 --> 00:12:31,555 was as, 344 00:12:33,071 --> 00:12:34,666 what can I say as extensive as this? 345 00:12:34,905 --> 00:12:36,761 Like, I don't think we Brent we 346 00:12:37,391 --> 00:12:39,455 we were network as well. We were cohesive. 347 00:12:39,693 --> 00:12:41,520 Were like... I think we were a little 348 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:44,617 more competitive in that way, where I remember 349 00:12:44,617 --> 00:12:46,778 meeting with, you know, people like Billy shoe 350 00:12:46,778 --> 00:12:48,934 and him man when he first got here 351 00:12:48,934 --> 00:12:50,930 and jeff Barb and we would run, you 352 00:12:50,930 --> 00:12:52,447 know, more hit or we made at deal 353 00:12:52,447 --> 00:12:53,485 work, and 354 00:12:54,044 --> 00:12:56,373 the Ryan Mills of the world and I 355 00:12:56,373 --> 00:12:58,042 remember, what 5 are, and we would run 356 00:12:58,042 --> 00:12:59,792 and, you know, you'd be super fast every 357 00:12:59,871 --> 00:13:02,654 Saturday. And Oh, no. And now it it 358 00:13:02,654 --> 00:13:04,801 feels like it's more family. Now it feels 359 00:13:04,801 --> 00:13:06,564 like, you know, people are haven't. Kids now 360 00:13:06,564 --> 00:13:08,312 allowed you got Franklin Keith lee and Paula 361 00:13:08,391 --> 00:13:10,854 P. Mh. You know, with their future Olympia 362 00:13:10,854 --> 00:13:13,078 that'll that are coming out. And, you know, 363 00:13:13,317 --> 00:13:15,161 I'm having a kid now. I mean, he 364 00:13:15,161 --> 00:13:18,371 tim prices. Tim practically watching me raised bread 365 00:13:18,429 --> 00:13:21,059 in his stores, you know what Judy too. 366 00:13:22,269 --> 00:13:23,938 So it's like, even for him to like, 367 00:13:24,018 --> 00:13:25,449 hit. I know how it is, but pretend 368 00:13:25,449 --> 00:13:27,039 like hit. Oh, man Had another 1, like... 369 00:13:28,311 --> 00:13:30,538 Be doing it again. Yeah. Because he watched 370 00:13:30,538 --> 00:13:32,937 me with Brie. I was always so, hands 371 00:13:32,937 --> 00:13:35,083 on with her and, not for nothing, Tim. 372 00:13:35,242 --> 00:13:37,069 I saw, you know, you with your family, 373 00:13:37,228 --> 00:13:39,079 and I saw others with theirs and 374 00:13:39,469 --> 00:13:39,787 you know, 375 00:13:40,663 --> 00:13:42,415 just 2 great dads right now on the 376 00:13:42,415 --> 00:13:43,927 podcast respect for you guys. 377 00:13:45,122 --> 00:13:46,475 And so watching you guys, Was like, yeah, 378 00:13:46,635 --> 00:13:47,533 I gotta really 379 00:13:47,923 --> 00:13:49,751 being my daughter's ear. Like I gotta be 380 00:13:49,751 --> 00:13:51,420 with her. I gotta check on and she 381 00:13:51,420 --> 00:13:53,168 would come out. And, you know, So now 382 00:13:53,327 --> 00:13:54,599 I'll get to do it again, and, you 383 00:13:54,599 --> 00:13:56,450 know, she'll be raised around some great 384 00:13:57,238 --> 00:14:00,191 great great runners and incredible runner kids too. 385 00:14:01,309 --> 00:14:02,586 I think you brought up a good point, 386 00:14:02,745 --> 00:14:04,523 and I think there was a time 387 00:14:05,871 --> 00:14:07,403 not so long ago where 388 00:14:07,856 --> 00:14:09,548 Charlotte was a little bit 389 00:14:09,921 --> 00:14:13,019 tribal and territorial with their clubs. Like, 390 00:14:13,829 --> 00:14:15,344 I run with this club, but I can't 391 00:14:15,344 --> 00:14:16,780 go run with that club. I shop at 392 00:14:16,780 --> 00:14:18,216 this store, but I can't shop at that 393 00:14:18,216 --> 00:14:20,210 store. I... I'm with this training group, but 394 00:14:20,369 --> 00:14:22,842 I won't... And it was competitive, and it 395 00:14:22,842 --> 00:14:25,802 was a little bit. Of rivalry, and I 396 00:14:26,041 --> 00:14:28,029 I don't know that that served our running 397 00:14:28,029 --> 00:14:29,722 community well, and I always 398 00:14:30,097 --> 00:14:32,360 felt like there was this tension 399 00:14:32,733 --> 00:14:35,273 that didn't belong in the equation. And it's 400 00:14:35,273 --> 00:14:37,734 like, I'm so glad to hear you say 401 00:14:37,734 --> 00:14:38,551 that now 402 00:14:39,973 --> 00:14:42,786 some of that competitiveness has been set aside 403 00:14:43,164 --> 00:14:45,078 for the betterment running me. I think we 404 00:14:45,078 --> 00:14:48,906 all all all thrive when we try to 405 00:14:48,906 --> 00:14:50,675 support each other So I I think that's 406 00:14:50,675 --> 00:14:52,030 a good thing. I'm glad to hear that. 407 00:14:53,145 --> 00:14:56,036 Yeah. III mean, I have to take accountability 408 00:14:56,173 --> 00:14:58,504 just being... Sure. From that air or, like, 409 00:14:58,745 --> 00:15:01,065 I definitely felt that way. Like, I wouldn't... 410 00:15:01,544 --> 00:15:03,144 If I felt like, okay, I've got my 411 00:15:03,144 --> 00:15:04,904 run club on Wednesday, I'm probably not gonna 412 00:15:04,904 --> 00:15:06,597 go to another 1. Yeah. You know what 413 00:15:06,756 --> 00:15:07,793 I mean Just Yeah. You know? 414 00:15:08,670 --> 00:15:09,170 And 415 00:15:09,626 --> 00:15:11,619 yeah, that was a problem. Like, we should've 416 00:15:11,619 --> 00:15:12,894 we should have hopped on this thing, you 417 00:15:12,894 --> 00:15:15,136 know, way earlier, but... You know, again, it's 418 00:15:15,136 --> 00:15:17,275 here, and it's it's a beautiful thing that's 419 00:15:17,275 --> 00:15:17,988 happening. And, 420 00:15:19,176 --> 00:15:20,999 you know, especially at the races when you 421 00:15:20,999 --> 00:15:23,796 watch, you our pacing teams, like our pacing 422 00:15:23,796 --> 00:15:26,103 teams are so solid and they're, they're all 423 00:15:26,103 --> 00:15:28,171 pivotal in the growth of the community. If 424 00:15:28,171 --> 00:15:29,842 you look at the faces of our pace 425 00:15:29,842 --> 00:15:30,081 now. 426 00:15:30,654 --> 00:15:32,329 At Lisa Land and Eric's... You know, Eric 427 00:15:32,409 --> 00:15:33,846 Smith are doing a great job with that. 428 00:15:35,522 --> 00:15:37,756 Yeah, man. It's it's it's wonderful to see. 429 00:15:37,916 --> 00:15:39,848 It's wonderful to see Yeah. I wanna change 430 00:15:39,848 --> 00:15:41,366 the focus a little bit. I wanna talk 431 00:15:41,366 --> 00:15:43,284 about you. You you're running. 432 00:15:44,163 --> 00:15:45,681 I see you I see you out. And 433 00:15:45,761 --> 00:15:47,772 I'm out ride my bike measure course horse 434 00:15:47,772 --> 00:15:48,488 doing whatever. 435 00:15:49,283 --> 00:15:51,430 Invariably I run into you with your... 1 436 00:15:51,430 --> 00:15:53,417 of your training groups or whatever, but you 437 00:15:53,417 --> 00:15:54,928 run a lot of races too, and you've 438 00:15:54,928 --> 00:15:56,995 had a chance to run not just in 439 00:15:56,995 --> 00:15:59,184 or North America, but in other 440 00:15:59,561 --> 00:16:00,438 countries and continents, 441 00:16:01,395 --> 00:16:02,990 tell us tell us some of your highlights. 442 00:16:03,229 --> 00:16:05,063 I'd I'd brag on yourself there for a 443 00:16:05,063 --> 00:16:05,223 minute. 444 00:16:06,353 --> 00:16:07,940 A little bit. Yeah. I... Okay. 445 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:11,034 Reg on me. 446 00:16:11,749 --> 00:16:12,725 So I've done 447 00:16:13,669 --> 00:16:15,347 did Tokyo this year. That was a big 448 00:16:15,347 --> 00:16:17,825 1 for me. Wow. In Tokyo was always 449 00:16:17,825 --> 00:16:19,423 been like a bucket listings since I was 450 00:16:19,423 --> 00:16:22,320 a kid just being into a anime. And 451 00:16:22,634 --> 00:16:23,033 Finding... 452 00:16:24,709 --> 00:16:26,225 I think because I grew up, you know, 453 00:16:26,385 --> 00:16:28,321 in the city youth in Charlotte, like, the 454 00:16:28,380 --> 00:16:30,476 introduction of Anime was kinda like that escape 455 00:16:30,709 --> 00:16:32,379 like, I wasn't doing a ton of traveling 456 00:16:32,379 --> 00:16:33,015 at that age. 457 00:16:33,890 --> 00:16:35,400 So that, you know, that was nice. And 458 00:16:35,957 --> 00:16:37,866 the culture was amazing. Like, it was a 459 00:16:37,866 --> 00:16:39,695 trip that I would... I've I've echoed it, 460 00:16:39,933 --> 00:16:40,984 I would suggest to any. 461 00:16:41,782 --> 00:16:43,858 It was it was simply amazing. I wish 462 00:16:44,017 --> 00:16:45,375 I had more time. I was able to 463 00:16:45,375 --> 00:16:46,572 get maybe a week over there, 464 00:16:47,371 --> 00:16:49,207 but it was great. I ran my race. 465 00:16:49,606 --> 00:16:51,637 It wasn't the best time, but 466 00:16:52,093 --> 00:16:53,528 it was because I was having a good 467 00:16:53,528 --> 00:16:55,201 time. If I would've went there to, like, 468 00:16:55,361 --> 00:16:56,796 race it, I don't think I would've enjoyed 469 00:16:56,796 --> 00:16:57,832 it as much. Yeah. 470 00:16:58,884 --> 00:17:00,965 So I was happy with my... I I 471 00:17:00,965 --> 00:17:02,404 went think 03:56, 472 00:17:02,565 --> 00:17:03,524 maybe 03:57. 473 00:17:04,484 --> 00:17:04,724 But 474 00:17:05,778 --> 00:17:07,371 You know, it was a good time. I 475 00:17:07,371 --> 00:17:08,963 love Japan, and then I've done... 476 00:17:10,237 --> 00:17:11,830 What I was done New York. I've done 477 00:17:12,148 --> 00:17:12,547 Chicago. 478 00:17:14,393 --> 00:17:17,018 I've done grandma, which I... I like that 479 00:17:17,018 --> 00:17:18,848 1 because I've got my 2 fast marathon 480 00:17:18,848 --> 00:17:20,757 times at grandma's in duluth, Minnesota. 481 00:17:21,647 --> 00:17:23,157 I just went up there and worked for, 482 00:17:23,872 --> 00:17:24,587 destination marathons. 483 00:17:24,985 --> 00:17:26,574 What was that last weekend. I was up 484 00:17:26,574 --> 00:17:28,640 there. You we worked the race and had 485 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:29,276 a great time. 486 00:17:30,564 --> 00:17:32,742 The Olympic trial champion, Dakota 487 00:17:33,121 --> 00:17:34,399 Win Lin. 488 00:17:34,878 --> 00:17:37,775 Lin Lin. Yep. So she's been with us 489 00:17:38,169 --> 00:17:40,007 The past 2 times I've gone in race 490 00:17:40,007 --> 00:17:41,285 and then she was with us this year 491 00:17:41,285 --> 00:17:43,122 and her goal is to go sub 01:10 492 00:17:43,122 --> 00:17:44,481 and a half, and she got, like, a 493 00:17:44,481 --> 00:17:44,880 01:08. 494 00:17:45,534 --> 00:17:47,370 And some change. So... Have ridiculous man. 495 00:17:48,407 --> 00:17:50,722 Yeah. At least she was out there. My 496 00:17:50,722 --> 00:17:50,961 god. 497 00:17:51,839 --> 00:17:52,339 Oh, 498 00:17:52,797 --> 00:17:53,037 yeah. 499 00:17:54,089 --> 00:17:55,688 And brag, just to brag on her. She 500 00:17:55,688 --> 00:17:57,605 had, like, Kt tape on her ham. I'm 501 00:17:57,605 --> 00:18:00,002 like, man. She's she's I hip pushing, 502 00:18:00,482 --> 00:18:01,681 it was great to see her at, like, 503 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:02,080 mile, 504 00:18:02,814 --> 00:18:05,048 think I saw at my 11.211 505 00:18:05,048 --> 00:18:05,367 0.3. 506 00:18:06,325 --> 00:18:08,080 But, yeah, I run... I do love my 507 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:09,676 races, man. I'm trying to get all 6 508 00:18:09,676 --> 00:18:13,040 majors. I, I should have Berlin in September 509 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:13,837 on the 20 ninth. 510 00:18:14,794 --> 00:18:16,707 So I'll be doing that. I'm a actually 511 00:18:16,707 --> 00:18:17,663 raising money for a 512 00:18:18,954 --> 00:18:20,071 What is it a wildlife? 513 00:18:20,949 --> 00:18:23,044 What's going on altogether? For a wildlife 514 00:18:23,662 --> 00:18:24,858 conservation effort. And, 515 00:18:26,945 --> 00:18:28,135 What are we doing with that? Oh, I 516 00:18:28,135 --> 00:18:29,643 went vegetarian. And that's I was linking this 517 00:18:29,643 --> 00:18:31,706 in. So April first, I went vegetarian to 518 00:18:31,706 --> 00:18:33,452 support that, and I'm raising money for that 519 00:18:33,452 --> 00:18:34,722 so I can go to the Berlin. 520 00:18:35,134 --> 00:18:37,611 And I'll run that September 20 ninth. Right 521 00:18:37,611 --> 00:18:39,049 on, man. Make sure you send me the 522 00:18:39,049 --> 00:18:40,008 link on that. We'll put it in the 523 00:18:40,008 --> 00:18:41,766 show notes so folks can check on that 524 00:18:41,766 --> 00:18:44,251 as well, man. Awesome. Thank you. I would... 525 00:18:44,570 --> 00:18:46,401 Donate money to Darius is 526 00:18:47,834 --> 00:18:49,744 cause there and help them get to Berlin. 527 00:18:50,222 --> 00:18:53,100 Exactly. Alright. I appreciate you guys, ma'am. It's 528 00:18:53,100 --> 00:18:53,418 totally, man. 529 00:18:54,530 --> 00:18:56,279 Well... And and that's... And and as it 530 00:18:56,279 --> 00:18:57,790 relates to that, I I wanna get back 531 00:18:57,790 --> 00:18:59,950 to the the... The 10000 foot topic real 532 00:18:59,950 --> 00:19:01,459 quick before we let you run though. It's 533 00:19:01,459 --> 00:19:04,239 like, it's like it's like for somebody like 534 00:19:04,239 --> 00:19:07,431 you who has been doing the the hand 535 00:19:07,431 --> 00:19:09,973 to hand combat on, you know, blurb like 536 00:19:09,973 --> 00:19:12,038 you said, 14 15 years of bringing new 537 00:19:12,038 --> 00:19:12,992 people into the fold. 538 00:19:13,786 --> 00:19:14,922 You know, that's 539 00:19:15,628 --> 00:19:18,402 that's 1 thing. And then, you know, this 540 00:19:18,402 --> 00:19:20,645 is 1 of the positives of 541 00:19:21,017 --> 00:19:22,706 social media is 542 00:19:23,173 --> 00:19:25,159 folks can... Without even being there, 543 00:19:26,032 --> 00:19:27,406 they can see themselves 544 00:19:28,018 --> 00:19:30,481 at these races, at these run clubs, at 545 00:19:30,481 --> 00:19:31,037 these events, 546 00:19:31,608 --> 00:19:32,881 and go, you know what? 547 00:19:33,836 --> 00:19:36,643 People like darius weren't kidding. I really 548 00:19:37,256 --> 00:19:40,456 can see myself and should see myself at 549 00:19:40,456 --> 00:19:42,289 stuff like that. That's gotta make that's gotta 550 00:19:42,289 --> 00:19:42,789 make 551 00:19:43,962 --> 00:19:46,528 a dude like you who's Thank you Said 552 00:19:46,528 --> 00:19:48,044 done the done the boots on the ground 553 00:19:48,044 --> 00:19:50,038 work feel Like, see, I told you y'all. 554 00:19:51,394 --> 00:19:51,634 Yeah. 555 00:19:52,591 --> 00:19:55,320 Oh, yeah. I mean, especially thinking, you know, 556 00:19:55,479 --> 00:19:57,155 I'm a Charlotte. And I'm local from here, 557 00:19:57,315 --> 00:19:59,230 My family goes back generations and, 558 00:20:00,268 --> 00:20:02,834 you know, the thing, the the status quo 559 00:20:02,834 --> 00:20:04,903 were all unicorns. Like, oh, you guys are 560 00:20:04,903 --> 00:20:05,381 so rare. 561 00:20:06,017 --> 00:20:07,211 Soon as they find that I'm from here. 562 00:20:07,370 --> 00:20:08,643 And I'm like yeah. Like I can still 563 00:20:08,643 --> 00:20:10,806 show you where my my mom's, mom's house, 564 00:20:10,965 --> 00:20:13,431 my grandmother's house is, she lived in 49 565 00:20:13,431 --> 00:20:16,158 years. Wow. So I can... I've lived, 566 00:20:16,709 --> 00:20:18,304 all over the city and, you know, being 567 00:20:18,304 --> 00:20:19,580 from here. And I remember, 568 00:20:20,139 --> 00:20:22,793 again, 14, 15 years ago trying to gal, 569 00:20:23,490 --> 00:20:25,345 you the city in some way, at least 570 00:20:25,345 --> 00:20:27,505 people of color a way of to come 571 00:20:27,505 --> 00:20:29,345 to these events because I fell in love 572 00:20:29,345 --> 00:20:31,025 with it. And I was like, I know 573 00:20:31,025 --> 00:20:32,865 this is right. Like, I know this is 574 00:20:32,865 --> 00:20:34,795 healthy. Know this will benefit them. I just 575 00:20:34,795 --> 00:20:37,028 don't know how... Because, again, I wasn't 576 00:20:37,665 --> 00:20:39,579 a big social light in school. So it 577 00:20:39,579 --> 00:20:41,174 wasn't like I was like, the most popular 578 00:20:41,174 --> 00:20:42,131 guy. I was just like, 579 00:20:42,862 --> 00:20:44,926 I knew people, and people got along with 580 00:20:44,926 --> 00:20:46,673 me and I knew I was charismatic to 581 00:20:46,673 --> 00:20:48,896 an extent, but I didn't know how to 582 00:20:48,896 --> 00:20:51,136 gal when I was groups will. And so 583 00:20:51,296 --> 00:20:52,491 I end up going to college and I 584 00:20:52,491 --> 00:20:53,766 took public speaking courses, 585 00:20:54,483 --> 00:20:56,077 while I was working around free life, and 586 00:20:57,272 --> 00:20:59,279 that helped, So I think that's what helped 587 00:20:59,279 --> 00:21:01,748 me, like, start my own run clubs and 588 00:21:01,748 --> 00:21:04,218 help support others and start to do those 589 00:21:04,218 --> 00:21:06,528 things, but it was still difficult to 590 00:21:07,738 --> 00:21:09,729 go to my neighborhood, try to reach out 591 00:21:09,729 --> 00:21:10,229 to 592 00:21:10,765 --> 00:21:13,097 entities like park and rick and try to 593 00:21:13,632 --> 00:21:15,783 show them the value in what I was 594 00:21:15,783 --> 00:21:16,022 doing, 595 00:21:16,754 --> 00:21:17,654 and still 596 00:21:18,672 --> 00:21:20,350 make a living because I've got bills to 597 00:21:20,350 --> 00:21:21,948 pay. Have I've got a new wife, and 598 00:21:22,028 --> 00:21:23,546 I've got my daughter, and I've got my 599 00:21:23,546 --> 00:21:24,285 step daughter 600 00:21:24,598 --> 00:21:26,347 and it was just tough to figure out 601 00:21:26,347 --> 00:21:26,824 how that... 602 00:21:27,619 --> 00:21:29,845 What what those happy mediums were. Damn. 603 00:21:31,117 --> 00:21:32,549 But now that I'm seeing, like, I mean... 604 00:21:32,867 --> 00:21:34,471 Again to your point, I loved seeing it. 605 00:21:34,947 --> 00:21:37,247 And it was so so worth to work, 606 00:21:37,326 --> 00:21:39,389 and I know it's I know it's gonna 607 00:21:39,389 --> 00:21:40,420 be great going forward, 608 00:21:41,055 --> 00:21:43,219 seeing indeed, and it's great having you on 609 00:21:43,219 --> 00:21:46,006 board, dude, and I'm so excited that you're 610 00:21:46,006 --> 00:21:48,235 again, part of the Nova Hell charlotte ambassador 611 00:21:48,235 --> 00:21:48,474 squad. 612 00:21:49,841 --> 00:21:51,746 Appreciate, man. Yeah. Thank you, Darius. Speak too 613 00:21:51,746 --> 00:21:51,826 him. 614 00:21:52,620 --> 00:21:54,764 Thank you guys. Thank brother. Thanks for taking 615 00:21:54,764 --> 00:21:56,670 the time today, buddy. See you later. Alrighty. 616 00:21:56,828 --> 00:21:58,258 Yeah you have a great day. 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