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all right there we go look at that

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uh amazing i did a little time lapse

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Most PTs don't realize how many career

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paths actually exist until they meet

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someone who took a different one.

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Our next guest is a professor, clinician,

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author, social media educator.

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science communicator,

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with over a million followers,

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helping people relearn, well,

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learn and relearn,

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and love learning again.

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Live from Anaheim,

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Tim Reynolds back on the show.

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Tim, welcome to the program.

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Jimmy, it's good to be here.

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I'm excited.

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What made you want to start doing the

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Instagrams?

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Because, like,

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these kids today are always on their

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phones and whatever, and...

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So four years ago, I had students say,

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you should do a TikTok.

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And I said, that's a horrible idea.

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I should not be on social media.

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And they kept pursuing this idea of me

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just posting what we're learning in our

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anatomy and physiology class.

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And I said, sure, I'll humor it.

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And I'll just post relevant content in

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regards to what we're doing in class.

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And then it went viral.

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And I said, oh, my gosh,

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I think this might actually be a thing

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like a niche that I can potentially go

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down and teach anatomy, physiology,

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contents, medical contents,

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physical therapy contents.

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The last four years I've been doing

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anatomy quizzes and they're great.

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And I try to provide educational

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opportunities for individuals throughout

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the world.

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I got to be honest,

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sometimes I don't take your quizzes

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because I don't want to get it wrong

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and be like,

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can he see that I got it wrong?

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There's no revoking of the doctoral

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degree.

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I slipped and I pressed that.

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I didn't mean to press B.

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I meant to press A.

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It just shows that, well...

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There's a lot of information,

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because that's how the internet works.

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And some of it is great,

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some of it's not great.

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And the only way to sort of combat

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the not so great or the misinformation is

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with good information.

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I'm sorry, you can't,

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there's no police on the internet.

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You can't just say,

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take that down because I don't like it.

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The only way to sort of combat that

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is,

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just produce good stuff so do you approach

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it like a scientist do you look at

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it and say because i've done this before

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dude this video is gonna rip it's gonna

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kill and you put it out nothing and

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then you fling one that you barely put

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any effort into and that thing catches

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fire you're like why so effort doesn't

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always equal outcome sure what's your what

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have you taken from this and what have

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you learned in doing it in four years

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which is not a short amount of time

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I mean,

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I think we look at the physical therapy

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profession and we think about our ability

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to problem solve and whether that be

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diagnosing an individual with a knee

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pathology or something like that.

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I've eventually got myself a master's

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degree in business and marketing and

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social media posting specifically.

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So I know what kind of content should

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hit.

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and or how to adapt content to potentially

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not necessarily play the algorithm,

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but there is strategy behind understanding

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what will make the society of followers

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feel the most invested in my content.

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If I post stuff that's relevant for

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doctoral students in their third year,

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no one's going to do it because it's

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going to be too challenging.

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And so you have to intersperse, I guess,

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layperson educational opportunities with

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some of the more higher level social media

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posts.

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Yeah, know your audience.

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Right, exactly.

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I mean,

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and I would imagine in a classroom

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setting,

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It's easier because you have body

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language, facial.

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We'll call it dead behind the eyes.

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Everybody's giving me blanks there.

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Got it.

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We're going to pivot.

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We're going to say the same thing in

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a different way.

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Let's do that again.

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On the internet,

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you sort of don't have that.

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Yours is delayed whether or not people

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like, share, subscribe, re-watch.

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Every twenty-four hours,

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you get a whole new opportunity,

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a whole new audience to do it.

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I do that.

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I tell people a lot.

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If you live by the numbers,

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you die by the numbers.

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Right.

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Um, so first and foremost, I,

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with this podcast, my goal is have fun,

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learn stuff and also excuses to wear bow

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ties and red jackets is always a nice

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way to go to work.

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Um, but you get,

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you get a new set of data,

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which said, Hey,

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this is how this worked yesterday.

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Funny, funny idea though.

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Post the same video, three days apart,

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you might get four views and then four

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hundred thousand views.

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And that's my, my answer to that is,

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uh, people are peopley.

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Yeah, you got to be consistent.

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And I think it's finding things that bring

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you happiness and joy outside of the

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viewership.

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You got to like it.

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Yeah.

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If you don't like it,

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doing what you do would be horrible.

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And I think for me,

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I've always tried to stay true to my

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mission statement,

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which is providing educational

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opportunities for the students at the

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college I teach at.

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So I teach at Ithaca College.

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And so I'm posting stuff on the endocrine

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system because we're learning about the

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endocrine system.

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You're mirroring, mimicking.

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I'm trying to allow for them to engage

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in content that's relevant to the

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classroom.

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In a different way.

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In a different way.

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an extra learning opportunity that they

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can stand in line at Wegmans,

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waiting for their groceries,

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and potentially scroll through their

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TikTok or Instagram.

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You're making me feel bad.

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I used to live near Wegmans.

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It's funny.

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I never really liked...

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had an opinion about a supermarket until

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you get one that you love,

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then you move away and you're like,

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oh man,

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you used to love me the Wegmans this.

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These people on the West Coast,

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they don't know this whole Wegmans thing.

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I know.

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Why do so many physical therapists feel

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boxed in to one career path?

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I get it.

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Like if you're going to do a bell

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curve, there might, you know,

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the center of the bell curve,

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there's one or two ways to be a

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PT.

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Sure.

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We also know how wide a bell curve

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might be.

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There's a lot.

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Why do PTs feel boxed in to one

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way?

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I think when you pull the audience of

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who are physical therapy's personality

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types, we're very type A individuals,

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and we follow by the rules.

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And so those rules involve studying for a

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test, getting good scores,

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and so on and so forth.

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And we have this trajectory that I think

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has been established as you become a

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standard practitioner in terms of

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clinician,

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you're going to treat five days a week.

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Yeah, forty hours.

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Forty hours a week, X amount of evals,

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so on and so forth.

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that is ingrained in the vision statement

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i think of the profession of physical

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therapy but just as we have a branding

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problem with the physical therapy

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profession i think we have a branding

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problem of what opportunities does the

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physical therapy profession potentially

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allow for us to do and so i

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think it takes individuals to step outside

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that box and be willing to push the

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social norms of the doctoral program to

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allow for this upcoming generation of

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students to be able to see that there

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are more options out there

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You are a walking,

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talking example of one of the cliches that

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I bring up,

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which is we are not in a tell

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business.

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We are in show business.

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And I know people might look at, well,

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I don't want to do Instagram.

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I'm like, then you don't have to.

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But you should still show people.

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Telling people doesn't work, right?

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I need you to show me.

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Do you just tell people how to do

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an exercise?

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Of course not.

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I would show.

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Oh, they don't get it.

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I'll show in a different way.

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I give this sort of cliche too,

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which is there are these concepts I

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learned in PT school.

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Frequency, intensity, time, type, volume,

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progression.

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Those are exercise principles.

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Those are also communication principles.

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If you're not frequent and you're confused

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at why things don't grow, I'm like,

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I don't know,

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you did one pushup a day and then

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you stopped.

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Your load is inadequate.

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Correct.

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So do more.

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Well, I don't want to do more.

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I'm very sorry.

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My content's not hitting.

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Well,

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you can't go from a yellow TheraBand to

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a red TheraBand to a green TheraBand and

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expect that to work.

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Correct.

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So.

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Um, why do clinicians, sorry,

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what do clinicians forget most after PT

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school?

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Dude, I knew like origin insertion.

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Like I knew all of that.

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I will tell my students that coming out

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of cadaver dissection,

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you will be the smartest that you will

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ever be right there, dude.

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In that third year of PT school.

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Yeah.

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And I think it's a lot of knowledge

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that's not necessarily clinically relevant

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at times.

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Like all the branches off the internal

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iliac artery.

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When am I going to be ever right?

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have to discuss that to a patient but

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I think it shows the capacity of learning

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and the willingness to what's my rating

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perceived exertion in terms of my tissue

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tolerance right so they can study for X

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amount of hours and memorize so much stuff

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and I think making it through that summer

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experience shows them that they have the

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capacity to become a doctoral student

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You're going to learn so much stuff in

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school and you're going to leave and

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you're going to go to a setting and

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you're going to use twenty eight percent

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of it.

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Yeah.

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And whatever the math is on the other

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side of twenty eight, you're not.

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And that's going to go away because that's

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how brains work.

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They're made.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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And so I think like some of those

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fine attachments of like some of these

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intrinsic forearm muscles,

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like no one's going to ask you about

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that and no one's going to care because

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that's what Google's for.

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And so I think that those kind of

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things,

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like if I were to give an exam

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to my colleagues in a clinic,

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they probably would do worse than the

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majority of my students in the classroom.

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Because they're doing frequency intensive.

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Right now, they're in the thing.

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Right.

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They're learning.

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They're doing functional training and not

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necessarily accessory exercise.

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Correct.

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Correct.

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Yeah.

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How can social media be used responsibly

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for education?

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I mean, you're an example of that.

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But what are the things that if someone's

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like, I have an idea.

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People always come to me like,

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I got an idea.

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You're the media guy.

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I go, hang on a second.

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I don't know everything.

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I like podcasting because I really like

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talking to people.

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I figured out what I liked first and

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then decided how to use it.

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So how do you communicate to people how

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this thing that's on everybody's phones

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can be used responsibly?

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Well,

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I think if it's from a content generation

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standpoint, I think share your journey,

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but don't proclaim false expertise.

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And I think that idea of you are

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a first year physical therapy student,

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share what you're learning within your

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first year,

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but don't necessarily try to jump steps to

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say, well, in this,

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how we make patients better.

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No,

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you understand goniometric measures or

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special tests.

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So produce content around that.

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and allow for your educational package to

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grow.

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Yeah,

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your scope to grow as your clinical skills

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grow.

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And so I think that that opportunity is

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more authentic.

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And I think that authenticity through the

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social media lens

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would be the way if i had to

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rebrand myself or restart as a physical

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therapy student that's what i would do

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yeah yeah sharing what sharing good yeah

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is the only way to sort of dilute

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the stuff that maybe is inaccurate or or

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or dangerous right yeah what do you get

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most joy out of

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The comment,

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I imagine seeing how many people interact

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with the thing that's like, oh,

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people are doing school stuff on

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Instagram.

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Well, I mean,

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five minutes before we hopped on this,

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I had two students from the University of

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Florida come by and say,

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we do your quizzes all the time.

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i got a geography lesson for you ithaca

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is not close to florida it is not

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right but instagram is in your pocket and

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so i think it's for me it's it's

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seeing the joy that people get out of

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the content um because i get so much

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joy and satisfaction from teaching and my

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capacity to teach is limited to a hundred

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and eighty students every academic year

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but now i have the opportunity to expand

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beyond that uh through the palm of your

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hand

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And the math, you make a one-minute video.

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I'm sure some of you can see analytics.

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A one-minute video that's seen X number of

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times,

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we're not measuring in hours or days.

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You're measuring in weeks or months worth

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of exposed time.

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And that's powerful.

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That's compound interest.

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And then...

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you could reshare that same video,

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because I know things change,

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but anatomy and physiology,

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that stuff's gonna be good next year,

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right?

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I mean,

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pretty sure it's gonna be kind of close,

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right?

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Or pretty damn close.

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Yeah, no,

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and I think that that's the benefit,

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that every year I get a new academic

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cohort

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and I get an opportunity to rebrand the

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content that I've been doing,

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but challenge myself,

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how can I do it better?

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So just as I'm trying to teach

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differently,

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I'm also trying to utilize the social

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media platforms in different ways.

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Adapt the method, right?

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Exactly.

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And that's the thing,

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the platforms are changing too because

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Human brain craves novelty.

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We crave the novelty.

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I'm wearing today a tuxedo with a red

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jacket.

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I'm not going to wear this tomorrow.

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I'm just not.

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Because I know on day two of CSM,

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everybody's sort of...

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Burned out.

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Everybody's just sort of like, you know,

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because we're going to go out tonight.

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I'm not going to stand out.

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The platforms change.

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Instagram used to be photos.

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Then it became super short videos.

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Now the videos can be longer.

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But now we also have these buttons and

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we can ask a quiz or we could

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do a tag and do all those things.

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So understanding the physics of whatever

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platform you're on,

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because whatever you're doing on Instagram

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doesn't necessarily perfectly align with

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another platform because they're similar,

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just not the same.

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Yeah.

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And so content delivery on different

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platforms has to be molded towards the

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platform itself.

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Can't break the rules.

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I mean, you can bend to them,

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but I would always say, I liked,

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when someone asks you to think outside the

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box,

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First, you got to have the box.

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It's OK.

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You can do a video and it's going

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to be like there's all these parameters.

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And then you get to be creative and

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go, how do I solve this?

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Yeah.

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Here's the initial scaffolding.

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But the building's going to look

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different.

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Correct.

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You put whatever you want through it.

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Right.

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Which is pretty exciting.

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Yeah.

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So you mentioned when you talk to people

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or you might have colleagues that are one,

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three, five, thirty, forty years out.

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How can PTs continue learning without

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burning out?

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When you're a student,

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your prime directive is wake up, learn,

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learn, learn, learn, go to sleep, learn,

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learn, learn.

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When you're in clinic,

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there is a learning there,

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but maybe some of the things are falling

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off.

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So what do you suggest for clinicians to

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do who want to be that triple L

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lifelong learner?

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Well,

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I think I always leave CSM revitalized and

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just have an opportunity to collaborate

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and meet people and see the excitement

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within the profession.

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And I think that the monotony of a

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day in,

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day out practice sometimes is what creates

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that element of burnout when there's notes

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to be done.

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No novelty.

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Yeah.

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And so I think that...

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you have to challenge yourself to grow

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outside the typical uh way that you would

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would treat a patient and so uh i've

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had practitioners that will treat

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everybody in standing or treat everybody

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in the gym today or challenge challenge

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the way that you typically do the normal

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because the recipe book if you follow it

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day in day out you might get the

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clinical outcomes that you're looking for

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to an extent and obviously there's

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elements of uh novelty to each of those

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patients

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but you are not challenging that

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neuroplasticity component.

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You are just riding that groove.

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And so I think that challenge yourself to

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explain something differently or to not

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use the word pain.

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That's one of my sort of clinical pet

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peeves.

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How can I educate better?

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How can I have the opportunity to

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communicate differently?

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And I think that stays,

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that keeps the concept of the profession

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new, novel, and exciting.

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Same as a social media platform.

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We're going to give you rules.

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We used to do this thing,

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and I stole it.

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I forget the name of the movie.

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There was a Steve Martin movie where he

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was like a preacher,

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and he was essentially just like it was

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a circus going from town to town.

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He was a hustler.

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He was a grifter, right?

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And he would have a hearing piece in

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his ear,

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and his team would give him a ridiculous

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word like vinyl siding or horseshoe.

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And he would be up there preaching and

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he would have to somehow make it relevant.

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And they were betting whether he could do

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it or not.

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But that just shows you it's like I'm

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going to do the same thing.

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But today everything's going to be in half

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meal.

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It's like you can't do that.

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It's like, all right, well,

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let me work this problem.

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And what you're doing is you're stressing

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that neuroplasticity.

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It's like I'm going to try this

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differently.

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And that's when serendipity happens or you

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discover a new thing.

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Or today was just novel and it felt

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better.

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And I got through the day faster.

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Right.

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Because you never know which patient is

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going to require that.

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Correct.

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And so I think that that challenge,

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challenge yourself every day you walk into

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the clinic and not just go through the

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motions.

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And I think that that in itself is

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what.

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And then I'll give a little grace.

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That's simple.

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It's not easy.

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Sure.

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So do it a little bit.

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Yeah.

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And then try some more and then maybe

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get excited about it.

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Right, one new thing a week,

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that's fifty-two new things a year.

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I like the math on that.

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What's one unconventional path more PTs

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might consider?

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Are there things out there that you're

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like, hey,

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more people should know about this?

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Well,

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I think not necessarily unconventional,

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but I had an unconventional way into

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academia.

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And so I got a text message saying,

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would you want to teach night labs?

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And I have no PhD, EDD, DSC training.

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All I had was a clinical doctorate.

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But I think that that concept of

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I had a passion for communication and a

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passion for teaching,

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but never even thought when I graduated PT

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school that education was a direction that

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I would be able to go in.

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And so I think it's be willing to

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volunteer and teach that class or put on

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that platform or seminar in your local

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community and then allow that to sort of

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see what opportunities stem from that.

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Because that one lab section turned into

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two, which then turned into four,

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which then turned into a full-time

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position.

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And so I think for me,

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I wouldn't be where I am today without

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my physical therapy degree.

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And I wouldn't have, yes,

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the social media platform or the book or

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the opportunity to be an academic if it

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wasn't for allowing myself to step outside

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the box.

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Say yes.

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Yeah.

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Right?

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How bad could it go?

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Sure.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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How do you help people rediscover joy in

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their work?

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Ooh.

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Yeah, that's a big question.

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And I think that that opportunity,

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finding joy in their work,

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you have to find joy in yourself first.

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And so I think that that idea of

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in the book, one of our interviews,

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we had this concept of micro joys,

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not macro joys,

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because I think we live for the for

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the Christmas, the spring break,

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the summer vacation.

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Right.

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And then we sort of pedal to the

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metal in between these large joy events,

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but then we have to intersperse micro

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joys.

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And I think that finding those small

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things that bring you that happiness on a

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daily basis and having four or five

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different things that can also bring you

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happiness in case

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Well, the sun's not out.

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It's going to be a bad day.

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Well, no,

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but I can still read a book.

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I can still do X, Y, and Z.

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And so I think that finding what within

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the profession,

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what within your occupation is the thing

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that brings you happiness.

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For me,

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it's having the opportunity to

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communicate.

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And so if I go through a day

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and I don't have a chance to communicate

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with students, I get itchy, right?

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So now I have to figure out, well,

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what are the other opportunities that also

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facilitate that?

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But what can I tap into when I'm

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not?

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Not teaching.

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Kind of look for it.

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Yeah.

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Right?

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If you're not looking for it and you're

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waiting for it to show up, it might,

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but it also might not.

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You have to go out and get it.

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We have a tradition on the show.

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Sure.

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It's called the parting shot.

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This is the parting shot.

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One last mic drop moment.

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No pressure.

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Just your legacy on the line.

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All right,

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Parting Shot is brought to you by U.S.

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in the expo hall,

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which is where I'm standing.

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All right, so you're parting shot.

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What's one question PTs should ask

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themselves to find what actually makes

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them happy,

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what actually makes them happy?

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If you could not tell,

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if you could not show people what you're

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doing, would you still do it?

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Say it again.

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If I could not tell you,

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if I could not show you,

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if I could not post on Instagram what

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I'm doing, would you still do it?

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Oh, that's a great question.

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I think we live for that Instagram

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highlight reel.

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But at the end of the day,

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if you'd still do that, like for me,

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I enjoy climbing mountains.

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I would still climb a mountain if I

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couldn't put a picture up from the summit.

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And that's, I forget whose quote it was.

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I'll give them props later,

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but there's two reasons to climb a

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mountain.

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One is so that the world can see

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you.

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And the other one is so you can

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see the world and you see which one

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is a little bit more, you know.

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So if finances weren't a part of it,

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what would you still do?

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Great parting shot.

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All right, Tim,

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appreciate what you're doing.

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Just make sure,

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I'll put it in the show notes,

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but make sure everybody knows the

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Instagram account.

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Yeah,

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it's anatomy underscore professor and at

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TikTok, A&P underscore professor.

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Love to see you there.

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Keep doing it.

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Well done.

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Appreciate you stopping by for CSM.

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Yeah.

