WEBVTT 00:00:00.694 --> 00:00:13.582 Come on, there we go. 00:00:13.602 --> 00:00:15.083 Doing another live broadcast here from 00:00:15.102 --> 00:00:17.583 APTA CSM in Anaheim, California. 00:00:18.044 --> 00:00:20.265 The CEO of World Physiotherapy. 00:00:21.428 --> 00:00:22.329 And we've got his entourage, 00:00:22.349 --> 00:00:23.028 his bodyguards. 00:00:23.048 --> 00:00:23.789 They're lurking around, 00:00:23.809 --> 00:00:25.210 making sure everything's taken care of. 00:00:25.731 --> 00:00:27.652 Representing the profession across more 00:00:27.672 --> 00:00:29.974 than a hundred and twenty countries and 00:00:30.033 --> 00:00:32.595 helping shape the future of physiotherapy 00:00:32.695 --> 00:00:33.237 worldwide. 00:00:33.277 --> 00:00:34.737 Joining us to share what's next for the 00:00:34.777 --> 00:00:35.878 profession on a global scale. 00:00:36.198 --> 00:00:38.320 Please welcome City J to the live stream. 00:00:38.341 --> 00:00:39.981 City, welcome to the show. 00:00:40.142 --> 00:00:41.082 Thank you very much, Jimmy. 00:00:41.523 --> 00:00:42.363 Appreciate you having here. 00:00:42.384 --> 00:00:44.725 Have you come to CSM before? 00:00:44.744 --> 00:00:45.345 Is this your first? 00:00:46.045 --> 00:00:47.787 Funny enough, this is my first CSM. 00:00:48.408 --> 00:00:50.911 I explained it when I came to my 00:00:50.930 --> 00:00:51.712 first and went home. 00:00:51.972 --> 00:00:53.232 I explained it to my classmates because I 00:00:53.253 --> 00:00:53.893 was still a PT student. 00:00:53.914 --> 00:00:55.354 And I said it was like a circus 00:00:55.956 --> 00:00:57.957 with like eighteen different circuses in 00:00:57.997 --> 00:00:58.158 it. 00:00:58.859 --> 00:01:00.060 Are you getting that same vibe? 00:01:00.079 --> 00:01:01.261 And this is day one, but. 00:01:01.521 --> 00:01:01.981 Definitely. 00:01:02.201 --> 00:01:03.402 Yeah, definitely I am. 00:01:03.523 --> 00:01:04.885 And it's so impressive. 00:01:04.944 --> 00:01:05.765 It's unbelievable. 00:01:05.906 --> 00:01:06.165 Yeah. 00:01:06.445 --> 00:01:07.968 Even though I'm quite used to 00:01:08.087 --> 00:01:09.188 international congresses. 00:01:09.881 --> 00:01:11.201 But this is mind-blowing. 00:01:11.281 --> 00:01:12.423 Yeah, it's a lot. 00:01:13.263 --> 00:01:14.444 We tell people to pace themselves. 00:01:14.463 --> 00:01:15.724 It's a marathon, not a sprint. 00:01:16.844 --> 00:01:17.745 So how do we set up? 00:01:18.146 --> 00:01:21.528 Let's start with what is World Physio? 00:01:21.688 --> 00:01:22.248 What is that? 00:01:22.289 --> 00:01:22.489 I mean, 00:01:23.269 --> 00:01:24.650 I saw the name while I was a 00:01:25.109 --> 00:01:25.730 PT student, 00:01:26.730 --> 00:01:29.093 but I didn't understand it until I was 00:01:29.153 --> 00:01:30.513 exposed to people who had been to a 00:01:30.554 --> 00:01:30.993 congress, 00:01:31.013 --> 00:01:32.194 and then they explained everything. 00:01:32.454 --> 00:01:32.694 To me, 00:01:32.715 --> 00:01:33.676 it felt like the UN of PT. 00:01:33.695 --> 00:01:34.376 It is indeed. 00:01:34.415 --> 00:01:34.835 Yeah. 00:01:37.084 --> 00:01:37.846 I like that one, 00:01:37.926 --> 00:01:40.328 but World Physiotherapy is, 00:01:40.468 --> 00:01:42.290 as the name says, 00:01:42.531 --> 00:01:46.394 is the World Confederation for Physical 00:01:46.435 --> 00:01:46.894 Therapy. 00:01:47.335 --> 00:01:49.218 World Physio is our brand name, 00:01:50.399 --> 00:01:53.341 but we are legally the World Confederation 00:01:53.402 --> 00:01:54.462 for Physical Therapy. 00:01:55.203 --> 00:01:58.087 And that's the global body that represents 00:01:58.106 --> 00:01:58.787 the profession. 00:01:59.884 --> 00:02:02.385 We are a confederation of hundred and 00:02:02.445 --> 00:02:03.885 twenty nine countries, 00:02:04.326 --> 00:02:05.466 member organization, 00:02:06.507 --> 00:02:10.770 and we represent over six hundred thousand 00:02:10.871 --> 00:02:12.592 physiotherapists around the world. 00:02:12.771 --> 00:02:12.991 Wow. 00:02:13.919 --> 00:02:15.341 and uh city's now going to give us 00:02:15.401 --> 00:02:16.662 all hundred and twenty nine countries in 00:02:16.701 --> 00:02:17.902 alphabetical order whenever you're ready 00:02:17.923 --> 00:02:20.304 just go we're not gonna do that um 00:02:20.344 --> 00:02:22.366 so now we understand sort of what what 00:02:22.445 --> 00:02:24.627 things are on the radar what it would 00:02:24.687 --> 00:02:26.068 i mean you just have to pay attention 00:02:26.108 --> 00:02:28.409 to the entire world uh that can't be 00:02:28.490 --> 00:02:30.471 easy uh what are what are the things 00:02:30.491 --> 00:02:32.612 that are on your radar looking at the 00:02:32.752 --> 00:02:35.574 scope as wide as it goes the world 00:02:35.615 --> 00:02:36.455 well um 00:02:37.718 --> 00:02:40.043 I will respond in kind of two different 00:02:40.824 --> 00:02:41.264 aspects. 00:02:41.344 --> 00:02:44.189 The first one is for World Physiotherapy 00:02:44.350 --> 00:02:45.252 as an institution. 00:02:46.133 --> 00:02:46.715 As you know, 00:02:46.875 --> 00:02:49.378 I've been appointed as the CEO 00:02:51.128 --> 00:02:51.769 last April. 00:02:52.610 --> 00:02:54.471 So it's less than a year, 00:02:54.770 --> 00:02:56.671 even though I've been working for World 00:02:56.692 --> 00:02:58.092 Physio for the past ten years. 00:02:58.872 --> 00:03:02.615 So we're going through lots of changes as 00:03:02.655 --> 00:03:06.377 an institution because we are putting back 00:03:06.956 --> 00:03:09.639 our membership at the heart of World 00:03:09.658 --> 00:03:10.199 Physio. 00:03:11.099 --> 00:03:13.241 And that means a lot. 00:03:13.621 --> 00:03:15.141 It's about integrating 00:03:16.454 --> 00:03:20.355 our membership's priorities, their vision, 00:03:20.515 --> 00:03:23.038 their aspiration across the globe. 00:03:23.837 --> 00:03:24.519 And as you know, 00:03:24.538 --> 00:03:25.739 it's not a one-size-fits-all. 00:03:25.758 --> 00:03:26.659 Yeah, it can't be. 00:03:26.800 --> 00:03:30.681 The reality in the United States is very 00:03:30.722 --> 00:03:32.962 much different from what we have, 00:03:33.022 --> 00:03:33.643 let's say, 00:03:33.903 --> 00:03:38.786 in Sudan or what we have in Senegal. 00:03:39.126 --> 00:03:39.606 But yet, 00:03:40.287 --> 00:03:42.568 we are all part of the same global 00:03:42.608 --> 00:03:43.068 community. 00:03:44.027 --> 00:03:46.969 with a responsibility for World Physio to 00:03:47.090 --> 00:03:50.271 cater for every one of our members' needs. 00:03:51.012 --> 00:03:51.632 So for that, 00:03:52.272 --> 00:03:53.993 we need to be able to go through 00:03:54.054 --> 00:03:55.435 some strategic changes, 00:03:56.435 --> 00:03:59.336 redefining our global priorities. 00:04:00.097 --> 00:04:02.658 And it's good that we are about to 00:04:02.799 --> 00:04:05.259 embark again on another three-year cycle 00:04:05.520 --> 00:04:08.141 where we define our strategic objectives. 00:04:09.403 --> 00:04:12.205 And it's quite challenging because the 00:04:12.246 --> 00:04:13.227 world is changing. 00:04:14.187 --> 00:04:16.088 AI is knocking at the door, 00:04:16.468 --> 00:04:20.572 being perceived by some as a replacement 00:04:20.851 --> 00:04:24.115 for this profession, which it's not. 00:04:24.814 --> 00:04:26.596 but also it's something that we need to 00:04:26.757 --> 00:04:30.300 embrace and make sure we customize it, 00:04:30.420 --> 00:04:31.961 we tailor it to our need, 00:04:32.343 --> 00:04:36.646 making sure that it is a supplement rather 00:04:36.666 --> 00:04:37.947 than a replacement. 00:04:38.769 --> 00:04:41.752 So also globally, 00:04:41.911 --> 00:04:44.353 the world is changing and other 00:04:44.413 --> 00:04:47.117 professions that work across the medical 00:04:47.156 --> 00:04:47.437 field 00:04:48.077 --> 00:04:50.178 We need to make sure that we are 00:04:50.218 --> 00:04:51.060 fit for purpose, 00:04:51.620 --> 00:04:53.302 we are trained for purpose, 00:04:53.541 --> 00:04:55.682 our competencies are well-defined, 00:04:55.783 --> 00:04:58.165 our scope of practice well-defined, 00:04:58.285 --> 00:05:00.185 and this across the globe. 00:05:00.826 --> 00:05:03.949 There are countries where it's far more 00:05:04.048 --> 00:05:06.189 advanced than what we're working on 00:05:06.310 --> 00:05:09.312 because they've been developing this 00:05:09.351 --> 00:05:12.314 profession over the past seventy-five 00:05:12.374 --> 00:05:14.255 years of World Physio's existence, 00:05:15.175 --> 00:05:17.377 where direct access is a reality. 00:05:18.394 --> 00:05:20.254 where the title is protected, 00:05:20.915 --> 00:05:23.396 where there is a career development plan. 00:05:23.677 --> 00:05:26.358 You can enter as a clinician and end 00:05:26.418 --> 00:05:29.420 up being a seasoned academic or an 00:05:29.500 --> 00:05:30.701 advanced practitioner. 00:05:31.221 --> 00:05:33.021 But when you look across the globe, 00:05:33.281 --> 00:05:34.802 it's not the same reality. 00:05:35.362 --> 00:05:37.863 There are countries where you enter as a 00:05:37.923 --> 00:05:41.026 clinician, you retire as a clinician. 00:05:41.706 --> 00:05:44.208 There are countries where you have over 00:05:44.307 --> 00:05:46.209 ten million population, 00:05:47.062 --> 00:05:48.884 with one trained physio. 00:05:49.725 --> 00:05:51.966 So the dynamics are very different from 00:05:52.047 --> 00:05:53.048 one point to another. 00:05:53.447 --> 00:05:55.230 But yet, as a global community, 00:05:55.870 --> 00:05:59.654 everything we need is from within. 00:06:00.295 --> 00:06:02.237 We don't have to reinvent everything. 00:06:02.817 --> 00:06:05.540 Whatever Senegal will be going through in 00:06:05.560 --> 00:06:06.841 the next fifty years, 00:06:08.685 --> 00:06:12.471 APTA or APA in Australia have gone through 00:06:12.490 --> 00:06:13.211 the same process. 00:06:13.291 --> 00:06:13.552 Years ago. 00:06:13.952 --> 00:06:16.235 And that level of expertise and knowledge 00:06:16.476 --> 00:06:17.057 is here. 00:06:17.437 --> 00:06:18.620 We just need to leverage it. 00:06:19.461 --> 00:06:21.903 We need to enhance the collaboration 00:06:22.225 --> 00:06:23.927 within World Physios member. 00:06:25.807 --> 00:06:28.209 act as the global community that we should 00:06:28.250 --> 00:06:30.391 be and if we do that we will 00:06:30.411 --> 00:06:32.994 look at the same direction together and be 00:06:33.134 --> 00:06:35.336 able to progress together and turn this 00:06:35.435 --> 00:06:39.178 institution is what those the founding 00:06:39.218 --> 00:06:42.701 members who sat together in that vision 00:06:42.721 --> 00:06:45.685 they have will be able to make it 00:06:46.004 --> 00:06:47.446 real i'm ready to go you got me 00:06:47.466 --> 00:06:48.887 hyped up that's the hype real that's what 00:06:48.906 --> 00:06:49.288 i need to hear 00:06:51.973 --> 00:06:53.415 You mentioned AI, 00:06:53.694 --> 00:06:55.196 workforce shortages as well, 00:06:55.516 --> 00:06:57.156 and changes in healthcare delivery. 00:06:59.278 --> 00:07:02.079 What should clinicians focus on to stay 00:07:02.180 --> 00:07:04.122 relevant in the next five to ten years? 00:07:04.242 --> 00:07:05.942 And you mentioned there a second ago in 00:07:05.983 --> 00:07:06.882 terms of AI is, 00:07:07.283 --> 00:07:08.824 well first understand what it is, 00:07:09.103 --> 00:07:10.644 what it can do, what it can't do, 00:07:10.725 --> 00:07:12.365 and then where you fit, I imagine. 00:07:12.386 --> 00:07:16.369 And I think the starting point is, 00:07:17.398 --> 00:07:18.178 the education, 00:07:18.800 --> 00:07:21.882 because to be a physio with or without 00:07:22.083 --> 00:07:24.386 AI, you need to be properly trained. 00:07:25.065 --> 00:07:27.889 You need to get the set of competence 00:07:27.968 --> 00:07:30.512 that a professional needs to have to be 00:07:30.612 --> 00:07:31.233 a physio. 00:07:31.973 --> 00:07:33.516 AI is a tool. 00:07:33.636 --> 00:07:37.259 It's something that invited itself in our 00:07:37.339 --> 00:07:39.401 world and you got to deal with it. 00:07:39.742 --> 00:07:42.545 it can make our life much easier. 00:07:42.666 --> 00:07:43.968 Access to information, 00:07:44.449 --> 00:07:46.932 processing huge amount of data, 00:07:47.392 --> 00:07:51.158 doing some of the critical kind of 00:07:51.720 --> 00:07:53.161 thinking piece on 00:07:53.971 --> 00:07:58.194 not the actual skills that we have, 00:07:58.473 --> 00:08:01.954 but in the management of the system in 00:08:02.014 --> 00:08:02.454 itself. 00:08:02.894 --> 00:08:05.196 So it has to be contained, 00:08:05.315 --> 00:08:07.297 it has to be controlled. 00:08:07.336 --> 00:08:09.997 The problem is not AI in my view, 00:08:10.437 --> 00:08:13.319 is the use we as human and professional 00:08:13.379 --> 00:08:14.319 rule have of AI. 00:08:15.100 --> 00:08:19.101 I don't see a world where AI will 00:08:19.182 --> 00:08:19.802 replace 00:08:20.865 --> 00:08:24.526 the physician or the clinician. 00:08:24.567 --> 00:08:26.608 I would see a world where the clinician 00:08:26.747 --> 00:08:29.269 is able to pull out from AI, 00:08:29.769 --> 00:08:33.150 utilize AI as the fundamental tool to be 00:08:33.291 --> 00:08:35.451 able to deliver the services he was 00:08:35.552 --> 00:08:36.772 trained to do. 00:08:37.332 --> 00:08:38.712 Because at the end of the day, 00:08:38.793 --> 00:08:41.033 our primary role is to deliver those 00:08:41.094 --> 00:08:41.815 services. 00:08:42.355 --> 00:08:45.395 Any tools now we can use to improve 00:08:45.436 --> 00:08:46.677 that service delivery 00:08:48.225 --> 00:08:50.568 is welcome yeah we just need to regulate 00:08:50.609 --> 00:08:53.212 it understand it turn it into something 00:08:53.253 --> 00:08:56.056 that is trustworthy because nature by 00:08:56.135 --> 00:09:00.501 night uh is doesn't entertain vacuum right 00:09:01.077 --> 00:09:02.639 In the absence of regulation, 00:09:03.479 --> 00:09:05.159 it will self-regulate itself at your 00:09:05.200 --> 00:09:06.019 disadvantage. 00:09:06.980 --> 00:09:10.422 In the absence of proactive decisions, 00:09:11.102 --> 00:09:13.543 you will have later on when you realize 00:09:13.563 --> 00:09:15.585 that you missed that opportunity to deal 00:09:15.625 --> 00:09:18.405 with what it has created and turn it 00:09:18.485 --> 00:09:19.726 into what it should have been. 00:09:20.346 --> 00:09:22.048 And we should not make that mistake. 00:09:22.727 --> 00:09:25.190 Now we have the opportunity to put the 00:09:25.250 --> 00:09:26.892 legal framework that comes with it, 00:09:27.292 --> 00:09:28.952 to redefine our use, 00:09:28.993 --> 00:09:31.855 to make it trustworthy and usable across 00:09:31.916 --> 00:09:32.856 the board. 00:09:32.897 --> 00:09:34.898 That's where our challenge is. 00:09:34.937 --> 00:09:37.200 We should not be led into thinking that 00:09:37.721 --> 00:09:39.642 AI is a competitor. 00:09:39.662 --> 00:09:40.283 No, it's not. 00:09:41.244 --> 00:09:42.225 It's definitely not. 00:09:42.945 --> 00:09:43.085 Now, 00:09:43.125 --> 00:09:44.667 what will make it good or bad is 00:09:44.687 --> 00:09:45.888 the user will have it, 00:09:46.028 --> 00:09:47.589 and that lies in our hands. 00:09:48.169 --> 00:09:48.909 I got to ask you this, 00:09:49.331 --> 00:09:50.211 a hundred and twenty-nine member 00:09:50.250 --> 00:09:50.831 organizations, 00:09:52.178 --> 00:09:53.320 When you're gonna go in and do work, 00:09:54.080 --> 00:09:56.562 imagine you've gotta understand culture 00:09:56.662 --> 00:09:58.984 and language and history long before the 00:09:59.024 --> 00:10:00.224 first meeting. 00:10:00.264 --> 00:10:04.988 And that's simple, but that can't be easy. 00:10:05.028 --> 00:10:05.508 Well, 00:10:05.788 --> 00:10:07.749 that's the challenge we have as global 00:10:07.788 --> 00:10:08.190 leaders. 00:10:08.269 --> 00:10:08.669 Yeah. 00:10:08.970 --> 00:10:09.791 Because today, 00:10:11.038 --> 00:10:12.357 It's about togetherness. 00:10:12.378 --> 00:10:16.200 It's about being together because we are 00:10:16.240 --> 00:10:18.921 the architects in some way of our own 00:10:19.000 --> 00:10:21.041 challenges and our own failures. 00:10:21.760 --> 00:10:22.601 Quite often, 00:10:23.001 --> 00:10:26.062 instead of understanding what we're 00:10:26.082 --> 00:10:29.403 dealing with and address it head on, 00:10:30.359 --> 00:10:34.543 We prefer to create parallel alternative, 00:10:34.783 --> 00:10:37.025 not knowing that in doing that, 00:10:37.066 --> 00:10:39.688 we're not negating or eliminating this. 00:10:40.570 --> 00:10:43.272 We only turning it into a threat we'll 00:10:43.312 --> 00:10:44.953 have to deal with in the future. 00:10:45.375 --> 00:10:49.239 Because today, if you look at each other, 00:10:50.475 --> 00:10:51.176 We're different. 00:10:51.596 --> 00:10:53.496 We're different from a cultural point of 00:10:53.517 --> 00:10:53.777 view. 00:10:53.797 --> 00:10:56.818 We're different from many angles or many 00:10:57.220 --> 00:11:01.101 ways we as humans have adapted in how 00:11:01.142 --> 00:11:02.582 we differentiate each other. 00:11:02.864 --> 00:11:06.745 But we're here sharing one passion, 00:11:07.787 --> 00:11:10.028 one profession, one vision. 00:11:11.028 --> 00:11:13.530 And we can choose to focus on what 00:11:13.591 --> 00:11:14.552 we have in common. 00:11:15.774 --> 00:11:18.414 or what we have in difference. 00:11:19.575 --> 00:11:21.655 And we should not make that because that 00:11:21.716 --> 00:11:22.316 difference, 00:11:23.216 --> 00:11:26.256 we should embrace it and turn it into 00:11:26.857 --> 00:11:30.499 a positive stimulator for what we have in 00:11:30.578 --> 00:11:32.178 common, which is this profession. 00:11:32.259 --> 00:11:32.720 The strength, 00:11:32.740 --> 00:11:33.919 you'd turn it into a strength. 00:11:33.960 --> 00:11:36.280 Turn it into a strength because if today 00:11:36.321 --> 00:11:37.821 you have a Ghanaian physio, 00:11:38.721 --> 00:11:39.802 a Brazilian physio, 00:11:40.904 --> 00:11:42.004 An American physio, 00:11:42.345 --> 00:11:44.765 as long as they stay within the sphere 00:11:44.846 --> 00:11:45.905 of physiotherapy, 00:11:45.946 --> 00:11:47.706 they speak the same language, 00:11:48.106 --> 00:11:51.187 have the same issue, the same aspiration, 00:11:52.107 --> 00:11:53.628 and that's what brings us together. 00:11:54.548 --> 00:11:54.748 Now, 00:11:54.947 --> 00:11:57.668 our ability as a global organization is 00:11:57.749 --> 00:12:02.409 how we can transcend those differences 00:12:02.490 --> 00:12:03.690 that we're focusing on, 00:12:03.770 --> 00:12:05.530 turn them into strength. 00:12:06.806 --> 00:12:09.288 Because there is a saying somewhere around 00:12:09.307 --> 00:12:11.649 the world where they say three heads are 00:12:11.690 --> 00:12:12.429 better than one. 00:12:13.370 --> 00:12:15.153 And we have hundred and twenty nine. 00:12:15.533 --> 00:12:15.913 Yes. 00:12:16.393 --> 00:12:17.374 Challenge is different. 00:12:17.394 --> 00:12:19.816 But hundred and twenty nine countries that 00:12:19.855 --> 00:12:22.878 share the same passion, the same share, 00:12:22.918 --> 00:12:26.461 the same profession and everything we need 00:12:26.600 --> 00:12:30.644 across the board is already is already 00:12:30.865 --> 00:12:32.826 within our own membership. 00:12:33.606 --> 00:12:35.028 It's about now adopting 00:12:35.639 --> 00:12:39.702 some principles around diversity, 00:12:40.783 --> 00:12:41.565 inclusion, 00:12:42.466 --> 00:12:45.727 recognizing the impact culture and 00:12:45.748 --> 00:12:47.889 background can have in the way in which 00:12:47.929 --> 00:12:49.270 we deliver those services. 00:12:49.811 --> 00:12:52.253 But the services will still be the same 00:12:52.514 --> 00:12:53.333 across the board. 00:12:53.914 --> 00:12:58.899 An American patient doesn't have more need 00:12:59.058 --> 00:13:00.120 than the Brazilian one. 00:13:00.904 --> 00:13:02.904 A stroke patient is a stroke patient. 00:13:03.065 --> 00:13:06.546 And he doesn't make a difference between, 00:13:07.245 --> 00:13:07.566 you know. 00:13:07.586 --> 00:13:08.346 There's no border. 00:13:08.765 --> 00:13:09.767 No, not at all. 00:13:10.287 --> 00:13:12.986 And that is actually our strength as a 00:13:13.027 --> 00:13:14.106 global organization. 00:13:14.167 --> 00:13:16.347 Yeah, you said it. 00:13:17.347 --> 00:13:21.129 It is a daunting task at World Physio 00:13:21.188 --> 00:13:26.610 to try to understand what direct access 00:13:26.649 --> 00:13:27.250 could mean 00:13:28.248 --> 00:13:31.490 for an American physio and what it could 00:13:31.551 --> 00:13:34.153 mean for a South African physio. 00:13:34.734 --> 00:13:36.375 Because the context is different, 00:13:36.996 --> 00:13:38.538 the realities are different, 00:13:38.758 --> 00:13:40.580 and the way in which it's going to 00:13:40.620 --> 00:13:42.861 be implemented also is different. 00:13:43.383 --> 00:13:46.206 And there is a learning for us to 00:13:46.245 --> 00:13:52.171 see how complex needs 00:13:52.991 --> 00:13:56.453 can be translated into something simple, 00:13:56.634 --> 00:13:58.474 understandable across the board. 00:13:58.634 --> 00:14:00.154 Yeah. 00:14:00.174 --> 00:14:00.835 I'm not going to put you on the 00:14:00.855 --> 00:14:01.196 spot. 00:14:01.375 --> 00:14:02.495 You travel around the world. 00:14:02.956 --> 00:14:05.738 Maybe just some favorite cultures that 00:14:05.898 --> 00:14:07.658 maybe you weren't exposed to before your 00:14:07.717 --> 00:14:10.340 work started a decade ago with World 00:14:10.360 --> 00:14:10.720 Physio. 00:14:10.740 --> 00:14:12.299 Where are some places that you've been 00:14:12.921 --> 00:14:15.522 that you've seen and just loved it? 00:14:15.881 --> 00:14:17.243 Some highlights. 00:14:17.283 --> 00:14:21.684 Well, I will mention Tajikistan or 00:14:23.307 --> 00:14:28.328 Vietnam because we were invited by WHO to 00:14:28.389 --> 00:14:30.229 come and do a gap analysis in a 00:14:30.269 --> 00:14:34.049 country where with close to ten million 00:14:35.730 --> 00:14:38.451 population you have only one trained 00:14:38.510 --> 00:14:40.892 physio was trained in India at the 00:14:40.932 --> 00:14:45.413 bachelor degree level so and me when I 00:14:45.712 --> 00:14:46.293 got there I 00:14:47.957 --> 00:14:48.778 As an African, 00:14:51.198 --> 00:14:54.058 it was a cultural shock in a sense 00:14:54.119 --> 00:14:55.499 that for a week I was there, 00:14:55.519 --> 00:14:57.279 I was the only black guy walking around, 00:14:57.720 --> 00:15:00.299 which was quite funny because everyone was 00:15:00.460 --> 00:15:02.380 friendly, amazed in some way. 00:15:02.880 --> 00:15:04.341 But when you get into a meeting, 00:15:04.740 --> 00:15:08.182 you're introduced as senior staff from a 00:15:08.302 --> 00:15:10.022 major organization, 00:15:10.101 --> 00:15:11.822 then immediately you got people's 00:15:11.922 --> 00:15:14.082 attention and you start talking about 00:15:14.182 --> 00:15:14.802 complex 00:15:16.504 --> 00:15:21.447 health policies how this if you compare it 00:15:21.486 --> 00:15:24.268 to the United Kingdom where we base how 00:15:24.749 --> 00:15:29.010 everything was shocking you know yeah we 00:15:29.030 --> 00:15:32.253 have direct access yeah yeah it's about 00:15:32.732 --> 00:15:35.095 explaining to somebody from the Ministry 00:15:35.154 --> 00:15:37.495 of Health what a scope of practice is 00:15:37.775 --> 00:15:39.957 for the physiotherapist but 00:15:43.485 --> 00:15:46.464 If I look back seven years after, 00:15:47.847 --> 00:15:52.830 I'm just so grateful for being part of 00:15:53.529 --> 00:15:55.289 that change because today, 00:15:55.730 --> 00:15:57.451 not only we have, 00:15:57.691 --> 00:15:59.251 we introduced the first entry-level 00:15:59.292 --> 00:16:00.552 program in that country, 00:16:01.392 --> 00:16:04.072 we've kind of moved people from the 00:16:04.113 --> 00:16:06.994 Ministry of Health to our different 00:16:07.033 --> 00:16:07.754 congresses, 00:16:07.913 --> 00:16:10.174 exposed them to the reality of the 00:16:10.254 --> 00:16:11.995 profession, the scope of practice, 00:16:12.015 --> 00:16:14.515 the level of education across the globe, 00:16:14.956 --> 00:16:15.537 and today, 00:16:16.297 --> 00:16:18.820 Those individuals are our champions in the 00:16:18.879 --> 00:16:21.123 system, making everything they want, 00:16:21.562 --> 00:16:24.306 everything they can to help advance the 00:16:24.346 --> 00:16:25.687 agenda of that profession. 00:16:26.107 --> 00:16:27.629 And as a global organization, 00:16:27.690 --> 00:16:28.530 if you look back, 00:16:29.272 --> 00:16:31.934 knowing that Tadjiki Sen is not even yet 00:16:31.955 --> 00:16:33.196 a member of World Physio, 00:16:33.876 --> 00:16:35.619 But because of the work we're doing, 00:16:35.899 --> 00:16:38.282 we have introduced that profession in that 00:16:38.322 --> 00:16:41.245 country with a contemporary understanding 00:16:41.325 --> 00:16:42.586 of what the profession is. 00:16:43.006 --> 00:16:46.510 That's what we call making an impact and 00:16:46.630 --> 00:16:49.553 changing the future of the profession. 00:16:50.634 --> 00:16:51.615 Every few years, 00:16:52.798 --> 00:16:54.700 you have an event that brings together 00:16:56.154 --> 00:16:58.196 physios from member organizations from 00:16:58.255 --> 00:16:59.096 around the globe. 00:17:00.037 --> 00:17:00.576 One is coming up. 00:17:00.616 --> 00:17:02.097 It's not that far from where we are 00:17:02.158 --> 00:17:02.477 now. 00:17:03.519 --> 00:17:05.680 Looks like we're going to head to Mexico. 00:17:05.980 --> 00:17:06.819 Let's talk about that. 00:17:07.359 --> 00:17:07.599 Well, 00:17:07.740 --> 00:17:11.221 twenty twenty seven World Physio Congress 00:17:11.281 --> 00:17:12.643 will be in Guadalajara. 00:17:13.522 --> 00:17:15.723 And as you rightly say, this next door. 00:17:15.884 --> 00:17:16.064 Yeah. 00:17:16.664 --> 00:17:20.286 And which gave me the opportunity to call 00:17:21.166 --> 00:17:24.588 on all American physios to 00:17:25.781 --> 00:17:29.603 prepare to attend that Congress because 00:17:29.722 --> 00:17:33.023 beyond what it offers from a scientific 00:17:33.104 --> 00:17:35.523 point of view or education point of view, 00:17:36.163 --> 00:17:39.244 but it's also about celebrating a 00:17:39.305 --> 00:17:39.865 profession. 00:17:40.786 --> 00:17:42.425 It's also about sharing. 00:17:43.105 --> 00:17:45.906 It's also about belonging to a global 00:17:45.946 --> 00:17:46.527 community. 00:17:47.106 --> 00:17:49.248 Because one thing about physio across the 00:17:49.288 --> 00:17:50.907 board is 00:17:52.030 --> 00:17:56.311 I've never seen people who love sharing, 00:17:56.732 --> 00:17:59.834 cherish sharing more than the physios. 00:18:00.773 --> 00:18:03.634 Because like I said to you earlier, 00:18:04.934 --> 00:18:07.796 before being the CEO of World Physio, 00:18:07.895 --> 00:18:10.096 I was the head of development with World 00:18:10.136 --> 00:18:10.537 Physio. 00:18:13.373 --> 00:18:16.653 gave me the opportunity to go to Vietnam, 00:18:16.693 --> 00:18:19.035 work on upgrading the entry level program 00:18:19.494 --> 00:18:23.576 to West Africa, to Central Asia, 00:18:23.896 --> 00:18:26.857 to other South East Asian country. 00:18:27.298 --> 00:18:30.439 So that gives you like a global kind 00:18:30.499 --> 00:18:33.079 of view of what's happening in the 00:18:33.119 --> 00:18:33.720 profession. 00:18:33.740 --> 00:18:35.300 But everywhere we go, 00:18:36.221 --> 00:18:38.482 when other profession they will have to 00:18:38.542 --> 00:18:41.685 mobilize a lot of resources to develop 00:18:41.905 --> 00:18:45.229 teaching materials to to kind of assert 00:18:45.269 --> 00:18:48.872 something for us it always started at the 00:18:48.971 --> 00:18:51.153 voluntary level every time we needed 00:18:51.213 --> 00:18:52.996 something it's from within 00:18:53.496 --> 00:18:56.116 we will find individuals that will be 00:18:56.278 --> 00:18:58.338 ready to jump on the next flight to 00:18:58.378 --> 00:19:01.740 go and support the development of their 00:19:01.780 --> 00:19:03.922 profession in another country. 00:19:04.422 --> 00:19:05.722 And that's remarkable. 00:19:05.762 --> 00:19:06.762 That's fabulous. 00:19:07.163 --> 00:19:09.023 And that's what characterizes physios 00:19:09.124 --> 00:19:09.924 across the board. 00:19:10.625 --> 00:19:11.786 Now, obviously, 00:19:12.266 --> 00:19:14.928 the state of the profession in Mexico or 00:19:15.048 --> 00:19:17.469 in South America is very different from 00:19:17.509 --> 00:19:19.670 what we have in the United States. 00:19:20.210 --> 00:19:21.490 But as a global profession, 00:19:21.570 --> 00:19:22.352 how good are we? 00:19:23.132 --> 00:19:25.613 if everything works in one country and in 00:19:25.653 --> 00:19:27.854 the neighboring country we still have a 00:19:27.993 --> 00:19:32.497 lot to do and that's the message that 00:19:32.557 --> 00:19:36.719 i'm carrying it's not about yes going to 00:19:36.759 --> 00:19:39.599 a scientific event where you can network 00:19:40.299 --> 00:19:41.080 it's about 00:19:42.285 --> 00:19:42.924 support. 00:19:43.766 --> 00:19:45.307 It's about togetherness. 00:19:46.067 --> 00:19:48.567 And it's about building on the future of 00:19:48.688 --> 00:19:50.648 our profession, which is our future. 00:19:50.788 --> 00:19:51.910 You've got something a little different. 00:19:52.529 --> 00:19:54.010 I'll explain what I know and you correct 00:19:54.030 --> 00:19:54.151 me. 00:19:54.290 --> 00:19:56.392 But if someone's going to present on a 00:19:56.451 --> 00:19:57.452 topic at World Physio, 00:19:58.749 --> 00:20:00.329 they have to have somebody from other 00:20:01.131 --> 00:20:01.871 member organizations. 00:20:01.891 --> 00:20:03.291 They have to have people from other 00:20:03.352 --> 00:20:04.673 countries with them. 00:20:04.873 --> 00:20:06.615 So it can't just be a presentation of 00:20:06.654 --> 00:20:08.695 all Americans or people from France. 00:20:10.436 --> 00:20:12.077 Is that close and why? 00:20:12.878 --> 00:20:15.840 Not exactly, because for Focus Symposia, 00:20:15.861 --> 00:20:16.701 for example, 00:20:17.021 --> 00:20:18.583 it's a partnership you can have. 00:20:19.243 --> 00:20:20.944 Jimmy from the United States, 00:20:20.964 --> 00:20:22.386 somebody else from another country, 00:20:22.406 --> 00:20:24.789 they come together around specific topics. 00:20:25.210 --> 00:20:25.430 Now, 00:20:25.490 --> 00:20:27.633 when it comes to abstracts and other 00:20:27.673 --> 00:20:30.895 sessions, you can, you as an American, 00:20:30.936 --> 00:20:32.898 come in and present your own abstracts. 00:20:32.919 --> 00:20:34.000 Somebody else can do that. 00:20:34.059 --> 00:20:35.020 But we... 00:20:35.981 --> 00:20:36.982 We at World Physio, 00:20:37.002 --> 00:20:41.067 we try to make sure that in the 00:20:41.146 --> 00:20:43.009 program, in the making of program, 00:20:43.068 --> 00:20:44.770 we enabling connections. 00:20:45.411 --> 00:20:48.054 We encouraging people to come together 00:20:48.875 --> 00:20:51.897 from different horizon to come and work 00:20:51.938 --> 00:20:52.417 together. 00:20:52.577 --> 00:20:54.660 And that's why a Congress program 00:20:54.680 --> 00:20:56.041 committee has been put together. 00:20:56.142 --> 00:20:57.943 It is led by Dr. Judy Dutch, 00:20:57.963 --> 00:20:58.804 who is American. 00:20:59.525 --> 00:21:00.924 But in that committee, 00:21:01.345 --> 00:21:04.246 we have representatives from all the five 00:21:04.286 --> 00:21:05.666 regions of world physio, 00:21:06.166 --> 00:21:08.787 from highly developed countries, 00:21:08.826 --> 00:21:10.688 from low- and middle-income countries. 00:21:10.708 --> 00:21:12.248 We've got academic clinicians. 00:21:12.268 --> 00:21:15.628 We've got seasoned practitioners and early 00:21:15.669 --> 00:21:17.809 career physios. 00:21:17.869 --> 00:21:20.611 We're trying to bring everyone together to 00:21:20.671 --> 00:21:22.270 get that global perspective. 00:21:22.451 --> 00:21:24.471 And that's the same method that is being 00:21:24.632 --> 00:21:26.132 used for each one of these sessions. 00:21:26.251 --> 00:21:26.712 Yeah. 00:21:26.752 --> 00:21:28.034 So in one topic, 00:21:28.074 --> 00:21:30.396 you're going to have multicultural views 00:21:30.897 --> 00:21:32.019 in one presentation. 00:21:32.038 --> 00:21:33.381 So one won't dominate. 00:21:33.701 --> 00:21:35.123 So I love how you bake that into 00:21:35.503 --> 00:21:37.746 the programming to make sure that's never 00:21:37.826 --> 00:21:39.449 separated out in that event. 00:21:39.489 --> 00:21:40.970 Yeah, because it's about collaboration. 00:21:41.010 --> 00:21:41.290 Sure. 00:21:41.471 --> 00:21:44.114 it's about sharing knowledge it's about 00:21:44.233 --> 00:21:46.636 also being together it's about breaking 00:21:46.696 --> 00:21:49.599 those fictive barriers that we have we're 00:21:49.640 --> 00:21:51.942 coming together as a global community 00:21:52.202 --> 00:21:55.425 we're coming together demonstrating what 00:21:55.465 --> 00:21:57.949 diversity and inclusion means for world 00:21:57.969 --> 00:21:59.369 physio in in 00:22:00.290 --> 00:22:01.051 living example. 00:22:01.192 --> 00:22:02.393 Exactly. 00:22:02.452 --> 00:22:05.015 And the simple fact that we are moving 00:22:05.115 --> 00:22:06.916 from one continent to another, 00:22:06.936 --> 00:22:09.057 from one country to another every two 00:22:09.097 --> 00:22:13.301 years tells you about how important that 00:22:13.362 --> 00:22:14.903 togetherness is for us. 00:22:15.384 --> 00:22:16.865 And if you look at World Physio as 00:22:16.904 --> 00:22:17.566 a global body, 00:22:18.266 --> 00:22:19.626 We scattered around the world, 00:22:19.928 --> 00:22:21.388 and it's United States, 00:22:21.489 --> 00:22:22.730 I live in South of France, 00:22:22.750 --> 00:22:23.891 some are in Germany, 00:22:23.931 --> 00:22:25.291 some others are in Kuala Lumpur, 00:22:25.553 --> 00:22:27.575 because that's the global community we are 00:22:27.595 --> 00:22:27.994 together. 00:22:28.355 --> 00:22:28.996 And today, 00:22:29.576 --> 00:22:32.078 technology has allowed us to do a lot 00:22:32.318 --> 00:22:34.520 more than we could have done probably a 00:22:34.560 --> 00:22:35.321 few years back. 00:22:36.007 --> 00:22:36.926 It's wild. 00:22:36.946 --> 00:22:37.166 All right. 00:22:37.207 --> 00:22:38.948 Last thing we do is on the it's 00:22:38.968 --> 00:22:39.868 called the parting shot. 00:22:40.409 --> 00:22:43.910 So what's a what's a sentiment, a thought, 00:22:44.029 --> 00:22:44.529 a quote, 00:22:44.549 --> 00:22:46.030 something you would want to leave the 00:22:46.050 --> 00:22:48.771 global audience of physio to think about? 00:22:49.511 --> 00:22:51.413 Well, before that, if you allow me, 00:22:51.492 --> 00:22:52.933 I would like to just to say a 00:22:52.993 --> 00:22:55.835 few words about one major activities we 00:22:55.855 --> 00:22:56.654 have in this year, 00:22:56.694 --> 00:22:58.395 which is the celebration of our seventy 00:22:58.415 --> 00:22:58.895 fifth anniversary. 00:22:59.515 --> 00:23:00.935 Seventy five years anniversary. 00:23:01.175 --> 00:23:02.076 It's not a small feat. 00:23:03.977 --> 00:23:06.518 And today we have this open a call 00:23:06.538 --> 00:23:08.939 for nomination for our member organization 00:23:09.459 --> 00:23:10.980 and they will be responsible for 00:23:11.079 --> 00:23:13.560 nominating seventy five physiotherapists 00:23:13.961 --> 00:23:15.481 that have marked 00:23:16.682 --> 00:23:18.505 their time from nineteen fifty one to 00:23:18.525 --> 00:23:20.586 today we call them the seventy five not 00:23:20.606 --> 00:23:24.150 worthy physios so we will this year 00:23:24.730 --> 00:23:27.932 celebrate those who have contributed in 00:23:27.972 --> 00:23:30.715 this fantastic journey of world 00:23:30.736 --> 00:23:32.657 physiotherapy that started in nineteen 00:23:32.698 --> 00:23:36.861 fifty one to today now to come back 00:23:37.501 --> 00:23:38.522 to uh 00:23:39.723 --> 00:23:40.845 to your saying. 00:23:42.306 --> 00:23:45.548 It's just like as an African, 00:23:45.630 --> 00:23:47.771 if you're asking me to tell you about 00:23:47.791 --> 00:23:49.633 what I'm saying, I'm like, 00:23:49.752 --> 00:23:52.256 one is just a bit too small. 00:23:52.516 --> 00:23:52.776 I mean, 00:23:52.875 --> 00:23:54.357 if you ask me to give you twenty, 00:23:54.438 --> 00:23:55.338 I would be very happy. 00:23:55.939 --> 00:24:00.123 But what I would say is just this 00:24:00.163 --> 00:24:00.784 belongs to us. 00:24:01.962 --> 00:24:03.863 World Physio is not my property, 00:24:04.263 --> 00:24:07.644 it's for all of us Physios around the 00:24:07.683 --> 00:24:07.963 world. 00:24:08.844 --> 00:24:10.765 And when you're managing something that 00:24:10.805 --> 00:24:13.565 belongs to everyone, there is a saying, 00:24:13.605 --> 00:24:15.425 they say, do not do it alone, 00:24:16.286 --> 00:24:17.826 do not understand it alone, 00:24:19.106 --> 00:24:21.126 and do not make it alone. 00:24:22.047 --> 00:24:23.407 No, sorry, do not do it alone, 00:24:24.048 --> 00:24:25.448 do not own it alone. 00:24:26.688 --> 00:24:29.169 And why is that important? 00:24:29.249 --> 00:24:29.628 Because 00:24:30.770 --> 00:24:36.094 If we share that together and everything I 00:24:36.134 --> 00:24:39.455 do on the name of the institution is 00:24:39.496 --> 00:24:41.778 something that I talk to you about, 00:24:42.458 --> 00:24:44.880 we discuss it, we do it together. 00:24:45.339 --> 00:24:48.301 So it's stopping one person's business and 00:24:48.362 --> 00:24:50.923 become our business. 00:24:51.463 --> 00:24:53.184 And in being our business, 00:24:53.285 --> 00:24:56.086 because of the contributions of the three 00:24:56.126 --> 00:24:58.248 heads is smarter than one head. 00:24:59.315 --> 00:25:00.776 We will do it smartly. 00:25:01.636 --> 00:25:03.057 We will own it. 00:25:03.377 --> 00:25:04.578 And once we own it, 00:25:05.019 --> 00:25:06.201 we will sustain it. 00:25:06.780 --> 00:25:09.002 Because if today I want to remove your 00:25:09.462 --> 00:25:10.483 beautiful bow tie, 00:25:10.785 --> 00:25:13.207 you will do everything in your power to 00:25:13.267 --> 00:25:15.608 keep it on your neck because it belongs 00:25:15.648 --> 00:25:15.989 to you. 00:25:16.409 --> 00:25:18.790 Let's make sure that World Physio is not 00:25:18.990 --> 00:25:19.971 our own property. 00:25:20.633 --> 00:25:21.953 It belongs to all of us. 00:25:22.594 --> 00:25:24.036 And if it belongs to all of us, 00:25:24.809 --> 00:25:27.451 We will all contribute and work towards 00:25:27.711 --> 00:25:28.612 sustaining it. 00:25:29.211 --> 00:25:31.252 And the best way to sustaining it is 00:25:31.292 --> 00:25:33.233 to make it fit for purpose so that 00:25:33.413 --> 00:25:35.914 our members will always cherish it, 00:25:36.194 --> 00:25:38.816 will always feel like this is something 00:25:38.836 --> 00:25:41.938 they need and this is something worth 00:25:42.198 --> 00:25:42.778 protecting. 00:25:43.038 --> 00:25:44.118 Love it. 00:25:44.159 --> 00:25:46.501 We'll share the link in the notes that 00:25:46.521 --> 00:25:49.184 go along with this episode for the 00:25:49.265 --> 00:25:51.847 Seventy-Five as well as the Congress 00:25:51.867 --> 00:25:53.369 coming up in Guadalajara next year. 00:25:53.990 --> 00:25:54.912 Appreciate the time. 00:25:55.531 --> 00:25:57.034 Thank you for coming here and being part 00:25:57.054 --> 00:25:57.654 of this with us. 00:25:57.755 --> 00:25:58.435 Much appreciated. 00:25:58.455 --> 00:25:59.156 Thank you for having me, Jimmy. 00:25:59.176 --> 00:25:59.576 It was a pleasure. 00:25:59.596 --> 00:26:00.337 Thank you.