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We'll do the big fancy logo thing.

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And they're back.

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The note ninjas are here.

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I figured more masks, not enough weapons.

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Like where are the, no, no weapons.

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All right.

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Well, if you had, oh, first question.

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If you had weapons as note ninjas,

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as healthcare providers,

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what would they be?

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Oh man.

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I would say like a,

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like a recording pen type

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of thing that I could just like,

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and then it like goes to my

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computer and it's done.

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I have that.

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Well, I want that.

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Like a goniometer.

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Like a goniometer would be

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like what a note ninja might carry.

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You know what I mean?

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Threaten people with ranging

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their shoulder or something.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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All right.

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Introduce yourselves to the

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people who don't know who you are.

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All right.

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Hi, everyone.

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I'm Nicole.

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And I'm Stephanie.

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We're the Note Ninjas,

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an OT and PT duo teaching

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other therapists treatment

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ideas and documentation.

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That is not the first time

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you guys have done that.

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You guys are pros.

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We've been practicing, yeah.

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All right,

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so let's go backwards before we

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go forwards,

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because we're talking about

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an event that you've put together.

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You want people to come.

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They should,

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because you solved the problem

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you wish was solved for you.

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You did that.

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Let's go back.

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What was your personal, each of you,

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your breaking point with documentation?

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Was there a specific, like,

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I'm going to pull my hair out,

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I can't do this anymore

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moment that led to the

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creation of you putting on

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the, the ninja, you know,

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garb and becoming the note ninjas.

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What was it?

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I used to always say,

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I used to bring my computer

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home at night and I would

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just be sitting on my couch

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and usually go to bed early.

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I'd be up to like,

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I remember being up to

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eleven thirty at night and it's like,

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all right, we need to go to bed.

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Like this needs to be over.

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And it was just so stressful.

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And I just dreaded and I

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wanted to see almost less

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patients sometimes to do

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like less paperwork at the

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end of the day.

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And I just really couldn't

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take it anymore.

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It was burning me out.

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Yeah, and I would say, I mean,

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my very first evaluation,

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it took me four hours.

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And then I had very poor

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internet connection at home.

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And I like brought all my notes home.

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And like,

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I would literally spend like six

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hours doing documentation

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at night because I had no

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idea what I was doing

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because nobody taught me.

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Yeah.

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It's like, well,

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your CI will teach you and

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then figure it out.

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And meanwhile, the CI was taught by a CI.

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So it's a photocopy of a

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photocopy of a photocopy.

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And then we wind up just

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doing what we think we should be doing,

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but not what we should be doing.

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Right.

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We're told all the time.

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I remember I was told in PT school anyway,

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which was document every

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single thing this way, you know,

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you're safe.

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And I'm like,

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am I though like am I really

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safe just because I did a

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lot so you you you two

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teach therapists how to

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document more defensively

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and creatively what does

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that actually look like in

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practice walk us through a

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common example of how a

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boring note becomes more of

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a badass note so we just like to

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say that you don't have to write a lot.

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You just have to write

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exactly what you did.

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We just have to focus on the

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skill of the clinician,

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not necessarily the steps

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of any activity.

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So that's what we focus a

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lot in our trainings,

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showing an activity and

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then exactly how to

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document and living out the

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stuff that's really not important.

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It might be important why

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the patient was doing it to reach a goal,

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but not necessarily the

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steps of all the activities

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that you're doing.

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Yeah, it's like,

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Yeah.

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And to incorporate like the

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skilled phrases,

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I think is like the big thing.

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So, you know,

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we keep the list of skilled

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phrases like facilitated,

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engaged instead of

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tolerated and like things like that.

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Can we retire tolerated?

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It's about time.

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Have you ever like imagine

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someone was like, oh,

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I went to have drinks with

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my friend Jimmy.

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Oh, yeah.

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What's he like?

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Well, I tolerated it.

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Well, that sound positive at all.

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No, it sounds awful.

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You should not be reimbursed for that.

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Yeah.

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So you've mentioned cutting the fluff.

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What are the top two or

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three things besides

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tolerated that therapists

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should stop doing in their

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notes outside of what you just mentioned,

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which is like writing down

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just a list of steps?

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Good question.

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Let's see.

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Stop being vague with your notes.

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So we always say cut the fluff,

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but that doesn't mean being vague.

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You need to be specific.

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So we need to be incorporating,

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incorporating the right

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things into your notes.

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So the skill that you use,

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the strategy that you use,

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what cues you're providing, you know,

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you don't want to be vague in that, like,

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oh, just facilitated a balance activity.

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You know, why did you do that?

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And what did you bring to

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that treatment that a lay

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person could not have done?

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And even just how they're progressing or,

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you have to modify so they

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can do that that day if

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they could do something the

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other day and today they

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can't that's fine people

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are going to go up and down

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but they present what did

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you do and then how did the

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patient present it's all

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much more important than

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those little steps in

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between all right so

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typically things like

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compliance and

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defensibility and

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documentation and

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creativity are like two

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ends of the spectrum right

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we're taught in school pt

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school ot school slp school

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the creativity is not on the syllabus,

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right?

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But we work with humans,

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so we want to be creative.

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So how do you guys teach

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people to balance creative

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patient-specific treatment

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planning with the need for

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those things that have to be there,

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like compliance and

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defensibility and documentation?

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Well,

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I think it's just like important that

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like a lot of people think that we need,

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like you, especially with social media,

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you see all these crazy

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equipment that you use.

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And like, it's so like, oh wow,

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I want that, you know?

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But when it comes down to it, like,

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you have to like think about

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you and your patients.

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Like, what do you have the means to,

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you know,

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you have to work within your

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means of the equipment.

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So we like to bring like these simple,

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basic treatments and then

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just kind of elevate them.

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And that's going to show progress.

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It's going to challenge them.

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Plus it's going to be more fun.

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And then we want to keep it

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patient centered for the patient.

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So instead of, you know,

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just doing a ball toss,

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maybe you're doing a ball

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toss with a cognitive task

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and having them, you know, name a certain,

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some categories or walk and

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do the ball toss.

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Like it's just like that

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little thing that sets us

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apart because we're giving

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like that little creativity

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aspect with that simple

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activity that anyone can

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use in any setting.

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Plus a lot of our job too is

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to get them to want to come back.

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A lot of times, you know,

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people stop coming to

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therapy and the buy-in and engagement and

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So a lot of times they don't

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want to just do like two

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sets of fifteen like leg raises,

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you know.

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But if you add in some kind

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of activity that they enjoy.

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Like I was even thinking

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that this morning.

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I was at the gym and I go to

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a lady that's very creative.

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And I'm like, I know I don't need this,

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but this keeps me coming back.

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And this is what keeps our

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patients coming back too.

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Maybe they are.

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A patient might like that, but.

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a lot of them like to change

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it up a little bit and have

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a little bit of fun while

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still getting all the benefits out.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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This Justin,

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no one wants to do two sets of

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fifteen leg raises that we

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can retire that along with tolerated.

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Yeah.

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But I feel like you guys

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from the first time I sort

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of came across your content,

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was you weren't doing

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anything necessarily revolutionary,

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and that's not a knock,

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it's a compliment.

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What you were doing was

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showing people like, hey,

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what if we twist this?

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What if we made this a little bit harder?

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So I think people could copy

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exactly what you're doing,

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but really it felt like you

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guys were putting things

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out there to just spark...

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Whoever the viewer or the watcher was...

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take this and run with it.

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Like we are not the end all be all.

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We are the catalyst to let

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you know you are allowed to be creative.

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In fact,

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you're supposed to be creative here.

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Exactly.

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Yeah.

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We kind of like to set the

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foundation and then, yeah.

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And we get a lot of people that ask like,

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oh, I have a lower level patient.

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Like, how can I use this?

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I'm like,

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you just have to use your

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clinical reasoning skills.

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You know,

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you need to use your own personal

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judgment and trust yourself

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as a clinician and to

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modify the activity.

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You know,

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we're showing this activity

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that's balanced and

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sit down or have some support, you know,

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add some,

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add a gate bell and support them.

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So it's really, yeah, like you said,

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it's not revolutionary.

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It's just, you have to kind of, you know,

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use your own creativity.

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It's the basics done repetitively, right?

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Isn't that what we're taught?

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Like understand the basics.

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Sometimes people are on islands, right?

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You have solopreneurs who

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are out there sort of on their own.

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And next thing you know, I've,

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I've been there.

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You're repeating the same

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thing because you're like, man, I'm,

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I'm not looking at anybody

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else in clinic.

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I'm not talking to people

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enough because I'm busy.

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Right.

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I feel like how we consume

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content on devices,

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let's use that device for good,

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which is expose people to

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things and ideas that they

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might not have been exposed

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to in a different way.

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And then they can bring that with them.

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It's just, everything feels like yes and,

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like the rules of improv.

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Yes.

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Yeah, no, totally.

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I mean,

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I wasn't even getting burnt out

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because I was getting bored too.

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I stole exercises from Nicole,

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probably like one way it started.

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She was always the creative one.

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And I was always like, hmm.

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She doesn't have this patient with me.

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I'm totally taking that activity.

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Yeah.

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It made it more fun for me too.

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And for our patients.

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Yeah.

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And she put her PT spin on it.

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I guess I didn't really find

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the beginning either,

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especially being a PT.

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I didn't think about the

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creativity as much,

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but it definitely did help

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with me and with my

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patients when I started.

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Now,

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you did mention people seeing devices

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and saying, I want that.

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And sometimes, I mean,

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a lot of times we wind up

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buying something, myself included,

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off of Amazon.

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And then I get it.

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And three months later, I'm not using it.

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Is there something that you

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guys would recommend that

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doesn't have to be expensive,

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but that actually was helpful?

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A lot of times it's usually cheap,

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simple things that cover the basic.

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Anything that comes to mind?

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Oh yeah.

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I would say there's,

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there's three things that come to mind.

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One is a resistance,

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some type of resistance band.

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You can use it as a visual cue.

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Not even,

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I know a lot of people like hate

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on resistance bands for strengthening,

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but once again,

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as long as you're

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facilitating it the right way,

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we can get into that another time.

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But yeah, they're,

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they're great to use that.

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We love them for visual cues

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for just props.

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And then a deck of playing cards,

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simple as that.

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There's tons of activities you could do.

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And then a ball,

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a simple handheld ball that you could,

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work, you could do grip strength,

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you can do balance, um,

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working on ankle stability.

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There's like tons of ideas.

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Yeah.

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It's being creative.

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I was at a conference just

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last week and I'm, this is not a paid ad.

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I'm not trying to slide in an ad,

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but I was,

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I wound up playing with it

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during the conference.

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Cause their booth was next to ours.

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Have you guys toyed around

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with blaze pods at all?

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That feels like a deck of cards.

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Yes.

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sort of a visual light sensor.

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One of you guys, I mean,

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you're both nodding on a podcast,

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so I'm going to say that you want to.

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Yeah.

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We,

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we always say we want to work with them.

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Cause like they're so, they're so cool.

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So yeah.

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But like, that's the cool part.

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Once you see videos like yours,

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content like yours,

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the idea was there like

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that's those are those the

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aha moments was like well

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yeah of course of course

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it's so simple it's like

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well why don't you think of

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it it's because sometimes

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being creative is hard like

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that's why it's a whole you

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know that's why it's a

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whole you can learn how to

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be creative it's hard but

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it's valuable the juice is

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worth a squeeze on

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creativity yeah and I think

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the treatment was just like

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the one side of it um and

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like because we wanted to

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do the we started with the

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documentation idea but

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we're like teaching

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documentation is so boring

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so boring so like why don't

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we tie the documentation

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with the treatment because

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what's treatment without

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documentation what's

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documentation about

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treatment like so we had to

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put that together and I

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mean I don't know anyone

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who did that prior to us I

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think there's some people

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that do it now but um I

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would say that we are

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probably one of the first

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people like groups of people that

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really apply the

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documentation to the treatment idea.

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And I just like, it's so easy to do that,

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but you know,

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that's what people struggle with.

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I'm going to push back.

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It wasn't easy.

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It was simple, right?

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It was clear.

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It was linear,

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but it wasn't easy because if it was,

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somebody else would have done it.

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But of course now, you know,

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imitation is the sincerest

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form of flattery.

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You know, people are on the bandwagon.

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Like I'm sure you're

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probably flattered and also like, great.

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Like there's a lot of people

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that need help, but

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more graduating every single

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year that are going to need this.

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So you're not going to run

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out of people that can

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value this information.

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Yeah.

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We just need the people need it.

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So more people that can get it out there.

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Why not?

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All right.

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So you've got the note

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ninjas summit coming up.

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What's this look like?

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What do attendees expect to

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walk away with?

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Why should a busy clinician

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make time for this in person virtual?

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Like this is your chance to

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have at it and tee off.

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All right.

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Well,

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it's definitely turning out way

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better than we even imagined it could be.

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So I learned about summits last year.

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I came back to Nicole and said,

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we absolutely have to do

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this because we have, you know,

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we have our treatments.

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We worked with the older adult,

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but there's definitely

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other therapists too that

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are more specialized in different areas.

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We could ask all the time

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for neuro or for this or whatever it is.

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And that's, we're not specialized in that.

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So we thought there was a

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way to bring all those people together,

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but we also told them they

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had to tie in our documentation.

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So we said they have to come

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up with a presentation for PTs and OTs,

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really leaving out the fluff,

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giving them activity ideas

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and ways to document it,

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not why they have to, all that stuff,

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like just straight down to

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the facts that the

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therapist can use the next day.

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And we tried to find a good

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variety of people so we

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could cover a lot of

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different topics for the

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older adult as well.

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Yeah, we have an insane lineup.

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We got, I mean, we were really nervous,

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like reaching out to people,

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but we've built like this network.

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I would say past year, year, well,

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we've been doing this for six years,

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but we really came out of

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our shells like the past two years.

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So we really have been like

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building this network and

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relationships with other

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people that are online.

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So we have an awesome lineup

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of twenty plus PTs and OTs.

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We have neuro home health professionals.

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I can't even think of all

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the new hand therapy, um, acute stroke,

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cardiopulm.

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It's like, it's insane.

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It's a good variety.

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Yeah.

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And we decided to also,

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we kind of been avoiding

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like the CU things because

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whoever does CUs knows it's

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not easy to get them and

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they like torture you.

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So this is going to be our

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first real like event that

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we're pre-approved for PT and OT.

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We got approved for IOTI and

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I went through the torture

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of getting it for most states for PT.

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It was torture,

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but so we have twenty CUs or

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Contact hours.

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Contact hours for OT.

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And yeah,

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so this time we really went all

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in with that.

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So they also get that.

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And by the way,

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it's called Innovative

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Treatments Effortless

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Documentation for PTs and

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OTs working with older adults.

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Make sure you,

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that sounds like someone

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who's an expert in

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documenting something who

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would rename that that way.

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I would say.

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All right.

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Advice.

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If you had one sticky notes

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worth of advice,

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because that's how we used

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to keep track of things before apps,

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one sticky notes worth of

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advice to slap on every

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therapist's laptop or clipboard,

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whatever they're carrying around,

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what would it say about

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documentation or treatment planning?

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What's the, like,

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what's sort of the one

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thing you'd want to hit people with?

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Mine would say like, what did you do?

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So like as you're the OT or

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PT reading that, like what would you do?

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Don't worry about, you know,

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of course patient

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presentation is important,

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but you don't have to list

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all the steps of the activity.

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Just focus on the strategies

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and that's going to be,

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that's your skill right there.

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That's what's going to be

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reimbursed because that's

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what insurance cares about

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is what you did with the

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patient and why your brain was used.

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And then that's a good one.

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And then the next one would be

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is everything focusing on

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one of the patient's goals?

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Because I think another

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thing we do too is what's

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within normal limits.

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What do we think it should be?

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Adults do this.

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Like, does the patient need this?

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Is all the activities you're doing,

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no matter how creative or how boring,

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whatever it is,

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are they all related to the

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goals that the patient

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wants to get back to?

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And does it show it in your note?

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All right.

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You ready to play a quick game?

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Oh, sure, I guess.

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We're going to call it,

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because you guys are famous

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for wanting to cut out the fluff, right?

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We're going to call it fluff or fire.

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Okay.

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I'm going to give you a statement,

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and then you two have to

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each shout it out.

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You can't team up.

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You have to do it individually.

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Is it fluff, like cut it, or fire,

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you keep it?

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Are you ready?

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Okay.

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Here's the phrase.

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Skilled services provided to

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address patient deficits.

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What?

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What was it?

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Patient participated in

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obstacle course for dynamic

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balance retraining.

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Fire.

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Patient tolerated treatment well.

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Oh, fluff.

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There's that word.

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Terrible.

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Used bubbles to encourage

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midline crossing.

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Fire.

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Fire.

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Warm.

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All right, good.

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Continue plan of care as established.

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Fluff.

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All right, perfect.

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So when we put it out there in that way,

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it's funny and we're being

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goofy with a game like this,

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but you start to see those

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things that were repeated

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and copy pasted all the time,

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maybe when you were

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students or maybe when you

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were out in practice for a while,

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you can cut that fluff.

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Where should someone go to

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find out more about getting

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together and learning with

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the event you put together?

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So you can go to www.thenoteninjas.com.

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We will be having a pop-up for our summit.

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And then make sure you get

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on our email list.

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That's the most important

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thing because that's when

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you'll get all the

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announcements about the summit.

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And of course,

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our Instagram at The Note Ninjas.

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We will be promoting our

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summit all month long.

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It is OT month.

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So we make sure that you follow us.

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And what can people get

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outside of information

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about the summit from your email list?

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You guys are constantly

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putting out good information.

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Just give us the high level.

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What can people expect in their inbox?

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We always like to send,

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we usually send two emails a week.

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One is always like a

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treatment ID or documentation.

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It's very simple to the point.

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And then we always like to

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give a wrap up of our blogs and YouTubes.

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We put a lot of information

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on all of that every week.

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Yeah, fantastic.

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Well, thanks again for doing what you do.

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It's needed.

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If it wasn't,

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people wouldn't be following along.

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That's just how this works.

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We're an attention economy.

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And the fact that there are

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enough people clamoring and

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asking for it is saying it's needed.

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So you've met that

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intersection of fluff and fire.

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Yeah, thank you.

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All right, ladies, as always,

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thanks so much.

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We appreciate your time.

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All right, thank you.

