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Broadcasting way too early from three

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separate Wi-Fi connections.

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It's PT Breakfast Club with Tony Meritato,

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Dave Kittle, and Jimmy McKay.

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Happy Thursday to you, Tony Meritato.

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Happy Thursday.

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It sounds busier there than usual.

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Are there more people there?

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Well, because Monday was a holiday.

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So, like,

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I'm going to do my best to stay

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for the hour, but we'll see what happens.

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Yeah, that's something that...

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I mean,

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I don't think other industries have to

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deal with, right?

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Or absorb if you're a restaurant.

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I think they do.

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The interesting question, though,

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is if you can do it,

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why don't you always do it?

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If we could double our schedule or add

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extra twenty percent spread over four

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days, why aren't we doing it?

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That's a good point.

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Yeah.

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Of course,

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referring to the fact that Monday was off

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and now you're not going to see four

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days worth of patients.

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You're going to see five days worth of

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patients in four days.

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Correct.

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You're going to increase by twenty

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percent.

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Let's start with a complaint today, Tony.

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OK.

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Somebody who's followed me on Instagram

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for a while.

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I won't call her out because that's not

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the point.

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But she has said like she made a

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comment like this.

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and I'll read it in a second,

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but it was essentially like, Jimmy,

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like canvas free,

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like you're using a lot of AI to

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create things.

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And I want to talk about,

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is it the what or the how?

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Right?

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Because there's emotion attached to both.

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What I mean by the what versus the

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how is like,

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I'm not creating a lot of like fake

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videos.

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Remember like a year ago,

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every time you'd make a human,

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they'd have like six fingers and be like,

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ah, that's AI and blah, blah, blah, blah,

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blah.

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So are you mad at like,

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you think the stuff?

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And the thing she commented on

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was an Instagram carousel done sort of

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like in Saturday morning cartoon style

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about all the mnemonics that we used in

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PT school,

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like how to remember the bones of the

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wrists and all the,

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that was my sort of like throwback.

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And she was like, canvas freak,

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a lot of AI on here.

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And I just wrote back two words.

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I wrote back Jevons paradox.

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And that's the idea that as something

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becomes more efficient,

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we don't use less of it,

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we use more of it.

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And then I'm like, are you mad?

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Because, listen,

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there is an environmental impact.

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But do you really think a physical therapy

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podcast host is changing climate?

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Like, do you really think I'm the one?

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Like, look at Citibank.

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Did you interpret it as you're wasting

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water and electricity on data centers

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promoting AI?

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Or was it just saying, like,

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I'm sick of seeing AI images?

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Yeah, that's what it... Oh,

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she just re-commented.

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Generative AI has a significantly greater

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environmental impact than traditional AI.

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Oh my gosh.

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Listen,

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if you don't like the pretty images or

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the ugly images I'm making,

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that is an editorial decision.

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Don't listen, don't watch, don't look.

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But if you really think me sharing an

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image of wrist bones...

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on Instagram, a platform, by the way,

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which has AI running in the background.

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Because I literally said later on,

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once she kept throwing stones, I was like,

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you know the platform we're arguing on is

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running on AI.

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Every time you type,

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it's reading it with AI.

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As well as the phone that we're arguing

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on.

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is also running on ai so i think

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i literally said and by the way tony

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i came up with this metaphor i didn't

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use ai for it it's literally you throwing

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glass rocks at a glass house yeah it

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just doesn't make any so you either don't

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like the content which is one thousand

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percent up to you don't do it

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But if you're mad at the tool that

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I'm using,

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I'd like to also see Citibank and Apple

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and Chevrolet.

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Trust me,

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they are going to out AI me before

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before nine oh one a.m.

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It's just so I just find this increasingly

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interesting is like now people find it

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like a call out.

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They'll be like, look, AI, look, AI.

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And I'm like,

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I don't think that's the burn you think

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it is.

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It might have been a year ago,

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but like.

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Like her response was literally use Canva.

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And I'm like,

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I'm a B minus graphic designer on Canva,

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but keep in mind all the tools running

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in the backgrounds that like improves

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color and reformats things or generates

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images.

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That's all AI.

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So you just asked me to use a

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different form?

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Or again,

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do you just not like the pictures?

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Is it an editorial decision or a how

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decision?

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So I just, I mean,

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you're someone who uses it a lot.

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Are you getting this at all?

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I have not yet.

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I'm sure it's out there.

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It's posturing.

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It's the flavor of the month.

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Save the planet.

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Don't use AI kind of stuff.

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But even if I did, I mean,

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like you, I don't care.

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Yeah, I'm sick too.

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I am kind of getting tired of the

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AI looking generated images.

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I think yours are great.

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We did that whole segment on,

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we took what was like a job posting

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and we reiterated on it two or three

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levels deep, made it look way better.

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My images, you know,

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you can tell when it's an AI generated

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image.

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Okay,

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it's just get a little tired of that

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trend.

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It's a trend, it'll evolve, it'll change.

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I hate to see people, you know,

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bringing the environmental impact into it

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because like you said, it's just absurd.

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Don't drive a car.

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Don't fly a plane.

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Don't do a million other things that have

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a bigger impact than generating an AI

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image and sharing it on Facebook.

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But, you know, it is what it is.

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Yeah, we're not going to.

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And I learned this a long time ago,

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and I think I mentioned it to you.

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I talked to a lot of people.

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So stop me if I already said this

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little diatribe.

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But when I learned that,

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like the amount of cans that we actually

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recycle and how much aluminum we get back

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is like a millionth of one percent.

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right you you feel good when you carry

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the bag you're like i'm putting the i'm

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gonna get something out of these these

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cans it's gonna be great and then you

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see the people from the recycling center

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like yeah we just throw most of it

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in a landfill it's just a different path

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to the landfill

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And this is where someone said,

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we're not going to regulate ourselves out

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of anything.

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That's at best a speed break.

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We're going to have to invent a solution,

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right?

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We're going to have to invent a better

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way to cool data centers or produce

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electricity.

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We're not going to minimize it.

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It just ain't going to happen.

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Why?

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because people like the pretty pictures

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too much.

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Sorry,

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you're trying to engineer human behavior.

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Well, this is a very clinical PT thing.

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It's like, oh my gosh,

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you could not do a leg extension machine

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because it puts shear force on the tibia

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and the ACL.

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And how could you even imagine doing that?

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Meanwhile,

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the person is doing that kind of motion

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throughout the day with various

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activities.

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like there is no bad exercise there is

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no bad machine there is no bad anything

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yet therapists love to over dramatize the

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impact of this it carries into all aspects

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of life this being another one

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Yeah.

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Augustana is saying it's ignorance that is

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most entitled.

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I don't know which direction you're going.

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Because to be honest with you, Augustana,

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you could be saying that for either side

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of the argument.

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We need to be specific about this.

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Are you mad at the output?

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Editorial decision.

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You don't like the trend.

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Thumbs up.

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Move along.

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Or you're mad at the tool I chose

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to use and I'm allowed to use.

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And that's also okay.

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I'm just going to ignore that.

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Well, I'm going to ignore both.

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Yeah.

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Talking about how we can essentially find

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an argument for anything,

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I'll try to find the video,

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but essentially,

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and I know this is going to shock

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you,

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Adam Meekins got into it with some

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American physio over...

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literally arguing about like that the kid

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was literally going on i call him a

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kid because he feels like he's you know

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eleven years old to me but he's just

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going on about like specific wrist

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position during an overhead press and i'm

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and i was that guy when i was

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in pt school i was like yeah at

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what angle of of pronation is the optimal

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and then i sort of got out to

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where humans live with the world and i

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was like does that actually how much does

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that matter how

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How much does it matter?

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And literally his argument was, well,

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Adam just lives on rage bait and

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marketing.

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And I'm like, my man,

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you're doing that right now.

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But okay, pot.

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Hello, kettle.

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Damn, that's black.

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What's the thing?

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Bruce Lee had a famous quote,

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to a novice,

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a punch is just a punch and a

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kick is just a kick.

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To an expert,

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a punch is so much more,

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a kick is so much more.

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But to the master,

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a punch is just a punch,

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a kick is just a kick.

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I have a student right now,

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I think I mentioned,

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we haven't taken students since before

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COVID.

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This is a high school girl.

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She's a senior.

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She's interested in PT or orthopedic

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surgery.

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So she's in the clinic and it gives

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me an opportunity to kind of go back

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and explore these ideas.

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We have a patient,

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patient's working with somebody else.

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I'm watching the patient do an exercise,

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a typical row.

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And I'm like, oh, that's pretty ugly,

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like ugly form, ugly technique,

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like doing all this kind of crazy stuff.

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But I grabbed the student.

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I'm like, look,

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look at what she's doing right now.

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Is that the way you would do a

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classic row?

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No,

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it's either too heavy for like an external

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rotation or it's too light for an actual

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row.

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But I said, what's the harm?

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She's not trying to be a bodybuilder.

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She's not trying to be an expert in

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the row.

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She's doing something.

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I can generate a case to support why

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what she is doing is probably closer to

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real world.

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If she's trying to pull the curtains or

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flip a sheet,

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that motion is probably real similar to

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what she would do in daily life.

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I'm going to let her do it.

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I'm not going to over cue her and

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correct her and fix every little nuance of

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every little thing that she's doing.

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But when I was a new grad or

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I was a new personal trainer,

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I learned all this cool information.

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You better believe I over-cued,

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over-corrected,

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over-exaggerated everything until I

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matured and I gained experience.

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I was like, you know what?

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It's still beneficial.

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It's better than sitting on the couch and

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it's not harmful or dangerous.

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I'm going to let her do it the

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way she's doing it.

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yep i love that quote from bruce lee

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because in several areas of my life i

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am a novice and and i'm not trying

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to put myself in the back just from

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repetition i'm like what you would call

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the master right and i can look at

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someone if i'm if i'm if i'm talking

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to someone about podcast creation and

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they're asking me what the optimal time to

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release a podcast is and i'm like

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I gotta be dead honest with you.

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It doesn't, it so doesn't matter.

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It's I'd rather you record three,

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it's the frequency.

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And they're focused on the optimal angle

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of the row and all those things in

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terms of like, well,

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should the title be this or like this?

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And I'm like, honestly,

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they're both pretty good.

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They're both A minuses.

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Like it really doesn't, it doesn't matter.

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And other aspects of my life,

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I'm such a novice.

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I'm asking those questions.

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where I'm still trying to wrap my head

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around, what are we doing here?

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So when you're the novice,

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you look at the micro and you're not

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looking at the macro enough.

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And when you're the master,

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I think you just,

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you're like in the big picture of this,

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this is going to matter.

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This is day one of four billion days

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that we're going to do this.

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Let's just do it.

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Let's, let's just,

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let's just do a bunch of B,

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I always say out of there are a

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thousand B minuses.

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If you're on time, you're late.

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If you're early, you're on time.

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I totally agree with the sentiment,

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but I think we got called out for

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starting the live at eight thirty one.

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Yeah.

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But due to the rotation of the earth,

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if you really wanted to think about it,

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you know.

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So everybody,

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everybody in the clinic for the last two

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days has been saying once you drive over

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the border from Ohio to Michigan,

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you got to set your clocks back a

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minute referencing the college game.

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Wait, I don't understand that.

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What does that mean?

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There was the Michigan game where the game

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was supposed to be over.

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One second, yeah.

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What's your view on that?

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You're in Ohio,

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and that's a Michigan thing.

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don't care i have no dog in the

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race i didn't grow up here so you

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know yeah i don't have a dog in

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the fight but that looked shade city if

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you're if you're western michigan i'm like

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yeah you can and literally like the sports

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pundits which just shows you how like

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tension and anger

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I'd be curious to see what the betting

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world looked like.

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Oh, my God.

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Who had bets?

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I did not even think about that.

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Wow.

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It shows you how little I bet.

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But, yeah.

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But I love the pundits the next day

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going, like, this is what good teams do.

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They're able to have a call and then

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have one.

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And when they get the last second,

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I'm like, nah, my man.

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That was a robbery.

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You would be completely reversed if

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Michigan got that done to them,

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in my opinion.

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That was a horrible,

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horrible call from where I sat.

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But they were saying they were literally

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saying like the game clock and the one

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on the stadium, they're off and, you know,

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according to and I'm like, really?

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I don't know, guys.

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This one looked pretty ugly.

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I think we talked about this and I

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want to move on to the next segment,

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but you're aware of like Ohio State when

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they're playing.

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And this is how bad I am.

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I don't even know Michigan versus Michigan

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State, who it is,

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but they cross out all the M's all

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over the campus.

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It is amazing.

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But when you think of like social media

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and attention and the rivalry and how it

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draws out all of these emotions, you know,

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again,

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this would be something I would look at

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and I would say, okay,

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I'm not part of this,

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but I recognize the impact and the power.

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How do I capture that and bring it

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into the physical therapy world,

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the physical therapy clinic?

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Can I harness that to help motivate my

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patients to push and improve and do the

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things they need to do more?

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Do I harness that in a way to

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attract and draw in more new patients and

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grow my business?

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There are so many aspects.

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And this is where...

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I would go to ChatGBT, Gemini, Claude.

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I'd start to talk about that.

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Yesterday,

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I spent probably an hour while I was

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driving using voice and going back and

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forth with, look,

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bring me up to speed on image likeness.

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I want to know how I can incorporate

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that into a physical therapy employment

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proposal.

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Got it.

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Because I don't want to just- NIL,

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you mean the college NIL.

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Is that what you mean?

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NIL, yeah.

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I don't want to just pay for clinical

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hours.

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I want to be able to say, hey,

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here's the base salary.

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If you want to earn more,

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here are the opportunities.

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And it really is NIL.

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It's look, how do we build your resources,

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your media?

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How do we incorporate that?

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Gosh.

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into an extra ten thousand a year fifteen

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thousand a year because it's gonna benefit

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my company just like it benefits the team

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to hire a well-known player right so so

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we had some interesting conversations on

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yeah that whole topic i mean i'm selfishly

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not selfishly thinking i i was thinking of

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something like that for my day job

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which is we've got all these people who

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are super smart,

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and they all have micro audiences, right?

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I look at the world like a map

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of little dots and Venn diagrams,

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and I'm like, well,

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I could try to grow one account to

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a million followers.

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That's hard, but that'd be good.

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Or I could grow like a thousand accounts

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to this many followers,

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and that's actually better because it'll

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touch more people in more ways.

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That goes back to my frequency, intensity,

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time, type, volume, and progression,

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not just exercise principles,

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also communication principles.

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So you might see ten videos from an

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account that has a million followers,

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or you might see a hundred videos spread

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across a hundred accounts one time.

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Which is better?

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I don't know.

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I don't know that one is better than

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the other.

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I'm going to noodle on that.

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Going back to the voice conversation,

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the thing that irks me,

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I pause when I'm talking,

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especially when I'm talking and iterating.

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I was on a long drive last weekend

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and I was working on my APTA Florida

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keynote thing that I'm going to do next

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week.

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Yes,

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I was using AI to noodle on the

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ideas.

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Why?

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Because I verbally process.

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But let me ask you this,

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when you pause,

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And if I'm using Claude,

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it sort of jumps in.

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I'm like, I need you to pause longer.

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Is there any,

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do you have a hack on how to

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do that?

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I don't usually use that version of voice.

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When I say voice,

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I'm saying voice to text.

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Got it.

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um but when i have done that it

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is it's it's i'm under pressure to get

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a continuous stream of words right so i

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i have thought about just telling it ahead

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of time give me time don't give me

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a response until i tell you or ask

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you for a response yeah i haven't done

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it but i i still live in the

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world of voice to text

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Scott's jumping in.

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Yeah.

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He's saying we now need PT agents to

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negotiate NIL contracts.

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I'll give away a negotiation strategy I

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use right now.

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Every once in a while,

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someone will find me.

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Most of the time it's on LinkedIn.

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It's a healthcare related thing.

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And they go,

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they look at me as like,

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go to market.

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Like, how do I market this?

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Nine times out of ten.

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It's so much work that's needed to get

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so little result that I'm like,

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I'm not in your budget range.

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Go do this yourself.

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Then they do and they realize how much

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work it is and they'd rather just pay.

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So what I do now,

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just like Scott here is saying,

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we need PT agents to negotiate NIL

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contracts.

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If Tony was like, hey,

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can I pick your brain on a project?

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Maybe we want to hire you.

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I record that call.

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Right.

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And I let them know I'm recording this

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call.

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I verbally sort of process, you know,

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what I'm thinking.

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I then go and noodle on the idea

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with AI after the call.

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And I put together a broad, high level.

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I'm not giving you detail because that's

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more effort scope of the project.

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And then I tell you,

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I'm not going to tell you how much

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I'm going to charge you.

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I'll work for whatever your AI tells me

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I should work for.

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But you have to put the following prompt

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in.

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So you're going to copy paste what I

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give you into your favorite AI.

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Then you're going to say,

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how much should this project cost?

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If executed by this person,

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then you copy paste my LinkedIn resume

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there and I'll work for whatever it says.

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Spoiler,

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it always says even way higher than I

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would comfortably pitch because people

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underestimate the ideas are cheap.

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The execution is where it's at,

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my friends.

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And somebody asked me to build a website

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the other day and they're like,

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I'll give you five hundred bucks.

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And I'm like,

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not worth getting off my couch for five

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hundred dollars to build your website.

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Could I build you a website?

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Yes.

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Would I build you a website that you're

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happy with?

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No,

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because we'd go back and forth sixty three

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times.

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That's death by ten thousand paper cuts.

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I don't want to deal with it.

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I'd rather go make five hundred bucks

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making funny videos that I think are funny

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on on Facebook and they'll pay me.

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That's the way I look at it.

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To Scott's point,

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we've been talking about Sturdy McGee's

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service through Dave.

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There are corporate recruiters out there.

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their innovation should be moving the

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needle toward this kind of thing.

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If I was a PT recruiter and I'm

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looking for therapists to match with

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therapy companies,

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I would understand the sign-on bonus,

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which really is an NIL contract to a

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certain degree.

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I would understand base salary and all

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that stuff,

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but then I would be innovating

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and taken proven lessons.

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And this was my conversation with AI.

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I was like, look,

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I know it's popular in college.

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It's moving into high school.

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Give me proven examples from high school

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or college that I can bring into and

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apply directly to physical therapy

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profession.

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Any recruiter should be including

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something like that.

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They are becoming

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an NIL agent,

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and then I would take it to the

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educational system.

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Like why aren't colleges and universities

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that have VPT programs, PTA programs,

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why aren't they offering these kinds of

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opportunities to potential candidates,

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students in the program right now?

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If I'm a student athlete,

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the the sport department is offering me

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money if you want me to come to

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you as a student in the dpt program

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i know you're struggling for students you

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want the best qualified candidates give me

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a stipend give me something i will create

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content we will do daily videos to build

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the the you know uh visible front to

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your program and get you more students get

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you more candidates if you can attribute

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it

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The answer is yes.

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A hundred percent yes.

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And I would be comfortable with this deal.

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There's a couple of different ways you can

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structure it.

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Flat fee.

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If you do X, we get Y.

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Don't do that.

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Neither party should do that.

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Why?

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Because then I'll just do the bottom line.

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I'll just do what you told me.

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But if I have at least some skin

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in the game...

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I will work harder and be more creative

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and I will adapt.

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The other end of the model out of

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flat fee is pay for play, right?

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For every X that comes in, again,

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final attribution is key here, right?

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How they make that decision.

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You can say for every new student who

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comes in,

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because you're part of this program,

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you get X. I would do a hybrid.

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The answer is usually in the middle.

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I would do you get a flat fee

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for doing, but the real kicker,

00:22:47.836 --> 00:22:48.978
the real money kicks in,

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the real reason to do it is when

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both parties are aligned.

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This is sort of like instead of me

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paying you to create short form videos for

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me and here's fifty dollars per video.

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I just say every video that gets more

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than ten thousand views,

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I pay you three hundred dollars.

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And now you're like, got it.

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I don't care how many videos you make.

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I want to I care.

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What do I really care about?

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I care about the amount of attention I

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want to put.

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But if I'm just paying you per video,

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your job is hit ten videos today.

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I want you thinking along what I'm aligned

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with,

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which is amount of attention for a

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specific audience.

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I think a PT program or a recruiter

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would be ripe for something like that.

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There was the guy.

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So we explored a lot of those payment

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structures.

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There are structures that you can't take

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into healthcare.

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You can't pay like a commission on getting

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a client for the clinic.

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Some of the preferred payment structures

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were like either a flat rate per video,

00:23:50.353 --> 00:23:53.953
or you create a digital course,

00:23:53.993 --> 00:23:54.874
a digital product,

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and we pay for that product.

00:24:00.542 --> 00:24:01.423
Josh Funk.

00:24:02.144 --> 00:24:02.763
What is he on?

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Rehab to perform.

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I think it was him.

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He, his company,

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he had a guy long flow.

00:24:11.748 --> 00:24:12.008
Yeah.

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Great on camera.

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Smart guy.

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Great videos.

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Yeah.

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I forget his name, but yeah.

00:24:16.190 --> 00:24:16.490
Trent.

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So I don't know.

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So he's, he's on his own now.

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Right.

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And like that, that was one of the,

00:24:21.972 --> 00:24:23.713
the things I was thinking about.

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I was like, what, you know,

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I don't think his content was on the

00:24:28.516 --> 00:24:30.057
company sites and,

00:24:30.321 --> 00:24:32.704
but he technically would have been a

00:24:32.765 --> 00:24:34.286
magnet for that company.

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I don't think there was any compensation

00:24:38.029 --> 00:24:39.451
being exchanged between them,

00:24:39.471 --> 00:24:40.292
but I have no idea.

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I'm just looking from the outside in.

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That's why platforms like Facebook and

00:24:45.103 --> 00:24:46.583
Instagram has been doing it for a while.

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Allow this collaboration.

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Like I will create things on my channel

00:24:50.963 --> 00:24:53.644
and I'll tag prompt or I'll tag APTA

00:24:53.683 --> 00:24:55.424
Florida if we're working together,

00:24:55.444 --> 00:24:58.125
because why wouldn't I,

00:24:58.205 --> 00:25:00.965
why wouldn't they want to allow that?

00:25:01.165 --> 00:25:01.526
Right?

00:25:01.605 --> 00:25:03.446
Like the rising tide is going to show

00:25:03.467 --> 00:25:04.567
it to both our audiences.

00:25:05.074 --> 00:25:06.455
I don't think the features really...

00:25:06.955 --> 00:25:07.896
Like with this show.

00:25:08.698 --> 00:25:10.059
I publish it separately.

00:25:10.119 --> 00:25:12.102
We don't collaborate on YouTube,

00:25:12.122 --> 00:25:12.843
but we could.

00:25:13.022 --> 00:25:13.683
Could we?

00:25:14.424 --> 00:25:14.845
We could.

00:25:15.306 --> 00:25:17.528
YouTube has the collaboration option.

00:25:17.567 --> 00:25:18.829
That's new, though, right?

00:25:18.910 --> 00:25:20.050
It's relatively new.

00:25:20.892 --> 00:25:21.972
The trouble is...

00:25:23.911 --> 00:25:24.191
You know,

00:25:24.490 --> 00:25:27.392
if I have it posted on my channel

00:25:27.432 --> 00:25:30.073
and I collaborate with PT Pinecast,

00:25:30.093 --> 00:25:31.453
you don't get credit for any of the

00:25:31.473 --> 00:25:31.854
views.

00:25:31.894 --> 00:25:33.913
You don't get credit for any of the

00:25:33.973 --> 00:25:35.714
success of the video.

00:25:36.335 --> 00:25:37.875
And I haven't really seen because I've

00:25:37.895 --> 00:25:38.976
looked into it a lot.

00:25:39.155 --> 00:25:42.176
I haven't seen any real benefit to

00:25:42.217 --> 00:25:45.298
collaborating between two content

00:25:45.337 --> 00:25:46.018
creators.

00:25:46.398 --> 00:25:48.199
What about on Instagram with

00:25:48.259 --> 00:25:48.919
collaborations?

00:25:49.019 --> 00:25:50.180
I've seen some bumps there.

00:25:51.000 --> 00:25:52.662
Have you?

00:25:52.682 --> 00:25:52.882
I haven't.

00:25:52.902 --> 00:25:53.903
That was my strategy,

00:25:53.923 --> 00:25:54.784
and I went away from it.

00:25:54.824 --> 00:25:57.144
Maybe I'll do a real science experiment.

00:25:57.605 --> 00:25:59.307
There was a series of videos where I

00:25:59.326 --> 00:26:02.808
was highlighting people that I follow.

00:26:02.828 --> 00:26:06.451
There was a registered dietitian, Dr.

00:26:06.471 --> 00:26:08.211
Jessica Nurick, who's great.

00:26:08.232 --> 00:26:10.193
She just does a lot of great nutrition.

00:26:10.854 --> 00:26:12.694
I essentially made a hype video for her

00:26:12.855 --> 00:26:14.036
where I looked into the camera and I

00:26:14.076 --> 00:26:16.837
said, if you're not following Dr. Nurick,

00:26:17.419 --> 00:26:18.819
you should, and here's why.

00:26:18.900 --> 00:26:20.540
Reason one, reason two, reason three.

00:26:21.721 --> 00:26:22.362
I don't know her.

00:26:22.701 --> 00:26:24.002
I don't know her from anything.

00:26:24.462 --> 00:26:26.003
But I made her or I offered her

00:26:26.044 --> 00:26:27.384
the chance to be a collaborator.

00:26:27.463 --> 00:26:28.625
She saw that come up.

00:26:29.285 --> 00:26:30.925
I'm guessing her or probably her team

00:26:30.945 --> 00:26:32.067
because she's probably got a team for

00:26:32.086 --> 00:26:32.747
this, I would hope.

00:26:33.507 --> 00:26:34.548
And they looked at it and was like,

00:26:34.587 --> 00:26:35.788
yo, there's a hype video for us.

00:26:35.808 --> 00:26:36.489
Who's this guy?

00:26:36.548 --> 00:26:37.430
And they accepted it.

00:26:37.509 --> 00:26:40.951
And that video performed thousands of

00:26:41.010 --> 00:26:44.113
percent higher than my typical videos.

00:26:44.472 --> 00:26:46.153
So I think that's I think it depends

00:26:46.173 --> 00:26:46.794
on the platform.

00:26:46.814 --> 00:26:47.634
But I think you're right.

00:26:48.450 --> 00:26:49.329
With YouTube,

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I don't know that they've figured that out

00:26:51.211 --> 00:26:51.691
just yet.

00:26:51.730 --> 00:26:52.951
But the fact that they're starting to add

00:26:52.971 --> 00:26:55.972
these features tells me they want to start

00:26:56.232 --> 00:26:57.693
incentivizing collaborations.

00:26:58.094 --> 00:26:58.273
I mean,

00:26:58.334 --> 00:26:59.634
brand collabs have been around for a

00:26:59.654 --> 00:27:00.315
billion years, right?

00:27:00.634 --> 00:27:02.015
Kim Kardashian's been doing this since

00:27:02.695 --> 00:27:03.395
Twitter and Facebook.

00:27:03.415 --> 00:27:05.416
Yeah.

00:27:05.817 --> 00:27:08.357
I just don't know if necessarily the

00:27:08.518 --> 00:27:09.617
formal collab,

00:27:09.659 --> 00:27:10.479
and even for you…

00:27:11.913 --> 00:27:14.057
I would kind of say like you were

00:27:14.096 --> 00:27:16.019
collaborating or tagging or whatever,

00:27:16.359 --> 00:27:18.201
bigger channels or smaller channels.

00:27:18.422 --> 00:27:19.864
Always bigger for me.

00:27:20.003 --> 00:27:20.224
Yeah.

00:27:20.585 --> 00:27:22.186
So I think there might be a little

00:27:22.247 --> 00:27:23.249
lift for you.

00:27:24.170 --> 00:27:24.410
Um,

00:27:24.830 --> 00:27:27.253
plus it was your video on your channel.

00:27:29.374 --> 00:27:31.075
Not them tagging you.

00:27:31.435 --> 00:27:33.457
But when you do a collaboration,

00:27:33.477 --> 00:27:34.518
at least through Instagram,

00:27:34.637 --> 00:27:36.638
it now appears to be your video if

00:27:36.659 --> 00:27:37.338
you accept it.

00:27:37.358 --> 00:27:39.260
Okay.

00:27:39.280 --> 00:27:41.842
So that's like it's the physics of the

00:27:41.882 --> 00:27:42.982
program, I think, a little bit,

00:27:43.022 --> 00:27:43.723
which is important,

00:27:43.864 --> 00:27:45.664
understanding what these words mean and

00:27:45.684 --> 00:27:46.265
how they work.

00:27:47.405 --> 00:27:48.866
When you accept a collab,

00:27:49.007 --> 00:27:51.327
now here's where it wouldn't work.

00:27:51.528 --> 00:27:53.049
If you're talking to patients,

00:27:53.109 --> 00:27:54.529
if your Instagram channel is talking to

00:27:54.611 --> 00:27:55.230
patients,

00:27:55.530 --> 00:27:57.251
if you're consumer-facing and I'm

00:27:57.311 --> 00:27:58.113
industry-facing,

00:27:59.875 --> 00:28:01.375
I wouldn't want those followers.

00:28:01.916 --> 00:28:03.017
And let me walk you through the thought

00:28:03.057 --> 00:28:03.577
process.

00:28:03.617 --> 00:28:04.538
You tell me if I'm right.

00:28:04.617 --> 00:28:05.898
And then so the audience makes sure they

00:28:05.919 --> 00:28:06.359
understand.

00:28:07.167 --> 00:28:09.269
if I gained a thousand new followers from

00:28:09.308 --> 00:28:10.529
Tony's channel, cause they're like,

00:28:10.549 --> 00:28:11.309
this guy looks cool.

00:28:12.070 --> 00:28:13.511
And then they see my content for a

00:28:13.551 --> 00:28:14.892
month, but they always blow past it.

00:28:14.912 --> 00:28:15.353
Cause they're like,

00:28:15.413 --> 00:28:16.613
I don't care about what physical

00:28:16.633 --> 00:28:17.453
therapists care about.

00:28:17.953 --> 00:28:19.515
Instagram reads that as Jimmy stuff.

00:28:19.555 --> 00:28:20.075
Ain't no good.

00:28:20.695 --> 00:28:21.195
I don't want to,

00:28:21.336 --> 00:28:22.757
I don't want to buy bots.

00:28:22.777 --> 00:28:23.876
I don't want to buy a follower.

00:28:24.417 --> 00:28:26.219
That's going to hurt me long run.

00:28:26.298 --> 00:28:28.099
It's going to be a beauty pageant metric.

00:28:28.140 --> 00:28:29.861
It's going to look cute on the follower

00:28:29.941 --> 00:28:30.260
count,

00:28:30.881 --> 00:28:32.461
but it's going to hurt you where it

00:28:32.521 --> 00:28:32.883
matters,

00:28:32.923 --> 00:28:34.804
which is longterm and being shown to

00:28:34.864 --> 00:28:35.364
people that,

00:28:36.367 --> 00:28:38.569
It's the audience is giving signals that

00:28:38.630 --> 00:28:39.530
this isn't good.

00:28:39.971 --> 00:28:41.232
The algorithm doesn't know good or bad.

00:28:41.252 --> 00:28:42.493
It just knows interaction or not

00:28:42.554 --> 00:28:44.175
interaction, attention or not attention.

00:28:44.435 --> 00:28:46.738
So you wouldn't want followers that are

00:28:46.798 --> 00:28:47.839
outside your scope.

00:28:48.099 --> 00:28:48.779
You really wouldn't.

00:28:51.403 --> 00:28:53.204
And even to the point where you don't,

00:28:53.285 --> 00:28:54.946
you don't want to get friends and family

00:28:54.987 --> 00:28:56.127
following you because they don't care

00:28:56.147 --> 00:28:57.108
about your content.

00:28:57.890 --> 00:29:00.092
And every time I ask any of the

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AI platforms,

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should I start running paid ads to grow

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my audience?

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The answer is always no.

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Because I'm getting so much organic

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growth.

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I'm getting ten to fifteen thousand

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followers a month.

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If I start running paid ads to try

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and get more followers,

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those are low intent followers.

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They might be kind of interested,

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but not really interested.

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So then I started getting more building a

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community of lukewarm.

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As opposed to right now, it's like,

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I found your content.

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It's amazing.

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I binge watch every one of your videos.

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I can't get enough.

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That's who I want.

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And, and that's the organic, you know,

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growth that will accelerate better than

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anything.

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Yeah.

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Agreed.

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Um, let me just,

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I just got to update something for, uh,

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for, for, uh,

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Yeah.

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While you're doing that, uh,

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earlier this morning we talked,

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I shared an idea about the day challenge.

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If you said that you had some ideas

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about that,

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I think I just liked it in general.

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I think I was like, yeah, I mean,

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I'm just as guilty as anybody else.

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I come out hot and then say,

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I'm going to do the challenge and then,

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you know, I fall off.

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But I think that's the reason for the

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challenge.

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Right.

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Which is like, let's get, let's get,

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let's build a habit.

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What do you think off the top of

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your head, like you, you want to,

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I'm guessing publish more.

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Yeah.

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Frequency.

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It's the biggest lever and it's the one

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that matters.

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How,

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how many pieces of content are you

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publishing daily right now?

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Any idea?

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No, I go through spurts someday.

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I someday I'm like, I got to slow,

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you know, I got to spread this out.

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And some days I'm like,

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I haven't done anything in three days.

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I am, I am the model of inconsistent,

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consistent inconsistencies.

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So on average, yes?

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I mean,

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some days eight and some days one.

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On average, you know, four.

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You know, I started with one a day.

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I moved to three a day.

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Then I hit ten a day.

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Then for like two months,

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I was at twenty a day.

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Twenty a day.

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Now,

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are you counting like twenty on one

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platform or twenty on a couple?

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No, no.

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Like twenty pieces of content.

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So Facebook right now for a year and

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a half has been my benchmark.

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Twenty individual posts.

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on facebook that doesn't in cloud include

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sharing it to stories it doesn't include

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sharing one post into multiple groups um

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like it's it's twenty pieces of content

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now all of those don't go to other

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platforms if it's a text post on facebook

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i can't share a text post unless it's

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a screenshot on instagram but here here is

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the idea for the audience that i pitched

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to jimmy this morning um

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Oh, my goodness.

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Let's share this and then we probably need

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to wrap it up because there's too many

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people out there.

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A twenty eight day challenge.

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I'm doing that because it's four discrete

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weeks looking at originally I started with

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ten pieces of content a day,

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but in reality it's ten reels a day.

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And then from the reel,

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you pull a photo and then from that

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you pull a text post.

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So you really have thirty pieces of unique

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content daily.

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Right.

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My bottleneck has always been

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What are the ideas?

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How do I keep the ideas organized?

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How do I iterate?

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So I did some work with ChatCPT.

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I created a framework.

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It connected to a spreadsheet.

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And I was like, OK,

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I can do this.

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Give me ten unique ideas.

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Let's go twenty-eight days.

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Create a content schedule.

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And look, there are ninety...

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I laid it out for ninety to a

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hundred and twenty second reels.

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So I'm like,

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can I seriously not answer a question,

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ten questions a day?

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Of course we answer fifty questions a day.

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I'm happy to share the format,

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the framework, the spreadsheet.

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I think it could be taken because I

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also said it's got to be specific to

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total knee replacement or osteoarthritis

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of the knee.

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Do not go outside of that niche because

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that is my community.

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primarily adults, and let's go from there.

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So it created buckets, content,

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idea buckets,

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almost like chapters in a book,

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an anatomy post, a motivation post,

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a this, a that.

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Yeah, and I think it's totally doable.

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Go ahead.

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Yeah,

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what you need to do is set up

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a system like the board game Mousetrap,

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and then the magic's in the boring.

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Yeah.

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The magic is waking up and being like,

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going to go back to the salt mine.

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Again,

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I have one of the coolest jobs on

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the planet, in my opinion,

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which is running a radio station.

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But day six hundred ninety seven,

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it was like, well,

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how are we going to revolutionize this

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today?

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Well, today we're running the machine.

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Today we're going to do all the boring

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stuff.

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We're going to record and we're going to

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do whatever the boring stuff was.

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And we're going to do that four hundred

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times.

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And then we're going to go get to

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stand on stage with Linkin Park.

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But you've got to do the four hundred

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pushups before you can go get the reward

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for the big triceps.

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All right.

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parting shot i will i've got the format

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ready i will probably tuesday because i

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think this would be a good project for

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dave with all the work that dave's doing

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i'll share the full details and everything

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anybody wants to participate there's no

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charge it's just a fun project we can

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do to get the motivation to create the

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content at scale yeah i'll reiterate your

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parting shot by saying um

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The swings of the batter are virtually

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free,

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and the results that you're not getting is

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hiding in work that you're not doing.

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This is the work.

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We'll see you guys on Tuesday.

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Tony's got to go hold it down.

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That's it.

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We're out.

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Boys, what the hell are you doing?

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Follow Tony Meritato on YouTube at Total

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Therapy Solution.

00:35:03.980 --> 00:35:04.980
Find Dave Kittle at

00:35:05.000 --> 00:35:08.201
conciergepainrelief.com and on YouTube at

00:35:08.240 --> 00:35:09.561
The Dave Kittle Show.

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And follow Jimmy McKay at PT Podcasts on

00:35:12.742 --> 00:35:14.021
YouTube, the socials,

00:35:14.121 --> 00:35:15.902
and wherever you binge podcasts you

00:35:15.942 --> 00:35:17.583
pretend are for CEUs.

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And hey, just a reminder,

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none of this was for advice.

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This was for entertainment only.

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Our lawyers say that counts.

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Thanks, Keith.

