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Rebecca Griffith is back on the show.

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Rebecca.

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Good morning.

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Always good to see you with

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your ring light now properly attached.

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You look great.

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We like books.

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For a while there,

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I wasn't reading as much.

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I think it's because I

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wasn't traveling as much.

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And then since the last time

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you were on the show,

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which was just like a week or two ago,

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I wound up diving into like

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three different books.

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It's Feast Your Famine with me.

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What do you want me to do?

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I only finished my romance novel.

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I'm not going to lie.

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That's all that I have.

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I'll get to the romance novels.

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I have not yet gotten to the

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romance novels.

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But do you want to talk about your,

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we're just going to talk

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about book and what we

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learned from it so far.

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Mine is a little mind

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blowing for me personally.

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Tell me.

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I want to let you go first though.

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Well, no,

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you got to go first because I

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thought we were talking

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about our StrengthsFinder.

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Oh, we can do that.

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This is related.

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Okay, I'm ready.

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Okay.

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So I am in the middle of listening to

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which is a little different

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for me as well.

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I'm usually a reader,

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but I'm listening to the

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six types of working genius.

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Are you familiar with this book?

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No, but apparently I need to be.

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It's wild.

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Now, of course,

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like all these books

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promise to be mind changing.

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It's going to change your mind.

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This one is, I think,

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great in its application and simplicity.

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So essentially what this guy

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figured out was he was

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working for an ad agency

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and he would do stuff that

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you did at an ad agency,

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like creative stuff.

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And he would thrive and he

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was doing great and

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everything was blowing up

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and he found purpose and he

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would go home and be happy.

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And then he got promoted, did so well,

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he got promoted.

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And that's what happens at work.

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You get promoted.

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Yeah.

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And your job changes because

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now your job is a boss.

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Now your job is other people

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not doing the thing.

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And he was miserable.

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And of course, why would you be miserable?

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You got promoted, you got more money,

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but that's not what he was good at.

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So he keeps going.

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He keeps seesawing these things because,

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of course,

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it wasn't that obvious when he did it.

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Now my light is out.

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It wasn't that obvious what

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was going wrong in the moment.

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So he winds up,

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his wife is having this

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very clear and candid

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conversation with him.

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And she says,

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you know what you're going to have to do,

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right?

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And he's like, what?

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And she's like,

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you're going to have to

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open on your own agency

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because you're going to

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need to be the boss of everything.

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So then you get to do whatever.

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And that worked.

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for a while until his staff

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was almost like, this guy is an a-hole.

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We don't like him.

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What's going on?

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They literally impromptu

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were in a meeting room in

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front of a whiteboard and

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they came up with the six

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types of working genius.

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So here's what they are.

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They're just, so now keep in mind,

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this isn't like StrengthsFinders.

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We'll get to StrengthsFinders.

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Yeah.

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StrengthsFinders was like, there's like,

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there's like, there's like, there's like,

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there's like, there's like, there's like,

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there's like,

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And then I paid for the one

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where it gave me my top five.

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And I'll bring mine up and

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you'll share yours.

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This says there are six

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types of working genius.

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We all can do all of the

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tasks except like a stoplight.

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Two are always green.

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They give us energy.

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Two are like yellow competencies.

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We can do them.

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They're neither here nor there.

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They don't light me up,

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but they don't drain me.

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And then there's two that drain us.

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So this guy realized when he

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was like a regular creative

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guy at an ad agency,

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he was doing greens all day.

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And he was bang, bang, bang.

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Everything's great.

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I'm good at it.

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This goes back to Ica guy.

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I'm good at it.

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The world needs it.

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I can get paid doing it.

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And I love it.

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Yeah.

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Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang.

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So greens are like Ica guys.

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Okay.

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Every once in a while, dude,

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like some jobs require like

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you to do some yellow stuff.

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Yeah.

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But the idea was he wasn't a

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bad person or worker.

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He was doing the wrong work for him.

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Right.

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So that made him kind of an a-hole.

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So they were like, well,

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then we need to take your red,

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your frustration.

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So they're called geniuses, competencies,

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and frustrations, like a stoplight.

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Greens are good, yellows,

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and then reds are soul-sucking.

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The funny part is...

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what I would consider soul-sucking,

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a friend might be like, I love that,

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right?

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Because if you're like Jimmy,

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organize a spreadsheet every day,

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I'd be like, nope,

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rather rub salt in my eyeballs.

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Like couldn't do it.

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But some people love that.

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So the task is neither good nor bad.

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It is either a fit or a not fit for you.

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So you read the book or

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listen to the book and then

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you take this test,

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which I haven't taken yet,

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but I used AI and I'm sort

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of taking the test anyway

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and found out that I've

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kind of got my order

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Locked in.

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So what I want to do for you,

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cause you know me well enough,

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I'm going to give you all

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six of these things and a

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little description.

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And then I want you to tell

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me which ones you think I am.

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My order is all right.

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But are you going to do that

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for me so that I know?

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Yes.

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Yes.

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Um, um,

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what do you think about the book so far?

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And this idea, like what, like, cause you,

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you were doing eyebrow

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raises and stuff like that.

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Well,

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so it's funny because I was thinking

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about a conversation that I

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had with my boss before I

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started my business.

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And it was like that guy, like, you know,

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where he was like,

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it's either time to like

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move on or do something

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else or like get promoted.

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And and then the promotion

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options for me didn't feel

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like it would be a good fit.

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And so I actually want to

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share that conversation

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that I had with him because

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it was really helpful.

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And he basically said, like I said,

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I've been waiting for the

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clinical ladder to change.

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I just feel like it's changed,

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but nothing's changed for me.

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Like there's nowhere else for me to go.

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For me, exactly.

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I'm still here on the clinical ladder.

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There's nothing else up here.

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And he kind of said, well,

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you've been pushing your

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face against the top of the

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clinical ladder for years.

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a real long time.

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So your choices are to like, he's like,

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every clinical ladder has a ceiling,

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like just the way that works.

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And there are leadership

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positions and there are, you know,

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other like research positions,

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like there are these options,

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or you can go out into the

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world and do what you're

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doing here on a bigger scale.

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And so that was really the

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impetus for me to go from

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can I make a PT in the

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emergency department here outstanding to,

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can I put a physical

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therapist in every

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emergency department in the

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United States?

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And so do I work clinically

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as much as I did before?

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No, I am now a per diem therapist.

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But that allows me to not

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lose those pieces that I

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loved about what I was doing,

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but not be constrained by

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the top of a ladder and not

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be pushed into the next step,

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which is maybe people management.

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And I don't know that that's my strength.

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Correct.

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It's a different job.

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So the best nurse in an

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emergency room doesn't mean

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she's going to be the next charge nurse,

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right?

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That's the person in charge of the nurse.

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It does not mean that.

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It doesn't.

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So just the best clinician

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or the one who's been there

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the longest doesn't mean

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they're going to be the

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greatest clinic director.

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No.

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Reverse.

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I see academies, associations,

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businesses...

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You know who they put in

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charge of communications

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and social media?

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The youngest person because

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they understand the TikToks.

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And I'm like, you're doing it wrong.

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You need someone who knows

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how to do it and likes

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doing it because the likes

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doing it part is going to

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make them persevere to learn it better.

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Yeah.

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right and I was having a

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conversation with an

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occupational therapist the

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other day she went to the

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big uh aota conference and

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she said she was really

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excited about the new

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president of aota and I'm

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really hopeful and we got

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into this conversation

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about whether the the

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president of your

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professional association

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should be a clinician and

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clinicians always feel like

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the person leading them

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should be a clinician

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because they want somebody

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to understand what clinicians go through

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But to me,

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the skill set for leading a

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massive organization and

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the skill set for being a

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clinician are completely different.

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Are they both outstanding skill sets?

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Yes.

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And there might be some crossover.

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For sure.

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Do you want some?

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I want the best match, right?

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I want somebody who understands what I do.

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But I need somebody who

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knows how to run a massive organization.

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And I see people complaining

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about how much...

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People get paid in different

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roles and different things.

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And why does this person get

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paid this much?

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And I'm the one seeing the patients.

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And I'm like, well,

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because the pricing for

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this skill set is different

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than the pricing for this skill set.

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I'm not saying one is better or not.

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All right,

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so since I got a little bit of a

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time crunch.

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Yeah, sorry.

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I'm going to give you the

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definition of each of the

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six types of working genius.

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And then, so if you want to take notes,

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because there's six,

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I sort of get lost when we start.

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All right, so they are called,

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I'll just give you the names first,

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then I'll give you the definition.

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They are called wonder, discernment,

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galvanizing, enablement,

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tenacity and invention so

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now I'll go through them in

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that order and I'll give

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you a little now now you

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can sit there and you can

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check off or be like do a

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yes no or maybe because

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you're not gonna have to do

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like which one are my bests

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you're doing green yellow

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red genius uh let's see

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wonder discernment

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galvanizing enablement

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tenacity and invention

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invention invention

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So now I'll give you the

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definition of the

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description and you can

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guess which are two Jimmy's two geniuses,

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competencies, frustrations, green,

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yellow.

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So wonder sensing this

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person senses potential or

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possibility asking big

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questions about what could be better.

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Discernment using intuition

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and instincts to evaluate

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ideas and solutions.

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Good judgment.

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Galvanizing, rallying, inspiring,

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and pushing people into

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action around a project or an idea.

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Enablement,

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providing support and help to

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others' ideas and efforts.

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This person is ready to assist.

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Tenacity,

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driving work across the finish line,

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committed to completing tasks and goals.

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and invention creating original ideas,

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solutions,

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or plans from scratch loves brainstorming,

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which are Jimmy's geniuses, competencies,

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frustrations.

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What are your guesses?

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Okay.

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I think your geniuses are

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invention and wonder.

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Okay.

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And I would say your yellows

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are discernment and enablement.

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Okay.

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And your red ones are

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tenacity and galvanizing.

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I have originally have

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galvanizing in yellow.

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Good.

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That's what I have.

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So you would change.

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So why did you switch that?

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Why did you put galvanizing

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in red in frustrations for me?

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I'm curious.

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Well, because I feel like wonder for sure.

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I feel like it's a green one for you.

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So here's what I had.

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I'll just do it.

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So yeah, I have invention and wonder.

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well see those two right so

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invention originally I was

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not going to have in your

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greens oh okay to me that

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was the definition I was

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like oh that's definitely

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jimmy so when I heard the

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words I was like that's not

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jimmy but then when you

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said the definition I was

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like definitely and then

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I originally thought

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discernment would be one of

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your top ones.

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So I guess maybe if I have

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to pick like my final

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answer is that tenacity and

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discernment are your reds

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and galvanizing and

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enablement for your yellows.

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So I had Will, do you know Will Humphries?

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Will's a PT at Arizona, similar to me.

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And he brought this concept

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to me or he's like a third

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person to bring this up.

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And he's like, Jimmy, you're just like me.

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You're an invention galvanizer.

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And then as I started taking the test,

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I'm like, I can do galvanizing.

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Yes.

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But I want,

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I want to be next to the galvanizer.

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like I'm the robin to the

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bat to the galvanizer's

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batman yeah I could do it

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in a pinch but it's not my

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it's not the thing I want

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to be doing the most amount

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of time no because it takes

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a lot of energy I'd rather

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just run into the burning

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building and be like I'm

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going instead of hey

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everybody let's run into

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the burning building I'm

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like an invention is your

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number one that's like your

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faith and then wonder for

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sure right so now I'm gonna

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guess for you okay I'm

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doing this live okay so let

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me look at these again so

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I'm gonna do that

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I know you had to do it live too,

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but I'm not good.

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I'm not good at discernment.

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So I think you,

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I think you are good at discernment.

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So I would put discernment at the top.

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I would put wonder also at the top.

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So do discernment and wonder

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for you in your greens.

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I would do galvanizing and

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tenacity in your reds

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frustrations leaving in wait,

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galvanizing and man,

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I think you're a yellow invention.

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I think your invention would

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be a competency.

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And now I've got galvanizing enablement.

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Tenacity is on your bottom.

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You're like me.

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I think.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And I think you would be a

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galvanizer in your yellow.

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You do it,

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but it wouldn't be your primary

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because that's a lot of energy,

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which means enablement

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would be on the bottom.

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Am I close?

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What is discernment again?

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Read that one again.

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Discernment is like,

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do you ever just someone

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who has like really good taste,

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you pitch them an idea.

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And even if they're not in

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your area of expertise, they're like,

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hang on, why would that work?

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And you're like, well, and they're like,

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I don't think it's there.

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They're not going to tell

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you how to fix it.

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That's different,

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but they're going to be

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able to assess like,

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these are the people who

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can walk into a room and they're like,

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needs a cat, needs a couch, needs a rug,

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needs a plant,

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but in like any setting in like,

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like they're good.

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Not you.

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No,

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I feel like if I had to pick my top two,

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it'd be wonder and galvanizing.

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Oh, okay.

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Cause I like to think I motivate people.

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Well,

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that's good at like seeing people's

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gifts and helping motivate

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them towards it.

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and um so I would pick

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galvanizer and wonder for

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my top two and then maybe

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discernment and invention

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second and then tenacity

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and enablement last yeah

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tenacity is tough but those

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are the people remember

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when I did party with a purpose yeah

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I, it wasn't on purpose, purpose,

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but Karen Hughes from the

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Academy of Leadership and Innovation,

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we sort of,

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I pitched the idea in a Zoom

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call and she and I sort of

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found each other and she was like,

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and in my guess, she's,

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I think her number one would be tenacity.

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And I feel like the two of

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us together have so many good ideas,

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but we can't get them over

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the finish line.

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Correct.

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So without Karen,

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that event wouldn't have happened,

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even though everybody saw

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me as the person who put it on,

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because I was the loud one.

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I was like the one asking the questions.

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But without a Karen, without a tenacity,

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and she's probably enablement,

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without a Karen, that doesn't happen.

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It's a really great idea

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that sits on the shelf.

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Ideas are a dime a dozen,

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but you have to be paired.

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And so what's the takeaway from all this?

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I need a higher tenacity.

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Well,

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Will has an organization called

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Virtual Rockstars where he

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is like a matchmaking

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service for virtual assistants.

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You need to talk to Will.

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Because Will is going to

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have you take six types of working genius,

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and he has everybody that

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works who wants to work for him take it,

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and he matches the right people.

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Because now you have a common language.

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You have a common nomenclature,

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as the academics would call it.

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And you're able to say,

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Jimmy doesn't need to hang

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out with Will on a regular

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basis in a good way.

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The problem would be so many

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ideas but no execution.

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But you get Jimmy and Will

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in a room once a month and

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we get fifty ideas and then

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we give it to a discernment

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person and we go,

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which are the two that are

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most likely to succeed?

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Good.

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You hand it to a tenacity

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enablement person and you're like,

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help them execute.

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This explains a lot of why

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the stuff that I do.

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People have been telling me

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to launch a course on how

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to teach podcasters how to

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podcast for years.

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I could do it.

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I don't have a tenacity or

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an enablement person.

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Yeah,

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I've got a whole book of things that

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I want to do.

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Right?

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But this explains,

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but here's the flip side.

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The tenacity and enablement

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people are sitting around going,

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wish I had someone to tee

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off on a good idea with.

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Now hiring tenacity.

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Neither of these,

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none of these six are better or worse.

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It's just understanding who you are,

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what gives you energy.

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I could go to a conference

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and talk to people all damn day.

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I know people who that drains them.

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Yeah.

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I get it.

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Doesn't mean what I do is better.

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It's just understanding you

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and like Lego bricks,

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which ones you should link

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up with in different situations.

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This is not universal

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because if it was a brainstorming sesh,

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a tenacity is annoying

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because they're like, are we done yet?

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And I'm like, dude, I don't, I don't know.

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We're going to go far wide and deep.

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The discernment people are

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really annoying during that too.

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But so they're better and

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worse in different,

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they're just better or

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worse in different.

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But like,

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I need you not in the room while

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I'm doing that because I

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want to have all the ideas.

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I don't want to judge the ideas right now.

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And I don't want to have to

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explain them yet.

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Right.

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And then if it's a bad idea,

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tell me later.

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But right now I need to just

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get the idea out there

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because maybe the piece of

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that idea is going to end

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up being the idea.

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I call them idea parts.

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I'll be like, I have an idea part.

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I don't have a fully formed idea.

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You bring that in my mind to

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a discernment person.

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They'll be able to be like, huh?

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Yeah,

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you're eighty five percent of the way

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there.

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And then if they have a

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little maybe more enablement in them,

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they'll be able to go,

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what if you did that?

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And you're like, damn,

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I never would have saw that.

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Yes.

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We're better when we

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understand ourselves and

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the people on our team.

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This book is wild.

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It was eleven dollars on Audible.

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I don't get a nickel.

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I was going to do the one

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you said last week, the Mel Robbins one.

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But now I'm going to bump

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this one up the list

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because this one Mel Robbins is great.

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She's great.

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I'm still reading it.

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And I bought the book.

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that is sort of how you

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interact with the world.

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Mel Robbins' Let Them Theory.

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Yeah.

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I mean,

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I read the first two chapters and

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I'm like, get it.

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Like,

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I'm not saying I can't learn more

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from the book,

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but I'm pretty sure she's

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good at explaining and

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she's going to re-explain

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the same concept two more times.

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I'm listening to Six Types

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of Working Genius and I'm like, hot damn.

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They've also,

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now they've switched their business.

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They are,

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the guy who invented this is still,

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I think, an ad agency,

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but half of their business

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is going into giant corporations,

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teaching this and doing workshops.

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He made his own job.

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Yeah,

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I'm even just thinking about like

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medical teams and how this

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would be really helpful too.

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Because how are medical teams usually,

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what's the hierarchy?

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Gosh.

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Degrees, number of years in service,

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right?

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Whatever,

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like none of those are working genius.

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How long you're there?

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I mean, get it, like seniority.

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What certification you have.

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What certifications, what degrees,

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what your specialty is.

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But what if the invention

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guy is the janitor?

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And I'm not knocking janitors,

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but I'm just saying we

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would discount that

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person's idea based on their status,

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their perceived status using air quotes.

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Okay.

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Wild, right?

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Yeah.

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So I have to go to a meeting

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in three minutes.

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Yeah.

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but I wanted to share this with you.

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I was listening to this book going,

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Rebecca needs this.

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Cause you and I are wonder

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invention sort of people-y

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and you've come to me.

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I think I can help other

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people with their ideas and

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executions a lot easier than myself,

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but that's sort of a

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universal truth anyway.

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But I can see you, you're like,

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I want to write a book.

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I'm like, hell yeah.

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My first instinct is you

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need someone else to write

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the book with you.

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You're the,

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here's someone put it in this context.

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Wonder invention people, galvanizers,

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we're the wow people.

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But we need to help people.

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Yes.

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So I've been called a

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visionary without a plan.

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And I will own that.

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Own it.

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I will own that.

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But it's a great vision.

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So if you're the person who

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can make the plan, like, you know,

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I'm open to that.

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Please.

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This is if you want to go fast, go alone.

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If you want to go far, go together.

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Is that right?

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Yeah.

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Fast, alone, far together.

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Parting shots for today.

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This is a truncated episode

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live stream because I have

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a meeting to go to.

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It should be my lunch,

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but I'm doing a meeting.

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But what would you leave with everybody?

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Parting shot today.

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I think my parting shot is

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just accept who you are and

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go forward into where your

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strengths are instead of

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trying to force yourself to

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be good at something that

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you're not and something

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that doesn't serve you or

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others and something that

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you don't enjoy and partner

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with the right people.

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I love hanging out with you

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because we are fun and we

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do fun things together.

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We're not going to write a book together.

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We're not going to run a company together.

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We shouldn't.

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No.

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We shouldn't.

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I would say the...

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Success you're seeking is

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hiding in the work you're not doing.

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And sometimes, a lot of times,

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and I'm speaking from myself, it's me.

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Hi, I'm the problem.

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It's me.

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Sometimes you are the

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limiting factor in that.

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So get out of your own way.

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And sometimes it's

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understanding what you're great at,

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what you're not so great at,

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and then hiring or

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partnering for the things

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you're not great at.

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Or in this case of Working Genius,

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the things that you might, you can do,

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I can do a tenacity task.

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I've run the Ironman.

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Same.

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I can do it,

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but some tenacity tasks suck

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the life out of me.

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I'm just not going to finish them.

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Yeah.

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So, all right.

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That's my parting shot for today.

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We'll be back next week with

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longer to dive in with Rebecca Griffith,

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the EDDPT.

