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Alright. So
I said it's a special edition because I
know a lot of you are gonna have
questions, and we did a 2 hour q
and a, 2 days ago.
And not much has changed since then as
far as the way I feel this thing
shakes out,
but the good news is
we're gearing up for a fight. So we're
gonna fight and fight hard. We're gonna swing
for the fences.
We're gonna
you know,
try to give the knockout out blow,
and
we live in unprecedented times.
When tyrant
totally
disregard the
constitution,
and they are willing to
to file themselves
by violating their oath of office,
by lying to constituents
by selling their soul in the process
of
breaking their oath.
And committing m
and treason
if you ask me.
That is
to deprive you and I
of our
constitutional protected rights.
There's
constitutional limits to their power,
and they don't care. They think they have
absolute power
and that they are the grant of rights.
They are trying to separate
the people
into a divided class they want 1 set
of rules for the gen entry and for
the
politician in the political ruling class.
And the law enforcement that protects them.
And
another set of rules
for the peasant tree
and the ser and the taxpayers payers
and the
second class of citizen.
And this is where we find ourselves today.
Where they are un
unconstitutional
making law
that would violate you of your com... Your
constitutional
rights.
Your
natural born right as a constitutional,
as part of we the people.
So
I know you've all heard this speech many
times.
And,
but
we are staring down the barrel of
government violence
focused on
the people of Massachusetts.
My daughter is joining me. Esther, you can
say, hi.
So Esther there's been working today. She's been
working the counter been
you know, helping people as best she can.
She's a little out of practice with her
terminology and gun knowledge. So we'll have to
fix that and get her back into the
shop to
get everybody straightened out and square.
But
it's funny because couple of people of
you know, asked her for some help, and
then
they're like,
are are
Are you family? And she's like gavin his
daughter.
And they're like, we see the resemblance? I
was like thanks lot.
She says, thanks a lot for comparing her
looks from her dad. But
you know, I think that's a compliment.
Look at... I mean,
anyway... Call for you. Compliment for me.
Oh, man. I say she gets her good
looks from her mother, but...
Alright.
So Esther,
probably doesn't know this, but guess what the
state did.
They have
made it so that you
What what did you shoot your first deer
with? Do you remember?
Thousand 22.
20 gauge.
It was a 20 gauge Remington 1100 semi
automatic shotgun.
And
They wanna say that you can't hunt with
a semi automatic shotgun anymore.
Whether it's be for pheasant or for deer
or for Coyote,
You just can't hunt with a semi auto
shotgun on a rifle anymore. Period. Makes sense.
It does not make sense. You're a hundred
percent correct.
And
this is 1 of the many layers of
unconstitutional law. And by the way,
if that isn't an example of government taking
on the role of parent, I don't know
what is.
So
it's
Then says it'll blow the shoulder off and
then the lungs out of the deer. That's
why... Yeah.
So,
it's it's mind boggling.
By the way, that's my choice as a
father,
not your choice as the government tyrant. You
don't get to make those decisions for my
family.
I'm the 1 as the father who gets
to make those decisions about which gun. My
daughter will take a field hunting.
And they also made it illegal for
18 to 20 year olds to own a
semi automatic shock on a rifle.
And they made it illegal for
F holders. So if you never get your
Lt,
like Papa,
he can't own a semi automatic shotgun anymore
or a semi automatic rifle. Yeah.
As the... To hear his opinion on Yeah.
Well, I would too because he... We know
which direction he leans. And so
anyway,
there's other people that'll say you're not even
allowed to eat meet.
Yeah. Well,
I think we know
who those people are. But...
So... Yeah, you can't You can't hunt small
game with a 10:22.
I can't imagine mass wildlife will have forced
that. Yeah.
That's a good question.
And, yes, that's true, Jeff, and I do
have plans to talk about that.
Bump stocks are
illegal and mass, but it doesn't say anything
about F t's. I don't believe I'd have
to read the language.
I know they banned
bump stocks and trigger cranks,
but I think F t's and
binary
is still
fine.
But anyway, Alright.
Let's get back to the task at hand.
I know we got some breaking news throughout
the country already,
but I would like to concentrate on, this,
abomination that was passed last Thursday.
Now,
something that
I
see
and maybe you guys will
agree with me. Maybe we could do a
little corporate exercise here
and
see
what you guys
think about this. I'm gonna share my screen.
We're gonna do this exercise together.
And
we'll see how it goes. But,
if you go to the text of bill
h 48 85,
if I can view the text at course
not. So this might be more difficult than
I expected. Yes. Of course, it is.
So let me share this tab instead.
Alright. So
let's make this a little bigger.
Let's control f this and call it a
Alright. Let's look up a salt. Assault is
mentioned 29 times in this hundred and 16
page document.
So there's the definition,
salt style style firearm,
all the things that
you want on a gun. This this 1
still cracks me up after or check this
out. A semi automatic
center fire rifle
with the capacity to accept the detachable magazine
that includes at least 2 of the following
features, a folding or tele
stock because we don't want it to be
comfortable length for you to shoot it accurately.
A thumb hole stock. We don't want you
to get a good grip on this thing
or a pistol grip don't want you to
be able to hold it steady or a
forward grip or a second hand grip. We
don't... You basically want you shooting this 1
hand And why do I know that? Because
they've banned
a
heat shield
or a shroud that in circles either all
or part of the barrel,
designed to shield the bearer hand from heat,
excluding a slide that en closes the barrel.
So obviously,
pistol slides are exempt, but nobody holds the
slide anyway when they shoot a pistol.
But they a shroud that en circles either
all are part of the barrel,
like a 4 on a rifle is now
an evil feature because it's gonna protect you
from being burned.
And we want you to get burned when
you shoot a gun because you're evil and
you shouldn't have guns,
you violent people.
And so
you can't have a vertical 4 grip. You
can't have a shroud,
and you can't have a thumb hole or
pistol grip We basically want these guns to
shoot themselves folks, and we don't want you
to have anything to do with it.
But
anyway, let's move on. That's the definition. And
then let's see
how this goes into effect.
There's a bunch of different dates. Right? We
got the 10/01/1993,
whatever the heck that date is,
09/13/1994,
which is the true pre band date.
And
then we got the 07:20
26 team date, the day that will live
in in
is now
an en date and law and cod so
that if you owned an k or a
post
ar
before that 20 16 date, they're gonna allow
you to keep it. Aren't they so nice?
Aren't they sweet? They're just... You know, they
don't want to deprive you of property.
They're just gonna let you keep what you
have.
And then the way I see it,
it
applies
Let's find it here.
Alright.
Subs section a shall not apply to an
assault style firearm lawful possessed within the commonwealth
on 08/01/2024
by an owner in possession of a license
to carry issued under section 01:31,
or a holder of a license to sell
under section 01:22,
provided that the assault style firearm shall be
registered in accordance with 01:21 b, a section
that doesn't exist yet and serial in accordance
with 01:21 c.
So the way I read this,
is any guns I have left in my
inventory after August first.
I can continue to sell
because
I am a holder of a license to
sell.
Makes sense? We all tracking together,
and
that the firearm
shall
be registered.
That doesn't mean it has been registered
but that it will be registered.
So it seems to me
As long as the gun is in my
inventory,
prior to August first, I'll be able to
continue to sell it.
Until my inventory gone.
And as long as it gets registered,
then I'll be able to continue to sell
it. So
There might be a little bit of a
silver lining to this in that. Right now,
I have not
sold any
pre heal guns.
Since we have been given
notification from
the attorney general's office in 20 16,
that we would be fined 10000 dollars and
prosecuted if we did.
So
it seems to me like any
pre heal
post ban gun
that was owned and registered,
can now be spot sold traded
and through an F nfl, which we haven't
been doing. I know other F nfl have,
but, you know, we aired own the side
of caution. So that's a good thing.
Let's
go back to
Arlo
sleeping over there, and,
m 70 nine's are still okay.
I guess the 34 millimeter ones. Why not?
Bring them on.
With I don't see any
out of all the laws in this bill,
what are the most confusing to me?
Training, the training side of things. I have
barely scratched the surface of that.
And
dang it Mike, you missed out, there was
some legendary stuff right there. So you'll have
to watch the archive.
Or as Rush used to say intercept the
brink truck on the way to the
museum of broadcast, excellence. I'm nowhere near that.
Anyway, the the archive will be easier
because I don't think you'll find the Brink
truck driving the show to the
Alright. So page 37, James said,
so
anyway, there's...
Like I said, hundred and 16 pages
of this bill
that...
Yeah.
So
there's a bunch of language about dates that
I still find confusing. I guess the most
confusing thing for me if I had to
make a
answer that question
would be
the
can I sell
buy and trade a post heal
ARKI
still don't think you can, but? Alright. Let's
wear the phones.
It sounds like space invaders
alright. You are first up on rapid fire.
Hey, Toby Calvin. How are you doing? Good,
Kelvin. Esther.
He says, hi S. I'm doing decent. So
the reason
I... So the reason why I'm calling is
obviously for this Bill. There's 2 things on
this bill that I find particularly interesting, but
I'll call you next week for the other.
But I wanna talk about the firearms
section. Now this... I find hilarious
for 2 different reasons under the firearms
section, they label a stun gun
And the stun guns have always cracked me
up just the name of it.
Like, the taser
is the thing that shoots the projectiles, but
the stun gun is the thing that, you
know, and you've put up the people and
it shocks them. The stun gun is on
there. And in that same paragraph,
it says, you know, this what defines the
firearm is something that can... Expel
a bullet or shot, and I think it's
hilarious that a stun gun
doesn't
sell anything. I mean, if anything, it expel
shocks. So why should that even be on
there, if they can't quote them unquote, expel
a bullet or a shot. You know what
I'm saying?
You raised a great
point, and there's more to that story than
this.
But, let's take it what you just said
about the stun gun.
I was actually brought in to...
And let's share the screen again so that
I can let everybody see what you're talking
about.
But I was brought in as an expert
witness
on a case
for somebody who was,
who was
charged with possession of a stun gun without
a license to carry
and
they were talking real jail time for this
lady. She had no prior criminal.
And remember, K ton went all the way
to the Supreme court regarding Stun guns because
mass had a complete ban
on them.
And that's when Justice Anton Sc, god rest
his soul,
wrote the majority opinion and told,
Massachusetts to get the head out of their,
you know what.
And,
basically, the the truth of the matter is
they...
So this was Massachusetts way of
allowing us to own stun guns,
but still strictly regulating them.
And it was to make them a firearm.
So now they're they're subject to
a
permit like the Lt
and a transfer like a gun as ridiculous
as all that sounds.
And it believe me, it is ridiculous. So
I'm actually gonna share a different
different
screen that's probably Well,
but anyway,
so the the bottom line is,
how's it going? But
I'm on the air,
if if we could can you give me
5 minutes? No. Yeah. Okay.
Yeah. Alright. So,
that's something point I'm gonna have to deal
with, so I might have esther their talk
for a little while.
But anyway,
the the truth of the matter is stun
gun. I was gonna testify in a in
a court
that
Stun gun is not a firearm by definition
period. And then the prosecutors
dropped the case. So the lady got off
didn't get any jail time and all that,
which was good.
But here's the real bad news about it,
Calvin. And that is
that
Here we go. Here it is. I just
found the definition.
Firearms yes. A stun gun pistol revolver rifle,
shotgun,
saw off shotgun on, large capacity firearm, assault
style firearm and machine gun. So they have
added all of these things into the definition
of firearm.
And here's where that's gonna blow up.
If it's now a firearm, guess what, It's
subject to the approved weapons roster.
Or the approved firearms Roster. So we're talking
remington 8 seventies.
Moss 5 hundreds,
every shotgun, every rifle, every
handgun made now has to be on the
approved weapons roster
and
stun guns from what I can see.
So that's the real
implication
of that new definition of firearm,
and it is bad, really, really bad.
So anyway,
thanks for the call, Calvin.
Sorry we can't
dive in a little deeper. I gotta take
a quick break.
And then we're gonna
we'll be back
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Hi.
My dad is talking to someone
but I don't know how to get to
the comments,
shoot.
But
This gun is bad. Very bad.
Oh, I found it.
Hi.
Tell us about your dog, my dog.
My dog,
he's
7, I think,
we got him when he was, like, 8
weeks,
and we hunt president with him.
He's such a good boy. He's
so chill. He's just
lays down
says how to customers.
Is there a permit to carry pepper strip
spray.
No. I don't think there is,
but don't own me to that.
But I don't know why there would be.
That's kinda tell.
He's
technically a Do str r
but
someone's calling my dad, but I'm not picking
up. He's technically a d strat, but
but
we just say that he's a German wired
haired pointer
this toby we eat junk food at home,
not really.
There are a lot of dumb things.
But, yeah,
he's technically...
Or he's cousins with the German wired hair
pointer.
My favorite gun to shoot is probably my
can
T99
millimeter.
And then I also like
rifle 20 twos.
Will gl frames beyond the.
That's a question for my dad. My it
is.
Oh, yeah.
This
Yeah. They better not that
slingshot are fun.
Probably my dad, but
I like...
I also
if I'm, like, ski shooting,
that I did at camp last year. I
went to a hunting camp. I went to
Massachusetts
conservation camp. I love
12 gauge.
Twenties are too weak.
I like 12 gauge. I like the kick.
I don't know how long my dad's gonna
be,
but
You should go to the shop now.
I first learned
I think I fought shot my first gun...
I don't even know before 10.
But he...
I knew like, the
3 main
rules of suit when I was, like, 6
and...
Yeah.
But
I found this sticker on my dad's
desk, but I put it on my phone.
It's a Trump 20 24
sticker.
Because
tell me Okay. Tell you good hunting story.
So my dad and I were in
North Carolina,
and we were there for, like, a week
on a hunting trip.
And
art
this
the
stand that we are in,
was like 30 feet off the ground, and
there was 1 ladder,
and we are climbing up. And then we
found
we saw
a 7 pointer eating the corn in North
Carolina. Right. And then we shot it at
the same exact time.
And our bullets
were, like, 2 inches away from each other,
and he
went plop right on the ground.
Yes.
Good story.
Yep. They told me to...
Tell story. Good hunting story. Alright.
I think you should've have told them the
9 year old story. Oh, yeah.
Chanel know.
So
shane got the pistol grip slingshot. I forgot
to hide Alright.
Alright. Thank you guys for your patience on
that.
I'm sure,
Esther
is
more entertaining than me in a lot of
ways. And
so
alright. Where were we? The phone lines are
open again. 05:08 4 04/04/2120.
I hope you enjoyed that. Look at... There's
more viewers now than when I was doing
it by myself. So we're with you so
anyway.
You like to shoot don't you know at
1 point you were thinking about being a
competitive shooter. I did a couple.
I I can't get this mic any closer
but... Oh, there's a call. Oh, another call.
Alright. Phone lines. Let's go to the phones.
Good afternoon.
You're on
rapid fire. How are you today?
I'm doing good Toby. This is Eric here.
Hey, Eric. How's everything?
Everything's good.
Just had 1 quick question. I've been going
over goals, summary of these new laws being
passed.
And
my biggest question was
I know we're allowed to do 4 transfers
up to a year still. Mh. But will
we still be able to transfer
Ar platforms. And when I'm looking at from
gold summary, it says,
08/01/2024,
assault style firearms in large capacity feeding device
and possess own offer for sale or otherwise
transfer in the commonwealth or import into the
commonwealth
that was not lawful possess in the state
prior to 08/02/2024.
So is that saying if it was legally
in the state,
that will still be able to private transfer
those platforms.
That's
my understanding of it.
The...
Let me bring it up again. I know
you're reading from it, but I I need
to have my
Alright. She's going coming with her mom and
her friend. By esther. Thanks for filling in.
We could make it a family show if
y'all all come in my wife's running.
So
let me just see if I can
get this definition up again.
Because from what it seems to say, as
long as the firearm was legally owned and
possessed in Massachusetts prior to 08/02/2024,
it could still be privately transit.
Right. And I believe that's on
line 15 31,
well, it starts at 15 29 that subs
h shall not apply to it salt I'm
unlawful possessed within the commonwealth.
So my question,
and this is why I said before
I took the first call when I was
saying what the most confusing part of this
bill is.
I don't know where this leaves
post Heal,
A ars, a aka, etcetera.
There's been a lot of guns that were
built
since 20 16 in the commonwealth,
and I just don't have a good answer
for anyone because I didn't have a good
answer for you after 20 16.
About whether or not you can lawful or
legally build a
lower into an Ar. That's why I chose
as a shop from a business decision not
to sell them, because I didn't want my
customers
to be in harm way,
pending,
you know, government
prosecution
for something that I sold them. So that's
why we made the business decision not to
sell lower. And I
maintain that it is a hundred percent legal
for me to sell Ar lowers because they're...
The state doesn't recognize them as a firearm.
So
the question becomes, can I legally build them
into a firearm
if I obtained them after 20 16?
I used to say, I don't know.
And
everybody else says, yeah. Of course, you can.
And now this loss seems to say that
if it's a
similar or
compatible weapon like an air ar fifth of
2 an en gun,
like the Ar U, the C allele, the
ak.
Then it had to have been owned and
possessed and registered prior to 20 16.
I know what you're saying here under the
definition
of a assault style weapon
pre August first.
So maybe those guns are all gonna be
grandfather in.
But
why do they give that 07/20/2016
date?
If,
you know, in my air on the side
of caution mentality is
that the 07:20 16 prior to that, if
you bought a Ar,
and it's in its post band
configuration, you're okay.
And then
post 20 16 till August first,
the assault style weapons that are basically
shrouded weapons
or weapons with thumb stocks or,
you know,
some other evil feature that that vertical 4
grip, for instance,
that those would be
now grandfather
grandfather in. Hopefully, because of the way they
designed a assault style firearm, it lumps everything
in, I just don't know what the point
of any date is prior to it August
first if
that's the case. You see what I mean?
Yeah. And also, I'm thinking too I'm, like,
say if I was doing a private transfer
before any of this nonsense happened on let's
just say a bush math exon 15.
I've always been told this. Okay. You could
transfer that over online through the gulf pole
portal. But
how am I supposed to know whether that
gun was here prior to 16,
2016
or not, you know. Here's what I'm gonna
say. The good news is all of this
the burden is on the government to prove.
It wasn't in prove that you're a felon
and waiting or felon knowing by doing it.
I don't think that's gonna happen. Yep. Think
that August first The date will stand, but
you never know. So...
Sounds good. Alright, man. Thanks for the call,
and
keep listening.
Alright. Absolutely. I appreciate the time. You guys
are great over. Have a great day. Alrighty.
Take care. Bye bye.
Hi.
Alright. You're next up on rapid fire. Thanks
for waiting. How how are you today?
Hi. How are you? Thanks for taking my
call. And the big question that going on
at some of the community,
is that
what about the assault
rifles
that are 3 2016.
So they're all set to have them, but
would would somebody
who has them be able to transfer them
privately
to to some other Lt ftc holder after
all this first sentence.
Yes. I think that not only can you
transfer them to another Lt holder up to
the 4 that you're allowed to do per
year?
I think that that gun will now be
able to be sold at an F nfl,
which prior to this bill, you couldn't
because
more heal threatened to
find me 10000 dollars and then sum me
and prosecute me. And
threaten me with my license to carry. So
that,
I think you'll be all set on.
I don't think you have to worry about
that.
So so now and it's assault rifle that
I buy at the epi today,
it's still gonna be grandfather, but I wouldn't
be able to transfer it? No. You can
how from back rule 2016.
You'll be able to transfer it.
But
anything you buy it in F nfl today,
I say, you can transfer it. You can
sell it back to an F nfl. You
can sell it out a state. You can
sell it to a buddy who's got an
lte year. Yeah. You're okay. So the 20016
a year isn't relevant for that specific question.
Right I... Yeah. The only thing I can
think of that that's relevant is if they
are gonna separate and good luck to the
government.
They're gonna separate pre 20 16
Ar and a ak
and pre
08/01/2024
shrouded weapons.
Meaning non
Ar and non ak,
but
still under the definition of assault style firearm,
it meets that definition. So, like,
Robinson Arm and X.
You know, it's not an Ar, not an
k, but
or some war or something... Divorce exactly.
So you'll be able to continue to own
that, possess it, sell it, trade it, sell
it at the gun store.
So
that...
Yeah. Yeah. But that would be very easy
for them to do because they would be
able to to look at the
action date of that rifle according to serial
number, and then say, okay. Well,
this was manufactured after
let's say,
you know, after July,
the 20 24,
and therefore, it is not
it it it it was manufactured pre august,
and then something else would be manufactured after.
You would think it would be very easy
for the government to do that, but you
gotta remember the government is
is
completely out to lunch and doesn't know
their butt from their elbow when it comes
to gun stuff. And I would say,
you're...
Again, you're probably
totally fine.
I just
you know, I personally wouldn't buy a
post yearly Ar right now hope with big
expectations that I could
continue to possess, sell it, etcetera. I would
get something else, which is what my message
has been since 20 16. So I'm not
changing my message. I hope I'm wrong. I
hope those all those guns get grandfather in.
I just don't know what the point of
all the all the all the other stuff
is. But thanks for the call bud.
And
yeah, It's
it's it's a lot of questions, but Go
ahead. You're next on rapid fire. How are
you today?
Oh, Tell. Don S. Don and S is
alive and well, and Kill
how are you... How are you? Can you
hear me, sir?
Yes. I can hear you perfectly. I have
a question. I have a 19 0383 bolt
action, and I have a Patterson feeding device.
Is that a band sent the automatic Massachusetts.
Probably.
Just joking with you. This is so crazy.
The the insanity. Oh, this state. Yes.
Just quickly. 2 points to my friend.
First off, the woman
with the stun gun,
believe it or not, she will have a
corey record for the rest of her life
because she interacted
with the Judicial system.
And if she wants to spend a few
thousand dollars, she can get it ex sponge.
But for many years, you weren't able to
ex sponge it.
But now you can,
But the point being is is that the
saf supreme judicial court ruled
that there's nothing in the constitution that prohibits
an eternal query record
but of cost... But, of course, done stones
jumping up and down saying, what there's nothing
in the constitution that lets you have it
there for all eternity.
So the big problem, But, yeah, No. The
corey record is not a nice thing to
have. Right. And second quick point, I did
send you an email of a
interstate commerce case from Pennsylvania from the late
7 hour late 1818
72.
What called... What Pennsylvania did was to tack
interstate commerce,
any product that moved through the state. They
put a tax on.
It went to the supreme court.
The Supreme card said, you cannot put a
tax on it. Mh. Because if you could
put a tax of a few cents,
you could bend completely.
So therefore,
You can't do that.
Well, wait a second, Toby.
Doesn't Massachusetts been the interstate commerce in certain
type of firearms?
Yes. They do. Yeah. Yeah. They do. Well,
wait a second this case that's over a
hundred years back says you can't do that.
There's a lot... Isn't there a lot of
stuff that says they can't do that, and
they do it anyway.
Well, well, yeah. I mean, it it all
depends on we'll pull it a party of
you with. But if you would read the
case, it's called the
case of the state freight
taxation,
And, again, this was Pennsylvania,
and they put a tax on any commodity
that moved through the state, even though it
wasn't in used the state, just passing through,
they wanted to collect a tax on it,
and that was found to be
unconstitutional.
Well, if you can't tax something moving through
the state,
you cannot ban it from coming into the
state. You have to get permission from Congress
to do that. Mh. Massachusetts doesn't done that
with the firearm.
So just those 2 quick points.
Great points, Don, I appreciate it. As always,
your insight is is great. And I You
know, 1 of these days, I... I'm gonna
need you to compile me a monster list,
the mother of all
defenses
against
what this state does routinely
against the second class citizens who choose to
be gun owners.
No. It... It's not a a large list,
but they're very, very powerful. Yeah. Again, you
always ask the question.
Where
general general court, where do you get the
authority to do what you're doing?
And if they cannot point it out to
you,
They cannot do it. Mh. That unless James
Madison is rolling. I mean, he wrote the
constitution. Yeah. So... Yeah.
Alright. Well, thanks for the call, Dawn. I'm
gonna... Alright, Toby. Thank you for what you're
doing too. Alrighty. Take care.
Alright. You're next on rapid fire. Thanks for
calling.
Hello? Hello? Can you hear me?
Hello. Hello. Hello?
Alright. Call if you can hear me.
Alright. Phones are alive and well today. I
already got 4 voice mails.
So
I apologize if I'm missing your call. If
someone's on the line, I only have 1
line. So, you know, I see that you're
calling, but I can't just
dump the call. So anyway,
Greg says I received a notification for mass
firearms with a snapshot
from the wall offices. This is
of Jason Guy that will pause all sales
of rifles and shotgun guns by firearms steele
after August first. I'm glad you said that.
We're gonna talk about that in a second.
But let's go to the calls.
Good afternoon, and welcome to Rapid fire. How
are you?
Did I miss again?
I did. How am I missing all these
calls?
Tech
callback if you can hear me. I apologize.
I must have dumped it. There we go.
On.
Alright. Let's try now.
Do you hear me now?
Okay. Hold on.
I see what happened.
Alright. Yeah. Thanks for a good fight. My
pleasure. Been a long of time since I've
seen to come to computer yourself.
I just got a quick question for. I
there's a lot of confusion about
lowest coming in after August first us. Am
I understanding and you can no longer get
A 15 and guacamole lower. Is that correct?
I don't know if it'll affect lock lowers,
but
it depends on the shop for the Ar
15. You know, I beat a dead horse
about this for the last 2 or 3
days As far as our shops concerned. But
there may be other shops that continue to
sell them. I don't know. But now that
the state Yeah. Recognizes them as a firearm,
and they are an en weapon, you're playing
with fire if you decide to sell them.
Yeah. Yep. And I thought Gl was the
same way because, you know, the frame considered
to Firearm on now as well as because
the serial. But It's on the, Yeah. Approved
weapons roster. So...
You know okay. I don't know. It's a
good question. Back. And I wish I... Yeah.
Had a good answer.
Yeah.
I hear you, both, I guess so the
only time gonna tell on that 1. Right?
Yep. Absolutely. Well, like I said, you know,
Thank you very much for everything that you
do and hopefully,
you know, the future look to break for
us. Yeah.
That's 1 thing I'm confident of is the
future so. Yeah. Thanks for the call. Alrighty.
Take care bud. Thanks. Alright. Be good. Thanks.
Alright. So,
let's see if
I'm getting a poll question here from the
end of the call. So I apologize. I
just missed
another another call, but let's go to some
of the voice mails.
Let's see if I can play this.
Name's Cody,
from the kate, and
I was wondering in this new bill,
how things affect active law enforcement?
Where I was not able to find a
clear cut answer, and I'm sure there isn't
1, but I was wondering if you could
shed on that. At some point? Or if
you know anything, that that'd be great.
Thanks. Right. Yeah. So as far as active,
Law enforcement is concerned,
I
believe
there is an Law enforcement,
Law enforcement
carve out
on all of this,
I do believe
that's how Goal interpreted it.
And
but I... I've heard some conflict about that.
I've heard that, like, state police
and other Le agencies are definitely carved out,
but,
like,
individual municipal police officers might hop.
I have no idea
of
where that... How that all shakes out. Let
me see if
goal
has anything about that.
There's a new frequently asked questions page on
gun owners actually leads website,
which is
Gonna
share this.
Let's see.
It is
it is... This is by categories. Is anything
charged regarding
ammunition.
And
did you already shoot? Yeah. We have to
go Oh, okay. You're. Rush bye. Right. Bye
everyone. Nice talking to you.
Alright.
Bye.
There are... Let's see here gl
pre bands.
Let's see if I do
law enforcement.
If there's
Alright.
Will there be buy backs or
qualifications?
Can I carry large capacity University
police are not covered under the law enforcement
exemption and banned?
Only on property you own or you have
the expressed
permission of the property owner, large capacity magazines
being transported must be stored on loaded and
secured in a lock container.
Alright. So
I don't know what the law enforcement
exemptions are.
Let's see if I can find that in
the
text of the bill.
Yeah. There's there's nothing that says exemptions
in the in the bill itself.
And I'm not sure if goals,
initial summary. Let's see if I share this
tab
instead.
If there's a category about law enforcement.
There's so much to this that I haven't
read guys, by the way, I've been focused
on what's keeping me in business and putting
me out of business, that type of thing.
So you can see all the new stuff
for retailers.
It broaden the scope of background checks for
prospective
employees.
It it appears to roll Guns smith, firearm
ammunition retail sales into 1 license, which would
be nice because right now, I carry 4
licenses.
Appears to allow retail applicant to use their
Lt
information for application.
Retailer must,
license cannot act as a license to carry,
must complete online training. Great. I already need
to keep up to date with online training
for my building license. Now I get to
do it for my gun
store
license.
This is interesting. Requires retailers to con
and report, expired suspended
revoked Lt or F
and presented to them. So if someone hands
me a expired license to carry, I'm supposed
to revoke it.
Con it and
and,
you know,
report that they were trying to buy Ammo
or gun. Give me a break. I'm not
gonna do your job for you, State.
Alright.
Welcome to Rapid fire.
How are you today?
Hello? Hi. You're on the air.
Hey, Jade I'm from new bathroom. Hey, Jade.
So
You had a call earlier about, the post
20 16 band. Mh.
So those volt
rat or even muffled for that?
The post 20 16?
Yeah. I don't know.
Yeah. It's confused man. I'm trying to find
nancy answer. Yeah.
You me, and everyone else.
Yeah.
You know, again, I I beat a dead
horse on this for the last 2 or
3 days.
I personally
steered clear of them since 20 16.
We call them post heal guns. A lot
of people bought them, rick registered them, moved
into the state, whatever.
And bought and sold traded
even dealers, you know, and
I always said, I... This this weird limbo.
I don't know where you are with
legal possession of that. I'm sure you're probably
gonna be fine based on the language of
this bill, but I don't know. I I
am not about to even start giving legal
advice from, especially on something like this that
I didn't really have the warm fuzzy about
before.
I certainly don't have it.
More or less now. So maybe we'll get
Chasing Guy on or something someone like that,
But to talk about that. But and I
know that's everyone's question, but The good news
is I don't think they're gonna go door
to door con gun. So thanks for the
call, Jaden.
Alright. Thank you for your time. Yep.
Alright.
And you're next on rapid fire. How are
you today?
Hey, I'm doing great. Thanks for taking my
call, and thanks for everything you're doing. I
actually had
a
follow a call or, I guess, question to
the last caller,
you know, for for someone who
may possess,
a post, Hayley,
Ar.
And let's say that those do become
band or you know, you're not allowed to
possess them, like, what the heck do you
do with it. Like, if you're a law
abiding center saying you don't wanna have it,
you you wanna cover your ass as much
as you can. Like, how what do you
do with it?
Sell it to someone you don't like? I
don't know.
I mean, Right...
Yeah. I don't know.
Again, I think you're okay.
But call a lawyer to be sure. If
the lawyer tells you to sell it out
of state or
take it apart, and sell you lower out
of state and build it on a pre
band lower or something like that. I... I'm...
I mean,
I think you can hear the ex aspiration
of my voice when I say.
I know what everyone wants me to say
regarding the post heal
Ar, but I can't because I've never...
You know, if if I felt it was
a good idea, I would have
sold them
to begin with. Of course. But
So I guess, I'm you said fell it
to someone out of state if that... Like,
let's say that that is you had a,
let's say, a a family member in maine
or new Hampshire.
Is that something you could do essentially transfer
it to
a resident in 1 of those states, and
it's, like, now off your hands. Like, I
don't really understand the... Yeah. You would have
to ship it up to a gun store
because you can't do
You might be able to do
transfers across state lines
for long guns.
You definitely can't for handgun guns. But if
you had a family member up in Maine,
New Hampshire Vermont, you could drive up there
and technically do, like, a bill of sale
and sell it to them.
So that would be... That seems like it
it'd be fine. Just double check with local
laws there, but
you can't go the other way. Like, someone
can't drive into Massachusetts with a long gun
and sell it to you unfortunately. But
without going through an F nfl worst case
scenario. You just ship it up to a
gun store,
and they can do the transfer. So
that's definitely
gonna put you in safe territory.
And maybe you know, they'll even be willing
to just hold it for you.
While all this law is being lit. So...
Yep.
Alright. Alright. Thank you very much. And, again,
thank you for everything you do and thank
you to the goal too. I know a
lot of this stuff we're referencing here through
their hard work. So I wanna thank everybody
who's
trying to at least provide some clarity over
this mess. Yeah. Yep. I appreciate it.
Alright, man. Take care and have a good.
Thank you so much.
Alright. Welcome to rapid fire to next up.
Let me just get you on the air
here. Alright. You next up on rapid fire.
How are you?
Hey, Joey. How good. How are you? Good.
So my thought on this is is
the host 2016
heal
lowers,
wind fire rifles are
pretty much expressly allowed under current law.
Couldn't you...
I know you can't give legal advice, but
it's just kind of a thought experiment. Couldn't
you build it as a 22 rim fire,
wait until 8 1 when it becomes in
the default weapon due to the feature desk.
And then once it's already a sole weapon,
you can change the caliber.
It's a good question. I mean,
The
interesting thing is if it's a purpose built
22,
then
I can sell it.
And
if some way, shape or form, you can
convert that 22 into 556I
don't think you're breaking the law because you
lawful and legally
bought it as a 22.
Purpose built from the factory
as at 22.
There's very few guns that you can actually
do that with.
Like,
the As sa, the avid ability arm.
Woo.
Ability arms, As sa places falling apart.
And
then
the
Franklin Armor f 17 is another 1.
That you could do that with, in theory.
And so the point I'm trying to make
is, I don't think you'd have to do
anything other
than
just put it on. Right? And just make
sure that it's in a
post band configuration. You wouldn't want your adjustable
stock and your flash hide and your bay
analog log and everything on that if that's
the case. So again, that's
not me given legal advice as much as
that's kind of the way I see it.
And that's different than buying a lower and
building it out specifically for a
quote unquote, a assault weapon, you know, under
the 20 16
Heal
enforcement notice. So hopefully, that makes sense, but
that's
that's kind of the way I read it.
So, yeah, I don't think you'd be
there's nothing that says in the law that
you can't convert it to shoot something else.
That
I don't know. But if you can or
can't, I don't know. And I would just
say do it now rather than later.
This... Because that 8 1 date, I don't
know how they're gonna
enforce that, but we'll see.
Alright. Thanks for your answer. Appreciate. Yeah. Clear
is mud. Right?
I understand. You know, hey, much, you know,
you're not lawyer. Can't kill your legal advice
especially over the phone, but, you know, you
know more than a lot of buzz, you
know, and you're talk to some of these
guys over work goal. So I just appreciate
some your input. So thank you. Yeah.
Anytime. Thanks, man. Thanks for calling.
Alright. 05:08 4 04/04/2120
is the number. If you wanna call me
and ask about a post Heal 20 16
ar. That's the number. I'm probably gonna
be a little bit shorter.
In my answers if you call and ask
that question again, but, believe me, I get
it. I know
and frankly, I know what I'd be doing
if I didn't on a gun store.
So,
you know, take that for what it's worth.
But,
anyway,
Let's see.
Yeah. I think you could probably turn a
post ban
20 16
post 20 16 heal into a fixed Mac
and be totally compliant. But
Yeah. You know what?
That's... I appreciate that sentiment, but
believe me, everybody needs to survive.
We're all gonna be in a world of
hurt in this state. So I'm not asking
anyone to be
you know, that loyal.
Support your local gun stores is what my
message has always been.
And I'm happy
happy.
Happy there are such loyal customers of Cape
gun works. I I can't thank you enough.
Alright.
Yep. Welcome to Rapid fire. How are you?
I'm well I'm not sure.
I have a question.
Go for it. I I think III
have
and a, I think I bought it in
14 or 15.
When they lifted the bend,
what that mean for me.
If you bought it 07/20/2016
or earlier,
then
I think the law is pretty clear. You're
good to go. Just make sure it's in
its post
post band
configuration. In other words,
no quote unquote evil features. It's gonna have
a fixed stock, no threaded muzzle, no flash
hide or no fold c things.
No grenade launchers, etcetera, etcetera. So
if... Right. Yeah. As long as it's been
ne,
you should be good to go if it's
before the 20 16 date.
And
I I know was before 20 16. Alright.
Now I got another question. Sure. My son
has a mini 14.
Yep.
My my son has a mini 14, and
I think he bought it after.
I I he he...
I get God. I can't remember when bought
it, but I don't... I think it was
after 2016.
That's okay because it's not 1 of the
en guns
from the 94 assault upgrade band. So that
would... That's what I was trying to say
earlier, that now that would become, like the
shrouded weapon or the salt style firearm
as of 8 1.
Because that was lawful and legal to possess
up until the 8 1 effective date. So
because that's... So, you know, that's
he's fine too is all I'm trying to
say the long. The short answer to the
long. So story.
So if
if that was lawful and able to possess
then
what's all of this other stuff about Aes
before August first?
They were also lawful able to prevent.
That's where the the rift is. We don't
know if they were lawful
lawful possessed
from 07:20
16
to till now. I honestly don't know.
And I'm not a lawyer, so I'm not
gonna speculate on that. If it was. Was
that retired to 07/20/2016.
The government says you were a felon, but
we are for bearing our prosecution of you
because you didn't know you were committing a
felony when you bought it. So now coded
into law, that 07:20 16 date,
is
in there.
And any gun prior to that, you're good.
Any gun after that is a big question
mark if it's an RAKUC
and 1 of the en guns in the
band. If it's just a shrouded weapon,
You're good. You're fine. Many 14,
Robinson,
divorce, all those other guns that we've been
selling since 20 16.
You're good. So
Okay. Can you can you still buy many
14 after August. I think you'll be able
to buy the ranch right full, which is
the 1 without a pistol grip, no threaded
muzzle.
And,
yeah, So I I don't see why not.
Okay. Okay. I I actually like that of
them though. Yeah yeah.
I got another question. I... Which this mean
for what's this means for semi automatic systems.
Semi automatic instance inside. I I have AA6
hour 03:20,
that I probably bought in 2018.
Yep. You're fine. So
so now what about them selling? I I
have another son that has this license to
carry? But he doesn't have
a fire. Mh.
Is he gonna be able to buy 1
half to August first, or was it gonna
have to be a, like a.
No. He can buy a semi automatic pistol
after August first.
Okay. Right. Sounds good. The only pistol affected
by this Yeah. And thanks for the call.
The only pistols affected by this ban
are
ones with threaded
barrels.
So the... I saw a question way back
in the chat that
said, what about a pistol with a pinned
and welded break?
I would say you're probably fine? Because it
says flash suppressor.
It it's really funny. The language in the
salt weapon in the pan is any pistol
of a threaded muzzle
that's capable of accepting a flash suppressor
makes it an assault weapon.
It's like,
how many people are putting flash suppressor on
their pistols.
I tell you the people that make these
laws are
utterly
moron.
But
I digress.
So
long story short,
threaded
barrels are, I, apparently gonna be a no
go zone for...
You should have seen it when New York
not new york Colorado,
had very similar language in their assault weapons
ban.
Suppressor are legal in Colorado.
They were trying to ban any pistol that
had a threaded barrel.
It's like,
okay.
What am I supposed to attach my suppressor
to my muzzle with?
Bubble gum,
you know,
it doesn't make any sense.
So
that's how it is. The people
dang. Sorry. I keep forgetting to turn that
down after each call.
Thank you, Shane for the for the
You guys are awesome. I appreciate that. I
will read this in 1 sec when you
get to the call.
How's it going your next on rapid fire?
Oh,
sorry Start over because I I didn't have
you on the right thing. So go ahead.
Hi. Yeah. My name Sam,
from the concord area mass.
I was wondering if you had heard anything
That's the
I don't know us kind of pulling of
Virginia
and
gathering at the state house to kind of
put some actual
feet on the ground pressure.
Not
this week, like, trying to make an impact
before Morris assigns it into...
We were trying to get their last Thursday
when they voted on this, but things just
moved too quickly by the time.
You know, we figured out they were gonna
vote. It was too late, and
we were like, what do we do? You
know? I I couldn't even figure it out.
So
there is gonna be some exciting announcements coming
up pretty soon. So stay tuned.
I... We have a plan, so I just
can't burp it yet. Maybe I can before
the end of the call, but,
before the end of the show.
But
as of right now, I can't.
So,
and I'm just checking my messages to see
if
that's changed since I've been on the year.
And it doesn't look like it has. So...
But the good news is
there's some stuff being worked on behind the
scenes. So...
And
it would certainly involve a rally at the
at the
state house if you ask me. So,
you'll have to stay tuned for that. I
wish I could give you some better info
than I have right now.
Yeah. No. I appreciate it.
But and on top of that,
have you heard anything as to, like, different
departments, police wise,
putting pause
on
renewal or do anything
Yes. That's a great question.
And petrol
Pd has already stopped taking renewal
which is ridiculous. So...
Because this hasn't even signed in the law
yet, and,
it's absolutely ridiculous that
they they are are doing that. But,
that's the only 1 I've heard of. So
everyone else just keep applying or renewing or
doing your thing. There's no reason to stop.
So...
Yeah. I appreciate I appreciate the call bud,
and keep listening.
And you appreciate appreciate work doing Yeah. Anytime.
Alright. We'll do. Alright. God bless. Take care.
Alright. So, Shane,
can 07F
nfl
an out of state rifle, transfer and out
of state rifle and make it mass compliant.
Yes. We've been doing it for
10 years.
Such as pinning the stock, muzzle or removing
features on, like an X cr.
Absolutely. You can,
the o sevens can. Type ones cannot. I
know a lot of them do,
but technically, under the letter of the law
they're not supposed to.
So it's an excellent question.
And that's how we've been able to sell
these
non Ar alternatives. So
Yeah. That's that's basically the way that all
works. So...
Yeah.
So we're gonna continue to do it. And
by the way,
I just bought every
single
sig mc that I could get my hands
on.
Throughout the country.
And,
I think we got 65
or 70,
and we
are bringing them in. So if you want
1,
call us and put in a special order
and put a deposit down and you will
get 1. It's gonna take us a while
to pin them all up.
But again, because it's in my inventory prior
to that date,
you'll be able to get it. So
just
give us some time to pin it all
up and do the o 7 work necessary.
So we'll get that done though.
Alright.
Great questions, by the way, guys.
And
Danny says next time nerf guns are be
banned.
Alright. I'm gonna go to a quick break.
We got so much more to talk about
05:08 4 04/04/2120
is the number
and we'll go to the back to the
phones
after the break. So don't go away. We'll
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Alright. Welcome back to Rapid fire. Thanks for
tuning in guys, and
your questions have been great. I wish I
could even keep up with the chat. It's
been on fire. But we got a call
her right now, so let's go to the
phones. How are you today?
Good. I'm a older gun owner or in
Massachusetts.
Lived here in state for, you know, about
30 years.
And
I own a bunch of pre ban
Sk and stuff that I can't find the
A 10 for.
I'm looking in states list. And,
you know, with all the problems that they
had the database in the past.
What do you think I should do? I
can't register them now
can I? Because then it runs in this
whole thing of how can I prove I
had them
before 16?
Well, I think if you had a Ar
that was registered... That you bought it in
F nfl prior to 20 16,
you don't have to worry about it.
It's been right. I bought them all you
know, at at.
Yeah. Well, they had a lot of problems
with it.
Things records to be unlocked that the firearms
records bureau of. Yeah. That was, like, early
nineties, though. That was long time ago. It
was like 30 plus years ago. Yeah. I
would say if you bought it anytime since
the early nineties or mid nineties till 20
16, you're probably fine. I wouldn't worry about
it. Yeah.
Alright. Thank you for laying my fears.
Yeah. Yeah Annoyed because you... You need to
be here. Yep. Yep. I get it.
And, again, Alright. Thanks for the call.
Again, it it
the way I see it folks is
You really think they're gonna stack up and
try.
I doubt it.
Alright. Let's go back to the phones.
Welcome to Rapid fire.
Sorry for the wait, but you're on next.
How are you?
I'm doing great. Thanks.
Can you hear me?
Yes. I'm sorry I can.
So I just moved to Massachusetts, and I've
been wondering if I was able to get
an egyptian mod after
The third.
Yeah. I I think true pre bands anything
prior to
94
are
are gonna be able to be bought sold
and traded
continuing like they are. I don't I don't
see any effect on pre bands
after the after the state
Okay.
By being that I just got my, like,
I just passed the class for the license
to carry. Do you think that they're gonna
make me redo or
redo anything at, like,
class wise?
No.
No. I don't. Do you have you applied
for your license yet?
Yes, sir. I turned it in the but
Friday. Okay. You're good to go.
There's no way they can make you redo
it. The law hasn't even been signed by
governor Heal number 1.
Number 2, the curriculum, the new curriculum not
written. Number 3, the mass state police has
to write it. And they're pissed. And they're
like, what this got dumped on our, you
know, laps. So, yeah. No. You're good to
go. You'll get in under the old old
licensing standard.
Okay. Cool. Because I just see a lot
of people freaking out and... Yeah. There's a
lot of lots freak out about, but I
don't think that's 1 of them. So you're
good to go.
Alrighty, sir. Thank you. My pleasure. Thank you.
Bye bye.
Sorry, I keep missing calls while,
I'm on the phone with people, but just
call back and we'll we'll make it happen.
What a mess here in the birthplace of
gun freedom? Yes. I agree.
Can you do mass compliant work to the
Lc carb?
They currently don't have a state version yet.
We can prior to the date, but, you
know, after that date, I would say no.
Because I don't see how you do that
gun without I a pistol grip because
the mag inserts in the grip. So
there you have that. Alright.
Thanks for the call You're next up on
rapid fire. How are you?
Good.
Yeah. What's your question?
Yes. Sir. I'm I'm actually calling out of
Everett Massachusetts.
Alright. And
I was I was curious. I I heard
somebody mentioned something about 20 twos. So I
I don't know if maybe I misunderstood, but
our 22
rifles got just Right. They're okay. Correct?
That's my understanding of it because the bill
Defines a salty weapons
as
center fire. So
if it's a rim fire
unbeknownst to me like it's exempt. Yeah.
Okay. My other question is
with the
registering of the firearms on the state websites,
I guess, they're talking about. You have to
register with your serial number, make and model
guns... I mean, I have 3 handgun guns
in 1 rifle.
Nothing's semi automatic. Nothing's just solved.
But my question is, like, do you think
that gonna have an issue with that as
far as, like, everybody jumping on there to
try and, you know, register everything that be
a lot of people. Let me ask you
a question did you buy those guns at
a gun store?
Yes. I bought
I bought 2 of them at
4 seasons. I bought 1 of them up
at next level firearms and sale new because
a friend of mine's buddy owns that place.
And then I... The other handgun that I
own is the Smith and Wesson,
44 magnum revolver that was transferred to me
from a friend of mine. We did a
transfer. I, he gave him a gun. He
gave me that gun.
So
They weren't everything legit. Yeah. So that... Those
guns are registered. You don't have to do
anything else?
Oh, so what are they talking about with
the registered stuff? I don't understand. Those are
for... Maybe I'm missing something. Yeah. You're missing
the fact that they're trying to freak everybody
out and they're Yeah. A bunch of forums.
Doing good job
Yeah. Right. Right. My buddy sent me a
picture today of the line outside of 4
seasons. Like, people lined up out the doorway.
It was crazy Yeah. Now People are running
over there. So the only thing is I
don't know if they're gonna come out with
some new registration portal for a assault weapons
or assault style firearms, whatever are the hell
they're calling them now
and say, you have to register these prior
to the such and such date. Like, Connecticut
did when they came out with their
unconstitutional,
modern sporting broadband.
So there might be some new portal that
they make everybody
register their quote unquote, assault weapons with. So
that way, they're...
They've captured a certain bunch of serial numbers
and
can use it for a later date when
they come round them up and b.
Alright. And b,
now they'll know if there's a gun found
in the state without that, they can charge
that person with failure to register a gun.
But any gun sold at a at a
gun dealer the last 30 yeah 40 years
has been registered. So you don't have registered.
Yep. Yeah. That's that's what I thought. I...
Because when I first heard this, I said,
wait, minute, my everything's in the system already.
What do they need me to do it
again for. Right? I was like... Yeah This
is ridiculous. And tight. By said to my
buddies. Is would they take the the criminals
that have guns are gonna jump right and
register all this stuff. They're gonna find them
like, hey. Like, it's not gonna happen.
Yeah. So I I don't I don't know
what she's it's crazy. It's absolutely crazy. I
agree hundred percent, but 22 as long as
the time rim fire should be fine, and
that sort of stuff.
Yes. 20 twos. Any guns you already own.
Yeah. Definitely don't work up into a fever
pitch on any of that. So
New New New. Yep. Because Ammo gonna be...
Ammo is still okay to buy? Like, we
can buy Ammo just like we normally would.
Okay. That's... Good. Because I gotta find some
556.
Can't find it. But can't find it. So
Oh, we got a pallet of it sitting
here ready to go. So if you need...
Where's your store? I know you're in mask,
but where's your store? We're on beautiful Cape
card.
Right Nice. So... Yeah. Come on down see.
Beautiful. Yeah. My my family had a home...
Has a home in Saga. Ask you. I
know I know know Hi. Yeah. I know,
oh, 1 more question for you. Okay. My
son's gonna turn 18 next year, and he
was curious about an f by card. Yeah.
Can he get an F at 18 and
can he purchase
a rifle for hunting service street? Yes. Yes
and yes. Okay. You can get an f
at 15, and you can buy either a.
You can buy a a shotgun a rifle
as long as it's not semi automatic.
At 18. Right. Yeah. Hopefully, that'll be challenged.
Alright, man. Thanks for the call. I appreciate
you. Thank you. Alright. Have a good 1.
Bye bye. Bye bye. And again, I missed
another call. So sorry. Call back if you
want,
want me to...
Yeah. Just call if you
Sorry about that. It's like, dialing for dollars
here.
Sig regulator, do they need compliance work a
little bit? Not much. They need the muzzle
brake pinned and welded. That's it.
Easy.
So we'll do it. The ones we sell
are already done. So Good to go.
Welcome to Rapid fire.
How are you today?
I'm very well. How are you? Very good.
Thanks.
As crazy as like... I have a quick
question.
Go for it.
So, I'm, I'm, I apologize if this has
been asked before, and I I probably already
had. I just started
streaming it.
So I bought a Ar lower in, like,
in 20 20. But the Ar lower itself,
I think is before 20 16, it was,
like, the new old stock.
And I was wondering,
just in terms of advice,
I... I'm I'm planning on, like, dolby something
and trying to register really quick, but
if you were me, you were my situation,
I wanna, you know, put them together quick
and get it registered. Would you do that
or no?
So you're saying it's a lower you bought
post 20 16, but it was a pre
sick 20 16 lower or a pre 94
lower. What's there is a difference.
Pre 16. Okay.
I would definitely build that
and
that's a tough 1. This is a really...
This
is the most confusing question I get all
the time, but this even makes it more
confusing because
because it was a
pre 20 16 lower
technically, you, that you'd think you could build
it out. I've had other lawyers tell me
you can't
because it's not considered a firearm based on
the state law.
Now that the state's gonna consider at a
firearm,
and you build it out, is it now
a post 20 16
lower.
And so Yeah. I don't know. It's kind
of that gray area that I just don't
know about, and it's
redundant. I don't know because I already don't
know the post 20 16 gun
situation
But
as I've told everyone else,
I think you'll be okay if you build
it and register it prior to August first,
but that's not legal advice that's just my
hunch,
and
I don't know
how much
a aversion to
risk you have, but
if you're extremely risk ave verse, sell that
thing to someone you don't like. That's all
I can say.
Yeah.
Alright. Good luck with it. Alright. Thanks so
much for the call. Appreciate it. Alright.
Alright. You next up on rapid fire. How
are you today?
Good. How are you? Good.
Alright.
So I got a question,
Get Kim just all master stores close the
doors
due to lack of sales and file for
immediate,
injunction. It's a it's a immediate harm to
your business.
That's
a legal strategy that would be an extremely
painful 1 because I don't know if would
get the injunction.
And if we don't get the injunction,
you know,
people... This is a main source of income
for almost 30 people that work for me,
and not to mention my family and my
partner... My business partners family.
We're we're all kinda of
you know, we can't just go home and
and
say, courts come save the day. We're gonna
try to figure out a way to survive
this this... Weather the storm. It's gonna get
better,
but we need to figure out a way
to weather the storm. That's really what it
comes down to.
Alright. Alright. And. Thank you. I just wanted
to share. Bye my my daughter. It's a
great question. Thank you. Thanks for the call.
Bye.
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you?
Good.
Good. Thanks.
About months where I used to make dan
weston arms.
And I got a 03:57
with interchangeable barrels that
grew in and
just wondering where that falls under
under a new thing.
No no issue. If you own the gun,
prior to, you know, this bill going into
effect you're good to go. This is only
effect furniture sales of certain cons.
Okay. Yeah. Super far. Alright. Thank you. Good
question. Thanks. Take care.
Good afternoon. You're next on rapid fire.
Hello, Hello?
Lost her. Alright. Call if you can hear
me.
Alright. So
That's a good question, Andrew. Do I think
I had 6 holy nike. 556 will get
more expensive after the signing.
Possibly.
But probably not, it most not really affected.
So I don't know.
Alright.
How are you doing today? Welcome to rapid
fire?
Good.
Hold on 1 sec. Let me get you
on the...
There you go. Now we can hear you?
Alright. Hey, joey. How are you? Good. Thanks.
It's unfortunate what we're going through these days,
but I did... I had a question for
for the group in regards to, like, transfers.
So I had that my question was,
my wife and I we both have our
license. But if something were to happen to
me since mortgages that I own are registered
under me.
Would it they be able to transfer to
her if I if I to pass?
Yes.
There's
Well,
here's here's... I'm glad this question came up.
There's something very important,
and I would I would say, sorry. I
just lost some of my light here.
If tech support is watching we need some
battery.
We need battery for the light, But anyway,
in order to make it a seamless transfer
put the guns in your will
or trust, whichever you have
and mh,
name them. So each gun serial number,
and it's your wishes that they go to
your wife. And if you both die, it's
your wishes that they go to whoever else
is next in line. So very important,
That way, it'll transfer
seamlessly. There be no Fa 10. There be
known. There might be some new registration portal
down the road. But as of right now,
that's the way I'd recommend you do it.
Okay. Thank you. Yeah. My pleasure. Thanks for
the call.
Alright. Thanks for the call today. Your next
step on rapid fire.
Hey, Tony. How you doing? Very good. Thanks.
Disappointing news here.
Not to kinda
beat a dead horse here. Interestingly enough,
a day before this had happened.
I was out and about, and I purchased
a lower,
than they I intended on building.
My understanding is have that registered prior to
the first. Is that correct?
I I don't know. I'm you know, I
I think that's your best bet or sell
it out of state, Yeah sell it to
someone you don't like, But that's that's my...
That's all I can recommend.
I... Because I don't know honestly.
And I can't tell you what you wanna
hear because that was... Yeah. No. No. Well,
that's something I definitely appreciate about you is,
you know, you're on top of it.
1 last thing.
Anything that is a legitimate
3 band handgun wise?
Is is this gonna
affect that any differently now? No. You're fine.
Okay. Yep. Awesome. Alright, man. Thank you for
everything you do. Thank you. Thank you.
Alright. Thanks for the call. Your next step
on Rapid fire. How are you?
Good. How are you? Good. Thanks.
I was calling
I'm curious,
am I right in the assumption
that
non residents
visiting the state
will not be allowed to use a semi
automatic shotgun for a duck hunting.
Yes.
Is math
is math wildlife like aware of this? Like,
are they
Like, is it the data they're gonna lose
so much revenue or, like, do they just
not care? They don't care. They're saying
If you're under 18, you can't even hunt
here if you're not a non resident. If
you're not a resident. So you won't be
able to obtain a hunting license
in Massachusetts to hunt here if you're under
18.
Yeah.
In insanity. It just
be more and more I read about it.
Is, like, I don't understand. Like, I felt...
I feel like, kinda of blindsided over this.
Like, was there
any
announcements that this was being, like, proposed?
Yeah. I mean, we've been talking about it
for a year that there has been a
lot of talk about it. There's been public
hearings. There was the whole listening
tour or non listening tour. There was
the first iteration by h 42
20, whatever the heck it was
and then the first bill that passed,
house
H4139,
and then the Senate bill 21 84, which
to remove and replaced. But then there was
stuff that was done in conference committee that
was never talked about, and it would came
out,
and they voted it in
less than 24 hours later. So,
anyway, there's a lot of that,
thinner me ignorant because of the only thing
I knew about was 44 20, and I
thought, like... It was kinda just like a
a ghost in the wind, like, it was
here then it was gone. I saw a
little bit more about it, and I saw
the yard signs, and then
I didn't even hear anything about this and
for me, I yeah, I feel like the
majority of the people
who
have, like, strong opinions on this are the
1 who build their guns. Their like,
shooters like, rain shooters all the time. I
didn't realize how much is affected
myself doesn't have a duck owner and people
who visit the state
just in general
quite incredible. Like really is. Yeah. And what,
along those lines, and thanks for the call.
If you're a duck hunter and you're... You
have an F, you can't hunt dock anymore
with that shotgun if it's semi auto. So
Thanks for the call, bud.
Gotta move on. Alright. You're next on Rapid
fire. How are you today?
Hey. How you doing? Good day. Name is
Michael. Hey, Michael. Good. I just had a
quick question. So my friend owns 2 pre,
our post band 20 16 guns he bought
before the 20 sixth mark He ban.
Can he still transfer 1 of those to
me? Yeah. After... Before August first? Yep.
And I... Heard you he can after
August first too.
Really? Even the post... If they're in post
ban can take penn and everything. Yeah. If
they're post,
pre heal, I don't see any issue. The
gray area that nobody knows anything about is
post heal
Ar ak, U z's, Sc,
but the en guns
after 20 16.
Shrouded weapons. I don't see an issue with,
you know, the Robinson Armament, the X e,
the C z brands, the
you know, Rug mini 14 or Pc carb
beans and all that crap. Even if they're
gonna be banned going forward,
they will be able to be bought sold
traded possessed. Blah. Unless I'm reading it wrong,
and I've been talking to a lot of
people that are smarter than me. So I
think we got this right, but
you know, if you're really worried about it,
I'd reach out to an attorney, but I'm
sure their phone lines are blown up
as well. So... I just had 1 more
question until. So you can use pre band
magazine
in that gun. Correct? Or it have to
be those 10 round metal ones? No. You
can't go. You can use pre band mag
and any gun that it'll fit in.
Under a new law, you can only use
the pre band mag
at the range.
You can't use them in your gun when
you carry or in the house when you
stage for self defense. Take that for when
it's worth.
That would be something I will not be
complying with because,
frankly,
if I own them and it's lawful to
own them, then they can go pound sand
as to whether or not I'm gonna load
them and use them in my home for
lawful defense.
If some hood breaks in my house to
cause Mayhem on my family.
I'm not worried about whether my mag has
10 rounds in it or 30 rounds.
I'm gonna defend my house. So
and, you know, let it be
known that
the amount of rounds in my gun are
a much secondary worry of mine compared to
being assaulted in the safety and privacy in
my own house.
So hopefully, that makes sense.
Alright. Guys. Yeah. And When you put that
on f and they even tell you press
high or high capacity or large capacity, but
that still can... You still put large capacity
you're right even though the gun was bought
with a turnaround bag. I do not. I
put a
it is not a high capacity gun. That's
the way I do it.
Okay. I don't know
high capacity bag.
Yeah.
Okay. I, you know what? I don't give
them that difference I think that they are
stretching the interpretation of what a high large
capacity weapon is, and they
if it ships from the manufacturer with a
10 round mag,
it's it's a low capacity weapon in my
opinion, and it should be mark marked as
such on the
A 10. I know they say if it's
capable of accepting. Well shoot that's every gun
on earth
is capable of accepting any magazine fed gun.
If somebody comes up with a hundred round
magazine, does that make my Rug Sr 22,
a large capacity magazine? Weapon? No. So they
can go stuff it.
And Yeah. That's how we've been dealing with
it for 10 years. So hopefully that helps.
Alright. Great. Thank you very much. I appreciate
it. My pleasure. Thanks, Bud take care. Bye.
05:08 4 04/04/2120.
You guys wanna talk on the phone today.
So
the handgun that are being banned
are any handgun on the proof weapons roster
with a threaded barrel.
So like the f 05:09 tactical, the FFX,
the Vp 9 tactical,
there's some Smith and Wesson stuff.
There's the new Sa or Sa
So, which has a threaded barrel, which I
think is a great gun.
So I guess we could put a little
tack weld in the bottom of the thread
protector.
If
we wanna
continue to sell those, but
or
or pin and weld a
muzzle brake on it, but then you won't
be able to totally dis assembly your gun,
so I wouldn't recommend that.
Good question though.
Thanks for calling your next up on Rapid
fire.
Hi. I'm ready now. Yep.
So
I'm a new Hampshire resident with an out
of state,
you know, Lt.
It sounds like I can still carry going
through the state or is it just transporting
to matches and ranges?
If you are a... You have a non
resident mass license?
Yeah. Yeah. You're gonna be able to continue
to carry in the state. From what I
can tell.
I don't think there's any change. I think
what you're talking about carrying through the state
is more
for the people who are non licensed.
But Okay.
They're...
I'm... I could be
mistaken on that. I haven't looked that deeply
in it.
But, yeah, like, I'm typing in non resident
into the entire hunt hundred and 16 page
bill, and there's nothing even popping up. So
I don't know
if goal has anything on their summary, but,
I would say, there might be a good
question for
Alright. Here we go. Goal summary. Is there
anything new concerning non residents.
They are no longer exempt from possessing handgun
or semi automatic firearms for
competitions are hunting. So if you're a non
resident, and you don't have an Lt you're
in trouble. Bans youth, non resident hunting,
bans the possession of semi automatic firearms for
hunting.
All firearms entering the state for purposes other
than traveling through must be registered
prior to them by entering the state. I
don't even know how you would register a
gun in this state if you're in your
Hampshire resident. So you're gonna have to stay
tuned on the details of that 1. I'm
not sure how that all shakes out. But,
sounds like if it's registered in the state,
you'll be able to carry it, But I,
I don't know that to be true.
Clear. Thank you. Yeah. My pleasure. Thanks for
the call.
Yep.
Alright.
05:08
4 04/04/2120.
That's a that's a great question. I wish
I had a good answer to, and you
know, how do you register the gun in
mass if you're out of state resident?
Are they gonna have a portal where, like,
I'm I might come to mass with my
out of state non resident license,
and I gotta register what gun I'm gonna
carry in that state.
That's kinda what it sounds like, but
that's insane.
Thanks for the call. You're next up on
Rapid fire. How are you?
Hi, good. How are you today?
Great. Thanks.
Again, thank you for everything that you've done.
Just a quick question. You may have already
recovered it.
I missed it.
Purchases made, but the firearm Not received
prior to August first, will those still be
lawful purchases or if they are not in
hand by August first, they would not be.
I think as long as it's in the
dealer
book
by August first or second, I'm not even
clear about what the date is
if it's the first or second. But
from what it seems like to me
is as long as it's in the dealer
inventory prior to that date, you should be
good to go.
Back when it was more at Heal,
Edi in 20 16,
we called the state and said, hey.
There's people who've had things on lay away
or special order for 6 months.
And we've taken their money, we've ordered the
gun
I can't cancel it. It's coming from the
manufacturer.
What do I do? And they're like, just
do the transfer. I'm like, okay. Cool. I
don't know if that's the same case with
this 1 because it says that it had
to have been repo possessed
prior to August first or second. Whatever the
heck the date is?
So
I don't know if it's special order,
and it doesn't come to the dealer prior
to the date, you might be out of
lock.
And my other question would be
if by chance,
the governor does not sign the bill
prior up before August first us is this
thing on hold? Or is it gonna go
in place
irrespective? I think if
the...
If I understand it correctly, if the state
legislature in session,
it can become law without the governor's signature.
And, of course, she could veto it, which
I highly doubt she will.
So
that's
my understanding is that
it's
it could become law
if they are in informal session,
but she doesn't sign it. So it it...
I think either way it gets in as
law.
So
that's the unfortunate side of things. So
anyway, we'll we'll wait. Thank very much for
wisdom. Appreciate. Thanks for the call.
Alright. 05:08 4 04/04/2120.
And here are.
Thanks for the call. Good afternoon. You're on
with Toby O'leary Rapid fire.
Hey. How's it going? Thanks for everything. You
do.
Quick question.
If you have a semi auto in your
possession that's not in your name,
Was given to me and this person is
deceased.
What do you do then?
I would probably just go on the gun
transaction portal and register it,
that's still an option. You know, if there's
4 different options on the gun transaction portal
right now.
Registration is 1 of them. Just... I'd probably
just register it to yourself.
Okay. Right through the port. Don't even have
to go in any anywhere Perfect. Thank you.
And I really appreciate your calm demeanor and
everything you're doing for us. Thanks, man. I
appreciate you. Take care.
05:08 4 04/04/2120.
Let me see if I can play a
couple voice mails because a lot of people
have called and I've missed.
I got 17 voice mails. So
let's see if there's...
I never mind. We'll go to the phones.
How's it going today?
Thanks for the call,
and let me make sure you're connected, And
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Which I think I did. Yeah. Here we
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Alright. Welcome to Rapid Fire. How are you
today?
Can you hear me? Thanks am my? Yeah.
There you go.
Yep.
Go for it. Yep. So
I just moved here from out of state.
My sympathy. And I'm wondering with this new
registration stuff, what that's gonna mean for me
So there's
a 60 day period
existing, and it doesn't seem to change.
I think it actually does. I think it
goes to 45 days. You have 45 days
to renew or to apply for a license
to carry.
But I could be wrong on that. Maybe
it's
maybe it is still 60 days. But either
way, just,
you know, take the class, apply a for
your license to carry if you haven't already.
So then as far as the things being
grandfather, not grandfather, but they're in
and they're exempt for 60 days. But if
it takes longer than that to the license
to be issued,
what happens in that interim, where I'm past
the deadline to have these
but
they're already here. Right?
Yeah. As long as you register the... I
mean, as long as you apply within that
45 or 90 days, whatever it is, you're
good to go,
because they're gonna take
1 to 3 months to issue the license
anyway. But as long as you
apply, you're good to go.
Makes sense.
Okay. And then 1 last question... Sure. If
I have some that I leave behind out
of state. Right? So then I wouldn't have
to register those. They're not in the states.
Right. I have them stored somewhere else. And
then later I bring them in if they
are compliant.
Right? Yeah. Can I register those later as
or would it have to be when they're
acquired?
I think you'd be able to register them
if you bring them into the state and...
Let me just say this as of current
state law, the guns that you took into
the state with you when you moved here,
if they were in your possession the entire
time, like, they were in your car and
you drove here and you're now a mass
resident.
You don't even have to register those guns.
However,
what it sounds like to me based on
this information or this legislation, is they're gonna
want those guns to be registered once the
new...
Registration portal is is up and running. So...
But so that's a big change, But
I don't know what that looks like if
I'm not a lawyer, so I don't know
if they'd tell you to register them now
preemptively or
just wait till they get the new registration
portal enacted or or whatever. So
yeah, That's that's my best piece of advice
on that. So...
Well, I figured and I can't really register
them now and until I have license though.
Right. Definitely won't be able to... Yeah. So
that's a good point. But but in that
interim, they're still fine. They're not gonna come
after. Correct. As long as you register... I
mean, as long as you
apply for the license.
Yep. Okay. Alright. Good. Thank you. Thanks for
the call.
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Can you hear me?
Yes. Yeah. Hello? Yeah. Go for it. You're
up.
Hi how are you doing, Tao. My name
is John. I used to live
in Massachusetts. I live in new hampshire now.
I left about 7 years ago. Did you
call every Robin in our face to No
No. On it. No. I I'm not. I...
But I I used to come my wife
family at a place in High, and I
remember when you guys had the small shop,
and I was always Danny you guys even
when you opened up the biggest store. Every
time I was down there, I always stop
by. I even use the range and great
Class a place. But my question was,
in 20 16, I left actually right when
that happened. Mh, I was gone. I moved
to Da New hampshire.
My question is, when a little that happened
in 20 16, and she rein
the Lush in pass was, you know, she
rein reiterated the assault weapons ban. My question
is, where is that
in
the quote process. It seems like it just
died
And I feel like these gun places, these
gun ads that advocates always ask us for
money, always ask, you know, us to do
we
how come they have not made any strides
in
getting these things shot down?
Alright. That's a great question. And
I want to take a couple minutes to
address this.
And we're quickly running out of time. So
what I what I'm gonna do is go
a little long.
We are... The shop is open till 7.
I was hoping to jump back out on
the counter and help help the masses out
there. But,
I will take a little extra time to
explain this.
You gotta understand something as Mark Smith from
the 4 boxes diner
informed me the other day.
We are Jews living in Germany in 19
32.
And shame. When it comes to the court
here in Massachusetts and the first circuit court
of appeals, which, by the way, New Hampshire
is a part of.
So. So
what that means is we are the most
hostile
court system in the country, including the ninth
circuit or the seventh circuit.
Yeah. The 9 and then notoriously bad. Right.
So we make them look like
like, the fifth or the eighth circuit compared
to us. Wow. Right?
Real. So that's how bad it is. So
you can take money,
and you can throw it at the
wall
and hope it sticks.
And chances are you're wasting good money.
In a bad
situation. There are times where that makes a
lot of sense.
Now, I I think 1 of the
big areas of this bill that that makes
a lot of sense in is the 18
to 20 year old band in the F
band because it creates a different class of
citizen
and guess what? The fifth circuit in the
eighth circuit court of appeals have already found
and ruled that to be
unconstitutional. That all 18 to 20 year olds
have the exact same rights as we the
people. So
Massachusetts is trying to say they are a
second class of citizen
Even though they can vote, even though they
can enlist in the military,
but they're saying you can't own a semi
automatic rifle.
All all that being said,
if we
pursue litigation in the mass courts for that
and the district court lose,
go to the first circuit court of appeals
and lose.
Now there's a court... A circuit court split.
We have the eighth and the fifth who
have found it to be on con institutional,
and we have the Massachusetts first saying it
is constitutional. So that's something the Supreme Court
would take notice of. So that's a That's
1 area that I think it makes a
lot of sense to pursue
litigation. That's... Yeah. There's a couple other things
like that, but taken up the
assault weapons band or the Mac capacity band
is a waste of time
because we already have a na case
that's lost in District court. It's gonna be
appealed to the first circuit court. And there's
already probably a dozen
assault weapons band cases way down the road.
So... Yep. Way down the road. Yeah. So
they're gonna... I think that the Supreme court
is ever gonna actually take 1 of those
cases and specifically say
what is
what is good? What is bad. Do you
think the lever
eventually, I think they're gonna have to
eventually take
whatever you wanna call it whether it's gonna
a follow band an Team dan or something.
And they gotta take some case to... Right.
You know, all those other cases went in
our table,
Mcdonald,
Hell,
the b bulls all went in off favor.
So I feel like if they did get
in front of them and it did go
in off favor, you know, what what could
they say after that? But, you know, they
every time the Supreme court gives us a
go, Massachusetts. It seems to drop the hammer
on their end Mh. And really
you know, pass another lot, and they love
it because it just seems like gets dragged
out and they, you know, how many businesses
are gonna go on. You know, there's a
there's a guy down on the street from
me where I work. I work for the
city of Everett. He he
he has it's a gym and he does.
He's a great guy. He does Lt classes
for extra money, and he has 20, 30
people in their lack. And now
because of the live,
that guy's Now, that guy can't make any
money. Yeah. No No It's great point. It's
all done. That guy's that guy's job now
is it is Plus, he owns a Gym,
and he does it out of the gym.
Right. Great guy, T p and and M,
great guy. Yep. He he does the Lt
otc class right out of the gym. You're
pushing that guy right out of business. He
doesn't have the Wi
training right day. You can't do that. Yeah.
There's a lot of lot of questions in
this bill going forward, and
we're gonna see how it all plays out.
Thanks for the call man. I gotta get
this other call.
Thanks for the call today.
Go ahead. You're next on rapid fire.
Hello? Hello? How are you? Oh, I got
through. Okay. Sorry.
Hi, Toby. Thanks for you too.
I just got a few questions, and I'll
get some him real quick.
So a pre
That was bought,
post 2016.
No problem
Not a problem. Already. But here's the the
catch flow that. It was modified to accept
the detachable mag.
Hold straight to jail straight to jail. No.
You're fine. Don't worry it. Yeah. You're fine
Okay.
Alright. So next question, I was 1 that
asked about the Rug
Army 45. Now I had asked the guy
in
American farms in North. Said he couldn't import
it because it didn't have the the the
compliant version, but you said you could.
Yeah. Long the 1 F nfl, he can't
modify guns for sale and mass.
We can. Okay. So you stand though. Alright.
Yep... I'll definitely reach out to then. So
I want that 1.
Alright. F and n 05:09 capsules, any any
other ones with the Printed barrel. So I
already own 1. So how does that? That's
okay. It's a free band date. So your
grandfather in. So
that's the thing. You gotta remember, like, you
know, it's only affecting the future. Okay? It's
not affecting the past. Think of it that
way.
The gray areas is. Okay. Yeah. That's the
most really interior goods. Yeah.
Alright. Alright. And then
here's the interesting. When I I have pretty
printers for my work. So, but I also
won't guns. So yeah. I think you're first
that.
Okay. Yeah. As long as the primary sole
reason for that wasn't marketed for
building guns, you're fine.
Okay. Yeah. I was watching 1 of the
other guys that you're on the 2 on
another channel, and they were talking about the
Psyche valve
for the
the initial instance licensing. Is that gonna apply
for the renewal as well?
No. If you're renew... If you're already a
current licensed owner, you're you're not gonna be
subject to all the others.
Yep. Least my.
Not yet. Great credit point of. So...
Yeah. Alright. Hey. Thank you. I appreciate it.
Yep. My pleasure. Thanks for the call.
Alright.
It's getting late, guys. I'm gonna try to
tell you I'm gonna drop the hammer. Oh
shoot. We got 1 more call. Alright. Last
caller.
Alright. You're gonna be the last caller of
the night. Thanks the car.
Go ahead Hey. Are you guys more of
a
like, gun related show or politics also.
We we try to stick to guns.
We are toy with the idea of doing
a podcast
another, like, a second 1 where we'll dive
into politics and religion and complete the trifecta
of
guns, politics and religion. The 3 things you
don't talk about it. Thanksgiving.
And... But that's for another date. We're trying
to keep this 1 pretty well centered on.
Gun talk pretty much.
Alright. No problem. I don't really have any
anything to say about the gun that has
set a political.
Comment, but... Well, go ahead. Why forward to...
Why not? Go ahead. I think I just
think that we tend to
relax and we have a republican president it
looks like, every time we have a democrat
president, you know, all the gun
all the rights groups are up in arms,
their own alert and they're, you know, ready
to go to war. Seems that when we
have a republican, they kinda just sit back
and kind of afraid. You know, the the
bump stock ban happened under Trump.
The famous has take the guns for due
process a second. I just think
we gotta be a little bit more concerned
about the Republican side as well. Not just
Democrats. So wondering
was against
Yeah. Perfect King? Yeah. You're right. The, worst
gun control has always happened under
Republican presidents, and I I agree with you
a hundred percent.
And
the the 1 thing I will say
is
even more than just
being
vigilant about
the
laws that could possibly be passed by Republicans
is the complacency
that this industry gets every time
a
person like Donald Trump or even George W
Bush,
get in power or get into the presidency.
It's it like everyone breeds a sigh of
relief and guess who suffers the most.
Begun shops, the distributor the the manufacturers because
they go lot of business. So... Yeah. I'll,
shoot.
Yeah. They go out of business. So it's
we saw the largest and oldest distributors
and 2 of the largest
manufacturers go out of business. In what we
call in the industry that Trump's slump. So
from 20 16 to 20 20, was some
of the worst of firearms sales in the
history of the industry and a lot of
people paid a deer price. So I'm hopeful
that should
Donald Trump get elected in
November,
that people will remember that and try to
sustain the industry at at least a a
living wage type of
level until then. But you're right a hundred
percent right. We have to be vigilant about
not falling asleep at the wheel.
And
we're
we need to... We need to keep our
finger on the pulse of what's going on.
But thanks for the call bud. Great point.
Absolutely. Thank you, brother. Alright. Take care. Let
Michelle. Bye bye.
Alright. So we're done with calls.
But 1 thing I wanna add to this,
and then
I'm gonna check my phone to see if,
anything
has happened as far as
stop at Arlo law.
No. I haven't got any
Alright. I haven't got to go ahead to
to reveal what I wanted to reveal today,
but we'll do it. We'll go live when
I hear
hear from the powers that day.
So what I do wanna say though is
somebody earlier on in the comments said that
mass fire school is posting something that Jason
Guy said about how we will no longer
be able to sell
rifles and shotgun after
August first. I don't think that's the date.
I actually think it's 90 days.
Or a hundred and 80 days. Again, the
dates are all...
That the dates are all
whacked. I don't know
what the date is actually. But at some
point,
the approved weapons roster kicks in, and
makes it so that we can't sell shotgun
and rifles
because they are now subject to the approved
weapons roster based on the fact that the
legislature,
in all of its wisdom,
deem
shotgun and rifles now
as
firearms.
So it used to be that a firearm
was a handgun
or a
short barrel rifle or short barrel shotgun.
And therefore,
it was subject to the approved firearms roster.
And it had to go through all the
testing that was set up for pistols.
And
now
the the roster
I don't know if they're gonna exempt
rifles and shotgun from that or what, but
they didn't do it in the bill. So
now They've created this situation where
a,
shops either have to break the loft. They're
gonna continue to sell Remington 8 70 pumps.
B,
the government is gonna have to tell
gun shops, like we made a mistake.
Go ahead and sell them, we're not gonna
prosecute you,
and
see
the manufacturers are gonna have to test all
the guns they wanna sell in Massachusetts, and
we're gonna have to comply with some new
roster for
rifles and shotgun.
So it could be that once this bill
gets put into a effect
that
we only can sell
some of the handgun on the approved weapons
roster.
I don't see any other way around it.
Because
they added
fire shotgun and rifles to the firearm definition.
It's utter
madness.
Maybe they did it intentionally. Maybe they were
smarter than I thought, and they really
gave us the, you know what.
But,
yeah,
that remains to be seen.
The
approved weapons roster
for
what they are saying and, like, the a
salty firearms roster, hasn't even been made yet.
The 1 that
is made is if your Google
approved,
firearms or roster,
in
it'll pop up,
And then I'll just drop the link in
the chat.
I screwed that up.
Alright. Here we go.
Here's the approved weapons roster. And you'll notice
there's, like, 4 different roster. These the Olympic
style. There's the Target 1 and the approve
rifles,
handgun roster, and then there's the
large capacity firearms. Alright.
Our loan needs to go out, I guess.
So we're gonna have to take him.
But
I will plan on doing another live stream
and I apologize
for...
For, trying to
cut this short, but we're open for another
hour in the shop, and I better go
make myself useful,
but please remember to
to
support your local gun store
and
help them out. If you need something,
chances are we might have it inbound.
But also support the local ones.
Everybody needs
needs is gonna need help. So
god bless you guys.
Stay in stay tuned. We'll we'll do more
on this, and
Yeah.
Till next time. Keep the faith. Keep your
head up high. We will win this. I
promise.
Take.
Thank take