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Direct from Cape Gun works in H.

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You're listening to rapid fire radio with your

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host, Toby Lea,

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I'm Toby Lea from Cake Gun works.

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I'm passionate about all things second amendment.

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While I love to shoot.

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Going hot.

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There is so much more to guns than

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just pulling the trigger.

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A free in armed society is a responsible

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and self reliant 1.

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Join us to talk all things guns,

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freedom and self defense.

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It isn't just about being armed.

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It's about being responsibly armed.

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So load and make ready

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This is rapid fire.

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Welcome everybody. We are

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live

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Welcome to rapid fire

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episode number 181

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on

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the year of our Lord, 07/17/2004.

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And

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friends

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this was a show I wish I never

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had to do,

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but

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here we are.

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The tyrant

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have

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done their thing,

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and we are now

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sitting here,

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staring down the barrel of government

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regulation that is so

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unconstitutional. That is so

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constitutional prohibited

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from ever happening,

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and it brings us to a point in

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history where we must make a decision.

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Do we

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actually

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comply with this

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unconstitutional law, or do we as

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Madison V Mar

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stated that

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All

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unconstitutional laws are rep

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and should be ignored.

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The question is

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What is your comfort level of putting yourself

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in that position? Your family in that position?

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Your loved ones in that position Your bank

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accounts in that position?

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Because the federal government and the state governments

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alike have all proven

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that they don't care about your right to

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keep in their arms. They don't care about

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due process. They don't care about

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your constitutional protected and en rights. And by

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the way, they are protected from who they're

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protected from government

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from creating

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infringement on them. That's what they are protected

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from.

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they ignore all that,

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after 3 months of deli liberation behind closed

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doors.

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The

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senate and the house have emerged with a

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reconciliation bill

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that

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they are gonna introduce. It's already dropped,

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and it is gonna be

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voted on tomorrow

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at the state House.

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what that means to us as gun owners

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is it significantly affects the future, of gun

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ownership in Massachusetts. It further layers on on

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unconstitutional restrictions on guns that are in common

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and ordinary use which the heller decision set

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is the standard for whether a gun is

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a protected arm. If it's in common and

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ordinary use.

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dangerous

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unusual and therefore

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banned by

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Congress. So therefore, they are in open defiance

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of many supreme court decisions, including, but not

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limited to

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Mar Mar reversed Madison.

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19 43,

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Pennsylvania,

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Murdoch, v, Pennsylvania. We have

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Cape tan. We have B. We have Heller.

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We have Mcdonald.

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the truth of the matter is they don't

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care.

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They have proven once again. They are willing

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to violate and sacrifice their own integrity on

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the altar

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of tyranny, and they are willing to do

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that which they are not

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permitted to do by the constitution and that

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is infringe upon rights that were acknowledged by

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our founders and by our create

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by our founding fathers,

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are ina rights endowed by our creator,

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and they pre

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the constitution. They pre

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the bill of rights.

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And they have been acknowledged and written down

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for poster sake to guard against

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the natural inclination of humanity to rise

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into a tyra

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position

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take away

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the God given rights that are in every

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single person.

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I would argue that In doing so, they

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sear their own conscience with a hot iron,

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they lied to their constituents. They lied

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to the

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to the entire

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population when they held their hand high on

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an inauguration day and and they lied to

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their creator,

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when they said

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that they will uphold the constitution against all

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enemies both foreign and domestic.

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So help me God.

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they

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sold their soul

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in the process,

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by literally,

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exchanging

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their

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constitutional

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limitations

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tyra

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act of

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themselves

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the ability to grant

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rights and take them away,

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which they lack the constitutional authority to do.

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All the while, they sear... They've they solve

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their conscience, which is screaming at them

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with

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the the sa of

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no right is absolute. The lie

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that the media and the government in its

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position of power has

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deliberately and will and want

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beat us over the heads with collectively for

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decades,

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and say, you know, there's limits to your

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rights because you can't shout fire in a

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crowded building,

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and use that as they're

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as their

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dilution

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of your god given rights and and try

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to

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give

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themselves the power to now manipulate and pull

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the strings

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and to grant and to

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restrict,

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even though the plain text of the second

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amendment

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says

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words that they can never get away from,

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shall not be

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infringe.

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here we are.

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July

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seventeenth, the day before my birthday. What a

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birthday present I'm gonna get tomorrow when they

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vote this

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unconstitutional alba

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effect. Right?

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It's a hundred and 11 page document.

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The original house version was a hundred and

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40 pages. The senate version was a hundred

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and 22.

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And now they've paired it down

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to a palatable

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regulation

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into a hundred and 11 pages,

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and their subtlety does not go unnoticed.

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have put some things in there that we

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would ordinarily probably be fine with. But because

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it's buried into a bill that is loa

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sum. It is d.

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unconstitutional, and I argue it is treason.

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that you will come alongside them and say,

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well, it's got some good stuff in there.

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we're gonna rip the

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constitution of shreds before your eyes.

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that's where we stand today.

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Ironically, it seems to be a theme.

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07/20/2016,

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2 days after my birthday while, I was

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celebrating my birthday was... Some family by playing

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golf.

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attorney general's

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regulation enforcement letter dropped,

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on gun stores everywhere in Massachusetts

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where they threatened

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to find you with a 10000 dollar fine

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if you dared

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oppose

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the Mo He Edi where she acted is

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all 3 branches as... Of government.

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The enforcement branch

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which she already was in the... As the

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attorney general,

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to enforce what?

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New laws that she herself created.

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And guess what?

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The legislature applauded her.

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then

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she became the judicial branch of government by

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old law.

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that was signed into

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into law in 19 98,

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which was a exact duplicate or copy of

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the 19 94 assault weapons band. Now, I

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wanna refresh everyone's memory.

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When we lived

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collectively

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throughout the country under the 94 assault weapons

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ban.

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Did any

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attorney general. That's 50 states for those of

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you sitting in the back.

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50

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state attorney generals did any of them

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come up with the language

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that more Hill came up with in 20

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Did the attorney general, the Us attorney's office

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or the attorney general of the United States

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interpret the 94 assault weapons ban the same

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way that Mori heal did.

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10 years, we lived under this for the

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letter of the law for 10 solid years.

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And there were 50 state attorney generals that

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didn't see it the way more He did.

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the Us attorney's office and attorney general's office

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that didn't see it the way more a

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heal sa.

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And we have been living in this state,

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again, under the threat of government violence and

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deprivation of hard earned funds

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since 19,

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I'm sorry, since 20 16.

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When she acted as all 3 branches of

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government and gave forth her Edi. Well, guess

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what?

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The conference committee thought it was a good

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idea. To emerge

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from their

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closed door meetings

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for 3 months with cod language, taking more

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heel opinion

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and putting it into law.

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So they are acknowledging that, hey, yeah. This

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wasn't law before, but it is now

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We're gonna make sure it is.

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So guess what? The copies and duplicates, the

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interchange ability, the similarity of design,

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All of this becomes cod language into mass

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general laws should, the legislature vote for this

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tomorrow.

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05:08

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4 04/04/2120

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is the number if you guys are

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interested in calling and talking about this today.

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I'm happy to take some calls for the

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first hour. We're gonna have a panel in

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the second hour

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with,

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attorney Jason Gui, and we also have Mike

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Harris joining us from gun owners action, League.

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I I also invited a couple other

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people,

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who,

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I don't know if they'll be able to

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make it. I didn't reach out to them

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ahead of time. I just sent them the

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link and said, join us if you can.

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But this is what we... Where we are

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on,

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07/17/2024.

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And,

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we're gonna take a lot of time today

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to go through this. I got the hundred

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and 11 page bill. I also have the

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summary of what it does.

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So we'll we'll break this down,

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kinda

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line by line.

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So

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Number 1, let's go to the comments real

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quick. Phone lines are open. I believe,

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looks like they are.

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And...

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Yeah. They're open if you wanna call in.

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But

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more importantly, it's to really get through this

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through this bill.

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Thank you very much, Billy. I appreciate that.

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That's very nice to of you.

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Steve, good to see you again, Bud, Long

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time, no see. Come on down.

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Sorry. I'm just

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reading As comment.

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It affects us in California and the whole

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United States and the rest will eventually follow.

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I agree with this sentiment 100 percent, mike,

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we did the math, rough math the other

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day,

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that about a hundred and 14000...

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I'm sorry, a hundred and 14000000

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people are affected by either an assault weapons

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ban or a magnet capacity ban or both.

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10 states, including and including district of Columbia,

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have assault weapons bands,

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and then you got another 3 or 4

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states that are

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mag capacity bands, and those are...

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You think, oh, 10:11

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states. Okay? Well, guess what? That makes up

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almost a third of the country.

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So

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those

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states are

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significant

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populations. The largest

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states in the in the

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country, basically, California, New York

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are

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affected by mad capacity bands and arms bands.

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So

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you know, I know the natural sentiment is

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to say, just move to a free state.

383
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Well, you think a hundred and 14000000

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people can just up uproot and move.

385
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And then the gunners are gonna be happy.

386
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Now, come on. Don't kid yourself.

387
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It is coming soon to a city near

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you. We must defeat it here. We must

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defeat it now. This is the time to

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fight, and this is the time to hold

391
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our,

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politicians accountable.

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And guess what's coming in November,

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the exact opportunity to do that.

395
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So here I am on the air with

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you guys. I'm not calling the the state

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house switch board asking to speak to,

398
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but I did text my state senator, and

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I texted

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and have been texting my state rep who

401
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is

402
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securely in our corner on this. He's confident

403
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that all Republicans will stay together on this

404
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bill tomorrow on up down vote.

405
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The senate,

406
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we have 4 Republican senators in the state

407
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and 1,

408
00:16:02,605 --> 00:16:04,925
we're already jumped ship and made this a

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bipartisan Bill And he happens to be

410
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the house minority

411
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leader.

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So,

413
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you know, we can't even keep 4 state

414
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senators together. They

415
00:16:18,709 --> 00:16:20,950
are, you know, already split.

416
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So,

417
00:16:23,589 --> 00:16:23,830
anyway,

418
00:16:28,477 --> 00:16:30,862
Sorry. My son is texting me. And

419
00:16:32,214 --> 00:16:32,373
anyway,

420
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long and short of it is,

421
00:16:38,275 --> 00:16:39,253
we need to

422
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make our voices known, send emails, text,

423
00:16:43,617 --> 00:16:45,053
if you have their tech... If you have

424
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their cell number.

425
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Troll them on social media, which we've been

426
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doing and I've been doing it for months.

427
00:16:49,519 --> 00:16:51,186
And I know it seems like it's not

428
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doing anything. But the truth of the matter

429
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is,

430
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I believe it is.

431
00:16:57,158 --> 00:16:58,032
I believe it has.

432
00:16:58,588 --> 00:17:00,733
It's certainly making them think about it, but,

433
00:17:02,814 --> 00:17:03,373
Let's see.

434
00:17:04,331 --> 00:17:05,788
Yeah. G webb. That'll be

435
00:17:06,166 --> 00:17:08,082
29 plus 30. How's that?

436
00:17:09,599 --> 00:17:11,768
I did my fingerprints with local police. 3

437
00:17:11,768 --> 00:17:13,594
months ago, still waiting to get my license.

438
00:17:14,150 --> 00:17:16,214
Yeah. And, you know, the whole licensing scheme

439
00:17:16,214 --> 00:17:17,167
is another whole thing.

440
00:17:18,199 --> 00:17:20,764
I'm working on something along that line, but

441
00:17:20,820 --> 00:17:23,555
3 Anyway, to make a lie acceptable also

442
00:17:23,555 --> 00:17:25,875
includes sma of truth, good point, Billy.

443
00:17:26,835 --> 00:17:29,154
Rights come from our creator and certainly, our

444
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absolute and the bill of rights only recognizes

445
00:17:31,167 --> 00:17:33,558
these and does not grant them. That's true.

446
00:17:34,434 --> 00:17:36,665
I've had this argument though with fellow gun

447
00:17:36,665 --> 00:17:38,896
owners that they don't believe our rights are

448
00:17:38,896 --> 00:17:41,544
granted by our creator because they wanna have

449
00:17:41,544 --> 00:17:42,742
this agnostic approach.

450
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And,

451
00:17:44,341 --> 00:17:46,498
you know, that's a very shallow way of

452
00:17:46,498 --> 00:17:48,976
looking at it. I've I always maintain that,

453
00:17:49,375 --> 00:17:49,535
okay.

454
00:17:50,190 --> 00:17:51,789
Then where is right and wrong, where does

455
00:17:51,789 --> 00:17:52,509
morality come from.

456
00:17:53,150 --> 00:17:55,630
If not by our creator then who, just

457
00:17:55,630 --> 00:17:58,130
by man making it up. Well, we know

458
00:17:59,481 --> 00:18:01,395
the book of proverbs says the way of

459
00:18:01,395 --> 00:18:02,831
a man is right in his own eyes.

460
00:18:04,107 --> 00:18:04,905
That's not good,

461
00:18:05,782 --> 00:18:07,856
because you could have people like,

462
00:18:09,069 --> 00:18:11,705
you know, osama Bin Laden making the laws

463
00:18:11,705 --> 00:18:14,922
for you. And he says it's good. And

464
00:18:15,141 --> 00:18:16,100
you say it's not.

465
00:18:16,832 --> 00:18:19,321
I don't believe in the same thing. So

466
00:18:19,776 --> 00:18:21,447
where do we get the moral standard from?

467
00:18:23,277 --> 00:18:25,585
Thank you for the birthday wishes, God bless.

468
00:18:25,759 --> 00:18:26,474
You to, Lawrence.

469
00:18:27,904 --> 00:18:30,049
Funny my state rep is in hiding, and

470
00:18:30,049 --> 00:18:31,718
my senators acting like, he doesn't know what

471
00:18:31,877 --> 00:18:34,394
I'm talking about. He probably doesn't due

472
00:18:35,311 --> 00:18:37,963
I guarantee they just got the language

473
00:18:38,579 --> 00:18:40,731
because I was texting my state rep hours

474
00:18:40,731 --> 00:18:42,246
ago, and he still didn't even have the

475
00:18:42,246 --> 00:18:44,812
language. I knew before him that it dropped.

476
00:18:45,688 --> 00:18:47,761
So think how crazy that is.

477
00:18:49,833 --> 00:18:50,333
So

478
00:18:50,963 --> 00:18:52,632
Alright. Let's get into this a little bit,

479
00:18:53,585 --> 00:18:54,085
and

480
00:18:55,095 --> 00:18:56,071
prepare to be nausea.

481
00:18:57,558 --> 00:18:58,193
Let's see.

482
00:18:59,718 --> 00:19:00,855
If I can

483
00:19:03,776 --> 00:19:04,333
do this.

484
00:19:08,330 --> 00:19:09,527
Alright. I'm gonna do this.

485
00:19:11,841 --> 00:19:13,756
Here we go. This is the summary.

486
00:19:14,647 --> 00:19:17,037
We'll go through this quickly because that will

487
00:19:17,037 --> 00:19:18,391
touch on more points,

488
00:19:20,382 --> 00:19:20,882
and

489
00:19:21,497 --> 00:19:22,214
that'll help,

490
00:19:24,455 --> 00:19:25,114
I think

491
00:19:25,726 --> 00:19:27,792
get to where we are. Conference committee summary,

492
00:19:28,030 --> 00:19:29,143
licensing of firearms,

493
00:19:30,748 --> 00:19:34,258
consolidate and reorganize current firearms, licensing sections into

494
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a single unified process. Doesn't that sound exciting

495
00:19:37,687 --> 00:19:39,304
government is efficient

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with

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00:19:40,733 --> 00:19:43,782
consistent standards, procedures, including license to carrier F

498
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cards, licenses to sell,

499
00:19:46,629 --> 00:19:48,954
what that's a license sell. Is that talking

500
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about my licenses, the gun license, you know,

501
00:19:51,983 --> 00:19:54,533
dealer license and license to sell Ammo? I'm

502
00:19:54,533 --> 00:19:57,413
sure it does permits local licensing authorities to

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request prior license and permit information from the

504
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department of Sea aegis,

505
00:20:02,106 --> 00:20:04,269
as part of their application review that's the

506
00:20:04,428 --> 00:20:08,018
Department of Criminal justice information services, which you

507
00:20:08,018 --> 00:20:08,837
are all

508
00:20:09,214 --> 00:20:12,245
a member of should you have a license

509
00:20:12,245 --> 00:20:13,601
to carrier or an F card.

510
00:20:14,254 --> 00:20:16,808
Same group of people, good folks over there,

511
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keeping track of the... Those that are in

512
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the system for criminal activity. Isn't it ironic?

513
00:20:22,649 --> 00:20:24,007
Someday Dave will just be able to flick

514
00:20:24,007 --> 00:20:25,445
that switch and next thing, you know, we're

515
00:20:25,445 --> 00:20:27,762
all on the other side of the equation.

516
00:20:28,082 --> 00:20:29,120
You know side of the coin.

517
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Ensures licensing authorities have access to mental health

518
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histories and involuntary

519
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commitments of applicants

520
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requires an individual to be 21 years of

521
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old

522
00:20:40,157 --> 00:20:42,704
to buy semi automatic rifles and shotgun or

523
00:20:42,704 --> 00:20:44,933
own them. 18 to 20 year olds may

524
00:20:44,933 --> 00:20:48,298
still possess rifles and shotgun. So your rights

525
00:20:48,515 --> 00:20:49,470
are just

526
00:20:49,961 --> 00:20:51,892
cut in half. They're not totally.

527
00:20:53,060 --> 00:20:54,014
They're just halved.

528
00:20:54,649 --> 00:20:56,159
So let's go to the phones real quick.

529
00:20:56,477 --> 00:20:57,192
I wanna be

530
00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:00,240
wanna be...

531
00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,160
I'm gonna give time to those who wish

532
00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:05,539
to call the show. So

533
00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:06,640
let's see here.

534
00:21:07,533 --> 00:21:08,568
Stand by 1 sec.

535
00:21:11,118 --> 00:21:12,711
Hold on 1 quick sec. Let me get

536
00:21:12,711 --> 00:21:13,109
you over.

537
00:21:14,066 --> 00:21:16,296
I didn't... The 1 time I didn't port

538
00:21:16,296 --> 00:21:16,535
over.

539
00:21:18,700 --> 00:21:19,575
Give me 1 sec.

540
00:21:22,759 --> 00:21:22,919
God.

541
00:21:25,804 --> 00:21:27,644
I just gotta get my bluetooth connected.

542
00:21:35,406 --> 00:21:35,724
Alright.

543
00:21:36,838 --> 00:21:37,315
And...

544
00:21:42,587 --> 00:21:43,703
Alright. Can you hear us?

545
00:21:45,777 --> 00:21:47,373
I can. Can you hear? Yeah We got

546
00:21:47,373 --> 00:21:49,207
you loud and clear. Alright. Go ahead. I'm

547
00:21:49,207 --> 00:21:51,692
sorry for the little trouble there. But

548
00:21:52,489 --> 00:21:53,205
no problem.

549
00:21:53,843 --> 00:21:54,343
No

550
00:21:54,798 --> 00:21:55,276
no problem.

551
00:21:56,152 --> 00:21:56,550
This is

552
00:21:57,267 --> 00:21:58,701
Andrew from Fa haven mask.

553
00:22:00,148 --> 00:22:02,798
Longtime time shopper at your store, and

554
00:22:03,253 --> 00:22:05,402
I just had a few questions about the

555
00:22:05,402 --> 00:22:07,789
current legislature, which I think I already know

556
00:22:07,789 --> 00:22:08,347
the answer to.

557
00:22:09,078 --> 00:22:11,385
But let's say this past tomorrow, which we

558
00:22:11,385 --> 00:22:13,612
all know it's gonna... Yeah. So 2 years

559
00:22:13,612 --> 00:22:15,840
from now, I wanna buy sig comes out

560
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:17,351
with a new version of the Mp x.

561
00:22:17,764 --> 00:22:19,522
It's off the table now. We can't buy

562
00:22:19,522 --> 00:22:19,602
up.

563
00:22:20,481 --> 00:22:22,238
Yeah. You're kinda jumping in the gun,

564
00:22:22,957 --> 00:22:23,596
Andrew Butt.

565
00:22:25,128 --> 00:22:28,151
There is a legacy provision or a grandfather

566
00:22:28,151 --> 00:22:29,504
in clause in here. So if you buy

567
00:22:29,504 --> 00:22:29,583
it,

568
00:22:30,458 --> 00:22:32,208
you can continue to own it, sell it,

569
00:22:32,367 --> 00:22:33,481
trade it, whatever.

570
00:22:33,894 --> 00:22:35,408
So if there's a silver lining to any

571
00:22:35,408 --> 00:22:37,162
of this, it's that, but that that is

572
00:22:37,162 --> 00:22:39,712
not something that makes me wanna support this

573
00:22:39,712 --> 00:22:41,146
bill in any way, shape or form.

574
00:22:41,798 --> 00:22:44,816
Mh. Right. Right. Yeah. Right. But but down

575
00:22:44,816 --> 00:22:46,246
the line, if they come out with a

576
00:22:46,246 --> 00:22:48,708
new model, you wanna purchase it, we no

577
00:22:48,708 --> 00:22:51,031
longer can. Correct? It has to be

578
00:22:51,589 --> 00:22:52,887
you have to purchase something

579
00:22:53,344 --> 00:22:55,258
that came out before the date end.

580
00:22:56,933 --> 00:22:57,811
Correct. Yes.

581
00:22:58,528 --> 00:22:59,486
Alright Well.

582
00:23:00,059 --> 00:23:02,930
Yeah. Well. Yep. And I'll go through what

583
00:23:02,930 --> 00:23:05,164
those are. We're just starting to get into

584
00:23:05,164 --> 00:23:08,194
the nuance of it. So Right. I'll go

585
00:23:08,194 --> 00:23:09,550
into what the nuance of it is.

586
00:23:10,442 --> 00:23:12,934
But from what I can read, yeah, all

587
00:23:13,072 --> 00:23:15,861
future sales of most modern sporting rifles would

588
00:23:15,861 --> 00:23:16,361
be

589
00:23:16,737 --> 00:23:17,056
illegal.

590
00:23:17,629 --> 00:23:21,406
And so... Wow. Yeah. We'll we'll see see

591
00:23:22,025 --> 00:23:24,262
how it ends up tomorrow, but that's how

592
00:23:24,262 --> 00:23:26,180
it is. Of right now. So...

593
00:23:27,073 --> 00:23:28,819
Right, and and I'm too established share to

594
00:23:28,819 --> 00:23:30,327
move out of state. And, you know, I

595
00:23:30,486 --> 00:23:32,470
I used to kinda share that view. I

596
00:23:32,470 --> 00:23:34,430
just need to move to new Hampshire or

597
00:23:34,549 --> 00:23:36,542
But after listening to you over and over,

598
00:23:36,861 --> 00:23:37,361
the

599
00:23:37,897 --> 00:23:39,252
it's kind of a cop out to move,

600
00:23:39,571 --> 00:23:42,043
you know. Yes. Like, staying here and and

601
00:23:42,043 --> 00:23:42,862
fighting it

602
00:23:43,649 --> 00:23:45,315
it... I don't, you know what I'm saying?

603
00:23:45,632 --> 00:23:45,791
Right.

604
00:23:46,664 --> 00:23:48,330
Well, I appreciate the call, Andrew,

605
00:23:49,758 --> 00:23:51,028
fight the good fight brother.

606
00:23:52,237 --> 00:23:54,071
I appreciate it. Thanks for taking me. Take

607
00:23:54,071 --> 00:23:55,427
care. Okay. Bye. Yep.

608
00:23:57,262 --> 00:23:58,618
Alright. Let's see if I can get to

609
00:23:58,618 --> 00:24:00,931
the other caller here. Nope. I dumped you.

610
00:24:01,583 --> 00:24:01,822
Sorry.

611
00:24:02,936 --> 00:24:04,845
That's operator error on my part.

612
00:24:09,476 --> 00:24:11,946
So if you wanna call me back, I

613
00:24:11,946 --> 00:24:13,641
will take your call. I just

614
00:24:14,177 --> 00:24:15,692
inadvertently dumped you trying to answer it.

615
00:24:16,741 --> 00:24:18,886
05:08 4 04/04/2120.

616
00:24:19,443 --> 00:24:20,237
Alright. Let's

617
00:24:20,873 --> 00:24:21,929
go back to

618
00:24:23,257 --> 00:24:24,630
Matt, That's a good question.

619
00:24:25,109 --> 00:24:26,970
It's on the go website

620
00:24:27,269 --> 00:24:28,230
gold dot org.

621
00:24:31,597 --> 00:24:32,390
Let's see here.

622
00:24:33,182 --> 00:24:35,481
Gold dot org is the website where you

623
00:24:35,481 --> 00:24:36,512
can read the final bill,

624
00:24:37,305 --> 00:24:38,281
which we're gonna

625
00:24:38,747 --> 00:24:41,391
I'm gonna show on the scene screen pretty

626
00:24:41,526 --> 00:24:42,320
in a minute here.

627
00:24:43,511 --> 00:24:44,011
But

628
00:24:44,622 --> 00:24:47,425
before we do that, let's go back to

629
00:24:47,972 --> 00:24:49,664
my screen share and

630
00:24:53,771 --> 00:24:55,360
we'll get through this. I promise.

631
00:24:56,888 --> 00:24:59,226
It might be a little interrupted with

632
00:25:00,564 --> 00:25:01,203
phone calls. But...

633
00:25:02,082 --> 00:25:02,721
Alright. So,

634
00:25:04,972 --> 00:25:06,667
that's that licensing.

635
00:25:10,149 --> 00:25:12,880
Moly sorry. Here's the callback. Licensing

636
00:25:13,749 --> 00:25:16,141
has all kinds of stuff in it without

637
00:25:16,141 --> 00:25:18,932
with failing to report lost or stolen firearms.

638
00:25:19,888 --> 00:25:21,664
So it's gonna be an interesting

639
00:25:22,774 --> 00:25:24,532
it's gonna be... Whole hold on 1 sec

640
00:25:24,532 --> 00:25:26,529
caller. It's gonna be interesting to see how

641
00:25:26,529 --> 00:25:29,405
that all plays out plus. Also fines for...

642
00:25:30,455 --> 00:25:33,153
Failing to renew. So anyway, Alright. You're next

643
00:25:33,153 --> 00:25:34,741
on Rapid fire. How are you today?

644
00:25:36,408 --> 00:25:37,916
How are you doing? Toby? Good. Thanks.

645
00:25:39,122 --> 00:25:40,871
I'm 1 of your customers down the road

646
00:25:40,871 --> 00:25:43,017
in pharma, and I just wanted to remind

647
00:25:43,017 --> 00:25:44,845
you that it is possible to leave the

648
00:25:44,845 --> 00:25:45,957
state of Massachusetts.

649
00:25:46,689 --> 00:25:48,363
If you take the rest of your city

650
00:25:48,363 --> 00:25:49,081
government with you.

651
00:25:49,958 --> 00:25:52,589
They can actually become part of New hampshire

652
00:25:52,589 --> 00:25:54,502
and in the process, it would weaken the

653
00:25:54,502 --> 00:25:55,141
political group.

654
00:25:55,873 --> 00:25:57,545
Controlling those state house quite a bit in

655
00:25:57,545 --> 00:25:58,103
the process.

656
00:25:59,776 --> 00:26:02,028
There is also a national security community

657
00:26:02,564 --> 00:26:04,179
that's actually quite large

658
00:26:05,047 --> 00:26:07,195
and it's possible that they may choose to

659
00:26:07,195 --> 00:26:07,695
prosecute

660
00:26:08,149 --> 00:26:10,217
the current holders of office in the State

661
00:26:10,217 --> 00:26:11,013
of Massachusetts.

662
00:26:11,744 --> 00:26:13,813
Well... Because the National security community is not

663
00:26:13,813 --> 00:26:16,279
gonna tolerate this. Yeah. That would be music

664
00:26:16,279 --> 00:26:17,894
to my ears because it certainly

665
00:26:20,099 --> 00:26:20,656
seems like...

666
00:26:21,228 --> 00:26:21,547
Any...

667
00:26:22,344 --> 00:26:23,938
There should be a recall at the very

668
00:26:23,938 --> 00:26:25,234
least for M

669
00:26:26,009 --> 00:26:28,320
because they violate their oath of office. Right?

670
00:26:29,130 --> 00:26:31,455
Right now... Agree. Right now, nobody

671
00:26:32,304 --> 00:26:35,240
is holding them accountable for breaking their oath,

672
00:26:35,478 --> 00:26:36,907
and they don't even believe they have.

673
00:26:37,479 --> 00:26:39,872
When I spoke to Julian Sears office, I

674
00:26:39,872 --> 00:26:41,865
spoke to 1 of his aides, he said

675
00:26:41,865 --> 00:26:44,896
that, oh, the senator would never support legislation

676
00:26:44,896 --> 00:26:45,875
that is

677
00:26:46,491 --> 00:26:46,810
unconstitutional.

678
00:26:47,304 --> 00:26:49,131
And I said, really? You know,

679
00:26:50,084 --> 00:26:52,014
he voted for this bill. That's

680
00:26:52,705 --> 00:26:55,406
unconstitutional. So basically, they think the constitution is

681
00:26:55,406 --> 00:26:57,596
some... Sliding scale document that,

682
00:26:57,974 --> 00:26:59,649
you know, Oh I agree. That they...

683
00:27:00,607 --> 00:27:03,001
Go ahead. I'm... I even had problems with

684
00:27:03,081 --> 00:27:03,581
Eye

685
00:27:04,052 --> 00:27:06,121
did some secret work for the Air force,

686
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:06,780
and

687
00:27:07,155 --> 00:27:09,622
I've had problems with prop try to illegally

688
00:27:09,622 --> 00:27:09,941
seize it.

689
00:27:10,736 --> 00:27:12,740
Mh and I had to turn them over

690
00:27:12,740 --> 00:27:14,411
between Intelligence agency. Yeah.

691
00:27:15,127 --> 00:27:15,445
And,

692
00:27:16,479 --> 00:27:18,627
they were absolutely horrified at the behavior of

693
00:27:18,627 --> 00:27:22,068
the Massachusetts government. Yeah. And as a result,

694
00:27:22,307 --> 00:27:23,981
I think there's going to be some pretty

695
00:27:23,981 --> 00:27:25,337
bad political payback.

696
00:27:25,815 --> 00:27:27,650
They're going to get hurt bad whether they

697
00:27:27,650 --> 00:27:29,164
recognize or not. Mh

698
00:27:30,218 --> 00:27:31,897
there's gonna be somebody coming after.

699
00:27:33,175 --> 00:27:36,212
I hope so, because I don't think that

700
00:27:36,212 --> 00:27:37,011
it should be,

701
00:27:38,782 --> 00:27:41,805
just a open checkbook on what they can

702
00:27:41,805 --> 00:27:43,260
do without having

703
00:27:43,873 --> 00:27:44,907
ramifications. And most people,

704
00:27:45,798 --> 00:27:47,947
lawyers, I'm sure that are gonna join the

705
00:27:47,947 --> 00:27:49,379
show later. Are gonna tell me that the

706
00:27:49,379 --> 00:27:50,994
only check on on

707
00:27:51,608 --> 00:27:52,483
constitution is is

708
00:27:53,598 --> 00:27:54,336
is the

709
00:27:55,443 --> 00:27:57,664
ballot box. So thanks for the call, man.

710
00:27:57,902 --> 00:28:00,203
I appreciate it and keep listening.

711
00:28:01,076 --> 00:28:02,980
Let's go over to the phones here again,

712
00:28:03,218 --> 00:28:05,143
your neck on rapid fire. How are you

713
00:28:05,143 --> 00:28:05,303
today?

714
00:28:08,728 --> 00:28:09,445
Hello? Hello?

715
00:28:10,082 --> 00:28:10,582
Fox

716
00:28:10,893 --> 00:28:12,003
How's it going? Calling?

717
00:28:12,479 --> 00:28:14,461
Oh, just turn down your whole. Turn down

718
00:28:14,461 --> 00:28:16,522
your computer, so we we don't get that

719
00:28:16,522 --> 00:28:18,108
feedback or just mute it for now.

720
00:28:18,998 --> 00:28:21,150
Because you're coming through lab on the on

721
00:28:21,150 --> 00:28:24,419
the back end. Hello... Yep. Yep. III...

722
00:28:24,658 --> 00:28:26,173
My Youtube was delayed. I didn't know that

723
00:28:26,253 --> 00:28:27,623
I would so that I was on. Yes.

724
00:28:27,862 --> 00:28:30,333
You're, a long time... Yep. Long time listening

725
00:28:30,652 --> 00:28:32,166
Toby. I'm 1 of the people who's gonna

726
00:28:32,166 --> 00:28:33,839
be affected by this. I'm an f holder

727
00:28:33,839 --> 00:28:34,716
this on 21.

728
00:28:35,369 --> 00:28:36,028
I'm wondering,

729
00:28:37,044 --> 00:28:38,400
and I know this is gonna affect you

730
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,394
hunt as very negatively elaine youth sports shooters

731
00:28:40,394 --> 00:28:41,749
and and I'm very sad to see that

732
00:28:41,749 --> 00:28:43,265
provision in the bill. Do you know if

733
00:28:43,265 --> 00:28:44,642
there's gonna be a

734
00:28:45,751 --> 00:28:47,900
a grand grandfather clause, or is there gonna

735
00:28:47,900 --> 00:28:49,832
be a gun buy back for

736
00:28:50,208 --> 00:28:52,618
current new hunters and youth sports loan

737
00:28:53,089 --> 00:28:55,483
now band guns under 21, and... What how

738
00:28:55,483 --> 00:28:56,680
is this gonna work? Is it gonna be

739
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,515
a aca style buy or you gonna have

740
00:28:58,515 --> 00:28:59,712
to turn them in? They're like, how is

741
00:28:59,712 --> 00:29:01,820
this all gonna work now? No. There is

742
00:29:01,955 --> 00:29:03,487
my grandfather in clause

743
00:29:04,019 --> 00:29:05,765
provision in this, not that it makes it

744
00:29:05,765 --> 00:29:06,479
any better.

745
00:29:07,273 --> 00:29:09,908
Honestly, I wish it didn't have it. Because

746
00:29:10,067 --> 00:29:12,056
I would love to see them be faced

747
00:29:12,056 --> 00:29:14,545
with stacking up and going door to door

748
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:15,340
or

749
00:29:17,147 --> 00:29:18,363
you know, mass

750
00:29:20,190 --> 00:29:21,249
disobedience to

751
00:29:21,787 --> 00:29:25,378
unconstitutional laws. But now they've they've decided to

752
00:29:25,378 --> 00:29:25,878
go

753
00:29:26,336 --> 00:29:26,836
in

754
00:29:27,230 --> 00:29:30,769
take the easy way out and grant a

755
00:29:31,069 --> 00:29:33,789
language that would allow you to continue to

756
00:29:33,789 --> 00:29:34,289
own

757
00:29:37,884 --> 00:29:40,285
whatever gun you buy prior to the enactment

758
00:29:40,285 --> 00:29:42,204
of the bill. The way that typically works,

759
00:29:42,444 --> 00:29:45,199
let's say it gets voted in, and signed

760
00:29:45,337 --> 00:29:45,656
tomorrow.

761
00:29:46,535 --> 00:29:49,169
It'll get sent tomorrow Heal desk before August

762
00:29:49,169 --> 00:29:49,488
first,

763
00:29:50,286 --> 00:29:52,442
and I'm sure she'll sign it with some

764
00:29:52,442 --> 00:29:52,681
big...

765
00:29:53,652 --> 00:29:55,397
Press conference and bunch of

766
00:29:56,191 --> 00:29:57,008
oath breaking

767
00:29:57,460 --> 00:30:00,260
politicians standing around her, and then

768
00:30:00,648 --> 00:30:02,718
it'll either have a hundred and 20 days.

769
00:30:02,877 --> 00:30:05,186
It's kind the the way it is. We

770
00:30:05,186 --> 00:30:07,176
can talk to Mike Harris about this from

771
00:30:07,176 --> 00:30:09,734
goal in the in the 05:00 hour. But,

772
00:30:10,449 --> 00:30:13,068
generally speaking, it's anywhere from 90 to a

773
00:30:13,068 --> 00:30:15,370
hundred and 80 days from the signing of

774
00:30:15,370 --> 00:30:17,116
the bill to go into effect.

775
00:30:17,769 --> 00:30:20,243
And then after that date, you can keep

776
00:30:20,243 --> 00:30:21,760
what you got, you can sell what you

777
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:23,756
got, but you can't get more of it.

778
00:30:23,996 --> 00:30:25,432
So that's the way it's gonna go.

779
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,267
Thank you very much for explaining this. Is

780
00:30:29,267 --> 00:30:31,173
there... Could there maybe be an effort started?

781
00:30:31,411 --> 00:30:33,793
Like they have another states to 2 for

782
00:30:33,793 --> 00:30:35,381
this because I know other courts and other

783
00:30:35,381 --> 00:30:38,360
states have found hand Gun 04:20 ones are

784
00:30:38,416 --> 00:30:39,370
constitutional much less,

785
00:30:40,563 --> 00:30:42,311
Long gun. Is that something that we could

786
00:30:42,391 --> 00:30:44,194
Sat, Massachusetts? Yes. In

787
00:30:45,193 --> 00:30:47,191
that the problem with that is, it has

788
00:30:47,191 --> 00:30:48,789
to be signed in the law first, and

789
00:30:48,789 --> 00:30:50,408
then somebody has to be harmed

790
00:30:50,947 --> 00:30:52,945
by it in order to have standing to

791
00:30:52,945 --> 00:30:53,185
sue.

792
00:30:54,315 --> 00:30:56,224
And it's... What are you gonna sue for?

793
00:30:56,622 --> 00:30:57,122
Because,

794
00:30:57,576 --> 00:30:59,429
you know, this bill is a comprehensive

795
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,373
omni bus bill. It covers

796
00:31:02,684 --> 00:31:06,034
like, a hundred and 11 pages worth the

797
00:31:06,034 --> 00:31:07,571
gun law. So

798
00:31:08,187 --> 00:31:10,022
you're only gonna be harmed by 1 thing

799
00:31:10,022 --> 00:31:12,037
at a time. Right? You can't

800
00:31:12,589 --> 00:31:14,345
take a hundred and 11 page bill and

801
00:31:14,345 --> 00:31:16,659
say, I'm harmed by all of this even

802
00:31:16,659 --> 00:31:17,297
though you are.

803
00:31:17,935 --> 00:31:19,792
But in reality, the practical

804
00:31:20,898 --> 00:31:22,564
application of it is it's gonna be 1

805
00:31:22,564 --> 00:31:23,199
thing at a time.

806
00:31:23,834 --> 00:31:26,373
And so really, we gotta challenge the salt

807
00:31:26,373 --> 00:31:28,460
weapons band part of it. We gotta challenge

808
00:31:28,768 --> 00:31:31,148
the licensing part of it. We gotta challenge

809
00:31:31,148 --> 00:31:31,648
the

810
00:31:32,497 --> 00:31:35,195
sensitive places location part of it. All separate,

811
00:31:35,354 --> 00:31:35,884
and that's

812
00:31:36,322 --> 00:31:37,833
you know, I'm no lawyer, but we'll talk

813
00:31:37,833 --> 00:31:39,663
to Jason Gui in the second hour about

814
00:31:39,663 --> 00:31:39,742
that.

815
00:31:40,617 --> 00:31:41,913
There might even be some

816
00:31:42,288 --> 00:31:42,900
relief, which

817
00:31:43,814 --> 00:31:46,200
as we're finding isn't working well for the

818
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,086
second amendment movement. It's almost better to lose

819
00:31:49,223 --> 00:31:51,052
quick and get it to the Supreme Court.

820
00:31:52,023 --> 00:31:54,338
But, anyway, we'll we'll talk about that as

821
00:31:54,338 --> 00:31:55,775
well in second hour a lot.

822
00:31:56,733 --> 00:31:59,069
But, yeah, It's a it's a bad day

823
00:31:59,368 --> 00:32:01,859
here in Massachusetts. So... We'll get into more

824
00:32:01,859 --> 00:32:04,420
of this bill, so keep listening and and

825
00:32:04,420 --> 00:32:05,940
we'll we'll talk about it further.

826
00:32:06,900 --> 00:32:08,910
Thanks for the call, bud. Thanks. Yep. Thank

827
00:32:08,910 --> 00:32:12,245
you very much. Fine. 05:08 4 04/04/2120

828
00:32:12,245 --> 00:32:12,801
is the number.

829
00:32:13,913 --> 00:32:15,899
Alright. Let's get right to the part everyone

830
00:32:15,899 --> 00:32:18,940
wants to know about. Alright. Assaults. Style firearm.

831
00:32:19,579 --> 00:32:21,660
That's a new term. It's no longer a

832
00:32:21,660 --> 00:32:23,839
assault weapon. It's a salt style

833
00:32:24,539 --> 00:32:25,019
firearm.

834
00:32:25,674 --> 00:32:28,015
Is a semi automatic center fire rifle

835
00:32:28,554 --> 00:32:31,755
with the capacity to accept a detachable feeding

836
00:32:31,755 --> 00:32:34,234
device and includes at least 2 of the

837
00:32:34,234 --> 00:32:36,482
following features. What are the 2 features?

838
00:32:37,198 --> 00:32:40,083
Alright. A folding and tele stock or tele

839
00:32:40,855 --> 00:32:42,922
stock. That's always been there. Here's a new

840
00:32:42,922 --> 00:32:43,081
1.

841
00:32:43,892 --> 00:32:45,244
A thumb hole stock.

842
00:32:47,789 --> 00:32:50,176
That's a new 1. Pistol grip always been

843
00:32:50,176 --> 00:32:53,970
there. A forward grip or second hand grip

844
00:32:54,269 --> 00:32:55,009
or pro,

845
00:32:55,390 --> 00:32:58,190
Son of a gun, sorry, or protruding grip,

846
00:32:59,562 --> 00:33:01,636
that can be held by the non trigger

847
00:33:01,636 --> 00:33:02,593
hand. That's a new 1.

848
00:33:04,188 --> 00:33:07,240
A threaded barrel capable of accepting a flash

849
00:33:07,299 --> 00:33:07,618
suppressor,

850
00:33:08,909 --> 00:33:11,460
forward hand grip or silence, by the way,

851
00:33:11,619 --> 00:33:13,851
that threaded barrel and flash the suppressor has

852
00:33:13,851 --> 00:33:16,801
always been there. Forward hand grip or silence

853
00:33:16,801 --> 00:33:19,438
sir, both of those are, the silence has

854
00:33:19,438 --> 00:33:21,581
always been there, but the Forward hand grip

855
00:33:21,581 --> 00:33:22,319
is new

856
00:33:22,851 --> 00:33:24,677
and get this a shroud.

857
00:33:25,410 --> 00:33:28,529
That circles either all or part of the

858
00:33:28,529 --> 00:33:31,090
barrel designed to shield the bearer hand from

859
00:33:31,090 --> 00:33:31,330
heat.

860
00:33:32,369 --> 00:33:35,261
Excluding a... Slide that include en closes the

861
00:33:35,261 --> 00:33:37,817
barrel. So they're excluding a slide on, like,

862
00:33:37,897 --> 00:33:39,176
a semi automatic pistol.

863
00:33:40,148 --> 00:33:40,648
But

864
00:33:41,421 --> 00:33:44,046
I can't think of a semi automatic rifle

865
00:33:44,046 --> 00:33:46,432
that doesn't have a shroud of some sort.

866
00:33:47,163 --> 00:33:50,345
And doesn't have a protruding hand grip and

867
00:33:50,345 --> 00:33:52,254
doesn't have a detachable magazine.

868
00:33:52,970 --> 00:33:53,470
So

869
00:33:54,655 --> 00:33:56,881
you know, what gives? Maybe the m1 carb

870
00:33:56,881 --> 00:33:58,493
would be able to thread this

871
00:33:59,265 --> 00:34:01,013
needle if it didn't have a flash hide.

872
00:34:02,461 --> 00:34:03,997
Maybe you can get the m1 carb

873
00:34:04,374 --> 00:34:06,684
with just the non threaded muzzle,

874
00:34:08,039 --> 00:34:08,539
and

875
00:34:09,730 --> 00:34:11,889
your 2 detached... Your 2 evil features will

876
00:34:11,889 --> 00:34:13,170
be the stock in the front,

877
00:34:13,889 --> 00:34:15,329
and the detachable magazine.

878
00:34:15,889 --> 00:34:18,150
And that's it. So maybe we can sell

879
00:34:18,464 --> 00:34:19,585
the Rug ranch rifle,

880
00:34:20,545 --> 00:34:21,904
the m1 carb,

881
00:34:22,784 --> 00:34:23,284
and

882
00:34:23,585 --> 00:34:26,164
maybe the Rug Pc carb in certain

883
00:34:26,864 --> 00:34:27,105
configurations,

884
00:34:28,075 --> 00:34:29,507
and kind that's it,

885
00:34:30,223 --> 00:34:31,996
because now this forward

886
00:34:32,609 --> 00:34:33,109
shroud

887
00:34:34,041 --> 00:34:36,624
that either completely or partially

888
00:34:36,999 --> 00:34:38,749
encircle the barrel to keep your hand from

889
00:34:38,749 --> 00:34:39,385
being burned.

890
00:34:40,499 --> 00:34:40,897
It's like,

891
00:34:41,630 --> 00:34:43,550
So look at what they're doing here.

892
00:34:44,430 --> 00:34:47,150
A pistol grip, a vertical 4 grip, a

893
00:34:47,150 --> 00:34:49,309
shroud. These are all things that enable you

894
00:34:49,309 --> 00:34:50,190
to shoot the gun,

895
00:34:50,844 --> 00:34:51,824
more accurately

896
00:34:52,445 --> 00:34:54,684
and have control on the gun. So what

897
00:34:54,684 --> 00:34:56,844
they're saying by this is that they wanna

898
00:34:56,844 --> 00:34:58,784
make sure that you can't accurately

899
00:34:59,418 --> 00:35:02,041
shoot the gun or have control over it.

900
00:35:03,551 --> 00:35:04,902
How insane is that?

901
00:35:06,254 --> 00:35:07,525
It's totally nuts,

902
00:35:09,132 --> 00:35:09,632
because

903
00:35:12,242 --> 00:35:13,061
the whole

904
00:35:13,756 --> 00:35:15,054
19 98

905
00:35:15,271 --> 00:35:17,127
control bill was about

906
00:35:17,438 --> 00:35:20,686
keeping guns in the hands of citizens safe.

907
00:35:21,954 --> 00:35:24,251
So they use the consumer protection Act,

908
00:35:24,902 --> 00:35:26,755
to come up with all this

909
00:35:27,211 --> 00:35:30,076
unconstitutional regulation around how guns will be added

910
00:35:30,076 --> 00:35:31,270
to the firearms roster.

911
00:35:32,225 --> 00:35:34,158
Because we wanna keep people safe

912
00:35:35,026 --> 00:35:37,098
Well, now what you're telling us is you

913
00:35:37,098 --> 00:35:39,010
want us to be a less safe. You

914
00:35:39,010 --> 00:35:40,684
want us to burn our hand when we're

915
00:35:40,684 --> 00:35:42,357
shooting it, trying to shoot it and control

916
00:35:42,357 --> 00:35:43,153
the muzzle rise.

917
00:35:45,001 --> 00:35:47,095
Or you wanna make it so that we're

918
00:35:47,471 --> 00:35:49,543
we aren't as comfortably shooting the gun or

919
00:35:49,543 --> 00:35:52,491
is accurately shooting the gun. Who does that

920
00:35:52,491 --> 00:35:52,991
benefit?

921
00:35:54,818 --> 00:35:56,496
It certainly doesn't benefit the shooter.

922
00:35:57,855 --> 00:36:00,971
Certainly doesn't benefit society and make the public

923
00:36:00,971 --> 00:36:01,370
safer.

924
00:36:03,224 --> 00:36:04,344
Doesn't make any sense.

925
00:36:04,984 --> 00:36:05,885
It only benefits

926
00:36:06,824 --> 00:36:07,304
guess who,

927
00:36:07,864 --> 00:36:08,264
tyrant,

928
00:36:08,744 --> 00:36:09,224
government,

929
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,039
who want to make sure that you don't

930
00:36:12,039 --> 00:36:12,539
have

931
00:36:13,159 --> 00:36:13,659
equal

932
00:36:14,839 --> 00:36:15,339
opportunity

933
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:19,093
or equal firearms to what they have and

934
00:36:19,093 --> 00:36:21,565
what they possess. Because when they come,

935
00:36:22,362 --> 00:36:24,775
the day they come to insist

936
00:36:25,311 --> 00:36:26,210
on other

937
00:36:26,906 --> 00:36:29,144
unconstitutional stuff that you would never go along

938
00:36:29,144 --> 00:36:29,303
with.

939
00:36:31,048 --> 00:36:33,191
You got nothing to to show for it.

940
00:36:33,349 --> 00:36:35,913
You got nothing but your weber action single

941
00:36:35,913 --> 00:36:39,028
shot, bolt action, break action, double barrel, whatever.

942
00:36:39,827 --> 00:36:40,067
Right?

943
00:36:41,839 --> 00:36:44,232
Check this out. Some new language here, a

944
00:36:44,232 --> 00:36:46,407
semi automatic pistol with the capacity

945
00:36:46,864 --> 00:36:49,655
to accept the detachable feeding device and includes

946
00:36:49,655 --> 00:36:51,011
at least 2 of the following.

947
00:36:52,065 --> 00:36:54,704
The capacity to accept the feeding device that

948
00:36:54,704 --> 00:36:57,045
attaches to the pistol outside the pistol grip

949
00:36:57,264 --> 00:36:59,025
makes it in a full weapon.

950
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,519
A second hand grip or a protruding grip

951
00:37:03,519 --> 00:37:05,119
that can be held by the non trigger

952
00:37:05,119 --> 00:37:07,280
hand. That was kind of a n mfa

953
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:07,440
thing.

954
00:37:08,253 --> 00:37:09,628
A threaded barrel

955
00:37:10,322 --> 00:37:12,868
capable of accepting a flash suppressor.

956
00:37:13,902 --> 00:37:14,402
So

957
00:37:15,509 --> 00:37:16,248
the new

958
00:37:16,784 --> 00:37:19,333
roster just dropped today by the way. This

959
00:37:19,333 --> 00:37:20,768
was gonna be my whole show,

960
00:37:21,485 --> 00:37:21,985
except

961
00:37:22,361 --> 00:37:24,353
this happened, which Trumps all of it.

962
00:37:25,483 --> 00:37:27,733
But on the brand new

963
00:37:28,505 --> 00:37:29,778
approved weapons roster,

964
00:37:30,255 --> 00:37:32,187
we have the 05:09 tactical

965
00:37:32,721 --> 00:37:33,437
midsize guns,

966
00:37:34,248 --> 00:37:36,183
and we have the Sa so

967
00:37:36,639 --> 00:37:36,958
guns,

968
00:37:37,755 --> 00:37:39,828
both of which have a threaded barrel.

969
00:37:40,465 --> 00:37:43,192
So this language is gonna make existing guns

970
00:37:43,192 --> 00:37:46,304
on the approved weapons roster illegal to possess,

971
00:37:46,703 --> 00:37:48,378
not to mention all the other guns that

972
00:37:48,378 --> 00:37:49,495
had threaded muzzle.

973
00:37:50,306 --> 00:37:52,710
Already. The 05:09 tactical, the

974
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:54,774
the f

975
00:37:55,941 --> 00:37:56,734
45,

976
00:37:57,544 --> 00:37:59,716
of f x 45 tactical.

977
00:38:00,729 --> 00:38:02,663
There was other guns on there with threaded

978
00:38:02,721 --> 00:38:04,734
muscles that I'm missing the Sig

979
00:38:05,110 --> 00:38:05,906
322,

980
00:38:06,637 --> 00:38:08,865
the taurus t x 22.

981
00:38:09,501 --> 00:38:11,092
I mean, the list goes on and on

982
00:38:11,092 --> 00:38:13,558
and on about the Rug Sr 22, the

983
00:38:13,717 --> 00:38:14,751
Walther p 22.

984
00:38:15,324 --> 00:38:17,559
These are all gonna now be illegal to

985
00:38:17,559 --> 00:38:20,512
own Ci mosquito. I mean, give me a

986
00:38:20,512 --> 00:38:22,268
break. This is ridiculous.

987
00:38:24,117 --> 00:38:26,739
So... And again, the shroud that in in

988
00:38:26,739 --> 00:38:28,169
circles part of the barrel,

989
00:38:29,599 --> 00:38:30,552
that, you know,

990
00:38:31,204 --> 00:38:33,121
en closes it keeps you from being burned.

991
00:38:33,601 --> 00:38:35,518
We want you to be burned when you

992
00:38:35,518 --> 00:38:35,758
shoot.

993
00:38:36,557 --> 00:38:37,776
That's what you deserve

994
00:38:38,409 --> 00:38:40,954
you surf, you peasant, you think you have

995
00:38:40,954 --> 00:38:41,431
a ripe.

996
00:38:42,943 --> 00:38:44,852
You have a privilege, and we're gonna make

997
00:38:44,852 --> 00:38:46,840
sure that it hurts to shoot.

998
00:38:47,492 --> 00:38:49,240
That's basically the way they're going at it.

999
00:38:49,717 --> 00:38:52,180
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Alright. Welcome back.

1041
00:40:42,576 --> 00:40:44,651
To rapid fire your weekly show all things

1042
00:40:44,651 --> 00:40:47,302
guns freedom. Second amendment in self defense.

1043
00:40:48,101 --> 00:40:51,457
Today's day, when we're dropping some very bad

1044
00:40:51,457 --> 00:40:51,957
news

1045
00:40:52,336 --> 00:40:55,218
on you the Freedom loving American that you

1046
00:40:55,218 --> 00:40:58,162
are, and those who've chosen to stay and

1047
00:40:58,162 --> 00:41:00,231
remain in the state of Massachusetts,

1048
00:41:01,363 --> 00:41:03,840
I appreciate you guys staying in in toe

1049
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,317
on the line standing up for freedom.

1050
00:41:07,435 --> 00:41:07,969
This is

1051
00:41:08,485 --> 00:41:08,802
obviously,

1052
00:41:09,358 --> 00:41:10,572
a terrible, terrible

1053
00:41:11,023 --> 00:41:13,324
bill. We're just getting into it, and

1054
00:41:14,434 --> 00:41:17,392
we're talking about the most egregious 1 right

1055
00:41:17,392 --> 00:41:19,547
now, the the salt weapons ban.

1056
00:41:20,664 --> 00:41:22,022
So let's get back at it,

1057
00:41:23,219 --> 00:41:23,538
and,

1058
00:41:25,548 --> 00:41:26,048
the

1059
00:41:26,900 --> 00:41:28,969
we'll read it together here. Let me find

1060
00:41:28,969 --> 00:41:30,003
my way.

1061
00:41:33,831 --> 00:41:35,815
Me see if I am sharing the right.

1062
00:41:36,290 --> 00:41:37,084
Yeah. Okay.

1063
00:41:37,797 --> 00:41:38,036
Cool.

1064
00:41:39,479 --> 00:41:40,751
Let me see if I can zoom in

1065
00:41:40,751 --> 00:41:41,626
a little bit on this.

1066
00:41:42,579 --> 00:41:44,272
I don't think I can, unfortunately.

1067
00:41:45,681 --> 00:41:48,066
And this is just the summary.

1068
00:41:48,463 --> 00:41:48,963
So

1069
00:41:49,672 --> 00:41:51,186
we're not gonna do that. Alright.

1070
00:41:53,257 --> 00:41:55,487
Semi automatic shotgun that includes at least 2

1071
00:41:55,487 --> 00:41:57,740
of the following features a folding or tele

1072
00:41:58,036 --> 00:42:01,006
stock. A thumb hole stock or a pistol

1073
00:42:01,006 --> 00:42:01,246
grip,

1074
00:42:02,844 --> 00:42:05,640
a protruding grip for the non trigger hand

1075
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:06,140
or

1076
00:42:06,533 --> 00:42:09,717
the capacity to accept a detachable feeding device.

1077
00:42:10,433 --> 00:42:13,617
So if it has a the 2 feature

1078
00:42:13,617 --> 00:42:13,936
test,

1079
00:42:15,070 --> 00:42:17,230
I guess that's them throwing us a bone.

1080
00:42:17,389 --> 00:42:19,230
Because right now, it's a single featured test,

1081
00:42:19,949 --> 00:42:22,838
but they're gonna make shotgun guns the same

1082
00:42:22,838 --> 00:42:23,395
as rifles,

1083
00:42:23,952 --> 00:42:26,362
and we'll be able to have a stock

1084
00:42:27,295 --> 00:42:27,795
or

1085
00:42:30,177 --> 00:42:33,626
1 other evil feature. So, but that doesn't

1086
00:42:34,083 --> 00:42:34,401
again,

1087
00:42:35,278 --> 00:42:36,017
make me

1088
00:42:36,394 --> 00:42:37,271
supportive with this bill.

1089
00:42:38,639 --> 00:42:40,945
I don't see any change to the copies

1090
00:42:40,945 --> 00:42:41,764
or duplicates

1091
00:42:43,173 --> 00:42:44,445
that we already had,

1092
00:42:45,733 --> 00:42:47,244
ak, all models,

1093
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,584
action arms, military industry U, or Gale alleles,

1094
00:42:51,618 --> 00:42:52,754
greta A ar seventies,

1095
00:42:53,143 --> 00:42:56,557
the c a ar 15, the FFALFLAR

1096
00:42:56,557 --> 00:42:58,621
and FFC,

1097
00:43:00,050 --> 00:43:02,530
the Sw at Mac 11 Mac, the 10

1098
00:43:02,609 --> 00:43:03,170
Mac 9,

1099
00:43:03,730 --> 00:43:05,569
Mac 12, S Au,

1100
00:43:06,369 --> 00:43:09,489
Inter tech tech 9, dc 9, tech 22,

1101
00:43:09,984 --> 00:43:12,853
in any revolving cylinder shotgun, including, but not

1102
00:43:12,853 --> 00:43:15,643
limited to the street sweep and Str 12.

1103
00:43:18,049 --> 00:43:19,905
So this is where they've cod

1104
00:43:21,081 --> 00:43:21,581
the

1105
00:43:21,959 --> 00:43:23,076
attorney general's language.

1106
00:43:24,273 --> 00:43:24,991
Any gun,

1107
00:43:26,043 --> 00:43:26,543
that

1108
00:43:27,159 --> 00:43:28,856
doesn't fit the above category

1109
00:43:29,552 --> 00:43:30,270
that is

1110
00:43:31,227 --> 00:43:33,859
was sold or owned and registered prior to

1111
00:43:33,859 --> 00:43:34,757
20 16,

1112
00:43:35,708 --> 00:43:36,528
shall be

1113
00:43:39,220 --> 00:43:42,194
apparently not a considered a duplicate or

1114
00:43:42,811 --> 00:43:43,631
it'll be

1115
00:43:44,340 --> 00:43:45,932
grandfather in or something like that.

1116
00:43:47,602 --> 00:43:50,568
Any assault style firearm shall not include

1117
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,440
any firearm that is operated by manual bolt

1118
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:56,239
pump lever slide action, firearm that has been

1119
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,400
rendered permanently ina opera, but get this.

1120
00:43:59,214 --> 00:44:00,573
As you kicked down here,

1121
00:44:02,571 --> 00:44:05,608
a semi... Oh, okay. Excuse me, That just

1122
00:44:05,608 --> 00:44:07,925
says shotgun now. I thought that originally... That

1123
00:44:07,925 --> 00:44:10,351
originally was a fixed magazine

1124
00:44:11,201 --> 00:44:13,108
that holds more than 5 rounds.

1125
00:44:14,140 --> 00:44:15,728
They they try to throw that in. I

1126
00:44:15,728 --> 00:44:17,158
don't know if that's still in there, but

1127
00:44:17,237 --> 00:44:17,952
I don't see it.

1128
00:44:19,484 --> 00:44:20,764
That must have got stripped out.

1129
00:44:21,804 --> 00:44:22,304
But

1130
00:44:22,844 --> 00:44:23,344
any

1131
00:44:23,644 --> 00:44:23,804
anyway,

1132
00:44:24,445 --> 00:44:25,744
they also have language

1133
00:44:26,139 --> 00:44:29,666
of readily assembled or readily modified

1134
00:44:30,361 --> 00:44:33,045
through a combination of available parts into a

1135
00:44:33,724 --> 00:44:34,224
assault

1136
00:44:34,525 --> 00:44:35,005
firearm.

1137
00:44:35,565 --> 00:44:36,065
So,

1138
00:44:36,444 --> 00:44:38,144
you know, if you got a gun that

1139
00:44:39,005 --> 00:44:40,464
uses some sort of

1140
00:44:41,659 --> 00:44:44,460
delete or whatever that makes it a single

1141
00:44:44,460 --> 00:44:47,099
shot or a bolt action or a slide

1142
00:44:47,099 --> 00:44:48,699
action or something like that, but you could

1143
00:44:48,699 --> 00:44:49,199
easily

1144
00:44:49,674 --> 00:44:51,989
throw some parts together and make it semi

1145
00:44:51,989 --> 00:44:52,548
auto again,

1146
00:44:53,347 --> 00:44:54,624
wrong answer. It's not gonna work.

1147
00:44:55,422 --> 00:44:57,119
So under this, but

1148
00:45:00,460 --> 00:45:03,002
then there's more definitions. That was just the

1149
00:45:03,002 --> 00:45:03,717
definition around that.

1150
00:45:04,909 --> 00:45:06,577
It talks about under...

1151
00:45:11,359 --> 00:45:13,686
I don't know where the language is, but

1152
00:45:13,743 --> 00:45:14,617
it talks about...

1153
00:45:15,666 --> 00:45:16,166
The

1154
00:45:16,699 --> 00:45:17,199
grandfather

1155
00:45:17,733 --> 00:45:19,324
and interestingly enough.

1156
00:45:20,437 --> 00:45:21,971
I don't know if,

1157
00:45:23,951 --> 00:45:25,223
you know, I'm not an attorney,

1158
00:45:25,700 --> 00:45:27,472
but I don't know if

1159
00:45:29,358 --> 00:45:29,858
the

1160
00:45:31,759 --> 00:45:33,114
part here where it says,

1161
00:45:36,624 --> 00:45:38,937
the the firearm shall not be considered a

1162
00:45:38,937 --> 00:45:41,112
duplicate or copy if the firearm

1163
00:45:41,983 --> 00:45:44,692
identified and causes D e, if sold owned

1164
00:45:44,692 --> 00:45:46,763
and registered prior to 20 16.

1165
00:45:47,241 --> 00:45:48,697
I don't know if that means

1166
00:45:49,009 --> 00:45:51,954
dealers will be able to sell registered guns

1167
00:45:51,954 --> 00:45:53,090
that were dealt

1168
00:45:53,626 --> 00:45:55,854
were were bought prior to 20 16. If

1169
00:45:55,854 --> 00:45:56,570
that's the case,

1170
00:45:57,541 --> 00:45:59,849
it'll at least enable us to continue to

1171
00:45:59,849 --> 00:46:01,599
deal with them, but I haven't found the

1172
00:46:01,599 --> 00:46:02,634
language on that yet.

1173
00:46:03,350 --> 00:46:03,828
And

1174
00:46:04,797 --> 00:46:06,623
actually, we can't even deal with those now,

1175
00:46:06,782 --> 00:46:08,608
so that's 1 thing that we'll be able

1176
00:46:08,608 --> 00:46:09,004
to do.

1177
00:46:10,989 --> 00:46:11,489
So

1178
00:46:12,576 --> 00:46:14,421
let's see if... I don't know if there's

1179
00:46:14,421 --> 00:46:16,415
a there's a whole bunch of stuff on

1180
00:46:16,415 --> 00:46:17,771
extreme protection orders,

1181
00:46:19,206 --> 00:46:19,706
firearm,

1182
00:46:20,801 --> 00:46:22,476
look at the definition of firearm, by the

1183
00:46:22,476 --> 00:46:24,429
way, A stun gun

1184
00:46:25,047 --> 00:46:26,106
pistol revolver

1185
00:46:27,285 --> 00:46:28,264
is amazing

1186
00:46:28,723 --> 00:46:30,801
that they consider a stun gun of firearm.

1187
00:46:32,893 --> 00:46:35,610
Which is designed or may readily be converted

1188
00:46:35,610 --> 00:46:38,168
to expel a shot or a bullet, the

1189
00:46:38,168 --> 00:46:40,245
frame or receiver of any such firearm,

1190
00:46:40,818 --> 00:46:43,908
or the unfinished frame receiver of any such

1191
00:46:43,908 --> 00:46:46,364
firearm and provided, however, that firearm shall not

1192
00:46:46,364 --> 00:46:47,815
include any antique

1193
00:46:48,757 --> 00:46:51,454
firearm or permanently in opera. So now they're

1194
00:46:51,454 --> 00:46:53,619
trying to put any

1195
00:46:54,230 --> 00:46:55,920
firearm or the unfinished

1196
00:46:56,230 --> 00:46:59,110
frame or receiver. Now, that's been struck down

1197
00:46:59,110 --> 00:47:00,070
by federal courts.

1198
00:47:01,269 --> 00:47:02,390
Bass doesn't care.

1199
00:47:02,949 --> 00:47:03,885
They're putting in

1200
00:47:04,481 --> 00:47:07,207
unfinished frame is now considered a firearm

1201
00:47:07,661 --> 00:47:09,728
under state law. Used to be it had

1202
00:47:09,728 --> 00:47:11,557
to go bang, not anymore.

1203
00:47:12,208 --> 00:47:14,117
Frame the part of a pistol or revolver

1204
00:47:14,117 --> 00:47:16,504
that provides housing or structure for the component,

1205
00:47:17,061 --> 00:47:19,462
designed to hold back the hammer strike, Str

1206
00:47:19,462 --> 00:47:22,987
or bolt are similarly primarily an energized component

1207
00:47:23,203 --> 00:47:24,101
prior to to

1208
00:47:24,556 --> 00:47:26,228
initiation of the firing sequence,

1209
00:47:26,705 --> 00:47:27,422
blah blah blah.

1210
00:47:29,505 --> 00:47:33,242
The they're now recognizing frames as firearms.

1211
00:47:34,117 --> 00:47:36,105
This is something that has never been a

1212
00:47:36,105 --> 00:47:36,923
part of

1213
00:47:38,351 --> 00:47:39,549
mass general law,

1214
00:47:40,268 --> 00:47:42,444
but it had to go bang

1215
00:47:43,061 --> 00:47:44,339
in order to

1216
00:47:44,818 --> 00:47:46,095
be considered a firearm,

1217
00:47:46,748 --> 00:47:47,067
And

1218
00:47:47,624 --> 00:47:50,333
now that is not the case. So

1219
00:47:52,086 --> 00:47:54,556
so large capacity firearm, I don't know if

1220
00:47:54,556 --> 00:47:57,199
any changes are here. Is a semi automatic

1221
00:47:57,199 --> 00:47:58,097
with a large

1222
00:47:58,712 --> 00:47:59,190
capacity,

1223
00:47:59,588 --> 00:48:02,137
with a fixed large capacity feeding device.

1224
00:48:04,128 --> 00:48:04,367
Alright?

1225
00:48:05,099 --> 00:48:06,317
That's interesting large

1226
00:48:06,933 --> 00:48:10,862
capacity feeding device, a fixed or detachable magazine

1227
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:12,993
belt drum, feeds strip or similar device that

1228
00:48:12,993 --> 00:48:13,870
has a capacity,

1229
00:48:14,364 --> 00:48:16,434
of or that can be readily converted to

1230
00:48:16,434 --> 00:48:18,902
accept more than 10 rounds, via ammunition in

1231
00:48:18,902 --> 00:48:20,972
more than 5 shotgun shells or any part

1232
00:48:20,972 --> 00:48:22,428
or a combination of parts

1233
00:48:22,739 --> 00:48:24,494
from which a device can be assembled if

1234
00:48:24,494 --> 00:48:26,328
those parts are in possession or control the

1235
00:48:26,328 --> 00:48:26,887
same person.

1236
00:48:27,605 --> 00:48:30,157
Large capacity feeding device shall not include any

1237
00:48:30,157 --> 00:48:32,151
device that has been permanently altered so it

1238
00:48:32,151 --> 00:48:33,044
cannot accommodate.

1239
00:48:33,843 --> 00:48:34,003
Alright,

1240
00:48:34,722 --> 00:48:37,778
attached tubular device designed to accept and capable

1241
00:48:37,917 --> 00:48:39,435
operating with only 22 caliber,

1242
00:48:40,089 --> 00:48:42,242
rim fire or a tubular magazine that is

1243
00:48:42,242 --> 00:48:44,396
contained in a lever action firearm or on

1244
00:48:44,396 --> 00:48:45,193
a pump shotgun.

1245
00:48:47,826 --> 00:48:48,304
So

1246
00:48:51,105 --> 00:48:52,930
they're putting in this definition,

1247
00:48:53,565 --> 00:48:53,961
and

1248
00:48:55,548 --> 00:48:56,048
the

1249
00:48:56,501 --> 00:48:58,247
large capacity feeding device,

1250
00:48:59,057 --> 00:49:00,332
they now include fixed,

1251
00:49:01,049 --> 00:49:01,549
which

1252
00:49:01,926 --> 00:49:03,360
I don't know too many people if any,

1253
00:49:03,758 --> 00:49:06,786
whoever made a large capacity fixed feeding device.

1254
00:49:07,025 --> 00:49:07,822
That doesn't make sense.

1255
00:49:08,792 --> 00:49:11,198
But I wonder if this now includes

1256
00:49:11,969 --> 00:49:12,286
links.

1257
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:16,099
It doesn't specifically name links, but it says,

1258
00:49:17,545 --> 00:49:19,875
a detachable magazine belt

1259
00:49:20,568 --> 00:49:23,114
drum, feed strip or similar device.

1260
00:49:24,244 --> 00:49:26,398
So when you put them all together, is

1261
00:49:26,398 --> 00:49:26,957
it a belt.

1262
00:49:28,074 --> 00:49:29,431
When you link them all together,

1263
00:49:30,468 --> 00:49:32,237
I don't know. There are belt that are,

1264
00:49:32,317 --> 00:49:34,307
like cloth that you can slide the ammo

1265
00:49:34,307 --> 00:49:34,466
in,

1266
00:49:35,422 --> 00:49:35,922
but

1267
00:49:36,855 --> 00:49:38,128
I'm no lawyer. I just...

1268
00:49:40,689 --> 00:49:43,391
Have a street level observation of mass general

1269
00:49:43,391 --> 00:49:45,402
law, which leads me to

1270
00:49:45,776 --> 00:49:48,478
wanting to put hunting in my eyes and

1271
00:49:48,478 --> 00:49:48,978
laying

1272
00:49:49,369 --> 00:49:50,969
near a fire ant pit.

1273
00:49:53,769 --> 00:49:54,269
So

1274
00:49:55,289 --> 00:49:55,769
let's see.

1275
00:49:58,897 --> 00:50:00,730
Alright. I don't think there's anything else there.

1276
00:50:02,962 --> 00:50:05,010
Machine gun fire loaded or run loaded, which

1277
00:50:05,129 --> 00:50:07,436
may automatically discharge more than 1 shot.

1278
00:50:08,072 --> 00:50:10,140
I wonder if they're banning firearms that was

1279
00:50:10,140 --> 00:50:11,174
in the original bill,

1280
00:50:12,464 --> 00:50:13,364
excuse me, banning

1281
00:50:14,382 --> 00:50:14,941
machine guns.

1282
00:50:18,457 --> 00:50:20,375
Right now, they are lawful.

1283
00:50:21,189 --> 00:50:22,146
Alright. So I don't know.

1284
00:50:23,023 --> 00:50:25,095
It's a hundred and 11 pages folks will

1285
00:50:25,095 --> 00:50:26,052
have to get into it,

1286
00:50:27,726 --> 00:50:29,320
and we'll see what happens. There's...

1287
00:50:29,891 --> 00:50:31,423
All this stuff about un

1288
00:50:32,272 --> 00:50:32,748
undetectable,

1289
00:50:33,224 --> 00:50:36,820
unfinished frame or receiver, forging casting, printing, extrusion

1290
00:50:36,875 --> 00:50:39,275
machine, body or similar. Has reached the stage

1291
00:50:39,275 --> 00:50:41,767
and manufacture weight where it may be readily

1292
00:50:41,905 --> 00:50:44,375
completed or assembled to function as a frame

1293
00:50:44,375 --> 00:50:46,367
or receiver. Of course, there's no definition of

1294
00:50:46,367 --> 00:50:47,641
what readily assembled means.

1295
00:50:48,374 --> 00:50:50,452
Is marketed or sold to the public to

1296
00:50:50,452 --> 00:50:52,608
become or to be used as the frame

1297
00:50:52,608 --> 00:50:55,165
receiver of a functional firearm once completed or

1298
00:50:55,165 --> 00:50:55,619
assembled

1299
00:50:56,056 --> 00:50:58,358
provided, however, that unfinished frame receiver,

1300
00:50:58,913 --> 00:50:59,969
receiver shall not

1301
00:51:00,341 --> 00:51:02,881
include a component designed and intended for use

1302
00:51:02,881 --> 00:51:03,992
in an antique fire,

1303
00:51:04,483 --> 00:51:06,951
they love to clarify things. Right? They clear

1304
00:51:06,951 --> 00:51:09,099
it up as mud. But don't worry. It

1305
00:51:09,099 --> 00:51:10,554
doesn't include anti.

1306
00:51:13,338 --> 00:51:13,577
The...

1307
00:51:14,216 --> 00:51:16,373
I wonder if we can get antique parts

1308
00:51:16,373 --> 00:51:19,503
kits and make a a big frame or

1309
00:51:19,503 --> 00:51:21,259
receiver that we can attach anti antique barrels

1310
00:51:21,259 --> 00:51:23,595
and stocks do and make,

1311
00:51:24,532 --> 00:51:25,329
you know, legal,

1312
00:51:26,208 --> 00:51:27,186
large capacity

1313
00:51:27,739 --> 00:51:29,493
weapons with antique parts.

1314
00:51:30,689 --> 00:51:31,726
They probably wouldn't last long.

1315
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:34,995
But there's a bunch of I did read

1316
00:51:34,995 --> 00:51:36,724
a bunch of language already about

1317
00:51:37,084 --> 00:51:39,640
you can't have an un serial gun anymore.

1318
00:51:40,839 --> 00:51:42,756
You're gonna have to get a serial number

1319
00:51:42,756 --> 00:51:43,395
and engrave it.

1320
00:51:44,369 --> 00:51:45,748
There's real time

1321
00:51:46,127 --> 00:51:47,166
firearms reporting.

1322
00:51:47,726 --> 00:51:49,264
There's all this

1323
00:51:50,283 --> 00:51:53,695
access to the public now for transparency of

1324
00:51:54,214 --> 00:51:57,810
who knows? I'm sure that they'll accidentally reveal

1325
00:51:57,810 --> 00:51:59,648
who has what to whom someday,

1326
00:52:00,607 --> 00:52:02,525
but that's what that type of thing,

1327
00:52:03,336 --> 00:52:04,449
easily gonna be hacked.

1328
00:52:05,481 --> 00:52:08,420
And the registration is a big part of

1329
00:52:08,420 --> 00:52:08,579
this,

1330
00:52:09,850 --> 00:52:11,414
which I have a lawyer who's

1331
00:52:12,253 --> 00:52:14,351
said many times, that is the most

1332
00:52:14,890 --> 00:52:16,328
unconstitutional part of this is the fact that

1333
00:52:16,328 --> 00:52:18,905
they are requiring registration of firearms

1334
00:52:19,458 --> 00:52:21,709
and they wanna do it on a public

1335
00:52:22,483 --> 00:52:24,813
publicly accessible database and

1336
00:52:27,272 --> 00:52:29,812
Here you go. No person shall manufacturer or

1337
00:52:29,812 --> 00:52:31,820
assemble a privately made firearm

1338
00:52:32,273 --> 00:52:34,653
without obtaining a unique serial number from the

1339
00:52:34,812 --> 00:52:37,133
Department of Criminal Justice this information service.

1340
00:52:37,850 --> 00:52:41,433
Prior to manufacturer assembly, serial the firearm with

1341
00:52:41,433 --> 00:52:44,894
the obtained serial number during manufacturer assembly, and

1342
00:52:45,033 --> 00:52:46,948
registering the firearm with the Department of Criminal

1343
00:52:47,028 --> 00:52:48,486
Justice information services

1344
00:52:48,943 --> 00:52:50,162
in accordance with

1345
00:52:50,540 --> 00:52:52,716
section 01:21 b within 7 days

1346
00:52:53,109 --> 00:52:54,469
of the manufacturer's firearm,

1347
00:52:55,510 --> 00:52:56,630
manufacturer's assembly.

1348
00:52:57,829 --> 00:53:00,469
No person shall manufacturer assemble a privately made

1349
00:53:00,469 --> 00:53:02,170
firearm that does not comply

1350
00:53:02,483 --> 00:53:04,413
all relevant state and federal

1351
00:53:04,787 --> 00:53:04,946
regulations,

1352
00:53:05,900 --> 00:53:08,761
safety regulations. So that probably means that you

1353
00:53:08,761 --> 00:53:11,168
now have to manufacture guns that are

1354
00:53:12,514 --> 00:53:13,253
that are

1355
00:53:13,629 --> 00:53:16,178
also on the approved weapons roster.

1356
00:53:16,736 --> 00:53:18,192
So no longer getting

1357
00:53:18,728 --> 00:53:20,502
frames transferred in from

1358
00:53:20,815 --> 00:53:22,114
somebody else and,

1359
00:53:22,494 --> 00:53:22,815
you know,

1360
00:53:24,414 --> 00:53:26,094
transferred so that you can build the gun

1361
00:53:26,094 --> 00:53:27,614
in the privacy year of your own home,

1362
00:53:28,348 --> 00:53:30,502
and nope. Not doing that anymore.

1363
00:53:31,619 --> 00:53:33,214
This is so bad folks.

1364
00:53:35,128 --> 00:53:37,441
No person shall use a 3 dimensional printer,

1365
00:53:38,094 --> 00:53:40,641
or computer and an Numerical controlling milling machine

1366
00:53:40,641 --> 00:53:43,189
to manufacture assemble any firearm within the commonwealth,

1367
00:53:43,746 --> 00:53:46,468
without a valid firearms license to carry And,

1368
00:53:46,547 --> 00:53:48,217
of course, you're gonna need to be given

1369
00:53:48,217 --> 00:53:48,717
that

1370
00:53:49,967 --> 00:53:50,467
that

1371
00:53:50,842 --> 00:53:52,432
serial number ahead of time,

1372
00:53:54,753 --> 00:53:56,027
So let's see.

1373
00:53:57,858 --> 00:53:59,768
If this section shall not apply to 3

1374
00:53:59,768 --> 00:54:02,474
dimensional printers. Wait a minute. No person shelves.

1375
00:54:02,649 --> 00:54:05,592
Cell, offered to sell or transfer 3 dimensional

1376
00:54:05,592 --> 00:54:07,581
printer or computer numerical,

1377
00:54:08,297 --> 00:54:09,012
controlling machines,

1378
00:54:09,664 --> 00:54:12,615
that as the primary or intended function manufacturing

1379
00:54:12,615 --> 00:54:14,369
assembling firearms to any person in the commonwealth.

1380
00:54:14,688 --> 00:54:15,566
That's ridiculous.

1381
00:54:16,364 --> 00:54:19,289
3 d printer or computer numerical milling machine

1382
00:54:19,409 --> 00:54:19,809
primary.

1383
00:54:20,288 --> 00:54:23,244
Or intended function of manufacturing or assembling firearms

1384
00:54:23,244 --> 00:54:26,281
if the printer or machine is advertised marketed

1385
00:54:26,281 --> 00:54:29,795
or promoted, to manufacture assemble firearms regardless of

1386
00:54:29,795 --> 00:54:31,701
whether the printer or a machine is otherwise

1387
00:54:31,701 --> 00:54:32,677
described or classified.

1388
00:54:33,209 --> 00:54:35,353
It's having other functions as a general purpose

1389
00:54:35,353 --> 00:54:37,514
printer or a machine. So I'm sure that

1390
00:54:37,514 --> 00:54:38,310
will mean,

1391
00:54:40,141 --> 00:54:41,175
defense distributed,

1392
00:54:41,971 --> 00:54:44,541
ghost gunner is gonna be out

1393
00:54:45,076 --> 00:54:46,212
according to the masked

1394
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:47,716
legislature here.

1395
00:54:49,943 --> 00:54:51,773
It doesn't apply to,

1396
00:54:53,937 --> 00:54:56,327
obviously, law enforcement for the sole purpose of

1397
00:54:56,327 --> 00:54:57,385
their destruction

1398
00:54:57,841 --> 00:54:59,833
of weapons, blah blah blah,

1399
00:55:00,804 --> 00:55:03,059
A violation of this section shall be punishable

1400
00:55:03,117 --> 00:55:05,191
by imprisonment for not more than 1 year,

1401
00:55:05,430 --> 00:55:07,105
fine for 5000 dollars.

1402
00:55:07,823 --> 00:55:09,041
I'm sure following

1403
00:55:10,869 --> 00:55:12,166
you know, will be

1404
00:55:13,501 --> 00:55:14,378
all this is good.

1405
00:55:15,176 --> 00:55:17,808
Look at this. The following aggregate data on

1406
00:55:17,808 --> 00:55:20,574
the issuance of firearm licenses cards permits pursuant

1407
00:55:20,853 --> 00:55:21,091
section,

1408
00:55:21,726 --> 00:55:22,362
these sections,

1409
00:55:23,554 --> 00:55:26,731
the age gender race ethnicity and municipality of

1410
00:55:26,731 --> 00:55:28,796
applicants for a license to carry.

1411
00:55:29,447 --> 00:55:30,720
I wonder if this is gonna be like,

1412
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:32,016
the 1 in New Jersey

1413
00:55:32,391 --> 00:55:34,641
that will end up back firing on them

1414
00:55:34,777 --> 00:55:35,834
because the age

1415
00:55:36,780 --> 00:55:38,474
gender, race, ethnicity

1416
00:55:38,929 --> 00:55:41,792
municipality of individuals whose applications for license to

1417
00:55:41,792 --> 00:55:42,985
carry were denied.

1418
00:55:43,718 --> 00:55:45,314
So I guess we'll get to see how

1419
00:55:45,314 --> 00:55:47,868
racist Massachusetts is. We already know their anti

1420
00:55:47,868 --> 00:55:48,426
civil rights.

1421
00:55:49,065 --> 00:55:49,304
So,

1422
00:55:50,421 --> 00:55:50,581
anyway,

1423
00:55:51,474 --> 00:55:53,391
lot to go over guys, we don't have

1424
00:55:53,391 --> 00:55:54,031
time for it at all,

1425
00:55:55,230 --> 00:55:57,547
but there you have it. If you wanna

1426
00:55:57,547 --> 00:55:58,426
stay up forever.

1427
00:55:59,959 --> 00:56:00,938
It's gonna be

1428
00:56:02,274 --> 00:56:04,988
ridiculous. It's a crazy bill. We'll talk about

1429
00:56:04,988 --> 00:56:05,648
it more

1430
00:56:06,266 --> 00:56:08,581
with our panel of guests in the second

1431
00:56:08,581 --> 00:56:08,820
hour.

1432
00:56:10,271 --> 00:56:10,771
But

1433
00:56:11,228 --> 00:56:12,106
just insane.

1434
00:56:12,823 --> 00:56:13,142
And

1435
00:56:14,020 --> 00:56:15,716
I can't I can't

1436
00:56:16,094 --> 00:56:18,508
dream up a worse scenario

1437
00:56:19,537 --> 00:56:19,855
than,

1438
00:56:21,605 --> 00:56:22,718
what we have today,

1439
00:56:23,751 --> 00:56:25,444
it is just a an

1440
00:56:25,819 --> 00:56:26,319
abomination

1441
00:56:26,694 --> 00:56:27,194
and

1442
00:56:28,046 --> 00:56:28,523
frankly,

1443
00:56:29,494 --> 00:56:31,092
we should all be pissed off about it.

1444
00:56:31,572 --> 00:56:32,930
There's no question about it.

1445
00:56:34,129 --> 00:56:35,967
Alright. Let's get to the chat before we

1446
00:56:35,967 --> 00:56:37,326
go to the end of the hour here.

1447
00:56:39,492 --> 00:56:40,128
Let's see.

1448
00:56:41,797 --> 00:56:42,297
Po

1449
00:56:42,990 --> 00:56:45,853
politicians have their generic form style letters they

1450
00:56:45,853 --> 00:56:47,045
send back to you no matter what the

1451
00:56:47,045 --> 00:56:49,530
question is. It covers it. Yeah. No doubt

1452
00:56:49,530 --> 00:56:51,604
about it. Yeah. Tomorrow, we're gonna need a

1453
00:56:51,604 --> 00:56:53,438
road trip. Thank you for saying that, John.

1454
00:56:53,996 --> 00:56:56,230
We're gonna need Patriots. To be at the

1455
00:56:56,230 --> 00:56:57,666
state house tomorrow for this vote.

1456
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:00,480
Wearing in their shirts, we're bringing their signs.

1457
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:02,559
I don't know if the lead signs in,

1458
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:04,320
but, you know, roll them up, stick them

1459
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:04,960
in your pocket,

1460
00:57:05,533 --> 00:57:07,999
and this is really, really important.

1461
00:57:08,715 --> 00:57:09,987
I don't know that we're all gonna be

1462
00:57:09,987 --> 00:57:11,419
criminals yet, but

1463
00:57:12,373 --> 00:57:13,328
we'll see what happens.

1464
00:57:15,094 --> 00:57:17,822
It's... You're exactly right, Larry. It's tools

1465
00:57:18,277 --> 00:57:20,824
and a sheep deciding what's for dinner. Guess

1466
00:57:20,824 --> 00:57:21,778
who wins that 1.

1467
00:57:24,260 --> 00:57:25,554
Any comments

1468
00:57:27,916 --> 00:57:29,608
on the lower court ruling the

1469
00:57:30,062 --> 00:57:32,446
unconstitutional laws banning citizens 18 to 21 from

1470
00:57:32,446 --> 00:57:33,654
purchase. Singing public carry.

1471
00:57:34,847 --> 00:57:36,700
I haven't got a chance to really

1472
00:57:37,075 --> 00:57:39,063
dive into that. I know it's a massive

1473
00:57:39,063 --> 00:57:39,302
win,

1474
00:57:41,306 --> 00:57:42,601
I forget even what

1475
00:57:43,453 --> 00:57:44,170
jurisdiction it was.

1476
00:57:45,045 --> 00:57:46,397
Maybe you guys could help me out on

1477
00:57:46,397 --> 00:57:48,306
that, but I think it was a...

1478
00:57:49,118 --> 00:57:50,416
Might have been a fifth circuit

1479
00:57:50,873 --> 00:57:52,947
ruling. I I just can't remember. I did

1480
00:57:52,947 --> 00:57:53,585
read about it.

1481
00:57:54,621 --> 00:57:57,413
Maybe it's on Ammo land or bearing arms

1482
00:57:57,413 --> 00:57:59,578
or something like that, but I haven't got

1483
00:57:59,578 --> 00:58:01,748
a chance to dive into it because I'm

1484
00:58:02,123 --> 00:58:02,941
still so

1485
00:58:03,952 --> 00:58:04,588
still so

1486
00:58:05,860 --> 00:58:07,610
let's see if we can figure it out

1487
00:58:07,610 --> 00:58:08,087
real quick.

1488
00:58:09,375 --> 00:58:10,250
Oh, by the way,

1489
00:58:11,046 --> 00:58:12,182
the federal judge

1490
00:58:12,796 --> 00:58:13,296
rejected

1491
00:58:14,228 --> 00:58:17,251
the government's excuses for banning homemade liquor.

1492
00:58:18,140 --> 00:58:20,280
Which is not an en right.

1493
00:58:21,231 --> 00:58:23,608
We do know that it is since I

1494
00:58:23,608 --> 00:58:24,322
think the 20.

1495
00:58:25,289 --> 00:58:27,289
Third amendment or something like that. Right? Or

1496
00:58:27,289 --> 00:58:29,630
the 20 sixth amount. I can't remember which

1497
00:58:30,090 --> 00:58:33,150
granted your ability to buy alcohol again, but

1498
00:58:33,304 --> 00:58:35,320
it wasn't 1 of the original intended

1499
00:58:36,096 --> 00:58:38,329
en rights that you have the right to

1500
00:58:38,329 --> 00:58:40,562
buy alcohol, although you don't need to pan

1501
00:58:40,562 --> 00:58:42,716
everything down, you know, freedom is free.

1502
00:58:43,449 --> 00:58:47,302
But they ruled that self made spirits are

1503
00:58:48,557 --> 00:58:49,436
constitutional. You can do it.

1504
00:58:50,314 --> 00:58:51,671
So why the heck?

1505
00:58:52,483 --> 00:58:56,701
Can't we do homemade firearms, Right? Or quote

1506
00:58:56,701 --> 00:58:57,417
unquote guns.

1507
00:58:58,133 --> 00:59:00,224
That's more of a right than

1508
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:02,765
alcohol was for long time in this country.

1509
00:59:02,925 --> 00:59:05,475
Right? So anyway, that's something we were gonna

1510
00:59:05,475 --> 00:59:07,388
talk about till this blew up in our

1511
00:59:07,388 --> 00:59:07,547
face.

1512
00:59:08,663 --> 00:59:09,163
But

1513
00:59:09,954 --> 00:59:10,353
Yeah. The...

1514
00:59:11,390 --> 00:59:13,007
I don't remember where the

1515
00:59:14,342 --> 00:59:15,619
maybe you guys can help me out.

1516
00:59:19,059 --> 00:59:20,807
The 18 to 21 year olds.

1517
00:59:22,715 --> 00:59:24,384
I think it was the fifth circuit if

1518
00:59:24,463 --> 00:59:26,451
I don't, if I'm not mistaken. But anyway,

1519
00:59:27,105 --> 00:59:27,664
different day.

1520
00:59:28,385 --> 00:59:29,025
Great question.

1521
00:59:30,704 --> 00:59:32,304
Am I missing it are there increased gun

1522
00:59:32,304 --> 00:59:34,144
laws against actual criminals using guns.

1523
00:59:35,838 --> 00:59:38,150
Oh me and Larry. Thank you for that

1524
00:59:38,150 --> 00:59:38,628
moment of,

1525
00:59:39,903 --> 00:59:41,759
Levi here to a very

1526
00:59:42,215 --> 00:59:43,650
dark and ominous day.

1527
00:59:44,385 --> 00:59:46,885
That is awesome. I greatly

1528
00:59:47,585 --> 00:59:48,465
appreciate that comment,

1529
00:59:49,344 --> 00:59:50,224
because, you know,

1530
00:59:51,025 --> 00:59:52,005
that would be

1531
00:59:54,077 --> 00:59:56,231
that would be amazing. And, in case you

1532
00:59:56,231 --> 00:59:58,145
didn't see the goal podcast that they put

1533
00:59:58,145 --> 01:00:00,139
out a couple days ago about that.

1534
01:00:01,016 --> 01:00:03,032
They were actually in 1 of the meetings

1535
01:00:03,425 --> 01:00:05,184
and maybe Michael talk about this when we

1536
01:00:05,184 --> 01:00:07,265
have them on here in a second that,

1537
01:00:07,905 --> 01:00:09,985
the the politicians thought, there isn't really a

1538
01:00:09,985 --> 01:00:11,664
way to separate the good guys and the

1539
01:00:11,664 --> 01:00:12,144
bad guys.

1540
01:00:13,039 --> 01:00:14,637
Yeah, go figure. Alright.

1541
01:00:15,356 --> 01:00:17,454
Go to a quick break, and we will

1542
01:00:17,593 --> 01:00:19,292
be back on the other side

1543
01:00:20,150 --> 01:00:20,650
with

1544
01:00:21,123 --> 01:00:22,181
an exciting

1545
01:00:22,639 --> 01:00:24,313
panel of guest. We have Mike Harris and

1546
01:00:24,472 --> 01:00:26,705
Jason Guy joining us, and

1547
01:00:27,582 --> 01:00:29,177
we'll see if some of the other guys

1548
01:00:29,177 --> 01:00:30,030
join in, but

1549
01:00:30,869 --> 01:00:33,429
right now, we're gonna do a quick kind

1550
01:00:33,429 --> 01:00:35,349
of the week video and we'll be back

1551
01:00:35,349 --> 01:00:36,230
after this. So,

1552
01:00:37,110 --> 01:00:37,989
don't go away.

1553
01:00:38,803 --> 01:00:40,876
Time for another rapid fired, 1 of the

1554
01:00:40,876 --> 01:00:41,115
week.

1555
01:00:44,782 --> 01:00:46,137
This week's gonna of the week.

1556
01:00:47,585 --> 01:00:48,379
Is a mystery.

1557
01:00:49,094 --> 01:00:50,365
Even I don't know what it is.

1558
01:00:57,863 --> 01:01:00,756
That's right. I asked our general manager, Adam

1559
01:01:01,213 --> 01:01:03,526
to come up with a mystery bag.

1560
01:01:04,340 --> 01:01:05,780
This is a throwback to when we were

1561
01:01:05,780 --> 01:01:09,059
doing live streams during Covid, and everyone sitting

1562
01:01:09,059 --> 01:01:10,739
at home, board didn't know what to do

1563
01:01:10,739 --> 01:01:13,140
with themselves. So I just started putting some

1564
01:01:13,140 --> 01:01:14,353
mission 3 bags together,

1565
01:01:14,993 --> 01:01:17,710
jammed them full of cool stuff, knocked 10

1566
01:01:17,710 --> 01:01:19,228
percent off everything in the bag,

1567
01:01:19,788 --> 01:01:21,706
and people would buy them. I mean, they've

1568
01:01:21,706 --> 01:01:24,117
sold within seconds through The phone would ring.

1569
01:01:24,276 --> 01:01:25,790
Someone would be like, hey, a mystery bag

1570
01:01:25,790 --> 01:01:27,862
sold, and I'd say, wow, that's amazing. You

1571
01:01:27,862 --> 01:01:29,217
guys have a lot of trust in me

1572
01:01:29,217 --> 01:01:31,544
of my ability to pick stuff out. Well,

1573
01:01:31,703 --> 01:01:32,977
I have a lot of trust in my

1574
01:01:32,977 --> 01:01:34,889
general manager's ability to pick stuff out. He's

1575
01:01:34,889 --> 01:01:35,686
got great taste.

1576
01:01:36,402 --> 01:01:38,473
And I would say this bag, the 1

1577
01:01:38,473 --> 01:01:40,465
thing you obviously know is you get this.

1578
01:01:40,879 --> 01:01:41,778
Fox tactical

1579
01:01:42,156 --> 01:01:44,492
go bag, which is a very nice backpack

1580
01:01:44,551 --> 01:01:45,429
in and of itself.

1581
01:01:46,227 --> 01:01:48,143
And the only other thing I know about

1582
01:01:48,143 --> 01:01:49,875
it is you need to have a light

1583
01:01:49,994 --> 01:01:51,507
since to carry in order to buy it

1584
01:01:51,507 --> 01:01:52,860
if that you're in Massachusetts,

1585
01:01:53,418 --> 01:01:54,612
or it needs to be shipped to an

1586
01:01:55,010 --> 01:01:56,682
Nfl if somebody out of state buys it.

1587
01:01:57,160 --> 01:01:59,244
But I will say that everything in the

1588
01:01:59,244 --> 01:02:02,109
bag, including the bag is 10 percent off

1589
01:02:02,109 --> 01:02:03,245
just like we did

1590
01:02:03,780 --> 01:02:07,130
4 years ago. And I wouldn't worry too

1591
01:02:07,130 --> 01:02:09,190
too much about the content of what's in

1592
01:02:09,190 --> 01:02:11,567
this. All good stuff, all stuff you're gonna

1593
01:02:11,567 --> 01:02:12,517
need. It's...

1594
01:02:13,087 --> 01:02:16,443
Pretty neat, and I've never had someone disappointed

1595
01:02:16,736 --> 01:02:18,481
who's bought 1 of our mystery bags. So.

1596
01:02:18,878 --> 01:02:20,884
If you feeling in luck piece. And you're

1597
01:02:20,884 --> 01:02:22,562
feeling like taking a chance.

1598
01:02:23,121 --> 01:02:25,359
This bag is about 710

1599
01:02:25,359 --> 01:02:28,316
bucks total with all the content side. I

1600
01:02:28,316 --> 01:02:30,008
don't even know what they are. I can't

1601
01:02:30,008 --> 01:02:31,862
even begin to hint. But

1602
01:02:32,238 --> 01:02:32,876
wicked cool.

1603
01:02:33,991 --> 01:02:35,902
If you're feeling, like taking a gamble,

1604
01:02:36,460 --> 01:02:38,452
do it. Why not. Right? That's it.

1605
01:02:39,103 --> 01:02:40,849
It sounds like it's got some good stuff

1606
01:02:40,849 --> 01:02:43,070
in there and it's it's heavy, but

1607
01:02:44,021 --> 01:02:45,211
that's this week's it's gone of the week.

1608
01:02:45,449 --> 01:02:46,797
I don't know what's in it. So you're

1609
01:02:46,797 --> 01:02:49,035
gonna have... Trust us or trust Adam. If

1610
01:02:49,035 --> 01:02:51,495
you won't be disappointed. I promise. Go over

1611
01:02:51,495 --> 01:02:54,377
to rapid by a radio, scroll down to

1612
01:02:54,432 --> 01:02:55,782
kind of the week, click on it.

1613
01:02:56,432 --> 01:02:59,214
And use code G0W at checkout for a

1614
01:02:59,214 --> 01:03:01,201
very special savings during this week's kind of

1615
01:03:01,201 --> 01:03:02,473
the week. We'll just give it a call

1616
01:03:02,473 --> 01:03:04,460
at the shop. We'll take care. Thanks so

1617
01:03:04,460 --> 01:03:05,989
much for tuning in. And I'll see you

1618
01:03:05,989 --> 01:03:06,710
on Rapid fire.

1619
01:03:14,958 --> 01:03:17,504
Alright. Welcome back to rapid fire. You weekly

1620
01:03:17,504 --> 01:03:20,129
show all things guns freedom, second amendment and

1621
01:03:20,129 --> 01:03:20,845
self defense.

1622
01:03:21,812 --> 01:03:24,192
And I'm happy to have with us today,

1623
01:03:24,747 --> 01:03:27,523
a couple of great second amendment patriots.

1624
01:03:29,208 --> 01:03:31,994
Attorney Jason Guy, and Mike Harris from gun

1625
01:03:31,994 --> 01:03:34,939
owners action league, and Arlo, the wonder dog

1626
01:03:34,939 --> 01:03:36,690
here sleeping in the corner. I'm gonna try

1627
01:03:36,690 --> 01:03:37,588
to get him

1628
01:03:37,978 --> 01:03:39,172
say goodbye to Harlow. Awesome.

1629
01:03:40,048 --> 01:03:42,197
He's having a good time over here in

1630
01:03:42,197 --> 01:03:43,470
the morning. So,

1631
01:03:44,823 --> 01:03:47,072
anyway, it's good to laugh for a minute

1632
01:03:47,072 --> 01:03:49,230
before we get into the head butting nuance

1633
01:03:49,230 --> 01:03:49,889
of this

1634
01:03:51,467 --> 01:03:53,719
amazing bill that has dropped. It's which we

1635
01:03:53,719 --> 01:03:56,036
all knew was coming, like, a freight train

1636
01:03:56,036 --> 01:03:57,155
down the railroad tracks.

1637
01:03:57,795 --> 01:03:57,954
And,

1638
01:03:59,073 --> 01:04:00,512
guys, I just wanna thank you both for

1639
01:04:00,512 --> 01:04:02,844
being here today making yourselves available. Let's of

1640
01:04:02,844 --> 01:04:03,084
course.

1641
01:04:03,883 --> 01:04:04,383
Nice.

1642
01:04:04,921 --> 01:04:07,558
Start with Jason. What's your first initial reaction

1643
01:04:07,558 --> 01:04:08,218
to this

1644
01:04:09,396 --> 01:04:12,196
abomination? Sure. Well you're not gonna wanna hear

1645
01:04:12,196 --> 01:04:13,623
this. I think they probably it worse.

1646
01:04:14,971 --> 01:04:16,477
Agree a lot. It could've have been a

1647
01:04:16,477 --> 01:04:17,691
lot worse. Yeah

1648
01:04:18,554 --> 01:04:21,582
But there's definitely some land mines in here

1649
01:04:21,582 --> 01:04:23,096
that are gonna catch some people.

1650
01:04:23,972 --> 01:04:25,030
You know, I'm definitely...

1651
01:04:25,978 --> 01:04:27,803
You know, from my end of it concerned

1652
01:04:27,803 --> 01:04:28,517
about, you know,

1653
01:04:29,231 --> 01:04:31,215
potential clients, got guys that are out there,

1654
01:04:31,373 --> 01:04:32,508
they're gonna unknowingly...

1655
01:04:33,612 --> 01:04:34,112
Violate

1656
01:04:34,486 --> 01:04:35,998
a number of these provisions.

1657
01:04:37,509 --> 01:04:38,963
There are a couple of,

1658
01:04:39,418 --> 01:04:42,215
you know, little things in there that we

1659
01:04:42,215 --> 01:04:43,963
might actually like, but it all in all,

1660
01:04:44,757 --> 01:04:45,257
generally,

1661
01:04:45,789 --> 01:04:48,648
there's some serious problems here. Mh. Mh. Yeah.

1662
01:04:48,965 --> 01:04:49,124
And,

1663
01:04:50,414 --> 01:04:52,655
Mike, why don't we get your initial reaction

1664
01:04:52,655 --> 01:04:53,775
to this bill? I'm sure it's

1665
01:04:54,575 --> 01:04:57,135
you know, everything you've ever hoped and dreamed

1666
01:04:57,135 --> 01:04:59,861
of. Right? Yeah. I mean, it's it's it's

1667
01:04:59,861 --> 01:05:01,534
not the end of the world, but, you

1668
01:05:01,534 --> 01:05:01,693
know,

1669
01:05:02,489 --> 01:05:04,879
the... How many seals are there, 7. So

1670
01:05:04,879 --> 01:05:06,472
this is the sixth 1 opening up?

1671
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:10,473
You know, it's, like, like Jason said, I

1672
01:05:10,473 --> 01:05:11,909
mean there's a couple of things in here

1673
01:05:11,909 --> 01:05:12,568
that are

1674
01:05:13,743 --> 01:05:16,135
okay. I mean, there's there's some stuff about

1675
01:05:16,867 --> 01:05:17,686
non residents

1676
01:05:18,617 --> 01:05:20,845
and hunting and and caring and they kind

1677
01:05:20,845 --> 01:05:22,913
of go even further than. They kind of

1678
01:05:22,913 --> 01:05:25,719
a go even further than Fo in this

1679
01:05:25,719 --> 01:05:29,253
for transportation, but, you know, the assault weapons

1680
01:05:29,311 --> 01:05:32,046
stuff or I'm sorry. The assault style firearms

1681
01:05:32,599 --> 01:05:34,614
stuff is is an abomination

1682
01:05:35,869 --> 01:05:36,427
off the top.

1683
01:05:37,544 --> 01:05:39,639
And then, you know, there's

1684
01:05:40,016 --> 01:05:41,394
there's a whole bunch of,

1685
01:05:42,503 --> 01:05:43,613
like Jason said, there's a whole bunch of

1686
01:05:43,613 --> 01:05:45,437
land mines in this. 1 of the objections

1687
01:05:45,437 --> 01:05:48,291
that, you know, has offended me and my

1688
01:05:48,291 --> 01:05:50,090
sensibilities ability since the beginning, like

1689
01:05:51,007 --> 01:05:53,400
has been the fact that in order to

1690
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:55,154
get standing to challenge some of this stuff.

1691
01:05:55,713 --> 01:05:56,670
People could gonna have we could charge with

1692
01:05:56,670 --> 01:05:58,903
a crime and end up in in jail

1693
01:05:58,903 --> 01:06:01,147
for a while. It's it's that's not okay.

1694
01:06:02,179 --> 01:06:03,450
Yeah. That's something that

1695
01:06:04,006 --> 01:06:06,547
you know, everybody who... Everybody in the chat

1696
01:06:06,547 --> 01:06:08,136
is saying, you know, what can we do?

1697
01:06:08,295 --> 01:06:10,057
Can we sue? Can we do this I

1698
01:06:10,057 --> 01:06:12,042
said, yeah. It's a hundred and 11 page

1699
01:06:12,042 --> 01:06:14,504
bill? Yeah. How do you sue for a

1700
01:06:14,504 --> 01:06:16,512
hundred and 11 page... Like, you gotta show

1701
01:06:16,727 --> 01:06:19,764
your harmed. Right? Jason And it's... Exactly. It's

1702
01:06:19,764 --> 01:06:21,125
not even the fact that it's a hundred

1703
01:06:21,125 --> 01:06:23,464
and 11 pages. It's, you know, it affects,

1704
01:06:23,844 --> 01:06:26,724
you know, however, many sections of law in

1705
01:06:26,724 --> 01:06:28,380
different ways, and you have to figure out

1706
01:06:28,659 --> 01:06:30,732
outstanding for each 1 of those. Right. Alright.

1707
01:06:31,051 --> 01:06:31,290
So...

1708
01:06:31,928 --> 01:06:34,422
So our constitutional issues are arrays in each

1709
01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:37,431
each individual section too. So... Yeah. Mh.

1710
01:06:38,164 --> 01:06:40,164
Now 1 of the things someone in the

1711
01:06:40,164 --> 01:06:40,644
chat just

1712
01:06:41,204 --> 01:06:44,025
actually brought up was the the

1713
01:06:44,644 --> 01:06:46,820
the case last week that came down. I

1714
01:06:46,820 --> 01:06:48,340
think it was in the fifth circuit court

1715
01:06:48,340 --> 01:06:48,820
of appeals,

1716
01:06:49,940 --> 01:06:51,860
about the 18 to 21 year olds,

1717
01:06:53,313 --> 01:06:55,376
being able to buy a gun or whatever.

1718
01:06:55,535 --> 01:06:57,440
And and I I think it was for

1719
01:06:57,440 --> 01:07:00,059
semi automatic rifles like Ar 15 or something

1720
01:07:00,059 --> 01:07:00,377
like that,

1721
01:07:01,027 --> 01:07:03,435
And so they ruled that the law was

1722
01:07:03,889 --> 01:07:06,194
unconstitutional there. Obviously, it doesn't affect us here

1723
01:07:06,194 --> 01:07:07,148
in Massachusetts.

1724
01:07:08,023 --> 01:07:08,523
But

1725
01:07:09,474 --> 01:07:10,214
it's certainly

1726
01:07:12,355 --> 01:07:14,934
precedent right, that we could then challenge

1727
01:07:15,234 --> 01:07:18,295
the... This... The 1 section of this bill

1728
01:07:18,530 --> 01:07:19,510
that is really

1729
01:07:21,010 --> 01:07:23,010
setting 18 to 20 year olds into a

1730
01:07:23,010 --> 01:07:25,170
second class of society. They have the right

1731
01:07:25,170 --> 01:07:26,289
to vote. They have the right to serve

1732
01:07:26,289 --> 01:07:28,220
in the military. They can you know, carry

1733
01:07:28,220 --> 01:07:30,527
a gun for our nation, but yet here

1734
01:07:30,527 --> 01:07:32,833
in Massachusetts. They won't be able to eye

1735
01:07:32,833 --> 01:07:34,400
what gun they want as a

1736
01:07:34,917 --> 01:07:35,894
adult. So

1737
01:07:36,270 --> 01:07:37,964
do you think that that

1738
01:07:38,420 --> 01:07:40,331
precedent in another state would help or no?

1739
01:07:40,569 --> 01:07:42,241
Well, I think the fifth circuit gonna get

1740
01:07:42,241 --> 01:07:44,007
to this pro court before we ever will.

1741
01:07:44,405 --> 01:07:44,803
So...

1742
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:47,111
It's 1 of those things where, like, if

1743
01:07:47,111 --> 01:07:48,862
they're they're ahead of us, let them do

1744
01:07:48,862 --> 01:07:49,419
it, I guess.

1745
01:07:50,374 --> 01:07:52,179
And I think, honestly, I

1746
01:07:52,855 --> 01:07:53,966
that's 1 of the things that I think

1747
01:07:53,966 --> 01:07:56,269
the supreme court, frankly, I even the supreme

1748
01:07:56,269 --> 01:07:58,414
court, you know, scholar by any means, But

1749
01:07:58,494 --> 01:08:00,400
I think that that's something they're gonna ent

1750
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:01,614
when they're looking at

1751
01:08:02,481 --> 01:08:04,151
historical analog and, you know,

1752
01:08:04,947 --> 01:08:06,617
18 year olds as adults being able to

1753
01:08:06,617 --> 01:08:08,606
carry conventional alarms. So Right.

1754
01:08:09,898 --> 01:08:10,138
Now,

1755
01:08:12,934 --> 01:08:13,434
how

1756
01:08:13,893 --> 01:08:16,449
let's let's assume this the worst happens this...

1757
01:08:16,784 --> 01:08:19,022
Get signed into law tomorrow and sent to

1758
01:08:19,022 --> 01:08:21,979
the, governor's desk, which... I'm sure it's pretty

1759
01:08:21,979 --> 01:08:24,615
likely to happen. Yep. None of us, I

1760
01:08:24,615 --> 01:08:26,628
don't think are are you know, if you're

1761
01:08:26,628 --> 01:08:28,546
a realist, you you pretty much know what's

1762
01:08:28,546 --> 01:08:29,664
going gonna happen. But...

1763
01:08:31,502 --> 01:08:31,741
So,

1764
01:08:33,514 --> 01:08:35,908
is there a way to challenge this without

1765
01:08:35,908 --> 01:08:38,222
actually be being arrested or something like that?

1766
01:08:38,382 --> 01:08:39,440
Like Michael Car

1767
01:08:39,819 --> 01:08:40,935
with the bump stock ban?

1768
01:08:41,588 --> 01:08:44,295
He went and surrendered his 2 bump stocks

1769
01:08:44,295 --> 01:08:46,307
to the Atf under protest

1770
01:08:46,922 --> 01:08:49,962
and immediately filed a lawsuit and said, I

1771
01:08:49,962 --> 01:08:52,033
did it under protest so that I don't

1772
01:08:52,033 --> 01:08:54,265
get arrested and thrown in jail. Like, is

1773
01:08:54,265 --> 01:08:57,134
that a a legal strategy that could be

1774
01:08:57,134 --> 01:08:58,328
employed here in Massachusetts?

1775
01:09:00,412 --> 01:09:03,827
I'm gonna say it's kinda too early to

1776
01:09:03,827 --> 01:09:05,971
tell on how we're we're gonna approach it.

1777
01:09:06,210 --> 01:09:08,848
I've had conversations. Just briefly, but this bill

1778
01:09:08,848 --> 01:09:10,440
dropped what an hour ago. Yeah.

1779
01:09:11,315 --> 01:09:13,544
You know, not even. Yeah. And I mean,

1780
01:09:13,623 --> 01:09:15,533
it's hard to say right now that,

1781
01:09:16,488 --> 01:09:16,988
they're

1782
01:09:17,378 --> 01:09:19,286
you know, there is a way to challenge

1783
01:09:19,286 --> 01:09:22,067
it without some sort of. And really, like,

1784
01:09:22,305 --> 01:09:25,325
you know, are there taking here? Right are

1785
01:09:25,325 --> 01:09:25,825
there,

1786
01:09:26,372 --> 01:09:26,611
you know,

1787
01:09:27,563 --> 01:09:30,578
direct effects right now or or are these

1788
01:09:30,578 --> 01:09:33,197
kind of more constitutional questions that can be

1789
01:09:33,197 --> 01:09:34,626
addressed at a later day?

1790
01:09:35,994 --> 01:09:37,667
It's not clear yet. To be honest. Right?

1791
01:09:38,463 --> 01:09:41,671
Yeah. And and as a first cursor glance

1792
01:09:41,807 --> 01:09:43,240
of this, it looked to me, like,

1793
01:09:44,212 --> 01:09:44,531
Jason

1794
01:09:45,247 --> 01:09:47,080
the... And Mike, you were nodding in your

1795
01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:48,594
head that it could have been worse. So

1796
01:09:48,594 --> 01:09:49,970
it seems like there's some

1797
01:09:50,506 --> 01:09:52,975
provision in there for grant... True grandfather, not

1798
01:09:52,975 --> 01:09:54,908
just a legacy provision. Is that the way

1799
01:09:54,908 --> 01:09:55,467
you guys see it?

1800
01:09:56,986 --> 01:09:59,164
So I don't know if

1801
01:09:59,543 --> 01:10:01,461
so the... This version that we have right

1802
01:10:01,461 --> 01:10:03,080
now, I'm I'm told is not

1803
01:10:03,393 --> 01:10:03,893
the

1804
01:10:05,378 --> 01:10:07,784
actual finished version. So

1805
01:10:08,396 --> 01:10:10,779
I can't really speed just... I know. Right.

1806
01:10:11,017 --> 01:10:13,259
Of course. The whole process this thing.

1807
01:10:14,055 --> 01:10:16,209
Yeah. Oh, how many different numbers did it

1808
01:10:16,209 --> 01:10:17,644
have, But, anyway, oh I know. I know

1809
01:10:17,724 --> 01:10:20,037
I know. But... No... I'm I'm told this

1810
01:10:20,037 --> 01:10:21,813
is a working draft that somehow

1811
01:10:22,761 --> 01:10:23,953
squeak out of the conference committee.

1812
01:10:24,987 --> 01:10:26,520
And I... The

1813
01:10:27,371 --> 01:10:30,073
there is a... The the completed language is

1814
01:10:30,073 --> 01:10:30,630
still with,

1815
01:10:31,679 --> 01:10:34,149
house senate counsel, so they're still examining it.

1816
01:10:34,387 --> 01:10:35,264
So I I don't know.

1817
01:10:36,220 --> 01:10:38,792
There are some discrepancies between the official

1818
01:10:39,581 --> 01:10:41,492
Caucus summary that we got. That's up on

1819
01:10:41,492 --> 01:10:44,198
our website that everybody's seen and this version.

1820
01:10:44,438 --> 01:10:44,938
So,

1821
01:10:46,189 --> 01:10:46,507
you know,

1822
01:10:47,239 --> 01:10:49,157
take that with a a salt mine,

1823
01:10:50,756 --> 01:10:51,256
and,

1824
01:10:52,034 --> 01:10:52,354
you know,

1825
01:10:53,153 --> 01:10:55,390
decide, you know, once everything comes out, the

1826
01:10:55,390 --> 01:10:57,320
the final version comes out, my my apologies.

1827
01:10:58,672 --> 01:11:00,661
We'll see what it actually looks like. But

1828
01:11:00,661 --> 01:11:03,229
as of right now, this language only has

1829
01:11:04,180 --> 01:11:06,260
grandfather in clause back to July of 20

1830
01:11:06,260 --> 01:11:09,060
16. So... Right. Yeah. Toby, that's the. Like,

1831
01:11:09,300 --> 01:11:11,220
number 1 on my list of land mines.

1832
01:11:11,554 --> 01:11:13,412
Is that they're incorporating

1833
01:11:13,791 --> 01:11:16,188
the copy and duplicate fan of the 8...

1834
01:11:16,508 --> 01:11:18,446
Of the Ag enforcement notice

1835
01:11:19,078 --> 01:11:21,699
and they're setting it to the date it

1836
01:11:21,699 --> 01:11:22,199
was

1837
01:11:22,573 --> 01:11:23,368
issued. So,

1838
01:11:24,480 --> 01:11:24,798
you know,

1839
01:11:26,323 --> 01:11:28,558
there are people out there that have either

1840
01:11:28,558 --> 01:11:32,867
knowing or unknowingly purchased or built out weapons

1841
01:11:32,867 --> 01:11:33,766
that are now

1842
01:11:34,238 --> 01:11:36,645
go into the unlawful unless they were registered

1843
01:11:36,859 --> 01:11:37,654
before that date.

1844
01:11:38,289 --> 01:11:38,369
Yeah.

1845
01:11:39,403 --> 01:11:40,832
You know, and I can say... I mean,

1846
01:11:40,991 --> 01:11:42,715
I I think I mentioned this to you

1847
01:11:42,913 --> 01:11:46,496
privately Toby, I represent a gentleman that is

1848
01:11:46,496 --> 01:11:49,043
charged with a violation of that enforcement no

1849
01:11:49,043 --> 01:11:50,340
right now. So

1850
01:11:52,006 --> 01:11:54,239
it does look like, you know, number 1,

1851
01:11:54,479 --> 01:11:55,993
and I think you saw the dealer.

1852
01:11:56,552 --> 01:11:58,705
The the language about dealer inspections and now

1853
01:11:58,705 --> 01:12:00,794
the state police can take it over. Mh.

1854
01:12:01,432 --> 01:12:04,226
There are trainings on this, and now, you

1855
01:12:04,226 --> 01:12:06,143
know, they're gonna be looking at dealers. They

1856
01:12:06,143 --> 01:12:08,617
can trace those Fa tens back to whoever

1857
01:12:08,617 --> 01:12:11,823
purchases things at. And, you know, start knocking

1858
01:12:11,823 --> 01:12:13,578
on the doors. So I think people who

1859
01:12:13,578 --> 01:12:14,477
have these things

1860
01:12:15,412 --> 01:12:15,912
should

1861
01:12:16,689 --> 01:12:17,167
be careful.

1862
01:12:17,805 --> 01:12:19,321
Yeah. And and speaking,

1863
01:12:19,894 --> 01:12:21,797
to that in kind of an ancillary way.

1864
01:12:21,956 --> 01:12:25,471
I mean, that's that's the scary part of

1865
01:12:25,844 --> 01:12:27,669
a registry. That's what we're all afraid of.

1866
01:12:27,827 --> 01:12:30,632
And that's and they're using the word registry

1867
01:12:30,632 --> 01:12:32,887
in this. Yeah. It's it's just an

1868
01:12:33,424 --> 01:12:35,259
anymore. Yeah. They're not even hiding it. And

1869
01:12:35,259 --> 01:12:36,694
that's... And you know that that's the intent.

1870
01:12:36,854 --> 01:12:38,783
I mean, Jason, you explained it you explained

1871
01:12:38,783 --> 01:12:40,381
it a lot better than I could have.

1872
01:12:40,940 --> 01:12:41,440
That's

1873
01:12:41,819 --> 01:12:43,896
that's the point. That's what they're going for.

1874
01:12:44,056 --> 01:12:44,935
They're they're gonna be...

1875
01:12:45,744 --> 01:12:47,488
Using that registry to go back through those

1876
01:12:47,726 --> 01:12:48,860
Fa 10 forms and

1877
01:12:49,549 --> 01:12:51,768
figure out who has what and when they

1878
01:12:51,768 --> 01:12:53,531
had it and what they're gonna do with

1879
01:12:53,531 --> 01:12:55,842
it. But, I mean, like you said, I

1880
01:12:55,921 --> 01:12:57,197
I don't know if they're gonna jump right

1881
01:12:57,197 --> 01:12:59,507
off the bat and start going after people

1882
01:12:59,507 --> 01:13:00,007
criminal,

1883
01:13:00,478 --> 01:13:01,828
or if it's gonna become a problem for

1884
01:13:01,828 --> 01:13:04,051
you when you go and try to renew

1885
01:13:04,051 --> 01:13:06,274
your license or if you go and try

1886
01:13:06,274 --> 01:13:08,974
to, you know, purchase something else if that

1887
01:13:08,974 --> 01:13:09,212
becomes...

1888
01:13:09,864 --> 01:13:10,184
You know,

1889
01:13:11,143 --> 01:13:13,321
well, what of these things become a firearms

1890
01:13:13,699 --> 01:13:15,938
crime for the purposes of prohibition, you know?

1891
01:13:16,257 --> 01:13:18,390
Yeah. And so the thing that

1892
01:13:19,143 --> 01:13:21,283
ir me the most is the new definitions

1893
01:13:21,283 --> 01:13:22,868
of a assault firearm,

1894
01:13:23,345 --> 01:13:24,479
assault cell fire.

1895
01:13:24,930 --> 01:13:26,064
Right. Which

1896
01:13:26,372 --> 01:13:27,984
has some new features

1897
01:13:28,356 --> 01:13:29,649
that never before

1898
01:13:30,101 --> 01:13:32,800
we're there. We have thumb whole stocks. We

1899
01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:33,300
have

1900
01:13:34,403 --> 01:13:37,023
a, vertical 4 grip is now. But the

1901
01:13:37,023 --> 01:13:38,555
1 that really gets me

1902
01:13:38,928 --> 01:13:41,390
is the shroud that encircle the barrel either

1903
01:13:41,390 --> 01:13:43,630
in part or in full, keep your hand

1904
01:13:43,630 --> 01:13:46,253
from being burned while firing the weapon. Much

1905
01:13:46,253 --> 01:13:48,718
they all have. Yeah. Every single every single

1906
01:13:48,718 --> 01:13:51,356
gun... I mean, an 1 grand to has

1907
01:13:51,356 --> 01:13:53,976
has wood. Right on it. For christ's sake.

1908
01:13:54,453 --> 01:13:56,994
The am carb being, the m... The the

1909
01:13:57,153 --> 01:14:00,585
Rug ranch rifle. So my... Has you know,

1910
01:14:00,744 --> 01:14:02,582
it's still a 2 featured test. There was

1911
01:14:02,582 --> 01:14:04,421
talk originally about it going down to a

1912
01:14:04,421 --> 01:14:07,937
1 featured test, which would have definitely universally

1913
01:14:07,937 --> 01:14:10,769
banned all semi Toby. This this... That that

1914
01:14:11,467 --> 01:14:14,421
feature effectively makes it a 1 feature test.

1915
01:14:15,059 --> 01:14:17,453
Because they right. I mean, exactly. You're right.

1916
01:14:17,694 --> 01:14:20,179
That's a great point because if what gun

1917
01:14:20,179 --> 01:14:21,610
doesn't. I think I can think of like,

1918
01:14:21,770 --> 01:14:22,508
the Tn

1919
01:14:23,042 --> 01:14:23,542
arrow

1920
01:14:25,267 --> 01:14:27,176
take down rifle. Yeah. I mean it... It's

1921
01:14:27,176 --> 01:14:30,057
it's funny. That's massachusetts Yeah. I mean Massachusetts

1922
01:14:30,057 --> 01:14:32,555
and California are gonna be in competition now

1923
01:14:32,614 --> 01:14:35,890
for the most ridiculous looking compliant rifles. Right.

1924
01:14:36,302 --> 01:14:36,382
Yeah.

1925
01:14:38,127 --> 01:14:39,635
I imagine what it'll look like. It'll have,

1926
01:14:39,714 --> 01:14:41,935
like, the New York style stock, You know,

1927
01:14:42,252 --> 01:14:44,498
barrel shroud. I mean, they they want you

1928
01:14:44,498 --> 01:14:45,937
to shoot the gun without being able to

1929
01:14:45,937 --> 01:14:48,015
grip it. So be you're you're gonna you're

1930
01:14:48,015 --> 01:14:49,554
gonna have to sell Ar

1931
01:14:49,933 --> 01:14:52,810
with with an open barrel and oven mitt.

1932
01:14:53,304 --> 01:14:54,980
That'll be the new accessory. You'll love to

1933
01:14:54,980 --> 01:14:56,656
my oven mitt. I love that.

1934
01:14:58,012 --> 01:14:59,310
Alec like Ke oven

1935
01:15:00,007 --> 01:15:02,970
the beforehand. Yeah. That would be we're gonna

1936
01:15:02,970 --> 01:15:05,038
call it the mass game stand. The mask

1937
01:15:05,038 --> 01:15:06,868
the mass compliant for.

1938
01:15:07,345 --> 01:15:07,845
For

1939
01:15:08,858 --> 01:15:11,341
Oh, man, But that might... Once you hold

1940
01:15:11,341 --> 01:15:13,652
the gun, does it now be constructive,

1941
01:15:14,608 --> 01:15:14,846
you know,

1942
01:15:15,564 --> 01:15:18,033
application and build The vertical for, You know?

1943
01:15:18,273 --> 01:15:19,946
I I just love that all of these

1944
01:15:19,946 --> 01:15:20,239
and,

1945
01:15:20,994 --> 01:15:23,537
rules and and legislation that's they're starting to

1946
01:15:23,537 --> 01:15:26,716
prom gate are all about making firearms less

1947
01:15:26,716 --> 01:15:28,959
easy to control. New I think that's hilarious.

1948
01:15:29,198 --> 01:15:31,190
Yeah. We talked... In a really cynical crave

1949
01:15:31,190 --> 01:15:32,703
way. I think that's so funny. I just...

1950
01:15:32,863 --> 01:15:34,536
It's ridiculous me. We talked about that in

1951
01:15:34,536 --> 01:15:36,528
the first hour, how of 98, it was

1952
01:15:36,528 --> 01:15:39,488
all about... You know, consumer protection act, making

1953
01:15:39,488 --> 01:15:41,557
people safer by not being able to buy

1954
01:15:41,557 --> 01:15:43,626
guns that aren't safe for the public to

1955
01:15:43,626 --> 01:15:45,775
use. Like. And now we're like, we wanna

1956
01:15:45,775 --> 01:15:48,738
make sure they're, like, borderline reckless if you

1957
01:15:48,738 --> 01:15:51,288
use this gun, you know, be firing over

1958
01:15:51,288 --> 01:15:53,202
the be just because the barrel so hot.

1959
01:15:53,362 --> 01:15:53,520
Yeah.

1960
01:15:57,921 --> 01:15:59,356
So candidate are yeah.

1961
01:16:01,590 --> 01:16:03,823
But here's the concern I have about what

1962
01:16:03,823 --> 01:16:05,511
you just brought up, and I I didn't

1963
01:16:05,511 --> 01:16:06,944
read the whole bill, but in the summary,

1964
01:16:07,103 --> 01:16:09,013
it seemed like there was a grandfather provision

1965
01:16:09,013 --> 01:16:10,525
in the in the in the actual bill.

1966
01:16:10,685 --> 01:16:12,594
I couldn't find out which other than, like

1967
01:16:12,594 --> 01:16:15,577
you just pointed out the 07/20/2016.

1968
01:16:17,307 --> 01:16:21,791
Time date. How all be... Going 09/13/1994

1969
01:16:21,929 --> 01:16:24,000
still. So you're back to for that date.

1970
01:16:24,255 --> 01:16:27,054
Right. Right Right. But there's bill... There's guns

1971
01:16:27,054 --> 01:16:29,534
that have been sold since 07:20 16 that

1972
01:16:29,534 --> 01:16:31,215
aren't en on the ban.

1973
01:16:31,787 --> 01:16:34,572
But have those 2 features to them. Right?

1974
01:16:35,527 --> 01:16:36,981
They have a

1975
01:16:37,435 --> 01:16:37,833
shroud,

1976
01:16:38,644 --> 01:16:40,078
and they have a pistol grip and maybe

1977
01:16:40,078 --> 01:16:41,751
even have a vertical 4 grip and a

1978
01:16:41,751 --> 01:16:43,185
detachable bag so we're up, the 3 or

1979
01:16:43,185 --> 01:16:46,470
4 features pretty quick. Yeah. And or a

1980
01:16:46,470 --> 01:16:48,550
thumb stock or what about... You know, this...

1981
01:16:49,430 --> 01:16:50,869
So there was a lot of ways to

1982
01:16:50,869 --> 01:16:52,550
jump through the hoops and get kind of

1983
01:16:52,550 --> 01:16:54,170
around and still get what you wanted

1984
01:16:54,484 --> 01:16:55,760
it might not have been an Arr or

1985
01:16:55,760 --> 01:16:58,073
an ak, but it might have been, you

1986
01:16:58,073 --> 01:17:00,944
know, a Robinson Armament and X or a,

1987
01:17:01,104 --> 01:17:03,018
you know, a ta or something like that.

1988
01:17:03,257 --> 01:17:05,103
Where does that leave us with that. You

1989
01:17:05,103 --> 01:17:06,770
know, and what is the enforcement of that?

1990
01:17:07,167 --> 01:17:08,993
Like, if you you got the police knocking

1991
01:17:08,993 --> 01:17:10,343
in it your door show me the receipt

1992
01:17:10,343 --> 01:17:12,328
that you bought it prior to 07:20 16.

1993
01:17:12,725 --> 01:17:14,413
Give me a break. Yeah. Yeah.

1994
01:17:15,133 --> 01:17:17,530
Well, and, again, I think 07:20 16 is

1995
01:17:17,530 --> 01:17:18,429
just the copier

1996
01:17:18,808 --> 01:17:20,028
duplicate language

1997
01:17:20,486 --> 01:17:21,205
what. Right.

1998
01:17:22,257 --> 01:17:24,969
They're adding these new features, which, you know,

1999
01:17:25,128 --> 01:17:28,479
again, the features test was 09/13/1994.

2000
01:17:28,637 --> 01:17:30,871
And now they're adding you write the shroud.

2001
01:17:31,921 --> 01:17:33,832
Does that mean everything that was sold after

2002
01:17:33,832 --> 01:17:34,809
that date with

2003
01:17:35,582 --> 01:17:37,969
the shroud is now unlawful to possess? I,

2004
01:17:38,128 --> 01:17:38,447
you know,

2005
01:17:39,256 --> 01:17:42,197
hundred pages. I'm trying to figure out whether

2006
01:17:42,197 --> 01:17:44,979
there's a hidden grandfather clause on page 01:10

2007
01:17:44,979 --> 01:17:46,092
that I haven't gotten to yet.

2008
01:17:47,063 --> 01:17:49,697
There isn't. I. Isn't. Right. Yeah. I mean,

2009
01:17:50,016 --> 01:17:50,256
Yeah.

2010
01:17:51,135 --> 01:17:53,050
So I don't I don't know if they

2011
01:17:53,050 --> 01:17:55,205
thought this out and that may be...

2012
01:17:55,699 --> 01:17:57,953
You know, 1 of those, you know, preliminary

2013
01:17:58,091 --> 01:17:59,685
injunction type scenarios where,

2014
01:18:01,121 --> 01:18:03,614
you know, by changing the features, they're making,

2015
01:18:03,911 --> 01:18:05,063
you know, thousands

2016
01:18:05,754 --> 01:18:06,254
that

2017
01:18:07,024 --> 01:18:10,835
hundreds thousands of people keep possessing illegal things,

2018
01:18:11,470 --> 01:18:13,313
you know, And with know, by the way,

2019
01:18:13,551 --> 01:18:15,220
no way of getting rid of it. Like,

2020
01:18:15,380 --> 01:18:17,527
you know, other states have imposed these types

2021
01:18:17,527 --> 01:18:19,037
of things created a...

2022
01:18:20,720 --> 01:18:22,544
Time period in which you can now get

2023
01:18:22,544 --> 01:18:24,130
rid of these things. There's no way to

2024
01:18:24,130 --> 01:18:26,032
do that. So on the day signs, if

2025
01:18:26,032 --> 01:18:27,618
we're reading it the right way. And again,

2026
01:18:28,747 --> 01:18:30,024
you know, Mike and I both forth and

2027
01:18:30,024 --> 01:18:32,337
the site surely both, you know, we're trying

2028
01:18:32,337 --> 01:18:33,375
to bills real quick.

2029
01:18:34,093 --> 01:18:34,593
But

2030
01:18:35,703 --> 01:18:37,216
we may be missing something if we're meeting...

2031
01:18:37,455 --> 01:18:39,049
Reading it the way we think we're all

2032
01:18:39,049 --> 01:18:39,368
reading it.

2033
01:18:40,164 --> 01:18:41,519
You know, we're all gonna be phones in

2034
01:18:41,519 --> 01:18:44,237
a week. Right? Yeah. Right. There's a there's

2035
01:18:44,237 --> 01:18:46,562
a lot of this stuff. So the last

2036
01:18:47,253 --> 01:18:48,071
4 pages

2037
01:18:48,603 --> 01:18:50,746
from what I can see are all effective

2038
01:18:50,746 --> 01:18:50,984
dates.

2039
01:18:51,873 --> 01:18:54,346
And they're all, like, 6 months to 18

2040
01:18:54,346 --> 01:18:56,180
months out. So who the hell knows at

2041
01:18:56,180 --> 01:18:58,095
this point? I mean, I I think a

2042
01:18:58,095 --> 01:19:01,148
lot of that stuff is in there to

2043
01:19:04,177 --> 01:19:05,956
bump up against the

2044
01:19:06,654 --> 01:19:08,093
cases that are moving through this... That are

2045
01:19:08,093 --> 01:19:09,771
moving through the the federal courts at the

2046
01:19:09,771 --> 01:19:10,671
moment. So

2047
01:19:11,144 --> 01:19:14,413
we'll see, I guess, but it it's it's

2048
01:19:14,413 --> 01:19:15,791
bizarre. I mean, it it's

2049
01:19:16,328 --> 01:19:18,082
there's no wiggle room for a lot of

2050
01:19:18,082 --> 01:19:20,076
this stuff, and it's it's a

2051
01:19:21,208 --> 01:19:22,724
it's a real... It it feels like a

2052
01:19:22,724 --> 01:19:23,363
real Gotcha.

2053
01:19:24,001 --> 01:19:25,916
Yeah. I gotta show you guys something really

2054
01:19:25,916 --> 01:19:28,411
funny because you just talked about Jason how

2055
01:19:28,724 --> 01:19:30,716
tough to read a hundred and 11 pages

2056
01:19:30,716 --> 01:19:33,108
and you have good experience doing that, but,

2057
01:19:33,267 --> 01:19:34,782
no, just drop. Which makes you wonder how

2058
01:19:34,782 --> 01:19:36,615
they're gonna pass this thing tomorrow. Right? Right.

2059
01:19:36,774 --> 01:19:39,497
It's So I figured I'm cheat. I'd just

2060
01:19:39,497 --> 01:19:42,386
cheat. So I dumped it into chat Gp

2061
01:19:42,443 --> 01:19:44,274
and said is there a grandfather provision. And

2062
01:19:44,274 --> 01:19:46,045
look at what it tells me. The message

2063
01:19:46,045 --> 01:19:47,885
you submitted was way too long.

2064
01:19:48,445 --> 01:19:51,725
Please we will think get something shorter.

2065
01:19:52,284 --> 01:19:52,784
And

2066
01:19:53,579 --> 01:19:55,755
Even... It's too long for chad Gp.

2067
01:19:56,372 --> 01:19:59,725
We're in trouble. So oh, my lord. I

2068
01:19:59,725 --> 01:20:01,321
don't I don't think the speaker is as

2069
01:20:01,321 --> 01:20:03,409
smart as Tread. Gp. Who the hell knows?

2070
01:20:05,721 --> 01:20:08,272
You know, and Mike referenced, so they came

2071
01:20:08,272 --> 01:20:11,156
out with this caucus summary that Popped out

2072
01:20:11,156 --> 01:20:13,548
around noon time, I think today or 2

2073
01:20:13,548 --> 01:20:14,983
01:00 or 2. Thank you for that by

2074
01:20:14,983 --> 01:20:18,092
the way. Yeah. I no. Absolutely. So but

2075
01:20:18,092 --> 01:20:18,592
the

2076
01:20:19,381 --> 01:20:21,209
The thing is is that the... You just

2077
01:20:21,209 --> 01:20:23,196
said how the is gonna read this by

2078
01:20:23,196 --> 01:20:25,501
tomorrow. They're not. They're gonna read that caucus

2079
01:20:25,501 --> 01:20:27,010
summary, which, by the way,

2080
01:20:28,217 --> 01:20:30,364
is wrong in some places, I think and

2081
01:20:30,364 --> 01:20:31,421
just completely...

2082
01:20:32,113 --> 01:20:34,498
Exactly. Yeah. So... I mean, that... That's what

2083
01:20:34,498 --> 01:20:37,055
happened earlier on in this process when they

2084
01:20:37,055 --> 01:20:40,310
made their first... When you know, they made

2085
01:20:40,310 --> 01:20:42,214
his first overt chair to the Democratic Caucus,

2086
01:20:42,372 --> 01:20:43,801
they handed out the summary. And we got

2087
01:20:43,801 --> 01:20:45,909
a copy of it and we had already,

2088
01:20:46,050 --> 01:20:47,969
you know, we had already written hours, and

2089
01:20:47,969 --> 01:20:49,090
we went through and really like, what the

2090
01:20:49,090 --> 01:20:50,390
hell? This is

2091
01:20:51,090 --> 01:20:53,890
so misleading and and completely wrong in half

2092
01:20:53,890 --> 01:20:55,576
the in half the areas, and we... You

2093
01:20:55,576 --> 01:20:57,030
know, it was when we started had a

2094
01:20:57,087 --> 01:20:58,759
relationship with his office. And we called up

2095
01:20:58,759 --> 01:21:00,270
and we said, what what is this? This

2096
01:21:00,270 --> 01:21:02,260
is... Some of the stuff is completely backwards

2097
01:21:02,260 --> 01:21:04,921
and that was when we realized that

2098
01:21:05,294 --> 01:21:06,644
they had no idea what was in this...

2099
01:21:06,882 --> 01:21:09,049
In their their version of the bill. So

2100
01:21:09,264 --> 01:21:11,272
I I think this conference

2101
01:21:11,804 --> 01:21:12,304
they

2102
01:21:12,774 --> 01:21:14,452
Not to be a jerk. I think this

2103
01:21:14,452 --> 01:21:16,690
conference committee was the first real opportunity that

2104
01:21:16,850 --> 01:21:18,528
Mike Day had to read his own bill.

2105
01:21:19,487 --> 01:21:21,345
Sure. I'd actually guarantee.

2106
01:21:22,219 --> 01:21:23,818
Patrick has aid in his office,

2107
01:21:24,537 --> 01:21:25,676
was very confident

2108
01:21:26,215 --> 01:21:28,453
about certain language in his bill that wasn't

2109
01:21:28,453 --> 01:21:28,773
there.

2110
01:21:29,492 --> 01:21:32,382
Was wrote this. Yeah. We all know it

2111
01:21:32,382 --> 01:21:34,696
was the red codes. Sorry. Red shirts.

2112
01:21:35,493 --> 01:21:37,010
Are you you're right the first time. Yeah.

2113
01:21:38,446 --> 01:21:40,855
This is... I I wanna assure everyone that

2114
01:21:40,855 --> 01:21:43,248
there's 1 provision of this bill that it

2115
01:21:43,248 --> 01:21:46,042
doesn't affect, and I thought everyone would would

2116
01:21:46,042 --> 01:21:46,520
appreciate this.

2117
01:21:47,412 --> 01:21:49,400
And it says that this section shall not

2118
01:21:49,400 --> 01:21:52,264
apply to any of the following the lawful

2119
01:21:52,264 --> 01:21:53,537
defense of life and property,

2120
01:21:54,029 --> 01:21:56,502
any law enforcement officer acting in the discharge

2121
01:21:56,502 --> 01:21:59,155
of his duties, the discharge of blank cartridges

2122
01:21:59,214 --> 01:21:59,873
for theatrical,

2123
01:22:00,489 --> 01:22:03,441
athletic, ceremonial or a firing squad.

2124
01:22:05,288 --> 01:22:07,518
It doesn't affect the firing squads,

2125
01:22:08,634 --> 01:22:10,704
which I'd be all in favor of bringing

2126
01:22:10,704 --> 01:22:13,587
them back in messaging that. Right? Yeah The

2127
01:22:13,587 --> 01:22:14,623
only way that

2128
01:22:15,341 --> 01:22:15,841
the

2129
01:22:16,457 --> 01:22:20,225
the firing squad is coming back to Massachusetts

2130
01:22:20,761 --> 01:22:21,160
is if...

2131
01:22:21,891 --> 01:22:24,221
I would say the perfect storm would be

2132
01:22:24,358 --> 01:22:27,484
if we had a revolving cylinder shotgun

2133
01:22:27,939 --> 01:22:30,246
with a barrel less than 18 inches that

2134
01:22:30,246 --> 01:22:31,319
was integral

2135
01:22:31,695 --> 01:22:32,890
suppressed with a folding,

2136
01:22:33,768 --> 01:22:34,268
detachable,

2137
01:22:34,804 --> 01:22:37,036
stock or something to that effect. Yeah. It

2138
01:22:37,036 --> 01:22:39,204
would bring the firing squad back you know,

2139
01:22:39,444 --> 01:22:41,681
quicker than any the legislature would have a

2140
01:22:41,681 --> 01:22:42,181
special

2141
01:22:42,640 --> 01:22:45,038
summer session. They would come back from vacation

2142
01:22:45,038 --> 01:22:46,636
to enact it. Yeah And they would make

2143
01:22:46,636 --> 01:22:49,927
the execution exempt from, owning those, so they

2144
01:22:49,927 --> 01:22:50,966
could take a shoot you with us.

2145
01:22:51,685 --> 01:22:52,164
You with that.

2146
01:22:52,884 --> 01:22:53,203
Yes.

2147
01:22:54,721 --> 01:22:55,121
Unbelievable,

2148
01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:56,000
well,

2149
01:22:57,049 --> 01:22:58,717
I know this is a lot to digest,

2150
01:22:59,114 --> 01:22:59,432
and

2151
01:23:00,069 --> 01:23:01,998
we still aren't even through fully

2152
01:23:02,532 --> 01:23:03,032
digesting...

2153
01:23:03,899 --> 01:23:07,033
The existing mask gun law, which was extremely

2154
01:23:09,806 --> 01:23:12,121
arbitrary and capri and confusing,

2155
01:23:13,171 --> 01:23:14,203
Jason, what do you think?

2156
01:23:14,839 --> 01:23:16,983
Is there at a first glance Or any

2157
01:23:16,983 --> 01:23:18,888
of this? Do you think that there was

2158
01:23:18,888 --> 01:23:20,770
some things accomplished in this

2159
01:23:21,368 --> 01:23:23,622
simplifying or coordinating or the

2160
01:23:24,079 --> 01:23:26,313
efficiency of government to try to make things

2161
01:23:26,313 --> 01:23:28,148
better? Or do you think this just makes

2162
01:23:28,148 --> 01:23:30,061
it 10 times worse? Or, you know, is

2163
01:23:30,061 --> 01:23:30,755
there gonna be

2164
01:23:31,590 --> 01:23:34,215
some things that now are clear that weren't

2165
01:23:34,215 --> 01:23:36,203
prior to at a first glance?

2166
01:23:36,920 --> 01:23:40,118
No. Well, so from a government efficiency, standpoint,

2167
01:23:40,278 --> 01:23:42,831
I see really no government efficiency. There's no

2168
01:23:42,831 --> 01:23:45,565
savings here. In fact, there is a a

2169
01:23:45,943 --> 01:23:46,443
complete

2170
01:23:47,394 --> 01:23:49,332
workload dump on

2171
01:23:50,270 --> 01:23:51,889
department of criminal justice information

2172
01:23:52,507 --> 01:23:54,265
Right. Which, you know, you know, I used

2173
01:23:54,265 --> 01:23:56,905
to you know, be over there. They have

2174
01:23:56,905 --> 01:23:58,654
no they have no staff. I mean, they

2175
01:23:58,654 --> 01:24:00,403
literally have no staff. They're not allowed to

2176
01:24:00,403 --> 01:24:02,413
hire new staff as a hiring freeze

2177
01:24:02,722 --> 01:24:05,028
They now have to create a registration system,

2178
01:24:05,187 --> 01:24:07,015
a new online system,

2179
01:24:08,128 --> 01:24:09,185
you know, a magazine

2180
01:24:09,798 --> 01:24:11,387
registration serial system.

2181
01:24:12,119 --> 01:24:12,359
Yeah.

2182
01:24:13,239 --> 01:24:14,439
I don't know how they're gonna do it,

2183
01:24:14,600 --> 01:24:16,840
manage it or, you know, even if they're

2184
01:24:16,840 --> 01:24:19,000
able to get outside contractors to do it.

2185
01:24:19,493 --> 01:24:21,006
When you have a question, Toby, and you

2186
01:24:21,006 --> 01:24:21,962
need to call someone,

2187
01:24:22,917 --> 01:24:24,588
they're not gonna have a person or be

2188
01:24:24,588 --> 01:24:26,500
able to help you. And people... Things are

2189
01:24:26,500 --> 01:24:28,505
just gonna get logged. There. The police aren't

2190
01:24:28,505 --> 01:24:31,213
gonna understand it. They're gonna call seizures. You're

2191
01:24:31,213 --> 01:24:32,886
not gonna understand it. You're gonna call seizures.

2192
01:24:33,284 --> 01:24:35,514
It's gonna be an absolute log jam, and

2193
01:24:35,514 --> 01:24:37,204
it's gonna be a nightmare. And So no

2194
01:24:37,204 --> 01:24:39,122
government... I don't see government efficiency. I don't

2195
01:24:39,122 --> 01:24:41,918
see anything getting done quicker or easier or

2196
01:24:41,918 --> 01:24:42,398
faster,

2197
01:24:43,756 --> 01:24:45,275
in any way, quite frankly. Mh.

2198
01:24:46,486 --> 01:24:48,080
And then, you know, there's a couple of

2199
01:24:48,080 --> 01:24:49,833
other land lines if if you guys don't

2200
01:24:49,833 --> 01:24:52,544
mind that I definitely leave know, caught.

2201
01:24:53,993 --> 01:24:56,145
And I know Toby you were lobbying your

2202
01:24:56,145 --> 01:24:57,659
legislators is 1 of the things that I

2203
01:24:57,659 --> 01:24:58,159
was,

2204
01:24:58,615 --> 01:25:00,608
you know, my focus whenever I talked to

2205
01:25:00,608 --> 01:25:01,166
someone about.

2206
01:25:01,817 --> 01:25:02,951
Was the

2207
01:25:03,640 --> 01:25:06,494
expansion of who can file for a red

2208
01:25:06,494 --> 01:25:07,208
flag petition?

2209
01:25:08,080 --> 01:25:08,580
So

2210
01:25:09,681 --> 01:25:12,141
the ex... And every 1 I talked to

2211
01:25:12,141 --> 01:25:13,650
was, like, yeah. We understand what you're saying,

2212
01:25:13,809 --> 01:25:14,309
but

2213
01:25:14,841 --> 01:25:15,158
too bad.

2214
01:25:16,110 --> 01:25:19,228
The expansion now includes you know, among other

2215
01:25:19,228 --> 01:25:21,145
things, a mental health counselor,

2216
01:25:21,545 --> 01:25:22,844
a marriage counselor,

2217
01:25:23,702 --> 01:25:25,220
a substance to counselor.

2218
01:25:25,715 --> 01:25:28,271
So Mh, you know, you're having trouble. You

2219
01:25:28,271 --> 01:25:30,590
know, you're having you're drinking too much. You're...

2220
01:25:32,028 --> 01:25:33,865
You know, you you're going through a tough

2221
01:25:33,865 --> 01:25:35,399
time in your marriage and you wanna sit

2222
01:25:35,399 --> 01:25:37,234
down with a marriage counsel and kinda work

2223
01:25:37,234 --> 01:25:39,388
it out. You know, you know, you just...

2224
01:25:39,627 --> 01:25:41,302
You know, your father died, and you wanna

2225
01:25:41,302 --> 01:25:43,389
talk to somebody about it, sit those people

2226
01:25:43,389 --> 01:25:45,613
are now people who can now report you

2227
01:25:45,613 --> 01:25:47,439
to the court and have your guns taken

2228
01:25:47,439 --> 01:25:47,916
away. Right?

2229
01:25:48,710 --> 01:25:51,489
This statute empowers that. It's basically telling gun

2230
01:25:51,489 --> 01:25:51,728
owners,

2231
01:25:52,458 --> 01:25:54,207
If you having problems, keep it to yourself.

2232
01:25:54,604 --> 01:25:54,762
Like,

2233
01:25:55,716 --> 01:25:57,386
I don't think that's what we want. Any

2234
01:25:57,386 --> 01:26:00,341
no policy perspective. It's troubling. Right?

2235
01:26:02,247 --> 01:26:04,232
There's now a section 12 database.

2236
01:26:04,867 --> 01:26:07,249
So I'm seeing this all the time where

2237
01:26:07,249 --> 01:26:07,749
people,

2238
01:26:08,122 --> 01:26:09,020
you know, have,

2239
01:26:09,567 --> 01:26:10,838
you know, they get in a fight with

2240
01:26:10,838 --> 01:26:12,984
their spouse and, like, I I wish I

2241
01:26:12,984 --> 01:26:14,891
was dead rather than marrying you. You know,

2242
01:26:15,050 --> 01:26:15,550
hyper.

2243
01:26:16,894 --> 01:26:18,489
Police are called they come though, like, oh,

2244
01:26:18,569 --> 01:26:20,085
you wish you were dead off to the

2245
01:26:20,085 --> 01:26:20,882
hospital you go.

2246
01:26:21,839 --> 01:26:23,833
That's not gonna be a database that all

2247
01:26:23,833 --> 01:26:25,827
licensing authorities are gonna be able to use

2248
01:26:25,827 --> 01:26:28,069
to determine your suit ability for a license.

2249
01:26:28,386 --> 01:26:29,681
It's gonna be cross

2250
01:26:30,055 --> 01:26:31,962
jurisdiction, So maybe you're suitable in 1 town.

2251
01:26:32,199 --> 01:26:33,868
Now you're gonna be un suitable in another

2252
01:26:33,868 --> 01:26:35,060
town if you move. Right.

2253
01:26:36,331 --> 01:26:36,465
To

2254
01:26:37,704 --> 01:26:38,444
they are

2255
01:26:38,824 --> 01:26:39,324
requiring

2256
01:26:39,704 --> 01:26:42,604
all firearms to be serial and registered,

2257
01:26:43,385 --> 01:26:45,760
which we talked about a little bit, but

2258
01:26:46,037 --> 01:26:46,537
for,

2259
01:26:46,993 --> 01:26:47,310
you know,

2260
01:26:48,504 --> 01:26:49,004
Eons,

2261
01:26:50,095 --> 01:26:52,903
people were told if you moved into Massachusetts

2262
01:26:53,134 --> 01:26:55,360
from another state and brought your collection with

2263
01:26:55,360 --> 01:26:57,665
you, you didn't need to register those weapons.

2264
01:26:58,063 --> 01:27:00,765
Right. Well, this statute is now saying otherwise.

2265
01:27:01,338 --> 01:27:03,572
And so, you know, imagine you moved here

2266
01:27:03,572 --> 01:27:06,363
20 years ago from New Hampshire. And, you

2267
01:27:06,363 --> 01:27:07,799
know, you're not a big gun guy. Maybe

2268
01:27:07,799 --> 01:27:08,916
you go... Went to the range a little

2269
01:27:08,916 --> 01:27:10,591
bit. You're getting older now. You don't go.

2270
01:27:11,004 --> 01:27:12,443
Those guns are in your closet, they're not

2271
01:27:12,443 --> 01:27:15,319
registered. There's no grandfather clause. There's no nothing.

2272
01:27:15,479 --> 01:27:16,139
It's just

2273
01:27:17,317 --> 01:27:18,914
they're illegal because they're not registered.

2274
01:27:20,443 --> 01:27:22,274
Look, people are all gonna have to be

2275
01:27:22,274 --> 01:27:23,388
scrambling through their closet,

2276
01:27:24,025 --> 01:27:25,855
registering things. You know, you got a frame

2277
01:27:25,855 --> 01:27:26,492
or, you know,

2278
01:27:27,224 --> 01:27:28,580
you know, lower in your closet, You're gonna

2279
01:27:28,580 --> 01:27:30,414
have to register those things. Yeah. And that's

2280
01:27:30,414 --> 01:27:32,249
that's another that's another land mine. People who

2281
01:27:32,249 --> 01:27:34,083
had purchased a bunch of stuff because,

2282
01:27:34,801 --> 01:27:36,817
until this bill, and on

2283
01:27:37,368 --> 01:27:39,386
a firearm is not considered a firearm messages

2284
01:27:39,444 --> 01:27:42,579
until it can fire shot. So most people

2285
01:27:42,797 --> 01:27:45,193
who purchased, you know, frames or receivers or

2286
01:27:45,193 --> 01:27:47,683
something. They just have them. Yeah. And they're

2287
01:27:47,683 --> 01:27:49,760
not on Not even way to register them.

2288
01:27:50,160 --> 01:27:53,756
Exactly. So so they're... That's a whole pile

2289
01:27:53,756 --> 01:27:53,915
of.

2290
01:27:54,726 --> 01:27:56,635
Plastic and metal that's just gonna have to

2291
01:27:56,635 --> 01:27:57,430
go in a dumpster.

2292
01:27:58,065 --> 01:27:59,895
Right. Yeah. I And those people might not

2293
01:27:59,895 --> 01:28:01,882
have licenses. They may not have a multi.

2294
01:28:02,121 --> 01:28:04,123
Maybe they brought them from maine or you

2295
01:28:04,123 --> 01:28:06,036
know, they they, you know, bought up mode

2296
01:28:06,036 --> 01:28:07,550
somewhere along the lines. They don't have a

2297
01:28:07,550 --> 01:28:10,439
license of carrier. You you know? Fell. And

2298
01:28:10,816 --> 01:28:12,887
if you'll if you'll permit me a moment.

2299
01:28:13,126 --> 01:28:13,939
III

2300
01:28:13,939 --> 01:28:14,518
found a

2301
01:28:15,294 --> 01:28:15,794
Jim

2302
01:28:16,330 --> 01:28:18,164
Jim Wallace, our executive director of Goal,

2303
01:28:18,881 --> 01:28:20,476
found a a provision early on. I he

2304
01:28:20,476 --> 01:28:21,990
didn't mention what section it was in, but

2305
01:28:22,882 --> 01:28:23,677
Right now, it's...

2306
01:28:25,188 --> 01:28:27,733
The the personal information of firearms owners in

2307
01:28:27,733 --> 01:28:28,766
masters is protected.

2308
01:28:29,403 --> 01:28:32,050
This bill eliminates that. It makes all

2309
01:28:32,678 --> 01:28:33,817
it makes everyone's

2310
01:28:34,752 --> 01:28:36,768
information public. If you wanna gun, your

2311
01:28:37,225 --> 01:28:39,697
your information is public now. So that's that's

2312
01:28:39,697 --> 01:28:41,133
a big 1. I think that might be

2313
01:28:41,133 --> 01:28:41,952
1 of the

2314
01:28:42,424 --> 01:28:43,856
1 of the more crucial things we need

2315
01:28:43,856 --> 01:28:45,710
to attack first, but,

2316
01:28:46,404 --> 01:28:48,632
you know, beyond that, there's there's a ton

2317
01:28:48,632 --> 01:28:50,795
of other... Case or on... I thought there

2318
01:28:50,795 --> 01:28:53,997
was litigation regarding that in another state from

2319
01:28:54,053 --> 01:28:55,802
maybe 1 or 2 years ago, that I

2320
01:28:55,802 --> 01:28:57,868
recall maybe New York, some other state where

2321
01:28:57,868 --> 01:28:59,220
that became an issue. I'd...

2322
01:29:00,194 --> 01:29:02,271
Yeah. I think it was, like, Connecticut or

2323
01:29:02,271 --> 01:29:05,547
someone docs like, every citizen in state, you

2324
01:29:05,547 --> 01:29:08,918
know, is, like, state sponsored do to... Basically

2325
01:29:08,918 --> 01:29:10,993
say, you only gone to state you're... You

2326
01:29:10,993 --> 01:29:12,750
know, here you here you are. Here's what

2327
01:29:12,750 --> 01:29:14,426
you got. And here's where you live. So

2328
01:29:14,426 --> 01:29:15,943
if you guys remember... If you guys remember

2329
01:29:15,943 --> 01:29:17,354
last year, they did this

2330
01:29:17,795 --> 01:29:18,835
already by accident.

2331
01:29:19,475 --> 01:29:21,234
They sent it out to a bunch of

2332
01:29:21,234 --> 01:29:21,734
media

2333
01:29:23,154 --> 01:29:24,994
organizations. And then, you know, everybody could go

2334
01:29:24,994 --> 01:29:26,837
back and then they redacted all the names

2335
01:29:26,837 --> 01:29:28,662
after we put up a stink about it.

2336
01:29:29,059 --> 01:29:29,718
And then

2337
01:29:30,488 --> 01:29:31,917
if you went through it, everyone was saying,

2338
01:29:31,996 --> 01:29:33,663
like, oh, I found myself. I found my

2339
01:29:33,663 --> 01:29:35,899
buddy, Found my my neighbor. I found my

2340
01:29:35,899 --> 01:29:37,406
dad just by, you know,

2341
01:29:38,436 --> 01:29:40,737
tracking and and connecting all the transactions with

2342
01:29:40,737 --> 01:29:43,851
your your, like, found your anonymous pin number.

2343
01:29:44,966 --> 01:29:46,717
That they assigned you. But in... You know,

2344
01:29:47,194 --> 01:29:48,787
now that's not even gonna be a, a

2345
01:29:48,787 --> 01:29:49,981
worry for them at this point,

2346
01:29:50,873 --> 01:29:52,948
you know, unless we can, you know, do

2347
01:29:52,948 --> 01:29:54,784
something about that or use a precedent. But,

2348
01:29:55,902 --> 01:29:57,339
another aspect of this that that a lot

2349
01:29:57,339 --> 01:29:59,390
of people don't really realize is

2350
01:30:01,430 --> 01:30:03,989
even with all of the the new workload

2351
01:30:03,989 --> 01:30:05,930
and everything that is put on on

2352
01:30:06,710 --> 01:30:07,829
on Cgi and everything.

2353
01:30:09,754 --> 01:30:12,137
None of this stuff is attached to 2

2354
01:30:12,137 --> 01:30:12,774
a line item.

2355
01:30:13,408 --> 01:30:14,306
And is therefore,

2356
01:30:15,157 --> 01:30:16,667
essentially not really funded.

2357
01:30:17,797 --> 01:30:20,109
For for those who don't know, in Massachusetts

2358
01:30:20,109 --> 01:30:22,183
the governor has the power of the line

2359
01:30:22,183 --> 01:30:24,177
item veto. So in a, in a long...

2360
01:30:24,336 --> 01:30:25,692
In a bill like this or, you know,

2361
01:30:25,771 --> 01:30:27,773
in any bill if you attach a specific

2362
01:30:27,931 --> 01:30:30,865
of specific funding source to a provision in

2363
01:30:30,865 --> 01:30:31,896
a piece of legislation,

2364
01:30:33,007 --> 01:30:35,010
the governor can go through and and scratch

2365
01:30:35,010 --> 01:30:36,289
that out. So this is this is a...

2366
01:30:36,449 --> 01:30:38,210
This was a symptom of the 20 14

2367
01:30:38,210 --> 01:30:40,210
bill that we brought up time and time

2368
01:30:40,210 --> 01:30:41,984
again when we were talking about how know,

2369
01:30:42,144 --> 01:30:43,180
there's a whole bunch of stuff from 10

2370
01:30:43,180 --> 01:30:44,774
years ago, that was never implemented and why

2371
01:30:44,774 --> 01:30:47,028
wasn't that done, and it was because

2372
01:30:47,564 --> 01:30:49,477
if there's no funding source attached to it,

2373
01:30:50,034 --> 01:30:52,599
you the executive branch doesn't really have to

2374
01:30:52,599 --> 01:30:52,917
fund it.

2375
01:30:53,714 --> 01:30:54,829
You know, you can write all the laws

2376
01:30:54,829 --> 01:30:56,184
you want, you can put as much as

2377
01:30:56,184 --> 01:30:57,537
many words on the books as you can.

2378
01:30:58,255 --> 01:30:59,312
But if there's no

2379
01:30:59,944 --> 01:31:02,580
way to fund it or any funds there

2380
01:31:02,580 --> 01:31:04,259
to enforce it, it's not gonna get done,

2381
01:31:05,377 --> 01:31:06,356
especially if you have

2382
01:31:07,389 --> 01:31:07,708
you know,

2383
01:31:08,587 --> 01:31:10,685
something that's a little bit of a political

2384
01:31:10,745 --> 01:31:10,905
football,

2385
01:31:11,944 --> 01:31:14,181
the governor's gonna go to the the secretary

2386
01:31:14,181 --> 01:31:16,988
of of administration and finance, They're like, we'll

2387
01:31:16,988 --> 01:31:19,215
knock that down in the priorities list, things

2388
01:31:19,215 --> 01:31:21,840
like that. So so that's that's another thing

2389
01:31:21,840 --> 01:31:23,272
when you look through this bill, if you

2390
01:31:23,272 --> 01:31:25,436
if you look at all of the... Reporting

2391
01:31:25,436 --> 01:31:27,190
requirements and all these, you know,

2392
01:31:28,067 --> 01:31:29,342
all these lists and things that they need

2393
01:31:29,342 --> 01:31:30,298
to put together in data.

2394
01:31:31,095 --> 01:31:32,073
There's no funding

2395
01:31:32,944 --> 01:31:34,620
this no extra funding provided for them to

2396
01:31:34,620 --> 01:31:36,695
do that. And now it was, like, a

2397
01:31:36,695 --> 01:31:38,712
rule a 10 or rule

2398
01:31:39,728 --> 01:31:41,817
13 or something like that. Something like I

2399
01:31:41,817 --> 01:31:43,567
remember when they voted on this bill originally

2400
01:31:43,567 --> 01:31:44,067
in

2401
01:31:45,000 --> 01:31:45,636
in the house,

2402
01:31:46,511 --> 01:31:48,739
there was somebody who raised an argument and

2403
01:31:48,739 --> 01:31:50,824
said, you know, we Jones Yeah. Like, Yeah.

2404
01:31:51,224 --> 01:31:52,981
We have a rule here that you can't,

2405
01:31:53,940 --> 01:31:56,257
pass an un funded mandate. Like, it has

2406
01:31:56,257 --> 01:31:56,817
to be funded.

2407
01:31:57,696 --> 01:32:00,417
And then it with. Exactly. But that was

2408
01:32:00,417 --> 01:32:01,076
why they

2409
01:32:01,767 --> 01:32:04,627
suspended the rule. Yeah. Exactly. But that was

2410
01:32:04,627 --> 01:32:06,533
that was another symptom of of the way

2411
01:32:06,533 --> 01:32:07,963
that they they went about this. I mean,

2412
01:32:08,042 --> 01:32:10,550
you know, they called a special hearing

2413
01:32:11,087 --> 01:32:11,405
for,

2414
01:32:12,363 --> 01:32:12,601
you know,

2415
01:32:13,479 --> 01:32:15,951
ways and means and then handed the reins

2416
01:32:15,951 --> 01:32:16,689
over to

2417
01:32:17,146 --> 01:32:17,646
judiciary

2418
01:32:18,038 --> 01:32:18,779
went back

2419
01:32:19,555 --> 01:32:20,114
in time,

2420
01:32:20,673 --> 01:32:22,270
haul out that budget bill,

2421
01:32:23,068 --> 01:32:25,542
the supplemental and and stuck this language and

2422
01:32:25,542 --> 01:32:28,193
pretended. Had always been there, Right. So when

2423
01:32:28,193 --> 01:32:30,591
it got to the floor, they raised, you

2424
01:32:30,591 --> 01:32:32,747
know, the the Republicans raised to that objection,

2425
01:32:32,828 --> 01:32:34,586
and, of course, they were they were voted

2426
01:32:34,586 --> 01:32:36,670
down. So the mail got to where it

2427
01:32:36,670 --> 01:32:38,813
was. But you bring up a good point

2428
01:32:38,813 --> 01:32:41,194
numbers game. Where does the money come from

2429
01:32:41,194 --> 01:32:41,829
to do all this.

2430
01:32:43,274 --> 01:32:44,630
It doesn't. It's feel good nonsense.

2431
01:32:45,188 --> 01:32:47,820
Right. Right. There's no... Where there's no financial

2432
01:32:47,820 --> 01:32:49,734
backing to it. And once it gets passed

2433
01:32:49,734 --> 01:32:51,569
that everyone forgets about it. Except for the

2434
01:32:51,569 --> 01:32:53,140
agency. Like I said, I worked an agent

2435
01:32:53,259 --> 01:32:55,407
Zealand land. I... Yep. The agency is sitting

2436
01:32:55,407 --> 01:32:57,634
here, like, how do we do this? And

2437
01:32:57,634 --> 01:32:59,725
then they start begging for scraps

2438
01:33:00,354 --> 01:33:02,114
Of, like, can I hire a guy for

2439
01:33:02,114 --> 01:33:04,994
35000 dollars a year who can answer the

2440
01:33:04,994 --> 01:33:06,675
phone for us? No. You can.

2441
01:33:07,474 --> 01:33:09,635
It's like, that's really what it turns into.

2442
01:33:10,524 --> 01:33:12,456
But and you and you bet your ass

2443
01:33:12,512 --> 01:33:14,579
if there's some police officer out there that

2444
01:33:14,579 --> 01:33:15,476
knows the law

2445
01:33:16,010 --> 01:33:17,760
better than most, and you get picked up

2446
01:33:17,760 --> 01:33:19,032
for something that's not funded.

2447
01:33:19,604 --> 01:33:21,601
They're still gonna charge you with it. Sure.

2448
01:33:21,841 --> 01:33:22,321
Course. Right.

2449
01:33:23,919 --> 01:33:25,837
That's Man, this is a lot to take

2450
01:33:25,837 --> 01:33:27,595
in. It's Yeah. It's it's a...

2451
01:33:28,726 --> 01:33:30,796
Right around my birthday, maybe I should suspend

2452
01:33:30,796 --> 01:33:34,243
my birthday. Tomorrow is my birthday. 07:20 16

2453
01:33:34,301 --> 01:33:36,531
was the last time they ruined my birthday.

2454
01:33:37,025 --> 01:33:38,945
And tomorrow, I'm sure they're gonna vote for

2455
01:33:38,945 --> 01:33:41,265
this bill on my birthday. And you know,

2456
01:33:41,425 --> 01:33:42,805
it's... My poor mother

2457
01:33:43,265 --> 01:33:43,905
was born on.

2458
01:33:44,639 --> 01:33:46,634
11/22/1950,

2459
01:33:46,793 --> 01:33:49,586
which was the... In 19 63,

2460
01:33:49,825 --> 01:33:51,501
I think it was is when Jfk got

2461
01:33:51,501 --> 01:33:51,660
shot.

2462
01:33:52,314 --> 01:33:53,912
On her birthday, and she said, it ruined

2463
01:33:53,912 --> 01:33:56,388
my birthday for 10 years. You know, she

2464
01:33:56,388 --> 01:33:58,066
came home from school that day and as

2465
01:33:58,066 --> 01:34:00,392
a as a you know, 13 year old.

2466
01:34:00,631 --> 01:34:02,697
Am Gonna get a birthday party tonight? No.

2467
01:34:03,015 --> 01:34:04,923
Did you see what happened today? And so

2468
01:34:04,923 --> 01:34:06,831
for the next 10 years, she didn't get

2469
01:34:06,831 --> 01:34:07,308
a birthday.

2470
01:34:08,580 --> 01:34:10,427
You So that's how I'm feeling right now,

2471
01:34:11,302 --> 01:34:13,533
but that's okay. I I'm a big boy

2472
01:34:13,613 --> 01:34:14,171
I can take it.

2473
01:34:15,127 --> 01:34:16,560
The point I'm trying to make though is...

2474
01:34:18,882 --> 01:34:19,541
We got

2475
01:34:20,231 --> 01:34:22,135
all of this coming down. We got the...

2476
01:34:22,372 --> 01:34:24,673
It's gonna get voted on tomorrow apparently, and

2477
01:34:25,244 --> 01:34:26,760
you know, we still don't have the final

2478
01:34:26,760 --> 01:34:28,435
language, which was news to me. Thanks for

2479
01:34:28,435 --> 01:34:29,391
dropping that on me Mike.

2480
01:34:30,269 --> 01:34:30,827
And then

2481
01:34:31,625 --> 01:34:33,300
you know, it goes to the governor's desk

2482
01:34:33,300 --> 01:34:34,417
gets signed into law.

2483
01:34:35,310 --> 01:34:36,670
And I'm sure it's gonna be a press

2484
01:34:36,670 --> 01:34:39,949
conference surrounded by the... Yeah. Who cops that

2485
01:34:39,949 --> 01:34:40,829
support the bill and

2486
01:34:41,550 --> 01:34:43,550
and everything else and there'll be a big

2487
01:34:43,550 --> 01:34:46,197
handshake and pen hand out. Then where does

2488
01:34:46,197 --> 01:34:47,869
that leave us? It looks like to me,

2489
01:34:48,109 --> 01:34:49,862
based on what I see it goes into

2490
01:34:49,862 --> 01:34:51,510
effect in a hundred and 80 days. Is

2491
01:34:51,628 --> 01:34:52,977
Am Reading that right, Did you guys see

2492
01:34:52,977 --> 01:34:55,595
anything like that? So there's different effective dates

2493
01:34:55,595 --> 01:34:56,468
for different sections.

2494
01:34:57,182 --> 01:34:59,245
Most of the time, if there's no emergency

2495
01:34:59,245 --> 01:35:01,172
pre am. It goes into it... It goes

2496
01:35:01,172 --> 01:35:03,646
into effect at 90 days after signing. How

2497
01:35:03,646 --> 01:35:03,886
there's...

2498
01:35:04,604 --> 01:35:06,919
Yeah. But this is there's a whole bunch

2499
01:35:06,919 --> 01:35:07,238
of

2500
01:35:08,036 --> 01:35:08,595
effective dates.

2501
01:35:09,168 --> 01:35:10,203
Scattered throughout this thing.

2502
01:35:10,919 --> 01:35:14,262
So who's to say? I in theory, we

2503
01:35:14,262 --> 01:35:16,093
could try to organize if they don't have

2504
01:35:16,093 --> 01:35:18,581
an emergency. Pre Can we organize a,

2505
01:35:19,299 --> 01:35:20,596
a petition to

2506
01:35:21,055 --> 01:35:23,210
to put... Like, you... We have a short

2507
01:35:23,210 --> 01:35:24,566
window of time and I figure forget what

2508
01:35:24,566 --> 01:35:26,500
that number is the citizen where you can

2509
01:35:26,500 --> 01:35:28,039
try to recall it basically.

2510
01:35:28,500 --> 01:35:30,579
So until, I'll put you in charge organizing

2511
01:35:30,579 --> 01:35:31,780
not if you want. Yeah. Here I go.

2512
01:35:31,939 --> 01:35:33,632
I don't even know where to start. Who

2513
01:35:33,792 --> 01:35:35,860
I call to make that happen? Because there

2514
01:35:35,860 --> 01:35:37,371
there is... If you look at the... It's

2515
01:35:37,371 --> 01:35:39,439
been, again, it's been 20 years since I

2516
01:35:39,439 --> 01:35:40,235
worked in go.

2517
01:35:40,805 --> 01:35:43,423
Without the emergency pre, there's a way that

2518
01:35:43,423 --> 01:35:44,161
you can

2519
01:35:44,930 --> 01:35:46,755
prevent it from it going into effect.

2520
01:35:48,341 --> 01:35:51,891
You're But there... There's, like, a signature requirements

2521
01:35:52,031 --> 01:35:53,949
and all kinds of criticism horrible.

2522
01:35:54,349 --> 01:35:54,668
Yeah.

2523
01:35:55,547 --> 01:35:57,805
Let me ask the question that I know

2524
01:35:58,679 --> 01:36:01,232
you're probably not gonna like Jason, but... Please.

2525
01:36:02,270 --> 01:36:03,227
Poly questions.

2526
01:36:03,865 --> 01:36:04,344
Frankly,

2527
01:36:05,381 --> 01:36:07,954
this is a violation of their oath of

2528
01:36:07,954 --> 01:36:08,354
office,

2529
01:36:10,195 --> 01:36:13,255
especially in line of all the Supreme court

2530
01:36:13,315 --> 01:36:14,375
decisions in all the

2531
01:36:15,244 --> 01:36:17,073
circuit court decisions and,

2532
01:36:18,266 --> 01:36:20,334
circuit court of appeals. I mean, appeal... A

2533
01:36:20,334 --> 01:36:22,402
appellate court decisions that have come out in

2534
01:36:22,402 --> 01:36:24,072
the past 2 or 3 years,

2535
01:36:27,680 --> 01:36:29,837
what can you do if the legislature just

2536
01:36:29,837 --> 01:36:33,597
continually ignores their oath? And continues to infringe

2537
01:36:33,597 --> 01:36:35,291
on a right that is protected

2538
01:36:35,824 --> 01:36:37,041
and is

2539
01:36:37,654 --> 01:36:39,643
says right in the language of the text

2540
01:36:39,643 --> 01:36:40,143
that

2541
01:36:40,850 --> 01:36:41,167
you know,

2542
01:36:42,041 --> 01:36:43,628
you can't infringe on it, but they do

2543
01:36:43,628 --> 01:36:44,264
it anyway.

2544
01:36:44,899 --> 01:36:46,510
In my world that's m.

2545
01:36:47,359 --> 01:36:47,677
And,

2546
01:36:48,886 --> 01:36:50,663
in civil world that's

2547
01:36:51,519 --> 01:36:52,817
fraud in the induce

2548
01:36:53,912 --> 01:36:55,210
and yet

2549
01:36:55,746 --> 01:36:57,123
politicians get away with it

2550
01:36:57,581 --> 01:36:59,985
because know, they... So you know, I know

2551
01:36:59,985 --> 01:37:01,338
you're gonna tell me the ballot box is

2552
01:37:01,338 --> 01:37:03,010
the only place. How, what I tell you

2553
01:37:03,010 --> 01:37:05,000
the valve box is of place put together

2554
01:37:05,000 --> 01:37:07,889
candidates that... You, you know, are particularly in

2555
01:37:07,889 --> 01:37:09,889
this state, you know, moderate it, if you

2556
01:37:09,889 --> 01:37:11,889
will, will it friendly on gun rights and

2557
01:37:11,889 --> 01:37:13,649
run them. I think that's how you do

2558
01:37:13,649 --> 01:37:15,262
it. I mean You know, I think you...

2559
01:37:15,502 --> 01:37:16,857
You know, when you say Shall not be

2560
01:37:16,857 --> 01:37:18,612
in Inference, you know, you don't need to

2561
01:37:18,612 --> 01:37:20,287
look much farther than the were he e

2562
01:37:20,287 --> 01:37:22,440
case, which just came down from from the

2563
01:37:22,440 --> 01:37:24,930
the Supreme Court which said that Well, maybe

2564
01:37:24,930 --> 01:37:27,170
it can be infringe if you're or a

2565
01:37:27,170 --> 01:37:28,289
danger or a risk,

2566
01:37:29,250 --> 01:37:31,329
that's the rest restraining order case. So what

2567
01:37:31,329 --> 01:37:33,010
that hold is shall not be friends mean,

2568
01:37:33,170 --> 01:37:35,511
it's kinda up to the supreme court for

2569
01:37:35,567 --> 01:37:37,630
right Palace. We need guidance.

2570
01:37:38,662 --> 01:37:40,725
Well, you bring up an interesting point about

2571
01:37:40,884 --> 01:37:41,280
Ra,

2572
01:37:41,994 --> 01:37:44,268
kinda and that is that a in Ra,

2573
01:37:44,966 --> 01:37:48,242
Cat Brown Jackson said that Brewing methodology is

2574
01:37:48,242 --> 01:37:50,560
the law, the land. That is the methodology.

2575
01:37:51,691 --> 01:37:53,922
I think they tortured the Brewing methodology a

2576
01:37:53,922 --> 01:37:56,391
little bit in Ra. However, it was a

2577
01:37:56,391 --> 01:37:58,942
facial challenge. So therefore, you got approved that

2578
01:37:58,942 --> 01:37:59,760
there's no

2579
01:38:00,216 --> 01:38:00,670
situation

2580
01:38:01,027 --> 01:38:02,719
that that law could be

2581
01:38:03,729 --> 01:38:06,271
constitutional. Right? Wow. And and so that's a

2582
01:38:06,271 --> 01:38:08,814
almost insurmountable barrier to climb, but that was

2583
01:38:08,814 --> 01:38:10,980
all originally. Pad was grasping at straws at

2584
01:38:10,980 --> 01:38:13,396
that point. Because he couldn't he couldn't argue

2585
01:38:13,534 --> 01:38:14,034
it's

2586
01:38:14,572 --> 01:38:17,286
unconstitutional as applied when he willingly entered into

2587
01:38:17,286 --> 01:38:17,365
a,

2588
01:38:18,177 --> 01:38:20,402
restraining order that said he can't possess guns.

2589
01:38:20,560 --> 01:38:23,501
So, like, that's ridiculous. That wouldn't be makes

2590
01:38:23,501 --> 01:38:25,271
sense. So he said it's facial

2591
01:38:25,645 --> 01:38:26,202
unconstitutional lost,

2592
01:38:26,935 --> 01:38:27,175
and

2593
01:38:28,055 --> 01:38:30,135
it was a pretty hard barrier to overcome.

2594
01:38:30,295 --> 01:38:30,795
But

2595
01:38:32,215 --> 01:38:33,574
there was a couple of nuggets in that.

2596
01:38:33,735 --> 01:38:35,735
And a couple of stepping stones that proved

2597
01:38:35,735 --> 01:38:38,697
that text history and tradition is the methodology,

2598
01:38:39,015 --> 01:38:41,960
including what Git Brown Jackson said in her

2599
01:38:42,517 --> 01:38:43,791
in her concur opinion.

2600
01:38:44,363 --> 01:38:45,816
And then we have

2601
01:38:46,507 --> 01:38:47,722
the the

2602
01:38:48,255 --> 01:38:49,787
fact of the matter that

2603
01:38:50,559 --> 01:38:52,148
clarence Thomas is descent.

2604
01:38:52,719 --> 01:38:54,311
You know, was he was the only 1

2605
01:38:54,311 --> 01:38:56,460
that was saying like, look. We already did

2606
01:38:56,460 --> 01:38:57,813
the deep dive on this. Why are we

2607
01:38:57,813 --> 01:38:59,723
even messing around with it. The guy can

2608
01:38:59,723 --> 01:39:01,634
be charged for 20 years if you just

2609
01:39:01,634 --> 01:39:02,404
charge them with

2610
01:39:03,404 --> 01:39:04,784
assault with a deadly weapon

2611
01:39:05,164 --> 01:39:06,444
under Texas law,

2612
01:39:07,324 --> 01:39:09,824
but, you know, why are we torturing the

2613
01:39:09,885 --> 01:39:11,484
definition here to make it fit? It doesn't

2614
01:39:11,484 --> 01:39:11,965
make sense.

2615
01:39:12,539 --> 01:39:12,779
So,

2616
01:39:13,497 --> 01:39:15,014
I think there's some nuggets that came out

2617
01:39:15,014 --> 01:39:17,169
of that butt, and we'll see what happens

2618
01:39:17,169 --> 01:39:18,287
in the Brian range case,

2619
01:39:19,005 --> 01:39:20,841
because that's another 09:22

2620
01:39:20,841 --> 01:39:21,161
g.

2621
01:39:22,052 --> 01:39:25,076
8, you know, type of felon in possession,

2622
01:39:25,315 --> 01:39:26,668
but this is nonviolent felon.

2623
01:39:27,385 --> 01:39:28,896
So we still have some work to do

2624
01:39:28,896 --> 01:39:30,886
there. But at the end of the day,

2625
01:39:32,575 --> 01:39:34,729
I think in Infringement is pretty obvious unless

2626
01:39:34,729 --> 01:39:37,520
it's consistent with the... An analogous law at

2627
01:39:37,520 --> 01:39:39,435
the time of the founding in 17 91.

2628
01:39:39,674 --> 01:39:40,950
I mean, or the ratification.

2629
01:39:42,078 --> 01:39:42,578
But

2630
01:39:43,271 --> 01:39:45,736
you're always gonna get some sent there people

2631
01:39:45,736 --> 01:39:47,167
trying to torture it and pull it back

2632
01:39:47,167 --> 01:39:49,075
and say it's a living brief document where

2633
01:39:49,075 --> 01:39:50,029
you can do what you want.

2634
01:39:51,478 --> 01:39:53,314
I still say it comes back to federal

2635
01:39:53,314 --> 01:39:54,032
is 49,

2636
01:39:54,830 --> 01:39:58,980
constitutional limitations. Mh. There's limitations to constitutional power.

2637
01:39:59,635 --> 01:40:02,427
And when they overs step that, where does

2638
01:40:02,427 --> 01:40:04,821
that leave us? We only have 1 method

2639
01:40:04,821 --> 01:40:06,177
to deal with that and that's the ballot

2640
01:40:06,177 --> 01:40:07,215
box. That's ridiculous.

2641
01:40:07,787 --> 01:40:08,105
We have,

2642
01:40:08,822 --> 01:40:11,844
Us code title 18 section 02:42,

2643
01:40:12,560 --> 01:40:14,151
which says any official,

2644
01:40:15,122 --> 01:40:16,873
That leaves the door open any official who

2645
01:40:16,873 --> 01:40:18,091
under the color of law

2646
01:40:18,626 --> 01:40:21,117
pride an a a citizen of their

2647
01:40:21,652 --> 01:40:22,688
constitutional protected rights.

2648
01:40:23,419 --> 01:40:25,092
So why doesn't that leave the door open

2649
01:40:25,092 --> 01:40:27,164
to challenge these people in in a lawsuit?

2650
01:40:29,953 --> 01:40:32,116
Is that rhetoric? I great question.

2651
01:40:33,147 --> 01:40:33,703
I guess.

2652
01:40:35,210 --> 01:40:36,796
You're not getting get a judge do agree,

2653
01:40:37,033 --> 01:40:39,096
I think. At least in our circuit.

2654
01:40:39,668 --> 01:40:40,306
Sure. Yeah.

2655
01:40:41,104 --> 01:40:41,604
Unfortunately.

2656
01:40:43,017 --> 01:40:43,176
Well,

2657
01:40:44,053 --> 01:40:44,792
I hope

2658
01:40:45,170 --> 01:40:47,243
there is some sort of provision. And I

2659
01:40:47,243 --> 01:40:49,354
haven't read. You know, the entire

2660
01:40:49,655 --> 01:40:51,414
constitution and into the nuance of that.

2661
01:40:52,135 --> 01:40:52,534
But

2662
01:40:53,574 --> 01:40:56,055
you know, the constitution is very good document

2663
01:40:56,055 --> 01:40:58,228
written by very smart people that you know,

2664
01:40:58,467 --> 01:41:00,082
deals with a lot of contingencies.

2665
01:41:01,176 --> 01:41:03,109
You almost gotta go back to the federal

2666
01:41:03,804 --> 01:41:07,011
papers to see what the intent was there

2667
01:41:07,323 --> 01:41:07,801
of

2668
01:41:08,198 --> 01:41:10,345
limiting power, but in that federal is 49,

2669
01:41:10,823 --> 01:41:13,232
it says the legislature is the most important

2670
01:41:13,766 --> 01:41:16,017
of all the branches of government because they

2671
01:41:16,017 --> 01:41:18,974
are the gatekeeper of the people's rights. So

2672
01:41:18,974 --> 01:41:21,291
what happens when the gatekeeper becomes the oath

2673
01:41:21,291 --> 01:41:21,611
breaker.

2674
01:41:22,903 --> 01:41:25,791
And they violate that trust that that

2675
01:41:26,166 --> 01:41:28,020
fiduciary responsibility to

2676
01:41:28,872 --> 01:41:30,168
you know, in

2677
01:41:30,877 --> 01:41:33,335
make sure that my rights are stay intact,

2678
01:41:33,969 --> 01:41:36,744
and then they themselves become the the offender

2679
01:41:36,744 --> 01:41:38,172
of those rights and the breaker,

2680
01:41:38,822 --> 01:41:41,284
of of their oath of office. I I

2681
01:41:41,284 --> 01:41:41,444
mean,

2682
01:41:42,555 --> 01:41:43,985
I don't know if it's ever had a

2683
01:41:43,985 --> 01:41:46,289
successful challenge or not, never maybe it never

2684
01:41:46,289 --> 01:41:46,979
will, but

2685
01:41:47,418 --> 01:41:49,731
I think that stuff I think about. That's

2686
01:41:49,731 --> 01:41:51,087
what I think it's knee up at Night...

2687
01:41:51,566 --> 01:41:53,002
I think it's a symptom of the the

2688
01:41:53,002 --> 01:41:55,235
biggest curse the founding fathers left us with

2689
01:41:55,235 --> 01:41:56,671
is a full time legislature.

2690
01:41:57,243 --> 01:41:59,470
The most dangerous work make work job there

2691
01:41:59,470 --> 01:41:59,970
is

2692
01:42:00,822 --> 01:42:03,288
They have to justify their existence every single

2693
01:42:03,288 --> 01:42:03,527
year.

2694
01:42:04,338 --> 01:42:06,011
And they're in their they're in session every

2695
01:42:06,011 --> 01:42:07,364
72 hours in Massachusetts,

2696
01:42:08,002 --> 01:42:11,188
and they... They're judged by how much... Their

2697
01:42:11,188 --> 01:42:14,234
their productivity and on 4 is judged by

2698
01:42:14,234 --> 01:42:16,314
how much legislation they pass in a given

2699
01:42:16,314 --> 01:42:18,255
session. And I

2700
01:42:18,875 --> 01:42:20,715
I think we were always bound to get

2701
01:42:20,715 --> 01:42:22,724
unfortunately to where you're talking about just by

2702
01:42:22,724 --> 01:42:24,399
nature of the way they upper operate. Yeah.

2703
01:42:24,557 --> 01:42:26,233
If I had a time machine and I

2704
01:42:26,233 --> 01:42:27,988
could go back to the founders and tell

2705
01:42:27,988 --> 01:42:30,140
them what happens in 20 24, I would

2706
01:42:30,140 --> 01:42:31,114
say, Listen.

2707
01:42:32,312 --> 01:42:35,188
When bad laws created, it takes decades and

2708
01:42:35,188 --> 01:42:36,786
millions of dollars to fix it.

2709
01:42:38,238 --> 01:42:40,231
Let's just flip those 2 things. Let's make

2710
01:42:40,231 --> 01:42:43,101
it so that bad law takes, like, 10

2711
01:42:43,101 --> 01:42:45,175
years and millions of dollars to create,

2712
01:42:45,654 --> 01:42:46,530
and it can be...

2713
01:42:47,104 --> 01:42:47,925
Ex ex

2714
01:42:49,025 --> 01:42:50,145
fixed in the courts.

2715
01:42:50,784 --> 01:42:52,385
Because right now, it's the opposite.

2716
01:42:52,784 --> 01:42:55,104
You know, it it's quick for legislature to

2717
01:42:55,104 --> 01:42:57,195
pass bad law, it's way quicker than it

2718
01:42:57,195 --> 01:42:57,434
should be.

2719
01:42:58,470 --> 01:43:01,337
Legislation should take long periods of time and

2720
01:43:01,337 --> 01:43:03,899
debate and public input and opinion. It's and

2721
01:43:03,899 --> 01:43:06,355
there should be high barriers to passing law

2722
01:43:06,355 --> 01:43:08,970
in my opinion. Well, the the master house

2723
01:43:08,970 --> 01:43:10,659
representative used to be, like, 400

2724
01:43:10,890 --> 01:43:11,210
members.

2725
01:43:12,010 --> 01:43:13,850
Right. It used to be enormous, and then

2726
01:43:13,850 --> 01:43:15,689
they cut it down in what the late

2727
01:43:15,689 --> 01:43:17,850
sixties early seventies to where it is now.

2728
01:43:18,979 --> 01:43:21,045
And you know, I think it probably took

2729
01:43:21,045 --> 01:43:22,793
a little longer to get stuff done back

2730
01:43:22,793 --> 01:43:22,952
then.

2731
01:43:24,382 --> 01:43:24,700
Yeah.

2732
01:43:26,131 --> 01:43:26,528
I means,

2733
01:43:27,579 --> 01:43:29,739
things should not move quickly through legislature,

2734
01:43:30,460 --> 01:43:33,020
legislature in my opinion because it's it certainly

2735
01:43:33,020 --> 01:43:35,180
move slow through the courts. We all know

2736
01:43:35,180 --> 01:43:35,340
that.

2737
01:43:36,315 --> 01:43:38,975
Gonna take time and money

2738
01:43:39,435 --> 01:43:39,935
and

2739
01:43:40,635 --> 01:43:41,034
lawyers.

2740
01:43:41,595 --> 01:43:43,515
Send lawyers guns and money. It's the anthem

2741
01:43:43,515 --> 01:43:46,169
of the gun owner in Massachusetts. Right? Mh.

2742
01:43:47,528 --> 01:43:50,484
Jason, it'll probably keep you gain employed for

2743
01:43:50,484 --> 01:43:51,363
decades to come.

2744
01:43:52,162 --> 01:43:53,680
Should this should this pass.

2745
01:43:54,491 --> 01:43:56,401
For all the for all the wrong reasons.

2746
01:43:56,640 --> 01:43:57,913
I'd rather you get into a,

2747
01:43:59,903 --> 01:44:02,289
not the aspect of law, but do real

2748
01:44:02,289 --> 01:44:03,658
estate or something is like.

2749
01:44:04,454 --> 01:44:06,128
I want you and Mike to go out

2750
01:44:06,128 --> 01:44:07,961
of business for Oh my god. I always

2751
01:44:07,961 --> 01:44:09,235
say this is this is the most fun

2752
01:44:09,235 --> 01:44:10,670
job I've ever had, but I would love

2753
01:44:10,670 --> 01:44:11,785
to not to have to have it.

2754
01:44:12,662 --> 01:44:14,911
Yes. It's a fair criticism. The fact that

2755
01:44:14,990 --> 01:44:17,146
I... My entire practice is this stuff is...

2756
01:44:17,785 --> 01:44:19,063
I say that to people all the time.

2757
01:44:19,222 --> 01:44:20,979
It shouldn't be. It, like, the the fact

2758
01:44:20,979 --> 01:44:22,357
that these laws are so

2759
01:44:23,546 --> 01:44:26,408
obscure so dense, and so easy to break

2760
01:44:26,408 --> 01:44:29,668
that it provides me with a full time

2761
01:44:29,668 --> 01:44:31,338
job is a problem. Right?

2762
01:44:33,104 --> 01:44:36,537
So quick crystal ball moment. Let's just take

2763
01:44:36,537 --> 01:44:38,053
a step from this for a second.

2764
01:44:39,490 --> 01:44:41,087
What do you guys think it's gonna happen

2765
01:44:41,087 --> 01:44:42,125
in the Donald case.

2766
01:44:42,934 --> 01:44:45,418
Out of the lowell District court that the

2767
01:44:47,220 --> 01:44:49,919
department adjusted or the attorney general's office has

2768
01:44:49,919 --> 01:44:51,134
chosen to appeal

2769
01:44:51,841 --> 01:44:54,229
Yeah. I I think Jc is gonna take

2770
01:44:54,229 --> 01:44:54,729
it

2771
01:44:55,104 --> 01:44:57,253
to yeah. I thought they did. I saw...

2772
01:44:57,412 --> 01:44:59,482
Yeah. They already did. Right? Gary did. So

2773
01:44:59,482 --> 01:45:01,964
they... And they... They granted sir in they're

2774
01:45:01,964 --> 01:45:02,839
solicit brief.

2775
01:45:04,192 --> 01:45:06,203
You know, in light of this language,

2776
01:45:07,930 --> 01:45:10,098
sir where... And again, you point to this

2777
01:45:10,098 --> 01:45:11,475
out with the non resident.

2778
01:45:12,012 --> 01:45:14,884
Now it you... It's bigger than, you know,

2779
01:45:14,963 --> 01:45:17,777
the firearms owner protection act. It's actually allowing

2780
01:45:18,645 --> 01:45:20,576
carry in your vehicle,

2781
01:45:20,951 --> 01:45:23,597
Right, as a non resident or

2782
01:45:23,971 --> 01:45:27,231
stored in your vehicle as a non resident

2783
01:45:27,231 --> 01:45:28,043
or stored.

2784
01:45:30,441 --> 01:45:33,158
I wonder if the S jc pumps somehow,

2785
01:45:33,477 --> 01:45:35,555
now that this... If this bill passes that

2786
01:45:35,555 --> 01:45:37,800
way Right. You know, if this bill wasn't

2787
01:45:37,800 --> 01:45:39,710
here, I would say the S would say

2788
01:45:39,710 --> 01:45:41,381
number 1, it's not equal protection,

2789
01:45:42,655 --> 01:45:43,664
you know, that

2790
01:45:44,422 --> 01:45:46,917
regulating firearms is reserved to the states

2791
01:45:47,293 --> 01:45:49,447
that licensing is constitutional,

2792
01:45:50,404 --> 01:45:51,362
Heller says so,

2793
01:45:52,239 --> 01:45:54,248
you know, all the kind of Yeah. All

2794
01:45:54,248 --> 01:45:55,844
the boiler plate things that we think they're

2795
01:45:55,844 --> 01:45:58,717
gonna say. Now I'm wondering if they punt

2796
01:45:58,717 --> 01:46:00,712
and have it reconsider and light in the

2797
01:46:00,712 --> 01:46:03,122
new legislation. Try to find a way around

2798
01:46:03,122 --> 01:46:03,622
giving

2799
01:46:04,322 --> 01:46:06,000
anyone a vehicle to get des go.

2800
01:46:07,597 --> 01:46:09,755
Well, you bring up something very interesting there

2801
01:46:09,755 --> 01:46:11,361
and sorry, Mike. Just cutting off I just

2802
01:46:11,361 --> 01:46:12,154
wanna respond to,

2803
01:46:13,185 --> 01:46:13,662
Jason there.

2804
01:46:14,693 --> 01:46:17,970
You said regulating firearms is is

2805
01:46:18,659 --> 01:46:20,284
just regulated to the

2806
01:46:20,655 --> 01:46:23,508
delegated to the states, Where that language I

2807
01:46:23,508 --> 01:46:25,409
think is what you're talking about from Cruise

2808
01:46:25,409 --> 01:46:25,909
shank

2809
01:46:27,336 --> 01:46:30,526
the United States from 18 75 where they

2810
01:46:30,526 --> 01:46:33,796
said that Congress can't make any law because

2811
01:46:33,796 --> 01:46:35,631
of the second amendment. They were basically saying

2812
01:46:35,631 --> 01:46:37,823
the the right to keep and bear arms

2813
01:46:38,042 --> 01:46:40,359
is not contingent upon the bill of rights.

2814
01:46:40,519 --> 01:46:41,319
It pre exists.

2815
01:46:42,037 --> 01:46:44,755
And the only reason the second amendment exists,

2816
01:46:45,010 --> 01:46:46,948
is so that Congress will make no law

2817
01:46:47,327 --> 01:46:49,725
prohibit or infringing upon it. And that's what

2818
01:46:49,725 --> 01:46:50,843
kicked it to the states.

2819
01:46:51,483 --> 01:46:54,335
And then it was affirmed in 18 76

2820
01:46:54,693 --> 01:46:55,649
with press,

2821
01:46:56,127 --> 01:46:57,323
the Illinois, and then,

2822
01:46:58,279 --> 01:46:59,952
but fast forward to Mcdonald,

2823
01:47:00,430 --> 01:47:01,408
that kind of

2824
01:47:02,279 --> 01:47:04,353
ring that back a little bit as far

2825
01:47:04,353 --> 01:47:06,986
as I'm my understanding of it. Maybe I'm

2826
01:47:06,986 --> 01:47:08,124
wrong. But

2827
01:47:08,661 --> 01:47:10,054
and then you look at state

2828
01:47:10,433 --> 01:47:12,671
constitution, which in most states are very similar

2829
01:47:12,671 --> 01:47:13,330
to the

2830
01:47:14,988 --> 01:47:17,145
the second amendment and in Massachusetts,

2831
01:47:17,637 --> 01:47:19,626
it even says the right to keep and

2832
01:47:19,626 --> 01:47:21,636
bear arms for the common defense

2833
01:47:22,011 --> 01:47:25,350
shall not be infringe. So where where does

2834
01:47:25,509 --> 01:47:26,861
Congress get the right?

2835
01:47:27,911 --> 01:47:30,722
To pass any laws that infringe upon the

2836
01:47:31,736 --> 01:47:33,967
on on the bill of rights or the

2837
01:47:33,967 --> 01:47:36,437
second amendment specific. Again, I think it depends

2838
01:47:36,437 --> 01:47:38,917
on what the word in French means. Right?

2839
01:47:39,235 --> 01:47:41,858
And you have your opinion that they can't

2840
01:47:41,858 --> 01:47:44,004
pass any laws. And I understand that. I

2841
01:47:44,004 --> 01:47:45,855
think our case law has said

2842
01:47:46,484 --> 01:47:48,555
differently. Right? Were ford. Mh.

2843
01:47:50,307 --> 01:47:52,378
But, you know, I think we were talking

2844
01:47:52,378 --> 01:47:53,277
about states

2845
01:47:53,827 --> 01:47:56,395
you know, there's this whole, like, does Congress

2846
01:47:56,690 --> 01:47:58,758
occupy the field? Does the federal government occupy

2847
01:47:58,758 --> 01:48:01,383
the field of regulation, If not, then there

2848
01:48:01,383 --> 01:48:01,621
are...

2849
01:48:02,592 --> 01:48:03,890
The states that

2850
01:48:04,347 --> 01:48:06,102
still have the ability to regulate.

2851
01:48:07,537 --> 01:48:09,452
You know, I'm not saying and you are

2852
01:48:09,452 --> 01:48:11,899
right. I, I'm not saying that you can't

2853
01:48:12,257 --> 01:48:14,242
or you can pass... And as we saw

2854
01:48:14,242 --> 01:48:17,203
in Berlin, you can't pass something that violates

2855
01:48:18,052 --> 01:48:19,243
the second amendment,

2856
01:48:20,275 --> 01:48:20,775
but

2857
01:48:21,562 --> 01:48:23,314
at the same time, the states are still

2858
01:48:23,314 --> 01:48:25,247
gonna be allowed to have their own

2859
01:48:26,418 --> 01:48:28,408
laws that may not be the same as

2860
01:48:28,408 --> 01:48:31,125
contiguous states. Mh Right? So isn't that that's

2861
01:48:31,125 --> 01:48:33,269
the issue in Donald, Donald, I mean, new

2862
01:48:33,427 --> 01:48:34,856
Hampshire has no laws. I mean,

2863
01:48:35,491 --> 01:48:37,891
to sit to that extent. And vermont?

2864
01:48:38,448 --> 01:48:41,078
Right. And Brian, we have licensing. And again,

2865
01:48:41,396 --> 01:48:43,251
Heller has said that licensing is

2866
01:48:43,627 --> 01:48:43,865
constitutional.

2867
01:48:45,154 --> 01:48:46,528
You know, is well

2868
01:48:46,902 --> 01:48:49,445
relations opinion did. It wasn't in the... It

2869
01:48:49,445 --> 01:48:50,081
wasn't in the

2870
01:48:51,194 --> 01:48:51,511
why.

2871
01:48:52,085 --> 01:48:54,401
In the majority opinion. Right.

2872
01:48:55,760 --> 01:48:59,034
And does very now it's biggest constitutional? Right.

2873
01:48:59,447 --> 01:49:01,851
But I would say that even the wording

2874
01:49:02,304 --> 01:49:02,804
in

2875
01:49:03,733 --> 01:49:04,233
heller

2876
01:49:04,685 --> 01:49:08,354
doesn't necessarily say it's constitutional. It makes... It

2877
01:49:08,354 --> 01:49:10,109
makes it sound like they haven't done the

2878
01:49:10,109 --> 01:49:12,501
deep spade work of whether it is or

2879
01:49:12,501 --> 01:49:15,771
not. It suggests it might be, but it...

2880
01:49:16,011 --> 01:49:17,866
They didn't do that. And even

2881
01:49:18,177 --> 01:49:20,264
B does the same thing with kavanaugh.

2882
01:49:21,747 --> 01:49:23,834
And and I I would say that

2883
01:49:25,653 --> 01:49:28,204
Until that challenge comes before the court,

2884
01:49:28,843 --> 01:49:30,916
which I think it should, especially in light

2885
01:49:30,916 --> 01:49:33,388
of Murdoch v, Pennsylvania, which we've talked about

2886
01:49:33,388 --> 01:49:34,447
before, which says

2887
01:49:34,759 --> 01:49:36,926
that you can't license

2888
01:49:37,935 --> 01:49:40,475
permit or charge a fee or a tax

2889
01:49:40,475 --> 01:49:41,213
for the

2890
01:49:41,746 --> 01:49:43,755
enjoyment of a federally protected

2891
01:49:44,543 --> 01:49:44,863
right.

2892
01:49:45,662 --> 01:49:47,260
So I don't know why that has never

2893
01:49:47,260 --> 01:49:50,376
been challenged. It seems ridiculously obvious to me,

2894
01:49:50,696 --> 01:49:52,863
but I'm just a gun guy. You know,

2895
01:49:53,021 --> 01:49:54,930
I just sell guns for a living. I'm

2896
01:49:54,930 --> 01:49:55,247
pretty

2897
01:49:55,804 --> 01:49:57,099
lower Iq. I haven't

2898
01:49:57,474 --> 01:50:00,194
graduated from any ivy league law school's. So

2899
01:50:00,274 --> 01:50:02,532
I'm like, why the heck hasn't this

2900
01:50:02,990 --> 01:50:05,408
been challenged? You know, And You and I

2901
01:50:05,548 --> 01:50:07,146
talked about it before and you thought maybe

2902
01:50:07,146 --> 01:50:08,917
because it's a first amendment case, But It

2903
01:50:08,917 --> 01:50:11,302
doesn't say specific to the first amendment. It

2904
01:50:11,302 --> 01:50:14,004
says a constitutional protected right.

2905
01:50:15,355 --> 01:50:17,778
Yeah. I mean, it Heller does say long

2906
01:50:17,913 --> 01:50:18,413
standing

2907
01:50:19,027 --> 01:50:21,889
prohibition on access to the mental, you know,

2908
01:50:22,286 --> 01:50:23,956
access to firearms by the mentally alien and

2909
01:50:23,956 --> 01:50:26,754
felons, and it does not affect. License 16.

2910
01:50:26,993 --> 01:50:27,493
So,

2911
01:50:29,381 --> 01:50:29,881
I

2912
01:50:30,494 --> 01:50:32,962
is Heller predicting Brewing in some way by

2913
01:50:32,962 --> 01:50:34,633
using that long standing language,

2914
01:50:35,364 --> 01:50:36,402
you know, I don't know.

2915
01:50:38,477 --> 01:50:40,552
You know, well that we're they casting. I

2916
01:50:40,552 --> 01:50:43,265
don't know. There's also footnote 9 in Brewing.

2917
01:50:44,394 --> 01:50:46,694
Or, you know, it kind of explicitly says

2918
01:50:46,694 --> 01:50:48,781
that nothing in the analysis should be interpreted

2919
01:50:49,313 --> 01:50:49,813
to

2920
01:50:50,344 --> 01:50:53,457
suggest the un unconstitutional of shell who permit

2921
01:50:53,457 --> 01:50:53,775
schemes.

2922
01:50:54,412 --> 01:50:56,003
Alright. That's true too. Cancel.

2923
01:50:56,799 --> 01:50:58,095
I think we need to

2924
01:50:58,550 --> 01:51:00,778
get that challenge to the to the

2925
01:51:01,668 --> 01:51:03,260
Supreme Court, but I don't think it's... I

2926
01:51:03,260 --> 01:51:04,135
think it'll take a while.

2927
01:51:04,930 --> 01:51:06,760
I just would say, like, like,

2928
01:51:07,476 --> 01:51:08,430
Clarence Thomas says,

2929
01:51:09,320 --> 01:51:11,625
You can't treat the second amendment differently than

2930
01:51:11,625 --> 01:51:13,214
all the other en. Right. It's not a

2931
01:51:13,214 --> 01:51:15,121
second class. Right. Yeah. Right. And so if

2932
01:51:15,121 --> 01:51:17,188
you can't issue a license to go to

2933
01:51:17,188 --> 01:51:17,426
church.

2934
01:51:18,314 --> 01:51:20,061
Or to vote, we already tried that with

2935
01:51:20,061 --> 01:51:22,443
the poll tax. Right? And that was ruled

2936
01:51:22,443 --> 01:51:22,943
on

2937
01:51:23,316 --> 01:51:23,554
unconstitutional.

2938
01:51:24,427 --> 01:51:26,784
If you can't charge a license to for

2939
01:51:26,904 --> 01:51:29,215
fourth amendment or fifth amendment protections, then how

2940
01:51:29,215 --> 01:51:30,489
can you do it for the second amendment?

2941
01:51:32,402 --> 01:51:34,574
Yeah. I mean, that's the prohibited person

2942
01:51:34,951 --> 01:51:36,407
analysis. Right? That

2943
01:51:36,880 --> 01:51:37,779
instead of a licensing

2944
01:51:39,039 --> 01:51:41,840
requirement. It's something that goal has said for

2945
01:51:41,840 --> 01:51:44,493
20 years instead of a licensing requirement, you

2946
01:51:44,493 --> 01:51:46,477
have a prohibited person statute just like you

2947
01:51:46,477 --> 01:51:48,938
do run a loan. Right? Right. Yeah. Yeah.

2948
01:51:49,176 --> 01:51:51,636
I have a rule for the 5 percent,

2949
01:51:51,796 --> 01:51:53,796
not for the 95 percent. You know, You

2950
01:51:53,796 --> 01:51:54,694
know, Right now

2951
01:51:55,706 --> 01:51:57,296
exactly. No. And I was gonna say it's

2952
01:51:57,296 --> 01:51:59,922
already it's already provided for in in the

2953
01:51:59,922 --> 01:52:01,910
constitution where it says you you can't be,

2954
01:52:01,989 --> 01:52:03,997
you deprived of life liberty or property without

2955
01:52:03,997 --> 01:52:05,829
due process of law. That's what that's supposed

2956
01:52:05,829 --> 01:52:08,378
to be. I mean, that's a that's a

2957
01:52:08,378 --> 01:52:10,088
situational standard. That

2958
01:52:10,699 --> 01:52:12,445
applies to all guns rights.

2959
01:52:13,716 --> 01:52:14,216
So

2960
01:52:14,588 --> 01:52:15,962
we got Donald to

2961
01:52:17,224 --> 01:52:19,218
look forward to in the Supreme Judicial court,

2962
01:52:19,298 --> 01:52:19,936
it sounds like.

2963
01:52:20,974 --> 01:52:23,926
We also have a very similar law that,

2964
01:52:25,536 --> 01:52:27,072
well, I guess it isn't really

2965
01:52:27,687 --> 01:52:28,882
totally similar, but

2966
01:52:29,599 --> 01:52:30,317
some of the,

2967
01:52:32,563 --> 01:52:35,273
the permitting schemes are starting to be,

2968
01:52:36,469 --> 01:52:38,781
not let's not call it permitting schemes. The

2969
01:52:38,781 --> 01:52:40,535
suit ability type of language,

2970
01:52:41,028 --> 01:52:43,972
that has long been hell upheld here in

2971
01:52:44,449 --> 01:52:44,847
Massachusetts.

2972
01:52:45,882 --> 01:52:48,587
We saw 2 different cases. 1 out of

2973
01:52:48,587 --> 01:52:50,074
ham in, I believe it was

2974
01:52:50,752 --> 01:52:52,268
Going out of fall river. Julio.

2975
01:52:52,827 --> 01:52:54,023
Yeah. Yeah. Holy oak. Thank you.

2976
01:52:54,820 --> 01:52:57,453
Where 2 people were denied their licensed to

2977
01:52:57,453 --> 01:52:58,431
carry by a...

2978
01:52:58,809 --> 01:53:01,218
Police chief on you know, he just said

2979
01:53:01,458 --> 01:53:02,337
and un suitable.

2980
01:53:02,896 --> 01:53:05,453
And both 1... I think the fall River

2981
01:53:05,453 --> 01:53:05,953
case

2982
01:53:06,332 --> 01:53:06,832
was

2983
01:53:08,024 --> 01:53:09,243
a little bit shorter

2984
01:53:09,863 --> 01:53:12,819
analysis than the ham in 1, but... Or

2985
01:53:12,899 --> 01:53:14,657
I'm... I might have those backwards. I can't

2986
01:53:14,657 --> 01:53:16,495
remember. But Mh. The long and short of

2987
01:53:16,495 --> 01:53:18,893
it was they said, look in post brewing

2988
01:53:18,893 --> 01:53:21,034
world. You can't just say, the guy is

2989
01:53:21,034 --> 01:53:24,072
ins suitable based on x you happen give

2990
01:53:24,364 --> 01:53:24,603
a...

2991
01:53:26,605 --> 01:53:27,105
Evidence

2992
01:53:27,878 --> 01:53:29,094
that has been ad

2993
01:53:29,628 --> 01:53:31,617
in a court. It can't You don't like

2994
01:53:31,617 --> 01:53:33,381
the guy. Know, and even even right after

2995
01:53:33,460 --> 01:53:33,778
Brew,

2996
01:53:34,413 --> 01:53:36,344
when the legislature scrambled

2997
01:53:36,877 --> 01:53:40,079
to stick that, you know, Brew security language

2998
01:53:40,373 --> 01:53:43,419
into, you the judiciary, the judicial bond bill.

2999
01:53:44,377 --> 01:53:46,074
It said that it it clarified

3000
01:53:47,490 --> 01:53:49,427
suit ability to be an

3001
01:53:51,176 --> 01:53:52,609
standards. So that it had to be something

3002
01:53:52,609 --> 01:53:54,838
that you could... That the the... I... Lit...

3003
01:53:54,997 --> 01:53:56,532
The licensing authority could

3004
01:53:57,306 --> 01:53:57,784
articulate.

3005
01:53:58,993 --> 01:54:01,857
Right. Explain. Yeah. It's fun asking the officers

3006
01:54:01,857 --> 01:54:04,801
on the stand. Can you articulate specifically want.

3007
01:54:05,278 --> 01:54:05,676
They're like,

3008
01:54:07,203 --> 01:54:07,703
because

3009
01:54:08,158 --> 01:54:08,898
I said

3010
01:54:09,990 --> 01:54:12,936
because he's bad guy. Yeah. Look at. I

3011
01:54:12,936 --> 01:54:14,211
don't like nike his neighbor.

3012
01:54:16,613 --> 01:54:18,703
So, you know, it's funny on the suit

3013
01:54:18,760 --> 01:54:19,896
piece because,

3014
01:54:20,430 --> 01:54:22,657
you know, as you see it now...

3015
01:54:23,945 --> 01:54:25,695
There is a way out,

3016
01:54:26,729 --> 01:54:29,195
at least a way that they can get

3017
01:54:29,195 --> 01:54:31,582
it narrow, net more narrow,

3018
01:54:32,074 --> 01:54:33,610
but that would require

3019
01:54:34,944 --> 01:54:38,930
limiting chief discretion. Meaning, Right for example, you

3020
01:54:38,930 --> 01:54:40,148
know, following Re,

3021
01:54:40,777 --> 01:54:43,021
the applicant has been

3022
01:54:43,949 --> 01:54:46,035
subject to a restraining order

3023
01:54:46,804 --> 01:54:48,073
issued after a hearing.

3024
01:54:48,643 --> 01:54:51,029
Over the past 5 years. Right? If they

3025
01:54:51,029 --> 01:54:53,256
did that, that would limit the discretion of

3026
01:54:53,256 --> 01:54:55,404
the chief to say, well, this was 6

3027
01:54:55,404 --> 01:54:58,206
years ago, I can't use it the legislature

3028
01:54:58,206 --> 01:54:58,684
won't do it.

3029
01:54:59,402 --> 01:55:00,698
Yeah. It's e

3030
01:55:01,315 --> 01:55:03,309
Yeah. E has the ability to regulate, and

3031
01:55:03,309 --> 01:55:04,904
they could do it. They can narrow the

3032
01:55:04,904 --> 01:55:05,780
chiefs discretion.

3033
01:55:06,432 --> 01:55:08,500
And I suspect that they did it right.

3034
01:55:09,215 --> 01:55:12,156
It may pass constitutional must. But as where

3035
01:55:12,156 --> 01:55:14,144
we're at right now, we're gonna need a

3036
01:55:14,144 --> 01:55:15,336
court to tell me you need can do

3037
01:55:15,336 --> 01:55:17,427
it. Yeah. But it and it's and it's

3038
01:55:17,427 --> 01:55:18,327
for a Crave

3039
01:55:18,706 --> 01:55:21,422
reason. It's it's it's it's a political consideration.

3040
01:55:21,582 --> 01:55:23,659
They need the chiefs. They they can't do

3041
01:55:23,659 --> 01:55:23,819
that.

3042
01:55:24,473 --> 01:55:24,633
Right.

3043
01:55:25,350 --> 01:55:25,510
Yep.

3044
01:55:26,307 --> 01:55:28,462
Alright. Last issue, and I'm gonna let you

3045
01:55:28,462 --> 01:55:31,572
guys go. Today, this would have dominated my

3046
01:55:31,572 --> 01:55:33,406
show if it weren't for everything else we've

3047
01:55:33,406 --> 01:55:34,776
already talked about. Mh.

3048
01:55:35,731 --> 01:55:36,470
A new

3049
01:55:40,031 --> 01:55:42,442
permission slip drop today from

3050
01:55:42,833 --> 01:55:45,224
the state saying which guns we can and

3051
01:55:45,224 --> 01:55:47,136
can't purchase from a licensed

3052
01:55:47,614 --> 01:55:50,086
Fl. The approved weapons roster came out.

3053
01:55:50,739 --> 01:55:51,718
And ironically,

3054
01:55:52,896 --> 01:55:54,994
it's gonna set up a showdown

3055
01:55:55,533 --> 01:55:57,851
between the state, if this log gets passed

3056
01:55:57,851 --> 01:55:59,744
that we've been talking about all day because

3057
01:55:59,943 --> 01:56:00,419
Guess what?

3058
01:56:01,451 --> 01:56:03,514
Out of all the guns that were,

3059
01:56:04,228 --> 01:56:05,815
added to the lists, Sa

3060
01:56:06,370 --> 01:56:06,529
Usa,

3061
01:56:07,260 --> 01:56:10,216
Has a couple of tactical models, which have

3062
01:56:10,216 --> 01:56:11,095
threaded barrels,

3063
01:56:11,574 --> 01:56:14,152
which are now gonna be an salty type

3064
01:56:14,211 --> 01:56:17,573
feature for the new salt style firearm, Yeah.

3065
01:56:17,812 --> 01:56:21,392
Criteria that's gonna ban threaded muzzle on pistols.

3066
01:56:22,109 --> 01:56:23,859
And there's a ton of other guns already

3067
01:56:23,859 --> 01:56:24,416
on the list,

3068
01:56:25,065 --> 01:56:27,364
h k makes some, a fan makes some

3069
01:56:27,364 --> 01:56:30,219
that have threaded barrels. There's... You. Not to

3070
01:56:30,219 --> 01:56:32,335
mention all the little 20 twos, like the

3071
01:56:32,693 --> 01:56:35,002
sig mosquito and the sig 322,

3072
01:56:35,321 --> 01:56:36,219
etcetera, etcetera.

3073
01:56:37,232 --> 01:56:39,860
So where does that leave, you know, this,

3074
01:56:40,099 --> 01:56:40,656
number 1,

3075
01:56:41,547 --> 01:56:43,060
Are they gonna just have to go back

3076
01:56:43,060 --> 01:56:44,833
and rehash the whole

3077
01:56:46,244 --> 01:56:47,996
approve weapons roster or are they gonna say,

3078
01:56:48,156 --> 01:56:50,001
even though it's on there, you can't continue

3079
01:56:50,001 --> 01:56:51,827
to buy it. Maybe you will. Yeah. That's

3080
01:56:51,827 --> 01:56:52,304
what they'll do.

3081
01:56:53,098 --> 01:56:55,798
Well, they're dismantling the g cab too. So

3082
01:56:55,798 --> 01:56:58,578
I. To advisory board, They're creating this new

3083
01:56:58,578 --> 01:57:01,211
board with political appoint who are gonna be

3084
01:57:01,211 --> 01:57:01,925
put in there.

3085
01:57:03,114 --> 01:57:05,969
Presumably from that, they're going to revisit all

3086
01:57:05,969 --> 01:57:06,761
of these lists,

3087
01:57:08,369 --> 01:57:09,804
and I... You know, I gotta be honest

3088
01:57:09,804 --> 01:57:11,739
and Mike Or toby. I haven't seen,

3089
01:57:12,912 --> 01:57:14,688
like, a revision of the

3090
01:57:15,238 --> 01:57:17,465
approve weapons ross or statute, at least when...

3091
01:57:17,942 --> 01:57:19,294
It wasn't what I was looking for, and

3092
01:57:19,373 --> 01:57:21,123
I haven't seen it in the 100 pages,

3093
01:57:21,363 --> 01:57:23,366
so You're right. Now there seems to be

3094
01:57:23,366 --> 01:57:26,150
a conflict between the approved weapons roster and

3095
01:57:26,150 --> 01:57:27,684
the assault weapon

3096
01:57:28,139 --> 01:57:30,310
band stuff. They could do what they did

3097
01:57:30,310 --> 01:57:32,070
with the block, where it's on the approved

3098
01:57:32,070 --> 01:57:33,750
weapons roster, but it doesn't meet the Ag

3099
01:57:33,750 --> 01:57:35,909
g's regulations. They could have it on the

3100
01:57:35,909 --> 01:57:37,590
approved weapons Roster, and then put it on

3101
01:57:37,590 --> 01:57:38,390
the assault weapon,

3102
01:57:39,122 --> 01:57:41,429
band list. So it's on the roster, so

3103
01:57:41,429 --> 01:57:43,099
people think you can buy it, but then

3104
01:57:43,099 --> 01:57:44,531
it's on the band list so you can.

3105
01:57:44,929 --> 01:57:45,486
Right. Yep.

3106
01:57:46,460 --> 01:57:49,039
And I... I mean, supremacy clause

3107
01:57:49,340 --> 01:57:52,619
I mean, doesn't statute win out over regulation

3108
01:57:52,619 --> 01:57:52,780
anyways.

3109
01:57:53,671 --> 01:57:55,020
That's what I was gonna say. What happened

3110
01:57:55,020 --> 01:57:57,718
at, like, whole exposed factors weird, like, you.

3111
01:57:58,115 --> 01:57:59,068
Yeah. What is it called?

3112
01:58:00,020 --> 01:58:00,257
The...

3113
01:58:01,469 --> 01:58:03,466
No. You have legislative intent where you... Where

3114
01:58:03,466 --> 01:58:04,526
the awards of the

3115
01:58:05,385 --> 01:58:07,382
legislation has to have meeting, and you can't

3116
01:58:07,382 --> 01:58:09,860
regulate away the words of statute. Right?

3117
01:58:10,753 --> 01:58:10,992
Right.

3118
01:58:12,508 --> 01:58:13,864
Yeah, it's madden.

3119
01:58:14,821 --> 01:58:16,975
Guys, Thanks so much for joining us, Mike.

3120
01:58:17,134 --> 01:58:18,570
Why don't you tell everyone where they can

3121
01:58:18,570 --> 01:58:19,845
go find out more at goal.

3122
01:58:20,499 --> 01:58:22,816
Owners actually. Yeah. So, gold dot org. It's

3123
01:58:22,816 --> 01:58:23,614
right on the front page.

3124
01:58:24,734 --> 01:58:25,613
We're on Instagram,

3125
01:58:27,210 --> 01:58:27,710
Facebook

3126
01:58:28,344 --> 01:58:30,283
everywhere. You guys got a podcast.

3127
01:58:30,822 --> 01:58:33,059
Yep. We got a podcast. Actually, Garrett sitting

3128
01:58:33,059 --> 01:58:35,217
right over here. Our our president is sitting

3129
01:58:35,217 --> 01:58:36,416
over here. We've been sitting here watching the

3130
01:58:36,416 --> 01:58:38,183
whole time, where he's he's helping us go

3131
01:58:38,183 --> 01:58:38,979
through the bill. But

3132
01:58:39,695 --> 01:58:42,083
yeah. I mean, we're we're taking this language

3133
01:58:42,083 --> 01:58:43,277
right now and we're going through it,

3134
01:58:43,993 --> 01:58:44,311
you know,

3135
01:58:46,636 --> 01:58:48,228
notwithstanding any new versions that might come out,

3136
01:58:48,387 --> 01:58:50,139
we'll we'll go into our comparison and fix

3137
01:58:50,139 --> 01:58:51,493
it, but for now we're going through this.

3138
01:58:52,051 --> 01:58:53,220
As soon as we get our

3139
01:58:53,657 --> 01:58:55,167
down and analysis done It'll be up there.

3140
01:58:55,326 --> 01:58:56,836
We're hoping within the next 24 hours or

3141
01:58:56,836 --> 01:58:58,982
so. And general working on that. But yeah,

3142
01:58:59,141 --> 01:59:00,572
gold dot org. Everything will be up there.

3143
01:59:01,064 --> 01:59:02,518
The that caucus

3144
01:59:02,972 --> 01:59:04,006
memo is up there.

3145
01:59:05,756 --> 01:59:08,381
And yeah. And and thanks to Jason for

3146
01:59:08,381 --> 01:59:10,545
sending that along to us. Yeah. Help. I

3147
01:59:10,545 --> 01:59:12,457
thank you leading it. So we don't have

3148
01:59:12,457 --> 01:59:14,608
to no. I'm just kidding identically at you

3149
01:59:14,608 --> 01:59:14,767
and

3150
01:59:15,644 --> 01:59:18,671
it's gonna be painful and to, but, there

3151
01:59:18,671 --> 01:59:19,718
we Here we go. And

3152
01:59:20,512 --> 01:59:22,895
and, Jason, I'm sure you're gonna be got

3153
01:59:22,895 --> 01:59:25,197
plenty of work for the next foreseeable future.

3154
01:59:25,356 --> 01:59:27,024
This thing to ask is even if it

3155
01:59:27,024 --> 01:59:27,738
doesn't, and

3156
01:59:28,708 --> 01:59:28,948
you know,

3157
01:59:30,305 --> 01:59:32,380
so is life in Massachusetts.

3158
01:59:33,417 --> 01:59:35,412
But where can people find you? Should they

3159
01:59:35,412 --> 01:59:36,391
need your services.

3160
01:59:37,023 --> 01:59:37,581
You've bet

3161
01:59:38,377 --> 01:59:41,087
log guide, LAWGUIDA

3162
01:59:41,087 --> 01:59:43,716
dot com. My website. My phone number is

3163
01:59:43,716 --> 01:59:45,866
on there. It's an emergency line 24 hours

3164
01:59:45,866 --> 01:59:46,993
a day. Here in trouble.

3165
01:59:47,708 --> 01:59:49,692
You, it's an emergency, the number's on there.

3166
01:59:50,802 --> 01:59:53,024
And I'm gonna plug goal real quick. Gun

3167
01:59:53,024 --> 01:59:54,452
is actually does a lot of work on

3168
01:59:54,452 --> 01:59:56,402
this You're stuff there. The ones putting this

3169
01:59:56,460 --> 01:59:58,373
information out there. If you're not a member

3170
01:59:58,373 --> 01:59:59,251
join. Yeah.

3171
02:00:00,049 --> 02:00:00,288
Yeah.

3172
02:00:01,324 --> 02:00:03,079
I appreciate that. And I'll also say for

3173
02:00:03,159 --> 02:00:04,729
Jason. If you don't remember all of that

3174
02:00:04,850 --> 02:00:06,689
stuff. Go to gold dot org, and you

3175
02:00:06,689 --> 02:00:08,609
go over to the right, there is a

3176
02:00:08,609 --> 02:00:09,750
section where we have

3177
02:00:10,289 --> 02:00:11,810
attorney referrals and he is on there. So

3178
02:00:11,810 --> 02:00:13,329
if you need his contact information, it's on

3179
02:00:13,329 --> 02:00:14,130
our website too.

3180
02:00:14,782 --> 02:00:16,688
Thanks. Well, it's good to know both you

3181
02:00:16,688 --> 02:00:18,277
are in our corner, and

3182
02:00:19,070 --> 02:00:22,009
we gotta fight this nonsense, and hopefully,

3183
02:00:22,802 --> 02:00:23,779
we will see

3184
02:00:24,167 --> 02:00:26,470
we'll come through the other side with with

3185
02:00:26,470 --> 02:00:27,423
a victory in hand.

3186
02:00:28,059 --> 02:00:29,988
Don't know how long it's gonna take, but

3187
02:00:30,123 --> 02:00:31,552
we gotta do it because otherwise,

3188
02:00:32,282 --> 02:00:34,984
this falls. It spreads like a nasty disease

3189
02:00:34,984 --> 02:00:36,493
and a virus for the rest of this

3190
02:00:36,493 --> 02:00:36,970
country. So...

3191
02:00:38,162 --> 02:00:40,308
Yeah. Thanks so much, guys. I appreciate you

3192
02:00:40,308 --> 02:00:40,547
both.

3193
02:00:41,199 --> 02:00:44,256
And we'll have you on again, and we'll

3194
02:00:44,395 --> 02:00:46,953
hopefully do this with some good news to

3195
02:00:46,953 --> 02:00:47,592
report something.

3196
02:00:48,152 --> 02:00:50,645
That'd be nice. Yeah. Wouldn't it. Alright. Alright.

3197
02:00:50,885 --> 02:00:53,765
God bless guys. Take care. Thanks, guys. Yep.

3198
02:00:54,005 --> 02:00:55,045
There you have it, guys.

3199
02:00:56,244 --> 02:00:57,045
Rapid fire.

3200
02:00:59,213 --> 02:01:00,644
We don't just bring you good news. We

3201
02:01:00,644 --> 02:01:02,018
bring you all the news and

3202
02:01:02,471 --> 02:01:04,060
today is a bad news day. So,

3203
02:01:07,412 --> 02:01:10,194
Seth, don't do anything sudden. Okay? Don't do

3204
02:01:10,194 --> 02:01:13,133
anything today. Other than buy what you want.

3205
02:01:13,371 --> 02:01:15,376
That's what I say. To call the action,

3206
02:01:16,014 --> 02:01:17,528
buy what you want, and

3207
02:01:18,484 --> 02:01:20,636
let's get this done in out of our

3208
02:01:20,636 --> 02:01:21,456
way forever,

3209
02:01:23,043 --> 02:01:25,297
call your legislators, your senators,

3210
02:01:25,675 --> 02:01:25,834
you're,

3211
02:01:26,950 --> 02:01:28,386
right now. Do it now.

3212
02:01:29,183 --> 02:01:31,416
They're there. They're they're doing their things.

3213
02:01:32,067 --> 02:01:33,814
And they're gonna vote on it tomorrow. So

3214
02:01:33,814 --> 02:01:35,800
you gotta make sure you vote. Alright. Rob

3215
02:01:35,800 --> 02:01:37,706
bless and I'll see y'all on the other

3216
02:01:37,706 --> 02:01:38,341
side. Take here.