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The first thing that you should ask yourself

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whether you're hunting early season or late season

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is what are my Ambient temperatures and what

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can I expect in that temperature range? For

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the way this meat is gonna transition from

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on the Car as to table for hair.

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And there's some magic numbers that we can

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all remember, and I think to keep it

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simple, we'll just we'll start at the lower

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temperature range. If we're gonna talk about early

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season hunting, an average good temperature would be

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50 degrees. You hope for a 50 degree

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Today's show is all about the early season.

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First, we take a deep dive into the

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science of Me care, then we learn about

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sick, first light, fur, and sc gears, favorite

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pieces to keep us comfortable when the temperatures

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start to climb. So let's jump on in.

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Alright. Today's guest is Larry Bartlett, longtime time

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Rock slide member, but more importantly, Larry has

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been involved in the outdoor industry for over

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2 decades.

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Larry was innovative in the development and testing

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of synthetic game bags and created tag bags,

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still some of the best bags you can

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buy. Larry started Pristine adventures in 20 19

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and helped hundreds of guys plan and execute

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our Alaskan adventures. Larry personal draw to Alaska

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back, country forced them to design, upgrade and

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revolutionize how pac are utilized to get hunters

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and their meat out of the remote wilderness.

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Larry has authored multiple books on the subject

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and released a ton of informative videos. Larry

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has been focused on maximizing by country me

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care. And frankly, Larry has most comprehensive

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data collection on field conditions and meet temperatures,

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so he's definitely a meat care expert, and

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that's why I've asked him on today's Tips,

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Tuesday, Welcome to the show, Larry. Hey. Thank

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you. Appreciate that, Sam. Like we kinda talked

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about, I was trying to gear up a

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little bit for myself a little more of

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on this subject and I just felt, like

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a freshman minute at college. Man, there's so

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much information that you've put out and pumped

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out there so much data you collected. And

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I truly appreciate and you know, just your

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focus on the main aspect of hunting for

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me, which is getting the groceries home.

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Yeah. That's a great way to put it.

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You know, To be honest, you know, even

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in the army, I always assumed the shit

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tasks, you know, like, I was a medic

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for the first 5 years in industry. You

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know, what am...

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Shit jobs literally was filled sanitation, and I

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had to, you know, dick trenches and do

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the things that nobody else really wanted to

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do. And Guess I kind of excel at

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that. That appearance in the army, just let

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let me know that crap jobs are really

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also important. And when I got into Hunting,

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really had a lot of resources in Alaska

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about how to deal with me long term,

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and all of my experience was White tail

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hunting growing up, We never

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spent more than 3 or 4 days with

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meat, you know, in camp. We generally had

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a truck or a formula wheeler or something

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available for

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transportation, and we got in and got out

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with our animals and me care for that

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reason was never a great channel at. And

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therefore, I didn't develop a lot of hands

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on skill set. But when I got to

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Alaska, 1 of the first things I realized

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and on the very first hump that I

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did, which was off of the road system.

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I drove in behind a... Yeah. Allison Air

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force space in the Yukon training area and

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fair banks,

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shot my first moves in 09:19 95. He

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shouted at a mile and a half from

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the road straight down in Valley, and

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shot this nice little meat meatball who was

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only like, 500 pounds, maybe with just the

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leg bones and the rest of the meat,

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but it took us 3 days to get

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that animal, from that mile and a half

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point down in the valley back up to

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the road and all the loads.

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It was a task that I never wanted

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to repeat. So that winter I bought my

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first inflatable boat. And I went down a

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Kmart and just got the shit,

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you know, rap that I could find, thinking

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that that would be just fine for Alaska

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rivers, and that in 19 95.

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hunting in Alaska and wilderness Me care. And

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over the years, it's just been a task

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that I've assumed so that I can educate

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the guests that I'm responsible before coming to

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Alaska to hunt. They're mirror images of myself

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30 years ago, coming here with very limited,

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extended me care skill sets. And so my...

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professional career, and I just kinda somehow became

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1 of the meat care experts in the

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state. I don't mind the task, but it

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it does require a lot of

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diligence

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and, you know, prudent note taking and luckily,

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I just... That's just part of my Mo,

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so it was easy for me to collect

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some of this data. The hardest part was

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to have all of the data and then

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reg it or break it down if you

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will dumb it down to an audience that,

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frankly, they're not scientist. They never will be

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their hunters. And they just need some basic

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skill sets on how to take care of

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me for 4 to 12 days. The 1

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thing I noticed right off, and I have

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your books and I also watch your video

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matter of fact right before we did this.

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But it said, bacteria can double in numbers

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every 20 minutes, and and every 10 degrees

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increase in temperature. So, I mean, that was

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just the difference between 75 degrees. Fahrenheit and

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55 degrees. Fahrenheit is amazing. Oh my gosh.

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to just to give our audience, you know,

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the the best... Of the best 20 minutes

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of discussion, I would say, think of bacteria

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as available, plentiful all over the environment. And

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as soon as you exposed to the skin

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and you you you see your your meat

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cuts. That's where your concerns began, and you

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have to start casting yourself. First and foremost,

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what's the ambient temperature? Most don't necessarily carry

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a thermometer, but we should have some means

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of identifying what our storage temperature will be

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for the next, say 48 hours. So with

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bacteria they're interesting and really not really interesting

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thing about bacteria as it does double depending

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on... And we're not talking just doubling, like,

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literally, 1 cell becomes 2 and under a

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microscope, every 20 minutes, you've seen 3 cycles

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of this happen. And you can follow the

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life of a of a bacteria cell, but

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that still is an answer. Why why is

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bacteria important? Which ones are harmful? What's gonna

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call spoil And what I can say about

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that is, if you have a bacteria problem

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on your me, the first way that you're

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gonna identify it is by smell. And to

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reach a level that humans can smell bacteria

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on meat, that means that it's in the

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billions of cells.

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itself, you're smelling all the off products or

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the the byproducts, the waste of the bacteria

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as they'd multiply and live and die. All

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of those cells start to collect and sometimes

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it's slime. Sometimes it's within mold and slime.

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has a funky smell and you're not quite

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sure. That's what you're do dealing with with

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bacteria because you you don't see the actual

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bacteria. You just see the the leftovers the

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waste from the bacteria. The first thing that

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you should ask yourself whether you're hunting early

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season or late season is what are my

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Ambient temperatures and what can I expect in

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that temperature range? For the way this meat

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is gonna transition from on the Car as

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to table fare. And there's some magic numbers

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that we can all remember, and I think

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to keep it simple. We'll just we'll start

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at the lower temperature range. If we're gonna

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talk about early season hunting,

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an average good temperature would be 50 degrees

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you would hope for a 50 degree day.

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eighties and in some areas. So what I

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try to do is understand where I am

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and in whatever environment and decide some level

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of prediction, what are my... What's the next

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week gonna be or more specifically, the next,

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the 3 days after you shoot an animal,

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what is the average daily temperature? What's the

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lowest and highest

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daytime and nighttime temperature so that you can

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find an actual average for the day? And

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mosquitoes come out, at 50 degrees, blow flies

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become active. So bacteria is not really a

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threat at 50 degrees. Anything below 50 degrees.

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you can do a lot of hands on

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tactics, to reduce the amount of bacteria that

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even stays on your meat regardless of where

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what an environment you're in. But at 50

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threat becomes the blow fly. And without proper

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precautions or mitigation, those blow flies are gonna

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just land on your meat and

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blow little maggots that you don't see for

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8 or 10 hours. And then depending on

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the temperature within 12 hours, you're gonna see

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eggs develop wherever those blow flies were crawling

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around in the folds of your meat and

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places where you're not actually observing because you're

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taking meat off the car. Right? So 1

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of the first things that I would suggest

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in especially early season or above 50 degrees

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is have a... So soluble solution around of

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citric acid, and hut who are backpack savvy,

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know that you can buy powdered form citric

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acid online and just mix you know, an

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ounce of citric acid powder to a whole

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court of drinking water, shake that eyebrow well

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as long as that as acidity kind remind

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you of a really tart lemon lemonade or

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lemon juice, urine in and acidic

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solution discussion. And that's the part that is

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gonna prevent those blow flies from deciding your

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meat surface is a comfortable place to blow

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its eggs. The trickery is what, you know,

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I call it is what we're trying to

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do is we're trying to delay and trick.

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and into thinking that this meat is not

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worthy of them to blow eggs onto and

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the first way to do that is to

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coat it with a light spray or, you

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know, just a a really light spray or

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a mist all over your meat, and that...

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Gives you an acidic surface that the blow

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flies don't trust. So they're gonna go somewhere

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else and do their magic. Bacteria

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we're not putting the citric acid and on

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an early season above 50 degrees for bacteria

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necessarily. Primarily, we're using that to re return

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blow fly activity. Now,

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between 50 and 60 degrees fahrenheit,

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something else starts to occur. Between 50 and

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60 is a storage temperature that you can

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work with for

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extended periods say 3 or 4, maybe even

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5 days in the field. But as your

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meat temperatures need resting meat temperature and we'll

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come back to temperature

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of the meat itself in just a few

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minutes, but the storage temperature right now is

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what we're talking about. At 50 and 60

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degrees, your meat is gonna find a balance

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somewhere close to that 58 to 60 degree

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temperature threshold, and what happens at 60 degrees

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is fat,

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oxidation, and enzyme auto isis, and that's too

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fancy words to say your fats gonna start

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spoiling, and that becomes source bacteria that's gonna

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waste the rest of your hi corner or

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your front shoulder, wherever that fat is and

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if it goes ran, everything around, it's also

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gonna have a dead zoned, you're gonna have

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to trim, that fat becomes a concern and

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you need to remove it in early season

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hunts, even if you're used to keeping it

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in and that say in a September an

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October hunt environment, that fat will be a

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problem if it reach reaches 60 degrees and

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stays there for any, any length of times,

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say, 12 to 18 hours in warm temperatures,

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you're gonna start smelling the difference between edible

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fad and and that which she wouldn't wanna

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eat. And by the time you smell it

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like that, remembering the bacteria in those temperature

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zones can double if not triple in in

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an hour in its colony size, the faster

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you can remove all of that fat the

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better, and I'll come back to that as

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well. But... Yeah. So go ahead. Oh, I

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was just gonna say an an ounce of

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prevention is worth a pound of cure there.

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So simply just cut it off. Cut it

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off immediately, you know...

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I remove all of the facing meat. Everything

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that's observable and place it on a tarp,

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and that's from from the kill shot to

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when I'm dis memory an animal hopefully is

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within the hour. And it's not critical to

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remove the fat immediately because basically, what you

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have is a... You have a window of

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about 24 hours. That bacteria. Even if you

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had pissed on a leg or you open

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a bladder and it poured urine all over

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a high quarter or even you laid it

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down in a area that it had poop

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in and it contaminated your meat. Even if

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he did nothing to that meat cut and

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laid it there, backed bacteria won't start to

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develop in those areas for about 24 hours,

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and that's because bacteria have to go through

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a lag time when they hit a new

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environment, It's, like, a it's a threshold of

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time where they're not active, but there's trying

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to establish credibility in their environment. That means

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the temperature has to be perfect. The nutrients

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have to be available, water and moisture have

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to be available and the acidity has to

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be just right, and they won't know that

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for about 24 hours. So the most critical

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time that you have to for lack of

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a better word, mess around with your gain,

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you got that 24 hour period where you

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can make a lot of mistakes and get

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it really messy if you had to, if

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the environment was shitty, but after that 24

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hours, you really have to be diligent on

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your hands on application. And that means removing

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all the fat, if it's above 60 degrees

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outside. And take it off immediately, all all

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of the good stuff that you would off

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of behind quarter. Typically, we would leave and

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maybe even grind up on some animals, but

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it's it's not worth the... The wrist in

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terms of fat.

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But above 60 degrees, we... You've got concerns.

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So keep in mind, let's back up to

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your temperatures for a sec second. I know

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we can kind of

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flesh out the rest of that conversation. But

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when your animal dies and it's laying on

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the ground. If you took a core temperature,

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it's gonna be about a hundred and 1

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degrees, So right there, you have,

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a meat cut, say, a whole high quarter

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on a moose that's hundred and 50 pounds

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of, hundred and 1 degree temperature meat. And

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your priority is to get that meat core

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temperature, the the temperature of the meat is

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as low as you can above freezing. And

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ideally, in early season hunts, you know, that

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might mean 45

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to 56

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degrees core temperature in 36 hours. For... But

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the first 24 hours, if you had a

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a meat thermometer, you would you would notice

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what dam. That meat still 80 degrees. It's

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only... It's... 4 hours ago and it's still

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80, you know, I'm in trouble. I gotta

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do something else. You really don't. You need

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to realize that first 24 hours is also

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a period where your temperature 4 your what's

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called the thermal regulation will decrease and find

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a homeostasis and that balance between the the

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daily temperature average, and the me corps will

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balance out at about 48 to 72 hours.

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But generally, about 2 days into your meat

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care, your meat temperature will be

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very close within 1 to 2 degrees of

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your average daily temperature. And that's an interesting

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little side tip that, can give you a

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peace of mind for that critical first 24

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hour period we're... You're not too worried about

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that meat as long as you put it

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in a an environment where it's gonna foster

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wind and shade and dripping ability, you know,

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plenty of, surface area exposed to your gain

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bags so that your meat can drain and

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sweat properly, and that's also reducing moisture and

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temperature along that way. But at 24 hours,

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you should notice that the meat is down

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close to 50 degrees. You know, if the

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ambient temperatures allow. K it'll probably be somewhere

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between 50 and 60 degrees at 24 hours,

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early season hunts, even if the daytime temperatures

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are, you know, climbing into the seventies. At

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nighttime, you could usually with wind and shade

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and time, you can get that core temperature

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down pretty well. Just with your ambient environment,

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without a cooler necessary or ice. Yeah. And

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I think 1 of the key things that

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you always bring up to is storing it

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in a proper area, You know, if you

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can get somewhere with shade with the good

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breeze, you really do yourself a favor even

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when the temperatures rise up. Yeah. And you

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do and 1 of the mistakes that we...

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Sheep hunters have to make sometimes, for example,

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I'm using sheep on it because we're typically

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backpack packing in, Elk Connor do the same

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thing, but what I've noticed is you get

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an animal down in the mountains, your urge

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just to just get off the mountain. That

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may take the rest of the day, 8

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hours, 10 hours to get back into a

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flat.

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Rap river habitat, and, we have a tendency

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to kill the animal, dis member it, get

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into our backpacks and then rock off the

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mountain, you know, or out of the bush

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to get closer to our vehicle or closer

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to our takeout or transportation. And if the

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temperatures are warm, say in the seventies

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75,

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80 during in the day, and you're still

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getting, you know, 50 degree nights, the best

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tactic might be to

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instead of using that first 24 hours to

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blaze out of the mountains, give yourself a

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full day to let that meet rest and

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drain and sweat and cool in its temperatures,

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so that you're not putting a hundred degree

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temperature meat into a plastic line backpack and

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closing it up with no wind circulation, and

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it's just gathering heat all day while you're

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hiking, you could do more damaging that scenario

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then giving yourself 12 to 24 hours setting

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at or near the kill side, letting me

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grass,

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to prepare yourself for a a physical local

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transport or that meat out of the field.

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Yeah. I really never even thought about that.

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You know, you're basically just baking it on

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your back while carrying it out. Yeah. And

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and it it won't matter if your objective

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is 2 to 3 days from the time

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that you kill the animal. It almost won't

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matter what temperatures you're hunting in because... The

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meat probably not going to spoil if you

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use that first 24 hours tactically, meaning, your

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goal is to let that meat sweat and

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drain and cool as much as it possibly

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can so that it stabilizes,

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nothing's gonna happen in that first 24 hours

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in terms of bacterial growth, but the difference

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between post harvest 24 hours and 72 hours

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is really critical for me because it's it's

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trying to find a a balance with the

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with the temperatures

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around itself. And, you know, the... If you

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if you wait 3 days and then pack

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it out, the meat gonna be down to

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basically at a little over the average nighttime

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temperatures if you kept in the shade and

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in the wind during the day, you can

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manage it quite well. So we hunters have

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this conundrum, and we either have to get

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in on our backs and with hot as

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me and just get off the mountain. If

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your truck is 2 days away, maybe that's

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the best scenario. But if you're 3 or

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4 or 5 days away from your transportation,

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you know,

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it preclude us to think more tactically with

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how we transport the game and and what

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hour we start that transport even developing a,

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like, a safe protocol for moving off the

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mountains, sometimes resting in place for 12 to

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24 hours is is best for your physical

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body and and your care strategy.

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I'm glad you brought that up because that's

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something that we don't normally think about. Like,

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I don't know if I've ever really thought

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about that. Cooling it down enough so that

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I'm not putting it directly in my backpack

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and base just heat it up on my

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way down? Yeah. Because you're re you're re

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restarting the the heat. You're you're basically fostering

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heat retention in the meat by closing it

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up, put it in plastic. And then your

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son, the sun, weather gonna just be concentrated

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on that that exposed backpack pack. It's just

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gonna or it's gonna prolong the time it

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put takes for that meat to come down

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to a safe resting temperature. But again, it's

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it's 1 of those things where you have

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to decide well, Might... If I'm only 2

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days away from the truck, takes maybe that's

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my best option is to just do it

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while the meats hot and just get it

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over with the first day or get as

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close as you can to the vehicle and

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then rest for a day and just let

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that drain and and sweat and airflow work

514
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its magic on reducing the core temperature of

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your me. Because the faster you can get

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it down, the better a commercial meat industry

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when they kill a cow, their objective after

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they wash that car is to rapidly cool

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it to 33 degrees. And they keep it

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between 33 and 42 degrees for 12 days,

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minimum, and that's kind of the the standard

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00:20:20,571 --> 00:20:22,583
for a beef and poor. So the faster

523
00:20:22,583 --> 00:20:24,820
we can get that temperature down below 50

524
00:20:24,820 --> 00:20:27,457
degrees or close to that 50 degree threshold,

525
00:20:27,697 --> 00:20:30,107
the better or preventing bacteria open. Growth and

526
00:20:30,107 --> 00:20:33,136
the longevity or your me. So we talked

527
00:20:33,136 --> 00:20:35,925
about citric acid on, warmer than 60 degree

528
00:20:35,925 --> 00:20:37,280
fahrenheit high temperature zones.

529
00:20:38,012 --> 00:20:40,240
Again, you would wanna use that just 1

530
00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,230
spray over all the services and let that

531
00:20:42,230 --> 00:20:44,856
dry preferably for a few minutes before you

532
00:20:44,856 --> 00:20:46,448
slip it the game bags for, you know,

533
00:20:46,607 --> 00:20:47,059
your best

534
00:20:47,578 --> 00:20:49,512
blow fly and and bacterial

535
00:20:50,128 --> 00:20:51,186
prevention strategies.

536
00:20:51,563 --> 00:20:54,193
And with citric acid, if you do choose

537
00:20:54,193 --> 00:20:56,605
to use that, you basically do it every

538
00:20:56,605 --> 00:20:59,244
other day and you stop on day 4.

539
00:20:59,484 --> 00:21:01,244
There's no need to do more than 2,

540
00:21:01,644 --> 00:21:02,625
maybe 3

541
00:21:02,924 --> 00:21:05,333
applications over the... The field life of that

542
00:21:05,333 --> 00:21:07,643
meat. So the more citric acid you use,

543
00:21:07,882 --> 00:21:10,192
you're basically the if you are diligent or

544
00:21:10,192 --> 00:21:12,104
over diligent and used it every day for

545
00:21:12,104 --> 00:21:14,430
4 or 5 days, you might see your

546
00:21:14,430 --> 00:21:17,380
surface of your meat, turn gray or brown,

547
00:21:17,699 --> 00:21:19,613
kind of a just an una appealing, you

548
00:21:19,613 --> 00:21:21,846
know, texture, and that's because of the acid

549
00:21:21,846 --> 00:21:24,726
burn. But all my studies, you know, albeit,

550
00:21:24,885 --> 00:21:27,114
they are my own studies. So if someone

551
00:21:27,114 --> 00:21:30,153
had other studies to contradict what I'm... Saying,

552
00:21:30,312 --> 00:21:31,743
I, I'm not aware of them. But I

553
00:21:31,743 --> 00:21:33,810
can only tell you that the bacterial test

554
00:21:33,810 --> 00:21:36,355
that I've done, it's negligible to use citric

555
00:21:36,355 --> 00:21:38,000
acid after day 4 because

556
00:21:38,519 --> 00:21:40,839
bacteria that where there already dining. And unless

557
00:21:40,839 --> 00:21:43,960
there's new exposed services with bacteria, that citric

558
00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,575
acid is done, everything it's gonna do with

559
00:21:46,854 --> 00:21:49,962
basically, 2 applications. Once on day 1, once

560
00:21:49,962 --> 00:21:52,434
on day 3, and then I discontinue it

561
00:21:52,434 --> 00:21:54,188
on day 4 regardless of how many times

562
00:21:54,268 --> 00:21:54,746
I've used it.

563
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,559
And, of course, you know, your game bags

564
00:21:57,559 --> 00:21:59,720
just make sure that you pull your draw

565
00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,039
strings and keep the ability of those flies

566
00:22:02,039 --> 00:22:04,440
from entering those bags because they can go

567
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,772
in tiniest of holes if your draws strings

568
00:22:06,772 --> 00:22:08,609
aren't pulled up and those clips aren't tight,

569
00:22:09,089 --> 00:22:10,607
a lot of meat can be wasted at

570
00:22:10,607 --> 00:22:12,938
early season when those blow flies are super

571
00:22:12,938 --> 00:22:15,248
active. That starts at 50 degrees and they

572
00:22:15,248 --> 00:22:17,958
really become aggressive at 60 degrees and beyond.

573
00:22:18,197 --> 00:22:20,005
Yeah. For sure. I like to wrap my

574
00:22:20,203 --> 00:22:22,193
string around after I pull it tight, wrap

575
00:22:22,193 --> 00:22:24,262
the string around it and then pull it

576
00:22:24,262 --> 00:22:25,934
once, and that gives me that little bit

577
00:22:25,934 --> 00:22:27,446
extra. Yeah. Exactly.

578
00:22:27,939 --> 00:22:30,254
To follow up on everything that we discussed,

579
00:22:30,493 --> 00:22:32,249
there was a video on my Youtube channel,

580
00:22:32,728 --> 00:22:35,522
you could just Google you Larry Bartlett, Youtube

581
00:22:35,522 --> 00:22:38,110
or Larry Bartlett last. Guy, I think my

582
00:22:38,327 --> 00:22:39,623
sign is, like, willingness

583
00:22:40,078 --> 00:22:41,034
adventure 09:07,

584
00:22:41,353 --> 00:22:44,060
and there's about 70 videos on there and

585
00:22:44,060 --> 00:22:46,938
more than half of them. Have extensive me

586
00:22:46,938 --> 00:22:47,415
care

587
00:22:48,209 --> 00:22:50,116
demonstration, but 1 in particular that'll give you

588
00:22:50,116 --> 00:22:53,074
an idea of temperature related times how to

589
00:22:53,074 --> 00:22:55,151
predict how fast your meat is cooling and

590
00:22:55,151 --> 00:22:56,210
what to do on

591
00:22:56,589 --> 00:22:59,886
day 1 through 9, look for mitigating

592
00:23:00,439 --> 00:23:02,453
spoil in the back country, final

593
00:23:03,069 --> 00:23:03,569
Ua

594
00:23:03,946 --> 00:23:06,257
version. It'll talk about everything from keeping your

595
00:23:06,257 --> 00:23:08,305
meat from freezing the first 3 days to

596
00:23:08,504 --> 00:23:11,375
prevent cold shortening to dealing with blow flies

597
00:23:11,375 --> 00:23:13,847
and, you know, trajectory wounds, you know,

598
00:23:14,565 --> 00:23:17,277
basically flushing out and those bad shots on

599
00:23:17,277 --> 00:23:19,366
a high quarter, or ribs, and know, they'll

600
00:23:19,366 --> 00:23:21,838
show you there's some hands on techniques for

601
00:23:21,838 --> 00:23:24,231
basically all temperatures. You did make a note

602
00:23:24,231 --> 00:23:26,464
that most of our alaska videos are fall

603
00:23:26,464 --> 00:23:27,661
centric and therefore,

604
00:23:28,154 --> 00:23:30,380
cooler temperatures on average, but there are a

605
00:23:30,380 --> 00:23:32,766
couple of videos, at caribou specific that we

606
00:23:32,766 --> 00:23:34,913
had 80 degree days and the me care

607
00:23:34,913 --> 00:23:37,719
on those is also shared in that mitigating

608
00:23:38,109 --> 00:23:40,426
foliage in the back video. So you'll see

609
00:23:40,426 --> 00:23:42,743
some me air hands on from 80 degrees

610
00:23:42,743 --> 00:23:44,342
down to freezing temperatures.

611
00:23:45,061 --> 00:23:46,275
I'll link that up and it's that's the

612
00:23:46,275 --> 00:23:47,954
video I was watching today, and I'll tell

613
00:23:47,954 --> 00:23:49,875
you this people really wanna geek out on

614
00:23:49,875 --> 00:23:51,234
meat care, and I hope they do. I

615
00:23:51,234 --> 00:23:53,394
mean, this video is over an hour long

616
00:23:53,394 --> 00:23:55,568
of just me care. Yeah. Yeah. Some good

617
00:23:55,568 --> 00:23:57,086
stuff. If you like that sort of thing.

618
00:23:57,326 --> 00:23:59,244
It'll at least get you prepared. And also,

619
00:23:59,404 --> 00:24:01,322
I got your float dragging in Alaska, and

620
00:24:01,322 --> 00:24:03,000
a, you got a whole chapter in that

621
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,564
book chapter 8. Yep. And I don't know.

622
00:24:05,803 --> 00:24:07,873
That's, like, 70 or 80 pages of just

623
00:24:07,873 --> 00:24:10,422
meet care too. Absolutely. And that's... If it's

624
00:24:10,422 --> 00:24:12,268
not covered in p dragon in Alaska. It's

625
00:24:12,268 --> 00:24:14,653
covered in that video and or all the

626
00:24:14,653 --> 00:24:17,278
rest that support those videos. There's no stone

627
00:24:17,278 --> 00:24:20,061
left uncovered with me care, in our profession.

628
00:24:20,554 --> 00:24:23,275
Well, Larry, you sure opened my eyes, and

629
00:24:23,275 --> 00:24:25,194
man, that's so much information to take on,

630
00:24:25,355 --> 00:24:27,515
and I appreciate you converting it to the

631
00:24:27,515 --> 00:24:29,841
early season for. And just providing all these

632
00:24:29,841 --> 00:24:31,909
resources for to check out if anybody has

633
00:24:31,909 --> 00:24:33,817
any questions for you where can they find

634
00:24:33,817 --> 00:24:35,885
you at? Oh, you can check out pristine

635
00:24:35,885 --> 00:24:38,689
ventures dot com. And you'll probably find me

636
00:24:38,689 --> 00:24:40,443
on rock slide more often than on my

637
00:24:40,443 --> 00:24:42,517
own website. So look for me there. For

638
00:24:42,517 --> 00:24:44,910
sure. Alright, Laura. I appreciate it, And we'll

639
00:24:44,910 --> 00:24:47,078
catch up with you soon. Alright, Sam. Take

640
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669
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670
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to the S. Yeah. Thanks, Sam. Thanks for

671
00:25:53,490 --> 00:25:54,849
having me. Like, we are talking. I mean,

672
00:25:54,930 --> 00:25:56,769
the timing is perfect. Right? A lot of

673
00:25:56,769 --> 00:25:58,849
the country right now is under a a

674
00:25:58,849 --> 00:26:00,865
heat wave. Not here in Montana. I don't

675
00:26:00,865 --> 00:26:02,384
know about where you're living. We just had

676
00:26:02,384 --> 00:26:03,025
snow last night,

677
00:26:03,744 --> 00:26:06,065
the middle of june. So... Yeah. Pretty crazy.

678
00:26:06,224 --> 00:26:08,384
We had super cold weather here too. I'm

679
00:26:08,384 --> 00:26:10,792
super enjoying it. Yeah. No. I'm not I'm

680
00:26:10,792 --> 00:26:13,180
not complaining that it's not 95 degrees outside.

681
00:26:13,658 --> 00:26:15,648
But... Yeah. When it comes to hot weather,

682
00:26:15,807 --> 00:26:17,653
you know, I think that we've got... Some

683
00:26:17,653 --> 00:26:19,485
great stuff and over the years, I've I've

684
00:26:19,485 --> 00:26:22,113
helped develop with the team, some things for

685
00:26:22,113 --> 00:26:24,342
hot weather hunting. And it's really just not

686
00:26:24,342 --> 00:26:25,855
hot weather honey. I mean right now, people

687
00:26:25,855 --> 00:26:28,180
are probably finishing their shit hunting. Right? And

688
00:26:28,180 --> 00:26:30,888
everybody's starting the scout. And if not, that,

689
00:26:31,127 --> 00:26:32,163
then you're out training,

690
00:26:32,641 --> 00:26:35,030
and that eventually leads into the fall season.

691
00:26:35,444 --> 00:26:37,837
So what we're trying to solve for when

692
00:26:37,837 --> 00:26:40,550
we go outside right now and it's hot

693
00:26:40,550 --> 00:26:42,717
and it's sunny, and all these things. At

694
00:26:42,717 --> 00:26:44,385
least most of the time is, you know,

695
00:26:44,544 --> 00:26:46,870
we're trying to protect ourselves

696
00:26:47,243 --> 00:26:49,467
from that heat. So there's a couple ways

697
00:26:49,467 --> 00:26:51,531
to do that. And then we're trying to

698
00:26:51,531 --> 00:26:53,778
protect ourselves from the sun, and there's a

699
00:26:53,778 --> 00:26:55,533
couple ways to do that as well. So

700
00:26:55,533 --> 00:26:57,309
the first thing when it comes to clothing

701
00:26:57,367 --> 00:26:59,361
is you wanna make sure that, you know,

702
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,329
the clothing you put it on is light

703
00:27:01,448 --> 00:27:03,748
weight and oftentimes when it comes to lightweight

704
00:27:03,748 --> 00:27:06,444
clothing, you lack durability. So trying to find

705
00:27:06,444 --> 00:27:08,982
that balance of lightweight and durable can be

706
00:27:08,982 --> 00:27:10,979
difficult cult, and I'll speak to the exact

707
00:27:10,979 --> 00:27:12,643
product here in a minute. So trying to

708
00:27:12,643 --> 00:27:14,545
figure that out, and then also something that

709
00:27:14,545 --> 00:27:16,740
manages moisture. So probably when you and I

710
00:27:16,938 --> 00:27:19,241
were were younger, maybe even kids. Right? We'd

711
00:27:19,241 --> 00:27:21,147
run around and cotton t shirts, and we'd

712
00:27:21,147 --> 00:27:23,052
sweat that cotton t shirt out. That cotton

713
00:27:23,052 --> 00:27:25,514
would absorb that moisture. And then that would

714
00:27:25,514 --> 00:27:27,519
allow us to cool down either with a

715
00:27:27,519 --> 00:27:29,671
light breeze or through what is called the

716
00:27:29,671 --> 00:27:31,743
vapor of cooling, which is basically just your

717
00:27:31,743 --> 00:27:33,815
body given off heat, the moisture evaporates,

718
00:27:34,228 --> 00:27:35,816
with that and takes the heat with it.

719
00:27:36,055 --> 00:27:37,564
But when you're trying to spend a night

720
00:27:37,564 --> 00:27:39,391
out or multiple nights out or a week

721
00:27:39,391 --> 00:27:41,218
or 2 in the back country, if you

722
00:27:41,218 --> 00:27:43,859
have something like caught that's gonna absorb that

723
00:27:43,859 --> 00:27:45,772
moisture and is gonna help keep you cool.

724
00:27:46,011 --> 00:27:47,366
During the heat of the day, that's not

725
00:27:47,366 --> 00:27:49,039
gonna work when the when the sun goes

726
00:27:49,039 --> 00:27:51,049
down. So we we need something that's going

727
00:27:51,049 --> 00:27:52,890
to help manage and this is where modern

728
00:27:52,890 --> 00:27:55,049
materials and all that comes in, polyester, and

729
00:27:55,049 --> 00:27:57,369
nylon, etcetera. So trying to find something that's

730
00:27:57,369 --> 00:28:00,105
gonna manage more, which is going to absorb

731
00:28:00,105 --> 00:28:02,184
it, keep that moisture on your skin a

732
00:28:02,184 --> 00:28:04,105
little bit or in that material. And then

733
00:28:04,105 --> 00:28:06,345
as you push that heat away and the

734
00:28:06,345 --> 00:28:08,160
moisture takes a heat away through a vapor

735
00:28:08,279 --> 00:28:09,957
cooling, you're able to cool down and then

736
00:28:09,957 --> 00:28:12,114
that process continues to cycle. And then in

737
00:28:12,114 --> 00:28:14,511
the evening or the mornings maybe when you're

738
00:28:14,511 --> 00:28:16,442
out glass, and at not so hot that

739
00:28:16,442 --> 00:28:18,438
that base layer still able to manage moisture.

740
00:28:18,598 --> 00:28:20,355
So those are kinda of the problems we're

741
00:28:20,355 --> 00:28:21,791
trying to solve. And then I think when

742
00:28:21,791 --> 00:28:23,947
it comes to hot weather what people tend

743
00:28:23,947 --> 00:28:26,115
to overlook is, you know, some times, the

744
00:28:26,115 --> 00:28:28,183
coldest I've ever been is actually in the

745
00:28:28,183 --> 00:28:30,410
desert. And that sounds weird coming from a

746
00:28:30,410 --> 00:28:33,444
person who's kinda specialized in cold weather survival

747
00:28:33,444 --> 00:28:35,902
and mountain warfare in the military, but there's

748
00:28:35,902 --> 00:28:37,194
such a huge temperature

749
00:28:38,042 --> 00:28:40,599
differentiation between mornings and evenings, cold that if

750
00:28:40,599 --> 00:28:43,079
you're not careful and maybe overlooked bringing in

751
00:28:43,079 --> 00:28:45,319
a puffy jacket and or something to block

752
00:28:45,319 --> 00:28:47,160
the win that you can really find yourself,

753
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,169
even though it's super hot during the day,

754
00:28:49,488 --> 00:28:51,320
maybe let's just call it 90. If it

755
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:52,993
drops into the mid fifties, you're gonna be

756
00:28:52,993 --> 00:28:54,985
pretty chilled at night. And so really, I

757
00:28:54,985 --> 00:28:56,180
go back to what I call the 8

758
00:28:56,180 --> 00:28:58,186
piece clothing system, which is a base layer

759
00:28:58,186 --> 00:29:00,015
is critically important. And I think when you're

760
00:29:00,015 --> 00:29:02,322
talking base layer, that could be something that

761
00:29:02,322 --> 00:29:05,441
for this specifically hot weather, something that's super

762
00:29:05,441 --> 00:29:08,072
lightweight, maybe in a hundred 20 gram ish

763
00:29:08,072 --> 00:29:10,544
merino, maybe 01:20 to 1, you know, 50

764
00:29:10,544 --> 00:29:12,856
60 70 somewhere in there, and then something

765
00:29:12,856 --> 00:29:15,102
lightweight synthetic wise. But that's gonna help pull

766
00:29:15,102 --> 00:29:16,776
the moisture off your skin. And then as

767
00:29:16,776 --> 00:29:19,007
your body naturally puts off the heat, it's

768
00:29:19,007 --> 00:29:21,093
gonna take the heat away through evaporation cooling.

769
00:29:21,331 --> 00:29:23,261
So that's kinda critical what I call the

770
00:29:23,317 --> 00:29:24,905
foundation of a clothing system. And then it's

771
00:29:24,905 --> 00:29:26,811
really important this time of year to have

772
00:29:26,811 --> 00:29:29,115
a pair of pants that's durable enough that

773
00:29:29,115 --> 00:29:31,991
you can crawl sit, cooling slides stock in,

774
00:29:32,230 --> 00:29:34,537
all those things. So, you know, for Ci,

775
00:29:34,855 --> 00:29:36,605
I always default to this time of year

776
00:29:36,605 --> 00:29:38,753
the ascent pan. I think the ascent pant

777
00:29:38,753 --> 00:29:40,837
is 1 of the best, not only lightweight,

778
00:29:41,076 --> 00:29:42,827
but durable hunting pants. We've make it out

779
00:29:42,827 --> 00:29:44,976
of a cord nylon. I've had it on

780
00:29:45,135 --> 00:29:46,807
Kate Buffalo hunt. I'm gonna go on Kate

781
00:29:46,886 --> 00:29:48,876
Buffalo hunt, August. I'm gonna take these pair

782
00:29:48,876 --> 00:29:50,587
pants. The They're almost ind,

783
00:29:51,602 --> 00:29:53,596
especially for as light as they are. So

784
00:29:53,676 --> 00:29:55,750
I'm gonna put that pair of ascent pants

785
00:29:55,750 --> 00:29:58,222
maybe over top of merino, cor merino marino

786
00:29:58,222 --> 00:30:01,654
01:20 bak sir or lightweight boxer out of

787
00:30:01,654 --> 00:30:03,400
synthetic. And then I'm gonna have a base

788
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,939
layer top and because we're trying to protect

789
00:30:05,939 --> 00:30:08,335
ourselves, from the sun. I always tend to

790
00:30:08,335 --> 00:30:10,637
default this time of year to a base

791
00:30:10,637 --> 00:30:12,304
layer top, be it a 1 core merino

792
00:30:12,304 --> 00:30:14,764
marino 01:20 or a core lightweight hoodie that

793
00:30:14,764 --> 00:30:16,770
has launched sleeves and has a hood. So

794
00:30:16,770 --> 00:30:18,125
what that allows me to do is if

795
00:30:18,205 --> 00:30:20,038
I want to roll up sleeves, I can

796
00:30:20,038 --> 00:30:21,951
just simply pull the sleeves up, I can

797
00:30:21,951 --> 00:30:23,705
dump pee. But if I need to protect

798
00:30:23,705 --> 00:30:25,559
myself from the sun, I can pull those

799
00:30:25,559 --> 00:30:27,080
sleeves down. If I wanna put the hood

800
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,080
up for conceal or just to get out

801
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:30,759
of the sun at a glass knob, I

802
00:30:30,759 --> 00:30:32,213
could do that if I wanna pull that

803
00:30:32,213 --> 00:30:33,728
hood off. I can do that as well.

804
00:30:33,968 --> 00:30:36,360
So I think trying to find versatile clothing

805
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,071
this time year that's lightweight manage moisture, but

806
00:30:39,071 --> 00:30:40,826
it also allows you to get out of

807
00:30:40,826 --> 00:30:43,320
the sun, Now another hoodie that I think

808
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,200
is exceptional for this time of year is

809
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,039
what we call the E ox guard hoodie.

810
00:30:48,279 --> 00:30:51,252
So originally that E guard hoodie was positioned

811
00:30:51,252 --> 00:30:53,570
as something that has... What's called insects shield,

812
00:30:53,809 --> 00:30:56,686
so it protects you from ticks and mosquitoes

813
00:30:56,686 --> 00:30:58,779
and things like that. But it's... Say so

814
00:30:58,779 --> 00:31:01,816
lightweight, it manages moisture so well that people

815
00:31:01,816 --> 00:31:04,373
have decided that that's also a great hot

816
00:31:04,373 --> 00:31:06,611
weather piece, not just for spring Turkey or

817
00:31:06,611 --> 00:31:08,540
bear, but also for this time of year,

818
00:31:08,699 --> 00:31:10,211
and then even in the early part of

819
00:31:10,211 --> 00:31:12,358
fall. So, again, it does all those things

820
00:31:12,518 --> 00:31:15,499
I talked about Up ups so that the

821
00:31:15,955 --> 00:31:18,266
ultraviolet protection factor I think is what it

822
00:31:18,266 --> 00:31:20,337
stands for. But basically, the ability of the

823
00:31:20,337 --> 00:31:22,170
clothing to protect you from the sun, You'll

824
00:31:22,170 --> 00:31:25,051
see different Up ups ratings on different clothing,

825
00:31:25,210 --> 00:31:27,036
so that's something you wanna look at. I

826
00:31:27,036 --> 00:31:29,337
think something is low is a 30, so

827
00:31:29,337 --> 00:31:31,480
say, like, the core lightweight hoodie depending on

828
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,226
the color that it is. That's kinda like

829
00:31:33,226 --> 00:31:34,991
a 30 P all the way up to

830
00:31:34,991 --> 00:31:37,298
something like that E guard hoodie, which is

831
00:31:37,298 --> 00:31:40,561
maybe pushing something along a 50 P, That

832
00:31:40,561 --> 00:31:42,490
range changes is what I'm looking forward to

833
00:31:42,490 --> 00:31:44,164
product. So I don't wanna get sunburn burned

834
00:31:44,164 --> 00:31:46,079
through my clothing. Right? That's the worst thing

835
00:31:46,079 --> 00:31:48,551
to do because, ultimately, when you're out there,

836
00:31:48,631 --> 00:31:49,827
you you don't wanna kick your own butt.

837
00:31:49,907 --> 00:31:52,078
Right? You don't wanna make self statistic. And

838
00:31:52,078 --> 00:31:54,076
so if you go out there and get

839
00:31:54,076 --> 00:31:57,433
dehydrated, get sunburn, get suns stroke, all those

840
00:31:57,433 --> 00:31:59,671
things, like, that's an forced error from you,

841
00:31:59,910 --> 00:32:01,602
not mother nature. You know what it's gonna

842
00:32:01,602 --> 00:32:02,878
be like. And so it's up to you

843
00:32:02,878 --> 00:32:05,111
to kinda counter that. And clothing is really

844
00:32:05,111 --> 00:32:07,345
that first line of defense against the elements.

845
00:32:07,504 --> 00:32:09,099
And so when it's hot out, you need

846
00:32:09,099 --> 00:32:10,750
to make sure that you can manage your

847
00:32:10,869 --> 00:32:12,787
heat that you can manage your moisture and

848
00:32:12,787 --> 00:32:15,105
that you could protect yourself from the sun.

849
00:32:15,265 --> 00:32:17,103
Now when the sun does go down, that's

850
00:32:17,103 --> 00:32:19,021
when I think the puffy jacket really comes

851
00:32:19,021 --> 00:32:22,066
in and there's, you know, several insulated puffy

852
00:32:22,066 --> 00:32:24,136
jackets that you can choose from, something like

853
00:32:24,136 --> 00:32:25,887
a Kelvin aero jacket it would be a

854
00:32:25,887 --> 00:32:28,116
great all around piece if you've either never

855
00:32:28,116 --> 00:32:30,760
own a puffy jacket before or you're looking

856
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:32,672
something to kinda do it all or you're

857
00:32:32,672 --> 00:32:34,584
maybe going from the lower 48, and you're

858
00:32:34,584 --> 00:32:37,293
gonna head to say coastal Alaska or Canada

859
00:32:37,293 --> 00:32:39,295
where it's damp got a great insulation that

860
00:32:39,295 --> 00:32:41,913
can manage moisture. So anyways, that puffy jacket

861
00:32:41,913 --> 00:32:44,373
those gonna be critical for when you stop

862
00:32:44,373 --> 00:32:45,881
to put on to capture your body heat,

863
00:32:46,278 --> 00:32:48,288
especially, it's sun goes down so those early

864
00:32:48,288 --> 00:32:50,206
mornings, late at night, I even sleep in

865
00:32:50,206 --> 00:32:52,523
that puffy jacket to supplement my clothing system.

866
00:32:52,763 --> 00:32:54,841
And then to go with that, puffy jacket

867
00:32:54,841 --> 00:32:57,335
is some type of beanie. Like b 03:30

868
00:32:57,335 --> 00:32:59,255
beanie or traverse beanie. And I think when

869
00:32:59,255 --> 00:33:01,414
you start putting that together, the last 2

870
00:33:01,414 --> 00:33:03,174
pieces would be rain gear or maybe a

871
00:33:03,174 --> 00:33:05,024
wins stop her top. But, you know, depending

872
00:33:05,024 --> 00:33:06,619
on where you're hunting, maybe you don't need

873
00:33:06,619 --> 00:33:08,373
that in Arizona, but Rain gear, of course,

874
00:33:08,533 --> 00:33:10,207
you know, you definitely want where where you

875
00:33:10,207 --> 00:33:11,722
and I live or if you had north,

876
00:33:11,882 --> 00:33:14,445
but, you know, specifically the early season, I

877
00:33:14,445 --> 00:33:16,116
think that we need to protect ourselves from

878
00:33:16,116 --> 00:33:17,947
the sun and then being able to dump

879
00:33:17,947 --> 00:33:20,096
that body heat to manage our body temperature.

880
00:33:20,590 --> 00:33:22,029
You brought up so many great points, and

881
00:33:22,269 --> 00:33:24,029
I drew a early season in Nevada Deer

882
00:33:24,029 --> 00:33:26,110
tag last year, and I was surprised all

883
00:33:26,110 --> 00:33:28,441
the Deer high, Europe high 2. But just

884
00:33:28,441 --> 00:33:30,663
a different of getting that elevation and how

885
00:33:30,663 --> 00:33:32,886
much more sun you're exposed to even in

886
00:33:32,886 --> 00:33:34,395
the shade up there. So I I do

887
00:33:34,395 --> 00:33:36,475
think that a hood, as... I don't know.

888
00:33:36,634 --> 00:33:37,669
When you first think about it, you know,

889
00:33:37,827 --> 00:33:39,816
you think of a hood, maybe retaining more

890
00:33:39,816 --> 00:33:41,328
heat, but getting out of the sun there.

891
00:33:41,487 --> 00:33:43,316
It's critical. I think there was 1 tree

892
00:33:43,316 --> 00:33:45,403
on my glass point And so as the

893
00:33:45,403 --> 00:33:46,999
sun moved around, you know, I just kinda

894
00:33:46,999 --> 00:33:48,356
had to move around too with it, but

895
00:33:48,356 --> 00:33:49,953
it was rough kind of... Yeah. It becomes

896
00:33:49,953 --> 00:33:51,470
a lesser 2 evils Right? And it's like,

897
00:33:51,629 --> 00:33:53,226
I'd rather have that lightweight hood to get

898
00:33:53,226 --> 00:33:54,837
out of the sun. Think gets sunburn on

899
00:33:54,837 --> 00:33:56,033
the back of my neck and then be

900
00:33:56,033 --> 00:33:57,628
miserable for the for the rest of the

901
00:33:57,628 --> 00:33:59,463
hunt. Right? And so outside of clothing, that's

902
00:33:59,463 --> 00:34:02,414
where, like, a lightweight tarp is potentially crucial,

903
00:34:02,494 --> 00:34:04,265
like, be able to pitch over your tripod.

904
00:34:04,424 --> 00:34:05,945
Right? So you can sit there and just

905
00:34:05,945 --> 00:34:07,705
keep moving that tarp around to kinda get

906
00:34:07,705 --> 00:34:08,985
out of the sun. But, you know, this

907
00:34:08,985 --> 00:34:10,505
time of year, that's what I'm looking to

908
00:34:10,505 --> 00:34:12,000
do. I like, what is the problem I'm

909
00:34:12,119 --> 00:34:13,634
trying to solve. And then what is the

910
00:34:13,634 --> 00:34:15,547
gear and clothing that I need to kinda

911
00:34:15,547 --> 00:34:17,621
help solve that problem? Yeah. I really appreciate

912
00:34:17,621 --> 00:34:19,375
you walking us through the entire process there.

913
00:34:19,614 --> 00:34:21,303
It makes a lot of sense and of

914
00:34:21,303 --> 00:34:23,054
the things I always like about sickest is

915
00:34:23,054 --> 00:34:24,726
they always have that piece of gear that

916
00:34:24,726 --> 00:34:26,716
can fill not only the niche you're trying

917
00:34:26,716 --> 00:34:28,467
to, but be able to to fill in

918
00:34:28,467 --> 00:34:30,315
somewhere else 2. So it's a multipurpose purpose.

919
00:34:30,555 --> 00:34:31,751
You can use it in the early season,

920
00:34:31,911 --> 00:34:33,506
but you can also use it in September.

921
00:34:33,905 --> 00:34:35,261
You can use it in those later seasons.

922
00:34:35,420 --> 00:34:37,335
You can fill in your gear gaps that

923
00:34:37,335 --> 00:34:39,423
way. Yeah. Versatility is a great thing. Right?

924
00:34:39,583 --> 00:34:41,497
We wanna buy pieces that we can continue

925
00:34:41,497 --> 00:34:43,411
to maybe start our season with, and then

926
00:34:43,411 --> 00:34:45,644
wear those pieces. Most of them anyways, all

927
00:34:45,644 --> 00:34:47,001
the way through to the end, and then

928
00:34:47,001 --> 00:34:49,407
just have to supplement on top with some

929
00:34:49,407 --> 00:34:51,319
additional items that, know, are gonna keep us

930
00:34:51,319 --> 00:34:53,788
warm as a temperature starts plummet. Alright. Well,

931
00:34:53,947 --> 00:34:55,540
I appreciate you chi in. Giving us a

932
00:34:55,540 --> 00:34:57,053
lot of good info here on the sick

933
00:34:57,053 --> 00:34:59,381
of pieces and give us a great starting

934
00:34:59,381 --> 00:35:01,377
point there. I look forward to trying out

935
00:35:01,377 --> 00:35:03,213
some more pieces and catching up with you

936
00:35:03,213 --> 00:35:04,969
maybe in the later season, see what else

937
00:35:04,969 --> 00:35:06,406
you guys are kicking out. We got some

938
00:35:06,406 --> 00:35:08,258
great stuff coming out. So thanks Sam. I

939
00:35:08,258 --> 00:35:09,457
appreciate it. Alright. Thanks, John.

940
00:35:10,336 --> 00:35:12,973
Alright. We finally caught up with Bailey Flores,

941
00:35:13,292 --> 00:35:16,023
product development manager from For. So Bailey is

942
00:35:16,023 --> 00:35:17,936
gonna tell us a bit about For, then

943
00:35:17,936 --> 00:35:19,769
jump into 1 of their favorite warm weather

944
00:35:19,769 --> 00:35:23,117
pieces, the Sole technical hoodie. So welcome to

945
00:35:23,197 --> 00:35:25,360
Show Bailey. Thank you, Sam. Thanks for having

946
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,746
me. Yeah. So 4 started in 20 20.

947
00:35:28,065 --> 00:35:30,133
So we are still fairly new about 4

948
00:35:30,133 --> 00:35:32,280
years now it's crazy. It's already 20 24.

949
00:35:32,535 --> 00:35:34,054
But we're a hundred percent made source in

950
00:35:34,054 --> 00:35:36,375
the Us and that we're considered technical gear.

951
00:35:36,535 --> 00:35:38,295
So we don't just want to be known

952
00:35:38,295 --> 00:35:39,735
for being made in sourced in the Us.

953
00:35:39,894 --> 00:35:41,269
Well we are very proud of it. We

954
00:35:41,269 --> 00:35:42,388
love what we do. And we love that

955
00:35:42,388 --> 00:35:44,305
we do it here in the states. We

956
00:35:44,305 --> 00:35:46,303
wanted to make something that's fully functional that

957
00:35:46,303 --> 00:35:48,220
people can actually be proud to wear something

958
00:35:48,220 --> 00:35:50,224
that people can... Actually use. And this whether

959
00:35:50,224 --> 00:35:52,949
they're they're hunting, I can hiking, fishing anything

960
00:35:53,085 --> 00:35:55,230
outdoors or anything like that. It's just all

961
00:35:55,230 --> 00:35:57,629
around here for for all outdoor use. So,

962
00:35:57,788 --> 00:35:59,302
you know, we don't just wanna put that

963
00:35:59,302 --> 00:36:01,054
that made an America stamp out there, but

964
00:36:01,054 --> 00:36:02,806
it's actually gonna be, you're gonna get high

965
00:36:02,806 --> 00:36:04,956
quality, you know, technical gear from your top

966
00:36:04,956 --> 00:36:06,804
tier your bottoms, your mid layers. And then

967
00:36:06,804 --> 00:36:08,958
the piece we're talking about today is the

968
00:36:08,958 --> 00:36:11,033
the technical hoodie. So I love our whole

969
00:36:11,033 --> 00:36:13,028
solar lines. So that's gonna be our your

970
00:36:13,028 --> 00:36:15,934
sun shirts, your sun pants, your super lightweight

971
00:36:16,069 --> 00:36:19,008
moisture wick. 1 of my favorite thing about

972
00:36:19,008 --> 00:36:21,868
these pieces, which includes the technical hoodie is

973
00:36:21,868 --> 00:36:24,195
the the poly and the burp.

974
00:36:24,584 --> 00:36:25,483
So that poly

975
00:36:25,861 --> 00:36:29,132
actually basically wicks away any kind of scent

976
00:36:29,132 --> 00:36:31,286
from you. So it uses silica, and it's

977
00:36:31,286 --> 00:36:34,327
95 percent scent wine rain water and a

978
00:36:34,327 --> 00:36:36,475
mixture of kind of a sand material that

979
00:36:36,475 --> 00:36:38,305
basically which just wicks away all the... Any

980
00:36:38,305 --> 00:36:39,578
kind of sense from you so you can

981
00:36:39,578 --> 00:36:41,823
get around 6 to 8 use is without

982
00:36:41,823 --> 00:36:43,659
kind of smelling any sweat. You know, you're

983
00:36:43,659 --> 00:36:45,655
constantly in the field. You're out there running

984
00:36:45,655 --> 00:36:47,172
around is something you can keep, you know,

985
00:36:47,332 --> 00:36:49,407
3 or 4 lightweight pieces on you. And

986
00:36:49,407 --> 00:36:51,260
the technical hoodie in general is it's just

987
00:36:51,260 --> 00:36:53,180
something that anyone can use. You don't even

988
00:36:53,180 --> 00:36:54,699
have to be a hunter. It's a really

989
00:36:54,699 --> 00:36:56,300
good travel piece. You know, I've used it

990
00:36:56,300 --> 00:36:57,900
a lot. So says I join the product

991
00:36:57,900 --> 00:36:59,748
team. We we fly around. We go to

992
00:36:59,748 --> 00:37:02,057
our warehouse. We go to our different facilities.

993
00:37:02,376 --> 00:37:04,846
I'm down here in in Texas where it's

994
00:37:04,846 --> 00:37:07,235
98 now, but, you know, we've gone places

995
00:37:07,235 --> 00:37:09,473
like in Montana where it drops like, 50,

996
00:37:09,711 --> 00:37:11,853
and, you know, I can rock the technical

997
00:37:11,853 --> 00:37:13,758
hoodie here and then, you know, continue to

998
00:37:13,758 --> 00:37:15,266
wear it over there just because the the

999
00:37:15,266 --> 00:37:17,670
cooling minerals And it's just a stall around

1000
00:37:17,670 --> 00:37:20,701
comfortable piece. And it's 90 percent polyester with

1001
00:37:20,701 --> 00:37:22,455
10 percent span x. I wanna say that

1002
00:37:22,455 --> 00:37:25,406
1 as 88 percent, polyester or 12 percent

1003
00:37:25,406 --> 00:37:28,212
span x. And then what's the Up p

1004
00:37:28,212 --> 00:37:29,408
rating on it? Do you know off offhand?

1005
00:37:29,647 --> 00:37:31,880
So it's gonna be 50 plus. Yeah. So

1006
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:33,474
that's pretty high for being out in the

1007
00:37:33,474 --> 00:37:34,351
song for sure. Oh.

1008
00:37:35,322 --> 00:37:36,838
You know, I have a buddy... This mom

1009
00:37:36,838 --> 00:37:40,664
had gotten diagnosed with stage 4 skin cancer,

1010
00:37:40,903 --> 00:37:42,338
And you know, she grew up always in

1011
00:37:42,338 --> 00:37:43,788
the sun. You know, it kind of the

1012
00:37:43,788 --> 00:37:45,302
thing where she was always tan,

1013
00:37:46,019 --> 00:37:48,410
never wore sunscreen, and, you know, I grew

1014
00:37:48,410 --> 00:37:50,084
up with that family. So that that was

1015
00:37:50,084 --> 00:37:51,852
pretty rough hearing, but I You know, she

1016
00:37:51,852 --> 00:37:53,765
actually... She beats stage 4 recently. So that

1017
00:37:53,765 --> 00:37:55,439
was that was awesome. But now, like, when

1018
00:37:55,439 --> 00:37:57,511
they go out. Yeah. That is. Yeah. They

1019
00:37:57,511 --> 00:37:58,945
they spent all their time on the water.

1020
00:37:59,359 --> 00:38:01,114
So I actually gifted him because now he

1021
00:38:01,114 --> 00:38:03,267
wears, like Sun everywhere goes, and, you know,

1022
00:38:03,347 --> 00:38:05,182
we're we're fishing. We're on the boat. I

1023
00:38:05,182 --> 00:38:06,617
gifted him a couple of the 4 low

1024
00:38:06,617 --> 00:38:08,372
ones. It's it's really cool seeing him I'm

1025
00:38:08,372 --> 00:38:10,619
out there over. Of his other brands that

1026
00:38:10,619 --> 00:38:13,007
he has. But 1 thing about these these

1027
00:38:13,007 --> 00:38:15,476
solar shirts is there here in Texas, I've

1028
00:38:15,636 --> 00:38:17,069
I've worn them all and, you know, I

1029
00:38:17,069 --> 00:38:18,596
love the brands that I grew up weren't

1030
00:38:18,596 --> 00:38:20,896
wearing. I don't... I can't describe how wide

1031
00:38:20,896 --> 00:38:22,483
it is. I mean, they're there's just... They're

1032
00:38:22,483 --> 00:38:24,625
so comfortable. I I could literally wear it

1033
00:38:24,625 --> 00:38:26,555
to weren't to sleep, then I can go

1034
00:38:26,555 --> 00:38:27,675
wear it on a run or go where

1035
00:38:27,675 --> 00:38:29,515
it working out, and then I'll go through

1036
00:38:29,515 --> 00:38:31,275
on a pair of pants and then, go

1037
00:38:31,275 --> 00:38:33,994
where it fishing. Just a bad ass bad

1038
00:38:33,994 --> 00:38:35,526
ass piece. Yeah. So you can wear it

1039
00:38:35,526 --> 00:38:37,200
next to skin as a next to skin

1040
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,034
layer or you can wear it as, like,

1041
00:38:39,193 --> 00:38:42,222
a light over jacket. Absolutely. Yeah. So you

1042
00:38:42,222 --> 00:38:44,067
can wear it as a mix. Skin with

1043
00:38:44,067 --> 00:38:45,973
the the technical hoodie. I've had people wear

1044
00:38:46,053 --> 00:38:48,038
Next skin award just wear it as a

1045
00:38:48,118 --> 00:38:50,445
Layering piece, you know, here in Texas with,

1046
00:38:50,659 --> 00:38:52,901
you know, early season when they're they're hunting

1047
00:38:52,901 --> 00:38:55,048
white tail. It's still kind of, you know,

1048
00:38:55,208 --> 00:38:56,878
you start little cold in the morning and

1049
00:38:56,878 --> 00:38:58,882
then it heats up towards noon so that's

1050
00:38:58,882 --> 00:39:00,555
kinda of been a staple piece for for

1051
00:39:00,555 --> 00:39:02,706
early season hunting here in in Texas. But,

1052
00:39:02,786 --> 00:39:04,459
yeah, No. You can wear it layering. I

1053
00:39:04,618 --> 00:39:06,969
I run pretty hot. So I'll actually wear

1054
00:39:07,030 --> 00:39:08,329
the the sole

1055
00:39:09,030 --> 00:39:11,590
long sleeve as almost like a base layer

1056
00:39:11,590 --> 00:39:13,349
and then throw natural base layer over it

1057
00:39:13,349 --> 00:39:15,199
so that that burp product it keeps my

1058
00:39:15,199 --> 00:39:16,706
skin a little cooler, but I still have

1059
00:39:16,706 --> 00:39:17,976
those layers on top of me to kinda

1060
00:39:17,976 --> 00:39:19,563
knock up the wind or anything like that.

1061
00:39:19,801 --> 00:39:21,388
For me, it's always just keeping the outside

1062
00:39:21,388 --> 00:39:24,516
elements. Out, just staying kind of temperature regulated.

1063
00:39:24,596 --> 00:39:26,034
And these pieces do a great job of

1064
00:39:26,034 --> 00:39:27,472
that. Yeah. It sounds like it. And this

1065
00:39:27,472 --> 00:39:29,324
is a full zip hoodie? Yes, sir. A

1066
00:39:29,324 --> 00:39:31,156
fool zip buddy. Sounds like an amazing piece.

1067
00:39:31,475 --> 00:39:33,148
I wanna try it out. I think we

1068
00:39:33,148 --> 00:39:35,140
got a few more minutes. You wanna talk

1069
00:39:35,140 --> 00:39:37,848
about any of your other warm season offerings.

1070
00:39:38,088 --> 00:39:39,699
So I know that's a piece, the the

1071
00:39:39,699 --> 00:39:41,140
pants. So I think I touched on them

1072
00:39:41,140 --> 00:39:42,980
just a bit, But man, those pants are.

1073
00:39:43,219 --> 00:39:45,219
Those are awesome. So I I do a

1074
00:39:45,219 --> 00:39:48,074
lot of fast fishing here in Central Texas

1075
00:39:48,114 --> 00:39:50,431
so I'll throw on the solar pants. And

1076
00:39:50,431 --> 00:39:52,189
as thin as those things are, you know,

1077
00:39:52,269 --> 00:39:53,467
we had a lot of people that would

1078
00:39:53,467 --> 00:39:54,665
would come in the shop and they would

1079
00:39:54,665 --> 00:39:57,144
worry about them Brie and ripping up, but

1080
00:39:57,144 --> 00:39:58,969
with that rips stop, man, Those those things

1081
00:39:58,969 --> 00:40:01,111
hold they hold up well. And then on

1082
00:40:01,111 --> 00:40:03,030
top of that, I mean, I've tried through

1083
00:40:03,110 --> 00:40:05,096
Creek and rivers and streams through them and

1084
00:40:05,096 --> 00:40:07,955
when it's 98 to to 01:05 Granted it

1085
00:40:07,955 --> 00:40:09,067
it could be pretty miserable.

1086
00:40:09,782 --> 00:40:11,848
Especially, you're you're walking through Standing rock and

1087
00:40:11,848 --> 00:40:13,532
there's no day, that's something being non you.

1088
00:40:13,692 --> 00:40:15,442
But when you're walking through, you know, water

1089
00:40:15,442 --> 00:40:17,669
with those pants, they they don't feel uncomfortable.

1090
00:40:17,908 --> 00:40:19,578
I mean, they they keep you cool, normally,

1091
00:40:19,737 --> 00:40:21,344
when you're treasure do water and day kind

1092
00:40:21,344 --> 00:40:23,265
of a pant for me. Just feels it

1093
00:40:23,265 --> 00:40:25,265
feels uncomfortable, and then they just... They they

1094
00:40:25,265 --> 00:40:27,265
weigh you down. The way they were designed.

1095
00:40:27,505 --> 00:40:29,505
It's just... It's killer, man. Couldn't like them

1096
00:40:29,505 --> 00:40:31,516
enough. Couldn't talk about them enough. The pants

1097
00:40:31,516 --> 00:40:32,175
is definitely,

1098
00:40:32,708 --> 00:40:34,139
1 of my favorites that we have. And

1099
00:40:34,139 --> 00:40:35,252
I I feel like I say that about

1100
00:40:35,252 --> 00:40:36,921
a repeats, But, man, I I wear those

1101
00:40:36,921 --> 00:40:39,082
pants a ton here here in Texas. Yeah.

1102
00:40:39,241 --> 00:40:40,591
The 1 thing I noticed, you guys have

1103
00:40:40,591 --> 00:40:42,600
a lot of color in offerings. I think

1104
00:40:42,894 --> 00:40:46,070
6 maybe 7 different color options. Yeah. Absolutely.

1105
00:40:46,229 --> 00:40:48,056
And we're still kind of working on more.

1106
00:40:48,309 --> 00:40:49,907
So we have the we have a full...

1107
00:40:50,227 --> 00:40:52,065
The men's and the women's, I don't think

1108
00:40:52,065 --> 00:40:53,983
a touched on that part, But the, that's

1109
00:40:53,983 --> 00:40:55,821
for the tech hoodie. And that's for an

1110
00:40:55,821 --> 00:40:58,066
abundance of our pieces Act. And we just

1111
00:40:58,066 --> 00:40:59,972
launched a green, our 4 0 grain in

1112
00:40:59,972 --> 00:41:02,117
the women's because it was highly requested. And,

1113
00:41:02,275 --> 00:41:03,864
you know, we're still still work on more

1114
00:41:03,864 --> 00:41:05,452
because if it's 1 of our most popular

1115
00:41:05,452 --> 00:41:07,298
products that we have, Actually, you know, right

1116
00:41:07,298 --> 00:41:09,456
there alongside with the the solar long sleeve.

1117
00:41:09,695 --> 00:41:11,533
And the the pants. I say when I

1118
00:41:11,533 --> 00:41:13,210
do, like, our road show working in the

1119
00:41:13,210 --> 00:41:14,901
store. It's 1 that catch people's eye and

1120
00:41:14,901 --> 00:41:16,337
they love how how light it is, but

1121
00:41:16,337 --> 00:41:18,650
it's also a a decent entry level piece,

1122
00:41:18,809 --> 00:41:21,521
You know, not everyone can drop a dime

1123
00:41:21,521 --> 00:41:23,675
and, you know, spin 500 on a jacket.

1124
00:41:24,009 --> 00:41:26,083
But, you know, they try that that solar

1125
00:41:26,083 --> 00:41:28,316
hood, you know, the technical sip, then it's

1126
00:41:28,316 --> 00:41:29,114
01:49,

1127
00:41:29,353 --> 00:41:31,187
good entry level piece and some that, you

1128
00:41:31,187 --> 00:41:32,782
know, introduce you to the brand and try

1129
00:41:32,782 --> 00:41:34,391
it out and you fall with it, then,

1130
00:41:34,471 --> 00:41:36,697
you know, eventually, you're gonna you're gonna check

1131
00:41:36,697 --> 00:41:38,050
something else out that we have and to

1132
00:41:38,050 --> 00:41:39,879
kinda see the the quality it's all built

1133
00:41:39,879 --> 00:41:41,470
with. Yeah. It sounds like a awesome warm

1134
00:41:41,470 --> 00:41:43,317
weather piece white tell us just a little

1135
00:41:43,317 --> 00:41:45,390
bit about how the process works. I know

1136
00:41:45,390 --> 00:41:47,145
you guys got a a few storefront fronts,

1137
00:41:47,703 --> 00:41:48,740
why don't you tell us where those are.

1138
00:41:48,900 --> 00:41:50,974
And then if people order online kinda how

1139
00:41:50,974 --> 00:41:52,385
the back and forth if they get the

1140
00:41:52,504 --> 00:41:54,254
fit they need or or how all that

1141
00:41:54,254 --> 00:41:56,322
plays out. Yeah. So we have... Right now,

1142
00:41:56,481 --> 00:41:58,072
we do have just the the 1 store

1143
00:41:58,072 --> 00:41:59,838
in white fish Montana. So that's where we're

1144
00:41:59,838 --> 00:42:01,271
based out of. But they can order online.

1145
00:42:01,431 --> 00:42:02,625
They... We they can catch us up road

1146
00:42:02,625 --> 00:42:05,253
shows. So, we have Taylor. She actually all

1147
00:42:05,253 --> 00:42:07,085
store roadshow shows. So a lot of toll

1148
00:42:07,085 --> 00:42:09,890
archer tree challenges to the Nra events, anything

1149
00:42:09,890 --> 00:42:11,405
like that, you know, keep an eye on

1150
00:42:11,405 --> 00:42:14,117
those outdoor shows that are in your area,

1151
00:42:14,277 --> 00:42:16,430
definitely worth going to, not just because of

1152
00:42:16,430 --> 00:42:17,866
us, but because of all the brands that

1153
00:42:17,866 --> 00:42:20,182
are there, They they showcase things really well.

1154
00:42:20,500 --> 00:42:21,689
That way you can come see it, put

1155
00:42:21,689 --> 00:42:23,116
your hands on it and kinda see what

1156
00:42:23,116 --> 00:42:24,781
you're getting into, but, you know, you can

1157
00:42:24,781 --> 00:42:26,304
check us out at 4 low dot. Com.

1158
00:42:26,782 --> 00:42:28,617
You know, we go through every piece there,

1159
00:42:28,776 --> 00:42:31,089
every technical property of it, You know, what

1160
00:42:31,089 --> 00:42:33,003
makes it different than what you're gonna find

1161
00:42:33,003 --> 00:42:34,997
out there. And then for, you know, if

1162
00:42:34,997 --> 00:42:36,766
you you order something that's a a wrong

1163
00:42:36,766 --> 00:42:39,396
size, we do returns and exchanges. Everything's pretty

1164
00:42:39,396 --> 00:42:41,707
seamless. As a as a consumer, it's it's

1165
00:42:41,707 --> 00:42:43,380
a pretty seamless and nice process,

1166
00:42:43,793 --> 00:42:45,781
especially for not having too many stores over

1167
00:42:45,781 --> 00:42:47,689
the Us. That's kind of that's 1 thing

1168
00:42:47,689 --> 00:42:49,677
that that does kinda suck about being a

1169
00:42:49,677 --> 00:42:52,078
smaller in a newer company is, you know,

1170
00:42:52,237 --> 00:42:53,991
not everyone does wanna give it a chance

1171
00:42:53,991 --> 00:42:55,506
because they can't see it in person, they

1172
00:42:55,506 --> 00:42:56,861
can't feel it. 1 of those things where

1173
00:42:56,861 --> 00:42:58,535
or if you see a a product on

1174
00:42:58,535 --> 00:43:00,701
site that you don't, you know, in you

1175
00:43:00,701 --> 00:43:02,291
order, it doesn't fit right or you don't

1176
00:43:02,291 --> 00:43:04,439
like it at all, we'll take care. Alright.

1177
00:43:04,677 --> 00:43:06,427
If people wanna check out your whole lineup

1178
00:43:06,427 --> 00:43:07,541
up, where can they go to find it?

1179
00:43:07,700 --> 00:43:11,087
Cor dot com. Do you and that's F0RL0H

1180
00:43:11,226 --> 00:43:14,342
dot com. For low. Yes, sir. Yeah. F0RL0H

1181
00:43:14,342 --> 00:43:16,100
dot com. Stands for for the love of

1182
00:43:16,100 --> 00:43:16,420
hunting.

1183
00:43:16,914 --> 00:43:18,914
I appreciate you making some time, bailey, telling

1184
00:43:18,914 --> 00:43:21,394
us about this tech hoodie, especially these pants,

1185
00:43:21,715 --> 00:43:23,635
and we look forward to seeing what you

1186
00:43:23,635 --> 00:43:25,648
guys are gonna roll out next. Absolutely. No.

1187
00:43:25,807 --> 00:43:27,084
Thank you for having me. Appreciate it.

1188
00:43:28,521 --> 00:43:31,554
You pursue them. You cherish them, and now

1189
00:43:31,554 --> 00:43:32,911
it's time to protect them.

1190
00:43:33,484 --> 00:43:34,992
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1191
00:43:35,547 --> 00:43:38,825
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1192
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1193
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1194
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1195
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1196
00:43:50,324 --> 00:43:50,801
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1197
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1198
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1199
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1200
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1201
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1202
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1203
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1204
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1205
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1206
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1207
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1208
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1209
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Visit mule dot org today. Witness

1210
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,679
And keeping with the theme of today's early

1211
00:44:22,679 --> 00:44:24,940
season show, we have Michael Re.

1212
00:44:25,494 --> 00:44:27,088
From first light to take us through their

1213
00:44:27,088 --> 00:44:29,319
warm weather options to help us decide what

1214
00:44:29,319 --> 00:44:31,311
pieces to consider on our next early season

1215
00:44:31,311 --> 00:44:33,478
trip. So welcome to the Show, Michael. Sam.

1216
00:44:33,717 --> 00:44:35,151
Thanks for having me. Super excited to be

1217
00:44:35,151 --> 00:44:36,664
a part of it. Yeah. I'm pretty excited.

1218
00:44:37,302 --> 00:44:38,497
I haven't used a lot of first light

1219
00:44:38,497 --> 00:44:39,851
gear. I know there's a lot of staff

1220
00:44:39,851 --> 00:44:42,253
members. That do. So, you know, it's gonna

1221
00:44:42,253 --> 00:44:43,605
be kind of a learning experience for me

1222
00:44:43,605 --> 00:44:45,355
too, so I'm ready to jump on into

1223
00:44:45,355 --> 00:44:48,075
it. Yeah. Definitely. So... A big thing with

1224
00:44:48,154 --> 00:44:50,063
First slide is we really made our name

1225
00:44:50,063 --> 00:44:52,291
in the industry with merino wool base layers.

1226
00:44:52,529 --> 00:44:55,170
Right? So we have the best... Merino wool

1227
00:44:55,170 --> 00:44:57,422
base layer that you can get. And now

1228
00:44:57,559 --> 00:44:59,789
we're coming in with a synthetic base layer,

1229
00:44:59,948 --> 00:45:02,098
which is a launch of a new line

1230
00:45:02,098 --> 00:45:04,989
called the Yum, and this is specifically designed

1231
00:45:04,989 --> 00:45:06,989
for the early season. And you know, there's

1232
00:45:06,989 --> 00:45:09,389
a lot of, like, oh, synthetic versus natural.

1233
00:45:09,550 --> 00:45:11,881
Right? Yeah, so the why... What's the use

1234
00:45:11,881 --> 00:45:13,636
case form. Right? So I'm trying go over

1235
00:45:13,636 --> 00:45:15,551
for a quick overview of the Yum. So

1236
00:45:15,551 --> 00:45:17,945
the Yum offers what we call triple threat?

1237
00:45:18,198 --> 00:45:21,210
So it's gonna be high q treated. So

1238
00:45:21,210 --> 00:45:23,827
what that means is we've treated the synthetic

1239
00:45:23,827 --> 00:45:25,491
fabric. The hi cue is...

1240
00:45:26,539 --> 00:45:29,402
Antimicrobial, which cuts down on odor. You know,

1241
00:45:29,482 --> 00:45:31,391
a lot of times synthetic can can smell

1242
00:45:31,391 --> 00:45:33,140
funky. Well, that's what the high queue is

1243
00:45:33,140 --> 00:45:35,783
gonna counteract. It's a antimicrobial which is not

1244
00:45:35,783 --> 00:45:37,775
gonna allow that bacteria to grow in the

1245
00:45:37,775 --> 00:45:40,325
synthetic environment. Another piece of this is the

1246
00:45:40,325 --> 00:45:44,719
dot matrix fabric. Which includes our 37.5

1247
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,743
active particle fiber for moisture management and allows

1248
00:45:47,743 --> 00:45:50,701
for quicker drying time, And then the third

1249
00:45:50,701 --> 00:45:52,449
key piece to it all is gonna be

1250
00:45:52,449 --> 00:45:55,231
the no fly zone, which is Prom based

1251
00:45:55,231 --> 00:45:57,457
to cut down on on bugs and insect

1252
00:45:57,854 --> 00:46:00,335
repel that is... Right into the fabric itself.

1253
00:46:00,733 --> 00:46:03,598
For instance, the Wick, which is our arrow

1254
00:46:03,598 --> 00:46:05,907
wall, which is a merino wool blend. That

1255
00:46:05,907 --> 00:46:07,817
1 also has a 37 5 in it.

1256
00:46:08,055 --> 00:46:11,742
It's gonna have natural anti microbial properties in

1257
00:46:11,742 --> 00:46:15,195
the marina wool itself. However, this synthetic versus

1258
00:46:15,573 --> 00:46:16,073
the

1259
00:46:16,452 --> 00:46:18,784
natural fibers the Wick is gonna have a

1260
00:46:18,784 --> 00:46:21,184
little bit longer dry time whereas is the

1261
00:46:21,184 --> 00:46:23,105
whereas the Yum is gonna dry out a

1262
00:46:23,105 --> 00:46:25,505
lot quicker. The Yum in the and the

1263
00:46:25,505 --> 00:46:27,902
synthetic, base layer is purpose built for hot

1264
00:46:27,902 --> 00:46:31,075
climates, which offers maximum moisture wick through the

1265
00:46:31,075 --> 00:46:32,662
in since synthetic fibers.

1266
00:46:33,474 --> 00:46:36,531
In contrast where the Wick merino wool provides

1267
00:46:36,830 --> 00:46:39,946
versatility with thermal regulation across more temperatures with

1268
00:46:39,946 --> 00:46:42,751
the merino... Wool fiber infused with 37 5

1269
00:46:42,751 --> 00:46:45,535
technology for wick performance and then also the

1270
00:46:45,535 --> 00:46:47,603
natural anti stink in there. Yeah. And the

1271
00:46:47,603 --> 00:46:49,527
1 thing I I saw about the no

1272
00:46:49,527 --> 00:46:51,118
fly zone that really kind of appealed to

1273
00:46:51,118 --> 00:46:53,186
me is that it repel ticks to, which

1274
00:46:53,186 --> 00:46:54,936
is super important like, if you're going on

1275
00:46:54,936 --> 00:46:56,766
a early season bear hunt or something like

1276
00:46:56,766 --> 00:46:59,739
that. Yeah. Exactly. That was you know, a

1277
00:46:59,739 --> 00:47:01,340
lot of the customer base has been calling

1278
00:47:01,340 --> 00:47:03,420
for that for quite some time. So we've

1279
00:47:03,420 --> 00:47:05,260
listened to what the customer is asked for.

1280
00:47:05,500 --> 00:47:07,670
Think it lasts up to down 50 washes.

1281
00:47:07,989 --> 00:47:10,777
Is that No fly zone ticks. It's a

1282
00:47:10,777 --> 00:47:12,610
huge part whether you're a back east or

1283
00:47:12,610 --> 00:47:14,602
out west, you know, ticks are a big

1284
00:47:14,602 --> 00:47:17,640
main concern early season hunts. I'm spring bear

1285
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,179
to early season white tails, you know, it's

1286
00:47:20,179 --> 00:47:22,322
just the hunter enemy. What pieces do you

1287
00:47:22,322 --> 00:47:24,401
get coming out in the human line? So

1288
00:47:24,401 --> 00:47:25,991
the human line, we're gonna have it in

1289
00:47:25,991 --> 00:47:27,900
a hoodie that's gonna come in a long

1290
00:47:27,900 --> 00:47:29,649
sleeve crew neck, as well as a short

1291
00:47:29,649 --> 00:47:32,671
sleeve crew neck, and then an underwear, long

1292
00:47:32,671 --> 00:47:35,311
cut boxer brief. I'm a big fan synthetic

1293
00:47:35,311 --> 00:47:37,141
especially during the early season. I mean, you

1294
00:47:37,141 --> 00:47:38,812
know, those longer trips where you stink it

1295
00:47:38,812 --> 00:47:41,119
up. Our consideration, but, man, they sure do

1296
00:47:41,119 --> 00:47:42,844
breathe a lot better than than we'll... Yeah

1297
00:47:43,043 --> 00:47:45,430
Yeah. Absolutely. I've been running this Yum

1298
00:47:46,146 --> 00:47:47,816
doing a lot of up in the early

1299
00:47:47,816 --> 00:47:50,535
season as well as Archer Elk. And then,

1300
00:47:51,409 --> 00:47:52,840
in the Midwest for White Toe hunting as

1301
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:54,906
well. So it's just super versatile. It has

1302
00:47:54,906 --> 00:47:56,972
a... Because it's not knit. It does hold

1303
00:47:56,972 --> 00:47:58,482
up a little bit more to operation as

1304
00:47:58,482 --> 00:48:01,135
well. Yeah. And that dot matrix fabric just

1305
00:48:01,135 --> 00:48:03,135
really lets it breathe, but it's also super

1306
00:48:03,135 --> 00:48:05,614
comfortable to wear against the skin. Yeah. Exactly.

1307
00:48:05,855 --> 00:48:07,695
So it's it's gonna be great for a

1308
00:48:07,695 --> 00:48:09,542
base layer next... To skin and then pull,

1309
00:48:09,621 --> 00:48:11,291
you know, like, a thicker merino top over

1310
00:48:11,291 --> 00:48:13,040
it or you can wear it just as

1311
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:14,948
is in early hot weather as well. Do

1312
00:48:14,948 --> 00:48:17,671
you wanna skip onto your... Other hot weather

1313
00:48:17,671 --> 00:48:19,268
pieces you've had, I guess, for a little

1314
00:48:19,268 --> 00:48:21,742
while, the trace series? Yep. So the trace...

1315
00:48:21,902 --> 00:48:23,578
So I believe that 1 came out last

1316
00:48:23,578 --> 00:48:25,150
year, and that 1 came out

1317
00:48:26,146 --> 00:48:28,538
specifically for the warm weather climates. But it's

1318
00:48:28,538 --> 00:48:30,451
just a little bit different use case.

1319
00:48:31,248 --> 00:48:33,242
So that 1 comes in, the quarter zip

1320
00:48:33,242 --> 00:48:35,249
as well as a hand. And so it's

1321
00:48:35,249 --> 00:48:38,275
got... What we call, kinetic grid. So when

1322
00:48:38,275 --> 00:48:40,186
you actually hold that trace up to the

1323
00:48:40,186 --> 00:48:42,416
light, you can see the little dots throughout

1324
00:48:42,416 --> 00:48:45,626
there. So we've actually developed that fabric to

1325
00:48:45,626 --> 00:48:47,943
just be ultimate breathable. It's like, looking through

1326
00:48:47,943 --> 00:48:49,941
a win screen Almost. So you can feel

1327
00:48:49,941 --> 00:48:52,031
the win coming through cool you off on

1328
00:48:52,031 --> 00:48:53,465
those hot humid mug days,

1329
00:48:54,102 --> 00:48:55,935
or up in the mountains, you know, when

1330
00:48:55,935 --> 00:48:57,528
you're... Trying to get your sweat on training,

1331
00:48:57,688 --> 00:48:59,534
things like that. And that comes in the

1332
00:48:59,534 --> 00:49:01,764
trace quarter zip as well as pants for

1333
00:49:01,764 --> 00:49:03,833
that piece. So would you say that the

1334
00:49:03,833 --> 00:49:06,164
main difference between the yum and the trace

1335
00:49:06,222 --> 00:49:08,064
is... The traces is more of a altered

1336
00:49:08,064 --> 00:49:09,969
layer where the yum would be more next

1337
00:49:09,969 --> 00:49:12,510
to skin layer? Yes. That's exactly correct. Oh,

1338
00:49:12,907 --> 00:49:14,971
alright. Any other pieces we wanna mention for

1339
00:49:14,971 --> 00:49:15,606
the early season?

1340
00:49:16,898 --> 00:49:18,576
In the next couple weeks, we're coming out

1341
00:49:18,576 --> 00:49:20,574
with our new line of the 03:08 pant.

1342
00:49:20,893 --> 00:49:22,971
It's a new line of synthetic pants. So

1343
00:49:22,971 --> 00:49:26,255
we're gonna have... The, lined version for the

1344
00:49:26,255 --> 00:49:29,046
later season, But the early season coming out

1345
00:49:29,046 --> 00:49:31,358
with the synthetic pant in that lineup, and

1346
00:49:31,358 --> 00:49:32,967
it's gonna have, you know, hip zips with

1347
00:49:32,967 --> 00:49:34,479
vents, and things like that to really keep

1348
00:49:34,479 --> 00:49:36,469
you nice and comfortable in the early season

1349
00:49:36,469 --> 00:49:38,539
as well. And the 03:08 just... That's the

1350
00:49:38,539 --> 00:49:40,623
designated of the cut, the straight cut. Yeah.

1351
00:49:41,021 --> 00:49:43,729
Exactly. So 03:08 is gonna be a more

1352
00:49:43,729 --> 00:49:46,277
of a fit than it is. So, basically,

1353
00:49:46,436 --> 00:49:48,348
if you're... Let's call it a 34 by

1354
00:49:48,348 --> 00:49:48,746
32.

1355
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:50,760
In the line version, you're always gonna be

1356
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:53,079
a 34 32 in the online version and

1357
00:49:53,079 --> 00:49:54,760
so on in this series. So you'll always

1358
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:56,360
know where you stand and it's gonna be

1359
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:57,880
exactly the same. Well, you take all the

1360
00:49:57,880 --> 00:49:59,412
guess work out of it Nice. We're trying

1361
00:49:59,412 --> 00:50:01,403
to. Why don't you go ahead and tell

1362
00:50:01,403 --> 00:50:03,077
us kind of about if you get this

1363
00:50:03,077 --> 00:50:04,590
and you need to exchange it, some of

1364
00:50:04,590 --> 00:50:06,839
your customer service base. Things you guys do

1365
00:50:06,839 --> 00:50:09,239
over there first line? Yeah. Exactly. So first

1366
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:10,920
slide, you know, customer service has always been

1367
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:12,440
a number 1 priority of ours, you know,

1368
00:50:12,679 --> 00:50:13,159
phone calls,

1369
00:50:13,813 --> 00:50:14,052
chats,

1370
00:50:14,690 --> 00:50:16,124
emails. There's all sorts of ways to get

1371
00:50:16,124 --> 00:50:18,116
a hold of our customer service team. The

1372
00:50:18,116 --> 00:50:20,347
best way is to go to first site

1373
00:50:20,347 --> 00:50:22,193
dot com. Scroll all way to the bottom.

1374
00:50:22,353 --> 00:50:24,342
You'll see a returns exchange button in orange.

1375
00:50:24,819 --> 00:50:26,172
Click that, you'll be able to punch in

1376
00:50:26,172 --> 00:50:28,081
your order number, as well as your email

1377
00:50:28,081 --> 00:50:28,161
address,

1378
00:50:28,891 --> 00:50:30,026
to do free exchanges

1379
00:50:30,478 --> 00:50:31,510
to make sure that we're getting you in

1380
00:50:31,510 --> 00:50:33,416
the right fit and the right pieces. You

1381
00:50:33,416 --> 00:50:35,797
you cannot exchange across product lines, but you

1382
00:50:35,797 --> 00:50:36,170
can

1383
00:50:36,849 --> 00:50:38,690
exchange, you know, for different sizes, size up

1384
00:50:38,690 --> 00:50:40,530
size down to making sure we're getting you

1385
00:50:40,530 --> 00:50:41,969
on the right fit all the time. Alright,

1386
00:50:42,210 --> 00:50:44,702
Michael. I appreciate you, coming on. Churn us

1387
00:50:44,702 --> 00:50:47,407
with these new items. I know the couple

1388
00:50:47,407 --> 00:50:49,077
staff members. No doubt will be wearing them.

1389
00:50:49,236 --> 00:50:50,827
I'll be looking forward to hearing and how

1390
00:50:50,827 --> 00:50:52,816
they like. Awesome, Sam. Thanks for having me.

1391
00:50:53,389 --> 00:50:54,985
I'm happy to have the guys from Sc

1392
00:50:54,985 --> 00:50:56,901
gear back on the show. Today we have

1393
00:50:57,061 --> 00:51:00,014
Josh Jensen to run us through screens, warm

1394
00:51:00,014 --> 00:51:02,503
season offerings. So welcome back, Josh? Hey Thanks,

1395
00:51:02,663 --> 00:51:04,658
sam for having me. Alright. I'm pretty excited.

1396
00:51:04,897 --> 00:51:06,892
Why don't you go ahead and just start

1397
00:51:06,892 --> 00:51:09,126
laying out your your favorite warm season pieces,

1398
00:51:09,286 --> 00:51:11,368
I guess. Yeah. It's crazy to think we're

1399
00:51:11,368 --> 00:51:13,513
already up that time a year where the

1400
00:51:13,513 --> 00:51:15,896
hunting season starting. And so we we do.

1401
00:51:15,976 --> 00:51:18,383
We have some really nice this early season

1402
00:51:18,614 --> 00:51:19,912
type of gear where it's

1403
00:51:20,291 --> 00:51:22,228
70 mid... In know, mid seventies

1404
00:51:22,606 --> 00:51:24,442
to even up to a hundred degrees where

1405
00:51:24,442 --> 00:51:26,677
we're sometimes that's where the temperatures hit. And

1406
00:51:26,677 --> 00:51:28,849
so Having the right gear. It's super important.

1407
00:51:29,170 --> 00:51:29,969
We always

1408
00:51:30,449 --> 00:51:33,010
love merino wool. We we run a couple

1409
00:51:33,010 --> 00:51:35,902
different variations of merino merino wool a lightweight

1410
00:51:35,902 --> 00:51:36,641
01:50

1411
00:51:36,780 --> 00:51:39,172
Gsm merino wool top, and and we have

1412
00:51:39,172 --> 00:51:40,528
that in a crew neck and quarter zip,

1413
00:51:40,688 --> 00:51:42,841
and a short sleeve top as well. So

1414
00:51:42,921 --> 00:51:45,328
I'm always wearing a merino wool top. When

1415
00:51:45,487 --> 00:51:47,634
I go out. We also have a couple

1416
00:51:47,634 --> 00:51:49,780
pant options for this upcoming year. We have

1417
00:51:49,780 --> 00:51:53,120
was felt the Ui, pant, super lightweight, thin,

1418
00:51:53,358 --> 00:51:55,925
very breathable material. Has a side vents.

1419
00:51:56,405 --> 00:51:57,065
We also

1420
00:51:58,324 --> 00:52:01,605
launched a new pant last year called Venture

1421
00:52:01,605 --> 00:52:03,773
flex pants We ran a kind of a

1422
00:52:03,773 --> 00:52:05,764
first version this whole year. Got some really

1423
00:52:05,764 --> 00:52:08,550
good feedback from our from our hunters, and

1424
00:52:08,550 --> 00:52:11,355
we've made some changes to those. We've tapered

1425
00:52:11,355 --> 00:52:13,835
legs a little bit, and we also extended

1426
00:52:13,835 --> 00:52:16,155
the hips just to give a more of

1427
00:52:16,155 --> 00:52:18,889
a comfort fit for those pants. And so

1428
00:52:18,889 --> 00:52:21,046
we're excited to have those and they'll... Those

1429
00:52:21,046 --> 00:52:23,523
will be hitting actually this month just right

1430
00:52:23,523 --> 00:52:25,680
before season. So we'll stay tuned for that.

1431
00:52:26,333 --> 00:52:27,767
We also... Like... I mean, I love the

1432
00:52:27,767 --> 00:52:29,918
grid light jacket. It's just a super thin

1433
00:52:29,918 --> 00:52:32,627
jacket for those cool mornings before it gets

1434
00:52:32,627 --> 00:52:34,873
too hot. And it's just... It's super comfortable.

1435
00:52:35,113 --> 00:52:37,903
That comes in not only solids but camel

1436
00:52:37,903 --> 00:52:40,375
as long with all our other gear. We're

1437
00:52:40,375 --> 00:52:41,650
we're reaching out and trying to get some

1438
00:52:41,650 --> 00:52:44,051
work solid as well, a lot of hunters

1439
00:52:44,051 --> 00:52:46,356
like that. But Say those are my favorite

1440
00:52:46,356 --> 00:52:47,548
pieces for early season.

1441
00:52:48,343 --> 00:52:49,694
If you're a vest guy, we have a

1442
00:52:49,694 --> 00:52:52,175
hard troubled vest, which is always been a

1443
00:52:52,175 --> 00:52:54,566
a great seller for those cool mornings and

1444
00:52:54,566 --> 00:52:56,239
throw in your pack for when it warms

1445
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:58,525
up, It just keeps your core warm, but

1446
00:52:58,723 --> 00:53:00,632
lot of flexibility in your arms and and

1447
00:53:00,632 --> 00:53:03,099
shoulders for Bow hunters, which is we're at

1448
00:53:03,099 --> 00:53:05,167
for this season. So if I say anything

1449
00:53:05,167 --> 00:53:06,678
those would be my top picks for those

1450
00:53:06,678 --> 00:53:09,160
4 or 5 items for early season hunting?

1451
00:53:09,558 --> 00:53:11,467
Yeah. I've been using sc for, I don't

1452
00:53:11,467 --> 00:53:13,298
know, 5 or 6 years now, probably since

1453
00:53:13,298 --> 00:53:15,128
the beginning. I really love the you un

1454
00:53:15,128 --> 00:53:17,290
a pant in the early season. It's like

1455
00:53:17,290 --> 00:53:18,980
a rips stop Polyester

1456
00:53:19,432 --> 00:53:21,574
that's breathable. What do you call that fabric

1457
00:53:21,574 --> 00:53:22,765
that it's made out of Josh do you

1458
00:53:22,765 --> 00:53:25,006
remember? Yeah. It's it's just it's a super

1459
00:53:25,006 --> 00:53:27,557
thin polyester that breeze really easy, and it

1460
00:53:27,557 --> 00:53:30,427
is. It's very durable and can go through

1461
00:53:30,427 --> 00:53:32,554
anything. You know, that is 1 thing

1462
00:53:32,912 --> 00:53:35,850
that we feel like, we have probably the

1463
00:53:35,850 --> 00:53:38,550
best warranty out there. Well, we tell our

1464
00:53:38,550 --> 00:53:40,773
customers is if something were to happen out

1465
00:53:40,773 --> 00:53:43,497
in the field where it wasn't your fault.

1466
00:53:43,897 --> 00:53:46,453
We're gonna warranty that that gear. So you're

1467
00:53:46,453 --> 00:53:49,465
running through breath trees, something snacks that it

1468
00:53:49,585 --> 00:53:51,502
tariffs at a same income and then, We're

1469
00:53:51,502 --> 00:53:53,340
going to take care of all that stuff.

1470
00:53:53,500 --> 00:53:54,698
You know, unless you take a knife to

1471
00:53:54,698 --> 00:53:56,456
it or or you cause your, you know,

1472
00:53:56,536 --> 00:53:58,775
any type of accent to the gear. We

1473
00:53:58,775 --> 00:54:01,232
feel like it's our responsibility to make the

1474
00:54:01,232 --> 00:54:02,738
best gear out there. So we're gonna take

1475
00:54:02,738 --> 00:54:04,402
care of you if something does happen to.

1476
00:54:04,894 --> 00:54:06,735
I know you're direct to consumer. So how

1477
00:54:06,735 --> 00:54:09,135
does how does that work out? So super

1478
00:54:09,135 --> 00:54:11,215
easy process. If something does happen to it.

1479
00:54:11,375 --> 00:54:13,295
They're a portal on our website. I just

1480
00:54:13,295 --> 00:54:14,827
go to a and you might have to

1481
00:54:14,827 --> 00:54:16,502
take a little picture of what happened to

1482
00:54:16,502 --> 00:54:19,134
it. We just approve it. You'll get, sent

1483
00:54:19,134 --> 00:54:21,766
a return label, put in the mail, and

1484
00:54:21,766 --> 00:54:24,411
we'll either fix it or replace it So

1485
00:54:24,411 --> 00:54:26,000
super easy on your part. No. I was

1486
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:27,588
talking more about just ordering so they go

1487
00:54:27,588 --> 00:54:29,733
a website order how to... Since it's direct

1488
00:54:29,733 --> 00:54:31,162
to consumer. What's the best way to get

1489
00:54:31,162 --> 00:54:32,433
the best fit I guess is what I'm

1490
00:54:32,433 --> 00:54:35,318
asking you? Gotcha. Yeah. Just website... We have

1491
00:54:35,318 --> 00:54:37,715
a, sizing guide on there. Look up your

1492
00:54:37,715 --> 00:54:39,633
sizes. We we've made a lot of changes,

1493
00:54:39,793 --> 00:54:41,232
so it's more of a true fit now.

1494
00:54:41,391 --> 00:54:42,771
So if you're 34

1495
00:54:42,830 --> 00:54:46,032
pant order a 34. If you're halfway between

1496
00:54:46,032 --> 00:54:48,340
that, order up to, you know, the next

1497
00:54:48,340 --> 00:54:50,251
sides, if you're a 35, we recommend or

1498
00:54:50,251 --> 00:54:51,525
order in 36 pant,

1499
00:54:52,098 --> 00:54:54,724
but super easy. It's an easy return policy

1500
00:54:54,724 --> 00:54:56,078
too if if you need to return it,

1501
00:54:56,317 --> 00:54:58,386
that doesn't fit, then profit if you go

1502
00:54:58,386 --> 00:54:59,715
to the portal, you just

1503
00:55:00,231 --> 00:55:02,692
submit that information. You'll get a return label,

1504
00:55:03,168 --> 00:55:05,550
return it, We'll replace it For free. We

1505
00:55:05,550 --> 00:55:06,900
we take care of all the shipping on

1506
00:55:06,900 --> 00:55:08,408
that end and until you get the right

1507
00:55:08,408 --> 00:55:08,567
sign.

1508
00:55:09,300 --> 00:55:11,619
Alright. Sounds pretty easy. Yeah. I've used all

1509
00:55:11,619 --> 00:55:14,340
of these pieces. Your merino wool is a

1510
00:55:14,340 --> 00:55:17,434
spun bland. They're, super durable. I really haven't

1511
00:55:17,554 --> 00:55:19,861
had any rips or runs and any of

1512
00:55:19,861 --> 00:55:21,691
the merino pieces that I had, other than

1513
00:55:21,691 --> 00:55:23,362
a chip monk eating a hole in a

1514
00:55:23,362 --> 00:55:23,919
couple of them.

1515
00:55:25,443 --> 00:55:28,142
I I haven't had any problems there. So

1516
00:55:28,301 --> 00:55:30,364
I still have... Well, in we... I'll go

1517
00:55:30,364 --> 00:55:31,872
ahead. I was just gonna say we love

1518
00:55:31,872 --> 00:55:34,123
it we love... I I mean, I personally

1519
00:55:34,123 --> 00:55:36,120
love merino wool outside of the chip months

1520
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:38,278
eating, eating it, but never had that happen.

1521
00:55:38,438 --> 00:55:41,155
But Bree so nice it it absorbs the

1522
00:55:41,155 --> 00:55:43,239
sweat. And moisture from your body. And so

1523
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:45,945
it keeps you dry, and... But it also

1524
00:55:45,945 --> 00:55:48,013
like off dot comfort. And it's it just

1525
00:55:48,013 --> 00:55:48,513
regulates

1526
00:55:48,903 --> 00:55:51,292
temperatures, you know, if it's too hot, it

1527
00:55:51,292 --> 00:55:53,123
keeps you cool if it's cold, it it

1528
00:55:53,123 --> 00:55:54,636
keeps your warm as well. And so it

1529
00:55:54,636 --> 00:55:56,546
it really is a an awesome fabric to

1530
00:55:56,546 --> 00:55:59,345
have Yeah. I drew a Nevada early season

1531
00:55:59,345 --> 00:56:02,048
dear archer tag last year. In 1 of

1532
00:56:02,048 --> 00:56:04,275
the days I found myself wearing the original

1533
00:56:04,275 --> 00:56:05,547
you and a pants that I've had. I

1534
00:56:05,547 --> 00:56:07,553
don't know. They're probably 5 years sold. They

1535
00:56:07,553 --> 00:56:10,208
probably have 50 field days, maybe even more

1536
00:56:10,267 --> 00:56:12,662
with scouting and shed hunting on there, and

1537
00:56:12,662 --> 00:56:14,897
they're still just as durable. I haven't had

1538
00:56:14,897 --> 00:56:16,426
any of the super blow out So, yeah.

1539
00:56:16,664 --> 00:56:18,648
I'm super impressed with that. I just wanna

1540
00:56:18,648 --> 00:56:21,027
swing back the the venture pants that you

1541
00:56:21,027 --> 00:56:23,249
brought out last year. Now that doesn't come

1542
00:56:23,249 --> 00:56:25,731
in any of your... So camel patterns. That's

1543
00:56:25,731 --> 00:56:28,203
just a, like, a everyday pant wear that

1544
00:56:28,203 --> 00:56:30,277
you can wear scouting, or I guess you

1545
00:56:30,277 --> 00:56:32,909
could wear a solid color hunting too in

1546
00:56:32,909 --> 00:56:35,074
the early season. What color Is that offered

1547
00:56:35,074 --> 00:56:37,163
in? Yeah. So the original

1548
00:56:37,536 --> 00:56:40,475
test that we we launched flash for last

1549
00:56:40,475 --> 00:56:42,675
year was in the olive green and asked

1550
00:56:42,794 --> 00:56:45,837
brown. And we actually have such great

1551
00:56:46,211 --> 00:56:48,198
feedback on that pant. We are doing it

1552
00:56:48,198 --> 00:56:50,423
in the some and solace pattern, and those

1553
00:56:50,423 --> 00:56:51,479
will be available

1554
00:56:51,789 --> 00:56:53,549
as we speak within the next week or

1555
00:56:53,549 --> 00:56:54,829
2? 0, yeah. That's awesome.

1556
00:56:55,469 --> 00:56:56,989
I guess closing out real quick. Why don't

1557
00:56:56,989 --> 00:56:59,242
you tell about squeeze Hunt club there? You

1558
00:56:59,242 --> 00:57:01,470
bet Yeah. Yeah. So we we launched a,

1559
00:57:02,107 --> 00:57:05,290
a subscription platform. Alright. It's a member's hunt

1560
00:57:05,290 --> 00:57:06,895
club, what we call it? You do it

1561
00:57:06,895 --> 00:57:08,801
monthly or annually. You pay your 10 dollars,

1562
00:57:09,119 --> 00:57:11,025
or if you wanna do an annual subscription,

1563
00:57:11,422 --> 00:57:14,464
It's a hundred bucks. And it's like a

1564
00:57:14,694 --> 00:57:16,845
health savings account. But we take that 10

1565
00:57:16,845 --> 00:57:18,837
dollars. We put it into a store credit

1566
00:57:18,837 --> 00:57:20,749
and that you can use anytime so you

1567
00:57:20,749 --> 00:57:22,183
can save up for a year or 2,

1568
00:57:22,501 --> 00:57:24,905
then you have all that money back. And

1569
00:57:24,905 --> 00:57:26,994
you can you can use it right checkout

1570
00:57:27,209 --> 00:57:29,354
anytime. And then you also get a member's

1571
00:57:29,354 --> 00:57:32,228
only discount the entire year throughout that if

1572
00:57:32,228 --> 00:57:33,893
you're a hunt club member. So really, if

1573
00:57:33,893 --> 00:57:35,400
you look at it, it's not costing you

1574
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:36,828
anything, you get it all back in the

1575
00:57:36,828 --> 00:57:39,389
store credit, You get discount, We do monthly

1576
00:57:39,389 --> 00:57:41,945
prizes and giveaways for hunt club members, we'll

1577
00:57:41,945 --> 00:57:44,422
run special promotions, like, if we do a

1578
00:57:44,422 --> 00:57:46,340
a site wide sale, which we usually do

1579
00:57:46,340 --> 00:57:48,755
in August. You'll get a discount, put plus,

1580
00:57:48,994 --> 00:57:50,914
Get your 10 percent or your home club

1581
00:57:50,914 --> 00:57:52,994
price on top of that as well. And

1582
00:57:52,994 --> 00:57:55,246
so really cool program to use. Yeah. And

1583
00:57:55,246 --> 00:57:58,266
it also has a discounted shipping benefit to

1584
00:57:58,266 --> 00:57:59,537
to be part of the club. I'm part

1585
00:57:59,537 --> 00:58:01,841
of the club. Mh. You know, I just

1586
00:58:01,841 --> 00:58:03,921
know that I'm gonna need a piece at

1587
00:58:03,921 --> 00:58:05,769
least once a year. I do the annual

1588
00:58:05,983 --> 00:58:07,965
subscription. I always know. I'm gonna spend at

1589
00:58:07,965 --> 00:58:09,789
least a hundred bucks a free. So it

1590
00:58:09,789 --> 00:58:11,296
may... It just makes good sense for me.

1591
00:58:11,629 --> 00:58:13,538
Yeah. And and in the long run, it

1592
00:58:13,538 --> 00:58:15,367
costs you nothing gives you a lot of

1593
00:58:15,367 --> 00:58:17,754
discount, and it's just an opportunity to win

1594
00:58:17,754 --> 00:58:19,522
some cool stuff. Thing, like you said, free

1595
00:58:19,522 --> 00:58:21,516
shipping. If you spend over 50 bucks and

1596
00:58:21,516 --> 00:58:22,793
so, a lot of different perks to it.

1597
00:58:23,032 --> 00:58:24,947
Alright, Josh. Anything else you wanna add before

1598
00:58:24,947 --> 00:58:27,193
we close this out No. I appreciate you

1599
00:58:27,193 --> 00:58:29,264
having up. We we're big fans of rock

1600
00:58:29,264 --> 00:58:31,017
slide, and then everything you guys are doing.

1601
00:58:31,495 --> 00:58:33,327
Alright. We'll catch up with you later. No

1602
00:58:33,327 --> 00:58:35,135
doubt. I appreciate you guys coming on and

1603
00:58:35,254 --> 00:58:37,247
sharing your warm season clothing with us? Thanks,

1604
00:58:37,406 --> 00:58:40,356
Sam. Moving on as such a natural fit

1605
00:58:40,356 --> 00:58:43,088
and any talk about the early season is

1606
00:58:43,146 --> 00:58:45,239
hydration. I ask long time rock light sponsors,

1607
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:47,480
hard side hydration to come on and tell

1608
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:49,159
a bit about themselves. So we have Dane

1609
00:58:49,319 --> 00:58:52,494
Williams and Dustin Gosh show, the founding partners

1610
00:58:52,693 --> 00:58:54,682
joining us on the show. I gotta try

1611
00:58:54,682 --> 00:58:56,273
these guys out a couple years ago. I

1612
00:58:56,273 --> 00:58:57,863
saw him at the Expo. I think it

1613
00:58:57,863 --> 00:58:59,772
was like their first year, and I was

1614
00:58:59,772 --> 00:59:01,537
super intrigued to try it out, but about

1615
00:59:01,537 --> 00:59:03,151
we'll just have them give us a little

1616
00:59:03,606 --> 00:59:05,754
introduction, and we'll go from there. So welcome

1617
00:59:05,754 --> 00:59:07,425
to the show, guys. Thanks. Thanks for having

1618
00:59:07,425 --> 00:59:09,451
us. Yep. Thanks. So, basically,

1619
00:59:10,222 --> 00:59:12,686
we were a hunting and broke some water

1620
00:59:12,686 --> 00:59:14,912
bags and bladder, and so, you know, we

1621
00:59:14,912 --> 00:59:17,478
created parts side hydration, which is

1622
00:59:17,869 --> 00:59:20,347
our solution. It's kinda it's a cap and

1623
00:59:20,347 --> 00:59:22,264
host system that'll go on any wide mouth

1624
00:59:22,264 --> 00:59:24,901
na jean or yeti yan type bottle and

1625
00:59:24,901 --> 00:59:26,833
a lot of other wide mouth bottles. That

1626
00:59:26,833 --> 00:59:28,583
was, like, our first product. We call it

1627
00:59:28,583 --> 00:59:30,651
the sw rig, wide mouth. So it's just

1628
00:59:30,651 --> 00:59:32,878
like a lot more durable than a bladder,

1629
00:59:33,037 --> 00:59:35,195
easier to plate, did a bladder easier to

1630
00:59:35,195 --> 00:59:38,448
use. And then, last year at Hon Expo,

1631
00:59:38,686 --> 00:59:41,382
we brought out the new ultra light, which

1632
00:59:41,382 --> 00:59:44,271
fits smart water bottles, fiji water bottles, you

1633
00:59:44,271 --> 00:59:46,827
know, regular convenience store type bottles So kinda

1634
00:59:46,827 --> 00:59:48,800
of 2 options ultra light in a white

1635
00:59:49,078 --> 00:59:50,828
when you get those caps, they come with

1636
00:59:50,828 --> 00:59:52,419
the longest holes for those type of bottles.

1637
00:59:52,578 --> 00:59:53,930
So when you get our cap, it's gonna

1638
00:59:53,930 --> 00:59:56,491
have Straw that fits, like, say, the yeti

1639
00:59:56,491 --> 00:59:58,560
yan or 50 ounce bottle, but it's really

1640
00:59:58,560 --> 00:59:59,674
neat because you can just trim it to

1641
00:59:59,674 --> 01:00:01,505
whatever bottle. You're looking to use it you

1642
01:00:01,505 --> 01:00:03,574
know, so the tallest is the analogy 48

1643
01:00:03,574 --> 01:00:06,137
ounce silo triton type bottle. You run it

1644
01:00:06,137 --> 01:00:08,131
on any setup. So, like, Dustin said, it's

1645
01:00:08,131 --> 01:00:10,524
a it's a durable option, something that allows

1646
01:00:10,524 --> 01:00:12,358
you to stay hydrated and, you know, if

1647
01:00:12,358 --> 01:00:14,273
you're kind of annoyed with bladder, like, we

1648
01:00:14,273 --> 01:00:16,522
were... Gives you that option to have that

1649
01:00:16,522 --> 01:00:19,077
convenience of a hydration kit except for running

1650
01:00:19,077 --> 01:00:20,992
it to something durable. That's not gonna fail

1651
01:00:20,992 --> 01:00:22,748
on in the back country. So... Yeah. That's

1652
01:00:22,748 --> 01:00:24,480
when I first saw. I was pretty excited

1653
01:00:24,599 --> 01:00:26,194
I like the na, but I like the

1654
01:00:26,194 --> 01:00:28,666
convenience of a bladder, just a hose, instant

1655
01:00:28,666 --> 01:00:30,740
water. And I think that this was a

1656
01:00:30,740 --> 01:00:32,973
perfect marriage there and the drinking hose to

1657
01:00:32,973 --> 01:00:35,463
the na, you get the durability. And the

1658
01:00:35,463 --> 01:00:36,822
ease of clean and that's the 1 thing

1659
01:00:36,981 --> 01:00:38,739
I didn't like my... About a bladder, either.

1660
01:00:38,979 --> 01:00:40,577
You know, when it's super hot out, I

1661
01:00:40,577 --> 01:00:42,255
like to run flavors in my water a

1662
01:00:42,255 --> 01:00:44,268
lot. Yeah. And just being able to clean

1663
01:00:44,268 --> 01:00:46,266
that bottle out when you're done, super convenient.

1664
01:00:46,425 --> 01:00:48,423
Yeah. Told me to go electrolytes lights and

1665
01:00:48,423 --> 01:00:50,101
things you can add in and kinda makes

1666
01:00:50,101 --> 01:00:51,954
that hike a little easier or something. Some

1667
01:00:51,954 --> 01:00:53,952
little taste in different water and not running

1668
01:00:53,952 --> 01:00:55,869
it through the hoses is nice. So when

1669
01:00:55,869 --> 01:00:58,186
we were prototyping the ultra light in the

1670
01:00:58,186 --> 01:01:00,199
side pouch of my pack, I would have

1671
01:01:00,199 --> 01:01:02,594
an a jean, a 48 ounce algae gene

1672
01:01:02,594 --> 01:01:05,628
and then a 33 ounce smart water bottle,

1673
01:01:05,788 --> 01:01:07,384
and I would mix all my drinks in

1674
01:01:07,384 --> 01:01:09,300
that smart water bottle, and then I would

1675
01:01:09,300 --> 01:01:11,970
just switch the hose between the 2 bottles

1676
01:01:12,029 --> 01:01:13,886
depending on if I wanna, you know, electrolytes

1677
01:01:14,024 --> 01:01:16,418
or or water from the na. So that

1678
01:01:16,418 --> 01:01:17,695
was when we were testing it, and that...

1679
01:01:17,935 --> 01:01:20,420
That's kinda how I still run everything, just

1680
01:01:20,420 --> 01:01:22,252
kinda 1 of each there and then I...

1681
01:01:22,491 --> 01:01:24,244
After hunt, I can just throw out my

1682
01:01:24,244 --> 01:01:25,677
smart water bottle, and I don't have to

1683
01:01:25,677 --> 01:01:27,764
worry about clean anything out. So we're right

1684
01:01:27,764 --> 01:01:29,914
in the middle of total luxury challenges and

1685
01:01:29,914 --> 01:01:31,588
lots of events and things like that in

1686
01:01:31,588 --> 01:01:33,101
the summer here. So... But it's neat to

1687
01:01:33,101 --> 01:01:35,172
see everybody's kind of their first impression when

1688
01:01:35,172 --> 01:01:36,367
they see it like, wait a minute. You

1689
01:01:36,367 --> 01:01:38,049
know, they'll walk by and kinda get that.

1690
01:01:38,525 --> 01:01:40,188
Like, some people know right away and some

1691
01:01:40,188 --> 01:01:42,248
people are, is it a filter? And, yeah.

1692
01:01:42,407 --> 01:01:44,204
It's a it's neat to to see. So

1693
01:01:44,324 --> 01:01:45,999
Yeah. I moved on to the ultra light

1694
01:01:45,999 --> 01:01:47,753
too. I ran that last year. I like

1695
01:01:47,753 --> 01:01:49,667
the convenience set. You do save quite a

1696
01:01:49,667 --> 01:01:51,422
bit of weight over in a with a

1697
01:01:51,422 --> 01:01:53,710
smart water bottle. I haven't had any leaks

1698
01:01:53,908 --> 01:01:55,575
But I use that in the early season

1699
01:01:55,575 --> 01:01:57,163
and then when it gets into the colder

1700
01:01:57,163 --> 01:01:58,989
season, I go back to the regular na

1701
01:01:58,989 --> 01:02:01,688
jean. Yeah. Just because that doesn't freeze up

1702
01:02:01,688 --> 01:02:03,610
as much, I don't think. Right. And what's

1703
01:02:03,610 --> 01:02:05,359
nice you can find those smart water bottles

1704
01:02:05,359 --> 01:02:07,666
in a 50 ounce. Yeah. Which is nice

1705
01:02:07,666 --> 01:02:08,859
because then you're carrying a lot of water

1706
01:02:08,859 --> 01:02:11,219
and you... You the bottle weights, how much

1707
01:02:11,339 --> 01:02:13,014
fraction of an ounce, I think. So... Yeah.

1708
01:02:13,173 --> 01:02:15,348
On the website, we have a few... They're

1709
01:02:15,407 --> 01:02:17,480
reversible sleeves or, like, a cozy type thing,

1710
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:19,235
You can run over those smart water bottles

1711
01:02:19,235 --> 01:02:21,244
too to give them some insulation kinda get

1712
01:02:21,244 --> 01:02:21,744
the

1713
01:02:22,279 --> 01:02:24,111
insulation value up and kinda not have the

1714
01:02:24,111 --> 01:02:26,182
weight of an insulated bottle. Oh, man. I

1715
01:02:26,182 --> 01:02:28,070
might have to check that out. Yeah. I've

1716
01:02:28,190 --> 01:02:29,469
I like that on my analogy. And like

1717
01:02:29,550 --> 01:02:31,230
I said, mostly to keep it from freezing

1718
01:02:31,230 --> 01:02:32,829
when it gets cold and that's the 1

1719
01:02:32,829 --> 01:02:34,750
thing that really intrigued me that I had

1720
01:02:34,750 --> 01:02:36,510
problems with in the late season my bladder,

1721
01:02:36,750 --> 01:02:38,440
the hose would free shut and you can

1722
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:39,949
get the water out now. I just reached

1723
01:02:39,949 --> 01:02:41,777
down if it froze, just string straight from

1724
01:02:41,777 --> 01:02:44,160
the the Na top, so it's super convenient

1725
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:45,748
if I run into that promo. Cold weather

1726
01:02:45,748 --> 01:02:47,099
is 1 thing that we've heard a lot.

1727
01:02:47,829 --> 01:02:49,339
From our customers that they want, you know,

1728
01:02:49,498 --> 01:02:51,724
better performance and real freezing cold weather. So...

1729
01:02:51,963 --> 01:02:53,792
And it's something we've been working on since

1730
01:02:53,792 --> 01:02:55,541
that first year because we heard a lot

1731
01:02:55,541 --> 01:02:57,859
of complaints about that. And so we've been

1732
01:02:57,859 --> 01:03:00,639
working towards better solutions for that. It's just

1733
01:03:00,639 --> 01:03:02,306
it's a hard thing to do to make

1734
01:03:02,306 --> 01:03:04,291
everything work, you know, water wants to freeze

1735
01:03:04,291 --> 01:03:06,689
when it's at cold. So try different options,

1736
01:03:06,848 --> 01:03:09,788
different solutions till we find something that we

1737
01:03:09,788 --> 01:03:11,615
hit on that we really think is worth

1738
01:03:11,615 --> 01:03:12,385
bringing to market

1739
01:03:12,742 --> 01:03:14,174
Just as a recap, you can go with

1740
01:03:14,174 --> 01:03:16,243
the ultra light, which is the cap, and

1741
01:03:16,243 --> 01:03:18,868
it basically fits 28 millimeter cap, which is,

1742
01:03:19,027 --> 01:03:21,509
like, regular soda cap, smart water cap, that

1743
01:03:21,509 --> 01:03:23,184
thing, so be a regular bottle. Then they

1744
01:03:23,184 --> 01:03:25,817
have big rig wide, which fits the... Any

1745
01:03:25,817 --> 01:03:27,413
na bottle, so you can use a smaller

1746
01:03:27,413 --> 01:03:29,983
bottle or a bigger bottle And like Dustin

1747
01:03:29,983 --> 01:03:31,422
was talking about. If you use a bigger

1748
01:03:31,422 --> 01:03:33,099
bottle. No problem. If you use a smaller

1749
01:03:33,099 --> 01:03:34,618
bottle, you just trim the hose off, and

1750
01:03:34,618 --> 01:03:36,137
you can run the smaller bottle will problem

1751
01:03:36,137 --> 01:03:37,869
either. So. And then they have a full

1752
01:03:37,989 --> 01:03:39,344
set up. That'll give you the Na jean,

1753
01:03:39,503 --> 01:03:41,494
the whole setup ready to go. Create from

1754
01:03:41,494 --> 01:03:43,327
them there, and they got a bunch of

1755
01:03:43,327 --> 01:03:45,876
other cool accessories there. So people wanna check

1756
01:03:45,876 --> 01:03:47,802
out more about what you guys do or

1757
01:03:47,802 --> 01:03:50,425
they find you at? Our website is WWW

1758
01:03:50,425 --> 01:03:52,809
dot hard side hydration dot com, and we

1759
01:03:52,809 --> 01:03:53,683
also have

1760
01:03:54,398 --> 01:03:57,524
Instagram Hard side hydration, and you'll see kind

1761
01:03:57,524 --> 01:03:58,881
of what we're doing here and there going

1762
01:03:58,881 --> 01:04:01,117
to tax some some different things. So... Yeah.

1763
01:04:01,276 --> 01:04:02,474
For sure. So if you guys get over

1764
01:04:02,474 --> 01:04:04,171
that way, be sure to check them out

1765
01:04:04,230 --> 01:04:06,322
tac or hit them up there on the

1766
01:04:06,322 --> 01:04:08,480
web and and check out heart side. I'm

1767
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:10,237
sure they'll have something that you maybe haven't

1768
01:04:10,237 --> 01:04:12,966
seen before. So. Thanks, guys. Thanks you. Speaking

1769
01:04:12,966 --> 01:04:14,554
of the show, if you have a topic

1770
01:04:14,554 --> 01:04:16,696
you wanna hear more about, or if you

1771
01:04:16,696 --> 01:04:18,125
yourself would like to be a guest on

1772
01:04:18,284 --> 01:04:20,925
Tips, Tuesday, please reach out to me at

1773
01:04:20,925 --> 01:04:22,684
sam at rocks dot com.

1774
01:04:23,405 --> 01:04:25,505
Until next time, this has ben

1775
01:04:25,964 --> 01:04:26,605
Sam Weaver.

1776
01:04:29,019 --> 01:04:30,450
With the help of sports men and women

1777
01:04:30,450 --> 01:04:32,836
and concerned citizens we can defeat the hunting

1778
01:04:32,836 --> 01:04:34,824
bands here in Colorado. Go to say the

1779
01:04:34,824 --> 01:04:36,652
hunt Colorado dot com. Thanks for listening.