1 00:00:00,279 --> 00:00:02,596 So this book, like, he was coming out, 2 00:00:02,756 --> 00:00:04,594 so I I should give a little context 3 00:00:04,594 --> 00:00:06,591 to it because it really matters background, all 4 00:00:06,591 --> 00:00:08,005 of that stuff. So he was kind of 5 00:00:08,284 --> 00:00:11,560 and some darker green grass, some, like, kinda 6 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:14,197 just feeding out. So didn't have, like, a 7 00:00:14,197 --> 00:00:17,004 really light background behind him. When I when 8 00:00:17,163 --> 00:00:19,306 I first spotted the deer, I was just 9 00:00:19,306 --> 00:00:21,291 blown away. I was like, whoa. Like, that 10 00:00:21,291 --> 00:00:22,561 deer is out there and I kinda had 11 00:00:22,561 --> 00:00:24,387 to, like, check myself. I'm like, how far 12 00:00:24,387 --> 00:00:26,795 is that deer. And the detail I was 13 00:00:26,795 --> 00:00:28,795 seeing as dark as it was. 14 00:00:30,155 --> 00:00:32,635 And I mean, usually, like at that distance. 15 00:00:33,208 --> 00:00:35,198 So... And this is this held true So 16 00:00:35,198 --> 00:00:37,665 when I put my the 15 S on 17 00:00:37,665 --> 00:00:37,744 him. 18 00:01:01,564 --> 00:01:03,564 The rock cast is powered by On x 19 00:01:03,564 --> 00:01:06,379 hunt. The number 1 Gps app in the 20 00:01:06,379 --> 00:01:06,540 industry. 21 00:01:07,340 --> 00:01:09,420 Stay tuned for a rock cast promo code. 22 00:01:09,979 --> 00:01:11,900 Welcome back to their Rock broadcast everyone. This 23 00:01:11,900 --> 00:01:14,388 is Travis hobbs, and... I have a guest, 24 00:01:14,706 --> 00:01:15,659 I'm super excited. 25 00:01:16,216 --> 00:01:17,567 Matt Cash. And if you don't know who 26 00:01:17,646 --> 00:01:19,871 Matt Cash is, your lip must be living 27 00:01:19,871 --> 00:01:22,176 under a rock because he is rock slides. 28 00:01:22,588 --> 00:01:25,471 Optic guru. 1 of the smartest guys I've 29 00:01:25,685 --> 00:01:27,750 ever, like, I love reading your reviews, man. 30 00:01:28,068 --> 00:01:30,292 I just appreciate all the detail you put 31 00:01:30,292 --> 00:01:32,015 into them and it's awesome it really helped 32 00:01:32,134 --> 00:01:34,282 guys make decisions, and these are big decisions, 33 00:01:34,441 --> 00:01:35,657 lots of money. So 34 00:01:36,270 --> 00:01:37,566 this is cool and 35 00:01:37,941 --> 00:01:40,266 both of us. These have a pair of 36 00:01:40,266 --> 00:01:42,760 the new Sw n l 14 37 00:01:43,217 --> 00:01:46,646 by 50 twos. I am just super excited 38 00:01:46,646 --> 00:01:48,241 about this ocular, and I can't wait to 39 00:01:48,241 --> 00:01:50,268 get Mad. We really haven't talked 40 00:01:50,722 --> 00:01:52,868 much. So Matt, welcome to the podcast, man. 41 00:01:53,981 --> 00:01:55,969 Thanks, Travis. Good to be here. Yeah. For 42 00:01:55,969 --> 00:01:57,814 the fun words. Oh, no. Well, it's just 43 00:01:57,814 --> 00:01:59,487 a awesome like, And and that's the thing 44 00:01:59,487 --> 00:02:02,035 is no matter what you might be looking 45 00:02:02,035 --> 00:02:03,628 for. You've put out a lot of good 46 00:02:03,628 --> 00:02:06,114 stuff. Tripod pods, optics. You just... Do an 47 00:02:06,114 --> 00:02:07,715 awesome job and just hit the nail on 48 00:02:07,715 --> 00:02:08,775 the head. And I 49 00:02:09,235 --> 00:02:10,995 try to explain things to my buddies and 50 00:02:11,074 --> 00:02:12,435 I can't really do it very well as 51 00:02:12,514 --> 00:02:13,415 I don't really 52 00:02:13,729 --> 00:02:14,127 I guess, 53 00:02:14,925 --> 00:02:15,983 understand every 54 00:02:17,876 --> 00:02:19,790 detail and, like, why things are the way 55 00:02:19,790 --> 00:02:20,827 they are, and you do such a good 56 00:02:20,827 --> 00:02:22,843 job, so don't know. It's awesome. So 57 00:02:23,794 --> 00:02:26,034 the fourteenth van. What do you think? 58 00:02:27,474 --> 00:02:28,354 Yeah. I think 59 00:02:29,875 --> 00:02:31,803 I think they're... Kinda 1 of those. Every 60 00:02:31,803 --> 00:02:33,736 once a while you get that, like, market 61 00:02:34,032 --> 00:02:35,249 resetting optics 62 00:02:35,783 --> 00:02:37,239 that comes out and 63 00:02:38,744 --> 00:02:39,943 like, some of the ones that I think 64 00:02:39,943 --> 00:02:42,361 really turned the corner where, like, the Z 65 00:02:42,420 --> 00:02:43,640 apps with their full 66 00:02:44,179 --> 00:02:46,656 ballistic functionality. Mh. And then, you know, others 67 00:02:46,656 --> 00:02:48,429 came up to meet those, but mimic came 68 00:02:48,429 --> 00:02:49,567 out, they kinda of really 69 00:02:49,945 --> 00:02:51,939 set the bar, and and 70 00:02:52,977 --> 00:02:53,477 the 71 00:02:53,854 --> 00:02:57,622 tiny spotter from came Sw and Ko, well, 72 00:02:57,782 --> 00:02:59,859 pretty much every spine scope from Ras and 73 00:02:59,939 --> 00:03:00,919 C are really 74 00:03:01,937 --> 00:03:05,380 leading leading edge of optic technology and and 75 00:03:05,539 --> 00:03:08,744 I think that these N l 14 are 76 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,926 in that vein also, I think they're just 77 00:03:12,634 --> 00:03:14,543 they're gonna be really popular. That's what I 78 00:03:14,543 --> 00:03:16,929 saying. And even at their price point. Yeah. 79 00:03:17,168 --> 00:03:17,884 And, you know, 80 00:03:18,759 --> 00:03:21,006 I I'd... I think, like, there's been, like, 81 00:03:21,166 --> 00:03:23,001 3 times in my life that I feel 82 00:03:23,001 --> 00:03:25,496 like I was, like, blown away optically. 83 00:03:26,034 --> 00:03:27,630 And I would like, say the first time, 84 00:03:27,790 --> 00:03:29,485 like, back in the early 2 thousands when 85 00:03:29,645 --> 00:03:31,564 I ever looked through, like, in my... My 86 00:03:31,564 --> 00:03:33,885 first pair of, like, looking through an alpha 87 00:03:33,885 --> 00:03:35,245 para of glass. Like, I was just like, 88 00:03:35,405 --> 00:03:38,054 whoa, this is unreal, you know, just using 89 00:03:38,054 --> 00:03:41,416 cheap oc. And then when that 10 n 90 00:03:41,473 --> 00:03:44,175 come out, I was just like, whoa. Like, 91 00:03:44,414 --> 00:03:45,924 I didn't even know it could get this 92 00:03:45,924 --> 00:03:46,083 good, 93 00:03:46,814 --> 00:03:48,242 And then I thought the same thing, like, 94 00:03:48,401 --> 00:03:50,305 the first time, so it was... I think 95 00:03:50,385 --> 00:03:51,361 I've had them for, 96 00:03:51,892 --> 00:03:54,035 I think this is week 3. 97 00:03:55,639 --> 00:03:57,952 Just blown away. Like, the first time I 98 00:03:57,952 --> 00:04:00,025 was just like, I cannot believe this. And 99 00:04:00,025 --> 00:04:01,142 it's just the weirdest, 100 00:04:02,099 --> 00:04:03,854 and maybe we can dive into this, but, 101 00:04:03,934 --> 00:04:05,944 like, why it is, like that, but like 102 00:04:05,944 --> 00:04:07,064 the ergonomic. 103 00:04:07,784 --> 00:04:09,544 I mean, obviously, you're gonna probably wanna put 104 00:04:09,544 --> 00:04:12,025 4 on a tripod. But even still, like, 105 00:04:12,185 --> 00:04:14,344 hand holding them. I felt like I could 106 00:04:14,344 --> 00:04:16,514 that kinda hand them a little bit, not 107 00:04:16,514 --> 00:04:18,109 that I ever wanna hunt with them, but 108 00:04:18,109 --> 00:04:21,061 just like blown away, like the clarity, the 109 00:04:21,061 --> 00:04:23,066 color the field of you. It's just like 110 00:04:23,066 --> 00:04:25,691 this next level experience that I just... 111 00:04:26,327 --> 00:04:27,759 I don't know it's hard to explain. 112 00:04:29,287 --> 00:04:31,920 No. I think I think our... Maybe that's 113 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,174 what L actually stands for 114 00:04:35,110 --> 00:04:37,981 is next level because that's what they did 115 00:04:37,981 --> 00:04:39,905 with that's what they did with the field 116 00:04:39,905 --> 00:04:40,643 of view 117 00:04:41,811 --> 00:04:43,741 up and down the range 118 00:04:44,591 --> 00:04:46,656 Yes. From the eights all the way up. 119 00:04:47,069 --> 00:04:48,126 And they 120 00:04:48,582 --> 00:04:50,892 continue that with these. The field view is 121 00:04:50,892 --> 00:04:51,870 just monstrous. 122 00:04:52,565 --> 00:04:54,333 But I gotta ask you, like what do 123 00:04:54,333 --> 00:04:56,566 you think about the magnification? I know they 124 00:04:56,566 --> 00:04:58,320 say they are 14 and they're they're a 125 00:04:58,320 --> 00:04:59,755 little 14 plus ish, 126 00:05:01,190 --> 00:05:04,080 but having them max... To the fifteenth, 127 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:06,720 and I gotta tell you that it's... 128 00:05:07,439 --> 00:05:08,420 The experience 129 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:09,460 is 130 00:05:10,335 --> 00:05:12,275 that it seems like more. 131 00:05:13,055 --> 00:05:14,175 Dude What you find? 132 00:05:14,895 --> 00:05:16,654 So I am so glad you said that 133 00:05:16,654 --> 00:05:18,175 because it was 1 of my first questions. 134 00:05:18,669 --> 00:05:20,342 To you, was like, what did you think? 135 00:05:20,740 --> 00:05:24,029 Because I thought the same thing, like... So 136 00:05:24,166 --> 00:05:25,304 when they said 14 137 00:05:25,934 --> 00:05:27,290 And then I heard this, like, 138 00:05:28,008 --> 00:05:30,800 actually more than 14. It's, like, 14, and 139 00:05:30,959 --> 00:05:32,714 I've heard a couple numbers ran around, like, 140 00:05:32,873 --> 00:05:34,490 14.714 141 00:05:34,548 --> 00:05:35,107 0.5. 142 00:05:35,919 --> 00:05:37,589 But, dude, when I first looked at him 143 00:05:37,589 --> 00:05:39,498 and, like, I had my fifteen's on a 144 00:05:39,498 --> 00:05:40,930 tripod right next to it and I'm like, 145 00:05:41,089 --> 00:05:42,044 going back and forth. 146 00:05:42,934 --> 00:05:44,207 I don't know if it's the field of 147 00:05:44,207 --> 00:05:46,832 you, like if it's just my brain. I 148 00:05:46,832 --> 00:05:49,537 don't know, but dude, I think the exact 149 00:05:49,537 --> 00:05:51,526 same thing that like it feels like it's... 150 00:05:52,417 --> 00:05:55,365 Like 16 or 7... I don't know. It 151 00:05:55,365 --> 00:05:57,994 feels like it's more to me. I... It's 152 00:05:57,994 --> 00:06:00,702 weird weird than the 15. Right? Yes. I 153 00:06:00,702 --> 00:06:02,634 mean, does. Yes. You have them right next 154 00:06:02,634 --> 00:06:04,875 to each other. It feels like the 14 155 00:06:04,875 --> 00:06:07,754 have more magnification. And I... You know, there's 156 00:06:07,754 --> 00:06:09,926 there's a lot of weird process. Options that 157 00:06:09,926 --> 00:06:12,629 go into evaluating optics sit... And something you 158 00:06:12,629 --> 00:06:14,798 always have to remember, would you start 159 00:06:15,569 --> 00:06:18,192 doing comparisons and doing reviews is that, like, 160 00:06:18,590 --> 00:06:20,905 options a big component as that is that 161 00:06:20,905 --> 00:06:24,157 computer behind your eyes? Mh. And and they 162 00:06:24,157 --> 00:06:26,829 do. They they give you little 163 00:06:27,427 --> 00:06:29,740 false impressions sometimes, but there is something about 164 00:06:29,740 --> 00:06:31,595 them. They just feel like more 165 00:06:31,972 --> 00:06:33,966 magnification. I... I'm so glad you said that. 166 00:06:34,045 --> 00:06:36,454 And like, we didn't talk about this. Before 167 00:06:36,933 --> 00:06:38,532 before, like, this is the first time like 168 00:06:38,532 --> 00:06:41,089 this. We've just barely sat down and talk 169 00:06:41,089 --> 00:06:43,007 to them. I thought I was gonna say 170 00:06:43,007 --> 00:06:44,925 the exact same thing. Like, I felt like, 171 00:06:45,417 --> 00:06:48,679 They're more. It's the weirdest thing, that feedback, 172 00:06:48,838 --> 00:06:51,145 and I... Like, there's just so much that's 173 00:06:51,145 --> 00:06:54,185 coming in. Like it's just so clear. And 174 00:06:54,185 --> 00:06:55,960 the other thing that I 175 00:06:56,495 --> 00:06:58,487 I was really curious to hear your thoughts 176 00:06:58,487 --> 00:07:00,796 on was like it low light. 177 00:07:01,529 --> 00:07:04,081 I could not believe the detail I was 178 00:07:04,081 --> 00:07:06,154 seeing. So I had this buck. It was 179 00:07:06,154 --> 00:07:06,872 20 minutes. 180 00:07:07,510 --> 00:07:09,026 It was like, right. I looked at my 181 00:07:09,026 --> 00:07:10,780 clock. It was like, 20 minutes before sun 182 00:07:10,780 --> 00:07:13,577 up. So we're talking pretty dark. Way past 183 00:07:13,577 --> 00:07:15,349 a thousand, I think you was probably 184 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:19,061 upwards of, almost 2000 yards away. Not a 185 00:07:19,061 --> 00:07:21,407 great bug, but so I'm looking at him 186 00:07:22,024 --> 00:07:23,301 in the fourth, and I was just like, 187 00:07:23,540 --> 00:07:25,216 whoa. Like, I could see the detail, and 188 00:07:25,296 --> 00:07:27,451 I'm going back and forth between my fifteenth. 189 00:07:28,105 --> 00:07:29,404 And the fourteenth try 190 00:07:29,865 --> 00:07:32,745 setup up side by side. And the detail 191 00:07:32,904 --> 00:07:35,644 I was seeing, I was just like, how 192 00:07:36,358 --> 00:07:38,990 like, how... If it's less power and like, 193 00:07:39,230 --> 00:07:41,224 all of these things, I know there's so 194 00:07:41,224 --> 00:07:43,218 much that goes into this, but, like, the 195 00:07:43,218 --> 00:07:45,052 low light, I was nervous about it because 196 00:07:45,052 --> 00:07:45,552 they're 197 00:07:46,423 --> 00:07:47,459 a 52 198 00:07:47,459 --> 00:07:49,771 objective lens versus 56, and I was like, 199 00:07:49,930 --> 00:07:51,604 that's pretty big difference, And I was kinda 200 00:07:51,604 --> 00:07:53,358 thinking, you know, how is that gonna play 201 00:07:53,358 --> 00:07:55,287 out? And I was just my mind was 202 00:07:55,287 --> 00:07:58,238 blown. Like, I could not believe the differences 203 00:07:58,397 --> 00:07:58,955 I was seeing. 204 00:08:00,072 --> 00:08:02,864 Yeah. I'm that's it's really curious this is 205 00:08:02,864 --> 00:08:04,950 definitely an area I wanted to get impressions. 206 00:08:06,063 --> 00:08:06,779 And I think 207 00:08:07,653 --> 00:08:10,674 formatting this podcast this way is absolutely perfect. 208 00:08:10,912 --> 00:08:13,218 Where we had no pre discussion over. So 209 00:08:13,377 --> 00:08:15,546 I have It's interesting to hear you say 210 00:08:15,546 --> 00:08:15,706 that, 211 00:08:17,701 --> 00:08:18,201 so 212 00:08:18,819 --> 00:08:21,634 I want to distinguish between, like, the general 213 00:08:22,252 --> 00:08:24,582 illumination level and, like, how a apparently break 214 00:08:24,582 --> 00:08:26,598 everything look. Mh. Between the 2 215 00:08:27,215 --> 00:08:30,188 versus the detail you can see in that 216 00:08:30,406 --> 00:08:30,566 elimination. 217 00:08:31,858 --> 00:08:32,256 Gotcha. 218 00:08:32,895 --> 00:08:34,571 And so what what are you seeing? 219 00:08:35,209 --> 00:08:37,684 So between the 15 by 56 and the 220 00:08:37,684 --> 00:08:38,881 14 by 52. 221 00:08:40,093 --> 00:08:43,387 What are you seeing in in, like, general 222 00:08:43,446 --> 00:08:46,001 brightness? Like, and how late you can go 223 00:08:46,001 --> 00:08:46,900 into the evening 224 00:08:47,438 --> 00:08:48,236 and still, 225 00:08:49,846 --> 00:08:52,075 and get a usable image. So this book, 226 00:08:52,234 --> 00:08:54,463 like, he was coming out, so I I 227 00:08:54,463 --> 00:08:55,975 should give a little context to it because 228 00:08:55,975 --> 00:08:57,885 it could really matters background, all of that 229 00:08:57,885 --> 00:08:59,892 stuff. So he was kind of and some 230 00:08:59,892 --> 00:09:03,164 darker green grass, and, like, kinda just feeding 231 00:09:03,164 --> 00:09:05,957 out. So didn't have, like, a really light 232 00:09:05,957 --> 00:09:08,605 background behind him, when I when I first 233 00:09:08,605 --> 00:09:10,678 spotted the deer, I was just blown away 234 00:09:10,758 --> 00:09:12,592 I was like, whoa. Like, that deer is 235 00:09:12,592 --> 00:09:13,868 out there, and I kinda had to, like, 236 00:09:13,948 --> 00:09:15,861 check myself. I'm, like, how far is that 237 00:09:15,861 --> 00:09:18,663 dear. And the detail I was seeing as 238 00:09:18,663 --> 00:09:19,777 dark as it was. 239 00:09:21,130 --> 00:09:23,596 And I mean, usually, like at that distance, 240 00:09:24,249 --> 00:09:26,244 So... And this is this held true. So 241 00:09:26,244 --> 00:09:28,639 when I put my... The 15 S on 242 00:09:28,639 --> 00:09:28,718 him, 243 00:09:29,676 --> 00:09:31,751 it was almost like it was just a 244 00:09:31,751 --> 00:09:33,683 blurry set of. Like, you could see the 245 00:09:33,683 --> 00:09:36,720 ant, but to try to get definition and 246 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:39,197 points and all of that stuff. And we're 247 00:09:39,197 --> 00:09:41,275 talking just, you know, a buck with, 248 00:09:42,487 --> 00:09:43,998 He was a little 4.3 249 00:09:43,998 --> 00:09:46,703 to 4 inch deep forks. Nothing great, but 250 00:09:46,862 --> 00:09:48,612 I could see all of that. 251 00:09:49,263 --> 00:09:51,491 In the N l's, like, I could make 252 00:09:51,491 --> 00:09:51,888 it out. 253 00:09:52,525 --> 00:09:53,638 And then when I went back to the 254 00:09:53,718 --> 00:09:54,275 S llc, 255 00:09:55,070 --> 00:09:57,556 like, it was like, blurry. Like, I wouldn't 256 00:09:57,556 --> 00:09:59,552 have been able to tell exactly if that 257 00:09:59,552 --> 00:10:00,430 kinda makes sense. 258 00:10:01,148 --> 00:10:04,660 And so Interesting. Yeah. And, like, the definition 259 00:10:04,660 --> 00:10:07,467 just seem to be way better, like, 260 00:10:09,222 --> 00:10:10,259 quite a bit better. 261 00:10:11,216 --> 00:10:12,811 The other thing that I noticed is as 262 00:10:12,891 --> 00:10:14,247 I was glass with them. 263 00:10:15,138 --> 00:10:17,205 Was I did have some deer, like, in 264 00:10:17,205 --> 00:10:17,999 some shadows, 265 00:10:19,430 --> 00:10:20,884 so if it was 266 00:10:21,496 --> 00:10:22,053 9AM. 267 00:10:23,181 --> 00:10:24,850 Deer kinda feed, and I was kinda going 268 00:10:24,850 --> 00:10:26,122 back through, and it was a doe and 269 00:10:26,122 --> 00:10:28,053 some fawn, and I'm going back and forth 270 00:10:28,109 --> 00:10:29,938 between them and like the color pop, 271 00:10:30,669 --> 00:10:32,267 of those deer in the shadows. And sw 272 00:10:32,267 --> 00:10:34,025 off he's always had this to me. Like, 273 00:10:34,184 --> 00:10:35,223 in for my eyes, 274 00:10:35,862 --> 00:10:38,192 I feel like they always kinda pop that 275 00:10:38,192 --> 00:10:39,860 color, like the color of a deer so 276 00:10:39,860 --> 00:10:42,005 they got kinda red coats and kinda pop 277 00:10:42,005 --> 00:10:43,674 it, but I felt like it was... And 278 00:10:43,833 --> 00:10:45,207 I don't know I'm like, am I talking 279 00:10:45,263 --> 00:10:47,027 myself into it, and I'm like to these 280 00:10:47,027 --> 00:10:49,890 are just unreal like that color pop and 281 00:10:49,890 --> 00:10:53,413 to see that definition behind, like, the comparison 282 00:10:53,964 --> 00:10:56,522 between the background, like the deer versus its 283 00:10:56,522 --> 00:10:59,399 background, it just... There's just something about it. 284 00:10:59,558 --> 00:11:01,636 Like, I I couldn't believe it. It was 285 00:11:01,636 --> 00:11:02,675 really surprising. 286 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:05,654 Yeah. So 287 00:11:06,660 --> 00:11:09,380 generally, what I've been skiing in low light 288 00:11:09,990 --> 00:11:10,941 is that the... 289 00:11:11,512 --> 00:11:12,330 The general 290 00:11:13,102 --> 00:11:13,602 illumination 291 00:11:14,136 --> 00:11:17,078 is actually pretty similar between them. Gotcha. So 292 00:11:17,078 --> 00:11:19,145 you get you get to... What, in my 293 00:11:19,145 --> 00:11:20,576 experience with the 2 samples I have. 294 00:11:21,629 --> 00:11:24,110 Would you get to the same time where 295 00:11:24,110 --> 00:11:25,710 1 cons out and you just can't see 296 00:11:25,710 --> 00:11:26,110 anything? 297 00:11:27,230 --> 00:11:28,909 The other 1 is Cock had it. Look. 298 00:11:29,084 --> 00:11:30,063 I identity Right 299 00:11:30,759 --> 00:11:30,918 switch. 300 00:11:31,796 --> 00:11:32,296 But 301 00:11:33,231 --> 00:11:34,188 until of that time, 302 00:11:35,225 --> 00:11:37,857 I could definitely see more detail in the 303 00:11:37,857 --> 00:11:38,096 else. 304 00:11:38,829 --> 00:11:40,907 Than I could in the S c's. 305 00:11:41,626 --> 00:11:43,783 Yeah. See I I thought the same thing. 306 00:11:45,781 --> 00:11:48,190 You got... They're just... Super impressive and then 307 00:11:48,190 --> 00:11:50,025 the other the other side of it is 308 00:11:50,025 --> 00:11:51,779 just that field of view, 309 00:11:53,135 --> 00:11:56,007 especially when you're glass things that are in 310 00:11:56,007 --> 00:11:56,485 that, like, 311 00:11:57,929 --> 00:12:01,259 thousand yards plus. Mh. It's just so much 312 00:12:01,259 --> 00:12:01,576 bigger. 313 00:12:02,290 --> 00:12:03,955 Do you see so much more of the 314 00:12:03,955 --> 00:12:04,114 amount? 315 00:12:04,845 --> 00:12:08,125 It's an unreal right to the edge. Yes. 316 00:12:08,285 --> 00:12:10,845 It's really, really impressive. And I a wanna, 317 00:12:10,925 --> 00:12:13,004 like talk down on the S. They're still... 318 00:12:13,418 --> 00:12:16,521 Just amazing. They're just said great. Yes. A 319 00:12:16,521 --> 00:12:19,566 good a great high power modular and and 320 00:12:20,434 --> 00:12:22,029 if you didn't have the l's right next 321 00:12:22,029 --> 00:12:23,704 time, you'd just be wow the whole time. 322 00:12:24,023 --> 00:12:27,213 Yes. For sure. But about the ls do 323 00:12:27,213 --> 00:12:29,207 take it a step further they're just a 324 00:12:29,207 --> 00:12:29,707 really 325 00:12:30,654 --> 00:12:31,709 well designed 326 00:12:32,162 --> 00:12:34,542 off. And low distortion, 327 00:12:35,335 --> 00:12:36,684 straight lines remain straight, 328 00:12:37,653 --> 00:12:39,643 just a really impressive optic. And I... We're 329 00:12:39,643 --> 00:12:41,714 getting into lots of spoilers on written review, 330 00:12:41,873 --> 00:12:42,510 but really, 331 00:12:43,306 --> 00:12:44,819 I hope that 3 years go on check 332 00:12:44,819 --> 00:12:47,215 it out and and check out the distortion 333 00:12:47,215 --> 00:12:47,715 notes 334 00:12:48,641 --> 00:12:50,543 and and kinda get a good feel for 335 00:12:50,543 --> 00:12:51,281 it, but, 336 00:12:53,332 --> 00:12:55,873 the truth is but with this level of 337 00:12:55,873 --> 00:12:56,270 performance, 338 00:12:57,302 --> 00:12:59,549 even though their at at 339 00:12:59,923 --> 00:13:01,670 price level that they're at. 340 00:13:02,959 --> 00:13:05,059 Over 3000 dollars. I think that 341 00:13:06,399 --> 00:13:08,320 I I actually was expecting them to be 342 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:10,720 more I don't what. I I actually thought 343 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:11,919 the same thing. When I first, 344 00:13:12,493 --> 00:13:14,723 So when I first heard about the release, 345 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,350 I immediately called my optics dealer, and I'm 346 00:13:17,350 --> 00:13:18,704 like, dude, I hope you already got me 347 00:13:18,704 --> 00:13:20,217 on for... And he's like, yeah. I got 348 00:13:20,217 --> 00:13:21,508 you down. I was like, what are the... 349 00:13:21,667 --> 00:13:23,103 What's the price gonna be? And he's like, 350 00:13:23,263 --> 00:13:23,422 I, 351 00:13:24,380 --> 00:13:26,215 I don't know. He's like, I'm hearing some 352 00:13:26,215 --> 00:13:27,730 numbers and when he threw it out. I 353 00:13:27,730 --> 00:13:30,134 was like, really that's, like, I was worried, 354 00:13:30,372 --> 00:13:32,203 I was going to be, like, significantly more. 355 00:13:32,442 --> 00:13:34,113 And the whole reason I think I was 356 00:13:34,113 --> 00:13:34,988 so excited. 357 00:13:36,118 --> 00:13:37,554 To get them was just I was so 358 00:13:37,554 --> 00:13:38,990 blown away at the tens and right when 359 00:13:38,990 --> 00:13:40,346 the tens come out. I was like, man, 360 00:13:40,585 --> 00:13:42,281 I wonder if they're gonna do, like, a 361 00:13:42,579 --> 00:13:44,254 15 or a 4... You know, I I 362 00:13:44,254 --> 00:13:45,530 didn't ever think 14. 363 00:13:45,945 --> 00:13:47,225 I was thinking man, they ever gonna do, 364 00:13:47,304 --> 00:13:49,945 like, a higher power ocular, because I sure 365 00:13:49,945 --> 00:13:52,424 hope so and sure enough. They've they've done 366 00:13:52,424 --> 00:13:52,904 it. Yeah. 367 00:13:54,197 --> 00:13:55,414 Yeah. So, 368 00:13:56,268 --> 00:13:58,179 I mean, moving on to the next thing, 369 00:13:58,418 --> 00:14:00,250 that's part of my review and I think 370 00:14:00,250 --> 00:14:01,149 part of yours 371 00:14:01,844 --> 00:14:02,082 is, 372 00:14:03,052 --> 00:14:05,194 what did you think about the hand ability? 373 00:14:05,670 --> 00:14:07,043 Dude I was really 374 00:14:07,575 --> 00:14:08,527 surprised. And I, 375 00:14:09,717 --> 00:14:12,752 I don't, like... Because typically, you know, a 376 00:14:12,752 --> 00:14:14,424 pair of 15. You just... They're like my 377 00:14:14,503 --> 00:14:17,392 S I just cannot. Like, I feel like 378 00:14:17,529 --> 00:14:19,143 they're almost unusable. 379 00:14:19,851 --> 00:14:21,992 Holding by hand. Unless I can, like, rest 380 00:14:21,992 --> 00:14:24,531 my elbows, you know, maybe on the side 381 00:14:24,531 --> 00:14:27,227 of a truck or on my knee something, 382 00:14:27,959 --> 00:14:30,436 that without doing that, they're really just to 383 00:14:30,436 --> 00:14:32,513 stand and hold them, they're almost unusable, 384 00:14:33,232 --> 00:14:35,964 and I could not believe, I because you 385 00:14:35,964 --> 00:14:37,345 know, you grab the pair of. 386 00:14:37,884 --> 00:14:39,164 First thing you do is you just put 387 00:14:39,164 --> 00:14:40,524 them up to your eyes and you look. 388 00:14:41,004 --> 00:14:43,894 And I was like, whoa, like, it I 389 00:14:43,894 --> 00:14:46,832 was really surprised and it's... Again, and you 390 00:14:46,832 --> 00:14:48,762 got... You have talked about this, but the 391 00:14:48,818 --> 00:14:49,318 ergonomic 392 00:14:49,850 --> 00:14:52,312 of that N series is just... 393 00:14:52,804 --> 00:14:53,304 It's 394 00:14:53,764 --> 00:14:55,704 unbelievable. I was so shocked 395 00:14:56,004 --> 00:14:58,084 that I could actually hold them and actually 396 00:14:58,084 --> 00:15:00,324 kind of, like, the... Not that I would 397 00:15:00,324 --> 00:15:02,184 wanna do it, but I think 398 00:15:02,659 --> 00:15:04,014 you know, for a short period of time, 399 00:15:04,173 --> 00:15:05,928 Like, if you wanted to verify a deer, 400 00:15:07,203 --> 00:15:09,356 was a deer, whatever something along those lines, 401 00:15:09,596 --> 00:15:11,371 I think a guy could do it. And 402 00:15:11,684 --> 00:15:13,759 get away with it? I... What was your 403 00:15:13,759 --> 00:15:14,397 thoughts on that? 404 00:15:15,993 --> 00:15:17,132 My thoughts were 405 00:15:17,988 --> 00:15:20,656 that this is the first, like, truly high 406 00:15:21,349 --> 00:15:23,576 magnification molecular, but I think I could actually 407 00:15:23,576 --> 00:15:24,315 use that 408 00:15:24,770 --> 00:15:26,122 hand holding. Yes. 409 00:15:26,852 --> 00:15:27,670 Per general 410 00:15:28,202 --> 00:15:28,360 observation. 411 00:15:29,234 --> 00:15:31,139 Yeah. I certainly would prefer a can. 412 00:15:32,012 --> 00:15:32,250 Yes. 413 00:15:33,044 --> 00:15:34,869 Just because it's so much easier. Mh. 414 00:15:36,234 --> 00:15:38,378 But if you lock that to your ball, 415 00:15:38,616 --> 00:15:39,116 Mh. 416 00:15:39,490 --> 00:15:42,189 And you... And you really drive it into 417 00:15:42,189 --> 00:15:44,333 the orbital bones of your eyes, your eyebrow. 418 00:15:45,943 --> 00:15:48,681 Yep. You can get you can get usability 419 00:15:48,900 --> 00:15:49,619 steady for, like, 420 00:15:50,578 --> 00:15:53,789 6, 08:10 seconds at a time. Where you 421 00:15:53,789 --> 00:15:55,467 can actually use them, which... 422 00:15:56,266 --> 00:15:57,943 I, And I'm sure there's people that can 423 00:15:57,943 --> 00:16:00,260 do that with, like, a 15 S, but 424 00:16:00,420 --> 00:16:01,869 I could... Yeah. And I'm in the same. 425 00:16:02,028 --> 00:16:04,096 But just 2 It's just too much not. 426 00:16:04,255 --> 00:16:06,244 The patient is hard to feel the view 427 00:16:06,244 --> 00:16:07,357 is kinda of narrower. 428 00:16:08,167 --> 00:16:09,935 It's hard to get it to sort of 429 00:16:10,307 --> 00:16:11,416 stabilize for your brain. 430 00:16:12,288 --> 00:16:14,690 But these... It's a combination of everything. 431 00:16:15,711 --> 00:16:18,167 The ergonomic probably being the biggest part of 432 00:16:18,167 --> 00:16:18,484 adam, 433 00:16:19,118 --> 00:16:21,653 when they turn the prism and made that 434 00:16:21,653 --> 00:16:22,312 sort of 435 00:16:23,898 --> 00:16:24,298 you know, 436 00:16:25,017 --> 00:16:28,054 sexy curves that they did on series. They 437 00:16:28,613 --> 00:16:29,593 they did something 438 00:16:30,611 --> 00:16:32,230 to making them work 439 00:16:32,703 --> 00:16:33,203 handheld 440 00:16:33,578 --> 00:16:34,374 so much better. 441 00:16:35,965 --> 00:16:36,942 Yeah. Now 442 00:16:38,033 --> 00:16:38,988 I'm not gonna say, like, 443 00:16:39,798 --> 00:16:41,391 I'll prefer them on the track front. Trust 444 00:16:41,391 --> 00:16:42,108 me. Yes. 445 00:16:42,904 --> 00:16:43,882 Any any 446 00:16:44,258 --> 00:16:45,771 is gonna be better on yes. For sure. 447 00:16:46,010 --> 00:16:47,841 And as you go up in magnification, 448 00:16:48,493 --> 00:16:50,001 they get that much better as you go 449 00:16:50,001 --> 00:16:50,740 up, but 450 00:16:51,749 --> 00:16:53,361 I will say that they are 451 00:16:53,734 --> 00:16:54,234 hand 452 00:16:55,084 --> 00:16:56,594 so much so that if I was on 453 00:16:56,594 --> 00:16:57,388 a certain hunt, 454 00:16:58,119 --> 00:16:59,557 I have a... I'm thinking of an El 455 00:16:59,557 --> 00:17:01,635 con, a late rifle content that I I 456 00:17:01,635 --> 00:17:02,194 do often. 457 00:17:03,393 --> 00:17:05,230 Where these are just be great because I 458 00:17:05,230 --> 00:17:07,724 spend, like, all day in the same spot, 459 00:17:08,365 --> 00:17:09,804 glass through burns. Mh. 460 00:17:10,684 --> 00:17:12,765 But on the way there, and back, I 461 00:17:12,765 --> 00:17:14,284 wouldn't feel like they need to have them 462 00:17:14,284 --> 00:17:15,184 another a mono molecular 463 00:17:15,499 --> 00:17:17,564 for doing the general observation. 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Well, it's so interesting you say that 492 00:18:18,077 --> 00:18:20,308 because I will be honest. I do not 493 00:18:20,308 --> 00:18:22,618 leave my house without my tens. Like, I 494 00:18:22,618 --> 00:18:23,118 generally 495 00:18:23,990 --> 00:18:25,829 Never. And I mean, even if it's scouting, 496 00:18:25,990 --> 00:18:28,309 I know where I'm going, like... So this 497 00:18:28,309 --> 00:18:30,150 morning, I think I've been... I think I've 498 00:18:30,150 --> 00:18:32,390 had about 6 trips on them so far. 499 00:18:32,884 --> 00:18:35,038 And this morning, I was loading my stuff 500 00:18:35,038 --> 00:18:35,277 up, 501 00:18:36,234 --> 00:18:37,749 and I'm like, you know what? I'm not 502 00:18:37,749 --> 00:18:39,743 even gonna take my tens. Like, I'm taking 503 00:18:39,743 --> 00:18:41,657 these 4. I know what I'm gonna use 504 00:18:41,657 --> 00:18:41,976 all day. 505 00:18:42,709 --> 00:18:44,939 And as I was walking out, I checked 506 00:18:44,939 --> 00:18:46,294 a couple, like I put them on my 507 00:18:46,294 --> 00:18:48,444 chest. And not that I would probably go 508 00:18:48,444 --> 00:18:50,371 hunting like that. But like, it was the 509 00:18:50,371 --> 00:18:52,360 first time that I've never had my tens 510 00:18:52,360 --> 00:18:54,293 with me, and I didn't feel like I 511 00:18:54,827 --> 00:18:56,896 needed them wanted them just because I was 512 00:18:56,896 --> 00:18:58,647 just so blown away and this filled of 513 00:18:58,647 --> 00:19:00,970 view. But That was 1 thing, the... And 514 00:19:01,049 --> 00:19:03,277 I'm kinda weird like, when I'm glass for 515 00:19:03,277 --> 00:19:05,346 mule air, generally in the morning, 516 00:19:05,903 --> 00:19:08,377 even and I've always usually pack a pair 517 00:19:08,377 --> 00:19:10,914 of 15. I would generally do a pretty 518 00:19:10,914 --> 00:19:13,134 rapid scan with my tens just to find 519 00:19:13,134 --> 00:19:13,689 every deer, 520 00:19:14,339 --> 00:19:16,172 that's kinda out and about that I can 521 00:19:16,172 --> 00:19:18,006 kinda check them off the list. Like, what's 522 00:19:18,006 --> 00:19:19,600 this? What's this? What's this? And I just 523 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,013 felt like I could do it more efficiently 524 00:19:22,071 --> 00:19:24,799 with... Then, like, with my 15 by 56. 525 00:19:25,358 --> 00:19:27,194 And today, I didn't feel like I needed 526 00:19:27,194 --> 00:19:28,711 those tens. Like, I just felt like that 527 00:19:28,711 --> 00:19:30,308 field of you was so big. I could 528 00:19:30,308 --> 00:19:31,686 get all of those 529 00:19:32,079 --> 00:19:34,557 deer that were, you know, like, really popped 530 00:19:34,557 --> 00:19:36,634 out at that first early morning. I could 531 00:19:36,634 --> 00:19:39,132 run through, check them all and then kinda 532 00:19:39,272 --> 00:19:41,244 get more serious on glass. I was just 533 00:19:41,522 --> 00:19:43,902 I'm blown away by. I really am just 534 00:19:43,902 --> 00:19:44,537 so impressed. 535 00:19:46,203 --> 00:19:47,259 Yeah. They're because 536 00:19:48,266 --> 00:19:50,187 they really did take it a step. Further 537 00:19:50,187 --> 00:19:50,506 with them. 538 00:19:52,259 --> 00:19:55,605 I think they're they're also just they just 539 00:19:55,605 --> 00:19:56,742 feel so much 540 00:19:57,053 --> 00:19:59,679 smaller and more compact than the 15 so 541 00:19:59,679 --> 00:20:01,749 series here. I know and so... Also Caesar 542 00:20:01,749 --> 00:20:04,636 are attained. Yeah. And these things feel like 543 00:20:04,773 --> 00:20:07,731 almost like you're they... You what they feel 544 00:20:07,731 --> 00:20:09,186 like is, like, 1 of their 545 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:10,697 Abby ko 546 00:20:12,663 --> 00:20:13,141 prism. 547 00:20:13,634 --> 00:20:15,949 10 to 40 twos. Are kinda longer. Yes. 548 00:20:16,507 --> 00:20:18,423 Yes. Still like that. 549 00:20:19,540 --> 00:20:21,636 It's just it's just a really good 550 00:20:22,910 --> 00:20:25,230 spot. That's Where ras found. I'll 551 00:20:25,869 --> 00:20:28,429 put this configuration. Yeah. I couldn't agree more. 552 00:20:28,589 --> 00:20:30,924 And this was another interesting thing And guys, 553 00:20:31,085 --> 00:20:32,764 like, I think it's hard to... 554 00:20:34,125 --> 00:20:35,884 It's hard to when you're really talking about, 555 00:20:36,044 --> 00:20:38,284 Like, because the way, I was... That's 1 556 00:20:38,284 --> 00:20:39,345 thing that I was 557 00:20:39,659 --> 00:20:41,493 I was thinking when I held them in 558 00:20:41,493 --> 00:20:43,088 my hand for the first time I was, 559 00:20:43,168 --> 00:20:44,923 like, man, these things got away like, 560 00:20:45,641 --> 00:20:48,432 a half a pound less than the fifteenth. 561 00:20:48,672 --> 00:20:51,231 Like, I just they just feel so much 562 00:20:51,231 --> 00:20:53,376 different. But I was kinda surprised when I 563 00:20:53,376 --> 00:20:54,965 actually put them on my skill. I was 564 00:20:54,965 --> 00:20:58,778 like, well, they're not that much different. I 565 00:20:58,778 --> 00:21:01,260 mean, I think I had... Like, what was 566 00:21:01,260 --> 00:21:04,445 it, like, 6, 7 ounces or something? I 567 00:21:04,445 --> 00:21:06,196 think that was about right. Yes. I... Yeah. 568 00:21:06,356 --> 00:21:07,964 I think that's about what it is. Which 569 00:21:07,964 --> 00:21:10,039 is getting close to half. Yeah I I 570 00:21:10,039 --> 00:21:12,193 guess that's true. So, yeah. I mean, I 571 00:21:12,273 --> 00:21:14,507 I don't know. It just... They kinda surprised 572 00:21:14,507 --> 00:21:16,513 me and the... You know, and then the 573 00:21:16,513 --> 00:21:17,864 height, you know, like they're... 574 00:21:18,817 --> 00:21:19,691 I don't know. They're... 575 00:21:20,406 --> 00:21:22,154 I think what are they a quarter inch? 576 00:21:22,963 --> 00:21:25,271 Something no, maybe a half inch shorter, something 577 00:21:25,271 --> 00:21:26,545 like that than the fifteen's. 578 00:21:28,296 --> 00:21:31,161 Little more narrow. Just under 7 inches. Yep. 579 00:21:31,399 --> 00:21:34,529 So... Makes. And it's... It was interesting. I 580 00:21:34,529 --> 00:21:36,849 actually was so excited that I was able 581 00:21:36,849 --> 00:21:37,750 to put them, 582 00:21:38,130 --> 00:21:39,190 like, in my Mars 583 00:21:39,490 --> 00:21:41,423 fully enclosed. I was actually able to put 584 00:21:41,423 --> 00:21:43,599 them in a medium versus that 585 00:21:44,216 --> 00:21:47,009 long pack, you know, first... Like, that kind 586 00:21:47,009 --> 00:21:48,866 of stuff just... And it makes a difference 587 00:21:49,337 --> 00:21:50,763 pack them around, and I think they're just 588 00:21:50,763 --> 00:21:52,268 a little more user friendly. I don't know. 589 00:21:52,427 --> 00:21:53,298 I'm super impressed. 590 00:21:54,804 --> 00:21:55,938 Yeah. But I think 591 00:21:56,643 --> 00:21:58,949 a lot of people depending on their hunting 592 00:21:58,949 --> 00:21:59,449 style 593 00:22:00,540 --> 00:22:02,290 are gonna go for them. I think, like, 594 00:22:03,820 --> 00:22:05,360 cows hunters and, 595 00:22:06,059 --> 00:22:07,119 you know, desert 596 00:22:07,660 --> 00:22:08,619 newly hunters. 597 00:22:09,500 --> 00:22:11,740 Yeah. Just gonna flock to these. I think 598 00:22:11,740 --> 00:22:12,115 they're 599 00:22:12,554 --> 00:22:14,072 I think they're just gonna sell thousands and 600 00:22:14,072 --> 00:22:15,530 of them of those guys. And 601 00:22:16,468 --> 00:22:18,865 I... They're not necessarily gonna replace. 602 00:22:19,439 --> 00:22:20,818 The 10 by 42 603 00:22:20,877 --> 00:22:22,874 for me or the 8 by 32 or 604 00:22:22,874 --> 00:22:23,354 that's another. 605 00:22:23,993 --> 00:22:25,111 Awesome sound really like. 606 00:22:27,919 --> 00:22:29,137 Especially for, like, a car 607 00:22:29,515 --> 00:22:31,030 in the chamber of that sort of thing. 608 00:22:31,349 --> 00:22:33,343 I'm just not gonna need a 14 power 609 00:22:33,343 --> 00:22:34,641 vernacular for that, but 610 00:22:35,098 --> 00:22:36,156 for sure. And 611 00:22:36,468 --> 00:22:37,287 for those 612 00:22:38,301 --> 00:22:40,474 alpine mule glass intensive 613 00:22:40,930 --> 00:22:44,299 hans that, you know, the late elk burn 614 00:22:44,436 --> 00:22:45,472 rifle hans. Yep. 615 00:22:46,441 --> 00:22:47,497 And bonds 616 00:22:48,345 --> 00:22:48,845 just 617 00:22:49,694 --> 00:22:50,669 they're just gonna 618 00:22:51,676 --> 00:22:55,047 go together, you know, well as long. I'd 619 00:22:56,055 --> 00:22:57,983 completely agree man. It's it's 620 00:22:58,356 --> 00:23:00,896 like, so fun talk to you just your 621 00:23:00,896 --> 00:23:02,348 thoughts and, like, how 622 00:23:03,134 --> 00:23:05,528 I... Yeah. I because everything like lines right 623 00:23:05,528 --> 00:23:08,081 up. 1 question I had for you. What 624 00:23:08,081 --> 00:23:09,698 was your thoughts about the new 625 00:23:10,569 --> 00:23:12,807 stud design. Did you did you get the 626 00:23:12,807 --> 00:23:14,645 sw offs stud to put him on a 627 00:23:14,645 --> 00:23:15,124 tripod? 628 00:23:15,923 --> 00:23:18,581 I have the... I think it's a As 629 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:19,120 adapter from... 630 00:23:20,248 --> 00:23:22,550 Okay. With the lever, and it kinda slides 631 00:23:22,550 --> 00:23:23,686 in and then 632 00:23:24,218 --> 00:23:24,933 slides up, 633 00:23:25,647 --> 00:23:28,188 and I gotta tell you. I'm a big 634 00:23:28,188 --> 00:23:30,033 outdoors and then fan. Mh. And I pretty 635 00:23:30,033 --> 00:23:33,240 much get studs for all of my bin 636 00:23:33,536 --> 00:23:34,969 for from outdoors beds. 637 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:36,934 Van 638 00:23:37,688 --> 00:23:39,037 And then I run a lot of Arc, 639 00:23:39,830 --> 00:23:42,923 tripod stuff. So I got either the outdoors 640 00:23:42,923 --> 00:23:44,906 one's version and Arc or I get adapter. 641 00:23:45,319 --> 00:23:46,756 Gotcha. To put Arc on, 642 00:23:47,554 --> 00:23:50,907 but the the So adapter comes with an 643 00:23:50,907 --> 00:23:52,105 arc compatible base, 644 00:23:52,903 --> 00:23:54,101 and it's got a good. 645 00:23:54,992 --> 00:23:56,500 Firm lever. I don't know. Do you have 646 00:23:56,500 --> 00:23:59,277 1 for yours? I don't... So I actually 647 00:23:59,277 --> 00:24:01,657 was using the... Let me think what it's 648 00:24:01,657 --> 00:24:03,976 called. I forget. It's like the strap over 649 00:24:03,976 --> 00:24:06,205 is what I had to use until I 650 00:24:06,205 --> 00:24:07,422 got outdoors 651 00:24:07,798 --> 00:24:10,027 stud sent to me. I think I had 652 00:24:10,027 --> 00:24:11,221 that in my hands, 653 00:24:12,193 --> 00:24:13,311 last Friday. 654 00:24:14,349 --> 00:24:16,424 Or, yeah. This last Friday. So I've... I 655 00:24:16,424 --> 00:24:18,101 switched since, but I... The... What are the 656 00:24:18,180 --> 00:24:20,256 Ut or whatever the kind of the strap 657 00:24:20,256 --> 00:24:22,368 overs is what I was first using. And 658 00:24:22,987 --> 00:24:26,283 that's obviously not ideal, but, I'm super impressed 659 00:24:26,343 --> 00:24:26,843 outdoors 660 00:24:27,701 --> 00:24:28,600 stud is 661 00:24:28,993 --> 00:24:30,983 super awesome the way it works. I feel 662 00:24:30,983 --> 00:24:31,221 like, 663 00:24:32,336 --> 00:24:35,280 it's really a secured design. Like, I really 664 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,844 like it. It's a little more simple than 665 00:24:37,844 --> 00:24:40,233 the old N, how it was screwed in 666 00:24:40,233 --> 00:24:41,986 there. I think I had to use some 667 00:24:41,986 --> 00:24:44,788 lock tie. It was just... It took me 668 00:24:44,788 --> 00:24:46,458 2 seconds. Like, it didn't even come on 669 00:24:46,458 --> 00:24:48,367 instructions. It's, like, put this on. Here you 670 00:24:48,367 --> 00:24:50,219 go. Like, you'll figure it out. So 671 00:24:50,928 --> 00:24:52,843 So does it cam in then the outdoor 672 00:24:52,843 --> 00:24:55,634 is? Yep. Yep. So it cams in and 673 00:24:55,634 --> 00:24:57,389 then the outer, so it's got... 674 00:24:58,186 --> 00:25:00,202 It's kinda weird you would tighten it 675 00:25:00,754 --> 00:25:01,792 through the outside, 676 00:25:03,069 --> 00:25:05,384 basically, with that, like, the Allen wrench, the... 677 00:25:05,544 --> 00:25:07,380 But it's, like a 2 piece design, so 678 00:25:07,380 --> 00:25:10,107 it goes inside comes up super cure. 679 00:25:10,823 --> 00:25:11,698 I'm really impressed. 680 00:25:13,131 --> 00:25:14,563 Yeah. So I think that would be a 681 00:25:14,563 --> 00:25:17,290 good solution. I do think that Sw rob. 682 00:25:19,432 --> 00:25:20,172 In house 683 00:25:20,709 --> 00:25:23,580 adapter that I'm using is really good. That's 684 00:25:23,580 --> 00:25:25,893 awesome are. It's the first 1 that I've 685 00:25:25,893 --> 00:25:28,626 really used that kinda meets that outdoors standard 686 00:25:28,779 --> 00:25:31,109 and it actually, like, deals with the, 687 00:25:32,201 --> 00:25:33,338 you know, the loosening, 688 00:25:33,792 --> 00:25:34,770 the the 689 00:25:35,543 --> 00:25:37,785 yes. And Yeah. How rotation. 690 00:25:38,342 --> 00:25:39,080 On the 691 00:25:39,535 --> 00:25:41,205 accents there that you get with outdoors and 692 00:25:41,205 --> 00:25:43,693 some. It's a little less with those ras 693 00:25:43,750 --> 00:25:44,068 adapter. 694 00:25:44,878 --> 00:25:46,471 Which I really like. It's kinda got a 695 00:25:46,471 --> 00:25:48,303 nice tension there you can get upset just... 696 00:25:48,701 --> 00:25:50,215 Cool. Like, if your tripod pods is a 697 00:25:50,215 --> 00:25:53,242 little off, k or. Yeah. That's awesome. Yeah. 698 00:25:53,974 --> 00:25:55,729 Yeah. So it's a it's a good solution. 699 00:25:55,888 --> 00:25:58,122 I think it's a little heavier than outdoors 700 00:25:58,122 --> 00:26:00,594 and solution on... And, you know, I haven't 701 00:26:00,594 --> 00:26:02,508 quite got weights on those yet. That's coming 702 00:26:02,508 --> 00:26:03,465 this week but, 703 00:26:05,545 --> 00:26:06,680 Yeah. I think 704 00:26:07,688 --> 00:26:11,022 it's clear that Sw is really... 705 00:26:11,751 --> 00:26:12,806 Listening to 706 00:26:13,338 --> 00:26:14,235 North American, 707 00:26:14,925 --> 00:26:16,829 western hunters, and they're sort of driving the 708 00:26:16,829 --> 00:26:19,465 market, I think. Yes. Because this is a 709 00:26:19,465 --> 00:26:21,374 tailor they're made product for people like us. 710 00:26:21,612 --> 00:26:24,078 Oh, yes. I... Like, I'm so excited about 711 00:26:24,078 --> 00:26:26,964 it. I did. And I honestly, every time 712 00:26:27,045 --> 00:26:28,404 I get behind them I just can't help 713 00:26:28,404 --> 00:26:30,484 a smile. I'm just like these are unreal, 714 00:26:30,644 --> 00:26:31,605 and I have to say, 715 00:26:32,565 --> 00:26:35,135 they like, I thought the 10 n l 716 00:26:35,135 --> 00:26:37,371 was the best ocular. I have ever used 717 00:26:37,371 --> 00:26:38,967 in my life, and I have to say 718 00:26:38,967 --> 00:26:41,842 this 14, like, is the best spectacular I 719 00:26:41,842 --> 00:26:42,560 have ever used, like, 720 00:26:43,375 --> 00:26:45,375 I... I've only been up behind it. 721 00:26:46,414 --> 00:26:49,134 Like I said, I think, you know, 6 722 00:26:49,134 --> 00:26:49,855 days, I think, 723 00:26:50,894 --> 00:26:53,626 like, scouting days. Some of those were morning 724 00:26:53,626 --> 00:26:56,019 and I and a couple mornings mixed mixing. 725 00:26:56,178 --> 00:26:58,513 But I'm just blown away, and I actually 726 00:26:58,970 --> 00:27:00,246 let my buddy use them. 727 00:27:01,363 --> 00:27:01,921 Hit, like, 728 00:27:02,811 --> 00:27:05,274 an hour into... I have to say, he's 729 00:27:05,274 --> 00:27:06,727 like, I think these are the best. 730 00:27:07,101 --> 00:27:09,007 I have ever looked through, like I cannot 731 00:27:09,007 --> 00:27:09,564 believe it would. 732 00:27:10,278 --> 00:27:11,788 Do do you dare go that far? 733 00:27:13,870 --> 00:27:15,563 You know, I don't know. I feel 734 00:27:16,653 --> 00:27:18,505 the the closest to ocular 735 00:27:18,879 --> 00:27:20,549 perfection I've seen, and I I did a 736 00:27:20,549 --> 00:27:21,583 full review on the 12. 737 00:27:22,314 --> 00:27:24,624 Power else, and they were great. They're the 738 00:27:24,624 --> 00:27:25,660 best 12 I've ever used. 739 00:27:26,695 --> 00:27:28,050 I have a little bit of time with 740 00:27:28,050 --> 00:27:28,789 the tens 741 00:27:29,577 --> 00:27:31,721 I really think that's the best overall bin 742 00:27:31,721 --> 00:27:33,865 vernacular used is the 10 n l. Yes. 743 00:27:34,342 --> 00:27:36,089 For just everything. Yes. 744 00:27:37,693 --> 00:27:40,245 But as far as high magnification goes, there's 745 00:27:40,245 --> 00:27:42,079 nothing that's really gonna be close to this. 746 00:27:42,557 --> 00:27:45,131 It's the 15 S 747 00:27:45,667 --> 00:27:46,167 amazing, 748 00:27:46,878 --> 00:27:48,470 I would say that the 15 749 00:27:49,425 --> 00:27:50,619 Is every bit is good. 750 00:27:51,415 --> 00:27:54,519 I really like the 18 that are coming 751 00:27:54,519 --> 00:27:58,125 out from, like, the ultra Hd from Vortex. 752 00:27:58,285 --> 00:28:00,445 That's not a really good ocular. I haven't 753 00:28:00,445 --> 00:28:02,365 done a full deep dive on them, but 754 00:28:02,365 --> 00:28:02,865 from 755 00:28:03,244 --> 00:28:04,845 the time I have spent with them. I 756 00:28:04,845 --> 00:28:05,664 think they're just 757 00:28:06,460 --> 00:28:08,299 really good. And I think there's some of 758 00:28:08,299 --> 00:28:10,619 the 18 from that same family from some 759 00:28:10,619 --> 00:28:11,599 of the other companies 760 00:28:13,659 --> 00:28:15,200 are really good. But 761 00:28:15,908 --> 00:28:17,256 the an is the king. 762 00:28:18,128 --> 00:28:21,141 Yes. It is. It's less 1 that's available 763 00:28:21,141 --> 00:28:21,299 now. 764 00:28:23,299 --> 00:28:25,639 It's the first 1 that's, like, truly hand. 765 00:28:26,500 --> 00:28:26,819 And I... 766 00:28:27,779 --> 00:28:30,019 I don't wanna, like, give them this impression. 767 00:28:31,312 --> 00:28:31,630 That... 768 00:28:32,267 --> 00:28:34,438 Yeah. Throwing your tens away. Using. 769 00:28:35,053 --> 00:28:36,905 It's not. Yeah. But 770 00:28:37,361 --> 00:28:37,997 instead of, like... 771 00:28:39,209 --> 00:28:39,709 Immediately 772 00:28:40,168 --> 00:28:42,346 unusable, like a all time magnification 773 00:28:42,805 --> 00:28:43,524 are handheld. 774 00:28:44,643 --> 00:28:46,981 You get a few seconds a good usable 775 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,125 time. Before that shape kinda makes it, 776 00:28:50,635 --> 00:28:51,510 not as usable. 777 00:28:53,179 --> 00:28:56,218 You pursue them. You cherish them. And now 778 00:28:56,218 --> 00:28:59,089 it's time to protect them. This is the 779 00:28:59,169 --> 00:28:59,647 Mule 780 00:29:00,206 --> 00:29:03,316 Foundation. 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Visit mule 797 00:29:40,550 --> 00:29:41,603 dot org today. 798 00:29:44,391 --> 00:29:44,789 For sure. 799 00:29:45,904 --> 00:29:49,250 Well, matt, I like... Yeah, I couldn't agree 800 00:29:49,250 --> 00:29:50,579 more man. It's just 801 00:29:51,178 --> 00:29:52,932 I don't know. I'm super excited about them. 802 00:29:53,091 --> 00:29:54,526 And I can't wait to read your, like, 803 00:29:55,005 --> 00:29:57,158 review and in up and, like, the field 804 00:29:57,158 --> 00:29:58,136 of view differences 805 00:29:58,513 --> 00:30:00,917 and, you know, just all of those things 806 00:30:00,917 --> 00:30:02,986 that you're gonna hit on. I I hope... 807 00:30:03,464 --> 00:30:05,135 And I think the, so you're gonna put 808 00:30:05,135 --> 00:30:07,204 some images up and people will be able 809 00:30:07,204 --> 00:30:09,446 to kinda see a little bit. Mean, it's 810 00:30:09,446 --> 00:30:10,184 hard to 811 00:30:10,797 --> 00:30:12,466 see it in an image without putting it 812 00:30:12,466 --> 00:30:13,896 up to your eyes. Like, I always say 813 00:30:13,896 --> 00:30:16,692 that, like, they're just mind blowing, but III 814 00:30:16,692 --> 00:30:19,159 think people are gonna love seeing gear review 815 00:30:19,159 --> 00:30:20,909 on. I'm excited to see it. I know 816 00:30:20,909 --> 00:30:21,148 that. 817 00:30:22,262 --> 00:30:23,239 Yeah. I think 818 00:30:23,948 --> 00:30:26,260 The stuff like distortion is easy to show 819 00:30:26,260 --> 00:30:27,456 with the digital scoped image. 820 00:30:29,609 --> 00:30:29,848 There's... 821 00:30:30,566 --> 00:30:32,375 You can show some of the 822 00:30:32,734 --> 00:30:35,535 color f from chromatic duration sometimes as long 823 00:30:35,535 --> 00:30:36,515 as you're approximating. 824 00:30:36,894 --> 00:30:39,134 Mh. You're never gonna show the full resolution 825 00:30:39,134 --> 00:30:41,388 and a digit scope image. Yeah. Never happen. 826 00:30:41,627 --> 00:30:43,542 Yep. That the little camera lens is never 827 00:30:43,542 --> 00:30:45,855 gonna capture everything that the knocked can show 828 00:30:45,855 --> 00:30:47,609 your eyeball. Yep. But 829 00:30:48,407 --> 00:30:50,720 I will say that they're not optically perfect. 830 00:30:51,453 --> 00:30:52,331 They they're like, 831 00:30:53,209 --> 00:30:55,125 most of the top ends Sw ras Bin 832 00:30:55,125 --> 00:30:57,838 vernacular have that, like, center field is is 833 00:30:57,838 --> 00:30:59,116 almost perfectly corrected. 834 00:30:59,768 --> 00:31:01,992 And can't see any abe operation. But then 835 00:31:01,992 --> 00:31:03,661 as you go to the edges of that 836 00:31:03,661 --> 00:31:06,441 really wide. I think it's, like, 279 837 00:31:06,441 --> 00:31:07,712 feet to a thousand yards for 838 00:31:08,365 --> 00:31:10,044 till that's impressive. 14, 839 00:31:10,365 --> 00:31:12,845 which is not... You know, there's... There was 840 00:31:12,845 --> 00:31:14,524 a time when that was, like your pretty 841 00:31:14,524 --> 00:31:16,524 standard 10 by. Yeah. That would be. 842 00:31:17,178 --> 00:31:17,496 Yeah. 843 00:31:18,530 --> 00:31:20,838 But but when you get to the edges 844 00:31:20,838 --> 00:31:22,747 of that super wide field of you, you 845 00:31:22,747 --> 00:31:23,543 do start seeing. 846 00:31:24,434 --> 00:31:24,934 Some 847 00:31:25,310 --> 00:31:28,260 some lack of acuity, some chromatic abe operation, 848 00:31:28,500 --> 00:31:30,493 ranging showing, that sort of thing, and you 849 00:31:30,493 --> 00:31:32,406 can you can read about then my review. 850 00:31:33,138 --> 00:31:35,448 They're they're not perfect. They gotta reach some 851 00:31:35,448 --> 00:31:37,757 room, I guess, to improve something. For they 852 00:31:37,757 --> 00:31:40,067 are... The they are the best I've seen. 853 00:31:41,992 --> 00:31:43,128 Above 12 hour 854 00:31:43,582 --> 00:31:43,979 chariot. 855 00:31:44,853 --> 00:31:48,429 That's awesome. Like, yeah. I'd I'd I know 856 00:31:48,429 --> 00:31:50,019 it was just mind blowing. I'd... 857 00:31:51,542 --> 00:31:53,128 I just can't say it enough. Like, I'm 858 00:31:53,128 --> 00:31:55,428 just so blown away, like, looking through him 859 00:31:55,428 --> 00:31:58,046 and, like, what I have thought so far 860 00:31:58,046 --> 00:32:00,928 and just... How they've kind of really exceeded 861 00:32:00,928 --> 00:32:03,480 in almost every way. And it and does 862 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,394 it... Is it where do you... Like, it 863 00:32:05,394 --> 00:32:07,706 almost feels like the field of you is 864 00:32:07,706 --> 00:32:09,787 like, I should I don't wanna say too 865 00:32:09,787 --> 00:32:11,851 much, but it's like, I keep... Like, it's 866 00:32:11,851 --> 00:32:14,310 so big that it just blows my mind 867 00:32:14,310 --> 00:32:14,945 looking through it. 868 00:32:15,993 --> 00:32:17,744 Yeah. You look like you're... You feel like 869 00:32:17,744 --> 00:32:18,858 you're looking around a corner. 870 00:32:19,575 --> 00:32:21,587 I do. Like, it was just 871 00:32:22,201 --> 00:32:23,236 so Ad x. 872 00:32:23,968 --> 00:32:25,481 The Ad XNL, 873 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,472 but that truly it feels like you're looking 874 00:32:27,472 --> 00:32:27,950 around behind. 875 00:32:28,826 --> 00:32:32,012 Basically. You... It's so crazy. Yeah. Yeah. 876 00:32:32,664 --> 00:32:34,255 Yeah. They've done a really great job and 877 00:32:34,255 --> 00:32:36,164 that's sort of where it is, and, you 878 00:32:36,164 --> 00:32:38,948 know, we've gotta give kudos to the competition 879 00:32:38,948 --> 00:32:39,448 because, 880 00:32:40,716 --> 00:32:42,709 So rossi wouldn't be making these kind of, 881 00:32:42,789 --> 00:32:43,688 like, amazing, 882 00:32:45,261 --> 00:32:47,653 you know, boundary pushing op if it wasn't 883 00:32:47,653 --> 00:32:49,842 for these other companies, pushing them 884 00:32:50,537 --> 00:32:52,130 to do it. So For sure. It's a 885 00:32:52,130 --> 00:32:54,360 good time for hunters. No. That is so 886 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,749 true. Like, and it it's gonna be interesting 887 00:32:56,749 --> 00:32:59,893 to kinda see... What the other companies answers 888 00:33:00,031 --> 00:33:01,705 are, you know, and, like, can... 889 00:33:02,502 --> 00:33:04,255 It's just gonna be really interesting to see 890 00:33:04,255 --> 00:33:06,183 how things progress over the next. You know, 891 00:33:06,422 --> 00:33:09,049 05:10 years. It's just wild Crazy time to 892 00:33:09,049 --> 00:33:11,439 be a a hundred for sure. Seems like 893 00:33:11,439 --> 00:33:13,748 every year, there's something awesome coming out. So 894 00:33:13,748 --> 00:33:14,226 it's wild. 895 00:33:15,117 --> 00:33:18,067 Yeah. Especially recently, we've had some really good 896 00:33:18,067 --> 00:33:18,386 releases. 897 00:33:18,944 --> 00:33:19,444 And 898 00:33:20,538 --> 00:33:22,611 from from the emails, I'm getting there's more 899 00:33:22,611 --> 00:33:25,098 common. So... Well, that's great to hear. Can 900 00:33:25,258 --> 00:33:26,795 Eye on that hunting optic, 901 00:33:27,491 --> 00:33:28,368 market because yeah. 902 00:33:29,246 --> 00:33:31,798 Yeah. So, Matt, I'm gonna throw some links 903 00:33:31,798 --> 00:33:32,697 up to 904 00:33:33,486 --> 00:33:36,184 your review on these 4. I'm also gonna 905 00:33:36,184 --> 00:33:38,486 throw some links up to your reviews of 906 00:33:38,486 --> 00:33:39,858 some of the other bin particulars 907 00:33:40,231 --> 00:33:41,604 especially that that 12 908 00:33:41,913 --> 00:33:43,896 I think a lot of people are kinda 909 00:33:43,896 --> 00:33:44,927 sitting on the fence. 910 00:33:46,117 --> 00:33:48,734 I... I've had a couple people just mentioned 911 00:33:48,734 --> 00:33:49,369 to me. Like, 912 00:33:50,099 --> 00:33:52,574 So do you go with the 14? Do 913 00:33:52,574 --> 00:33:53,692 you go with the 12? 914 00:33:54,251 --> 00:33:55,368 Do you go with the 10? And I'm 915 00:33:55,368 --> 00:33:56,885 like, I don't know It depends on your 916 00:33:56,885 --> 00:33:58,961 budget and there all that has to play 917 00:33:58,961 --> 00:33:59,734 in, but 918 00:34:00,253 --> 00:34:03,605 this 14, it really is unbelievable light. I 919 00:34:03,605 --> 00:34:05,760 don't know. It's hard to answer that question 920 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,835 for... If you had to have 1 ocular, 921 00:34:08,648 --> 00:34:10,323 maybe the 12 is the answer. I don't 922 00:34:10,323 --> 00:34:11,142 know. But 923 00:34:11,519 --> 00:34:11,759 this... 924 00:34:12,636 --> 00:34:14,391 I don't know. Maybe he could get away 925 00:34:14,391 --> 00:34:15,667 with, I don't know. It depends on your 926 00:34:15,667 --> 00:34:17,102 style of hunting, I guess, A lot that 927 00:34:17,102 --> 00:34:17,661 goes into it. 928 00:34:18,553 --> 00:34:19,987 I would I would tell you that if 929 00:34:19,987 --> 00:34:22,219 it was me, and I'm just not 1 930 00:34:22,219 --> 00:34:25,486 bin kinda guy. Yeah. Me too. I'm gonna 931 00:34:25,486 --> 00:34:27,333 go... I'm gonna go with the tens for 932 00:34:27,333 --> 00:34:29,801 my everyday, and then I would skip the 933 00:34:29,801 --> 00:34:31,893 12 and go at these. Yes. I'm a 934 00:34:32,269 --> 00:34:33,543 magnification 1. That's the way I would go. 935 00:34:33,703 --> 00:34:34,101 Personally. 936 00:34:34,514 --> 00:34:37,720 And I... That's how, I am set up 937 00:34:37,937 --> 00:34:40,166 right now is, like the 10, I think, 938 00:34:41,121 --> 00:34:43,530 just for an all around. Handle, like, to 939 00:34:43,530 --> 00:34:46,010 be walking around, your hiking and you see 940 00:34:46,010 --> 00:34:46,410 something, 941 00:34:46,890 --> 00:34:48,890 you know, up in the timber, whatever you're 942 00:34:48,890 --> 00:34:51,399 doing, either still very usable on a tripod 943 00:34:51,456 --> 00:34:53,926 way out a distance, but I I agree. 944 00:34:54,165 --> 00:34:55,998 That's that's my thoughts too. In 12. 945 00:34:56,555 --> 00:34:58,547 I just feel like there's something about that 946 00:34:58,547 --> 00:34:58,865 10, 947 00:34:59,359 --> 00:35:02,385 like, handheld image that's, like, crisp enough the 948 00:35:02,385 --> 00:35:02,885 is 949 00:35:03,420 --> 00:35:05,969 so great and the 12. I I mean, 950 00:35:06,128 --> 00:35:08,039 it's good. I know you can handle, like, 951 00:35:08,375 --> 00:35:10,614 it's good, but I don't know. I agree. 952 00:35:10,775 --> 00:35:11,894 That's where I land too. 953 00:35:13,255 --> 00:35:15,335 Well, and some some hunters are gonna go 954 00:35:15,335 --> 00:35:17,255 for the 12 and find it that perfect 955 00:35:17,255 --> 00:35:19,737 balance. Between, you know, sure. But 956 00:35:21,567 --> 00:35:23,396 it is it is it is hard to 957 00:35:23,396 --> 00:35:24,374 beat these 4 958 00:35:24,922 --> 00:35:25,240 And 959 00:35:26,112 --> 00:35:27,938 and the 10 is always gonna be the 960 00:35:27,938 --> 00:35:30,318 king and pretty sure. Yeah. I think so. 961 00:35:30,556 --> 00:35:32,952 I think it'll always. Yeah. There's just something 962 00:35:32,952 --> 00:35:34,959 out of 10 power ocular. I don't know 963 00:35:35,015 --> 00:35:36,681 if it's just, like, what are I... Like, 964 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,856 they're just... Yeah. The... It's it's pretty hard 965 00:35:39,856 --> 00:35:40,253 to be. 966 00:35:41,380 --> 00:35:41,618 Yeah. 967 00:35:42,413 --> 00:35:44,082 Well, dude Thank you so much for jumping 968 00:35:44,082 --> 00:35:46,307 on, man. This was kinda of short and 969 00:35:46,307 --> 00:35:48,612 sweet. Check out match reviews, everyone. 970 00:35:50,139 --> 00:35:52,132 And maybe just mention the Cow, 971 00:35:52,849 --> 00:35:55,003 the 55. You would would you just mention 972 00:35:55,003 --> 00:35:57,634 briefly, Like, what are, like, that's coming out 973 00:35:57,634 --> 00:35:58,750 too. You're working on that? 974 00:35:59,403 --> 00:36:00,840 Maybe talk about that a little bit. 975 00:36:02,276 --> 00:36:05,489 Yeah. Well, we're talking about that sort of 976 00:36:05,867 --> 00:36:06,825 competition pushing. 977 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:08,750 These cal. And 978 00:36:09,545 --> 00:36:12,114 and I understand that this... The pillow was 979 00:36:12,727 --> 00:36:14,994 in the works prior to to the Atc 980 00:36:15,135 --> 00:36:17,214 being reviewed, but the Atc kinda. 981 00:36:18,734 --> 00:36:21,214 Yeah know. Took over that ultra compact. 982 00:36:21,855 --> 00:36:24,190 To market, and I did my review on 983 00:36:24,190 --> 00:36:25,089 it, which 984 00:36:26,030 --> 00:36:27,549 people can read on rock side. 985 00:36:28,349 --> 00:36:30,510 But now I'm adding in the the new 986 00:36:30,510 --> 00:36:31,684 ko 55 987 00:36:32,041 --> 00:36:33,866 and they did something very similar to Sw 988 00:36:33,866 --> 00:36:34,842 ras. They 989 00:36:35,214 --> 00:36:37,222 adapted their big spot 990 00:36:37,832 --> 00:36:39,260 wet angle zoom piece. 991 00:36:40,149 --> 00:36:40,866 To the, 992 00:36:42,700 --> 00:36:44,932 compact spotter. And it's not the same. I... 993 00:36:45,171 --> 00:36:46,766 It's not the same ips in that you 994 00:36:46,766 --> 00:36:47,266 can 995 00:36:47,723 --> 00:36:48,462 remove it 996 00:36:49,174 --> 00:36:50,772 you know, and you get on other spotter, 997 00:36:51,012 --> 00:36:53,090 it's it's a fixed it's fixed to the 998 00:36:53,090 --> 00:36:54,709 scope, but it is 999 00:36:55,088 --> 00:36:56,686 based on the same design and so you 1000 00:36:56,686 --> 00:36:58,855 get that really high performance. From that full 1001 00:36:58,855 --> 00:36:59,650 size Ips. 1002 00:37:00,286 --> 00:37:01,661 And the effect 1003 00:37:02,115 --> 00:37:04,046 is pretty dramatic. And 1004 00:37:04,739 --> 00:37:07,941 the Atc is not standing alone at the 1005 00:37:07,941 --> 00:37:10,516 top anymore. And people that 1006 00:37:11,213 --> 00:37:11,713 appreciate 1007 00:37:12,092 --> 00:37:13,050 a dual focus, 1008 00:37:13,528 --> 00:37:14,646 traditional knob, spotter, 1009 00:37:16,965 --> 00:37:17,465 or 1010 00:37:17,996 --> 00:37:20,137 they already have a bunch of digit scoping 1011 00:37:20,137 --> 00:37:20,637 accessories 1012 00:37:21,010 --> 00:37:22,913 for their full size core or whatever, 1013 00:37:23,483 --> 00:37:25,791 they're gonna really appreciate that little 55 day. 1014 00:37:26,269 --> 00:37:28,656 That's awesome. It's a really nice spotter. 1015 00:37:29,771 --> 00:37:31,919 As far as optics go, it's another sort 1016 00:37:31,919 --> 00:37:32,635 of spoiler. 1017 00:37:33,764 --> 00:37:35,535 For that review, but 1018 00:37:36,148 --> 00:37:38,452 you're not gonna choose between those 2 spot 1019 00:37:38,452 --> 00:37:39,168 based on a, 1020 00:37:40,757 --> 00:37:41,575 resolution chart 1021 00:37:42,283 --> 00:37:43,718 either close or far. 1022 00:37:44,356 --> 00:37:46,109 You're not gonna be able to choose between 1023 00:37:46,109 --> 00:37:48,819 them based on field of view the specs 1024 00:37:48,819 --> 00:37:49,617 are so similar. 1025 00:37:50,906 --> 00:37:52,976 But it's really gonna be that experience. Do 1026 00:37:52,976 --> 00:37:55,069 you want a fully rubber armored 1027 00:37:55,525 --> 00:37:57,755 spotter with a helical full focus in the 1028 00:37:57,755 --> 00:37:59,923 middle or if do you want a traditional 1029 00:37:59,923 --> 00:38:00,423 spotter 1030 00:38:01,122 --> 00:38:02,800 with the dual rate focus, 1031 00:38:03,599 --> 00:38:05,197 and you can make your decision outlook. 1032 00:38:05,756 --> 00:38:08,244 That's awesome. Well that... That sounds good. Because 1033 00:38:08,404 --> 00:38:10,793 Cow kinda had the the small spotter market, 1034 00:38:11,032 --> 00:38:11,749 I kinda felt like, 1035 00:38:12,785 --> 00:38:13,285 before 1036 00:38:13,740 --> 00:38:15,674 Sw ops come out with the com compact, 1037 00:38:16,463 --> 00:38:18,293 And now it's cool like that they're kinda, 1038 00:38:18,452 --> 00:38:20,122 you know, getting right back up there, and, 1039 00:38:20,202 --> 00:38:21,554 yeah, that's this is awesome. 1040 00:38:22,827 --> 00:38:25,559 Yeah. Those spot... Those 2 companies have spotting 1041 00:38:25,559 --> 00:38:27,320 stuff pretty much in the thanks. Yeah. 1042 00:38:28,519 --> 00:38:30,039 Well, it's good. It's good to... And it's 1043 00:38:30,039 --> 00:38:31,960 good to see competition like you said. I... 1044 00:38:32,213 --> 00:38:34,463 I think you're exactly right? We wouldn't see, 1045 00:38:34,757 --> 00:38:36,745 you know, all of these boundaries being pushed 1046 00:38:36,745 --> 00:38:37,858 without it, so it's awesome. 1047 00:38:39,209 --> 00:38:39,448 Yeah. 1048 00:38:40,258 --> 00:38:42,644 In time. Yeah. For us west Western hunters 1049 00:38:42,644 --> 00:38:44,394 are like to look a long way. For 1050 00:38:44,394 --> 00:38:46,702 sure. Well, it's so good that companies care 1051 00:38:46,702 --> 00:38:48,452 about it too because I mean... 1052 00:38:49,183 --> 00:38:50,480 It's a... I'm glad 1053 00:38:51,176 --> 00:38:52,451 I mean, you know, because there's... 1054 00:38:53,248 --> 00:38:54,922 I mean, a big high power bin vernacular 1055 00:38:54,922 --> 00:38:56,356 is kind of probably not... 1056 00:38:57,009 --> 00:38:58,128 You know, at the top of a lot 1057 00:38:58,128 --> 00:39:00,285 of the burden communities list. I don't know 1058 00:39:00,285 --> 00:39:02,442 maybe it is, but... So I don't think 1059 00:39:02,523 --> 00:39:04,620 Yeah. I mean. I'm pretty seriously 1060 00:39:05,014 --> 00:39:05,514 her. 1061 00:39:06,125 --> 00:39:08,610 So it's it's just awesome to see 1062 00:39:09,460 --> 00:39:11,207 that we are being thought about. That's a 1063 00:39:11,207 --> 00:39:14,007 really good thing. So... For You. Yeah. What 1064 00:39:14,007 --> 00:39:15,603 it goes to show you that that hunters 1065 00:39:15,603 --> 00:39:17,199 are willing to spend their money kid? Yes. 1066 00:39:17,518 --> 00:39:17,918 For sure. 1067 00:39:18,715 --> 00:39:20,312 Yeah. And I think... I know I know 1068 00:39:20,391 --> 00:39:20,891 I 1069 00:39:21,602 --> 00:39:24,297 I know it's bad. I like, go, I 1070 00:39:24,456 --> 00:39:26,517 I kind know it's, like, I don't see 1071 00:39:26,517 --> 00:39:28,999 any newer releases for a little while because 1072 00:39:29,309 --> 00:39:31,303 Jeez. It's getting to kinda out of control 1073 00:39:31,303 --> 00:39:33,616 my wife. She was, like, you got another 1074 00:39:33,616 --> 00:39:34,116 pair, 1075 00:39:34,493 --> 00:39:35,530 and I'm like, yeah. 1076 00:39:37,125 --> 00:39:38,641 Yeah. I did. So... Yeah. 1077 00:39:40,333 --> 00:39:42,251 Well, Matt, thank you so much, man. 1078 00:39:43,610 --> 00:39:44,809 Yeah. Thank you, Travis. 1079 00:39:45,448 --> 00:39:47,067 It's good to talk to you again, and 1080 00:39:47,366 --> 00:39:48,165 we'll talk in soon. 1081 00:39:52,168 --> 00:39:53,603 With the help of sports men and women 1082 00:39:53,603 --> 00:39:55,994 and concerned citizens, we can defeat the hunting 1083 00:39:55,994 --> 00:39:58,000 bands here in Colorado. Go to save the 1084 00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:59,907 hunt colorado dot com. Thanks for listening.