Rebecca Griffith, the EDDPT is live.
Happy Monday morning to you.
How are you doing?
Good morning.
I'm okay.
The state of New York
Department of Public Works
or whoever's in charge of
like putting the words on
the electronic road signs on highways.
Yeah.
They understood the
assignment yesterday
because I was driving on
the interstate and it said, slow down,
you must arrive safely, you will.
which is a gigantic nod
yesterday being made the
fourth with being a play on
words of may the fourth be with you,
which is of course a nod to star Wars.
May the force be with you.
So I'm driving for ninety
minutes yesterday and I
think we have to turn this
into some sort of episode
or some sort of lessons to
learn because star Wars is
chalk on chock full of
philosophy and lessons and
you've only fallen asleep
during one of the movies and
Yeah, I'm telling you,
my role here is skeptic.
You got the wrong Griffith, right?
Every Griffith in this house
is a huge Star Wars fan except for me.
So I did prepare.
I talked to my resources.
I talked to my thirteen and
fifteen year old and I'm ready to go.
Like, I get it.
I think we're talking to the
right Griffith because I'm
going to turn you over away
from the dark side towards the light.
Well,
I have read probably eight million
Star Wars kids books to my kids.
So like I do have some
concept of what's going on.
But anytime somebody says
May the Fourth be with you,
I always want to say and also with you,
because like I was raised Methodist.
So I just now that I've said that,
I feel complete and like we can move on.
Yeah, we're fine.
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So you do know who the tiny
green person is.
Yes.
And I'm not talking about
the tinier green person.
I'm talking about the
original green person being Yoda.
The OG and not Grogu,
who is what everybody
refers to as Baby Yoda.
But Yoda once said, do or do not,
there is no try.
I know that one.
You know that one.
Another rogue smuggler
didn't care what the odds were.
And somewhere in between...
Jedi, rebels, and even a Sith,
even the bad guys or two,
leave us with lessons that,
believe it or not, can shape how we lead,
grow,
and navigate our real lives in
twenty twenty five.
I have actually on several
forms when it asks what your religion is,
I have listed Jedi as my
religion because I was just
too frustrated with the
question and just decided to be fun.
But actually, that is on the U.S.
census.
You can list Jedi as a
religion in the United States.
Did you know that?
I did not know that.
You can.
All right,
so I decided to pull out seven
Star Wars quotes with
real-life lessons attached today.
So the first one probably is
the most famous.
I just alluded to it.
It comes from The Empire Strikes Back.
Yoda is the ultimate guide,
the ultimate teacher.
He teaches Luke,
who's sort of the star of
most of the episodes in the
original trilogy.
He's teaching Luke about
commitment on Dagobah.
All right, so Luke crashes his X-wing,
looking for this guide,
comes across this little green man,
assumes,
I don't want to spoiler alert for you,
he assumes there's no way
this little green man could
be a wise and powerful Jedi,
but turns out he actually is.
So the quote is, do or do not,
there is no try.
You said you've heard this one,
this one's famous.
What does this one mean to you?
There are no wrong answers
in philosophy in Star Wars.
Well,
so what I like about this quote and
how I would apply it,
and you can tell me if I'm wrong,
is that you can't just like
wait for something to
happen or talk about trying,
like you have to just do the thing.
And so there are days where I'm like,
I don't think I can do this.
This doesn't feel like,
like I was giving a
presentation this last week.
with a bunch of vestibular specialists.
And I'm like,
I'm not a vestibular specialist.
I can't do this, but I'm gonna try.
And then I was like, no,
I'm gonna do this.
Like I can actually do this.
And there's a voice that I
can provide here in this space.
So I think like just
committing to it and going forward.
I love it.
Yes.
Agree.
Again, no wrong answers.
Practical takeaway.
I think this is in twenty
twenty five about going all in.
Half effort is an effort.
You don't get to round up
effort to a completed task.
So if you replace I'll try
with I will set clear goals, make a plan,
take action.
You know,
Richard Branson didn't try to
launch Virgin Atlantic or
any of his companies.
He just was like,
I'm brash enough to do it.
And you have to you sort of
have to go all in.
a little bit you know sort
of rounds down do or do not
is a mindset shift and that
shift fuels real progress a
lot of people are thinking
about they're in the
planning stages they're in
that run-up you ever like
jump into a pool or
something and you do those
stutter steps to sort of
time yeah you can take off
from the edge I feel like I
understand this to be true
Because I've been guilty of this,
of saying like, I think, I will,
eventually I'll put it on my plate.
If you're not going to do it,
don't talk about it.
Do or do not, there is no try.
So I think we start off with
a pretty good quote there
from the little green guy, Yoda.
I think it's good for our patients too.
Like I need you all in on
your recovery and we'll be
all in on it together.
But then my question for you
is who's your PT Yoda?
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Who's my PT Yoda personally?
If you were going to say a
physical therapist in your
life was your PT Yoda, who would it be?
Oh, Skye Donovan.
She was my original Yoda from PT school.
And that's the cool thing, right?
You don't have to know.
I know Skye Donovan in real life.
I don't want to brag,
but I know her in real life.
But you don't have to.
It could be sort of a disembodied voice.
People use the Bible or the
Koran or any religious
books as those things, right?
Wasn't Jesus the original Yoda?
Had a bunch of disciples or whatever.
So I think you can look at
this as anything.
It could be a real person.
or they could be a person of religion,
or they could be a movie.
We're going through Star Wars, right?
We're pretending these people were real.
But I think the lessons that
they were teaching is real.
What about you?
Oh, about Lisa Van Hoose.
I mean.
There you go.
So why?
What about Lisa?
Because everything she says
that comes out of her mouth is a lesson,
right?
And even if it's not
intended to be that way,
I take it that way.
And I always think more
deeply and leave better than I came.
Even when I think I'm really
right about something, she's like, well,
she always asks the right question,
I guess.
Yeah, no, I've said this before.
Sky Donovan was the worst
professor I ever had
because I would ask her,
can you tell me the answer
to this question?
And she'd be like, let's talk it through.
And I'm like, no, I just want the answer.
And she was smart enough to
understand by giving me the answer,
it would be stopping my growth.
Instead, of course,
good teachers would make you think,
or why did you think that
answer was wrong?
Or what was your thought process?
Or I could see that.
Or how do you think it now?
Yeah.
Right.
It's like it's such a trick.
It's such a Jedi mind trick
of what really good.
That's where that's where it comes from.
Right.
Is like getting you to think
because the purpose of
really good teaching or
leading is like that person
is not going to be there in
every context.
So maybe them teaching you how to think,
not what to think.
I think that's probably a lesson, too,
is if someone's trying to
tell you what to think,
probably not a good
probably not a good mentor.
Yeah, I think you're probably right.
That's that's a guru, right?
Yeah, okay.
Trying to think.
We'll get to it,
but are there gurus in Star Wars?
We'll get to it.
All right,
quote number two and lesson number two,
a day after May the Fourth Be With You.
How about this one?
Are you familiar with Qui-Gon Jinn?
No.
Qui-Gon Jinn was played by Liam Neeson.
So this quote is,
your focus determines your reality,
Qui-Gon Jinn.
This comes from The Phantom Menace.
Qui-Gon tells Anakin-
Spoiler alert, Anakin becomes Darth Vader.
So it's baby Darth Vader.
Qui-Gon tells Anakin how
powerful focus really is.
So a real life application
is your focus determines your reality.
In a world of noise, listen,
we're doing a live stream right now.
You're watching it on a
social platform while
you're listening to audio books.
You're half doing your job
or you're driving when
you're listening to this is
released on a podcast.
In a world full of noise,
Your focus is your most valuable currency.
That's the twenty twenty five application.
So you you haven't watched Phantom Menace,
right?
What was the one Star Wars
movie that you did watch?
The one with the girl in it
and Luke Skywalker.
Oh, like Carrie Fisher?
No, no, no, like the new girl.
Oh, Rey.
So one of you got it.
So she's badass.
Yeah, right, right.
My dog has that as one of
her middle names because of
that character.
Well,
you obviously embrace the force in
the Griffith household.
So your focus determines your reality.
Even without listening to
Qui-Gon Jinn or watching
The Phantom Menace,
how would you take this?
Or what is your takeaway of
your focus determines your reality?
I think mindset matters.
And so I talked to my kids
about that a lot.
Like your mindset around
this matters and how you like.
So one example,
my son won the mile high league champion.
for the sixteen hundred,
the thirty three hundred,
the eight hundred,
the four by eight hundred
this last weekend.
And last year when he was
really getting into varsity
track and cross country,
I was talking to him about
his mindset right before he
raced because he'd be like,
I'm not going to be able to do this.
I can't do this.
Maybe if I get like this place,
then maybe I'll be able to keep going.
And I was like, no,
like we've got to like
replace those thoughts with
our focus on you're prepared, you're fast,
you're ready to succeed,
like really focusing on
that performance mindset.
And I think this is part of that.
And the first time I tried
to do that with him, he was like,
this is ridiculous.
I was like,
I promise all the high level
athletes do this.
And we made up a mantra for
him to focus on until he
got through that race.
And that was the best race
he'd had to date.
And he qualified for state as a freshman,
was like ready to go.
He was like, it worked mom, like I did it.
And so now we do this
routinely and he's just crushing it.
He was league MVP and he's
just doing great.
And so we apply that in different ways,
whether it's like school tests,
like business, all of that.
Like, what is your mindset around this?
How can we shift that?
Love it.
Yeah,
it's funny that you bring up athletes
because there's a very
famous athlete who has used
your focus to determine your reality.
Michael Phelps was huge.
I mean,
it's probably the first time I ever
heard of visualizations on that level.
Michael Phelps, Olympic swimmer, champion,
multiple record holder of all time,
used to stay laser focused.
In things like running and swimming,
when there isn't a ball to chase,
and I know this because I
am a runner and a swimmer,
mediocre at best at both if
you lose your focus in
these things it can get
real hard to continue
training I mean swimming is
the ultimate sport where
you go from point a to
point a and try to go it's
like how do you stay
motivated that way so you
have to visualize like how
these things are going to
go you know I think it was
a lesson somewhere I think
I heard on a podcast
michael phelps's coach
can't remember his name but
a famous swimming coach um
somehow like his goggles
came off at a practice race.
And he like, he was like, you keep going.
Because if that happens in
the final heat of the, you know,
a hundred butterfly,
we're going to do ask for a read.
There's no takes backsies.
So you visualize what would
happen in all those
situations or how you want this to go.
But if something goes sideways,
if you visualize it and practiced it,
you're better prepared for it.
So I think Qui-Gon's advice
here is pretty good.
And from the Phantom Menace.
Well,
I think also when you have that focus,
you do the work to go with it.
Correct.
It's not just manifesting, right?
It's like, I don't know,
people say giving feet to prayer.
Like that's kind of what this is.
Like your focus becomes your
reality because you're focused on it.
So you do the work that you
need to do to get there.
Yeah.
Okay.
So that's Qui-Gon.
That's number two.
Third quote from Star Wars.
How about this one?
Obi-Wan Kenobi says,
says, in my experience,
there's no such thing as luck.
He drops this to Han Solo in A New Hope.
Essentially, it's not about luck.
It's about preparation.
Real life application, take ownership.
Success usually comes from effort,
not chance.
Or put in the reps, prep hard,
and then you're ready when
opportunity strikes.
Yeah.
So having never heard this
one in my experience,
there's no such thing as luck.
How would you take this
lesson or how would you
teach this lesson to someone?
I feel like people say
things like that a lot.
Like that person's just so
lucky that they get to do that.
They're just so lucky that
they got chosen for that.
He's so lucky that he won
that race when in fact,
There's so much preparation
work that really goes on
behind the scenes.
There are advantages
different people have for sure.
And I think we can acknowledge that.
But for the most part,
I think luck also doesn't
really exist in my life.
If luck is coming around,
it's usually something like
I'm so lucky that I got the
last Diet Coke.
It's not like I'm so lucky
that I got that patient or
whatever the case may be,
because I agree there.
I don't think there is such
a thing as luck.
Yeah, I agree.
Do you know who Jimmy Carr is?
He's like a British comedian.
He's a European comedian.
Super funny.
I mean, if you like his humor, he's sharp.
Like he will mess with people.
I had never heard of him
until maybe a year ago when
I came across one of his
short form clips online.
And now I see him everywhere
because that's how the Internet works.
He's got a great quote on this.
Right.
So Obi-Wan says, in my experience,
there's no such thing as luck.
What you sort of made me
think of was Jimmy Carr's quote,
who's now massively famous.
He says,
everyone is jealous of what you've got.
No one is jealous of how you got it.
Everybody sees the podium and they go,
well, it was handed to him.
she just got it gift wrapped
for her and they weren't
there at seven o'clock in
the morning you know
swimming laps or putting in
the extra effort or going
the extra mile so yeah
everybody's jealous of what
you got no one's jealous of
how you got it so obi-wan
staying with the idea of
luck is that most overnight
success stories are built
on years of behind the
scenes work when I was in radio
I would ask this question
live because I really,
or I would say this statement, sorry,
not a question,
say this statement live
because I loved the honest
reaction of musicians who I
knew damn well were not
overnight successes.
But when someone's single breaks,
next thing you know,
everybody knows who they
are and they're new.
And their lucky break.
and so I love famously there
was this band called sick
puppies they had a couple
of really great songs I
loved a lot of their music
and I had them in studio so
like I had eye contact and
shimon moore super
charismatic lead singer um
and I I said something
along the lines of like
shim like guys are just an
overnight success like one
day you're just hanging out
and the next day you're
success and he looks and
he's about to he's giving
me that reaction like he
wants to be like no you
don't understand it's not
and I and he sees the look
on my face which is like
I want you to tell everybody
what you're feeling now.
Of course it wasn't an overnight success.
And of course it wasn't luck.
There was opportunity,
but you were prepared for
it because of this ten
thousand things that you
did before that to put
yourself in that position.
Absolutely.
This next one,
we're going to go back to the OG.
We're going to go back to Yoda.
Yoda warns a young Anakin in
the Phantom Menace that
fear breeds bad decisions.
It doesn't just need to mean
about battle or laser
blasters or lightsabers or starships.
Here's the quote.
Fear is the path to the dark side.
I don't know.
If there was one line about
good versus evil in all of
the Star Wars canon...
fear is the path to the dark
side and it doesn't need to
be mean the fear of death
or destruction it could be
scared to make a decision
right like we are scared a
lot in our lives doesn't
mean like petrified to
death but I feel like fear
is the path to the dark side was if you
If you don't shine a light on it,
that's when it's the dark side.
If you're fearing it,
that's when it sort of grows, right?
So fear is the path to the dark side,
Yoda.
I love the fact that you've
never seen ninety nine
percent of these quotes.
So when I spring this on you,
what comes to mind?
Fear is the path to the dark side.
fear avoidance behavior with
movement in physical therapy,
because all the patients
that come into the
emergency department who
are in like really acute pain,
they're really afraid to move.
And I think one of the best
things we can do as
physical therapists is
ameliorate that fear
upfront so that they don't
go down to that path of
avoiding movement and
staying in bed and like all
of those things.
So I think in this case,
you could directly apply
that to PT and say,
you know, fear of movement,
fear of doing the things
you need to do is probably
a path to delayed recovery.
So actually I think that's great.
I think that's helpful for a
lot of different things.
And one of,
I know I'm applying this to my kids a lot,
but that's what I'm thinking about.
When I talk to them about they're like,
I'm really scared to do this.
I'm really anxious about it.
I always tell them like
anxiety and fear really are
and excitement have like
the same physiologic
response in the body and
the brain really decides what
what it means.
It decides if you're happy
about it or if you're not.
So if you can kind of
reframe that again and go
back to that mindset piece,
I think that's helpful.
But I love that.
I think that's directly applicable to PT.
Yeah, in twenty twenty five,
fear of change, fear of failure,
fear of uncertainty.
All those things are going
to be barriers to growth or progression.
Like those fears are going
to make you stop.
And I've said before,
I do this a lot when I'm
either working with an
organization or something.
I'll use the phrase like I
understand that you feel
like not making a decision now is safer.
But if you're crossing a
road and then all of a
sudden headlights come upon
you and you're like,
do I go forward or back?
And you're like, let's just stand still.
Indecision is a decision.
You've decided not to act out of,
and if it's out of fear and,
and fear also can be masked
a few different ways with
patients or in business or like anything,
sales consulting,
I need more time to think.
So you want time, but my question is like,
why?
Like what other information
do you need to make this
decision before you act?
Well, I'm afraid of making any decision.
Well, you are making a decision.
I'm gonna reframe that.
You have decided not to act now, right?
I will also add this because
this is practical advice
from my dad who was a
fireman um he asked me this
question once he loved to
ask me these questions we
were on long drives and
like and when you're ten
you're like I don't know
how to answer this dad and
now looking back I'm like
these were good questions
his question was what's the
worst thing to do in a
panic situation how would
you answer that what's the
worst thing to do in a
panic situation I don't
know I guess nothing maybe
his answer was or he said
panic yeah we're in a panic
situation so this is coming
from a guy who walked into
burning buildings like he
was he had a rational fear
of death and dying and fire
and smoke and you know
buildings collapsing and he
said the worst thing to do
in this panic situation is
panic the second worst
thing was nothing got it
because I'm afraid I'll
just I'll just stand here
and wait for something to
happen panic didn't seem like an option
Right,
because panicking is just wildly
doing something just to do something.
That's bad.
The opposite is nothing.
The answer is somewhere in the middle.
And we know that, always and never.
It's just stay away from this thing.
That's another quote.
I have to see if I don't have this.
Beware of the absolutes.
This isn't on the list,
but this is one of the things.
The Sith,
who are like the evil Jedi with
lightsabers, just to give you an update,
they deal in absolutes.
And people who follow the
Force never deal in absolutes.
So when you look at things
on test questions, like the NPTE,
if it's an always or a never,
I'm not going to say it's
always not that answer
because that's an absolute,
but I will say,
look really closely at that because,
because the Sith live in absolutes.
Well,
and physical therapists don't because
it depends.
Ah, look at that.
Are we the ultimate healthcare provider?
Do other, do other healthcare providers,
do they, it depends as much as we do,
or is that our thing?
I think it's our thing.
Like I,
I don't know.
I don't feel like I've ever
heard a physician say to me, it depends.
So they deal in absolutes.
I'm not saying anything.
I'm just laying out what
happens in Star Wars.
I didn't say anything.
All right.
Let's go to quote number five.
Quote number five from Star Wars.
Here's the context.
Obi-Wan tells this quote to Luke.
the return of a jedi truth
depends on perspective is
the context and here's the
here's the quote many of
the truths we cling to
depend greatly on our own
point of view and that is
from obi-wan I think the
real world application as
rebecca absorbs this for
the very first time in her
life and probably the five
hundredth for me um great
leaders embrace nuance and
others per other people's perspectives
so how can you apply this
you know a long time ago in
a galaxy far far away quote
I would say pause and ask
what's their lens empathy
leads to better decisions
is what obi-wan was getting
at and that's sort of what you see
When Obi-Wan, sorry, when Luke is, sorry,
Anakin is being trained,
he leads towards the dark
side because he starts to
go in more absolutes and
more this is the way it
should be because I think so.
So many truths we cling to
depend greatly on our own point of view.
You have this look on your
face that you are like
deeply thinking about this.
I was just like wholly
pulled immediately towards
United States politics.
I mean...
I don't even know where else
to go with that that's just
exactly yeah yeah I like
how you just leave that
there silence yeah I mean
you can take from that what
you want but I feel like
that's a lot of where we
are right now yeah
And it's a scary place to be, right?
Which is if we're not
listening to anybody else's
lens and we're just going on our own,
that feels, again,
going back to that quote,
only a Sith deals in absolutes.
It signifies your descent
into the dark side.
Like you're just making
people want to follow you.
So practical advice for many
of the truths we cling to
depend greatly on our own point of view.
The best innovation teams thrive.
on diverse point of viewpoints.
They are the best.
They work really well.
Like this is not a shock and
this is not a feeling.
This has been proven.
Truth is rarely absolute.
Yeah.
Right.
Understand others to lead
better as we get the lesson from Obi-Wan.
All right.
Quote six.
This will be the last quote,
but I have a bonus quote.
So we're just gonna go with seven.
I don't know why I said this was,
so this will be number seven.
This is from Rogue One.
And that's, so that's not like part,
it's in the Star Wars universe,
but it's not part of like the official,
it's like a side journey,
but an important one
because it's referenced as
a really pivotal moment.
And the quote is,
rebellions are built on hope.
This is from Rogue One.
Jyn Erso's rallying cry is
about belief when the odds look bad.
Real life applications for this.
Hope's fuel.
And when you don't have any,
it's real hard to go
anywhere and get anything done.
And when things get tough, your mindset,
I'm not even going to say matters most.
It might be all you have.
Like sometimes the only
thing you have is your mindset.
And that's really easy to
say when you don't have anything,
but it is important to remember.
So rebellions are built on hope.
I love that.
And I feel like that's kind
of where I'm trying to be
at with physical therapy, right?
Like I have so much hope for
the direction that our
profession could go.
I just think we need to make changes.
And I had another PT reach
out to me this last week and she said,
I heard you talking about
how you manipulate in the hospital,
you do manual therapy in the hospital,
you do dry needling,
you do all of these things.
And I see other people doing things like
postpartum care and I see PT
and ED and I just feel like
all I'm allowed to do is
get people out of bed and
into a chair and that's not
how I want to practice and
so she said I pushed back
and I said my practice is
my practice and I would
like to progress my
practice in this facility
and her managers were like
nope,
like that's not how we do things here.
That's not like what we do.
We're not doing that.
And she kept pushing back
and she brought more
evidence to them and things like that.
And so for me,
when I talk to people about
top of scope practice and
like progressing our
ability to innovate in the
future and like really
transform society as physical therapists,
we can't keep doing things
the way we always have done.
We're not going to survive
from a fiscal perspective,
but we're also not going to
survive from like a
utility perspective or a
transformation perspective
and so I love that I love
this quote we need a pt
rebellion and we're like in
it to win I love it I love
it I would say if managers
or people in your life
doesn't really matter like
this stuff is really
philosophical um and it
applies sort of anywhere
you can find places for if
someone tells you this is
only the way we do things
only a sith deals in
absolutes like do they also
say this is the way we've always done it
That's an absolute.
Because what they're also saying,
this is what we've always done it.
This is the way we will do it.
That is absolute, right?
I don't know if I want to
work with people or work
around people or have
people in my personal life
who deal in absolutes.
Every presentation I give,
I start with like a mindset conversation.
So we can go back to that
quote about mindset.
And I say,
I need you to imagine how things could be,
not how things are.
Because if you listen to this,
this conversation from the
perspective of this is the
way we have to do it.
And I can't do that.
I'm not allowed to do that.
Then we won't ever move forward.
But if you can listen to me
and this presentation from
the perspective of why can't we do that?
Why am I not doing that?
And how could I do that?
Then you're going to take so
much more away from this.
So rebellions are built on
hope is my number one so far.
Yeah.
All right, so this is a bonus.
This will be number seven.
And this comes from one of
my favorite characters,
which is Han Solo.
Han Solo says this,
and it sort of is like his rallying cry.
I've seen T-shirts.
I've seen bumper stickers,
the whole thing.
So Han says in The Empire Strikes Back,
mid-crisis, while he's ready-fire aiming,
this is maybe why I
gravitate towards Han Solo.
He's very much ready-fire aim.
His quote is, never tell me the odds.
So the real-life application is, like,
don't get paralyzed by analysis.
Paralysis by analysis.
Just don't get caught.
Bold action creates momentum.
Like, Han is typically in situations where,
like,
inaction will literally cause his or
others' death.
And he...
I think people mistake Han
Solo for being reckless
because he analyzes and reacts quickly,
where some people are more methodical.
But make no mistake about it.
Bold action is required.
Again,
go back to that question from my dad.
What's the worst thing to do
in a panic situation?
Panic.
Han might look like he's
panicking because he's
thinking quickly and looking around.
The second worst thing to do
in a panic situation is nothing.
Nothing.
So never tell me the odds.
It's also it fits Han Solo.
His other great quote.
Again,
I'm going to say spoiler alert to
you because if you haven't
seen Star Wars by now,
it's past the statute of limitations.
But he's like chasing after
Leia for like a long time.
And she finally says, I love you.
And his response is, I know.
Legend status right there being like,
I know.
But anyway, never tell me the odds.
What do you think about this one?
I like that too,
because that goes back to like,
this is the way we've always done it.
And this is the only way we can do it.
And here's the eight hundred
reasons that catalog
cataloged as to why I'm not
going to do or do not.
I'm not even going to try
because these are the odds.
And so I think that that
quote kind of goes full circle.
I'm not even going to try
because the odds are stacked against me.
That shows your mindset is really
not in a great place.
It's definitely like,
if you know all the odds
and it's an absolute and there's no hope,
why would you even bother?
So then we go back to our hope quote,
we're ready to,
we're ready to rock and roll.
So I love this.
And I think that's too, how I practice,
right?
Like what are the odds of
having physical therapists
in the emergency department?
Not great.
What are the odds that we could,
I don't know, probably not great,
but I'm going to keep trying.
I'm going to do it.
So I love this.
This is kind of fun.
Yeah, take the leap, trust your gut.
Listen, Han calculated risk,
but he didn't worship it
and he didn't live by it.
He didn't say, well,
the odds say we can't do it.
He's like, we don't have another choice.
So we're gonna make the best
decision moving forward and
we're gonna take some bold action.
The Wright brothers didn't
wait for guaranteed success.
They couldn't, there was no guarantee,
especially if you're on the
edge of something,
if you're on the bleeding edge,
if you're creating something.
This is why artists are
often looked at as crazy people, right?
There was that great ad,
from apple like this is this
this is for the crazy ones
the risk takers the people
who leave like history
never mentions the people
who played it safe like it
just doesn't history writes
the stories about people
who broke the rules and
broke the mold again it
They were breaking the mold
because they were in a
situation where breaking
the mold was the best option.
Maybe not the only option.
They could have played it safe,
but it was a great option.
So sometimes ignoring the
odds is exactly what gets you through.
I was told by someone who
was in leadership that I
should not start a podcast
while I was a PT student.
It would distract me.
The odds were I was not going to succeed.
I...
redefine my odds.
My success were have fun and
learn something with every episode.
Haven't missed yet.
And we're, I don't know.
I stopped counting because
I'm not good at math.
Fifteen hundred plus episodes in.
I determined success.
So my odds were actually
super high from that
person's point of view.
Her lens was you're going to
be famous or make lots of money.
And I'm like that.
Those aren't my that's not
my definition of success.
It was have fun, learn stuff.
Well,
and I think we can't all be Han solos,
right?
Like,
I think we need people that balance
us out because we need
people that don't just leap.
We need the people that are like,
get the vision and the plan.
Like you said, you need some people
to do the podcast,
help you get that podcast
all the way out there.
You might be the voice,
but you need somebody behind you.
So we can't all be Han Solos,
but I think we need Han Solos.
I just had a great idea for
maybe our next talk, right?
So we've just been talking about a book,
right?
Last episode,
which was Six Types of Working Genius.
And it listed, just as a review,
it listed the six types of
tasks or things that we do.
There's only six according
to this paradigm, this lens, right?
Pay attention to other people's lenses.
And it says that out of
those six types of work,
we are energized by two,
we have energy drained from us by two,
and then two are sort of
mayonnaise in the middle.
Like, yeah, they're fine,
but they're not great,
but they're not awful.
So here's an idea,
a pitch for our next episode,
the next time we get together.
I will lay out to you the caricatures,
because you haven't watched Star Wars.
This is great.
You have a zero fresh lens.
You have no preconceived ideas.
I will lay out to you the
team in Star Wars,
and then I'll have AI sort
of like tell us who those
people are in terms of the
lens of the six types of working genius.
Because right,
if we had a team full of Han solos,
That ain't going to work.
Like you do need R two D two
and you need a C three PO
and you need these people.
And that's why, I mean, again,
I'm a date myself, but like the a team,
which was the great
eighties sitcom had these
four dudes who had varied skills and
you look at oceans,
like we could go on and on
about how these people,
how their skills compliment each other.
But if you had, you know,
four BA Baracuses played by Mr. T in,
you know, in the A team,
that's a different, that's a different,
that's a different test,
a different outcome.
Yeah.
All right.
Parting shots for this episode.
What do you got?
Gosh, I guess I've got that.
Star Wars might be
okay yeah maybe I don't know
I still feel like there's a
lot there's a lot in here
to unpack yeah but that
maybe I'm just unpacking it
all in a way that suits my
current philosophy yeah we
all sort of do that right
we look through our own
lens that's why I like one
of the quotes which is
essentially like make sure
you look through other
people's lenses so I think rebellion
is a form of hope or rebellion, whatever,
bring it back up.
I don't know.
Rebellions are built on hope
is my take home.
Like let's,
let's have a hopeful rebellion together.
Yeah.
All right.
I'll quote my parting shot
would be of course,
never tell me the odds Han Solo.
Don't just watch star Wars.
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