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Here's the question.
You know those stories that sort of stick
with you?
The ones that shift your perspective or
make you ask like good questions like,
could I do that too?
Now imagine hearing six of them.
in one spot.
Oh, you know where I'm going with this.
At CSM this year in Anaheim,
a group of PTs will take the stage
to share moments that redefined how they
led in the clinic, in systems, in lives.
Keep looking, but you might, well,
you're probably not gonna see these
stories in a textbook.
They're real world moments of failure,
growth,
and impact from people who walked the walk
and live to tell about it.
We're here today to give you a little
bit of preview.
This is the movie trailer before the big
show.
It's a backstage pass into the LAMP
leadership talks coming up this year at
APTA's combined sections meeting and the
humans,
the inspiring humans behind those stories.
Let's bring in our
first guest susan lukens susan welcome to
the studio thanks for letting us be here
jimmy this is great no pressure i just
gave you the world's biggest boldest intro
okay and what's what's what's your role
here in this uh in this situation i
mean you guys are essentially
you know,
mimicking these big stories in terms of
like TED Talks, right?
Ideas that spread.
That's TED's line.
TED's lawyers are on the line.
I can't use that.
TED Style Talks.
TED Style Talks is how we say it.
So how do you define a TED Style
Talk?
Why take this route?
I know why I love them.
Why you?
Well, you know,
I fell in love with them before I
was ever part of the LAMP leadership
committee.
Because the first one I went to was
at CSM in New Orleans.
And these people got up there and they
spoke from the heart.
They talked about, like you said,
the mistakes they made as leaders and what
they learned from it and how they grew.
And it was organic and real.
And I thought, wow,
I want to be a part of this
group.
These are my people.
And I ended up joining the committee.
And I'm the current chair of the LAMP
Leadership Committee.
I teach the curriculum.
And for the last three years,
I've actually gotten up there,
butterflies in the stomach,
full convention hall,
and talked about some of the things I've
learned as a leader.
And like you said,
these aren't the things you're going to
learn in a course.
There are things like making choices of
how to figure out your work-life balance,
how to be a lifelong learner,
how to make sure that you have the
capacity
to support others and yourself as you go
through this journey.
The exciting thing this year is this we've
had ten years.
This is the tenth year of these TED
style talks.
And I can tell you every year we
have a huge convention room and it's full
and we usually go to an overflow room
where they put us up on a screen.
These are stories that people want to
hear.
We always have a long line of people
to end asking questions,
wanting to know more.
It's just it's real life as we all
live it.
So is the hardest part picking which
stories because you can't put a hundred
stories on there is one of the hardest
parts of that committee saying you're
getting the nod this year.
We're going to leave off to, you know,
we're going to leave off some great.
Yeah, it's tough picking it.
And yeah.
The exciting thing is we're in LAMP
leadership,
we're kicking off a new board
certification and part of earning the
certification is you have to put together
one of these talks and we're naming them
torch talks, you know, we're LAMP, get it?
And so we're going to have a whole
repository of these talks and we're going
to be able to have more choice of
who to put up there.
We've had excellent people for ten years,
but it's going to get a little harder
now.
And you've been recording all or most of
these, right?
They've been recorded at CSM on demand,
but we have not been recording beyond
that.
We're going to start doing that through
the recordings of the Torch Talks.
These kids today,
they don't know what a box set is,
but I got to be honest,
if you start recording,
you could have a LAMP box set.
I don't want to skip past this.
My show touches a bunch of random people.
I have no idea how you find me.
Real quick,
I don't want to make it a plug
for LAMP, but plug LAMP.
People might have heard of it or maybe
never.
What is LAMP?
It's funny that we still call it CSM,
Combined Section Meetings,
because we are now all academies.
And the Academy of Leadership and
Innovation is our academy.
You can be in academies that are all
clinically driven.
This is the academy for everything else.
The Academy of Leadership and Innovation
is where you go if you want to
be part of the leadership committee or the
management.
LAMP is leadership and management
together.
It doesn't matter whether you have the
title, the actual,
we call it the big L title of
director, manager, whatever,
or if you are what we call the
little L leader.
Anyone in physical therapy, PTA, PT,
you are a leader.
You're asking patients to do some funny
things.
You're asking their families to do some
funny things.
You really are a leader.
So we have curriculum for you.
And then the other parts of the Academy
of Leadership and Innovation are things
like global health, PT Proud,
the Technopalooza group is in there.
So it's really all of those areas that
aren't directly a specific clinical
practice.
So yeah,
please go to our website and look at
everything that's there.
It's really a robust group of individuals
that are very passionate about what we do.
I got called,
I got yelled at by someone.
I won't say who, because I was like,
it sounds like, and it's bad marketing,
but it solves the answer, which is,
it sounds like the junk drawer for PT.
But the funny part about the junk drawer
is that's where all the good stuff is.
You can't, you need, you know,
you've got the right tool.
It's in that drawer.
yeah junk drawer is not a great marketing
term as a marketing guy would tell you
don't use that but that's the vibe we'll
figure out what it is all right so
now we understand which academy uh this is
gonna fall under for people who don't know
uh i explain it it's one big circus
with eighteen circuses underneath it
you're one of the eighteen circuses who
gets to play in this and i'm the
ringleader
You're the ringleader of that.
You're the PT Barnum of the land.
I like it.
Circus in the circus of CSM,
right down the street from Disney World,
which is another circus with circuses in
it.
It's just all circuses all the way down.
I love it.
So I'm going to put you back in
the green room.
Thank you.
We're going to bring you back at the
end.
But now it's time to,
we're going to tease.
We're going to give the movie trailer
version of this.
So Susan, we'll bring you right back.
And let's bring in Lori.
Lori, welcome to the podcast here.
How are you doing?
Thank you for having us.
Let's get the nuts and bolts here.
What's your superhero backstory?
Just give me where in the profession you
practice.
Give us the back of the baseball card,
the demographic.
i need to be wearing my cape for
that but my superhero backstory is that
i'm not at all a superhero i started
mpt many years ago i'm not going to
divulge that but i actually was more
interested in leadership i always saw
patients but i was much more interested in
building a team and leadership
That's actually how I got involved with it
was used to be HPA health policy and
administration.
And, you know,
I belonged at the time to acute care
and orthopedics and I was working in both
things,
but they didn't answer my questions.
So this section at the time was,
was more, you know,
it gave me more than the other sections,
the other that became academies that
talked about the body or the facility you
worked or the age of your patients.
You know,
I wanted to know how to deal with
issues that were day to day from a
leadership standpoint, you know.
performance improvement issues and
employee engagement and all of that.
And so that's how I found HPA and
we've evolved.
Then we became the catalyst, which is,
by the way, one of my favorite words.
I'm in a doctoral program right now,
and they asked about my teaching metaphor,
and I said catalyst.
That was the first thing that came to
my mind.
So I really like that.
So I love your analogy of junk drawer,
but I spend most of my time telling
my husband where things are,
and one of the things I have to
do is tell him where they are in
the junk drawer.
So I would prefer something like
incubator,
somewhere where we're incubating ideas and
all of that.
And we've done that in terms of many
people come to us
to grow themselves like PT Proud,
like Beyond Clinical and all that.
And then they go on to do amazing
things.
And then I actually got laid off and
ended up going from place to place,
all in leadership,
totally outside the realm of PT.
The last thing I did was I ran
an accountable care organization.
That was very interesting.
And I don't know why more PTs aren't
involved in running health care
organizations.
And I like the fact that you went
outside to hopefully bring some of that
information back inside.
So that's a snapshot.
We can't tell everybody's complete story.
But that we understand sort of a little
bit about who you are.
Now, what are we getting to?
What do you get to stand on stage?
Give us sort of the movie trailer version
or, you know,
this is the time to tease.
This is the teaser.
Lori, what do you got for us?
Well,
I love listening to people's stories.
And that's, I think,
what I liked and why I continued having
a little hand in patient care.
is I love to hear people's stories.
And one of the things I think is
sometimes what I would hear is the
subjective is what they tell you and the
objective is what you find.
I don't see it that way at all.
I think that patients have very objective
things to tell us about their lived
experiences.
And those things have changed my life.
They've stuck with me, as you've said.
So I'm sharing some stories,
starting with stories of people that I
interviewed for my MPH,
particularly a Navajo woman and her
feelings about her diabetes,
and then the people I interviewed for my
qualitative experience.
interviewing that I did,
and then just also relating it to how
we tell stories as leaders.
There's a lot of leadership conferences
and trainings where we present leaders as
that superhero when we know they're not
superheroes at all and we want to know
more about them.
And what are we doing as leaders?
What kind of story are we sharing?
And I guess what I like about all
of that is, you know, we're scientists,
so we're very based on the facts.
But facts and truth are oftentimes
repurposed for the benefit of the people
who hold the power.
And so I like the stories of people
that we have maybe not heard in the
history books and things like that.
and what we maybe haven't heard from
leaders, kind of their backstories.
So it's a very brief, you know,
it's brief.
I'm going to try not to talk too
long,
but those are the things that I want
to share my experiences and how they
changed my life.
Perfect.
Excellent.
Who's the right person to be in the
room for your talk?
I'm going to ask this to all six
guests that I talked to today.
Who's the right, who were,
who were you hoping was in the audience?
That actually not just people who are the
big L leaders,
but the I actually think anybody because I
think the way we interact with patients,
if you're a therapist who has a small
practice or you're on staff in some place.
healthcare organization,
I think that you have the opportunity to
really listen to lived experiences and
guide your practice that way.
So I wouldn't say there's anyone,
I hope there's no one that this wouldn't
be useful for.
But I do think it may be interesting
to leaders,
people who have been out for a while,
who maybe have listened to a
Hopefully there will be leaders in the
room for that.
Um, but I think anyone,
I really think anyone would be interested.
I would hope they'd be interested.
The last thing I'm going to say is
we have,
we spend a lot of time with patients.
I mean,
we all know what it's like to be
a primary care physician and you just get
like five seconds.
We still spend a lot of time with
people.
And so we really have a moment to
hear what's really going on in their lives
and it can affect.
how we,
it affected me when I heard the stories,
how I decided to guide my practice.
Perfect.
All right.
I'm going to put you back in the
green room and I'm going to bring in
our next guest, the next, uh, Ted style,
uh, speaker, Jennifer Green Wilson,
Jennifer, uh, welcome.
Congrats.
Can't wait.
Uh, just for context for everybody,
what's your superhero backstory sort of
paint a picture for us.
Okay.
So I actually am a Canadian trained
physiotherapist,
but I've practiced my
whole professional life in the United
States.
And, uh, my, uh,
probably biggest thing I would say that
I'm really proud of is I'm a
transformational leader and I had the
opportunity, the pleasure to actually, uh,
develop our initial, uh,
lamp leadership curriculum way back when.
And so I'm just so thrilled to be
back actively involved with this team of
superheroes.
So, uh,
I don't want to skip past a term
cause you brought something up that I've
heard before,
but I don't know if I'd be able
to define it.
I don't need, you know,
the Webster's dictionary.
How would you describe a transformational
leader?
What does that mean?
Why was that different than a leader?
So a transformational leader is someone
who is absolutely passionate about
change and innovation and how you can
transform is it's all hands on deck.
And so the leader,
the person who's inspiring the masses
facilitates the process in such a way that
people who are also leading the followers
are growing and developing,
developing at the same time that the
person who's facilitating and leading.
So everybody is growing and everybody is
changing and change happens.
It's really exciting to see.
They sound like a fun person to work
with or for or around.
That sounds like, I mean,
I'm listening to this going,
show me one of those.
I'll work with you.
Like that sounds like a thing to do.
Yeah.
So Jimmy,
I'll tell you a small story that I
had the chance to
experience, transformational leadership.
And I actually learned about
transformational leadership from physical
therapy students.
And when I changed how I facilitated their
learning experience,
they became more fully engaged and most
dreaded.
So I taught the business of physical
therapy class.
So the most dreaded class became their
most exciting class.
How'd you do that?
Well,
that is another talk that we can have.
I always even want more.
We call that a front tease in radio.
I'll give you a little kudos being
involved with LAMP.
I've been in this profession for ten years
since I graduated,
obviously three years before that.
I don't think I've ever heard anybody not
speak highly of LAMP.
Every time it gets brought up in a
happy hour or on a stage,
people are always selling LAMP,
and they're not even –
not leader they're not selling it they're
like i went through this you should do
this like they're really just telling
people to come along with them so kudos
yeah and so i think it's really important
to honor our past honor our present and
honor our future because we've had so many
people over so many years decades that
have contributed to this space in this
conversation and so i think you know we've
been able to make some of these things
come alive
and really powerful because of the
foundation that we've had.
And so, you know, I just,
I think we need to acknowledge everybody
who's being part of this and now Academy.
All right.
So give us a little front tease.
What are we taught?
What do you get to talk about this
year at CSM when we go to the
left coast?
So, um, I'm going to talk about,
it's all about passion and,
That's what leadership is to me at this
point.
And I also want to thank the team
that this is going to be my first
TED style talk that I've given,
although I've been involved in LAMP
leadership for almost two decades.
So I'm really, really,
really thrilled to be part of the team.
And so I have a few things,
maybe three things that I'd like to share.
So we all have those tap on the
shoulder moments when doors and windows
open.
And we don't know why they're there.
And we don't know why we're really being
tapped on the shoulder.
But if we pay attention and listen to
those and go through the doors or climb
through the windows,
our journeys and our paths can take us
in ways,
in directions that we never thought that
we could or should.
And so part of that experience,
especially with discovering sort of this
personal leadership, self-leadership,
So it really, the messages,
all of us in physical therapy can display
our leadership and we can lead wherever we
are at any moment in time.
And we need that.
There's such a call for that in healthcare
at this point.
And what I discovered was having the
opportunity to reframe leadership as
personal leadership, self-leadership,
meaning all of us can do that,
be that.
That's where I found my passion.
And so I've spent, as I mentioned,
almost two decades pounding the pavement,
trying to really build the passion in
others for this idea and this concept.
And change requires leadership.
So going back to transformational
leadership,
if we spark leadership at all levels,
then we can be more influential in
facilitating that change.
And so passion,
the last thing I will say is passion
is an emotion and emotional intelligence
is a big part of leadership.
And so it was so great to be
able to really hone in on our passion
and our emotions.
And that's the fuel that inspires us to
lead that change.
Drop the mic, walk off stage, right?
I'll give you the last thing I'm asking
each guest.
Who are the types of people that you
hope are in the audience?
And it could be a demographic answer,
a psychographic.
Who are you hoping, right?
Because a lot of these talks,
I always say, get your flowers,
get on stage.
You'll stand there above your colleagues
for your fifteen minutes of fame.
I don't know anybody who does that without
thinking,
I hope someone steals these ideas or these
motions and goes and does things.
Who do you hope is in the audience
while you're talking?
Absolutely everyone,
and that includes our students.
I know we have thousands of students that
come to CSM,
and we absolutely want to make sure that
students feel welcome and they're included
because they're just beginning.
their leadership journeys,
and we absolutely need them in order to
push our profession even further.
Excellent.
All right, Jennifer,
go back to the green room.
We'll talk to you in just a little
bit.
We bring on no stranger to the show
back.
I don't know,
half a dozen times on the program.
Sean Bagney.
Sean, welcome back, man.
Thank you.
Are you talking to me yet?
No,
because you always have something good to
say.
But I'm going to ask you just reframe
for the audience what you get to do
in this pretty cool profession of ours,
just like your superhero.
Yeah, there is no superhero.
But what I get to do is I
get to help found a company called
Rehabilitation Performance Institute.
We have fifteen outpatient physical
therapy clinics now in the Midwest,
Indiana, Kentucky and Illinois.
And we're founded on the fact that health
care sucks and physical therapy can be the
change.
And so that's been my journey.
And my journey has been don't accept
status quo and don't accept what other
people tell you and find your way.
And that's what I want to talk about
during my TED talk.
Is that your talk?
I mean, you've been physically, you know,
healthcare sucks and we can fix it.
Hopefully it's healthcare sucks and this
is what we can do about it, right?
What are we looking at?
Yeah, well,
it's actually more about the personal
aspect of what my journey has been.
Like how I've had to evolve from being
a...
someone that enjoyed just taking on every
aspect of patient care and excited at that
to really like how we make change on
a grander stage by no longer doing that
one-on-one,
but multiplication and coaching and how
much harder of a journey that is,
but how much more rewarding it is when
we're able to multiply our effect.
Love that.
Uh, who,
since you went so quick through these two
questions,
I want to give you a little extra
time, right?
Who do you hope the audience and what
do you hope they do?
Like what would,
let me ask you this different way.
Who do you hope is in the audience
and what would success look like to you
a year, three,
five from now hearing back from those
people who are in the audience?
Yeah.
So who I want in the audience are
PTAs and VTAs that are passionate about
like
making a change in what we do as
a profession,
but might not be comfortable in taking on
that responsibility themselves.
As we start doing that,
that's how we become better.
We have such a connection with our
patients and our ability to make them
better.
And we do a really crappy job of
taking the accolades for that.
I want people to understand, like,
We can change lives.
We can be the musculoskeletal experts in
the communities and we can take on that
responsibility, but it's a responsibility.
So we have to do that.
And part of that is being true to
ourselves and,
and making sure that we are expanding
that.
And so the more PTs and PTAs that
are willing to take on that risk of
like being audacious in their career.
And it doesn't mean you have to be
an owner.
It means you're willing to own your
career, people that will take that on.
Success for me is seeing more of those
three to five years,
people who are willing to fight insurance
companies,
people who are willing to not accept that
I need to see seventy four patients in
a day because, you know,
we need to do two hundred percent
productivity.
Sure.
But caring for what you do and doing
what you're passionate about.
were really close because you know this
csm is going to be next to disneyland
in california and you said with great
responsibility and i was ready for like
you drop a spider-man line right with
great power comes with great
responsibility and i was waiting for that
to come up you know um that's a
great great thing and i will drop this
one little thing there will be a quote
in mine from uh when i think the
best writers all time lynn manuel
Miranda.
And so you'll just have to hear that.
All right.
Back to the green room.
We'll bring you back for your parting shot
in just a little bit.
John Corcoran.
John, welcome to the podcast.
Thanks, Jimmy.
Let's set the stage.
How do you describe if someone were to
say, hey, you know,
where where are you from?
Not geographically necessarily,
but from this profession.
What's your what's your back of the
baseball card look like?
Yeah, I started.
Excuse me.
I started as a musician before I became
a P.T.,
you play i played drums mostly and i
uh when i was on stage as drums
but i wrote songs guitar and i still
do it as a hobby heck yeah i
just couldn't make it as a living but
it was such a great um time in
my life so i still do it as
a hobby excellent my plan b uh pt
and and you know it turned out to
be an amazing plan b i'm now gone
through every profession
every job in PT,
and now I'm the director of rehab at
NYU Rusk Rehabilitation.
So it's been a long journey from a
homeless musician to now the director of a
large academic program,
which was really a fun journey.
And I think in a lot of the
TED Talks, I talked about that.
I've done them literally ten years.
I know it's a ten-year mark.
And I've done it ten times,
and one of the talks I gave was,
you know,
some of the things as a musician that
I see in PT.
You know,
you wouldn't think there's a lot of
overlap there,
but definitely some things I learned from
different careers that do carry over.
Yeah.
Oh, you're just down the Hudson from me,
and I'm up near West Point.
So what's a lesson, what's a,
an approach because you are a musician,
whether you're doing that for a living,
you can't, you know,
you can take the guy out of the
club or off the stage,
but you can't change that mentality.
So what are,
what is a lesson or a skillset or
a lens that you look at the world,
no matter where you are from that
background?
You know, I,
a lot of it to me, you know,
everyone talks about active listening.
And I think one of the reasons I've
been successful in leadership is literally
learning and knowing before I got into the
profession how to listen.
Not just the music, but, you know,
listen to different parts of instruments,
different arrangements.
And I think, you know,
when you connect with a patient,
they could tell if you're listening.
when you connect with your colleagues they
can tell if you're really listening or
you're off somewhere else and having that
focus to really i think too to get
really professional and an expert in an
instrument you really got to learn to
focus and a lot of people have trouble
with that i i don't that's one i
mean i have other other challenges like we
all do but i can focus i can
listen and patients and staff and my own
staff i really feel they appreciate that
Yeah.
Why are these soft skills so damn hard?
It's because they're skills.
And if you don't work on them,
they atrophy or you don't develop them
ever.
And if you do, magically, they get better.
And a lot of things get simpler,
not easier,
simpler if communication is a skill or
it's not a barrier.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
All right.
So what are you talking about this year?
You're no stranger to this style of talk.
What's the preview?
The preview is the title of the talk
is Survival, Life, and Leadership,
which is this dramatic title,
but it's really three parts.
So survival,
I talk about when I was a brand
new PT,
I was working during September
And that was a very catastrophic time in
our country and working in a clinic where
we saw some survivors, a few survivors.
Then also survivorship in terms of
Hurricane Sandy,
which came to the same medical center,
working through that.
That's a different style of leadership,
working during catastrophic times.
The second part of the talk has to
do with life lessons.
And working in an academic medical center,
I've been privileged to work with some
really, really interesting patients.
Like, for example,
twice I had separated conjoined twins that
I work with.
And what I learned,
they both survived the surgery.
And what I learned from them and their
journey
I talk a little bit about that.
And then the last part, leadership.
I've had many great mentors over the
years,
and some of the lessons that they've
provided me have really transformed me
both at work but outside,
also my personal life.
So I bring in a few anecdotes from
that.
Perfect.
All right.
And you've heard me ask the other guests
too,
who do you hope is in the audience?
But really,
I think I got better at asking the
question, the more I asked, which is like,
you know, who do you hope is there,
but also like,
what do you hope you hear about a
year, three, five years later?
You know,
I would love to have a lot of
students in there.
And we tend to do at CSM,
you know, coming from a music background,
I'm not really proud of this,
but I almost, you know,
college wasn't really something I was
going to do.
And I I'm glad I did.
having students there and saying, listen,
if I can do this, you can,
you know,
if you're interested in this and you want
to get into leadership,
here's a guy who is, you know,
driving around the country in a van with
a band, you know, and now, um,
you know,
if you really want to get the leadership,
I'm not, you know,
that normal trajectory of it,
but you can do it.
And I think I can help students.
who do have an interest in leadership from
maybe a non-traditional pathway into it.
I'd love to see that and talk to
people like that.
There's a lot more people than you think
coming to this profession
non-traditionally.
I know we all, I mean, look,
John and I, we're wearing the ties, man.
We look all straight laced,
but this guy's over here banging on the
drums like in a former life, right?
I was pushing play and talking into a
microphone and you can learn a lot from
those things.
This is the different things that you
didn't know could be valuable.
All right, John,
I'm gonna put you back in the green
room.
We'll bring you back for your parting
shot.
No stranger to the show.
Kristen Walls, there she is.
Pivoting to the cell phone there, I see.
Yeah, we had a little connection problem.
Hi, Jimmy.
I can't hear anything right now.
Can't hear anything right now?
All right.
Well,
Kristen comes to us because she's taught
and led LAMP.
I'll put you back in the green room,
bring back Susan.
Susan, this is called pivoting in LAMP.
All right.
What's Kristen's background?
Do you know it?
What do you know about Kristen's
background?
Oh, my gosh.
Kristen is absolutely amazing.
She is a physical therapist,
worked with the OSU athletes.
And I'm not going to say the word
the in front of it, you know,
because in the Big Ten around here,
we say go Hoosiers and Boiler Up.
Yeah.
Congratulations, by the way.
I know.
Right.
But I'm more of a Boilermaker.
All right.
So what do we want to talk about
in terms of Kristen's talk?
So Kristen, you know,
I don't know what Kristen's talk is.
I know Kristen has made several career
moves from working with athletes to
working in the clinic to running a clinic.
She built an amazing performance center.
She decided to pivot because she has two
young, amazing, gorgeous girls.
And so she pivoted to a whole different
area of health care to be at home.
And she does utilization review for
insurance companies.
which if someone's gonna review my chart
and say how many visits I get,
I want it to be Kristen.
Oh, maybe she's coming back.
Can you hear us now, Kristen?
I can hear you.
Could you hear everything I said?
Was that pretty spot on?
All right,
I think we're a little bit delayed,
but that's okay.
Kristen,
just give people the back of the baseball
card, frame them up.
Who do you get to be?
Who are you in this profession?
I can't hear you.
right well story of my life me talking
and people not listening or not being able
to hear me that's just really what it
looks like all right let's bring all the
guests back on and we'll go to green
room this is called the pivot in uh
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See how we just slipped the live reading
in there as we're pivoting?
Kristen, if you can hear us,
give us a thumbs up.
If not, we'll pivot to everybody else.
Lori, let's go to your parting shot.
What's the last thing you'd want the
audience to leave thinking about?
I can't.
Yay!
You know,
I use a few quotes and one is
psychologist Vivian Brewer.
And she said that when people talk,
the world gets constructed.
And that's what we do.
We talk with our patients,
we talk with our team,
we talk with other leaders.
And I want everybody,
students and people who work in clinical
practice and leaders at different
positions,
just to understand they have a huge
opportunity
to with others construct the world that
they want to see together.
Love that.
Good parting shot.
Jennifer,
we'll go parting shot next with you.
What do you want to leave with the
audience?
So I just want you to know that
feeling passionate is fun.
And I really want to help everybody or
to ask them what their passion is,
what they're passionate about.
and really feel that and let that guide
you in your professional leadership
journey.
Love it.
Sean, you've done this before.
No stranger to the parting shot.
What do you want to leave with you?
What's your mic drop moment?
This is an opportunity for people to hear
the stories of so many people that have
affected the profession of physical
therapy.
And it's not an instantaneous moment
you're looking at.
This is generational.
And we need people to take up the
next generation and leave this profession
where it needs to go.
That with the voice and the beard sounds
very serious.
Good.
All right, John,
all the way from New York City,
what's your parting shot today?
Parting shot is these skills can be
learned.
A lot of people feel leadership is
something people have or you don't.
But guess what?
You can learn it and you should come,
get involved with LAMP, come to the talk.
We're going to teach and we're also
available to help you.
Many students come out unprepared for
leadership until recently.
Jennifer's course,
most students are scared of this,
but we can help you and you can
learn it.
All right, Kristen,
do we have the audio back together?
How's that looking?
I think so.
Can you hear me?
A little bit, you're a little delayed.
Kristen,
give people context real quick about who
you are in the profession.
Okay.
I'm Kristen Walls.
My background is I'm a residency trained
sports PT,
worked in collegiate athletics and
outpatient ortho,
and have now found my way into kind
of non-clinical work on the utilization
side.
Yeah.
And then I'm active in my state chapter
in Ohio.
And within the Academy of Leadership and
Innovation with LAMP leadership,
I'm also the education chair for the
Academy.
All right.
What are you jumping on stage?
What's the story?
Here's your chance to sort of tease
forward and put butts in seats coming up.
And I'll give the details about when the
session is all that.
Focus on the story.
Sure.
Well,
first I want to say congratulations on
being the recipient of our LAMP Lighter
Award for twenty twenty five, Jimmy.
Big deal.
Appreciate it.
Yes.
But my story,
the one I gave in Boston was called
Don't Shrink.
So it was about kind of finding your
purpose and moving towards
self-leadership.
And this is also a self-leadership story
called You Matter Too.
And it's kind of my exploration and
finding myself after being
lost in the role of being a physical
therapist and forgetting myself along the
way so that that self-abandonment that
many of us feel um as providers and
parents and the sandwich generation
everything in between it's you know don't
forget yourself along the way and care for
yourself love it all right well you're no
stranger to the show you know how we
wrap up what's the parting shot you'd want
to leave with the audience
Yeah.
So every audience,
I think anyone who's maybe feeling that
should be coming to the TED Talks and
maybe hearing this ten minute story just
for inspiration and connection.
But my big, you know,
parting shot would be and I think it's
kind of consistent for every podcast I've
done with you is provide your wellness and
professional sustainability has to be in
the forefront and the leaders get to help
drive that and be a part of that.
So I would say let's make this a
focus.
Let's continue to keep our workforce
together and healthy.
Sounds great.
Perfect.
All right.
No pressure, Susan,
but you get to back clean up here
with a parting shot.
What do you want to leave with the
audience as we wrap up?
I would say this talk is amazing for
anybody who's had any sort of
uncomfortable feeling in their profession
as a PT, right?
all leave i've talked about the big l
and the little l a lot of our
ted style talks come from a place of
of getting comfortable with the
uncomfortable right of a time when you've
had to grow a time of when you've
had to figure something out and again when
i went to my first one i got
there and i thought oh my gosh i'm
not the only one that went through
something like that oh they went through
that too and that's how they got through
it um it's it's just
It's an amazing way to connect with others
who have gone through something similar.
You may not connect with every single
talk,
but I guarantee if you are a physical
therapist in any sort of practice or work,
somebody is going to have something on
that stage that you're going to connect
with and feel better because of it.
Yeah.
And the funny part is just how it
happens.
The people who are in the audience in
a couple of years,
You're going to be telling one of those
stories on stage.
It's in the show notes,
but I will say it here.
The LAMP leadership style,
TED style talks,
shared lessons on leading within and
leading others.
Thursday, February twelfth.
That's two o'clock p.m.
to three thirty.
Check your APTA app and check your
programs at home.
Hey, thanks for doing this.
Congrats on a decade.
Getting people together, you know,
once is difficult.
Never mind ten times in a row.
So thanks so much for sharing here.
And we'll see you guys in L.A.
Thanks, Jimmy.
See, Keith?
We read the script.
Happy now?