WEBVTT 00:00:00.269 --> 00:00:02.229 You're listening to the PT Podcast, 00:00:02.371 --> 00:00:04.392 where smart people in healthcare come to 00:00:04.411 --> 00:00:05.593 make noise. 00:00:05.633 --> 00:00:07.134 Here's your host, Jimmy McKay. 00:00:07.174 --> 00:00:10.375 All right, cheers. 00:00:10.435 --> 00:00:11.657 Let's get into this episode. 00:00:11.957 --> 00:00:13.278 It's brought to you by Sarah Health. 00:00:13.317 --> 00:00:15.198 If your front desk still sounds like it's 00:00:15.278 --> 00:00:17.940 juggling phones all day, you're not alone. 00:00:18.341 --> 00:00:20.141 Missed calls mean missed visits, 00:00:20.422 --> 00:00:21.062 and that adds up. 00:00:22.024 --> 00:00:22.783 Sarah Health, 00:00:22.884 --> 00:00:25.245 helping you keep connected with those 00:00:25.286 --> 00:00:27.547 patients who might be calling between 00:00:27.788 --> 00:00:29.268 those visits. 00:00:30.289 --> 00:00:32.009 um uh letting you making sure you can 00:00:32.030 --> 00:00:34.371 get reimbursed for remote therapeutic 00:00:34.411 --> 00:00:35.813 monitoring and those codes that are 00:00:35.972 --> 00:00:37.533 already being used right now by some of 00:00:37.554 --> 00:00:40.075 your colleagues and making it simple which 00:00:40.115 --> 00:00:42.616 means they do it via text messages and 00:00:42.676 --> 00:00:44.938 not in an app which means no login 00:00:45.018 --> 00:00:47.119 no forgot whatever uh reaching out and 00:00:47.140 --> 00:00:48.280 connecting so find them all on 00:00:48.320 --> 00:00:51.481 sarahhealth.com that is sarah s-a-r-a 00:00:51.561 --> 00:00:51.902 health 00:00:53.768 --> 00:00:53.889 Now, 00:00:54.049 --> 00:00:56.072 most physical therapists focus on getting 00:00:56.112 --> 00:00:57.453 better at treating patients, 00:00:57.814 --> 00:01:00.036 but the ones who build lasting careers in 00:01:00.095 --> 00:01:02.838 businesses usually do something else 00:01:03.619 --> 00:01:04.480 entirely. 00:01:05.001 --> 00:01:07.564 They plug into something bigger than just 00:01:07.584 --> 00:01:08.165 themselves. 00:01:09.045 --> 00:01:10.765 They go out and find mentors, 00:01:10.805 --> 00:01:12.346 they build networks, 00:01:12.646 --> 00:01:14.885 and they stay involved in shaping their 00:01:14.926 --> 00:01:15.445 profession. 00:01:15.525 --> 00:01:16.126 And in turn, 00:01:16.165 --> 00:01:18.626 the profession winds up shaping them. 00:01:19.266 --> 00:01:22.007 Today's guest has spent decades doing just 00:01:22.027 --> 00:01:24.048 that, while building a private practice, 00:01:24.108 --> 00:01:25.487 teaching the next generation, 00:01:25.748 --> 00:01:27.888 and helping lead one of the most active 00:01:27.927 --> 00:01:29.989 physical therapist and physical therapist 00:01:30.069 --> 00:01:32.429 assistant communities in the country. 00:01:32.929 --> 00:01:34.650 And now she's helping bring that entire 00:01:34.689 --> 00:01:36.549 community together in one spot 00:01:37.250 --> 00:01:38.911 IRL, in real life, in person, 00:01:39.311 --> 00:01:41.412 to celebrate where the profession's been, 00:01:42.013 --> 00:01:43.993 dot, dot, dot, and where it's going. 00:01:44.573 --> 00:01:46.715 Let's bring in Edie Benner to the show. 00:01:46.775 --> 00:01:47.615 Edie, welcome to the program. 00:01:47.956 --> 00:01:48.996 Thank you so much, Jimmy. 00:01:49.016 --> 00:01:50.218 It's great to be on the show. 00:01:50.617 --> 00:01:51.358 How was that intro? 00:01:51.378 --> 00:01:52.959 Was that pretty, was I close to, 00:01:53.118 --> 00:01:53.618 you know? 00:01:53.638 --> 00:01:54.140 Nailed it. 00:01:54.739 --> 00:01:55.420 All right, good. 00:01:55.861 --> 00:01:56.561 You're on target. 00:01:56.600 --> 00:01:58.162 We are ready to have some fun this 00:01:58.201 --> 00:01:58.542 year. 00:01:58.762 --> 00:02:01.843 And thanks to just all the years of 00:02:01.884 --> 00:02:04.004 being able to connect with friends and 00:02:04.045 --> 00:02:04.906 colleagues and 00:02:05.290 --> 00:02:06.891 mentors and students. 00:02:07.111 --> 00:02:10.731 It's just great to be a part of 00:02:11.372 --> 00:02:14.033 your show and carry on some excitement for 00:02:14.633 --> 00:02:16.715 our events here in Ohio, too, 00:02:16.754 --> 00:02:19.355 that many other states are getting ready 00:02:19.395 --> 00:02:23.877 to celebrate various types of exciting 00:02:23.937 --> 00:02:25.919 events and occurrences and anniversaries 00:02:25.959 --> 00:02:27.338 and birthdays and their leaders. 00:02:27.399 --> 00:02:28.319 And it's just great. 00:02:28.921 --> 00:02:30.103 Yeah, big milestones. 00:02:30.543 --> 00:02:31.223 Let's start with you. 00:02:31.582 --> 00:02:33.183 You've worn a lot of hats, clinic owner, 00:02:33.283 --> 00:02:35.425 educator, association leader. 00:02:35.745 --> 00:02:39.106 What made you get involved and stay 00:02:39.227 --> 00:02:42.588 involved in the profession beyond treating 00:02:42.628 --> 00:02:43.568 patients like you did? 00:02:44.508 --> 00:02:46.030 It started back in school. 00:02:46.490 --> 00:02:48.951 I went to the University of Miami back 00:02:49.012 --> 00:02:49.752 in the heyday, 00:02:50.012 --> 00:02:52.353 and I think we went to our district 00:02:52.393 --> 00:02:52.853 meetings. 00:02:53.213 --> 00:02:55.354 We went up to Orlando to the state 00:02:55.395 --> 00:02:56.034 association. 00:02:57.534 --> 00:02:59.655 meetings and then when I got to be 00:02:59.854 --> 00:03:02.096 a clinician right away I was in a 00:03:02.116 --> 00:03:04.515 large facility and all the therapists were 00:03:04.536 --> 00:03:07.296 engaged they were mentors to me they were 00:03:07.317 --> 00:03:09.576 my peers they weren't only just clinic 00:03:09.616 --> 00:03:12.177 mentors we went to the local district 00:03:12.198 --> 00:03:13.578 meetings that was back in the day when 00:03:13.598 --> 00:03:16.018 you went to district meetings every month 00:03:16.057 --> 00:03:17.979 and then you stopped for a beer afterwards 00:03:18.158 --> 00:03:20.318 and everybody connected and guess what 00:03:20.739 --> 00:03:22.860 those friends are still friends now and I 00:03:22.919 --> 00:03:25.460 hope many of them are continuing to uh 00:03:25.707 --> 00:03:27.128 be a part of the association. 00:03:27.709 --> 00:03:27.849 Yeah. 00:03:28.250 --> 00:03:30.692 So it sounds like you tried it a 00:03:30.711 --> 00:03:33.213 little bit and you found something or some 00:03:33.253 --> 00:03:34.875 things there when you were in person that 00:03:34.895 --> 00:03:35.594 you said, Ooh, 00:03:36.036 --> 00:03:37.937 I didn't expect this to be here or 00:03:37.977 --> 00:03:39.177 didn't know about this. 00:03:39.617 --> 00:03:41.460 And that led to the answer is always 00:03:41.500 --> 00:03:42.881 people that led to people, 00:03:43.260 --> 00:03:44.322 which led to more things, 00:03:44.342 --> 00:03:45.462 which leads to more people. 00:03:45.862 --> 00:03:47.764 And it just builds a, a network. 00:03:48.025 --> 00:03:49.286 You know, some people will point to, well, 00:03:49.306 --> 00:03:50.727 how many connections do you have on 00:03:50.787 --> 00:03:51.127 LinkedIn? 00:03:51.146 --> 00:03:51.807 And that's nice. 00:03:51.888 --> 00:03:53.528 But to me, that's a beauty pageant metric. 00:03:53.929 --> 00:03:56.210 The real connections are someone you know 00:03:56.251 --> 00:03:58.032 well enough that you can call or text 00:03:58.372 --> 00:04:00.453 or when you see, you understand, 00:04:00.592 --> 00:04:02.373 number one, how you get to help them. 00:04:02.875 --> 00:04:04.375 And then the funny part is eventually it 00:04:04.395 --> 00:04:05.235 sort of does come back. 00:04:05.822 --> 00:04:06.342 It does. 00:04:06.382 --> 00:04:08.963 It goes full circle and it just continues 00:04:09.024 --> 00:04:13.066 to create like a whirling cyclone effect 00:04:13.086 --> 00:04:15.667 because those friends from years ago in 00:04:15.706 --> 00:04:17.627 this case are still friends. 00:04:18.148 --> 00:04:19.129 And the friends that I met, 00:04:19.369 --> 00:04:21.430 even students today when I was up at 00:04:21.850 --> 00:04:22.891 Cleveland State teaching, 00:04:22.930 --> 00:04:24.411 those students are already starting to 00:04:24.432 --> 00:04:24.771 become 00:04:25.305 --> 00:04:27.805 friends and they're just so excited about 00:04:27.846 --> 00:04:28.567 the profession. 00:04:28.966 --> 00:04:30.206 And there's still so many of us who've 00:04:30.226 --> 00:04:31.887 been doing this for a few years that 00:04:31.947 --> 00:04:33.809 are still excited to be a part of 00:04:33.829 --> 00:04:36.329 the profession and celebrate so many 00:04:36.370 --> 00:04:36.990 milestones, 00:04:37.031 --> 00:04:39.211 whether it's in our district level, 00:04:39.252 --> 00:04:41.432 within our facilities, our state level, 00:04:41.952 --> 00:04:42.853 our national level, 00:04:42.913 --> 00:04:44.473 or even shoot with the whole world. 00:04:44.533 --> 00:04:47.514 It's so much happening with physical 00:04:47.555 --> 00:04:49.495 therapy and so much exciting in the 00:04:49.555 --> 00:04:51.937 healthcare world that we just need to keep 00:04:51.978 --> 00:04:52.877 it moving forward and 00:04:53.358 --> 00:04:55.521 keep those connections growing so that we 00:04:55.560 --> 00:04:58.803 have more to just more to our physical 00:04:58.843 --> 00:04:59.644 therapy life. 00:05:00.206 --> 00:05:01.867 I almost call it like our family. 00:05:01.887 --> 00:05:04.189 It's our friends and our family and 00:05:04.209 --> 00:05:05.451 they're all connected. 00:05:05.490 --> 00:05:07.872 So it's our physical therapy family and 00:05:08.213 --> 00:05:09.735 they're just going to be there for us 00:05:10.196 --> 00:05:10.656 forever. 00:05:10.675 --> 00:05:11.476 Well, 00:05:11.497 --> 00:05:13.980 the world changes from time to time to 00:05:14.019 --> 00:05:14.480 time. 00:05:14.980 --> 00:05:16.841 So a lot of times PTs or PTAs, 00:05:17.750 --> 00:05:20.831 we'll see associations as extra, right? 00:05:20.872 --> 00:05:21.732 You said back in the day, 00:05:21.752 --> 00:05:24.632 you used to go to district meetings and 00:05:25.252 --> 00:05:27.252 things in the world move in pendulums. 00:05:27.452 --> 00:05:28.153 A couple of years ago, 00:05:28.213 --> 00:05:29.992 everything we did was online and then 00:05:30.112 --> 00:05:31.673 building a connection in real life was 00:05:32.173 --> 00:05:33.074 harder. 00:05:33.593 --> 00:05:37.714 So what have associations given you that 00:05:37.735 --> 00:05:41.115 you couldn't have gotten otherwise without 00:05:41.216 --> 00:05:43.055 showing up and meeting those people you 00:05:43.096 --> 00:05:43.396 mentioned? 00:05:44.303 --> 00:05:44.584 Boy, 00:05:45.223 --> 00:05:46.545 I think all of us who went into 00:05:46.584 --> 00:05:48.045 the physical therapy profession, 00:05:48.504 --> 00:05:50.245 we love the interaction. 00:05:50.305 --> 00:05:52.406 We love the energy and the vibe we 00:05:52.425 --> 00:05:54.607 get out of our interactions with our 00:05:54.666 --> 00:05:56.007 patients and our clients. 00:05:56.627 --> 00:05:57.567 And then from there, 00:05:58.487 --> 00:06:00.067 you can build that excitement with your 00:06:00.168 --> 00:06:03.408 friends and develop the network of, hey, 00:06:03.509 --> 00:06:06.670 I've got this patient and I just really 00:06:06.709 --> 00:06:07.850 don't know what to do with them. 00:06:07.930 --> 00:06:09.370 And so you can give somebody a call 00:06:09.391 --> 00:06:11.831 because their expertise is related to 00:06:11.872 --> 00:06:13.492 whatever that diagnosis might be. 00:06:13.971 --> 00:06:15.471 Plus, I think as PTs, 00:06:15.512 --> 00:06:17.233 we kind of like to have some fun. 00:06:17.894 --> 00:06:19.954 So these district meetings, 00:06:20.314 --> 00:06:21.516 they're also a lot of fun, 00:06:21.555 --> 00:06:23.617 whether it's the old fashioned way where 00:06:23.637 --> 00:06:27.199 we met in a hotel reception ballroom and 00:06:27.259 --> 00:06:29.401 had just didactic meetings to 00:06:30.033 --> 00:06:30.334 Now, 00:06:30.394 --> 00:06:32.454 where we have more of our pub crawls 00:06:33.035 --> 00:06:34.274 and some events like that, 00:06:34.295 --> 00:06:35.576 or we meet at Topgolf, 00:06:35.675 --> 00:06:37.576 or we go to some of the local 00:06:37.656 --> 00:06:40.937 baseball games as a group to just gather. 00:06:40.978 --> 00:06:42.278 I think we're people people. 00:06:42.817 --> 00:06:44.899 And so it's so important for us to 00:06:45.858 --> 00:06:47.240 not really add that to our life, 00:06:47.259 --> 00:06:48.800 just make it part of your professional 00:06:48.959 --> 00:06:49.100 life. 00:06:49.120 --> 00:06:50.680 Sure. 00:06:50.740 --> 00:06:50.880 Now, 00:06:50.901 --> 00:06:52.262 let me let me let me force you 00:06:52.281 --> 00:06:53.201 to change a hat now. 00:06:55.403 --> 00:06:58.043 From a clinic owner perspective, 00:06:58.543 --> 00:07:00.745 how does being plugged into a community 00:07:00.884 --> 00:07:05.146 like OPTA or any state chapter similar to 00:07:05.165 --> 00:07:05.365 that, 00:07:05.786 --> 00:07:07.747 how does being plugged into that community 00:07:07.966 --> 00:07:10.148 actually impact your business? 00:07:10.168 --> 00:07:12.149 You mentioned how it sort of impacted your 00:07:12.528 --> 00:07:14.329 clinical life, your friends, 00:07:14.370 --> 00:07:15.230 but how about business? 00:07:16.029 --> 00:07:17.391 Oh, from a business perspective, 00:07:17.490 --> 00:07:20.632 I would be lost without the association 00:07:20.732 --> 00:07:22.692 mentorship and guidance and 00:07:23.223 --> 00:07:26.524 everything from the networking at the PPS 00:07:26.564 --> 00:07:29.987 meetings to even at the APTA meetings. 00:07:30.286 --> 00:07:33.348 It's just so important to read and 00:07:33.408 --> 00:07:35.831 understand and be able to bounce ideas 00:07:35.930 --> 00:07:36.110 off. 00:07:36.151 --> 00:07:37.291 I think I was listening to one of 00:07:37.312 --> 00:07:41.413 your podcasts about metrics and just with 00:07:41.454 --> 00:07:42.675 Katie and talking about 00:07:43.324 --> 00:07:45.165 how important it is to figure out what 00:07:45.206 --> 00:07:47.427 metrics are important for you and your 00:07:47.447 --> 00:07:49.629 clinic and then making them meaningful and 00:07:49.649 --> 00:07:52.290 then being able to put some action to 00:07:52.310 --> 00:07:54.932 them so that it helps to build that 00:07:55.012 --> 00:07:56.814 collegial relationship and that 00:07:56.874 --> 00:07:59.574 understanding amongst your staff and your 00:07:59.634 --> 00:08:02.677 peers so that they can understand why you 00:08:02.716 --> 00:08:04.858 need to take a look at these KPIs 00:08:05.754 --> 00:08:06.875 or these benchmarks, 00:08:07.095 --> 00:08:09.297 or just look at the business side of 00:08:09.336 --> 00:08:09.557 things. 00:08:09.596 --> 00:08:12.319 Because if we can't follow the business 00:08:12.358 --> 00:08:14.019 part of the profession, 00:08:14.040 --> 00:08:15.802 we won't be here in our communities to 00:08:15.841 --> 00:08:17.903 be a part of our community and be 00:08:17.942 --> 00:08:20.685 here to serve your community and provide 00:08:20.706 --> 00:08:23.307 the awesome things we do besides just 00:08:23.348 --> 00:08:24.108 physical therapy. 00:08:24.127 --> 00:08:24.928 Yeah. 00:08:24.988 --> 00:08:26.189 I feel like it's a deeper way to 00:08:26.209 --> 00:08:27.850 be connected to people who are doing 00:08:28.471 --> 00:08:30.432 things that are close, similar, 00:08:30.892 --> 00:08:33.855 or completely different to what you're 00:08:33.875 --> 00:08:35.476 doing and then figuring out 00:08:36.091 --> 00:08:37.192 Wow, would that work for me? 00:08:37.231 --> 00:08:38.893 Or what did they learn from that? 00:08:39.052 --> 00:08:40.673 What can I take from that? 00:08:40.693 --> 00:08:41.774 What is this teaching me? 00:08:42.215 --> 00:08:43.615 And you can get some of that online. 00:08:43.955 --> 00:08:45.275 I'm a guy that lives a lot online. 00:08:45.696 --> 00:08:47.317 But online is not the only way. 00:08:47.496 --> 00:08:49.498 And sometimes it's not the best way for 00:08:49.577 --> 00:08:50.057 everything. 00:08:50.077 --> 00:08:50.418 It's not. 00:08:51.326 --> 00:08:51.485 No, 00:08:51.546 --> 00:08:53.888 I think just that personal human 00:08:53.927 --> 00:08:56.870 connection is so important for everything 00:08:56.910 --> 00:08:57.270 we do, 00:08:57.350 --> 00:09:00.092 just not only for how we interact with 00:09:00.113 --> 00:09:01.875 our patients, but shoot, 00:09:02.434 --> 00:09:04.557 how we deal with our chambers of commerce 00:09:05.097 --> 00:09:06.519 and being a part of your community, 00:09:06.538 --> 00:09:07.620 because then those people, 00:09:08.059 --> 00:09:10.562 you talk about marketing and connection, 00:09:11.023 --> 00:09:12.303 that's where you get your patients. 00:09:12.703 --> 00:09:13.924 When you're out in the community and 00:09:13.945 --> 00:09:15.787 you're a part of the chamber of commerce 00:09:15.947 --> 00:09:16.827 or the rotary, 00:09:17.347 --> 00:09:19.470 or you put on a race and you 00:09:19.509 --> 00:09:19.690 have 00:09:20.361 --> 00:09:23.222 a five K race, walk, hike, scavenger hunt, 00:09:23.323 --> 00:09:24.043 Easter egg hunt, 00:09:24.504 --> 00:09:25.825 and they come to your clinic and then 00:09:25.845 --> 00:09:27.466 you go outside and they see that you're 00:09:27.505 --> 00:09:29.767 excited about life and you're excited 00:09:29.807 --> 00:09:30.726 about your profession. 00:09:30.767 --> 00:09:32.768 And so they want to come to see 00:09:32.807 --> 00:09:34.729 you when they have something that is 00:09:35.389 --> 00:09:36.350 impacting their life, 00:09:36.370 --> 00:09:38.410 whether they can't participate at the 00:09:38.451 --> 00:09:40.351 level of a run or a walk or 00:09:40.471 --> 00:09:41.772 pick up their grandkids for that, 00:09:42.332 --> 00:09:42.932 that reason. 00:09:43.013 --> 00:09:44.793 So it's just crucial. 00:09:45.525 --> 00:09:45.725 Yeah. 00:09:45.946 --> 00:09:46.447 All right. 00:09:46.466 --> 00:09:47.807 Quick pause because you're a clinic owner. 00:09:47.827 --> 00:09:48.427 This part matters. 00:09:48.488 --> 00:09:50.089 Documentation, billing, workflows, 00:09:50.249 --> 00:09:51.710 all lives inside your EMR. 00:09:52.191 --> 00:09:53.390 And if your system is clunky, 00:09:53.431 --> 00:09:54.932 the whole clinic feels it. 00:09:54.991 --> 00:09:55.692 It doesn't feel good. 00:09:56.092 --> 00:09:57.673 That's where Empower EMR comes in. 00:09:57.714 --> 00:09:59.095 But specifically for PT, 00:09:59.495 --> 00:10:01.136 Empower is designed to simplify your 00:10:01.197 --> 00:10:03.177 workflow, not slow it down. 00:10:03.258 --> 00:10:05.339 Faster documentation, better reporting, 00:10:05.740 --> 00:10:07.240 and tools that actually help you run your 00:10:07.280 --> 00:10:09.022 business because your EMR shouldn't be 00:10:09.081 --> 00:10:10.283 something you fight every day. 00:10:10.302 --> 00:10:11.082 That would be frustrating. 00:10:11.543 --> 00:10:13.544 Check them out online at empoweremr.com. 00:10:13.565 --> 00:10:14.745 That's empoweremr.com. 00:10:15.605 --> 00:10:16.446 Edie, we got to pay the bills. 00:10:16.466 --> 00:10:17.626 We got to do the live. 00:10:17.706 --> 00:10:19.106 I know the feeling. 00:10:19.147 --> 00:10:19.547 Thank you. 00:10:19.626 --> 00:10:21.567 And thank you to Empower. 00:10:22.067 --> 00:10:23.028 Yeah, there you go. 00:10:23.307 --> 00:10:27.269 So you've mentioned before the shift from 00:10:27.288 --> 00:10:30.049 an expert to more of a coaching model. 00:10:30.610 --> 00:10:30.990 Correct. 00:10:31.090 --> 00:10:32.730 How have you seen that play out in 00:10:32.830 --> 00:10:34.171 real clinics? 00:10:34.250 --> 00:10:36.691 How is sort of shifting that changed 00:10:36.730 --> 00:10:37.230 things? 00:10:37.890 --> 00:10:38.051 Well, 00:10:38.091 --> 00:10:40.652 I think it builds that therapeutic 00:10:40.692 --> 00:10:41.231 alliance, 00:10:41.251 --> 00:10:43.432 that relationship with your patient or 00:10:43.472 --> 00:10:43.913 client, 00:10:43.952 --> 00:10:44.513 depending on 00:10:44.960 --> 00:10:46.640 Whether you're taking it more as a 00:10:46.681 --> 00:10:47.821 lifestyle medicine, 00:10:48.201 --> 00:10:50.922 health coaching perspective versus the old 00:10:50.961 --> 00:10:54.883 fashioned expert approach where you as the 00:10:55.003 --> 00:10:57.384 leader or the expert come in and tell 00:10:57.823 --> 00:10:59.384 a patient what they need to do. 00:10:59.914 --> 00:11:01.855 and they just sit there with their big 00:11:02.177 --> 00:11:03.398 eyes like in a headlight, 00:11:03.758 --> 00:11:05.339 deer in a headlight look, and they go, 00:11:05.379 --> 00:11:05.979 oh, okay. 00:11:06.240 --> 00:11:06.740 They go home. 00:11:06.759 --> 00:11:08.221 They don't remember a darn thing you said. 00:11:08.561 --> 00:11:09.802 You haven't built any rapport. 00:11:09.822 --> 00:11:13.205 You haven't built any of the goals that 00:11:13.284 --> 00:11:14.666 they have in their life, 00:11:14.765 --> 00:11:15.546 and so they get home. 00:11:15.586 --> 00:11:17.227 They don't understand what it is to do, 00:11:17.268 --> 00:11:18.528 and they don't follow through, 00:11:18.609 --> 00:11:20.970 so we get into the health coaching model. 00:11:21.009 --> 00:11:22.751 It's a collaborative relationship. 00:11:22.871 --> 00:11:24.373 It's open-ended questions. 00:11:24.432 --> 00:11:24.613 You're 00:11:25.153 --> 00:11:27.335 motivational interviewing techniques where 00:11:27.414 --> 00:11:29.755 you're really trying to make sure that the 00:11:30.515 --> 00:11:33.498 goals and the connection are achievable 00:11:33.538 --> 00:11:34.519 and they're realistic. 00:11:34.538 --> 00:11:36.980 And then you're using some SMART goals to 00:11:37.019 --> 00:11:39.422 help come up with some timely and 00:11:39.481 --> 00:11:42.322 achievable needed type of goals that 00:11:42.582 --> 00:11:45.745 they're excited about and they can feel 00:11:45.764 --> 00:11:46.765 their accomplishments. 00:11:47.178 --> 00:11:49.058 They understand you're helping to minimize 00:11:49.099 --> 00:11:49.980 the barriers. 00:11:50.299 --> 00:11:52.419 You're really trying to help them just get 00:11:52.460 --> 00:11:54.200 back to whatever it is they want to 00:11:54.240 --> 00:11:54.841 do in life. 00:11:54.880 --> 00:11:56.780 So if you don't build that, 00:11:56.941 --> 00:11:59.302 there's just that challenge ahead of you 00:12:00.062 --> 00:12:02.861 is that expert advice doesn't really work 00:12:02.942 --> 00:12:03.881 in this day and age. 00:12:04.302 --> 00:12:06.863 Especially now with artificial 00:12:06.923 --> 00:12:07.442 intelligence, 00:12:07.482 --> 00:12:09.624 if you're selling just expertise and an 00:12:09.744 --> 00:12:10.744 answer to a question, 00:12:12.268 --> 00:12:14.028 I would be nervous if that's the thing 00:12:14.048 --> 00:12:14.688 that you offer. 00:12:14.708 --> 00:12:16.730 If that's the service you provide, 00:12:16.910 --> 00:12:17.910 I'd get nervous. 00:12:18.030 --> 00:12:19.951 And you show where it's more like Yoda 00:12:20.152 --> 00:12:22.974 and guidance and seeing that person, 00:12:23.033 --> 00:12:23.193 right? 00:12:23.274 --> 00:12:24.615 Oprah said people want to be seen, heard, 00:12:24.634 --> 00:12:25.414 and understood. 00:12:26.375 --> 00:12:27.775 Making sure that you shift from that 00:12:27.836 --> 00:12:29.636 expert model to more of a coaching or 00:12:29.677 --> 00:12:31.378 more of a, I'm in this with you. 00:12:31.958 --> 00:12:32.778 That's sustainable. 00:12:33.099 --> 00:12:33.879 Now, how about this though? 00:12:33.919 --> 00:12:36.341 For younger PTs or even burned out 00:12:36.421 --> 00:12:37.761 clinicians anywhere in their career, 00:12:37.861 --> 00:12:38.581 it doesn't matter. 00:12:39.403 --> 00:12:39.523 Um, 00:12:40.441 --> 00:12:42.221 they might feel like they're doing so 00:12:42.282 --> 00:12:43.423 much, right? 00:12:43.442 --> 00:12:44.563 You got out of school and all of 00:12:44.604 --> 00:12:46.125 a sudden this thing hits you. 00:12:46.365 --> 00:12:47.405 Now you've got to do this thing every 00:12:47.426 --> 00:12:47.566 day. 00:12:47.586 --> 00:12:48.726 They've been working towards. 00:12:49.868 --> 00:12:52.910 What is getting involved actually look 00:12:52.951 --> 00:12:54.451 like in a practical way, 00:12:54.552 --> 00:12:56.613 in a way where it's not one other 00:12:56.673 --> 00:12:56.933 thing? 00:12:56.953 --> 00:12:57.774 Because a lot of people are saying, 00:12:57.833 --> 00:12:58.914 what's the return on investment? 00:12:58.955 --> 00:13:00.576 That's everybody's favorite KPI right now. 00:13:00.736 --> 00:13:02.697 What's the ROI of me joining a thing 00:13:03.138 --> 00:13:06.480 or showing up and spending my time and 00:13:06.740 --> 00:13:08.422 paying attention, right? 00:13:08.442 --> 00:13:10.663 Because time and money and attention are 00:13:10.683 --> 00:13:11.365 all commodities. 00:13:11.384 --> 00:13:12.164 They're all things we have. 00:13:12.184 --> 00:13:12.865 They're finite. 00:13:13.745 --> 00:13:15.067 For the younger PTs, for anybody, 00:13:15.206 --> 00:13:16.828 what does getting involved actually look 00:13:16.849 --> 00:13:18.509 like in a practical way? 00:13:19.510 --> 00:13:21.032 And well, 00:13:21.052 --> 00:13:22.133 I'll stop right there and then I'll have 00:13:22.192 --> 00:13:22.552 a follow up. 00:13:22.592 --> 00:13:24.094 So what does it actually look like in 00:13:24.114 --> 00:13:25.294 a practical way to get involved? 00:13:25.875 --> 00:13:25.975 Well, 00:13:25.995 --> 00:13:29.138 I think the practical way that young, old, 00:13:29.337 --> 00:13:32.660 burned out, not burned out, we as PTs, 00:13:32.701 --> 00:13:34.501 we as PTAs, we as humans, 00:13:35.700 --> 00:13:38.081 The way to attack it is that we 00:13:38.181 --> 00:13:40.422 really just want to be a part of 00:13:40.461 --> 00:13:42.023 something bigger than ourselves. 00:13:42.043 --> 00:13:45.323 We want to be able to understand that 00:13:45.364 --> 00:13:47.424 there's other people out there and that 00:13:47.465 --> 00:13:49.826 they help to re-energize us. 00:13:49.865 --> 00:13:51.485 They help to re-excite us. 00:13:51.525 --> 00:13:54.567 They help to re-engage us to carry on 00:13:54.626 --> 00:13:56.847 so that we can remember what it was, 00:13:56.927 --> 00:13:58.428 why we went to PT school. 00:13:59.051 --> 00:14:01.692 And we can maybe share and have fun 00:14:01.731 --> 00:14:02.232 because, you know, 00:14:02.253 --> 00:14:04.714 when your endorphins are excited and 00:14:05.053 --> 00:14:06.815 you're having a great time, 00:14:07.154 --> 00:14:09.535 that burden of that thought of being 00:14:09.576 --> 00:14:11.998 burned out or being stressed, 00:14:12.077 --> 00:14:13.538 that's sort of minimized. 00:14:13.578 --> 00:14:14.778 And the research shows that, 00:14:14.798 --> 00:14:17.760 that if you have that life-work balance, 00:14:18.221 --> 00:14:21.022 that it helps to contribute to a more 00:14:21.081 --> 00:14:23.764 positive working relationship and job 00:14:23.783 --> 00:14:24.644 satisfaction. 00:14:24.764 --> 00:14:27.164 It's not all about just the paycheck. 00:14:27.265 --> 00:14:27.946 It's really... 00:14:28.527 --> 00:14:30.268 that you're able to connect with other 00:14:30.347 --> 00:14:32.629 people that have like-minded goals, 00:14:32.690 --> 00:14:34.030 like-minded activities. 00:14:34.630 --> 00:14:36.451 So something about that is like, 00:14:36.893 --> 00:14:38.533 that's why the Ohio Physical Therapy 00:14:38.573 --> 00:14:41.254 Association and our East Central, well, 00:14:41.414 --> 00:14:42.996 and our district levels throughout the 00:14:43.037 --> 00:14:44.758 country and APTA, 00:14:44.778 --> 00:14:47.038 that just really helps all of us in 00:14:47.058 --> 00:14:50.600 the therapy world to engage, 00:14:50.662 --> 00:14:53.923 feel like you're part of the entire health 00:14:53.964 --> 00:14:54.464 community, 00:14:54.504 --> 00:14:56.044 that we can really make a difference, 00:14:56.085 --> 00:14:57.405 that advocacy piece, 00:14:57.878 --> 00:15:00.259 that we really can jump on board and 00:15:00.698 --> 00:15:02.059 change the world, so to speak. 00:15:02.120 --> 00:15:03.500 I think when we all went to PT, 00:15:03.539 --> 00:15:04.801 PTA school, 00:15:04.821 --> 00:15:06.020 we're going to change the world. 00:15:06.061 --> 00:15:08.062 And then sometimes you get into the real 00:15:08.101 --> 00:15:11.143 world and you're stuck with kind of that 00:15:11.322 --> 00:15:14.125 silo and you feel like you're not being 00:15:14.144 --> 00:15:14.884 appreciated. 00:15:15.639 --> 00:15:16.559 when you can get out and be a 00:15:16.620 --> 00:15:18.701 part of your association and activities 00:15:18.740 --> 00:15:20.500 and your peers and have fun, 00:15:20.860 --> 00:15:22.660 I think it's just really what helps you 00:15:23.120 --> 00:15:24.260 continue to be excited. 00:15:24.481 --> 00:15:27.461 I've been doing this for a long time 00:15:27.902 --> 00:15:29.101 and I'm still excited. 00:15:29.422 --> 00:15:31.962 Two, three years, two, three years. 00:15:32.062 --> 00:15:33.243 Plus about a whole bunch. 00:15:34.543 --> 00:15:35.883 Well, then let's talk about this, 00:15:36.244 --> 00:15:39.984 this physical embodiment of pretty much 00:15:40.024 --> 00:15:40.323 everybody, 00:15:40.384 --> 00:15:41.684 everything we've been talking about for 00:15:41.725 --> 00:15:42.945 the last, you know, 00:15:45.267 --> 00:15:48.168 know you know the the association in ohio 00:15:48.447 --> 00:15:50.149 decided that you were going to do a 00:15:50.288 --> 00:15:53.049 physical celebration for everything that 00:15:53.070 --> 00:15:55.291 sort of came before to sort of mark 00:15:55.311 --> 00:15:58.091 some time and then also ask the questions 00:15:58.131 --> 00:15:59.232 because you're going to have someone like 00:15:59.932 --> 00:16:02.433 drew contreras from apta who's a pretty 00:16:02.474 --> 00:16:04.195 forward-thinking guy looking to be on the 00:16:04.215 --> 00:16:04.595 horizon 00:16:05.075 --> 00:16:06.154 So you want to look at what's coming 00:16:06.195 --> 00:16:07.535 down the line for the profession. 00:16:07.556 --> 00:16:09.096 You're celebrating seventy-five years of 00:16:09.115 --> 00:16:10.557 an organization of people. 00:16:10.716 --> 00:16:11.937 It's not an association. 00:16:11.956 --> 00:16:12.738 It's not about a building. 00:16:13.038 --> 00:16:13.918 It's not about a logo. 00:16:13.937 --> 00:16:15.479 It's about all the people in the last 00:16:15.499 --> 00:16:17.418 seventy-five years now and coming. 00:16:17.438 --> 00:16:20.600 I bet you I could ask this question 00:16:20.620 --> 00:16:23.701 to anybody on the committees that are 00:16:23.721 --> 00:16:25.361 helping you in Ohio throw this and get 00:16:25.381 --> 00:16:26.461 different answers, which is good. 00:16:26.842 --> 00:16:29.023 But what are you trying to create beyond 00:16:29.222 --> 00:16:30.344 just a conference? 00:16:31.192 --> 00:16:32.533 To celebrate seventy five years. 00:16:32.592 --> 00:16:34.514 What is the thing beyond the thing for 00:16:34.553 --> 00:16:34.754 you? 00:16:35.274 --> 00:16:35.414 Well, 00:16:35.434 --> 00:16:37.015 the thing beyond the thing is that it 00:16:37.076 --> 00:16:39.957 is going to be like a wedding on 00:16:40.038 --> 00:16:40.577 steroids. 00:16:40.618 --> 00:16:41.859 It's going to be a night that you 00:16:42.019 --> 00:16:43.259 are going to remember. 00:16:43.299 --> 00:16:44.880 It's going to be fun. 00:16:45.480 --> 00:16:46.581 And guess what? 00:16:47.610 --> 00:16:48.631 you're going to be there. 00:16:49.231 --> 00:16:52.375 And so one and only Jimmy McKay is 00:16:52.394 --> 00:16:54.517 going to be there to kind of tie 00:16:54.537 --> 00:16:57.219 it all together and bring the excitement. 00:16:57.239 --> 00:16:58.679 We're going to even have a red carpet 00:16:58.700 --> 00:16:59.380 when you walk in. 00:16:59.400 --> 00:17:00.442 So yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:17:00.461 --> 00:17:01.383 I'm going to be asking like a, 00:17:01.643 --> 00:17:02.143 like a reporter, 00:17:02.163 --> 00:17:03.244 what are we wearing tonight? 00:17:03.264 --> 00:17:03.725 And you know, 00:17:03.745 --> 00:17:05.286 what's on the horizon and all those 00:17:05.306 --> 00:17:05.506 things. 00:17:05.526 --> 00:17:06.406 Well, we're going to yuck it up. 00:17:07.002 --> 00:17:08.345 But what do you hope people walk away 00:17:08.424 --> 00:17:10.587 thinking and feeling beyond the fun, 00:17:10.607 --> 00:17:11.990 beyond a couple of vodka sodas and 00:17:12.029 --> 00:17:12.671 Chardonnays? 00:17:13.352 --> 00:17:15.394 What do we hope people are motivated to 00:17:15.434 --> 00:17:16.777 now go and do? 00:17:17.778 --> 00:17:19.820 What's a win for you three years from 00:17:19.881 --> 00:17:22.064 now from the event in Ohio next month? 00:17:22.798 --> 00:17:23.138 Okay, 00:17:23.398 --> 00:17:26.421 I'm at the golf outing with some physical 00:17:26.441 --> 00:17:28.261 therapy friends in a couple years and they 00:17:28.321 --> 00:17:29.143 go, you know, 00:17:29.702 --> 00:17:31.804 back in twenty twenty six on April 00:17:31.884 --> 00:17:33.904 eleventh in Columbus, man, 00:17:33.924 --> 00:17:36.767 you guys put on the best event. 00:17:36.846 --> 00:17:39.229 That gala for seventy five years was so 00:17:39.288 --> 00:17:39.788 exciting. 00:17:40.209 --> 00:17:42.430 We got to talk to a number of 00:17:42.490 --> 00:17:44.369 our friends and we got to talk to 00:17:44.390 --> 00:17:45.150 some students. 00:17:45.970 --> 00:17:48.230 They were all re-energized and energized 00:17:48.250 --> 00:17:50.632 to springboard the profession forward. 00:17:51.051 --> 00:17:52.531 We wore our fancy duds. 00:17:52.571 --> 00:17:54.432 We had our dancing shoes on. 00:17:55.093 --> 00:17:56.593 The food was tremendous. 00:17:56.712 --> 00:17:58.133 The venue was great. 00:17:58.433 --> 00:17:59.673 Met some new friends. 00:17:59.973 --> 00:18:01.453 Got to meet Jimmy McKay. 00:18:02.355 --> 00:18:03.994 So what more could they want? 00:18:04.501 --> 00:18:04.642 Well, 00:18:04.662 --> 00:18:05.643 I look at that kind of room and 00:18:05.682 --> 00:18:05.923 I say, 00:18:06.403 --> 00:18:07.766 let's fast forward to three years of your 00:18:07.806 --> 00:18:08.547 golf tournament. 00:18:10.087 --> 00:18:11.971 Maybe three years might be too soon, 00:18:12.050 --> 00:18:14.894 but six or seven years, 00:18:15.054 --> 00:18:16.836 quite likely a student in attendance is 00:18:16.895 --> 00:18:19.259 now APTA Ohio's president, right? 00:18:19.378 --> 00:18:19.519 Yeah. 00:18:20.220 --> 00:18:21.359 That's the thing to think of. 00:18:21.440 --> 00:18:23.881 And the funny thing is when you talk 00:18:23.901 --> 00:18:25.301 to people who are now leaders, 00:18:25.922 --> 00:18:26.622 some of them said, 00:18:26.662 --> 00:18:27.702 this is very intentional. 00:18:28.022 --> 00:18:29.202 I want to do this. 00:18:29.383 --> 00:18:30.103 I want to lead. 00:18:30.523 --> 00:18:32.324 And some people are so serendipitous and 00:18:32.423 --> 00:18:32.983 accidental. 00:18:33.003 --> 00:18:33.384 They were like, 00:18:34.025 --> 00:18:35.325 somebody gave me a free ticket to a 00:18:35.384 --> 00:18:36.846 party and I showed up. 00:18:36.865 --> 00:18:37.786 And then six years later, 00:18:37.806 --> 00:18:39.125 I'm the president because it was awesome. 00:18:39.165 --> 00:18:40.426 And I met so many great people. 00:18:41.086 --> 00:18:43.268 So I look at an event like... 00:18:44.028 --> 00:18:45.989 what you're doing next month in Ohio and 00:18:46.028 --> 00:18:48.808 say, it's sort of like a lottery ticket. 00:18:48.828 --> 00:18:52.230 You show up looking for future versions or 00:18:52.329 --> 00:18:53.730 opportunities of yourself. 00:18:54.111 --> 00:18:55.451 If you look for it as a direct 00:18:55.631 --> 00:18:57.090 ROI, what am I going to get? 00:18:57.751 --> 00:18:59.511 I think you walk away with little to 00:18:59.551 --> 00:18:59.852 nothing. 00:19:00.511 --> 00:19:02.093 I think if you walk into it like, 00:19:02.673 --> 00:19:03.593 what can I learn? 00:19:03.653 --> 00:19:04.732 What could I give back? 00:19:04.853 --> 00:19:06.634 You wind up... It sounds so corny, 00:19:06.653 --> 00:19:08.854 but you wind up walking away with a 00:19:08.894 --> 00:19:09.894 lot more. 00:19:09.954 --> 00:19:10.694 For sure. 00:19:11.404 --> 00:19:13.767 I think that the work that the committee's 00:19:13.787 --> 00:19:14.827 been putting into it, 00:19:14.988 --> 00:19:18.471 it's really exciting because we all still 00:19:18.530 --> 00:19:20.332 need to appreciate the history of the 00:19:20.412 --> 00:19:22.233 seventy five years that have come before 00:19:22.294 --> 00:19:22.413 us. 00:19:22.874 --> 00:19:24.895 So there's been a lot of effort to 00:19:25.355 --> 00:19:27.357 dig up some of the old pictures and 00:19:27.417 --> 00:19:28.999 some of the history and timeline. 00:19:29.398 --> 00:19:32.300 So hopefully the newbies, the young grads, 00:19:32.361 --> 00:19:34.482 early professionals can stand there and 00:19:34.522 --> 00:19:35.284 go, wow, 00:19:36.163 --> 00:19:37.545 I wonder what this will look like in 00:19:37.726 --> 00:19:38.865 seventy five years. 00:19:39.446 --> 00:19:40.448 And how do I shape that? 00:19:41.357 --> 00:19:44.700 And that's up to us because, wow, 00:19:45.440 --> 00:19:46.621 I'll still be around hopefully. 00:19:46.701 --> 00:19:47.580 They will, I won't, 00:19:47.800 --> 00:19:49.942 but they will be hopefully around in 00:19:50.202 --> 00:19:51.123 seventy five years. 00:19:51.403 --> 00:19:51.843 I wouldn't mind, 00:19:51.883 --> 00:19:53.064 but I'd be pretty old by then. 00:19:53.503 --> 00:19:57.185 But I've been around Ohio and then Florida 00:19:57.205 --> 00:19:57.846 before that. 00:19:58.126 --> 00:20:00.288 And I can see some of the leaders 00:20:00.327 --> 00:20:03.269 from forty three years ago when I joined 00:20:03.308 --> 00:20:05.390 the Physical Therapy Association, 00:20:05.730 --> 00:20:06.671 some of those leaders 00:20:07.070 --> 00:20:08.731 have really shaped the future. 00:20:08.893 --> 00:20:11.555 They had me present my research at APTA 00:20:11.994 --> 00:20:14.896 early on that first year out of school. 00:20:15.198 --> 00:20:17.239 And it just built the excitement. 00:20:17.259 --> 00:20:18.460 I talked to Florence Kendall. 00:20:18.780 --> 00:20:20.061 She critiqued my research. 00:20:20.442 --> 00:20:23.304 And so hopefully somebody will have that 00:20:23.384 --> 00:20:25.826 same aha moment and go, oh my gosh, 00:20:26.165 --> 00:20:28.067 that was Jimmy McKay. 00:20:28.147 --> 00:20:29.348 I talked to him or, oh, 00:20:29.429 --> 00:20:32.692 I got to meet Tyson Gentry or talk 00:20:32.731 --> 00:20:34.292 to Dr. Drew Contreras. 00:20:34.712 --> 00:20:35.753 And he's forward thinking. 00:20:35.814 --> 00:20:36.414 And now it's been, 00:20:36.894 --> 00:20:38.655 six years since the event. 00:20:38.796 --> 00:20:40.715 And look at what some of those things 00:20:40.895 --> 00:20:42.317 have gotten to do. 00:20:42.376 --> 00:20:44.416 I got to do a residency and I 00:20:44.436 --> 00:20:45.798 got to meet so-and-so. 00:20:46.198 --> 00:20:48.798 And so I can really see that this 00:20:48.939 --> 00:20:52.119 profession is exciting and that OPTA is 00:20:52.140 --> 00:20:52.519 like the 00:20:53.567 --> 00:20:54.626 I think we want to say we're like 00:20:54.646 --> 00:20:56.907 the heart of the profession. 00:20:57.147 --> 00:20:57.407 You know, 00:20:57.448 --> 00:20:59.768 we're trying to think where we're at as 00:20:59.788 --> 00:21:00.868 an association. 00:21:01.368 --> 00:21:03.568 And I think APTA, OPTA, 00:21:03.608 --> 00:21:06.589 your different state associations, 00:21:06.829 --> 00:21:08.931 and then your special interest groups and 00:21:08.951 --> 00:21:12.131 your other SIGs and district groups, 00:21:12.590 --> 00:21:14.771 we're the heart of the profession because 00:21:15.358 --> 00:21:17.361 If your heart isn't pumping and thriving 00:21:17.942 --> 00:21:21.085 and working hard and doing everything it 00:21:21.105 --> 00:21:21.424 can, 00:21:21.464 --> 00:21:23.047 then the rest of your musculoskeletal 00:21:23.067 --> 00:21:24.968 system and neurological system and 00:21:25.409 --> 00:21:27.310 everything else can't work optimally. 00:21:27.371 --> 00:21:30.032 So I think your association is the heart 00:21:30.073 --> 00:21:30.513 of it all. 00:21:30.874 --> 00:21:31.755 Do you have that analogy? 00:21:31.775 --> 00:21:33.977 You just pulled that out like you're ready 00:21:33.997 --> 00:21:34.196 to go. 00:21:34.217 --> 00:21:34.877 The heart analogy. 00:21:34.897 --> 00:21:35.538 That was perfect. 00:21:35.858 --> 00:21:36.680 Tied it up with a bow. 00:21:37.701 --> 00:21:38.282 Sounds good. 00:21:38.663 --> 00:21:40.766 I just pulled it out of my heart, 00:21:40.786 --> 00:21:41.066 Jimmy. 00:21:41.086 --> 00:21:42.607 Pulled it out of your heart. 00:21:42.627 --> 00:21:43.848 Edie, we have a tradition on the show. 00:21:43.949 --> 00:21:46.011 It is called the parting shot. 00:21:47.153 --> 00:21:49.174 This is the parting shot. 00:21:49.715 --> 00:21:51.116 One last mic drop moment. 00:21:51.778 --> 00:21:52.578 No pressure. 00:21:53.038 --> 00:21:55.142 Just your legacy on the line. 00:21:56.444 --> 00:21:56.625 All right, 00:21:56.664 --> 00:21:58.606 Parting Shot is brought to you by U.S. 00:21:58.646 --> 00:21:59.407 Physical Therapy. 00:21:59.448 --> 00:22:00.849 If you're a practice owner who's thinking 00:22:00.869 --> 00:22:02.351 about growth or even just trying to figure 00:22:02.391 --> 00:22:04.492 out what the next phase might look like 00:22:04.532 --> 00:22:04.834 for you, 00:22:04.913 --> 00:22:05.694 you don't have to do it alone. 00:22:06.115 --> 00:22:06.375 U.S. 00:22:06.414 --> 00:22:07.797 Physical Therapy partners with clinic 00:22:07.856 --> 00:22:09.018 owners to help them scale, 00:22:09.077 --> 00:22:10.799 strengthen operations and build long-term 00:22:10.839 --> 00:22:13.403 value while still maintaining clinical 00:22:13.663 --> 00:22:14.242 autonomy. 00:22:14.262 --> 00:22:15.263 So whether you're looking to grow, 00:22:15.325 --> 00:22:16.486 partner or plan your exit, 00:22:16.965 --> 00:22:18.386 It's worth having the conversation. 00:22:18.426 --> 00:22:20.528 Learn more at usph.com. 00:22:20.548 --> 00:22:23.352 That is usph.com. 00:22:23.372 --> 00:22:25.292 So Edie, you're parting shot. 00:22:25.713 --> 00:22:27.976 I'll give you a question to play off 00:22:28.096 --> 00:22:28.236 of. 00:22:28.875 --> 00:22:31.439 If you could challenge every physical 00:22:31.479 --> 00:22:33.400 therapist assistant and every physical 00:22:33.440 --> 00:22:37.022 therapist listening to do one thing to 00:22:37.063 --> 00:22:38.183 build a better career, 00:22:38.464 --> 00:22:39.444 not just a better clinician, 00:22:39.786 --> 00:22:41.846 but a better career, what would it be? 00:22:42.028 --> 00:22:43.429 What would you challenge them to be? 00:22:44.521 --> 00:22:44.781 Well, 00:22:45.403 --> 00:22:48.164 I think it comes back to a larger 00:22:48.204 --> 00:22:50.326 voice is a stronger voice. 00:22:51.147 --> 00:22:53.970 And if one hundred percent of physical 00:22:53.990 --> 00:22:55.570 therapists and physical therapist 00:22:55.990 --> 00:22:58.874 assistants in the country or members of 00:22:58.894 --> 00:23:01.336 the associations, we would have. 00:23:03.229 --> 00:23:06.412 huge voice from an advocacy perspective, 00:23:06.892 --> 00:23:09.374 as well as we would have a really 00:23:09.453 --> 00:23:11.496 great time if all of them would show 00:23:11.556 --> 00:23:14.518 up at our gala on April eleventh in 00:23:14.598 --> 00:23:15.679 Columbus, Ohio, 00:23:15.719 --> 00:23:17.701 to celebrate our seventy fifth year. 00:23:18.261 --> 00:23:20.423 And so I think that the hundred percent 00:23:20.502 --> 00:23:22.664 membership and so that they hopefully 00:23:22.684 --> 00:23:25.307 don't look at it as a an add 00:23:25.386 --> 00:23:25.607 on, 00:23:25.688 --> 00:23:27.608 but just part of the heart and soul 00:23:27.669 --> 00:23:30.511 of your professional fun and your 00:23:30.551 --> 00:23:31.932 professional responsibilities. 00:23:32.673 --> 00:23:33.054 Great. 00:23:33.173 --> 00:23:33.453 Excellent. 00:23:33.473 --> 00:23:33.654 All right. 00:23:33.674 --> 00:23:35.455 I'm going to put some information about 00:23:35.516 --> 00:23:38.136 the conference and the gala, 00:23:38.297 --> 00:23:40.358 which are going back to back in just 00:23:40.659 --> 00:23:41.199 under a month. 00:23:41.219 --> 00:23:42.579 So we'll see you there, Ohio. 00:23:43.820 --> 00:23:44.280 But also, 00:23:44.320 --> 00:23:45.642 I wanted to make sure people from 00:23:45.682 --> 00:23:47.182 neighboring states in Pittsburgh is not 00:23:47.202 --> 00:23:47.502 that far. 00:23:47.522 --> 00:23:48.682 I mean, it doesn't have you. 00:23:48.903 --> 00:23:49.963 You can come to the party. 00:23:50.003 --> 00:23:51.805 You can come to the event and not 00:23:51.845 --> 00:23:54.727 necessarily be an APTA Ohio member or a 00:23:54.767 --> 00:23:55.728 member of that state chapter. 00:23:55.748 --> 00:23:56.048 Correct. 00:23:56.601 --> 00:23:57.040 Correct. 00:23:57.080 --> 00:23:57.480 It's great. 00:23:57.520 --> 00:23:59.902 We have friends from all over the country 00:24:00.142 --> 00:24:02.923 and we welcome new friends to come and 00:24:03.143 --> 00:24:05.103 check us out and just be a part 00:24:05.163 --> 00:24:08.544 of our fun evening and become our future 00:24:08.584 --> 00:24:08.943 friends. 00:24:09.723 --> 00:24:10.064 Excellent. 00:24:10.084 --> 00:24:10.203 Edie, 00:24:10.243 --> 00:24:11.744 appreciate the time and thanks for doing 00:24:11.765 --> 00:24:12.105 what you do. 00:24:12.125 --> 00:24:13.105 And I'll see you in a couple of 00:24:13.125 --> 00:24:13.464 weeks. 00:24:13.765 --> 00:24:14.326 Can't wait. 00:24:14.405 --> 00:24:15.205 Looking forward to it. 00:24:15.246 --> 00:24:15.965 Thank you very much. 00:24:17.987 --> 00:24:19.087 That's it for this one, 00:24:19.327 --> 00:24:21.029 but we're just getting warmed up. 00:24:21.470 --> 00:24:23.372 Smash follow, send it to a friend, 00:24:23.592 --> 00:24:25.252 or crank up the next episode. 00:24:25.773 --> 00:24:26.673 Want to go deeper? 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